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Tammy Ennis and her three 
friends were fighting for their 

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lives as their small catamaran 
was torn apart by a storm and 

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swept out to sea. 
Stranded all night with no food,

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no water and no rescue insight, 
their only hope was to swim for 

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shore through shark infested 
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What happened next is almost 
impossible to believe. 

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This is Tammy's harrowing story 
of survival and the moment she 

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witnessed the unthinkable. 
Your discretion is advised. 

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Thank you so much for being 
here. 

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I've, I, I am there. 
There's, there's. 

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When I first heard your story, 
when I first found you, I, I, I 

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had to watch it two times in a 
row. 

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It was that incredible. 
So start from the beginning. 

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OK, well I had overslept I think
it was a a Sunday if I'm not 

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mistaken. 
And I usually played or went to 

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the softball games. 
I was a bartender, Daytona 

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Hilton and I always went to the 
softball games to watch the the 

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other people play and overslept 
that day. 

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And so randomly I got I think I 
got a phone call. 

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He was my neighbor, but I think 
he had moved from Randy and 

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telling me that he had a friend 
that had this little Hobie cat 

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and they were going to go out 
and sail and want to know if I'd

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go with him and Christy, his 
girlfriend. 

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And I said sure, sure, why not. 
And so I ended up going out to 

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the beach and meeting them and, 
and and starting our our trek. 

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Had you? 
Had you ever sailed before? 

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No, I had not. 
And you know, I've been in the 

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water since I was a couple years
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So I was a good swimmer and all 
that and I just, but no, I 

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hadn't really been on on boats 
or anything and, and not on the 

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ocean, but we didn't even take 
life jackets, but. 

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Had he sailed before? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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It was his. 
It was his Hobie cat. 

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Yeah. 
And he had sailed and he had 

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also been in like, I don't know 
if it's Coast Guard or Coast 

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Guard Reserve or something like 
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So that's what the story I was 
told that it was, it was all 

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good. 
And we were just going for fun 

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for the ride. 
OK. 

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Wow. 
Yeah. 

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And so we, you know, got some 
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sandwiches and probably, you 
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Cokes and things like that in 
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Headed off to the beach and, 
and, and took off. 

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We just ate on the beach and 
then didn't take anything on 

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there and we went out, started 
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How big is the boat? 
It's only a 17 foot, I think it 

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was called a Hobie cat. 
So it's not like a catamaran. 

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It, it is a catamaran, but it's 
very, it's small. 

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And it was just, you know, for 
the four people. 

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And we just sailed, you know, 
parallel to the to the beach for

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a little while. 
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remember Randy saying he wanted 
to go out farther. 

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He was just having so much fun. 
And yeah, I've never been on one

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either. 
So we went a little bit further.

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And at some point I just 
remember looking to the off to 

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the coast and to the right and 
seeing these clouds. 

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But they were like horizontal or
not horizontal clouds. 

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There were these round clouds 
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off in the distance and dark, 
but they were just really odd 

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looking. 
So I mentioned that and they 

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were saying, you know, that's 
nothing or whatever. 

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And we kept sailing. 
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noticed that we're tilting a 
little bit and that some water 

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is coming some for some reason, 
1 of this, what size of the 

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pontoon is starting to, you 
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So we're checking everything and
he ends up unscrewing the cap in

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one of the holes and sees that 
there's some water getting in 

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there. 
So we went back on to shore and 

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did what everybody does, and 
that's walk to the nearest 

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hardware store and get duct 
tape. 

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Oh, OK. 
And so we went to the, went 

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there, got some duct tape and 
went back to the boat. 

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Fixed it. 
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could. 
Probably had a couple more rum 

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and cokes and ended up going 
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And so by that time, you know, 
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everything's great. 
But I could still see it was 

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clouding up, down, down at one 
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And you know, we took it out 
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little bit further than probably
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And then at one point we just 
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coming on shore. 
And so Daniel, the guy that 

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owned the boat was, you know, 
we've been in this sale before. 

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He said he knew, he knew his 
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He goes, we can't sail and it's 
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the shore. 
We'll wait it out here because 

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you don't want to ride into the 
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And so we said, OK. 
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we're trying to wait it out, 
obviously the waves were getting

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bigger. 
There's some rain and all that. 

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And once again, we noticed that 
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was, was going down a little 
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And so we tried, we took off the
cap, tried to get what we could,

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but you know, it's just a small 
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So it's really hard to get 
anything, try and get our hands 

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or cup or anything down there to
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And so at one point, after a 
while, the IT filled up and the 

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catamaran flipped up straight up
with the pontoons straight up in

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in the water. 
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Just kind of flipped us all off 
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were still there. 
Sure. 

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So it flipped us up and 
everybody was off. 

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I remember scratching my leg and
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was going, oh, my God, I hope 
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you know, for sharks or 
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And the water bottle, there was 
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had gone off. 
So I tried to swim to it to grab

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the water bottle. 
And I just got, I was scared, 

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you know, it's like, I don't 
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this. 
I don't know what's going to 

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happen. 
Whatever. 

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We're right here by the shore. 
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somebody will see us. 
And so we all swam back and just

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decided to start, you know, try 
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just jump on it, you know, 
trying out of the water. 

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But just everybody pull on one, 
one side, one of the pontoons 

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or, or like push it. 
And somehow with the wind and us

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on it, it fought back down into 
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So we just got up there and 
thank God and everybody got back

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on, settled down, tried to get 
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it was like by that time we 
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Like we're in the middle of the,
of this storm that's going on. 

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We got to hit a dead wind. 
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took, you know, probably within 
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like that when we're doing all 
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And, and then once again we felt
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flipped over. 
So mast went down into the water

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and, you know, we knew there's 
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again. 
So again, we had fallen off and 

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everything, but we just swam to 
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the mast, grab the pontoon and 
the IT didn't sink. 

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So we were happy about that, but
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So we were looking at the shore.
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But we we were probably mile and
a half off. 

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I mean, we were a good ways off 
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know, daylight and what? 
Time of day is it? 

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second. 
I would just say about 3:00 in 

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the afternoon. 233 o'clock. 
And what time of year is this? 

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This was end of August. 
OK, so this light it stays 

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lighter later. 
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And and so, you know, we ended 
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the the pontoon and just, and 
well, at that time we could 

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actually put our knees up on us.
We all got up there straddled 

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and then we were able to put our
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this. 
We keep our legs out of the 

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water. 
And again, the mass was there 

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and we were just hoping it 
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Once we got on, it kind of 
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wasn't sinking. 
So we're going, OK, OK, great. 

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Were you already thinking of 
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Well, only when I fell off and 
and I felt like I cut my leg. 

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So at that point it was just an 
instant thinking, Oh my God, you

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know, I want to be bleeding in 
the water. 

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But yeah, so, you know, once, 
once we're sitting on there, we 

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just assume once the storm 
passed that people be back out 

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in the water. 
Boats would come back out but 

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for some reason they didn't. 
People just went home and it was

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kind of end of season so, but 
still we expected some boats to 

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be out there. 
Did anybody else know that you 

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were out there? 
No, not even my roommate, but 

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there was a curfew on Daytona 
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So long hours into this. 
I we all thought the same thing.

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So they're the police are going 
to be out there and they'll see 

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that boat hitch, you know, 
whatever that and, and the 

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windows are open. 
So we figured somebody come out 

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at some point. 
I think it was, I don't know if 

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it was 9:00 or if it was 11:00, 
but we knew some point they'd 

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see and know something was 
wrong. 

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So anyways, we just sat and kind
of waited and we were just like,

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this is crazy, you know, and, 
and, and just talking like like 

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normal, but just sure somebody 
was going to come by and we kept

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looking up and raising our hands
and, but I, I don't recall, I'm 

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sure there was people, you know,
things in the distance, but 

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definitely they could not have 
seen us on shore and there 

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wasn't a lot of people at the 
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So we'd end up just sitting 
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And as it just kept getting 
later and later we were, I, I 

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was, you know, I kept saying to 
them, I said, I think we're 

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drifting further out. 
We're not going in. 

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They would no, no, no, we're 
going in. 

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The currents are are are going 
north. 

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We might hit a little bit north,
but we're we're going back in. 

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What's the weather like? 
It was it was warm. 

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It was warm, but the water was 
cold. 

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Was it still stormy? 
No, and it had that had ended. 

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And again, it was more like a a 
storm on shore. 

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We got rained on in the very 
beginning and stuff, but after 

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that it it wasn't it was it was 
just an odd an odd storm and but

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it was still cloudy. 
There was no lightning, so, you 

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know, that was good. 
But yeah, we just didn't. 

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I just kept seeing that we were 
going further out and. 

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So you're the one of everybody 
saying we're going out. 

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Yeah. 
And, and, and they just, you 

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know, I think everybody was in 
denial pretty much just thinking

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we were going to get rescued. 
And so I was always, you know, I

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was thinking row, row, row your 
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Yeah, right. 
Right, singing, riding the storm

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out, you know, just trying to 
make fun of stuff or, or keep it

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lively. 
And then even at one point 

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before it got dark, they were 
actually, we're all talking 

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about, Oh my God, we're going to
be, you know, probably in the 

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newspaper and, and let's, we're 
first thing we're going to do is

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have strawberry margaritas or, 
you know, whatever, have a party

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and this is going to be 
something to talk about and all 

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that. 
And unfortunately it just kept 

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getting darker and darker and, 
and, and nobody, nobody came. 

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So yeah, it was probably, why 
can't you tell you how many 

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hours? 
So it, it would have just been 

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probably 3 or 4 hours before it 
started getting dark. 

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And all I could see, I remember 
seeing a few lights at a time 

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coming on in the shore and I was
going, Oh my God, it's really 

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getting it's, it's night time. 
They were coming out. 

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You know, I could see lights 
over here coming on. 

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Come on, come on. 
And once again, I said this, you

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know, nobody's going to find us 
out here. 

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So we need to go while we can 
still see shore. 

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And it was Daniel that said no, 
because this is when sharks 

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feed. 
This is the time the sharks 

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feed. 
If he said, if you swim, there's

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there's no way, he said there's 
no way you can make it. 

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And so again, we had, they still
had the hope that somebody would

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be out there and, and find us. 
And they said, surely they're 

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going to see that boat, our 
launch, you know, on the trailer

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and somebody's going to come and
get us. 

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So we just stayed on. 
So the, you know, as we were 

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sitting there, the waves were 
still weren't getting rained on 

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that I recall. 
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were still coming up more and 
whether it was that pontoon that

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was just getting more and more 
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sinking. 
So at some point we had to take,

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you know, our legs didn't, 
weren't up above the water 

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anymore. 
We had to straddle. 

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So we were straddling. 
And that's when after once it 

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got dark that I was getting a 
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the plankton. 
It was fluorescent plankton all 

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around. 
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it was just all glowing and 
stuff around it, which was cool,

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but not when your legs are in 
there and you worry about shark 

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And but there was just nothing 
we could do. 

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And we sat there and honestly, I
can't remember. 

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It's been so long ago now, the 
timing of when this happened 

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with him. 
I think it might have been after

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the fact because at one point we
heard a helicopter. 

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And so I'm assuming that would 
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time at night. 
We heard a helicopter coming and

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you could tell it was coming 
from New Smyrna, which was 

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South. 
And so we figured it might be 

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Coast Guard. 
And the helicopter came. 

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We saw the lights. 
Were they looking for you? 

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We think they were looking for 
us because, yeah, there was 

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lights in the water, so 
obviously. 

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Did you have any lights with you
at all? 

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No, luckily there was a moon out
for a while and then with the 

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plankton and stuff, but and then
you can see the lights on shore.

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So that was that was really 
about it. 

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But the once the helicopter 
came, we were going OK, OK, it's

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surely you know, they're going 
to see us and everything. 

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Well, they just went around and 
nothing from that and went away 

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and then it was probably an hour
or so later, a couple hours. 

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So we think that they probably 
connected to send another search

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party out because Daniels, we 
heard something in the distance 

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again from New Smyrna Beach. 
And Daniel goes, that's a Coast 

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Guard cutter, I can tell by the 
engine. 

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And we're going, OK, great, you 
know, thank God. 

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And then maybe the helicopter 
didn't see us or whatever. 

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And so we waited. 
And it's chug, chug, chug. 

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So it took way long, you know, 
another hour or so before it 

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even got close to it to us. 
And Nessa was getting close. 

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It wasn't that far away. 
So we had white, the couple of 

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us had white T-shirts or 
something we had on or with us. 

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And I can whistle really loud. 
So I was whistling and we were 

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raising the the thing and it 
turned its engines off. 

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And so we were, you know, pretty
sure that it didn't. 

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Oh my God, they've heard us. 
You know, we were just flipping 

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out saying yes, yes, yes. 
We're screaming top of our 

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lungs, raising our hands, 
raising the the white thing and,

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you know, just thinking, Oh my 
God, we're rescue, you know, 

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wonderful, wonderful and, and 
and just kept waiting and 

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waiting and waiting. 
And next thing we know, it 

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turned on the engine and, and 
moved on and. 

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Yeah. 
What was that moment like? 

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At that moment, we were like, 
oh, shoot. 

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Oh crap. 
Yeah, at that moment that was 

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that was like heart sinks to 
your toes because that was a 

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helicopter and a ship and they 
don't see you and, you know, 

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you're really just bobbing 
around as little, you know, 

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peanut in the water. 
And so that was that was our oh,

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crap moment. 
And so from that point, you 

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know, we can still see shore, 
but it was way, you know, barely

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seeing the lights and stuff. 
And we knew we were just going 

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out further and further, but 
there was nothing we could do. 

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It had to be like 1:00 in the 
morning by that time. 

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And you know, we were cold. 
So we just tried to scoop close 

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to each other and huddle and, 
and, you know, try and keep 

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warm. 
And and then like I said, I'm 

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pretty sure it was after the 
after that incident, because at 

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one point then Daniel was 
sitting up front and then it 

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was, I think it was Christy, 
then Randy, then myself, or 

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maybe she was right in front of 
me. 

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I can't remember. 
But at one point, because we're 

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getting tired, you know, but I 
feel, I feel the thing moving 

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and I see Daniel slipping off 
the front. 

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And so he gets in there. 
We're going, Daniel, wake up, 

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you know, whatever, get up. 
Well, we didn't know. 

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So we're saying, Daniel, get 
back on here and he goes, no, I 

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can't believe I did this to you 
guys. 

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And he goes just the, the, the 
hole will come up more if I'm 

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off of it. 
And he kind of like was going 

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floating away and stuff like he 
was just going to let himself 

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drown or whatever. 
And so we're flipping out 

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because, you know, once again, 
for me, it's not just about him.

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He. 
He was in the water. 

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He was in the water. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Full like fully. 
Full in the water and kind of 

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out of it so and that's what I 
was afraid of. 

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And once again, you know, shark 
just goes through your mind. 

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So it's like you're not going to
be any help to us in the water. 

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It's it's not going to be any 
better with you in the water. 

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And so we had to, you know, 
really convince him to get back 

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on. 
It's not his fault. 

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Don't worry about it. 
We're all going to stick 

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together. 
And, you know, he came back up 

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on, you know, and stayed with 
us. 

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And so it got pretty quiet. 
And I just remember, remember 

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Christy got really quiet. 
And the rest of us, I kept, you 

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know, I kept trying to talk or, 
or do you know, whatever, just 

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to keep us awake. 
And, you know, I'm sure they 

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were talking too. 
But I just remember Christy was 

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really, really quiet through the
night. 

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And and then at some point it 
had gotten really, really dark. 

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And I guess I don't know what I 
was thinking back then. 

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I was going, what happened to 
the moon? 

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Because I mean, it got really 
dark and it stayed dark what 

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felt like hours. 
And I was, you know, because 

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we're all kind of out of it. 
I was going, is this the end of 

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the world or something? 
Because nothing, the sun didn't 

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come up. 
I didn't see the moon again. 

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It was pitch black out there 
besides what's in the water. 

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And and I'm sure that was just 
like being out of it. 

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But yeah, it was that was kind 
of scary for me. 

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And so we just sat and sat and 
sat and tried to stay awake and 

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we were cold and out of it, 
hadn't eaten and hadn't had any 

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water. 
That was worst. 

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We didn't never had it. 
Yeah, because we lost that water

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bottle. 
So we never had any water. 

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Oh man. 
And of course, that makes you 

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psychologically going, oh, my 
God, I got the dryest throat, 

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you know, I'm going to die. 
But yeah, we didn't have any 

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water. 
So that was it. 

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I mean, that it the hours just 
ticked on and on and on. 

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And after the boat, the ship 
came, there was nothing. 

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Didn't hear anything. 
Nothing. 

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It was just the rest of the 
night there. 

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And so basically what ended up 
happening was because I, we lost

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the lights on the shore at some 
point in the night, they were 

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gone. 
And that's what I was telling 

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everybody. 
We are way out now and couldn't 

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see anything. 
So again, you're disoriented 

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because it's pitch black. 
So I don't know where the shore 

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is. 
I don't know where the horizon. 

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I don't know if we're going 
left, right, you know where 

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we're going. 
And so we made it all through 

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the night. 
And then at some point, whether 

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it mean probably 5:00 in the 
morning, I don't know, 435 

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whatever the crack of dawn there
was like you could literally see

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it on the horizon. 
There was a light at the bottom.

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And as soon as that happened, I 
said that's, that's the horizon.

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Shore's the other way. 
I said if we lose this and we 

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can't see shore, we're, we're 
not. 

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I said we're, we're dying out 
here. 

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There's no boats you can start 
to see, you know, and we're neck

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deep in water. 
You had, you know, we're already

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getting jellyfish things. 
And I just said, you know, we're

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either going to die or we're 
going to die or we're going to 

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die. 
So I'd rather die fighting, you 

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know, whether die trying. 
And so we just talked about it. 

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And again, as as light was 
coming up, I was going, you 

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know, we got to go. 
We got to go because we're not 

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going to know where the horizon 
is, you know, once it once it's 

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up. 
And, and so we talked about it 

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and Christy was the only one 
that was, you know, saying I 

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can't swim that well. 
And I told her, don't worry 

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that, you know, the Ocean's salt
water. 

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So it's very buoyant. 
So you can flip around and 

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float. 
We'll all stay with you. 

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I don't remember. 
I think in one of these 

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articles, Daniel said that he 
had talked about it also with 

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her and, and with all of us. 
And, you know, we all decided to

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go ahead because it was, we were
neck deep in water, freezing, no

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sleep. 
And yeah, so we decided to take 

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off and. 
Was everybody in agreement at 

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that moment? 
Like, yeah, we better. 

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Just yeah, she was hesitant, but
yeah, she was, yeah, she had to 

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go. 
We just, so don't worry, you 

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know, we're not swimming fast, 
nothing like that. 

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And again, anytime you're tired,
just turn over and float or 

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float the whole time. 
Backstroke, you know, a little 

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bit. 
And it's just a lot easier in 

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the ocean that it is in a, in, 
in a pool, you know, and it's, 

402
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we'll just stay together in line
and see what happens. 

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And, and so we started swimming 
and I started swimming freestyle

404
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and I've was, have always been, 
had my eyes open. 

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I always opened my eyes in the 
water back then didn't use 

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goggles or anything, didn't 
care. 

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And it started within like 15 
first 1520 minutes, it started 

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getting to me. 
I was like, I don't know if I 

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really want to see what's up 
there. 

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And plus it was salt water, you 
know, it was bothering me. 

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And then, you know, I, I'd close
my, close my eyes, but I'd, I'd 

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stop, I'd flip around and look 
at everybody and make sure 

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everybody's we're still in line 
and all that. 

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And, But then at one point I 
started feeling jellyfish things

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on, on my face, right around my 
eyes. 

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So I said, OK, I'm not going to 
do this. 

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I'm going to because for some 
reason, I thought if I swam the 

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freestyle, I'd be like more more
direct, where with backstroke 

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I'd maybe be flailing a little 
bit where where I was going. 

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And so I turned over and was 
doing backstroke. 

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And I just realized that if I 
just, you know, skim my arms 

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instead of taking them so deep 
that it didn't, you know, hit 

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the hit the jellyfish as much so
you could kind of whatever, just

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see fill their tops, maybe a few
stings on your back. 

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But this wasn't as bad. 
And then, yeah, just swam. 

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But it was only like an hour 
into the swim that I don't know 

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if I heard her or I realized 
something and I just stopped and

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looked back and then I heard her
screaming. 

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And Randy was her boyfriend was 
in front of her. 

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So he was coming towards me and 
she was in the back. 

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So and then Daniel was coming up
from behind her. 

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So I just, you know, when I saw 
her, it was a scream, but then I

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saw her shoot straight up and, 
and she was, she was pale 

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anyways and blonde hair, but I 
was close enough to be able to 

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see that, that, that she just 
like like really white, like 

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like blooded drain from her 
body. 

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I mean, that's, that's what I my
first thought. 

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And then plus with that and she 
was yelling shark and I was 

439
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going, Oh my God. 
Because I mean, it was just like

440
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in Jaws when straight up and 
straight down. 

441
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,160
And she did that twice and then 
went face down in the water. 

442
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,960
And so by that time Randy had 
hurt her. 

443
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,360
He had turned around and you 
know, he was going, he was like,

444
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,480
I think she's drowning, you 
know, and and I was like, no, 

445
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,680
she yelled shark. 
I think she got bit by a shark 

446
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:06,360
and and he goes, you know, he 
goes, he goes, I don't know, I 

447
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:08,200
don't know. 
He said, but I'm going, I got to

448
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,760
go back and help her. 
So he turned around and she and 

449
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:13,800
Daniel was coming up from 
behind. 

450
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,440
So I was he trying to yell to 
him that it was a shark, you 

451
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,280
know, whatever. 
And and they just, they kept 

452
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,960
swimming towards her. 
And I was like, we're too far 

453
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240
from the boat. 
There's nothing I can do. 

454
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,880
So, you know, it's I, I just, I 
said I can't, I just got to, I'm

455
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,720
just got to keep swimming. 
Hopefully I can get, you know, 

456
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,280
somebody else see us stop for 
help or I'll be at least make it

457
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,880
and get some help, you know, 
when I get to shore or whatever.

458
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,800
And I just had no idea. 
And so I just kept swimming and 

459
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,320
I could hear yelling and all 
this kind of stuff. 

460
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,240
Not her at all, just the two 
guys yelling. 

461
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,240
But I had no idea. 
I just, like I said, I just kept

462
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,760
swimming and, and I was trying 
to keep my bearings so I would 

463
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,560
go where I was supposed to be 
going. 

464
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,160
And it was probably a couple 
hours into the swim where I 

465
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,200
could finally start seeing some 
of the tall buildings. 

466
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,360
I I really can't remember how 
long it was, but as I was 

467
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,200
swimming I could finally see 
something where I knew I was 

468
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,840
still going right correctly to 
the to the beach. 

469
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,200
But after she was attacked I 
never saw the guys again. 

470
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,960
And so. 
From the moment you heard that 

471
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:36,040
she was screaming to when you 
how long was it before she was 

472
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,400
gone? 
Minutes. 

473
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Yeah, it was minutes. 
It was literally that it got her

474
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,640
later, Randy said. 
Yeah, she had lost her leg. 

475
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,960
The whole when they got to her 
that that took a took the whole 

476
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,680
leg. 
They were able to find her. 

477
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,920
Oh, yeah, 'cause they were right
there. 

478
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,080
We were all right there. 
So they actually went back to 

479
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,480
her and I guess I found out 
this, this later that they 

480
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,840
actually tried to, you know, 
take her from the neck. 

481
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,280
He's, I can't remember. 
I don't think that she was alive

482
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,080
at all or able to talk or shock.
I, I, I don't know when they 

483
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,480
first got to her. 
She might have still been, but I

484
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,880
just, it's just hard to believe 
because like I said, I saw all 

485
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,680
the blood drained from her body 
and they told me later that 

486
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,440
she's so they, you know, they, 
they tried, they thought maybe 

487
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,320
they were going to try and find 
the boat, get her back to the 

488
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,760
boat or something, but at some 
point they just had to leave 

489
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:29,840
her. 
They couldn't, you know, they 

490
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,680
couldn't, it wasn't too long 
that they were carrying her. 

491
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:42,200
So, so, so, yeah, so right after
that had happened and I was 

492
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,120
swimming, you know, just kept 
swimming. 

493
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:52,800
I was doing backstroke very 
shortly after is when I, I just 

494
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:59,280
saw like a Gray object. 
I could feel it. 

495
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,520
I almost felt more like the 
waves, like underneath me or 

496
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,160
something. 
So I just looked to the side and

497
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:13,080
I felt a bump just on my, on my 
thigh and, and then it just, you

498
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,200
know, and then it went off. 
It wasn't a mouth or anything 

499
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,880
like that, but it was definitely
the, you know, whether it's a 

500
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,600
shark or fish or whatever. 
For me, it was a shark because 

501
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,680
it was, it was large and Gray. 
But I was so scared and that I 

502
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,640
just, you know, I couldn't, I 
didn't want to comprehend or 

503
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,920
think anything. 
And, and I, and I said this 

504
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,240
right away, it was like in that 
in a nanosecond, it was like, 

505
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,560
I'm a fish. 
I'm bigger than you and you're 

506
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,200
not, you're not going to get me.
And I literally put my mind 

507
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,680
mindset that I was, I was a fish
and I belonged in the water. 

508
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440
It was the craziest thing. 
And I just started stroking so 

509
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:55,120
calmly and I just kept going. 
And that was nothing, nothing 

510
00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,960
happened at that point. 
And so again, I kept swimming 

511
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,120
and. 
And the guys are nowhere 

512
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,080
insight. 
They're no you, I lost them 

513
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,560
within 15/10/15. 
You can't see because of the 

514
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,920
waves, everything else. 
So I never saw them after I 

515
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,760
after they I got far enough or 
or after they stopped their 

516
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,160
conversation. 
I don't know what happened 

517
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,480
Wasn't too long after that. 
So I couldn't hear. 

518
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,000
I couldn't do anything, you know
nothing. 

519
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,440
So I didn't know if they were 
dead or alive. 

520
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:31,960
And so, you know, it was just my
survival. 

521
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,400
That's it. 
That's all I thought about. 

522
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,720
I was pretty, like I said, I 
could tell I was kind of 

523
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,000
hallucinating. 
I had a little brother who 

524
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,680
passed away when he was 1 and I 
was 5. 

525
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:48,440
And so, you know, I talked to 
him and, and then way into this,

526
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,880
into the swim, getting pretty 
close and I was pretty tired. 

527
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,040
I, I was thinking about just 
floating, just letting go and 

528
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,880
float. 
And I knew it was the current 

529
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,200
was going north and I thought, I
wonder where my body's going to 

530
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,400
land. 
But at that moment I'm like 

531
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,520
floating and I look over and all
of a sudden I see to the north a

532
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,960
little bit this like a feeding 
frenzy. 

533
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,720
And so that woke me up like 
that. 

534
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,360
And I don't know if it's 
Barracuda, I don't know if it's 

535
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,360
shark, I don't know what it is. 
But all it was was just a 

536
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,360
feeding frenzy and to a little 
bit, you know, to the north, I 

537
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,160
could see it, all the water and 
the splashing and stuff. 

538
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,160
And so that woke me up and I 
said, OK, I'll just keep 

539
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,240
stroking a little bit further. 
And I started swimming again. 

540
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,400
And, and then probably one of 
the things that happened to me 

541
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,320
was I, I was, because I was 
following this cloud and I kept 

542
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,200
telling people afterwards I, 
yeah, I said this cloud, it took

543
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,800
me the end of the edge of the 
cloud, took me straight to the 

544
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
shore and they're going clouds 
move. 

545
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,960
I said, I don't know, I saw this
edge of the cloud and for hours 

546
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,720
and hours I just watched it 
because I was doing backstroke. 

547
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,000
And every time I looked up, I 
was still going straight into 

548
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:06,280
the into the shore. 
And but also then at one point 

549
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,640
when I was doing that, I saw a 
pier and a pier was jutting out 

550
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,320
into the water. 
And, you know, it's coming 

551
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,600
towards me, this pier. 
And I was looking at it and I 

552
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,240
was going, OK, I know, I know 
there's no pier there, so I must

553
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,000
be hallucinating. 
So I knew at that moment I was 

554
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,680
going so I can make a choice. 
Don't want to get on the pier or

555
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,880
don't want to go ahead and keep 
fighting and try and survive. 

556
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,840
So that, that was my, my thought
at the moment that that was 

557
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,080
probably if I, you know, if I'd 
lost myself or whatever and 

558
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,520
wanted to get on the pier, that 
I, I just would have drowned or 

559
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,520
whatever. 
And so I just, you know, 

560
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,200
continue to swim at that point, 
I could seashore. 

561
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,520
There still weren't boats out, I
guess because of the storm 

562
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,960
before. 
And again, like I said, it's 

563
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,560
kind of end of season and 
nothing I could do except 

564
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,640
continue. 
Oh, and then that's when it was 

565
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,160
that I, that I heard. 
I think it was after that that I

566
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000
saw that peer. 
That's when I heard voices. 

567
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,320
And I thought I was 
hallucinating, but I realized I 

568
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,320
was, you know, 2 male voices 
going back and forth to each 

569
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,760
other. 
And so I whistled my loud 

570
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:23,600
whistle and they yelled back or 
whistled back or something. 

571
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,520
And there was no conversation. 
I think it was just a loud 

572
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,800
whistle and echo. 
But I knew they were alive and I

573
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,440
could tell they were north of 
me. 

574
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,120
I couldn't see them at all but 
where I was hearing it from. 

575
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,760
So I said, Oh my God, they're 
alive. 

576
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,200
And and you know, I'm sure 
Christy couldn't have been with 

577
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,040
them, but I had no idea how far,
you know, with things echoing 

578
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,520
and stuff, how far they really 
were. 

579
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,880
So I just again, just kept 
swimming my direction where I 

580
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:02,880
knew I was going and yeah, made 
it all the way to where the RIP 

581
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,920
currents were and wasn't 
expecting that I'd made it all 

582
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,080
that way. 
And there was 1 lifeguard there 

583
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,000
and it just like in in the 
movies, he was talking to a girl

584
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,680
in a bikini. 
So he wasn't looking out. 

585
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,000
There's a girl standing right 
below him. 

586
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,440
And I kept seeing him looking 
down at the girl, you talking to

587
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120
her. 
And I'm hitting the shoreline 

588
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,880
and but I can't break the RIP 
current. 

589
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,720
I'm too tired. 
And so I'm trying to flail my 

590
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,960
arms, I'm whistling. 
And then I remember, OK, side 

591
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440
stroke, do side stroke. 
Even back then we knew that. 

592
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,960
So I started doing side stroke 
trying to get through the RIP 

593
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040
current and I was finally able 
to get to the RIP current. 

594
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,400
And that's when I, I was 
whistling again and, and 

595
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,720
flailing my arms. 
And that's when he saw me. 

596
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,040
And back in the day, the 
lifeguard stands had, you know, 

597
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,200
they're out on the beach and 
then there was a, a main 

598
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,760
lifeguard tower or somewhere 
else. 

599
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,560
So in the lifeguard stand, they 
had this flag long pole with a 

600
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,840
flag. 
So he, I saw him pull that out 

601
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,880
and start doing this, which will
flag the next stand and the next

602
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,800
stand and the next stand. 
So then get some, you know, help

603
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,400
down there. 
And, and then he jumped down, 

604
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,880
jumped in and was swimming 
towards me. 

605
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,920
And I asked, oh, I can't believe
this finally. 

606
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:26,239
And he's coming towards me and I
had, I'd been wearing a bikini, 

607
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,400
so I, my top had come untied or 
something. 

608
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,679
So he's trying to grab me. 
And I don't even think they had 

609
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:33,800
those boards or anything back 
then. 

610
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,880
I can't remember what it was, 
but he's trying to grab me and 

611
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,239
I'm trying to get my bathing 
suit top on tied back up and 

612
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,719
he's going to leave that alone. 
Just getting the shore. 

613
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,400
Yeah. 
And I get it done. 

614
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:52,400
And yeah, he helps drag me back 
into shore and he's like yelling

615
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,800
at me. 
He's what the hell are you 

616
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,560
doing? 
We got red flag warnings out. 

617
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,120
He said you're not supposed to 
be out here. 

618
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,680
And he goes, I don't care if 
you're a lifeguard or not. 

619
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,680
There's no swimming out here. 
You know better. 

620
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:07,920
I said I'm not a lifeguard. 
And I said I just swam. 

621
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,040
I've been out in the ocean for 
about 24 hours and I think I 

622
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,600
just swam like 5 or 6 miles. 
I've been out there for at least

623
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,440
nine hours because I knew at 
that time, I don't know how, 

624
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,040
whether he told me what time it 
was. 

625
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,200
It was 3:00 in the afternoon, 
3:30 when I got there. 

626
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,960
I probably been swimming like 9 
hours. 

627
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,440
And, you know, he just laughed. 
No, but he just laughed. 

628
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,680
He didn't. 
He was like, yeah, right. 

629
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,480
And then he started looking me 
up and down and saw all the man 

630
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,600
of war stings and I was had 
overexposure, you know, sunburn 

631
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,440
and all that kind of stuff. 
I said there's still a boat out 

632
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,920
there and there's two guys. 
I said one of the girls that was

633
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,760
with us, I believe was killed by
a shark. 

634
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,800
And he was just like, what? 
He was just like, yeah. 

635
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840
And so I said please, if you 
can, you know, get somebody 

636
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,080
because I think the two guys 
might still be alive. 

637
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,320
And so. 
Yeah, so they, the, the, the 

638
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:07,720
beach truck came roaring in and 
they took me in and, and I told,

639
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:11,400
tried telling the story and they
took me to the lifeguard stand, 

640
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,440
got me some. 
I remember the Big Gulp was all 

641
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,400
they had there. 
Big Gulp, Coca-Cola and I yeah. 

642
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,600
So do you, do you want some? 
I said yes, I just drank the 

643
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:25,120
whole thing and, and then I 
think I passed out and, and then

644
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:29,880
they had called an ambulance and
continued to ask me the story 

645
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,320
and, and all that, trying to get
the information. 

646
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,720
I told them information about 
the guys and, and so I think 

647
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,080
they were a little bit north of 
me. 

648
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,560
And you know, just as briefly as
I could that yes, we were in a 

649
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,280
catamaran. 
We were out there, we're out 

650
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,600
there all night. 
I saw the girl get attacked by a

651
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,960
shark. 
So it was a big, huge deal and 

652
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400
and then being the responsible 
when I asked if I could use a 

653
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,760
phone because I was supposed to 
be at work at 4:00. 

654
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,760
And can I use the phone to call 
the Daytona Hilton? 

655
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,320
Yes. 
You're going to call into work. 

656
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,160
Yes. 
So I had to call and I called 

657
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,240
and spoke to my manager and I 
said I can't tell you anything 

658
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,440
right now, but I can't be into 
work. 

659
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,520
And you know, when you're a 
waitress and bartender, that's 

660
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,680
very important that you're 
there, right? 

661
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,440
Right. 
So she was very upset with me. 

662
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,240
And I said, I can't tell you. 
You'll know. 

663
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,880
You'll know in the morning. 
And so that was it. 

664
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,320
And so from there, they took me 
to the hospital. 

665
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,760
And by that time, somehow it was
full of press already and the 

666
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,320
police. 
And so when I got there, a 

667
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,320
policeman came out. 
Actually, I was in a car. 

668
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,480
I don't think I was in an 
ambulance. 

669
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,680
They'd driven me, a policeman 
came out and said I'm going to 

670
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,560
take you in the back way because
there's all all this press out 

671
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,200
here and I need to get your 
statement and all that. 

672
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,600
So I went in the back way to the
hospital and got in there and 

673
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,120
they just liquids, liquids 
sprayed stuff on my body for the

674
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:08,920
the stings. 
And, and the guy came in, the 

675
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,040
captain or whatever came in and 
start asking me the questions 

676
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,200
about what had happened. 
And I told him, and at the end 

677
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,400
of it, he told me that the 
information was that everybody 

678
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,680
was found and they were all at a
different hospital. 

679
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,880
And I said, and Christy, the 
girl, he said they said 

680
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,640
everybody. 
And I was like, Oh my God, I 

681
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,080
can't believe that, you know, 
but I just figured maybe they'd 

682
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,200
rescued out out there. 
I had no clue. 

683
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:40,040
So I was supposed to stay 
overnight in the hospital. 

684
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,720
I said no. 
I said I can, I can walk. 

685
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:44,160
I'll call my roommate and she 
can come get me. 

686
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,760
And and I think I'll be OK. 
And they were just telling me 

687
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,760
hydrate and all that. 
I didn't have hypothermia. 

688
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:55,400
So that was crazy because that's
what Daniel or Randy end up he 

689
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,760
was in the hospital for because 
he had hypothermia really bad. 

690
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,600
And yeah, so my roommate, I 
guess they call my roommate and 

691
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,040
I probably fell asleep for a 
while. 

692
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,920
And when I woke up, they said 
she was had come, but when she 

693
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:11,520
found out what happened, that 
she had passed out. 

694
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,880
She had passed out in the hall, 
but they were getting her 

695
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,280
together so she could Take Me 
Home. 

696
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,920
So yeah. 
So I went home. 

697
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,600
And back then, we just had the 
home phones. 

698
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,400
But the phone started ringing 
and one of the first phone calls

699
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,320
was my boss. 
And she goes, oh, my God, I just

700
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,360
saw this on the news. 
I'm so sorry I yelled at you. 

701
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,080
It was already on that nightly 
news. 

702
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,320
She said, what in the world? 
She said, you don't have to tell

703
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,360
me anything, You know, I'll talk
to you, talk to you when you 

704
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,560
feel better. 
But it was just funny. 

705
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,720
And then after that, it was just
all the press, whoever could get

706
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:52,080
a hold of me via the phone, they
were just calling. 

707
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,200
And, yeah, so the first night, I
finally had to just tell my 

708
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,160
roommate just to, you know, not 
answer anymore or to tell him I 

709
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,520
can't talk. 
Then I went to bed and. 

710
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,640
Slept and I remember that first 
night sleeping and it was just 

711
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,600
complete rocking, rocking, 
rocking. 

712
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,360
I didn't have any nightmares but
I woke up yes with the whole 

713
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,800
thing in my head but. 
How did the other two guys make 

714
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,280
it back? 
They swam. 

715
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,760
I heard that Randy was picked up
offshore. 

716
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,440
That's her. 
The boyfriend that he was picked

717
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,600
up, whether it be a helicopter 
or something. 

718
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,800
I heard that Daniel made it to 
shore, but they were almost 5 

719
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,520
miles north of me. 
So that's what the thing was 

720
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,440
with the National Geographic 
photographer that later talked 

721
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,760
to me because about the 
currents. 

722
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:38,760
And there was an incredible 
undertow. 

723
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,040
And so it was incredible that I 
was able to swim straight into 

724
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
shore pretty much from the boat.
And those guys had made almost 5

725
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,960
miles north of me, four or five 
miles north of me because they 

726
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,040
went more with the current. 
Were they together? 

727
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,040
I don't think so. 
They probably were close, but I 

728
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,320
just know I don't know anything 
about Daniel. 

729
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,120
Like I said, he got shore. 
Somebody must have been a 

730
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,400
lifeguard or something because 
they when I read one of the 

731
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:06,880
articles later, he had made a 
comment to them. 

732
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,640
So I don't know if it's the 
police that got there and spoke 

733
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,200
to him, but he apparently didn't
go to the hospital. 

734
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000
He refused everything. 
Yeah, he refused everything. 

735
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000
This is what Randy told me later
is that he, he left, he went to 

736
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,400
Key West. 
He was like really messed up in 

737
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,880
the head and went to Key West to
his dad's. 

738
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,880
So nobody really kind of talked 
to him. 

739
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,400
I think Randy talked to him a 
little bit. 

740
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,800
But he he, yeah, I never spoke 
to him again, never saw him. 

741
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,480
Wow, really. 
Yeah. 

742
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,040
Either anybody? 
No, I went to see, went to the 

743
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,720
hospital to see Daniel and talk 
to him. 

744
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,280
And then he was like I said, he 
was just upset. 

745
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,040
This is probably 3 or 4 days and
afterwards because all the 

746
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,360
articles were coming out and, 
and he was reading everything. 

747
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,720
His parents had come in and, you
know, they were showing him all 

748
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:54,880
the stuff and Oh no, that's not 
right. 

749
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160
That's not right, you know. 
So he was like, when I came in 

750
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,680
there, I said you can give your,
your account or whatever 

751
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,800
happened to you. 
I just gave my account what 

752
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,520
happened to me. 
So it kind of, I was like kind 

753
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:05,840
of pissed me off. 
This is not a time to be 

754
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,920
arguing, dude, you know? 
So I just kind of left that and 

755
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,640
I didn't see him again 
afterwards. 

756
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,360
I never saw him after after 
that. 

757
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,800
Wow, really? 
We've never spoken ever since 

758
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,160
and don't know what he's up to. 
No. 

759
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,360
And like I said, we had, you 
know, we didn't have cell 

760
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
phones, we didn't have e-mail, 
all that kind of stuff. 

761
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,960
So we didn't even. 
Know how did you last night? 

762
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:30,560
Not at all. 
I mean just that was his 

763
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,120
girlfriend. 
I met her a few times. 

764
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,120
They both went worked at Emory 
Riddle. 

765
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,720
He was actually going, I think 
to be a pilot and Emory Riddle, 

766
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,760
but she was just working, I 
think an admin there or 

767
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,280
something, but I'm not for sure.
But they were dating. 

768
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,120
So they were my absolute right 
next door neighbors for a while,

769
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,600
but she would come and go. 
I think she was from Chicago, so

770
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,240
she wasn't really living there 
permanently. 

771
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,920
So I met her quite a few times, 
but we weren't friends and I 

772
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,520
wasn't even that good of friends
with him either, just neighbors.

773
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,560
So that's yeah. 
So it was the probably the worst

774
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,000
blind date I've ever been on in 
my. 

775
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Life. 
But yeah, so, you know, I didn't

776
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,320
think I could get any worse. 
But the next day after it 

777
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,680
happened, I get a call and it 
was from an attorney and he told

778
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,840
me who he was. 
He's from Daytona and and 

779
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,040
explained to me that Christie's 
parents had already been 

780
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,200
contacted, I believe from 
Chicago. 

781
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,720
They'd already flown in last 
night and they'd already 

782
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:37,240
contacted an attorney and they 
asked if they could speak to me 

783
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,760
about what happened. 
And I was this is the next day. 

784
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,560
So I said OK. 
And so I went to their hotel. 

785
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:52,040
My roommate took me to their 
hotel and went in, started and 

786
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,480
had the conversation with them. 
And the only thing I tried to 

787
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:04,400
do, I stayed calm and and I just
tried to, I wanted to hurt them 

788
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,640
to feel like she was at peace. 
I, I told her about on the, on 

789
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,600
the boat through the night that 
she got been really calm, 

790
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,520
whether she knew something was 
going to happen. 

791
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,440
Not that a horrible thing was 
going to happen, but I knew she 

792
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,880
was, she was making peace or 
something. 

793
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,120
And I also told him that, you 
know, I thought maybe the only 

794
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,600
reason, maybe why she was, she 
wasn't flailing, she was 

795
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,160
swimming. 
OK, but maybe she was on her 

796
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,120
period. 
Maybe that was why somehow she 

797
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
was attacked and they were 
going. 

798
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,280
She wasn't attacked. 
You guys left her to drown. 

799
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,640
She wasn't killed by a shot. 
Yeah. 

800
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,880
You guys left her to drown. 
You left my daughter. 

801
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,520
And I was saying, no, that's not
what happened. 

802
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,840
That I I saw it. 
And, you know, they just didn't 

803
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,840
want to believe it. 
So even after recanting the 

804
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,080
whole story, recanting the whole
story. 

805
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,520
And that was the first time I 
had to do the full, full story. 

806
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,920
At the end of it, they asked if 
I could do 2 favors for him. 

807
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,200
And they said sure. 
And they said, if we give you 

808
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,400
the keys, can you can you please
go pick up Christy's car from 

809
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,720
the beach? 
Yeah. 

810
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,960
What? 
Yes, and I was they. 

811
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,160
Asked you to pick up her car. 
Wow. 

812
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,400
OK. 
Yeah. 

813
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,760
And then as I was getting ready 
to go, I said, OK, well, I can 

814
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,200
probably, you know, see if my 
roommate will do that and, and 

815
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:38,320
and then as I was getting ready 
and can you do, can we get 

816
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,840
another favor? 
Is there any way you can go if 

817
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,960
it's the McDonald's or Burger 
King just down the corner? 

818
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,000
I guess they didn't have a car 
with them. 

819
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,400
They'd flown in and taking a 
taxi. 

820
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,840
I don't know. 
They asked me to go get them 

821
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,040
cheeseburgers and bring it back.
Yes. 

822
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,160
And that's the that's the honest
truth. 

823
00:45:55,560 --> 00:46:00,640
And that's when I walked out of 
there and I said, did this 

824
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,120
really happen to me or is is? 
Sounds like her parents. 

825
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,640
Were am I just a storyteller? 
Wow, that's yeah, it was the 

826
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,320
weirdest is. 
That just wait, was that like a 

827
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,560
coping mechanism? 
I mean, that's, that's just 

828
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,080
really odd. 
That's about to ask the person 

829
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,920
who just survived this situation
with their daughter who just 

830
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,120
died to. 
Go pick up her car. 

831
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,720
That's weird. 
Yes, it was very and I went and 

832
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:28,160
told my roommate and honestly, I
don't remember after that. 

833
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,240
I know we went and got her car. 
I don't know if I got the 

834
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,040
cheeseburgers. 
I don't remember that probably 

835
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,720
did. 
But yes, it was it was at that 

836
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:41,560
moment where it kind of clicked 
in my head like OK, and I'd 

837
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,480
already told the story already 
on on the, you know, via phone 

838
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,560
or whatever. 
So I kept repeating the story 

839
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,480
and I was going, I mean, it 
literally was like a, I didn't 

840
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,440
have time to grieve. 
I didn't have time to, to do 

841
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,200
anything. 
I was thinking, am I, was I 

842
00:46:56,240 --> 00:46:58,680
really in this incident or am I 
just the storyteller, the 

843
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,000
person? 
That's seen. 

844
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,840
This and yeah and then right 
after the the second day or 

845
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,160
something, which is I have one 
of the pictures here of what 

846
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,520
they took. 
They had to call me and actually

847
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,840
asked me one of the reporters 
and they come from come up from 

848
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,680
Miami, but they were like a 
European something. 

849
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Oh, we drove all the way from 
Miami or flew in from Miami and 

850
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,120
we want to see if you put your 
bikini on and go down to the 

851
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,040
boat dock where they were 
supposed to bring the boat in 

852
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,920
and maybe take some pictures 
down there. 

853
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:32,400
I was like, no, Oh my gosh, no, 
no. 

854
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,720
And in the end I found out the 
boat didn't make it. 

855
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,960
Coast Guard went to, they did 
find the boat, but as they were 

856
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,160
trying to bring it back in, 
hauling it, it broke up. 

857
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,960
So they never got the boat all 
the way back to the to the yard.

858
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,040
But yeah, it was, it was, it was
pretty surreal. 

859
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,480
And again, the I didn't call my 
parents right away. 

860
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,200
I called my brother the next day
in California. 

861
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,440
And I was like, no, no, because 
I was like, I didn't know. 

862
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,120
It was just, it was such a weird
thing. 

863
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,400
I was like, OK, well, this is 
just going to wash over, you 

864
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:11,000
know, I just, I didn't take it 
as I mean, I knew it was a big 

865
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,000
deal, but it was more about her,
not not me. 

866
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:18,840
And so I didn't call them. 
So I called my brother and the 

867
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,040
same thing happened when I was 
talking to him. 

868
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,120
I guess he kind of got pale or 
something. 

869
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,120
I remember his roommate got on 
and said hold on, what happened?

870
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:28,960
He said, because your brother's 
like not feeling good. 

871
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:33,800
I was telling my brother a story
and I was like, OK, so anyways, 

872
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,680
my brother said yes, we have to 
tell. 

873
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,600
You have to tell mom and dad 
what happened. 

874
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:42,520
And they lived in Indiana and, 
and so I don't even remember 

875
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,800
when I called him afterwards. 
I waited for him to fly. 

876
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,000
He said I'm flying down there 
right now. 

877
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,160
And so he flew down and, and, 
and stayed with me for a few 

878
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:56,800
days. 
I talked to my parents and, and 

879
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,360
the yeah. 
And then it was then it was all 

880
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,480
kinds of stuff, like people 
contact me saying like, we 

881
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:04,800
didn't tell my, I didn't tell my
grandma. 

882
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,640
So it's up in Indiana. 
Also, my parents decided not to 

883
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,200
tell her at the time, you know, 
right away. 

884
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:13,120
And so she ended up getting 
calls from people in another 

885
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,680
state saying, isn't this your 
granddaughter? 

886
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,520
Because it was all over the 
United States. 

887
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,640
I mean, the newspapers 
everywhere. 

888
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,040
Yeah. 
I was very, very, very 

889
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:27,240
interesting. 
And then the attorney, he ended 

890
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:30,440
up contacting me again and 
taking me out to lunch. 

891
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,840
I told him what had happened 
with, with the parents. 

892
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,640
And he goes, look, he said, you 
know, they're obviously they're 

893
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,840
very upset and they don't know, 
you know, they, they feel like 

894
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,280
you guys left her, but they also
know, you know, I've convinced 

895
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,160
them that yes, it was a, a boat.
It could have been a boat 

896
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,600
manufacturing defects because 
catamarans aren't supposed to 

897
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,480
sink. 
Oh yeah, OK. 

898
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,280
And so that's how it all started
where I guess they actually 

899
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,400
started a lawsuit against NACRA 
boat manufacturer. 

900
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:05,040
So John Robinson was the 
attorney, has to remember him, 

901
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,280
very nice person. 
He asked me if I do a couple 

902
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,200
things for him, if I would go 
with him to the boat dealership,

903
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:18,120
but not as like almost as a not 
a spy, but don't tell them who 

904
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,000
you are because I'm going to ask
yeah, we want to ask some 

905
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,800
questions to to about this, this
boat and all. 

906
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,960
So I went with him to that And 
and of course he knew about the 

907
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,600
accident already. 
Didn't know who we were. 

908
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,680
But you know, he said, Oh yeah, 
they should, they didn't have 

909
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,480
life jackets. 
They shouldn't have never left 

910
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:34,800
that boat. 
The boat never would have sunk 

911
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:41,040
on all this kind of stuff. 
And I just, you know, whatever, 

912
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,800
I was hung out with him for a 
few days and he told me that 

913
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,240
there was probably going to be a
lawsuit and that he'd be in 

914
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,160
contact with me because he'd 
already seen Randy in the 

915
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,720
hospital. 
And he said he's not in a good 

916
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:57,200
state of mind to be able to talk
or recall and things like that. 

917
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,400
And so I said, OK, I said I'm 
had already thought about moving

918
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:08,080
to Atlanta this end of end of 
summer and I've been down there 

919
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,400
a few years and went and lived 
in Vero Beach. 

920
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,200
And then I moved up to Daytona 
for a couple years. 

921
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,440
But I was kind of ready, you 
know, to get out of the at the 

922
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200
party, party scene. 
And it wasn't even about the the

923
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,520
accident. 
I already kind of knew things 

924
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,560
happen. 
And for me, things happen always

925
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,080
whenever I'm about to make a 
move. 

926
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,520
And this was a big thing. 
So I said, OK, I guess it's time

927
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,440
for me to go. 
So I let him know that. 

928
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,040
So, you know, he had whatever 
didn't have e-mail, I guess an 

929
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,080
address or phone number I had of
my parents. 

930
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:43,280
I think I gave it to him and 
later was called after I moved 

931
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,520
there and stuff for the 
deposition and all that. 

932
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,160
I had to go down, back down for 
the court case. 

933
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,440
But you know, in between that it
was before I left again in 

934
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Daytona, I was a bar person. 
So I was going to, you know, the

935
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,000
same bars and things like that 
and listen to music and, and so 

936
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,640
every time I went in, it was 
everybody knew who I was. 

937
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,560
There was just free drinks and, 
you know, Oh my God, that's the 

938
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,400
story, you know, So I was like 
the, the little, little Daytona 

939
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,360
hero or something. 
I said, I'm not a hero. 

940
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,240
I'm not a hero, I'm not a hero. 
A girl died, you know, I just 

941
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:20,760
did what I could to survive. 
And it was, it was funny. 

942
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:26,520
A guy that I had dated a little 
bit before, he, we didn't date 

943
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,560
very long, but he saw me one 
night and he's like, Oh my God, 

944
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,800
my parents want to meet you. 
My parents want to meet you and 

945
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,760
stuff. 
I was like, OK, whatever. 

946
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:36,640
So that. 
Yeah. 

947
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,240
So, so that was, that was, that 
was different. 

948
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:43,640
And and again, I think all that 
kept me from from grieving 

949
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,680
really. 
I, I couldn't really, it became 

950
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,920
a story to me. 
And that's how that's how I 

951
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,240
survived, you know, not really 
having to go back. 

952
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,000
I mean, I did have obviously 
thoughts of it all the time 

953
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,480
right after I couldn't get into 
dark water again. 

954
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:09,120
That was one of the reasons when
I moved to to Georgia, I don't 

955
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,920
know how long I was up there, 
six months or something. 

956
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,080
And I was bartending up there 
and I actually, one of the 

957
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,640
bartenders was 10 years older 
than me and we made really good 

958
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:21,360
friends right away. 
And one night I was out with her

959
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,560
at another bar and I just looked
at this bartender and and Rita, 

960
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,680
my friend looked at me and she's
like, what's wrong? 

961
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,720
I said, she said, you look like 
you saw a ghost. 

962
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:35,040
And I said, oh, my God, I 
haven't told you this, but. 

963
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,720
And we were good friends. 
I just didn't ever bring it up 

964
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:41,400
to anybody after I left Florida.
And I told her she looked like 

965
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,040
somebody that I knew. 
And this bartender looked like 

966
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,400
Christy reminded me of Christy. 
So I ended up telling her, 

967
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,640
starting to tell her the story. 
And she just like went stop, 

968
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,160
stop, Wait a minute. 
I said, she goes, you're not the

969
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,880
girl that survived, are you? 
And I said, I said, yeah, I 

970
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,520
survived. 
She goes, oh, my God, my mom 

971
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,640
lives in Naples. 
She said, I used to, I heard 

972
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:03,880
about this story up here in 
Atlanta. 

973
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,680
And I kept calling my mom 
saying, you got to find out who 

974
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,120
that girl is. 
That's incredible. 

975
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,400
How did she survive? 
And and, you know, the articles,

976
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,240
send me the articles and all 
this kind of stuff. 

977
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,720
So it was like, you know, she 
knew the whole thing. 

978
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,600
And yeah, again, that was like a
soul connection or whatever. 

979
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,680
But it was, it was through her 
afterwards that she, she ended 

980
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:30,840
up talking me in to go and live 
on a 32 foot, 32 foot sailboat 

981
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,360
in in the Caribbean, what with 
two people. 

982
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:39,800
We didn't know what because back
then, yes, yes, we were up in 

983
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:47,440
Atlanta bartending and she had 
always loved, I don't know, I 

984
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,200
think, I think she like captains
and see things. 

985
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,160
How far, How long after this? 
Less than a year. 

986
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,920
Yeah, I was up there. 
You were able to get out on a 

987
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,920
sailboat and live on it. 
Yeah, lived on it. 

988
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:05,880
And she had she had back in the 
back in the 80s, it was pretty, 

989
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,560
pretty good times where fun 
times where there wasn't as much

990
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,880
dangerous people think she had 
actually been writing to 

991
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,040
somebody in the yachting from a 
yachting magazine article, this 

992
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,920
captain who liked to take crew 
that he would take female crew 

993
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,640
free, but you'd have to pay, you
know, bring some pitch in for 

994
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,040
the food. 
I'm still stuck on the fact that

995
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,960
you're living on a sailboat. 
Yes. 

996
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,240
Less than a year later, yeah. 
I can't. 

997
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,480
Well, I wanted to get over my 
fear, 'cause I love, love the 

998
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,640
ocean. 
That's impressive. 

999
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,360
And it's not dark water, so it 
was in the Caribbean, so I knew 

1000
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,160
I'd be, you know, in the 
Clearwater. 

1001
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,760
But yes, that was a tale. 
You think that that's looking 

1002
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,400
back on that, do you feel like 
that was a that had to have been

1003
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,320
a positive thing for you to do 
right like that, that was 

1004
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,480
probably set some other things 
in motion for you to get over. 

1005
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,640
Absolutely. 
And that's why I did it. 

1006
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,080
It was just because I I loved. 
That's impressive that you did 

1007
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,320
it, that you had enough. 
Wow. 

1008
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,480
Yeah, that's, that's love the 
ocean. 

1009
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,240
And I, I didn't think, I didn't 
think lightning was strike 

1010
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,880
twice. 
So that was the other reason. 

1011
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,600
So I said, let me take this 
opportunity. 

1012
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,520
And yeah, we left and we're out 
there two or three months we 

1013
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:22,160
lived out there, I guess. 
And yeah, the the one thing when

1014
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,920
I when we went and actually met,
I actually met the captain and 

1015
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,480
she met, she met him for the 
first time. 

1016
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,840
And when we're getting ready to 
leave Miami, he goes, OK, so I 

1017
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,800
guess Rita, you're the more 
experienced sailor. 

1018
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,640
And she and she was like, yeah, 
I sailed Lake MI, you know, like

1019
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,640
10 years ago or whatever. 
My family had a thing. 

1020
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,000
He goes, what do you mean? 
Have you ever ocean sail sailed 

1021
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,520
in the ocean? 
And she said, no, just on Lake 

1022
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:46,440
MI. 
But, you know, it's pretty 

1023
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,920
rough. 
And he was like, oh, my God. 

1024
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,360
He goes, what happens if 
something happens to me out 

1025
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,520
here? 
And we hadn't thought of 

1026
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:55,600
anything. 
I don't know anything about 

1027
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,440
sailing. 
I don't know how to swim. 

1028
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,600
But I didn't know anything about
sailing. 

1029
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:03,160
So at the dock, he gets out, 
runs into the bar and comes out 

1030
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,040
with another man, young guy 
named Beezer. 

1031
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,200
This guy's going with us. 
You guys are not. 

1032
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,280
Yeah, this guy's going with us. 
You don't know how to sail in 

1033
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,600
the ocean. 
I don't know if we're going to 

1034
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,320
make it across the. 
We got to go across the Bermuda 

1035
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:18,760
Triangle. 
And and, and he said that I was 

1036
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,000
going, Rita, I told you I could 
do anything. 

1037
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,280
He said go go across the Bermuda
Triangle. 

1038
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,680
Oh my gosh. 
So the first night was like I 

1039
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,440
was down in my bunk just like 
freaking out. 

1040
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,360
Of course there was a storm and 
all this kind of stuff to get 

1041
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,240
across. 
So that was that was my intro to

1042
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,720
all that. 
And he didn't know anything 

1043
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,280
about my story either. 
He didn't know. 

1044
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,120
When did did they find out while
you were out there? 

1045
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:41,720
He he did weeks into it, we were
out, out and about. 

1046
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,160
And all of a sudden I hear, I 
mean, I feel the boat, he's 

1047
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,440
healing the boat decide he goes 
that way. 

1048
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,560
He goes, these are taken and he 
runs downstairs and he comes 

1049
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,240
back up with a shotgun and I, I 
was like, what? 

1050
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,680
He goes. 
We're going to shark hunting. 

1051
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,560
Oh my gosh, so. 
You see shark in the water, so 

1052
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,200
he's go to shark hunting for 
real. 

1053
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:07,480
And so the boat's healing or 
just a 32 foot sail, you know, I

1054
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,040
mean, you like touch the water. 
I'm seeing shark fins out there 

1055
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,840
and I just like, you know, 
flipping out. 

1056
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,440
So I just go to, you know, 
downstairs and Rita comes down 

1057
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,280
and, you know, I was like, Oh my
God, I'm like, I can't see, I 

1058
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,640
can't watch this. 
And I still didn't say anything.

1059
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,240
But she ended up going upstairs 
and telling them, you know, you 

1060
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,240
got to hear the story so that I 
had to sit down with them with 

1061
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,360
the story. 
And that captain, he was so nice

1062
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,680
to me after he was, you know, 
he's an older man because she 

1063
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,600
was 10 years old and I think he 
was 10 years old and she was 

1064
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,920
like 20 years. 
He was wonderful, wonderful, 

1065
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,080
wonderful. 
The rest of the trip was 

1066
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,920
wonderful. 
He tried, you know, treating me 

1067
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,880
like a daughter and make sure I 
was OK. 

1068
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,000
And, and he actually took me a 
lot of ironic things happened 

1069
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:52,160
because I, he took me to Spanish
Wells and he goes, I need to 

1070
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,640
meet somebody. 
And so we got off on Spanish 

1071
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,600
Wells, which at that time he had
to go just by boat. 

1072
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,880
And it was the only island that 
it was only white people lived 

1073
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,320
there. 
So they, they were like one of 

1074
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,320
the first places to take 
Australian slaves. 

1075
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,000
And, and you know, if, if the 
black people came, it was just 

1076
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,320
to, to do the, the gardens or 
whatever. 

1077
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:18,000
Weird island actually had some 
like deliverance stuff like meet

1078
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,760
across like kids and things like
that. 

1079
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:26,640
Everyone's blue eyed blonde, but
he took me to meet this guy 

1080
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,880
named Roy Pinter Pinter Pinter 
Pinter. 

1081
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:38,320
And he was a a diver like a, a 
spear fisherman. 

1082
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,520
But that dove really deep. 
And at one point he was in a 

1083
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,800
contest or something like that. 
And he had gone down and and 

1084
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:47,880
spearfish. 
I think it was free. 

1085
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,520
I think it was free. 
I don't think he no. 

1086
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,040
He did have a mask yeah. 
I think it was free diving, 

1087
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,080
though he didn't use the the 
equipment. 

1088
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:57,680
So he was down deep got 
something. 

1089
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,520
And as he was coming back up, he
he was holding like this. 

1090
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,760
He felt a tug on it. 
When he turned it was a shark 

1091
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,640
and the shark got him in the 
face. 

1092
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,960
What? 
Oh man, yes, got him and and the

1093
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:15,000
mask stopped it from you know 
the all like all underneath here

1094
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:18,080
was was bit, but you know 
whatever the shark got off. 

1095
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,200
Well, I guess he was just a 
really loved man on the island. 

1096
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,920
And so, you know, the people 
that were out there saw whatever

1097
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:29,240
they were able to get him up to 
the boat and to a small plane or

1098
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,120
helicopter. 
They flew him to Miami and saved

1099
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,360
him And but he still had, you 
know, stitches and stuff like 

1100
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,920
that. 
But he he wanted me to meet him 

1101
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,840
because this the man to this day
and I don't know how many years 

1102
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,280
that he was just smile on his 
face the whole time. 

1103
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,680
Happiest man in the world. 
We talked and talked and just, 

1104
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,720
you know, just had a just said, 
yeah, this is it happened and, 

1105
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680
you know, just move on with your
life and stuff like that. 

1106
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,920
So that's it was pretty cool, 
yeah. 

1107
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,560
What's life like been what's 
life been like for you since I 

1108
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:00,520
mean, this is a long time it. 
Was right that's in the back in 

1109
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:04,040
the 80s yeah. 
And that was the 80s, my good 

1110
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,400
years. 
And after, after that happened, 

1111
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,880
I also ended up when I came back
to Georgia, Rita went to work 

1112
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,600
for Windjammer. 
And that's How I Met the owner's

1113
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,480
son. 
She sent him up to her house 

1114
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,640
where I was living in Georgia 
and, and met him. 

1115
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,760
He goes, oh, we got a new boat, 
new ship going out. 

1116
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,640
If you want to bartend, you can 
do it and come on, come on down,

1117
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,080
you can do that. 
So I, I was on the, the, the 

1118
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,760
next night he was getting on the
Windjammer, which is like the 

1119
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,040
pirate ships and stuff. 
And it was a maiden voyage. 

1120
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:39,560
So they had a lot of celebrities
leaving local or whatever, but 

1121
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:42,800
other, other celebrities too. 
And it just so happened that I 

1122
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,000
found out which I didn't know 
who he was at the time, but Joe 

1123
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,360
Alvis, my, my friend Rita, who 
was the purser, told me, you 

1124
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,240
know who Joe Alvis is. 
I said, no, she said she, he's 

1125
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,760
the director of Jaws three. 
He's on here. 

1126
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:58,520
And so yes, he's on here. 
And so she had all my articles 

1127
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,200
that her mom had sent. 
She's always carried him around 

1128
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,880
and stuff and 'cause I guess 
she, I think she wanted to show 

1129
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,880
the captain or something. 
And so. 

1130
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,680
Total coincidence. 
Total coincidence. 

1131
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So we're going, you know, we 

1132
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:11,920
went out. 
Yeah. 

1133
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,800
I mean, it's just, yeah, very 
just crazy. 

1134
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:18,840
And so we sailed off and I have 
like this, I don't know, the 

1135
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,600
first night or second night that
she had, I guess spoken to him 

1136
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,120
and, and said, told him a little
bit about me. 

1137
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,400
And so he wanted to know more. 
She said I have articles. 

1138
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,800
So I have, he actually came to 
the bar, you know, met me 

1139
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:31,440
obviously. 
And. 

1140
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,840
And then I have the picture of 
him reading my article, one of 

1141
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,480
the articles about the story. 
And he was just like amazed and 

1142
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,480
aghast. 
And he said, Oh my God, if I 

1143
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,560
ever do another shark movie, I'm
calling you. 

1144
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,680
And I was like, OK, hey, he 
said, we don't have cell phones 

1145
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,760
back then, so you know how 
you're going to call me. 

1146
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,440
But but yeah. 
And. 

1147
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:57,600
And so those just, again, ironic
things that happen and. 

1148
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,840
Yep. 
Are you still, do you, do you 

1149
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,480
have PTSD? 
Do. 

1150
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,800
You. 
No, Oh, no, I never. 

1151
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,080
I never had it as far as I know.
Every once in a while, because I

1152
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,800
still like when I moved to 
Georgia away from the ocean, 

1153
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:18,600
then I would would lap swim, you
know, at the the Y or something.

1154
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,880
And when I was laps swimming 
more back then, yeah, after I 

1155
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,960
swam for a while, then I start 
seeing things and even in the 

1156
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:27,920
pools. 
So that kind of stuff happened 

1157
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,120
to me, but. 
How many years after that? 

1158
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,600
It would have been a few years, 
a couple years, but nothing 

1159
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,240
again. 
I don't tell the story ever, 

1160
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,720
unless there's something that I 
just know I'm supposed to tell 

1161
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,400
it, like something comes up with
somebody, random person or 

1162
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,120
whatever. 
And I know this is something 

1163
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,680
they need to hear. 
And so it's not like I, you 

1164
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:55,600
know, I dwell on it or, or, or 
think about it, think about it 

1165
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:56,840
that much. 
Well, and, you know, and in the 

1166
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:02,480
end, I, I moved to South America
for like 15 years and, you know,

1167
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,640
people didn't, nobody knew about
it down there. 

1168
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:12,000
And I just live my life normal 
and, you know, and yeah, just 

1169
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:16,160
had my kids and, and just kept 
moving on. 

1170
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,640
Yeah. 
So what are your what are your 

1171
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,600
kids think of your story? 
Yeah, they're amazed. 

1172
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,120
They're they're amazed. 
My daughter's always like, not 

1173
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,840
an anniversary, but something 
comes up. 

1174
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,080
She'll, you know, she'll say 
something or want me to post 

1175
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,400
something. 
And, and Joss just had their 

1176
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,080
50th anniversary in Martha's 
Vineyard. 

1177
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,640
And I almost was going to go 
because Joe Alvis is still 

1178
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:38,960
alive. 
And I actually went on his 

1179
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,080
Facebook page and, and sent him 
a picture of the picture of him 

1180
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,320
back then. 
But I don't know if he reads the

1181
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,960
Facebook page or if it's 
somebody else, you know, an 

1182
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,040
assistant or whatever. 
But I, I thought about going to 

1183
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,640
the reunion because I knew he 
was going to be Yeah. 

1184
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,120
But I didn't, I didn't go. 
It was this summer. 

1185
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,040
And in the end, it's like, yeah.
So it OK, I ask everybody this 

1186
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:05,360
now, obviously we don't, you 
know, Christie, it's a terrible 

1187
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,880
thing that happened. 
But if you could go back and 

1188
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:14,520
pull this from ever happening to
you, if it was, you know, if you

1189
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,240
could have been off the boat 
somehow, if if you could pull 

1190
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,120
this out of your life, would 
you? 

1191
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,160
Oh. 
Of course not. 

1192
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,280
No, no, because it all led to 
everything else. 

1193
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:30,040
That's what you know, especially
the sailboats afterwards and 

1194
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,240
having that experience and 
working on Windjammer. 

1195
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,080
I mean, these are to me. 
I write. 

1196
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,280
I've actually written a memoir 
that hasn't been published. 

1197
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,680
Looking for an editor? 
You hear that? 

1198
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,240
Anybody listening? 
Looking for an editor I have 

1199
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:49,920
written about 340 pages 350. 
Pagesemailcontact@danbeckeroutdoors.com.

1200
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:51,640
Yes, please. 
Yes, please. 

1201
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,520
I mean, most people say it 
should be made into a movie. 

1202
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,800
And so I went to Scarlett. 
I was. 

1203
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,400
Actually. 
Thinking that I wanted Scarlett 

1204
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,160
Johansson. 
You're, you're, you're gonna 

1205
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,280
read the comments of this 
podcast and it's gonna be like, 

1206
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,720
where's the movie? 
I wanted Scarlett Johansson to 

1207
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,160
be my to be me many years ago, 
Garlett. 

1208
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,600
But you are watching. 
But now? 

1209
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,800
Now she's too old. 
Sorry Scarlett, but that was 

1210
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:11,840
only 20 back then. 
Wow. 

1211
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,920
But yes, that's people that have
heard it. 

1212
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:19,880
Oh my God, this, this would be a
great movie. 

1213
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:25,080
And and again, yeah, I wrote, I 
wrote the memoir for myself and 

1214
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:29,640
my kids because I've had a whole
lot more experiences, not terror

1215
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,160
experiences of just moving out 
of the country, starting a 

1216
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,720
business, the whole learning 
another language and, you know, 

1217
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,080
and things like that. 
And, and, and traveling just so 

1218
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,840
I've, I've survived. 
So I have a good bit a lot of 

1219
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,880
crazy times in the 80s too. 
And, and, but yeah, putting it 

1220
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,040
all down needs to be condensed. 
The, you know, who cares about 

1221
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:55,040
what that happened? 
You know, there's, there's 

1222
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,000
important things that happened 
or whatever. 

1223
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,440
And I don't know how to edit 
that kind of stuff. 

1224
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,800
But yes, I'm, I'm definitely 
interested in, in publishing. 

1225
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:04,360
All my friends are interested 
that I published, but I just 

1226
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,560
don't really, I don't really 
know how after I wrote it. 

1227
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,800
So we'll see about that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1228
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,760
Wow. 
I am, I am, I'm, I'm amazed. 

1229
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,880
I, I, I feel like I could have 
asked you 1000 more questions. 

1230
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,240
If you, if you retold that story
again and you, you told it in 

1231
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:25,040
such great detail. 
I feel like you've told it quite

1232
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,120
a few times. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1233
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,640
But it's, it's in my memory 
banks, thank God still. 

1234
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,800
And yeah, the other thing I, I, 
I just, I remember is, you know,

1235
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,760
people to ask me about the 
spirituality or whatever. 

1236
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,960
How do you feel about God? 
You know, afterwards and things 

1237
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:39,880
like that and. 
That was on my list of questions

1238
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,760
to ask you. 
For sure, yeah and I had not I 

1239
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,120
was raised in in the church, but
I've been away from it and I, I,

1240
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,960
I just yeah, organized religion 
wasn't wasn't it for me. 

1241
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,960
So but I've always had it, you 
know, relationship, spiritual 

1242
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,200
and and knowing that God or 
higher powers up there. 

1243
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,320
But when I got out of there, 
like I said, I mostly talked, 

1244
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,640
you know people thought, Oh my 
God, didn't you, you know, thank

1245
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,680
God after you came out and all 
this and I said, well, you know 

1246
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,360
I in a way I did, but I mostly 
talked to my brother who had 

1247
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:16,560
passed away, who I feel was an 
Angel as I was swimming, you 

1248
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,960
know how for guidance and things
like that. 

1249
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,160
But when I did get out, I 
noticed after I was out of the 

1250
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,680
hospital, after I kind of got my
head back together, that 

1251
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:30,120
everything looked greener, 
brighter. 

1252
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,680
And I, and I said I, the big 
thing that I noticed was that 

1253
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,640
when I was around little 
children, even babies, the way 

1254
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,040
they would look at me and it was
like, oh, he gives me tingles 

1255
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,359
today. 
You know, back then that I felt 

1256
01:08:44,359 --> 01:08:48,920
like there was just something, 
you know, something because they

1257
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,160
would look at me with such love 
and stuff and I didn't even know

1258
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,680
him. 
So there's some kind of a aura 

1259
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,160
or, you know, something that 
came through with that. 

1260
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:02,160
But yeah, wow, that was pretty 
cool. 

1261
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,000
Wow.
