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This is geology bites with 
Oliver Strimple scattered around

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the globe. 
Within both oceanic and 

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continental plates are some 
massive accumulations of igneous

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rocks called large igneous 
provinces. 

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What causes such huge volumes of
magma to flow onto the Earth's 

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surface? 
And what impact does their 

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emplacement have on the plates 
where they erupt, the atmosphere

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and climate and life? 
Richard Ernst has been studying 

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all aspects of large Igneous 
provinces for nearly three 

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decades and has written the 
definitive textbook on the 

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subject. 
He is scientists in residence at

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Carlton University in Ottawa. 
Richard Ernst, Welcome to 

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Geology Bites. 
Thank you, Oliver. 

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It's great to be here. 
There are many places where 

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volcanism has produced a lot of 
basalt on the surface of the 

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Earth, not least from mid ocean 
spreading ridges and volcanic 

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arks. 
Is there an accepted definition 

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of a large anus province that 
distinguishes them from such 

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other forms of volcanism? 
As originally defined in 1990, 

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the basic aspect was a large 
volume intraplate event, 

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typically with a short duration,
and the minimum size was 

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conceived as around 100,000 
cubic kilometers. 

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The intraplate setting 
distinguished from ordinary sea 

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floor spreading and collisional 
related activities and they can 

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be very very short duration, 
often times less than a million 

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years, or can be multiple pulses
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But basically it's a bulk of 
extruded magma is where the 

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definition lies, right? 
That's the main thing, that's 

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how it's it was originally 
recognized it was these huge 

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flood basalts observed in many 
parts of the world that could be

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kilometers thick of basaltic 
lava with very little interflow 

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sediments. 
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that these were kind of unique 
sort of thing and then they took

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this to the oceanic realm and 
recognized similar kind of thick

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accumulations of extrusive 
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Can you describe the structure 
of a larger nears province? 

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At the surface you could see the
huge flood basalts that might be

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extensive over many many 
hundreds of kilometers, covering

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up to 1,000,000 or more square 
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But as the flood basalts are 
eroded, you see more of the 

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plumbing system. 
You see giant radiating dike 

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swarms that can have a radius of
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giant circular swarms that could
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kilometers. 
Also you have massive sills, 

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dolerite sill provinces 
associated with sedimentary 

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basins. 
You also have the important 

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group of Mavic ultromathic 
intrusive complexes that are 

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also an important part of the 
plumbing system. 

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And then as you go deeper, you 
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plate that's often present where
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cubic kilometers or more of 
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the crust as Mavic to 
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So the plumbing system is really
quite extensive and this 

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indicates that these events are 
really even more of a luminous 

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than we realise from just 
looking at the extruded flood 

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basalt. 
But if I was standing on top of 

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a large Igneous province or on a
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I recognise it from the plumbing
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endless sheets or thick sheets 
of successive lava flows? 

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Yeah, that's the way you would 
recognize it. 

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You'd see yourself sitting on 
top of as far as the eye could 

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see. 
Basaltic volcanism, Hawaiian 

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style volcanism, but on 
steroids. 

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If you have windows through it 
where the basalts were eroded, 

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then you might see some of the 
dyke swarm component and the 

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other plumbing system component.
I have been to some of these 

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large English provinces, for 
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Greenland and then also in the 
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And you can, when it's eroded 
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just see layer upon layer upon 
layer upon layer, endless layers

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of successive lava flows. 
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And even in the ones that have 
been deeply eroded, like the 

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McKenzie event of Northern 
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component goes out to 2000 
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of this overall radiating swarm,
you have the remnant of what 

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must have been originally very, 
very extensive flood basalt 

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sequence, the copper mine 
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thick or so. 
What are the best known large 

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igneous provinces? 
Where are they and roughly how 

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many have been recognized? 
One of the most dramatic is the 

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Siberian trapped large Igneous 
province, which extends over 

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about 5,000,000 square 
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Other hugely dramatic ones are 
the Central Atlantic Magmatic 

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Province at 201 million years 
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So those are two well known 
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You mentioned the Deccan as well
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It is widespread in India. 
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there's lots more young ones. 
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time and you look at the 
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can trace them all the way back 
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the protozoic about 2 1/2 
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At the end of the Archaean we 
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30 million years somewhere on 
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And if you add in the oceanic 
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in the last 200 million years, 
while we still have current 

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oceanic crust, but we know the 
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continues back through time, we 
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collisional zones of oceanic 
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And so we suspect that the rate 
of large in these provinces back

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through time might be as often 
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so back through about 2, 1/2 
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And then in the Archaean, we're 
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all the new geocrinology 
etcetera and it's looking like 

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the rate is going to be fairly 
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So you're saying really all the 
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talking about one of these being
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15,000,000 years? 
Potentially as often as and 

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certainly every 20 to 30 million
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large Igneous Province record. 
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plate tectonics a lot and it's a
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But this whole other process, 
this whole other voluminous 

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magma production feature of 
Earth, is also incredibly 

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important. 
Could you talk about the 

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geochemical makeup? 
So being basaltic, we're talking

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fundamentally about Mayfair 
composition, but there's also, 

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as I understand it, a variation 
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end and also some fairly solicit
components of these large 

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Igneous provinces. 
That is certainly true for the 

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continental examples, where it's
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mafic component, but you can 
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compositions. 
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residual liquid becomes more 
granitic through a fractionation

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of the magma. 
You can generate from the mapic 

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magma some amounts of granitic 
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continental large igneous 
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the thermal source causing 
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lower mapic crust. 
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crust, you produce a granitic 
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provinces of granitic melt 
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provinces from the same heat 
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But these massive provinces are 
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have remarkable scale, 100,000 
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It's well known that you produce
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in collisional environments 
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as you go back in time it can be
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granitic magmatic province of 
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plate tectonics collisional 
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large igneous province producing
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Can you give an example of one 
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The Karu Large Igneous province,
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southern Africa into Antarctica,
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of it in southern South America.
The Chon Ike event. 

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How long does it take to form a 
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Or to put it another way, do 
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extrusion rate? 
The geocronology on the Siberian

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Trap event indicate that this 
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more event, not including any 
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would probably make it much 
larger, all came out within less

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than a million years. 
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Province, which covers some 10 
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Uranium lead dating suggests 
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out again within a million years
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period. 
Where exactly is the Central 

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Atlantic Magmatic Province 
today? 

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The center of activity from the 
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Florida, from the African 
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corner of Africa. 
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you tuck it in adjacent to 
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center. 
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entire coast all the way up to 
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side. 
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Brazil, into the Amazon basin 
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the way up into Mauritania, 
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So it's a massive event and 
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it seems to have a 201 ± 1 or so
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However, there are also events 
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pulses that might span 10s of 
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One of the ones that's important
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Igneous province which is on 
Greenland, the units in 

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Greenland you were talking about
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as well. 
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province has a main pulse at 62 
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pulse with the onset of rifting 
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Iceland right in the middle of 
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active today, represents the 
continuation of the North 

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Atlantic large Igneous province 
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rate. 
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have these large Igneous 
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magma in a short period of time,
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magnetism at a much lower pace 
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So Iceland has pulses at 60 

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million years, then a second 
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Other events also have multiple 
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second pulse associated with the
onset of rifting and continental

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breakup are. 
They unique to our planet. 

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They are not unique to our 
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On Venus we see just a wealth of
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igneous provinces. 
On Venus, there's no plate 

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tectonics. 
And so one of the things that's 

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come from the study of huge 
flood basalt events, lava flows 

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continuing for 1000 kilometers 
or more. 

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We've also recently discovered 
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Venus has no erosion, no plate 
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Erosion is important because we 
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lava flows. 
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expression of dykes laterally. 
We think of dykes moving up. 

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They do, but they also can move 
sideways in the crust for long, 

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long distances. 
We know that from Earth we see 

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that demonstrated vividly on 
Venus, and we can trace them for

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long distances as swarms of 
dykes radiating for thousands of

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kilometers. 
We just recently traced a single

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one for almost 4000 kilometers, 
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plate tectonics, it really lends
support to a mantle plume model.

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Let me also mention Mars. 
Mars has grabbing systems 

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interpreted to be dyke storms 3 
or 4000 kilometers long, 

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associated with and radiating 
from this area of protracted 

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plume related volcanism called 
the Tharsis region, and also on 

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another region antipodally 
called the Elysium region. 

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So there's boundless radiating 
grabbing systems on Mars that 

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are also interpreted to 
represent huge, laterally in 

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place, nathic dyke swarms 
associated with what we would 

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call large igneous provinces on 
Earth. 

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Let's talk about what might 
generate these prodigious 

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volumes of lava that form these 
large igneous provinces. 

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Then I understand that there are
two categories of model, each of

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them providing A mechanism that 
generates anomalously hot mantle

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material at shallow levels. 
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which we mean crustal and upper 
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invokes the deep mantle with the
arrival of a hot mantle plume. 

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Let's start with the former 
explanations. 

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So there are a number of shallow
mechanisms. 

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The lithospheric portion of the 
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descend into the mantle. 
That's a process called 

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delamination. 
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from the mantle below can rise 
to a shallower level and produce

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large volumes of melt. 
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that rifting extension, as you 
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also bring hotter mantle 
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and it can then also cause 
partial melting. 

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to a supercontinent cycle. 
We know that the continents come

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together and break apart and 
come together and that's 

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happened several times in Earth 
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being Pangaea that was together 
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years and started to break apart
around 200 million years ago. 

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region of mantle that is covered
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crust, and it represents some 
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underneath then potentially 
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I'm reminded of the episode of 
Georgie Bites that we did with 

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Peter Molnar, where he talked 
about the foundering of an 

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anchor below Tibet as an 
explanation of why it's so high 

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today. 
And I think that is what you're 

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referring to by delamination of 
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portion below sinking into the 
sinospheric mantle below. 

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And similarly, Damien Nance also
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blanketing just at the last 
episode of ways in which you 

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could get extra heating that 
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a supercontinent. 
So let's talk about the second 

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category of model, namely the 
ones that involve the deep 

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mantle and the mantle plume. 
You have a plume that rises, and

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the top of the plume is growing 
as it rises because it is being 

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filled from below faster than it
can push its way up through the 

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mantle. 
And so the size of the plume 

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head is predictable by the 
modeling. 

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kilometers across and flattens 
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plate to something potentially 
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a very short time, meaning that 
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where massive melting happens 
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large India's provinces in 
providing an explanation for 

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very rapid generation of huge 
volumes of melt. 

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So this mantle plume idea has 
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respect to radiating dyke swarms
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which is one of the most 
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It extends out over 2000 
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Where is that located? 
In northern Canada, so it 

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continues from northern Canada, 
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down, not too far from Lake 
Superior. 

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The radiating swarms, the kind 
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uplift above a mantle plume. 
A plume lifts up the crust a 

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kilometer or so and produces 
radio fractures that are filled 

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by magma from the plume and you 
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The swarm and the McKenzie and 
the swarm of many others is 

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radio for a distance and then 
swings beyond a certain distance

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influenced by some sort of 
regional stress sterile to the 

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plume. 
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measure of the size of the 
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So in the case of the McKenzie, 
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at about 1000 kilometers 
consistent with this mantle 

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plume modeling. 
Do these various models also 

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help explain what we see on Mars
and Venus then? 

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Indeed they do. 
On Venus, I mentioned this 

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nearly 4000 kilometer long 
individual dike. 

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It radiates away from a big 
volcanic center, radiates out 

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1200 kilometers, and then swings
about 50° into a trend that's 

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parallel to a rift zone that's 
10,000 kilometers long. 

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So we have a dramatic change in 
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consistent with hundreds of 
other dikes that we are seeing 

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as part of the radiating system.
But this particular individual 

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dike shows it so dramatically. 
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radiating swarms that seem to go
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and the entire Tharsis Rise is 
larger than 5000 kilometers 

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across. 
So it's a big event on its own. 

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How does the model explain the 
initial radial pattern? 

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And then there's a certain 
radius, the swinging out there 

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dykes. 
In order to drive a dyke out 

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laterally for that part, you 
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So you have to have magma 
continually being pumped into 

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the starting end of the dyke. 
The source area for Dike Magnus 

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is typically near the plume 
center. 

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So within a few 100 kilometers 
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in some cases gravity anomalies 
marking intrusions from which 

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the dikes were pumped out. 
And they're pumped out initially

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in the direction given by the 
Domal uplift, which imposes the 

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stress on the crust that favors 
radiating openings. 

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And so the magma that's being 
pumped outward from the center 

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region takes advantage of these 
preferred opening directions and

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happily drives out laterally and
keeps driving out sideways. 

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And then if it gets beyond the 
plume head, there is still 

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regional stress. 
On Earth, it's related to plate 

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boundary stresses. 
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spreading zones or collisional 
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stresses that have preferred 
directions. 

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And so the idea is that the 
magma keeps being pumped into 

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the starting end of the dike, 
and the magma keeps moving at 

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the far end. 
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domal uplift, beyond the 
influence of the stresses 

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related to the uplifting plume 
head, the magma still wants to 

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go. 
And it's going to happily go in 

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the direction of whatever the 
stress it experiences at that 

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point. 
And on Earth is presumably 

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related to some sort of plate 
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subduction stresses. 
On Venus we see this one that 

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parallels this huge rift zone 
for 2000 kilometres of it's 

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10,000 kilometres long, full 
length of that Rift Zone. 

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As we look through the 
geological record, we often see 

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a temporal coincidence between 
the emplacement of a large ignis

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province and continental 
rifting. 

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Can you give some examples of 
this and do we understand why 

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this is so? 
We clearly see many examples 

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where a rival of a large Igneous
province is associated with 

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attempted breakup and often 
successful breakup to open a new

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ocean. 
On one hand, you have the 

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Central Atlantic Magmatic 
Province at 201 million years, 

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which precedes the opening of 
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years. 
Beautiful correlation there. 

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On the other hand you have the 
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Archignis Province, which did 
try to break up Siberia from 

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Europe. 
The West of Siberia has major 

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rift zones that are part of the 
Siberian Trap event and 

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represent serious attempted 
breakup, but ultimately 

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unsuccessful. 
So this points out that there's 

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two aspects that are relevant. 
You have to have favorables, 

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plate boundary stresses in order
for there to be successful. 

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In the case of the Central 
Atlantic, there was already a 

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whole series of rift basins, at 
least on the North American 

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side, called the Newark series 
of basins that represented NS 

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rifting prior to the ultimate 
breakup. 

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That happened 30 or 40 million 
years later after the arrival of

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the central magnetic province. 
So in that case, you'd say there

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was favorable plate boundary 
stresses, they were already 

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interested in causing a breakup,
and then the mantle plume 

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arrives, causes some uplift, 
causes radiating dikes from, but

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also causes potential triple 
junction rifting in multiple 

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directions, going north to 
separate North America from 

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Europe and Africa into the South
to move South America away. 

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Ore deposits are linked to large
igneous provinces. 

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What kind of ores are these, and
do we understand what the 

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connection is? 
Yes, we have some good ideas. 

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Most ores for copper, nickel and
platinum group elements, 

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platinum and Palladium in 
particular. 

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They are genetically associated 
with large igneous provinces, 

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and part of the story has to be 
with the kind of magma you get 

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both mafic and ultra mafic 
magnetisms in large igneous 

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provinces. 
Ultra mafic magnetism can often 

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be associated with elevated 
levels of some of these elements

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that then can get concentrated 
in a layered intrusion. 

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For instance, like the Bushfeld 
intrusion in Southern Africa, a 

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huge reservoir of many rich ore 
deposits. 

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It's a single body that extends 
400 kilometers across and maybe 

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7 kilometers thick. 
A huge body of magma that 

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differentiates and produces 
significant ore deposits at 

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different levels. 
And it's part of a large Igneous

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province that a little over 2 
billion years ago in southern 

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Africa. 
Then the real magmatic sulphide 

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deposits in the Siberian trap 
event. 

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Those seem to have interacted 
with silicon rich units at some 

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point, causing sulphur 
saturation and production of a 

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separate magmatic sulphide 
liquid that can interact with 

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the huge volumes of magma that 
might be moving by it in a magma

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chamber. 
The idea is if you have a 

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separate liquid adjacent to the 
basaltic liquid, as the basaltic

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liquid is moving by it, it's 
sulfur loving elements like 

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nickel and copper and platinum 
group elements jump out of the 

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basaltic magma and jump into the
sulfide magma and progressively 

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get more and more rich in the 
magmatic sulfide. 

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And that's part of the reason 
then that large in these 

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provinces are important in 
magmatic sulfides because they 

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have a potential for huge 
volumes of magma to move by 

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magmatic sulfides and 
continually offer them the 

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opportunity to get more and more
enriched in the sulfur loving 

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elements, nickel, copper and PGS
that are very important in the 

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Green Revolution. 
We also see a correlation 

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between the emplacement of a 
large Igneous province and a 

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major mass extinction. 
Can you give examples of these 

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and how do we think this comes 
about? 

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Yeah, the best perhaps is the 
Siberian Trap event that I 

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mentioned before, which covers 
Northern Siberia and Central 

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Siberia. 
All of it seems to be in place 

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within less than a million years
and precisely within a short 

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time both preceding and post 
dating the well dated timing of 

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the Permo Triassic mass 
extinction. 

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So that's a superb example. 
I mentioned the Central Atlantic

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Magmatic Province, two O 
1,000,000 years. 

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It precisely brackets the 
Triassic, Jurassic mass 

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extinction. 
The Deccan event marching this 

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province in India. 
Again, most of it is less than a

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million years. 
It does seem to have two or 

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three distinct pulses, very 
short duration for the main 

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pulse, again bracketing in time 
the mass extinction associated 

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with the demise of the 
dinosaurs. 

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In that particular case, the 
dating on the chick cha Lube 

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meteorite impact in the Yucatan 
peninsula seems to give a 

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similar age, and so it looks 
like it's a joint effort between

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a large igneous province and a 
meteorite impact in that case, 

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and causing that extinction. 
I presume the extinctions are 

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thought to be a consequence of 
the global environmental impacts

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of these enormous eruptions that
create these larger Guinness 

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provinces. 
But what exactly is so inimical 

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to life? 
There's a bounty of riches in 

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that regard. 
There's rapid global warming, 

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1520° temperature increases 
above present and acid rain can 

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be an important component. 
The Siberian Traps event 

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modeling shows that there's CO2 
and SO2 sulfur dioxide coming 

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out, but there's also the 
thermogenetic gases. 

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So this huge amount of gas 
release from sills, the 

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intrusive component interacting 
with sediments and in the case 

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Siberian trap. 
There's the opportunity to 

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interact with hydrocarbons with 
oil deposits. 

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Also an opportunity to interact 
with evaporate sedimentary 

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deposits you get in deserts from
evaporation of water. 

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They heated up some evaporates 
of sediments to see what would 

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be released from SIL at 1000° 
being adjacent to such sediments

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and they would release chlorine 
and bromine compounds. 

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So those are ozone destroying. 
So the ozone destroying is also 

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a possibility. 
Mercury releases well poisonous 

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mercury. 
It seems that mercury levels are

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higher from large against 
province events, so they are a 

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source of mercury poisoning 
potentially. 

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Paradoxically, you can also have
remarkable cooling episodes that

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are associated with large ING 
this provinces. 

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If you erupt a large ING this 
province at the equator, there's

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a lot of flood basalts and then 
they can be rapidly eroded 

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within a million years or so, 
and that sucks a lot of CO2 of 

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the atmosphere. 
So if you're in a cooler 

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transition time, it's enough to 
potentially pull you into a 

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snowball Earth where the oceans 
are frozen to the equator. 

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And an example of that is the 
longest snowball Earth in this 

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Earth's history from about 
719,000,000 to 660,000,000 years

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ago, so-called sturtine 
glaciation. 

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And what occurred right at the 
absolute beginning of that? 

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The huge Largigius province in 
Canada, known as the Franklin 

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Largigius Province, 2 or 
3,000,000 square kilometers in 

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Canada, whose precise ages 719 
like a million years before the 

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onset of the sturtine 
glaciation. 

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And yet there's more. 
We have the same age event in 

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formerly attached Siberia called
the Irkutsk Largeignius 

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Province, and there's more. 
We have at the same time in the 

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portion of southern Africa and 
probably into adjacent 

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Antarctica, another largeignius 
province called the Mutari 

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Fingerin that's of the same age.
And also in South China there's 

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a Largeignius province of the 
same age, and probably in 

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Northern Europe. 
In Baltica there's another a 

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large igneous province of the 
same age. 

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Some of these other ones are 
also at the equator, so the 

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causing of the Grand 13 
Glaciation Snowball Earth event 

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due to a large Igneous province,
almost certainly the Franklin 

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Large Igneous Province was the 
cause and in a time where it was

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already cooling down. 
It's interesting that for some 

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of these you eject a ton of 
greenhouse gases into the 

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atmosphere and you Jack up the 
temperature by 1020°. 

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Yet for others it's the 
subsequent effect of the 

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drawdown of CO2 from all the 
erosion leading to cooling that 

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is the major effect. 
I suppose it's a question of 

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different time scales. 
It's a little more complicated 

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than that because you also have 
sulfur dioxide release and so 

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that's initially greenhouse 
warming, but it can also convert

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to a sulfate very rapidly and 
become solar blocking. 

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So you have the CO2 pulse 
initially from the gas, both 

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from the volcanics and from the 
heating up by seals of adjacent 

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sediments. 
The sulfur dioxide component, if

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it's large, takes you from an 
initial warming and start some 

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cooling. 
And then if you rapidly remove 

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and erode the the salts at an 
equator, you more than 

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compensate for whatever CO2 you 
put into the atmosphere and you 

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have a net loss. 
So you would expect a little bit

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of a pulse of warming right at 
the beginning to sulfite 

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aerosol, slight transition, then
to some cooling and then if the 

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erosions kicks in then it can be
even more dramatic cooling. 

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If three or four coincident 
Lodgingness provinces triggered 

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the Sturtian glaciation in the 
near Protrozoic, what about the 

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Marin Owens Snowball episode 
that came soon after the end of 

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the Sturtian? 
There's some candidates both for

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the interruption between the 
Sturti and the Marinolan that 

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you have pump a lot of CO2 in 
the atmosphere and that may have

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temporarily taken us out of the 
Sturti and and then there's 

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another candidate at the end of 
the Marinolan for potentially 

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ending that period. 
And then there's also the gas 

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gear's glaciation at 580 or so, 
which seems to be very short and

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it may have been both started 
and ended by a large ignis 

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problem, started by a basaltic 
large ignis component and ended 

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by the felsa component. 
Can I mention one of the things 

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is we have this wild idea that 
Venus had a massive climate 

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change from earlier habitable 
conditions to its modern 

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climate, with no plate tectonics
and no erosion. 

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Could multiple large igneous 
provinces happening at the same 

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time on Venus, each of them 
increasing the global 

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temperature by 10 or 15°? 
Say have 3 superimposed. 

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You can increase the global 
temperature by 45° and that 

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would lead to runaway ocean 
evaporation and lead to the end 

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of plate tectonics. 
Water is considered important 

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00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,800
for subduction to continue, so 
we propose that this great 

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climate transition from Earth 
like conditions on Venus to the 

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current 450°C self cleaning oven
type temperatures was initiated 

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through multiple large igneous 
provinces happening at the same 

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time. 
And we have cheekily said 

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perhaps this is an Earth's 
distant future. 

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There's nothing to stop a 
similar mechanism from happening

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hundreds of millions of years 
from now. 

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Richard Anst, thank you very 
much. 

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00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,040
Thanks so much, Oliver. 
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