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Ladies and gentlemen, history 
has been made, but has the beast

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been slayed? 
Was that bars unintentionally? 

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Diego versus MENA Rd. has just 
concluded the first attend and 

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we're here to break it down, 
talk about it, analyze the build

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up, the actual show, the 
gameplay itself, the aftermath 

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and a little preview of EVO 
Japan. 

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Adam, how you doing you you'll 
wake you alert. 

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This is this is the same day as 
this set airing at a very, very 

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early morning hours for us 
Americans here. 

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I'm, I'm doing great. 
I actually, you know, got some 

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good sleep and you know, woke up
right in time for to watch the 

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set cause I didn't wake up at 
4:00 AM like a crazy person. 

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I woke up at normal hours and I 
was like, oh, looks like I 

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hasn't started yet. 
Great. 

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Yeah, The funny thing is if I 
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it would have been perfect 
because I I attempted to be the 

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crazy person to get up to, to 
restream the event thinking that

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this, you know, the event itself
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Pacific, which would have been 
3:00 AM my time. 

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And I figured, OK, two first to 
sevenths happening before then 

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let me get up at like 4:30 just 
to be safe, you know, an hour 

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and a half and make sure I don't
miss the beginning of it. 

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Well, it turns about the entire 
event didn't even start till an 

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hour and a half after the the 
runtime began and that was to 

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lead into the first set, Lagya 
versus Goichi and then Arsenal 

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and Ash versus Chicanoon. 
So production wise there was 

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some major hiccups before we 
even get into the actual meat 

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and potatoes of the Daigo versus
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That was crazy. 
They were bumping the mixtape on

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loop for an over an hour, no 
update. 

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This has been a kind of 
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EVO Japan type production. 
There's always, always something

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going wrong. 
No announcement on Twitter or 

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nothing, just bumping the 
mixtape for an hour straight. 

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Hey, wasn't expecting it to 
start completely on time. 

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I'm not surprised. 
But even like most events always

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have that little countdown like 
hey, it'll start in like 10 

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minutes. 
So to hear that it went an hour 

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30 after is is not. 
I'm glad I kind of I missed part

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of it. 
I didn't go back and watch the 

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Goichi Logie, I said, Which is 
actually pretty good. 

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Yeah, it was actually good. 
I mean, once they finally 

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started, they finally showed the
venue, it was kind of weird, 

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like the production of it all 
too. 

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It's a pretty small venue, very 
small, and everyone's sitting in

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polite rows with the small 
stage. 

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I think the atmosphere wasn't as
sick as it could have been. 

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That's, that's something I think
that's kind of missing this 

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transition between grassroots 
FEC events where the the stage 

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is small and people are like 
right up against the stage and 

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it's very casual and people up 
and moving and like trying to 

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make that into these designated 
high profile, almost like MMA 

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style boxing style undercard 
main card matches. 

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Something's got to change there 
because there was it was 

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definitely kind of stiff. 
It was a little more stiff than 

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I would have appreciated for the
atmosphere. 

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Yeah, they I felt like all the 
other like first attends that 

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Daigo played. 
It's always like old school. 

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Everyone kind of bunched up 
against each other. 

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Even the Tokido Daigo one in 
Street Fighter 5 was so funny 

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because they were like in just 
some small area, everyone's kind

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of bunched up. 
It just looks like old, old 

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arcade vibes. 
I know the the CN versus Daigo 1

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was also kind of felt like that.
So this one felt like it wasn't 

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Super E Sports Red Bull Kuma 
tape tier production, but it 

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didn't feel like old school 
arcade vibe, Yeah. 

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The Red Bull production would 
have made her sick. 

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Dude, Red Bull Ku mante. 
They, they figured it out, man. 

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They, they, they have the Polish
and the Sheen, but it's also a 

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bad ass, right? 
So I think Red Bull ku mante 

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would have been take some notes 
from that. 

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And yeah, you mentioned the 
other Daigo sets. 

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Those were like the CN and 
infiltration sets. 

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That was the Mad Cats unveiled 
events. 

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They were done in like 
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The one versus CN was at a 
nightclub in Seattle, right? 

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So they're just like there in a 
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people. 
And it just seems sick, right? 

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Like there's there's something 
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atmosphere. 
So this was really stiff and the

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projection was a little weird 
because they're trying to juggle

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doing like the Japanese and the 
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audiences. 
And every single person in there

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is Japanese like in the 
audience, you know, they're all 

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like polite golf clapping for 
everything. 

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You know, even for the first two
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give a shit, they're all there 
specifically for MENA Rd. 

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Daigo. 
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot

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of them have never even seen 
these other games. 

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So there was a a few notes I 
would give on on the production.

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But you know, Rob TV shot Rob, 
He was there doing this thing. 

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Ryan Hart was there trying to 
trying to translate English, 

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Japanese, but they did their 
thing. 

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Rob was doing so many cuz like I
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like, Rob's doing like Michael 
Jordan, LeBron James comparisons

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for Daigo versus vet. 
I'm like, nobody there knows who

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those people are. 
Rob like you got to, you got to 

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do something else, a different, 
a different comparison. 

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I could tell there was moments 
where he just wanted to like, 

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bring the roof down with the 
hype and he had to fit into like

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the the back and forth scheduled
pacing that they had between him

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and Ryan. 
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to be like, hey, everyone get 
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That's, you know, I could tell 
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there where Rob was like, ready 
to like, RIP his suit off and go

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crazy for the set. 
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like, oh, this is a very 
honorable, professional, 

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meaningful set here. 
And Rob wants to be like fucking

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Kellogg. 
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So there there was a weird 
tension there in the air. 

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But production aside, what's he 
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Laguichi, that was stick too, 
because once again, if you're 

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sleeping in, they went down to 
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And that said all the way down. 
And that's, you know, Goichi is 

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the Evo Vegas champion for Fatal
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World Championships, which 
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1.25 million and Goichi got a 
nice trophy. 

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So there there could be a bit of
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So the stakes between those 
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And yeah, it was it was a good 
set all the way down to the 

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wire. 
I mean, what more could you ask 

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for in that one? 
Hey there. 

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OK, back to the show. 
Core went down, it was six to 

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seven, so. 
Yeah, not 766 to seven, right. 

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Yeah, yeah, Yeah. 
We got to specify that. 

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Meanwhile, on the other side of 
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Ash versus Chikodoon. 
It was, it was kind of a, it was

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kind of a blowout man like 
Arsen. 

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That sounds weird because like 
Arsenal was getting his ass beat

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at the beginning like. 
Arsenal was up there on the 

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stage for a while. 
It was bad. 

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Yeah, and then he's just so 
Eliza and then just like started

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going ham. 
I don't like, I haven't really 

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kept up with Tekken after I 
think the Season 3, the back to 

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the basics update. 
I don't know if like Eliza's 

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just really strong or something,
but Eliza was doing the work. 

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And then yeah. 
And that that's when Arsene kind

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of brought it back and Clive was
just kind of like murdering all 

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of his character picks if he 
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So I don't know, I I felt like 
arson was just kind of like soul

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searching and she grew and was 
just like, yeah, Claude's going 

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to beat him. 
All these characters asses. 

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Isn't her name Elisa? 
Eliza, Eliza. 

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Eliza. 
Man, we don't. 

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This is bad. 
We're we're. 

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No, no, it it's I, I, That's how
I. 

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Got the X back on the pod band. 
We can't be talking about these 

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sets we're about to piss off. 
That's how I always said her 

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name. 
Eliza. 

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We're gonna piss off the five 
Tekken viewers we have. 

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But yeah, it was bad at first 
this the Zavina was getting 

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worked bad. 
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predicting this to be a blowout 
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But Chicano. 
And you know, he won EVO Japan 

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in 2024, I believe for Tekken 8,
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released one of the earlier big 
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And so he's on his thing. 
And I think there's an 

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interesting narrative stake 
there because that Eva Japan 

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that he won, you know, Arsene's 
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like every other Tuesday, it 
feels like, you know, he already

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has seven EVO wins for Tekken 
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won, Arsene wasn't in 
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So there's an element of that. 
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Japan if Arsene wasn't there, I 
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year and couldn't attend the 
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So little asterisks on that win.
So I, I, I think for chicken, 

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this is a this is a good win for
him and his career, even though 

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he did it with Clyde, which, you
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kind of pissed about that 
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He's anime as fuck, big giant 
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place, sparkle on the screen. 
It's a lot. 

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It's a lot going on. 
So they might not like the way 

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he got the job done, but I think
that's a a big win for him for 

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his own personal competitive 
career. 

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To kind of quell any comments 
like, yeah, OK, like stop, don't

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question my my win over here. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like I beat the guy head to Then
of course we had the main event,

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Daigo versus MENA Rd. 
But leading up to the set, holy 

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shit, like the build up to this 
set was crazy. 

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It felt like there was nothing, 
that it all came all at once. 

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And I think the main thing was 
the two pieces of content 

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released kind of back-to-back 
through both the Diego the Beast

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TV channel and the Rejects 
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They kind of had like these 
companion pieces, the first one 

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being the video where they 
interviewed a lot of different 

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members from the Japanese FGC 
were people that Daiko had 

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impacted over his, you know, 
tenured career. 

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And they talked about his 
history, what Daigo means to the

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FGC and his history in these 
competitive spheres, What they 

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what do they think's going to 
happen, their hopes, their 

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beliefs, right? 
And it was pretty poetic, like a

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lot of people were showing a lot
of respect to Daigo and talking 

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about how like without him, this
might not even exist. 

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And it was it was emotional, 
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And at the end of it, they're 
like, do you think he'll win? 

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And it's like, well, you know, 
no, a lot of them quite frankly,

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were saying like, I want him to 
win, but I don't know, man. 

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Did you did you watch that first
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No, I, I did see it, but even a 
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unless you're very nostalgic or,
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of Daigo's like old Daigo, 
nobody, nobody with like, I 

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don't want to say calm is that 
nobody with anyone, anyone who's

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watched Street Fighter Six, New 
Dayo probably wasn't going to 

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win. 
Maybe, maybe and that was the 

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logical conclusion. 
Of course, like the the other 

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side of the coin is diagnose 
history in the first to 10 sets 

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hem beating CN 10 O after he won
Evo and Literation 10/2 a month 

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after and then beating Taquito 
10/5 after he won Evo. 

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There was this element of 
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factor where Daigo would be 
falling off in tournaments after

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his like reign of dominance 
after Eva 2010 was cut short, 

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right? 
Like he was winning the majors 

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international championships 
consistently until that moment. 

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But then, oh, turns out in the 
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the championships champions. 
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like nostalgia factor that 
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Feel like people were just 
counting the to me. 

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Yeah, those are the nostalgia 
factors. 

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But even then, they're still 
different games. 

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I feel like that's always going 
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for me. 
It's different games. 

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Street Fighter Four, Street 
Fighter Five, It's Street 

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Fighter Six we're talking about.
Yeah, they're they're different 

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games, but he did it between two
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there's like it's not. 
I'm trying to give credit here 

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to the the people who are 
believing in Daigo. 

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There is an element of belief 
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this before the companion piece,
the final piece, the video went 

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out on the rejects channel was I
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get a 10/4 MENA Rd. 
Daigo set, like, you know, Daigo

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gets four games, amazing. 
You know, like that's like the 

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best case scenario, 10-4. 
But then just a couple days ago,

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we got the response to that 
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he lays it down. 
I mean he is spitting. 

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Bar after bar after. 
Bar on this video and direct 

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comparison to the people before 
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him as if he was already dead. 
It was almost like they're 

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hosting a a a a funeral in 
remembrance for his legacy and 

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career. 
And I mean where do you even 

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begin? 
There's, there's so many 

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quotable lines from that, that 
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And I, I think one of the things
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he comes out swinging and he's 
like, you know, I, I've got to 

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where I am in this, in this 
career by winning. 

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It's only right if it's all 
taken away by me losing. 

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You know what I mean? 
Like he quickly establishes 

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like, hey, don't make any 
fucking excuses for me. 

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I'm not some old helpless man 
here. 

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I'm going all in. 
There is nothing else I'm 

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focusing on in my life. 
This is my ultimate goal here. 

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And if I die, I died on my sword
going down swinging and there's 

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no excuses you can make for me. 
So like people already trying to

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be like, oh, he's too old. 
It it's not even a game he cares

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about. 
Menardee should challenge him in

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Street Fighter four or something
like crazy copium for people. 

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And that's disrespectful. 
And Daigo's like, hey, that's, 

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that's disrespectful to me right
now. 

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I'm it's doesn't matter what you
did in the past, another line he

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had. 
It's what you've done recently. 

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It's only about your your next 
victory. 

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And I'm here to establish that 
now and then he keeps going on. 

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But I, I like that he clearly 
cleared the air, cleared the 

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doubt about this being, you 
know, some washed up veteran who

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can barely hold on. 
It was like, no, like this is 

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life or death. 
One of one of my favorite quotes

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was from that one was I he's 
like the everyone doubting him 

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was like lighting like a a spark
in him, which I I kind of like 

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because he's like everyone was 
like everyone already counted me

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out for losing. 
I already lost, but you know, 

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I'm I'm still going to come out,
you know, swinging and, you 

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know, trying to beat beta. 
So I thought that one was cool. 

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And you know, that's, that's 
really the fire when everyone's 

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kind of already counting you 
out, you get like motivated or 

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you just want to win out of 
spite because you just like 

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these guys don't know what 
they're talking about. 

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I'm going to do this, I'm going 
to win this. 

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So I I like that part. 
It was crazy. 

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He was, he was saying, yeah, 
that that part, he was saying, 

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you know, at first I didn't even
know I was going to win. 

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But the more people said I 
wasn't going to win, then I 

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thought, wait, I will win. 
I'm like this. 

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It's a psycho, you know? 
And the other thing he was 

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saying, he was directly calling 
people out. 

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He said fighting games are fun. 
We're supposed to do this for 

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fun. 
He mentioned how it became 

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suffocating, getting caught up 
in the environment where once 

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you win a lot, you try to 
protect that, protect that 

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image, protect that legacy, and 
then it makes you pulled away 

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from playing. 
He called it suffocating. 

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And it's almost like a bit of 
self reflection. 

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It's something he's gone through
himself about becoming an 

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accomplished competitive player 
and a professional player. 

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And he reflects that back on the
current community, right. 

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The Capcom cups, Ewcs like these
are big prize pool events and 

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they're not incentivized to go 
out of their way to perform 

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these exhibition matches with 
pride on the line, right? 

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It's like the whole focus is 
save it for these major 

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tournaments, save it for 
nationals, whatever. 

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Like why would you even go out 
of your way to play outside of 

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that context? 
That's not the point. 

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The point is to win the 
tournaments. 

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And so he, he like mentioned, he
thanked Menardi for like, or he 

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acknowledged Menardi, how 
interesting and, and great that 

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was that he was interested in 
doing this outside of that 

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context because he thought that 
was something of the past, which

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it kind of has been, we have 
been lacking that. 

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And so Daigo is like, Oh, this 
is what I do for fun. 

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And it's something that I've 
dedicated my whole life to. 

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If I were to run away from a 
childish for something I do for 

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fun that I dedicated my whole 
life to, it's as if I cease to, 

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to live. 
It's as if I am dead. 

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If that is my life and I run 
away from my life, I might as 

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well be dead. 
He was getting fucking 

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existential. 
And he's like, if you don't try 

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hard at the one thing in life 
you enjoy, what you cease to be 

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human. 
And I was like, damn, I know so 

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many people watching this are 
like, what do what? 

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What do I try hard at in life? 
You know what I mean? 

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That energy of like giving 
something your all is, is so 

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inspiring that you can apply to 
anything in your own life, right

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in your own journey. 
And that was crazy. 

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And then beyond that, of course,
the the Santa, the Santa line 

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man, he started getting, he's 
like, as you grow old, the 

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weight of reality bears down 
upon you. 

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You learn eventually that you 
know, oh, you can't grow up to 

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be whatever you want. 
You have to follow these rules. 

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Santa Claus isn't real. 
That was disappointing to me as 

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a kid, he said. 
And he's like, you know what? 

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As I grew older, I realized that
Santa isn't real. 

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I'll become Santa. 
What the fuck? 

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I don't know. 
I didn't even know what that 

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meant. 
I was just like, yo, what? 

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What is Diego on? 
But he's right. 

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Got to become Santa. 
Got to, you know, make your own.

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I don't even know, like Diego. 
I need whatever Diego's on 

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because that, that was like the 
most inspirational fighting game

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speech I've ever heard. 
Yeah, it's like the the line 

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from, you know, they used it in 
the Kanye West song. 

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I'm not, I'm not. 
I won't name it. 

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But you know, what does that 
even mean? 

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Who cares what it means? 
It's provocative because it's 

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hard to describe exactly what it
means without the lens of like, 

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poetry to to back it up. 
But you get what it means. 

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The idea that if this fantasy 
isn't real, you, you put in the 

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work to make it real yourself. 
Like, you might as well become 

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the larger than life fantasy 
because who else is going to do 

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it, right? 
So for Daigo and his world, 

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there was no such thing as a 
professional gamer that did not 

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exist. 
He created that. 

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He had a fantasy of playing 
these games to the highest level

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and he made it a reality. 
That's like becoming fucking 

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Santa Claus to him as a kid. 
It's the same thing. 

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This shit did not exist. 
So that was crazy. 

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And of course the other line is 
like, oh, you don't know how 

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much of a fire you've lit in me 
with your lack of faith. 

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Oh my God, there's so many bars 
all over the place in that 

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video. 
So after that, you know, he got 

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me tearing up, man. 
I was like, shit, sorry, Daigo. 

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Like I logically I was thinking 
10 four MENA Rd. 

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But after that, I was like, 
damn, for a moment there I 

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actually believed Daigo could 
win. 

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I my my thing was OK. 
I liked all the bars. 

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He's obviously being 
inspirational. 

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I said it was going to be 10 
three prior and I was like, I 

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like the I like the Santa Claus 
line. 

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I like that he's fired up. 
It's 10510 five minutes though. 

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You got an extra 2 games out of 
him. 

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Santa Claus line gave gave two 
games to Daigo. 

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I mean it. 
But I think regardless of what 

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that did, that video set it up 
so that I I think people who 

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were questioning the legitimacy 
of this match. 

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There was a definitely a, a sect
of the community or a lot of 

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community who were like they 
were doing the comparison 

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between Mike Tyson and, and 
whatever his name is. 

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What is his name? 
Jake Paul. 

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Jake Paul, that guy, I'm, I'm, 
you know, I'm trying to wipe his

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name for my brain permanently, 
but you get the idea, right? 

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The idea like the age disparity,
there's a lot more dynamics to 

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that that are worse. 
And like, I, I don't think, I 

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don't think people mean to 
literally compare the quality of

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character also between MENA Rd. 
and Jake Paul and Mike Tyson and

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Daigo. 
But people are saying basically 

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like, oh, he's, he's challenging
someone past his prime. 

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And I think this this video 
helped to dispel that air. 

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Don't make excuses for me. 
I'm alive. 

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I'm I'm, I'm awakened. 
He even said he even said that 

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for I feel awakened again. 
I feel alive because we've been 

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seeing sleepy Diego for quite 
some time. 

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So it set up the stakes for the 
set. 

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No matter if he loses, he goes 
out swinging and he played his 

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best and we know that. 
And I think there's something 

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honorable to that to like fight 
to the death, essentially give 

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it your all. 
And then if he wins, it sets up 

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the most legendary, he's sports 
legend of all time period. 

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So that was a a masterpiece of a
work. 

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And it's crazy to have that come
from Dia because when he has 

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these moments of clairvoyance 
and and poetry where he speaks 

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about fighting games, he's so 
eloquent and he's very much a 

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poet. 
And then you see him the rest of

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the time and he's like, you 
know, barely cognizant of his 

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environment. 
Drunk, drunk out of his mind at 

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a random tournament. 
Just like sitting in the corner 

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at the bar. 
Yeah, that's that's a die guy I 

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know. 
You see him with the Sonic. 

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Beer. 
You know a. 

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Classic photo. 
And you know, he's kind of a 

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partier too, right? 
And anytime people take pictures

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with him, he always just looks a
little funny. 

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It's a little like out of it or 
something. 

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He's. 
My favorite Daigo picture is 

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always the. 
I think he took a picture of 

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Marie and he had like a fat 
ass's hat on. 

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I think it's just hilarious, 
yeah. 

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That was like, how did he wander
into that situation? 

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Like he's a little aloof, you 
know what I mean? 

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Like he, he seems a little aloof
and ends up in weird situations 

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where he's like, what, what's 
Daigo doing here? 

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And Daigo's like, I don't know, 
I'm here, man. 

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So then to see this laser focus 
that comes out of him when 

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talking about his craft is like 
it's jarring but beautiful the 

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same some time. 
So that was that got me really 

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kicked into high gear for this 
set and then finally bringing it

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back to the set if I got to sit 
down and play and it started 

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pretty good. 
It I'm not going to lie, if that

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was the first to two men would 
have been a loser, but if that 

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was a great start. 
But I kind of expected Diego to 

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come out. 
Swiggy What? 

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Do you mean by that? 
What do you mean? 

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I was expecting Daigo to get 
like the first. 

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I, I was expecting to get the 
first game because I knew Daigo 

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was like super prepared. 
MENA was going to play super 

444
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,240
passive. 
Even the first two games, I 

445
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,280
think MENA played incredibly 
passive because you know, it's 

446
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,760
like, oh, what is Daigo going to
do? 

447
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,560
But I kind of expected Daigo to 
get off to a hot start, like 

448
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,120
definitely a game or two in the 
beginning. 

449
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,280
Really I I thought the opposite.
I thought MENA Rd. would come 

450
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:48,800
out just destroying him. 
I really, I really did. 

451
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,480
So yeah, Dagger got the first 
two games of the set and not 

452
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,080
only did he get it first two 
games, like he did show off his 

453
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,320
preparedness in the match up. 
There was like specific things 

454
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,920
he gave away and and something 
it didn't even work that he 

455
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,000
hinted at later. 
Like in one of the first two 

456
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,680
games he did a walk up adamant 
fist with MENA Rd. in the corner

457
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,360
at a weird spacing. 
And I was like, that was kind of

458
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:12,400
weird. 
And then you see that later on 

459
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120
he does that and it it calls out
MENA Rd. doing the stand heavy 

460
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,280
kick with Blanca because you 
know, stand heavy kick with 

461
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,960
Blanca a billion active frames 
and can very easily convert on 

462
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,840
counter hit and whatever into 
level 1 on link. 

463
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:30,080
But it's hard to whip punish 
because it has no like advancing

464
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,240
hurt box really. 
So you need something like big 

465
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,440
to get in there to whip punish. 
So he's just fishing with that 

466
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,040
to clip your pokes from a 
distance, but you're probably 

467
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,760
not going to whip punish it. 
And then like he hits him with 

468
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,160
that later on. 
I'm like, oh shit, like that's 

469
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,520
what he was fishing for early 
on. 

470
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,240
And the other things I really 
liked is his jump game was very 

471
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,880
interesting. 
He was specifically looking for 

472
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,680
Menardee to not have down charge
and then he would do either 

473
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,760
extremely early jump heavy punch
or jump heavy kick, or he would 

474
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,520
do the akuma regular down plus 
medium dive kick, which you 

475
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,600
barely see in this game. 
Like that is not a commonly used

476
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,160
move because his his main non 
charge anti air Stan heavy kick,

477
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,400
which is God like. 
And if it hits counter hit like 

478
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,160
he gets 10 billion damage. 
But stalling in the air like 

479
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,000
that can make it with and we saw
that work like we saw like, oh 

480
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,960
shit, like he has strategies to 
get in. 

481
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,600
And so you, you clearly saw that
from the beginning with Daigo 

482
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,720
and he showed that early. 
And you're right, MENA Rd. was 

483
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,760
playing passive so maybe he was 
just downloading the beginning. 

484
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,240
It was, I feel like it's just 
like a Daigo thing. 

485
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,320
I feel like when you first play 
Daigo, you're like, what is, 

486
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,360
what is, what is Uncot ready for
me? 

487
00:24:36,360 --> 00:24:39,240
What is Uncot prepared for me? 
So you're you're a bit worried. 

488
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,840
But like I said, I was like the 
first couple of games I did like

489
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,440
the dive kick. 
He did get a lot of punish 

490
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,600
counter dive kicks on Blanca's 
stand heavy kick, but he wasn't 

491
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,440
really converting into that much
damage. 

492
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,880
I feel like it's just like I got
the jump in and then like I'm 

493
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,520
going to try not a frame chop or
something. 

494
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,320
So it's kind of weird. 
I don't think he got that much 

495
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,200
damage or that much leeway. 
It did stop MENA from anti air. 

496
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Right now it. 
It let him do the jump regular 

497
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,440
hits a lot more like he he was 
jumping a surprising amount for 

498
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,240
this kind of a set right. 
Like he got really creative with

499
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,440
that. 
So I, I do think it at least 

500
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,840
established like the mix up of 
what he's doing to, to control 

501
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,160
the neutral. 
And so I'm surprised you think 

502
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,120
that way because like, for me 
and the rest, I think a lot of 

503
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:22,760
people watching Daigo getting on
the board, 2O is like earth 

504
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,640
earth shattering. 
Like Daigo getting one game 

505
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,120
immediately dispelled like 10% 
or 20% of the predictions out 

506
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,960
there. 
Because people, some people were

507
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,320
both like there's the other side
of it where they're insane Daigo

508
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,760
fanboys like O106 Daigo. 
And then there's other people 

509
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800
who are like 10 O MENA. 
There was a decent number of 

510
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,800
those. 
It was never going to be a 10 O.

511
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,880
Those people are crazy. 
It was never going to be a 10 O,

512
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,720
not in like a player of like 
Daigo's caliber. 

513
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,800
It was not going to be a 10 O. 
But like I said, my prediction 

514
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,520
was always like Daigo get the 
first game or two, Mena's going 

515
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,160
to run away with it. 
It'll be like 9 to two, eight to

516
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,960
two. 
Daigo get one more game and then

517
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,280
Meno just finish it. 
Well, we almost saw that. 

518
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,160
It felt like that was coming to 
fruition because Daigo gets 

519
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,440
those first two games and and 
then MENA Rd. starts running 

520
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,680
away with it. 
And not not linearly. 

521
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,640
I guess we should mention one 
thing I forgot to mention is 

522
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
before the set went down, you 
know they did, they did show off

523
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520
a lot more of the promotional 
material, hyping it up, having 

524
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,560
the pre match ceremony, having 
them stare at each other 

525
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,720
awkwardly, you know, like it 
was, it was pretty stiff. 

526
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,120
But one of the interesting 
things is that they showed the 

527
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:35,360
rule set. 
There was more rules for this 

528
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:37,640
than I've ever seen ever for a 
set. 

529
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,840
I've never seen that amount of 
explicit rules to find for a 

530
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,360
set. 
They had rules that were 

531
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:47,080
defining when they would swap 
sides. 

532
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,920
Like after X number of games the
players swap sides in the setup.

533
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,000
It's the head to head setup. 
After X number of games you have

534
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,400
a stage swap. 
You're not allowed to swap 

535
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,400
characters or costumes. 
You can take a note break one 

536
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,720
page or whatever of notes. 
If you call, you have X number 

537
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,600
of note breaks, no one on stage,
no cell phones, bathroom break 

538
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,240
after X number of games, you 
have 110 minute timeout. 

539
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,840
You know what I mean? 
Like there's all these rules, a 

540
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,760
full, a full slide of rules. 
I was like, oh, shit, like this 

541
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,360
is this is serious, which is it 
was very funny to see. 

542
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,840
It's just like, it makes sense 
to a degree and I liked it, but 

543
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,880
it was just jarring to see 
because we never get that. 

544
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,160
I think that was more of a 
Japanese FGC thing. 

545
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,320
If that was in America. 
If that was in America, then we 

546
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,440
wouldn't have a rule book for 
that. 

547
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,080
That would just be like, you can
do whatever you want. 

548
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,920
You can swap costumes, you can 
swap characters. 

549
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,600
Nobody. 
Really can. 

550
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,520
But I like that. 
I like that. 

551
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080
I genuinely like that. 
I like that it restricted the 

552
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,200
coaching, You know, I don't, I 
don't mind coaching and fighting

553
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,120
him too much as long as there's 
like guardrails around it 

554
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,200
because it also set time 
boundaries. 

555
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,760
The other thing was 10 seconds. 
You have to rematch within 10 

556
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,160
seconds. 
I like that. 

557
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840
I like having rules of people 
can't just ice each other 

558
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,200
arbitrarily. 
It's like in any sports game, 

559
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840
you have a time out, you have a 
limited number of time outs. 

560
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,920
Like the way you you manage the 
clock is part of the strategy of

561
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,520
the game. 
And I like having that formality

562
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,280
around it. 
To me, that was kind of nice. 

563
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,600
I kind of hope that that 
inspires a sort of like rule set

564
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,040
and further exhibition matches 
to keep it feeling professional 

565
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,680
and serious. 
I think something about that 

566
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,040
made it feel more serious even 
though I don't think much of it 

567
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,360
applied because a lot of the 
roles were like taking breaks 

568
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,760
and all that. 
Dude this is Street Fighter six,

569
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,080
this shit does not take long. 
This first attend took like 40 

570
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240
minutes of gameplay. 
It wasn't that long, but even 

571
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,320
then, I think Daigo did call a 
timeout like he did look at his 

572
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,000
book for a while. 
I don't know what was in that. 

573
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,160
I don't know what was in that 
book. 

574
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,680
I swear men is Mena's notebook 
was empty. 

575
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,800
I was looking at it. 
I was like MENA scrolling at 

576
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,960
nothing. 
I I like I didn't see any words.

577
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,840
I Daigo actually had something 
circled. 

578
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,680
I wonder what was that thing 
circled in his book. 

579
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,800
But but when MENA was looking at
his notebook, I was like I don't

580
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,120
see any words there. 
I I don't know. 

581
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Yeah, MENA. 
So what happened was after Daigo

582
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,040
went up to a MENA had a 5 game 
win streak, somewhere in that 

583
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160
five game win streak, Daigo did 
call the time outbreak. 

584
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,080
And yeah, I, I wish we could get
the translation maybe, maybe and

585
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,400
post we can get that page, 
Google's translated or 

586
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,840
something. 
But he had something circled in 

587
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,280
the notes, a clear shot of his 
notebook, very clear. 

588
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,080
And MENA Rd. was flipping 
through his, his kind of looked 

589
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,960
more like, a little like a, like
a autographed book that you take

590
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,240
to Disney World, you know, like 
maybe he's got to go to, to 

591
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,840
Disneyland in Japan or 
something. 

592
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,720
Get, get someone's autograph on 
this page. 

593
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,800
I'll get Mickey Mouse. 
And you know, but it seemed 

594
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:33,400
pretty. 
Yeah. 

595
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,120
I couldn't see what was written 
in there either. 

596
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,280
It might just be like I'm MENA 
like. 

597
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,600
Fucking ball. 
Wait a minute, I'm MENA. 

598
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,880
Wait a minute. 
No, it was like it's like wait 

599
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,480
if ever losing pop level 2 or 
something like that. 

600
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,200
That's the other big narrative, 
because what started happening 

601
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:56,000
in the five games that MENA Rd. 
started to win every game, 

602
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,440
nearly every game of the set, 
both players had a round. 

603
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Nearly every single game. 
I believe Daigo only lost two 

604
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,040
games where he didn't get a 
round, and nearly every game 

605
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Daigo won the first round. 
And then what happens in that 

606
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,800
second round is an early level 2
activation from NRD with Blanca 

607
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,840
early enough where he starts 
building meter again to get a 

608
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,200
second level 2 in the final 
round. 

609
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,480
So there was a lot the discourse
around this right now is there's

610
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,120
a lot of people complaining 
about that level 2 from from 

611
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,400
Blanca. 
People are not happy that Daigo 

612
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,920
was dealing with that. 
But I will say I feel like Daigo

613
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,160
played around the level 2 really
well as well as you. 

614
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Can well yeah, I guess as well 
as you can. 

615
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,240
I feel like Daigo got killed by 
level 2 but that's that's just 

616
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,960
how Blanca level 2 is. 
You're going to get punished for

617
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,120
blocking. 
I think Daigo did hit like one 

618
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,920
anti air DP on the level 2, but 
even then you're you're taking 

619
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,480
so much drive meter and blocking
is just not even the right 

620
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,480
answer. 
So you're kind of just going to 

621
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,840
lose our get throw loop to put 
in the corner or something. 

622
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,560
That's just how strong 
Blocking's level 2 is. 

623
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,600
Yeah, yeah. 
What do you, what do you feel 

624
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:09,920
about that? 
Like there's a lot of people 

625
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,040
complaining with the level 2 
right now. 

626
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,480
Like I'm seeing the YouTube 
comments already. 

627
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560
My YouTube comments are crazy. 
They're they're they're pissed. 

628
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,320
They're pissed at Meta 
specifically for like designing 

629
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Blanca level 2. 
Like how dare you men already 

630
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,680
put this into the game? 
I, I, I, I'm numb to it. 

631
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,800
I feel like people complain 
about blocking level 2, right? 

632
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,760
That's, that's a Street Fighter 
six problem, man. 

633
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,120
You're you're complaining about 
the wrong thing. 

634
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040
But it's also just in the game, 
you know, it's. 

635
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200
It's inherently A6 problem, like
you're getting punished for 

636
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,440
blocking. 
That's that's Blanca's level 2. 

637
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,160
But that's that's a lot of the 
game, too. 

638
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440
But here's my thing, I think the
Daigo fanboy is getting pissed 

639
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,040
about this and you're you're 
Daigo explicitly said, don't 

640
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,200
make excuses for me, man. 
Like that's it. 

641
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480
I, I, I agree that these things 
could be changed or, you know, 

642
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,880
tweaked for balance reasons, 
whatever. 

643
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,440
I do think Blanca level 2 is a 
little overtuned for sure, But I

644
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,640
think for a moment I wanted I 
wanted I go to win two. 

645
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,680
Come on. 
But for a moment, when you enter

646
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,800
that arena, the game is the 
game, right? 

647
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,280
Like you agree to this. 
This is the game. 

648
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,000
And I think there's a beauty in 
just accepting whatever it is in

649
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,560
that moment, you know, and not 
trying to, like, tarnish the 

650
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,480
perspective of it for by, by, 
you know, disparaging someone 

651
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000
for using the game-winning 
strategy to win. 

652
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Yeah, no, first game is the 
game. 

653
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,360
Like I said, I don't think 
Daigo's complaining. 

654
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,960
That's more so like for all the 
people on YouTube and Twitter 

655
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,360
saying oh, Blanco level 2 is 
broken, yeah, it's like, that's 

656
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,200
the game, man. 
There's nothing you can really 

657
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,840
do. 
I don't think Daigo's like, man,

658
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560
I'm going to go to Calcom and 
get blocked a level 2 ner after 

659
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,320
this first at 10. 
I should have won, but this is 

660
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,240
how the game work, man. 
I feel like people just got to 

661
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
realize that. 
You might not have to. 

662
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,280
We'll see. 
This might be the final day on 

663
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,000
the coffin for that level too, 
because I, I think it was even 

664
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,120
turning to break into Japanese 
Twitter a little bit. 

665
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,960
I saw some people, some Japanese
Twitter accounts, like what the 

666
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Hell's going on with that level 
too, man? 

667
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Like it was hard to break 
containment. 

668
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,400
I mean, this set at this point 
in time, I, I glanced at the 

669
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,640
viewership. 
I had a lot. 

670
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,040
I had crazy viewership on 
YouTube. 

671
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,480
I had like three 3000 people on 
Twitch and 7000 people on 

672
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,840
YouTube which is insane. 
I couldn't believe that when 

673
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,520
everyone and I'm not even paying
attention to the YouTube chat, 

674
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,720
whatever opened it up. 
It blew my mind. 

675
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,880
But then when you look at the 
reject Japanese stream, the 

676
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,960
official American stream I think
had 8000 viewers on just Twitch 

677
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,400
and then the YouTube stream for 
Japan had over 100,000 and that 

678
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,720
was like right before the 
official stream. 

679
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,720
And so it might have peaked 
higher. 

680
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,480
You know, I wasn't checking and 
then the the all the restream 

681
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,960
there was restreamers before the
event started. 

682
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200
I was browsing the section 
11,000 views whatever. 

683
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,640
Like so many people with like 
you know, 5 plus digit 

684
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,160
viewership restreaming the event
for Japan. 

685
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,600
This was a big fucking deal for 
the Japanese audience. 

686
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,120
This is a big, big deal. 
So if there's ever a time for 

687
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,000
Blanca Level 2 to be, you know, 
under the microscope a little 

688
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,199
bit it it might be this one. 
I don't know. 

689
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:15,120
Yeah, I it is crazy how many 
people just tuned in to watch, 

690
00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:17,920
but I think that's why they had 
to get Daigo versus MENA just 

691
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,440
for the legacy and, you know, 
Daigo kind of, I don't want to 

692
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,440
say it was all Daigo. 
Obviously MENA has like plenty 

693
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,480
of fans around the world and 
like people are tuning in to 

694
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,480
watch MEN as well, but the Diego
Legacy match really did just 

695
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,480
kind of help boost the 
viewership so much and got so 

696
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,400
many people just interested in 
this first attack. 

697
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,040
Yeah, but it's like 95% Diego's 
legacy. 

698
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,199
Yeah, that's, I would say 90. 
I would say like it's 8020. 

699
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,840
You have to get the right 
opponent for Daigo, but without 

700
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Daigo this doesn't happen. 
You put any other two, any other

701
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,840
player combination in the world,
that doesn't happen. 

702
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,239
You put Daigo versus almost 
anybody in the top 50 and most 

703
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,360
of this happens. 
MENA Rd. takes it to the next 

704
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,440
level for sure. 
I think MENA Rd. is obviously 

705
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,400
the best opponent for this. 
Like if there had to be a set 

706
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
for this to happen it would be 
MENA Rd. 

707
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,080
No, I actually, I think if it 
was like Daigo Versus, they 

708
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,320
could have got Daigo Versus 
Taquito. 

709
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,920
Taquito don't get a. 
Man, game going on. 

710
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,440
I feel, I feel like you think 
so. 

711
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,840
I think so. 
If it was Daigo versus Taquito, 

712
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,360
I think it'll probably be up 
there. 

713
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Daigo versus no. 
I even think a Daigo versus no, 

714
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,800
the charm would be this. 
A Daigo versus Blas would have 

715
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,240
been great. 
Daigo versus BLAS could have 

716
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:35,320
worked. 
That could have worked, but it 

717
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,640
had to be someone who's been 
winning. 

718
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,280
Like, no, if you, if you put 
Diagon Taquito, no disrespect to

719
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,280
either of those players, it 
would be hype, but it would also

720
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,200
be a little bit of like we're 
watching. 

721
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,880
But then Diego versus Justin and
Justin don't even play 6 like 

722
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,720
that and people would have still
tuned in to watch. 

723
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,600
I would have been. 
Like this, but that's not that's

724
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,840
watching. 
You're watching grandpa 

725
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,440
reminisce about the glory days. 
Like there has to be this 

726
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,240
component of a recent champion 
and the the the most winningest 

727
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:03,840
champion right now we have is 
MENA Rd. 

728
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,200
MENA Rd. has been he won the 
back-to-back Evo Japan. 

729
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,840
He's in Japan. 
It has to be MENA Rd. 

730
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,840
If Blas would be the close 
second, like if Blas had won all

731
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,880
first place in all these 
tournaments, then it would have 

732
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,520
been like a a battle of 
generations. 

733
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,640
You know what I mean? 
And also people had that 

734
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,880
comparison between Blas style 
playing Ryu in the shotos and 

735
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,400
young Daigo. 
You know, like there's there's 

736
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920
like some through lines there. 
So I can see Blas. 

737
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,840
But if you start putting Daigo 
versus Tokido, I'm sorry. 

738
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,200
That's like man, remember the 
good old days? 

739
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:35,720
Like it's not this. 
This had a a bit more firepower 

740
00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:39,640
to it because it's an actual 
heavy hitter. 

741
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,400
Not to say to Akito isn't, but 
he hasn't won a championship in 

742
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,720
Street Fighter Six. 
Besides, you know him and Diego 

743
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,040
hanging out with Budo and Lashar
Worlds. 

744
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,920
I don't know, I I do feel like 
it it was still a good set. 

745
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,960
They kind of, I think they could
have picked so many other 

746
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,320
people, but Daigo, Daigo meta 
was probably 8020. 

747
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,960
But even then, I think if they 
got two other different people, 

748
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,680
it could have been great and 
probably closer. 

749
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,040
But that's not that's not to say
that this match was a blowout 

750
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:12,920
anyway. 
It wasn't, It was a really good 

751
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,680
set. 
After those first five games in 

752
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,680
a row, though, it was starting 
to get a little worrisome. 

753
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,640
It was 25 and then Daigo, Oh my 
God, the Umay Shore use came 

754
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,960
out. 
He I think was like a six or six

755
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,840
for six or seven for seven on 
wake up. 

756
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,720
ODD. 
PS: Sometimes back-to-back to 

757
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,840
back on on wake up, like every 
single knock down, just waking 

758
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:36,120
up with ODDP putting 3 on the 
board and actually making the 

759
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,040
set 55. 
Come on like that was obviously 

760
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,520
the peak of the set right there.
But Daigo made the set 55 and in

761
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,960
every game that he lost, like I 
said, it was it was around on 

762
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,320
the board. 
They were close rounds every 

763
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,560
single time. 
And you know, it wasn't just 

764
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,680
level 2. 
That's a huge part of it, of 

765
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,440
course, but like men already is 
playing amazing when the 

766
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,280
fireball game perfect berries on
point, the the spacing on point 

767
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:04,000
and like it was, they were both 
playing very clean. 

768
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,800
There was little to no flubs 
from either player. 

769
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,160
There's a handful, but it was 
very limited. 

770
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,680
Man, I had a lot of good slides 
on Daigo's fireball patterns as 

771
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,160
well. 
Even with perfect parry, he 

772
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,800
wasn't getting like punished 
counter slides, but he would 

773
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,840
always like perfect parry and 
slide immediately and I don't 

774
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,560
think Daigo was really looking 
for that one thing. 

775
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,320
I do think Daigo didn't do 
enough and I hate to backseat 

776
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,560
'cause I, you know, I hate 
backseating and tell people on a

777
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,840
place you're going to say I 
don't think Daigo fireball 

778
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,240
drivers enough. 
I feel like he he never drive 

779
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:36,440
rush after fireball it. 
Watching Diego play 6 is so 

780
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,160
funny 'cause that was probably 
the best fireball game I've ever

781
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,920
seen in Street Fighter 6 during 
that set. 

782
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:45,680
But you, that's incredible. 
Yeah, you have to fireball Dr. 

783
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,120
Rush like it's you're not 
playing the game correctly if 

784
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,880
you don't do it. 
Well, what about Slide? 

785
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,080
I feel like Blanca has a really 
good answer to Fireball Dr. 

786
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,360
Rush. 
Yeah, but that's not like 

787
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,320
certain spaces. 
Like if obviously if like he, if

788
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,680
he slides and punishes me, that 
kind of, you know, that sucks. 

789
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,320
But even if you do like a 
fireball and Dr. Rush 

790
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,040
immediately and Blanco get the 
perfect parry, you're you're 

791
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,840
going to collide with his slide.
Or if he doesn't get the perfect

792
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,440
parry, you're already just going
to be in there anyway. 

793
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,520
Maybe, maybe he could 
incorporate more of those. 

794
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:15,320
I mean, yeah, it was very 
interesting. 

795
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,280
It did remind me a lot of like 
Street Fighter 4 Diego because 

796
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,840
he had a lot of tech. 
Like he also had another thing I

797
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
didn't bring up his his safe 
jump routing was really good. 

798
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,080
Like he had really specific 
combo routes to do safe jumps on

799
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,400
Blanca. 
And you know, doing a safe jump 

800
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,040
on a charge character is good 
because they're forced to block 

801
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,800
standing and they get rid of 
their reversal charge, which 

802
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,200
limits one of the reversal 
options. 

803
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,080
I say one for Blanca because he 
still has his stupid up back 

804
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,040
plunk a ball, but that's that's 
strong because you know the next

805
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,160
mix is safer to go for strike 
throw. 

806
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,120
And then he even had moments 
where he mixed an empty jump 

807
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,600
from that and got the grab and 
then Rd. attempt to the perfect 

808
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,320
Perry on the on the the safe 
jump. 

809
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,520
He got the grab. 
So he had he had a bunch of 

810
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,880
these little things where you 
could clearly see match up tech,

811
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,360
which I feel like is pretty 
fucking rare Street Fighter 

812
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,120
sticks. 
Like there was clear match up 

813
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,240
awareness from Daigo sprinkled 
in there. 

814
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,720
Yeah, but maybe fireball drivers
would have helped out. 

815
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,400
He had a few combo route flubs. 
He didn't he a lot of people 

816
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,080
were critiquing him for not 
routing into Level 3 more often,

817
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,280
but I don't know about that. 
He he would often get hits 

818
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,640
towards the last round where 
spending Level 3 would have just

819
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,800
gotten Menard D closer to CA and
not burnt him out. 

820
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,040
You know, like he had those 
those level threes where you 

821
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,440
only have like 20% taken off and
you get the hit. 

822
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,400
Like do you cash out to Level 3 
then or not? 

823
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,040
People, people were critiquing 
him for that. 

824
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,760
I don't think MENA used a single
Level 3 that set. 

825
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,400
I think it was all just level 2.
So yeah. 

826
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,720
So I actually if he wasn't CA it
that didn't really matter in my 

827
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,520
opinion. 
Right. 

828
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,640
I mean, but you know what I'm 
saying like that that kind of do

829
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,800
you save it for the final hits 
or do you spend it early level 

830
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,560
threes because Zago died with a 
lot of super meter. 

831
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Yeah, that's what happened in a 
lot of situations because he 

832
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,560
couldn't find that touch at to 
close out the round. 

833
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,320
But I like that he had that 
threat because like if he got 

834
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,000
those touches on any of those 
rounds, he won. 

835
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,880
So he just never found the 
touch. 

836
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,080
So I don't know if that's a 
fault in the strategy or if it's

837
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,120
just how it played out. 
Because if he found the last hit

838
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,880
and, and and any number of these
rounds, he would have won the 

839
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,680
set because it was he got around
in every game except for two of 

840
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,320
them. 
So it could have easily have 

841
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,800
flipped the score. 
But you know, as it were on, you

842
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,840
know, it was 553 straight for 
MENA, so it was 85. 

843
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,360
Dago gets a game on the board, 
make it 86, and then Meta Rd. 

844
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,560
closes it out with the final 210
six but A-106-A close 10-6. 

845
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:48,440
Mind you, it was pretty good it.
Was a very respectable. 

846
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,200
I feel like that kind of hits 
the mark of respectable in a 

847
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,680
first 10106 and hires honestly 
fine like you did your thing. 

848
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,840
And it was a close 10-6. 
Like obviously most people are 

849
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,960
just. 
OK, OK, OK. 

850
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,720
OK. 
OK. 

851
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,680
For the 10 this close, 10-6, 
they got to stop, right? 

852
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,400
I get it. 
You're it. 

853
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,800
Matters for the live experience.
Oh my, it was a close 10-6. 

854
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,360
It's 10-6. 
Nobody's going to remember it 

855
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,080
was a close 10-6. 
It was 10/6. 

856
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,600
For the live I, I also agree 
with what you're saying because 

857
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,920
like right now what I'm doing, 
I'm looking at Event Hubs right 

858
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,640
now and I'm seeing the game set 
count and I see 10-6 and that's 

859
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,600
going to be what history 
remembers IS106. 

860
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,360
But for the live viewership, I 
think it matters because there 

861
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,280
was tension in every single 
game, right, except for one or 

862
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,880
two. 
There was tension in all these 

863
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,880
games. 
And I think that absolutely 

864
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,080
matters for the the live viewing
experience. 

865
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,200
But history will remember 10-6 
like you're not wrong there for 

866
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,960
sure. 
And so MENA Rd. took it and it 

867
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,440
was a little anti climactic in 
the end compared to like the 

868
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,560
momentum of hype when it built 
to the 55. 

869
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,640
I I think narratively of course 
the best case scenario would 

870
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,200
have been like 10-9 MENA Rd. or 
Daigo. 

871
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Like if it was 10/9 either one 
of them could have won. 

872
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,320
If Daigo wins, Earth is 
shattered but if MENA wins 10-9 

873
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,320
it's also like holy shit like 
the errors can compete Daigo's 

874
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,760
in it you know what I mean? 
It would have been crazy either 

875
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,400
way, but we got an OK ending I 
feel. 

876
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,200
Like it said 10-6 is 10/6 is 
good. 

877
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,520
I like I said nobody had over 5 
games for Daigo probably and to 

878
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,600
me 10-6 is good. 
I don't think unless you're like

879
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,560
super nostalgic bias to how 
Daigo is going to win then 

880
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,040
obviously you had Daigo winning.
But nobody, no sane person had 

881
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,440
Daigo getting over 5 games. 
There's a lot of people who who 

882
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,360
did, though. 
There's a lot of insane people 

883
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:37,080
watching this. 
Yeah. 

884
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Yeah. 
No sane person had it. 

885
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Yeah, yeah, for sure. 
I mean, I for a moment there, I 

886
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,400
was believing Daigo when he said
I'll be Santa. 

887
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,040
I was like, holy shit, Santa's 
coming to the Street Fighter 6 

888
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,000
and Daigo's going to deliver the
LS to MENA Rd. 

889
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,160
But it didn't work out that way.
And then, you know, Speaking of 

890
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,560
the the end ceremony, what were 
they doing? 

891
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,160
Man? 
Let's talk about the production.

892
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,560
I I feel like they didn't have a
plan for how to end this show. 

893
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,200
They, they forced Daigo and MENA
just to stand there. 

894
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,360
They look like cut outs of 
themselves. 

895
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,280
They're just standing there at 
at the crowd. 

896
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,160
They made Daigo sign him a shirt
and give it to MENA. 

897
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,280
Maybe they thought, you know, it
was it was the wrong ending. 

898
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,360
They had two endings in place. 
But the the ending where Daigo 

899
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,600
one and all the confetti comes 
coming from the ceiling and 

900
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,440
everyone popping off and jumping
for joy. 

901
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,280
That was the good ending. 
When we got the bad ending in 

902
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,560
Japan. 
So meta one. 

903
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,960
And then they were like, oh 
shit, we didn't think this far. 

904
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,280
And then it was like, let's make
Daigo sign his jersey or 

905
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:32,880
something. 
Yeah, they gave him like an 

906
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,040
extra small jersey to to give to
MENA. 

907
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,200
Like, what is this? 
Like, what are you? 

908
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Yeah. 
It's like we didn't think this 

909
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,560
through. 
It was kind of weird. 

910
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,520
I was like, they should have 
made Daigo give MENA already the

911
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,760
sweaty jersey off his back or 
something like he did. 

912
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Good kid. 
You got a bright future ahead of

913
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,800
you. 
Here cash, it just meta cashes 

914
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,520
to Jersey. 
It's like, thanks, thanks. 

915
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,920
Yeah, that's what it might as 
well at that point. 

916
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:56,040
Yeah, it was kind of weird. 
And they cut back to the 

917
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,480
commentary desk with Rin, Jipes 
and Justin. 

918
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,920
And you can still see MENA and 
Daigo just staring at the crowd 

919
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,840
head on. 
And the crowd is like right 

920
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,280
there. 
And they're all in, you know, 

921
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,720
these these rows of fold out 
chairs sitting there very 

922
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:11,120
politely staring at them. 
And they just had this moment of

923
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,960
staring at each other in the 
eyes. 

924
00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,680
And then the commentators are 
just like wrapping up the event.

925
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080
And eventually you see someone 
from production walk up to them 

926
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,720
and be like, oh, yeah, we're 
done here. 

927
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:23,320
You can like, get out. 
So it was a little production 

928
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,280
wise, definitely not the 
cleanest or the most hype. 

929
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,000
To be fair, that was the first 
Evil Legends. 

930
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,920
I didn't even know this thing 
was going to happen until like a

931
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,040
few months ago anyway. 
So to be fair, this is very last

932
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,680
minute. 
And I think if they do do 

933
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,760
another EVO Legends event 
actually, what? 

934
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Isn't the Tyler one versus 
Ludwig match technically an EVO 

935
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:47,000
Legends match, right? 
So maybe they'll do. 

936
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,520
Maybe they'll do it better for 
our even. 

937
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,480
It's a lot of what you need to 
practice the fucking game. 

938
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Tyler's out here getting high 
master of 1 and Dunny and 

939
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,440
blocking every single person who
beats him in the game. 

940
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,240
Blame modern Guile doing only 
flash kick and Otto combos to 

941
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:04,520
level 1 and he's going to beat 
your ass. 

942
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,760
He's going to beat your ass like
that. 

943
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,920
Evil legends. 
That's an evil legend match 

944
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,760
that. 
That's our evil legends. 

945
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,640
You know, Japan gets Daigo and 
MENA, We get Ludwig and Tyler 1,

946
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:21,400
you know, and I'm super excited 
for it because I get to watch, I

947
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,480
get to watch Ludwig play his 
Honda, right? 

948
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,200
His Honda classic Honda, his his
platinum Honda. 

949
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,880
I mean, Tyler's legit grinding 
the game, man. 

950
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,080
He's he's he has solid game 
awareness. 

951
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,600
I mean, I don't agree with his 
one and done and block strategy,

952
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,280
but he's at least building his 
fundamental awareness. 

953
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,120
Like he has great timing and and
anti airs. 

954
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,400
You know, he has great patience.
He's playing guile for real. 

955
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,160
He's throwing the fireball and 
he's doing the flash kick when 

956
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,080
they jump right, great. 
Like you got it. 

957
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,480
You know, just keep building 
from that foundation and he's 

958
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,360
putting the grind in. 
So I can respect that. 

959
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,280
Ludwig, however. 
It's OK Ludwig's grind grinding 

960
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,240
rivals of you there. 
He's grinding, getting people to

961
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,000
enter the tournament because 
that's his. 

962
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,240
For Rivals of the Game. 
Yeah, that's his. 

963
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:10,000
That's the game his his 
publishing company owns anyways.

964
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,920
That yeah, that's what we get. 
Hey, we'll get right. 

965
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,480
Back to the discussion, but 
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966
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967
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968
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,520
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972
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973
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974
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975
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976
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Also still being extremely 

977
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978
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979
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980
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981
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Also the extra buttons and 
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982
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983
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Me personally, I like to use an 

984
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985
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The customization of course 

986
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,000
extends to the fashion because 
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987
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993
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sponsoring this episode. 
OK, back to the discussion, but 

994
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,080
MENA Rd. 
Wraps up though, what do you 

995
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,000
think about the legacy impact 
for both these players from 

996
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,360
this? 
Is Daigo retiring? 

997
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,840
He's not in EVO Japan, for 
example. 

998
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,320
Are we going to see more from 
Daigo? 

999
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,600
What about MENA Rd. 
What are we thinking? 

1000
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,200
How are we feeling after this? 
I feel like Daigo just isn't 

1001
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,720
playing in EVO Japan because he 
wanted to practice. 

1002
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,800
I don't think Daigo is going to 
go to many tournaments this 

1003
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640
year. 
Not because you know, he thinks 

1004
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,640
Street Fighter 6 sucks or 
anything, but he's already 

1005
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,440
qualified. 
So it's like, why it's it's kind

1006
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,000
of one reason I don't like the 
auto qualifier. 

1007
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,280
Like obviously if you're Capcom 
Cup champion, you could 

1008
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:00,920
obviously just like sit on your 
ass. 

1009
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,000
But the Street Fighter League 
team, it's just like there's 

1010
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,280
four really good players and 
like you don't have to play. 

1011
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,840
That happened last year with 
good 8 squad where like Kowano 

1012
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,960
didn't really travel. 
So I think Daigo's kind of in 

1013
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,800
the same boat. 
Luckily, like now Daigo's like, 

1014
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,680
oh I just got to sit at home and
grind for a Capcom Cup now. 

1015
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,720
Yeah, I wonder if that will 
continue, if his motivation will

1016
00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:24,640
carry over, right. 
Because this made me more 

1017
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,400
excited about that auto 
qualification for sure. 

1018
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,080
Because I, I have the same 
critique and we talked about it 

1019
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,880
that I think only the Captain 
Cup championship auto qualify, 

1020
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,320
the Street Fighter League auto 
qualification is shoehorned in 

1021
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,920
there for sure, just because 
they're trying to pump Street 

1022
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,240
Fighter League up in terms of 
reward and importance by any 

1023
00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,720
means necessary. 
Good 8 squad, they all auto 

1024
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:46,080
qualified, They all got washed 
round one and Captain Cup and 

1025
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,120
Quano apologized. 
He's like, sorry, we were lazy, 

1026
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,600
my bad. 
Yeah, none, none of them 

1027
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,640
travelled. 
None of them wanted to go 

1028
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:52,920
anywhere. 
It's just, it was so. 

1029
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,960
But like I said, it makes sense.
It's like, do I, I don't have to

1030
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,440
travel because I'm already 
qualified. 

1031
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,440
If I win an event, I get like a 
couple of $1000 something, 

1032
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,840
nothing crazy. 
So you might as well just sit at

1033
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,000
home and practice and you get 
good practice online anyway, 

1034
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,040
right? 
So for Daigo, I wonder what that

1035
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,800
means, because. 
This really did make me excited 

1036
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,840
about his gameplay. 
He played really fucking good. 

1037
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,480
Like obviously this is a 
reflection of his intense focus 

1038
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,680
on one player, one match up, 
which is different than trying 

1039
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,320
to be prepared for any opponent 
that you might get in a first to

1040
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,760
two, first to three situation 
where you'd have little to no 

1041
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,600
control of your opponents. 
But I was like, dude, if Dago 

1042
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,440
can play like that more 
consistently, he absolutely 

1043
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,160
could be a massive threat in 
Captain Cup. 

1044
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Like this was world class 
caliber Street Fighter through 

1045
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,400
and through, no excuses there. 
And we've seen those flashes of 

1046
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:46,880
brilliance from him with this 
like second place at the Japan 

1047
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,960
World warrior #2 event and in 
the past season, but he hasn't 

1048
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,120
crossed that finish line with 
first at any point. 

1049
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,160
This makes me excited for a 
Daigo season if he decides to 

1050
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,200
keep travelling because he made 
that effort before, even if he 

1051
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,080
wasn't doing well, he was 
travelling the world just to 

1052
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,800
like show up. 
Hey, I'm Daigo, come to the 

1053
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,440
tournaments, right? 
Like he was doing his job, he 

1054
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,840
felt. 
I hope this leads to a season 

1055
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,880
ahead where he's actually 
competing because he has Captain

1056
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,800
Cup. 
So maybe we get one last good 

1057
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,280
season of Daigo because, yeah, 
how long has he got to keep 

1058
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,080
doing it for, right? 
That really does. 

1059
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,920
It really does beg that 
question, How long is he going 

1060
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,640
to really push his limits? 
I'm hoping this is one last big 

1061
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,400
run for Daigo. 
You, you want the last dance, 

1062
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,080
but even I don't know, for Daigo
it's much weirder because like, 

1063
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,120
you know, for a lot of the older
players, you know, like Sako, 

1064
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,400
like you know, you're older, you
have wife and kids. 

1065
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,120
Daigo doesn't got wife and kids.
So it's much, it's so much 

1066
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,760
different for him. 
Yeah, this is his life. 

1067
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,400
Some speculation. 
I do think he has a partner or 

1068
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,880
is married or something. 
But he he keeps that. 

1069
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,880
If he does, he keeps that side 
of his personal life very 

1070
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,800
private, which I, you know, I, I
respect that. 

1071
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:53,960
Whatever, that's his 
prerogative. 

1072
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,560
But you just have kids. 
Unless he does. 

1073
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,600
I don't know. 
That would be crazy. 

1074
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,240
Die Diego. 
Diego's training. 

1075
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:02,200
The next generation himself. 
Yeah. 

1076
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,520
So yeah, this this is what he 
does and it's what he has fun 

1077
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,400
with, He says. 
So we'll see. 

1078
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:11,400
But legacy wise, do you think he
took a hit? 

1079
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,160
He was undefeated in the high 
profile exhibition first 

1080
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,800
attends. 
He lost this one. 

1081
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,760
Does it? 
Does it take a hit to his 

1082
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,760
legacy? 
This I, I saw a lot of people on

1083
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,800
Twitter making this comparison 
and honestly, I think it's the 

1084
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,120
best way to kind of compare 
this. 

1085
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,840
This is like when you watch the 
Undertaker lose to Brock Lesnar 

1086
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,200
at WrestleMania. 
The streak was over, but 

1087
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,880
everyone still respects 
Undertaker, so it's kind of the 

1088
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,400
same thing. 
And obviously if you're putting 

1089
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,280
men on Brock Lesnar, they both, 
they were both just like super 

1090
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:40,760
dominant and everyone was kind 
of expecting this. 

1091
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,160
So to me, it's kind of the same 
thing. 

1092
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,200
Facts. 
Yeah, it really is the same 

1093
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,680
thing. 
No, I don't know anything about 

1094
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,560
wrestling, so I don't know what 
you're talking about, but I am 

1095
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,800
imagining. 
I am imagining now MENA R DS 

1096
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,040
head on Brock Lesnar's body 
going up against Dygo. 

1097
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,560
That's what Dygo saw walking 
into the ring. 

1098
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,440
Just the world's most ridiculous
human being yoked out of his 

1099
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,480
mind, just destroying him in 
Street Fighter. 

1100
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,800
Yeah, MENA Rd. is kind of the 
Brock Lesnar Street Fighter. 

1101
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,640
That's that's a crazy man to go 
into the ring with. 

1102
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:16,920
Yeah, but like I said, it's 
Undertaker was mad old. 

1103
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,000
Like, no disrespect, but 
Undertaker was really old. 

1104
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,440
You got to, you know, pass the 
torch. 

1105
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,080
And the young kid on the block, 
well, Brock Lesnar wasn't that 

1106
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,840
young. 
But yeah, the new kid on the 

1107
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,280
block just get kind of get out 
of class, man. 

1108
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:28,880
You got to hang it up. 
You got to hang it up 

1109
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,800
eventually. 
I'm not sure if Brock Lesnar was

1110
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,600
ever a kid. 
Has anyone confirmed that that 

1111
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,680
that dude is just that? 
That is this 500 lbs of muscle 

1112
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,600
head that just existed came into
this plane of existence to 

1113
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,880
destroy people in combat sports.
Yeah. 

1114
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,120
Yeah, I I agree. 
I don't think this has any 

1115
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,160
impact on Daigo's legacy. 
Especially what, like I said 

1116
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,120
before, after that video, 
dispelling all stakes and making

1117
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,440
it like a sad match, like people
had this air, like, oh, it's 

1118
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,360
going to be sad. 
Like grandpa getting beat up by 

1119
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:01,360
the young new player. 
His promotion video went out. 

1120
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,080
It made it feel powerful and 
like a respectful challenge. 

1121
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,280
If he won, it would be earth 
shattering. 

1122
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,000
Daigo's the goat of goats. 
He lost. 

1123
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,040
I don't think it actually 
impacts legacy. 

1124
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,840
People still respect the 
challenge and saw the level he 

1125
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,200
brought to the table. 
So I think there's no downside 

1126
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,000
for Daigo here. 
MENA Rd. however, you know, in a

1127
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,920
weird way, I don't know. 
I don't know if there was a win 

1128
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:29,480
win possible for him legacy wise
for this cause a lot of people 

1129
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,080
are so pissed at MENA Rd. and 
they don't like the way he won. 

1130
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:34,640
You know what I mean? 
There's something to be said 

1131
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,120
about how you win, not that I 
agree with it, but because most 

1132
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,640
people are casual fans, they if 
you win the wrong way, people 

1133
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,760
don't like that. 
And people see men already 

1134
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,760
playing with Blanca and winning 
with Level 2 and they don't like

1135
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,520
that. 
I've played so many fighting 

1136
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,120
games, no matter what, unless 
you're playing fireball, DP 

1137
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,360
character, everyone's going to 
hate how you win. 

1138
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,720
And honestly, even if you do 
that and six people hate how you

1139
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:01,520
win, so there's no, there's no 
right or wrong way to win. 

1140
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,480
So I I don't, I don't, you know,
trying to, I'm not trying to 

1141
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,360
discredit MENA. 
Obviously MENA won. 

1142
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,240
Congrats to MENA. 
It's you know, it's all good. 

1143
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,200
I'm not really surprised or 
shocked. 

1144
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,480
I just think it was kind of bad 
because if MENA lost, Oh my God,

1145
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:20,600
if MENA lost, I would have been 
like Daigo's the goat MENA MENA 

1146
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,880
Sox games ran. 
How do you lose the old washed 

1147
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,520
Daigo? 
So I'm just glad MENA won at the

1148
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:24,920
end of. 
This. 

1149
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,000
I actually don't think it would 
be bad for MENA if you lost. 

1150
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,480
I really don't thanks. 
I don't think so. 

1151
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,480
I think I think people are more 
angry that he lost. 

1152
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,560
I think if he or that he won, I 
think if he lost and put up a 

1153
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,040
good fight and he's he's been 
very respectful for Daigo this 

1154
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,680
whole time. 
You know what I mean? 

1155
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,240
Like I, I think, I honestly 
think reputation wise, legacy 

1156
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:47,920
wise, people would have been 
like, wow Mana, he's so 

1157
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,400
respectful of such a strong 
player. 

1158
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:52,440
I think the same person saying 
fuck you, MENA, you're bullshit 

1159
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,960
that you won level 2, you're a 
scrub. 

1160
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360
I think they would have been if 
MENA Rd. lost and Daigo won, 

1161
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,760
they'd be like, MENA, what a 
class act, you know, like keep 

1162
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,560
it up. 
You're building your legacy, but

1163
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,360
Daigo's obviously the greatest 
of all time, you know, and you 

1164
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,280
see that you respected it. 
I really respect that you 

1165
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,720
brought this challenge forward. 
You know, I guarantee you those 

1166
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:10,680
same players would be, could be 
saying the same thing. 

1167
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:14,080
There'd be a small minority 
trashing on him, but I, I 

1168
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,520
honestly feel like winning is 
almost like the worst thing he 

1169
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,720
could do because he's such such 
an established favorite in this 

1170
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:22,240
era that it, it feeds into that 
narrative of like, oh, you're 

1171
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,800
winning the wrong way. 
The game is random or whatever. 

1172
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,640
You know, the people who keep 
shifting the goal posts, the 

1173
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,880
casual fans, which I think is an
ugly thing to do. 

1174
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,840
I think that's an unfortunate 
consequence of people's minds 

1175
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,640
work that way. 
And I mean, it happens in all 

1176
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,080
the games, right? 
Like, hey, man, you know, 

1177
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,080
people, you yourself, people 
were not fans of Laura and 

1178
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,200
Street Fighter Five. 
You won Capcom Cup. 

1179
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,760
You went through this exact sort
of thing, right? 

1180
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,120
Yeah, 100%. 
But like I said, that just comes

1181
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:48,960
with the territory. 
You, you can't really be mad at 

1182
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,160
the way you're winning. 
If you're winning, great, you're

1183
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,760
winning. 
It doesn't really matter at the 

1184
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,200
end of the day. 
To me, it's all the only thing 

1185
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,440
that matters is if you're having
fun playing the way you're 

1186
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,880
playing. 
And if Mena's having fun popping

1187
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,440
Level 2 on that old man, it's so
good. 

1188
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,120
When I when I come up to Gramps 
and I, I do OD lightning into 

1189
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,120
level 2 when he has to hold it 
eight way makes nothing makes me

1190
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,360
feel more alive. 
Run their pockets real quick. 

1191
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Yeah, yeah, I'm sure he feels 
great about it. 

1192
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:22,200
Yeah. 
Fun set. 

1193
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,520
I mean, overall, I think this 
was a really good set. 

1194
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,600
I hope we see more of this in 
the future because I do think 

1195
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,640
there was an era of like kind of
flop sets in general. 

1196
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,000
I think in especially like 
American Western culture, I do 

1197
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:39,520
think we have an issue where we 
don't engage in these sorts of 

1198
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,240
things and give them the respect
and reverence they deserve. 

1199
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,760
Nobody trying to run a nobody 
trying to run a set in in in 

1200
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,680
America. 
The last good set that the 

1201
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:54,480
American FTC has had was Idon 
versus Justin Wong and Marvel 

1202
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,800
versus Capcom 3, because that's 
the best fighting game ever 

1203
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,880
made. 
But that was parallels here. 

1204
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,000
Parallels here. 
But the only difference, the 

1205
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,240
only difference in that set was 
I challenged Justin in a game 

1206
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,920
that he was legendary at. 
Yeah, he might have been watched

1207
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,280
and, you know, kind of older on 
the older side, but I challenged

1208
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,320
Justin in the old game. 
So that was kind of where it was

1209
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,680
kind of cool. 
A little bit, a little bit like,

1210
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,640
there's definitely parallels 
there, right? 

1211
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,280
A younger player beating up on a
wash. 

1212
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,160
Old vet trying to rob a. 
Legacy. 

1213
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,200
The difference is I challenge 
Justin. 

1214
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,560
I challenge Justin in an old 
game. 

1215
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,840
That's the difference. 
If MENA, if MENA played Diego 

1216
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,520
and Street Fighter Four, that 
would have been crazy. 

1217
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,440
Yeah. 
I mean, there's something 

1218
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,400
different about that though. 
I mean, those are fun, but I 

1219
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,320
think challenging someone in the
existing, like if I had to rank 

1220
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,440
the terms of importance, 
challenging someone in the 

1221
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,960
existing competitive game is 
always the highest tier, right? 

1222
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,080
Like that's always the highest 
tier. 

1223
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,320
I do think those other sets are 
like going back to older games 

1224
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,200
like that and trying to meet on 
a, a common playing ground like 

1225
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,480
that is fun. 
But I will always hold something

1226
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,560
about the the current main 
competitive game that you are 

1227
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:05,880
all focusing on is obviously to 
me the the most, the one that 

1228
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,160
gets the most reverence. 
The other ones are fun and cool 

1229
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,720
and have stakes and are 
entertaining for sure. 

1230
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,840
And I I I like those, but it's 
still it leans more fun than 

1231
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,560
legacy. 
You get what I'm saying? 

1232
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,560
But but fun's the most important
factor of them all. 

1233
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,400
Aren't we all playing fighting 
games for fun? 

1234
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,560
Even Daigo said we're all 
playing fighting games for fun, 

1235
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,280
so fun would be top priority. 
Yeah, but there's also fun in 

1236
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,680
fighting to the death. 
Did you? 

1237
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,200
You got to listen to what 
Daigo's saying. 

1238
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,680
He's not saying I want you to 
challenge me, he said in that 

1239
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,720
same video. 
It's about what you do here and 

1240
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,240
now and and and giving it your 
all for the pushing forward. 

1241
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,000
Just because you're playing a 16
or 17 year old game doesn't mean

1242
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,440
you're not having fun in it. 
Just like it's it doesn't matter

1243
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,680
how old your game is, it's 
still. 

1244
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,720
Fun yeah I mean Kameno Michi 
even had sets like that where 

1245
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,560
they're doing throwback games 
and I think those are those are 

1246
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,640
definitely cool but it's still 
it's a little different to me 

1247
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,520
it's still a little bit 
different it's it's the active 

1248
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,680
game that people are competing 
in and I mean it's just a 

1249
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,080
different it's also a different 
realm because only video games 

1250
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,040
really have this because think 
about like chess for example the

1251
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,200
only thing that you have varied 
between chess over the hundreds 

1252
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,160
how many years has has it been 
thousands yet is is the formats 

1253
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,680
right The the there's variance 
in the formats of how you 

1254
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,080
actually compete but the rules 
are mostly the same right so I 

1255
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:27,720
think there's. 
A unique issue with video games 

1256
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,960
where like we keep getting 
different games and they get 

1257
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,360
updated also. 
And so there's not like a common

1258
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,640
ground you can always meet on. 
You have to choose the 

1259
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:37,480
battleground and it varies 
through patches. 

1260
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,880
So it's a It's a difficult thing
to compare. 

1261
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,920
What you're saying is we need 
the perfect fighting game where 

1262
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,680
the ultimate Tesla skill is 
always measured in that one 

1263
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:48,600
fighting game and we all have to
agree on that. 

1264
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,320
And that game is. 
You don't want to hear from me, 

1265
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,840
Exclamation. 
Point Glaze, yeah. 

1266
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:00,840
You don't want to hear from me? 
Yeah. 

1267
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,560
People are going to disagree 
always on what that game is and 

1268
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,800
they're always going to shift 
the goal posts. 

1269
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,960
Like that's why some people are 
like, why did men are deep 

1270
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,600
challenge Diego in Street 
Fighter four? 

1271
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,200
It's like, dude, we're competing
right now in Street Fighter six.

1272
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,120
This is where it is right now 
like that. 

1273
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,600
This is where the competition 
is. 

1274
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,520
I don't know. 
I, I, I, I think that will 

1275
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:21,000
always be Tier 1, but I will 
always if we have to go back to 

1276
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,200
do exhibition sets and old 
games, I'm down for it too man. 

1277
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,440
But wow, I would like more tier 
one active pro competitors. 

1278
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,200
No excuses giving it their all. 
I think there's always built in 

1279
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,320
OSS. 
That's the problem. 

1280
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,120
I think we have too many people,
too many players have built in 

1281
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,040
OSS for everything. 
It's very rare for people to be 

1282
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,640
like, I give it my off, I get my
ass beat. 

1283
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:44,560
I got my ass beat and and we're 
sorely lacking that in this day 

1284
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:45,760
and age. 
I agree. 

1285
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,440
I do think we we needed more of 
that. 

1286
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,280
Even in Street Fighter Five we 
didn't have too many sets like 

1287
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,960
that. 
But yeah, going into 6 they're 

1288
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,200
kind of non existent. 
Like even in Street Fighter 

1289
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,800
Five, we had the whole Midwest 
versus. 

1290
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,280
West Coast Exhibition. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1291
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,080
We did that comma breaker. 
And you know that what inspires 

1292
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,080
that is because the lack of 
exposure. 

1293
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,080
That was because it was COVID 
really, right? 

1294
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,520
Like we're not competing with 
each other. 

1295
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,040
So that's the difference between
the online era and the CPT era 

1296
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,360
where there's so much 
intermixing and intermingling of

1297
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,040
players that you know where you 
stand, you fight all the time 

1298
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,280
and and these tour mats. 
And I think that like that 

1299
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,280
reduces this competitive tension
between regions and individual 

1300
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,600
players. 
That's something that's a 

1301
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,040
byproduct of us playing too 
much. 

1302
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,400
We had that 5V5 at comma breaker
2022 or 2021, and that was after

1303
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,400
COVID because like we're like, 
you know, we're kind of 

1304
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,760
separated for a while. 
And then that's when those 

1305
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,800
tensions, this bill like, oh, I 
think we're better than you, 

1306
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,880
right? 
And then hype moments like that 

1307
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,320
can happen. 
So I think post rollback net 

1308
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,840
code, Street Fighter Five and 
CPT, it's been deflating that 

1309
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,800
tension for a long time. 
The players have to go out of 

1310
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,640
their way to create the 
storylines like what we got 

1311
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,880
here. 
So hopefully this will be 

1312
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,000
inspiring for more of this going
forward. 

1313
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,600
But speaking about going 
forward, we're going to wrap up 

1314
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,360
the Daigo Menardi discussion, 
head into EVO Japan. 

1315
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,080
Just a little preview of what's 
coming up because we have what 

1316
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,680
appears to be the largest ever 
Street Fighter tournament or 

1317
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,960
maybe potentially video game 
tournament period coming up. 

1318
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400
That was previously EVO 2023 
Vegas, the very first EVO 4 

1319
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,520
Street Fighter six with 7083 
entrance. 

1320
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,720
Angry Bird got first, Menardi 
second in that one. 

1321
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,960
Eva Japan. 
The past two years, Menardi has 

1322
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,960
won. 
This year he's in it again, but 

1323
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:29,840
this time he's also competing 
against 7166 other hopeful 

1324
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,880
competitors. 
So that's insane. 

1325
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,800
I mean, Street Fighter at in 
Japan has just been getting more

1326
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,400
and more popular year after year
since 2024. 

1327
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,600
It went from 5000 entrants to 
now 7166. 

1328
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:48,240
So three years into its 
lifespan, more players than 

1329
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,720
ever. 
It's like there's no end insight

1330
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,560
here, man. 
It's it's it's kind of crazy. 

1331
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,240
I don't. 
I don't want to say I don't get 

1332
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,160
it because that sounds very 
mean, but I I don't get it. 

1333
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,120
Like it. 
It just keeps getting bigger and

1334
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,960
bigger and like, you know, every
no matter what video game you 

1335
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,120
play, there's going to be fall 
off like Marvel rivals comes 

1336
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,200
out, the game obviously steadily
decline. 

1337
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,040
You know, new COD comes out, 
it's going to steadily decline 

1338
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,400
in Japan, it's going up like 
it's a trend upward. 

1339
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,760
So I'm I don't get it. 
I really don't. 

1340
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,920
Yeah, this is breaking all the 
rules. 

1341
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,160
It's just, it's not like a dig 
at street fighters. 

1342
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,920
It's just that this doesn't 
happen normally. 

1343
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:26,640
The only way the parallel I can 
draw it to is in the Street 

1344
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,880
Fighter 4 era. 
The tournament scene was growing

1345
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,560
over years there. 
There was a parallel there 

1346
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,400
because, you know, people were 
discovering the competitive 

1347
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,240
scene. 
I think that the, the Street 

1348
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,400
Fighter 4 boom led to a lot of 
people figuring out about the 

1349
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,480
FGC and Evo was growing. 
So you did see that growing year

1350
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,640
after year after year until 
Street Fighter five. 

1351
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,000
Obviously the, the bubble popped
after the first Evo Street 

1352
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,520
Fighter 5 because, you know, the
game released like a turd and 

1353
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,720
then it deflated after that. 
The entrance like got cut in 

1354
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,960
half between 2016 and 2017 
almost. 

1355
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,680
So that's rough. 
And then it, it actually kind of

1356
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,480
stagnated for a while and then 
it was Street Fighter Six. 

1357
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,760
It's blown up again. 
And in the USA, you know, we 

1358
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,360
have, we see the same pattern 
where the most of our entrants 

1359
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,800
are the first year, then it 
declines, not nowhere near as 

1360
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,360
much as Street Fighter 5, but 
it's declining a little bit, 

1361
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:16,840
right, Which is what you expect 
at this point. 

1362
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:20,920
Like we're kind of saturated. 
People know about Evo, they know

1363
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,280
about Street Fighter. 
And so you're going to see the 

1364
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,680
spike and then dip and then 
spike and dip is probably the 

1365
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,120
pattern we expect. 
But what this is reflecting to 

1366
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,920
me is this is the, the, the 
boon. 

1367
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,560
Like we, they didn't have that 
2009 moment in Japan for the 

1368
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,960
competitive scene to this degree
with Evo, because Evo's a newer 

1369
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:41,080
series, even Japan started in 
2018. 

1370
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,880
So now it's like they're finally
having that experience of like, 

1371
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,600
oh, how far can this actually 
go? 

1372
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,360
And it's year after year like in
Street Fighter 4 for, for Evo 

1373
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,840
Vegas, it's getting bigger and 
bigger and I don't know where it

1374
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:55,840
goes. 
It's, it's, it's starting to 

1375
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,000
slow down. 
I mean, it's, it's not as big of

1376
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:05,760
a jump from 2025 to 6 like it 
was from 2024 to 2025, but do we

1377
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,560
get another record-breaking 
tournament 2027? 

1378
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,680
I, I thought they said they'd 
only got stopped because there 

1379
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,640
was like a, there was like a, a 
cap limit on the entrance. 

1380
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,600
There's a lot of people who are 
going there who actually could 

1381
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,000
enter. 
I know Chris G wanted to, excuse

1382
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,760
me. 
I know Chris G wanted to enter 

1383
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,440
Street Fighter Six at Evo Japan 
and he couldn't because the the 

1384
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,600
limit. 
It was like a entrance cap. 

1385
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,040
I mean I think they had caps in 
the previous years too though. 

1386
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,920
Yeah, so I do think probably 
even more people would enter 

1387
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,160
Street Fighter Six if they 
could. 

1388
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,960
But there's just like a limit 
cap, no matter how you're going 

1389
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,360
to look at it. 
So I don't know, I I'm kind of 

1390
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,760
with you. 
I don't know when it stops. 

1391
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,000
It's just getting bigger and 
bigger. 

1392
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,400
Yeah, it's insane. 
It, it's weird too, 'cause if 

1393
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,000
you look at all the other games,
like I like I was saying 

1394
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,560
earlier, if you combine all the 
games and multiply them by 

1395
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,000
three, it's still not even close
to Street Fighter Six, which is 

1396
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,840
crazy. 
I think Tekken's the next high 

1397
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,720
is at like 800 or 809 hundred 
people. 

1398
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:06,920
Yeah Tekken Tekken 8 has 877 
entrance and it falls off pretty

1399
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:09,640
fast after that. 
Guilty girl strives doing pretty

1400
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:15,000
good with 740, but nothing else 
broke 1K and a lot of the games 

1401
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,120
are in the one hundreds of 
entrance. 2X KO has 428 

1402
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:25,160
entrance, which is not great for
I mean it's good, but it's not 

1403
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,880
great for the scale of the game 
they're they're looking for. 

1404
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,640
I'm sure it'll be bigger at evo 
Vegas, but yeah, it's it's it's 

1405
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:40,520
nearly all Street Fighter six. 
It's really crazy how the vast 

1406
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,840
majority of the tournament is 
Street Fighter Six, and in 

1407
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:45,560
general, the engagement for 
Street Fighter 6 is all Japan. 

1408
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,160
I mean, we've been harping on 
this for a long time. 

1409
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,480
The viewership for this set is 
being, you know, dominated by 

1410
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,040
Japanese audiences as well. 
So it's going to be huge. 

1411
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,760
And of course, in Cross put out 
his tweets about notable players

1412
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,920
coming out. 
I don't even know what to do 

1413
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,520
with this thing because it's 
every player you've ever heard 

1414
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:07,040
of and then some on it. 
Like, like, what do you want me 

1415
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:07,720
to do? 
Who? 

1416
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:09,320
Who do I? 
Who do you want me to say? 

1417
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,200
The only notable player not in 
this tournament is going to be 

1418
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:14,480
Daigo. 
That's about it. 

1419
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:16,359
I think Angry Birds also not 
going. 

1420
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,040
Oh, Angry Bird. 
Yeah. 

1421
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,600
I think he was taking some time 
off for for something. 

1422
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:21,640
Right. 
So angry. 

1423
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,640
No Angry Bird, No Daigo. 
But pretty much everyone else is

1424
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,160
there. 
Blas is there. 

1425
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,760
Big birds there? 
Mochi's there. 

1426
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,120
I'm wasting my time. 
I'm. 

1427
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:31,680
I'm looking at the list. 
Maybe we'll get this on the 

1428
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:32,640
screen. 
I'm. 

1429
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,279
I'm not going to read this dear 
audio listeners, I'm sorry. 

1430
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:40,200
Think of a name and it's there. 
I don't even know where to begin

1431
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:42,520
with predictions or to build up 
to this. 

1432
01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,720
It's just going to be the 
biggest tournament of all time. 

1433
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,160
I'm hoping they managed to 
capture a lot more stream 

1434
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:52,040
matches. 1 issue last year is 
massive tournament, most of it 

1435
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:55,240
unstreamed. 
So many incredible matches don't

1436
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,439
make the stream cut. 
There's there's a certain 

1437
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,760
reality that's going to happen, 
but it was pretty bad and it's 

1438
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:01,439
been a historic problem. 
Evo, Japan. 

1439
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,680
I don't think you can really fix
that unless like you take 

1440
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,200
another game stream and like be 
like ha ha this is the second SF

1441
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,240
6 stream. 
Like I I don't think you really 

1442
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,960
fix that issue. 
At what point do you justify a 

1443
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,439
second SF 6 stream? 
Like so you're saying there's? 

1444
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,960
7166 entrance. 
I know what you're saying, 

1445
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:21,359
'cause I think ho hoku Uno Ken, 
I think that's the game with the

1446
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,640
least amount of entrance, like 
the the first of the North Star 

1447
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,040
game and I think that game has 
like 100 a 150 people. 

1448
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,640
So you're saying you're going to
take that games? 

1449
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,760
I didn't say that. 
That's. 

1450
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,200
The North Star better be 
properly streamed. 

1451
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,439
OK, I didn't say don't put words
in my mouth here. 

1452
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,240
I know I'm just saying when do 
you allocate budget to add 

1453
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:45,560
another stream to a game? 
Because hey like this is clearly

1454
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:48,279
that's the breadwinner. 
You know what I mean? 

1455
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,600
That's where the vast majority 
of people are showing up for. 

1456
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:53,960
So you say take the vampire 
savior stream I get? 

1457
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,080
It I'm not saying any of that. 
What I am saying is I hope the 

1458
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:59,200
rate of match delivery is good 
because there's there's always 

1459
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,040
lots of downtime. 
They're pretty bad at swapping 

1460
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,400
between matches and also 
choosing stream matches. 

1461
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,640
That's that's the main thing. 
It's even with the streams that 

1462
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,400
they have historically, it's 
been pretty bad. 

1463
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,800
I mean, we saw the production 
for evil legends. 

1464
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,240
I just feel like in general, 
when the evil production in 

1465
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,800
Japan has always lagged behind 
the quality in in Vegas and 

1466
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,880
people already complain about 
Evo Vegas, you know, just being 

1467
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:24,200
Chipotle ads and and downtime. 
But it's it's definitely better.

1468
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,280
And they do 2 streams for Street
Fighter six. 

1469
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,720
And I think they did do 2 
streams at one point for Evo 

1470
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,680
Japan, but I'm just hoping it's 
decently streamed so you can 

1471
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:38,920
check out some of these matches 
and and see because the top top 

1472
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,680
1928, what I don't even know 
what tier of the bracket to call

1473
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,240
this. 
It's going to be pro players 

1474
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:48,240
eliminating each other 
everywhere, everywhere. 

1475
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,400
So it's going to be ridiculous 
to if you try to catch the 

1476
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,680
matches. 
Do you have any predictions any 

1477
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:55,480
any wild card predictions you 
you want to make? 

1478
01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,160
There's no way I would be able 
to call who's going to win this 

1479
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,760
event. 
So I don't know if I really had 

1480
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:08,680
to guess. 
I'm not. 

1481
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:12,920
I'm not going to call it Lego, 
you know, I I will call this and

1482
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,840
this is going to be the hot 
take, OK? 

1483
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:21,200
The winner will not be MENA, 
Sahara or Blas. 

1484
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,360
OK. 
That's will get second BLAS 

1485
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:25,640
will. 
Get second as. 

1486
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,000
Per as per the script BLAS will 
get second. 

1487
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,360
Those, of course, those three 
players will not be the winners.

1488
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,000
It will be a different winner. 
That's my hot take I. 

1489
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:38,600
I wonder how Sahar is going to 
do because how did how did 

1490
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,800
Kakadu do at Evo Japan? 
Yeah, I know. 

1491
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,600
I know what you're going to say.
Every Capcom Cup champion has an

1492
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:49,360
awful at EVO Japan right after. 
I think like Kakaru got like 120

1493
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,920
knife and I think Uma got like. 
256 or something. 

1494
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,000
Yeah, Oma lost pretty early. 
I think he lost with a Honda 

1495
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,760
player. 
Yeah, something like that. 

1496
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,160
Yeah, he he lost pretty early 
and then he retired after that. 

1497
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,520
Kakadu didn't retire right away 
and went on to get second in Evo

1498
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,600
Vegas, right? 
So he did his thing for a while,

1499
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,600
you know, shout out to Kakadu. 
And I'm very interested to see 

1500
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,280
Sahara because, you know, we've 
had the retirement problem with 

1501
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,360
Captain Cup champions. 
They get the Millie and they're 

1502
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,560
like, fuck this amount, right? 
And you know, they have their 

1503
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,920
own personal reasons and health 
reasons. 

1504
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,840
Whatever, whatever you got to do
to protect your peace, it's all 

1505
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:28,360
good. 
But it'll be interesting to see 

1506
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,360
if Sahara is able to maintain 
any level of consistency because

1507
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,600
generally we don't see that. 
Yeah. 

1508
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:38,120
First to two is brutal. 
If I'm telling you, if the set 

1509
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,480
was if Daigo versus Mana was 
first to two, Daigo would be in 

1510
01:12:41,480 --> 01:12:43,280
winners. 
Daigo would have sent Mana Rd. 

1511
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:44,840
to losers if it was first to 
two. 

1512
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:47,280
And if it was first to three? 
Mana would have won. 

1513
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,640
Or first to five or first to 10.
We're. 

1514
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,360
Not going that far. 
Yeah, yeah, we'll see. 

1515
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,080
I'll, I'll be keeping an eye out
for Sahara. 

1516
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,520
Of course. 
I'm looking for Lashar to go 

1517
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,760
far. 
Le Goat is. 

1518
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:03,440
Lashar in the bracket? 
I don't think he is. 

1519
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,680
Oh, is Lashar not in it? 
I don't think he is in the 

1520
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,600
bracket actually. 
Don't do that to me, Lashar. 

1521
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,400
I need Lashar to be in there. 
That's the one I'm I'm not sure 

1522
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,760
of. 
Yeah, I, I don't remember seeing

1523
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,960
him because I think I was 
scrolling like through the the 

1524
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,600
top eight seed and I don't think
Lashar was there. 

1525
01:13:21,240 --> 01:13:22,920
No Lashar. 
No. 

1526
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:24,560
Why is Lashar not in the 
bracket? 

1527
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,880
What's the point then? 
Cancel the tournament? 

1528
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,680
What's the point? 
Well, that was my only 

1529
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:36,120
prediction as Lego takes another
one, so I I got nothing beyond 

1530
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,800
that. 
Either way, it should be a good 

1531
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:39,800
show. 
I mean, a lot of Street Fighter 

1532
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,560
6 action. 
We'll be seeing who's crowned 

1533
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,400
the champion. 
I guess we'll talk about it when

1534
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,120
that concludes. 
Any other final words item 

1535
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,760
before we wrap this up? 
Anything you want to say to the 

1536
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:50,200
people? 
Any thoughts about Diego MENA 

1537
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,760
Rd. 
The future of the FGC 

1538
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,520
exhibitions? 
Diego's Legacy? 

1539
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:56,200
Street Fighter? 
What do you got all? 

1540
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:01,280
Right for me, I I got a few 
things to say. 1 Santa Claus 

1541
01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:04,720
that does exist. 
Even if it's an old an old 

1542
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,760
Japanese man that shows up drunk
to tournaments, Santa Claus does

1543
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,600
exist. 
You got to believe that's what 

1544
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:16,520
we've learned over this saga. 
You got to believe all right 

1545
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,120
guys, that's it for this episode
of Extra trashy. 

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We'll catch you in the next one.
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episode of extra trashy. 
Let me know what you think in 

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the comments about MENA Rd. 
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