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Hello chefs, This is Chefs PSA 
Podcast. 

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I'm your host Andrea Natera. 
On today's episode, we're gonna 

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talk about social currency in 
the kitchen. 

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So before we get started, just a

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quick update, Last week I did 
the Q&A that I do on my 

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Instagram every Sunday, cigar 
Sunday Q&A, shout out to Escobar

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cigars. 
And this week, well, this past 

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week I should say I had to type 
the answers because I couldn't 

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smoke my cigar because it was 
very cold outside. 

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So I I'm starting to have to 
rethink this a little bit as we 

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go into winter and it starts to 
get cold, but there's going to 

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be a lot of weather anomalies 
that don't make it ideal cigar 

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weather. 
So sometimes when it's too cold,

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it might be just Q&A Sunday with
no cigar. 

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Anyway, you know, early on I 
used to do the Q&A directly to 

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the podcast. 
There's, I want to say there's 

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four total episodes. 
Like I answer your most pondered

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questions, part one and two, and
then I think there was a fall 

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episode where I answer your 
questions as well. 

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Anyway, you can go back and 
listen to those. 

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The good thing about those Q&A S
when I do them on the podcast is

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I can answer them in a longer 
format where when I do them on 

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Instagram, it's very short. 
I think Instagram gives you like

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30 seconds to a minute to answer
them and sometimes they're deep 

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questions. 
I could some of them I could do 

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a whole podcast on, but the 
clock is ticking and I got to 

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get my most witty answer out 
while smoking a cigar, looking 

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at the clock and drinking that 
old fashioned. 

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So sometimes my answers are a 
bit brief and also some of the 

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questions are a bit vague. 
Anyway, if you want me to go 

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back to doing a long format Q&A 
session on the podcast, let me 

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know. 
I do get a lot of questions 

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regarding having guests on the 
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that's not something that I 
intend on doing. 

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You listen to this podcast since
episode one to now episode 71. 

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You'll note that I've had 
exactly 0 guests on the podcast 

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and if I ever do venture out to 
a guest centric podcast, I'd 

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love to do chef smoking cigars 
talking crap podcast. 

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But I need a cigar lounge for 
that. 

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So if someone wants to invest in
getting me a cigar lounge, we 

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could do chef smoking cigars 
podcast. 

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Anyway, if you want to support 
the show, go to chefspsa.com, go

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get the books Culinary 
Leadership Fundamentals, which 

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honestly is probably the most 
important book for all chefs. 

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Then Kitchen Art of War is, you 
know, advanced strategy for 

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chefs. 
Bad sue good chef is for the new

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sous chefs. 
And you know, maybe sometimes 

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when you have all these 
questions that are going through

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your mind and you don't know who
to ask, that's the book that you

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want. 
I based that off a lot of the 

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Q&A questions that I get and 
also questions that I would have

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when I was a sous chef or that 
my sous chefs used to ask me. 

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Line cook survival manual, which
I think is the book that line 

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cooks and new cooks need, as 
well as how not to be the 

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biggest idiot in the kitchen, 
which not everyone needs that 

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It's more of a joke book. 
There's some practical advice in

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there too, but it's a lot of 
jokes. 

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Now the topic at hand, Social 
currency in the kitchen. 1st, we

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should probably explain what 
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Social currency is like money. 
Money is currency. 

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Social currency is your value 
that you bring to social 

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settings, The kitchen being the 
social setting that we're 

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discussing right now. 
Someone asked me the other day 

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if I could explain what it's 
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in the kitchen now. 
There's a lot that they don't 

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tell you on culinary school, and
there's a lot that you figure 

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And I think the transition for 
some people can be shocking, 

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especially if you're coming 
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going into culinary school, or 
if you're skipping culinary 

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school and going straight from 
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job. 
And what you quickly find out is

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no matter what your social 
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you're a career changer in the 
previous job, it is completely 

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null and void when you step into
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Now, I don't want people to 
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I think there should be a 
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kitchens. 
Everyone should be treated with 

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dignity and respect. 
I think kindness goes a long 

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way. 
I think chefs need to do a 

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better job at respecting people 
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not not. 
And when I say chefs, I'm, you 

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know, I'm, I'm painting a 
picture that all chefs don't do 

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that, but a lot of chefs do. 
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stigma that the industry has is 
that chefs are egotistical and 

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tyrannical. 
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everything. 
As I've said before, there's 

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good people and there's bad 
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people and bad people happen to 
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It doesn't mean that chefs 
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It's just there's just kind of a
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world. 
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first and foremost there should 
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throughout all kitchens. 
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social currency and you're new 
to the industry, you might 

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quickly discover that the social
currency that you had in your 

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previous industry, school, 
college, whatever the case may 

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be, is null and void when you 
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And why is that? 
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really matters when you're in 
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how do you work the line? 
And are you responsible and do 

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you show up when I need you? 
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Do you clean? 
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Do you cause me problems? 
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is how you work with others. 
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kitchen, the more social 
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This is what gets people 
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When you're building a team, 
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currency meaning their high 
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to work, that's someone that you
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you're looking for someone if 
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them in the past. 
But a lot of new cooks sometimes

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have a hard time adjusting to 
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college or whatever the case may
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different industry. 
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kind of car you drive, what 
neighborhood you came from, what

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city you're from, how much money
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boyfriend is, who your 
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significant other is, who your 
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None of that matters in the 
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help you when the line is busy. 
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doesn't matter what kind of car 
you drive and the person who's 

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in need of your help and needs 
you to perform could care less 

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what kind of car you drive. 
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have to think about that like 
you're weeded, 1000 tickets, the

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person next to you is going down
and then you're like, boy, I 

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wish you had a better car and 
maybe we wouldn't be weeded. 

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No one, no one says that social 
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Now I'm recording this on 
Halloween 2023 and I have a 

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slang word that I use and I call
it a Halloween ninja. 

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These are things that I throw 
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It's in the culinary dictionary 
by the way. 

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You can get at chefs psa.com. 
It is free, but the term 

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Halloween ninja means this. 
A Halloween ninja is someone in 

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the kitchen who looks the part 
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like a little kid on Halloween. 
They dress up like a ninja. 

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They got the uniform. 
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They got the fake throwing 
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But they're a little kid. 
They're not real ninjas. 

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And it's a plastic sword and 
there's no threat. 

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Well, the same thing happens in 
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We have Halloween ninjas, the 
type that look the part. 

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They get the most expensive 
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that they don't know how to use.
They could talk the talk, but 

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they cannot walk the walk. 
And the walk is much more 

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important than the talk in the 
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Doesn't matter how many culinary
terms you know. 

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Get the culinary dictionary. 
What matters more is can you 

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execute on those terms? 
I could care less if you have a 

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large vocabulary. 
If you can't make any of it, I'd

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prefer the person that has zero 
culinary vocabulary but can 

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execute everything in the 
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So it matters not what you look 
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matters how you perform. 
Now, I'll be the first one to 

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say I'm a sucker for a nice 
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I like the bragard blue aprons. 
I like fancy, expensive Japanese

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knives. 
But I wouldn't advise someone 

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who's new in the industry to 
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think that just because you have
expensive knives and fancy 

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aprons that that is going to 
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It's not what's going to give 
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ability to perform on the line. 
How fast you work, how precise 

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are your knife cuts? 
Do you know how to braise 

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properly? 
Can you make stocks and sauces? 

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Do you show up on time? 
That's your social currency. 

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And in a lot of kitchens, 
there's always that one person 

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that is higher level than 
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You know, they're they're just, 
they're just more swan. 

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Yeah. 
They have more finesse on what 

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they're doing. 
And everyone always looks up to 

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that person. 
And they want to be like them. 

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Like, I call that kitchen 
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You know, the way that they move
in the kitchen with precision 

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and they turn around and they 
have a pallet knife that just 

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puts the foie grat or shot on 
the plate, or they base the 

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scallops just perfectly. 
They don't tremble. 

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Their movements all seem 
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They're going to put a pan down 
and it goes directly on the 

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trivet without having to think. 
They don't even, they don't even

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have to look. 
They just know where it goes. 

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I call that kitchen karate. 
Some people call it the dance, 

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but it's like you want your 
black belt in kitchen, karate. 

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To be precise, having a black 
belt in kitchen karate is high 

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level social currency. 
So now let's talk if you have 

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zero skills, let's say you are 
new to the kitchen, you're just 

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out of culinary school or it's 
your first job and everyone in 

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the kitchen is good and there 
are levels above you. 

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As I like to say, they speak 
three languages and you barely 

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speak one. 
What can you do to build that 

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social currency in the kitchen? 
Well, if you're lacking in the 

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culinary skills, there's other 
things that you could do that 

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would help you stand out in a 
positive way. 

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The first thing is to be 
respectful in the kitchen. 

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Be respectful to everybody. 
Let's start there. 

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Then I would say work at the 
same pace as everyone else in 

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the kitchen. 
There's a certain cadence that 

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every kitchen has. 
If everyone's hustling, you 

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hustle. 
If everyone's moving to a 

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certain beat, you move to that 
same beat. 

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It doesn't mean that you have to
know the recipes, but you just 

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got to pay attention, use your 
eyes, and see how quickly people

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are moving. 
You might not know the recipes, 

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but you can have sense of 
urgency in your movements. 

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The next thing I will say is 
work. 

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Clean cleanliness is appreciated
in every single kitchen that I 

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know. 
There's not a chef out there 

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that I know that doesn't like 
clean cooks. 

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Everyone likes clean cook. 
No one ever is going to tell 

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you, hey, you need to work 
dirtier. 

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It's the exact opposite. 
Then it's being responsible. 

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That means showing up on time, 
being where you're supposed to 

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be when you're supposed to be 
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when you're given directions. 
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best. 
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it's just an expression. 
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It's broken, OK, it's it's an 
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Anyway, we digress. 
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call me out on that expression, 
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You're right. 
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No chef likes to give you 
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Chef, I forgot. 
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It's one of the most important 
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pen and a notebook. 
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And this is a balancing act. 
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that has 1000 questions at the 
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rail of tickets. 
Everyone's head down, go, go go.

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And you're trying to find out 
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Can you tell me how to do that? 
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conversation with these cooks. 
It's like social awareness. 

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You see everyone's head down, 
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You also be quiet, put your head
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But when the time is right, ask 
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answers and try to avoid asking 
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you need someone to expand on 
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And the reason I bring that up 
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question over and over again, 
people will get tired of telling

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you because they think you're 
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The next is don't be afraid of 
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The hard work is going to come 
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There, there's hard work in 
terms of you're on your feet all

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day, it's stressful. 
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terms of someone has to clean 
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someone has to work the grill 
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If you're new in the kitchen, 
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work the harder stations, but 
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cooler. 
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get social currency and social 
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person who cleans the cooler is 
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And then the last thing I'll say
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in the type of place that serves
a family meal, be the person 

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that brings the cooks and the 
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I think that's very underrated. 
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slammed. 
They're thirsty, they're on 

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their feet all day. 
It's a kitchen and here you come

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with waters for all the cooks. 
That goes a long way. 

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Social credit, right? 
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emotional bank account. 
You're depositing money in, the 

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emotional bank account with 
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family meal cook for people. 
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family meal in a lot of places 
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to be like super high end food. 
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they just want something 
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something from your home, 
something that you grew up 

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eating, something from your 
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This goes a long way 'cause you 
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nourishing, it's comforting, and
people could taste when food is 

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cooked with love, as they say. 
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culinary skills, those are some 
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But with all that being said, 
the fastest way to get social 

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credit in the kitchen is to be 
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Be fucking good on the line, be 
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The person who knows how to cook
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assuming that they're not a big 
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This is something else that I 
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I've touched on this. 
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operation, and in the operation,
the social credit might not be 

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where you're at the way that you
cook because maybe you work in a

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place that's very management 
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It's all about the paperwork and
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line and turning an inventory 
and answering emails and showing

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up to meetings. 
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social currency with other 
departments and other people 

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that work with you is managerial
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It's important that you 
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But it's also important to 
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community, you can't be standing
around a group of chefs and 

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think that you're going to be 
invited to the food and the 

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winemaker dinners and the 
private Chef Illuminati meetings

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because you run a good food cost
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That's where your social 
currency comes in as you need to

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be a good cook because outside 
of your four walls, they might 

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not give a shit what your food 
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As I often say, no one remembers
the person who answered all 

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their emails and ran a great 
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Reputation is made with the food
that you create, the people that

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you help mentor, how you impact 
how people eat, and how you 

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impact food systems in your 
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That's where the legacy is. 
So anyway, start developing your

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social currency in your own 
kitchen and you'll see how many 

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more doors open for you. 
For the person that's 

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questioning why they haven't 
been promoted or why you keep 

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getting passed over. 
Ask yourself that question. 

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Are you doing those things that 
we talked about and still 

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getting passed over? 
Now? 

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If you are, then you probably 
need to leave, but chances are 

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you're not doing everything that
you can do to get promoted. 

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So anyway, if you want to 
support the show, you know what 

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to do. 
Go to chefspsa.com. 

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You can get all the books 
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