1
00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,400
Hello chefs. 
Welcome to chefs. 

2
00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,700
PS a podcast. 
I'm your host on Trina. 

3
00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:05,800
Tara, on today's episode we're 
going to talk all about 

4
00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,200
ingredients. 
Stay tuned. 

5
00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400
So before we get into it, here's
a brief update on some things 

6
00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,900
that I was up to last week. 
I did an event. 

7
00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:26,700
It was called supper club. 
We did it. 

8
00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:28,600
Part of the Texas Food & Wine 
Alliance. 

9
00:00:29,100 --> 00:00:31,300
We were out on the field, 
everyone was cooking. 

10
00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:34,400
I was not one of the featured 
chefs but I kind of showed up 

11
00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,800
anyway to hang out, some Chef 
friends who were the featured 

12
00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,200
chefs and lend a hand in the 
kitchen. 

13
00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,500
Anyways good turnout yet chef 
Graham little Jacob Christian, 

14
00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:50,000
he's the chef of Garrison inside
the Fairmont, Austin would 

15
00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,700
birdie Richter from the emmer 
and regroup. 

16
00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:55,600
In this case, he was on the meat
course. 

17
00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,700
Michael photos a great chef here
in Austin from Olam a restaurant

18
00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,200
and Laura sawicki from oh say oh
Karen, Austin was on dessert. 

19
00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:06,600
Anyway, everyone got together 
was a great event part of the 

20
00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,900
Texas Food & Wine, a, lion's 
wine and dine series. 

21
00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:12,600
It was a good event to kick off 
and these events are fun. 

22
00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,200
So I know I'd I've talked about 
this before that. 

23
00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:16,800
You have an opportunity to go to
events. 

24
00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,600
You should sometimes the price 
that you pay is that you got to 

25
00:01:19,607 --> 00:01:21,900
clean up the mess. 
But nonetheless they're great 

26
00:01:21,900 --> 00:01:23,700
events. 
We had some volunteer students 

27
00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:26,700
from the escoffier culinary 
school here so I was working 

28
00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:28,400
with some of them. 
I got to chat with them. 

29
00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,600
I enjoyed it so maybe they're 
watching right now. 

30
00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:37,600
I had fun good to meet you all. 
Anyway, we digress next weekend.

31
00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,900
I will be in Dallas at Jose 
restaurant cooking with several 

32
00:01:41,900 --> 00:01:44,200
other chefs. 
And Associate Canon has is the 

33
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:48,100
host at Jose restaurant. 
Rick Lopez from La condesa here 

34
00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:53,100
in Austin, Texas, Philip Speer 
from Commodore myself from 

35
00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:57,100
ships, PSA retired. 
Getting together to do another 

36
00:01:57,100 --> 00:01:59,400
Supper Club, go get tickets. 
If you happen to be in Dallas, 

37
00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,600
reach out, if you want to do a 
cigar Sunday from Dallas, it'd 

38
00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,200
be fun to meet up with some of 
the Dow Chef Community. 

39
00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,900
While we're out there finally 
finished with all the books. 

40
00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:12,200
So all the books are available 
in all formats, including audio 

41
00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,500
book. 
Well, not exactly the audiobooks

42
00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:17,000
are done during the approval 
process so that should get 

43
00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:18,800
approved any day. 
Now, typically it takes 10 

44
00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:24,500
business days and one is 
actually taken Almost 20 

45
00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:27,100
business days to get approved. 
It's the kitchen Art of War. 

46
00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:28,300
The audiobook, I had to redo 
that. 

47
00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:30,100
I think I explained that another
episode. 

48
00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:34,400
But the bad sooo good. 
Chef audiobook will also be 

49
00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,400
available here in the next few 
days. 

50
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,900
I'll make sure I announced it on
Chefs PSA social channels. 

51
00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,700
The audio book is interesting so
I know I've talked about this a 

52
00:02:42,708 --> 00:02:45,600
little bit before. 
The audiobook is a conversation 

53
00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,000
between two chefs, so it's a 
mentor and a mentee and it's 

54
00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,600
basically to answer all the 
questions surrounding all the 

55
00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,400
fears that a chef would have 
when they become a sous chef. 

56
00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,700
So, if you're moving from 
culinarian cook to Sushi, Chef, 

57
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,900
you probably have a lot of 
things going through your mind. 

58
00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:04,700
Like what are my friends going 
to think of me? 

59
00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,300
How do I hold people 
accountable? 

60
00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:11,000
How do I become a great chef? 
All these little doubts are 

61
00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,500
going to creep in your mind. 
And this book is a conversation 

62
00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:17,600
between a mentor and a new Chef 
to teach them. 

63
00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:22,000
How to go from bad sous-chef to 
good sous-chef. 

64
00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,900
Anyway that's that's the if you 
guys didn't get the title but 

65
00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:30,400
that's the play on words there. 
But the interesting thing about 

66
00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,300
the audiobook is, you know, the 
narrator had fun with the voice 

67
00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,000
characters and it sounds like, 
like, Teenage Mutant Ninja 

68
00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800
Turtles like Master Splinter 
talking with, you know, young 

69
00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,000
Ninja Turtle Apprentice. 
Anyway, it's fun. 

70
00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,600
I enjoyed it. 
I think it's I think it's 

71
00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,300
entertaining it's going to 
probably be one of the more 

72
00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:49,600
entertaining. 
Any audio books that I've done? 

73
00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,700
Like I said this book is in the 
most different style from the 

74
00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:57,200
other books in The Chef's PSA 
series, a lot of people have 

75
00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,700
told me, they really enjoyed it.
People have told me they've 

76
00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:02,100
cried after completing this 
book. 

77
00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:04,500
This is the only book that I've 
made people cry. 

78
00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:07,600
And so that's like the true 
test. 

79
00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,000
If, if it pulled your 
heartstrings, and it made you 

80
00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,300
cry, then I was a good book 
anyway. 

81
00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:12,600
I don't want to give away the 
book. 

82
00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,900
You should go get it. 
I've also I talked about this 

83
00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:20,300
last week, my website went down 
and I had to rebuild it so 

84
00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:23,000
chefs. 
PS a.com is redesigned 

85
00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,000
brand-new, I organized it. 
So it's much more easy to 

86
00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,700
navigate. 
There's the homepage, which kind

87
00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:31,500
of tells you everything that I 
do the podcast page, which 

88
00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:33,800
obviously is about podcasting 
the about. 

89
00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:36,400
There's a page just dedicated to
the books that I've written, 

90
00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,600
including the ebooks that are 
available for free on gumroad. 

91
00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,900
You should go get those, they're
free. 

92
00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000
Go get them. 
What, why wouldn't you and then 

93
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,100
a mentoring page for people? 
I keep asking me about the 

94
00:04:45,108 --> 00:04:48,700
mentorship program, I am on a 
weight for people that are 

95
00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:51,000
interested in mentoring. 
I've taken on a little bit too 

96
00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,400
many mentees so there is a 
little bit of a waiting list, 

97
00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,300
but for those of you that are 
interested in the mentorship 

98
00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:59,700
program, you could email me on 
the website and you could get 

99
00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:03,400
added to the waiting list if you
are interested on to today's 

100
00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,400
subject ingredients now. 
I got to tell you when it comes 

101
00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,200
to ingredients. 
I've done a couple of chefs PSAs

102
00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,600
on this, and I'm just kind of 
sticking my toe in the water, 

103
00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,500
but I'm not sure if it's really,
making sense and resonating with

104
00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:19,400
everyone. 
Now, for the most part on Chefs,

105
00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,900
PSA, I usually cover the do's 
and don'ts good habits, 

106
00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:25,400
leadership best practices in the
kitchen, but I don't often talk 

107
00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:31,800
about cooking specifically just 
because It's difficult to 

108
00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,700
articulate food thoughts for 
people to learn without actually

109
00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:39,400
seeing it and quite honestly, 
I'm not really going to get into

110
00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,800
cooking videos because it's a 
big upfront investment for what 

111
00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,200
like 400 people to watch it. 
I'm alright you all can watch 

112
00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,400
someone else teach you how to 
clean an artichoke. 

113
00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,300
But the point being is that 
there's a couple of PSAs that 

114
00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:58,700
I've done one, and that is, if 
you want to be a better, Chef 

115
00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:03,100
use better ingredients, you 
instantly transform your food. 

116
00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:07,500
And take it to the next level if
you're using better ingredients.

117
00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,700
Now, this is something that's 
highly misunderstood with a lot 

118
00:06:10,700 --> 00:06:13,000
of cooks because they think when
you get the ingredients you have

119
00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,100
to do more to them for them to 
shine. 

120
00:06:15,300 --> 00:06:18,500
And the reality is you probably 
need to do less to really good 

121
00:06:18,500 --> 00:06:22,100
ingredients and you need to do 
more to ingredients that are not

122
00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:26,000
that good when a tomato is 
absolutely perfect in season, 

123
00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,400
right? 
You could probably just drizzle 

124
00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,100
it with a little bit of olive 
oil and some good salt and it's 

125
00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:33,800
going to be amazing when the 
tomato is out of season. 

126
00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,400
It's a little under ripe. 
You bought it in bulk. 

127
00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:41,500
You probably have to do a lot 
more to that tomato to make it 

128
00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:43,500
taste good, right? 
A lot of people say, all these 

129
00:06:43,500 --> 00:06:46,900
Tomatoes suck or maybe they 
don't like this specific dishes,

130
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,500
has usually to do with the 
ingredients. 

131
00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800
Good ingredients. 
You don't have to do much to 

132
00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,700
another thing that I've talked 
about, is, if you want to 

133
00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:57,400
understand food, better, plant a
garden now, I used to have a 

134
00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,600
garden and it was on the rooftop
and we used to plant all sorts 

135
00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,800
of things for herbs. 
Strawberries Tomatoes squash has

136
00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,900
cruciferous vegetables. 
I had a couple of trees out of 

137
00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:12,100
Bailey. 
Tread of fig tree. 

138
00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:15,200
I had mustard growing anyway. 
What you start to understand 

139
00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,100
when you grow food is that you 
understand when it's right? 

140
00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:21,700
When it's under right? 
When it's perfectly on, right? 

141
00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,200
You understand that things, 
sometimes have multiple Seasons,

142
00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,600
so maybe they bloom once and 
then they go away and they 

143
00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,500
produce fruit and then they 
produce fruit again. 

144
00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:36,100
I learned that about a fig tree 
so I had figs in the spring and 

145
00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:38,500
then I had figs in the late 
summer and I thought that was 

146
00:07:38,500 --> 00:07:40,300
interesting. 
I didn't realize figs. 

147
00:07:40,300 --> 00:07:42,600
Did that twice when I grew 
watermelon? 

148
00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:47,000
For example, everyone thinks a 
watermelon as a summer fruit. 

149
00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,900
When I grew watermelon, late 
September, it was absolutely 

150
00:07:50,900 --> 00:07:53,600
perfect. 
But it was short-lived Those 

151
00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,600
only for like 30 days at the 
watermelon was good and then 

152
00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,000
after that it wasn't so good. 
Seen herbs, when they go to 

153
00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,800
bloom and knowing that you got a
manicure them and take care of 

154
00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,000
them. 
There's a certain way to cut 

155
00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,700
your herbs, understanding, when 
several groups of fruit and 

156
00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:12,300
vegetables come in season 
together that you probably want 

157
00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:15,900
to group those together. 
You could learn a lot about just

158
00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:18,400
paying attention to Nature and I
could really geek out on this 

159
00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:24,900
and get into it like I used to 
have thoughts like okay you 

160
00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:27,600
should pair things together with
how they grow together. 

161
00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:33,900
So, If all things grow on vines 
and they probably taste good and

162
00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:35,799
then you can look at like 
inverse color. 

163
00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:39,400
So something red might pair well
with something green. 

164
00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,200
So, classic example is basil and
tomatoes, right? 

165
00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:45,900
Both of them are extremely 
beautiful in the summer. 

166
00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,500
Hence white, it is a classic 
pairing. 

167
00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:51,400
You look at something like 
sushi. 

168
00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,600
Fish are underwater typically, 
they're the third stage of 

169
00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,000
sunlight, same thing with the 
seaweed the Nori that goes with 

170
00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,800
it third. 
Stage of sunlight. 

171
00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:05,500
You pair that with Wasabi a 
rhizome grows in the dark 

172
00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:07,700
underground. 
Third stage of sunlight, you 

173
00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:09,200
pair those together, you have a 
classic combination. 

174
00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,700
So, when you start to pay 
attention, how people put 

175
00:09:11,700 --> 00:09:16,400
together food and flavors that 
work together, you start to see 

176
00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,500
the combinations and your mind 
really starts to run with them 

177
00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:23,000
your creativity. 
You'll understand as they say, 

178
00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,300
when it grows together goes 
together, things that are in 

179
00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:29,800
season go together, Etc, but a 
lot of chefs discount the fact 

180
00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,000
that having good This is like a 
superpower. 

181
00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:37,800
When I was in California. 
One of my very first trips, I 

182
00:09:37,808 --> 00:09:40,100
was in San Francisco and we were
at the farmers market. 

183
00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:42,600
I'll know I'll never forget this
because I was coming from Texas,

184
00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,900
moving to California and we're 
walking down the farmers market.

185
00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:49,200
And there's this farmer selling 
grapes and one of my chef 

186
00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,600
friends that I was with went and
tried the grape at the person 

187
00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,100
was like do you want to try? 
Grapes was like I'm alright I've

188
00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:57,400
had grapes before. 
So my friend tried the grape, 

189
00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,800
you know, to placate them 
whatever. 

190
00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,200
And my friend was like, you need
to try this great and I'm like, 

191
00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,200
I'm okay, I've had a great 
before and he's like, no, you 

192
00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,300
really need to try this great. 
I was like, man. 

193
00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:10,500
I'm alright because like just 
try the great fine. 

194
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,100
So I tried the grape and I was 
like, oh shit, that's a really 

195
00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:18,900
good great. 
And I'll never forget, because 

196
00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:22,600
it was like a grape times 10. 
It was like, it was almost like 

197
00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:23,900
great bubble gum. 
I couldn't explain. 

198
00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:27,000
It was like, it was a grape that
tasted like what you imagined a 

199
00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,500
great should taste like, but not
what? 

200
00:10:28,500 --> 00:10:30,700
Grapes. 
Usually tastes like and it 

201
00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:33,100
piqued my interest. 
So then I started really trying 

202
00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:35,600
the food and and they're at the 
farmers market. 

203
00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,300
And what you discovered was that
what they were selling Had a 

204
00:10:40,308 --> 00:10:43,600
completely different flavor 
profile than what I was used to.

205
00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,400
So then, when I became a chef in
California, I remember we were 

206
00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,800
getting produce deliveries and I
was talking to my sous chef at 

207
00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,700
the time and he was really upset
at the quality of yellow squash 

208
00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:57,500
that we had received. 
And he was like, oh, these are 

209
00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:58,600
crap. 
I'm going to send him back. 

210
00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,700
And I remember looking at the 
squash I was like, these might 

211
00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:03,500
be the most beautiful I've ever 
seen. 

212
00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:05,600
He's like, no, these are shit. 
These are like number 2's over 

213
00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,000
here. 
Now, what was the number two 

214
00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,700
would have been like a number 1 
+ + where I was coming from and 

215
00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:13,200
I'd it was like one of these 
moments. 

216
00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,500
Like you really saw how the 
quality of ingredients made such

217
00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:20,400
a big difference, and this was 
like a pivotal learning point, 

218
00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,700
like every now and again people 
talk about growth spurts that 

219
00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:26,300
they have and their career. 
This was a growth spurt that I 

220
00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:29,000
had in my career to really 
appreciate ingredients and 

221
00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,200
understand, there's levels to 
this game when it comes to good 

222
00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,700
quality ingredients and farmers 
and Artisans that can create 

223
00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:40,600
exceptional product, really? 
You can't compete with So, an 

224
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,400
argument could be made by a chef
that says I can reduce my labor 

225
00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,100
cost by having better 
ingredients because it requires 

226
00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:53,100
less manipulation to get to the 
end product. 

227
00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:55,300
All these things are very 
important when it comes to 

228
00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:58,300
creating delicious food. 
What I would think about growth 

229
00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:02,200
spurts that I've had as a chef, 
I could think about different 

230
00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,000
ingredients that Have given me 
challenges or have challenged me

231
00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,900
as a chef you know early on when
you're first learning how to 

232
00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:13,400
cook in your in culinary school.
Or you get your first couple of 

233
00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,400
restaurant jobs, it's a lot of 
the same repetition. 

234
00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,900
It's potatoes, it's tomatoes, 
onions, garlic shallots, and you

235
00:12:20,900 --> 00:12:24,400
get really good at working with 
these vegetables and fruits then

236
00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,600
all of a sudden you get 
introduced like I said you kind 

237
00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,400
of level up and you get 
introduced to new things so 

238
00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,700
maybe these are mushrooms. 
And when I first started working

239
00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:35,300
with shiitake mushrooms, I'd 
never worked with shiitake 

240
00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:37,300
mushrooms. 
Before I was a green Cooks out, 

241
00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:40,600
cook them and I ate one. 
I was like, this is fucking 

242
00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:41,800
disgusting. 
I didn't like it. 

243
00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,900
I was like so chewy and Woody 
and dense. 

244
00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:46,800
And then someone came up to me, 
like you got to remove the stem.

245
00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:48,900
You don't eat the stem of the 
shiitake mushrooms. 

246
00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:53,000
I didn't know that all of a 
sudden understanding that you 

247
00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,000
can't treat a shiitake mushroom.
Like every other mushroom. 

248
00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,400
I needed to remove the stem 
because it didn't taste I could 

249
00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:05,200
have had another use for it, but
not How we were serving at that 

250
00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,400
time. 
When I first worked with fava 

251
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,500
beans fresh fava beans, I had 
never worked with fava beans 

252
00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:15,800
before, and I remember at peeled
them, the first year out of the,

253
00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,500
under the husk. 
And the person next to me, kind 

254
00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:21,500
of cracked a joke because I 
didn't know what I was doing, 

255
00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:24,400
fava beans, I didn't realize you
had to peel them a second time 

256
00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:26,200
because I thought they were good
to go. 

257
00:13:27,700 --> 00:13:30,400
And again, like I said, you're 
leveling up in complexity when 

258
00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,400
you start introducing different 
ingredients to your skill set, 

259
00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:34,800
knowing how to work with fava 
beans. 

260
00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,800
All you got to, you got to shock
them once and then you have to 

261
00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,800
shuck them again. 
Now a lot of people will tell 

262
00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,700
you there's a lot of different 
ways. 

263
00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,000
Maybe you blanch them prior 
maybe you don't blanch them, 

264
00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600
prior doesn't matter? 
That's your choice, individual. 

265
00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,300
Kitchens are going to have 
different opinions on it, but in

266
00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:56,600
my case where I was the chef, we
would blanch them and then shuck

267
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,400
them the second time. 
And then it's, it's these things

268
00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,100
that are important. 
Like when you're creating, if 

269
00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:05,500
you're doing big pot, blanching 
as they say, the water needs to 

270
00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:07,500
be salty, and it should taste 
like the ocean. 

271
00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,200
Well, how do you know that we 
you taste the water, right? 

272
00:14:11,300 --> 00:14:13,700
You taste the water and you make
sure it tastes like the ocean. 

273
00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:16,200
A lot of people would say to me.
Well, how do you know when the 

274
00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,500
water is salty enough as it 
will? 

275
00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,200
Did you? 
Did you taste your pasta water? 

276
00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:20,700
Did you taste your blanching 
water? 

277
00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,800
No, I didn't. 
Well then how do you know if 

278
00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,100
it's salty enough? 
It's part of a chef's 

279
00:14:27,100 --> 00:14:29,100
understanding of things to taste
everything. 

280
00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:31,200
When you go down the line, you 
taste everything, but that 

281
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,700
includes the pasta water when 
you're setting it up for cooking

282
00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:36,700
pasta. 
Blanching green vegetables. 

283
00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:40,100
Whatever the case may be I'll 
never forget when I first was 

284
00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:42,500
introduced to artichokes. 
There's this video right now. 

285
00:14:42,500 --> 00:14:46,200
Going around Instagram for this 
guy is like with a knife 

286
00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,600
cleaning an artichoke like I 
don't know like in 20 seconds or

287
00:14:48,608 --> 00:14:50,600
whatever and then he gets a 
spoon and then he carves out the

288
00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,600
choke and like how fucking sharp
is that spoon. 

289
00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,100
He just he just pulls it out 
like butter or how soft is the 

290
00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:01,500
artichoke one way or the other. 
Anyway, he just does like a 

291
00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:05,200
pristine job with the artichoke 
and artichokes is one. 

292
00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:07,600
Of those ingredients that trips 
a lot of chefs up because you 

293
00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,600
don't work with it. 
You go through your career and 

294
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,800
you may have only worked with 
artichokes out of a can. 

295
00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:14,100
And then all of a sudden someone
gives you a fresh artichoke 

296
00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:15,400
here. 
Like what the hell is this 

297
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,800
thing? 
It's so large and it's thorny 

298
00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,500
and then you start clean as like
what's going on here. 

299
00:15:20,700 --> 00:15:22,200
There's a lot of different ways 
to do it than it starts 

300
00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,700
oxidizing. 
When I used to do cooking 

301
00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:27,700
interviews for executive chefs 
or any position really in the 

302
00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:29,200
kitchen. 
I always give them an artichoke 

303
00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,100
so I'd give them a couple of 
different things. 

304
00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:32,700
A whole chicken, a whole 
lobster. 

305
00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:35,500
A whole fish, and a whole 
artichoke and say you do 

306
00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:36,900
whatever you want. 
I just want to see you, 

307
00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,900
fabricate, these and then use 
them in a dish. 

308
00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:43,700
And the artichoke was usually 
the one that would throw 

309
00:15:43,700 --> 00:15:46,600
everyone off and I'm talking 
about like executive chefs shut 

310
00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,400
the Cuisines. 
Did it matter what position you 

311
00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,900
were in the artichoke was always
the Achilles heel for most 

312
00:15:51,900 --> 00:15:56,300
chefs. 
I've had chefs be like, oh, 

313
00:15:56,500 --> 00:15:58,500
sometimes I would give them like
a Comey Helper and they would 

314
00:15:58,500 --> 00:16:00,700
like, give their artichoke to 
the Comey like, hey, can you do 

315
00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:01,800
this? 
Because I'm really busy, right? 

316
00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:02,900
It's like it's not that they're 
busy. 

317
00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:05,300
I just they don't know how to 
clean an artichoke. 

318
00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:09,000
I had one Chef one time. 
Executive. 

319
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,500
Chef tasting candidate won't say
who Honestly, I don't remember 

320
00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,900
the guys name, so I guess it 
doesn't matter, but he was 

321
00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:18,300
interviewing for an executive 
chef position, and I was hiring 

322
00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:19,500
him and I gave him the 
artichoke. 

323
00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:23,900
And as he cleaned it, when he 
was done with his dish inside 

324
00:16:23,900 --> 00:16:25,600
the artichoke is what they call 
the choke. 

325
00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,400
And they're very thorny 
thistles. 

326
00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,900
And he garnished his dish with 
the choke. 

327
00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:38,600
And I just remember asking him 
like have you ever eaten that 

328
00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,100
and he's like no I just thought 
it looked pretty. 

329
00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:43,600
I was like well you know there's
a reason it's called an 

330
00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,100
artichoke, right? 
He didn't know, you'd never 

331
00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:48,800
worked with an artichoke. 
So it's one of those things you 

332
00:16:48,808 --> 00:16:50,400
have to expose yourself to any 
ingredients. 

333
00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,400
You can learn these little 
lessons and little Nuance that 

334
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,300
goes with cooking different 
ingredients. 

335
00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:01,000
We're talking about mushrooms 
and I did a chef PSA on this on 

336
00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,400
a two days ago. 
About cleaning the grit out of 

337
00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,200
your morel mushrooms. 
Now, when I first worked with 

338
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,599
morels, I'd never worked. 
Then we got the dried kind, so 

339
00:17:10,599 --> 00:17:14,300
we had to rehydrate them in warm
water and then we strain the 

340
00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:16,599
water and turn that into like a 
mushroom stock or something like

341
00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:18,099
that. 
But then, eventually you 

342
00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:20,300
graduate to the fresh morals and
you don't know. 

343
00:17:20,300 --> 00:17:23,099
Like there's sometimes, there's 
little creatures living in those

344
00:17:23,099 --> 00:17:25,000
things. 
And you gotta soak them to pull 

345
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,500
them out. 
So the way I would do it, as I 

346
00:17:27,508 --> 00:17:30,500
would soak my morals in a couple
of changes of clean water and 

347
00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:33,500
you lift them out gently. 
So all all the grit and sand 

348
00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:38,200
kind of stays on the bottom. 
Until the water is clean, after 

349
00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,900
about three changes, then I 
would lay them out on a, on a 

350
00:17:41,908 --> 00:17:45,400
small tray with like a, either 
Serbia at or some towels. 

351
00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,700
So, they dry and then we'd use 
them there. 

352
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:51,400
Someone commented on Chefs, PSA.
So I apologize. 

353
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,300
I remember who commented so this
for you, they said to put a 

354
00:17:54,308 --> 00:17:57,200
couple of drops of vinegar in 
the water when you're soaking 

355
00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,500
were also want more. 
My thoughts on that, except I've

356
00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:01,600
never done it. 
So I don't know what would 

357
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,500
happen? 
It sounds like in theory that 

358
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,400
would help with the cleaning. 
The morels, but I really don't 

359
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,200
know. 
But understanding when you're 

360
00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,800
working with different 
ingredients. 

361
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,500
So like morels or like truffles 
like People that don't know this

362
00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:17,700
if you don't work with truffles,
what's the number one rule? 

363
00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:23,700
When the Truffle person comes in
You way the fucking truffles if 

364
00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:26,100
you bought a pound of truffles, 
when the Truffle guy shows up, 

365
00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,400
you pull out a scale and you 
weigh, you make sure that you 

366
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:32,400
have a pound of truffles. 
Like that is truffle 101 and 

367
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,200
then you check them, you make 
sure that they're not slimy. 

368
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,900
I've had, I've had vendors come 
in and try and Pawn off, slimy 

369
00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:41,300
truffles. 
But if you don't know what 

370
00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:44,500
you're looking for, you're going
to end up with a bad product. 

371
00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:48,400
So understanding, and having 
experience with a variety of 

372
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,000
ingredients is very important. 
Like they say when you slice the

373
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,800
Truffle and half it should 
almost look like wag you write 

374
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,900
with all the striations of white
throughout the Truffle. 

375
00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:03,100
That's that's usually the 
indicator of a good truffle or 

376
00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:05,500
like matsutake mushrooms. 
Anyway, we could get into the 

377
00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:08,500
creatures that are living in 
matsutakes or tuna or whatever 

378
00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:11,800
but understanding How to inspect
food when it comes in as 

379
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,500
important. 
And sometimes it's just the 

380
00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:17,800
littlest thing. 
A big mistake that I think is 

381
00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,200
pretty common that. 
I notice it a lot of new cooks 

382
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,500
is just they don't know, right? 
Maybe because they haven't eaten

383
00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:26,700
the item. 
Or they just haven't worked a 

384
00:19:26,708 --> 00:19:29,300
lot with an item but like the 
little adductor muscle that's 

385
00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:32,100
attached to the scalp knowing 
that you should remove that 

386
00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:35,700
before you cooked the scallop. 
A lot of people don't do that. 

387
00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:40,300
Usually because they don't know,
prosciutto is another one to 

388
00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:43,200
remove the hard skin before you 
slice it or salami and you got 

389
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,400
to peel it sometimes. 
A lot of people just serve that 

390
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,200
prosciutto with the exterior 
skin on. 

391
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,700
It's like you can't eat that 
someone's going to choke. 

392
00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,200
But again, these are things that
when you're in experience with 

393
00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,600
food until you start exposing 
yourself to a multitude of 

394
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,700
ingredients, you just may not 
know in addition to transforming

395
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,000
the ingredient to refine them, 
to a level where they become 

396
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,700
more beautiful. 
That's really, what is a big 

397
00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,900
secret of fine dining? 
It's that they refined something

398
00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,000
to the point of perfection. 
Ian and Excellence or at least 

399
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,100
close to it right to the idea of
perfection. 

400
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,000
It's peeling Tomatoes, The 
Little cherry tomatoes, making 

401
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,400
sure that they're the perfect 
tomato, and then removing the 

402
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,600
Skins, to make sure that they're
easier to chew through or easier

403
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,800
to digest. 
That's a level of refinement 

404
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,800
that you see. 
In high-end restaurants, it adds

405
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,700
a different texture to a tomato 
dish if they're peeled versus 

406
00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:40,600
unpeeled. 
And then you have to question, 

407
00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,900
how are you going to peel them? 
Are you going to blanch them 

408
00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:47,500
first? 
Concourse a style or do you peel

409
00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,700
them from raw, much more 
difficult? 

410
00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:56,700
But leads to a better texture. 
So food, for thought things that

411
00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:58,900
you have to consider when you're
creating dishes, more 

412
00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,200
labor-intensive, better end 
product. 

413
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,100
Then there's the considerations 
of extending shelf life so you 

414
00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:07,400
could compress things. 
So I used to compress 

415
00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:10,900
microgreens often so in ice 
water so they could hold longer.

416
00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:14,000
A lot of people just put micro 
greens or garnishing, herbs, and

417
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,200
Ice Waters with a crisp up, 
great tactic. 

418
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,500
You could also, if you have a 
cryovac machine, you could 

419
00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:22,200
compress those so they last 
longer But then you could even 

420
00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:26,100
go further, maybe you could 
compress lettuces, maybe you're 

421
00:21:26,100 --> 00:21:29,400
doing garnishes with hearts of 
Romaine. 

422
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,600
You could compress your 
cucumbers in ice water and it 

423
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,100
completely changes the look of 
them. 

424
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:40,000
There's also compression without
Ice water and maybe your 

425
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,000
infusing flavors. 
So maybe you're adding a little 

426
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,100
bit of a brine or a marinade or 
something to something that 

427
00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:48,100
might not be as good. 
Sometimes your peaches aren't so

428
00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:51,100
great so you might need to 
infuse a little simple syrup and

429
00:21:51,100 --> 00:21:52,400
compress them to make them 
better. 

430
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,600
Peaches are one of those like it
could be peach season in the 

431
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,600
peaches are shit. 
Especially in Texas. 

432
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaking of peaches, you know, 
again I was I was talking with 

433
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,000
some of the other day. 
It's like they had no idea that 

434
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,800
the stone inside, the peach, you
crack that open. 

435
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,100
There's like a little almond to 
I don't know what it's 

436
00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,300
technically called, which is 
like a little almond inside the 

437
00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:16,300
peach pit and that is like the 
that's like the cyanide, the 

438
00:22:16,308 --> 00:22:21,900
B-17 amygdalin flavor, what they
usually have for almond extract 

439
00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:23,400
flavor that usually comes from 
peaches. 

440
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,200
So but it's like, it looks just 
like an almond careful. 

441
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,200
Don't go out and eat that 
because it is poisonous. 

442
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,600
So, It's my warning, do not eat 
that, but it's again just 

443
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,800
exploring food to its fullest 
potential. 

444
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,800
And after you've worked with 
different types of ingredients 

445
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,000
and you understand produce is, 
you could learn so much from 

446
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:46,200
produce and you have your 
cooking methods and you have a 

447
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,300
firm understanding of different 
ingredients and how to 

448
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:53,500
manipulate those ingredients, 
that's really where high-level 

449
00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:55,500
cooking comes in. 
It's not always about just 

450
00:22:55,500 --> 00:22:58,300
adding everything to a pan with 
some oil and tossing it and put 

451
00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,300
it on a plate. 
Times there's a level of 

452
00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:03,100
refinement that comes into 
preparation. 

453
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,900
Anyway, this was a food episode.
Hopefully, you could take away 

454
00:23:06,900 --> 00:23:10,400
some good tips or at least maybe
I'd piqued your interest in 

455
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,800
exploring food and different 
ingredients to learn from. 

456
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,000
Maybe haven't worked with an 
artichoke. 

457
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,300
Go work with artichokes, it's on
the culinary decathlon. 

458
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,700
Anyway, that's it for today. 
If you want to support the show,

459
00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:24,800
if you're watching on YouTube, 
make sure you leave a thumbs up.

460
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:28,800
Subscribe to my YouTube page. 
Someone asked me to put up a 

461
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,400
video. 
On my morning routine so that is

462
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,000
now live only on YouTube. 
I'm not going to do a podcast on

463
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,400
it, it has really nothing to do 
with Chef stuff but for those of

464
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,700
you curious, I did put that up 
on my YouTube page. 

465
00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:43,200
Go follow on, all social 
accounts Tick, Tock Twitter 

466
00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:46,100
Instagram. 
Make sure you leave five stars 

467
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,500
and if you want some of the 
books go to chefs PS a.com newly

468
00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,500
revamped looks good. 
I like I built the site Myself 

469
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:56,800
by the way. 
I mean people's like might want 

470
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,800
to hire me to be their web 
designer pretty soon. 

471
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,900
Anyway, thank you very much. 
See you next week, hit the porno

472
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:03,400
music.
