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Hello chefs. 
You're listening to chefs. 

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PS a podcast. 
I'm your host on Trina. 

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Tara on today's episode we're 
going to do Q&A. 

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Stay tuned. 
So first, a quick update, what 

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have I been up to? 
I'll tell you what, the first 

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thing I'd like to talk about is 
I have a newsletter and I've 

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sent out so far two volumes of 
the newsletter. 

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I plan on sending out a new one,
every Wednesday approximately. 

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So if you're interested in 
receiving the newsletter, go to 

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chefs, PS a.com. 
Go to the contact page and 

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scroll to the bottom and you 
should see a spot where you can 

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sign up for the newsletter. 
I plan on doing this 

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consistently. 
It will most likely like all 

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things evolve as I figure it 
out. 

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I appreciate feedback. 
If you've received Received the 

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news letter, let me know what 
you think, but I want to keep it

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short Punchy to the point, you 
know, something four chefs 

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involving leadership something 
for everyone that works in a 

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kitchen and maybe something 
curious that I'm doing at the 

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moment. 
Speaking of something curious, 

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some interesting things that 
going on this week. 

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I don't know if everyone saw the
Bocuse to your, it was an 

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incredible competition. 
I'm bummed the United States did

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not win. 
I was all Team USA but 

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nonetheless, if you had a chance
to check, It out. 

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I'd love to know what you think.
I'm a big fan of watching those 

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culinary competitions. 
You get to see skill at the 

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highest level and 
congratulations to Denmark on 

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winning first place. 
They did an incredible job. 

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Anyway, the other thing that I'm
doing is I started reading 

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unreasonable Hospitality by will
get Dara and I gotta say it's a 

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great book. 
If you haven't read it I think 

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you should. 
It's really a lot of the things 

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that I believe in you. 
He talks a lot about culture and

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building a culture and 
Leadership and empowering as 

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people and and how to build a 
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So, a lot of the same things 
that I'm preaching, I think. 

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I haven't disagreed with 
anything so far in his book. 

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I think we use different 
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the point is always the same, 
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99% of the time. 
I'm going to agree with him on 

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what he's saying. 
So if it's a great book, if you 

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haven't had a chance to check it
out unreasonable Hospitality the

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new book by will gadara, I think
it's fantastic. 

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And then the James Beard 
semifinalist list came out here 

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in the United States. 
So for those of you that are 

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unaware, James Beard is a 
organization here in the US, 

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they put on an annual Chef 
Awards restaurant Awards, 

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anyway, Cool to see a lot of the
people on the list. 

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I know congratulations to a lot 
of my friends that are on there.

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Shout out to Junior Borgess who 
good friend of mine, who is on 

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the outstanding Chef list. 
My friends anastacio Quinones, 

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Rick Lopez for mean Nunez to 
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A lot of my Texas friends that 
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congratulations to all of you. 
Congratulations to all the 

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nominees. 
It'll be exciting to see who 

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wins. 
But anyway, enough about that. 

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Let's get into today's episode 
which is Q&A, and I got to say, 

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I got a lot of questions, a lot 
of the questions I've answered 

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before on other podcast. 
So I'm not going to get too much

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into things that I've already 
discussed previously, but I will

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try to get as many questions 
answered as I can if I can't get

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to all of them, then maybe this 
warrants apart to. 

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Let me know if you want to hear 
a second part to this and I can 

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answer more the questions. 
But anyway, let's get into the 

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first couple of questions. 
So the first question is, how do

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I as a young? 
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myself from the other Cooks. 
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sound, I would say care more a 
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If you want to get noticed you 
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and sometimes it's not cool to 
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have a flippant attitude in the 
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sometimes that doesn't work and 
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the people that you're trying to
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caring or I'll do more. 
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usually the type of Of person 
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kitchens. 
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but I would say what I would do 
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tremendously about what you're 
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you're producing care about, 
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Be a professional, be polite to 
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Listen, when people are talking 
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all those things gets you 
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get you noticed is when you just
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don't speak up. 
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background that person tends to 
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they do care a lot, but they're 
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So, being involved being engaged
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taking an active role in 
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not a leader. 
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what I mean. 
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down time, you take it upon 
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cooler. 
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that get you noticed. 
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That's what gets you noticed. 
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another episode. 
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episode. 
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people fail to realize, is the 
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you pay me more. 
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that says I'll do it regardless 
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for promotion comes up. 
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regardless will be the person 
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know as the person who's doing 
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gets tough, this person has 
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it. 
The other person is an unproven 

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Unknown commodity, will they do 
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When the time gets tough? 
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if you pay them. 
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person will do it, even if you 
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So if you are in a position to 
promote someone who are you 

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going to pick the person who 
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ask them to do it or the person 
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them more. 
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it's a no-brainer who you're 
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A lot of people might not 
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I know I To a lot of people, you
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you know, pay me more and I'll 
do more, those people, struggle 

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getting promoted. 
I could tell you with 100% 

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certainty. 
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telling you, you have to 
demonstrate that you are willing

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to do more than everyone else on
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Because the person that's 
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else on the team and cares. 
More is the person that gets 

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promoted? 
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The next question I have here 
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to take a management position? 
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when you're ready. 
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You, so maybe your sous chef for
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come up to you and say, hey I 
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into growing into a bigger role.
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leadership capabilities, maybe 
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sometimes they'll come and tell 
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everyone else knows you're 
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you know. 
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ready and you just got to take 
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You got to just say, I'm going 
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swim. 
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might fail and you'll have to 
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and go back and figure out what 
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better. 
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try and a lot of times in our 
careers, we get stuck and we're 

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paralyzed with fear because 
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we hesitate and you can't do 
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If you think you're ready, then 
try it, ask maybe you're not 

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ready, but maybe you still go up
to your Chef for your Mentor, or

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whoever and say, hey, I think 
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Like to be considered from this 
position and they might say 

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great, let's put you under they 
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Here's what you need to do which
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have something tangible that you
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work on this. 
I could go back and look at 

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these things that they said I 
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and prove that. 
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You might be ready. 
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one way to find out and that's 
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So there's not like a magic 
answer that says, this is how, 

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you know, because you could do 
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But the fact of the matter is 
You just got to try, you got to 

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let it be known that you're 
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You got to ask for it and 
sometimes you just got to lose 

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your fear and Jump Right In 
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The next question I have is what
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restaurant food or Ambiance? 
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difficult question to answer as 
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I'm always going to say food is 
more important, but if you don't

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have a great restaurant, that 
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a disconnected. 
It doesn't work out and I'll 

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tell you what, there's very 
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Both ends of the spectrum, 
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You could point to beautiful 
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that are very successful. 
They have a great Ambiance, the 

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music is great, the decor is 
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The vibe is just humming. 
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there giving the room energy, 
but the food is man, it's 

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nothing, nothing memorable. 
And those restaurants are some 

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of the best restaurants and 
they're the most profitable 

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restaurants around. 
However, there's also 

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restaurants on the other end of 
the spectrum, you know? 

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Just, you know, a very humble 
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truck. 
Whatever the case may be in the 

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middle of nowhere but people 
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food because the food is just 
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Something that comes to mind is 
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with light Decor, maybe just 
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know, plastic chairs but there's
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everyone wants to try the food 
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So an argument can be made 
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I think you need to have 
strength on one end or the other

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if if not both I mean obviously.
Lie in an ideal setting, you 

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want strong Ambiance, strong 
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If I could choose just one, I 
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choose food. 
I would probably choose food 

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because I'm a chef at heart, 
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So food, first. 
But the businessman in me, says,

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you know, I could have the most 
beautiful restaurant and good 

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service and the food could be, 
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And the restaurant will still be
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So I don't know. 
An argument could be made either

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way. 
It's a great question and it's 

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something that could be debated,
and I'm sure you could list tons

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of examples. 
Samples on both ends. 

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Beautiful restaurants that are 
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and vice versa. 
This is a good question, it's 

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kind of long. 
So I'm going to, I'm going to 

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shorten it. 
But the gist of the question is,

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how do you manage your culinary 
team? 

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When you don't get the support 
from ownership with regards to 

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the hours, in the pay to keep 
them and maybe they have to work

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off the clock and do some 
illegal and unethical things. 

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I think if you're in a situation
where you ever have to do 

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something illegal or unethical, 
you should stop because it's a 

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slippery. 
A slope and doing one thing then

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leads to two things. 
And before, you know, it your 

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way on the other side of the 
line, and you're doing all sorts

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of things that are unethical. 
I think you got to stop and 

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regroup, and I think you need to
have a conversation with your 

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owners and say if this is what 
you expect me to deliver. 

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I cannot deliver with these 
parameters that you've given me,

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and there has to be some form of
compromise on the so either. 

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You as the chef need to look in 
the mirror and say maybe the 

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food that I'm trying to produce 
So maybe I'm punching above my 

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weight with the resources that I
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Maybe my Cooks aren't skilled 
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Maybe maybe I'm putting some ego
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be there. 
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food into something, more simple
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because you shouldn't 
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The Integrity of yourself as a 
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things for the quality of food. 
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then you then you pull back a 
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right thing. 
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know, either, we adjust the food
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budge, then it's probably a 
situation where you need to walk

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away because you will end up 
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You're going to end up doing 
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to the restaurant to the owner, 
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unwilling to adjust the quality 
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give you more money to do it 
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you got to walk away and say 
this is just this is just not 

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right for me and most likely 
it's not going to end in a good 

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situation. 
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Very tough to answer without 
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specific restaurant and specific
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common thing that I've seen 
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to push very high on the food, 
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the resources to do it and 
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you and say, hey, we want more, 
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quality. 
Lower food, cost, etc, etc. 

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Ball and you as the chef need to
stand your ground and I'll tell 

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you a story when I was, I think 
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position and I was still very 
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some of the more senior 
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like that, and my boss pulled me
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said, hey you got to see it at 
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want you to have a voice. 
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with everything that we say, 
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any value. 
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your voice and you need to speak
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passionate about. 
That's why we pay you. 

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We pay you to lead in this 
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puppet then maybe maybe that's 
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a position to to be the expert, 
then be the expert and make sure

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you voice your concerns 
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draw a hard Line in the Sand on.
What's on what you're not 

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willing to compromise on. 
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very difficult to answer but 
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And I hope that shed some 
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it. 
This next question is, what 

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could I do to be more 
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culinary knowledge. 
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more in kitchens work around 
more professionals, work around 

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people that are better than you 
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knowledge. 
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to surround yourself with people
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yourself. 
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and I put a PSA upon this, the 
other day, if you are the best 

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cook in the kitchen, you might 
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Now, some people argue with me 
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leadership? 
If you're trying to develop your

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leadership skills. 
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leadership skills around better 
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Maybe you don't want to leave 
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at the end of the day, what's 
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career. 
So it's a tough decision. 

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Only, you can answer that. 
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the kitchen to quickest way is 
to routes, is to surround 

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yourself with people that are at
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skilled than you more 
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If you're the most knowledgeable
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that's good for your ego. 
Ego, but it's not good for your 

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growth. 
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just to fully immerse yourself 
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harder and harder time finding 
places where you are not to the 

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student anymore and you'll be 
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transitioned into, that teacher 
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So that would be hopefully, that
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simple way. 
This next question is when menu 

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planning? 
Do you start with an idea or do 

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you start with an ingredient? 
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so it's not so straightforward. 
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morels and asparagus and peas. 
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the ingredients and other times 
maybe I'm walking through an art

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gallery and I see a beautiful 
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me and so I get an idea for 
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So I would say it really Ali 
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There's not, there's not a set 
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get creative. 
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tip when it comes to getting 
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yourself in the idea of creative
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You know, go to museums spend 
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that are creative, go see 
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to get the creative juices in 
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flowing. 
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differently. 
There's a really good book that 

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I read long time ago. 
I'm see if I could remember the 

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title. 
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It was titled. 
How to think like Leonardo 

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DaVinci and that is just a book.
That's an exercise in 

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creativity. 
When you you know, obviously one

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of the most creative people to 
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they said things like the way he
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lay down on the floor and look 
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know, just he did everything to 
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Energy. 
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a reference, But to answer your 
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one-size-fits-all answer to 
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So whatever is working best for 
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That's giving you the best 
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right? 
So hope that helps. 

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The next question is, how can I 
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because all my peers keep 
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faster. 
No, I'm just kidding. 

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Really just got to cook more you
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But when you practice Practice 
really good technique and with 

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the idea that okay, how do I get
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Something I used to do is I 
would write down little goals 

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for myself. 
So let's just say, I was dicing 

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a case of tomatoes and I would 
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set the clock? 
Okay we did it in 30 minutes, 

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great tomorrow, let's try and 
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next day, you know, 27 minutes. 
So always be pushing yourself to

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just be a little bit more 
efficient, in whatever it is 

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that you're doing obviously with
repetition and practice you will

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get faster. 
Something I've I talked about 

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before, but I'll say it again 
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If this is the first time that 
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would go to the store and buy 
some inexpensive ingredients, 

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like a whole chicken, some 
potatoes, some onions and eggs, 

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I guess eggs aren't inexpensive 
these days with the price going 

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up. 
But anyway, I would get those 

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four things and you can make a 
lot of different things. 

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So, with your onions, you can 
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Julienne, brunoise, etc, etc. 
Dicing and slicing etcetera with

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your chicken you could practice 
trussing Roasting butchering 

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deboning, making stock. 
Like, you could practice so many

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things with that chicken 
brining, and so on, with your 

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potato, you could you could 
practice your torn. 

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Hey you could practice again, 
dicing brunoise julienne Etc. 

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You could also make mashed 
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and on and on and with eggs 
obviously you could learn all 

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your different styles of egg 
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Making omelets different styles 
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style, the European style, the 
French omelet, and on and on. 

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But with Those simple 
ingredients and they're 

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relatively inexpensive, you 
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like, okay, I'm going to buy a 
sack of potatoes and I'm going 

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to brunoise all the potatoes and
then you know, by the end of by 

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the end of that, I should be 
faster because you will have 

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repetition some reps under your 
belt. 

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I'll tell you a funny story is, 
you know, you, if you wanted to 

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learn how to brunoise, I had 
like, 50 cooks that I was 

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training on brunoise and that's 
all they do for like five hours,

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there was just brunoise and then
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make soup out of There was like,
so frustrated like wow, why do 

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you why do you do that with the 
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It was like, well, because we 
don't need it. 

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And this is, this is practice, 
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And I was so picky about the 
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be, this has to be this, but 
this was just training. 

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And then when we got into the 
real world application, their 

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knife skills were like, 
honestly, people would come up 

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to be like, damn, their knife 
skills are so good. 

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How do you, how are your Cooks 
knife skills? 

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So good. 
It's like, because they just 

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practiced it all day long for 
days on end and I guarantee He 

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you some of those Kooks right 
now that have worked with me 

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during that specific period, 
their knife skills are probably 

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better than most Chef 
instructors that are teaching 

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knife skills. 
That's how good they are. 

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So, anyway, the key to get 
better at anything is 

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repetition. 
If you want to get faster, like 

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I said, just practice make it a 
point to be aware of the time 

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and then also just repetition. 
The next question I have here 

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is, what does an aspiring Chef 
need to keep in mind during 

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their education? 
I would say this and I'll keep 

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this answer. 
It is that it doesn't matter how

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much you read or how much 
YouTube videos you watch or how 

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much Instagram you look at or 
how much vocabulary you have or 

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how well, you could explain, you
know, the process of 

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lacto-fermentation, none of that
matters. 

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The only thing that matters is, 
can you do it? 

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So I would say for an aspiring 
young Chef during your 

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education, remember, all of that
is Theory until you could do it.

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It doesn't matter that you have 
a very comprehensive vocabulary.

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You can talk about it all day. 
Great. 

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Can you do it? 
Oh, you can't. 

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Then it doesn't matter. 
So I would say keep that in 

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mind. 
No one is impressed with what 

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you say, if you can't do it in 
the kitchen. 

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So if you're on the line, it 
doesn't matter that, you know, 

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all the terminology and that you
went to the school and you have 

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this great degree. 
Okay. 

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Great. 
But can you do it? 

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No, then you don't know it, you 
don't truly know something until

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you can do it. 
You might know how to talk about

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it but you don't know. 
It fully this. 

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Next question is as a starter 
Chef who could not afford, 

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culinary education. 
What is your advice? 

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I would say just start working, 
find out what the best 

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restaurants are in your area and
just go apply, even if it's as a

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dishwasher, just get in those 
kitchens and let them know. 

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Even if you go in as a 
dishwasher, let them know. 

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I aspire to be a cook. 
I'll start in the dish station 

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and then when you see that, I'm 
ready and you see that. 

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I'm a hard worker. 
Will you move me up? 

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And if they don't move you up 
after a certain amount of time, 

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then you do you need to leave. 
But just getting into kitchens 

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getting into good kitchens as 
the key and surrounding 

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yourself. 
As I said before, with great 

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chefs, as probably the best 
education you could get 

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culinary. 
School is great and I'm not 

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knocking it. 
I've gone to culinary school and

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it gives you a formal education,
but it's just Theory getting in 

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and being able to do it is like 
I just said, more important than

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the theory. 
So, actual knowledge is more 

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important. 
The next question is, which chef

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would you rather hire a culinary
school Chef or an entrepreneur 

449
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,500
experienced Chef? 
I think it really depends on the

450
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,900
position. 
Sometimes for an entry-level 

451
00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:18,100
position, I don't want a super 
experienced Chef because they 

452
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:19,300
might get discouraged in the 
end. 

453
00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,600
Level and sometimes four 
sometimes even for an 

454
00:22:22,608 --> 00:22:24,700
experienced position. 
I'd rather have someone 

455
00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:28,200
inexperienced because I want to 
teach them how I want it to be 

456
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,500
done. 
Sometimes your education can be 

457
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:32,900
a detriment and I'll tell you 
what I mean. 

458
00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:35,700
So let's say you've worked ten 
years in a certain type of 

459
00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:38,900
restaurant and I'm running a 
different type of restaurant and

460
00:22:38,908 --> 00:22:41,700
then you come to my restaurant 
and you say, hey I want to be 

461
00:22:41,700 --> 00:22:43,800
the sous chef here because I 
have 10 years experience, and I 

462
00:22:43,808 --> 00:22:46,500
might say yes, but it's not in 
the style of food that I'm doing

463
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:48,100
or in the type of kitchen that 
I'm running. 

464
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,100
So it doesn't match. 
H up and then maybe I make the 

465
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,700
mistake and I hire this person 
anyway, and right away. 

466
00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:57,600
I see that was a mistake because
they want to run it the way that

467
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,800
they ran it at the other place 
and it's completely different 

468
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,800
from how I want it. 
So sometimes starting from zero 

469
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,300
is better, it really depends on 
what you're looking for and 

470
00:23:06,300 --> 00:23:09,300
what's going to be best for your
operation and there's a case to 

471
00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:11,800
be made for both ends. 
So it's not again, it's not a 

472
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,400
one-size-fits-all answer, there 
is a lot of gray and a lot of 

473
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:16,800
these answers. 
So I apologize for that. 

474
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,700
But hey, life is Gray sometimes 
and I guess the best way to 

475
00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:26,000
answer it as make the right 
decision, make the right 

476
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,300
decision based on the 
opportunities that have 

477
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:32,000
presented themselves to you, for
what you need, would probably be

478
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,100
the best thing I could say. 
Next question is, how do you 

479
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,400
impress an interview having 
little experience in a 

480
00:23:36,408 --> 00:23:39,600
professional kitchen. 
So in my culinary leadership 

481
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,100
fundamentals, book, I talk about
this a little bit and I go 

482
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,900
in-depth on, you know, make sure
that your polished, make sure 

483
00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:48,400
you look like you're ready for 
the job that you're applying for

484
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,600
some, Apple tricks that I like 
to talk about is when you 

485
00:23:51,608 --> 00:23:54,500
introduce your purse yourself to
the person shake their hand. 

486
00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:58,700
If you know of handshakes are 
thing, say your name, say I'm 

487
00:23:58,700 --> 00:23:59,800
Andre natera. 
Nice to meet you. 

488
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,400
There can say hi, I'm Bill and 
you say hi Bill. 

489
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,300
Nice to meet you. 
Bill may do you mind if I have a

490
00:24:04,308 --> 00:24:06,700
seat try to use their name 
twice, it's just a little 

491
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:10,200
psychological trick that I use 
is the sweetest sound to 

492
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,400
everyone's ears is their own 
name. 

493
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,500
So, say their name twice within 
the first 30 seconds smile. 

494
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,300
Don't seat yourself, ask. 
If you can be seated, be 

495
00:24:18,300 --> 00:24:22,200
professional, have your They in 
hand, make sure your resume has 

496
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,000
been proof, read. 
There's no typos. 

497
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,100
Make sure your, your experience 
is correct. 

498
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:31,000
Don't embellish people call each
other and check on that. 

499
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,300
Also, make sure that the dates 
are on there in position. 

500
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,500
You don't want the person. 
Looking at your resume to have 

501
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:40,400
to ask the questions to like oh 
here it says you're still 

502
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,400
working there. 
You still working there. 

503
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,600
Oh no I left two years ago 
whatever. 

504
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,700
The case might be double, check 
your resume, make sure it's 

505
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:47,900
accurate. 
And then the last thing I would 

506
00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:51,200
say that would impress during an
View is I always say come 

507
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,000
prepared with at least three 
questions. 

508
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,600
Nothing is worse than an 
interview when you close it up 

509
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,300
and you say do you have any 
questions? 

510
00:24:57,300 --> 00:24:58,600
They're like nope. 
I think you answered all my 

511
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,400
questions that to me is one of 
the worst things you could do, 

512
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:04,600
have three questions prepared 
and simple like you could ask 

513
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,500
them, like, can you tell me a 
little bit about yourself, 

514
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:08,400
what's your leadership style? 
Like whatever the case, maybe 

515
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,200
just have some questions and the
reason I say that is because one

516
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,200
you look like you're prepared 
and number two, everyone's 

517
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,800
favorite subject is themselves. 
So if you ask them questions 

518
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,000
about them, Selves, they will 
love to talk about themselves. 

519
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,400
So one of the best things you 
could do in an interview is get 

520
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,500
them to talk about themselves. 
They'll leave the interview 

521
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:29,900
thinking boy, I really like 
talking to that person. 

522
00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:33,400
They were, they were a great 
conversationalist study body 

523
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,900
language if you really want to 
get polished on interviewing 

524
00:25:36,900 --> 00:25:40,200
skills and something called NLP 
neuro-linguistic, programming, 

525
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:41,700
that's something else you could 
study. 

526
00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:46,300
And that's just like subtle 
persuasion techniques that you 

527
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:50,500
could use to get a slight Edge. 
Edge in the interview process. 

528
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:52,100
So anyway, that's my advice 
there. 

529
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:55,200
The next question is, how do you
personally deal with impostor 

530
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,700
syndrome? 
If you've ever had it? 

531
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,300
I don't personally deal with it 
because I don't think I've had 

532
00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:03,400
it now. 
I know with imposter syndrome. 

533
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,700
It's the idea of people being in
a position or having a certain 

534
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:09,900
amount of success that they feel
that maybe they don't deserve, 

535
00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:11,400
or there's other people that are
better than them. 

536
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,100
I tone that noise down, I don't 
think about it. 

537
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:19,200
I'm not into, I'm not in 
competition with anyone else. 

538
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:24,500
I am in a Perpetual competition 
with my own mind and with myself

539
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:25,900
and I would encourage you to do 
that. 

540
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:27,400
You're not competing with anyone
else. 

541
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,500
It doesn't matter if they're a 
better Chef than you, you're not

542
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,600
competing with them. 
You're competing with who you 

543
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,200
were yesterday. 
That's it. 

544
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:35,900
All you're trying to do is beat 
the person that you were 

545
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:37,100
yesterday and be better than 
them. 

546
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:40,600
So I would say, stop thinking 
about that stop comparing 

547
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,700
yourself to others. 
It's a it's a dog, chasing, its 

548
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:45,500
tail. 
It's never going to stop. 

549
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,600
And there really is no reward 
because there will always trust 

550
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,400
me. 
There's always someone better at

551
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,400
everything than you there's 
someone that knows more about 

552
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,500
food. 
There's someone that's more 

553
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:59,500
successful and you could use 
that as motivation for you to 

554
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,900
get better. 
But it's not realistic for you 

555
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:05,700
to compare yourself to someone 
because you have no idea what's 

556
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,200
going on in their mind. 
The only thing that you could 

557
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,300
control is yourself be better 
than yourself yesterday period. 

558
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:15,700
So I don't struggle with 
imposter syndrome but as ice 

559
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:20,300
Speak to people who do that 
would be, my advice for them is 

560
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:25,400
quit giving your energy to other
people and reverse that energy 

561
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,400
and channel it into yourself and
improving yourself and it's a 

562
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,100
better use of the energy that 
you have. 

563
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,000
This is the last question and it
was asked about three or four 

564
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:39,400
times in the in the DMS and it's
a tough question for me to 

565
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,500
answer. 
So I saved it for the end. 

566
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,000
And that is, you know, what is 
my personal Rock Bottom if I'm 

567
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,000
willing to share it. 
Or the worst thing that's ever 

568
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,100
happened to me in my career and 
I'll tell you that I had a 

569
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:55,200
period of maybe the worst year 
ever. 

570
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,500
And that was, you know, I had I 
had lost everything for lack of 

571
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:01,500
a better term. 
I lost everything that I had 

572
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,700
accumulated over the course of 
my career. 

573
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,700
I had reached a certain point of
success where I was top of the 

574
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:11,500
food chain in the city that I 
was at, you know, it was best 

575
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:14,700
chef two years consecutive, I 
was in the running for the best 

576
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:17,300
chef in the city. 
I had all the stars from the 

577
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,800
newspaper. 
I was getting all the 

578
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,700
recognition. 
I was probably on TV once a week

579
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:25,300
doing something, I had gotten 
inducted into the MasterChef 

580
00:28:25,300 --> 00:28:29,200
society and I was turning 
opportunities down because there

581
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,100
was so many and I was at the top
of the world. 

582
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,700
And when that happened, I got 
some advice for my mentor and 

583
00:28:36,700 --> 00:28:39,800
they told me they said, do not 
get too puffed up, when all this

584
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,800
success happens because you 
could lose it just as quick as 

585
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,300
it came and I remember thinking 
that's not me. 

586
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:50,000
I'm well that won't happen but 
sure should I did my ego got the

587
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,800
best of me and it was one thing 
after the other and my life just

588
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,900
started crumbling bad. 
And basically I went into a 

589
00:28:58,908 --> 00:29:03,800
downward spiral and probably was
willing to bring down anyone 

590
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,900
around me, you know, to my rock 
bottom that you wanted to go 

591
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:11,800
with me. 
Every chef. 

592
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,500
Wants to get to a certain spot 
in their career and sometimes 

593
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,600
that's owning your own 
restaurant and being the best 

594
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,100
version of yourself. 
And when you reach that and it's

595
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,500
all taken away from you and you 
have to start over again. 

596
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:29,400
It's a very humbling situation 
and it took me a number of years

597
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,700
to mentally recover from that 
and understand what I did wrong 

598
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:37,600
and understand what I needed to 
do to get better. 

599
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:41,600
There's no one to blame. 
You can only blame yourself and 

600
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,600
you go through these mental 
exercises, will whose fault was 

601
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,300
it? 
At the end of the day? 

602
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:47,200
You can't blame anyone. 
You can only blame yourself. 

603
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,800
You have to accept full 
responsibility for the good and 

604
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,300
the bad that happens in your 
life. 

605
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,700
And I often use the Expression, 
everyone loves being the hammer,

606
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:59,300
but no one likes to be the nail,
and in this particular case, I 

607
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:03,300
was the nail, and as bad thing 
after bad, thing after bad thing

608
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:06,700
started happening, it's like 
shit. 

609
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,700
I don't like this and I have to 
Figure out how to correct it. 

610
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:17,000
I think when you're a very 
successful chef, and you quickly

611
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,800
turn around and you're no longer
a successful Chef. 

612
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400
I think your ego gets bruised, 
and you have to remove yourself 

613
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,100
from that. 
So you could correct it and 

614
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:27,200
understand that. 
And that's honestly a big reason

615
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,200
why I started chefs PSA. 
Because a lot of the, the 

616
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,400
mistakes that I made in my 
career, I'm hoping that I could 

617
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,200
teach people to not make those 
same mistakes and not that 

618
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,800
they're avoidable. 
Because some of you have to go 

619
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,400
through these mistakes because 
that's what's going to make you 

620
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,200
who you are. 
Mistakes aren't bad. 

621
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,300
But some other rougher lessons, 
if you could be knowledgeable, 

622
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:48,000
when you approach these 
situations and it's like 

623
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,400
understanding the moves on the 
chessboard Sena. 

624
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,600
I know that last time I was 
watching the chess game, this 

625
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,000
person made that move and they 
failed and they captured the 

626
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,900
king. 
So I'm not going to make that 

627
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:02,300
same mistake. 
Now, your king may get captured 

628
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:07,200
in a later move, but you'll at 
least have not made that 

629
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,500
mistake. 
You'll have another mistake to 

630
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:12,700
learn from. 
So Anyway, that's basically the,

631
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:15,600
the worst thing that's ever 
happened to me, is accumulating 

632
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,700
a massive amount of success, 
only to have it, basically 

633
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:22,800
washed away overnight and then 
having to completely rebuild 

634
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,200
that. 
And it honestly took me about 

635
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:31,200
mmm, probably about four years 
to get back to the same level 

636
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,500
that I was previously in terms 
of reputation, and you're 

637
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,700
getting on getting on top of the
city, basically. 

638
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:42,300
Lee wherever I was and having a 
restaurant that was in that same

639
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:44,800
level. 
Anyway, that's probably the most

640
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,400
difficult thing is adversity, 
will make you stronger so don't 

641
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000
shy away from the adversity 
adversity makes you better. 

642
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,400
It definitely did in my case. 
It helped me recognize some 

643
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,300
blind spots that I had. 
It helped me correct. 

644
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:02,700
You know the culture that I was 
creating and kitchens it made me

645
00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:07,000
realize that you know like all 
like all the all stories your 

646
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,900
hero has a character Arc in my 
case like I was good at The 

647
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,800
beginning that I turned bad and 
then at the end it was good. 

648
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,000
Like Darth Vader. 
We're Anakin Skywalker, right? 

649
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,300
I had my Darth Vader, period. 
And then, I went back to Anakin 

650
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:23,400
Skywalker anyway, that's going 
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651
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,300
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652
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