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Hi, this is Sharda Agra. 
Hello, this is Mohammad Assam. 

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Hi, this is Pradeep Magazine. 
This is Bharam Kazi. 

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Welcome to the PCCI podcast. 
RCB breezes through the WPL to 

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win it like a boss. 
Take a bow. 

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Smriti Mandhana, Grace Harris, 
Lauren Bell, Nadine Leclerc, 

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Shyanka Patil and Richard Ghosh.
Oh wait, almost forgot Vol. 

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Kind of like they did. 
Are they through the tournament?

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This is the first time I've seen
a team just effortlessly run 

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through the group stage without 
playing their best to talk about

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this and all the other teams. 
But let's, let's face it, mostly

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about RCB. 
I have a great panel of writers,

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qualcasters and journalists with
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Let's start with introductions. 
So tell us about yourself and 

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your favorite sports team. 
And it doesn't have to be from 

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the WPL. 
So I'm going to start with 

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Youtha Rutra and then we'll go. 
We'll go in around drop in. 

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Yeah, sure. 
Thanks for having me, Richard. 

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My favorite sports team. 
I think it has to be RCB, right?

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I think India has become too 
big. 

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It's hard to support the overdog
after years of watching Sachin 

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struggle. 
And that's what I grew up with, 

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Sachin struggling and us having 
this great batting order and 

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going to Australia and still 
getting thrashed every possible 

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opportunity. 
And so it's just hard to support

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a team that rashes everyone 
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So they're going to be happy 
when they win in about a month's

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time. 
But I think RCB has to be the 

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team for me in cricket right 
now, though somehow they seem to

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also be becoming an overdog. 3 
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I'm not sure what to do with 
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But for now I'm going to keep 
telling everyone RCB had no 

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chance of winning this year, 
even if they did actually win. 

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And I'm going to live in this 
underdog. 

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Underdog do. 
How about, how about you, Neha? 

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Do you want to come in next? 
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first, really been a fan of your
podcast, Andrew. 

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Feels like a life coming to a 
full circle moment that I can, 

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you know, actually come over 
here and talk all things cricket

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itself, right? 
I think to talk about the team 

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that I've absolutely loved has 
to be again, our city. 

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No surprises there. 
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here. 
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really looking up to the men's 
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And in 2023, I think my life 
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The women's team came into the 
comp and we had WPL start of 

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itself, right? 
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just haven't been able to look 
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be that one. 
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able to assemble such a great 
team in 2023, eventually the 

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result didn't come their way, 
but the way they still, you 

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know, came back in 2024, won the
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in 2026, yeah, literally just 
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two time champions. 
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as RCV fans, we are that used 
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making a habit out of it. 
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forward, just excited to discuss
like RC VS Win itself and just 

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like actually review this WPL. 
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Next up is Pratib. 
Pratib, why don't you introduce 

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yourself and tell us that your 
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So I'm not all I've saved all my
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RCB is not the team I support. 
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see Tarutra and they have 
already hating on me. 

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But I've been a Rajasthan Royal 
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So I'm also from Rajasthan, 
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franchise. 
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the IPL in 2008. 
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the reason. 
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sort of got the right kind of 
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likes of Shane Warne. 
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watched right from young age. 
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support the Rajasthan Royals, 
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one IPL title. 
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Did I hear I Rajasthan Royals? 
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All right, so coming back to 
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Yeah, I think first of all, 
thank you so much for having me 

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on this podcast. 
It's a pleasure that I'm able to

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interact with so many of you 
guys who are all interested in 

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women's cricket in particular, 
but are also like proper sports 

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fans, cricket fans and all that.
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interesting. 
I mean, I grew up loving Delhi 

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Capitals. 
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Daredevils, and that was mainly 
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the group, right? 
I grew up a Sehwag fan and I was

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really in love with the Indian 
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point. 
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men's team obviously has been 
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supported almost all my life. 
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like they're still my favorite 
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But you know, now that with all 
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generation of my generation, you
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Rohit and all slowly retiring 
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Ashwin. 
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same level of attachment any 
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Not to say that I don't like 
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I mean, the T20 team is a 
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But yeah, if but even within the
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love the Indian men's Test team 
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the brand of cricket that they 
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caught my eye. 
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there. 
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fell in love with them. 
I went from Delhi to RCB around 

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2013, 2014 ish. 
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proper roller coaster ride. 
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I mean, we were just part of all
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Everybody used to make fun of us
that we are a bad team and we 

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can't win anything and all of 
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But now, 33 trophies in three 
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honestly. 
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my only question to RCB fans was
where are the bowlers? 

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Where? 
Where are they exactly like? 

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OK, so we'll we go back to the 
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So I'm going to ask you, what 
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RCB for you in this season? 
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So I actually put out a piece 
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just going on about this RCB 
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They have one batter that 
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one batter in the top 1012 round
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It's just Andre at the top and 
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They have one bowler who can 
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She bowls extremely well. 
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do 4 overs. 
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They had four recognized like 
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Two of them got out for 15 runs.
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man management. 
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I've no idea how they won like 
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then be bottom of the table at 
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I'm still not entirely sure we 
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I have no idea how we want. 
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runs look like a stroll in the 
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They I think the one thing none 
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how much the the one thing 
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She's so cool under any kind of 
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be but I don't know how they 
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This doesn't make any sense to 
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I don't actually have a proper 
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at the teams. 
MI should be the winners, DC 

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should be the winners, RCB 
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RCB should not be in this 
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Yeah, I mean, let's start off 
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bowling. 
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assuming you're talking about 
Lauren Bell, who was just 

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fantastic this season. 
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the others. 
So Neha Pradeep Shan, please 

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come in and talk about what was 
what was so special about RCB 

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this season and why do you think
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I mean, honestly, the win just 
happened, you know, like last 

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night, you know, at the time of 
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So it's still, you know, like 
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that this win has happened 
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possibly the highest run chase 
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WPL finalists again, like how 
Tartha said, they just made made

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it seem like a walk in the park,
right, the way the win just went

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about. 
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you know, through the season 
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I think one thing was the fact 
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winner almost every single game,
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phase itself, just getting off 
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It was just feeling like a fever
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At some point we would just snap
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this is not happening at I think
at some point my podcast to I 

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mentioned like, that's probably 
just like screenshot this table 

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and like stop the league, like 
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Was it like, you know, sometime 
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an end and actually did have 
that reality check in between 

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now and the tournament too. 
But again, just coming to the 

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positives in this tournament 
itself, I think it's impossible 

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not to talk about Lauren Belle, 
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I think it's been spoken to 
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media team has just been making 
so many AI edits of her, you 

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know, just walking through 
forests and like walking through

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desserts and just ensuring, you 
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forests. 
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she's been bowling this season, 
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The Lauren Belle 2.0 version 
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about has done that for for as 
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but the way she's just been so 
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A lot of people take dot balls 
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just made, you know, dot balls 
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variations that she's brought in
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I think for me, she has to be 
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positives. 
If you let me, I'll just keep 

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talking about a lot of other 
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I think the other panellists can
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definitely has to be like right 
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I think I agree with Neha 
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also, and one of the earlier 
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along these very lines where at 
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least in like the first four or 
five games, every game threw up 

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a different star. 
You either had Nadine de Klerk, 

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you had Priyanka Patil, you had 
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So all of these players come in 
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But more importantly, I think 
something that was discussed 

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preseason as well is that in the
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going to step up? 
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there has played a really good 
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time and something that we've 
also kind of seen her do over 

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the years in T 20s, at least 
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was a good season for her, but 
we feel like she's not reached 

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her potential in this format and
this time for sure, I think that

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was a big difference. 
One of the things is her game 

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again, spin improved. 
I think one of the factors was 

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how she plays off spin. 
All of that is something that 

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came a full circle for her. 
I think she's gotten much better

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there. 
But even in the power play for 

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her, I think one of the biggest 
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despite her power play strike 
rate having dropped a bit, what 

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helped was that Grace Harris was
on top who was able to take 

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charge and take the attack, 
which let Mandana settle in and 

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then take her own explosive way 
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This was one of the biggest 
differences I I'll have to 

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search for the numbers, but 
Mandana has gotten so much 

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better in just holding her 
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so that she can expand in the 
middle of us. 

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Yeah, go ahead. 
Yeah, I think I have to 

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completely agree with what 
Pratib and Neh have to say, 

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right? 
I mean, Lauren Bell, Nadine 

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Leclerc and Priti Mandhana, I 
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players that have perhaps been 
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campaign this year. 
And obviously all of us at the 

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start of the season, I was very,
very pessimistic about RCBII had

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no idea how they're going to 
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because the level of impact that
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seasons, it really seemed 
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But just the fact that so many 
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I mean, rather had won them a 
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Who would have ever thought that
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had no idea why they were 
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ultimately she won them a game 
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situation, right? 
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you know, they were not cruising
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know, cruise there that they 
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know, tricky situation, but they
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you know, show that they are a 
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these adversities as well, 
right, Even in the final, to an 

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that truly it was rather had of 
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couldn't really tell if it's a 
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hit wicket thing. 
I I was like, is it a hit 

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wicket? 
Wait, wait, wait. 

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And my dad was like, no, no, no,
they they won, they won. 

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That was a bit, you know, that 
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But of course, I mean Lauren 
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start. 
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played a very important role in 
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because initially they were 
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just the fact that in every 
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RCB had a match winner from 
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ball. 
So I mean, that is a pretty 

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special thing for a team to be 
able to do. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I cannot believe Radha Yadav, 

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who won them, who won them came 
Like, I, I'm sorry, but this is,

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this is the stuff that that's of
legends like rather Yadav has no

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business coming in at #5 Guys, 
come on. 

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Like my brain, they broke my 
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first time. 
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innings initially, I think she 
was like 3 of 10 or something 

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and we were all in the group 
probably just being like, what 

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is happening. 
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I think she hits a six and a 
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I can't remember who the bowler 
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Can someone point that out? 
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or the 8th over. 
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played a proper innings. 
And Richard Ghosh at the other 

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end, she was incredible. 
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that I've been noticing with RCB
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balls to quite an extent. 
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know, that game against Mumbai 
where Richard Ghosh played a 

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Brill innings in a losing cause 
that was the game where RCV of 

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the past. 
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teams and all, they would have 
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I mean, 35 for five, likely 
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49 or maybe even, you know, 
60-70 all out, game over. 

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But the fact that Richard goes 
played it smart, right? 

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She didn't go for the win. 
It made no sense to go for them 

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when you had to preserve the net
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so smartly. 
I mean, I couldn't catch that 

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game live because I was busy 
with something else. 

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But when I saw the whole game 
ball by ball later on, I was so 

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impressed with the level of game
smarts that she had. 

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That's fair. 
You you want to come back and. 

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Yeah, no, I think these guys 
have covered a lot of it, right?

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You've covered it too. 
Rather, Yadav is not my favorite

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player. 
I mean, I got nothing against 

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her personally, but to have her 
at #5 to have her as your four 

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choice bowler is a lot of faith,
which I just don't have in her. 

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But yeah, I mean, she worked 
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runs. 
She had that 160 run innings 

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that won us a match. 
It, it is true. 

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I, I, I kind of wish the season 
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if this is a luck based thing or
if it's actually replicable that

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every game someone else just 
stands up because it's not been,

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Oh, I'll come in and give you a 
six on 10 performance. 

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It's I'll come in and give you 
10 on 10. 

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I'll give you one on 10. 
Those are the two options. 

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There is no, oh, I'm just 
consistent. 

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So it's a really interesting 
team and as far as I can tell, 

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it's one of the few cricket 
teams where the power of a star 

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is more important than the power
of team construction. 

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Where Mandra and Bella have been
brilliant and just whoever has 

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shown up on the day has been 
good enough. 

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You've not needed like this. 
Oh, you know, we need to own 

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this phase and need to own that.
Like yesterday, RC VS bowling 

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was worse. 
They worst at MI's bowling. 

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MI's batting was great. 
Like they did a really good job.

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None of it mattered. 
Voltage showed up and demolished

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everyone and then Mandra went 
OK, cool, I've given you 6 overs

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now I'm going to demolish 
everyone and it just didn't 

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matter at all. 
It was incredible, Yeah. 

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There was a calmness about it. 
And I think one of the 

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interesting things I heard 
Smitty Mandana say at the end, 

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was it her or I think I read 
this on Cricinfo, that she said 

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that after the auction, we all 
got phone calls from the 

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management telling them that, 
OK, this is your role. 

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This is what you need to prepare
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role clarity is really 

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important, especially in the 
20s. 

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Like, OK, in this situation you 
will do this. 

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If that doesn't happen, you 
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etcetera. 
So just talking about what you 

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know about their management and 
the cricket management this 

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season, does anyone want to talk
about that? 

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What's the general sentiment on 
Malulu and the coach is what 

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I'll open to the folks? 
Yeah, I don't know. 

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It's very interesting, right? 
Because obviously we don't have 

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any insight on how the workings 
are exactly, but RCP does this 

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thing where even on YouTube, for
example, they've put out these 

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documentary style videos where 
they've sort of shown their 

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process or what it looks like. 
So from that front and from 

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whatever I do know about how 
data is looked at in the game, 

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at least RCBS ahead as compared 
to a lot of the other teams when

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it comes to just understanding 
how data can be used. 

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So I don't know how many other 
teams are looking at phase wise 

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play or looking at balls for 
boundary ratios or whatever it 

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is. 
But at least on that front, it 

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does look like RCB is able to 
use the data to their advantage.

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Some of the decisions of course 
still feel very waivered. 

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Some of the selection that we've
spoken about through the entire 

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tournament have felt waivered, 
but even something as simple as 

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getting inside this upgrade, if 
you notice a lot of the other 

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WPL teams, they've struggled to 
have that second U ball bowler 

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who can actually swing the ball.
And in this case, the other way,

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most teams just have to win 
swing bowlers or they have one 

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seam bowler and someone who can 
maybe swing the ball. 

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So even small things like this 
where you bring in that variety 

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is definitely something that I 
think the management has 

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actively tried to do. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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Anyone else any any comments on 
Malawan? 

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I'll probably just add a quick 
point here about Malone and 

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himself. 
I mean the kind of criticism 

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that the man receives on a 
constant basis online, right? 

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I think some of the RSV fans 
just love making fun of him and 

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just mocking him all the time 
for all of his strategies. 

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I think for the longest time, 
the whole rather had a promotion

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to that number 5 position was 
something that I was like, what 

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is happening here? 
Like is there something that the

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man sees that we don't in spite 
of all of that, you know, ensure

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that the strategies have worked 
out well? 

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I think it's the, you know, 
reflects like, well, in his CB 

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and all of that. 
But as Tartha said, right, if 

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the season was like longer, 
would these experiments have 

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worked? 
Could things have like been 

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slightly different? 
It's something we'd definitely 

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have to see. 
And just to like slightly go on 

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a tangent here, I think a lot of
people just end up criticizing 

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him as a coach because they're 
like, hey, what are his 

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credentials? 
Has he even played, you know, 

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like enough domestic cricket? 
Has he played international 

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cricket? 
Like what makes him suitable to 

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be up there? 
OK, not sure. 

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Like what are the basis that 
people are judging him on, 

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right, Because you have a lot of
like coaching certification, 

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kind of an experience that comes
in hand. 

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You're not you don't necessarily
have to be like a player of a 

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certain caliber to be a coach, 
right? 

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Because if that was the, you 
know, parameter for everything 

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that you've had to had, like you
have to play the game to, you 

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know, like comment about it. 
And I think most of us arms are 

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experts who just have to like 
shut our laptops and just like 

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sit and just boss the game, 
right? 

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Not talk about it. 
So I think some fans can get a 

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little unfair in their criticism
and it's not coming from a place

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of rational. 
You can obviously like question 

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decisions, but to like get on a 
personal level, I think a lot of

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fans just end up doing that. 
And sometimes RCB fans 

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themselves are, you know, guilty
of putting their own courses 

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down. 
That's fine. 

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OK, so I think for me, what was 
really interesting about CB 

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season was also the one match 
where the clerk came back from 

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behind and wanted like that 
completely super impossible 

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situation. 
Like I was like, what what is 

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she? 
Is she just doing what she does 

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for South Africa but in a more 
accelerated, like smaller 

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format? 
I was I was extremely impressed 

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with that. 
And I think when you saw a team 

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where, you know, she's a new 
player, new players come in, Vol

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comes in and just immediately 
succeeds right away, that speaks

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to their management, right? 
So, OK, so we're going to go to 

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talking about. 
A specialty from from Karnataka 

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is Benedosa. 
So who was the Benedosa of RCB 

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this year? 
Like one player who you think 

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they could not have done without
and who's delicious from a team 

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composition perspective. 
No other reason. 

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I think I'm going to leave Who's
Delicious in Neha and stay far 

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away from that question. 
Yeah, we probably, I had to 

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address this one again. 
It's a tough one, right? 

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But my pick definitely has to be
Lauren Bell, right? 

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I think just to imagine an RCB 
bowling lineup without her is 

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impossible, right? 
The impact that she has had, we 

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can probably dedicate an entire 
episode just dissecting her 

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entire bowling analysis itself. 
So at least for me, she 

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definitely has to be like right 
up there. 

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Just can't imagine, you know, 
this victorious campaign without

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her. 
I mean, the social media team 

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didn't have a field day with all
the edits that they did, but 

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still, right, her back like on 
the field is just was just 

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unparalleled. 
And I think we were having a 

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discussion, right, like in one 
of the groups about her possibly

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being chosen as the MVP is, 
well, right. 

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She was very much in that race. 
I mean, she should have been 

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considered. 
But I think they're just such a 

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batting obsessed nation that we 
just don't care enough about our

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bowlers. 
And this T20 format itself is 

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like, just so unforgiving to 
bowlers, right? 

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Yeah. 
I'd probably end my rant at 

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that. 
And hopefully my answer is like,

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like just make sense. 
Oh, it, it really does. 

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I think one of the most 
interesting analysis that I read

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was the one about Deepti Sharma 
countering Lauren Bell and how 

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much, how much work went into 
that when she came and opened 

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for UP Warriors. 
So that was right. 

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It was, it was in your letter. 
He, he looks confused right 

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there. 
He's like. 

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What it took me a second to go 
Deepti Sharma. 

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That's the wrong team. 
No, but yeah, I know. 

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No, I she is the easy answer. 
I mean, Mandra has also had an 

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unbelievably good season. 
We've kind of taken her for 

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granted with how good she plays 
and how much she does for the 

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team. 
But yeah, the point is fair when

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you have like a 60% dodgeball 
percentage across an entire 

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00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,400
season in T 20s, I don't really 
think you can go beyond that. 

445
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:20,600
Like, cap is the gold standard 
in the WPL and Bell has made her

446
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:25,440
look distinctly second place. 
And it's it's good timing on her

447
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:26,600
part. 
She's got a home World Cup in a 

448
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,680
couple of months, swing 
conditions. 

449
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,120
It should work out for her. 
Hopefully they play Lindsay 

450
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,680
Smith as a second power play 
bowler so the rest of us can 

451
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,400
have an out. 
But yeah, Lauren Bell has to be 

452
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,200
the easy answer here. 
I don't think we even come close

453
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,960
without her. 
All right, so I'm going to ask 

454
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,880
you all for your final ratings 
and we we're going to rate them 

455
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,720
out of not out of just 10. 
We're going to rate them out of 

456
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,520
10 specific items. 
And So what is your rating for 

457
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:58,520
RCB season out of 10 cricket 
balls that the clerk has hit out

458
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,520
of the park. 
So what's, what's your rating 

459
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,120
for RCB season overall? 
I think less than 10 is not 

460
00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,520
acceptable. 
Are you talking how are we 

461
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,400
reading this? 
Is it how happy are we with the 

462
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,840
season? 
Is it how sustainable this is? 

463
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,280
Is it like what? 
How are we reading? 

464
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,200
What the criteria? 
I mean, in, in general, like, 

465
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,040
OK, let's say compared to their 
last season that they won, you 

466
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,400
know, how is this how, how is 
this season? 

467
00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,760
So about a 75 out of 10. 
I mean, they went from not 

468
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:35,320
making the playoffs to winning 
in incredible fashion. 

469
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,680
So I think, yeah, I don't really
have. 

470
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,080
I have lots of criticisms, but 
all of my criticism seems valid 

471
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,000
apparently. 
So yeah, I just got to go with 

472
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,240
the flow, I think. 
We agree with this rating. 

473
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,360
Shannon Pratip. 
This. 

474
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,440
I mean, this time around, yeah. 
Like with the number of things 

475
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,640
that could have gone sideways 
with the way they picked their 

476
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,280
squads and ultimately how it 
worked out for them, probably 

477
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,320
8-8 and 1/2 on 10, because 
there's definitely scope for 

478
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,360
improvement and there's 
definitely they have some 

479
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:13,760
quality players. 
But if they are able to sustain 

480
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,400
this in the long run, that's 
what we'll get them to a proper 

481
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,520
10, yeah. 
I think it's interesting, right 

482
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,720
when if we talk about the last 
season that RCB won, they 

483
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,840
actually came back from behind 
and won that season. 

484
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,680
Like at one point it seemed like
they're not going to win that 

485
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,400
season after that one run lost, 
right? 

486
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,520
It just looked very difficult 
for them, but they managed to 

487
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,240
come back and that was all the 
back of some great individual 

488
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,280
performances and that was a 
proper star-studded team. 

489
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,520
In some ways this team has been 
very good, but it doesn't have 

490
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,800
the same number of stars. 
In some ways I would say they 

491
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,000
don't have an Elise Perry or a 
Sophie Molyneux or even a Sophie

492
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,280
Divine for that matter. 
They don't have a lot of stars. 

493
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,360
They have very good players. 
They have like like a lot, like 

494
00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,400
I said, lots of players have 
done well in their particular 

495
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,120
roles, but I still feel that 
this team over performed a bit. 

496
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,840
I mean, I think maybe it's just 
our bias because coming into the

497
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,520
tournament we were all like, no,
no, no, RCV is not a good team 

498
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,320
and all of that. 
So I would say that it like, you

499
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,960
know, exceed my expectations 
quite a bit. 

500
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,680
And compared to the last season,
this was a more clinical season 

501
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,560
purely if we judge them on their
performances, right. 

502
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,440
So I would give them a nine out 
of 10. 

503
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,120
Neha looks happy with that. 
Yeah, because that's exactly the

504
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:21,720
number I was probably looking 
at, right. 

505
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320
I think the kind of season that 
RCB had this time around was 

506
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:26,840
like straight out of a Bollywood
movie itself. 

507
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,400
I could care off to like that 
perfect star, you know, so many 

508
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760
wins on on the tort and 
suddenly, like, you know, your 

509
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,680
qualification is the seed, but 
you want to make your presence 

510
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,800
in the fine that you have this 
few losses and then again, you 

511
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,800
know, come back and win. 
So I definitely say it that 

512
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,440
there are like areas of 
criticism and, you know, 

513
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,000
pointers that they keep in mind 
right, going ahead too, because 

514
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,280
that number three position 
against Georgia Wall did well. 

515
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,640
But then there was like a little
bit of experimentation that was 

516
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,800
happening back in. 
And sometimes I think the 

517
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,640
bowling too, right, can get just
heavily reliant on Lauren Bell. 

518
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,680
And could Prema Raut have been 
included? 

519
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,320
Why is Pooja Vasrikar not 
bowling? 

520
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,520
It's just a lot of questions. 
It's just me nitpicking. 

521
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,280
But in all fairness, just if I'm
talking from a fan sentiment, 

522
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,080
I'm just putting on the fan cap 
itself. 

523
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,200
I think I'd probably say, you 
know, like this was that 10 on 

524
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,680
10 sort of a season. 
And like Taratra keeps saying, 

525
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,880
right, the win doesn't make 
since the fact that it has 

526
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,080
happened has just probably still
left us in denial. 

527
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,080
Like, I think the four of us are
just like, in denial. 

528
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,920
Like what just happened actually
is 1. 

529
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,160
But then to probably process 
this sub in itself, right? 

530
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,400
Like, in the light of all the 
information that we have and all

531
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,440
the stats and everything, I 
think it's still quite the 

532
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,320
momentous feat and something 
we'd remember much more fondly, 

533
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,760
you know, rather than the 24 
win, which sort of, you know, 

534
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,800
set the ball rolling. 
But now they've just made 

535
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,880
winning a habit, champion, 
mindset, DNA and all of that. 

536
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,840
Yeah. 
Yeah, that's right. 

537
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,920
So Speaking of a champion 
mindset, we're we're going to 

538
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,720
come to our other finalist who's
been forever been a finalist, 

539
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,080
right? 
So our cohost Sartuck, he has, 

540
00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:58,840
he has a tweet which says, you 
know, Can you imagine being 

541
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:05,680
Marzon Cap runner up at the T20 
World Cup in 20/22/2024, the ODI

542
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,160
World Cup in 25 and now 4 out of
Four Seasons in the WPL 

543
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,080
consistently being a finalist 
and not winning. 

544
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,000
What is she going to do to make 
them win? 

545
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:26,360
Four daughters both. 
But seriously, I think Cap can 

546
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,560
do right. 
She's brilliant. 

547
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,720
She could have done a little bit
more in the World Cup final, 

548
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,200
last one the last year, but in 
the WPL this is not at all. 

549
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,760
It's really hard to say what DC 
did wrong. 

550
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,840
They just, they have the, they 
have an incredible bowling 

551
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,240
attack that is useless against 
one player in that world. 

552
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040
And one player seems to be 
Smriti Mantra. 

553
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,440
And I don't, I really am sitting
here after the game having 

554
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,880
analyzed it. 
I don't know too much about what

555
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,280
DC could have done worse because
they didn't concede any between 

556
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,800
8 and 15 runs. 
That's it, right? 

557
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,600
It was 1 / 7, one over 16, but 
it's basically 8 and 15. 

558
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,240
They were, they didn't get hit, 
they didn't concede too many 

559
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,920
singles, They just got beat by a
better team, like by two 

560
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
players. 
They got beat and they still 

561
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840
almost pulled it off. 
Got a couple of wickets at the 

562
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,360
end. 
Put some nervousness back in the

563
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,080
RCB fan. 
So from just yesterday's 

564
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,560
perspective I it's hard to 
criticize them too much. 

565
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,200
Overall I actually think they're
on a pretty good trajectory. 

566
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,480
I think Jeremy has been an 
inspired choice of captain. 

567
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:38,000
The first couple of like the 
first week or so was iffy, but 

568
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,840
the last week has been 
fantastic. 

569
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
From what I've seen. 
She uses a bowl as well. 

570
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:47,040
She feels well, she trusts her 
team, she leads by example. 

571
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,640
She's kind of even as an RCV fan
and Mandara fan, she kind of has

572
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880
me going. 
Maybe Jamie should jump the key 

573
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,120
a little bit for Team India. 
She's been really good. 

574
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,680
Yeah. 
And do you want to come in 

575
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Pratib, we haven't heard from 
you in a bit about DC. 

576
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,320
Delhi Capitals should try and 
reduce their choker score and to

577
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880
do that they'll have to quick 
lesser South African players in 

578
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,960
their team. 
That's honestly the only way 

579
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520
it's going to work out for them 
because you have 3 S Africans 

580
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,880
and it just follows them. 
The tag of chokers just follows 

581
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,840
them across tournaments across 
years. 

582
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:27,200
But yeah, I think spot on. 
We've mostly done a lot of 

583
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,920
things like there's not too much
that even from a game analysis 

584
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,040
point of view that you'd look at
and you'd say, you know, there's

585
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,400
definitely something that's gone
wrong. 

586
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,080
If anything, at the halfway 
mark, at least in the final, we 

587
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,600
felt that it's totally their 
game. 

588
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,720
It the pitch was of course a 
better one to bat on as compared

589
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,720
to what we've been seeing in the
second leg. 

590
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,160
But even for them, the way they 
backed it through the middle 

591
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,640
overs, especially Jimmy 
Rodriguez and Laura Blvd. 

592
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,400
I think they pasted beautifully.
Like literally the only thing I 

593
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,160
can think of is maybe Blvd. not 
getting enough strike to explode

594
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480
in possibly the last four. 
But Chanel Henry anyways did a 

595
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,880
good job. 
So like, what do you look at and

596
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,040
what do you say? 
And maybe the one thing is they 

597
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,640
would have had Sri Charani step 
up a little more because she's 

598
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,320
someone who, if she gets on a 
role, can really run through a 

599
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,000
side, can get multiple wickets. 
But yeah, really it's it's just 

600
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,320
unlucky for them. 
Maybe they need to change 

601
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,320
something in their setup or 
whatever it is. 

602
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,200
But yeah, like just hard luck. 
Yeah, DCI. 

603
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,520
OK, first of all, I need to 
apologize and give a really 

604
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960
deep, heartfelt apology to Laura
Blvd. 

605
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,120
I disrespected you before the 
tournament. 

606
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,960
I said that perhaps this wasn't 
your format and maybe you 

607
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,600
wouldn't make it to the team. 
And my God, have I been proof 

608
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:57,080
and proven wrong? 
Do you want to come in and talk 

609
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,760
about DCA little bit? 
Yeah, I think it's after a 

610
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,880
point. 
It just becomes a little 

611
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,440
hilarious now that every time 
they make the final and they 

612
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,080
don't win, I mean, it feels, you
know, there's a sort of team 

613
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,680
because as I said, they were my 
first love in the IPL. 

614
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,680
So I always have like the soft 
corner for them. 

615
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,520
And even in the women's team, 
they've always had players that 

616
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,440
I've really liked, right? 
I mean, Jimmy, they had, they 

617
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,520
have animals even now, right? 
Lots of players in their team. 

618
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,640
You want to root for those sorts
of players simply because of how

619
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,280
good they are in terms of 
quality and how they conduct 

620
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,280
themselves on the field. 
So I don't know, like yesterday,

621
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,520
I feel the only thing where they
probably went wrong was the 

622
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,760
first three overs where Lauren 
will bowl really well and she 

623
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,560
was able to keep Lizzie Lee 
quiet. 

624
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,480
Because apart from that, if you 
break down the game from a face 

625
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,360
by face basis, there really 
wasn't much to separate between 

626
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,240
the two teams. 
Possibly the cash that Jimmy 

627
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,920
dropped in the 19th over. 
I feel like that is one thing 

628
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,680
which could have maybe, you 
know, put a little more 

629
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760
pressure, especially with pretty
just having gotten out a couple 

630
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,760
like the ball before or the ball
like in that's very over, right.

631
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,360
So I just feel like if that was 
something they could have, it 

632
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,560
was not even a choke, right? 
It's not like they were in a 

633
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160
position of power. 
And from there, do you know, 

634
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000
they bowled, they didn't like 
bowl absolutely terribly or, you

635
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,960
know, came back like the worst 
possible situation for us. 

636
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,840
It was possibly 8 or 4 in the 
whole game. 

637
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,000
They were just in so much 
control. 

638
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,600
I, I was talking to Deepak 
yesterday on 1st umpire when we 

639
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,320
were doing the final podcast and
he was also saying the same 

640
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,200
thing, like what could he have 
done differently? 

641
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,600
And maybe if they bowled cup 
kept another over for Cap later 

642
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:30,960
on. 
But then you could also you 

643
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,840
could also argue that you want 
cap in the power play, right? 

644
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,120
You don't really want her to, 
you know, hold back her overs 

645
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,760
when RCB are going all against 
blazing especially, you want to 

646
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,840
take those early wickets, right?
And that's what you expect from 

647
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,280
a player of that quality. 
And I, I don't know, maybe one 

648
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520
very interesting point actually 
that Deepak brought up in a chat

649
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480
yesterday was that RCB have a 
lot of paces in the middle overs

650
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,120
who can sometimes roll those 
back of a lens, slower balls, 

651
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,000
cutters, those sorts of stuff, 
right. 

652
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,360
DC are a bit more spin reliant 
in the middle overs, which I 

653
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,440
actually found thought this was 
a very interesting point. 

654
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800
And I think apart from that, 
yeah, it's very hard to blame 

655
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,520
that this time. 
And if you look at their 

656
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240
trajectory in the finals, even 
the final last year, they should

657
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
have honestly won. 
They were just using what, 150 

658
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,640
odd. 
Yeah, I guess Mumbai. 

659
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,360
I don't know how they lost that 
final either. 

660
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,760
Again, this one, in this one, to
be fair, they didn't really seem

661
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,800
in the game in the second 
innings. 

662
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680
It was just RTB just seemed like
the better side to be very 

663
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,760
honest. 
Yeah, they just dominated. 

664
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,480
And do you want to do you want 
to come in about their batting 

665
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,760
specifically? 
Like what was interesting about 

666
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,360
their batting this season? 
Any and I'll open for, I'll open

667
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,040
the floor to everyone. 
Like any interesting stats about

668
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,840
DC's batting specifically? 
So I actually have a couple of 

669
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,760
numbers, and this is 
specifically for the Vadodara 

670
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,280
like, which I'd like to think 
was more suited to this type of 

671
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,520
batting because in the middle 
overs, especially when the 

672
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,400
pitches were not that good, 
strike rotation was extremely 

673
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,120
important. 
And something that we've 

674
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,680
actually spoken about on length 
across groups is basically the 

675
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,360
strike rotation aspect, right? 
Because in the Vadodara leg, of 

676
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,840
the top six run scorers, you 
have three of the batters from 

677
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,239
DC. 
Of course you have Jamie and 

678
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,400
Laura, but also Lizelli on top. 
It doesn't matter as much to 

679
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,360
rotate strike because it's a new
ball. 

680
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,480
You have the field, the only two
fielders outside. 

681
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,760
So Lizelli makes it there 
because she can hit the 

682
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
boundaries. 
But if you look at non boundary 

683
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,040
strike rates for Jamie, Ma 
Rodriguez as well as Laura 

684
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,719
Wolwart, it's upwards of 75. 
And to give you context, only 

685
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,760
Beth Mooney is another player 
who features in that list. 

686
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,960
And this is for anyone who's got
at least 150 plus runs in the 

687
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,560
world that like. 
So I think that was their 

688
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,120
biggest 10th is that they just 
bossed the middle overs 

689
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,920
irrespective of who was bowling,
irrespective of how the pitch 

690
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000
was. 
And it was definitely worse than

691
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,520
Navi Mumbai for the most part. 
So that's a number that I will 

692
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,320
throw which is going to help 
them at least in the long run 

693
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,440
for sure. 
Yeah. 

694
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:02,160
I think just to add on to that 
point, just yesterday Wulvark 

695
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,760
played 25 balls, didn't face a 
single dot in. 

696
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,360
Isn't point. 
It's ridiculous. 

697
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
Like Mandraf also did this 
amazing thing of facing just 

698
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,960
four dots but then it gets blown
away by no dots. 

699
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,000
Like I've never heard of anyone 
playing no dots. 

700
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680
Like I was looking it up going I
can't remember the last time 

701
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Abhishek Sharma played no dots. 
The gay breaks cricket Woolvark 

702
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,800
is incredible. 
Like the more you read about 

703
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,560
Woolvark, right, she is this 
unbelievable player who to me 

704
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,080
it's a very close battle at the 
top of cricket of Mandnas 1A, 

705
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,320
Wolvat 1B, because Manda has 
higher highs. 

706
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,160
But Wolvat just can do 
everything. 

707
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,160
She can be your slow anchor. 
She can be the death overs 

708
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,360
hitter. 
She can be this. 

709
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,440
Oh, I'm going to be in the 
background where Jeremy 

710
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,000
Rodriguez and Henry hit 
everything and just keep the 

711
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520
ball going. 
She just can do everything. 

712
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,720
She doesn't have a weakness to 
her game. 

713
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:59,760
It's quite incredible. 
Yeah, that's, I think DC's 

714
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,680
batting was probably the plus 
point. 

715
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,840
Envy. 
Was it you who had the comment 

716
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,120
about Nikki Prasad's entry 
points like they're looking not 

717
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,360
as I think in the early DC games
it looked like, you know, she 

718
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,280
had to come on early and did not
really relish that role. 

719
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,800
Do you does anyone have any 
comments on that? 

720
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,360
Yeah, I think they they haven't 
figured what should be her entry

721
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,640
points and nor have they figured
like what's the best position 

722
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,920
for her to bat and like does she
need more balls to play at the 

723
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,760
start or does she need to 
accelerate at the end? 

724
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,320
I think she's there because 
there's obvious talent. 

725
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,880
And I think that's why I think, 
and we'll go back, we'll go back

726
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,120
to this eventually over a long 
period of time in, in at least 

727
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,320
the WPL till, till we have just 
these five teams and these 

728
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:56,360
tournaments having in such a 
small, short span of time is the

729
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,000
benefit of having a longer 
season is, is how you get to 

730
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,120
know about these teams much more
in depth. 

731
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,720
I mean, these teams have more 
than 20/20/20 odd players, 

732
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,480
right? 
So that, that's, that should be 

733
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,720
great for a, for a longish 
season as well. 

734
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,960
And now we only see role clarity
is coming for, for very, very 

735
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,560
few teams. 
I mean, most teams are still 

736
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,640
finding and, and that is also 
something we are told in our 

737
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,800
preview that most teams are 
going to struggle to find their 

738
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,080
11. 
And I think it's, it's that and 

739
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,080
that's not going to change. 
And, and it's not their fault. 

740
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,680
It's the fault of this season 
being created in in a very 

741
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:40,680
random fashion, snuck between 
India and New Zealand and and 

742
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,840
like the Under 19 World Cup 
also, and then the pressure of 

743
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480
closing it on a Thursday. 
All of those things. 

744
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,960
None of this means that Nikki 
Rosa shouldn't be in the 11. 

745
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,600
She she must be in the 11. 
I probably just wanted to add in

746
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,680
here a point about, you know, 
just the larger utilization, 

747
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,200
right of the Indian uncapped 
players by most of these 

748
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,880
franchises, right? 
It's just been quite sad because

749
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120
take the case of UP Warriors, 
what they did, which Shweta 

750
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,600
said, I was bringing her in like
so much lower in that batting 

751
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,320
order. 
Nikki Prasad, case in point for 

752
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680
daily Capitals, I mean, you have
retained them for a reason, 

753
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,480
right? 
You send some potential in this 

754
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,000
players and even like a basic 
look at stats itself, right, 

755
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,320
We'll give you that we'll give 
you an idea that Shweta set out 

756
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960
again is someone who bats like 
right up top in that batting 

757
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,560
order don't have to go too far 
to see her under 19 World Cup 

758
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,200
itself right See what she's done
in the Delhi Premier League what

759
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,240
she companies to do for her 
state team as well. 

760
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,360
Nikki Prasad too right again 
bats in that top 4 for Karnataka

761
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,760
itself. 
So for me, I think it's just the

762
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,440
criminal underutilization of 
Indian uncapped sources, you 

763
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,760
know, resources by these teams 
that really like stands out so 

764
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,880
much and then you expect them to
perform and do the thing because

765
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,240
I think Nikki Prasad did get 
some hate, you know, like, oh, 

766
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,040
you know, she is not able to 
score runs like the SAKSAU and 

767
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,880
all of that. 
But but just actually go look at

768
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600
her numbers domestically, right?
Her strike rates don't cross 

769
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,680
more than 100, at least this 
time. 

770
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,400
And I, I just like to say, yeah,
that I hope there is some 

771
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,840
foresight into like the planning
itself, right? 

772
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,240
If you really need to be 
strategic about like just using 

773
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,520
these players better. 
And I hope Delhi takes some 

774
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,640
learnings, right? 
Because like 4 times unlucky 

775
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,960
again, I'm not telling that's 
the only reason that they lost. 

776
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,760
But then four times unlucky. 
I, I think law of answers will 

777
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,920
catch up at some point. 
Cricketing gods will have to, 

778
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440
you know, just do some justice 
in that regard. 

779
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,760
But then this was one point that
really stuck out to me. 

780
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,360
And yeah. 
Yeah. 

781
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,440
How much did DC miss Sarah Bryce
this season? 

782
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:42,400
I mean, I feel like they really 
were able to use their advantage

783
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,480
last year and this year. 
Yeah, I, I just feel felt like 

784
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,640
they didn't have that, that 
little explosion that you need 

785
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,240
some somewhere in the middle or 
late order that sort of forgives

786
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,440
your score of more of an 
impetus, especially because I 

787
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,240
think they lost some close 
games, right. 

788
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,840
So that's, that's I think one of
the things that stood out to me 

789
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,600
with DC and I think in the pre 
tournament preview, what we had 

790
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,760
talked about is that basically 
DC's weakness, not specifically 

791
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,880
their battings, actually their 
bowling, their bowlers are good.

792
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,240
They're they're all really 
great. 

793
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,200
Like Minumani had a great 
season. 

794
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,520
Towards the end, not in the 
first half, her first half 

795
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,840
season was not was not good at 
all. 

796
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,600
She came in and I think she 
needed to get Mandanas wicket in

797
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,200
that one game where she came in 
to sort of get her mojo back. 

798
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,040
You know, Sneerana not 
necessarily the best of spinner.

799
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,920
I feel like if you have both 
Minu and Sneer, that doesn't 

800
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,640
really give you a lot of 
flexibility in the middle overs.

801
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080
I don't remember who it was who 
said that they're very spin the 

802
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,920
land in the middle overs 
compared to perhaps RCB. 

803
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,680
So I thought DC were definitely 
a fast bowler shot. 

804
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,680
But Nandini Sharma, a word about
her. 

805
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,920
You, you can start Neha and then
we'll go back round. 

806
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:03,840
Yeah, because I think you could 
just see my face just break into

807
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,160
this white smile, right? 
Nandini Sharma has been 

808
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,280
undoubtedly the fine of the 
season, right? 

809
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,760
For Daily Capitals, at least for
her Stateside, she had been 

810
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,800
doing well with credit to, you 
know, DC scouts for actually 

811
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,600
getting her into the setup. 
She served as a net bowler, you 

812
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,200
know, for some other franchises 
in the past. 

813
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,120
And you know, come this season, 
I think she's been such a 

814
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,520
revelation, right? 
I think one of the very few 

815
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,520
Indian bowlers was able to bowl 
that back of the hand. 

816
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,760
They'll be so beautiful. 
He's able to mix up her pace, 

817
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,080
bowls well up front and later 
too. 

818
00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:36,120
I think she's definitely one to 
watch out for, right Again, 

819
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,640
hasn't been chosen for that. 
Australia too, but you know, 

820
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,680
playing like for India, I think 
she'll largely benefit. 

821
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,040
That experience will come 
through and hopefully she can 

822
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,800
probably stake a claim for a 
place in the team when probably 

823
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,640
the squad is chosen right for 
the T20 World Cup itself. 

824
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,320
She can be that surprise package
because when you look at the 

825
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,440
other paces and how they 
perform, take the likes of 

826
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,360
Ranti, Gautam Kashmir, Gautam 
and all of them, they've 

827
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,480
probably not had that sort of a 
season. 

828
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,680
And I think Nandini Sharma has 
done enough to, you know, sort 

829
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,400
of throw a hat in the ring and 
be like, hey, you know, probably

830
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,720
she can be like, I can be 
considered. 

831
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:11,000
And she definitely has, I think 
a lot in store too. 

832
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,320
I think she was like a massive, 
massive positive. 

833
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,400
And again, it's lovely to see, 
right, like India producing a 

834
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,440
crop of like fast bowlers who 
can actually do a good job. 

835
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,560
It's just to see like how she 
will be continued to like be 

836
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,200
nurtured within the system 
itself. 

837
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,120
And hopefully she goes along 
with like a great start this 

838
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,200
season. 
And very fittingly. 

839
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,520
So it was also, I think about it
like the emerging player of the 

840
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,480
season award too, right? 
Would have been great if she 

841
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,600
could have capped it off with a 
purple cap as well. 

842
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,800
But yeah, we we take wins like 
that. 

843
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Almost Taruta, do you want to 
come in about DC's bowling and 

844
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Nandini Sharma? 
Any words? 

845
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,360
Particularly, she may have 
mentioned this, but the back of 

846
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,960
the handball during the Women's 
World Cup. 

847
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,680
This was a topic that me, 
Cheyenne Pratib, a couple of 

848
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,120
others were part of the coverage
did of Animal Sutherland, how 

849
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,960
she basically decimated the 
entire World Cup with this back 

850
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,440
of the handball during the 
middle overs. 

851
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,480
And obviously Nandi Sharma, not 
at that level yet, but it's 

852
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,360
pretty close. 
Like it's hard to diagnose that 

853
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,760
on the fly when you're playing 
it. 

854
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,720
And she is very, very 
consistent. 

855
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,880
Like she puts the ball where she
wants to put the ball like it 

856
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,560
did start flying all over the 
place. 

857
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,640
She doesn't get flustered if you
get hit for a boundary. 

858
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,720
She wanted, I think how she 
played ball yesterday was a 

859
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:30,600
great example of everyone else 
was just chucking the sink it 

860
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,720
up, including someone like Gab. 
And only time I went, hey, you 

861
00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,680
know what, I'm going to put a 
fielder on deep wicket and I'm 

862
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,720
going to hit your stops. 
And that's all it is. 

863
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160
So the only way you're going to 
score a boundary is by hitting a

864
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,640
deep wicket. 
And that's what Charlie end up 

865
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,040
doing as well. 
And I think, I can't remember 

866
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,960
who got her out, but they got 
her out to that ball. 

867
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,560
And the over before Vol got out,
she hit it to the boundary off 

868
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,920
Nandi Sharma and it had dropped 
between two fielders who got 

869
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,400
confused about who was going to 
catch the ball. 

870
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,840
So and it she did that for four 
overs. 

871
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,240
She didn't get hit by Volt. 
She was the only baser not to 

872
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:06,240
get hit by Volt. 
So it's she knows what she's 

873
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:09,520
doing and she executed really, 
really well, which is very 

874
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,720
impressive for someone that 
young and that fresh to it to 

875
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:15,120
this is a, it's a jump in 
quality to go to the WPL. 

876
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,520
So to do this against the best 
batters in the world alongside 

877
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,800
some of the best bowlers in the 
world. 

878
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,160
And I think there's there's a 
lot of room for improvement 

879
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,440
there, which is kind of crazy 
considering how good she already

880
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,360
is. 
Yeah, like just adding on. 

881
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,360
Sorry, yeah, just adding on to 
Tarutra's point on Nandini, I 

882
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:36,080
think often because of the event
and the stage and all of that, 

883
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,920
you tend to forget some of the 
basics that a lot of players get

884
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,040
right. 
So the accuracy bit is actually 

885
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,520
a huge point because even some 
Indian national, someone like 

886
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,960
Renuka Singh Thakur, who's so 
experienced, one of her biggest 

887
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,000
issues this season was the fact 
that she wasn't consistent with 

888
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,560
her accuracy, right? 
Those in swingers starting on 

889
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,680
middle or middle and leg and 
then just going down for whites.

890
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,120
So keeping that in mind and the 
kind of stage that this is for 

891
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,520
Nandini Sharma on debut to be 
able to pull off that kind of 

892
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,520
accuracy. 
And I think the first time you 

893
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,520
sort of noticed that was also 
when she was bowling to Sophie 

894
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,680
Devine, where Sophie Devine was 
going bonkers in that game where

895
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,680
she scored 90 odd and we thought
we'd finally get a WPL century. 

896
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,840
But Sir Nandini Sharma, the 
clarity of thought in knowing 

897
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,120
that, OK, her slow ball, her 
back of the hand slow balls been

898
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,880
hit. 
So what's her next option? 

899
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,120
She goes for a bouncer. 
She's not afraid of using that 

900
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,640
sort of delivery. 
And I think that clarity is 

901
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,400
already setting her apart from 
so many of the other bowlers. 

902
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,200
Even someone like Kranti Goud 
who's played for India, there's 

903
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,320
still moments you see where if 
she's getting hit, she tends to 

904
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,160
get hit for a lot of which I've 
not seen with Nandini as of this

905
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,240
season at least. 
So I'm. 

906
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,240
I'm going to bring you in Chen 
now, so I'm going to ask you any

907
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,400
any comments you have for DC and
who is the Sansa Stark of DC, 

908
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,800
which means basically who's the 
Queen of the North for DCI? 

909
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,680
Don't know. 
I think it's see. 

910
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,920
With Delhi, I think we talked 
about Nandini Sharma, right? 

911
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,040
What's really been interesting 
to me is that she hasn't even 

912
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,880
taken the new ball that 
consistently, right. 

913
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,360
She has been like this first 
team sort of a bowler, which I 

914
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,240
think make makes her her skills 
even more valuable because you 

915
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,920
get new ball bowlers still. 
But the fact that she can bowl 

916
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,880
in those current situations 
towards closing the power plate 

917
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,720
through the middle overs, 
through the end of the innings, 

918
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,560
I think that's what makes a 
stand out. 

919
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,240
And another very interesting 
standard had looked up actually 

920
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,960
for Delhi while we were having 
this conversation was that in 

921
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,440
the Vadodara Lake, they are the 
only team who have an average 

922
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,000
like north of 30 when it comes 
to power play batting. 

923
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,680
And they were at 45. 
The next, all the other teams 

924
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,080
were at 24/24/20 and 18. 
So something about batting in 

925
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,840
the power play in Vadodara, I 
don't know. 

926
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,040
Delhi seem to have. 
So, yeah. 

927
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,080
And I think I feel like they 
were really good in the fact 

928
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,040
that they were nailing those low
scoring chases, right. 

929
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,440
But in the final, they battered 
first time they put up more than

930
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,000
200. 
So we can't really follow their 

931
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,440
batting all that which at all. 
And if I have to pick a, you 

932
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,480
know, queen of the north from 
the daily capitals, it's 

933
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,840
probably Nandini, right? 
I mean, we probably didn't 

934
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,280
expect that, you know, she's 
going to have this level of an 

935
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,000
impact because we hadn't seen 
much of her at this level. 

936
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,200
And if we have to go with 
perhaps the most established 

937
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,680
stars, I was very much looking 
forward to watch Lizzie Lee, 

938
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,480
right, Because I've said that in
the preview as well. 

939
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,000
With that, you know, she has 
been someone who has absolutely 

940
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,440
dominated the WBVL and 
international cricket. 

941
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,080
She was a six header like she 
was a pioneer when it came to 6 

942
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,720
heading in the women's game. 
So I feel like she had a very 

943
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:39,960
good season. 
Their entire top 4 is very 

944
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,760
interesting to me because of 
very contrasting styles of play.

945
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Like and Pratib and I, we were 
having this discussion yesterday

946
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,920
where when you watch Jamie and 
Blvd. back, there's an element 

947
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,720
of Virat Kohli to it where they 
just minimize their dot balls 

948
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,040
completely. 
They don't, you know, they keep 

949
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,240
taking the singles, double, 
single, double s and they still 

950
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,040
score at a pretty respectable 
run rate, right? 

951
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,400
Yesterday, we can't really fault
either of their, you know, 23345

952
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:04,520
when it comes to the scoring 
rate. 

953
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,320
Honestly, it was just literally 
in the first few overs that also

954
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,680
down to brilliant going from 
Laurenville. 

955
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,320
Not because, you know, it wasn't
that Lizelli lacked intent or 

956
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,480
anything. 
She was trying to move around 

957
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,880
the crease, try to, you know, 
nullify the swing, but it just 

958
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,320
didn't come off for her. 
And when she, I think she, you 

959
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,920
know, became more stable in the 
crease, then she started getting

960
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,520
those boundaries. 
And she also eventually caught 

961
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,280
up to an extent because the 
start she got was pretty bad. 

962
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,360
But after that, you know, it's 
just been a really good season. 

963
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,720
Even Cherani for that matter, 
she was not very good in the 

964
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,280
Navy like, but then she came 
back really strong in the 

965
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,800
Vadodara. 
Like, even Jimmy, when we talk 

966
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,680
about, you know, showing that 
sort of responsibility and, you 

967
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,960
know, not really making, she 
just makes sure that the game is

968
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,400
under control when she is 
batting there. 

969
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:46,920
So I feel like that was a 
really, you know, positive thing

970
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,000
for them that she can do it 
under the captaincy pressure as 

971
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,120
well. 
And yeah, that's very cool. 

972
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,760
OK. 
So do you agree with that 

973
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:04,880
analysis, Nandini as the, I mean
as his answer, no. 

974
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,720
I think if you're going Queen of
the North, it has to. 

975
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:10,120
Be Jimmy, right? 
She's been. 

976
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
She's become so good this 
season. 

977
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Like, she's not been regularly 
good in WPL. 

978
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,200
She's not been regularly good in
WPL. 

979
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,880
This year. 
The first week was not great, 

980
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:25,040
but she's stepped up so much, so
fast that the 50 in the final 

981
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,520
just went, yeah, that's what 
she's supposed to do. 

982
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,160
It's kind of an incredible thing
to just be part of the furniture

983
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,440
that quickly while also figuring
out how to be captain. 

984
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,080
So yeah, I'm still going. 
Jimmy, that's Nandari is great. 

985
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,560
She's awesome. 
Gap is unbelievable. 

986
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,560
Blvd. is top five players, like 
top five favorite players for me

987
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,960
right now in the world. 
But still has to be Jimmy. 

988
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,200
She run that team, so has to be 
her team. 

989
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,720
Neha Pratap, you agree? 
But I think for me it's going to

990
00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:57,800
be a slightly. 
Left field choice here with 

991
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,400
Lizelli, right? 
And the reason I bring her name 

992
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,520
up is I think just coming to the
season itself, a lot of people 

993
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,960
didn't expect her to do well, 
right? 

994
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,240
They think they were thinking 
that no should be found out. 

995
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:10,080
You know, WPL is a very 
different source, you know, in 

996
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,160
comparison to probably the 
domestic cricket she plays in. 

997
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,360
Australia isn't the WBL for that
matter. 

998
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,200
I mean, the fact that she's 
managed to, you know, see the 

999
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,840
place in that Delhi playing 11 
is amongst the highest run 

1000
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,680
getters itself. 
And in spite of all the 

1001
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,040
criticism and scrutiny about the
way she looks itself, I think 

1002
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,320
she's really made that sort of 
an impact, right? 

1003
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,160
I think she's just gone on to 
show then you can look a certain

1004
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,200
way and you can you can still 
actually contribute to the 

1005
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,160
team's cause. 
And I think it's just very, it's

1006
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,760
one of those very uplifting and 
inspiring stories itself. 

1007
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,720
I was hoping she could possibly 
make her come back for South 

1008
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:42,960
Africa as well. 
But now, you know, she has 

1009
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,400
Australian citizenship and she's
entirely, you know, shifted with

1010
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,400
her family there. 
But then I think it's just for 

1011
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,560
me, you know, like the kind of 
season she had for the longest 

1012
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,040
time, I've just wanted her to, 
you know, be a part of the WP in

1013
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,000
some shape, form capacity in 
spite of all the criticism too. 

1014
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,440
But, you know, to see her have 
this sort of a season and the 

1015
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,680
backing that she got from Delhi 
itself, right, was really, 

1016
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,440
really nice to see. 
There's still some areas of the 

1017
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,160
game she needs to work on 
probably, you know, the keeping 

1018
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,080
side of things. 
But again, that comes down to 

1019
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,680
how DC, you know, wants to 
figure out there, you know, 

1020
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,320
keeper conundrum, so to say, 
because Lizelli cannot be your 

1021
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,680
answer for that. 
But as a batter, I wouldn't 

1022
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,680
fault her for anything. 
And like on more occasion she's 

1023
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,200
given them those sort of 
electric starts and quite 

1024
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,480
deservingly, you know, deserves 
to be in that like highest run 

1025
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,480
getters list too. 
My point but I think so this. 

1026
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,120
I'm surprised no one's brought 
up Shafali. 

1027
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,800
I think she had a quiet season, 
right? 

1028
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,320
I think not, Not her usual, but 
I, I feel like she's made a lot 

1029
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,680
of improvements to her game. 
But yeah, but I think you're up.

1030
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,760
And you can also start with your
rating for DC. 

1031
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,240
So this time the rating is out 
of 10. 

1032
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:57,840
And then these slower balls. 
I think DC would be just a shade

1033
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,600
below RCB, so probably 8. 
I gave RCB 8.5, so I think I'd 

1034
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,480
give DC-8 barring possibly the 
first couple of games where I 

1035
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,240
think they were just figuring 
out a lot of things and there 

1036
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:12,560
were a lot of moving pieces. 
Once it settled into the like, 

1037
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,680
once they got past that hectic 
week of a lot of games, very 

1038
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,600
closely back, they were a solid 
team. 

1039
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,080
And I think one of the biggest 
things, so for me, the queen 

1040
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,680
would be Jimmy also for the fact
that she was captain and just 

1041
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,160
the trust factor in the players.
Because if we look at the 

1042
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,720
elevens that they chose, after a
point, there was consistency in 

1043
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,680
the elevens. 
There was no uncertainty in the 

1044
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,800
fact that, OK, maybe this player
is not performed, so I'm going 

1045
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,960
to switch this player out. 
We saw that a fair bit with 

1046
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,960
someone like RCB or some of the 
other sides, but I think Jimmy 

1047
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,640
on a captaincy front was very 
happy to say, OK, I'm going to 

1048
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,640
back you till the end of the 
tournament and we'll see how it 

1049
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,080
goes. 
So overall, I think just a shade

1050
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,400
below RCB 8 is probably what I'd
give them. 

1051
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,600
Yeah, I I would like to cut 1. 
Point for them never playing 

1052
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Alana King throughout the that's
that's. 

1053
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,480
A completely different decision,
guys. 

1054
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,440
We can't have a podcast without 
talking about Lakesman, right? 

1055
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,280
I mean, I can't believe that 
Delhi winter, entire season. 

1056
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,200
Yeah, yeah, I think because. 
In the previews. 

1057
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,680
My thing was that they're going 
to have to pick between Laura 

1058
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,000
and White or Lizelli right 
there. 

1059
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,240
They can't play both of them and
they have to play Alana King. 

1060
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:27,040
But they didn't play Alana King.
I guess we were all wrong. 

1061
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,960
And they didn't give her a 
single game as far as I 

1062
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,760
remember, right. 
It's very interesting because if

1063
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,800
they. 
Managed to pick Elana King 

1064
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,640
somehow. 
Then that would naturally solve 

1065
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,880
your Nikki Prasad problem as 
well because she'd be pushed 

1066
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,720
higher into the order. 
So maybe that's something for 

1067
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:42,520
them to think about next season.
Yeah. 

1068
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,720
Yeah, but who do they drop out 
of? 

1069
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,800
Lazelli and Laura. 
That's a difficult question, 

1070
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,440
right? 
Who's going to keep? 

1071
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:51,680
Depends on that. 
As well. 

1072
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Well, that too. 
Exactly. 

1073
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:55,720
Yeah. 
So if they had. 

1074
00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,440
Sarah Bryce, this wouldn't be a 
problem. 

1075
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,480
No, I'd actually defend. 
DC on this because a lot of 

1076
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:07,680
things great clearly, but you 
need lead to keep you need Blvd.

1077
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,000
and DC's bowling doesn't make 
sense without Henry. 

1078
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,160
So it just there is it just is. 
It's it's crazy that a lot of 

1079
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,880
key keeps getting teams that 
don't pick up. 

1080
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,000
She should come to Bangalore so 
that we can drop off Abuja 

1081
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,560
Vasagar. 
But it's nuts. 

1082
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,840
I don't know if she's clearly 
what top five bowlers in the 

1083
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,200
world right now. 
She was devastating on Indian 

1084
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,480
pitches during the World Cup 3 
months ago. 

1085
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:33,960
I don't know how she doesn't get
picked. 

1086
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,680
But for DC specifically, I 
actually do see the logic. 

1087
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,200
But The funny thing is you. 
Know she might not even start. 

1088
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,200
For RCB if you think about it. 
The thing is, she wasn't even 

1089
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,240
picked in the auction. 
Yeah, I don't know what Betty 

1090
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,520
comes back with his. 
RCB tape. 

1091
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,360
She's too consistent. 
We need more Mavericks. 

1092
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,320
That's true. 
Consistency it's it's for boring

1093
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,560
teams. 
So Speaking of a team that I 

1094
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,080
find personally slightly boring 
compared to the other teams is 

1095
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,840
Gujarat Giants. 
They they finished third. 

1096
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,840
They were in the eliminator. 
I mean, what what is the biggest

1097
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,200
surprise for you about the 
Gujarat Giants this year? 

1098
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,720
Ash Gardner doesn't like 
herself. 

1099
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,200
Sorry Pratap, Go. 
Ahead, Go for it. 

1100
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,760
Go for it. 
It's very annoying to watch. 

1101
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,120
I think she's the first captain 
I've. 

1102
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,680
Seen like, no, I'm not 
interested in bowling like 9 out

1103
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,200
of 10 times. 
I think you've heard experts cry

1104
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,760
about not having bowler captains
because they bowl themselves too

1105
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,160
much. 
And here's Ash Gardner's like, 

1106
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:41,400
no, just keep that ball away 
from me. 

1107
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,320
But honestly, just taking a 
moment, you know, talk about. 

1108
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,520
Gujarat Giants, I think the 
resurgence that they've had 

1109
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,880
under Ash Gardner, I'm Michael 
Slinger, right, has been 

1110
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,720
phenomenal. 
The fact that they're able to, 

1111
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:55,360
you know, make the playoffs, I 
think even just looking at their

1112
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,520
season, right, they started off 
with the bank winning those two 

1113
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,760
matches versus UP and DC, and 
then they faced like 3 

1114
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,240
consecutive losses. 
I think I didn't mention it on 

1115
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,400
another podcast. 
It's really similar to how India

1116
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,080
also, you know, started out 
their World Cup, like winning 

1117
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,960
those matches and then, you 
know, facing 3 losses. 

1118
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,400
And to come back and win those 
three games to, you know, have 

1119
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,080
destiny, destiny in your own 
hands and to seal a place in the

1120
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,760
playoffs, right? 
I think massive credit and I 

1121
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,120
think the biggest surprise for 
Raghujarat was also the 

1122
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,440
performance of Sophie Devine, 
right? 

1123
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,080
A lot of people felt why are you
spending so much money for her? 

1124
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Like, you know, is she like 
given birth? 

1125
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,520
Isn't she past her prime? 
This is Sophie Devine we're 

1126
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,960
talking about. 
The woman ages like fine wine, 

1127
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,560
right? 
Every single time steps up when 

1128
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,640
the team needs it. 
Again, this is not coming from a

1129
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,760
fan perspective. 
Just have a look at numbers this

1130
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,520
time around. 2 right was the 
purple cap holder and you know, 

1131
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,960
contributed so much with the bat
itself. 

1132
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:45,960
Like Gigi is again, such an 
interesting team. 

1133
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,440
I feel like they consistently 
back their Indian uncapped 

1134
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,760
players or sometimes the 
experiment doesn't work but the 

1135
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,200
times it does, right? 
You have someone like an Anushka

1136
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,040
Sharma, you have, you know, a 
Kashmir Gautam, so to say, Bhati

1137
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,440
Fumali too, right? 
Ever since her India colour, I 

1138
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,320
know the performance have just 
like dipped so badly. 

1139
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,080
But then again, she's a player, 
right, that Gigi sort of gave 

1140
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,240
that opportunity to and Kanika 
Hoja too, right, Although she 

1141
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,760
was shuffling a little bit 
across in that batting order, 

1142
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,080
but still right. 
I'd say that Gigi is one team 

1143
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,960
that constantly backs those 
Indian arm cap players and I 

1144
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,440
hope they continue to sort of do
that. 

1145
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,240
But again, man, it's been that 
sort of a season for them. 

1146
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,560
I thought the eliminator they 
were like overwhelming favorite,

1147
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,560
so to say, because although 
Delhi did have that sort of an 

1148
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,880
advantage of, you know, winning,
they had that momentum in their 

1149
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,160
hands. 
But Gigi sort of fluffed and, 

1150
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,680
you know, they lost the plot 
somewhere there. 

1151
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,280
And you could see how the cap, 
the dugout itself had, like, cut

1152
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,640
out a very sorry figure, it 
looked like. 

1153
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,080
So they were just so dejected in
some phases of the match, Right.

1154
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,040
Again, I think experience, we 
will see them do better. 

1155
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:49,280
But you look at RCB, Delhi and 
Mumbai, these are teams that 

1156
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,760
have like a men's equivalent 
team. 

1157
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,200
But Gigi and UP voters don't 
have that cultural heritage or 

1158
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,480
legacy, so to say, Right. 
But the fact that Gigi is able 

1159
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,400
to carve one for itself, I think
speaks volumes. 

1160
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:00,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1161
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,360
And anyone else want to come in?
Yeah, just the point you made 

1162
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,120
about. 
Not being too fascinating with 

1163
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,760
them, I'm actually quite curious
about that because I thought 

1164
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,480
they were very fascinating this 
year. 

1165
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,840
The batting order is very 
interestingly built. 

1166
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,200
It's a couple of runners who 
opened the power play and some 

1167
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,120
of that works for them. 
They've got Ash Garner, who 

1168
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,720
basically comes in a three as 
far as I can remember correctly.

1169
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,000
They've got wired him and 
Fulmali at the bottom having 

1170
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,960
fun, and they both, again, very 
different players. 

1171
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,680
Wired him runs more, Fulmali 
whacks the ball more, but they 

1172
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:37,000
end up playing together. 
It's yeah, yeah, the Divine 

1173
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,160
part. 
Obviously Divine's awesome, 

1174
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,720
especially after that little 
mental health break. 

1175
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,280
She took class here. 
She's come back ridiculously 

1176
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,880
good. 
But yeah, I I'm curious as to 

1177
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,960
why you are not more interested 
in them. 

1178
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,800
They have slightly ugly jerseys 
but apart from that I I think. 

1179
00:58:53,800 --> 00:59:00,520
It's just I couldn't understand.
I couldn't understand what they 

1180
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,320
were. 
I feel like, you know, in term 

1181
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,920
in terms of their batting, I 
felt like they relied a bit too 

1182
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,640
much on having full money come 
in at the end and whack things 

1183
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,840
around a bit. 
And I don't know if, I mean, she

1184
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,440
had done that a few times last 
year, but I don't know if she 

1185
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,200
she was that consistent for 
them. 

1186
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,320
And in terms of their bowling, 
like, I never, I thought they 

1187
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,320
were a little too reliant on 
Sophie Devine coming in at the 

1188
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:33,000
end and scaring the opposition. 
So I didn't quite get I, I 

1189
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,120
didn't quite understand how they
were winning. 

1190
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,280
Like that's, and maybe it's 
perhaps I didn't watch enough of

1191
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,840
their games. 
Those were the only games I 

1192
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,960
ended up missing because they 
weren't on the weekends as much.

1193
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,800
And you know, that might just be
it, But I just couldn't 

1194
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,840
understand what was what got 
them to the eliminator. 

1195
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,760
And perhaps you can you know 
someone can help me understand 

1196
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,120
this? 
Correct me if I'm wrong but. 

1197
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,760
At least with Gujar Giants, they
played their power plays really 

1198
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,720
well, so most teams would have 
one really good bowler like 

1199
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,680
maybe Delhi Capitals and they 
were happy to play out that and 

1200
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,000
then show that they're not 
losing a wicket there and 

1201
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,480
maximizing against the other 
bowlers. 

1202
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,240
I think your point on how maybe 
they might have been leaving too

1203
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,560
much for the finishers or maybe 
too much for certain kinds of 

1204
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,720
players is true. 
But at the same time, I think 

1205
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,120
with the pieces they had 
practically, they made some 

1206
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,000
really good decisions and I feel
like that's what also got them 

1207
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,360
far enough in the tournament. 
And I think Anushka Sharma is 

1208
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,280
also someone to watch out for, 
although this season she's got 

1209
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,440
scores and she looks bloody 
good. 

1210
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,160
Like made through technique or 
her intent or anything. 

1211
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:45,320
But if you'll see, ultimately 
what's happened is she's still 

1212
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,280
taken time. 
So she's played some really 

1213
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,520
amazing books, but you end up 
seeing her get run a ball 

1214
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,920
innings or stuff like that. 
So maybe things like that could 

1215
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,400
have been where, although it 
looks good to the eyes, it's 

1216
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,880
maybe not work for them. 
But there's promising signs for 

1217
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,840
the seasons to come. 
Also, because Anushka Sharma's 

1218
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,840
game itself will expand. 
And I think this is a really 

1219
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,600
good side. 
Beth Mooney is going to be on 

1220
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,720
top and essentially you would 
want her to play the entire 

1221
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:18,200
innings going to be kind of 
player, which is something they 

1222
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,280
also got. 
And so till full Mali was 

1223
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,000
getting those knocks towards the
end of the innings when she was 

1224
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,800
scoring 36 of 19 or knocks like 
that, it was working really 

1225
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,760
well. 
So the moment those pieces went 

1226
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,040
out is when they were possibly 
facing issues. 

1227
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,640
So it's a lot of tweaking that 
they'll have to do, but 

1228
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,080
tactically I think they are a 
stronger side. 

1229
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,440
No, just another point of 
Anushka. 

1230
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,080
Sharma that has nothing to do 
with the cricket. 

1231
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,480
She's a looks like a probably 
cool player, like in the field 

1232
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,120
with her curly hair and the 
glasses. 

1233
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:51,000
This is an ironic comparison, 
but it's kind of Virat Kohli 

1234
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,560
esque of just I'm in there, I'm 
talking some shit. 

1235
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,480
I'm the young person, but I'd 
look great and you all are 

1236
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,240
idiots and let's just keep going
and I'm angry and great and 

1237
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,760
let's go. 
And it's she looks probably 

1238
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,840
cool, especially in those dirty 
orange jerseys. 

1239
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,800
She makes her look good. 
And I'm like, all right, I can. 

1240
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,360
That's a player I can, like, 
compare to a lot of slightly 

1241
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,160
boring players that happen to be
around the league. 

1242
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,320
Yeah, there's just some energy. 
About her and she's also 

1243
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,320
brilliant in the field. 
I think sadly, it cost her her 

1244
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,880
injury, her hand for a couple of
games. 

1245
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,440
But yeah, like definitely 
someone. 

1246
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,640
I'd be surprised if she doesn't 
play India in the next couple of

1247
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,560
years if she's consistent. 
Like it just seems like she's 

1248
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:36,840
made the big stage. 
Any any interesting stats about?

1249
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,800
GG Like perhaps the power play, 
how they boss the power play. 

1250
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,480
Do you have anything? 
Yeah, I think they were by far 

1251
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,000
the best. 
Power play batters, right? 

1252
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,960
Not a bit close. 
They were like 10-15 runs better

1253
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,720
than everyone else on average. 
And they're the only WPL team 

1254
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,840
that likes batting first, right?
That alone is this. 

1255
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,560
That's true that they really 
enjoy batting first. 

1256
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,600
They tend to put up scores that 
are about 10 to 20 runs higher 

1257
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,280
when they're batting first, 
which is rare for the WPL. 

1258
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,320
And I think that's a bit where 
you could slightly see the 

1259
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:15,320
Aussiness, Nash Gardner coming 
up when she chose to bat 1st and

1260
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,080
was happy when other people, 
they went to bat first. 

1261
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,840
They were like, yeah, we'll just
do it and you guys have to catch

1262
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,800
up and it's not my problem in 
the second innings anymore. 

1263
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,480
So I think that was a very 
interesting part about them, 

1264
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,560
Chan. 
Do you want to come in about 

1265
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,400
Gigi? 
Yeah, I think, you know I 

1266
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,920
didn't. 
Particularly rate them that 

1267
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,200
highly coming into the season, 
when I looked at their team and 

1268
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,200
everything, I was like, OK, I, 
I, what I really felt was they 

1269
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,200
were like in one another middle 
order batter in their team. 

1270
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:42,560
I know there was like, obviously
people were talking about 

1271
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,200
Anushka Sharma even before the 
tournament that, you know, she's

1272
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,480
this player who's done really 
well at the domestic level and 

1273
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,600
she is likely to start. 
Everybody had them. 

1274
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,600
Everybody had her in their 
expected line of cricinfo and 

1275
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,440
all. 
So I think we were expecting to 

1276
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,160
see her. 
But what I was thinking is key, 

1277
01:03:56,520 --> 01:04:00,600
You know, Ash Gardner is in at 
#4, Georgia Wareham is in at #5.

1278
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,880
You probably want them a little 
later on. 

1279
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,240
So that one more batter in the 
middle and you have a very 

1280
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,400
strong batting lineup then with 
full Millie also coming towards 

1281
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,360
the end and Kashmir Gautam also 
can, you know, hit a few and 

1282
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,760
score some runs as a #8 sort of 
a batter. 

1283
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,360
So I feel like that one thing, 
one piece I felt was missing. 

1284
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,320
And obviously Sophie Devine, I 
think she's over performed in a 

1285
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,200
sense where she's also done so 
well with the ball. 

1286
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,200
And obviously she's had a 
terrific season with the back 

1287
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,640
two deserving player of the 
tournament for sure. 

1288
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,200
Won them two games, bowling the 
last over, but against the Daily

1289
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:36,440
Capitals once again. 
So that element was there, but I

1290
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,000
don't know for, for some reason,
even I find it a bit hard to 

1291
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,880
follow Gujarat Giants compared 
to the other teams because as 

1292
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,160
you guys said, right, they have 
the other teams, the three teams

1293
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,280
that already have a men's team, 
This thing, right, you naturally

1294
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,920
get a bit more attracted towards
them and you want to see those 

1295
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,200
teams more. 
I don't know, maybe it's just 

1296
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,240
some sort of a subconscious bias
that I have or most of us have 

1297
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,480
maybe. 
But yeah, I with Gigi, I think 

1298
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,000
they also it's the orange 
jerseys. 

1299
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,640
And the jerseys, of course. 
No doubts about that. 

1300
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,440
They they also got Renuka right.
And with Renuka Taruta and I 

1301
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,960
have been having a discussion 
for like a year or something. 

1302
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,840
She is the best bowler in the 
world when she's on it, right? 

1303
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,800
But she is so, so inconsistent. 
She's so high variance there. 

1304
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,200
She can go for 20 wins and one 
over or she can take like 2-3 

1305
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,480
wickets. 
So it's just incredible that and

1306
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,680
it's just that RCB game, which 
you guys remember right, the 

1307
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,760
first ever went for what, 20 
runs and then RCB somehow 

1308
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,160
managed to be 40 or for four. 
It was just a hilarious game to 

1309
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,320
watch and even the final the 
eliminator that they ended up 

1310
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,360
losing right Ash gardeners 
captaincy. 

1311
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,760
You know, maybe in the sense of 
you know, the fact that they 

1312
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,800
were able to come back in in the
season and they finished third 

1313
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,920
quite comfortably right. 
I think we have to give a credit

1314
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:50,120
for that, but at times I felt 
like she was going too much into

1315
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,880
the matchups, which to be fair, 
I think I am a fan of matchups 

1316
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,240
right. 
We need matchups in cricket. 

1317
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,800
We need informed decision making
based on data and you know it 

1318
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,640
has to be a bit more granular 
than just the. 

1319
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,320
You can't go to the right hand 
there with spinners who might be

1320
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,040
worse than that of spinner at a 
given point. 

1321
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,120
Right When we were talking about
Herman Freeze and how openly she

1322
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,160
said that. 
Herman has had the edge over me 

1323
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,720
in international cricket as well
as in the WPL, which she was 

1324
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,360
right about. 
But then the other left hand 

1325
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,000
finger spinners that she was 
talking about, Harman had 

1326
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,840
dominated them even more. 
So would you not just trust the 

1327
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,520
more high quality international 
world? 

1328
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:30,720
That was something which was a 
bit, you know, off putting 

1329
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:33,960
through the season, especially 
in that RCB game, sorry, in that

1330
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,960
Mumbai game and then in the 
Eliminator as well. 

1331
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,800
So I feel like that's something 
which I will not be able to 

1332
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,120
forget that easily. 
And you know, lots of people 

1333
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,520
were saying that Ash Gardner is 
likely to be the next captain 

1334
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,160
now for the Australian team, 
right? 

1335
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,280
But now they didn't give her the
captaincy. 

1336
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:52,400
Maybe, you know, this sort of 
season, I don't know how much of

1337
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,400
A part that played in that, but 
yeah, I feel like that is 

1338
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,480
something she could take a bit 
more charge for the quality of 

1339
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,320
layer that she absolutely is, 
both with that and all. 

1340
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,880
Yeah, that's right, I think. 
Ash Gardner had an interesting 

1341
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,000
season, so I'm going to open 
this up now. 

1342
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,200
I will ask Neha actually and 
then the others, who do you 

1343
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:19,000
think was the Falguni Pathak of 
Gujarat Giants, which is the 

1344
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,400
absolute good? 
I think no doubt here my answer 

1345
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:23,400
is going to. 
Be very obvious. 

1346
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,280
It has to be Sophie Devine, 
right? 

1347
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,360
I think time and again she just 
proves her metal and this season

1348
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,960
was no different. 
Again, adjectives will fall 

1349
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,000
short, you know, sort of 
describe her impact itself. 

1350
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,800
The fact that she's able to 
churn out performances like this

1351
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,520
consistently is something that I
think will augur well, right, 

1352
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,760
considering they've invested in 
her probably for like a 

1353
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,200
three-year cycle itself, right, 
the mega auctions itself and a 

1354
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,040
little bit like you feel you was
a far former RCV player, you 

1355
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,320
know, doing well for another 
franchise. 

1356
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,440
It always, you know, feel nice 
when you see some of your old 

1357
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,480
players do well in that regard. 
And yeah, the fact that, you 

1358
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,800
know, she doesn't play 
international cricket anymore, 

1359
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,840
it's feed up her calendar so 
much more and just handling all 

1360
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,160
of her energy to franchise 
cricket. 

1361
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,000
I think it will just be really 
good for Gigi itself. 

1362
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:12,040
I think in her the speeches, 
right, she did after winning the

1363
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,960
purple cap and that MVP 2, she 
did dimension of the team 

1364
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,240
environment being such and the 
kind of camera she's developed 

1365
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,760
with each of the players too, 
that sort of helped her come up 

1366
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,040
with performances like that's 
just hoping that we get to see a

1367
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:27,000
lot more of that. 
So for me, she definitely has to

1368
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,240
be the very obvious thing for 
this award. 

1369
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,120
Is there agreement? 
From everybody else, yeah, I 

1370
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,760
think it sounds about right. 
My only grouse is. 

1371
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,520
That. 
My only grouse is that Sophie 

1372
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,680
Devine is great all year round 
and Falguni is only required 

1373
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:50,319
during Navratri. 
So just that see this is. 

1374
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:57,560
This is very typical MV. 
So, OK, since since you've come 

1375
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,800
in about this, I will ask you 
what do you think is what do you

1376
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,920
think is Gigi's rating of out of
10 last over finishes by Devine 

1377
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,760
6 1/2? 
That's that's kind of low. 

1378
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:14,000
Interesting. 
I actually have a higher. 

1379
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,479
Than DC, I think just because 
coming into the season, DC had 

1380
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,720
higher expectations and Gigi, I 
mean, you could hear them after 

1381
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,640
they got eliminated. 
It was a positive elimination. 

1382
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,080
But yeah, all right, that 
happens. 

1383
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,479
We'll come back better next 
year. 

1384
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,680
We know each other. 
We know the team. 

1385
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,800
And a little point I want to add
to like, Shine brought up as 

1386
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,840
well, right? 
The top three teams already have

1387
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,680
their followings and they're 
just migrating over. 

1388
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,399
I was talking to one of my 
subscribers today morning who 

1389
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,720
was at the game yesterday and 
has gone for a couple of the 

1390
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,760
games in Vadodara and she's not 
from Gujarat. 

1391
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:45,200
She's flown down there to check 
it out. 

1392
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,720
And she was telling me that it 
is. 

1393
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,720
The games are pretty packed. 
The stands have got, they've got

1394
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,279
RCB fans and DC fans, but 
there's a lot of Gujarat fans. 

1395
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:57,000
There's a lot of local families 
and local women coming in, kids.

1396
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,760
And even she was saying she saw 
a lot of grandmoms coming in 

1397
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,840
like Gujarat giant shirts. 
So it's it is a little unfair to

1398
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:08,240
judge them this early on. 
I think give them 10 years, see 

1399
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:13,680
where they're at in 20-30. 
Do they end up being ironically 

1400
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,760
the DC of the IPL or do they end
up being the RCV, right. 

1401
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,600
Are they the guys who know how 
to market themselves? 

1402
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:24,120
Do they not? 
But yeah, I think this extended 

1403
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,520
run where you say, oh, you're to
play 10 matches and all five 

1404
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,560
teams are going to come and all 
the big players are going to 

1405
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,320
come. 
It has an impact. 

1406
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,640
People want to show up because 
you go. 

1407
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,120
I went for this thing, my friend
went for it. 

1408
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,320
She said it was great. 
So I'm going to go tomorrow and 

1409
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,240
tickets are cheap and it's not 
easy. 

1410
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,240
The stadium is an hour away from
the city because everything in 

1411
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,520
India has to be inconvenient. 
But it is. 

1412
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,280
That's how you build audiences. 
So as much as I hate the fact 

1413
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,120
that Bangalore hasn't had a 
match because RCB decided to 

1414
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,800
kill some people, it's good that
other stadiums get a chance 

1415
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,760
right? 
It's good that Vadodara gets a 

1416
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,400
chance to see cricket and top 
class top class cricket. 

1417
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,560
Especially if you have a team 
that's from the city. 

1418
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,920
Wow, I can't believe I have to 
sidestep. 

1419
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:12,640
That comment and go ahead. 
We we had you on. 

1420
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:15,400
I remember about the the stadium
debacle. 

1421
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:20,240
But yeah, in in the interest of 
time, I'm going to move on to 

1422
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,640
MI. 
So folks, how did MI just reach 

1423
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,880
second last at the table? 
Like we had pretty high hopes 

1424
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,560
from this team. 
They were largely unchanged. 

1425
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,560
They still kept all of their top
all around talent. 

1426
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,200
Like what? 
What for them? 

1427
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:39,880
See, I think from Mumbai it. 
Has to start from the top. 

1428
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,040
Right. 
Their power play, batting, I 

1429
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,680
feel like that was the thing 
that held them back the entire 

1430
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,880
season in some ways. 
And the most interesting thing 

1431
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,760
was that they kept changing 
around it. 

1432
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,560
It's not that they let it go and
they were not like, you know, 

1433
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,080
let's back whoever is there and 
hopefully it comes off. 

1434
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,800
I it felt like they played some 
5-6 different opening bandwidth.

1435
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,160
Correct me if I'm wrong. 
It definitely felt like that. 

1436
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:02,720
I have to go back and look at 
the numbers. 

1437
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,320
But yeah, whatever they tried in
early on, it just didn't seem to

1438
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,240
work. 
Even if you remember the NSB 100

1439
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,600
game, right, they didn't really 
have a particularly blazing 

1440
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,640
start in the power play, right? 
What they managed to do was 

1441
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,240
Haley Matthews didn't get out. 
So that then, you know, really 

1442
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,120
impacted things and then she was
able to build that partnership 

1443
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,560
with that silver Brunt and so 
on. 

1444
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,240
But I feel like apart from that,
Silver Brunt and Herman, Preet 

1445
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:26,440
Kaur with the bat and Sadhana 
Sidhi and I think she had a 

1446
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:28,160
couple of innings once at the 
start. 

1447
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,160
And then there was also that one
partnership between Amelia Kerr 

1448
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,480
and Aman Jodhkar. 
I think in the game where 

1449
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:36,040
against UP where they were 
playing pretty well, I think 

1450
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,440
they were still a bit behind the
game, but they didn't put up a 

1451
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:41,200
bad effort at all. 
They're batting, I feel like 

1452
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,360
they didn't have a lot of 
options. 

1453
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,720
Do you know fall back on it just
kept it just felt like again and

1454
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,160
again it was the same old 
players and that one game right 

1455
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,800
against the Gujarat Giants were 
Herman Pritt again as usual. 

1456
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,840
She always like she's almost 
like Bradman against Gujarat 

1457
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,400
Giants, right. 
She obviously she will always 

1458
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,080
make runs and she'll make high 
impact runs and nobody could 

1459
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:03,080
support her this one time they 
finally lost to them right. 

1460
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,840
So I think it just shows the 
over reliance on those two 

1461
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,560
players who are absolutely class
players. 

1462
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,360
But I don't know, like Mumbai, 
they were the title winners last

1463
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,920
year, then they didn't change 
their team. 

1464
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,920
So I was rating them very highly
coming in. 

1465
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,240
I'm also very confused what 
really went wrong. 

1466
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,000
Yeah, I'm probably just doing a 
dissection. 

1467
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,760
Of Mumbai itself so far, when 
you look at the past three 

1468
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,480
seasons, you've had like a 
certain set of core players, you

1469
01:13:29,480 --> 01:13:31,160
know, who have ensured that 
they've won. 

1470
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:32,960
I feel like Stratsu just found 
out, right? 

1471
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,160
Because the rest of the players 
in that playing 11 just go 

1472
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,440
underutilized because it's just 
like the Aussies players, plus 

1473
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,240
Harun Preet Kaur, who, you know,
do the job for them. 

1474
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:41,640
And yeah, Mumbai is happy 
they've won two titles and all 

1475
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,680
of that. 
But this season, I think because

1476
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,760
of those players, you know, not 
really stepping up as much as 

1477
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,280
they did in the past seasons, it
really came to the fore, right? 

1478
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,160
And the fact that they lost to 
UP Warriors twice in a row, I 

1479
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,920
think that was like the final 
nail in the coffin. 

1480
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,560
Said this is like not being 
disrespectful to UP Warriors. 

1481
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,360
But then I think Mumbai really, 
really lost the plot there 

1482
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,400
because those two losses against
UP Warriors coming back-to-back 

1483
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:05,680
in the span of like 2 days and 
then losing to Delhi as well, it

1484
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,760
really meant things were, you 
know, sort of going out of 

1485
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,920
control. 1 positive definitely 
has to be. 

1486
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,840
I mean, Harmanpreet Kaur, the 
fact that she was in the 

1487
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,600
reckoning for the Orange cap for
like a great chunk of the season

1488
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,320
was scoring runs at will, you 
know, in spite of all the 

1489
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,360
musical chairs experimentation 
that was happening with that, 

1490
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,760
you know, opening door itself, 
like she really emerged as a 

1491
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,520
positive. 
But after a point, it just felt 

1492
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,040
like, you know, things were out 
of Mumbai's control and it 

1493
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:30,600
looked like a very deflated 
unit. 

1494
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:32,880
Herman too, right? 
Usually see her very aggressive 

1495
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,480
in this and that. 
But I think after the World Cup,

1496
01:14:34,480 --> 01:14:36,480
when she's like kind of tempered
down a little bit, you see a 

1497
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,200
very different version of her. 
It's like, you know, there's 

1498
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,280
this whole weight of the world. 
It's off her shoulders. 

1499
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,720
Again, not sure how the players 
inside the setup are reacting to

1500
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,440
Barry was seeing such a calm 
Herman the one time I did see 

1501
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:50,560
her really angry boss, probably 
at a in that RCB game itself or 

1502
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,600
like I'm sure I or was it 
another game? 

1503
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,680
Not sure. 
But All in all, just something 

1504
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,160
really didn't work out well for 
MI. 

1505
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,200
And the fact that, you know, 
like a lot of their frailties 

1506
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,440
did come to the foot. 
I think just meant, you know, 

1507
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:03,720
the season was always going to 
be difficult and things were 

1508
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,360
going to be out of their hand. 
We like. 

1509
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:07,880
It's also a problem of plenty. 
Right. 

1510
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,880
Because you spoke about the core
and how the core is essentially 

1511
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:14,840
all rounder. 
So every player who has who has 

1512
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,800
been a core for them, Amanjot 
Kaur and as we Haley Matthews, 

1513
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,600
they've all been bowlers and 
batters. 

1514
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,000
And because of the fact that 
Haley Matthews was injured to 

1515
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,480
begin with, it sort of send them
in a frenzy because it was not 

1516
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:30,080
their set template that they 
usually start off the season 

1517
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:31,680
with or have throughout the 
season anyways. 

1518
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,800
Interestingly, they anyways 
found Nicola Carey who's going 

1519
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:38,040
to be someone who they're going 
to keep for a while. 

1520
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:42,720
But it's essentially that now 
because of how much a certain 

1521
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,240
players are being utilized or 
under utilized, it dies back in 

1522
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,000
with Nehant Arotha's points as 
well. 

1523
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,280
So yeah, it's it's really 
tricky. 

1524
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:54,000
And because of this, your 
players, if you think about it 

1525
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,760
from a psychological standpoint,
a lot of these players might 

1526
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,320
lose confidence or might not 
feel confident in their 

1527
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,400
abilities because obviously 
you're not going to be as good 

1528
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,360
starting out, especially 
uncapped Indian players as 

1529
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,240
compared to some of these great 
all rounders. 

1530
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,240
So at what point do you get that
opportunity? 

1531
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,520
So even someone like a Kamalini,
she started off the first game 

1532
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,880
was good, she got a decent 
start, and then she kind of 

1533
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,240
faulted off for a couple of 
games. 

1534
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,320
But if you're picking someone 
who's that young and if you've 

1535
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:24,120
given her that kind of 
responsibility, at least, I 

1536
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,440
think even as a management or as
a captain, it sort of becomes 

1537
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:31,920
your duty to at least give them 
one leg so that you can fully 

1538
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,880
either rule them out or just 
give them the entire season. 

1539
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,640
Be like, OK, we understand 
you're just 17 years of age. 

1540
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,360
You're going to take your time 
and you're going to develop. 

1541
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,520
So because what happens now is 
they've dropped coming in mid 

1542
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,000
season, they've possibly faked 
an injury as well. 

1543
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,800
We don't know what the situation
with that is. 

1544
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,080
And so coming even into the next
season, she's she's probably 

1545
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,800
going to question her spot, even
if she has a couple of good 

1546
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,640
innings. 
Is that good enough for her? 

1547
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,800
So it's a lot of this like I 
think it comes down to how they 

1548
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,320
manage their players and it will
also be interesting because 

1549
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,360
their all rounders are also 
becoming are coming closer to 

1550
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,400
the ends of their careers. 
So because of the fact that 

1551
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:12,760
they're investing in newer 
players, Aminder Kaur is an all 

1552
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,720
rounder and all of these. 
So how do you ensure that you're

1553
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:19,080
transitioning properly? 
So that's also another thing. 

1554
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:24,080
Why do they want the same? 
Player to play in both the 

1555
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,960
innings. 
Like I understand, like all 

1556
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,200
rounders, there's a there's a 
huge space for all rounders and 

1557
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:30,720
they have some of the best all 
rounders. 

1558
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:35,400
But it just seems like if you 
lose an all rounder, like you 

1559
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,760
said, it's very difficult to 
fill those shoes, right. 

1560
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,840
It's very difficult to build 
your squad around it. 

1561
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,080
So Hayley Matthews, they really 
missed her. 

1562
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,720
It upset the balance of the team
when they didn't have her. 

1563
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,520
You know, a word on their all 
rounders. 

1564
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:54,080
Anyone else wants to come in? 
I mean, it's like you. 

1565
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:58,520
Said right, the women's game is 
still at the point where 100 and

1566
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,480
8200 is considered a good score.
So all rounders are a useful 

1567
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,000
thing to have where you don't 
even have complete specialists. 

1568
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,920
And it doesn't help that they're
all rounders are also 

1569
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,280
specialists. 
Like NSB is top 10 batters, top 

1570
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,040
five batters in the world. 
Amila Kurt is the best spinner 

1571
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,240
in the world in my opinion. 
At least top three. 

1572
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,800
I don't think anyone disagree 
with that. 

1573
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:23,320
Hailey Matthews, same thing up 
there, Top five all rounders in 

1574
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,280
the world for sure, but top five
batters also, I would argue top 

1575
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:29,640
five bowlers from an all rounder
perspective. 

1576
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,520
So it's not like they're taking 
bits and pieces places and 

1577
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,320
saying, oh, you've got to do 
everything on both ends of the 

1578
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:35,440
ball. 
They're taking the best all 

1579
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:38,320
rounders and shoving them in. 
And as Pratham said, they had 

1580
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,880
the problem of too many all 
rounders, right? 

1581
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,600
It's not like they could play 
all five of their overseas 

1582
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,440
players. 
They would have, I had a lot of 

1583
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:48,320
different problems, right? 
I think Neha wrote a piece for 

1584
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:51,120
us in the season about how they 
kept persisting with Sajna at 

1585
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,080
the top, which was just made no 
sense. 

1586
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,960
So she's not an opener, she's a 
finisher. 

1587
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,800
You can't ask her to open. 
She also made a point earlier in

1588
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,920
this podcast about how the other
teams, the good teams use their 

1589
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,800
local players. 
Am I just didn't? 

1590
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,680
And I think that's a shift that 
we've not talked about on the 

1591
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:11,640
spot in this season, whatever of
how the tactic of using your 

1592
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,160
local players has become far 
more important versus Mumbai had

1593
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,600
largely won and even RCB in 
20241 off the back of their 

1594
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,600
foreign players and one or two 
Indian players. 

1595
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,520
So that tactically shifted. 
But all that being said, I think

1596
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,880
the simplest answer for why Mia 
lost is that you don't drop 

1597
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,760
Ismail. 
The moment they dropped Ismail, 

1598
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,400
it throws off your entire team. 
You cannot drop the best bowler 

1599
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,960
in the WPL. 
It just it's not close. 

1600
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,920
Like it's not. 
I would compare it to RCB 

1601
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,200
dropping Bell but Ismail is 
better. 

1602
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,160
Like it's not. 
You just don't drop as well. 

1603
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:50,800
It's pure karma at that point. 
They also dropped Kerr once. 

1604
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,160
For a game in Vadodara, not less
so. 

1605
01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:01,920
My God, I couldn't believe it. 
So Dan, you wanna make a quick 

1606
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,160
note about MI and then we can go
to the ratings. 

1607
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,520
Yeah, I think I feel like 
another. 

1608
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,920
Interesting thing for them was 
that Hayley Matthews was a very 

1609
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:10,400
impactful power play bowler for 
them. 

1610
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,360
If we go back and look at the 
last three seasons. 

1611
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:14,120
Right. 
So I just have the numbers in 

1612
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,480
front of me. 
She had taken 16 wickets in 

1613
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:20,960
what, 42 overs? 
No, not even 4232 overs. 

1614
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,600
Yeah, exactly. 
So in 32 overs in the power play

1615
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,760
in the last three seasons she 
had taken 16 wickets and only in

1616
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,040
the last season she went for a 
few runs, she went for ten runs 

1617
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,000
and over. 
But before that her economy was 

1618
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,040
6.44 and 5.7. 
Now this season she only bowls 

1619
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,400
in the power play in three 
innings and she goes for three 

1620
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,640
for 56 and five overs. 
So I feel like that is one place

1621
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,960
where it is a bit of a 
difference because I think an 

1622
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,040
off spinner giving you some 
overs in the power play, that 

1623
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,560
was a pretty handy thing that 
they had and she could also hold

1624
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,320
those random bounces out of 
nowhere, right? 

1625
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,920
So I feel like maybe her not 
performing to the level that she

1626
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,640
was in the previous seasons 
played a bit of a role, 

1627
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,600
especially when we're talking 
about the all rounder. 

1628
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,120
Then another thing that we've 
mentioned before is that Amelia 

1629
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,960
Curse batting has regressed a 
bit, right? 

1630
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,320
And they decided to throw her 
and open throw her to open the 

1631
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,200
innings right. 
And that didn't seem to work at 

1632
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,520
all because she was she just 
kept dotting up. 

1633
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,840
She it was not really, I feel 
like her thing. 

1634
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,920
And we've seen her decline in 
even in the ODIs in women's 

1635
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:19,880
cricket, right. 
You can see that her strikers 

1636
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:21,280
are not really at the same level
anymore. 

1637
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:24,280
She's not that same quality of a
batter perhaps that she was 

1638
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,880
when, you know, I think when she
made that double 100 when she 

1639
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,000
was like, what, 17 or 18 years 
old and everybody was, you know,

1640
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,760
very excited that oh, she she's 
going to be an absolute 

1641
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,000
superstar, which should be fair.
She is, she is one of the best 

1642
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,200
players in the world even now, 
especially with the ball. 

1643
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,440
Undoubtedly I agree with the 
rutor now you know, she's the 

1644
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:43,120
best spinner in the world, but 
her batting not holding up as 

1645
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:45,400
well. 
Perhaps it just what all this 

1646
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,120
did was it caused balance issues
for them. 

1647
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,200
Like to the point that says they
had to drop 7 in this smile, 

1648
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:51,560
which doesn't really make any 
sense. 

1649
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,240
And they essentially had five 
very good overseas options. 

1650
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,000
They just had to keep picking 
between those and I feel like 

1651
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,680
those run up for best of 
cricket. 

1652
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,320
He did a very good piece 
actually on their all rounders 

1653
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,800
and he was, you know, sort of 
computing their impact and 

1654
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,520
everything. 
I think if somebody wants to 

1655
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,080
read about the all rounders and 
their impact for maintenance, 

1656
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:10,400
that's a really good place to 
start. 

1657
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,200
I'm gonna bring you in, Pratik. 
What do you think was? 

1658
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,160
MI's rating out of 10 Amila Kurt
leg bricks. 

1659
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:24,560
It was a bit of a googly. 
To be fair, probably give it 5-5

1660
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,560
or six. 
I mean, with that squad, if 

1661
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,680
you're not winning the WPL, it 
is a bit of a shocker. 

1662
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,280
So yeah, five, yeah. 
Do you think? 

1663
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,200
The game is just progressed 
beyond MI's current, you know, 

1664
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,800
strategy in terms of how they 
build their team. 

1665
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,880
If you look at. 
Friends and how women's 

1666
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,440
treatment is have progressed. 
You can definitely start to see 

1667
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:52,080
that scores are getting bigger 
and if anything, all rounders 

1668
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,360
make a lot more sense now. 
So I won't say it's probably 

1669
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,400
just a template thing and a 
confusion thing because every 

1670
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,760
team would love to have the 
luxury of the kind of all 

1671
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,920
rounders that home Indians has. 
Another thing is also maybe 

1672
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,920
they're not the most explosive 
set of all rounders. 

1673
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,760
Like, would you rather trade one
of the all rounders with someone

1674
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:16,320
who can really dunk the ball 
because there is no designated 

1675
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,000
finisher? 
Like everyone can come in and 

1676
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,360
possibly do a job, but do you 
have someone like Richard Bush? 

1677
01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:24,320
That's just something that I can
think of at the moment. 

1678
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,320
Of course, you have natural 
Brand who can really go for it. 

1679
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,640
You have Hailey Matthews who 
can. 

1680
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:34,480
So yeah, it's a tricky one, but 
still all rounder supreme for 

1681
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,760
me. 
I think it's AI think it's a 

1682
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,320
valid. 
Point but you shouldn't 

1683
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,640
discount. 
Am I just randomly getting the 

1684
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,160
best all rounder in an auction 
with nobody else bidding for 

1685
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,320
them? 
Like it'll just suddenly happen?

1686
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,720
I had a question about who is 
the. 

1687
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,440
Neeta Bhabhi. 
Sorry, the Wall Street bet of 

1688
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:59,360
the team? 
I think so. 

1689
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,640
What's who's the greatest Wall 
Street bet in this in this team?

1690
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:08,760
I'm going to say Kamalini. 
Purely for the fact that they're

1691
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,960
gonna stick with her for the 
long run. 

1692
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,680
You're talking about whose stock
is low right now that we. 

1693
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,400
Think is gonna go up someone 
whose stock is low? 

1694
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,080
Yeah. 
We can interpret it this way. 

1695
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,360
I'll probably take this one and 
go with. 

1696
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,400
Vaishnavi Sharma, right, coming 
in as a replacement late in the 

1697
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,360
season. 
I know we didn't see a lot of 

1698
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,280
exploits with the ball for her, 
but I think she's definitely one

1699
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,640
for the future, right? 
A very interesting signing there

1700
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:34,640
that didn't happen mid season. 
And the fact that she's been 

1701
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:37,120
doing well, right, right through
age group cricket, you know, in 

1702
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,560
domestic cricket as well as an 
under 19 champion too. 

1703
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,720
I think like in the Mumbai 
stable, she will like grow and 

1704
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:47,080
develop a lot, will pay for 
India also for a lot of yours, 

1705
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:48,720
right? 
So I think she's one investment.

1706
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,640
You know, that the season 
probably we didn't see a lot, 

1707
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,080
but going ahead has a lot of 
potential. 

1708
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:59,040
Yeah, that's right. 
OK, let's go to the the team 

1709
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,320
that's at the bottom of the 
table for the second collective 

1710
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,600
here. 
They're yes, bad shit, crazy. 

1711
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,800
I don't know what else to talk 
about this team, the UP Warriors

1712
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,520
guys, what what are they doing? 
What's what's going on here? 

1713
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:19,280
And they accidentally built. 
A slightly average ODIDI don't 

1714
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:24,200
really know what this foster 
construction is if none of it 

1715
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,360
makes. 
Sense like to. 

1716
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,640
You know Indian marquee players 
at the old and Deepti who are 

1717
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,960
good players, but they are ODI 
players. 

1718
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,760
And there are some people who 
tell you the old is not even an 

1719
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:36,320
ODI player. 
Some people on this podcast who 

1720
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,440
have fought with a lot and I 
don't. 

1721
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,240
Yeah, I think that's the basic 
thing. 

1722
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:46,520
I don't know what this team is. 
01 point that we should make 

1723
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:51,360
that really stands out is 
Eccleston has been terrible. 

1724
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:57,800
Like, for someone who was widely
credited as the best bowler, 

1725
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,840
forget spinner, the best bowler 
in the world, truly terrible. 

1726
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,760
And if you look at the stats 
year on year, first year was 

1727
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:05,840
incredible, right? 
It was the Eccleston we all 

1728
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,600
expect. 
It's been declining quite 

1729
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,000
rapidly, both her wicket taking 
and her economy and I think she 

1730
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,760
covered it up a little bit last 
year with some batting 

1731
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:19,120
performances down the order. 
But the bowling has become not 

1732
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,800
just average, come below 
average, but you can't bowl or 4

1733
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:25,200
overs a game. 
So I think that's a big one that

1734
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,720
they've missed on or she's 
missed on. 

1735
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:27,600
I don't know what's happening 
then. 

1736
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,120
Maybe it's just a bad year, but 
the rest of the team doesn't 

1737
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,240
make sense. 
I don't. 

1738
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,120
It feels like they're short on 
everything. 

1739
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:34,960
I don't know how you manage 
that. 

1740
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:36,360
Shikha Pandey. 
What? 

1741
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,840
2.4 crores for Shikha Pandey. 
What was the point of that? 

1742
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:41,360
Like you can. 
It's just yeah, I don't 

1743
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:44,320
understand this team at all. 
And I think when you look at UV 

1744
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,120
Warriors. 
Itself a. 

1745
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,920
Lot can also be attributed to 
their auction strategy itself, 

1746
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,680
right you're trying to build an 
entire squad around Shweta 

1747
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:52,160
Sherawat. 
Now, again, you're taking a punt

1748
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:54,560
on a massive player. 
Like, honestly, it didn't make 

1749
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,360
that much sense. 
Like, obviously Shweta Sherawat 

1750
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,600
does have potential, but trying 
to build a squad around her, 

1751
01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:01,080
it's not actually that marquee 
or, you know, some player that, 

1752
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,640
you know, team, the senior team 
hasn't taken into account. 

1753
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:08,120
And even with Abhishek Nayar, 
right, I felt like most of the 

1754
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,880
time when he's addressing, you 
know, the journals in press 

1755
01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:13,160
conferences, he just seem like 
clueless, right? 

1756
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,560
He's like, I'm not able to 
pinpoint like, what went wrong 

1757
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,080
for UP Warriors. 
We as armchair critics are able 

1758
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,160
to do that, but you as a coach 
are not. 

1759
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:21,840
I don't know. 
I just found it extremely 

1760
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,560
baffling. 
And you're not taking 

1761
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,080
accountability for that. 
Probably the highest for UP 

1762
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,600
Warriors this season was the 
fact that they were able to get 

1763
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,520
those wins against, you know, 
already struggling Mumbai 

1764
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,440
Indians unit. 
And I think the other thing that

1765
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:36,320
UP Warriors thought was the 
moment you have someone like a 

1766
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:37,760
Meg Lanning, you're going to 
start winning. 

1767
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,880
But again, what are the rest of 
the other ten players going to 

1768
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,680
do, right? 
Meg Lanning alone cannot win new

1769
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,600
games. 
Abhishek Nair also brought in 

1770
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:48,680
this point of he felt that the 
campaign went like a little all 

1771
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,160
over the place after they lost a
Phoebe Litchfield itself. 

1772
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,080
Like, again, how could you just 
take one player and be like how 

1773
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,000
the moment she, you know, was 
injured, our campaign just went 

1774
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,720
into jeopardy. 
I'm not sure how these are like 

1775
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,360
logical reasons in that sense. 
I felt like the score 

1776
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,480
construction was still better 
than their previous season. 

1777
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:06,880
They had like, you know, a sense
of like bowling. 

1778
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,720
There was there was some bowlers
that he would actually look at 

1779
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,280
and be like, oh, this is what 
constitutes their bowling. 

1780
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,280
But All in all, it just I don't 
know, like the some of all parts

1781
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,760
just didn't add up for them and 
a very, very forgettable season 

1782
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,280
wouldn't spoon holders yet 
again, the kind of initiatives 

1783
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:23,560
that up Boris does off the 
field, you know, sometimes 

1784
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,120
really captures my attention 
more more than their on field 

1785
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,000
exploits. 
Again, not to be disrespectful 

1786
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,640
but I hope they take a lot of 
learnings from the season and 

1787
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,520
Abhishek Nair as the coach who 
himself admitted that he hasn't 

1788
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:39,200
worked with women's teams in the
past and has no idea, can get 

1789
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,000
some insight from the season 
first hand itself. 

1790
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,320
Kratik, do you wanna come in? 
Who? 

1791
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:48,560
The UP worries. 
Has been an interesting season, 

1792
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,480
I think up top with Kiran 
Navgiri just not firing in any 

1793
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:55,240
game at all. 
That's pretty sad. 

1794
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,520
And and she's she's someone 
who's had the reputation of 

1795
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,520
being such an explosive player 
in the domestic circuit. 

1796
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,040
She's broken records of all 
types. 

1797
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:06,240
So right from the top, that's 
something that didn't work. 

1798
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:09,320
And you're losing Litchfield 
halfway through the tournament 

1799
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:10,720
is also something to think 
about. 

1800
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,560
But even more interestingly, 
when their opening combination 

1801
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:18,680
with Navgiri at least was not 
working and they tried the over,

1802
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,600
they tried DP Sharma. 
Why not just have Lichfield open

1803
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,480
the batting? 
It's it's something she's done 

1804
01:29:23,480 --> 01:29:26,800
in the ODI World Cup. 
She has a fellow Australian on 

1805
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,240
the other side. 
It would have complemented 

1806
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,560
Lanning style of play, where 
Lanning likes to take a little 

1807
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:35,160
bit of time and bat through 
again the entire innings, be an 

1808
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,960
anchor. 
And Lichfield, you know, is 

1809
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:40,440
going to explode anyway. 
So I feel like those are some 

1810
01:29:40,440 --> 01:29:43,880
really basic things that they 
could have done so much better. 

1811
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,120
Push Navgiri down to where she 
was a lot more comfortable, 

1812
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:49,200
possibly have her come in as a 
finisher even. 

1813
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:53,520
So the biggest disappointment is
that because if you look at the 

1814
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,880
power players, they've somehow 
managed to be the team that has 

1815
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,520
lost the least wickets in the 
power play period. 

1816
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,080
But it doesn't help because they
barely strike at anything. 

1817
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:06,440
So right from the start, if 
you're not setting the tone 

1818
01:30:06,440 --> 01:30:09,080
well, and even Shikha Pandey 
with the ball, for example, 

1819
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:13,200
you've spent so many of your 
team's resources on getting this

1820
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,560
one player. 
And when she doesn't fire, it 

1821
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:19,200
suddenly becomes a huge issue. 
So it's some of these things. 

1822
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,560
Yeah. 
See Shan with the UP. 

1823
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,960
Warriors. 
I feel like it's a bit 

1824
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:24,560
interesting. 
Because coming into the season, 

1825
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,840
I, I was somehow rating them 
very highly because I thought 

1826
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,440
they had lots of players in 
different roles and specifically

1827
01:30:30,440 --> 01:30:33,360
their spin bowling, I thought 
that it is possibly going to be 

1828
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,080
a game changer. 
But right now, if we just look 

1829
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:39,200
at the numbers, their spinners 
average 37.5, which is the worst

1830
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,080
in the league. 
And they had an economy of 8.7, 

1831
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,520
which is sort of middle of the 
table. 

1832
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,080
But you know, their spinners are
just not taking any wickets. 

1833
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,480
And it's not like they were 
stopping the runs or, you know, 

1834
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:52,520
having an impact in terms of 
being more conservative with the

1835
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,400
ball. 
That did not happen. 

1836
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,320
So one thing was that spinners 
completely fell apart. 

1837
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:00,200
They had a Christian, they had 
Chloe Tran, they had Deepti 

1838
01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:02,520
Sharma, I mean they had Pasha 
Subhan. 

1839
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,240
I thought they had so many 
options would why are they going

1840
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:09,760
to be a they have, they have, 
you know, spin bowling choices 

1841
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,320
with them. 
And then when we talk about the 

1842
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,760
batting, I felt that, you know, 
if Navgiri can give those high, 

1843
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,560
high intensity quick starts that
we know that she has the 

1844
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:20,160
capability to do right, a bit 
like Shefali perhaps. 

1845
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,080
So I was thinking that could, 
you know, work really well for 

1846
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,360
them at the start with Lichfield
coming in at #3 or even #4. 

1847
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,800
So I think Navgiri completely 
not performing, I think has, you

1848
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:31,760
know, played a big role in this 
and their spinners 

1849
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,920
underperforming because I don't,
I think completely agree with 

1850
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,080
the other panel members here who
completely didn't seem to rate 

1851
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:40,880
UP all that much. 
I I just felt that OK, they have

1852
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,720
lots of different players in 
various roles who, you know, can

1853
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,840
do a good job. 
And Litchfield, we know, is a 

1854
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,680
very, you know, the sort of 
player who can be really 

1855
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:53,080
impactful in the power play, but
also because of the variety of 

1856
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:55,160
shots that she has, she's also 
really impactful through the 

1857
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,880
middle overs. 
I thought that even if, you 

1858
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,160
know, she could take up a #4 
role that could have, you know, 

1859
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:03,280
played a bit of a part in, you 
know, stabilizing their middle 

1860
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,360
order a bit with Nogarian lining
doing well in the Parkway. 

1861
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,840
But that clearly did not happen.
Of course, that hardly in the 

1862
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,360
old slash Pradika Raval role 
Pradika, of course, in play a 

1863
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,720
part in the tournament at all, 
But that was one number three. 

1864
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,960
I was also a bit, you know, 
shaky about OK, that's a bit too

1865
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,600
slow for T 20s, you know, but 
and hardly still, you know, I've

1866
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:25,680
managed to win them a game to be
fair to her, but I I don't know,

1867
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,160
dude, I honestly can't 
understand. 

1868
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,400
Even Shikha Pandey. 
If you look at her season, some 

1869
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:31,840
of her spells were really good, 
but then the other spells she 

1870
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,040
went for a lot of friends. 
It was very, very high variance 

1871
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,560
from her, which is usually not 
what you would associate from 

1872
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,480
her. 
I guess you probably think she's

1873
01:32:38,480 --> 01:32:41,520
going to be a more reliable and 
more consistent bowler, at least

1874
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,040
from what we've seen with the 
daily capitals. 

1875
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:46,880
Her partnership with Marizan cap
up top that again, none of that 

1876
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:48,120
just nothing seemed to work for 
you. 

1877
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,240
The only thing that I should do 
was defeat Mumbai. 

1878
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,040
I guess they defeated Mumbai 
both times. 

1879
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,200
That's true. 
Another thing, Shane, I mean, 

1880
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:03,360
this is maybe digressing a 
little bit, but with UP Warriors

1881
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,360
and just rating them even at the
start of the season, if you look

1882
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,120
at all of the other franchise 
teams, I would say they have 

1883
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:14,960
Indian players who are already 
with some kind of reputation in 

1884
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,920
the T20 format. 
Whereas if you look at the UP 

1885
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:19,680
Warriors, even that's a 
beautiful miss, right? 

1886
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,920
Because Shika Pandey, all right,
she's the only one who you can 

1887
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,520
somewhat say because of the 
tracker code that she's had that

1888
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,040
she's also can be a good T20 
bowler. 

1889
01:33:28,440 --> 01:33:31,280
Whereas if you look at the rest 
of the lineup, no one really 

1890
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,560
like hardly they will get an 
upgrade you can say to a degree,

1891
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,960
but they don't really have that 
stand out Indian player. 

1892
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:40,520
Also, I think even can be if we 
talk about their overseas 

1893
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:41,880
players for that matter, 
Deandra. 

1894
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:44,200
Dot and I don't think she had 
that level of impact, so they 

1895
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:45,240
eventually ended up dropping 
her. 

1896
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,600
They tried Chloe try and I think
that didn't really work for them

1897
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:49,560
either. 
So I don't know. 

1898
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:54,360
I thought they had the tools to 
be at least, I don't know, maybe

1899
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,800
when I was comparing them face 
by face, maybe I overrated them 

1900
01:33:56,800 --> 01:33:59,520
for some reason. 
But I, I very clearly remember 

1901
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:02,400
talking to Deepak, we had like 2
big podcasts and we were like 

1902
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,760
very bullish on up that no, 
they're looking like a serious 

1903
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:06,600
team this time. 
They're going to do something 

1904
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,120
and Lanning is there. 
And maybe with Abhishek Nair it 

1905
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,280
will work out. 
But now Abhishek Nair himself 

1906
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:13,560
admits that, you know, women's 
wicket is a completely different

1907
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:16,360
ball game for him as well. 
And he, I'm sure he would have 

1908
01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,000
learned a lot during the course 
of this season. 

1909
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,640
But yeah, I think they have been
the perennial wooden spoon team 

1910
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:23,360
of the IPL, of the WPL in some 
ways, isn't it? 

1911
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:25,880
Is it not? 
Also, yeah, I think. 

1912
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,040
Go ahead there. 
I was just going to say there 

1913
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,280
has. 
To be something wrong in the 

1914
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,000
water here because you can't 
have leg landing as your 

1915
01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:39,200
captain, who is very, I think 
unequivocally a good captain, 

1916
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,120
There's not really a way to 
debate that. 

1917
01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:46,520
And everyone is worse, right? 
There were two great South 

1918
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:47,880
African finishers from the World
Cup. 

1919
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,560
Raymond Clerk has carried a form
on Claire. 

1920
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:52,640
Chloe Ryan has been completely 
invisible. 

1921
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,560
The, the, the old had one game 
basically, which was telling 

1922
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:00,680
Abhishek Naya to go find 
himself. 

1923
01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:05,840
But there's, there's not, 
there's no inspiration in this 

1924
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,360
team. 
Everyone just seems to be going.

1925
01:35:07,560 --> 01:35:10,520
So we have one month to get over
it and move on, right? 

1926
01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:13,720
And you can talk about analytics
and you can talk about how do 

1927
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:15,720
you buy a team and how do you 
spend it? 

1928
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:17,440
How do you choose A-Team and all
that stuff. 

1929
01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:21,160
But beyond landing in 
Litchfield, no one really seemed

1930
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:25,920
to show off this season, right? 
It's maybe they just all, I 

1931
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:29,360
don't know what it is because 
we've are covering a sport that 

1932
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:31,400
doesn't, like tell its fans 
anything about itself. 

1933
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:33,480
So we don't know what's going on
in the locker room. 

1934
01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:37,240
But it doesn't, it feels broken.
It feels like when your body 

1935
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,080
tells you that he's got this 
great job at a startup, but then

1936
01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:42,080
they make you work 25 hours a 
day. 

1937
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,200
So he's broken his spirit. 
Like, it just feels broken. 

1938
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:53,600
It's a very Bangalore reference.
You know what, I kind of agree 

1939
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,360
with Cheyenne. 
Like we also rated them highly. 

1940
01:35:57,360 --> 01:35:59,840
I thought they were very 
exciting upfront because that 

1941
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:04,920
spin line up along with, you 
know, Kiran Navgiri's domestic 

1942
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:08,080
form, I thought, you know, we'll
see some fireworks up, but that 

1943
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:13,160
just did not manifest itself. 
And their wicket keeper like 

1944
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,400
what what was what is going on 
with their wicket keeping? 

1945
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:20,120
What the hell is that? 
Then they didn't play who I 

1946
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,000
thought who would be the most 
exciting player this season, 

1947
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:26,400
which was Gunghari Trisha. 
Like I really wanted them to 

1948
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,720
play her, at least try her out 
if you know, if they got rid of 

1949
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,840
Kiran Navkira at some point, I 
don't know. 

1950
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:40,200
So let's talk about UP in terms 
of who was the best player for 

1951
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:43,800
UP, who is the UP cheeseburger 
of the team? 

1952
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,040
And if you don't understand that
reference, you have to listen to

1953
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,400
our WPL preview UP. 
Cheeseburger is a choice. 

1954
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:53,360
Lanning has to be Lanning, 
right? 

1955
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:54,280
She's the only one who showed 
up. 

1956
01:36:54,920 --> 01:36:56,680
I mean, Litchfield, too, but 
Lanning was there the entire 

1957
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,000
season, so I think she gets a 
nod. 

1958
01:36:58,680 --> 01:37:00,280
Yeah, I think for me it has to 
be. 

1959
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:04,160
Phoebe Litchfield, I mean, the 
fact that, you know, she missed 

1960
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:06,600
out the rest of the season but 
still finds herself in the top 

1961
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,480
run getters list at that number 
11 position. 

1962
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,520
I think she just played such an 
exciting brand of T20 cricket, 

1963
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:17,400
such a refreshing sign and 
definitely a future like 

1964
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,600
superstar for Australia if she 
already isn't one that I hope 

1965
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,560
they continue to retain her, 
give her that backing here at UV

1966
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,720
Warriors and she can, you know, 
eventually turn their fortunes 

1967
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,160
around. 
But for me, I think she has to 

1968
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,280
be a player to watch out for and
a big, big positive. 

1969
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,760
Yeah, I get it. 
What about the rating? 

1970
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:40,520
So out of 10 Meg lining starts 
what is the What is UP Warriors 

1971
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:46,920
rating -32. 13 is 30. 
I. 

1972
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:55,280
Don't know anything about this 
team and this for three years. 

1973
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:59,800
That's true, I think. 
I'm specifically disappointed in

1974
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:04,600
that Abhishek Nayar thought that
he could just waltz into like a 

1975
01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:08,400
women's team and just do what it
does for men's teams. 

1976
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,400
And I'm like, what? 
It's it's a completely different

1977
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,760
sport at this point of time. 
But yeah, I think that the team 

1978
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,320
chemistry just wasn't there for 
some reason. 

1979
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:21,120
Like it that the thing that 
holds the team together, it was 

1980
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:23,960
missing. 
And yeah, I think that's all you

1981
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:28,480
can say about up Warrior season 
and forced to retire out. 

1982
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:35,960
Also, just strange, some strange
tactics. 

1983
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:41,200
All right, so just overall WPL 
impressions. 

1984
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,200
Who is the most improved player 
from last year's WPL? 

1985
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,440
Probably has to be Litchfield, 
right? 

1986
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:49,640
Because. 
For some weird reason, she was 

1987
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,480
not really dominating the WPL, 
but now this season she had an 

1988
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:55,880
average of 14. 
The striker of more than 150 

1989
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:58,440
played just six innings. 
But like, absolute blockbuster 

1990
01:38:58,440 --> 01:39:00,560
stuff from her. 
I mean, I think she is perhaps 

1991
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,640
the most exciting player to 
watch in the women's game right 

1992
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,240
now. 
If you have to tell a casualty, 

1993
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,480
just get into the sport. 
She is the player you want to 

1994
01:39:06,480 --> 01:39:08,560
watch because she can access the
whole ground. 

1995
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,000
And she's also a very sensible 
player, but also a very exciting

1996
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,160
player at the same time. 
And she clearly thinks about a 

1997
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,000
game. 
You can tell that, you know, she

1998
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:17,560
has those cricketing smarts with
her as well. 

1999
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:20,560
It's not because sometimes you 
see when these players who are 

2000
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:23,240
very talented, they can tend to 
lose their way a bit. 

2001
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,760
Maybe they're not sometimes very
smart about their decision 

2002
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,720
making. 
But I think she's bang on with 

2003
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,480
when it comes to that and 
improvement for sure. 

2004
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:33,080
I mean, since that World Cup, 
she's just been like a next 

2005
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,120
level player too, for sure, 
right? 

2006
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:39,320
And so who? 
Is the total of the WPL which 

2007
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:41,320
means who carries their team on 
their back? 

2008
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,960
I think it has to be Nats of a 
brunt, right? 

2009
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:47,400
For Mumbai Indians, the fact 
that she continues to do it like

2010
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,440
season after season, deservingly
so, right was the 1st century of

2011
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,840
the WPN, at least for me. 
She's like right up there. 

2012
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:56,040
I'm not sure how we didn't, you 
know, speak about her and how 

2013
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,960
single handedly, you know, she's
been chipping in with the bat 

2014
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,120
and the ball, albeit a little 
expensive with the ball, but at 

2015
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,200
least with the bat, right? 
I think she's had that sort of a

2016
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,760
season. 
And I think for me, literally 

2017
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:09,400
carrying the team on her back 
itself. 

2018
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:11,720
Can you say she carried them 
when they? 

2019
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:12,800
Didn't really. 
Go anywhere. 

2020
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:22,520
Good one there. 
I think she's got almost as many

2021
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,840
runs this year that she has in 
the first three years. 

2022
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,000
So yeah, finally living up to 
it. 

2023
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,640
Nice. 
Who who is the knight in shining

2024
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:34,920
armor of the WPL as and who 
saved their team from certain 

2025
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,960
defeat the most? 
Nadine Leclerc, I guess. 

2026
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,120
She kept doing it over and over 
again. 

2027
01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:44,640
That Zulu esque we were talking 
about a World Cup, right Last 

2028
01:40:44,640 --> 01:40:46,880
year. 
She kept South Africa would keep

2029
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:51,360
using her at like #8 #9 for some
weird reason very reminiscent of

2030
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:55,560
Z1999 again for RCVI think both 
with bat and ball. 

2031
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:59,040
She just had such a massive 
impact that she was possibly the

2032
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,440
biggest game changer in some 
ways. 

2033
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,160
You could argue Sophie Devine as
well, but I think we might have 

2034
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,920
to give him the team declared 
some points because, you know, I

2035
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:08,040
see we actually ended up winning
it, which is not a fairway to 

2036
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,480
look at it, but who cares? 
So that's fair. 

2037
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,480
OK, And this one is for you 
Pratib, who left this WPL as a 

2038
01:41:15,480 --> 01:41:19,080
bigger name than they entered 
Anushka Sharma 100%. 

2039
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:21,840
I feel like if you Google 
searcher now, you won't have 

2040
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,720
Virat Kohli's wife showing up. 
You'll also have some search 

2041
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:26,920
results for Anushka Sharma, the 
Gujar Jans player. 

2042
01:41:27,440 --> 01:41:31,200
So Lauren Bell the ratra says 
that in the chat, not Lauren 

2043
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,200
Bell. 
The thing with Lauren Bell is 

2044
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,520
even through the World Cup, 
you've seen like, this whole 

2045
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:39,480
package of her of commentators 
talking about her technical 

2046
01:41:39,480 --> 01:41:41,880
change and how she's tweaked her
game a lot. 

2047
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,280
But Anushka Sharma, for so many 
people coming in, you've just 

2048
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:48,080
heard of this name. 
You possibly have an idea that, 

2049
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,720
OK, she's done well in the 
domestics. 

2050
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,560
But to replicate that to some 
extent and with the kind of 

2051
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:57,720
style and this, how she carries 
herself, is definitely one name 

2052
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,760
to watch out for the future. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

2053
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,160
I'm not sure that if you Google 
Anushka Sharma, you will not 

2054
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:10,560
find the actors, but everything 
else I think I agree with. 

2055
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,520
All right. 
Any final notes on the WPL 

2056
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:16,280
before we wrap up? 
Like what did you think of the 

2057
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:19,800
tournament overall compared to 
previous tournaments and 

2058
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:23,200
internal? 
I really think like the season. 

2059
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,200
Was a. 
Well contested one, right? 

2060
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,480
The quality of cricket was right
up there. 

2061
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:30,080
The fact that we were still, you
know, thinking of who could 

2062
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:33,440
potentially qualify for that 
eliminator itself till the very 

2063
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:35,640
last match. 
I think just, you know, went on 

2064
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,640
to show that each of the teams 
were going, you know, at it. 

2065
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,800
And I just felt like it was a 
much better season in comparison

2066
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,720
to the others. 
And also, we didn't have like, 

2067
01:42:45,720 --> 01:42:48,680
the usual suspects, you know, 
qualifying for like the 

2068
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,840
playoffs. 
Again, taking back to the point 

2069
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:53,720
that I wish we had like, more 
matches, more teams. 

2070
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,000
The scheduling could have been 
better. 

2071
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:58,440
And probably, you know, like, 
they could have probably kept 

2072
01:42:58,440 --> 01:43:01,760
the first leg in Vadodara and 
then the next set of matches in 

2073
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:03,760
Navi Mumbai, you know, sort of 
capitalize on that. 

2074
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,880
A lot of things that could have,
you know, sort of gone better. 

2075
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:10,120
But in spite of that, the league
continues to Denver and throw up

2076
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:13,120
so many starts, right? 
So, yeah, I think a lot of 

2077
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,000
positives in that regard. 
But I hope like there's some 

2078
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,160
again, you know, foresight into 
the planning and the scheduling 

2079
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,000
side side of things. 
And it's not so, you know, 

2080
01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:24,240
centered on, oh, men's cricket 
is playing like you have India 

2081
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:28,680
and New Zealand and all of that 
and then in a sort of schedule, 

2082
01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:32,720
the WPL as an afterthought. 
So I hope that mindset also, you

2083
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:35,480
know, sort of goes on to see and
better venues too, right? 

2084
01:43:35,480 --> 01:43:37,440
Navi Mumbai is definitely one of
your picks. 

2085
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:41,080
But could other venues have been
explored as something I probably

2086
01:43:41,080 --> 01:43:44,360
leave the room to think about? 
I mean Devjit Saikia. 

2087
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:48,280
Says that women games don't get 
crowds. 

2088
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,880
So I mean, should I believe you?
And I'm chair, critic or the 

2089
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:56,120
secretary of the BCCI? 
Yeah, Devjit. 

2090
01:43:56,120 --> 01:44:00,320
Singh is. 
An interesting man doing very 

2091
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,520
stupidness. 
I don't know how he's become so 

2092
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:04,680
important to global politics all
of a sudden. 

2093
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:07,120
Don't worry, I think he's on his
way out. 

2094
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,040
And Rak Thakur has just been 
cleared, right? 

2095
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,360
To come back to the BCCI. 
Are we doing the draft? 

2096
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:16,640
Yeah, dude, do you? 
Want to do the draft real quick?

2097
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,760
Yeah, let's do it, Neha. 
OK. 

2098
01:44:21,120 --> 01:44:27,520
Pratib, Cheyenne, Richa and MV. 
OK, that's the order. 

2099
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,760
No, it's 12, so it's 12, so. 
Two each. 

2100
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:37,440
OK, what are we doing? 
It's it's just a simple snake 

2101
01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:40,520
style. 
Draft where we pick 12 players 

2102
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:46,960
to form the team of the WPL 2026
so may have your first. 

2103
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,200
Yeah, I really love that I'm. 
1st I'm going. 

2104
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:53,920
To go with Smriti Madra, there 
at least the top order is sorted

2105
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:56,680
and the captain of the team, 
rightfully so winning team, so 

2106
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:01,920
she Taratra is not unhappy with 
that sorted up. 

2107
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,560
Next is Taratra Daratra you her 
second pick. 

2108
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,760
Yeah, as a completely unbiased. 
Observer, I'm going to take 

2109
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,640
Lauren Belle because those two 
apparently can, would have 

2110
01:45:10,640 --> 01:45:15,160
thought. 
Like if I just cut a reel of you

2111
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:16,960
saying. 
Laurel and Belle, I think that'd

2112
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,840
be more than one minute. 
Please don't do that. 

2113
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:22,360
No, we don't do anything on 
this. 

2114
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:27,920
Podcast Next up is Pratib. 
I'll go with. 

2115
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,000
Natsu Abrant. 
Another easy one. 

2116
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:32,120
We. 
Have sham. 

2117
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:34,840
Hey, I still feel like there's 
lots of options. 

2118
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,360
Available. 
I'm honestly getting a bit 

2119
01:45:37,360 --> 01:45:40,920
confused. 
So how about Nadine de Clerk? 

2120
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,320
Yeah, that's a good one. 
Yeah, Richard, Sophie Devine. 

2121
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:47,680
Sophie Devine, I think. 
Yeah, I, I. 

2122
01:45:47,680 --> 01:45:50,080
Had expected her to be picked 
earlier. 

2123
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:56,000
I'm going to go Nandani Sharma 
and Harman Preet Kaur. 

2124
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,200
And back to you Richard. 
Wow. 

2125
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,360
Oh God. 
So Nadine, the clerk's already 

2126
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:07,120
done see who else? 
So I'll go, I'll go through the 

2127
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,760
name. 
Again, Neha went for There is my

2128
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:15,640
OK, so I'll run the order again.
Neha went for Smithy, Mandna 

2129
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:22,400
Tartra went for anybody's 
guesses, Lauren Bell Pratib went

2130
01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:27,880
for Nat Civil Brand. 
Shan went for Nadine the clerk, 

2131
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,560
which went for Sophie Devine. 
I picked Herman, Britt Kaur and 

2132
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:35,760
Anne Sharma and which has again 
picked Shabnam Ismail. 

2133
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:39,440
So back to you Shan. 
Can we pick more than 4 

2134
01:46:39,440 --> 01:46:42,600
overseas? 
It doesn't really matter, man. 

2135
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:45,760
If that is not the rule, then I.
Have no issues guys. 

2136
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,760
We probably need another opener 
still I would assume because we 

2137
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:54,080
do have a lot of batters, but we
can go with an opener to no 

2138
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,720
compliments for the we don't 
even have a keeper here. 

2139
01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,000
So, and we can, you know, sort 
out a keeper as well, I mean. 

2140
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:03,480
Lizelli seems like a good option
if you want that keeper plus top

2141
01:47:03,480 --> 01:47:05,400
order back cover. 
So I think let's just go with 

2142
01:47:05,440 --> 01:47:08,200
her. 
Yeah, Lizelli, fantastic. 

2143
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:13,160
Which brings us. 
Back to Pratib, so OK, so. 

2144
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,080
Probably should go for a 
spinner. 

2145
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,920
We don't have too many spinners.
No spinners right now. 

2146
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,880
I think probably go with Ashley 
Gardner. 

2147
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:25,520
Is this the team that she gets 
to bowl? 

2148
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:29,080
Yeah, she has to bowl. 
In this team, she's also not the

2149
01:47:29,080 --> 01:47:34,360
captain, so yeah, makes sense. 
Next up is Dharutra. 

2150
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:36,520
So we've got an off spinner, 
right? 

2151
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,520
So it. 
Sounds like we need a leg 

2152
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:43,880
spinner. 
You guys tell me who you think 

2153
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,560
the best latest. 
Winner in the league is has to 

2154
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:49,240
be Premier Rawat. 
The Indian man. 

2155
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,280
Since we're not doing foreign. 
Players, I think we have to. 

2156
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:57,680
I mean, we're not doing an 
overseas limit. 

2157
01:47:58,240 --> 01:47:59,760
You have to go for a lot of 
kick, right? 

2158
01:48:00,480 --> 01:48:02,040
She's even gone to 50 in a World
Cup. 

2159
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,040
To me all around this. 
Yeah. 

2160
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:14,440
It's not enough fun. 
Can't wait for Neha to. 

2161
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:18,160
End this with another surprise 
pick. 

2162
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:20,560
I was actually thinking very 
left field. 

2163
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,720
Here And I think you're 
Rajeshwari Gaikwad. 

2164
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:26,480
I think the way she's reinvented
herself in this season, I think 

2165
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,840
she definitely makes a case for 
herself like, yeah, I don't 

2166
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,120
know, I just feel like we should
go for her. 

2167
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:33,200
Bharatra has just fallen off his
chair. 

2168
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:35,800
I. 
Was just looking at her numbers 

2169
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:37,480
right? 
This season, like, she's had 

2170
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:39,640
some really economical spells. 
Balls among us. 

2171
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,560
He's fallen off his chair again,
like. 

2172
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,160
For the record, yeah, I mean. 
The. 

2173
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:46,880
Big question. 
Is. 

2174
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,440
Does this team beat RCB? 
I mean, if Smriti's playing 

2175
01:48:50,440 --> 01:48:53,800
against. 
RCB, so and and Nadine, right, 

2176
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,760
we're resuming clones. 
I think going by the. 

2177
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,200
Team of the WPL. 
I think ChatGPT can decide it. 

2178
01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:06,480
It's. 
So much shape from MV all 

2179
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:11,800
throughout. 
All right, So, you know, with 

2180
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:13,960
that, we wrap up our WPL 
coverage. 

2181
01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:16,400
It was it was a lot of fun this 
year. 

2182
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,280
You know, RCB won it. 
Again, congratulations to their 

2183
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:24,360
team as a Delhi fan and sad. 
But, you know, what can we do? 

2184
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,120
Yeah. 
So I just want to thank you all 

2185
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:32,400
for having for coming on to this
podcast, you know, Pratib, 

2186
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,720
Tarutra, Neha, Cheyenne, thank 
you all. 

2187
01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:38,040
Hopefully we can invite you on 
for more coverage in the future.

2188
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,920
We have a World Cup coming up 
later this year. 

2189
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:42,360
So all right. 
And that's a wrap. 

2190
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,040
That's four in a row. 
Various girls they're going to 

2191
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,600
blow next in the prodigal son 
turn. 

2192
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:54,120
Messiah gets a second hundred in
successor in romantic style. 

2193
01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:57,200
The whole of Bengals are on 
their feet.

