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Ten days from today. 
Welcome to seven days to play 

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your Weekly mobile gaming review
program. 

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I am Sam and I am twice each 
week. 

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We challenged each other to a 
new mobile game and for the last

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seven days we've been playing 
Tides: a fishing game Tides. 

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That's a good name. 
I like leads Tides. 

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As nice as it goes mouthfeel. 
Tides Tides tithe, tell me about

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Tides theis Tides:. 
A fishing game is would you 

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believe it a fishing game? 
I was first. 

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Attracted to this game in the 
app store because it said it was

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a fishing game. 
I love fishing, fishing catch 

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and release is a lot of fun to 
go out to explore the world but 

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this game looked aesthetically 
quite pleasing to me. 

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The colors will quite nice. 
It's really cool. 

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Yeah. 
So you're an avid Fisher, right?

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I like you damn stupid Apple. 
I mean you fish at least once a 

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year. 
Oh yes absolutely yeah that's 

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already more much more than I 
think. 

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I fished like once every five 
years okay okay all right. 

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I'd like to fish more, but, you 
know, it's intense. 

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But like, what is it about 
fishing that you liked ice? 

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Oh, I'm so pleased. 
You've asked this question. 

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Listen, as we did not prep for 
this, just so, you know, but 

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strapped in fishing is a very 
multifaceted Pastime. 

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It can be a sport. 
I think that I like that. 

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I have a lot of friends that are
in the fishing profession and 

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they do. 
They fish and take photos of 

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fishing. 
Competitively for a living which

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is probably wow. 
Yep. 

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I come from A country where 
fishing is one of the most 

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popular things to do for anyone 
of different ages and 

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backgrounds. 
And what have you? 

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It's just a really cool way to 
get together. 

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What I love about fishing is 
that it's, there's, there's so 

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many opportunities to learn. 
So, so we talked a lot about Sam

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enter in our spare time around, 
how you can like get better at 

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something and I think I think 
fishing is a really nice Pastime

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or hobby or sport to do that. 
I'm not a competitive Fisher. 

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I don't fish for big game as 
they call it. 

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I don't They get out into the 
deep sea and do that sort of 

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fishing. 
I prefer smaller, smaller 

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fishing challenges. 
So more thinking more of like 

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Lake fishing for like bass and 
trout or some ocean fishing for 

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smaller fish. 
And when you do that, you reduce

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the budget that you need for 
fishing gear and the complexity.

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So using smaller reels, lighter 
lines, cheaper, lures to 

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poquette. 
So if you lose stuff, it's fine.

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But all that to say there are 
moments that I can remember in 

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the last few years. 
Particularly Upstate New York or

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in Canada by a lake where it's 
just you and your fishing rod as

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we would call it polar caps 
depending on where you're from 

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and it's Junior right. 
Absolute Zen. 

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Yeah I know your staff. 
It's such a peaceful thing to 

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do. 
You know like you can't 

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effectively be on your phone at 
the same time. 

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I might play some music in the 
background and take some lunch 

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down or a cold beverage but I do
think being at peace with myself

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by a dock fishing in a lake is I
can spend I literally lose track

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of time. 
Like I have none, I have been 

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there until the sun goes down 
and my wife has to be like, you 

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need to come home to eat. 
You know, you haven't eaten for 

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eight hours, I like lose track 
of myself and I think it's such 

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a beautiful thing and other 
people can find that in 

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meditation or other pastimes and
hobbies you know, like right 

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building electronic things or 
Woodcraft Woodworking and I love

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all that stuff too. 
But fishing for me is just such 

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a Zen moment and then if you're 
in a place where you can keep 

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the fish and it's of the right 
size and it's The right species.

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You have the right ticket being 
able to cook with it. 

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Being able to take it home and 
like provide food is like, just 

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feels very nourishing. 
I don't know, I've always loved 

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that. 
I grew up by the ocean and lakes

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my whole life. 
So yeah, sorry, long story 

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there, but that's why I love 
fishing and I have never. 

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I'm not sure I've ever really 
played a mobile fishing game 

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before so I gotcha and this is 
why you hate Tides. 

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Efficient game precisely yeah 
it's rubbish no. 

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That's why I stood out to me 
fishing is near and dear to my 

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heart and makes me feel very 
relaxed and in this fast-paced 

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world that we live in and with 
the sort of jobs that you and I 

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have Sam I think it's it's good 
to find something like this. 

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I think you have similar hobbies
that let you sort of zone out 

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and not be as. 
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I can I can pick a handful of 
things that I do, where I just 

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lose absolute track of time and,
you know, you're just with 

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yourself and your thoughts and 
it's awesome. 

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It's a great thing. 
I think more hop. 

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Yeah, that we don't double 
checking the time. 

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Time. 
You know, it, you're not just it

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easily pulling down to refresh 
or Doom scrolling. 

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It's like, I think it's good to 
find that thing that works for 

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you. 
For me, it's fishing for others.

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Something. 
Awesome. 

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That's what and that's what 
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Thank you for asking. 
Yeah, of course. 

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Let's let's get into the game 
taste. 

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Do you have the App Store 
description? 

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I do the Miss apply for this. 
Episode is top-notch Sam. 

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It is. 
Here you go. 

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You ready? 
Here's the App Store description

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for tides: a fishing game. 
Many games include beloved 

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fishing minute. 
Names that let you take a break 

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from your primary objectives and
just relax with Tides comma. 

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We seek to add a fishing 
minigame to whatever part of 

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your day needs, it Tides is a 
small game. 

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Designed to be a meditative 
escape with Serene visuals 

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calming music and simplistic 
gameplay drive your boat across 

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various Expedition, destinations
discovering and collecting a 

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plethora of beautiful fish here.
Mmm, that sounds beautiful. 

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What a good description. 
Even the description is 

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inducing. 
A level of sand with me, as and 

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sleepiness. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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I'm a little sleepy now, using 
words, like calming music and 

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plethora, I'm a very nice Serene
visuals calming music and simply

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speaking please. 
So this game is an idol game. 

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Have you played other idle games
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I don't think so. 
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What would be a good description
of an idol game that became very

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very popular. 
I think Cookie Clicker. 

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Have you played Cookie Clicker? 
No. 

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But that's a fun thing to say 
out loud, right? 

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So Cookie Clicker is probably 
one of the first like idle games

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that got super super popular. 
It was a whale based game. 

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Where first thing you do is just
you click a cookie, right? 

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Click on the cookie and you get 
points, okay? 

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And then the more you clicked on
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got but then all of a sudden you
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like you can now double click 
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Well made you get double the 
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from the cookie and then all of 
a sudden it gave you like these 

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kind of really wild sort of 
upgrades to your clicking 

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abilities. 
Like there was an auto clicker 

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so that you no longer have to 
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click the cookie. 
What give you like these, Comet 

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cookie cooking abilities and it 
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the game got to a point where 
like I think like demons start 

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to appear within the game and 
like for your cookie escalated. 

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Yeah. 
And then like all of a sudden, 

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the your liking this portal of 
hell. 

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And you click your way cookies? 
Yeah, it's absolutely insane. 

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So there's like there's like a 
whole lot of idle games that 

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sort of spawned from this idea 
like starting from like a really

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simple task and then you gain 
like okay hours in order to get 

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it. 
And I think that's where like 

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the charm of idle games also 
became really popularized and 

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this definitely is like one of 
those idle games were like you 

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start something off right? 
And in this case it's fishing 

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but then you do things in the 
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to make money. 
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Tice. 
You want to talk about that a 

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little bit? 
Yeah. 

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So you can from what I can tell 
in the game one of the key the 

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key mechanisms to I guess 
improving your income to some 

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degree or any more coins is to 
fish but oh yeah definitely 

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fishing. 
Sorry at that there's another 

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mechanism there where you can 
you can add friends to your dock

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so you can create like friends 
and they'll fish for you which 

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as a side note I thought that 
was just really Thing that like 

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you you can create you can 
create more of then, you can 

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level them up. 
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for you which was which was 
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But by yes, the main, the main 
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on your boat. 
As they say, which in the 

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beginning, is a simple raft and 
just go fishing, right? 

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Specially captures like worth, a
certain amount of points or 

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coins, or what have you? 
You can cook, you can collect 

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the maximum amount of fish and 
then you sort of go back to your

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main island and catch them in, 
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You cash a man, and then there's
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ISM of guiding you to like the 
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Like there was hey first, you 
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assistant, You Can level them 
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So that any sort of amount that 
you level them up on the they 

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make slightly more money per 
minute, right? 

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So I guess. 
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You invest more to level them up
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more of a time or something like
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Totally. 
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shop. 
You can open up like the little 

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pet store. 
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costume store, you can open up a
different like there's this area

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of the island with like drums. 
And the right place. 

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Yeah, you're right. 
I forgot about that. 

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There's like a lot of kids 
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can sort of. 
Just if you've got the if you 

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got the cash you can just tap 
and then unlocks and opens it 

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up. 
I remember also if you want to 

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open up more Islands there's 
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which is probably like a pretty 
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of the map. 
Right? 

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So initially you only have 
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which is off of your main 
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You go there to fish which is 
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then I think the real way to 
sort of continue Really making 

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money on this game is to sort of
like beef up your assistance and

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yeah building more stuff around 
the island, right? 

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So initially off the bat like 
you have I think like three 

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slots to put in fishing 
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that there's going to be a lot 
more and then you also have the 

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ability to upgrade your raft or 
your boat, right? 

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To like different votes, which 
then allows you to move faster 

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while fishing as well as have 
more slots to store the fish 

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that you catch that was The 
things I was hoping we would 

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talk about is the way in which 
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make that easier because that's 
one thing that you do tap out on

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pretty quickly as you catch, you
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I think might be the initial 
limit initial is for. 

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And then I think the next 
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five fish that you can catch em.
And then, even with that though,

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like I feel like there is 
normally like idle games, it's 

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your very busy, doing the thing 
that you're supposed to do, 

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like, click, click, click click,
or something like that. 

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Like, there are lots of idle 
games on mobile where you have 

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to Like / things and just have 
to like continually / but this 

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was kind of different because 
like you have to actually go to 

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like a fishing place which is 
super calm and relaxing and 

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actually like go around on a 
boat using your thumb to control

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the raft and then do the 
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So the fishing is like super 
non-consequential, you can't 

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really fail, right? 
And it's econ and it you just 

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it's the act of costing is just 
so simple. 

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Pull. 
Yeah, so as you know, like a 

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slingshot in that was I was 
curious about where you pull 

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back and then it shows, like 
sort of like a casting line in 

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the opposite direction. 
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just sort of cast exactly to 
that spot. 

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Any fish that are around like 
that little area that you cast 

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it to, the fish comes to it and 
then you just tap and then you 

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get the fish. 
There's absolutely no difficulty

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in it. 
It's just something that you do 

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which I think is both a charm 
and a curse in my opinion and we

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can get that we can get to that 
later but yeah. 

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Overall. 
All I think it's like a super 

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chill game, right? 
So chill. 

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I've it's, I mean it was, it was
right there in the description. 

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I honestly feel like that's one 
of the most genuinely accurate 

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descriptions of a game that 
we've seen in recent time here 

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on the show is that it is quite 
meditative the visuals are very 

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Serene, the music is pretty 
common super relaxed me of being

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in a spa or something and 
hearing this kind of like, it's 

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a very sleepy sort of relaxing, 
type of music. 

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That's perfect. 
I would like to play like, right

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before you go to bed, I was just
gonna say that. 

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Is when I played at the nice was
right before bed because it was,

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I'm not good at meditating. 
As I should be, I'm not good at 

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using the apps that help you do 
that, but this was sort of like 

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that this felt like a new age 
way of meditating, because it 

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was so chill, except for one 
part, which we'll get to in the 

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bad part. 
Oh, I'm excited for, yeah, let's

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get to the three by threes 
theis, what is your first? 

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Good point you touched on it 
before explaining the slingshot 

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method to fishing? 
The simple controls? 

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I felt like it was very easy. 
I Really needed to use more than

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my thumb if that makes sense. 
Like I could just like, hold my 

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phone, use my thumb and navigate
around, the way that you 

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navigate on the island, on foot 
is sort of the same as when 

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you're on a boat where you place
your thumb on the screen and 

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then you just move it in the 
direction. 

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And it's like that's about it. 
You just kind of wonder about I 

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like that a lot. 
I thought it was easy to fish as

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you described and then the 
moving of the boat and the 

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walking or felt very intuitive. 
I didn't need to learn anything 

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too much. 
That's my first good thing is 

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that simple controls? 
Yeah, I would agree with that to

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kind of build on top of that. 
My first good point is that this

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game is completely in portrait 
mode. 

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And I think it really adds to 
the Casual aspect of it. 

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They really put a real good 
focus on being able to have all 

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the controls mostly available on
like the bottom half of the 

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screen. 
So even with like the fishing 

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method I believe they chose that
slingshot method because then 

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you can cast it to the upper 
parts of the the screen while 

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just keeping your thumb and the 
bottom section and everything is

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really like all the controls are
down there and made it really 

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convenient for me to just like 
chill. 

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And just have one hand on the 
phone rather than having two 

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hands on the phone to play this 
game. 

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So it really lends itself to 
being a real good. 

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Casual idle game, what's your 
next? 

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Good points. 
A great point I think the 

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soundtrack and just the overall 
audio you know. 

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I'm a sucker for that great 
audio. 

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Really helps me connect to it 
game and this was good. 

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I thought it was pretty good. 
It's very bad. 

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And like it's definitely 
background and kind of it's not 

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going to overtake your senses or
confuse you, but I think it 

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really complemented, the chill 
factor, shall we say to the 

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game? 
It is definitely a chill. 

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The music is relaxing. 
I think I had some issues with 

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the sound effects, just being a 
little bit too generic. 

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It didn't really have a didn't 
stand out at all in any way. 

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And while that might be really 
relaxing, I think they could 

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have actually done a little bit 
more to make it a little bit. 

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More unique or a little bit like
crunchier and I can actually get

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get to this in like the bad 
points. 

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But my next good point is that 
this game is just like, super 

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relaxing, right? 
Yeah. 

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If you know, if you don't not 
getting the gist by now, I think

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we both felt very chilled 
binary. 

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It's nice. 
It's a wind down game, it's not 

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a wind-up game, you know, it's 
kind of I feel like it's kind of

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like a blessing and a curse like
it's so relaxing and I think 

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idle games usually try. 
And motivate you to get to the 

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next thing. 
But because of the nature of 

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this game is like pretty 
relaxing. 

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Like I had I didn't really have 
a strong of a motivation to 

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continue on with the next thing 
as I did with like other idle 

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games. 
Only motivation here is like to 

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really expand your Island and 
expand the functionality is 

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there and there and maybe 
expanding your fishing 

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capabilities, but outside of 
that like it's super chill. 

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So I think the expectations are 
also like not really set upon. 

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You probably by Design, I think 
you're right. 

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It's a good point. 
Ain't the last thing for me that

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I found great. 
Was that from what I can tell 

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the fish species are real? 
I was yet, I hadn't come across 

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any fish that. 
I either didn't already know 

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about or went and looked up and 
realized it was real because it 

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was a new species to me. 
But I like that, I think they 

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could have they could have gone 
a more playful route and made 

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stuff up, but they took a real 
fish species. 

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Illustrated it in a more 
playful, like, simplified 

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manner. 
But then, you can learn a bit 

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about the fish. 
And then it's interesting. 

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It's interesting to go and Look 
that fish up and then see what 

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it's like in the water. 
And how many variants of that 

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fish there are? 
And where do they live in the 

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world where they introduced and 
where they nod and other 

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endangered? 
And that I really like that. 

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I think it can be semi 
educational in that sense. 

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And I'm not sure if that was the
intention of the developers but 

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I really liked it. 
It taught me a little bit about 

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some species. 
I wasn't aware of totally and I 

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think what was really cute is. 
That not only did they have the 

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different species of fish, you 
know? 

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They kind of had like, the 
different locations, where you 

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can find them. 
Like, certain fish are only able

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to find in like, certain, Ends. 
But on top of that, like the 

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styling of the fish were all 
sort of like styled with in this

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game. 
So they were all kind of cute 

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looking right? 
But cute. 

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And you can tell a lot of love 
was but into modeling. 

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These is all done in 3D, right. 
And there's a lot of care put 

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into it. 
My third good point. 

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Is that much like that there are
a variety of fish. 

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There are a lot of things to do 
in this game so you can actually

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go fishing. 
I don't know if the function or 

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like the mechanics of fishing 
ever gets a little Any deeper or

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more difficult but with my time 
with it it was kind of like same

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all throughout but you can 
upgrade your fish I assume 

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there's going to be a way to 
upgrade your fishing pole, I'm 

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not sure. 
But there's like a jobs board 

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that you can unlock which then 
gives you some objectives of 

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like catching a certain fish so 
you can go around to look for 

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that certain fish. 
You know, you have a pet that 

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you can upgrade as well which 
gives you like a multiplier on 

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like the amount of coins that 
you gain, you can upgrade your 

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I'm sure there's a ton more 
things that you can upgrade on 

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your eyelids as well to gain 
more coins. 

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There are lots of things to do 
in this game and yeah, and it 

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seems like there's a really good
mix of like that casual type 

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gameplay and being able to build
this up. 

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So, yeah. 
Overall like, you know, a lot of

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stuff to do in this game that 
isn't really forced upon you, 

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but more like just there for you
to do. 

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So that's a, that's a big plus 
for me. 

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I noticed that too pretty 
quickly. 

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That it's I assumed it was going
to be about fishing Ryan, just 

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like progress of fishing, but I 
thought it's your hat tip to the

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developers here. 
And designers and everyone that 

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worked on the game that there's 
a lot of just casual like 

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walking about you'll stumble 
across something. 

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I thought that was really nice. 
It just felt like there wasn't 

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pressure like you say if you're 
into that kind of thing, if you 

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like building stuff, I'm locking
things. 

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Yeah. 
There's a lot to do here but 

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shall we move on to the bad 
points? 

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Let's get to the bad points of 
this idle. 

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Relaxing game taste. 
What is your first bad? 

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But first one is ADS. 
I hate ads. 

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I struggled a lot with that. 
And the way that they are 

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integrated into this, Game, I 
thought was interesting there, 

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the Takeover ads I'm a little 
more naive to mobile ads. 

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I'm still learning but they are 
the kind of take over the whole 

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screen wait for the timer to 
countdown. 

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But then there are native 
controls in the game where let's

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say you want to cash in that the
fish and get paid for them. 

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I think there's a way where you 
can watch like double the amount

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of the ads or whatever it is to 
get like double the amount of 

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the money but it's a rave 
control to do that and I am not 

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the most attentive person. 
So I like more than once I tap 

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the 22x thing not realizing 
because it the way that it's 

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shown in the, in the UI it's 
like a brighter color or it's 

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more attractive. 
Right? 

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So. 
Well done. 

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It's to the tickets. 
I'm pretty sure that's 

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intentional. 
And then you'd have to well done

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to the Shady. 
You actually tried Atkins a 

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little bit of duck. 
Ux there that I well and truly 

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fell into ready for it. 
Hook Line & Sinker. 

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Oh boy girls go missing part of 
the of the show. 

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Yeah. 
That that fire lat. 

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I know I'm out here. 
Sorry. 

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This is my last show by the way.
So No, I just the ads got me. 

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We've talked about this before, 
I know that, they're there for a

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reason, I do understand it. 
So I tried to check my my 

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frustrations, but they are, they
are big and they're righteous. 

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Yeah, and I was trying to think 
about this, right? 

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Like I had I also noted the 
monetization down as like a bad 

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issue but they do it in a way 
where if you think about it and 

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you're the developers, it's 
probably in the best place that 

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you can put it right? 
It's like could be they don't 

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really bother you as you start 
up. 

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They don't really bother you as 
you go fishing, they don't 

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bother. 
You when you're fishing is only 

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after you're done fishing and 
you're coming back to your home 

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Island to cash in that's when 
they put in the ad, right? 

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And so far that was like the 
only moment where they put in 

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the ad. 
So in that sense, it wasn't that

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bad but the quality of the ads 
that are in there which I don't 

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think the developers are 
actually controlling are so 

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terrible, right? 
That's like my problem is like 

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why do they continue to put ads 
of mobile games in mobile games?

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Like what Leti. 
Yeah, right already playing the 

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game. 
What I'm already playing a game.

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Why would I want to play another
game avatars? 

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All the stuff like TV shows or 
something? 

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I don't know. 
Like, exactly like trailers. 

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I have no problems. 
Watching of movies. 

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You know. 
Like, there's so much that they 

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can do there and just continue 
on. 

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Yeah, it's really bad. 
Lead you away from a game when 

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you're hurt to another game when
you're already playing the game 

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I just don't. 
It doesn't make any sense to me.

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That also really Grandma gears 
him. 

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Yeah. 
So Ization was a big thing. 

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I would consider it actually 
buying the ads free portion to 

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actually not have ads in the 
game, but it was a little too 

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steep for me in terms of price. 
I know, I should support this 

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game. 
Anyways, what does it fit? 

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It was like 699 to get rid of 
the ads, normally sleeps. 

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It's about like up to $5 up 
2499. 

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I'd be like, okay, like I have 
no problem cost of a coffee cup 

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variety show. 
By the time that I noticed that 

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the ads were pretty annoying, 
the time that I invested in it 

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wasn't enough For me to justify 
that 699 point, right? 

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And so yeah, it was it was 
weird. 

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Like I don't think 699 is a good
price point for that or I'm not 

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sure if we buy any other package
that it does remove the ads as 

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well normally like in these type
of games, if you buy like their 

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summer package or like you know,
whatever bundle that they have, 

452
00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:52,400
yeah, then it gets rid of ads 
but that wasn't clear to me. 

453
00:21:52,408 --> 00:21:54,500
So I didn't I didn't take that 
approach as well. 

454
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,700
Yeah, but I agree, I had a 
similar thought. 

455
00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:59,800
So, add some one possession, got
it. 

456
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,900
I lost a bit of track on it 
throughout the week. 

457
00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:06,100
And I think you touched on this,
before that due to the slow pace

458
00:22:06,100 --> 00:22:09,800
of the game, it didn't I didn't 
come back to this game for 

459
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,800
similar Reasons from other 
games, which was like 

460
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,900
progression. 
I think I actually came back to 

461
00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:16,200
this game because it was so 
relaxing. 

462
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800
Hmm, which I think is a good 
thing, that's interesting, but I

463
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,600
did lose track of it, you know, 
because I think the my mental 

464
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,100
model for wanting to complete a 
game is generally pretty 

465
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,100
straightforward of like I want 
to get to the next thing and get

466
00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,900
to the end of whatever it is. 
This game I don't really know 

467
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:31,700
what the end would look like, 
and the, the attraction for that

468
00:22:31,700 --> 00:22:33,700
was less. 
Yeah, I actually came back to it

469
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,900
because it was relaxing when I 
was about to go to bed. 

470
00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:39,000
So I did lose track, go through 
the week. 

471
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,400
I think because of that maybe 
more traditional want of 

472
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,300
finishing a game that is really 
interesting. 

473
00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,400
Yeah. 
So I feel like the same type of 

474
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,000
Attraction of like what brought 
me back to this game. 

475
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:52,100
Wasn't any sort of need for me 
to see things through? 

476
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:55,300
It was just the total 
convenience of it being super 

477
00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:58,500
casual that. 
Acted me to come back. 

478
00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,300
But at the same time I was 
thinking about it and I was 

479
00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:06,900
like, man, I kind of wish that 
this game felt like I was 

480
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:10,300
playing more of a game like 
that, little D. 

481
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,400
Yeah for me, the endorphins 
weren't popping the hmm. 

482
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,400
The little signals of I forgot. 
What what, what a hormone that 

483
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,300
is where, you know, like when 
you get a like on Instagram, you

484
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,700
have that little pop and orphan.
Yeah. 

485
00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:28,300
Yeah. 
Like I think getting towed like 

486
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,300
when you started the game, you 
might have had that and then 

487
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,900
it's sort of pretty quickly just
like yeah, it might be like 

488
00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:36,300
getting minor for me, but there 
is still a need for me to come 

489
00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:39,600
back and I think it's just like 
you said, like just the ease of 

490
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,400
being able to come back into it,
that makes it much more 

491
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,900
available. 
It's kind of like watching a 

492
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,500
Seinfeld episode, right? 
Like you can just slide back 

493
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,100
into a Seinfeld episode and just
like watch the next one without 

494
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:51,300
any issues. 
Never left. 

495
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,000
It's like you never left, right?
But it's the same way like wire,

496
00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,000
I can't watch. 
An episode of let's say I don't 

497
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,500
know what's like an intense 
show. 

498
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,500
That was really good. 
Like like Breaking Bad, right? 

499
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,000
You can't just slip into that 
you can't just slip into it. 

500
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,300
You have to kind of like 
mentally steel yourself in order

501
00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,900
to be ready for especially when 
the episodes were still new and 

502
00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,300
they're coming out, right? 
Yeah. 

503
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:21,100
And that same way like this is 
so easy to get back into but I 

504
00:24:21,108 --> 00:24:23,300
was missing. 
Like, my bad point is that I was

505
00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:27,100
missing a little bit of that pop
that made it feel like it. 

506
00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:29,800
Enjoyable game. 
But overall it's still very 

507
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,700
enjoyable. 
I mean, there's some there's 

508
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:33,300
analogies here for fishing, 
right? 

509
00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,300
Because I mean, one of the 
constant things about fishing is

510
00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:37,800
you're not always going to catch
a fish but you seem try. 

511
00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,800
So go on down to the lake and 
having a fish and not getting a 

512
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,100
single bite. 
You haven't failed, you just 

513
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:45,600
haven't had that hit, you know, 
so that and some people that 

514
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,600
really frustrates them other 
people that don't care. 

515
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:50,300
They're just there to relax and 
I think, but when you do catch 

516
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:52,600
that fish, you're pretty elated.
You know, you got your 

517
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,900
definitely gonna come back the 
next day. 

518
00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:56,900
That's that's a hands down, you 
know, so I see someone allergies

519
00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:58,500
here. 
The game itself, you know, of 

520
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:02,000
like maybe if you were to have 
more of those hits, you'd be 

521
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,700
more likely to come back more 
often. 

522
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,900
But I do think I do think to 
wrap it up here that it is, it 

523
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,600
is a credit to the people that 
made this game. 

524
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,000
That for me, at least, I felt 
more inclined to come back to 

525
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,400
it, because it was relaxing, 
which is not something I've 

526
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600
experienced with many video 
games at all. 

527
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,100
Gotcha, that's it for mine. 
Do you have any other bad 

528
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,700
points? 
I have one last point that it 

529
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:28,100
could, again, this could be user
error as in me, but Couldn't, I 

530
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:31,200
couldn't quite understand the 
currency model and I was 

531
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,100
wondering if you could walk us 
through it sound like there's 

532
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,300
the coins that you earn from 
fish and you redeem those coins 

533
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:37,700
for things. 
Like the assistance, like you 

534
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:41,700
said getting a beach ball 
unlocking, you know, different 

535
00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:45,400
things on the dock and drums and
totems and what have you? 

536
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,100
But it looks like there was 
another currency model in the 

537
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:49,700
game, right? 
But I didn't. 

538
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,000
Yeah. 
And I feel like that is a pretty

539
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,700
common mechanism in gaming, but 
I'm still quite new to that and 

540
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,100
I can figure out how to purchase
stuff on the show. 

541
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,900
Shop. 
Did you? 

542
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:03,500
Yeah, so the Pearl is any sort 
of like is used usually for any 

543
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:07,600
sort of adornment that I think 
will change your character's 

544
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,900
appearance or maybe. 
Like, that's how you eventually 

545
00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:13,200
get other better boats or better
fishing rods. 

546
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,300
I wanted to bet it buds. 
Yeah, yeah. 

547
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:16,600
Wasn't. 
So I'm not a, you know, there's 

548
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,000
some not so much in the 
Cosmetics but I wanted those 

549
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,700
better votes. 
It's very cool boats in there. 

550
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,200
Yeah. 
And I think that's where they're

551
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,900
really banking on that actual 
monetization. 

552
00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:28,500
So, everything else you can just
unlock Within Game by using the 

553
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,200
in-game currency, which are the 
coins. 

554
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:35,200
But if you want any sort of like
that bigger, cooler things, I 

555
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,800
think that's where you have to 
spend real bucks to get the 

556
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,600
pearls in order to buy them 
initially. 

557
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,200
They give you a set of pearls 
for like doing one of the tasks 

558
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,800
that are given to you. 
But outside of that I think is 

559
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,100
going to be very rare for you to
try to gain them with in-game. 

560
00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:51,700
I kind of figured it makes 
sense. 

561
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,000
You know like he's lucky not at 
all with monetization like you 

562
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,900
do do need to make some money 
these games it didn't feel too. 

563
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,500
Familiar. 
But I wasn't quite sure how to 

564
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:00,300
actually get to that. 
So right. 

565
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,800
And from my take of it, I didn't
feel that icky as well. 

566
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:07,200
Like I think a lot of times game
companies really try to expand 

567
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:13,200
on this to make it so I guess 
like really like you really want

568
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,100
them. 
But for this game, it wasn't 

569
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:20,900
that it wasn't that like it's 
like gross and that 

570
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,200
implementation, but it's the 
fact that it's still there. 

571
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,500
Kind of made me feel like, okay,
like they're still following the

572
00:27:25,508 --> 00:27:29,200
same patterns that You're like, 
well, yeah. 

573
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,800
They still need to do this too 
many get paid, right? 

574
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,600
I think you'll note before on 
the, I just want to also say 

575
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,800
another fishing analogy, because
I'm tempted, because, I don't 

576
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,200
know, we'll play fishing game 
again, is the time at which they

577
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,900
throw the ad mmm, and you're 
saying, that's towards the end. 

578
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:46,500
That's when you're bringing the 
fish back just like fishing, 

579
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,800
that's when the day is kind of 
over, you got to clean up the 

580
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,000
boat. 
You got to clean the fish, you 

581
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,800
know. 
It's just it's you got to do it.

582
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,400
It's not a not a huge amount of 
fun but it's part of the 

583
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,100
process. 
I think that in that sense you 

584
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:57,600
are right, that felt very real 
Organic. 

585
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,900
But that's about it for tides. 
A fishing game and I'm very 

586
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:05,300
curious to know what is your 
seven-day radiant taste. 

587
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,200
This is a seven days for me. 
Oh my God. 

588
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,400
Ah, this is wow, I haven't been 
on a show where you've given it 

589
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,100
a 7. 
Yeah. 

590
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,900
And I picked it and you picked 
it. 

591
00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:18,400
Yeah. 
Wow. 

592
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:23,100
There's something about the way 
that it was so made for the 

593
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,900
portrait, as well as like taking
really good considerations of 

594
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,300
the Escape. 
I mean the portrait mode for you

595
00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:32,600
to be able to just do the things
that you do and making it super 

596
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,900
casual to just pop back into. 
Yeah, I Revisited all seven days

597
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:40,200
and played it and, you know, got
a little bit of progress more on

598
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,900
some days on the other. 
But overall, like, yeah, that 

599
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:46,700
continual progress that you got 
from unlocking. 

600
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,800
Those assistants made it, 
something where you can come 

601
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,400
back the next day. 
He's like, oh, great. 

602
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,000
They made like a bunch of coins 
for me. 

603
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,700
That's awesome. 
We didn't that. 

604
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:55,800
That moment is actually really 
nice. 

605
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,000
You just like, collect the 
money. 

606
00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:59,400
And it's all very wholesome, 
very Animal Crossing, like 

607
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,100
there's nothing weird there and 
it's really nice to collect the 

608
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:05,800
big box of the fact that I've 
been doing the fishing for you 7

609
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,700
out of 7. 
Yeah, case, what did you give 

610
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:10,500
Tides:? 
Efficient game. 

611
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Well sin, I played this game. 
Six out of seven days. 

612
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,300
Nice, I'm not sure I've done 
that before either and for very 

613
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,700
similar reasons, I did not make 
as much progress as you, but I 

614
00:29:22,708 --> 00:29:26,000
did enjoy just tuning out for a 
few minutes there before I went 

615
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,300
to bed and click. 
And collected the money. 

616
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,800
But then gone for a fish. 
I love it in real life and turns

617
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,600
out I love it on a phone so that
was very chill. 

618
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:38,200
It's a pleasurable six out of 
seven days for me. 

619
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,200
Awesome taste, that was Tides a 
fishing game. 

620
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,500
Now, it is up to me to choose 
the next game. 

621
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Tice, you have seven days to 
play mr. 

622
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,300
Traffic. 
Okay mr. 

623
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:54,900
Traffic. 
Let me see. 

624
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Let me see. 
Oh yeah. 

625
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:58,800
Yeah, this looks like a lot of 
fun. 

626
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,300
Even the even the icon is 
adorable. 

627
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:04,500
I'll read you the first line 
from the description mr. 

628
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:08,400
Traffic from dumpling design. 
We're in a good spot here. 

629
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,900
Tap cars to make them go avoid 
crashing for a high school. 

630
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
There it is cool. 
Well thank you kindly. 

631
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,700
So that is our show. 
But before we go Tice you have a

632
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:22,800
thing of the week. 
I do. 

633
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Actually our friend group has 
been great in the last couple of

634
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,600
years. 
That recommending all sorts of 

635
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,300
things that you want for 
yourself. 

636
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,500
It's like a little Think Tank, 
sometimes controversial, 

637
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:38,300
sometimes the clear hit and I 
was recommended to try. 

638
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:43,100
Konjac chilly as a way to snack 
during the day and sort of 

639
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,900
avoid. 
Some of those may be you know, 

640
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:48,800
less a good foods, less a good, 
what a dreadful use of English. 

641
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:54,500
Mmm, so my wife and I have been 
snacking on konjac jelly over 

642
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,800
the last few weeks and it's 
delicious. 

643
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:03,100
And a nice alternative to maybe 
like crackers or any of the kind

644
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,100
of like other snacks that you'd 
reach for. 

645
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,300
And I've been really enjoying 
it. 

646
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:09,600
It reminds me of being a child 
again because it comes in this 

647
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,200
most adorable, little sachet 
that you need to break up and 

648
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,400
then you squeeze it. 
And it's, it's like a fun 

649
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,300
experience to snack on that, and
it's very easy. 

650
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:22,400
Nice, a lot of like, not just 
weight loss but healthy habits 

651
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
come from. 
He's so that has been fun. 

652
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,600
So I'll link to that in the 
description for the Faster you 

653
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,300
can go check it out. 
Contact jelly, I'm new to it. 

654
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:33,200
Awesome. 
Do you are you familiar with the

655
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,300
konjac at all? 
No. 

656
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,700
Okay. 
I am now. 

657
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,900
So a little bit more. 
Now, I believe the right 

658
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:42,400
pronunciation is konnyaku which 
is like a Japanese word. 

659
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,300
I'm not sure if that's just a 
translation from konjac. 

660
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,600
Like have you heard of project 
before vaguely but honestly not 

661
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,000
not, I haven't heard a great 
deal about it, okay? 

662
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:55,700
Because I'm not sure which came 
first. 

663
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,700
If it's the konjac that A Seraph
konnyaku is just interpretation 

664
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,400
of konjac, right? 
Right. 

665
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,700
So I'm not sure, but like, I've 
always known that as konnyaku, 

666
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,900
okay? 
Which is sort of like, made from

667
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,900
kind of like a yam, right? 
Like, it's like Taro starch. 

668
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,500
That's put together and because 
it's like vegan friendly, right?

669
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:17,200
Yeah. 
Again, it's like very low on the

670
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,900
glycemic, so it doesn't like 
shoot up your insulin at all. 

671
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,500
And yeah, very low calories, low
sugar. 

672
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,000
So generally the texture is like
a jelly. 

673
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,300
It's kind of broken up if you've
ever known like agar-agar as 

674
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:32,200
well, it's kind of like that. 
But yeah. 

675
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:36,700
Like big fan of it, I actually 
had been looking for cognac, 

676
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,800
just like sweet, cognac, because
they've they've used cognac for 

677
00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:42,600
Savory Foods for a really long 
time. 

678
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,900
And you can find that so 
excessively, right? 

679
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:48,400
We are only if you make like 
Yakiniku or like a Sukiyaki, 

680
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:53,000
like you put the noodle version 
of konnyaku which they have in 

681
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,300
it as well or like you can even 
have them to cube version which 

682
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,600
you can like kind of like cook 
up or sear and you put that in 

683
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000
the end Foods as well. 
Yeah. 

684
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,500
So it's all so it could be used 
for like a Savory thing. 

685
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:05,000
Yep. 
Yeah. 

686
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,500
I'm glad you're lucky civil but 
um, it's good stuff. 

687
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,000
It is good. 
Yeah, I think it's great to 

688
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,600
Shake It Up. 
Good recommendation there from 

689
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,400
the think tank group from the 
frame tank but what yeah, what 

690
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,100
about you Sam? 
What something of the week I'm 

691
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:18,300
gonna get it. 
I'm going to show you on the 

692
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,400
screen. 
People won't be able to see a we

693
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,800
go because it's not a video 
podcast, but what? 

694
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,900
Hold on. 
I can attempt to describe what I

695
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:27,700
see as it as it comes at me. 
All right. 

696
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,300
Look at this Honker. 
This is boss. 

697
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,000
Sam is holding at like it looks 
like a foot long case. 

698
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,600
This is the steam deck of the 
zip on it. 

699
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:42,500
Oh this thing is the steam deck 
roll. 

700
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:47,400
Well it's not easy yourself 
under flexing their I can I can 

701
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,400
I look at that a nice wide, 
handheld gaming devices, right? 

702
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,300
So this is the steam deck. 
This is the latest sort of hat, 

703
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,100
quote, unquote. 
Handheld, from steam, or valve, 

704
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:03,600
valve software. 
And yeah, it's I'm very 

705
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,400
impressed by it. 
So see how it's just like start 

706
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,400
off my game. 
Yeah, it's a PC game. 

707
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,400
Wow, there is a function was 
right resume? 

708
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,300
And then like, oh, I'm getting 
into a fight. 

709
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,100
Let's see if I can do this while
looking. 

710
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,100
Wow. 
Right, well, save us play this 

711
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:23,600
game right in front of me. 
It is essentially a PC game but 

712
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,000
in the format of like a big 
switch. 

713
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,600
Yeah. 
Nintendo switch or something and

714
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,900
it's running at 60 frames per 
seconds there. 

715
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,100
It's got the trackpad so you can
move it. 

716
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:37,199
Yeah, it's amazing. 
I can't believe that you can 

717
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,800
hold a PC in your hands. 
It's always been a real limiting

718
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,000
factor on even laptop gaming 
laptops. 

719
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,800
Haven't been that great but so 
is kicking my butt. 

720
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:50,600
That's Dad's. 
It feel in the hands, like does 

721
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,100
it feel I can all make? 
Is it heavy? 

722
00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:55,300
Is it light? 
So it's kind of heavy, right? 

723
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,500
It's if you think of like a 
switch, I imagined it would be 

724
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,700
it's only slightly more heavier 
than a switch. 

725
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Okay? 
But overall it feels like 

726
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,800
totally doable as like something
that you can just like play on 

727
00:35:07,808 --> 00:35:11,400
your lap or like hold up for a 
long time, the controls actually

728
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,100
feel really good. 
So the the controls are up here,

729
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,100
which is kind of not normal 
because normally they put him 

730
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:19,900
down. 
Your for some reason, right? 

731
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,800
Right. 
And then based on the handles of

732
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,800
it. 
Yeah. 

733
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600
The handles are a higher on top 
next to the screen which I think

734
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,900
is like such a smart thing to do
because when you hold it, it's 

735
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,000
like feels so natural. 
I'll interesting. 

736
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,200
Usually it to be ye like you 
said further down down to the 

737
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,500
bottom of the, of the controller
or device or whatever. 

738
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,000
Yeah, and overall, it feels 
great. 

739
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400
Like I think this is such a did 
such a good job with it. 

740
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,700
I'm very impressed by it, but 
yeah, because it's a PC. 

741
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,400
You can pick up games that 
you've already owned on Steam. 

742
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,300
Yeah, you can resume the one, 
you like over 5. 1,000 games on 

743
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:52,200
Steam. 
Oh my Lord, I wonder if you'll 

744
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,600
revisit games that you wouldn't 
play on your PC, 01 his it, 

745
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,500
recite their. 
Yeah. 

746
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:58,900
It's if you're on a trip or 
you're in your bed or like you 

747
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:00,900
just hanging out on the couch, 
like, you just casually going to

748
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,500
pick up games that you own, and 
haven't bothered to look out for

749
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:04,900
some time. 
That's pretty cool, right? 

750
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:07,700
And so, I think, what's the 
really exciting thing about this

751
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:09,700
too? 
Is they've already put a bunch 

752
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,000
of emulators that you can put on
this that. 

753
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,300
So you, come on. 
Now, now we're talking so you 

754
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,300
can get like, your entire like 
main catalog, your old SNES. 

755
00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:21,900
Eames even like your PlayStation
games on this thing. 

756
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,400
And because it has like you 
PlayStation Portable very cool. 

757
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,400
Wow. 
So yeah, great little device, 

758
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,300
kind of expensive, 700 bucks, 
right? 

759
00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,700
For like 500 gig version. 
I do think that the playability 

760
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,600
that you just mentioned the fact
that because it's a PC, just 

761
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,900
opens up a world. 
I heard that you can install 

762
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:44,300
Windows, if you want to. 
Yeah, it's running on Windows 

763
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:45,800
store, don't you? 
Okay. 

764
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:48,700
And then I noticed this morning 
somewhere, I read that That they

765
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:51,300
partnered with iFixit for 
replacement parts. 

766
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:54,400
So they're like, embracing the 
fixing your own world rather 

767
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,300
than the sort of lock down. 
Everything's glued together and 

768
00:36:57,700 --> 00:36:59,500
you know, bolted together, sort 
of sure. 

769
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:03,100
But don't ever use, I fix it. 
I mean those people my goodness 

770
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:04,400
and I won't say anything bad 
about. 

771
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,800
I fix it but yeah, you have 
better options. 

772
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,500
I think the right to repent 
movement is is moving 100% being

773
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,100
out at and stuff. 
It's good. 

774
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,100
Yeah, yeah. 
So the fact that like steamer 

775
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,100
embracing a right to repair for 
something, I like this because 

776
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,000
it's like you say it's got a 
pretty hefty price tag. 

777
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,500
You know. 
You don't want to be shipping 

778
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,000
that thing off when you bust a 
joystick or something. 

779
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,700
Exactly. 
Yeah, I agree. 

780
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:29,200
Yeah. 
So that's the same deck. 

781
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,800
And that is my thing of the 
week. 

782
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,200
Tice. 
You have seven days to play mr. 

783
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Traffic. 
I'm looking forward to this one.

784
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,500
This looks like a lot of fun. 
Thanks for the pic, find us on 

785
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,300
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786
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:43,900
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