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What's up guys, my name is 
Alexis Brown, your host with 

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praises in the pod, and I am so 
excited to have my best friend 

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since 2006 on today, Abby Gordy.
I'm so excited to be here. 

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Girl, we finna get into it 
today. 

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We are all right. 
So what we're gonna do is we're 

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gonna start out in prayer and 
then we're gonna jump right in. 

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So here we go. 
Lord, thank you for this day and

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all your many blessings. 
Dear God, thank you for allowing

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us to come on and share what you
have done in our lives. 

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Lord, thank you for sending me 
Abby all those years ago. 

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Lord, thank you for allowing us 
to walk together in every part 

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of life, not just the good, but 
all the way through so we know 

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each other's stories, that we 
can hold each other accountable 

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and that we can grow together 
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Lord, we just pray that our 
story and her story and all of 

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our stories that come on to this
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Lord, they just glorify you and 
that they just touch each and 

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every one of our listeners in 
their own way. 

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Lord, I just pray that you 
continue to move and you speak 

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to us and through US. 
In Jesus name I pray, Amen. 

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Amen. 
Whoa. 

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So right when I started the 
podcast, you were one of the 

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first people I thought about. 
I was like, you know, you have 

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really watched me since when we 
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now. 
And I was like, that is such 

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like because we've had similar 
lives, we've had similar things 

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go on in our life. 
And so I was like, I want to get

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you on here. 
And I personally did not think 

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you was going to come on here, 
girl. 

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No, I was like, she's going to 
say no. 

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That's why when I texted you, I 
was like, girl, I promise it's 

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not as bad as you think. 
And you're like, OK, when and 

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what? 
Huh. 

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So. 
Bored was like, you better do. 

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It you better. 
Do it. 

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I find that very funny that you 
wanted to bring me on to this 

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podcast because I was like, 
honestly, the last person she's 

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going to want to ask is me 
because I just, why would you 

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think that? 
I have no idea because I'm just 

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not good at this kind of stuff 
and we've been friends forever 

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and. 
That's why I would want you to. 

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That's why I would want you to 
is because like you have just 

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been walking so strong in your 
faith and stuff. 

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And so like, I'm like, this is a
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and you know, really get your 
foot out there cuz you have such

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a powerful story and it needs to
be shared. 

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So I was like, girl, if you say 
yes, you finna, you finna pop 

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off, you finna pop off. 
So here we go. 

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I'm not but. 
Yeah, God is yes, yes. 

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So I guess I just want to start 
off by saying with my story, you

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will see that I grew up in a 
broken home, a broken family, 

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and ended up in a broken 
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But if there's one thing that I 
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this story is that we serve a 
God that can completely restore 

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your life. 
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Restore your story and you will 
see that that's how this story 

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truly ends. 
So when I was two years old, my 

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parents ended up getting 
divorced, my dad ended up 

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leaving my family, my mom and 
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The lifestyle of partying and 
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So he essentially left my us, 
all of us, my brothers. 

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I have two older brothers and 
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So my mom was kind of left 
stranded to take care of three 

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kids by herself. 
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I think she was young. 
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Whenever she had had by the time
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So yes, I cannot even imagine. 
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just kind of grew up in a very 
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You know, me and my brothers, I 
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parents went through it really 
just strengthened our bond 

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together. 
We really leaned on each other a

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lot during those times because, 
you know, my mom was really just

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out there trying to do that the 
best that she could to take care

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of us. 
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is Taylor, and then Garrett is 
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myself. 
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close, all three of us. 
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remember coming over, you know, 
it was always me and my brothers

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and us all kind of hanging out 
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And we just have always been 
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that happened. 
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looking at these videos or 
whatever and I was talking about

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siblings and like they're the 
only ones that really experience

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the same life as you have, 
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Like no one else in the world 
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is like unless it's your 
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because they're living in the 
same roof, they see your 

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parents, they seen all this 
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So like y'all do feel like have 
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because they're living the same 
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Right. 
No, that's so true. 

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I mean, we experienced these 
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might have been at different 
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saw the same things and 
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And it affects everyone 
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You know, it affected Taylor 
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Garrett and then myself. 
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through a lot of that tragedy, 
my mom was 100% our rock. 

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Like she stood strong. 
I don't know how she did it to 

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take care of all of us. 
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but she was there like from day 
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our side. 
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my life as a child. 
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was only like 4 or five at the 
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But my mom had found somebody 
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really kind of took us in as his
own children and treated her 

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very well. 
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to feel like that family again, 
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So, you know, I couldn't like, 
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know, we're happy. 
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But, you know, it was just that 
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coming back into our life after 
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But shortly after they were 
together, he ended up committing

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suicide. 
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remember walking into our house 
one day and seeing my mom and 

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there was police there. 
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there was so much going on that 
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figure out and ask questions and
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But it's just like that fear. 
I just still remember that 

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feeling of just like, Oh my 
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And that was like a huge turning
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When you were writing, because I
do a shared collab notes or 

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whatever. 
And so I've been looking over 

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your notes of what you've been 
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or whatever, like when I read 
that, like I remember I was like

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in shock because like, I guess 
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we hadn't really spoke about. 
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just like, like, it doesn't 
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Like how close you are with 
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Like you still don't know every 
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So it was just like, Oh my gosh,
like, I don't know what people 

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go through even when you talk to
them every single day, have 

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grown up together and 
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Like, you still don't know. 
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how old were you like? 
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Gosh, I would have been probably
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stays with you that you kind of 
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just stays in your conscience. 
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has affected you as a kid, you 
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And it can affect the actions 
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make whenever you're older. 
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that young, you don't realize 
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those things do have a huge 
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So for me, it's like as I got 
older and when the Lord didn't 

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come into my life, I started to 
remember those things and kind 

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of go back to, well, I went 
through this and it could, you 

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know, it could have affected me 
this way and this might be why I

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act this way or made these 
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with my life kind of going 
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But it's hard to realize that 
whenever you're so young. 

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So after that happened, we 
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with my grandma for a little 
while just for my mom to kind of

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take some time to get back on 
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Yeah. 
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help after all of that, 
especially, you know, from just 

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going from my dad leaving to 
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She blamed herself for a lot of 
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So we didn't stay with my 
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her to kind of take care of us. 
It's actually my I call her my 

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grandma, but she was my great 
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Fifi, Grandma. 
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So she helped raise us a lot. 
She she has a huge impact on my 

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life as well. 
So, so there was a huge shift in

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our family at that time from 
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making it the best that we could
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mode. 
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married a few other times and it
never really worked out each 

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time. 
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was always that feeling of 
instability, just never feeling 

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stable or feeling put somewhere.
So to me all during that time it

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was really nonexistent. 
I never really got very attached

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to anything or got very attached
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or I always had in the back of 
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any minute. 
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still, you know, marrying that 
party life and and kind of doing

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that, he was in and out of jail 
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So up until the time I was 16 or
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I just remember every single 
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don't know what it was. 
It was this time like October. 

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It's crazy that we're recording 
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But he would get arrested every 
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like for my birthday to see him.
And I just remember every year I

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got a letter from him every 
single year, like, got a letter 

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saying, you know, I love you, I 
want to do better, I want to 

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change. 
But he just couldn't. 

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He was just so trapped in 
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So it just continued to break me
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you know, just wanting somebody 
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So my dad was, you know, in and 
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And this is, you know what I 
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she never kept him from us. 
She always kind of gave us the 

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choice to decide if we wanted to
try to get to know him or have a

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relationship with him. 
I literally remember she drove 

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us to the jail like, a few times
because we did want to see him 

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and talk to him through the 
phone, you know, like through 

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the glass, just so we could try 
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to know him or I guess we 
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see him and she would take us. 
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Yeah, she, I mean, she wasn't 
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It was getting really bad. 
He was at his rock bottom and 

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that's when in 2008 he had his 
surrender moment and completely 

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just threw his hands up and gave
his life to Christ because he 

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was about to go to prison 
probably for a really long time.

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And so that's probably when I 
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little bit more because, you 
know, he was trying to reach out

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to us and, and trying to build 
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And I know it's because God was 
putting it on His heart at that 

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time. 
Well, even in the letters and 

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stuff, he always told you, like,
I want to be a dad. 

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I want to be there for you. 
Like I But, you know, when 

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you're in bondage, I mean, you 
can want something so bad, but 

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until you're ready to surrender 
and you want better for your 

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life and you give it over to 
Jesus, I mean, you're like, you 

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feel stuck. 
There's nothing you can do. 

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So. 
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You know, I always say that 
because you know, I see people 

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and I'm like, gosh, how you 
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for your kids? 
Like, you know, and you know, 

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they love their kids. 
You know, they love them more 

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than anything. 
But when you are so caught up in

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sin and in that life, it doesn't
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something until you get freed 
from it, it's going to keep 

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because. 
The enemies got you. 

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I mean, the enemies got you in a
chokehold. 

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There's nothing you can do. 
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For me, you know, when I got 
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notice a difference between, you
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it really, this verse really 
stuck out to me of what happened

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to my family. 
And then I just see it, it 

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happens to other families too, 
you know, but it's John 1010. 

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The thief's purpose is to steal 
and kill and destroy, and in 

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this moment he truly did kill, 
steal and destroy my family, and

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I felt that wholeheartedly. 
I see that too, looking back, 

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that the enemy had a foothold 
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whole family was affected by it.
Yes, and you know, I speak on 

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generational curses so like 
regularly because I have seen a 

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generational curse lifted off of
me and my my mom and my family 

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like things that I would I'm not
taking in to me having my own 

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children. 
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Facebook the other day and it 
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Yes, yes, the grandfather, he 
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Sunday. 
He's always there when the doors

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are open, you know, whatever. 
And then the son he starts or 

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the dad, the dad starts going to
church, right. 

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Occasionally he doesn't think 
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But then his son, it's like, 
well, it's not, no, we don't 

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have to go, you know. 
So then once it gets to the 

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great grandson, it's like they 
don't even know all the life 

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with Jesus. 
They don't even see it. 

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They don't go to church. 
They don't do these things 

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because it just slowly and 
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your family. 
So when those generational 

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curses are lifted and you are 
walking strong with God, you 

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know, like you're bringing a 
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Yes, and it, you know, 
hopefully, and that's what my 

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prayer is now that I do to have 
a family is to just keep that, 

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you know, I've read it before, 
but that gospel genealogy, like 

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that's so important to me. 
You know what you were just 

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talking about kind of the 
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grandson. 
You know, I just see so much now

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that I'm a mom and have a 
family, how important that 

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really is, you know, because you
see grandparents, you know, come

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in and, and take over for mom 
sometimes and help out with the 

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grandchildren and, and mom step 
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children with the father gone. 
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about it the other day and it's 
like you always remember certain

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things like about your 
grandparents from growing up and

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especially about your mom. 
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of legacy did they leave behind?
You know, like, what do you 

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specifically remember about 
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And I think for me, like, really
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that now as a mom is like, gosh,
the only thing I want to leave 

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my daughter with is it's just 
the knowledge of the gospel. 

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Yes, that's all. 
Yes, I actually did just think 

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about this. 
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when I was thinking about it, I 
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gets brought up because I was 
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caption or whatever and it was 
like, you can't take belongings,

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you can't take money, you can't 
take anything with you when you 

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go to heaven, but you can be 
able to take your children. 

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Yes. 
Like if you're raising them to 

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follow Jesus and they know Jesus
and you're doing everything that

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you can, I mean, you can bring 
your children with you to 

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heaven, right? 
So yeah, I'm so glad you said 

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that because I did think and I 
forgot about it too. 

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So that was good. 
Yeah, that's super important to 

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me. 
I don't really want to leave 

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behind anything other than that.
She can say that about her mom. 

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So what were some of like your 
struggles and everything before 

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you experienced God and gave it 
up? 

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So a lot of struggles, to be 
honest. 

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You know, looking back, I was 
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And what happens there is, you 
know, you see them having fun 

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partying with their friends. 
And at the time we kind of lived

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at a party house. 
So, you know, that was just kind

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of evident in my life. 
I just started drinking at a 

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really young age, just with my 
older siblings. 

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I think I was like 10 whenever I
first tried alcohol, you know, 

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smoking cigarettes, just doing 
things like that. 

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People were smoking weed around 
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So, you know, you just kind of 
get in the middle of all of that

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or you want to feel accepted and
which was, you know, from 

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growing up, that's all I wanted 
was to feel accepted. 

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So I just hung around them, did 
that just to kind of fit in and,

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and just because it was who I 
was close to too and they were 

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doing it. 
And you just kind of get wrapped

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up in the middle of it. 
So obvious, you know, drinking 

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and partying just became a big 
part of my life. 

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And I mean, if that's what 
you're seeing constantly, you 

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know, like, that's what you're 
going to mimic that because as a

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child, we do mimic people that 
we see, the good, the bad, the 

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ugly. 
If you're around stuff like 

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that, you're going to start to 
be like, oh, well, that's 

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normal. 
That's what normal people would 

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do. 
You know, that's what the world 

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is showing us that we should be 
doing. 

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Right. 
And I think too, like, it was 

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almost like something that I 
leaned on. 

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Like they were having fun. 
You know, we were all smiling, 

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laughing. 
And in a way, you just kind of 

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shove those feelings down that 
hurt or just really what's going

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on around you. 
Yeah. 

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You just kind of put them to the
side. 

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And that's just a good way to 
choose, like an avoidance 

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tactic. 
Yeah. 

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You know, you just, well, this 
is fun. 

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I'm going here and I don't have 
to think about anything else 

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going on in my life. 
But another huge struggle God 

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revealed to me once I truly gave
my heart to him was that I had 

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no self worth. 
That was when I look back, that 

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was my biggest struggle. 
Like I was saying, the partying,

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the drinking, drugs, whatever 
else you're doing, sexual thing.

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So it was all just a symptom of 
my true pain that I had. 

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And that was just having zero 
self worth. 

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I didn't feel worthy of love. 
I didn't feel worthy of really 

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anything just because I didn't 
feel like anybody wanted us. 

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I didn't feel like anybody loved
us. 

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I didn't feel like we were 
wanted anywhere, you know. 

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And so to me, having no self 
self worth, that in all the 

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other things that I was doing 
was just a symptom of that. 

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You know, I don't, I didn't 
really struggle with alcoholism 

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per SE. 
I didn't really struggle with 

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being super addicted to 
something. 

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I was just in that life because 
I just wanted to be accepted and

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I had no self worth. 
That makes sense. 

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Now that I'm looking back, I'm 
like, I start thinking about 

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stuff like that and I'm like, 
that is so true. 

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Like for me too, like always 
wanting to hang out with the 

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older kids and wanting to hang 
out with like the popular people

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and, you know, always being in 
those scenes just so I can be 

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accepted, just so I can be 
looked at as oh, she's one of 

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the cool people or whatever. 
So wow. 

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That just really enlightens me 
for real. 

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So, yeah, because like for me, I
never wanted to just be. 

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Yeah, with me, that's hard to 
do. 

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You got to. 
Love yourself enough to be with 

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yourself. 
And that was a huge struggle for

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me, you know. 
So I did not see myself as God 

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sees me, you know, And when you 
have no self worth, you'll allow

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anything and everything into 
your life. 

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There's no boundaries. 
It was just an internal battle. 

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It doesn't mean that the ones 
around me were actually doing 

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that. 
Yeah, because there were so many

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people that loved me and didn't 
leave me and didn't forsake me. 

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So for me, that led me to me. 
My greatest downfall in sin was 

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I felt trapped in that lust for 
love at a long young age. 

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You know, the less for a man to 
desire me. 

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I always wanted a boyfriend. 
I always wanted somebody there. 

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That was just a huge desire of 
mine, which leads to just all 

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kinds of sexual sin and just 
other things that you'll let in 

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your life. 
And for me, I ended up getting 

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married at a super young age. 
I think I was 22 at a time. 

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I was just kind of going through
the flow and I just thought that

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that was just going to make me 
whole. 

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Because that's The thing is, you
know, we all have a hole in our 

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heart and we're just trying to 
fill it with so much stuff to 

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feel whole. 
And the only thing that can do 

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that is the Lord. 
And so I just thought, like, 

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getting married and having that 
family was a huge desire of mine

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at a very young age almost to 
fix what had happened to us 

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maybe. 
Well, to have something that you

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didn't have growing up, like 
start young and build, you know,

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that family and all this stuff 
that you didn't have like that 

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was such a like a idol, honestly
in your life that you were, you 

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were like, let's go ahead, let's
get married, let's do this, 

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let's do this because I didn't 
have it. 

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And I want to make sure that I 
have it for my kids. 

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And 100% I was trying to be in 
control of my own life and and 

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that fulfilling that. 
And so, you know, being young 

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and that being my greatest 
downfall, my greatest sin, it 

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actually led me into a sexual 
affair on my husband. 

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So this completely destroyed my 
marriage. 

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But not only that, it destroyed 
my family, like my mom and my, 

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you know, my parents and his 
family. 

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It really still hurts to talk 
about, you know, and I've 

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completely taken accountability 
for all of my actions. 

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And you know, I had to cry out 
to the Lord, forgive me for 

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those actions, but it led me to 
my my darkest Divas Valley I've 

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ever been in after that 
happened. 

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And so, you know, I always hear 
my pastor say it now. 

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And it's such a good saying to 
live by or just see what can 

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happen in somebody's life, 
because sin doesn't start big, 

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it starts small. 
Yeah. 

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And he always says sin will take
you further than you want to go 

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and cost you more than you want 
to pay. 

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And it couldn't be more true 
because if I would have told you

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that's where I would have been 
at in my life, I would have 100%

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told you. 
There's no way, and you can end 

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up there faster than you ever 
thought. 

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Yeah. 
And I mean, that was something 

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that I kind of talked about last
week's episode on the holy 

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habits or whatever about like, 
even just music for me. 

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Like, it can start that small 
and then it snowballs and it 

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continues to snowball. 
And then you end up in a place 

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that you're like, how did I get 
here? 

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And then you feel too like, how 
how do I get back? 

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Like, where, where do I go? 
Like, how do I even fix this 

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mess that I put myself in? 
And, you know, you just, that's 

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when you feel stuck again. 
You're like, well, what do I do?

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Like, God, you know, yeah. 
Can I go? 

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You know, So it's just. 
No, I mean, that's so true. 

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You, you don't really know where
it's going to take you. 

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You know, like I said, and so 
many people have probably said 

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it before, like, oh, I would 
never do something like that. 

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Yeah, don't underestimate the 
enemy for real, because he sure 

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can take you there. 
I think one thing I try to do 

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now is really fight all of my 
inner battles with the word. 

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And so, you know, I just feel 
like if anybody is out there 

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struggling with self worth or 
just negative things about 

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themselves, like I just always 
reference back to this verse and

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it's Psalm 13913 through 16. 
And it's what God's Word says 

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about you. 
But you made all the delicate 

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inner parts of my body and knit 
me together in my mother's womb.

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Thank you for making me so 
wonderfully complex. 

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Your workmanship is marvelous. 
How well I know it. 

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You watched me as I was being 
formed in utter seclusion, as I 

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was woven together in the dark 
of the womb. 

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You saw me before I was born. 
Every day of my life was 

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recorded in your book. 
Every moment was laid out before

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a single day had passed. 
If that doesn't show you that 

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00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,080
the God of the universe created 
you and and knows you, knows 

445
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,880
every hair on your head to know 
that you are loved and you are 

446
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,200
worthy of that love. 
So that's just something I 

447
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,360
really hold on to now to try to 
help me whenever I'm in those, 

448
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,280
you know, just feelings of or 
just negative thoughts of just 

449
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,440
yourself and your life or things
that you've done. 

450
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,880
And I mean, all of us will have 
those thoughts and we will 

451
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,560
struggle with stuff like that. 
So that's the importance of 

452
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,200
knowing the Word and knowing and
talking to God and all this 

453
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,120
stuff. 
So we are equipped with that 

454
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,480
knowledge, you know, Because if 
we don't know that, then we're 

455
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,240
just like, we allow the enemy to
stay in our head, stay in our 

456
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:48,720
head. 
But when we know the Word, 

457
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,360
that's how you fight that. 
Spiritual warfare is knowing 

458
00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:54,120
that. 
Yeah, it's 100%. 

459
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,800
I was just talking to somebody, 
you know, about God's will for 

460
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,720
our life and, you know, somebody
would say, well, you know, why 

461
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800
does God let all of these bad 
things happen or does he make 

462
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,720
these bad things happen? 
And to me, like, absolutely not.

463
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,200
That's not what God's will for 
our lives were. 

464
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,360
You know, sin entered our life 
and he had to send a Savior to 

465
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,440
save us from those sins and to 
make it where we're no longer 

466
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,800
separated from God because 
ultimately his will for our life

467
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,040
is not things of harm, you know,
things of peace. 

468
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,960
We serve a good God, not a God 
of destruction. 

469
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,800
So you know, that's just how for
me, having that relationship 

470
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,680
with the Lord and knowing his 
word helps us to be equipped to 

471
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,840
fight the enemy and and be able 
to stay more on path with His 

472
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,520
will for our life. 
The other night I was actually 

473
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,040
at a church service and it was 
one of my favorite pastors, 

474
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,320
Pastor Benny from Rock Springs. 
And he was preaching out of 

475
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,440
Romans 8 to start off. 
And then it just, he told three 

476
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,120
different stories and then one 
of them was the 4th man in the 

477
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,720
fire. 
And he was saying, you know, 

478
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,800
those three men didn't see that 
4th man, but they got thrown 

479
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,160
into that fire so other people 
would see the 4th man. 

480
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,680
And I thought I was like, Oh my 
gosh, that's so good. 

481
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,440
Like I wrote it down. 
And I'm like, we do go through 

482
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,800
those things so other people can
see how God can bring us out of 

483
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:36,200
that and he can bring us into 
the, you know, the, the promised

484
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080
land. 
I mean, he's going to pull us 

485
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,800
out of that desert in that 
wilderness and all of these 

486
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800
valleys that we are in. 
But other people are watching 

487
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,440
and you know that. 
No, but those three men, 

488
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Meshach, Shadrach and Abednego 
Indigo, they didn't see that 4th

489
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040
man. 
The other people in the king saw

490
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,880
the 4th man. 
And I was like, wow, you know, 

491
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,040
like I hadn't thought about, you
know, our struggles and all that

492
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,960
like that. 
Yeah. 

493
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,840
So that was just really cool. 
Yeah, I know a lot of times, 

494
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,120
like when I am going through 
something really difficult or my

495
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080
family and I are, Dexter and I 
are really going through a 

496
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,200
struggle. 
You know, I don't really think 

497
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160
it's like God's punishing me. 
I'm like, what's he preparing 

498
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,480
us? 
For Oh, that's good. 

499
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:24,080
So, you know, He's preparing us,
our hearts for something always.

500
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,200
Because I know I don't serve a 
God that's trying to destroy us.

501
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,960
If anything, the enemy is. 
And if one thing I'm going to 

502
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,080
walk away from this is how to 
fight him better. 

503
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,120
Yeah, that's good. 
Because I mean, even last night 

504
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,040
I was going through something 
and like, I'm like, I feel like 

505
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,760
I'm being punished. 
Like in this stage, like, like I

506
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,480
just felt like I was being 
punished. 

507
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,120
And I'm like, yeah, I'm doing 
what you asked me to do. 

508
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,480
I stepped out. 
I'm trying to do all this stuff,

509
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,760
but like, why is this happening?
And then I'm like, it's, it's 

510
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,520
not like it's not for 
punishment. 

511
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360
It's not for anything. 
Like he's preparing me for what 

512
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,040
he has for me. 
And you know, I've been saying 

513
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,440
this for the last like four days
now, like John 13, seven. 

514
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,840
You don't understand what I have
what, what's going on right now.

515
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,880
But soon you will or later you 
will. 

516
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,400
And I'm just like, I'm, I'm, 
I've told multiple people like 

517
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,280
I'm really holding on to that 
right now because I do feel like

518
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,120
I don't know what's going on, 
but I know that he's preparing 

519
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,320
me for something, you know, and 
like he has brought me so far, 

520
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,800
you know, and I mean, he's not 
just going to be like, Oh well, 

521
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,960
all right, you're good, you 
know, cuz when he's done with 

522
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,760
you, you're gone anyway. 
You know, like he's he, if 

523
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,200
you're on earth, you have a 
purpose. 

524
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,080
If your heart's beating, you 
have a purpose. 

525
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,200
So I know that he's calling me 
to do it. 

526
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,560
So that just spiraled into, I 
don't think any of that's 

527
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,240
written down. 
But it's not. 

528
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,440
I don't even know where we are. 
OK, so you know, after that 

529
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,480
happened, I was broken. 
I mean, Oh my goodness, I was 

530
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,640
more broken than I've ever been 
in my life. 

531
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,280
And a lot of times when you are 
broken is the only time that you

532
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,480
cry out to God. 
Unfortunately, it shouldn't be 

533
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,240
that way. 
But that's kind of what happened

534
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,000
to me is in those moments I 
really was like crying out to 

535
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:16,000
him and asking for forgiveness 
and just feeling lost. 

536
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Like, Oh my goodness, I know I 
need to give my life to him, but

537
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,880
I've messed up so bad. 
I just, you just stay in 

538
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,280
darkness because you, it's like 
you're trapped. 

539
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,520
And that's kind of what had 
happened to me. 

540
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:36,120
And at that point in time, I 
really felt unworthy and dirty, 

541
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,640
like just dirty. 
And so when you are that way 

542
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,960
again, you just allow anything 
else into your life. 

543
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,040
And that's kind of what happened
with me is, you know, I was in 

544
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,920
that dirtiness and I was just 
like, it's hard to explain, but 

545
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,640
you're almost in a mindset of 
just might as well keep going. 

546
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920
Yeah, like, I'm already dirty, 
so why not just keep being 

547
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,760
dirty? 
You know, like you don't really 

548
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,160
see a light of how to get out. 
So it's like, well, I'll just 

549
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,560
keep living. 
This way I'm, I'm in it and you 

550
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,600
know, people are looking at me 
like with disgust. 

551
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,800
So I just kind of was like, I 
might as well just live it out 

552
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,800
or that's all that I'm going to 
have in my life going forward 

553
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,880
anyways, because I'll never get 
anything better or do anything 

554
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,120
better. 
So you just stay there. 

555
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:30,280
And I did, you know, I let other
relationships come in quickly 

556
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,080
after we got divorced because we
ended up getting divorced after 

557
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,240
that. 
Just relationships that I knew 

558
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:43,800
I, you know, didn't need to be 
in and just full of sin because 

559
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,280
the enemy had me where he wanted
me. 

560
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,600
Yeah. 
And. 

561
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,960
And I almost knew that, you 
know, I almost had this 

562
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,840
intuition, like, OK, I know, you
know, I need to change. 

563
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,640
Like, I am not living right. 
But it's like the enemy just had

564
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,080
his foothold in my life. 
And I'm like, but I'm just, I'm 

565
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,920
just going to stay here. 
Or maybe this will fix it or 

566
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,960
you're just trying to, like you 
said, backpedal and you're 

567
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,080
trying to do it all yourself. 
And or I'm going to try to clean

568
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,000
up just a little bit and then 
maybe start going to church 

569
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,800
because I can't go like this. 
Yeah, but we really just tell 

570
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,760
ourselves like the craziest 
things, right? 

571
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,040
Like all we have to do is 
literally seek God and cry out, 

572
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,320
just cry out to God, man. 
And you know, like things can 

573
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,400
rapidly do a 180 Yes, but no, 
we're like no, no, no, no, no, 

574
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,800
no, no. 
I gotta I gotta stop doing a 

575
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,680
little bit of stuff and then 
I'll go to church and then I'll.

576
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,960
Go out to the bars as much and 
I'll try to go to church on 

577
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,480
Sunday and it'll help, you know,
everything work out a little 

578
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,120
bit. 
No, Yeah, it's not. 

579
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,800
That's not going to help you. 
You know, and in that point too,

580
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:57,000
like I remember like, so this is
my perspective of like when you 

581
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,200
were in that time is like you 
started really pushing everybody

582
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,840
away to like you. 
I mean, I remember like I would 

583
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,480
try or whatever and you're like,
like there was a lot that 

584
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,000
happened around that time, but 
you know, like you just didn't 

585
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,360
want to be around people. 
You didn't want to try to, you 

586
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,560
know, to be like consoled or 
anything. 

587
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,719
Like you were just like, no, 
like I'm good. 

588
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,120
So like you pushed yourself into
like this lonely season to like,

589
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,840
even though you were still doing
stuff and partying all this 

590
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,840
stuff, like you just pushed 
yourself into like a lonely 

591
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,920
season. 
Oh 100%, the people that 

592
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,880
actually cared about me, I 
wanted nothing to do with them. 

593
00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:40,480
I didn't even feel feel worthy 
enough to have anybody in my 

594
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,360
life or didn't feel like they 
really cared. 

595
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,679
They just are trying to get the 
tea or, you know, nobody. 

596
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,560
So I'm just, I just push 
everyone away and just going to 

597
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,840
go go this way, you know? 
Do my own thing, yeah. 

598
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,840
I'm just going my own way. 
I'm going to try to figure this 

599
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,000
thing out by myself. 
And so for me, you know, that 

600
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,200
time in my life, I got divorced 
a few months after getting 

601
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200
divorced. 
Like you said, I pushed 

602
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,240
everybody away. 
I ended up at my rock bottom for

603
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,200
sure, you know, and there wasn't
like everyone's so different, 

604
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,800
but there wasn't like a 
scripture or anything that just 

605
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,120
stuck out to me or, you know, 
just being in church one day and

606
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,640
just deciding to change my life.
No, I had actually ended up in 

607
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,000
such a dark place. 
And this is like you were saying

608
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,760
I'd pushed you away. 
I don't even know if you knew 

609
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:42,200
about this part of my life, but 
I was just in a very toxic 

610
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,080
relationship. 
And so I found myself one 

611
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:51,840
morning by myself in Atlanta in 
a hotel, woke up after partying 

612
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,480
all night, and it was like super
early. 

613
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:58,120
It was literally like between 
6:00 and 7:00 in the morning. 

614
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,200
And I'm not an early person, so 
I just knew it was the Lord. 

615
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,000
But I heard a voice. 
I truly heard the voice of God. 

616
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,040
And he strictly said to me, he 
was like, Abby, you know, you 

617
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,000
can either come to me now fully 
with your heart, or I'm not 

618
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,720
going to take my hand off of 
your life. 

619
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,880
And it freaked me out. 
I remember I jumped up. 

620
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960
I'm like, Oh my gosh, I got to 
get out of here. 

621
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,200
Freaking out, trying to get 
dressed, crying, sobbing. 

622
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,800
Because I knew. 
It's like He had given me a 

623
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,160
vision of where I was at in the 
darkness that I was living in 

624
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,360
and giving my life to Him and 
living just in complete peace 

625
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,560
and living within His will and 
everything that He could do for 

626
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,000
my life. 
And then it's like I just had 

627
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,000
this other vision of just living
in complete darkness and it was 

628
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,120
like without God. 
And I don't know how to explain 

629
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,880
that feeling of seeing your life
without God. 

630
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,360
But it is empty. 
It's like there was nothing 

631
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,120
there but darkness. 
And for me, it terrified me to 

632
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,720
think I could live my whole life
and never have a relationship 

633
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:19,280
with the Lord. 
I really, I cried out to God the

634
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,200
whole way home and I strictly 
said over and over and over 

635
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,400
again, God, please cleanse me, 
cleanse my heart, save me and 

636
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,600
change me over and over again. 
Like I don't know how many times

637
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,880
I repeated it because I thought 
that would like make it come 

638
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,160
more real, but just the 
genuinity in my heart was what 

639
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,760
was going to make it come alive 
and in my heart. 

640
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,520
And so I just really that was my
point in time. 

641
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,160
When I got home, I just remember
reaching out to the leader of 

642
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,960
our church and was like, I want 
to join 12 step and I strictly 

643
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,960
told her. 
I said I'm tired of being tired 

644
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,720
because that's just it. 
I was tired. 

645
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:06,160
I was tired of not just from 
what I had just been through 

646
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:11,040
that divorce and and just living
in sin, but everything. 

647
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,280
Else like from all the way to 
from childhood. 

648
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:19,080
From just everything I had 
carried that was really 

649
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,200
hindering my life from really 
beginning, you know, and I, I 

650
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,160
kind of need to backtrack just a
little bit because for me, I had

651
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,760
seen when I was 16 or 17, my dad
gave his life to Christ. 

652
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,960
And I mean, radically, radically
changed the man radically. 

653
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,360
I saw him one day and I'm like, 
this isn't even the same person.

654
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,960
And so seeing that a few years 
after he had gotten saved, what 

655
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,560
God can do in somebody's life, 
like I knew it was true. 

656
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,360
I believed it, but I just didn't
believe it for myself. 

657
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,760
Yeah, You know, And so that day 
that that happened to me and the

658
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,320
Lord spoke to me, I knew without
a shadow of a doubt that if I 

659
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,400
truly gave him my whole heart, 
he could do that for me too. 

660
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,280
And so that's kind of what 
helped me to get to that moment,

661
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,160
or not just help me get to that 
moment, but know that that 

662
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,240
moment is genuine and it's true 
that he can change you. 

663
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:18,920
He can change your heart and 
change who you are. 

664
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,800
You know, there's so many people
out there all the time that say 

665
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,120
they'll never change. 
You know, they'll never change. 

666
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,200
And gosh, sometimes I find 
fault, you know, looking at some

667
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,160
people and I'm like, man, I just
don't know if that we cannot 

668
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,040
underestimate the Lord and what 
he can do when somebody puts. 

669
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,200
Him in a box and make it oh, he 
can do all that other stuff, but

670
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,680
he can't do it for this, you 
know and I mean I struggle with 

671
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,480
that too because I'm like, I can
never imagine that. 

672
00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,040
Well, I could never imagine that
he was going to bring me to 

673
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,600
where I am, right? 
I mean, I didn't deserve it. 

674
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,640
I mean, really like I had like, 
who am I to say he can't do it 

675
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,880
for someone else, you know? 
And so that's why I'm just so 

676
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,640
big on these testimonies 
because. 

677
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,600
Right. 
I mean, this is how people get 

678
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,240
in inspired, encouraged and can 
see the goodness of God and be 

679
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,000
like, wow, like she went through
all of that. 

680
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Like she can do the same thing 
for me. 

681
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,600
And you know, we keep talking 
about your dad and stuff and 

682
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,120
just like he. 
He's a big topic. 

683
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,200
He's a big topic, but like he 
just played such a big role on 

684
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,600
my walk too, you know, because I
remember like one time we were 

685
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,600
at Olive Garden. 
This is probably, we're around 

686
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,800
the age of like 1617 and we had 
just like, this is probably one 

687
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,720
of the first times I've been 
around your dad, right? 

688
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:43,960
So like, I didn't know him BC 
but like, you know, I heard 

689
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,920
stuff so but like I remember him
talking about like what all God 

690
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,600
had done for him, you know, and 
just that one seed, that one 

691
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,560
seed was planted right then for 
me. 

692
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,600
And I remember, you know, all 
the way up until last year, this

693
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,440
man keeps telling us he's like 
Abby Alexis, like you will love 

694
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,400
your life if you give it to God.
You are going to be living on 

695
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,400
clouds. 
He does and like I'm just like 

696
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,760
Mike. 
We having a good old time, OK? 

697
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,240
I don't. 
I'm good. 

698
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,440
I wish I would have listened to 
him sooner. 

699
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,320
Oh, I know. 
Because I'm like, he was telling

700
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,480
the truth. 
He was really telling the truth.

701
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,640
And like, we just thought, oh, 
no, that seems so lame. 

702
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:34,240
Like, but it's so seeking that 
searching to fill that void 

703
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,920
still too. 
Like we're just out and about 

704
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,880
doing all this stuff and yeah, 
you know, we're just trying to 

705
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,000
fill that void. 
To me, thinking about it now, 

706
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,680
and I haven't really thought 
about it until we sat down was 

707
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,480
and talked about this, thinking 
about how our friendship started

708
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,840
in 7th grade because our dads 
were living that life not 

709
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,560
knowing that the Lord was going 
to change my dad's life. 

710
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,960
Then you know we're going to end
up changing our lives and 

711
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,920
leading other people to Christ. 
And it's like, look at what he. 

712
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Can do. 
And just, you know, have planned

713
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,680
out for people's lives whenever 
you do truly give your heart and

714
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,480
him like it is just amazing to 
see what he can do. 

715
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,200
All the chapters that we've went
through, the valleys, the 

716
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,040
mountaintops, the everything, 
because there is many of times 

717
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,480
that me and you should have been
dead. 

718
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,480
There is many of times that like
we were places where we should 

719
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,320
not have been. 
We were doing things we should 

720
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,800
not have been doing, you know, 
and like, and just seeing how 

721
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,400
God had His hand and all. 
Of it for me, there was a lot of

722
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,840
times when God did try to get my
attention and there were times 

723
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,160
like I really did want to change
and live for him. 

724
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,200
You know, tear between the world
looked so good, like it really 

725
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,360
did and then feeling like I'm 
going to miss out. 

726
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,000
But there was a point in time in
my life where I really did want 

727
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,040
to try to do right and live for 
the Lord. 

728
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,320
And it was right after I had 
gotten married and the first 

729
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,800
time. 
And you know, I just referenced 

730
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,240
back to this parable in Matthew 
because it is so true of what 

731
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,520
can happen to so many of us, 
because there's so many people 

732
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,360
out there that they want to give
their heart to the Lord. 

733
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,520
They want to change, and then 
the world just picks them back 

734
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,920
up. 
And I just want to reference 

735
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,600
this Matthew 1356. 
Other seeds fell on shallow soil

736
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,200
with underlying rock. 
The seeds sprouted quickly 

737
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,720
because the soil was shallow, 
but the plants soon withered 

738
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,680
under the hot sun. 
And since they didn't have deep 

739
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:35,520
roots, they died. 
And I think back to like when 

740
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,320
you're, you know, just coming to
know Christ and you're a baby 

741
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,560
Christian, you know, it's hard 
to be deep rooted in, in the 

742
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,840
word and in the faith and, and, 
and just really focus on the 

743
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,400
Lord. 
And it's just so easy for the 

744
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,360
world to just pick you up. 
And I just say that because I 

745
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,120
just feel like so many people, 
once they get saved and you 

746
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,320
can't be perfect because you 
think like, Oh my goodness, I 

747
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,560
just messed up again. 
Or Oh my goodness, I did this. 

748
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,600
It's like just keep running. 
Together. 

749
00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:09,680
Yes, just. 
Keep running back. 

750
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:16,720
I remember about 7666 years ago 
or so, like me and my husband, 

751
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:19,400
which we were just dating at the
time, we had been going through 

752
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,320
some things and everything and 
like like I remember I like my 

753
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,280
mom was at the Potter's house at
that point. 

754
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,800
I remember this. 
And I was like on fire, but I 

755
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,720
mean, not a good like I was on 
fire for Jesus, but not in a 

756
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:40,400
joyful loving like I was beating
people over the head with the 

757
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,280
Bible. 
I'm like, if you don't go to 

758
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,800
church, you're going to hell. 
If you don't, if you don't stop 

759
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,880
drinking and partying and doing 
all this, you're going to hell. 

760
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:53,160
And like, I was so crazy and I 
like read a letter that I had 

761
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,440
written actually yesterday I 
read this letter that I had 

762
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:01,280
wrote and like, I see where how 
I wanted it. 

763
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,280
I wanted it, but you just got to
remember like you can't be 

764
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,280
perfect. 
And I remember how bad I wanted 

765
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:11,320
it in that point. 
But then, like, I fell off and I

766
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:15,760
was like, yes, I can't, you 
know, be on fire anymore. 

767
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,040
I felt I didn't do good at that,
you know, whatever. 

768
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,280
And so then the next I spiral 
the next few years, I mean, 

769
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,200
they're gone, you know, and I 
just barely went to church. 

770
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,560
I barely did this stuff. 
So now I know that where I am in

771
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,120
my spiritual walk, I know that 
if I mess up or I'm not where I 

772
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,600
want to be, keep going. 
Keep going. 

773
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,840
So for me, right after my 
surrender moment, I kind of 

774
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,440
looked I was isolating myself a 
lot, but not in a bad way like 

775
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,320
isolating myself. 
Working on yourself. 

776
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,120
Correct. 
Working on myself, I'm 

777
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,640
surrounding myself with people 
at the church, really just 

778
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,960
trying to be in the word and I 
still wasn't perfect. 

779
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,280
Like you're saying like you're 
going to, you're not going to be

780
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,040
perfect. 
We're not sinless and it's hard.

781
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,440
We're never will be. 
That's why we needed a savior. 

782
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,800
But I knew this time God truly 
had a hold of my heart because 

783
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,080
it's like there were things 
trying to creep back into my 

784
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,600
life and I was starting to 
really try to realize and 

785
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960
determine like, Nope, you know, 
I got to cut that off. 

786
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,800
I got to let that go because I 
think a lot of times we can 

787
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:32,040
easily start idolizing the 
promises of God and not him that

788
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,200
gives the. 
Promises. 

789
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,240
It wasn't him. 
It was what he can do for me, 

790
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:37,880
you know? 
Exactly. 

791
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,760
So I really taught me in that 
moment, like as soon as you take

792
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,120
your eyes off of God. 
Just like Peter. 

793
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,320
It's just, yeah, it's so easy to
just things get like the boat 

794
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,800
and rocky. 
So that's just a huge touching 

795
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,440
point in my testimony was what 
kind of help it stick this time 

796
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,560
was realizing the difference 
between the two and really just 

797
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,040
keeping my eyes on him and 
everything that was about him, 

798
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,680
not anything else. 
When I look at my life now and 

799
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,880
we go through moments where 
we're like, God, are you 

800
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,760
punishing me or why am I not 
being blessed in this area or 

801
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,080
what's going on here, I always 
remind myself you've already 

802
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,240
given me the ultimate blessing. 
You've given me everything I 

803
00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:24,120
needed, and that was sending 
your Son to die on that cross 

804
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,680
and not have eternal separation 
from you. 

805
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,920
Yes. 
OK, So what were some of the 

806
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,720
first things that you noticed 
being on this side of Jesus? 

807
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,560
For me, it was just starting to 
see that distinction between the

808
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,520
two that really opened my eyes 
to just say, like, I want to be 

809
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,920
on this side. 
Yeah, I want to be on this side 

810
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,440
with the Lord, because this side
looks it's dark and it ain't 

811
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,520
somewhere you really want to be 
nor stay. 

812
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,760
You know what, Abby? 
I think I want to split y'all's 

813
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,440
episode into two. 
You. 

814
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,560
Threw me a curveball. 
Yeah, I said. 

815
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,520
I want you to have your own 
episode and then the next week 

816
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,800
we'll talk with you and Dexter. 
So I think this would be a great

817
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,160
place to end because you're 
about to start dating Dexter in 

818
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,480
in your you're about you're 
about to start dating. 

819
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,160
So yeah, so in your story, you 
know, you're you're getting 

820
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,720
there. 
So I figure like this would be a

821
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:19,680
great place. 
So with that being said, y'all 

822
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,880
make sure to stay tuned, stay 
blessed and make sure you come 

823
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,840
back next week Wednesday at 4:00
to hear the rest of this 

824
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,440
testimony. 
Because I promise you, this is 

825
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,400
where you really start seeing 
how the goodness of God and the 

826
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,600
plans that he's had for her. 
And just like how all of it 

827
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,680
comes together for his good. 
And we're just so thankful that 

828
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,200
you don't join us today. 
Like this has been great. 

829
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,960
So let's get Dexter up here and 
let's film next week, all. 

830
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:48,960
Right. 
I'm ready. 

831
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,760
Hello. 
Love. 

832
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:09,280
You Jesus, love you. 
Jesus, can you say the blessing?

