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What's up guys? 
My name is Alexis Brown, your 

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host, with praises and the plot,
and I'm super excited to have 

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Alexa hewing with us today. 
Hey, I'm so excited to be here. 

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Yes. 
So we are going to start off in 

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prayer and then we're going to 
jump right in so. 

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Lord, Heavenly Father, thank you
for today, Thank you for all 

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your many blessings. 
Dear God, thank you for pulling 

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us out of the darkness Lord, and
just wrapping your arms around 

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us and keeping us safe all these
years when we genuinely had no 

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idea where we were in life, what
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going, Lord, but you always knew
where we would end up. 

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Lord, we are so grateful for you
and for what you've done. 

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Lord, we just pray that you 
speak to us and through us and 

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that this podcast glorifies you.
In Jesus name I pray, Amen. 

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I kind of told you a little bit 
earlier about how I heard your 

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testimony at Elevate, which is 
our high school ministry and 

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middle school ministry come 
together and we just have a 

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night full of worship and 
testimonies and all this good 

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stuff. 
And I heard you back in February

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and your testimony rocked my 
world. 

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It was just so you just really 
saw the goodness of God through 

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your testimony. 
So when I started praising the 

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pod, you were like one of the 
first people I thought about 

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because it was so powerful of 
what things you've talked about.

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And you were one of the first 
people that talked about this 

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that openly that I had heard of.
So I was like, let's get Alexa 

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on here. 
So I was super excited when you 

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said yes. 
So I sent you some questions and

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just wanted to like get to know 
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And so, yeah, start out with 
your childhood and maybe tell us

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a little bit about yourself. 
Yeah, so born and raised not too

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far from here, lived in the same
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I had a great childhood. 
I will say we were probably like

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the typical Southern family, 
Southern Baptist where you go to

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church most Sundays. 
I was in Sunday school, I would 

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say through like the 5th grade 
pretty regularly, but it wasn't 

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like when I'm raising my kids 
how I want them to be in that 

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good godly community, but had 
great parents. 

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I have a brother who's a goob 
but I love him and we and we had

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fun. 
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values in me. 
I decided to get baptized at 

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like age 7. 
So I will say I remember having 

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this like big love for Jesus. 
But I, I think looking back, my 

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church didn't do the best job of
explaining like what it means to

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be fully repentant and to live 
with a relationship with Christ 

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versus, you know, praying the 
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You know, you don't want to go 
to hell. 

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And if you believe that Jesus 
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time to get baptized. 
And you know, all that's great. 

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But you know, I really missed 
the key intricate heart. 

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You know, like I said, my 
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there wasn't that at home. 
You know, it's it's not, it 

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can't just be at church. 
It's got to be at home too. 

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So that's probably a long winded
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You're good, girl. 
So basically, you know, y'all 

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were always at church, y'all 
went to Sunday school, y'all 

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were at the church, y'all were 
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But at home, you know, during 
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thing to revolve your life 
around your faith. 

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Right. 
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And I wouldn't even say like 
super involved. 

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I'd say we we showed up. 
I remember sometimes even like, 

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OK, if we go to Sunday school, 
we don't go to big church. 

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If we go to big church, we don't
go to Sunday schools. 

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Well, you know one thing too. 
Is like it's a lot different 

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because I remember as a child 
going to church like you, most 

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kids did have to sit in main 
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Like it wasn't like there was 
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there are now. 
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every church I've I've went and 
visited and looked at and 

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everything like they have a good
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so it makes kids, you know, 
church fun for kids to learn 

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about God. 
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younger, it wasn't really like 
that, you know, Awana was a 

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Awana's was a thing and you know
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nights and stuff like that. 
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just another check the box kind 
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It wasn't something that I love.
To do yes. 

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So I agree. 
It was like we called it Big 

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Church. 
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I still call it that. 
I do too. 

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That's from us, from grown-ups, 
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So what? 
What's going on? 

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You're in elementary school 
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Yeah. 
Elementary school, when I was 

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five, I was introduced to 
basically sex through sexual 

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abuse, and it's hard to come to 
terms with that as something 

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that I actually didn't even 
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It was it didn't happen. 
It didn't happen in my brain. 

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It's very ashamed of that. 
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recently that I actually, cuz I 
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It was coming up in my spirit 
and I was like, I gotta, I got 

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to get this on my chest. 
So I actually confessed it to 

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the Lord, even though, you know,
that's not something where I was

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sinning, but just saying that 
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I told my husband about it. 
I had never told anybody and so.

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So did you. 
You didn't really remember it 

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all the way up until now, or 
like it was something that you 

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compressed and you just never 
spoke. 

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Correct. 
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So yes, the second one, I just, 
I don't know how to explain it. 

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I mean, there's a lot of just 
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when that happened. 
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olds that I know and I'm like, 
Oh my gosh, you know, like I 

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just, I don't know, I have no 
words for it. 

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I'm still processing that. 
But I still, you know, that 

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didn't doesn't take away from my
childhood. 

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It was something that, you know,
it didn't happen often. 

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It happened a couple times, but 
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didn't really. 
I mean, I didn't know what was 

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happening. 
I just knew that it was 

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something shameful. 
And then when I was probably 8 

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years old, that's when I was 
introduced to pornography for 

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the first time at 8, At 8, I 
believe, you know, I will go 

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back. 
And I know my addiction really 

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took off when I was in the 4th 
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So that's when I was nine. 
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So somewhere between 7:00 and 
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first saw it. 
I don't have to say where I was.

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I guess that doesn't matter, 
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A little bit. 
I mean, obviously if you don't 

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want to, but like, what did you 
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it or like were you with people 
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like, OK, you don't have to, you
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OK, I can answer this. 
So I was it was it was with a a 

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group of kids. 
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family members, my cousins. 
So it's like one of them pulled 

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it up and we were all just kind 
of standing there like what is 

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this? 
They're like, ha, ha, ha, Oh my 

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gosh. 
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seen anything like that. 
I mean, I'm pretty, pretty 

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sheltered. 
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me watch like the chick flicks 
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So I had seen a little bit, but 
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at 5:00 that I had, I recognized
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I was like, this is what, you 
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And so I almost felt like I was 
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That's kind of a good word to 
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I mean, it's very enticing, you 
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age. 
But I did pageants at the time 

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and my mom and I were, we went 
dress shopping and we saw a 

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dress like a little pageant 
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And we saw the brand name. 
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the brand name was. 
It wasn't bad. 

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But we were trying to find the 
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the brand name this, this is how
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Back then, we didn't really, she
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so she just typed in the brand 
name.com and it was a porn site 

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and my mom. 
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mom. 
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yeah, that moment of like, gosh,
like this is in front of my 

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face, but. 
Then that showed you how to. 

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Get how to get there. 
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freaked out. 
She was like, Oh my gosh, don't 

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look, don't look, don't look. 
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Little does she know I had 
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And so that was another little 
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And then somewhere along the 
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how to repeatedly go and look 
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And then it that's when it 
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At the time when I was in 4th 
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home when I got home, I got out 
before, like my brother did from

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school, saying I rode the bus. 
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and I would just watch that. 
So somebody got home and then I 

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would just wipe it, like wipe it
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So elementary school, go into a 
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maybe. 
Middle school, you know, I'm 

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probably about 2 1/2 years into 
addiction once I start middle 

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school, so I'm just really mixed
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This was a time that my family, 
my parents particular, started 

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going through a really hard time
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I know my dad was really 
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stuff and I literally thought I 
thought they were going to get a

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divorce. 
All the while that this is going

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on, this is when I'm, I'm not in
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My dad, he's, he's a farmer. 
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where it's very common that my 
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and working. 
They're very hard workers. 

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They both farm, but this left me
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I mean, they were working around
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They were building like a little
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they have now. 
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got, I'm probably going to mess 
this up, Michael, if you're 

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listening, I'm sorry, but they 
got a lot of stuff. 

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They got a lot of tractors. 
They got they, really. 

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Built this little acreage up to 
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Yes, and very proud of them. 
But you know, when in middle 

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school, this was hard on me and 
my mom because they were absent 

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a lot. 
You know, while I know they're 

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absent, I'm kind of going 
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Like I would have never come out
and said, yeah, I mean, I had 

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been baptized at this point. 
I know about hell. 

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So I wasn't going to come out 
and say it because like I still 

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the back of my mind was like, 
but I ain't trying to go to 

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hell. 
But in middle school when I was 

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struggling, so struggling with 
atheism, struggling with my dad 

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not being in the house, parents 
borderline, I thought they were 

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going to get a divorce. 
I would have bet money on it. 

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Extremely sad situation to be in
as a kid. 

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I remember my mom, she just 
started going too bad in prayer 

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for her marriage. 
Like I thought it was so dumb. 

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I was like, my Mama is crazy. 
Like she's crazy. 

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The Lord answered all those 
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Their marriage was fully like 
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And so that was the first time 
in my life where I was like, OK,

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you know, like maybe just maybe 
like this is the real. 

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That was a big in middle school.
Those years were kind of 

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pivotal. 
Yeah, for my faith. 

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Just seeing that that was. 
Like, well, you get to see it 

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first hand. 
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Like you get to witness your 
mom, you know, crying out to the

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Lord begging for, you know, him 
to restore this marriage and 

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y'all's family and all this 
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And so like you get to watch God
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So that is so big. 
Like I mean, I've witnessed, 

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that's one of the things that 
really kick started. 

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You know, my actual personal 
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watching him move through my 
mom's ministry and answer those 

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prayers and like actually see 
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And it's like, wow, he is still 
the same God that he was in the 

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Old Testament for. 
He still does those type of 

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miracles, you know? 
Absolutely. 

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Umm, so going into high school 
now, what does that look like 

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for you? 
So, umm, early high school, I 

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still had a good bit of 
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I was still planning to save 
myself for marriage. 

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So like by that point I'm 
obviously out of my little 

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atheism stage because I really 
in my brain is like, OK, I'm 

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baptized, I'm saved, I'm gonna 
save myself for marriage. 

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But I still wasn't, you know, 
like I had a porn addiction. 

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I was just, I needed to be 
discipled or something. 

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I, I know the first time I got 
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that's just because I was able 
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ninth grade, you know, I had an 
older brother and we had fun. 

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You know, it was my older 
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He met his now wife and she had 
a younger sister and we had fun 

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together. 
We like to party and do all the 

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things, but you know, it wasn't 
good for me. 

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You know, it's not good for 
nobody to be getting into that 

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that young and that wasn't their
fault that I would knew what I 

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was doing. 
My parents didn't drink growing 

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up like they big, huge, huge, 
huge. 

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I'm not drinking. 
Wow. 

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We were preached that. 
And so growing up, I had an 

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aunt, she lived at the lake and 
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Not bad. 
Just like that was their 

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lifestyle. 
Like they lived on the lake and 

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they had fun and they had, I had
drinks. 

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And so I grew up seeing that 
being. 

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Like man idolizing it, Yeah. 
I can't wait to be old enough to

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to do this like my parents are 
lying on the ladder. 

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End of high school is when I 
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got into my first little 
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before, you know, we started to 
have sex and we were just, you 

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know, so it's just like bound to
be a train wreck. 

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So that just like porn, a porn 
addiction again, OK, high 

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school, this is getting close to
like 6789 years in so deep, deep

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rooted porn addiction. 
It really hyper sexualizes you. 

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I did for me, and nobody had 
taught me about sex. 

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So everything I knew from sex 
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And it's distorted. 
It's, you know, it's evil, but 

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you don't think that like, 
you're just like, this is this 

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is it. 
Like, this is the cool thing and

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it makes you insecure. 
So that's high school. 

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I think when it really started 
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derail was college. 
Really. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So I will say, too, in high 
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commit suicide. 
So I didn't mention that. 

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But that was another little 
thing that, and I can mention it

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earlier, like this is more 
common now, but it just didn't 

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really happen back then. 
I had never known anybody to do 

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that at that point. 
That became an option in my 

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brain that like wasn't there 
before. 

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Like if push comes to shove, 
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That was a hard time. 
But yeah, when it definitely 

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went on to struggle with with 
that, like really college is 

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when, you know, it started with 
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But then it's like a spider web,
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hyper sexualization, suicidal 
thoughts. 

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Like that's when all these 
things are just like snowballing

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from the the core. 
And I didn't even realize that 

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that's what what's causing it 
and just, you know, straight out

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disobedience from the Lord. 
But yeah, I got into another 

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relationship pretty soon. 
And that relationship was like 

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very, very, very, very, very 
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Like had no business being in 
that relationship. 

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And so I was in that 
relationship for about two years

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before we broke up while I was 
in college. 

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So those first two years where, 
you know, I have a boyfriend, 

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I'm a little more grounded just 
because I have a, a boyfriend. 

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But like, we, we would, you 
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party. 
We very, very hyper sexualized 

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relationship. 
So yeah, that was the first two 

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years of college. 
But really when we when we broke

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up, that's when things took a 
turn for the worse. 

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Like I start because here's the 
thing too. 

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Like we didn't just break up and
never talk again. 

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We were in this like toxic cycle
of, you know, puts it on thick 

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and you're like, OK, It's like. 
It's that toxic. 

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Cycle. 
It's the toxic cycle. 

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I really think like all of us 
have been in that type at some 

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point and I wish I could tell 
myself just cut it off. 

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If I could tell myself one 
thing, just cut it off. 

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Cut it off. 
Because it there is so much 

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wasted time in those years, like
if it's not like working and 

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we're forcing it that much. 
Yeah, just got it. 

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Now I have seen some work like I
genuinely have, but not many. 

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Not any. 
I would 100% just gone and gone.

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Girl like. 
Yes. 

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You don't want to talk to me 
about relationships. 

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I'm like, if it ain't that going
perfect. 

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And I and I full on preach that 
now to like even my small group 

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girls, everything like set your 
expectations high, high. 

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Don't just start like letting 
your guard down like, Oh well, 

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this is isn't great, but this is
good. 

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Like set your expectations 
expectations high and never drop

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them for anything. 
Yes, like I had like a one night

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stand one time and well, let me 
tell you what too, that's the 

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probably one of the lowest 
points of my entire life. 

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I had had that happen. 
And then I had like I was a 

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victim of the diminished 
capacity rape, which means, you 

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know, like I was out. 
I put myself in a situation 

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where I was out drinking too 
much, a situation where I was 

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able, you know, this guy brought
me home and was able to take 

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advantage of me. 
I, I remember saying no, like 

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no, but I couldn't do anything 
because I was so drunk. 

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And so these are the little 
things that's like I'm viraling.

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And I felt like there was 
literally no way out. 

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Like I'm I would, I could make 
myself throw up like. 

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I was getting to the point where
I was like, all right, I'm about

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ready to end it. 
Like I was just a train wreck. 

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So that's latter end of my 
college years. 

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One of the things that you 
mentioned was like, you know, 

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you portrayed yourself a certain
way, like especially on social 

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media, like you were posting, 
you know, provocative, basically

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photos showing, showing your 
body, all this stuff. 

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And like I've known of you and I
grew up somewhat with your 

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brother. 
And so like I knew of you then 

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and I, I just, I never knew any 
of that. 

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I guess I just didn't see a 
whole lot of your social media 

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or anything because when I heard
you were coming to CR to give 

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your testimony and then elevate,
I'm like Alexa Bennett, like 

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what did she? 
And then when I heard it, I was 

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blown away because like, you 
really don't know what people 

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are going through. 
You really don't know what 

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they're struggling with, what 
has happened in their life. 

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Like, and you know, it's just so
great to see how you really have

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like you started telling your 
testimony and I've seen you like

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give it other places and do 
stuff like you really are trying

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to like glorify God's name and 
show his goodness of what he 

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brought you out of. 
And I just absolutely love that.

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Like, I love that, but OK, going
into you're you're spiraling. 

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You're not in a good place, but 
you meet your husband, Levi. 

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Yes, meet my husband, Levi, 
sweet Levi. 

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And he was in the fraternity, 
which, you know, surprisingly, 

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like, I really wasn't into that.
Like I didn't that put up red 

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flags for me because just, you 
know, I talked to a lot of boys 

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in college. 
Usually the frat boys were like,

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you know, kind of rude, kind of 
gross. 

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And now I'm thinking I was like,
I was portraying myself as 

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gross, but like, I didn't want 
to grow sky. 

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It's kind of a double standard. 
But, you know, that's just where

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I was. 
But I meant Levi. 

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Yeah. 
We started. 

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We he would took me on a date 
and pretty quickly a couple 

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dates in really I knew that I 
really liked his character and 

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he really liked mine and all of 
this and I still have always 

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been like very sweet like to 
people very like loving giving. 

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You know, when I'm healthy, you 
know, we kind of hate Levi's not

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my savior and I'm not his savior
by any means, but by the point 

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that I had met Levi, this was 
about a year after that I got 

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plugged in at South side 
Pleasant Hill. 

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My friend Mackenzie Pellegrino 
shout out to her. 

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She told me about South side 
Pleasant Hill and I started 

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going and the first day I went 
Jay Ray and Danielle are like 

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come on girl, come over for 
lunch and they just really 

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quickly like got to know me. 
They, they brought me in. 

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They never once like judged me. 
I mean, I'm sure they did in 

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their brain maybe. 
I don't know. 

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I mean, it'd be hard not to, but
they never showed that. 

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I mean, they just really took me
in and started to start that 

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discipleship process. 
I started going to their small 

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groups. 
So I'm still being somewhat 

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crazy, not as crazy, but still 
provocative, reeling it back. 

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But like, you know, I was still 
provocative and I was still 

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struggling with the porn 
addiction. 

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This was the time though, you 
know where I am getting closer 

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to the Lord say that conviction 
started to get heavier, like 

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heavier and heavier. 
We both, you know, we start 

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going to church together now we,
you know, we living together 

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like this is not good. 
We were not, we just we really 

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abused God's grace on mine and 
Levi's one year dating 

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anniversary. 
We had gone on a date, we had 

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come back home and we we got 
like high together. 

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We took the D8 gummies and I 
remember in that moment where I 

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just kind of looked at him and 
the the Lord clear as day spoke 

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to me in this moment and was 
like, this is this is not your 

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husband. 
You're looking at like this is 

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not your husband. 
And if you don't cut this out, 

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like you know what you're doing,
if you don't cut this out, like 

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you're done. 
And so I got really freaked out 

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because at that moment, I, I 
really, it's just like when you 

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know, you know, and I, I knew 
that he was the one, but I also 

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knew that I wasn't going to do 
nothing that the Lord didn't 

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want me to do. 
And so like I said, I was, I was

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like, I was inebriated, like I 
was high. 

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And so was he. 
And I remember I was almost 

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having a full blown panic 
attack, anxiety attack, and I 

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tried to wake him up and he I 
couldn't wake him up. 

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I could have, I could have hit 
him in the head with a bat. 

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He just was not waking up. 
And I look back and I'm so glad 

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that he didn't because it was 
just this moment where like I 

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didn't have anywhere to run. 
Like I didn't have anybody else 

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to talk to except for the Lord. 
And I was just like praying for 

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the first time with just this 
like gut level honesty. 

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This was the first time where my
chain started to lit. 

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Like they lifted off of me. 
Like I for the first time in my 

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life, I had no desire to watch 
porn. 

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None at all. 
Like I could not do this in my 

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own strength. 
There were several times in my 

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life where I tried to give up 
porn. 

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I would go one 2-3 months 
without it and I would always 

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fall back into it. 
But until like the like by the 

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power of the Holy Spirit, I was 
like I'm done. 

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I don't want it. 
I don't want nothing to do with 

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it. 
I don't even want to listen to 

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the music. 
I don't want to watch Love 

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Island no more or whatever all 
them stupid shows are like. 

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I can't be watching those. 
Like I just, I had that for the 

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first time in my life. 
I had this desire for like 

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righteousness, for holiness, 
like, just to like be fully 

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aligned like with the Lord and 
what he wanted me to do. 

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Because I was praying like 
crazy. 

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I couldn't even talk to Levi. 
I let him know that I was real 

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anxious and I was having a hard 
time and I was like, my brain's 

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going crazy. 
But that's about all he knew. 

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He didn't know, like, why I was 
praying. 

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I was talking to mom, people in 
my life who I knew were closely 

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aligned with the Lord. 
And so I very quickly got the 

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confirmation from the Lord and 
through the people, because if 

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you're getting advice from 
people who aren't aligned with 

443
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,480
the Holy Spirit, you gonna get 
bad advice. 

444
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:46,280
But just a lot of people in my 
life knew they were like Levi's 

445
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,200
your husband, like Levi, You're 
supposed to marry Levi. 

446
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,240
And so, and I got then to, you 
know, the Lord revealed to me 

447
00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,000
that like you and Levi have got 
to follow me. 

448
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,840
You have got to obey my word. 
And you've got to do this the 

449
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,400
right way. 
If you're going to be married. 

450
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,240
You can't, you can't take porn 
addictions into marriage. 

451
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,520
You can't take alcoholism into 
marriage. 

452
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,200
You can't take partying into 
marriage. 

453
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,880
You going to have kids. 
You're going, you know, you're 

454
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,720
drunk on follow me and be my 
servant and we're going to do 

455
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,280
this my way. 
And so I finally got a piece 

456
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960
about that. 
And so we, you know, we change 

457
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,280
things up and, you know, we 
still made mistakes along the 

458
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:37,800
way, but that was the moment 
when we really both kind of at 

459
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:43,000
the same time, me first, but him
very shortly after. 

460
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,480
We both really just surrendered 
it all. 

461
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Yeah. 
That was my like, come to Jesus 

462
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:55,800
moment where I like it just 
eradicated any sort of desire I 

463
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960
had to do bad things, like to 
sin. 

464
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600
You know, that was my moment 
where I was like, I don't want 

465
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520
no part in it so. 
That is amazing. 

466
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,240
So ever since of June 2023, I 
basically have seen y'all at 

467
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,960
church. 
I mean, y'all are really plugged

468
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,680
in. 
And it just goes to show you 

469
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,240
like when you get plugged in 
places and people are pouring 

470
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,600
into you and like you really 
start to surrender those like 

471
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320
hurts, habits and hang ups that 
you have and all this stuff like

472
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,840
God will start working on you. 
Because like I even texted you a

473
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
few months ago and I was like, 
hey girl, like would you like to

474
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,440
join our photography team? 
And you're like, this is crazy 

475
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,200
because yes, I've been thinking 
about it. 

476
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,760
I've been praying about like all
this stuff and you know, like 

477
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,640
y'all have just really jumped in
and Pleasant Hill, Southside 

478
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Pleasant Hill. 
I love the community up 

479
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Southside, Pleasant Hill, 
because it's still that that 

480
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,080
that that that feel of all of 
our campuses because we have it 

481
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,440
across the board. 
But it's just so more family 

482
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,360
like because it's so much 
smaller and it's just awesome. 

483
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,720
But you know, with y'all serving
and stuff, we are opening a new 

484
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,640
campus. 
So are y'all. 

485
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,520
What's y'all's plans for that? 
So yes, I, so Levi and I, we've 

486
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,640
been going to Pleasant Hill for 
4 1/2 years now. 

487
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,880
We absolutely love it. 
I've been gone for 5 1/2 years. 

488
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Like only a few months after 
they opened, I started to go. 

489
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:25,240
When I tell you I literally in 
my entire life would I have been

490
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,160
leaving this church, I would 
have said heck naw to the naw, 

491
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,920
naw. 
Like I just love it. 

492
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,040
I love my pastors. 
I love Josh, I love Pat, I love 

493
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,920
the congregation, like just the 
body of believers are small 

494
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080
group like I'm so in love with 
it. 

495
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,680
And so I just knew this past New
Year's, we had our little church

496
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,480
meeting, you know, the 
projections for the for the next

497
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,800
year. 
And you know, they're they're 

498
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,520
talking about their plans and 
then they're like, oh, we're 

499
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,760
going to launch a New South side
campus and we're like, what? 

500
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Like, Oh my gosh, so cool. 
Like where is it going to be? 

501
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:12,200
And Southside Hawkinsville pops 
on the screen and my entire body

502
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:18,200
just like lights up on fire. 
Like that feeling of like heat 

503
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,040
just rises from my toes to my 
head. 

504
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,760
Because behind the scenes, like 
my my parents, my brother, my 

505
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,720
dad, they farm in Hawkinsville. 
Like I grew up going to some 

506
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480
churches in Hawkinsville, like a
lot of them. 

507
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:38,120
And so I immediately at that 
moment felt a calling. 

508
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,840
We were going to be going and I 
was like, ain't no way. 

509
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,720
Ain't no daggone way. 
I'm suppressing that. 

510
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,960
I don't know if you've ever like
felt called to do something and 

511
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,360
you're like, I'm just hearing 
things. 

512
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,560
That wasn't the Lord. 
The Lord. 

513
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,960
Was trying to talk yourself. 
Out of it, yeah. 

514
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,920
I'm like, that was not. 
So we get in the truck and. 

515
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,240
And I asked Levi, I was like, 
well, what did you think about 

516
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,800
that? 
That's all I said was what did 

517
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,920
you think about that? 
And he was like, yeah, just. 

518
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,680
I've always had this feeling 
that S, S is going to expand 

519
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,080
southward and we'd be called to 
go there and I was alive. 

520
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,080
Well. 
Crap. 

521
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920
This confirmation is 
confirmation. 

522
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,840
So we decided to move. 
So we just moved to 

523
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,640
Hawkinsville. 
I'm not going to lie. 

524
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Like obedience is hard. 
Like, I am literally, I still 

525
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,680
have probably a year to go 
before we make the transition, 

526
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:42,240
but I am almost mourning, Yeah, 
the loss of going to South Side 

527
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,960
Pleasant Hill because I love it.
And in a sense, you know, like I

528
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,480
said, Levi's not my savior in 
Pleasant Hill, is not my savior.

529
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Josh Ray's not my savior. 
Pat Chastain at my savior. 

530
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,280
But that gum, I love them. 
Yeah, I love them so. 

531
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,880
It is very exciting, you know, 
but just that close in that 

532
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,680
chapter, which it will never 
fully be closed because you'll 

533
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,160
always be a part of pleasant 
heel and all of our campuses are

534
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,480
close knit, but just doing 
something new is always scary. 

535
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,240
I. 
Think too. 

536
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,840
Just like thinking in my brain, 
like I'm gonna go here forever. 

537
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
I don't know. 
I guess in my brain I told Josh 

538
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,480
the other day I wanted him to do
my funeral. 

539
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,640
And he was like, girl, I'm gonna
be like, I hope I'm not around 

540
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,000
for your funeral. 
Looks like you think, yeah, it's

541
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,680
gonna be the same forever, but 
and it's not again, it's not 

542
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,960
about just my pastors, but I 
just, I love it. 

543
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,280
I love it so much. 
I love the people there so. 

544
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,480
So basically just to sum up and 
just maybe go ahead and start 

545
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:47,120
closing out, what would be 
something that you hope that a 

546
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,720
listener on here maybe takes or 
maybe something that you didn't 

547
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,960
hit at all, or maybe just 
whatever God's leading you to 

548
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,960
say at this point, How would you
like to close out this podcast? 

549
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:04,840
I would like to just say if 
they're are any listeners who do

550
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:11,520
struggle with pornography or 
really anything just to 

551
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,199
encourage you. 
I mean, obviously you're 

552
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:19,280
listening to this podcast for a 
reason, whether it's just that 

553
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:25,120
you've been following along with
Alexis or maybe the the title 

554
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,159
kind of intrigued you or what 
have you. 

555
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,480
But just to encourage you, 
because I remember just in that 

556
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,560
darkness in that season, like I 
like I said, I would try to give

557
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,400
it up. 
I would try to give it up, but 

558
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:43,239
it's like by the power of the 
Holy Spirit is the only way that

559
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120
you can give it up. 
And so I just encourage anybody 

560
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,320
who's struggling. 
It could be with porn, with 

561
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:54,159
anything, with, with lust, with,
I don't know, you know, just 

562
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,200
anything, anything. 
Any hurt having or hang up 

563
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:01,040
that's? 
Right, Just keep, keep, keep 

564
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,960
getting up and going back to the
Lord. 

565
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,480
He knows you anyways. 
He knows you're messing up 

566
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,080
anyways. 
And every single time you mess 

567
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:15,000
up, I'm not saying, I'm not 
saying to abuse God's grace, but

568
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,320
I remember that feeling like 
stuck in like you can still run 

569
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:25,120
to God with that, like, and he, 
he has a redemption for you. 

570
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,240
So I I always just say like, it 
can't be done in your own 

571
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,080
strength. 
Like we're supposed to be holy, 

572
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,080
We're supposed to pursue 
righteousness, but until it's 

573
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:41,840
like you have that come to Jesus
moment where you're on your face

574
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,800
ready to to change it up and and
the Lord allows that to happen 

575
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,920
really like that's that's going 
to be the only way. 

576
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Seek Him like at at gut level 
and you will overcome it by His 

577
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,160
grace. 
Yes thank you Jesus for his 

578
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,520
grace yes so this has been an 
awesome episode. 

579
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,840
I hope you all enjoyed it as 
much as we did because I know 

580
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,840
like his presence has just been 
in this room. 

581
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:16,080
It has just flowed so well and 
I'm just so excited for y'all to

582
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,000
hear this. 
So and y'all already heard this 

583
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,280
but you know it's fun now. 
Y'all already listened to the 

584
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,720
whole episode but it's been 
great. 

585
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,600
So thank you so much for tuning 
in. 

586
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,800
Stay tuned, stay blessed and 
we'll see you next week. 

587
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,760
Bye, guys.
