1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,280 Hi, this is Sharda Agra. Hello, this is Mohammad Assam. 2 00:00:03,280 --> 00:00:07,160 Hi, this is Pradeep Magazine. Welcome to the PCCI podcast. 3 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:38,160 So welcome to the PCCI podcast. Today we have with us senior 4 00:00:38,160 --> 00:00:41,000 journalist Chandrashekhar Lutraji. 5 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:49,160 He joins us to speak on what's happening in world cricket with 6 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:55,160 a focus on 2 main topics. 1 is the treatment meted out to 7 00:00:55,160 --> 00:01:01,680 Bangladesh and 2nd on Pakistan's decision to boycott the February 8 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:08,000 15th game versus BCCI. Very, very warm welcome to BCCI. 9 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Thank you. Thank you very much. 10 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:28,120 I think and Saurabh are with us today and I think ICC. 11 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:03,840 Great soul. It's just like you know old 12 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:13,040 times of you show me the face, I'll show you the rule, you show 13 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,560 me the face. India very close to Jaisha. 14 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,640 When Jaisha took over as the Chairman of ICC on 2nd or 4th 15 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:27,520 December 2024, immediately there was a issue from about Champions 16 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Trophy. So India said or not India, his 17 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Papa said. Political compulsions I can 18 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:54,520 understand, which could happen to anyone, immediately came up 19 00:02:54,520 --> 00:03:01,040 with a solution. Pakistan. 20 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Pakistan Cricket Board Pakistan major countries 2009 K attack 21 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Sri Lanka cricket is in a very dire state and overall if you 22 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,560 look at the recent matches between India and Pakistan it's 23 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:35,360 been 1 sided. So there has been problems to 24 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:54,920 show your, you know might neutral country Papa or cricket. 25 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:05,440 They stated the fact, internal security, whether it's 26 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,520 Australia, India, England, anybody, if you're touring any 27 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,760 country, obviously the clearance has to come from the internal 28 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,600 ministry, home ministry that mean and foreign ministry. 29 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:29,320 So that was the stated fact. Pakistan, Bangladesh. 30 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:55,760 Bangladesh political connection or Indian foreign policy of 31 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:06,400 political reporter Foreign policy The 32 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:27,680 best player one of the best left in the world Cricket not the top 33 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:39,480 but top three or top 4 is a very good player because his team is 34 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:51,360 from the Bengal side. KKR he picked them up One of the 35 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:58,080 best selling player 9.9.29.2 crores so absolutely fine. 36 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:30,800 BJP party BJP party is captured by BJP multi party function 37 00:06:32,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Cortana Goswami type program. In BCCI meetings with Eka, and 38 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,960 I'm very serious about it, meetings with Eka, the president 39 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:19,840 secretary, this is the kind of ecosystem right now we have. 40 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:38,120 So Bangladesh, my best friend, my father or internal security 41 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:59,920 because that was the stated position of ICC Security Agency 42 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Internal Security Committee. Arebhai security threat. 43 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,160 How can you deny that choice to Bangladesh? 44 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,040 You can't have two different rules for two different 45 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,960 countries and that's how it all started. 46 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:50,040 Or Pakistan, India match. Yeah. 47 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:47,640 Big Three, England or Australia. It's a very tricky situation 48 00:09:48,160 --> 00:10:17,800 voting. Many WOBI matches they can 49 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:29,760 experience man Sachin Tendulkar domestic matches OK Hamari 50 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:39,320 families are official families domestic India Australia India 51 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:50,360 England IPL multinational tournament 20 20 match spot 52 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:58,640 fixing. But I have seen it moment by 53 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:12,960 moment. Cricket domestic Pakistan, 54 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Australia, New Zealand become main Pakistan or Bangladesh. 55 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:43,640 I would say if you ask me Major 7577 or Cricket Divide 69 time 56 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:57,040 to survive world cricket, Pakistan, Imran Khan, Baki Puri, 57 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Dunia, big cricket, cricket multi national 58 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:45,160 game, Ireland or Scotland. It's a very, very dire situation 59 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,640 for world cricket. But Chandrashekarjee, I mean, we 60 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,640 heard someone say recently key cricket is not a global game, 61 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:58,000 it's a Commonwealth game, Commonwealth countries. 62 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:07,400 Abhi, given that ICCKCEO GB, you do obviously very crucial 63 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,080 questions. Who is going to ask this 64 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,240 question? And it is a uninformed opinion, 65 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,360 in a way, from our side. Key. 66 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,440 Given the BCCI influence within cricket, given the K subti 67 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:27,480 vector of Kalagar India team koi matchna jite koi crowd nai IPL, 68 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,680 it will always have a billion people as its audience. 69 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,960 A billion cricket crazy people. Do you think there is enough 70 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:42,200 within the cricket ecosystem? Key Abhi Moka Milay, Let's stand 71 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,000 up to the bullies. There are two ways to answer 72 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,040 your question. One is do we have enough 73 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:56,080 strength? I would say no to Jio Hotstar. 74 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,280 We can't telecast your matches. We are in a massive losses, 75 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:10,840 so-called influence, political backing, financial backing. 76 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:15,760 You are giving more money to the different countries, Khaskar, 77 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,040 big three, India, Australia and England. 78 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:32,520 I don't remember the money but I think it is to the tune of 2500 79 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,680 to 25,000 crore losses just for a better one. 80 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:49,680 I think 1000 losses. Pakistan match Bangladesh 81 00:14:50,800 --> 00:15:00,480 population, Pakistani eyeballs finalists. 82 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:07,560 A game of eyeballs. Eyeballs India miss saturation 83 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:13,040 point is super what Cricket Australia, New Zealand, South 84 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Africa mahad but never linear unkeep of soccer tennis. 85 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,640 Finally, your eyeballs is in Asian subcontinent. 86 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:34,080 Associate Afghanistan, Afghanistan, Afghanistan women, 87 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:41,680 cricket. Different story. 88 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:52,720 Finally, the eyeballs are in the subcontinent India. 89 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:20,200 Young, rich, but smart. But point is cricket. 90 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,480 I completely agree with you. Commonwealth Games Likim Cricket 91 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:32,040 globalization plan. Knockout used to go to. 92 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Associate team coach Globalization plan if I'm not 93 00:16:44,280 --> 00:17:07,240 wrong, Globalization number 1. 94 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:19,079 World Cup semifinals. Semifinal Fixing anti corruption 95 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:35,400 Bureau Ethnic countries World Cup India, Bangladesh, 96 00:17:36,480 --> 00:18:01,600 Bangladesh. Cricket, football, football. 97 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:38,600 Cricket spot fixing. IPL, money spinner, so-called 98 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:55,880 company, almost one game BCCI. And if I'm talking about 99 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:09,640 something like 45,000 crores, that is a white, white 100 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:28,800 ecosystem, ecosystem politics that as a as a journalist, I'm 101 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:46,360 not a cricket enthusiast, I'm a cricket reporter. 102 00:19:51,840 --> 00:20:23,320 Ecosystem illegal betting India. Just share market, it's a 103 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,200 massive loss. It's a massive challenge to what 104 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:37,440 cricket right now, if you ask me, I see a kind of compromise 105 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,400 somewhere. Pakistan 106 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:19,680 or Pakistan? Pakistan conversation has been 107 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:28,240 started as a cricketer, BJP, former member of Parliament. 108 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:49,320 What kind of cricket or what kind of foreign policy is this? 109 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,440 I mean, I'm not going to name the cricketers the way. 110 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:28,000 They were out. Dictators the more you perform 111 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:46,120 off track. Cricket, diplomacy, cricket 112 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:59,000 religion difference. So 71 Kivaru 90 is a fine 113 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:13,240 example. America name sport 114 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,080 because they understand this is a bridge, this is a diplomacy 115 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,160 that is probably, if not working, but somewhere open a 116 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:50,080 window somewhere or plus last cheese, Bangladesh. 117 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:08,280 Yes, Bangladesh episode. So I spoke to a former ICC 118 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,720 chief, BCCI chief. So he was literally in tears, he 119 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:19,560 said. Shekhar, forget politics, 120 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,200 Bangladesh, they've always backed us. 121 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:43,600 Pakistan. He was literally in tears. 122 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,440 Can I ask you can I ask you an existential question please? 123 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:08,840 Given given and cricket zoom out this alpha male kind of very 124 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:15,760 tyrant alpha male ecosystem. Are we now getting to a point 125 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:22,440 where make movie social network social networks are Bunny? 126 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,480 It became a hit. It was a beautiful movie and it 127 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,800 become a super hit. And pura Ek zeitgeiste umad 128 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,600 Zuckerberg hero ban Gaye wo zeitgeist ke Ki yehi hai Banda 129 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,280 isna banadiya Facebook mere hai Saab SE That movie is a lesson 130 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:44,200 Ki Zuckerberg ke life Mein Ek dost nahi uski girlfriend, loyal 131 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,000 partner. The last scene of that movie, 132 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:57,520 it's a very moving scene. But again, what? 133 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,360 You are saying is a lot of like the like they're also people, 134 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:13,240 right? They're a reflection of the 135 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:23,960 society. Ek, great old man. 136 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:29,360 He was the president of CCI for a very long time. 137 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:36,120 Because I just want to share this thing. 138 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:46,120 Great man, Great. So he shared this thing with me. 139 00:26:47,080 --> 00:27:10,560 Obviously I'm talking about about 20 years back, if not 140 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:18,600 less. This was before that so he said 141 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:46,040 signing amount is 50,000 as a president and what a great 142 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,880 gesture. Forget about money part and 143 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,360 everything, be a great cricketer. 144 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Not because I haven't seen him much later days but great 145 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:12,600 cricketer. I'm Privy to that jab Unko Tiger 146 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:26,360 IPL governing council chairman member is fixing but was so sure 147 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,320 I have nothing to do with this bloody cricket. 148 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,440 Later on became member because he needed money probably. 149 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:48,320 Maybe he needed money otherwise he was a great soul. 150 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:57,960 So anyway, but so point is cricket. 151 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Cricket, cricket, cricket believe me India sponsors 152 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,960 evidence is the may I say Pachas matches at least domestic Dilip 153 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:33,080 trophy ke Ranji ke Devda trophy from Sourav Ganguly to Sachin to 154 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:39,480 drove it to everybody Jihad stadium khula Chuta or Sour 155 00:29:39,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Banda dekhi or. Starting it was New Zealand 156 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,240 versus England, right? And it was with the finalists of 157 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,080 the previous World Cup finalists of. 158 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:27,320 The previous World Cup, it's a combination of so many things 159 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:50,360 global I'm Privy to that I have seen that I've done stories on 160 00:30:52,520 --> 00:31:37,480 that is still there, but ATV 60 6 1000 Pakistan politically. 161 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:21,840 Yeah, 80, 7, 87 God bless his soul. 162 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:52,720 Globalization Cup or cricket? 3 nation otherwise, but 163 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,920 unfortunately that's not the same. 164 00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:26,360 Ek sawal joki Yeah, structure dominance, right? 165 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:37,400 I think Saudi investors interested this is a Twitter. 166 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:59,440 Absolutely I. 167 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:10,920 Completely agree with you or May 8 point because of different 168 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:25,679 issues Hamari country hate hate. But overall, what you are saying 169 00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,920 is, is going to be a truth somewhere, you know, maybe after 170 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,800 10 years, five years after the evaluation of the of the IPL 171 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:57,200 franchise with franchise total exo Charlie's exo das team C. 172 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,920 I remember there was a story I did Supreme Court. 173 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,040 I was in Times of India. I don't remember the time but 174 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:24,480 Randeep Mahindra 2002 three and Pakistan 2005 2004. 175 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:34,160 I remember Supreme Court order on TV rights. 176 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:44,200 I did a page one story, obviously including BCCI chief. 177 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:59,880 Abu cricket Mahakumta Sablok Puri duniya 99 Supreme Court 178 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:13,320 order Joe Joe divide division formula 7030 that 70% of the 179 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,080 money will go to BCCI. So I did a page one story OK how 180 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,560 there is there are chances India will be see how you call of this 181 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:45,680 tour or this was the formula decided. 182 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,560 AAP Ki jitani bhi Jo karishma hai Jo world cricket. 183 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,920 That is because of the different stars Aaj Tendulkar, Khur Sehwag 184 00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:01,880 Ki Zaheer Khan, Khurani plays buddy star power name and the 185 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,520 star power comments ball Karara Karke Shubman Gilko bold Mara 186 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,560 jab Megrath bumper Mara Sachin Ki Khoni Pelagi or LBW. 187 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:18,360 Remember these things yeah. Johanna Cricket, cricket 188 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:41,880 domestic, successful domestic match spectators will be there. 189 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,720 People have different choices, free passes, car parking, 190 00:37:54,120 --> 00:38:02,760 different ecosystem and thanks to Lalith Modi for that. 191 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:20,240 Cricket, cricket. So that way it's it's again we 192 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:29,440 are in a situation compromise. If you ask me, we need a 193 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,200 compromise formula. Jasha also needs Australia also 194 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,600 needs everybody needs it Pakistan. 195 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:58,320 Finally, Australia is less friendly than Bangladesh 196 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:27,960 after for some reason immediately. 197 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,360 Better sense has to prevail somewhere. 198 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:42,920 His brains. This is what diplomacy. 199 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:28,640 Don't give them ideas. Like I have done reporting for 200 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,280 so long. I know a lot of people who have 201 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,320 done that religiously. But I'm so amused. 202 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:47,000 I'm so surprised. I mean, why you call him out 203 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,040 now? You call his name, he's there 204 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,680 for some reason or throw him out. 205 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:09,880 But Sir, But Sir, problem women 's cricket. 206 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:23,760 In players score wealth worth support X player Nam kulena 207 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:30,600 sachino Tendulkar. Why? 208 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:39,400 I asked him. For that matter, suppose I have 209 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:47,240 played hundred test matches 100, test value 90. 210 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,760 What calculate KGS? Suppose I have played hundred 211 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:32,440 tests 101 days, 100 T 20s made in suppose X number of soccer. 212 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,160 How can I become a 5000 crore person? 213 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:51,920 Banks, bank accounts. So it's a whole ecosystem. 214 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,800 I say cricket is nobody. Cricket. 215 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:24,080 Cricket may. IPS officer there, investigator 216 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,280 there. I have done a lot of stories. 217 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:35,880 I have, I mean. He was on the verge of cracking 218 00:43:35,880 --> 00:44:24,280 this entire thing. So there are so many things, 219 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:57,760 buddy, buddy. Without Kapan, let me tell you 220 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,520 so frankly, you cannot even fix a single ball. 221 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,160 Forget about a match over or everything spot fixing. 222 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:13,440 It is only through Kapan actually can. 223 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,320 I don't blame anybody because this is the way. 224 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:34,080 I think but it could last on this. 225 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,120 India. Pakistan. 226 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:41,280 I hope, I hope better sense should prevail for the 227 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,400 betterment of cricket. For the word cricket, both 228 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,680 India, Pakistan and world cricket, they need every team 229 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,160 especially Bangladesh, Pakistan, everybody. 230 00:45:52,680 --> 00:46:07,440 Pakistan is a christmatic team. Pakistan talent different, 231 00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:20,800 Pakistan 1 sided. It's not that this is sports. 232 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:33,040 Noah Djokovic, Can you believe that world #1 #2? 233 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,560 But that's the way sports is being played. 234 00:46:43,360 --> 00:47:14,120 Pakistan. You don't play by the word of 235 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,880 sportsman spirit, you play by some politician. 236 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,400 Yet trollers, what kind of sporting nation? 237 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:29,280 We have become our last. This is going to hurt you very 238 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:57,400 badly. 2036 Cup Olympics to that itself is like giving blank 239 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,400 cheque to IOC International Olympic Committee. 240 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,600 OK, Aapke Jobi member nation Joe Aapke official said Joe Aapke 241 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:11,280 participating countries, I don't know Olympics, Asian Games, 242 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,680 Commonwealth gear, but you don't require a visa. 243 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,920 You require a accreditation card card. 244 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:28,240 There will be a separate counter in Delhi airport, in Mumbai 245 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:35,120 airport or separate passport. I don't require a visa. 246 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:43,440 So. India, you are a member country, 247 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,280 you have all the permissions, you have spectators and they 248 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,600 require visa or OB visa, first come first serve I think or 249 00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:01,520 lottery system or whatever political party. 250 00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:27,720 Rahul Gandhi, that is your requirement after undertaking 251 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:42,160 Pakistan sense Bangladesh, my best friend, my father. 252 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:58,880 Now, this is not done. I just hope and I pray. 253 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,800 I'm not a political person, I'm not. 254 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,320 But yes, I'm a very secular person. 255 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,800 I was born in a very secular country and I believe in this 256 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,960 game of cricket, which is a beautiful game. 257 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,560 I have worshipped that, I have covered that, I have played that 258 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:19,920 and mujhe lagta Ki uski betterment or world cricket 259 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,880 betterment. Kelly, better sense should 260 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,080 prevail. Pakistan should be playing 261 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,160 India. There should not be any kind of 262 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,760 boycott, but there should not be any boycott. 263 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,360 Settle your matters. Whatever there is. 264 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,040 Give and take everywhere. You know, it's not as very clean 265 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,000 word where we are living right now. 266 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,400 Yeah, Joe, settlement and let cricket prosper. 267 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,120 Finally, cricket is going to stay there. 268 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,760 It has stayed there for last 100 and 2025 years. 269 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,520 So let cricket prevail, let better sense prevail and let 270 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,120 Pakistan play India. On that note, Sir, thank you so 271 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,720 much for joining. Thank you so much, Sir. 272 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,000 Pleasure, pleasure. This was my first podcast with 273 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,200 you and I really, really enjoyed it because you don't get this 274 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,480 much of time in the channels right now. 275 00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:25,960 Everybody wants to be thank. You. 276 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,560 Thank you. Thank you very much. 277 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:36,320 That marks the end of Part 1 of this episode where we spoke to 278 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,320 Chandrasekhar Luthra. And up next is our chat with 279 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,800 Behram. Welcome to BCCI podcast. 280 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,680 This is our second podcast of the day. 281 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,960 We feel like this guy who keeps telling he does podcasts all the 282 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,000 time. I'm talking about Behram who 283 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,240 keeps saying that he keeps doing podcasts all the time. 284 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,720 So welcome to the pod, Behram. Yeah, I mean, it's always a fun 285 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:03,520 time recording with you guys. I was really wanting to record 286 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,560 with you can get Jabbiqui Bakwa Sotina cricket kinder 287 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,280 politically to mera mood of the PCCI Vale boys, kisat chakar 288 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,440 baat Ki jaito here I am your resident jihadi bikari terrorist 289 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:29,960 sympathizer and porky, I'm back. Video MENA short clip rogue 290 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:44,960 state bolte fairpoint when? I start podcast key what is the 291 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,160 only thing that connects PCCI and Times Now is Baram kazi 292 00:52:51,640 --> 00:53:07,640 baram kazi Times Now baby I. Respect you for that decision. 293 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:13,640 Am I about to get Arnab right? And I talked to some people, my 294 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:24,920 colleagues in India and they were like experience and all 295 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,520 I'll say is that it was an experience. 296 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,560 I was fed to the wolves in a way were extreme bigoted crowd bar 297 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,280 bar many AGS reiterate here K India opened the political can 298 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,080 of worms when they sacked the fizz from the IPL based on his 299 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,080 nationality, which is pure discrimination. 300 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,560 No one ever answered that. Sidestep kar kar ke patani ka 301 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:51,680 pawan gay boys. By the way, by the way that but 302 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:57,840 if you ask about who started it, it was a random Baba like rando 303 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,880 who said and obviously because it was KKR right again, MI 304 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,440 neeliya uta no problem. It would have been, absolutely. 305 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:09,160 When that when that issue was going on, Shakib Al Hasan was 306 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,560 playing for MI Emirates in the ILT 20. 307 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,160 West Bengal is about to have elections, Bangladesh are about 308 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,120 to have elections. So the move was fairly like so 309 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,360 BJP want to break the like the presiding government in West 310 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,520 Bengal. So it was it had motivations 311 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,360 from that side as well. Key. 312 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,840 It is not just key. OK KKR. 313 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,200 It is why it makes sense the KKR could penalize him further. 314 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:46,240 And like Nishant said key, it was started by just the Baba 315 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:51,440 saying that are in Bangladesh and that's. 316 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,680 What it took to the government to take a decision key Nicola 317 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,840 Esco Yeah. That's this entire situation is 318 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,040 self is self created right Like yeah, avoidable situation. 319 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,040 They could have easily like been more evil and sacked the fizz 320 00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,360 right for the IPL right. So that probably would have 321 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,680 worked better for them in terms of hosting the T20 World Cup. 322 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,920 Look meh. Barbari analogy Diratha Times 323 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,160 Now PBK. Imagine that I am from country Y 324 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,600 and I hire someone from country X to work for my firm. 325 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,040 A politician starts creating a ruckus. 326 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:26,560 He starts threatening that player. 327 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,040 K Mesco airports in Nikolae Dunga Dhamkiya plagado. 328 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,160 I have to now let go of that employee. 329 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,080 I have to sack that employee because apparently he's from 330 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,360 country X, which is the enemy nation according to that 331 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,600 politician or Abbas Bundegi Family Joy, which was set to 332 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,320 tour my country, says we don't feel welcome or safe now 333 00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,160 visiting Tahmiya. We're rejecting the visit. 334 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:53,200 We're not going to do it. Isn't it like plain as day? 335 00:55:53,200 --> 00:56:00,440 This is not some complex math. Over here it's also two ways you 336 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,720 can deal with it. 1 is that you say as a Matlab politician in 337 00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:08,840 Bola Ki matlab Dell hum so TK matlab hum sakar. 338 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,520 The other way is what happened in 99 when Pakistan told right 339 00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,360 where Shiv Sena said you better not enter our country. 340 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,320 They dug up the Kotla pitch five days before the the first Test 341 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:20,800 match was supposed to be in Ferrocha Kotla. 342 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,640 They dug up the Ferrocha Kotla pitch. 343 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:27,120 The BCCI and Indian cricket went out of the way and said not only 344 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,800 are they coming, they're going to play a full fucking Test 345 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,240 series. They're going to play a Tri 346 00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,320 series. We are going to treat them well 347 00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,080 and they are going to treat us well. 348 00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,360 So go fuck yourself. Kotla will just be moved to the 349 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,240 second Test. We are going to hold the first 350 00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:43,000 Test in Chennai and one of the greatest sites cricket has ever 351 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,760 seen is after that heartbreaking loss, emotionally sapping loss, 352 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,760 the entire Chepauk ground gave a standing ovation to the entire 353 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,640 Pakistan team for a display worth giving a standing ovation 354 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,960 to. And so it is not just that 355 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,960 fringes. They are 98990919293 paths to 356 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,880 cancel. Why Hero Cup in Pakistan 357 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,280 Nainita? There is a way to shake off what 358 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,160 the fringes are saying and then the opposite is there is a way 359 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:20,160 that gives us an excuse to be bigoted and we are like. 360 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,320 Also you speak of the G POC crowd giving Pakistans team is 361 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,840 standing ovation after you know Sachin is out and there's 362 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,280 heartbreak. Yeah, this is all happening in 363 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,400 the backdrop of of a backdrop of a Kagil. 364 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,040 What armies are at play over here? 365 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,880 Pirbi dekho, cricket administrators, Uswat kitni, the 366 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,080 likes of Jagmohan Dalmi and IS Bindra rabi. 367 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,760 I don't know if you guys read that piece that Assan Mani been 368 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,560 down for Cricinfo. It was wonderful to read here. 369 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,360 Better times, less toxic times and cricket Co Baja to protect 370 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,960 kejata from the geopolitical filth that is now spilling over 371 00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:00,760 violently right like its insane or AAP ko pataki politically 372 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,800 volatile region banavi by subcontinent. 373 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,520 How can you go and make or open a political can of worms over 374 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,840 here by sacking Mr. Feaser, you know to appease your government 375 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,760 acting government and not expect equally politically charged 376 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,880 reactions. Bangladesh should be politics 377 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,080 Kaylia Jemanade Khan Indiana or Pakistan. 378 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,880 So Puri Puri politics Kaler. Now they should have done this 379 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,800 by the way, use this one bargaining chip on their table 380 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,560 and the only real card they have in their hand, the only leverage 381 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,400 they have of of forfeiting the India Pakistan game perhaps 382 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,000 before the Jaishya Cup jab Jaishan Asia Cup takeover 383 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:41,520 recently, recently. My member is bigger than yours. 384 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,080 It's a member measuring contest. At this point. 385 00:58:46,560 --> 00:59:13,120 Bicycle. The real question is now, like 386 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,560 how do passionate cricket fans in Pakistan feel? 387 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,520 Oh. My God, dude. 388 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,880 Richa enters the chat with an absolute banger. 389 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,680 Love it, yeah. Not him, not him. 390 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,280 I love him. What the fuck is he talking 391 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,320 about man? I have massive respect for 392 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,120 Harsha as. Well, I have someone. 393 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,960 Fill me in. Made a white noise. 394 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,720 Both come back OK. Kiss Harsha. 395 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,080 Bhogley said this. Harsha Bhogley asked this today. 396 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,440 Very similar to you. I have looked up to him my 397 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,560 entire life because he's someone who hasn't played cricket 398 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,280 professionally and he's doing the stuff that I want to do 399 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,800 professionally. And he's wonderful. 400 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,840 He's a legitimately wonderful dude. 401 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,400 What the fuck is he talking about? 402 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,240 He is undoubtedly one of the greatest storytellers cricket 403 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,720 has ever seen. But harsha ko sabsunte he has 404 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,680 this way of talking that is very easy on the ears and you know 405 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:12,600 aapko rationality feel otithi. You are asking what Pakistan 406 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,320 passionate Pakistan fans genuinely want. 407 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,040 I'll tell you what they want. They want reform in cricket. 408 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,720 They want a more equitable system and not a single Pakistan 409 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,520 fan is probably upset that they won't play India in the T20 410 01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,680 World Cup. That forfeiture is not bothering 411 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,400 anyone. QK Yaha Pyar people are of the 412 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,960 opinion that someone had to stand up to the cricket hegemony 413 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,760 and someone had to kind of, you know, challenge them. 414 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,720 Kabhi Hoyni would challenge and cricket has been politicized 415 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,600 from the get go. Politics, cricket have been 416 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,360 intertwined since the inception of the sport. 417 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,480 UK, the British Empire use cricket as a tool to colonize 418 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,880 and quote UN quote civilize. You know their subjects. 419 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,080 Uske badam nikya kuch NI dekha by South Africa Walapura 420 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,280 apartheid seen they care. Sri Lanka refused to play Israel 421 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,080 at one point, India, Pakistan kept nisi Asad chilti ratiya. 422 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,800 Their politics has been rampant. But now we're at a tipping 423 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,040 point. I have no idea where they go 424 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,560 from here and I understand that there are great implications 425 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,360 over here. Pakistan njek Patak Haley are 426 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,880 the only card they have. They played it. 427 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,600 This will impact the broadcasters and writes Kisnek 428 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,840 Karina, the richest man in India, Mukesh Ambani. 429 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,320 So there's that. This will impact the ICC Who 430 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:25,240 head conquer Amit, Shaka, Londa, Jaysha, Nepo baby and of course 431 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,880 the lesser in doubt cricket boards will be hit the worst. 432 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,040 They are the biggest losers in this. 433 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:30,680 We all are losers in the sense key. 434 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,000 There is sure short money to be made around India, Pakistan 435 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,800 fixtures which we will miss out on. 436 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,520 But if I'm being frank, there is a part of me that is able to 437 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,600 extract some joy from this whole challenging of the cricket 438 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,280 hegemony because there was an inevitability to it, don't you 439 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:50,200 guys think? Guys like in importance of all 440 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,480 you I think up, but may I put counter Dina? 441 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,680 May I counter Dina chaton key ICC tournaments are built on 442 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,440 sporting integrity, competitiveness, consistency and 443 01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,280 fairness. It's a great that statement. 444 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,840 That we put out tangibility 100 percent. 445 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,000 Tangibility Tangibility. Do you want more suggestions to 446 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,920 copy? Can I Can I read out a quote 447 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,560 written to me by a very senior journalist today? 448 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,480 OK. OK, let's take a call. 449 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,440 Who is that? The person you're thinking. 450 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:33,640 Of source compromise. And he says, and I quote. 451 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,960 That statement is more fun than any set of words PG Wodehouse 452 01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:46,360 ever wrote. The irony in it all is that if 453 01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,760 there are four things that the ICC is guilty of not upholding, 454 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:57,000 that is the integrity of the sport competition, consistency 455 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,960 in bold and fairness. Matlab ke kiskisat mazakkar 456 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,680 roya. What the hell are you doing? 457 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,360 That statement is basically, you know, a Cooper Corolly haircut. 458 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,280 That's what it is. It's that bad. 459 01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,160 What's the worst mark? Than asking you to drive safe. 460 01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:21,600 So I think the one metaphor that I think is useful here is Kuch 461 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,680 Dino Pele, India car public data. 462 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,440 And there was a Republic Day parade. 463 01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:31,360 And in the Republic Day parade, there was a Bactrian camel. 464 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,920 Now, I, I didn't know what it was until I saw this, but 465 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,720 apparently Bactrian camel are in endangered species basically. 466 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,560 So there's about 3 or 400 of them. 467 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,960 They're not really used by the Indian Army, but they were 468 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,360 felicitated regardless. A couple of camels and a few God 469 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,760 knows what else, probably mules or something along with them. 470 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,080 They were felicitated for the services to the Indian Army. 471 01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:00,400 Although Bichara camel Wolar kharada in the Republic Day 472 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,480 parade and everyone's clapping like amused at this. 473 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,400 This is essentially what international cricket currently 474 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:10,480 is like. It's a dying sport, OK, And it 475 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:14,440 is, it is endangered. And right now it stands at Adam 476 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,440 Precipice, right? And you we really need to think 477 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,640 about like, what is going to happen to the sport in the 478 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,520 future, right? Like if you look at the Imperial 479 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,720 Cricket Council when it was founded and South Africa along 480 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,640 with England and Australia took the decision to basically have 481 01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,320 it only for the Commonwealth nations, removing, you know, the 482 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,120 US and Ireland. From. 483 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,760 Cricket Argentina, do you know Argentina was in the mix at that 484 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:45,360 time? Yes exactly and that had so many 485 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,240 downstream consequences like these countries are nowhere to 486 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,440 be found in cricket today. I mean the Ireland is this test 487 01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,240 nation but not really right? Ireland cricket is under threat. 488 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,120 I think this could have similar consequences. 489 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,960 The fracturing of world. Cricket yeah, it was hanging by 490 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,600 a thread right? Like I said, even though cricket 491 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,800 and politics have been inter intertwined from the get go, 492 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,880 Kobe hum is tipping point by INE and this is very new. 493 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,200 What the future hold is something I cannot even fathom 494 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,000 or comprehend. Best case scenario may we'll see 495 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,400 some sort of reform and the ICC will evolve from being simply an 496 01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,440 event management company, which is a long short. 497 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,920 It's a pipeline current. CEO is the guy who was the 1st 498 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:31,720 event manager for IPL. OK, current CEO Sanjog bhai Yes, 499 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,520 and he's the guy who gave the immortal code that IPL may India 500 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,280 will win every day. Yeah, India will win every day. 501 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:43,440 Jeet Sir of India, so Pakistan, Congrats. 502 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,280 On which is that it will not be an event management company. 503 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,680 Yeah, well that's the best case scenario. 504 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,720 The worst case scenario is that they will bully Pakistan even 505 01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:56,400 further and fuck them over to unimaginable extents. 506 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,400 Mazagi bhatiya ke in from the playing conditions of the 2020 507 01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,840 4020 World Cup. If you forfeit a game, you only 508 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,680 suffer A drastic net run rate Hit matlab kyapke overall total. 509 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,400 Kendra will be sober. Add Hong, we got playing 510 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,600 conditions deciding if we don't know what they will be for the 511 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,920 2026 ICC World Cup or T20 World Cup and I am imagining that the 512 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,960 ICC about is about to get super creative. 513 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,440 No, no, no, no, no playing conditions has been signed by 514 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,360 all the teams. They just haven't been released. 515 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,200 I am. Just they have had signed. 516 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,760 You can't not sign the playing conditions with a week to go. 517 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,240 They have been signed by all the teams. 518 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:34,200 What the loopholes are? You never know. 14 countries. 519 01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:35,640 You don't have Bangladesh against vote. 520 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:42,880 Yeah. Can a new version come in 100% 521 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,240 but the version has? Been signed and tabled. 522 01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:58,280 Teams decided is conversation, but I would just say that if the 523 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,520 legal grounds don't exist right now, they could exist tomorrow. 524 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,040 QK bhai Hurtcon orayape the richest man in India who has the 525 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,840 broadcasting rights or ugly rights for a package B impact on 526 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,160 S Kibbad. You're looking at 1/4 of a 527 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,120 billion U.S. dollars in loss minimum right? 528 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,920 Saath Tapareo, ICC President Ko, who is the son of Amit Shah, 529 01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,960 home minister of India and these people will be under fire 530 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,280 because ICC Mitho you have to protect the global game and Jay 531 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,840 Shah Cooper pressure. So I imagine that some sort of 532 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,640 financial penalty is definitely going to come into play. 533 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,320 I hope the PCB have done their math. 534 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,800 We would have PESA command Logan here. 535 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,440 Any franchise fees may amongst the PSL teams. 536 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,680 So maybe they're feeling a bit more empowered to make these 537 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:46,320 sort of, you know, statements. I, I was the one voicing the 538 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,040 Champions Trophy. Nikhil Nayare, forfeit the game. 539 01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,840 Screw it. Yeah, it was high time that they 540 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:52,320 did it. Watch the other yoga. 541 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,960 I think so. I, I don't want to credit the 542 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,960 Pakistan board for, you know, putting a lot of thought into 543 01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,200 taking action, but it's very interesting that they decided to 544 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,240 boycott the match. Humbled. 545 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,640 The fact that Mohsin Naqvi knows fuck all about cricket 546 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,400 administration and economy has surely helped him make this 547 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:14,880 decision. Yeah, you, somebody said. 548 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,880 This to me in the text it was, but yeah, yeah. 549 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,720 Okay, they were very coy, I'll tell you how. 550 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,600 And I generally don't like to give the credit to them either. 551 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,080 I'm not a fan of the way Pakistan cricket is run by the 552 01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,439 shadow bandu which pending picture the PCB Manija Pata 553 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,680 press box kinder right? I've got no association with 554 01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,920 them as things currently stand. But the government of Pakistan, 555 01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:43,040 when they issued that directive, they specifically mentioned that 556 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,160 Pakistan will not take the field on 15th February. 557 01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:47,439 So they have every intention of playing India if they face them 558 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:53,840 in the knockouts. Yeah, they saw this as an 559 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,040 opportunistic moment to now further play their politics, 560 01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,720 which suits them, which helps them come across as good people 561 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,880 amongst the public sentiment that the ICC, the way its run is 562 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,560 rigged with. Bangladesh, Pakistan from a 563 01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,680 governmental perspective have lost that thread a little 564 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,240 because them trying to and yeah World Cup semi final theory 565 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,120 they'll perfect. But mujhe. 566 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:21,160 I will love it if they even if it's a final and Pakistan says 567 01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,720 just fuck off. That would be the ballerus 568 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:27,200 ballerus move ever that. Would be so because you know 569 01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:30,840 what will be baller? You know what will be baller to 570 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,319 say no, we'll play. We'll beat you in a tournament 571 01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:37,520 that you think you will win by sure dint of your influence, 572 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,600 We'll fucking beat you. I don't think any sane thinking 573 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,120 board will go to a World Cup final, see that they've reached 574 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,760 a World Cup fund. To reach a World Cup fund you 575 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,520 have to be a certain level good or, you know, flowing through 576 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,720 your luck and all. Once you reach that stage you 577 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,240 have to have the confidence that we can beat anybody and if 578 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,800 you're then given the chance to beat your bully you, there is no 579 01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,280 way you are letting that chance go. 580 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,040 You would take that chance on every day. 581 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,480 They should do it just because, I mean, T20 World Cup doesn't 582 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,400 really matter, like 50. I agree with you. 583 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,120 But yeah, they should do it. If there's a chance, they should 584 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,960 do it. If they are to meet India in a 585 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,280 knockout game in the C20 World Cup and they boycott that. 586 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:24,800 So perto ugly rights cup package next set. 587 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,880 You know how milker passage, let's buy the rights over here, 588 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,600 let's outbid Ambani, right? But what I fear over here is K 589 01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,480 rather than trying to negotiate, which will never happen, right? 590 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:40,360 We know K politics, Kelly Jari they will try to screw Pakistan 591 01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,840 over beyond measure and they can they will find some sort of 592 01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,920 legal loopholes, forfeitures stay in World Cups and ICC 593 01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,120 events and all that stuff. Those were under, you know, 594 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,520 security concerns. Your team is specifically Jaga 595 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,600 Jaga Kehlani Chattiti Yahaba Pakistan is going for a purely 596 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:57,760 political movie. All know it. 597 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,160 We can see that in plain sight. Political cheese. 598 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:05,280 Kelly, Indiana government copies Kia Bangladesh sentiment copies 599 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,080 Pakistan. Pakistan can then move the Court 600 01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,760 of Arbitration for sport now, but Boria Majumdar has already 601 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,800 said, but Boria Majumdar has already said PA 1 Egypt. 602 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:21,040 So I should I believe you was. A legendary action. 603 01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:22,360 Yeah, Bangladesh. Bangladesh. 604 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,600 They did. Not. 605 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,080 Yeah, you're threatening one player and then you're saying 606 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,920 but. India can say unsafe, India can 607 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:38,520 say unsafe, India unsafe. Yeah, Times Now you fulfill the 608 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:47,160 criteria right the. Other thing is this didn't even 609 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,400 start with Fizz, right? It actually started years ago. 610 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,480 You have a board that's consistently doing micro 611 01:11:55,480 --> 01:11:57,400 aggressions technically against other boards. 612 01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:02,240 You're moving games to Guyana that are fixed for your nation. 613 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,240 You're basically bullying everyone in terms of scheduling. 614 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:06,800 You're changing scheduling last minute. 615 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:11,680 I mean, this it's it's a long time coming, right? 616 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:17,000 Like yellow sport. And now they're complaining. 617 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,240 Oh my God, everyone's now reacting. 618 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,400 Why are? You reacting politically to our 619 01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,680 political moves that I. Am I am going to give you MV the 620 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:28,920 headline for this? This started with Tendulkar. 621 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:34,560 I'll tell you how. OK, in 2013, early spring, he 622 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:35,560 said. I'm retiring this year. 623 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,800 Now the schedule that year was India's going to South Africa 624 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,320 for four Tests. Next year was all touring 625 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,040 outside. So New Zealand kaway tour, 626 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,840 England Kaway tour, Australia kaway tour, no home games. 627 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:50,920 And thing is, Tendulkar cannot fucking retire in Auckland or 628 01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:54,200 Cape Town. Great places, aspirational 629 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,720 cricket grounds. Tendulkar is not retiring there. 630 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,280 He's going to retire in one K day. 631 01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,560 I'll be scheduled my time by 10 AM. 632 01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:01,920 Champions Trophy, honey, a beach man. 633 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:06,560 So call the other W Indies go I go by 2013. 634 01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,280 W Indies remember did not have any like forget any money. 635 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:12,640 They were not even paying their players. 636 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,080 There was a pay dispute that was happening. 637 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,200 Dwayne Bravo and he got his full team to the toss and saying 638 01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:19,560 we're not even getting paid anything. 639 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:21,880 They called W Indies that we'll give you money. 640 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,600 Will you come to West Indies? Said yes. 641 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,960 Next call goes to South Africa. South Africa at that time are 642 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,520 looking forward to a four Test series against II said we're 643 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,720 going to play 2 Tests if you're lucky, but we are not playing 644 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,320 four South Africa like so late. How can you say this? 645 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,480 What the fuck? Our schedule has been finalized 646 01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:41,560 given that you're playing four Tests. 647 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:46,320 India saying nothing to him. West Indies come in, play 2 648 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:50,720 Tests, Tendulkar it as India go to South Africa, play 2 Tests. 649 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,200 And that is the first pretty much instance of a board 650 01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,560 bullying another country and telling them you change your 651 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,520 schedule. Nothing doing. 652 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,360 If you want us to come, you change your schedule. 653 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:07,440 The first instance of that was monkey gate when India 654 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,600 threatened to leave and Australia likely don't leave 655 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:14,400 play play the remaining Tests. The 2nd and biggest incident of 656 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,680 that was that end post Endulkar series where India said we are 657 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,360 not going to play Tests with you because our guy has to retire 658 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,520 here. And that was literally BCCI 659 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:27,360 telling a major cricketing nation that we are going to 660 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,200 twist around what can you do about it? 661 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:33,280 And they didn't have an answer. They also left that COVID test 662 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:38,360 in England IPL. Yeah, I am very. 663 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,400 Exactly that was such a divine. That was the last chance. 664 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:45,560 Basketball should do again. Yeah, Bapa Sai, the basketball 665 01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:47,200 should do again. They got Johnny Bairstow. 666 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:49,400 But it's very fascinating that you put this forward. 667 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,360 QK Lokshar of India Pakistan well instances Nikolte and Cisco 668 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,080 court but you know there has been a lot of arm twisting going 669 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,960 on or tub Kiskoni like Abhi subject. 670 01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:01,640 What will happen to the associates and I'm with you. 671 01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,160 The biggest losers in all of this will be the lesser in doubt 672 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,200 cricket boards cricket from the funds that are generated from 673 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,040 the India Pakistan game. There is no doubt about it. 674 01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:21,080 But the big three associates here you actually pretended like 675 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,400 you're growing the game. So I mean, look, the hypocrisy 676 01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:29,520 has been imminent for a while. It is not even news currently. 677 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,760 Or for instance, Pakistan Gagarangle, they grow up. 678 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,520 Yeah, you boycotted or not boycotted. 679 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,920 You basically ended all bilateral cricketing ties with 680 01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:41,480 Pakistan Akhri series, both the RR, Pakistan Anedo, the Junaid 681 01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:44,200 Khan series, right? It's been what, 12 years or 13? 682 01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:45,400 Years. I was at Scotla that day. 683 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:51,160 Yeah well so uske bassi bilateral cricket ties you have 684 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,640 made it a point to isolate Pakistan prayers in the 685 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:58,520 franchise T20 circuit IPL map purposely Do you keep them away? 686 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,520 There are also other leagues like the SA-20 and what not and 687 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,240 other teams within leagues. OK ILT 20 missile desert wipers 688 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,960 Pakistani you are discriminating over there closing pathways for 689 01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,680 Pakistan cricketers. You are the ones who did not 690 01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,840 want to shake hands which was also a can of worms that you 691 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,000 opened. I am not defending. 692 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:27,520 The reactions that came out. County Championship Nottingham 693 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,160 share with Ishan Kishan and then there are other examples. 694 01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,240 Yadi yoga. In fact, the last time I came on 695 01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:38,560 the PCCI pod, we were discussing how Boycott brigade Nikli with 696 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,480 the Asia Cup Kendriya Pakistan India matchup. 697 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:44,720 Boycott Pakistan has forfeited this fixture though point. 698 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:50,760 You don't get to play Pakistan. We would have been like 2.1 less 699 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,400 game packed calendar. Great. 700 01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:59,240 Other than those 11 players, 15 players, nobody is happy because 701 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,120 Sabka Yatu Dhanamarai or Yadu film, you know? 702 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,440 I have the power to reject you the moment you tell me you 703 01:17:09,440 --> 01:17:12,520 rejected me. Yeah, how dare you? 704 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,840 This, this is the thing, this is the main question, right? 705 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,800 So you have. Breaking up with me, I am. 706 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:19,640 Breaking up with you. I am. 707 01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:24,000 Breaking up with you, just like George, like George, Costanza 708 01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,000 said. I. 709 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:26,600 These people. Are breaking up with you? 710 01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:33,360 They took away, they took away the satisfaction of this like 711 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:38,440 bullying, majoritarian masculine government's right to be able to 712 01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:42,200 boycott Pakistan. Mazeki Cheesy, AKA lot of these 713 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,280 people who are, you know, amongst the right wing and are 714 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,240 bigoted Twitter users or whatnot. 715 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,560 Boycott Pakistan. We've gone from we hate you. 716 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,160 We don't want to play you. You are T words and I don't 717 01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:02,680 know, I don't want to say the T word over here, but yeah. 718 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:17,000 Forfeit, boycott, or we've gone from you know we hate you and 719 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,800 don't want to play you to how dare you refuse to play with us 720 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:24,320 or AC Patti ICC. The official channels. 721 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,360 Yeah, look at them. They responded within an hour on 722 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,280 a Sunday. PCB Hamesha new Sunday. 723 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,120 They rest for six days and they work on Sundays. 724 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,280 This is a specialty of the PCBICC my boys. 725 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:40,080 Nick I wapas dafta Rao overtime hours clocker of foreign 726 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,160 response page. Oh, and make it sound like chap 727 01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,400 GPT bullshit where you talk about sporting integrity, 728 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,800 competition, consistency and fairness and how you know 729 01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:51,120 selective participation is bad for the game. 730 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,640 Pelito kabhi yadniya Selective participation give a bad for the 731 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,240 game World test championship myth or India Nikhil T Pakistan 732 01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,120 Co vapi selective participation is not bad for the game. 733 01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:03,000 Daschi is a bolivali and I'm not even that sort of person who 734 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,000 likes the PCB By the way. You have to understand that 735 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,080 Mehta Hut critic unka bodpada. I feel like there are no adults 736 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,760 in the room when there are critic cricket administrators 737 01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,440 trying to run this goddamn sport which is the worst run major 738 01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:18,360 sport across the globe. So the irony of it all is K 739 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,840 abuelo chukita dum digging anything, killing any killing 740 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,560 any abunki sardi kya apne refused the you forfeited the 741 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,400 game. It is really, really ironic. 742 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:38,360 Picture. So coming back to battery and 743 01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:42,720 camels. Great segue. 744 01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,360 Great. Segue. 745 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:52,640 Wow, I need to see what this. You got, you got to watch the 746 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,560 video. You got to watch the video, OK? 747 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,640 So you. Have to watch this by the way, 748 01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:57,400 like the regular. Camera. 749 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:04,120 So they are, they look different, huh? 750 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:08,240 They're kind of, I think, found in the Mongolian desert areas 751 01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:11,920 rather than India, and they're in a very small location in 752 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,320 India. They're an endangered species. 753 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:33,760 So I just. Has anyone? 754 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:39,480 Seen the fucking watch in which you've got Anand Ambani in the 755 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:43,120 watch? Yeah, yeah, that's Jacob and Co. 756 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,000 Elephant Khichdi 2 actual reporters by the way. 757 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,160 Yeah. I don't think Rahul Kamal is an 758 01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:59,720 actual reporter but. Reporter. 759 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:12,200 Yeah, but. Why? 760 01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,680 Why now? Very cute dog. 761 01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:19,000 Do you say it's a pedigree? What the fuck man? 762 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:27,560 That is, that is. Yeah, Mary, different. 763 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,200 Sorry. Let me just tell the story real 764 01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,000 quick. How she connected to Bactrian 765 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,360 camels. Very weird tangent, but what 766 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,800 Peter Ke adds any of the this kinder who up could discourage 767 01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:40,320 Karte Janwar Khan? She was with me, we were going 768 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,720 somewhere. Or barasa billboard aya this E 769 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,520 chotasa piglet or E chotasa papita or lika vata. 770 01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:49,480 You eat one, but you don't eat the other. 771 01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:51,760 Something along those lines. And she was like, she loved her 772 01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,760 meat. She was like, I'd fucking eat 773 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,520 that dog, right? Like. 774 01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,040 Oh wow, I did not expect this story to go there. 775 01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:59,880 Yeah, I know. It got bit dark, didn't it? 776 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:08,560 I have a friend who's who's a huge carnivore and I think once 777 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,320 she saw rabbits around and you're like, Oh my God, they're 778 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,160 so cute. And she's like, Oh my God, Yum. 779 01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:17,120 Yeah, my nephew is a big seafood kid. 780 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,320 He absolutely loves seafood. And I watched that Nat Geo stuff 781 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,960 with him, right. Animal ski videos. 782 01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,440 They face, this is a 910 year old and there's this giant squid 783 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:27,440 that we're looking at and he's like Ramu. 784 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,280 I feel like eating that. I was like, all right, kid, so 785 01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:33,280 you don't track Mitchell Room, I'm calling it. 786 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:40,960 They put, OK, So even in the immediate aftermath now we, we 787 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,280 are here, we don't know what's going to happen tomorrow. 788 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,560 Although I heard India U.S. trade deal has been signed. 789 01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,920 So some deflection is happening there. 790 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:58,000 Do you think that this this management has even has the DNA 791 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,040 to be able to sort any of this out? 792 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,240 We even begin to negotiate any of this, even if not aftermath 793 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:10,080 in the future. There's so much money at stake. 794 01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:38,880 There is so much money at stake. No. 795 01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:45,680 I think BCCI is in technically between, but I know what you're 796 01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,760 saying. There's too much money at stake, 797 01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:51,240 but politically there's also a lot at stake. 798 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:55,760 They can't be. They will not propose a middle 799 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,880 of the road solution. They so they have to do 800 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:09,240 something to. I mean I. 801 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,680 What happens is when you when you no longer have the money 802 01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,080 dominance, the bully pulpit of money to be able to play that 803 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,200 you lose your significance also in the game to some degree. 804 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:36,200 OK, And The thing is, it's not that it's going to have a direct 805 01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:41,080 outcome right away, but it's going to make themselves. 806 01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:44,600 Maybe you know, think about it a little bit. 807 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:46,160 Or is. That too much to ask. 808 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,240 I think they're just going to run Pakistan cricket into the 809 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,240 ground. It's what can come. 810 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,960 Moody Yeah, they will look for loopholes and, you know, create 811 01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,960 legal grounds to do that and that's what I fear because as 812 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,840 much as we can appreciate that someone is, you know, stood up 813 01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,760 to the hegemony and Pakistan did have leverage. 814 01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,960 Ek chopata Thabo kelai or hum sochite Kabila Kabila killing 815 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:07,080 it. There was an inevitability to 816 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,040 it. But now what will happen from 817 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:10,760 here? Broadcasters kabhi pesa loose 818 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:14,640 ore vaaghi banaling AR they'll pivot towards franchise T 20s 819 01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,400 IPL Ki writes Karidling. It was halted ojenge ugly Joe 820 01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,880 writes ka cycle Eva pick anybody hit lucky do the likes of 821 01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:26,880 Zimbabwe, Ireland, Afghanistan, I don't know man, the West 822 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,640 Indies, do they even survive this? 823 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,600 Pakistan meter halki pulki cricket economy henna through 824 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,600 the PSL. They might just just survive 825 01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,360 this. India is the least impacted on 826 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:40,000 Koto Faratni Parnanke Samantha Char Balti and Char Balti. 827 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,600 Name of the quarter of the Samandar nikali though, right? 828 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:43,960 Or whatever. I don't know what the exact 829 01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,440 numbers are. They might not care, but the 830 01:25:46,440 --> 01:25:48,680 international sport is at risk now. 831 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,880 It is literally hanging by a thread and the implications 832 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,000 could be fatal. Pakistan, you know, they 833 01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:58,000 probably thought that they can defeat the three associate 834 01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,680 nations and progress to the Super 8 stage. 835 01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:03,600 But net run rate there one washout away from exiting the 836 01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,520 tournament, right and or one loss away from exiting the 837 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,120 tournament. So it's interesting that they've 838 01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,600 gone for this power move right now. 839 01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:14,840 Or weird, but they've chosen that one point where they 840 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,120 weren't even involved sub politics. 841 01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:25,640 I. Think. 842 01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,600 Imagine being that. The Bangladesh. 843 01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,760 Has united Bangladesh and Pakistan over something? 844 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:41,280 How incompetent and stupid. Times Now I think that was his 845 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:49,040 name Madhav Das G. So boy, don't you think it's 846 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,160 it's hypocrisy that Bangladesh played me and you're saying put 847 01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,560 your team again. I was like in my mind, yeah on 848 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,680 your part right? Like how the fuck do you expect 849 01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,760 the entire team to come just make Mustafizur Jodha or 850 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:06,680 Bangladesh like logic really goes. 851 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:11,360 To you know, and the fans, yard fans also the fans, the players 852 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:15,640 will be in some security. But I mean, Joe, if you follow 853 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,760 the news, Joe Delhi Orata like why? 854 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,560 I mean, they would do it anywhere Bangladesh is playing 855 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,040 or their fans are so. I mean, here's the question, 856 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,120 right? It's not. 857 01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,480 We know it's not about Bangladesh because if this was 858 01:27:28,480 --> 01:27:31,080 lit in DAS, this would not be the case. 859 01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,960 And similarly if it wasn't Shahrukh Khan who had hired the. 860 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,440 The face is played for Chennai. He's played for Mumbai. 861 01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,640 If I'm not wrong ABBR it was a quite quite the bidding war 862 01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,880 right between Delhi, Chennai and KKR. 863 01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,680 Magar ababi self create issue Ki abab kero Ki bhaiya. 864 01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:52,840 Politically charged responses to the reactions fucked Yeah Puri 865 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,600 region, key politics. They're all like literally 866 01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,720 volatile as hell and none of us enjoy that pit. 867 01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,600 But that's the reality that we live in, right? 868 01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,520 Couldn't you be more coy? Evil you not to evil only Ki 869 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:10,520 bitter 3 KTR World Cup. Why did you even allow him in 870 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,280 the? Does don't allow register, just 871 01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:15,680 say that okay, we are not taking, we will not do the 872 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:21,080 insulting thing of inviting you to our house and then saying 873 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:26,880 Mata. Sorry boss, once he's in the 874 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,920 auction, why is any team responsible? 875 01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:40,920 Yeah, like no, that's a separate thing, discrimination and today 876 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,600 Pakistan wouldn't have forfeited the game. 877 01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:46,240 IK will trickle down effect to everything spirals after the 878 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,160 fizz is sacked by KKR. But you know, there are other 879 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:54,160 fascinating things that play over here is K India Jai. 880 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:58,640 They have now made this a habit. They are routinely opening 881 01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,160 political cans of firms and then they are criticizing other 882 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,400 people of weaponizing the sport. Atul vasan naka Times Now 883 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:08,040 cricket is weaponized. I was like, yeah, Atul is 884 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,920 correct. Who is weaponizing the sport? 885 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:15,320 Kashmir cricket field. I was like, how is that 886 01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,800 relevant? And he was like, no, someone 887 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,720 from Pakistan said this. I was like, look, now who's 888 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:22,280 indulging in what about? What about indulgement? 889 01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:26,880 And I felt like I've lost a few brain cells interacting with 890 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:31,880 those folks. But I suppose now I'm that guy. 891 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:55,560 IPL car Lina Dina ICC cricket Selena Dina Pakistan cancel It 892 01:29:55,560 --> 01:30:08,920 doesn't make fucking sense. Boundaries checker limits. 893 01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:33,080 Australian border. English border. 894 01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:36,000 South African border. Right. 895 01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:49,280 Francis, Ferdinand. There will be on the left the 896 01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:53,640 Nihil NHS Go. Only is chote say it's a shyat 897 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:58,360 kuch dhanka dhanka but kuch ex resolution just a nickel. 898 01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:03,160 The one thing that might happen is over the next few couple of 899 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:04,720 years, Pakistan will bear the brunt. 900 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:08,560 But a lot of these countries, what they might do this. 901 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:09,960 South Africa is an example, right? 902 01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,320 Their entire league that that is making them money. 903 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,720 That league is financed by the IPL franchises. 904 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:18,680 Essentially what can happen is it and it's just a possibility, 905 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,720 right? Speculation is the because in 906 01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:27,800 the BCCI ecosystem operates on pure hubris, just pure delusion 907 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,000 and hubris. They are strengthening all these 908 01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:35,920 nations and what they don't realise that while strengthening 909 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,880 a South Africa franchise and England car franchise tomorrow, 910 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:45,200 Australia car franchise, Todd Greenberg, me Bolia, they are 911 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,120 making sure that these girls are strong enough. 912 01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:50,520 One day they are going to just say go fuck yourself. 913 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,200 We don't need. You. 914 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,880 That day will be the cricket. That day, cricket will turn 915 01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,880 against BCC. Interesting thing is I actually 916 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,960 firmly believe India. Pakistan, yeah Bangladesh jobio 917 01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,240 authoritarian authoritarianism is so rampant over here. 918 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,560 Pakistan be. If Pakistan was contributing 919 01:32:08,560 --> 01:32:11,680 $0.80 to every dollar made in cricket, perhaps the PCB would 920 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,440 have had similar stances. Wobi buli karte agaram ko moka 921 01:32:14,440 --> 01:32:19,480 milta. And India flexes his muscle 922 01:32:19,480 --> 01:32:23,160 because you know, of course they are contributing 4/5 of the 923 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:24,760 amount to cricket or pirbo kathakam. 924 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,120 Late to set of Charlie's percent premium but rather than 925 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:29,200 bullying, don't you have a responsibility to think of the 926 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,400 greater good of the game or up International cricket 927 01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,560 Commonwealth sport Pele yeah dasbara mulkachi cricket 928 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:43,800 reasonable kasam Ki our team and and it really is harrowing in 929 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:56,400 plain sight up right. So how is this a sustainable 930 01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,320 model? This is not good for the sport. 931 01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,640 No one's thinking about the overall health of international 932 01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,760 cricket UK franchise T 20s is a different ball game. 933 01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:12,240 Perhaps we're headed there. You know, the the Hindutva 934 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:17,280 project has essentially been Kaise hum Hindu kuwagi badai, 935 01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:19,640 right? Basically, how do we show that 936 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:24,040 we are first of all leading all of the Hindus and that what 937 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,640 we're doing is really good for this country? 938 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:30,200 Now the problem is like, you walk outside this filth on the 939 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,800 side of the road, you take in a breath of air and it's full of 940 01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:37,520 pollution. You go to buy something and it's 941 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,440 really freaking expensive, right? 942 01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:45,520 So cricket is the only arena where they can actually show 943 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,000 wins, right? This is why they haven't they 944 01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,160 haven't bothered to expand the game because it could mean a 945 01:33:51,160 --> 01:33:55,000 loss of India's hegemony. They haven't bothered to expand 946 01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:59,360 the game or increase the amount of money given to everybody else 947 01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,920 to all of the associate nations cuz it could mean they come and 948 01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,240 challenge that hegemony. Specifically USA. 949 01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,280 They're really scared about USA entering cricket. 950 01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:15,280 I mean isn't this just lipstick on a pig on the Hindutva agenda? 951 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,240 Like cricket is functioning as that. 952 01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,760 Also, I completely understand lynching of minorities is bad. 953 01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,320 We all feel that way. We're all empathetic, educated 954 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:29,000 people sitting over here who do not like to divide on the basis 955 01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,840 of nationality or religion. I know that all of us are not 956 01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,960 those people. Mujibati Gandhi bata jabiqi 957 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,960 minority lynch otiya. If the Hindus are being lynched 958 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,680 in Bangladesh, if Amadis and Christians and Hindus are being 959 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,680 lynched in Pakistan or if Muslims are being lynched in 960 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,800 India, this is all bad. But EKU Ek kulseni aura yeah 961 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,360 bohdir sayora. This is not news. 962 01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:49,720 This has been happening for a while. 963 01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:53,160 Or Dusri Baati AK which subcontinent country can boast a 964 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,560 fantastic treatment of minorities record over? 965 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:59,920 Here also can I say this, A country that India and Pakistan 966 01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:03,320 are jointly supporting and are directly responsible for raising 967 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:05,920 that country's level is Afghanistan. 968 01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:08,440 Guess who is the Afghan government right now? 969 01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,240 Yep, the most tolerant regime in the world. 970 01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:14,800 Guess who are India's only friends in the region? 971 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:20,320 Fucking terrorists are. Yeah, I swear to God, Ajib and 972 01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,000 they had come over Abhi last year. 973 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,080 They they had got a state visit to India last year, they had 974 01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,680 come over. A lot of people may not know 975 01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:31,600 this but and my God I get jailed for this but I'll say this. 976 01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,400 Up. The Talibans, Yeah, the Talibans 977 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,520 spiritual home is the urban, which is in UP. 978 01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,680 Yes, Sarich is AUP. Urdu up. 979 01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:46,320 Sarichekhane up. Richa. 980 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:50,480 UP Richa Aaj Akar, Choka Mari. She is like going all full 981 01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,720 Abhishek Sharma on this BCCI pod. 982 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:57,640 She is also from UP Bakery and Camels and whatnot. 983 01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,800 Yaar AAP tubesha Nagar AAP galawat khario or Shami tabario. 984 01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,920 There is no way you are walking out with the same mind As a big 985 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:10,120 fan of both. AAP Lucknow kakhana kanpur 986 01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:14,000 kakhana subasham daboge. At some point you will fart, 987 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:19,080 hence you be. We have Moradabad. 988 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:22,920 We have or we. Can I tell the story We play 989 01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,920 went to play CBSE clusters football tournament in Meerut. 990 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:33,480 My school was in Noida and TKR football coach, officer whatever 991 01:36:33,480 --> 01:36:34,680 you're playing with a bit of passion. 992 01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:38,600 We legit heard, I swear on everything I know the coach tell 993 01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:42,880 the team he was picking a substitution and these were his 994 01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:48,600 words tongue toward the and we were like, bro, and we were 995 01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:52,080 about 15-16 years old, like 9 this. 996 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,160 No, this though, we are not that brave. 997 01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,880 And literally five of us looked at our coach. 998 01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,520 We're like a substitute. We want to be out of this 999 01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:07,360 because Meerut is so UP is wild Wild West UP is legitimately 1000 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:12,000 wild Wild West. Meerut also fully fully in the 1001 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,120 zone. Alabama by Texas name. 1002 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,080 Rednecks Rednecks of India live in. 1003 01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,840 UK would tweet paratha. The ICC have missed a great 1004 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,040 opportunity to replace Bangladesh with India A Yeah, 1005 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,440 India B Bulky didn't even say India A in this tournament and 1006 01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:30,760 that would have increased fanfare and competition. 1007 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:41,480 Saudi team in. India, yeah, yeah. 1008 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:49,680 That evolutionary idea is name every team for put your India 1009 01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,720 AB, name them after cities and have the games in the cities. 1010 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:55,720 It's a revolutionary idea. No one has thought of this 1011 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,000 before. City based team. 1012 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,800 And let the World Cup be the World Cup so that I can enjoy in 1013 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,600 peace without any BS. I mean I mean I've seen some 1014 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:16,160 harrowing things on Twitter. Meri galtiya mene keriya bike is 1015 01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,880 Sara Variska article parlo. Very nuanced, paints a full 1016 01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:23,800 picture, covers all angles. It's not even an op-ed, it is a 1017 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:27,240 fucking information piece which she just ends by saying that 1018 01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,120 there is no coincidence that one nation gets their way both 1019 01:38:31,120 --> 01:38:32,040 times. That is it. 1020 01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:37,080 Baki Sabko chose their favor. Nuance has Kander if you go by 1021 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:41,120 the book to Botezi right? Like security assessment, Biki 1022 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:45,200 voting, biki 14, two biki procedures follow. 1023 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:53,920 Poor Sara Varis gets to face such vitriol online, who is 1024 01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:57,440 literally the undisputed, bona fide queen of cricket media. 1025 01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,200 ESPN, Cricinfo veteran. Someone who has always been 1026 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,000 very, very blunt, very honest. She's eloquent. 1027 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,720 She marries excellence with integrity. 1028 01:39:07,480 --> 01:39:17,320 Instagram. Caption That is their extent of 1029 01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:22,800 literature, YouTube streamers, Instagram captions. 1030 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,680 And I'm not trying to shame people who don't read. 1031 01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,440 It's OK to not read. But the fact that you look at a 1032 01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:35,200 Sara virus and a Sharda Sara virus suffered because her name 1033 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:39,360 is Sara virus, right? And she's a woman and her name 1034 01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:42,440 is Sara virus. So double Jeopardy Khatam Utari, 1035 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,040 the reason they went after Sharda and they were questioning 1036 01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:55,000 who like there was a set of, you know, countrywide protests in 1037 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,120 early 2020 when Ram Guha also was arrested from the streets of 1038 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:01,560 Bangalore. The trolls were asking who is 1039 01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:05,360 Ram Guha? New York Times published a piece 1040 01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:07,320 saying how can you arrest Ram Guha? 1041 01:40:07,320 --> 01:40:12,280 And a lot of people said by SAP tumnis reisen defect Ki tum 1042 01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,640 pretend karlo Ki hamani Pata. And the more you pretend, the 1043 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,200 more it gets spoken about. Because actually, sabka Pata. 1044 01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:23,760 It comes from that key. They are never going to read, so 1045 01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,520 they are not critiquing the piece, neither are they 1046 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:29,040 critiquing the logic. And that's the writer of the 1047 01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,240 piece. They just go by the headline 1048 01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,240 key. Yeah, hai mere biases key 1049 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,240 against it. So now I'm going to aim my gun 1050 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:40,080 at you. Yeah, with the seena Sir Bias 1051 01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:44,280 toger apne saval. Yeah, if anyone and I'm sure you 1052 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,400 guys have followed my work, I love the sport. 1053 01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,680 If anyone plays good cricket, I will appreciate it. 1054 01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,240 I loved your piece on Virat as well. 1055 01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:52,720 Sarthak for instance. Right, like Joshi cricket 1056 01:40:53,080 --> 01:41:09,040 sports, he had said. When it seems. 1057 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:19,000 It spins. Can you check you seen a comment 1058 01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:20,480 together? What do you know about spin? 1059 01:41:20,920 --> 01:41:23,240 Shame. No shame, do you? 1060 01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:24,000 How? Shame works. 1061 01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:26,840 Shame, do you? Know how spin works? 1062 01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,880 Yes, sorry. Yeah, I don't think we are far 1063 01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:35,680 from a day, I swear to I I mean, OK, as an Indian on the social 1064 01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,360 media, I see a lot of Indian cricket troll accounts. 1065 01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,120 I'm sure Behram you see it from a Pakistani context. 1066 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,960 I don't think we are fraud from a day when a lot of these trolls 1067 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:52,120 because someone might disagree they will say key actually such 1068 01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:55,320 an overrated Akram overrated Anwar overrated. 1069 01:41:57,200 --> 01:42:02,200 Look dude I saw somebody says Zinedine Zidane was overrated. 1070 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,480 I was like dhai usne same World Cup final man Panenkar headbutt 1071 01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:17,600 Dono Mahre team Champions League, Champions League. 1072 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:27,080 Pakistan irrelevant. It's not even a rivalry. 1073 01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:33,760 Even if the India Pakistan game is 1 sided, recent times have 1074 01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,720 taught us that it will remain a cash cow. 1075 01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:39,400 People confused that financial billing and marketability has 1076 01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,240 nothing to do with the actual contest on the field. 1077 01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:44,280 Indians will TuneIn always to watch their team beat Pakistan. 1078 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,880 Pakistanis will TuneIn always to with hopes that they might beat 1079 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:52,040 India this time ups and. Downs a closer A closer rivalry 1080 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:53,800 is actually Sri Lanka, Bangladesh now. 1081 01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,360 They've robbed us of the fucking. 1082 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:14,720 I. Don't like to other people 1083 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:22,720 Global Citizen but by Pakistan is apparently obsessed with II, 1084 01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:24,960 right? Either corn obsessed. 1085 01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:31,120 Hey, please. We have driven bikes across your 1086 01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,240 country. We have put Imran Khan on an 1087 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:38,200 auto and yeah, there is a there is a scene. 1088 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:40,560 So I haven't got to run there. I've been just given clips. 1089 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,440 So apparently the main protagonist goes and he eats 1090 01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:45,760 food there and he starts crying. I saw that. 1091 01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:51,200 Apparently the insinuation is that he he's a Hindu who's gone 1092 01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:55,040 there and he's having beef. So somebody. 1093 01:43:57,040 --> 01:44:05,960 I was that guy somebody. Maybe it was you, but I saw. 1094 01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:11,320 That wasn't me. That is exactly how you do not 1095 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,720 blow your cover, by making it apparent. 1096 01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:20,280 I didn't bother watching the movie. 1097 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:24,160 I think both countries are equally obsessed with each 1098 01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,040 other. It's the thing that you don't 1099 01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:29,240 want to live without each other, but publicly you want to say 1100 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:32,880 that you hate each other. I'm not trying to defend 1101 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:37,000 Pakistan over here. Pakistani state is at fault in 1102 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,440 many different ways as well. I have never defended them and 1103 01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:45,280 never kept them. So Indian platform or comment 1104 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:50,880 section bharja TE galio say or boycott Ki tamkia channel K jobi 1105 01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,280 owner. When I have Indian people on my 1106 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,200 platforms in Pakistan, there's none of that crap. 1107 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:04,000 So just the sheer number, it doesn't matter key near equally, 1108 01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:07,080 but just because the sheer numbers of Indians is much, it's 1109 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,680 a clear there's no comparison, no comparison. 1110 01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:10,600 I think. Yeah, I think. 1111 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,240 There's no comparison that Indian because. 1112 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:21,840 They tried to take a minute and troll it in a way. 1113 01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:26,840 I mean, I don't know. And also can I? 1114 01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:32,320 Draw more social parallel here. So I'm sorry if I'm stepping on 1115 01:45:32,320 --> 01:45:36,680 some very Dukti rug here. An average, an Indian has been 1116 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:41,360 fed the rhetoric that Pakistan is an enemy state, not that 1117 01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,320 Pakistan state ke sathamari problem. 1118 01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:47,240 We have been fed the rhetoric keep Pakistan desh ke sathamari 1119 01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:50,880 Ghoshmani, which is you? Something we had discussed last 1120 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,120 time you were on the part, which is something I have a lot of 1121 01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:57,280 problem with because the average Joe in Pakistani, in Pakistan is 1122 01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,320 not something we have a problem with and we should never have a 1123 01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:00,880 problem with because they are random people. 1124 01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:03,280 We are random people. That's what I don't understand. 1125 01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,320 Agar Ki Pakistani Kathakkan Indian states a problem where 1126 01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:10,120 Indian Kathakkan Pakistani states a problem problem. 1127 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,920 I don't like nation states was a total New Zealand or Ireland for 1128 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,280 Sandesh Dunia Kendra. And now the way Australia 1129 01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:20,080 responded to the Bondi incident. I feel like they've also turned 1130 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,840 a page over here. Massive respect to them. 1131 01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,920 They could have gone several different ways. 1132 01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,320 They could have taken the path of hate and division Megarvoto 1133 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,360 love and unity. And I was surprised man, 1134 01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:32,240 honestly. So that was really refreshing to 1135 01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:33,640 see. But point is that nation states 1136 01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:36,760 so much of asini Basan human human connection. 1137 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,000 Ultimately we want a roof over our head. 1138 01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:42,280 We want food at the table and and very few of us, I suppose 1139 01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:46,840 now are aware enough socially aware or politically aware or 1140 01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,960 just generally educated enough to realize and read between the 1141 01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:54,960 lines. Yeah, governments Karthikeyan 1142 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:58,120 narrative beats. OK, hum pro sports while they 1143 01:46:58,120 --> 01:47:00,960 are total cricket key baat karte karte and the quick cricketer 1144 01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,280 politics. Then we give our views. 1145 01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,600 But I actually genuinely thought that for a minute in between we 1146 01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,480 were covering Indian cricket better than anyone in India. 1147 01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:15,960 Sports yariya sports taka patani sare kisam kisam. 1148 01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:19,520 Obviously they're good people in India covering cricket but eko 1149 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:22,520 mass product ke Saab say I thought ke hamare pasab EB 1150 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:26,000 marketer TK leili koeni amne kabhiya position is trani kyata 1151 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,960 baki longki dukane bandogi UK. They had entirely hedged their 1152 01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,680 bets on the Indian market. But Yaar, when you kill the 1153 01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,680 human to human connection, you are emphasizing to your 1154 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,080 countrymen all Pakistanis are bad. 1155 01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,880 Yapayar, Growing up, I've never been told all Indians are bad. 1156 01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:46,200 So yeah, but. Pointing out that we've been for 1157 01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,320 decades been fact that rhetoric because in our movies and 1158 01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:54,160 everything you don't show like which is why all of us I can 1159 01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:55,960 speak for I'm sure all of us in this panel. 1160 01:47:56,320 --> 01:48:01,880 We are big fans of Razi the movie and that's the reason QT 1161 01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:05,440 of Alia Bhatt goes over when Sehmat goes. 1162 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:11,200 They show Sehmat's in laws as normal people. 1163 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:15,600 They listen to jazz, they are respectful, they treat her like 1164 01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,600 their daughter, like you would expect a good Indian family to. 1165 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:24,480 Maybe not jazz because but whatever they they want to 1166 01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:27,120 listen to. And that is one of the rare 1167 01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:32,720 movies man where you show Pakistan and Pakistan is as not 1168 01:48:32,720 --> 01:48:35,800 even you can overcorrect on the normalness right? 1169 01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,920 Polite, polite to a fault. This was like no they are we are 1170 01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:44,680 low heartbeat random normal people which is why we are such 1171 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:48,000 big fans here. Hardeshka Average Joe is a 1172 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,960 normal person or it is not an India Pakistan thing only. 1173 01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,240 It's true for Sri Lanka, true for fucking Bangladesh, true for 1174 01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:57,440 New Zealand as well. Along those lines, every radical 1175 01:48:57,440 --> 01:48:59,680 is the same. The Hindu nationalist say 1176 01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:04,040 Hindutva Vale in mayor Haram with Farakhani. 1177 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,960 We exact cheeser but agenda different. 1178 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:12,600 Trump follow Supremacists are always going to be supremacists 1179 01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:16,440 in case you had causes for religion. 1180 01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:17,800 Cause. Exact same. 1181 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:20,480 And a lot of people are blindsided by, you know, this 1182 01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:23,800 propaganda and what's dangerous. I haven't watched that fucking 1183 01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:40,760 movie either. From what I have been told, 1184 01:49:42,480 --> 01:49:47,480 propaganda subtler, nuanced or that is now really fucking 1185 01:49:47,480 --> 01:49:49,440 dangerous. At least when you can easily 1186 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:52,960 tell its propaganda work propaganda. 1187 01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:55,080 And I'm like are you kidding me? Do you understand what 1188 01:49:55,080 --> 01:49:58,800 propaganda means? It does not mean entirely fake 1189 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,040 news. It means twisting stories to 1190 01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,880 serve your own purpose. And I do fear that you get the 1191 01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:08,320 high budget films are by Aditya Dharthu Pagal whoever on whoever 1192 01:50:08,480 --> 01:50:12,720 career Banali. Mary ancestor is Uri is not a 1193 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:16,240 bad film. Actually, Uri is not a bad film. 1194 01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:17,800 So I have watched that film. Right. 1195 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:18,880 But I'll tell you what I did watch. 1196 01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,760 He has cracked that formula where he his movies look very 1197 01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:27,800 slick and they'll have nice soundtrack and everything but of 1198 01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,400 like the messaging is clear. Like Dorander will literally 1199 01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,680 dialogue head because it's set in 2000s. 1200 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:36,760 Marfan's character at one point is saying future makes Sarkar. 1201 01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,800 Can I say very? Funny about that. 1202 01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:44,440 You will wait for a future Sarkar basically. 1203 01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:46,840 No, no, no. Can I say something very funny? 1204 01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,080 So he says this during the Kandahar attack, right? 1205 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,040 99 New Year's Dewala Kandahar hijacking. 1206 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:57,720 Ajit Doval was also in NSA when the parliament attacks happened. 1207 01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:00,800 Ajit Doval was in NSA when a shutdown attack happened. 1208 01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:05,240 Ajit Doval was in NSA when the Mumbai blast happened. 1209 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:14,680 And so my point is Chief of 2826 Eleven. 1210 01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:18,480 So the fuck are you doing? You are chief of National 1211 01:51:18,480 --> 01:51:24,400 Security Agency. Yeah, Jabbi, unfortunate 1212 01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,400 incidents, no one feels happy menace. 1213 01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,280 When I'm moving with the Karthik, it looks celebrate 1214 01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:33,880 Mumbai attacks with a Yeah, we were also devastated over here. 1215 01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,320 No one enjoys that could be religious intolerance, 1216 01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:43,800 nationalistic violence. So it is always wrong but yaara 1217 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,800 movie a banaro jasna dekharo ke Lok celebrate career or Patel 1218 01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:50,560 Maine khalti SE EKS Ki movie dekhiya tharki Mein bewa kufuna. 1219 01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:55,480 I have my ancestry from Kashmir Baramullah men in Netflix cola 1220 01:51:55,480 --> 01:52:01,920 men a share a Johnson mere ancestors A manic holi or Ek dum 1221 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:05,480 SE kuch huye movie Kendra menga. Fuck this is a propaganda movie 1222 01:52:05,480 --> 01:52:06,760 isn't it? Or wobi subtle. 1223 01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:11,600 It is, I haven't watched it. Yeah, it's not entirely TK story 1224 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,760 this night they go if there are any any Kashmiri pundits out 1225 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:19,040 there who have faced some sort of bigotry and persecution, I 1226 01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:22,000 stand with them. You can met persecution. 1227 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:29,560 But what I will say is I'm really glad my ancestors moved. 1228 01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:31,160 I don't want to fucking live there. 1229 01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:54,320 You don't want to. Stay. 1230 01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:40,360 Limited Twitter. Facebook or realization? 1231 01:53:50,640 --> 01:54:12,680 Political Pakistan. But Pakistan has gone through 1232 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:16,240 the regime, okay. Used as a tool. 1233 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:22,600 Just going through it. Supremacist nationalistic Kisam 1234 01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,920 Kiwo school of thought a Pakistan kidney are we've 1235 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,920 incurred so many loss of you know, losses of civilians and 1236 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:31,920 loss of life because we were embroiled in this War on Terror, 1237 01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,200 right Usman Nuksantho Pakistan Kazada if anything hum to so 1238 01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:39,400 much the terrorism downside. I lived in this city growing up 1239 01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:44,680 as a teenager up until the age of 17 when I left for Canada or 1240 01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:56,160 I cannot fathom that now shit by if anything, at least you know 1241 01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,120 progressive Pakistanis know what it feels like. 1242 01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:02,600 I'm not going to say the way Indians kind of on mass treat 1243 01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,720 Pakistanis, Pakistanis on mass treat of guns. 1244 01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:09,440 Same attitude? Exact same attitude or a? 1245 01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:13,080 Global epidemic. Yeah, it absolutely is. 1246 01:55:13,280 --> 01:55:18,600 Or you know, obviously we are at that sort of point where kijo 1247 01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,800 average bigot ko E platform milgia and the mob is always 1248 01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:25,000 louder. I always say this K if I am 1249 01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:29,400 speaking against a certain trait or a certain state. 1250 01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:32,800 I'm bandeka thodi ragadayar, I'm mandado shed meri tarakao. 1251 01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:34,640 Anyone who you know vibes with me. 1252 01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:37,200 My energy is my person. They they are a part of my 1253 01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:38,760 tribe. It actually doesn't matter. 1254 01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:42,320 Kya aapka kya mazabe aapki kya nationality kya skin color kya 1255 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,800 race by yechi kya farak partame maybe I have also had the 1256 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,880 privilege of living abroad in Canada for 11 years. 1257 01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:50,840 But Maya akar dekhton jolok maybe Gaye or mere he social 1258 01:55:50,840 --> 01:55:55,000 circle methe voki radicalized tonio gayar hai masla. 1259 01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:59,920 Pakistan is probably responsible for it but there is this active 1260 01:55:59,920 --> 01:56:03,280 effort to move past that. Whereas India, I feel, are so 1261 01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,480 embroiled in the, you know, Modi regime. 1262 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,920 Get this as this. Is bound to backfire at some 1263 01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:19,360 point also. So many years after the post. 1264 01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:21,600 No, no, sorry. Go ahead. 1265 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:22,880 Sorry. No, I'm going to get Abhi. 1266 01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:53,480 Or each person to themselves. Arun Dhati And that is the first 1267 01:56:53,480 --> 01:57:06,840 time I even learned about Adivasis and Dalits irrigation 1268 01:57:06,840 --> 01:57:12,240 in this country as well. Minority, underprivileged 1269 01:57:12,920 --> 01:57:17,280 Pakistan, Hindu friends as well, right? 1270 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:23,240 Yeah, main theme. And if you are a minority, you 1271 01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,280 need to have privilege. For now you're screwed. 1272 01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:28,040 Or Pakistan, unfortunately, now I might get arrested for this 1273 01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:29,520 MO. These can have privilege, and 1274 01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:33,400 they're still. Fucked I its, its a group. 1275 01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:36,240 I think it's a, it's not just a subcontinent phenomena, it's a 1276 01:57:36,240 --> 01:57:38,400 global phenomena. It's the same with African 1277 01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:40,840 American people in in the USA right now. 1278 01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,640 You're seeing it with Hispanic people in the USA with the ICE 1279 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,480 stuff. If you're privileged and you 1280 01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:48,600 have enough, you know you have a good enough life, then you will 1281 01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,240 not be caught maybe, but you. Have to be. 1282 01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:58,280 You have to be a Romeo. Hey, but I I also think that 1283 01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,320 this we were discussing in other ports as well. 1284 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:10,360 Socially, we have reached a point gap alpha male and I am 1285 01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:12,680 not dependent. I don't need friends, I don't 1286 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:16,200 need allies. I am once I'm big, I am big. 1287 01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,200 And this pretense that I've got here on my own. 1288 01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,920 But even if that's not the pretense, now that I'm here, I 1289 01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,040 don't need anyone else. I think socially is also, you 1290 01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:26,920 see all the tech biggest leaders. 1291 01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:29,080 I was talking about social network in the previous world. 1292 01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,440 Social network was not a lesson on how Zuckerberg built 1293 01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:35,400 Facebook. It was a movie about how 1294 01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,840 Zuckerberg had zero friends. His girlfriend left him. 1295 01:58:39,360 --> 01:58:41,720 His closest friend who built Facebook with him, left him. 1296 01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:45,200 Yeah, Zuckerberg. The last scene of that movie is 1297 01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:48,200 Zuckerberg sending a friend request because he wants fucking 1298 01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:49,440 friends. Yeah. 1299 01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:51,800 And we canonize Zuckerberg at the end of the movie because 1300 01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,560 that's how all of us are. And I think we've reached a 1301 01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,440 point where socially, anyone who gets too big just thinks they're 1302 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:01,400 too good for everybody else, which we've all seen in this 1303 01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:02,800 and. Satak, really. 1304 01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,840 Cricket, for instance, you and I working on a project. 1305 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,880 All right, let's suppose we don't like each other, but we 1306 01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:09,760 remain professional for the sake of the project. 1307 01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:14,600 The project is done and you refuse to shake my hand. 1308 01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:21,000 Fuck this. You cannot go out there and 1309 01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:38,640 disrespect and not expect blowback or Pakistan. 1310 01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,000 Why are you falling into this trap? 1311 01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:48,240 Obviously, a manchild is at the helm in every administration. 1312 01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,040 Pakistan, Amit Shah, PCB chairman, BFO. 1313 01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:55,720 I'm not a fan of the way things kind of, you know, boiled down. 1314 01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:59,760 But ultimately we have to look Yaar yes, of gun introduce 1315 01:59:59,760 --> 02:00:04,080 conquer. Or, you know, I hate The Who 1316 02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:07,400 started it thing, but unfortunately, when there are no 1317 02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:10,640 adults in the room, who started who started it becomes relevant. 1318 02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,400 100% I agree. And I mean, you cannot. 1319 02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:20,960 No discourse about this incident can be had without discussing 1320 02:00:20,960 --> 02:00:22,960 most of his. I mean, because that was a 1321 02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:24,520 trigger. Like that was a fucking trigger. 1322 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:27,480 You don't do mustafizur. Bangladesh doesn't get 1323 02:00:27,480 --> 02:00:30,440 irritated. Yeah, Pakistan doesn't think of 1324 02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,040 pulling out because they were happy with playing in Colombo. 1325 02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:37,000 Bangladesh were happy with playing everywhere, They were 1326 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,280 happy with coming over. Their fans had booked tickets. 1327 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:44,360 And Bangladesh, in Calcutta and other places, yes, they might 1328 02:00:44,360 --> 02:00:46,400 not win a lot, but they're a fairly popular team. 1329 02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:48,840 Like in the sense that they will draw some crowds, people will 1330 02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:50,800 come to watch. It is the third highest 1331 02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:55,040 population of fans within cricket right Behave as. 1332 02:00:55,040 --> 02:01:00,040 If cricket not only belongs to you, which is what powerful, you 1333 02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,280 know, regimes do, to pretend as if this board belongs to you, 1334 02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:08,800 but to behave as if cricket exists because of you and ends 1335 02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:13,800 at you is just insane delusion. And I feel this blowback is 1336 02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:17,480 going to I hope it dents that delusion a little bit at least. 1337 02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:26,920 Key India, Pakistan game at one point fortunes might turn right. 1338 02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:30,200 You got whooped, Yeah, Left, right and center. 1339 02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:32,600 You got whooped. So. 1340 02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:35,560 Some things have to change. I mean, at the very least, if 1341 02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:39,360 they come back to the negotiating table, I think they 1342 02:01:39,360 --> 02:01:42,000 go yes. Bangladesh reinstate. 1343 02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,520 I'm sorry to interject you, but that's not a possibility. 1344 02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:46,760 K Bangladesh reinstate. Career or no against? 1345 02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,480 Sri Lanka, Sri Lanka, then Pakistan. 1346 02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:52,280 To say. Future ICC events you camera 1347 02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,320 hybrid valley agreement the future ICC events of India, 1348 02:01:55,760 --> 02:02:04,240 Pakistan, Bangladesh and. I unfair to Scotland also. 1349 02:02:07,200 --> 02:02:10,080 Vacations cancelled Karali and Brandon McMullen or George 1350 02:02:13,240 --> 02:02:17,360 vacation. But then I just want to I want 1351 02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:20,200 to bring up one tweet and then you guys can have the floor. 1352 02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:24,320 Yeah, Ek hamare kui prateek bhai, bhatki prateek bhai and 1353 02:02:24,320 --> 02:02:26,760 Kobe many viral Karadhi. When I retweeted him, 1354 02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:30,000 unfortunately it was Kobe, Beta Hasha, Gallia Pardi. 1355 02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:33,240 He says 1 Bangladesh cricketer was unwanted in India but a full 1356 02:02:33,240 --> 02:02:35,280 squad was wanted and if they don't want to come, that's 1357 02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:36,840 blasphemy. Logic can go to hell. 1358 02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:39,440 I don't think anyone's put it better than this bloke. 1359 02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:47,320 Blast. Will be long term promise ICC 1360 02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:48,720 Karke. They've been a negotiating. 1361 02:02:48,720 --> 02:02:51,680 They will be. What's stopping them from 1362 02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:54,360 tearing it apart the moment the tournament is over? 1363 02:02:55,680 --> 02:03:10,520 What rules rewrite? I mean, see, if you're talking 1364 02:03:10,520 --> 02:03:13,840 about presidents, if you're talking about any even fake set 1365 02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:17,040 of rules that you appear to follow, none of them have been 1366 02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,560 followed. So to come out of this 1367 02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:23,640 negotiating table with, you know, waving a paper saying 1368 02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:33,560 dekho humne ye manwal, Yeah. Hosting rights pay. 1369 02:03:35,560 --> 02:03:39,560 Times Now even a mother loves the son who brings him, brings 1370 02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:45,880 in more money at home. I would love it. 1371 02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:56,960 I would love it. Pakistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh. 1372 02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:00,560 I have never been on one of these shows but I kind of knew 1373 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:04,160 what it was all about. Ek bandaneh Bola grovel, grovel, 1374 02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:05,480 grovel. And I was like, I thought we'd 1375 02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:09,840 moved on from that word, right? Like Abhi recently Shukri Conrad 1376 02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,240 has literally put a plug or pulled the plug on that word. 1377 02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:16,840 And I I honestly felt bad for the other Pakistan panelists. 1378 02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:19,400 I I felt bad for the other Pakistan panelists because Mehta 1379 02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:20,800 chalo, you guys know what I'm all about. 1380 02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:24,720 I am married to my cricket career and I want to make a 1381 02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:26,680 difference on that front. Looking API sari chutiya beta 1382 02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:33,400 media gender to make chattagi mekush farku and they would 1383 02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:36,120 drift away from the subject matter and just respond to these 1384 02:04:36,120 --> 02:04:41,920 things. I kept coming back to the 1385 02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:47,960 subject matter. How is that good for the masses? 1386 02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:51,680 OK, next time. Times Now. 1387 02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:54,960 Or Republic TV. Yeah, the that's their model. 1388 02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:57,000 They are doing exactly what they intend to do. 1389 02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:59,760 Yeah, because. So. 1390 02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:04,960 When when Sushant Singh Rajput passed away, they opened his 1391 02:05:04,960 --> 02:05:07,520 WhatsApp account. They read all the chats. 1392 02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,200 They found one where something was said good. 1393 02:05:10,680 --> 02:05:16,280 Some city had a good scene and they said and I quote mujhe 1394 02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:18,800 drugs though. Mujhe drugs though, give me 1395 02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:20,400 drugs. This is on national TV bro. 1396 02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:24,880 Oh, this is a very famous Arnab Goswami video actually, and he's 1397 02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:35,320 reading it and he's table. So this is, I mean, basically, 1398 02:05:35,320 --> 02:05:36,880 if they're not paying you, there's no point. 1399 02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,840 Yeah, there is no point. Honestly, I went for the 1400 02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:44,040 experience the first time. But by all means, go. 1401 02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:49,320 Take the money and go. Yeah, I'm not someone who's 1402 02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:53,200 going to get rattled by that bullshit subject matter. 1403 02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:58,760 Subject matter. You will not make me reactive. 1404 02:05:59,240 --> 02:06:02,560 I am taking the money. Yeah, way above the level that I 1405 02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:05,320 operate or way below the level that I operate at. 1406 02:06:05,880 --> 02:06:11,600 I feel like I got a lot of like plaudits from from people in 1407 02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:14,600 India. So I suppose every now and. 1408 02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:21,080 Then this guy just basically invites retired for these from 1409 02:06:21,080 --> 02:06:24,760 both India and Pakistan. Most likely they are both having 1410 02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:26,600 a drink together in Dubai or Abu Dhabi. 1411 02:06:27,080 --> 02:06:32,280 That's it. That's their model. 1412 02:06:33,520 --> 02:06:49,400 There were multiple guys who were caught like this. 1413 02:06:53,280 --> 02:07:01,280 These guys, yeah. Ultimately my visibility Miljet, 1414 02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:03,200 but now I probably have to pick and choose. 1415 02:07:03,200 --> 02:07:06,040 And you know, I've done a lot of this working for free or chalo 1416 02:07:06,320 --> 02:07:14,880 could talk sport platform or I know ke hamari Ek Ek honest 1417 02:07:14,880 --> 02:07:17,960 level pivo khulke mazidhar kasam Ki maziah discussion. 1418 02:07:17,960 --> 02:07:27,000 There are a lot of jokes and it's it's top bats mera soft 1419 02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:28,720 corner because I just enjoy myself. 1420 02:07:35,680 --> 02:07:41,720 But point is, K, what really bothers me or scares me is RJ 1421 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:44,200 Jakhar. If you double or triple down on 1422 02:07:44,200 --> 02:07:48,600 the bullying and you make this an even more skewed sport in the 1423 02:07:48,600 --> 02:07:51,880 manner in which it is run, then this might be that watershed 1424 02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:54,560 moment which triggers the collapse of international 1425 02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:57,560 cricket already. We're kind of looking at a 1426 02:07:57,920 --> 02:08:03,400 trailer. All they really care about right 1427 02:08:03,400 --> 02:08:06,760 now is how to fuck Pakistan over in case they're not thinking 1428 02:08:06,760 --> 02:08:08,240 about the sport at all. They're not thinking about 1429 02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,320 Ireland and Afghanistan and Zimbabwe. 1430 02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:12,600 How do we get back to Pakistan? Or you could search anyway. 1431 02:08:13,840 --> 02:08:19,840 I think all of this is a long term conspiracy to have IPL all 1432 02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:24,920 year around. I mean if the IPL is ever to 1433 02:08:24,920 --> 02:08:27,360 move to a six month model, this could be the trigger for that as 1434 02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:29,800 well. I mean, I mean actually I. 1435 02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:33,800 Mean you, I mean they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll remove 1436 02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:36,280 cable 10, they'll reduce funding. 1437 02:08:36,280 --> 02:08:42,440 So Berto's Diong I think already the Dutch board has already has 1438 02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:45,400 an internal document where they've written that they expect 1439 02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:49,000 a 30% decrease in in revenues from the ICC. 1440 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:52,680 So that number is supposed to increase is what he tweeted 1441 02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:55,120 recently. That 30% number was probably two 1442 02:08:55,120 --> 02:09:04,600 months ago I think when the deal so I think or because 1443 02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:12,440 incompetence ICC President at this point in time. 1444 02:09:13,640 --> 02:09:29,720 Making use of this opportunistic moment, this can only end badly 1445 02:09:29,720 --> 02:09:32,560 for you and we really like the way we started this 1446 02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:34,880 conversation. I think everyone feels a wee bit 1447 02:09:34,880 --> 02:09:36,480 of joy that the hegemony is being challenged. 1448 02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,240 But we know the hegemony very well. 1449 02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:41,680 They are not going to negotiate. There is no way. 1450 02:09:41,960 --> 02:09:45,320 KPCB Kiku demands you will put forward Kartheim Abhimani jani 1451 02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:49,000 yes sidda Sidda Abko spiral out further Kartheva. 1452 02:09:49,000 --> 02:09:52,120 And it's stupid how the fizz triggers all of it. 1453 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:54,240 And I just continue to hold my head. 1454 02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:59,600 Can't say you know non adults, children, fucking immature 1455 02:09:59,600 --> 02:10:04,120 pieces of shit run our sport because cricket has so many 1456 02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:06,120 flavors. It has so many permutations. 1457 02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:11,120 It's any different cheese also and and you know, TK root siske 1458 02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:13,160 Hong, a full on racist and imperial. 1459 02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:15,640 But I think in the middle we had gotten to this point. 1460 02:10:15,640 --> 02:10:18,400 Jabe Bahadzada mutual respect, Thai and all these countries 1461 02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:22,800 were one tightly knit group. That 99 story of Chennai and 1462 02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:25,640 Chipok kind of tells you that. And how IS Bindra and Jagmohan 1463 02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:29,920 Dalniya and Isan Mani, Isan Mani, Isan Mani, sorry they work 1464 02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:31,800 together. We are so far away from that. 1465 02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:36,320 That is a long lost dream and whatever is going to happen here 1466 02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:42,240 on is probably just going to be xenophobia pro Max I think. 1467 02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:46,520 Why would they change that model now? 1468 02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:48,800 True until they get hit in the head. 1469 02:10:49,680 --> 02:10:50,680 Right. I mean. 1470 02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:59,040 Sushant Singh from the Caravan who writes for Cricket ET al, he 1471 02:10:59,040 --> 02:11:03,280 was there and I think he's made this point now at multiple 1472 02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:06,960 places, including our part, that essentially how the BCCI is 1473 02:11:06,960 --> 02:11:11,040 behaving is essentially how Hindutva wants to behave. 1474 02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:14,960 And, and that is only going to increase. 1475 02:11:14,960 --> 02:11:18,600 It's not going to decrease because currently they feel that 1476 02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:21,160 they have the money and they have the power and, and, and, 1477 02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:24,040 and they would like to continue behaving like that. 1478 02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:29,040 And what that does is the Pandora's box. 1479 02:11:29,640 --> 02:11:36,480 The average BCCI fan on Twitter and the average fan even 1480 02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:42,080 outside, they have a sense of borrowed pride which comes from 1481 02:11:42,080 --> 02:11:48,440 money which is not theirs but Mukesh Ambani's and wholly 1482 02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:55,120 cheese up as a because could keep us like I mean I mean 1483 02:11:55,320 --> 02:12:02,480 Pakistan, Bangladesh, I mean we as a country in real life 1484 02:12:02,480 --> 02:12:04,400 conversations and online conversations. 1485 02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:10,560 But the reality is key up K Ng players mask band construction 1486 02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:14,280 say pollution in the financial capital of this country Mumbai 1487 02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:28,000 in Hyderabad on a daily basis on a daily and somehow you project 1488 02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:34,240 it as a. Flex. 1489 02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:38,520 And somehow this is obvious. So The thing is key. 1490 02:12:39,880 --> 02:12:42,560 So the thing that I'm coming to the point is key. 1491 02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:51,400 And all of this is justified with the fact key with other 1492 02:12:52,920 --> 02:13:14,960 England or Australian evolve ho sakteo towards evolution final 1493 02:13:14,960 --> 02:13:17,560 words. Final words Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1494 02:13:17,560 --> 02:13:19,120 Keep doing what you guys are doing. 1495 02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:21,240 Yeah. Platform zuriya maybe khulki 1496 02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:25,800 Agar ya galli and then in laga town QK or I know pro sports. 1497 02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:29,680 But there is this certain responsibility that you feel ke 1498 02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:33,240 chaya kisi jakar platform jeopardizes your own career. 1499 02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:35,280 And you know what? It's not a very secure feeling 1500 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:38,440 being a Pakistani in this field. But I've tried to just be myself 1501 02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:41,520 and you guys call me for exactly that, which I really appreciate. 1502 02:13:41,520 --> 02:13:47,200 And Raj bhai komiskiyaj umm says in siddhana Salaam yaar. 1503 02:13:47,200 --> 02:13:50,280 But it was a great discussion. I hope kejo sune Valley APE 1504 02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,720 viewers and listeners and all of you guys who lasted this long in 1505 02:13:53,720 --> 02:13:56,840 this podcast, you were able to leave with some sort of 1506 02:13:56,840 --> 02:14:02,520 perspective or pieces. PCR Part 2 Joanna wo kuch AP 1507 02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:06,320 koya PE Agar AP kyanki Pele banti to kuch extent the cold 1508 02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:11,800 day. This is not a feasible sort of 1509 02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,760 model with which international cricket can be run in the 1510 02:14:14,760 --> 02:14:17,240 future. Reform is imminent. 1511 02:14:17,240 --> 02:14:19,000 It is important, but will we get it? 1512 02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:21,320 Probably not. Is this rest in peace 1513 02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:23,480 international cricket? I suppose we'll know in a week 1514 02:14:23,480 --> 02:14:25,920 or two. Pata chali jaigya pick on Kisi 1515 02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:28,560 sanction at Hokte. But yeah, ballsy move by the 1516 02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,160 PCB. Worry about the best person in 1517 02:14:31,160 --> 02:14:32,800 the OR the worst person in the room. 1518 02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:38,080 Made a solid point at. Least. 1519 02:14:38,120 --> 02:14:39,960 Second worst. I won't say worst. 1520 02:14:40,200 --> 02:14:43,280 Sure. But yeah, it's been an absolute 1521 02:14:43,280 --> 02:14:46,440 pleasure, guys. That's. 1522 02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:49,120 Four in a row there is good. They're going to blow next. 1523 02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:54,120 Thing the prodigal son turn Messiah gets a second hundred in 1524 02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,200 successive. In their part in romantic. 1525 02:14:56,200 --> 02:14:59,560 Style, the whole of Bengal are on their. 1526 02:14:59,600 --> 02:15:04,520 Feet not that important. He's gone the next ball. 1527 02:15:05,200 --> 02:15:07,760 The dream is diminished for Carlos Pratwick. 1528 02:15:08,560 --> 02:15:10,120 Favourable scenes here at the ball game.