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Hello chefs. 
You're listening to chefs, PSA 

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podcast. 
I'm your host Andre natera. 

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On today's episode, we're going 
to talk about plating Styles and

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different plates. 
You could use for them. 

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All right, chefs, let's get into

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this episode. 
Before we get into it, let me 

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give you an update. 
I always like to give you an 

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update of a big one, but I am 
working on the line. 

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Cook survival, manual. 
Audiobook. 

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So, I think that should be 
released most likely early 

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February. 
It's a companion to the first 

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book, The, how not to be the 
biggest idiot in the kitchen. 

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So, if you haven't picked that 
book up, Should go get it, the 

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paperback version and ebook 
versions of line. 

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Cook survival manual are 
available. 

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I want to make sure that there's
an audio book available for it 

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as well because I know a lot of 
people are moving towards 

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audiobooks. 
I know, I listen to a lot of 

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audiobooks. 
So I want to make sure that it 

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was available for everyone and 
the narrator that I work with, 

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he's got a busy schedule. 
So most likely it won't be 

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released until early February, 
anyway, not related to this, but

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I thought it was pretty cool. 
This week, I started messing 

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around with an AI. 
Image generator, which I thought

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was pretty deep where you type 
in a prompt and then it gives 

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you whatever you want. 
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very wild thing like How quickly
a i is moving, and the level of 

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quality that you're getting from
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I think the world that we're 
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year, is going to be completely 
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So any way I could, I know I did
an episode on a, I could a very 

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fascinated by it. 
I think, I think, if people 

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haven't caught on to that, I 
wrote an AI recipe book. 

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A while back, it took me like 
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anyway, it was very quickly, it 
saved a lot of time for me to 

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write these recipes. 
So if you haven't started 

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working with AI, And you feel 
like goofing off, I was using 

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chat GPT on open a.i., because 
everyone keeps asking me, and 

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I'll even say in the comments 
like 100 times open a ichat GPT 

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in the next person will comment,
what do using anyway. 

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Read the comments and you'll 
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if you want to experiment with 
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I don't get, I don't get why 
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look at it because I think it's 
like Google, it's just another 

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tool that we're going to have. 
It makes you exponentially more 

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efficient enough about AI. 
That's Not what you guys. 

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Listen to this, let's talk about
Chef stuff. 

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Today's episode, we're going to 
talk about plating and different

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plates and different plating 
Styles. 

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So I think it's important that 
people understand that plating 

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Trends come and go. 
So, I've kind of been a little 

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bit reluctant to talk about the 
way people should plate, because

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you'll start doing something 
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back a couple of years. 
Like, when I started, it was 

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partially on the rim, you know? 
That's when I started cooking, 

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you know, there was Rosemary 
sprigs everywhere and, and lemon

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crowns. 
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out of fruit was very popular, 
if you know pineapples or 

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whatever the case may be. 
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people can look at you like 
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So anyway you can't do that 
today. 

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So if you're listening to this 
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understand that we're going to 
talk about is kind of the 

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current plating styles that 
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future. 
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I must say plates and plating. 
Go hand in hand. 

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It's very important to select 
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It's for the right type of 
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want. 
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on kind of understanding your 
restaurant, understanding your 

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audience, you know, where you 
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Are you in a very high-end 
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Are you in a three-michelin-star
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Because all of those types of 
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different type of plate that you
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Anyway, Steel. 
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So, I'm a big fan of them. 
They've been very supportive of 

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me and the organizations that 
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the years, aside from them being
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near and dear to my heart. 
I also think that they offer 

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great products anyway. 
So let's just kind of talk 

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through that a little bit. 
So if we're talking, casual 

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dining, right? 
This is kind of your entry 

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level. 
You need, you need to make sure 

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that you're choosing the right 
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So, in casual dining, you know, 
you hate to say your slang in 

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plates, but I don't, I can't 
think of another word to To use,

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but it's a more quick hectic 
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So you need a heavier piece of 
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that's going on, you know, 
plates fall often and chaotic 

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environments. 
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That's that's not going to break
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That's not going to chip as much
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That's going to stand up to the 
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a fast-paced, casual dining 
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Homer Laughlin, or the Hall, 
China, Robert Gordon like that 

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is kind of the idea. 
Real China that I would use in a

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casual setting, kind of, in the,
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that's kind of where you want 
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Look at your steel out, your 
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porcelain your Robert Gordon, 
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That's, you know, a more of a 
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it's still sturdy but you're 
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different colors and things like
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And then on your very high-end, 
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you're going to get into like 
the bone china, the William 

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Edwards bone china? 
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bone. 
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And I'm not saying you don't see
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I know I've used bone china in 
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It is a little bit more elegant,
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finesse. 
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plates using bone china because 
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So choosing the right style of 
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is very important for the type 
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knowing, which plates to choose 
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So be smart about it, your 
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as a chef. 
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silver. 
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really trying to Glass 
silverware Linen, in most hotels

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and restaurants you budget that 
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money quarterly so you could buy
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So you do a month, end 
inventory, you trued up the next

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month's. 
You see what your variances 20s,

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any or vote, variance to par, 
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then you buy what you need. 
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cost labor cost. 
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in. 
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China, glass and silverware, are
also some of the biggest 

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expenses that also go into 
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restaurant. 
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right China for your location. 
The bright silver where the 

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right glassware for your 
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So like I said, if you're 
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you're probably not going to use
all China and if you're working 

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in a very casual setting you're 
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William Edwards, bone china. 
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right? 
You want to make sure. 

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Sure, that you're using the 
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In this case, we're talking 
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using. 
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you know, let's let's just say 
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a lot of chefs that listen to 
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and big hotels and you have to 
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things like that. 
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a little. 
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you want that look and feel of a
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Maybe you have a exclusive 
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something like that. 
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have that fine dining look maybe
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like that. 
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going through a lot of volume. 
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that look. 
But also has that feel so, you 

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know, maybe you're looking at 
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something like that, right? 
So, so a bone china look, but 

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maybe it's a little bit more 
affordable, you can do things 

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like that. 
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We digress. 
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plating and plate, Trends, what 
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go to a lot of restaurants or 
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I like to call it as I'm looking
at all the food pictures, what 

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you're starting to see chefs 
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And obviously you know, plating 
Styles and plate Styles, they 

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change over the course of time. 
But one thing that you're 

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starting to see right now is 
kind of this more natural you 

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know these Stone glazed 
Stoneware natural glazed plates 

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that have, you know, I don't 
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but you know, like maybe pink 
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like a Peach Stone. 
They're brushed they look 

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hand-painted plates. 
Like that are very trendy right 

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now or darker plates, which, you
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always beautiful, white china. 
Now, I think it's okay to serve 

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things in Darker bowls plates 
Coupe plates. 

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It almost has like a like a 
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Men looking bowl style, you 
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I'm trying to think you'll see 
these plates that have like a 

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little bit of fish. 
Maybe some, shaved, vegetables, 

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pour a little bit of broth 
tableside like the folio as oars

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plates that, you know, steel 
light has to offer. 

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So those are kind of the things 
that you want to look at that 

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natural style plate, with with 
different types of colors, 

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because sometimes your food is 
going to lack a little bit of 

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color. 
So you need the plate to kind of

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make it pop a little bit, but 
but you also don't want the 

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plate to be so beautiful that it
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But I do want to talk about that
in a second. 

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We'll get to that when we talk 
about different strategies when 

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it comes to plating. 
But anyway, what you'll notice 

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right now is very trendy in the 
restaurant world. 

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A lot of chefs are opening up. 
I mean, who's opening up a 

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Mediterranean restaurant right 
now raise your hand, right? 

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If you're listening across the 
world, you're opening up 

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Mediterranean restaurants across
the board or some sort of Middle

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Eastern style restaurant. 
Is that Food has become very 

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popular, it's definitely having 
a moment. 

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So, a lot of these natural 
plating Styles lend themselves 

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well to that style of food. 
A lot of, a lot of restaurants 

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are starting to move into this 
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think it took very long for us 
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where it's food arrives, as you 
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sharing food, so I can think of,
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Plates that are that, like, have
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you can Saturday, where you 
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That's, that's also very 
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It's important that you choose 
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setting. 
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a lot of food is being plated. 
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stacking tray. 
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combination Bowl. 
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but you know, the sides are 
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straight but you could use it as
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could put one of these stacking 
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interesting thing also and I was
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and match China. 
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mixed in with something more 
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It was just a very eclectic mix.
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on a different look so it was 
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might have a mixer. 
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parents gave, you something that
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so you have this mix and match 
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the way it would look at home, 
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might be a very beautiful piece 
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plate, it might be a bowl, it 
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So mixing that all up adding 
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station, whether you know, we're
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we're looking at a buffet or 
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for photo shoots, all of that 
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So again, you need to make sure 
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very high-end level, and you'll 
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Michelin star restaurants, or 
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fine, dining, and they start 
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lot of places. 
I know still light will do this 

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beautiful patterns, that might 
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there or something like that. 
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pieces. 
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see this often where, you know, 
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stacked on one another and then 
there's something, you know, I'm

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just I'm just making this up. 
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piece of fish or a cup stacked 
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there's some theatrics in the 
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incorporating some, you know, 
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make a really cool feeling out 
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of right before, right. 
Before I started chefs PSA, we 

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would incorporate a big mix of 
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So we'd have things that were on
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that were, you know, like 
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it made sense because sometimes 
we do like a high-low plating 

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concept, and I'll tell you The 
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will get into plating 
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But anyway, so here was the 
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If you're going to charge high 
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really you got to look at two 
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an exceptional quality 
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of money. 
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passing some of that markup off 
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So let's just say you're serving
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something like that caviar. 
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vessel to present that in 
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do you get a lot of money for 
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Well, I'll tell you what I did. 
If you've ever seen the movie 

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Inglorious Basterds, and I love 
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favorite food scenes in the 
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movies TV, whatever the case may
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eating the apple strudel and 
they go and they open up the, 

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they put the thing down and they
get the cream and they put it on

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top and there's this whole 
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I remember watching that. 
I'm like, that looks so good. 

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I love Love that scene and I 
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and you know, the cinematography
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Anyway, we digress. 
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Is that in the restaurant, that 
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prior, I got with the pastry 
chef and I said, I want to serve

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a lemon tart and the lemon tart 
wasn't necessarily on the level 

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of the restaurant. 
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It was a little bit too simple. 
I was too much of a fastball 

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down the middle for the level of
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provide I said, but we're going 
to serve it on a beautiful plate

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with a gold rim and we're going 
to come out and we're going to 

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have this service piece where 
we're going to bring the cream 

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like Inglourious Basterds. 
And we're gonna put the cream on

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top so you could take something 
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familiar but you could present 
it in a way that's unique that 

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would allow people to be like, 
wow, like I've had a lemon tart 

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before but I haven't had it 
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And so you put a little bit of 
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So there's a difference again, 
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plating Styles but there's we're
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theater. 
There's a difference between 

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getting a dish that has truffles
on it and then there's a 

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difference between that and then
the chef coming to the table and

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shaving the truffles for you and
saying, tell me, when to stop, 

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that's a different experience. 
I'll tell you a story years ago.

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I went to spiaggia restaurant 
and Chicago and I wish I could 

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tell you the name of the 
champagne but I remember they 

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had brought out a bowl of water 
and they popped the champagne 

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inside the bowl of water, and 
they did. 

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Abel's, I was just a really cool
presentation and I've never seen

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anyone do it in a big clear bowl
of water. 

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And I just remember thinking, 
like that was so cool. 

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Everyone else around it, saw it 
and they're like, that's cool 

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and other people order the 
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I wish I could remember what the
champagne was, but I thought the

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story was super cool and the 
theatrics of the dish were super

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cool or I'm sorry, the champagne
was super cool that it allows 

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them to charge more, so doing 
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Bringing the cheese gear, add on
to the table and saying, You 

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know, we have these 20 
selections achieves, what would 

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you want? 
That is a different experience, 

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bringing a breadbasket and 
saying we have all these breads 

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that were just made today. 
So you take something, simple, 

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like bread. 
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make it a bread experience or, 
you know, where they do the 

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canal of butter. 
And they put that on there that 

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that elevates the dining 
experience and then now you 

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could charge a lot more for 
something that wouldn't. 

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You might be free or maybe you 
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it in a casual setting. 
So it's a lot of times it's the 

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same food, it's just the way 
it's presented. 

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Comes to plating Styles, 
obviously Trends change and 

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things like that, but so here's 
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like whenever you're playing 
something, everything has to be 

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proportionate. 
So, whatever the feature 

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ingredient is needs to be, it 
needs to be prominent so you 

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don't want to order. 
I'm giving you an example, you 

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don't want to order a steak 
plate and you have a little bit 

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of bead and then the whole lot 
of everything else. 

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So you want to make sure that 
whatever it is that you're 

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selling that the feature is 
there. 

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I like to keep my plating to a 
minimum in general. 

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I don't like a ton of things on 
There. 

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And I know it's very trendy 
right now sometimes to have a, 

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you know, maybe too much. 
But I think everything, you 

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know, I still subscribe to the 
idea of everything needs to have

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a purpose on the plate. 
So if you're going to garnish 

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with herbs, whether we're 
talking flowers, maybe you're 

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getting a whole bunch of flowers
from Chef's Garden, or whatever 

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the case may be. 
You want to make sure that it, 

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you taste it with the dish. 
Does it taste good? 

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Is it beautiful? 
Yes. 

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But does it taste good. 
So you want to make sure that 

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you're going through these 
exercises, right? 

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So like, let's say borage 
flowers, have like a cucumber 

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taste. 
Maybe you're putting that on 

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cucumber. 
Okay, that makes sense. 

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But I wouldn't put it on 
something where it would be a 

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clash of flavor. 
So looking at the plate 

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aesthetically, a lot of times 
you could use negative space to 

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make the plating look, you know,
more aesthetically pleasing, you

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want to have a variety of shapes
so my formula and I came up with

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this and I know I've talked 
about another podcast but I'll 

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kind of bring it up again. 
My formula for plating when I 

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ran a higher-end restaurant was 
always like this. 

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It was you always have to have a
protein. 

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That was that was your focus, 
right? 

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So, It might not be a proteus, 
let's just say it's a carrot 

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dish or pasta dish. 
But, whatever the focus was that

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needed to be your primary thing 
on the plate. 

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And then there would be a lot of
Supporting Cast. 

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So you have your main, you have 
your star, your main character, 

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and The Supporting Cast. 
So let's just, let's just say, 

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in this case, maybe it's a piece
of meat and then you'd have all 

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the things that support the 
meat. 

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So you might have a puree of 
carrot and then you might have 

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some shaved carrots and then you
might have some roasted carrots 

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and then you might have some 
carrot fronds and then you might

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have something else. 
So my thing was you always want 

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to incorporate If there was a 
vegetable on there, you'd want 

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to incorporate that multiple 
times on the plate. 

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So, like I said, you have a 
carrot, you have a carrot puree 

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and then you'd also have Franz 
and maybe a raw shaved carrot on

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there. 
So you did she have some visual 

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textures and understand that 
people could look at things and 

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say, okay, I could get that 
there's going to be texture on 

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there, right? 
When we're plating, we want to 

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make sure that there's very 
clean plates going out. 

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So I always have plate wipes, 
and by the way, You should be 

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using plate wipes. 
If you're not using plate, 

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wipes, use plate wipes, there's 
a lot of different ways to do 

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it. 
Some people just roll up a 

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towel, some people put a squirt 
bottle full of like vodka or 

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something like that and I'll 
spray the plate and then the 

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wipe it other people I've seen 
cut sponges up like regular 

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dish. 
Sponge is clean sponges and 

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they'll soak them in vodka and 
they'll use that to wipe the 

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plates, which I think is pretty 
cool. 

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Some people will take little 
torque towels or chick towels or

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something like that. 
Cut them roll them, soak them, 

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use that to White plates. 
But anyway, Late wipes. 

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Make sure your plate is clean 
and then when you're plating, 

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you know, have an intense focus 
and deliberate intent, and what 

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you're doing. 
So things to keep in mind, like 

448
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if you're putting meat on a 
plate, you want to dab the meat.

449
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So let's say you slice some beef
and it's maybe you didn't let it

450
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rest long enough. 
You want to just kind of dab it 

451
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on a towel or something to 
absorb any any leakage to make 

452
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sure that it's going on the 
plate and it's not going to 

453
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leave like a pool of of pool of 
blood, basically on the plate or

454
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something like that. 
You want to dab your meat before

455
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it goes on the plate. 
So it goes on clean. 

456
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You're not making boil. 
All over with your hands. 

457
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That's why I let you know, I 
know tweezers, you know, they 

458
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catch a lot of shit when people 
are using tweezers. 

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But the reason people use 
tweezers, obviously because 

460
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they're precise, right there are
tool to make sure that what 

461
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you're doing delivers, a precise
and result in what you're trying

462
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to do. 
So placing herbs where they go, 

463
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putting a spoonful of puree, and
there's a lot of things that 

464
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people could do with purees, 
right. 

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So shout out to the French 
Laundry and Chef David, Breeden,

466
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Thomas Keller and the new book 
French Laundry per se. 

467
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They go in depth On using. 
Pre hydrated xanthum gum and you

468
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know using it in different 
purees and things like that. 

469
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I think that's an incredible 
tool and Chef should definitely 

470
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be using that for your purees 
where they hydrate the xanthum 

471
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gum and the blender, they put it
in a cryovac machine or 

472
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something to kind of compress 
it. 

473
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They have, I know I used to do 
this when I was a chef, we'd 

474
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have a big, you know, 5 gallon 
bucket of pre. 

475
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Hi. 
So you put a little bit of 

476
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squeeze bottle, so when you need
to add a little bit of pre-high 

477
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to a green puree, or I puree or 
whatever. 

478
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The case, maybe you could do 
that. 

479
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So when you put it on the plate,
it doesn't weep and it holds it 

480
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adds a little bit of structure 
to the puree, but it also makes 

481
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sure that it doesn't weep on the
plate. 

482
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So, you know what I'm talking 
about, right? 

483
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You put a little, a little sauce
or something like that, tomato 

484
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sauce on a plate. 
And then, it has, you know, a 

485
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couple of seconds like a little 
pool of water, a little ring of 

486
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water around the puree. 
So doing things like that will 

487
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elevate your plating skills, 
right? 

488
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There's some tools of refinement
when it comes to plating an 

489
00:23:22,500 --> 00:23:26,000
offset pal. 
Let knife to do smears and 

490
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things like that to add some, 
some visual contrast. 

491
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,100
You want to make sure that you 
have your tweezers. 

492
00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:37,100
If you're if you're that style 
spoons for for placement or as 

493
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they say God's tweezers, the 
fing the fingers on your on your

494
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,500
hands, right? 
So when you don't have tweezers,

495
00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:46,900
you could use God's tweezers and
that'll make sure that you could

496
00:23:46,900 --> 00:23:50,600
put things where they belong. 
So general advice when it comes 

497
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to plating, make sure you have 
deliberate intent. 

498
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Make sure that It on the plate, 
has a purpose, make sure that 

499
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you have a lot of contrast of 
color and variety. 

500
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Make sure that there's textures 
on there. 

501
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,300
Make sure that it all makes 
sense. 

502
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:05,400
Make sure it's beautiful. 
Make sure you wipe the plate 

503
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000
before it goes out. 
Very cool right now is to do 

504
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,800
natural style plating, right? 
You'll see a lot of a lot of 

505
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food with a lot of fresh herbs 
picked herbs like that. 

506
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So, you want to make sure the 
herbs that you're putting on 

507
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:17,600
their fresh, maybe you're 
holding them in a little 

508
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,500
container of ice water. 
Or maybe you've compressed them 

509
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,900
in the cryovac machine with ice 
water prior to keep them 

510
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200
vibrant, whatever the case may 
be, Those are the things that 

511
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,300
you should be doing, to make 
sure that everything looks nice 

512
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:32,100
looks fresh and plated 
beautifully because I know I've 

513
00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:35,200
said this before in chefs, PSA 
taste is more important than 

514
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,600
plating and it still is, but 
plating a second, and it is 

515
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,000
important. 
People do eat with their eyes 

516
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,800
first. 
They, you need to make sure in 

517
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,500
today's world, at least, right? 
Food is very Instagram, double. 

518
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:47,800
So, you want to make sure that 
your food is Instagram, mobile 

519
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,200
and people are looking at and 
say, wow, that looks beautiful. 

520
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,900
And and and then they taste and 
it's like, wow, not only, is it 

521
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:55,400
beautiful, but it also tastes 
Think about the China that 

522
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,900
you're using contrasting colors.
If you have, you know, depending

523
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,700
on what you're going for, maybe 
you have like a very beautiful 

524
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:07,700
piece of William Edwards style, 
bone china, or something like 

525
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:11,000
that with the gold rim and then 
you have something, you know, 

526
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800
kind of high low as they say. 
You have this beautiful 

527
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,300
beautiful golden plate and then 
you put, you know, tater tots 

528
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with black truffles on it or 
something like that. 

529
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,100
So, again, have fun with it. 
Have it make sense, but whatever

530
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:23,600
you do. 
Again, last piece of advice, 

531
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,100
whatever you do, Make sure you 
have a story. 

532
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,100
It's deliberate and it's 
intentional and you're not just 

533
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,800
winging it. 
I'll save that story for another

534
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,000
day about how I got out of some 
trouble just by telling a good 

535
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,200
story and get the job. 
So anyway, long story short, I 

536
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,900
could talk about plating at 
length, make sure you use the 

537
00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:42,700
right plate. 
Make sure you have deliberate 

538
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:46,800
intent with everything that 
you're doing, make sure it's big

539
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,900
sure it's tasty. 
Make sure it looks good and 

540
00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:51,800
quite honestly, look at all the 
beautiful food on social media, 

541
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,000
right? 
Natural plating, you know, 

542
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,900
follow the best chefs. 
I'm you look at all the, all the

543
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,400
new plating Trends as they come 
out. 

544
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600
Get inspired. 
I won't say steel. 

545
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,400
Because last time I got in 
trouble because everyone was 

546
00:26:01,408 --> 00:26:04,300
saying, I'm talking down to 
chefs, we're saying steel, but 

547
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,500
get inspired and learn about 
that learn from other chefs that

548
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:12,000
incorporate your own style into 
it. 

549
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,500
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