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Good morning. 
It's great to see you. 

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It's great to be together today.
If we have not met, my name is 

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Josh. 
I have the joy of serving as 

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pastor here at the Garden. 
Well, this morning we are in 

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week four of our series through 
the book of Daniel titled 

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faithful in Babylon. 
And and today we get to this 

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fascinating story. 
This is a jam packed story all 

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in Daniel chapter 3 here that 
that a lot of if you grew up in 

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church, you know this one 
because it's in every children's

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Bible. 
This is like one of the the the 

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the greatest hits Sunday school 
stories of Daniel's three 

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friends in the fiery furnace. 
I want to suggest to you this 

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morning that this isn't just a 
kids Bible story. 

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This is actually a profound 
story about allegiance and the 

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way in which fear tempts us to 
slip out of integrity. 

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Shortly after I moved to Boston,
I was playing host to some 

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friends who were in from out of 
town. 

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They were visiting. 
And so we were going around the 

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city and doing all of the 
touristy things. 

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And on this particular day, we 
had been walking from kind of 

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government Centre across towards
the North End and, and something

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caught our attention in the 
Plaza there in front of Faneuil 

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Hall. 
Maybe you've been in that area 

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or passed through. 
I feel like normal Bostonians 

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don't actually ever go there. 
But but, but on this day, there 

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was a crowd gathered around a 
group of St. performers. 

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And they had they had a jam 
session, you know, they had 

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their their portable speakers. 
And there was this dance troupe 

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of young, extremely fit Jamaican
and black guys out there doing 

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this just incredible dance 
routine with flips and spins and

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breaking and all kinds of stuff,
along with a generous amount of 

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crowd work. 
And we weren't in a hurry. 

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So on this day, I was like, you 
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Let's check this out. 
So we peeked forward, like, kind

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of what's going on? 
I, like, kind of found a spot to

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peer in between the crowd. 
And as soon as I did, the MC, 

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the dude with a mic calls out. 
He's like, for this next part, 

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we need some volunteers. 
I need a couple of tall white 

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guys. 
And he looked right at me. 

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And I knew at that moment 
already that I was toast. 

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Like, like before I had a chance
to back away, one of his 

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associates is there grabbing me 
by the arm, pulling me into the 

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middle of the circle. 
And he's, you know, we're giving

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it up for the tall, sexy, rich 
white guys. 

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Come on. 
And so here I am in the middle 

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of this circle, 200 people 
downtown Boston. 

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And in the next few moments, you
know, there's a choreography 

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that occurs, right? 
You know, step in this way. 

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He got to do a power Superman 
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And before you know it, I am all
of a sudden, I think serving as 

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a backup dancer for what can 
only be described as a scene 

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that probably like the vibes 
were Usher, but the cast were 

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middle-aged, out of shape white 
guys. 

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It was it was, it was one of the
more embarrassing moments of my 

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life. 
But I tell you this humiliating 

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story because it's it makes an 
interesting point. 

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And that point is, you know, at 
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anybody hold a gun to my head, 
right? 

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I was not forced to do this, 
even though if you would have 

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asked me earlier in the day, 
what are the probabilities of 

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you doing a sexy, hip thrusting,
gyrating dance in front of 

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strangers downtown Boston, I 
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It was not on my bingo sheet for
the day. 

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But all of a sudden I ended up 
in this space where there was a 

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choreography, there was social 
pressure, and you take one step 

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and then you take another step 
and before you know it, you're 

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in a space doing things that 
don't feel like you at all. 

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And I tell this story because I 
think it has some parallels to 

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what we see here in the book of 
Daniel in chapter 3. 

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See, in Daniel chapter 3, we 
find that the Babylonian emperor

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Nebuchadnezzar, who we talked 
about a lot last week, has built

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a giant gleaming 9 story tall 
golden statue. 

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He, he set it up and, and then 
he summons people. 

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The officials from across the 
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every province, everybody's got 
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Show up to the plain of Dora to 
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Of course, they take the steps. 
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king. 
And so one after the other, they

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all arrive there in the plain of
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Music starts to play. 
There's the social lubricant, 

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and then before you know it, a 
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step. 
He says you must fall down and 

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worship the image. 
Not only that, but in verse 6, 

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whoever does not bow will 
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blazing for furnace. 
Now there's some really 

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interesting imagery here, 
especially if you were with us 

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last week when TC walked through
Daniel's or the King's vision 

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that Daniel interpreted, which 
happens right before this in 

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Daniel chapter 2. 
This is fascinating because you 

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may remember that in in Daniel 
chapter 2, God gives the king a 

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vision of a statue. 
And sure enough, the king is 

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represented by like the golden 
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But do you remember what 
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Like the rest of the statue is 
not made of gold, and this 

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stone, not carved by human 
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knocks the statue down and 
supplants it. 

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God has just given the king a, 
a, a vision, the emperor a a 

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kind of a directive of like your
Kingdom, your power, your 

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authority is limited. 
There's an end date on this. 

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There's a time stamp. 
You are not ultimate. 

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So what happens? 
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humility and contemplates his 
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No, he does what emperors do. 
He's like, let me build a giant 

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statue, right? 
Let's cover it in gold. 

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Let's make everybody worship, 
everybody fall down. 

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And this is the mode of empire 
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The the image tells a lie. 
God says Babylon is not 

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ultimate. 
You're not the whole story. 

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Your Kingdom is partial and 
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God has said is fragile, I call 
eternal. 

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What you say is partial, I say 
is ultimate. 

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He takes what is afraid and he 
dresses it up in gold. 

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And look, this is not just an 
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And the parallels to today are a
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are they not? 
I don't like getting political. 

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But like I can't read this and 
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like the leader of our country 
is sending around images with 

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massive golden statues in Miami 
posting to social media about 

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the the massive golden images of
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Like we live in a moment that is
in some ways very different and 

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in some ways the lust for power,
the grandiosity, the the 

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delusional self promotion. 
It's as present today as it ever

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was. 
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just grandiosity. 
It's what empire then does with 

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this grandiosity to force 
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that it puts pressure on 
individual people to slip out of

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their integrity and conform. 
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because, as we talked about last
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anxiety that is producing the 
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A desire to control, a desire to
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and control is very much running
through at least a significant 

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portion of the church in 
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In this imagination, the church 
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country back, then we risk 
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It seeks to mobilize us all in 
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the forces of, of wokeness, 
right? 

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It, it says the, the, the goal 
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sure that we have our morals, 
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that we're central. 
We've got to leverage and 

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mobilize the architecture of 
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Friends, this is the way of the 
empire, not the way of the 

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cross. 
I want to be very clear this 

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morning that this anxiety system
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church, it is running through 
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And, and every time this 
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the anxiety. 
I can appreciate the discomfort.

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When we choose to run on the 
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inevitably end up losing our own
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But as we look at this 
situation, as we look at this 

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story in Daniel 3 and the 
pressure exerted on these three 

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Jewish kids, still young men, 
they're at the base of this 

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statue with everybody else 
facing the pressure to conform, 

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to go along with the music, to, 
to declare their allegiance. 

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I think we have to ask, I asked 
as I sat with this text this 

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week, where do, where do I feel 
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Where does the pressure for me 
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Like where in my in my soul do I
experience the rub, the pull to 

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shift out of integrity and into 
something that can form 

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something that gets social 
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And for me, Christian 
nationalism, while absolutely a 

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problem is, is not the 
temptation. 

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And maybe not for you either. 
I know most of you, many of you,

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I don't think that that's the go
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But I know that we live in a 
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for the first time in a long 
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generally for being a Christian,
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We're a little bit weird, right?
There has been a shift from some

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assumptions, a moment that that 
the social scientists call 

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Christendom, where essentially 
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being a Christian showing up to 
church was, was a pretty good 

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move, regardless of what you 
thought about the spiritual 

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implications of it. 
Like socially, you've met some 

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people who had some connections,
right? 

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You got some positive kudos from
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And I can tell you that that has
all slid not only because the 

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social scientists tell me that 
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post Christian moment, but also 
because I have introduced myself

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as a pastor many times in 
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Boston and just watch the room 
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All of a sudden, that person who
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freely and sharing about their 
life start apologizing for 

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cursing earlier in the 
conversation as though I'm like 

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somehow the agent of God to 
bring retrofusion on you for 

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saying a four letter word. 
Like we're, we're in a, a, a 

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different space now where 
sometimes the social pressure 

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actually runs in the other way, 
to self edit to hide those parts

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of our self that don't jive with
those around us for fear of, of 

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what others might think, what 
others might say, how others 

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might imagine us in the stories 
they might tell if we were in 

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integrity with our faith, if we 
were really honest about what we

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knew to be true. 
And this is the question for 

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Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego 
in this text that they faced 

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this morning. 
They're on the plane of Doras. 

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Everybody is following the 
choreography. 

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Everybody is bowing. 
Everybody is stepping to the 

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tune of the King's drum. 
The question is, what will they 

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do? 
Will they too follow suit? 

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And in fact, they don't. 
But we read here that after the 

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instructions are given, after 
the horn and the flute and the 

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zither and the wire and the harp
play that in fact they do not 

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fall down. 
And the people around them are 

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tattle tales. 
Man, these, these, these folk 

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out here are some snitches. 
They immediately come and 

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they're like, let me tell you 
what those guys did. 

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They probably didn't like them 
already. 

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And isn't it true sometimes, 
like sometimes when we when we 

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actually stand in our integrity,
when everybody else is bowing, 

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then it makes other people 
uncomfortable and makes other 

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people not like us. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like I remember working at an 
employer that will remain 

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unnamed in the previous season 
of life that had just a super 

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toxic culture, to be honest. 
And, and the one way that us Co 

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workers and employees bonded was
by talking crap about everybody,

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right? 
Everybody was just the bosses, 

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this, the customers suck that, 
you know, that other guy that 

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you know, that was the whole 
culture, everybody. 

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This was how we connected. 
And I was part of it for a 

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while. 
And then I remember one day the 

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Holy Spirit came in and he was 
like, you're, you're being 

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really mean. 
You're you're gossiping about 

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people behind their backs. 
Like this is not an integrity. 

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This is gross. 
Like what are you? 

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What are you doing, man? 
And I, I felt that and I kind of

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repented, had to make some 
apologies. 

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is talking crap about the 
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And there's this just this 
scornful look that comes my way.

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And well, that was awfully 
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Now, because I've chosen not to 
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centre of the contempt of the 
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Do you know what I'm talking 
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You felt what I'm talking about.
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clear, because in Daniel Chapter
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power of the state. 
He's got a fiery furnace, he's 

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got soldiers, He's able to take 
people and throw their bodies 

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into the fire. 
This is not an eye roll, a 

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brunch, right? 
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There are levels to how this 
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social power can exert itself. 
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the imagination trying to, to, 
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They are not. 
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attentive to though, friends, is
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empire, systems of anxiety, 
systems of evil try to prop 

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themselves up at the expense of 
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control us, to loop us in, to, 
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I don't know how that happens 
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somewhere in your life that you 
feel that pull, you feel that 

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tension, that that tension to 
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self edit to, to be a little bit
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And, and you're not likely, I 
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fiery furnace, right? 
Your life hopefully doesn't 

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depend on it right now, in this 
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Maybe it's like you're standing 
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comes from everybody for being 
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status quo, the peace, the 
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agreed on is important. 
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out in your company or in your 
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to the strip club for the 
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say, like, look, I'm not over 
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statue. 
I, I, I'm not staging a counter 

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protest. 
I just am not going to bow down 

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like this takes me out of 
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faith. 
Sometimes we're called to make a

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stand. 
A couple weeks ago, we looked at

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all of the options that Daniel 
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negotiate, to make requests, to,
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system. 
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sometimes it's not. 
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and crisis comes where we just 
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This is what I believe. 

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there's a cost, there's a 
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refuse the pressure to perform 
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music. 
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The the the scenario was was 
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Here, Shadrach, Meshal and 
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they were to be thrown 
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furnace we read in verse 6. 
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We see. 
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I, I imagine from his 
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He says, hey guys, look, I want 
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clear on the consequences of 
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I'm going to give you one more 
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And if you defy me, you're done.
Straight into the fiery furnace 

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you go. 
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Azariah, they say, look, King, 
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We don't need another chance. 
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this. 
It's so powerful. 

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They say here. 
Got to find where they say here,

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they say. 
In verse #16 we don't need to 

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defend ourselves before you in 
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If we're thrown into the blazing
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able to deliver us from it. 
And who will deliver us from 

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Your Majesty's hand? 
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important and the most 
significant line in all of the 

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texts here in verse 18. 
He's they say. 

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But even if he does not, we want
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we will not serve your gods or 
worship the image that you have 

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set up. 
So we know what happens in this 

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story. 
We'll talk about it in just a 

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minute. 
In this moment, these men, these

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young men, go against the grain 
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They stand up in their 
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They are faithful, they are 
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But I want to be honest. 
That's not always how this story

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goes like that is a true story 
which occurs. 

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I believe this really happened 
in Scripture, but it's not 

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always the way it goes. 
A Dietrich Bonhoeffer protested 

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in Nazi journey and he was 
executed. 

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At the end of Hebrews Chapter 
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We read this whole history of 
people who who lived in faith 

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and were killed. 
There's a, a book that I, I read

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growing up called Fox's book of 
Martyrs, which details story 

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after story of people who lived 
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apostles too. 
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saying this is that what I'm 
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I'm suggesting to you, what I'm 
promising you is not a, a get 

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out of jail free card. 
The, the, the moral of this 

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story is not like, if you do the
right thing, then God will bail 

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you out and you won't have to 
pay any consequences. 

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You are on the right side and 
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That's actually the story of 
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That's the story of Christendom.
That's not the story of 

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Scripture, because what we 
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is that they go into the 
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The king is is filled with rage,
The text tells us at their 

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refusal. 
See earlier, when they were just

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making some dietary choices that
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happen in private, The king was 
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They were willing to make some 
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But this time, this time their 
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Babylon that there was another 
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the king, a way of following 
another empire, a way of faith 

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and courage. 
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scares scared leaders the most, 
demonstrating that we all don't 

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have to follow, that the emperor
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that this is actually nonsense. 
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it's a tremendous threat to the 
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They turn the furnace up. 
They take their strongest guys 

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and they Chuck them straight 
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And this is so cool because I 
love this, like it. 

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If, if I were to have thought 
about how God rescued, how God 

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intervened in this situation, I 
don't think I could have come up

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with such a cool story because 
God doesn't do what I think we 

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would have prayed for or thought
about. 

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He doesn't like to change the 
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Like the king doesn't stop being
an evil dictator. 

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He doesn't, you know, somehow 
quiet the blaze. 

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He, he doesn't like, give them 
invisibility cloaks so that they

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can bail out. 
They go straight into the fire. 

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The fire is lethal. 
It it eats up everyone around 

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it, consuming even the soldiers 
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But to these men who have been 
faithful, all the fire can 

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consume is their chains, the 
things that bind them. 

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Those are consumed, and the men 
stand there free, walking around

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in the flame. 
And this is such a cool moment 

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in the story. 
It's so compelling. 

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In this moment. 
The king looks in, expecting for

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them to be silenced, expecting 
for them to be snuffed out, 

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expecting for his his rule and 
his authority and the fear by 

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which he exerts control on 
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He looks into the fire expecting
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instead sees not three men 
before King is like what is 

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going on? 
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the 4th appears like a son of 
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Jesus is with them in the fire. 
Man, I get goosebumps thinking 

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about that. 
Like is anybody else excited? 

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Are you guys asleep like this? 
Come on, this is like this is so

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cool, right? 
Like Jesus meets them in the 

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fire and I wonder, I have to 
wonder like was Jesus there the 

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whole time? 
I wonder if that's actually like

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he was hanging out. 
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I don't think that they 
experience Jesus if they're not 

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faithful to their conscience, if
they don't risk it, if they 

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don't enter the fire, They 
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experience the presence of Jesus
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They made a risk. 
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you're not ashamed of me on that
final day, I won't be ashamed of

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you either. 
And this is what we see here. 

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These men step out in faith, in 
courage and believe, not in the 

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belief that this is all going to
work out, that God has a perfect

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plan for your life. 
And then I'm going to end up 

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rich and famous and and healthy 
and wealthy because I did the 

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faithful thing. 
They say we believe God can show

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up. 
We think he will. 

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But even if he doesn't, we're 
going to stand in our integrity.

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Friends, where does this hit for
you this morning? 

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Where is the pressure in your 
life to to bow? 

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Maybe just a little to self 
edit, to minimize, to present a,

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a version of you forward at, at 
at work, in your family, with 

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your classmates or your 
housemates or your friends, 

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maybe even here in the church. 
It's like a little bit more 

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attractive in this way where you
slip a little bit out of 

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integrity where everybody else 
is doing it. 

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And so you just keep the 
choreography going and you say, 

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like, that's not that big of a 
deal. 

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They could have done that. 
Daniel's friends could have, 

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they could have said, well, this
is this is just my yoga pose for

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the day. 
I'm not really bowing in my 

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heart. 
I'm standing up, but they said 

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no, this is a line and I'll 
stand even if it costs me 

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friends. 
What might it look like for us 

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to be a community that really 
believes that following Jesus is

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worth it? 
Like, not because we're culture 

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warriors and need to attack the 
other side. 

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Not because we, you know, are so
certain that we have all the 

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right answers and need to insist
and, and battle, but simply to 

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be people of integrity who, who,
who deeply read and wrestle with

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the scriptures, who follow our 
Lord. 

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And then when all of culture is 
running in the other direction, 

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even if it costs us, even when 
we say, like, man, I really want

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a partner right now, but I 
haven't found somebody who 

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shares my values. 
Man, I I like, I'm lonely and 

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I'd love to be having sex with 
this person right now, but I'm 

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going to wait on covenantal 
union. 

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Where are we going to take 
those, those moments where we 

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pause and when we say, hey, 
like, I want to be in integrity,

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not, and not because of some 
social pressure, but because 

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actually I believe Jesus that 
you are the way, the truth, the 

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life that you know better, that 
your way is life in flourishing.

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And so even if everybody's 
running in the opposite 

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direction, I'm going to be 
faithful and I'm going to follow

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you, not because I'm better than
them, but because I trust you, 

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even if it costs me. 
I want to be faithful. 

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I want to be unbowed, friends, 
as we enter into a time of 

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reflection and response this 
morning, where's the rub for you

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here? 
Like I know that it's present 

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for me. 
I'm not the Holy Spirit up here 

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this morning trying to to tell 
you the things in your life you 

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need to fix. 
But but if you're listening, I 

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bet the Holy Spirit is 
highlighting some things for 

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you. 
Are you willing to take a stand 

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of courage to be faithful even 
if people are going in the other

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direction, to be somebody who is
willing to pay a price to trust 

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Jesus? 
Friends, I think if we do, we 

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will experience His power, we 
will experience his presence, 

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and we will be a witness that 
even the Emperor has to come 

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face to face with and say I 
cannot control, I cannot 

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explain. 
There's something there that's 

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different. 
May we be such a people.

