1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,400 What's up, guys? My name's Alexis. 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:13,760 And I'm Abby and we're. Your host with praises in the 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,440 pod. We are super excited and we got 4 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,360 a third person with us today. You know Kim, you met Kim, 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,920 you've already heard her testimony and with her sister it 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,320 was a great time. But today we wanted to let's go 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,160 there. We are going to be talking about 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,040 smut and TV shows. This was highly requested. 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,240 And so we're going to start off in prayer and then we're going 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:33,400 to jump right in. So here we go. 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Lord Heavenly Father, thank you for the space that we get to 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,480 come in and talk about you and all that you have done in our 13 00:00:39,480 --> 00:00:41,440 lives. Lord God, how you just keep 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,880 pruning us and just revealing more to us to make us a line 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,200 better with you and what you have for our lives. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,760 Lord God, we just pray that this speaks to us and through US 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,280 today. We just pray that you do not it 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,760 but you and we just pray that this always glorifies you and 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,840 that this helps somebody on the other end just grow closer with 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,440 you and Jesus. I pray Amen, Amen, Amen. 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,400 So I told y'all like I was requested about smut. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Like I had many women. They were like, hey, if you're 23 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,400 doing let's go there and like controversial topics, can you 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,560 talk about smut? And I'm like, well, I'm not much 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,360 of A reader, but. And then I talked to Abby. 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:28,320 And I said, what is that? So I was like, OK, I know you. 27 00:01:28,320 --> 00:01:30,240 Like to read? Kim has a past. 28 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,000 So Kim has current struggles, Yeah. 29 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,760 That's good. So I asked you and you were 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,240 like, that is something that you had went through and like was 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,520 convicted about. So we're going to just kind of 32 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:46,280 talk about it and dive into it. For me, I add, I added TV shows 33 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,880 on here because like I said, I'm not much of A reader, but I have 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,440 been convicted about shows, like terribly convicted. 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,040 I've even talked about Shameless like on here multiple times. 36 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Like that was one of my biggest like struggles and temptations. 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,120 Was not going to watch Shameless so. 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Yeah, I don't me nor you really grew up as readers much so like 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,640 TV shows and then especially back in the day just like 40 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:14,560 videos, just certain things out on the Internet that was more 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:18,560 popular during our time or coming about that I guess I 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,040 struggled with more definitely than the reading part. 43 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,600 So I'm excited to have you and learn that side of it and talk 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840 about that side of it because I literally had no idea what that 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,720 term even meant like this kind of how to explain it to me. 46 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,600 And I know you'll be able to explain it too, so. 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,040 They make the books real cutesy on the front so no one even has 48 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,000 a clue what you're reading. So very secretive. 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,360 Yes, I was just. About It's like, if you know, 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,320 you know. Every book I've seen I'm like, 51 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:46,720 oh, that is so cute. Or it looks like sometimes 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,120 they're like a little like illustration more so where it's 53 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,400 like a cute girl or whatever, and then they're like, but it's 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,800 filthy on the inside. Well, here's the thing about, I 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,480 mean, just even TV shows, the books, like what you're saying 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,240 is kind of secretive. A lot of this is done behind 57 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,600 closed doors. So I think it's really easy, not 58 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,000 just for people that don't have a relationship with Christ, but 59 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,240 for people that do have a relationship with Christ to 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,120 struggle with these things because it is kind of done 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,480 behind closed doors. And it is not something that 62 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,560 you're seeing outwardly and that other people are seeing 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 outwardly. And so it's it's a little bit 64 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,000 more of a struggle because not everybody has to know. 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Yeah. And I mean with Kindles now, 66 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,360 like you have no idea what people are reading. 67 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Like I see like people on the beach or at the pool or stuff 68 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,840 and they're reading like they're Kindles and you're like, they 69 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,920 literally could be reading porn over there and you have no idea. 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,480 Which I did want to say back up because you just use that word 71 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,840 is that I probably would not recommend like having little 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,520 ears today. Like if you listen to in your 73 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,880 car with the kids or anything like that, Like this is going to 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,320 be a little bit more for the old people. 75 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:51,920 That's a good that's. Good. 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,520 That's good. That's why we that's why we 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,680 brought her on. Yeah, that's for sure. 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,960 That's it. But so me and Kim kind of had a 79 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,440 little different definition of smut. 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,120 So maybe like what would you think is like smut? 81 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:09,040 So for to me, it really is just as soon as like you are going to 82 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,320 get into a more bedroom scene, whether that's wherever they do 83 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,079 that. But just one scene to me is like 84 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,880 the definition of smut. Like you have gotten into a 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,360 dirty like and they are going to go into details like that's what 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,240 those books are all for is to get you all hot and bothered. 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,480 So to me it's just one scene. But you were like, I was got to 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,720 be like 50 Shades. Well. 89 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,400 Yes. OK, see that's what I was. 90 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,200 Thinking I was thinking 50 Shades. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,600 I read that book in high school and I remember telling you no 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,880 reason reading that book in high school and taking it to school 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,160 at that. But then when you were talking 94 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,600 about it, you were like the notebook, like you brought up 95 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,080 the notebook and how they, you know, have that scene and so. 96 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,800 And I think that I mean, and a lot of people are going to have 97 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,360 their own justifications. And I really know that on the 98 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,120 other side of like now that I have moved passes is that there 99 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,880 was a lot of justifications or if I'll skip those couple pages 100 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,480 or I'll skim it. Like I'm not like it's not doing 101 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,080 anything to me. So everyone's going to have 102 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,480 their different versions. I think that is like maybe what 103 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,480 someone would call prudish is that like that one scene was 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,360 enough for me to call it that book. 105 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,160 So it it's going to be dependent on the person. 106 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,640 Yeah, definitely, because I really didn't. 107 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:28,880 It is it is facts. Because when I was thinking 108 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,840 about this, I'm like, oh, full on like calling Hoover's saying 109 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:35,760 nothing, all or nothing where every page. 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,280 But then like when you break it down like that, I'm like, no, 111 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:41,040 it's the same concept. Like it's the exact same thing. 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,600 So I remember when we first started talking about you coming 113 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 on, you kind of mentioned Stephanie kind of had a, you 114 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,080 know, a big part of this conviction for you. 115 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,360 So can you tell us a little bit about that? 116 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,800 Yes, I would say like, you know, we did that episode of me and 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,480 Stephanie, we're definitely accountability partners these 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,560 days is like because we used to be where it'd be like, I just 119 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,520 read this really good book. You got to add it to your list 120 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,680 and then like we would, you know, kind of be like our own 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,480 little book club. And I, I remember it was 122 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,960 sometime like last year that she was, she said that at church 123 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,560 they were talking about there's nowhere in the Bible that says 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,080 like entertainment. And it was just like, there's no 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,520 place in your life for that. And like, you can take that how 126 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,160 you want it to, but it just is, it's like, that's not scriptural 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,160 that we have like these like me time and like times where we're 128 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,640 reading books. And I was able to kind of almost 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,320 like at first, I don't want to hear that. 130 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,320 And then I kept going on and on in my head that was like, I'm 131 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,320 not called to entertainment. That isn't like a built in time 132 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:47,800 of my day that I have to be entertained or sit down and 133 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,800 watch a lot of TV. Like there's nowhere in the 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Bible that says anything about those things like that. 135 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,960 Even when he calls us to rest, it doesn't mean three hours on 136 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,320 the on the couch of watching TV. So that kept playing in my head. 137 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:05,480 And then I just did kind of have my own convictions. 138 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,720 And she did two of the we weren't even able to for a 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,560 while. I would put post like what I was 140 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 reading or like, say this was great, like you should read 141 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,480 this. But I was being very careful 142 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,240 about which ones I was posting because I don't want to know 143 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,160 what I'm reading. Like if it's those. 144 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,440 So that was another part, and this is a nerdy thing to say, 145 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:33,080 but last year I read 66 books. So what I would say, but I can 146 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,560 look at that whole list, 'cause I kept a list of them. 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Over 50% of those I can't tell you right now like, oh, you 148 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,480 should read that without saying a little bit of a disclaimer of 149 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,720 a little bit of this and that. It's fine though. 150 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Like if you can handle that citizen so. 151 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,680 And I think it's funny how, because I do the same thing when 152 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,600 the Lords trying to tell me something and, and, and it might 153 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,640 not be something I think is terrible, I always. 154 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Try to just. I don't have time to listen to 155 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:03,240 that right now. I, you know, it's really not 156 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,000 that bad. And we start doing that 157 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,400 justification process of why we want to keep it in our life and 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,120 why it's OK to keep it in our life. 159 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,040 So I'm glad you brought that up because, you know, I struggle 160 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,360 with the same thing of, well, it doesn't do this or it's not 161 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,680 making me, you know, go this way or, you know, it, it doesn't 162 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,520 look too bad on the outside. So I I really don't want to hear 163 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,920 that right now. When you were saying the 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,720 justification, like I literally think like if you have to 165 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,800 justify anything, like you probably shouldn't be doing it. 166 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 And so, like I even told you the first time you came over, I 167 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,080 think I still have those wine bottles. 168 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,159 Yes, OK. So I have like a wine area in my 169 00:08:40,159 --> 00:08:45,040 house and I used to have me and Grey's wedding book. 170 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,400 It was people signed wine bottles. 171 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,560 And so every time somebody came over, I'm like, hey, we I don't, 172 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,400 I don't drink, but I can't throw them away because they're our 173 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,960 wedding guest book. And I just felt so bad about 174 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,560 that. And I always had to justify why 175 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,080 I had that. And like, I started feeling like 176 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,840 a hypocrite almost, because it's like, well, if I don't drink and 177 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,400 I have to tell people, why not just get rid of them? 178 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,600 Yeah. Like, it's not like on me and 179 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:12,240 Greg's anniversary, we're going to open up one of those bottles 180 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,440 of wine and drink them. Like, especially now that he's 181 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,320 sober too and like me. So it's like that's a whole 182 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:19,920 different thing. This isn't a let's go there 183 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,560 drinking edition, but let's go there justification. 184 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,000 Yeah, for sure. Yeah. 185 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,320 So I'm glad that you said that because I feel like there's a 186 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,240 lot of times, a lot of sins where we're like, oh, but we're 187 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,520 not like we're not doing it like that or we don't, we're not 188 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,160 reading, like we're not reading those parts, right. 189 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:38,480 There's always that. But kind of going into those 190 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,040 parts, like I told you last week that I wanted to watch Sons 191 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,360 again, Sons of Anarchy and you're. 192 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Like also, as we're mentioning all of the things that we do 193 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,000 struggle with, don't go looking for him, don't go try them out 194 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,840 just because like we liked them back in the day. 195 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,640 Yes, like I've talked about Shameless, here's another one 196 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:55,880 that I just started struggling with. 197 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,920 But I told you last week that I wanted to watch Sons of Anarchy 198 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,560 again. And you're like, Alexis, I don't 199 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:02,240 think should. And I'm like, oh girl, it'll be 200 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,120 fine. Like I think it'll be fun. 201 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,720 She was like, they cuss every other word and there's terrible 202 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,680 things. Well, I was like, I'll just give 203 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,400 it a try. And then I'd literally try to do 204 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,480 the same thing that you said, like just skip over that, those 205 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,640 parts. So I look away and like that. 206 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,920 And then like I have my computer. 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:21,480 Like when I'm over, I'm interested. 208 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,600 But literally the very first episode I felt so convicted 209 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,400 because I never could look up. And then I'm like, couldn't even 210 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 watch. Like I had my ears covered. 211 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,920 I'm like, Oh my gosh. So then I'm like, well, there 212 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,800 went that. Like it was a good show back 213 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,960 then, but it's not helping me with my walk at all. 214 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:45,240 Like truly was pulling me away from God instead of pushing me 215 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,200 closer to Him. Well, what I've realized now, 216 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,200 especially watching TV shows like that, when I get into it, 217 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,920 and it's not like, oh, I'm just trying to be so good and not do 218 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,440 this. No, what happens when I start 219 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,720 seeing those things is I really get convicted because what's 220 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,960 usually happening in those shows is what's really going on in the 221 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:09,920 world and in families lives that are struggling and that are 222 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,000 going through it and that are going through divorces or 223 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,480 there's adultery or, you know, fortification things that are 224 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,280 really happening and it hurts your heart. 225 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,840 You're like, man, I know this is just ATV show and this isn't 226 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,840 real. But when you're on this side of 227 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,160 Christ, you see the darkness in the world and you realize, no, 228 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,240 that's stuff really does go on and there's really people 229 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,080 hurting from it. And so it's like it, it puts a 230 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,960 tear in my heart nowadays. It's not like I'm watching it 231 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,360 going, oh, this just sounds bad or this just looks bad. 232 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,400 I can't do this. No, it like brings about what 233 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,920 Christ puts in my heart for the things and the people of this 234 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,000 world. And you don't want to see that 235 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,800 anymore or be entertained by it. Yeah. 236 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,440 Like, well, I always say this, like I've said this so many 237 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,920 times, but like what you put in is really going to come out. 238 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Like if you're only filling your mind with filth and just cussing 239 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,200 and violent scenes and all this, like your temper is probably 240 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,360 going to be less. Like you're not going to have 241 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,320 patience because you're just going to be like almost 242 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,480 triggered. And I felt like that last week 243 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,160 because Sense of Anarchy is very violent, very violent. 244 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,760 And like I would just like feel like I was on the edge of my 245 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,920 seat the whole entire time. Like Greg would say something. 246 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,320 I'm like snapping and I'm like, where did that just come from? 247 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,680 Or like the cussing. I like terribly. 248 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,720 I was a terrible cusser. I find videos of myself from 249 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,520 like BC and I cussed every other word, every other word that came 250 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,000 out of my mouth. So not saying that like I 251 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,640 watched the show and instantly just started cussing again, but 252 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:44,440 it was like I would start catching myself, like starting 253 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,760 to say something or like, you know, think it like, you know, I 254 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,400 don't know. So it's just like because of 255 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,400 just that small one episode that I watched, it was like it's it 256 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:58,160 opened a doorway, like it gave Satan a foothold in my life. 257 00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,840 And if I would have continued, I'm just like. 258 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,680 I'm so glad you brought that up because when we talked about 259 00:13:02,680 --> 00:13:05,840 doing this episode, that's the one thing that came to my mind 260 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,320 was guard your heart and your minds. 261 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,120 And that was Proverbs 420. And I literally wrote this down 262 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:16,040 was it says it's 423 Above all else, guard your heart for 263 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,200 everything you do flows from it. And it's so true. 264 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,920 It's like whatever we're putting in our minds and in our heart 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,360 and being entertained by it really does start to flow 266 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,520 outwardly from your life, like what you're saying. 267 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,640 And you don't even realize it until you're in it. 268 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,120 And then you're going, oh, my goodness. 269 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,120 OK, wait, let me back up what's really going on because now I'm 270 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,480 acting or saying things, you know, like what I've been 271 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,600 putting into my mind. So I'm so glad you brought that. 272 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,200 Up yeah, last night when we were we went to one way last night 273 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,360 and it's like a Celebrate Recovery, but it's just a 274 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040 different thing. But my mom gave her testimony 275 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,360 and you read like these 10 principles and the very first 276 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,400 one and it says if God's against it, so am I. 277 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,120 It's like, how many times do we know that God's against 278 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,000 something, but we're like, but he's not, you know, here today. 279 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,880 Like he's not walking it. He walked it 2000 years ago, 280 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,800 like all this stuff. And it's like, no, like if he 281 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,520 was here, he'd be against it, you know? 282 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:15,800 We also have decided, like everybody has kind of decided, 283 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,560 that God got lenient from like the Old Testament to now, He got 284 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,400 lenient. No, we did let her cook. 285 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,400 Yeah, that's good. That was good, girl. 286 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,800 Yeah, Well, just working through like the Old Testament right 287 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,920 now, I just really am like, it is so apparent how much God 288 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,000 hated sin. And that's why we look at like 289 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:39,120 the Old Testament as being like, he was angry and he was mean and 290 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,880 all that, but he is literally showing us what was wrong. 291 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,360 Yeah, what the consequence was, which it was harsher back then, 292 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,080 but that's because we didn't have Jesus yet. 293 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,640 But he still hates those same things. 294 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:51,840 He has not changed. Wow. 295 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,280 So that that is US generationally just. 296 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,160 Oh, for sure. I think like sexual, your sexual 297 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,120 freedom has become a huge thing and huge issue, like what you're 298 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,080 saying. And we find ways to make it seem 299 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,920 like God allows certain things or is OK with certain things, 300 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,200 but that's just us justifying it because it his word doesn't, you 301 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,760 know, So that's so good that you brought that up. 302 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,240 But I want to kind of touch on, you know, we're talking about 303 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,800 maybe TV shows and things like that. 304 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,680 But I guess as far as you from the reading aspect, like what it 305 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,600 would do mentally for you, because I know when I watch 306 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,920 something, what comes in what I hear I'm saying, but I don't 307 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,440 really know the side of it from reading it and reading the words 308 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,440 or reading what they're saying. And then you're using your 309 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,800 imagination to go there. So kind of touch on I guess how 310 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,200 that is versus the how we watch it? 311 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,200 Yeah, I think for me, I do struggle with like, jealousy. 312 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,080 And that's like just kind of a blanket statement of like, I'm 313 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:50,360 jealous that you went on this trip. 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,800 I'm jealous that you have this beautiful car and beautiful 315 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,760 house and yadda yadda. I was looking at the 316 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,000 relationships in the books and be like, I'm jealous that she's 317 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,280 treated like this. I'm jealous that like it's so 318 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,080 perfect the way they work that out or like how obviously it's a 319 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,520 quick turnover in a book, but how quickly they worked that out 320 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,600 or how easy that is to do those things. 321 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,640 So I think for me it just was like a comparing like my life, 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,000 my relationship. Not that we have like crazy 323 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:21,000 problems, but it just was a thief of joy for me because it 324 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,520 kind of did start to be like, why can't you be like this? 325 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Why can't I be like that? So I think it just was that was 326 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,720 my biggest stronghold is just comparison and stealing my joy. 327 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,000 That's good, that is. And because in those books, I 328 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,640 mean, half the time it is a woman writer, you know, and 329 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,360 she's like literally putting the perfect bow on it. 330 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,280 And comparison is a thief of joy. 331 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,280 So like when we are reading that, we're like, man, why can't 332 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,000 my wife be like that or whatever? 333 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,080 So I do get that. And I think like the final, to 334 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,920 me, the final kind of like straw on all of it was that I started 335 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,600 to realize because you can't read 66 books or listen, I had 336 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,040 to do a lot of audiobooks. You can't do those things 337 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,160 without it stealing time from somewhere else. 338 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,520 And a lot of it was from my own kids. 339 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,359 It was, I'd get so agitated. It was like, I'd start being 340 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,000 like, this is my meantime or, you know, like I, I don't want 341 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,200 to do that because I'm listening to this or I'm reading this. 342 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,440 Just give me 10 more minutes. And it was stealing time from 343 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,839 them. So it's going to take time from 344 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,359 somewhere else. And then the big place where I 345 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,880 know where it was stealing time was time with God. 346 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,960 I, I was reading way more books than I was reading of the Bible. 347 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,800 Like I definitely was not sitting down and giving two 348 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,080 hours of reading time to God. Like you're going to do a 15 349 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,600 minutes with God and be like, yeah, I've read 3 chapters. 350 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,960 That's a lot to digest. Read 3 chapters within 40 351 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,080 minutes. Like, yeah, let's just say. 352 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,040 So you're a quick reader. Yeah. 353 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,840 And I am a very great reader. But it just was, it's like 354 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,240 there's it's stealing time from somewhere. 355 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,560 Else, absolutely. And I love how you did just say 356 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,560 like, you can easily read, you know, of hours and it's on a 357 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,520 time. But like with God, it's like 358 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:06,400 you're counting down the minutes. 359 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,520 Oh yeah, I got that. Like checked that box today. 360 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,360 Spent some little time with them, but it's like if you spent 361 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,920 three hours reading a book, you're about reading the whole 362 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,960 Testament. Oh yeah, The way you read, girl. 363 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,920 Not right. Just read them. 3 challengers. 364 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,640 I love that you brought up the jealousy aspect and the way they 365 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,480 portray certain images in those books. 366 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,960 Because then I just think about God's word and it's so funny 367 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,440 because it's so opposite. Like if you really think about 368 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,360 it and you look at like even all of the disciples lives and the 369 00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:41,600 people that followed him, how it's so true and real and raw 370 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,320 and like what we struggle with today, what they still struggled 371 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 with the back then. And it wasn't this pretty 372 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:52,160 perfect picture, But in the end there is that freedom from our 373 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,080 struggles in this life and that's through Christ. 374 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,680 But it's like, if you want a real life book, like you want to 375 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,320 see what we really struggle with, you want to see like how 376 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,680 we make it through this life, read that book, you know, 377 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,920 because that's the that's the one book out there that. 378 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,240 Finds that way and there it goes. 379 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,280 You'll find you're gonna find it like what you were looking for. 380 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,880 It's just you might have to read through some genealogy first. 381 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,600 But I didn't say right but. You know, go ahead and read 382 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,040 that. Actually, don't just skip out 383 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,120 and just go ahead and read it. But it's like the real estate 384 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,000 book out there if you really think about it. 385 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Absolutely. I really like that you. 386 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,200 Were saying, you know it wasn't just about these like sex 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,240 scenes, right? Like it? 388 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,240 Really. Wasn't it? 389 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Wasn't like it's really you just started comparing like 390 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,920 relationships or like this life or how they handled situations 391 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,480 and all this stuff. And like when I was thinking 392 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,240 about smut, I was just thinking like those scenes, but. 393 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,280 Honestly, I think a lot of people would say the same thing. 394 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,640 I don't think that they aren't necessarily searching out for 395 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,000 sexual scenes. That's not why we watch romance 396 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,200 movies necessarily either. I mean, I know different people 397 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,720 have different struggles, but that's that's not something that 398 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,240 I do struggle with. And again, like I said, that is 399 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,840 for some other people. But anyway, that's not what I 400 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,920 was reading it for. I really was looking for maybe 401 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,960 like that slow burn like I did enjoy that but of like the build 402 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,480 up but. It really was just like being 403 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,520 entertained and just like going somewhere else. 404 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,360 And so like you said, that's filling your mind with something 405 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,480 that is not God is not like I can't. 406 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,200 If you're going through a hard time, I can't be like, I read 407 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,280 this good romance book that'll make you feel better. 408 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,760 No, I can I can tell you right now that you could go read Psalm 409 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,720 91 and you'll feel like God is with you in your suffering. 410 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,160 Like that's going to give you one more peace than this ROM 411 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,000 com. Yeah. 412 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,720 Yeah, I'm glad you said you you like to go there, there. 413 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,200 Like when you were reading those books. 414 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,000 It's almost like you try to go to another place because these 415 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,240 are some things that I wrote down. 416 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,920 It's like we're always searching for like true peace or to feel 417 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,880 accepted or, you know, being a different mindset or just 418 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,000 desiring anything that almost like feeds our souls. 419 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,040 I feel like a lot of people are always searching for that. 420 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,560 And we've talked about this at Life Group and you brought it 421 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,600 up. And it's like, because we're 422 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,760 searching for the one thing and we don't even realize it that 423 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,160 would give us all of that. And at the end of the day, 424 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,800 that's Christ. And so, and it's so cool. 425 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,800 I found the best like quote by Billy Graham. 426 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,120 I love some Billy Graham, but it says he said we cannot fill our 427 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,120 minds with bad television programs or books or other 428 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,040 things that poison our minds and then expect to go live 429 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,720 victorious Christian lives. But this is the best part, he 430 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,040 said, would you put garbage into your mouth and expect to stay 431 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,400 healthy? So why would you put garbage 432 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,000 into your mind, eyes and your thoughts and expect your soul to 433 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,560 stay pure? And so it's like, that's so true 434 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,400 that we are using other things to try to find that peace, to 435 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,520 try to feel accepted, to try to go there in our minds, to try to 436 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,880 just bring about that peace in our lives. 437 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720 And it's like we're it's like a never ending matter battle 438 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,360 because we're going to put that stuff, that garbage in our mind, 439 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,040 expect to still live a victorious Christian life. 440 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:13,120 But really our souls are actually being damaged because 441 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,520 we're putting that garbage in there. 442 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,600 So it's like a never ending battle that you're going to be 443 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 facing. So I'm so glad you brought that 444 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 up because I just feel like that's something that we are 445 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,680 always searching for and we're not going to find that until we 446 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,360 give our lives to Christ. Yeah, going off of that, I was 447 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,160 thinking about because even we just did a sermon series about 448 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,720 it more recently. I can't remember which sermon 449 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,360 series it was, but we're more so talking about Philippians 48 450 00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,320 where is like brothers and sisters, whatever's true, 451 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,320 whatever's noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, 452 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,520 whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable, if anything is 453 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,720 excellent or praiseworthy, think about those things. 454 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,000 And that's exactly what you're saying is like, we're not going 455 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,480 to put that garbage in our eyes and our mouths and our minds, 456 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,680 but yet like God is specifically saying whatever is these things 457 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,160 fill their mind with that lies. And that's one of the reasons 458 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,080 why I was like, I can't really talk about those types of books 459 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,480 because I've gotten to the point where if I am going to read, I 460 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,320 want it to be like a leadership book or something that's going 461 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,600 to, like, truly bring me closer to Christ. 462 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,960 Now, Like, fans first love it. But that was like, one of those, 463 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,480 like, leadership things that I was reading. 464 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,720 So like, that's why I was like, yeah. 465 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,800 But I don't know what that is. Fans first girl it is so good 466 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,120 it's. Awesome. 467 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,680 I'm so glad we we brought Kim on today because like TV shows 468 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,680 reading well, she knows about it. 469 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,080 Because Seth had to read it too. Yes, like so. 470 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:41,240 We had to read it as a group. If it's not like Disney or 471 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:46,640 Disney's Disney's right now, for the past two years of my life, 472 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,160 yeah, I probably don't know what y'all are talking about. 473 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,360 Well, that's good, girl. That's good. 474 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:52,360 That's excellent. Oh, good. 475 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,000 Yeah, I don't. Know, I mean, even some of the 476 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,560 kids stuff out there. So yeah, I mean, you even got to 477 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,040 be careful on that aspect. You know, one day it's, it's 478 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,160 crazy. Well, this is kind of like a 479 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,920 little sideways, but not really like this. 480 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,240 I love Santa Claus, like the movie Santa Claus. 481 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,720 You know what I'm saying with Tim Allen? 482 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,040 I'm telling you when that when it gets about 6 videos out, like 483 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,120 it's time to watch it, it's time to watch it. 484 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,600 But that new one where like they were the kids were spelling 485 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:24,160 Santa and they accidentally spelled it wrong and put Satan. 486 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,880 I'm like, that's a kids show. And that was like one of those 487 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,360 like, is it gap? Would it be gaslighting like 488 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,640 they're trying to gaslight you, or just like make it so subtle? 489 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,960 Right that you don't even notice it. 490 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,560 Cryptic or something so people just are so like a used to it 491 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,240 and I'm like how many other shows have done that? 492 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,160 But we didn't have the spiritual eyes to see the demonic forces 493 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,000 that was in there. I'm like, there's so many other 494 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,040 things. That's what I love with you. 495 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,320 You have sat and watched an old school shows like the girl 496 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,480 loves, like Dora and Barney and stuff like that, and like old 497 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,520 school like you're not even really like opening the door for 498 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,200 a whole lot of the new. Well, I mean, she does watch 499 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,680 some of the new stuff for sure, but I mean, I just yeah, yeah. 500 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,720 I mean, I just know about the old school. 501 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,400 I don't. Really like if I got to watch 502 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,200 it, I'll watch what I that's. Right. 503 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,440 Like, you know what? I grew up on Teletubbies. 504 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,080 OK, we're gonna watch some Teletubbies. 505 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,480 Yeah, I used to joke and I was like, man, I think it was what's 506 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,600 Sutton too? Like, right when I started, like 507 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,480 keeping her. Sometimes I'd be like, well, 508 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,840 we're going to be here watching like Jersey Shore or something. 509 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,320 And I'm like, that is filthy. Say. 510 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,560 That Florida Bama like, but doing that, you're opening the 511 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,920 door for your kids to like that stuff and see that and just be 512 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,960 mature too young. Like I just recently changed my 513 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,320 testimony to be where I was saying how at a young age, 514 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,680 people always said like I was mature beyond my years. 515 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,120 Like I was so mature. I was like an old soul and all 516 00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,440 this like, no, I was just a young kid carrying adult burdens 517 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,720 for sure. Like I was exposed to because my 518 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,120 mom was in, you know, in the streets and my my biological 519 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,280 father and all this. Like I was exposed to so many 520 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,520 things and I had to grow up faster than others. 521 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,360 So it's like fast. We need to protect our kids 522 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:16,560 innocence, you know, not just physically, like don't let 523 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,160 strangers keep your kids and don't like open those doors and 524 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,360 like whatever. Also like mentally like don't 525 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,240 let them grow up too fast. Like this world is harsh. 526 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,040 We definitely went sideways, but I am so glad we are on this 527 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,280 topic because it is so important to me. 528 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840 And it is something that me and Dexter talk about is just 529 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,680 keeping setting a kid for as long as possible because like 530 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:43,160 you like I didn't have that. And it took a lot of joy and 531 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,760 things from my life that you're just supposed to have that 532 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,320 innocence about you. And even that like childlike 533 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,680 faith that they that, you know, he talks about, about having is 534 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,600 I think just because they're meant to just be kept so pure 535 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,800 for so long and not let the world, you know, in bed in their 536 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,400 life at such an early age. And that comes from really what 537 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,440 we're talking about today, what they hear out on the radio, what 538 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,520 they see on your television show, what they hear you and 539 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,160 your spouse talking about. And it all stems kind of even 540 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,320 from what we're talking about today, what we're putting in our 541 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,760 minds, what we're reading, just everything that we wake, wake up 542 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,200 and from the start of our day start doing and seeing and 543 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,240 hearing flows from our heart. And then it like flows to our 544 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,720 family and to our kids. And I think that's one thing 545 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,480 that started happening in our society is our kids have just 546 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,840 been exposed to so much at such an early age. 547 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,640 And we're seeing how detrimental it is now, I think. 548 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,120 The easiest way is music like you can see the little kids are 549 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:51,080 like repeating so adult like that you do not have any 550 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,720 business listening to just just keep it on that worship music 551 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,120 and it you'll realize how much that flows like through your own 552 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,800 life and then through your family's life. 553 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,000 Because Cohen is 4 1/2 now and he's asking so many questions 554 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,080 about Jesus and God. And a lot of the time it happens 555 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,200 when we are listening to the radio because he's listening to 556 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,840 what I'm listening to. And so that's just another 557 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,640 example of like. Yeah, and I hope like you know 558 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600 what you're saying, you know, we, we're not judging. 559 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600 We all we're talking about this because we literally struggle 560 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,480 with it. Like so I hope that if anything, 561 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,440 when people are listening to us, especially about this topic or 562 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,200 our let's go there topics that, you know, we're talking about 563 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 this. And what I like even pray for on 564 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720 the way over here is that I hope that if somebody's listening and 565 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,640 they're needing true freedom from these things, that they 566 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,760 find it just from listening to us, because we're not coming 567 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,080 from a place from judgment. We're coming from a place of I 568 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,200 know now where the true joy is. I know now where true peace 569 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,080 lies. I know now where my soul finds 570 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 rest. And that is with Jesus Christ. 571 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200 And none of this other stuff gives you that. 572 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,800 And I pray to God that somebody hears that today and that that 573 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,960 changes their life. And that's what that won't from 574 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,840 this episode. And that's why I won't really 575 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,760 from any episode, not to be judgmental, not to say like 576 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,120 you're doing it wrong. I mean, well, technically we are 577 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240 doing it wrong. And that's why we aren't having 578 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,480 the true peace we won't. That's why we aren't, you know, 579 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,120 getting, having the victorious lives that we won't and the 580 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,840 freedom that we want and the peace that we won't is because 581 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,080 we're filling our lives with those things and not Jesus 582 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,320 Christ. And we have found that. 583 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,840 And so we hope that others see that. 584 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,720 Absolutely. I mean, most of the time, like 585 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,520 you're saying, is every episode when we do like this is 586 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,840 something that we've struggled. With. 100% like it's never, hey, 587 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,160 just because you read these books like you should be 588 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,000 condemned. So you know. 589 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,640 They're really bad. Because when me and Kim were 590 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,840 going back and forth about the book talking about I was like 591 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,920 the books on unread girl, these things was filthy. 592 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,000 Because I mean, I'm not a reader, but I've read a few, you 593 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,720 know. So with that being said, you 594 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,600 know, like how do y'all have anything that you all like kind 595 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,160 of want to close or maybe we didn't like how would y'all like 596 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:06,960 to start? Are we? 597 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,360 Closing, yeah. Wow. 598 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,800 I mean, I'm not saying we're like. 599 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Close. No, I know. 600 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640 This very second I. Just thought this has been 601 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,560 really good like I like. I'm just saying like how? 602 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,520 Like what do y'all have? Like do y'all have something in 603 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,600 your notes or like y'all have something that maybe? 604 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,200 We did have touches for 8, so yeah, you covered that one. 605 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,960 That one to you? Beat y'all to it. 606 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,600 One of the things that I have been thinking about with these 607 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,160 books is like I started struggling with lust and then 608 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,080 that those books didn't help either because you got to create 609 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,240 the person basically in your mind and like you got to figure 610 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,960 out what they look like. Because I remember reading 50 611 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,680 Shades and like I had this image of these people and then when 612 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,680 they came out with the movies, I'm like, who are? 613 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,080 These. I'm like, these are not who I 614 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080 pictured. Even the Colleen Hoover, the one 615 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,280 that just came out with Blake Lively, I'm like Justin, it 616 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,000 wasn't the one I picked. Sure, those people were. 617 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,440 What is going on? But I started realizing that, 618 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,600 like, I was like being lustful over these characters in the 619 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,200 books and because I was creating what I wanted them to look like. 620 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,960 And even when I was talking about sons the other day, we 621 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,760 were kind of talking about it in the basement. 622 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,280 And Seth was talking about this one scene of like, Jacks, like 623 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,240 in the nursery when the song was playing, blah, blah, blah. 624 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,000 And I was like, man, that's my man's. 625 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,760 And I'm like, that is not my man's. 626 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,920 Like, my husband is my man's, you know what I'm saying? 627 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,760 And Zach like check kind of I don't think he meant to check me 628 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,160 at all. But when he said this, it did 629 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,800 check me because he was like, who's your man's? 630 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,000 And like he was just playing around. 631 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,920 I was like that just like that was so terrible because really, 632 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,400 you know, like I should not be saying that about another man, 633 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440 you know, Agner or not, you know. 634 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,720 So I just have like been seeing more so like these characters in 635 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,880 these TV shows, like even the summer I turn pretty yes, I love 636 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280 them both. I love calling Rashad and 637 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Jeremiah and like I was like lusting over them. 638 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,440 I'm like, you are so good looking and it's like you can 639 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520 call people good looking, but like I was like taking it too 640 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:11,680 far almost, you know, like. But yeah, yeah, I love, I love 641 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,360 having like all of our perspectives here, yours, yours 642 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,120 and then mine too, you know, even from the shows, it kind of 643 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,880 affecting your relationship at home, OK. 644 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,920 And to me, this is Satan's number one foothold in our lives 645 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,280 and families lives because his main goal I think is to separate 646 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,240 the family. And OK, well, there's the way in 647 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,000 right there. And so that is something I 648 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320 wrote, I said, I think it's dangerous for our soul 649 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,400 marriages, especially in society. 650 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,200 It's one of Satan's greatest ways into our lives. 651 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,560 What we feed our minds with is ultimately going to shape our 652 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,040 actions. And I think that lustfulness 653 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,160 from the shows, from the books, from the things we even listen 654 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,400 to play a huge factor in marriages. 655 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,760 And I think it's like the number one thing today that are 656 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,760 separating marriages is that lustfulness, you know, going 657 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,680 outside of your home, going outside of your marriage, not 658 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:12,120 even physically, but mentally, emotionally, because then, you 659 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,000 know, and I think it's something not just men struggle with as 660 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600 far as like pornography goes, I know it's a huge struggle for 661 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:22,680 men and women that are Christians, let's say that too. 662 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,480 And it is something that they try to find freedom from. 663 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,520 And it does, it just tears apart the households and it tears 664 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,280 apart families because you get that lustful desire. 665 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,480 And it almost, it's like Satan's way of changing your viewpoint 666 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,760 on your own home. Because if he can turn you 667 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,280 against your own home, he's one. If he can turn you against your 668 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,560 own husband or wife, he's one. Because you're starting to 669 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,160 desire something outside of the home. 670 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,440 And then you're going to start living those actions out that 671 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,520 fulfills what he wants and not what God wants for your family. 672 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760 And so that's just something that, like, for me, coming into 673 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,560 this episode, was heavy on my heart and things that I knew, 674 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280 you know, come from these topics that we're talking about. 675 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Last thing and then I'll shut up because I feel like I've been 676 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,159 talking a lot. But for when you just said that 677 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,400 about the pornography, like with men or even women, like there's 678 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,480 so there's such a stigma between pornography and then the books 679 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,679 that I'm talking about, they're like, Oh well, this isn't like 680 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,840 I'm not watching it. But you know, when I told Greg 681 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,040 we were talking about this topic last night, he was like, Oh 682 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,520 yeah. Because women are like more 683 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,159 visual visual, No, men are visual more women are emotional, 684 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,199 like emotionally. And he was like, so those do go 685 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,120 hand in hand because men they you would be like absolutely 686 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,639 disgusted if you found out like your husband or something was 687 00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,480 watching porn. Like you'd be so upset and it 688 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,639 does happen. And so like you'd be so upset. 689 00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,880 But then like you're reading these books that are like having 690 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,880 full on, you know, like you were saying, like just scenes of just 691 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,080 comparing your marriage of how they deal with certain things, 692 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,720 but then also scenes with sexual things too. 693 00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:10,200 So it's like don't it's almost like falling the kettle black, 694 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,520 you know what I'm saying? I want to say that lightly, but 695 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,880 at the same time like, you know. And again, people are going to 696 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400 justify and say it's not. It's not, it's not. 697 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560 But even my husband, like he was like, no, those do go hand in 698 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,840 hand. Because I mean, when you're 699 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,000 reading, you do play it out like a movie. 700 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,360 Like you said, you've already picked out your actors and like 701 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,240 what they look like. So it is playing out in your 702 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,520 head how that whole scene just played out. 703 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,880 Whether like, I know for me, again, I know I'm a little bit 704 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,040 prudish, but I am just like, sometimes I'd be like Fast 705 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,760 forward because you, but a lot of the time when I'd read it, 706 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,880 I'd be like, yeah, 'cause that's exactly how it goes, like kind 707 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,400 of thing. So yes, it plays out exactly 708 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,520 like what you're saying. It would be the same exact 709 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,320 thing. You mean very like put off if 710 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,560 your husband was reading these same books, right? 711 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,280 There's a little bit more testosterone in it, but you 712 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,160 would be put off if Greg was reading those. 713 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,280 Books. Oh yeah. 714 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,040 Especially when you know where their mind is AT and it's not 715 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,240 with you and it's not with Christ. 716 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,440 And, and you know that if those things are not being filled in 717 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,520 their mind, whether they're reading or watching, whatever's 718 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,280 being put into their mind is not those things, then where's it 719 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,360 going to end up leading us? That's good. 720 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,520 We did a Bible study a couple months ago that was on Jude and 721 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,440 that is like the last book before you get to Revelation. 722 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,600 And it kind of serves as a warning as far as like all the 723 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,840 things that you do let into your life. 724 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,280 And the biggest thing that keeps repeating through that book is 725 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,120 sexual immorality. And I think that it was back 726 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,560 then that I like really finally said, like, let's put a plug in 727 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,800 this is that like I was letting things creep into my into my 728 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480 thoughts. But it also had it wasn't 729 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,160 injured, but it because it's a Bible study. 730 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,880 It pointed back to Psalm 11/5 and it was that the wicked 731 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,400 delight and violence. And that's when I really started 732 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,280 to put a whole other lens on what we were watching, like at 733 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,920 home. Like as far as the TV shows like 734 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,400 Sons and I won't name other shows, but there were other 735 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,400 shows that Seth was like, you don't want to keep watching. 736 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,320 I don't like because I don't want to delight in violence 737 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,960 anymore. And they're like, I'm not a 738 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,280 violent person, so this is fine. But it's just like being 739 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,600 entertained by those things. So that's where like this whole 740 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,600 episode is about is entertainment, what you're 741 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,840 bringing into your home, what you're letting into your heart 742 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,760 and your mind. And then that how that is a 743 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,680 trickle effect of like you said, all of a sudden you were getting 744 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,600 short with your husband or me. It's definitely short with my 745 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,240 kids. And just kind of getting that 746 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:40,080 like trigger feeling of you're just a snap response and it's 747 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,920 never a godly response. Right. 748 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Absolutely. That's good. 749 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,280 It's not leading you to where you ultimately want your life to 750 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,560 be. So absolutely. 751 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,880 Alright guys, well I think that's about it. 752 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,520 What do y'all think? I think this was good. 753 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,440 I feel good about it. I do to you like I feel so and 754 00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,560 good. I love having multiple people. 755 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:03,640 I wanted four and you're so bad, Mallory, but it's OK. 756 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,400 We're going to get Mallory in here too. 757 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,280 Like I have four people all at once. 758 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,280 I think that would be so much fun. 759 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,480 Anyway, All right, guys, we hope that you took something away 760 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,000 from this episode. I pray that this ultimately 761 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,160 grows you closer to Christ, grows you closer in your walk 762 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,200 and just strengthens that that you can pour into other people 763 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680 and tell them about this. And maybe, you know, someone 764 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,760 that's struggling with these types of things and you tell 765 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,400 them, hey, give this a listen. Give this a, you know, give it a 766 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,960 try. Anyway guys, please rate the 767 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,680 podcast comment, share it like. Whatever. 768 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,520 Ever. We absolutely love each and 769 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,560 every message that we've been receiving to just keep them 770 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,280 coming. Anyway, stay tuned, stay 771 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,560 blessed, and we'll see you guys next week. 772 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,360 Bye.