So today I'm going on a sartorial Journey with beauty
journalist broadcaster, entrepreneur and diversity,
Advocate doctor at a jewel at a is also a regular contributor on
itv's this morning and her incredible energy and positivity
is simply magnetic. I was introduced to at a by
Trinny Woodall who believed that we would have a lot to discuss
on all things fashion and Beauty.
I'm I'm certain she was right so at a welcome.
I want to start with what was your earlier, sartorial memory.
When did you first realize the impact of clothes?
Oh my goodness. I first of all, I'm so happy to
be here. I'm excited me too, so we'll get
that. I grew up so MGM musicals, from
the 1950s Gone With the Wind was just, you know, I'd go.
I'm sick mama and I stay home. It's gonna be so good for you
can do it on Catch-Up TV or factories.
Like I dunno, I take sticky so I can watch movies and all these
beautiful clothes, and the energy, and the makeup, and the
color. And I grew up loving for the
right Nike 20 films. I was a child.
You love Marlena Dietrich stat like six.
I just it was just magical and I just always found it.
Transformative powerful playful. It's all about characters and
making, you know, being an expression of our own
imagination. I always got that and I was
obsessed with it. But do you remember the moment
that you first put on an item of clothing or an outfit?
That was just like, I am transformed.
This is I am. I'm at it.
Well, I remember well, my mum in the was a, was an 80s rich
bitch. Okay.
She was like she was a diplomat. She agree with that.
Yes, definitely people used to mistake her for die.
Carol from Timothy 5 minute. She's like, no, I'm Daphne about
Diane, so I grew up with very powerful.
You know, she's always shopping in Harrods.
It was, you know, her fashion sense is amazing.
She should have been a stylist for Italian Vogue if she knew
that was a job. So that was always in my Orbit.
But the first time I felt like, wow, I remember ripping up some
sheets and making a dress and I put Hoops around it, I just felt
I wanted to be like if you didn't lie and Gone With the
Wind, I wanted something big and poufy and I just made something
for Or myself, and I put hangers all around the bottom and I just
was like, yes I think it was a hot mess Amanda.
But like me to shame because my very first item that I made was
out of a sheet and my mother started to get sick of me.
Dripping up sheets, I must admit but and then tie dyeing it.
Wow. So yeah but yes, exactly the
sheet, Queens sheet queen bed, sheets and having our mother few
bit cross. Yeah absolutely.
And I think as human beings with particularly in the world of
fashion and beauty. We're a little guilty of sizing
people up when we first meet them, especially by what they're
wearing, is this something you're conscious of.
It's hot. You know?
I'm trying to be less judgy. But I did meet someone who had
amazing curls, I thought I have respect for you.
You know, she's like yeah, they were just beautiful.
I just made you think God, you're in control of yourself,
you love yourself. You have a program.
You know what you're doing? There's so much self love.
So I did think all these positive things towards her, but
in terms of how people present Isn't themselves.
I just think God there's so much going on behind the scenes so
I'm like I'm always attracted to beautiful.
You know, we work. Are you back on duty?
I love beautiful. Is it the skin?
Then the, the skin and the hair I think.
If you look at Ya makeup skin hair clothes, everything the
whole presentation. I met someone on the tube
yesterday who was dressed and sort of 1930s.
Peaky, blinders and he said, oh, I love you.
Like I love you more like. So I do, I like beautiful things
and beautiful people and beautiful clothes I It was not
enough of people saying God, you look great.
Yeah, it's additive and to see someone so that their face
transforms, when you say, I don't care where they are, who
they are, when you flatter someone about how they're
looking, it's a sort of magical moment.
I completely agree, cuz you know, it's about kindness, you
know, I grew up in the devil's web product are aware.
It's sort of to cut you down and put you into a camp and I think
now it's about lifting people up.
I totally agree. So So when it comes to you
dressing, do you dress for yourself your husband other
women or other men even or your audience?
I tell you it's I've had a real transformation up until two
years ago. It will shock you that I never
will color. I cannot believe it.
It's so interesting. My daughter I've got 12 I tell
you because I really wanted to fit in.
I knew, you know, I started in this industry in 2001.
It was a very different landscape.
Very I remember, being told in an HR meeting, you know, you're
very well educated, does that make you feel more white?
And that was someone trying to pay me a compliment.
So it was a very different landscape.
So I was always in black, or white, or gray.
I wanted to be Chic. I straightened my hair.
I wore, you know, as shit. Chanel bags up to the eyeballs.
It was like a uniform. It was protection and my
daughter, you one of my daughter said, Mommy, you're just an old
grey lady and I've liked Oh, and I really thought if this is
the end of days, I don't need to dress for other people's
perception of me. Like, this is what power looks
like. In my opinion, my perception and
I'm going to dress for myself. What pleases me what's joyful,
what to express myself? And so during the pandemic I
really It with color exploded, being myself, and I turned the
volume up. And then my daughter said to me
the same daughter, like, 45 years later.
She said, mommy, you see, you don't have to hide anymore.
Oh my God. She's so white out of the mouths
of bouts of the mouths of babes. So I would say, I 1000% dress
for myself, but before I was dressed to fit in to what people
thought was Chic or powerful or what was acceptable for our
industry. So a big shift and does your
husband have an opinion, you know?
What? My husband is, lovely.
You've just like, do you your fabulous?
You know, we've been together since we're 90 units.
We literally children. So, we've seen every dodgy
haircut. Everything, every reincarnation
we've seen it all through each other.
So he loves me for me. He just wants me to go hard and
go big, so he's like Pump It Up bigger.
Bigger Tiaras bigger, go for it. Love that because you're of
Nigerian and West Indian. Yes, descent.
Yeah. And and so that's a culture that
in my opinion is known Choose. I should say known for his love
of color. Yeah, fabulous ability to wear
color so well because your skin tones is amazing with color.
Do you refer to your cultural heritage at all with your
clothing decisions? Or I mean, clearly not today.
But but do you ever dress in a traditional you know what, it's
really interesting because growing up, anyone who you know,
feels other words in this office Society will have that moment of
like, oh my God, it's Sunday. My mom is trying to make me be
in the traditional out there and it was like, you know, I rolling
in like oh for God's sake and kind of embarrassed.
I know a lot of my stuff at Asian friends who felt the same
and only now I'm like, God leading into those shapes,
aren't cutting my bonds, you're cold.
Exactly and some of those those headdress just love, it's
beautiful. So only now I think post
pandemic purse with black lives matters.
I'm really seeing the Art and beauty.
And you know, these are clothes, cut, 14.
I've got a juicy big West African volunteer at.
These shapes are cut for me. And so I'm just leaning into,
you know, and fabrics and textures and colors.
So that's definitely something. I'm reconnecting to and feeling
pride in my 40s versus that little girl who was like, oh,
that's so embarrassing. Yeah, know how wonderful and the
prince. Oh, my God, such beautiful
prints. Yeah, of color than designers.
And I mean, it's just the Nigerian fashion.
Things exploding as well. I was just my next question was
going to be do wear any Nigerian designers because there are some
brilliant ones. Yeah, well I would like to start
doing more but I mean I just think is that access to that
quite difficult in the UK. There's some amazing British 98
British Nigerian designers but I would really love to go to
Nigeria when I'm watching my beauty range, a just like
immerse myself in explode. Plus surely it would be
fantastically inspirational with ended four colors.
Shades. Oh definitely.
You know what? One of my first headdresses was
from a Nigerian designer and during the pandemic and it was
just so the color, the shape, it was just I just felt like I was
anointing crowning myself and reclaiming who I what I read
that I am, the love that. I also read that during the
pandemic that you're Charlotte. Tilbury red lipstick.
Yes, worn with your PJs you helped you get through.
I just I can see it. I love that.
It's almost like a bad dream or like a terrible Netflix movie
when we had that one hour of yard time, where we would love
to leave the house and go for a walk and it was like some days
you just didn't want to get out of bed.
It was so depressing. It was scary.
And that lipstick was such a chance of.
It's such a like let's go, let's do this and I put on that red
lipstick. I get up.
I do an Instagram live because before the pandemic I never
really did lives. I was but you just And to
connect it was can I was seeking desperately for connection and
you know, cuz I'm a child, I, you know, I was born in the 70s
and I have one foot in that area, one foot in the modern
world. And so, I we've had that voice
of like, don't make a show of yourself.
It's like, you know, yeah have a teenager.
I had about ten photos of myself because you have to develop them
and boots. Oh yeah.
So that's is us a million selfies a day.
So I always had that voice in my head and then the pandemic,
everything, just let everything go and was myself.
How Wonderful. That that actually you've got
the positives out of it. So you move to the country.
Yes, do you dress differently in the Cotswolds to what you do in
London? Or are you just a fabulous
attic? Your wonderful headpieces?
Well, I mean, I am mommy on the school run and sometimes, you
know, I want two spools, pink smokey eyes and I'll do that my
children. My children are like, Mom,
please. But I just, yeah, I'm
comfortable. I myself I do color and I think
being yourself is the most Revolutionary thing you can do
because you show other people and it inspires them to be
themselves. It's the most liberating thing.
Yes. Isn't it big time?
I know you're a very mindful person where I believe you are.
Do you consider fashion to be a type of self-care?
Oh, definitely. I just I have never understood
people who look down or are really think that fashion and
beauty is superficial. It is all about luxury and
character. And you know, the ritual of
putting clothes on how you put clothes on.
It is so might like there is no culture in any period of History
who have not put significance on how you dress and how you Adorn
yourself with makeup. It is so part of your culture.
And so part of who you are, I don't understand people who
don't get that because it is what's between your naked self
and the rest of the world, isn't it?
Is it truly, and you expressing ourselves and Thurman in your
choices and your lack of what you are?
You're making Months. It's very interesting and lack
of make up for that matter. Yeah, there's your perception of
your body, effective choice of what you wear.
It probably used to when I cared more but I don't anymore for me,
it's about celebration being comfortable.
Just you know, I'm so grateful. I have a cousin of mine died a
couple of years ago from breast cancer and she was a model and
she know she was a person. I just looked up to you the most
and And she was just so fabulous and so wonderful.
And it's such a privilege to get older.
This is what I'm realizing it's a privilege.
He isn't it? It's, you know, it's not
everyone gets their. And so just To Love Yourself,
except yourself celebrate your body.
So dressing is now a celebration not rather than a hiding so that
the offense, oh, I love that. So but on those days when you,
we will have them, we're not feeling are sparkling best for
whatever reason, what piece will always lift you up or I Is that
makeup for me? It's probably make up my also
color something colorful for like, you know, throw on a hot
pink dress or on, you know, a coral outfit.
And then put on some makeup that will always make me feel better.
And when you need to feel empowered, what do you reach
for, probably, I'm loving my crowns now.
So like, if you're actually, I've got, I've got a little bit,
the first Vibes going on God. And that just gives you your.
Yeah. And you know what?
And if you don't have any of that, you're also enough.
That's the trick. Yes.
Yes, and knowing that. Yeah.
Who would you consider to be your style icon?
Oh my God, so many people, I love Georgian fashion.
Like I love history, I studied history at University and I
loved Georgian culture and fashion.
I loved that job. The position between luxury and
also quite dark. It was like, it was built on
like, you know, sugar and slavery versus.
It's just so and that I think that's human nature.
Yeah. It's and I think it's really
interesting, like, you know, but I do love that the textiles and
tea and but style icon. I love it.
I love Elizabeth the first, you know, I'm really interested in
power. That's what people don't get
about me. I love you really are, aren't
you for me? It's all about power and I find
that really interesting, but it's soft power.
Yeah. If you're unsure of the, the
dress code, would you have a go-to look?
Do you have something that sort of tucked away that will always
make you feel strong? You know, my mom is probably,
you know what? I think my mom is one of my
style icons and she taught me so many lessons about power and
dressing and she went to event. Exactly, didn't know what the
dress code was. So she put on some jeans and,
like, 31 of fur coat, it was the 80s, don't judge her.
And I never judge a, then put some polls on.
I was going. ASA jewelry.
Has you put some pants on? Sit at a, whatever the dress
code, you are the center. And I was like, and that is kind
of my go-to. If like, you know what, people
got a couple people be feeling bad that they didn't have jeans
and some pearls, you know, that that so she, that was my
mindset. That's inspirational, your that
you're the center and that was a lesson.
She taught me so whatever's happening.
It's all about you is it a jerk consideration of how you dress?
I don't think so. You know, my mom's in her 70's
and she's fabulous and she wears anything she wants and oh
amazing pulls it off and it's just it's confidence.
You know what's sexy? Confidence is sexy and Powerful.
If you just feel good in yourself that your radiates out
and so you can wear anything be anything, the any age, and
that's what's important. You know, you could have, I
wasted my teens and twenties when I was just, you know, one
of the hottest I've ever been in my life.
Oh, use it is just wasted on the young.
Yes, indeed. And I was like, oh my What, you
know, I'd be dots from the podium.
Thank you. Oh my God.
You know I wish I was like this size or whatever and I was just
looked amazing. I'm sure did love, you know just
loved ones. I know I know.
Do you have one item of clothing?
That means the most to you. That's it.
Just might be a Sentimental. I do love shoes.
Okay. How many pairs do you own?
I don't think it's a lot more, like, 20.
Well, that's Not a lot. I don't think I've heard some of
my guests. Yeah, trust me.
That's not a lot but quality I've, you know, invest in
quality. I love bags.
I love jewelry clothes. I love a good jacket.
I think style. Over fact, you know things that
Loft things which are fearfulness.
I really believe in that. But but is there one specific
piece that you think I will that my wedding day?
Or oh, I've got some Chanel humph.
So I think I've just like, I bought them when I was pregnant
and I said to myself, this might be the last nice thing.
I've been five for a while, that's just amazing and they
still fit, and they feel fit their lovely.
I love those, I love, you know, my wedding dress like the vine
that like, wow, and that's really was pink, Duchess satin
and I went for this kind of thing like yeah like a soft pink
pearl, I love that. I was very Proud.
You know, that that was a breakthrough for me because I
couldn't physically fit into anything and I was like, you
know what? The universe bends to me.
So I hired a dressmaker and I designed my fantasy dress and I
made, you are unbelievably positive, I love it.
You're now doing a lot of television and therefore,
probably need a lot more clothes for your appearances.
Do you use a stylus? I love to dress myself.
I do have a stylist, a nice lady, who's amazing.
She's a friend of tree leaves. And you ever let her take you
out of your comfort zone. Yes.
I mean she picked this dress. I when I got here, but I love
it. And it's so interesting to see
how other people see you through someone else's eyes and what
they. Yeah.
So she's pushed the envelope for me in terms of, you know, there
is you just give yourself permission.
Yeah, yeah. Fantastic.
Do you have a worst fashion moment?
Federal say that in such a way that you don't want to talk
about invite will move right on several.
I mean my God I'm just so lucky I didn't grow up in the social
media age that those more photographic evidence.
There's some Whoppers there was a hot-pink crop top with a
fluffy 3D bear between my boobs. Micro-mini by high.
And then I went to Harrods up where I had the best day ever.
I got me into a lot of clubs and buying the same thing for like,
19 pounds and thinking I was very clever and I just had a
real teddy bear, rucksack, and I just amazing.
It was kind of iconic in how for the what with what's going on,
but I thought that was fun. So when you're getting dressed
in the morning, do start with one particular item in mind that
you really want to wear and then build around it.
Are you, are you a planner? I am a planner, and I also went
to a school, which didn't have a uniformed?
Whoa. Yes, Rich was the like, yeah,
you know, I went to school in Knightsbridge of golf Corner
Knightsbridge And they didn't have a uniform which would so
dangerous. I think it's really tough on
particularly teenage girls because it's so much pressure.
Wow. So like in terms of economics in
this but we didn't have a school uniform.
So every day I would dress as a character and I was really more
like, I'd be like French sailor. It's a pirate.
So I would always have some crazy beam in my head.
So I mean, I'm not as extra as I used to be, but I would wake up
and I dress for a mood so hard. And is it a, is it the mood of
the moment? And yeah so like you know or or
theme you know like pink baby doll or baby blue pastels or
something. Go.
I'm like you know pistachio cream.
I am that. I am that person.
So I will show today was a bit baby Bluey, you know, fabulous,
no teeth. I think it just makes life so
much more fun when you have to do the school run and laundry
and dishwasher pistachio cream today.
So when you're going shopping, do you plan what you want?
Or are you a complete impulse buyer.
Impulse buyer were all sort of knew you were gonna say, you
didn't even after you do it for fire.
But also because I'm, you know, I'm curvier, it's not as easy
for me. So, when I see something, I bet,
you know, if there's something that looks great on me, and Fitz
and comfortable, or by in every color, you know, it's so do you
shop online? Then there's that more
difficult. I like, I do shop online.
I shocked. Like, but only stores I know,
will like, I know the car. I know the sizing I feel
comfortable but it can be more challenging to be more fabulous
when other designers aren't really on board.
Yeah, I hear what you're saying. So travel let's talk about
travel you pay particular attention to what your airport
look will be, you know comfort for me all the way.
I God bless Victoria Beckham. They know she was she said it's
like a Runway and high heels and everything.
I just I have so much admiration and clap quietly when I see
someone. I'm pulling a look at airport
that for me. Yeah, but they've been buggy.
Yeah to the place that they're about to be snapped at and then
the bug eat away from it. Yeah, so I know with my children
a bag for that ranked like eat your breakfast let's go.
So to me, it's Comfort. It's because I just I want to be
comfortable. Yeah good Packer bad Packer bad
Packer chaotic too much too much.
My mom always did to teach me to roll like roll the clothes and
light so that but I I'm a control freak.
Week. And so I want something for
every eventuality leaving the planet.
Or do you just throw it all in? And think it will work.
Its way out on the other end. I think I'm a bit probably in
between. So like, I okay.
What happens if we suddenly we have to have a dinner.
Do - I want something for every occasion.
I'm the same. I thought this.
Let's pack into a tiny case. I'm not a millionaire.
Okay. So honest We if you're going for
longer than the night, yeah. How many bags to take it once?
Once the well, like a bit like a suitcase and carry-ons is that
bad. But you know what?
I think that's fine. You know what half of its my
makeup, okay, I put my hands up. Like the smallest bag will be
for the clothes. Most of it is my skincare and
makeup. Would you say is your You secret
could be an accessories brand, doesn't have all like, you know,
nothing's guilty like hi-low, pocket-friendly, High Street.
I think everything's amazing. I love H&M.
Henny like, depending on how a car old.
You are people say hm O Henry's, which one are you hanging by
their knees? But if you're under a certain
age, people features a do I was going to say, hm.
But then, I thought, oh, that makes me very young.
I don't know. Which means, I like to be in my
dreams. I love ya.
I love cars. I like, I like High Street, I
like designing things, I like everything in between bit of
crime on. He's amazing.
Everything is anything that you've got an excessive amount
of in your wardrobe. Oh my goodness.
I mean, I do have a lot of bras like good quality kind of got
the biggest boobs in the world. So I love good quality broth.
You know, I think good lingerie is the foundation of any outfit
so I love alone. Me and you know, Kirby Kate
bras, I think they're amazing. But what do Have I have more
dresses now, which is lovely. I never had dresses before
because I could never get great tights.
Which sounds again, it's a diversity thing.
If you can't get good ties, you don't feel comfortable wearing a
dress, but I've discovered a new brand called stag tight which
have like Plus Sizes, amazing colors.
And that's open to whole world of dresses.
You're wearing these amazing pink tights to do that man.
Yeah the crowd the on pink tights.
Amazing. Lots of I have more dresses now
which I love You have a particular color that you revert
to again and again Pig my I think it's my spiritual color.
It's really? I mean next to your skin tone,
it's absolutely gorgeous. Thank you, yes.
Pink guilty secret. Most expensive item of clothing
that you bought. You don't have to tell me how
much clothing or handbag, it can be an accessory.
Have a generally, it is like I said, when I thought I needed
it, I've AMA backstage. Let's see.
Be a lot of God should not have bag like you Foo.
Yeah, I'm one of you. I look, I'm part of your club
and it didn't work. I still had my progressions, but
probably a Michael Ashen, a handbag probably.
Did you ever sort of think about pounds per where you have
justify toe death? I mean, you know what, it that I
don't feel. I need the police, they're
beautiful things, I love luxury, I love things which are, well,
made and crafts and they're all they're beautifully protected
for my golf. I've got a question.
So do you look after things react I just think of you're
going to luck out. Love this.
Go in there. Go shopping.
Knock yourselves out. So I know that.
It's ready for them. Lovely.
So you do you ever sell any of your pieces that you've had
enough of? Just because you've got two
daughters. But just think what would
daughter. But they now interested that
because they're beginning, their sniffing around for their 11 and
they say things like Mommy can I have that mean one day that
ring? I love it.
Straight in there. Your engagement ring and I could
hear the whispering they're dipping it up already.
So yeah. Go for do they get on?
Well do they? I mean they it's a it's such a
special bond, being a twin and their paternal for turn and
return or returned alone, identi, not identical yet,
completely different chalk and cheese.
My goodness, one's a corporate lawyer one's an artist like
literally like both ends of the spectrum.
They're both fabulous. They love each other.
They are so sweet. They feel, I still, you know, at
bedtime, I hear giggling and they'll be in each other's
bedroom. Like and it's just a best friend
for life or it's just a hater. Get out of my class so it's one
or the other and but I can't they have a very special bond.
Yeah. Lovely.
What's your approach to sustainable fashion?
I think it's so important to think about the future
environment. I think when you buy quality
that's automatically sustainable this kind of like Fast fashion
is I mean it's for the delicious but we have to think about the
impact on our planet. So I do think when you buy
quality and things that last that that that is helping so
much. Yeah, quality over quantity.
Big toy. You ever think of that person
who's actually made your garment to what country they live in,
how they live where they work? Yes I'd like very conscious of
like God's you know. No child labor like people's
quality of life. Life and that we are all
connected and we have a responsibility to each other.
I completely believe in that. But yeah.
So do you specifically, would you avoid certain brands if you
felt? They were not ethical.
Yes, definitely. That's how we all have power
with how we spend wherever you put, you know, the world runs on
the economics. That's not the who you know,
that's not be cute about it. And so if you put money
somewhere and you put your energy and your focus and your
vocal then will people because of Economics will do the right
thing. Yeah, absolutely.
Would you do with your clothes? When you've had enough of them?
I recycle them. I'll you know whoever upcycle do
you ever change them or make a dress into a top, or I wish I
could do that. I wish I was half of it made
everybody but I'll be, I'll return them to like headings
have a like a program or in where I live.
There's lots of recycling centers, so I'll make sure it
goes right? It's needed and and you have a
cell. I don't really I don't really
think. Think I should, I think I should
jump on it but I'm I don't know. I think I'm just I don't I'm not
good at life admin like that, that seems too complicated.
What is the oldest piece in your wardrobe?
I might be vintage or something, your mother gave you or IV.
I've got I still have a pair of red boots, from another 6 years
old. No, which I, that I don't think
I, I think I slept in them. Yeah, they were these because I
know they just made me feel so grown up in If I still have them
in the back of the cupboard summer, they made me feel like a
grown woman fabulous and I will never, and I will never forget
that feeling, so they're in the back of the cupboard, somewhere
just feeling. Look at my red leather boots.
I had white cowboy boots with red stitching.
There you go. Literally, you're my twin and I
wish I still had the yeah, yeah, they made me feel amazing.
And would you say you, I think we've covered this that you look
after your clothes and your accessories.
Well, I do respect things. Yeah, you know, because I I mean
I grew up very rich and then my parents got a divorce and then I
was very poor because my dad did a number and so I know both
sides of the coin and I know what it is to be going to school
with very wealthy people and also not having anything and try
to you know the kind of cats complex very complex.
So I think as a result I have a respect for things because I
know they're not easily replaced.
Okay, I've got some quick fire questions for you.
You ready? Yes.
High end or High Street. High-end his heart, of course
your teeth. I end, bling or bear playing,
minimalism will maximalism. I know the answer to this is
that Max could cure or share a charity shop could sha 1.
Awful bug off, one off, Crocs cute, or puke puke sneakers are
just letters because skinnies or boyfriends or why. wide legs, in
terms of jeans, skinny body, Contour boho Boho Sports Luxe or
rock chick Sports Luxe Glam or grunge Glam red carpet or relax,
probably both but maybe red carpet in my bedroom in your
dreams. If I treat her red carpet while
watching that our we party world PJ's PJs, Trend or Style, Style,
color or monochrome. How do you talk to that color?
No hat, no plane. Hmm.
Plain experimental, uniform experimental Kashmir or cotton.
Like, I'm allergic to wool. Oh my body of those women who is
allergic to wool. Seriously makes me break out and
contact dermatitis. And I just think my body knows,
my body knows cash me. I'm worth it.
Yeah, well, take that away from me Kashmir border or Or editor,
charity shop or resale charity? Shop.
Integer rental vintage recycled or up cycled recycled shapewear
or sexy lingerie. Shapewear title stockings tight
keaney in One Piece, One Piece, but I love to wear bikini be
fun. It's been one big enough for my
boobs. Trilby or Tracy as in Philip
treacy, o JC my goodness and finally at a one last question
at the end of the day, what do you or don't you wear to bed?
I do like from mfp, Chase, awesome, awesome, fragrance, and
nothing at all. And that time is an extreme
person or just a spritz of perfume.
Thank you very much. Please join me next week, when I
will be talking to the gorgeous, Sophie ellis-bextor, about her
love of latex and her wonderful vintage finds.
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