So I reiterate here, the bill is dead.
The story of this great city is about the years before this
night. We are free.
Hey everyone this is Ho Ho Hong Kong with me Vivek, Mabu Bunny
and my Co host who is. Ahmed Magdi.
It's that time of the year, everyone.
You can't deny the them. The word December has just
popped into your calendar, into your phone and into your
vocabulary. Oh yeah.
And if you hadn't already noticed that and you're like,
you live under a rock or in denial.
Just walk into any shopping mall and you're like, Oh my God, we
we were back and again. I think the the the decorations
have been up since I think early November.
Yeah, yeah, mid November or something.
Yeah. I believe like once a Halloween
dies out, yeah. And they're like, all right,
it's own people and end of season, yeah.
You need something. You need some reason for me to
come to shopping malls and be like, oh, we better be there.
Yeah. Yeah.
So Christmas is always that year where everyone feels the need to
first of all, wrap up. And I'm one to admit that I do
that every year. So if I.
Wrap up? You mean like wrap up their
gifts? Wrap up their gifts, wrap up
their year or wrap up their their dreams or like.
Or their relationships. Relationships, you know, or like
the. Last Christmas.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, this is our last.
You have that. And usually like for me, it's
always the end of year where December is the month where like
if the whole year I was like, I don't want to get that.
Maybe I want to get that, you know, do I need that?
If by December I'm still thinking about that, I'm getting
that right, Right. It's like a very good litmus
test for me to be like I I think I want that.
Yeah, of course that's me now. I figured out my own system.
So when I want something in January, I'm like, don't worry
man, just. Wait until the end of the year.
Remind myself in in November, Yeah.
And when I do remind myself, because I don't think of it from
Feb until, let's say October, when I think of it in November,
like, oh, Oh yeah, I want that. And when December comes, like I
still want it. So I've basically hacked my own
system to convince myself that I still wanted it when I actually
did not. I reminded myself in November
that I wanted it. In January, you actually put a
physical reminder on your calendar to like, remember the.
Thing so there are a few things I do OK, first of all, every
other Black Friday deal and everything that is in my
calendar because I'm like I know I'm going to want some software
upgrade this and that or. Shout out to our friends at
staking. They did a pretty cool Black
Friday. Yeah, yeah.
It's like everything on the website was like 70.
Percent off. It was wild.
Yeah, I had I. Had like a pretty big shipment
of meat. 19. Times.
Yeah. 19 times, yeah, basically, I have my own container of meat.
There you go. But no, I made a pretty big
order and we use the Patreon code as well, which is another
$100 off. I think it's for the listeners,
but hey, hey, it's also. You do listen to yourself.
Exactly. I do listen to myself, so I
listen to my own yeah, recording.
So yes. You listen to the voice in your
head as well, so that does count.
For sure. I don't listen to the voice.
There is voice on my head. I usually ignore it.
And the voice of my head said don't buy that much meat.
Yeah and I completely ignore that.
Exactly. Like they said, you know you
should be your yourself. Don't let the voice control you.
You're your controller of your voice, right?
You're like, I will buy that meat, bitch.
Exactly. Yeah.
Your conscience is like, I'm on your side, man.
Yeah. What are you doing to me?
Yeah, so pretty cool yeah they these guys are taking are also
they are about to open another location in one Chai at Litong
Ave. your. Favorite Your favorite doing is
it? Oh man, that's already there.
This week when this episode comes out, their block party is
happening on the 6th of December, the day after our live
recording, they have a block party happening, which is
basically the official opening. And I was speaking to Johnny and
he kindly sent me an invitation. So yeah, yeah, I think it's it's
quite open, so everyone can just go and check out just.
Say you're Muhammad. Yes, exactly.
Wait, what? And like, I'm sure Johnny's not
at the counter with the registration.
I think he would because he's kind of like the face now
because he's doing his own. And yeah, it was a really cool.
I don't know if you saw it, he was promoting his happy hour and
he's basically serving wine or beer to the customers, spill it
in their in his face. And for a whole minute it's just
different people, just. Throwing the drinks in his face,
that's hilarious. That's so smart.
People are like, I didn't
support this guy. Exactly.
He has to make another ad. Yeah.
So I think, I feel like he would probably be there.
Yeah. But yeah, yeah, fair.
Enough. He'll probably be at the
entrance like, you know, the typical mascot.
Yes, yes, exactly. He is now the mascot.
Yeah, or the irony would be like they have a full one, one to one
ratio foam board cut out of him at the entrance saying, hey
guys, yeah. And if if they have the budget,
it's like a foam board cut out where you can just throw.
Drinks. Yeah, yeah.
There's like a hole in his mouth.
Yeah. You have to throw, like, meat
through the mouth. Yes.
Like, feed me. That would be really crazy,
right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course. You have to buy the meat first,
then throw back into his mouth, put back into the hole.
Yeah, but then you can buy the meat with the Patreon code,
which you can't have unless you're on the Patreon.
Exactly. It's actually code for $100 off
forever. It's doesn't, it doesn't expire.
Yeah, exactly so and it doesn't have a minimum.
So you can actually buy something for $200.00 and just
get $100 off. Yeah, right there you have 50%
discount straight up. Exactly.
And if you listen to this on a Monday, this is Cyber Monday for
everybody up here and we are doing Cyber Monday deals.
That is right. We're giving you a discount of.
Zero. Hell yeah.
Percent Cyber Monday. Look at the word Cyber Monday.
Don't look at the discount Cyber Monday.
You know it's a deal. You got to do it.
That's why you go to patreon.com/hohopod and let me
tell you this, it normally cost you 20 bucks a month.
No, it cost you 5 bucks. A month normally cost you 20
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yeah for 5 bucks Cyber Monday deal.
Oh my God, Cyber Monday deal. That's right yeah now, however,
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This is the time. So stop everything around
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No code required. We pre type that code for you.
Yes, we're giving it to you. Exactly.
And this is the power of selling something where you're so
confused, you're like, but it doesn't sound as a discount.
Just sign up quickly. It's Cyber Monday.
Yeah, it expires. Yeah, Oh my God, I must be
missing. It must be me who's not
understanding the discount, because clearly there must be a
discount. It's Cyber Monday.
There are other people who are doing it, so that means you're
missing out. It's.
FOMO, it's one of the FOMO things.
And also it's one of those like maybe I'm not getting it but but
let me get it. Stupid.
Yeah, Yeah. Let me get it first.
Yes, actually if you get it also this week you can come into the
the live recording for free. Yeah, 5th of December, 2 months
or episode, we're recording at the aftermath of William Street
and we. Already have a bunch of sign
ups. It's going to be a great time.
Yeah. So yeah, come say hi, you know,
say Congrats, give us high fives and all of that.
Yeah, it's all because of Cyber Monday.
You know what? Yeah, we're going to extend this
to Cyber Tuesday and Wednesday, and he was screwed Thursday.
Cyber yeah, cyber on the on the door tickets.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, all the way there until
the cyber deal ends on Thursday around 10:00 PM-ish, correct,
Where the episode stays the same, but you no longer come to
the live recording because technically it's already gone.
Yes, exactly. So again, for those of you who
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no tomorrow. Live we Live Today like there's
no tomorrow, go to patreon.com/hoopod Carpe Diem.
You know, live it like it's like tomorrow.
Never. Existed Eva La Vida loca?
Yeah, all that shit. You know they put it all
together and do. It so people say.
Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
We have a friend slash Patreon member flying in all the way
from from Shanghai. Yeah, for the live recording.
Shout out to our buddy Kareem, who's Yeah, coming, coming for
this, especially for this and for.
So if someone is coming from Shanghai, Yeah.
And you live in fucking Kowloon? Kowloon.
Yeah. What is your excuse?
Exactly. Yes.
I mean, you might be saying, but it's hard to come from the dark
side. Someone's coming from literally
the black side. OK, to be honest about that,
yes, I should say the smog side. Well he actually also has an
Egyptian passport which means every time he comes through he
gets interrogated for like 4 hours.
At the airport. And he still does it.
Yeah, so. So what?
He was interrogating you yourself, your conscience.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're conscious. Yeah.
Nothing man so we'll see you all after you subscribe to Patreon
yes Patreon on the compositional pod and we'll see you on
Thursday at the 200th episode over there hell yeah now
Speaking of this though you know there's a thing in life that
once you it's always the first 5 minutes that's tough right the
first few steps of the the mile desk it's.
Always starting a thing, like every time I make even plans.
Yeah. And I'm like, why did I agree to
this, right? Then it comes around and I'm
like, I don't want, I don't want to.
I just don't want to even leave the couch.
And then once you leave the house and you like do the thing,
you're like, oh, this is. Great, this is great.
I could do this. I should do this more.
Exactly. Forget that tomorrow you're like
shit, what am I? Doing never want to do it like
when it's like when I'm in the house because the house is so
comfortable and yeah, yeah. And, you know, chill and quiet.
And logically speaking, you will come back to the house anyway.
Yeah. So you're really just working in
circles. Yes.
Let's be honest. I mean, what are you, a horse
racer? Come on.
You know, my life is much more than going in circles.
OK. Yeah, I'm awake.
But then you feel like, you know, you you work hard enough
that you're like, you make your house comfortable.
Yeah. And then you just don't want to
leave it. You leave.
Yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
Like, why? Why am I leaving?
Yeah. Like, I'm also paying rent.
I'm losing money. Yeah.
By not being in the house. Right.
To spend money outside. And let's be very clear, when
you do go outside, you might say, yeah, but you gotta go eat
and everything. Yeah, this is the thing.
When you go outside to eat, you're technically that that
price you pay in that meal. Yeah.
It's not just the cooking, It's the renting of that space you're
sitting on to eat that meal. Yes.
And to unite, you're paying double rent.
Yes. You're paying the rent of the
restaurant and you're paying the rent of the home.
Exactly. Which tell which This is why I
want to introduce this new concept of Airbnb me OK where
you can Airbnb yourself like you tell your friend hey I'm going
to go out you want to stay in my place for like let's say from
8:00 PM to like say 9:30 PM and they pay you maybe the 20 bucks
yes you get it like that way we keep the money within the circle
I agree yeah right over there so again for everyone of you who is
running out of it's. A Hong Kong idea?
It's a Hong Kong idea, right? Squeeze out every, everything
you can. And for those of you who are
like struggling with, let's say Christmas gifts for people you
don't love that much, yes, Airbnb me.
That's the best thing. Give them a card to say, hey,
you, This entails you 1 1/2 hours for my whole timeshare of
my home when I'm not there and put an asterisk there and then
don't put the fine print. And then when they ask you where
the fine print, you're like, I'll let you know when it's
there. Yes, you know I'll.
Meet you at fine print. Yeah, I'll be at fine print.
Yeah, exactly. It's one of those things where
like, is this a. Is this a puzzle?
You're like, sure, sure it is. Merry Christmas.
Speaking of Merry Christmas though, like this is the time of
the year that everybody starts competing both of all their home
and decorations and also the mall decorations.
And the car decorations. And the car decorations, you
always have the handlers. Every now and then, that one
person will be Rudolph the Red Nose with my car, right?
It's like, yeah. You're like so special.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
Look at me. I have.
I have a brown car up with a Red Nose.
They'll be. They'll get it.
This guy gets it, you know?
Yeah. So you're going to have a bunch
of those as well, now, do you, do you have the habit of, let's
say, going to Christmas exploration?
Do you do that every year? Not.
Really. Not really.
Because. Yeah, because I grew up up where
Christmas is on the 7th of January.
It's the Eastern Christmas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Christians in Egypt, they celebrate Christmas and it's
like the same as the Russians. So this is reinforcing the whole
color people time. Yes, exactly our Christmas 2
weeks. Late, Correct.
Yeah. What we can do.
Uncle never shows up on time. Yes, we're going to say 25th,
but we know it's going to really only happen on Saturday.
Exactly. Oh my God.
We literally died it to ourselves.
Exactly. Yeah.
But over here, I'll tell you
this, though, I've never had the habit.
Christmas never been a big thing as in, like, oh, we have to come
together as a family. Yeah.
But sure, the gifts when I was young, I loved it.
Yeah. And I did get excited every now
and then when I open the room, I lose the gifts there until, of
course, your parents, like, forget to wake up early and
break your heart, you know, like, oh, my God, because Santa
never exists. I like.
Yeah, it never existed, right. However, the shopping malls in
Hong Kong now, luckily for us were like here in central area,
you get the little, I would say classier shopping malls where
they it's not like they have the budget, but they know their
clientele may not appreciate them using, let's say pre done
characters, let's say minions Christmas.
They're like really minions? We're doing this, you know, we
need something a bit more unique.
So every year I know that landmark, they always have some
cool crazy over the top Christmasy thing.
Either they have like a, let's say a floating roller coaster or
like clouds in the sky. Some, you know, like, whoa, this
is this is legit art, right? This year they doing ribbons,
huh? Yeah, exactly.
And I was like, wait, what happened?
What happened? Ribbons, you know, and like I
remember seeing. Running out of budget?
Yeah. Out of budget or are you trying
to be more practical? What's happening over here?
Yeah. And I saw it, and I was like, so
let me guess, people buy stuff and you tell them you can wrap
your gifts? Yeah, at this.
Movie. Yeah, you're showing me the big
ribbons thing. And yeah, in the middle of
Landmark. Yeah, and that.
Is yeah, that that seems like a big downgrade from what they
usually do. Yeah, normally I'm like, oh, do
you gotta go check a landmark, man, if you're gonna see
anything, go see landmark. This year.
I saw it. I'm like, wait, are they selling
ribbons? Yeah, What's going on over here?
So I don't know like that. Do you do you have any theories?
OK, so my theory is this, someone got promoted and they
happen to be millennial and they're like this year it's
about 3 letters ESG. We want to be sustainable.
We want to be, you know, proper. We want to help the world.
We're going to do. This logical OR.
Yeah, yeah, all that kind of stuff.
And, and the whole team's like, huh.
But we're landmark. We don't give a shit about the.
Environment. Exactly.
We're the epitome of capitalism. Yeah, we're literally the rich
of the rich. So yeah.
Why do you care about what if the sea level rises?
We live on the peak, The sea level has to rise so much.
Yeah, that even our maids are dead.
And by the time we're like, what's the point of living here?
Yeah, exactly right. And then so the whole team's
like, OK, And then the the person who got promoted
obviously is the son of the ex leader or whatever, right?
Yes. It's like, well, his name is
Mark. Mark.
Yeah. Mark is like, look, let me tell
you when I was in America, alright?
OK. That's how the tape, they would
do it over there. You Hong Kongers don't
understand how this is done. Like Mark, you're Chinese.
Yes. Exactly.
I didn't sound like you're from Alabama.
Yeah, but he's like in complete denial, of course, you know, one
of those kids who went overseas at night.
I've embraced this culture, right?
Comes ABC. Yeah, comes back, just puts
foundation on his face. Just be a bit more white, right?
All right, guys, let me. Tell you no kids like this,
Yeah. Right, we have that and then
like and has the terrible Cantonese accent.
They all right. So, you know, like, like in Hong
Kong, you like to go like, you know, Ho Ho May.
Yeah. You know, you all say Ho Ho May
and they're like, you know, this is a disgrace that you're
Chinese and you. Yeah.
And then finally he's like, give me some some ideas where it's
sustainable and everyone's just like, this is so stupid.
Yeah, what are we, fucking Twin Moon?
What the fuck is? This.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Our landmark. We're supposed to be over the
top. Yeah.
And they're like you, Mark. He's like, he's like, Yeah.
And then they're like, Mark, you.
What's the name of our shopping mall?
Yeah, it's Landmark. Yeah.
And they're like, yes, I know, I know.
And he's like, is he like my name's Mark and I've landed in
the Mark. We're not.
We're not doing this. Yeah.
We're not doing this again, exactly.
We know. Yeah.
Yeah, You know what? What does landmark mean, Mark?
It means a point that people look at and go like, that's the
plan place. Like you see that, You see how
that comes together. And we want to have a a
decoration. Yeah.
Where people think it's the place they want to be because
we're quote, UN quote, landmark. Yeah.
Like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Check it out.
I'm called Mark Two. Oh, my God.
Mark. Oh my God, I hate you.
Please. All right, that's enough.
Every year we have the same fucking discussion with.
Mark. Yeah, Just send them back.
Yeah. And so this year, probably what
must have happened, they came up with 20 different great ideas.
Yeah. And Mark came out with one.
And Mark came up with the ribbon idea.
Yeah. And he said, all right, we're
A-Team. We're going to let everyone
speak. Now.
Whoever holds the stick gets to talk.
They're like, this is not fucking therapy, Mark.
And also only you have the stick.
Yeah, yeah. And he's like.
Exactly. Yeah, I have the stick.
So therefore, let me tell you my idea.
And he's like, I'm going to do rib on.
They're like, wait, ribbon or rib on.
He's like no rib on. Like, you know, ribs.
They're like what the fuck? Is he on about?
Yeah, yeah. And finally he approves Rib on
thinking we're going to have the Christmas steakhouse theme.
Yeah. And then the team's like.
Sounds good. Yeah, right.
And the team was like, we're not doing that, dude.
Yeah, we're going to do ribbon. Yeah.
Louis Vuitton's going to come and slap us.
Actually, now it's going to be we're getting out of here.
Yeah, just dude, what the how do you, what are we going to do?
Rib on? What do you want to do?
Like, hey, hey, hey, Ribbon. Yeah, they're like, that's true.
Mark is so stupid he would not know.
He did not say ribbon. He'll still think it's his
ribbon. Yeah, 'cause Emperor's new
clothes to tell him his ribbon. That idea.
Is great. I was like, yeah, yeah, great.
He's like, yeah, He's like, is that my idea?
Like it's your idea, Mark. Remember you said yeah, Mark?
He's like, yeah, yeah. Have a great idea.
He's like, OK, who's got a good idea?
Who's gonna mark is a good idea. Mark has got a good idea.
Yeah. And then I bet you that's what
finally happened. And then?
And then, yeah, now we ended up with this abomination.
Yeah, exactly. So we don't even know what's
inside. Yeah, man, I bet you anything
we're going to go there and just, like, let Johnny debunked
us with the state king. Yeah, Landmark.
Come and contact him. Yeah, exactly.
I don't know how. Come on, come in here.
Yeah, what the fuck? Maybe it's like one of the
coolest things ever. Maybe exactly.
It might be for all you know. It might become like a new
landmark like of the world people that fly and just see the
sure thing yeah we are shitting on it but hey, I tell you what
Hong Kong line if you if you don't like this yeah take us on
a on the tour guide yes show us around yeah take us around you
know and show us how great landmark is you know give us a
budget of I don't know like $50,000 sure we go shop there we
experience the ribbon Yeah and then we'll.
Hire our own videographer as well to be like hey look at us
shopping. Yeah, we'll do that.
If you need that, we'll do it. If you need someone who can
influence let's say 12 people, call us.
I will completely forget about that documentary I just watched
and actually plugged on the podcast group as well.
Yeah. It's called Buy More, The
Shopping Conspiracy. It's on Netflix and it goes
exactly against everything we're saying we would do.
But it's. Yeah.
Don't believe everything watching Netflix, man.
That is true, yeah. I mean, it's still Netflix.
It's still you know, but I think what I liked about it, it's not
really talking about like, you know, it's not anti capitalism
propaganda. It's just particularly talking
about people buying stuff like over the top.
How easy is it to buy things? Oh my God, And that's how we're
not OK. That's not that.
It's also not really talking just about sustainability as in
like a problem, like obvious problem, but just the lifestyle,
just the lifestyle of like impulsive.
Well, it's also like the whole point is spoiler saying you
don't need that much stuff. We are just convincing you that
you do like when H&M put puts like a new season of whatever
clothes and stuff, they're just like pause and think like you
don't need that features in a different colour.
But the word convincing is like, Oh no, no, you need this because
this is a new season. Just apply that to everything.
And they're basically they're just saying.
And also the caliber of the people they're interviewing is
just insane. So it's basically the ex CEO of
June Leaver, who is basically saying that they sell stuff to
half the planet. Literally.
Yeah. Over 3 billion people use
Unilever product. Yeah.
Which is like everything ever, like from Pepsi to, you know,
Yeah, every like toothpaste and cleaning products and whatnot.
Oh my God. And then they have someone very
high up in the Adidas company who they're all obviously like
ex employees. And then they have Amazon lady
who's one of the main people. And then they have an Apple
person and someone else from a bigger company.
And they all those are the main characters.
And they're all saying the same thing because like we left
because we can't live with that. Like we can't keep doing this
knowing how much damage it's doing.
Yes, exactly. But.
Would you admit that I believe everyone pretty much knows this,
but everyone doesn't want to accept it?
Like, in many ways I would know. Like, a simple dinner with the
family is all I need. But then when I see that Joker
figure, I'm like, gosh, shit, yeah, I would be.
A simple dinner with the family with that Joker figure on the
side would be even better, right?
And then you see this other thing, like simple dinner with
the Joker figure on the side, like a bottle of wine would be
even even better. I think it's one of those things
where, yes, having that item will seem like it's going to
make things better, but it's one of those never ending things
where like, yeah, but you'll never have enough.
Exactly these items. Yeah, right.
And it's like a it's a fine and your happiness will can.
It was infinite. Yeah, one of the one of the main
points they made was like one of them was saying that once once
you suggest something that cuts the company profits from, you're
already making $50 billion a year.
And someone in the company goes, hey, and someone did say that
someone goes like, hey, how about we like be a bit more
conscious of like what we're doing and we're still going to
make $25 billion a year. Yeah.
And everyone's like, so you're cutting the company profit in
half. Get the fuck out of here.
You're right. Yeah, at the end of this, it's a
number thing. It's a numbers thing.
And there is no, there is no ceiling.
Yeah. And it's like if we are able to
make 50, we're gonna make 50. And from 50, if we're able to
make 100, we'll make a hundred. Yeah, whatever.
And it doesn't matter what the cost is.
Yeah, that's the problem is like someone's like, no, no, everyone
can still make a lot of money. Yeah.
And we can be a little bit more
conscious about, you know, leaving the plan for our kids,
blah, blah. And they're like, Nah, Nah,
that's not how this. Works, bro, I totally get it,
man. Yeah, 'cause it's like, and it's
one of those things like no, no, no, no, no, I I agree with the
whole planet thing, but let them cut their profit.
Exactly. Yeah, we're not gonna do it.
And it was like, let them do it, right?
Yeah. Oh, man, this is that's
absolutely true. But that's also the other
pressure of like, So I know I'm talking like not talking about.
I was reading about something about the companies, they also
have the pressure unless the shareholders and they expect the
profit gains and everything. And it's one of those things
like if we don't start, our profits don't increase,
shareholders leave, now we're getting in trouble this and
that. So like for that reason, the
system is designed for us to have to keep pushing forward.
Now on in the beginning, it was very good because you need to
have that motivation to push forward.
But it comes to a point where you're right.
Instead of diminishing module returns where like at some point
like, there's no point of pushing this much for that small
return. You might as well do something
completely new. Or well, yeah, the the way they
designed the documentary as well, it's really cool because
they're using AI. So the narration is basically is
a robot rating the whole thing. And it's basically kind of like
countering the narrative of the documentary.
Yeah. So the robot is like kind of
evil robot is like telling you like how they are doing it
versus the people that are talking.
Yeah. Which is pretty cool.
But also a lot of the visuals are basically just like, you
know, AI generated mountains of trash.
So that's, again, it's just giving you that visual
constantly. Yeah.
Because that's exactly what you're saying is like at some
point that it's going to be like the return is not worth it
because you're seeing trash everywhere.
Obviously we're living in like one of the most advanced cities
in the world. So we're not seeing it.
But like, they're like scenes from like Ghana.
I want to just like, so they dump all of these like unused
garments and on their beaches. Yeah, Yeah, exactly.
And then they have like markets where people say buy stuff or
whatever. It's like impossible to keep up
with because all this like, like Western word trash basically is
landing on this shore. And it's just like.
That I believe, like I think it's, again, it's one of those
things that there's no spotlight being shown on that, so we don't
think it exists. Exactly.
And I think. Imagine if Llama is just getting
all of Hong Kong's trash. Well, in exact technically
they're only getting that category of people, not not
actual. Don't they have?
They don't. This is llama where they have
the the two the the the wasted burning.
Thing, I think so. Well, they call the power
station, but I don't know what's actually there.
I'm not sure yet. They're probably burning, yeah.
Actually, I'm sure, yeah. Yeah, but imagine, yeah, if
Llama is just getting all of Hong Kong's garbage and you're
like, all right, well, as long as I don't go there.
Yeah, then I'm good. I'm good.
Yeah, I know. Like in China, everyone in Llama
is like, growing, like, you know, a third year or whatever.
Yeah. And you're like, all right,
well, we will suck. No, I agree.
I think, I think that's what happens is that again, it's one
of those ignorance is bliss kind of things.
And the more you see, the more you go like, Oh my God.
I mean, I'll give you an example.
The, I hosted the Cambodian Children's Fund gala dinner, and
that was a really prime example. Like Scott Neeson used to be,
like, the head of 20th Century Fox.
Yeah, Right. And he sold everything off.
And I met the guy. I met him twice as well.
Yeah. And he was telling the story.
I was like, this is insane. Yeah.
But he was just saying he's like, yeah, 'cause when I went
there and I was like, what the fuck?
Yeah. And his story, he told me, he
was telling everyone, I should say he was like, but I have this
job, you know, how this life, can I get it?
Give up all that for this? And he was like in Cambodia and
these little girls were just saying, we just want to go to
school cuz they realized that education is the way out, right?
And he got a call from one of his clients, an actor or
whatever, who's complaining about how his private jet did
not have certain things, right. And then he said, I'm misquoting
this. He was like, the client was
like, Scott, like, what did I do to deserve this?
You know what I mean? And this guy's like, what the
fuck? You're a private jet wine.
Like the wine is not the right year.
Yeah. Yeah, you know, and these girls
are like, we just want education.
He's like, yeah, I think I know what I used to do.
Yeah. And he literally sold
everything. I was like, oh, my God.
And I'll be honest with you, when I host their dinners and
you meet the kids who now are listening to university and you
hear the story, I'm like, dude, this is what it's all about,
man. Yes.
It's just, it's insane. Yeah.
And the irony, though, is that that dinner is is hosted in like
a five star hotel, of course. I mean.
Well, that's the thing. The irony is that that that show
is on Netflix, produced by Netflix, Yeah, where it's like,
you know, one of the biggest corporations in the world as
well. Exactly.
But I I think that's maybe what's good about is like, it's
not really like, oh, capitalism is bad kind of thing.
It's focused on a particular issue, which is a very small,
like, very like small, like 1 defined topic, which is consumer
products, not necessarily everything else.
Yeah. And how unnecessary, like
everyone is saying at the end, again, like you should watch it
even if it's clear what it's about.
Like everyone at the end, like basically they're saying like,
you know, what should we do? And the the lady just said like
just fucking stop. Yeah, it's, that's it.
There is no like, you know, go protest just like just stop.
That's. Actually.
You most people who are watching Netflix, who can afford Netflix
probably have enough things already.
Already. You don't need that new dress.
You don't need that. The Adidas guys talking about
the shoes because they're made of plastic.
Yeah. They're like, you just live
forever. Like you don't understand how
it's impossible to get rid of it.
And then, you know, it goes in the ocean and it's like we are
breaks up into like millions particles.
It goes into the fish. Now you're eating the fish that
it's like, it's just a crazy cycle.
And he's like, yeah, just just, you know, don't buy new shoes.
You don't need new shoes. And actually maybe I'm
passionate about it because it's already aligned with something
I, I believe in, particularly when it comes to new clothes.
And I'm just like, a lot of the times it's like it's actually,
it's not net. Like, yeah, So what, people see
you in the same T-shirt, you know, it's like, it doesn't
actually, it doesn't matter much.
I mean, hence why I think both of us going to agree with this
that when people come watch us perform on stage and I can
already see this now look at the photos of me.
It's always that blue shirt. Yeah.
And that same jeans and everything.
Yeah. Yeah.
Mostly because I'll be very honest with you.
It's part of me going like, I don't can't be bothered to think
of what to wear. Sure.
And part of it, you're right. I'm also very pro.
Like, why do I have to have like 10 different outfits just
because like, oh, I don't want to do the same thing.
Like who gives a shit? It doesn't matter and if you are
judging people based on like oh he only has like 3 pairs of
jeans, I don't want to, I don't. Yeah, you're not.
My you're not Why people. Yeah, exactly.
Doesn't matter. Like, I don't care.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think ultimately this,
though, is that it's one of those things where you get a lot
of pressure, for example, let's say at weddings, right?
And the classic tradition before, let's say Chinese
weddings, like the bride would change outfits throughout the
whole night. Yeah, that kind of shit.
And like, on one hand I'm like, yes, I get this special day.
All that stuff is very important, but it comes down to
the whole, is that what you want?
Right. Yes.
And I think what people in general, and I'm sure this is
the one benefit that comedians have because we've just been
exiled anyway. Yes.
Where you're like, yeah, but I kind of want people to approve
of what I'm doing. Yeah.
And you don't want to admit it. You're like, no, no, I'm my old
man. It's like, no, not really.
You still want a little approval.
OK, let's be honest. And I'm not saying that I don't
want approval. There is.
But like certain things, like obviously our approval will be
from people laughing and shit like that.
But other people are like, oh, I don't need them to laugh with
me. I need them to prove that I look
good. I look classy.
He's like, OK, and you're right. It's the best way to protest
against this or do something is to literally not do it.
Yes, and stop contributing to it, right?
Yes, which is why I want to just tell everybody this Christmas
instead of buying products, just, you know, get software,
you know? Yeah, go, go literally all
virtual. Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do that, you know, like whatever
you can get. Or my experiences.
Yeah. That's something I also believe
in. It happens to be also my work.
Yeah. But like, by experiences, like
go, it doesn't don't, don't have to watch comedy.
Go watch theatre. Yeah.
You know, watch, you know, find, go to clock and flap, like all
the stuff like that. Yeah.
You know, it's just like buying
experience. Yeah.
You know, and that scientific studies have proven, scientific
studies have proven that basically it's the experience
that gives it long lasted happiness versus the actual
product. Yes, like, like a clock and flap
ticket or something equivalent. I know it just finished, but
like, you know, whatever is $1000, it can be like pretty
much the same amount as a pair of shoes.
Yeah, Yeah. And so you can like choose to be
like, oh, that pair of shoes is going to make me happy every
day. And you will be wrong.
Yeah. Because you, it will make you
happy for a week because you're like, oh, people are noticing
when and you get used to it. It's probably somewhere, you
know, in your shoe shelf, your IKEA shoe shelf.
Now you're not wearing them anymore.
And, you know, you can't be bothered.
No one's sitting there forever. You give them to your helper,
they're going to end up. It's just like a bad cycle.
Yeah. Versus something that you can
talk about, whether it's a comedy show or a live show.
Yeah, absolutely. That's the thing, though, is
that on paper though, you're like, yeah, but the experience
happens and you forget it. And this is what I found
overtime, right in life, a lot of things on paper, it's a
certain way, but in reality it's not.
For example, every single year, and I always do this my favorite
bit to do on the 1st of January, 2nd year, whatever I there's a
first show or the first year, I'm always bitching about how we
still go out and do this stupid countdown.
Yes, where I'm like, first of all, that was highly
unnecessary, logically stupid. Like let's go into a crowd of
strangers and just count from 12:50 and stay there for the
next hour. Yeah, right.
I mean, like nothing part of that, not nothing on that on
paper makes sense, yes, But when you do it like this is pretty
fucking cool, right? Right.
And I think the same thing is that on paper you're like, no,
if I buy this thing and I have it here, I'll be happy.
But then and the experience is like, you just do it and that's
it. But that's what I mean.
Like the more things that work on paper usually don't really
work in real life. Correct.
And I think that's what the same with the products as well.
Like you said, you, you might get an item that is let's say a
sustainable material, but you forget to ship it here is not
really that sustainable. The boxes and everything, the
plastic. And let's be honest, if you
really want to see unsustainable stuff every morning, just stand
outside, let's say, a bunch of restaurants and watch them push
all, like, cartoons of drinks and everything with the plastic
wrapping. Go outside of Welcome, dude.
Yeah. And just watch the number of
plastic wrapping. Forget that.
Wait for any Tobo delivery. Yeah, the blue plastic bag
wrapping. It's.
Also, like, kind of like, I think I would feel much better
about it once we figure out how to dump on another planet.
Yeah, that would be really good that we, like basically have if
Elon Musk can come with a system with all of his dumb rockets,
can start taking trash. Yeah, from our planet.
Just dump it on another planet because who gives a shit?
It's not literally outside. Yeah.
Just like, oh, even if there is other civilizations, just go let
them deal with it. Yeah, Just go dump.
Not in the space where it can fall on us.
Like, go find it on the planet. Just leave it there.
Trap it in the atmosphere. Yeah.
Because that's the thing. Everything that we've ever made
ever. Yeah, is still on the planet.
That's a crazy thought to have. That's an insane thought to
have. It's like, yes, the planet is
big. It's like, yeah, but it's still
like that one place. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Every plastic wrapper that you're using from the 1700s is
still here somewhere. That's a they don't disappear.
That's the crazy part. And I don't want to sound like a
hippie. It's like, it's not.
It's just like the fact that just being a little bit more.
I'm not saying everyone should live in like mud houses, you
know, It's just like the consciousness of like the extra
thing. A lot of the times you don't
need it. But you know what's funny just
now, when you were saying about like, take everything, dump it
on another planet. Yeah, I think that was what a
lot of the Western world thought.
Africa is another planet. Exactly.
Yeah, that's a sad part they are looking at, like, yeah, exactly.
But I mean, like, that's something like no one's is, is
this is literally Western medicine.
No one's actually looking at the 'cause it's more like the the
cure. Yes, same thing as like, how
about we not have this packaging?
Yeah, and I'm sure like this is what I would say if there's a
way to maybe streamline certain delivery methods and everything
where we don't don't really have to package it this much.
Because maybe again, this is me saying this now, but I'm sure
when the time comes, yeah, no one's gonna do it because maybe
certain type of premium packaging is not allowed.
Yeah. To get my point, Like, yeah,
yeah, because I get the whole wrapping paper, I get the whole,
you know, I got a gift, gift box and everything.
Sure. But let's be honest, when you go
to, let's say, Godiva, buy a gift box, the chocolates are
maybe like 30% of the item. Of course, 30% is just
packaging. What do I?
Need of the presentation. Yeah, you know, but I think it's
because those companies, like the Amazons of the world are
just too big to like they're not going to let like if you start a
company, it's like, OK, I'm doing Amazon, but sustainable
they will. Crush you.
No, no, I'm not saying that, but that's one thing.
What I'm saying is that either the delivery, now you're right,
the delivery thing is not going to happen because they're like,
yeah, we can destroy you. Yeah.
What I'm saying is to not allow such premium level packaging.
Right. Yeah, my point.
I see. I see.
And hopefully people start to appreciate the fact that your
packaging just was a bit flimsy. Yeah.
Or the paper. Because you're buying the
product, not the presentation, Yes.
That's not even this
presentation, but like to be like, oh, I'm glad the paper's
thin. I would be annoyed if it was
thick. Yes.
You know, it's just a waste. Yeah.
It's like, it's like when you get delivered stuff and you see
a whole bunch of let's say it's a it's a small item in a big
box. Yes.
And it's all Styrofoam around. You're like, what the fuck?
Why would you? Do this.
Why? Yeah.
Yeah, we, we wouldn't. We'd be like, I'd appreciate it
if you did not do all this. Yes, yes.
So the same way hopefully like the new generation now this is
what I would say. It's all down.
Coming from two people who don't have kids.
Don't have kids and the best thing is that we can blame the
new generation is for you to change your mind.
We can't change your mind. You know, that's it.
We we've grown up in that era of like, I want the plastics and
everything, right? You are now getting fresh new
mind developing and everything is for you to start looking at
the world. But like, I want minimalism.
Not for us, man I'm sorry. We're out of that.
We can't do it anymore. It's for you.
So the truth is the responsibility down on the new
generation, if they don't do it, it's their problem.
It's not our problem anymore. You know, we, we had our time,
it never happened. Hong Kong is actually featured
in the documentary as well. Really.
Yeah. Oh, shit.
Yeah, they also talk. Someone who's who's based here
talked. I think he had some, some
organization or another dealing with the kind of the waste
problem, of course. And yeah, Hong Kong still has a
waste problem. Yeah, so Hong Kong has an
extremely, insanely waste. Problem.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's just like that.
Yeah, exactly. That's just like I think they
just started applying the ban on the single use.
Oh. Cutlery.
The cutlery, yeah, I'm not sure how that will do in like the cha
cha things. Oh my God, people hate.
It I actually just picked up. Yeah.
Like I just realized now that I picked up lunch the other day
and she offered, I didn't take it because I was going home.
Yeah, but she still offered me the plastic cutlery, so I don't
think that's actually enforced. Yeah, much.
Or maybe there's sometimes like whatever, or maybe they found a
grey area of like, oh, until your stocks went out, then you
have to maybe import that stuff. And I'm sure there's give me
someone like buddy, I have like a billion plastic forks to still
sell. Yes, I'm going to keep
supplying. This shit.
Yes. Yes.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll be honest with you.
That's the other side, OK, which pisses me off.
We're like, OK, we're going to use no, you can't use like non
sustainable cutly, whatever bullshit.
Yeah, and now we have to use these soft kind of spoons that
melt in your food. Yes, yeah, And that's why I was
saying like guys like this one pisses me off is like, but the
practicality and the ability of doing the job doesn't work
anymore. Yeah, I know it's.
I get it now. But like the point is, it
doesn't. Sustain the food.
Yeah, Yeah. How about that?
It doesn't. Sustain my gravy.
Exactly. Yeah.
And I think this is the ultimate thing is that you got the policy
makers, yes, who don't have the guts to go against the people
who really have the impact. And they're like, oh, that's
just make people have to do this in the general life, but forget
the actual the function of it. This this works great on paper,
right? Reverse it like they were saying
that hotels, right? I think hotels you can't provide
one off disposable stuff anymore.
I think so, yeah. Yeah, you.
Have some of that. I mean, in Singapore, I remember
going there, now you don't have the plastic bottles of water.
They give you an empty bottle, but now they've got filters.
Yes, yeah, which is pretty cool. Yeah, I've seen that in a bunch
of hotels. Yeah, you know, and they tell
you. The water dispenser is just
outside the room. Yeah, they just give you a yeah
glass bottle. But that's my point.
Now reverse it. Let's say I am the head of a
insurance company. I'm living on the suite.
You want me to go the fuck out of my suite to fill a bottle?
What are you mad? Yeah, you know, and if I want
everyone, I'm getting everyone and bring me again to the plane
thing. We talked about everything.
I'm like, why is it another small bottle?
Evian. No small bottles.
I'm like, yeah. Do you have a bigger one?
No. Why?
Yeah. You know, so I I'll put it this
way. It comes hence why I want to
defer the responsibilities to the new generation.
Truly being a 47 year old person.
Exactly. You kids now.
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's you're you'll deal with
that. It's it's all you.
You know, you're the one who's going to change the world.
We're just you're cruising it out.
Yeah, I think I was also laying the foundation throughout the
whole thing by saying This is why I'm not getting anyone any
gifts. It's because I believe in
sustainability. And yes, exactly that's why.
This whole friendship is not this.
Whole friendship. It's it's I can sustain the
friendship with you, but not enough to buy you anything.
Products. Yeah, buy your products.
It's because I care about the environment and because you
don't need it. Number one, that and the best
thing I'll let me, let me, I'm going to spin that around to
make it seem like you're such a great person.
Yes, I value our friendship. I would like to sustain this
friendship, but to be able to sustain this, we must exist,
right? And for us to continue existing,
we must take her for the planet. So it's one of those like eat
your marshmallow now or enjoy 2 pieces later.
So either we enjoy this little gift I give you now and die 10
years earlier or we get to be friends for another 10 years.
We don't get the gift now. It's up to you.
You know what? You do you.
Exactly. You do you.
And yeah, this is a good timing while everyone is buying
Christmas presents. Yeah, to just be a little bit
more, I think. Conscious conscience, yeah.
But I'll be honest with you. The tradition that I have every
year of December. Is the opposite of that, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, when you go nuts, that's
when you allow yourself to go nuts.
Oh yeah, yeah, see, that's the problem is that.
Hence why I'm still adamant all that it's up to the new.
Software, right Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just buy more. Yeah, Buy more experiences, buy
more dinners. Like I'm, you know, I have my
spiel with like people thinks being expensive here, but versus
like buying another dumb fucking gadget or whatever.
Yeah. Gadget that you just don't need.
Or like a goofy like candle holder that is expensive from
Zara home. You don't need that.
Yeah. Just go buy the you know what?
Go to the expensive overpriced restaurant and buy $200 hummus.
You get ripped off that way, but at least it's like an experience
of sorts. And then someone would be like,
Oh yeah, he bought me this thing.
And he took me to this place. Yeah.
Because yeah, when you see that candle holder, after a while
you're like, it's just collecting dust.
Yeah, and like, you're gonna have to be at a candle, which
you're gonna start using. Exactly.
The candle's gone. That's wax and that's smoke.
That's again more carbon. What I believe is like where
everything goes in Hong Kong is basically just eventually give
it to your helper, yeah. Yeah, or Salvation Army.
Or Salvation Army, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they said, but it's like it's not a good system.
One of the things that they highlighted as well was the fact
that a lot of the luxury companies literally destroy
their products that are unsold products.
They don't want poor people. Using because they don't want
poor people using it. It's insane.
Yeah, dude, I that's. When that's when you're like,
oh, this is pure evil. Yeah, Abaco be in French, right
then, then they have that thing where?
LV all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, there's no way in hell like.
Yeah, they said actually these straight up said like we don't
want to be the brand associated with like homeless people.
Yeah. So they they would also do the
same thing even with expired like food sometimes.
Yeah. Would you like instead of just
giving it to like Salvation Army type, they just go and like they
tell them to set it on fire or like, you know, destroy it so
people don't dig up the trash because we don't want people to
like. Get sick or whatever, Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, not get sick. To use that to use that, I mean
I've I've heard the ones where they were like for their own
safety because I know like let's say 711, they have to be very
careful where if they just give away the food like that and
someone gets sick, who's responsible?
So there's the legal connotation over there, yes, Which I get, of
course, which again, I would say, and I don't encourage this,
but I would say the only way to do it is that to give the person
is starving who wants that food have to sign an agreement,
right? You know, Yeah, I know.
Legally, that's fucking stupid. Yeah, yeah.
But some of them don't know how to sign.
Yeah, that was that, but number. Two don't give a shit, Yeah.
And #2 is like, at that point, we're gonna, if they were gonna
dig through the trash and pick out the food and eat it, they
would not be able to hold you responsible anyway.
Exactly. But you want to be able to say
like, oh, you can't do shit. This is not trick, right?
You don't want someone who has power to eat that shit.
It's the homeless waiver program.
What a great idea. Exactly.
Yeah. Literally homeless waiver as
they waive your responsibly and wave your HomeAway.
Yes they waived having a home. Yes, right over there.
Yeah, they had already waived the right to have a home.
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Yeah.
You cannot blame us for not having a home.
OK, fine. You got me on that one.
I'll do that. Yeah.
So what do you plan to get with? After after all this talk about
non consuming stuff, now again I want to clarify this as well is
that there are 12 months in the year and out of that there's
only one month where I get splurged.
OK, let's make that very. Clear.
But that's fine. Yeah, I think, yeah.
So one out of 12 is pretty good compared to all the Thai Thai's
we're buying stuff one out of every 12 hours.
Yes. OK, so one thing I definitely am
going to be getting this this month and I do this every year.
My computer stuff is always end of year.
Sure. OK, so I'm going to be building
a computer nice. That is going to be designed
purely to play video few games. Nice.
The problem is this, I've looked at my schedule at all times.
I don't have time to play video games.
Yeah. However the idea of being able
to play video games is what I'm trying to build for.
Yes, that's what I'm building computer for.
The idea that should I for some reason have the ability to have
this time, which I will not have time for, I will be ready for
it. Because when the time does come,
I won't have the time to build a computer.
And that's why I'm like. You want to be able to
theoretically play video games. Yes.
So I'm a theoretical physicist, Yes, exactly.
My life. You get it Where?
I know it can't be done, but I know theoretically it could be
done. If I could do it.
Yes. So, Nobel, give me a call.
Yeah, I'll be happy to take the prize, Sure.
But don't call me while I'm building my computer.
All right, because you'll be busy, Yeah.
And ironically, if I did get the Nobel Prize for theoretical
physics, whatever, yeah, that cut into my potential game
playing time, yes. So the problem is this.
Do I go and collect that prize or not?
Or do I play that video game I win to play?
Yes, sure, you probably choose the game because you have spent
so much time right building the computer.
And that takes me into the world of philosophy, right?
And this is another thing. So philosophically, I to be able
to do both because technically with the Internet nowadays, I
could remote play while I'm traveling to go at my Nobel
Prize. And ironically, when I get
there, while I'm collecting the theoretical physics prize, I'm
on my remote phone playing that video game back at home.
And then people of the philosophy, things like, Oh my
God, you actually saw this philosophy of can you do things
at the same two things at the same time?
And then I get that prize as well.
And because I get that prize now, I wasted more time.
However, I'm so efficient I get the prize at the same time the
Nobel Prize for business efficiency, which doesn't.
Exist doesn't exist yeah, they will they choose it for you
yeah, they'll make I am nominating people I'll probably.
They'll make one be like, shit, this is actually, yeah, this is
genius, This is genius, you know, so again.
So you build a computer that you never use.
And I'll never use it you. Plan to build it from scratch,
yeah. Yeah, I'll be one of the
customer computers. Wow, OK.
The the ironic thing is that I will definitely as much as I
know I don't play much with the computer lights.
I do house lights. I love that yes, but you know
how they have those bullshit LE DS?
I know when the time comes, I'll meet at the store and they're
like, all right, we can put this little light thing up here in
case you have. I'm like.
Yeah, of course. Yeah.
And what will happen is, and this has to my, my, my desktop
computer as well, I will put it in a location where I cannot see
the lights. Yeah, it's under my desk.
I can't see the fucking lights. So there's no point.
No point, but you still fall for it every time.
Yes, because I'll say, what if the day comes when I can see the
light? Yeah, and then I will be like I
should. Have seen, yeah, yes.
So this is a really good way for all the sales people out there.
If you want to get me, I live in the world of potential, OK?
I don't live in world practicality.
Practically, yeah, practically this is fucking pointless
having. Life behind me is how?
How many inches? 77 inches. 77 inches DV that
I've never seen on ever. Yeah, I spent a lot of time in
this house. Yeah.
And I don't think it's even connected to electricity.
It's actually just a blackboard. Exactly.
It must just be a black. You have a very expensive
backdrop for me. Exactly.
Yeah, I can focus on your face. That's what I want to do.
Yeah. Oh, this is absolutely.
This is this is just a perfect demonstration of how you I look
at things. Yeah, you're like, should the
day come that I watch Netflix? Yeah, for 20 minutes in the week
exactly. I want to make sure I have to
see it and and move my head from left to right to see the whole
picture. Yes, that's what that's all
about. Absolutely man.
Yes, we are very. Sustainable.
Absolutely, that's what I mean. Like I live in the world of
potential. Yes, and hence why I'm so well
advanced that I think I deserve. You have all this shit I don't
need. Yes, Correct.
You know, Hence why I encourage everyone to compensate for my
behaviour. Don't buy your shit.
Yeah. Yeah.
So exactly. Yeah, yeah.
Let you? Yeah.
Let you buy dumb shit. Exactly.
So they don't we. Live in the real world where we
need to cut down on stuff, algorithm.
Live in the potential world where we don't need to cut down
on stuff. Yes, right over there.
This is the way people. This is how we all.
This is how the mind of the comedians go.
Yeah, exactly. It's like, yeah, it doesn't even
make sense a lot of times, but it's funny.
It's funny. That's more important.
That's what you're paying us to do.
Speaking of comedy, we, we had such a fun show last night doing
a crowd work show. Yeah, the crowd, which I'm
definitely keen to do again, the Crowddoor show is basically like
it's, you know, we we do a regular material, but to allow
the audience to basically hackle at any point.
But also we we engage them a lot.
So think of it like more of like stand up and improv show like
prompts basically. Yeah, this is a good example.
But that was really fun. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I was
telling Ryan Heinrich, one of the other comedies who popped on
that side as well. And I was like, yeah, I'm just
crowd work was the thing I did before.
Yeah, I enjoyed it was fun, but I've just not done for a long
time. Yes.
And when when you told me about the show last time, I was like,
man, I'm done in so long. I have no idea if I'm if I got
the groove back and everything. But I think it's one of those
things that when you're a comedian that you've done it
before. It's kind of like riding a
bicycle. Yes, yeah, it just comes back,
yeah. Just comes back.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know how to play this game and everything.
And luckily for me, I was on lasso by that time.
The audience kind of understood the whole game.
Yes. Peak REL as a host had to do the
work of, like, trying to explain them up and everything.
And yeah, I think the lineup was good because you had a good
variation of different comedians.
That's why it wasn't the same old, like.
OK, so this is my take on what you said.
No. Yeah, exactly.
Everyone's got their own little thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that is the the key
to good crowd work shows where like everyone's got a unique
take on even if they tell the same audience, it's not the same
fucking shit. All you're together.
Oh, do you do this? Like Oh my God, we asked this 22
comedians. Exactly.
Yeah, One thing I made sure that the comics know is that everyone
should stay in the room. I kind of watch what's
happening. Oh yeah, I had myself.
A lot of, yeah, a lot of us, like, have seen this where you
go into a comedy room and you're like, you know, have not seen
what happened in the show. And then there is something so
obvious in the audience and you think you're the first one to
notice, hey, this guy has a dumb hat.
And I was like, yeah, we talked about this.
Yeah, 3 comics ago exactly for 10 minutes.
Like, why are you talking about the hat again?
It's like, yeah. Oh, yeah, for these, that was my
habit before, is that I would have a little sheet of paper and
write down like this table. This was his name.
Yeah. So like last time I put I wrote
it all down like I like this guy in the front physiotherapist,
this crypto, this is that. So I was like, OK, review and
also boom, go straight. So you're this, you're that
like, yeah, this guy knows everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
It's like, do you really appreciate people being in the
room? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So because that means you're like, you're one of them.
You like you're not just like the comic on stage.
Just showed up and like hey. What's that tell me?
Yes, exactly. Keep.
Me up to date about stuff. You came in like 1 of you, yeah.
Exactly. So definitely keen on doing it
again. If you see us promoting a as a
crowd work show, come to that. Actually this weekend we also
have Jay Jocelyn Chea coming from America performing on the
7th this Saturday and at Base Hall and there will probably be
tickets by the time you listen to this.
Maybe not, but catch the tickets.
Justin is amazing and she has been in the comedy scene
forever. And yeah, if you don't remember
Jocelyn a about a year ago, she will come on and tell the story.
But about a year ago, she made a joke about the she's from
Singapore. She's American, but yeah,
Singaporean. And she made a joke about the
Malaysia Airlines disappeared, and that video went completely
viral. And then Malaysia apparently
asked the Interpool to arrest her.
And yeah, the whole thing was pretty wacky.
So yeah, that's Jocelyn. Very, very funny comedian.
And we have Irene 2, probably one of our biggest bookings so
far as on the 21st of December. That show is like 70% sold.
So get tickets when you can. Irene is a writer on the At
Midnight show. She opens for Taylor Tomlinson,
a bunch of other people. And yeah, that show is flying
off the shelf, so get that as well when you can.
Yeah. Live shows this also.
It's a good Christmas gift again.
Yeah. Yeah.
Buy people the gift of laughter. Yeah, exactly.
Laugh with them as well. And laugh with them.
Yeah, yeah. Seriously, it's like really good
Christmas gift to just be like, hey, yeah, your Christmas gift
this year we're just going to go to a comedy show together and
and enjoy. Yeah.
And on top of that, I'll tell that when you come to a show,
get a drink at Draftland. Oh, yeah.
And the best thing about that? And you won't find this in many
standard bars. The good ones do this.
Their ice is clear ice. Yes.
That means it melts slower, is cleaner, doesn't dilute your
taste of your drink. And also, it's an Instagram
photo. You want to tell your friends,
like, I don't waste time with with dirt.
Yeah. Yeah, Draftland is our bar at
Base Hall, and they're very, very gracious and great drinks,
good prices, just just a general very good night out.
So yeah, come get involved with the live comedy scene.
It's a lot of fun. It's happening and yeah, we'll
see you. Hopefully this Thursday, 5th of
December, 200th episode, there will be a blast and we'll be
celebrating all of that. So come take a photo, say hi,
find us on social media. Where do people find you?
Funny, Vivek, what about you? I am at the other Mohammed and I
will be posting stuff throughout the week leading up to that
200th episode and about our shows and everything fine the
backstage HK as well for the live shows and we will see you
as the next one.