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What's up, guys? 
My name is Alexis, your host of 

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Praises in the Pot, and I'm so 
excited to be here with Rachel 

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Fowler. 
We go to church together. 

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She's on the photography team 
too. 

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Oh, we're going to talk a little
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I'm not moving past that easily.
So we're going to start off in 

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prayer and then we're going to 
jump right in. 

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So here we go Lord Heavenly 
Father, just thank you for this 

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beautiful morning. 
Thank you for this just 

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beautiful life that you give 
have given us. 

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Lord God. 
Maybe it's not just been the 

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easiest path to walk. 
Maybe there have been these 

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trials and tribulations and 
valleys, Lord God, but we just 

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praise you through it all. 
We see the goodness and 

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everything that we have went 
through to bring us to where we 

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are today. 
We pray that you just go before 

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us today and let you open all 
the doors that need to be open 

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and shut all the doors that need
to be shut. 

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Lord God, because we want to be 
in your will. 

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We want to follow what you have 
for us because we know that your

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plan is far greater than what we
could ever imagine for our 

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lives. 
Thank you for who you are and 

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what you've done. 
Speak to us and through US in 

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Jesus name I pray, Amen. 
All right girl. 

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So I don't know when, like when 
did you join the photography? 

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A year ago. 
Really. 

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So it's about a year right now. 
Oh my. 

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God. 
It has been such a blessing, and

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I'm not just saying that because
you're on here. 

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You have been a blessing. 
I rave about you all the time. 

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I make a small heartburn. 
Oh my gosh. 

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So when I first started at the 
church, I went to a conference 

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and they said this like line and
I took it away and it was like, 

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find the heart to serve and then
teach the skill. 

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Well, I kept praying on that 
because the photography team was

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like just me and Willow 
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And so I just kept praying about
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I'm like, Lord, I need some 
photographers. 

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And next thing I know, here's 
Rachel and she's like, girl, I 

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never touch a camera. 
I love to take pictures on my 

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phone. 
I'm AI do social media, like I 

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can figure it out. 
And you really did have that 

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heart to serve. 
And you have just blossomed in 

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photography and done so well. 
And it's just been so amazing to

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get to know you. 
But I'm super excited to 

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actually get to know you better 
today, OK? 

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I did want to just mention that 
it was so funny because when we 

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joined that little card and it 
like says how you want to serve 

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and there's boxes to check and I
just remember I didn't see it 

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and I wrote him true Rachel 
fashion. 

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I wrote my own little 
photography box and checked it. 

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And it was not even a week that 
Carrie had me connected to you 

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and you just jumped in and just,
you know, poured into me and the

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whole team did. 
And I'm just so thankful because

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I have always struggled on where
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And a lot of people, you know, 
just immediately go to the kids 

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manager. 
And I just knew that that has 

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never been my calling. 
And so for it not to even be on 

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the little card and the end, for
it happened so quickly and to 

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feel so loved and so poured 
into, I was like, wow, we are, 

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we're here, we're home. 
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said there's you didn't see it 
on the car because sometimes 

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like there's these like behind 
the scenes ministries that 

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people don't talk about as much,
which as Southside as a whole, 

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we're trying to be more like, 
hey, there is other things 

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besides kids and students and 
greeters like, but you got to 

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got it. 
We got to ask a little bit. 

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And you did that. 
You're like, I'm gonna shoot my 

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shot. 
We'll figure it out. 

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I saw when we were in service, I
saw a girl with a camera walking

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around taking pictures and I was
like, that's it, I want to do 

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that. 
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All right, so let's talk a 
little bit about you, your 

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testimony, your childhood and 
let's work our way up. 

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OK? 
So tell us a little bit about 

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your early years. 
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lived in a home where, you know,
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I was clothed. 
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I truly believe that my parents 
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I have a sister. 
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was a home where emotions 
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negative emotions. 
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you know, anything that didn't, 
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were typically punished or were 
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And I truly believe that that 
shaped a lot of the rest of my 

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life. 
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believe that they that my 
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And I think that a lot of what 
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the way that they were raised 
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own stuff. 
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And so I think that that truly 
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It's. 
Just those like cycles that just

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keep going because at some point
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going to carry into it and then 
like, but you got to break those

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cycles. 
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And and I'm not even saying, you
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unintentional. 
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you're modelled is what you 
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Forward with I have always heard
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Sorry, I have always heard, you 
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parents are your like internal 
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And it's like if you can't, if 
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way too, you know, like the same
you can't really bring emotions,

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the negative things like 
whatever, that's how they 

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interpreted life as well. 
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Like eventually you're like, 
wait, is that a negative core 

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belief about myself or is that 
real? 

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You know, like so it's it's hard
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It is. 
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it was either very just level or
if I saw arguments, the emotions

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were really big. 
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you know, there's emotions were 
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And so I felt like it was really
hard to be heard. 

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And so going into my younger 
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I was very rebellious and I lied
and I were places I shouldn't 

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have been. 
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heart when I was younger at 
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We did go to church, I think 
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like third grade. 
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that age what that meant or what
that relationship will look 

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like. 
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in the youth group, but looking 
back, it was more for the social

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part of it. 
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teenager, I was just running to 
anything where I could get that 

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emotional connection or try to, 
it wasn't authentic, but 

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anywhere where I could have that
emotional connection that I felt

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like I lacked in my home, that's
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be friends, boyfriends, parties,
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And I mean that even went into 
college and I knew who Jesus was

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and I knew that he was my Lord 
and Savior, but I did not 

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actively pursue that 
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And. 
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common. 
It's not a good common thing, 

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you know what I'm saying? 
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don't see, like we accept 
Christ, but we don't know how to

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follow him, especially at a 
young age when our parents 

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necessarily aren't like those 
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the church. 
I mean, they can be, but like, 

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we just don't see it at home as 
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And so it takes a while for us 
to be like, oh, wait, this is 

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not it, right? 
You know, so growing up, you're 

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kind of rebellious, all this 
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When do you and your husband 
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We met so, funny story, we 
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school together, no. 
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And it was at the school that 
our son now got or went to an 

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elementary school. 
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Yeah. 
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parent was was pretty neat. 
But we actually went to the same

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elementary school. 
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So we were never like any in the
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And when I left elementary 
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and went to private school and 
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Perry High. 
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of each other, but we never 
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you're around each other. 
So I went off to college and he 

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went off to college. 
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Southern and when I came back 
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Air Force Base as part of the 
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And my friend and I, we were to 
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And there he was sitting with 
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And it was like, like I said, we
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So we we kind of threw our hand 
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Good old, Old Town way, small 
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Just hey. 
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food and I was standing there at
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getting my stuff and I just 
glanced up and he was looking at

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me. 
And so he was checking me out 

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for sure. 
For sure. 

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Got it. 
You know, so after that, I think

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I Facebook messaged him. 
It was me. 

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I was like, OK, because. 
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if you know Mitchell, he is such
a just laid back, like reserved,

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not, not the, you know, 
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So that would be me in the 
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So I reached out to him and we 
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we got married was very fast. 
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nine months. 
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Love these stories, girl. 
When you know, you know. 

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Like you are mine. 
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We started dating I think in 
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were married in November of 
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Oh wow. 
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each other, you know here and 
there growing up like y'all knew

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of each other and so I mean was 
anything very what did y'all's 

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walk look like when y'all got a 
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you y'all going to church 
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Where y'all following Christ? 
What I know you knew of Christ. 

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Well, just right before we get 
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how quickly that was. 
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when I was talking about how 
rebellious I was and I was 

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seeking validation and emotional
connection and all those wrong 

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places in college and high 
school, that was a lot of the 

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wrong romantic relationships. 
And so was modeling what I saw 

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as a child and a lot of big 
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that we're not healthy. 
And, and I claim that and I, and

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I know that now, but I kind of 
knew what I didn't want. 

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Oh and so when I met him and we 
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sealed the deal was it was 
Father's Day and I was going 

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over to meet his parents for the
first time and I was so nervous.

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And when I got there he didn't 
tell me but both sets of his 

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grandparents were there too. 
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And I will never forget when I 
walked in that door, every 

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single one of them hugged my 
neck and when they left, they 

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hugged me again. 
And I remember thinking, what is

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going on? 
What is like, why are they doing

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all this hug? 
Because as a as a kid, I don't 

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remember those emotions and 
those physical emotions being, 

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you know, being brought to 
physical. 

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And so I was like, what is this?
Like, I really thought, well, 

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this is a cult, you know, like 
that's and how I went on here. 

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That is how unfamiliar that was 
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And I was just like, wow. 
And spending time with his 

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family just really was like, 
this is what family can feel 

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like. 
This is what home can feel like.

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And I could be me, I could have 
any emotion it under the sun and

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his family would listen and 
love. 

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And so that's really what so 
when we started dating, I was 

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like, I love this. 
I want more. 

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And so I started going to church
with them and we, we went pretty

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much every Sunday and we, we 
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And that's really where I 
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I wanted more that hunger or 
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That's such a beautiful like 
thing of experience, that type 

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of love when you've never really
experienced it because it does 

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feel weird, but you're like, 
wait, other people have lived 

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like this, like, and I bet you 
just all mention a whole 

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different light of just how 
beautiful his family was, how 

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welcoming, like it just felt. 
Just so warm and it felt so 

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healthy and coming from so much 
unhealthy as a teenager and a 

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college kid trying to find that 
love, it was like, wow. 

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Like it just really gave me an 
appreciation and the fact that 

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we grew up in such different 
homes and kind of what I could 

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share with him and that he could
learn and what he shared with 

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me. 
And it just it, it opened me up 

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to a whole new world that I 
really didn't know existed. 

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Yes, so y'all are you kind of 
just jump right in, become part 

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of a family, Y'all get married 
quick. 

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So when how long were y'all 
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Not long, we got married in 
November 2011 and Cal was born 

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in on January 25th, 2013. 
Oh, wow. 

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So yeah, yeah. 
You know, you know you're not. 

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You want to start a family. 
All this y'all are married. 

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What does those early years look
like for you? 

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Yeah. 
So when we had Cal, I mean, we 

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were still involved in church 
and, and in our Sunday school 

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class and we took him 
immediately and he was involved 

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and, you know, he went right 
along with us. 

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And, you know, those, those 
first years are tough. 

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You know, I always thought that 
I would have more children. 

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I was so hoping you were going 
to talk about this. 

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Yes, go ahead. 
I really was like, I had always,

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you know, when you're younger 
and you're like, I'm going to 

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have two, 3-4, whatever it may 
be, like I'd always planned that

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I would at least have two. 
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first year, I mean, he was the 
best kid too, like just such a 

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good child. 
Like he, he was just, we just 

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call him our, our little old 
man. 

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And a lot of it, I think was 
because he when he was younger, 

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he stayed with Mitchell's 
grandparents. 

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Each set of grandparents kept 
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week while we worked. 
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himself with these older people 
and his way of life was slow. 

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And, you know, he just was the 
most chill kid ever. 

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And and that, so that wasn't it.
It was more so Mitch and I like 

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we really just don't have a lot 
of patience and we know that. 

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About ourselves. 
That's real, girl, that's real. 

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We never, we knew that. 
We knew that we don't thrive 

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with a lot going on, with a lot 
of running out the door, with a 

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lot of trying to get everybody 
dressed. 

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And it's just we, we actually 
sat down and made a list. 

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We were like, OK, because it was
coming time, you know, Cal was 

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like 4. 
And I was like, we're going to 

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do this. 
We got to do it, right? 

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We got to do it, Yeah. 
And the only thing on both of 

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our lists to have another child 
was so that Cal would have 

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somebody. 
And we just decided that that 

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alone wasn't enough, wasn't 
enough to do that. 

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And we just knew that we wanted 
the best we could for our 

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family. 
And we know that we had to be 

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healthy for that. 
And we were, you know, afraid 

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that if we brought another child
in and created an atmosphere 

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that went healthy because I'm 
parents are the tone of the 

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home, you know what I mean? 
And so we just decided that the 

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three of us were going to be 
kicking it and we're thick as 

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thieves and we just love being 
around each other. 

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And that kind of leads me into 
also like in in my home when I 

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was a child, the communication 
was just very much, it's very 

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authoritarian home. 
Very much the communication was 

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from parent to child. 
And so I just, we knew that we 

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wanted that open communication 
style. 

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And so with him, it's things are
just real nice and slow and we 

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can pour a whole lot of 
attention into him. 

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And you know, one of the other 
reasons and, and they're 

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different for everybody. 
So I'm not saying that if you 

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want 4 have 4:00. 
If you want to run around, run 

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around. 
Now me and my house, we will 

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not. 
Yeah. 

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And say like we, that's what we 
say. 

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Like we're always both at Cal's 
options, you know, and one's not

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over here and one's not over 
here. 

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And these are just our personal 
reasons. 

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And you know, that's I was 
hoping that you were going to 

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talk about that is the first day
that we went to coffee. 

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I was like, so are you going to 
have more kids? 

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You know, like all this stuff 
and now I look back and I'm 

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like, that's not my place to ask
them questions. 

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But you live in Yolari, OK. 
And so you were like, actually, 

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no, like we only want one. 
You kind of talked to me about 

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it and it was just so 
fascinating to hear another POV 

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like because most of the time we
do hear like what you said, we 

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want a big family, want this. 
We want that. 

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And just so because I've always 
thought that I only want one 

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too, you know, like I'm just 
like, and people are like, no, 

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nobody ever really know. 
They do yet. 

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So it was just nice to hear 
like, oh, my feelings are valid 

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there. 
Like you can just have one. 

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And there are still some worries
with that. 

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Yeah. 
As we get older, you know, if 

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something were to happen to us, 
who does he have? 

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And thankfully, my sister, she 
has three kids and Mitchell's 

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brother has 2. 
So I feel like he will have, you

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know, people around him. 
So that was one of my, my main 

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concerns. 
But I think that he'll he'll be 

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loved and he'll have enough 
though. 

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So tell us a little bit about 
what happened a few years ago. 

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I know something big pivotal 
happened, so let's jump into 

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that. 
OK? 

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Yeah. 
So in I've worked in with the 

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state of Georgia. 
Now this year will be 15 years 

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which. 
Ain't even possible, Rachel. 

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Like it's crazy sometimes when 
you say these numbers, I'm like 

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hell, hell. 
I appreciate I was. 24. 

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I will take it girl, bring it 
home. 

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Yes, all the compliment No 
really really do look like 

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you're like 24. 
You we just have these 

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personalities that are younger 
too. 

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So I girl, I don't understand, 
but go ahead, I'll tell you. 

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With the state for 15 years. 
I think it's just so important 

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to keep that in your spirit and 
in your soul because it's going 

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to keep you going. 
You know, like, I don't ever 

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want to be where I'm just like, 
this negative, you know, I want 

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to be this uplifting person. 
But, yeah. 

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So 15 years in the state of 
Georgia and which is weird 

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because my my college degree is 
in child and family development.

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OK, I originally went in for 
nursing and that didn't pan out.

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I mean, my neighbor, he got his 
finger cut and I went to try to 

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help him and I had to go lie 
down. 

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And I'm telling you the next 
day, I wouldn't take my major 

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surface, but it's so crazy how 
God had a hand in that because 

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considering how I felt growing 
up and having a degree in child 

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and family development would 
later help me with my family. 

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But anyway, 15 years of the 
state of Georgia and Mitch was 

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working in banking. 
This was about 2021 when it all 

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kind of came to light. 
And so Mitchell had been working

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in the bank and there were some 
mistakes that he had made. 

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That really had some some heavy 
consequences to them and you 

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know, we didn't really family 
wise, we didn't really know what

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was going on until. 
It came, yeah. 

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And so a lot of shock, a lot of 
fear and anger, honestly. 

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And it was just a really 
difficult situation because it 

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was one of those times where, 
like, what in the world? 

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Like, I feel like I know this 
person. 

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You know, this is my purse and 
why didn't I pick up on 

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anything? 
You know, why wouldn't why what 

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not able to see it? 
I should have seen it. 

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And so there was a lot of guilt 
there, too. 

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And it was one of those times 
where, you know, he was going to

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have to go away and serve time. 
And so it was one of those 

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things where you're just like a 
crossroads in our marriage. 

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I mean, it really was, it was 
like, do we just go our separate

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ways? 
You know, do we hold on and ride

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this with with the Lord? 
You know, and those were some 

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really hard, tough conversations
that we had to have. 

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And, you know, Cal was young and
it was just like, what are we 

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going to do? 
And so honestly, we took a not 

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physically time apart, but we 
just took some time to 

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ourselves, you know, really 
think about it and pray about 

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what is the next step. 
And it's one of those things 

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where somebody tells you, you 
know, like literally just look 

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at the next step. 
Like we can't look, that's good 

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farther We right now we just 
have to go day by day, step by 

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step. 
And so we came together and we 

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decided that the thing about me 
and Mitch is that he has never, 

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ever made me feel less than. 
He has never not heard me out, 

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not understood, not let me be 
me. 

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I mean, he has just been so 
patient and kind and loving and 

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our that's what our marriage was
even before, before this. 

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And so I was like, you know, 
Rachel, God has put this man in 

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your life after all that you 
went through through your 

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younger years, this family in 
your life, you know what I mean?

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And just because he's fallen 
short, you know, that's where I 

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stand tall. 
And that's what happens in a 

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marriage is when somebody falls 
down, you pick them back up and 

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you stand when they can't. 
And that's truly what I felt 

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like God was telling me to do. 
And I can't imagine. 

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I said, we're going, we're going
to get through this. 

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I don't know how. 
I don't know what it looks like.

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We all had just such a beautiful
foundation already built. 

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You know what I'm saying? 
Like that is where it's so 

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important to know, yes, y'all go
through this terrible, terrible,

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awful, traumatic situation, but 
y'all were built on this like a 

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strong foundation where you 
could make it through. 

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You know, I look back at I'm, 
I'm very open about it. 

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Me and my husband, we built our 
foundation. 

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Basically I'm partying and 
drinking and smoking and XYZ and

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all this stuff. 
So when we started going through

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it, I mean, we was going to hit 
the road Jack. 

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And, but now being on this side 
of Christ, we are now building 

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the foundation that we need. 
So it's just beautiful to see. 

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Like, you know, This is why it's
so important we say find the 

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person that's equally yoked with
you, ride it out with Christ, 

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run towards him and build that 
foundation. 

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Absolutely. 
And and I'm not going to 

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sugarcoat it either, in, in this
time that this came to light, 

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Mitch and I, we were always like
just I felt like good partners. 

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You know, we we worked well 
together and we supported each 

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other, but we were both also in 
the world at this time. 

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Like we had friendships that we 
were out and we were doing stuff

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we weren't supposed to be doing.
You know, we would go out and 

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drink and, you know, we would 
send Cal over to his 

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grandparents so that we could go
out with friends and go, you 

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know, not nothing like, you 
know, but stuff we shouldn't be 

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doing. 
And so I also feel like you're 

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sometimes God, well, you know, 
you can hit rock bottom because 

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he's not getting your attention.
You know, I can't get their 

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attention. 
And we hit rock bottom because 

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he wants us to know that he's 
there. 

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He's that rock at the bottom. 
You know what I mean? 

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And that's really what it felt 
like. 

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It was like, OK, we were out 
here doing these worldly things.

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We were not doing what we were 
supposed to be doing. 

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Yeah. 
We were sitting in church every 

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Sunday morning. 
But on Friday night, we're out 

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hanging out with friends and 
drinking and doing stuff we 

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weren't supposed to be doing. 
And you know, it was like time 

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to grow up. 
You know, you're in your mid 

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30s. 
It's time to get your act 

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together. 
And if you're not going, if 

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you're going to sit in church 
and not hear me out and not look

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for me and not seek me, then 
this is. 

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Got to get your attention right?
So you'll have to spend some 

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time apart. 
Yeah. 

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How? 
Longwell originally, which is 

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another, you know, thing where 
I'm like, OK, God, you point me 

447
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,960
in the right path. 
Like show me, light it up so 

448
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,080
bright that I can't miss it. 
And you know, originally it was 

449
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,560
supposed to be 24 months and I 
mean, I just didn't know what I 

450
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,000
was going to do, but it ended up
being ten. 

451
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,400
Wow. 
I mean. 

452
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,080
Wow. 
Yeah, yeah. 

453
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,120
What does that look like? 
Because a cow. 

454
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,520
How's Cal at this point? 
So right now he's 13, so I guess

455
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,800
he was what, 9? 
OK, 8-9 somewhere in there. 

456
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,000
I mean, y'all are just a, you 
know, two parent household, two 

457
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,600
parent income, two parent 
everything. 

458
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,760
And now your whole world's been 
rocked. 

459
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,960
We're now you're not a single 
mom, but you're about to have to

460
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,720
live as a single mom. 
So tell us about that 10 month 

461
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,560
season. 
Yeah. 

462
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,680
So in 2021 when it came out, you
know, the way the system works, 

463
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,200
it is slow. 
Yeah. 

464
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,240
So Mitch actually didn't leave 
until 2023. 

465
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,280
And that's another thing, you 
know, when, when God brought 

466
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:37,120
that family in my life and just 
his family and, and my family, 

467
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,160
they, they wrapped their arms 
around us. 

468
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,200
We sat down as a family and 
we're like, here's what we have 

469
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,760
to pay every month. 
And between his parents, his 

470
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,960
grandparents and my parents, 
they just, they made the 

471
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,800
difference. 
And because that's was a fear, 

472
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,400
like, you know, I'm making 
money, have a good job, but 

473
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,120
like, I can't afford this 
household on my own. 

474
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,720
And so we were able to stay 
where we were at and we wanted 

475
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,360
to make sure that Cal's routine 
was as normal as it possibly 

476
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:13,160
could be. 
And so when Mitch left, we, we 

477
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,120
Cal is honestly the best age I 
think it could have possibly 

478
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,120
happened. 
And I think that was another 

479
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,920
thing, you know, that only God, 
you know, could have had a hand 

480
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,640
in. 
And the fact that he was 8-9, 

481
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,000
whatever it was, is that he was 
old enough to understand. 

482
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,840
So it wasn't like there was a 2 
year old running around. 

483
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,160
Where's Daddy? 
Where's Daddy? 

484
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,400
You know, and I was constantly 
having to come up with an 

485
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,480
excuse. 
But he wasn't too old where I 

486
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,920
felt like his heart might be 
hardened, you know what I mean? 

487
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,880
Like where he would be angry 
about it. 

488
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,200
He was at this really good age 
where he still had this really 

489
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,240
tender heart and innocence, but 
still loved. 

490
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,400
And so we were able to explain 
it to him. 

491
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,360
And that was tough. 
I mean, there were tears and a 

492
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,120
lot of explaining and a lot of 
understanding. 

493
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,720
And honestly, he's my biggest 
hero. 

494
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,640
That relationship is so 
beautiful to me. 

495
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Thank you. 
And it's one thing to and that's

496
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,440
another thing that I I was 
determined after my upbringing 

497
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,400
was that it was going to be 
different. 

498
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,880
Yeah, but we had those ten 
months and. 

499
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,360
And looking back now, you know, 
after you're through it and 

500
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,520
you've healed and you've come on
the other side. 

501
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,120
Looking back now is one thing I 
told Mitch is that as terrible 

502
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:34,240
as it was, as much as I didn't 
want it to happen, I will never 

503
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:41,040
be upset that I had 10 months of
just one-on-one with him. 

504
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:47,240
And it really allowed us to just
grow in each other and, and 

505
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,520
experience each other and spend 
time together and learn about 

506
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,760
each other. 
And, you know, we did good. 

507
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,800
I feel like considering, you 
know, we went to visit Mitch and

508
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,240
he played sports and, you know, 
we did school when he thrived in

509
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,320
school and he thrived in sports 
and and he's just my hero 

510
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,560
because I feel like a lot of 
kids could have taken that 

511
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:17,440
situation and just been angry 
and mad and, you know, kind of 

512
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:22,520
isolate from stuff that they 
would typically enjoy and he 

513
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,280
just killed it. 
I mean, he just absolutely 

514
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,720
rocked it. 
And that's kind of what I feel 

515
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,400
like when I think about Mitch 
being gone is like there are so 

516
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:42,520
much stuff that God needed to do
in US separately that never 

517
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,320
would have been done had we 
continued our routine. 

518
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,560
And that was our goal when he 
left. 

519
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,560
It's like, I'm going to go over 
here, I'm going to do what I 

520
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480
need to do, and I'm going to 
strengthen and grow my 

521
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,400
relationship in Christ. 
And that's what I was going to 

522
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,320
do at home. 
That's good. 

523
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400
And so that's kind of how we 
looked at it because there 

524
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,520
really was no other way. 
But I do feel like when, when, 

525
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,240
if families go through this, 
it's one or the other, you know 

526
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,200
what I mean? 
It's easily one or the other. 

527
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,000
They're just broken and or we 
stick it out. 

528
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:24,960
So it's a long 10 months, but he
comes home and tell us about 

529
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,880
this transition. 
Because now you've been doing 

530
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320
life. 
It's just you and Cal, you know,

531
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,520
pretty much just living life. 
And now he's got to be 

532
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,520
integrated back in. 
So how tell us how difficult 

533
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,560
that probably was? 
Yeah, so right before we get to 

534
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,680
that, I did just want to share 
that, you know, while he was 

535
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,840
gone, we had been attending 
Mitchell's church. 

536
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,040
He was at that church since he 
was a baby. 

537
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,000
I mean, he had a long term 
pastor, you know, we've been 

538
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,000
doing that. 
And so when he left, I found it 

539
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,400
really hard to sit in church. 
I mean, I would just get panic 

540
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,760
attacks. 
I would have to leave. 

541
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,240
And I remember feeling so 
convicted and so guilty about 

542
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,840
that. 
But I, I stayed in the word. 

543
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,560
I did my Bible recap. 
I listened to podcasts. 

544
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,640
I felt like I read my Bible. 
I did it in a way that I could. 

545
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,120
And I and I felt like, OK, I 
need to know that this is 

546
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,440
enough, you know, am I doing 
enough? 

547
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,480
And so I was walking one day and
I just walked in our cul-de-sac 

548
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,920
out in the front of the yard. 
And I listened, listened to my 

549
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920
pot sermon podcast and I was 
walking and I just remember 

550
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,840
just, it's just crazy. 
I saw this little flowers and I 

551
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,960
still have the picture on my 
phone. 

552
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,240
It's just the littlest flower 
growing in the crack in the 

553
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,960
road. 
And I just remember, like him 

554
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,440
just so clearly speaking to me 
and just saying, you know, 

555
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,200
Rachel Bloom, where I have you 
planted, you know, and it may 

556
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,040
not be where I want to be. 
It sure wasn't where I wanted to

557
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,160
be. 
And it wasn't fun and it wasn't 

558
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,880
exciting. 
And it was absolutely the 

559
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,400
hardest thing I've ever done in 
my life. 

560
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400
But he was like, Bloom where I 
have you. 

561
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,920
And if and if that's at home 
walking and listening to my 

562
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,760
word, if it's reading my word in
your bedroom when nobody's 

563
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
looking, if it's, you know, 
whatever it may be, if it's 

564
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,720
listening to music while you're 
on your way to work or wherever 

565
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,320
you're going, like that's. 
And I feel like that was a sign 

566
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,120
that like where I have you in 
this season, bloom, where I have

567
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,440
you regardless of what's going 
on around you. 

568
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,560
That is so good. 
I'm so glad you remembered to 

569
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,080
say that because I totally was 
about to skip over it. 

570
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,760
Girl, thank the Lord you 
remembered. 

571
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:41,040
You are so good. 
OK, so after that I love that 

572
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,680
because you're in a very bad 
season and that is such a good 

573
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:50,200
like visual of like there it 
might seem crazy around you, but

574
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440
you can make something beautiful
out of this. 

575
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,240
And so that's what y'all did. 
You know that is true. 

576
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,880
Y'all made the most of the 
situation that you are in and 

577
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,440
grew to Christ and really 
learned more about Him and had 

578
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,800
that intimate relationship with 
Him. 

579
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,720
While y'all are separated by 
this time not y'all know what 

580
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:09,480
I'm saying? 
Y'all know. 

581
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,840
I think y'all following along 
anyway so he comes home. 

582
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,480
Tell us about that. 
Yeah. 

583
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,840
And so while we're in the 
season, you know, you don't see 

584
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360
the light. 
You can't keep the advance 

585
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,920
secret on the other side. 
And, and one of my biggest fears

586
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,840
and something that I prayed 
about while Mitch was gone was 

587
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,240
like, what is life going to look
like, you know, when you get 

588
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,520
back? 
Because when something like this

589
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,480
happened, it's hard to find a 
job. 

590
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:38,440
It's hard to get back into life 
and the real world and all of 

591
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,400
that. 
And so I was just like, gosh, 

592
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,560
you just don't see it and you're
just fearful. 

593
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,200
So he comes home and and I 
actually had been in therapy. 

594
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000
My therapist, Lori Gaylor, if 
you're out there, shout out if 

595
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,360
you need a Christian counselor, 
I highly recommend Lori Gaylor. 

596
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,520
But I have been working with her
for years, probably 10 plus 

597
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,800
years. 
And I was meeting with her 

598
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,760
because that was a figure. 
I was like, he's going to come 

599
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,760
home and, you know, what do we 
do? 

600
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,440
Yeah. 
And so she was like, you know, 

601
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,320
I've, I've been the 
authoritative parent to Cal now 

602
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,000
for 10 months. 
And she was like, yeah, she was 

603
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,960
telling me, you know, Mitch 
really needs to focus and come 

604
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,840
in and be Cal's friend. 
Like he needs to be his friend. 

605
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,000
You need to continue to be the 
tell him what to do to be the 

606
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,360
parent to the the the authority 
figure. 

607
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,000
And then she said as time goes 
on, slowly start, you know, 

608
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,320
bringing Mitchell back into that
role because it we didn't want 

609
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,800
how to think here he comes back 
and all of a sudden he's telling

610
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,560
me what to do. 
And we didn't want want that. 

611
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,760
So that went really well. 
I'm so glad that I had heard it 

612
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,400
to help me with that. 
And so he came in, he just was 

613
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,520
Cal's friend and it worked out 
really well. 

614
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,199
And so another thing that 
happened was when Mitch came 

615
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,880
home, we have a, a family friend
at the church that we used to go

616
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,720
to Mitchell's church. 
And he works in Little Debbie 

617
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,040
district distribution in middle 
Georgia. 

618
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,040
And he reached out to Mitch and 
was like, hey, like I got 

619
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,960
something that can get you on 
feet, like let's get going 

620
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,800
because that was kind of one of 
the requirements. 

621
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,800
And so the sooner we did that, 
the sooner thanks for going to 

622
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,080
get moving back to normal. 
And so even he thought, you 

623
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,920
know, I'm going to get this to 
Mitch, like just to as a 

624
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,440
temporary thing. 
He didn't, you know, think that 

625
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Mitchell would want to continue 
to do that. 

626
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,800
And Mitch didn't know either, 
but he was thankful. 

627
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,240
So he started doing that and, 
and he loved it. 

628
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,080
Wow. 
I mean, we joke all the time. 

629
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,240
I'm like, yeah, I don't have 
this Sunday. 

630
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,920
Scary. 
Yeah, he loves it. 

631
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,640
I mean, he just absolutely looks
forward to it. 

632
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560
And so he originally he was just
kind of helping out, but now he 

633
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,560
has his own route in middle 
Georgia and he he's like, I'm 

634
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,920
out and about every day. 
I'm talking to people. 

635
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,320
He was like, I'm active. 
And he kind of sets his 

636
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,040
schedule. 
I mean, look at golf, I mean 

637
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440
from and even in banking, he he 
didn't like it. 

638
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,520
He sat in the office all day. 
He complained, You know, he was 

639
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,400
just like not for him. 
And so to go from something like

640
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,200
that and into where he had to go
and then back into something 

641
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,000
that just. 
Just yes, because what are the 

642
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,400
chances if something were wasn't
to happen, would you have left 

643
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,760
banking? 
You know what I'm saying? 

644
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,360
Like and unless something like 
that and now to see like, oh, I 

645
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,800
love to go to work. 
I love to work, you know, just 

646
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,360
like. 
That I'm like what? 

647
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,720
I know. 
Yeah, that's how I feel that 

648
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:41,880
like, I do love to work. 
I love my job. 

649
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,360
I love everything that I do. 
So I get it. 

650
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,120
And then I look back at my other
job that I had for six years 

651
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,720
before this and I'm like, I hate
it going to work. 

652
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,080
So I was just crazy how these 
things happen and God just puts 

653
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,240
us in his will. 
And you know, it's just like 

654
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,120
when he said, you know, I know 
the plans I have for years, you 

655
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,960
know, not for prosper, not for 
harm, for hope and a future. 

656
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,720
I truly think about that. 
And I'm like in the at the time,

657
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,000
I'm like, this is harm. 
I don't like it. 

658
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,040
This feels like harm, but it 
truly is. 

659
00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:19,880
I mean, I heard something on 
social media other day and it 

660
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:24,080
was like, we want all these good
qualities, You know, we ask, you

661
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,560
know, God for faithfulness, 
gentleness, goodness, kindness, 

662
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,240
joy. 
We want all these things and we 

663
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:35,200
expect him to just wave this 
want over us, you know? 

664
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,680
But truly, 99% of the time we 
get those qualities through pain

665
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,600
and through crows and valleys. 
He's refining and you know, 

666
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,320
that's he really was like, it 
felt like harm, but it truly was

667
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,440
for a future for Prosper. 
You're cooking. 

668
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,680
You're. 
Cooking girl, I feel it in my 

669
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,760
heart girl and I have and I just
thank you for the opportunity 

670
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,520
because I have been like I need 
to share this because even if 

671
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,080
even if Mary's haven't gone is a
very specific example Mary, if 

672
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,920
you haven't gone through this 
specific the lessons are the 

673
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,760
same. 
You know what I mean? 

674
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,680
And I just feel like it is so 
hard. 

675
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,120
If you are in that valley, if 
you are in that place where you 

676
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:29,520
cannot see the light, I promise 
you, hold tight, stand firm, 

677
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,720
bloom where you're planted. 
Because I never could have 

678
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:38,680
imagined that what we have now 
and where we're at now could 

679
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,200
have happened when I was back in
that. 

680
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Spot go in from that, tell us a 
little bit or I actually you're 

681
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,720
doing a great job because every 
time I ask she's like, hang on, 

682
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,000
I got a I'm not there yet. 
No. 

683
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,080
So if we're ready, tell us how 
y'all got to Southside, 

684
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,840
Kathleen. 
Yeah, so unfortunately while 

685
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,440
Mitchell was gone, his long term
pastor passed away. 

686
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,360
And even before he did, we were 
just kind of looking for 

687
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,920
something. 
We weren't all getting fed. 

688
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,520
And so when that happened and 
Mitch came back, I was like, 

689
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,280
this is the perfect time for us 
to kind of see cows, you know, 

690
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,520
12-11 at the time. 
And, you know, we really want to

691
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:28,560
get him involved and we want 
somewhere where we just. 

692
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,360
Could get a fresh start. 
And, you know, throughout that 

693
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,440
whole incident, you know, it was
very public. 

694
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040
And so we were just like, we 
need somewhere fresh, somewhere 

695
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,080
to just start new together. 
And so honestly, we had started 

696
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,040
Southside because we originally 
thought we were going to go to 

697
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:47,920
Southside Hawkinsville. 
And we were like, well, let's 

698
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,640
just go to Kathleen. 
Let's get plugged in, start 

699
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,640
getting the feel of it. 
And then when Hawkinsville, 

700
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,880
because, you know, we're out in 
Haynesville, when Hawkinsville 

701
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,240
opens, we'll just trance 
transfer over there. 

702
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,880
Yeah. 
And so that's what we did. 

703
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,480
We joined Kathleen and girl. 
No. 

704
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,400
We got involved and we were 
like, we can't guess where we'll

705
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:05,800
be. 
Yeah. 

706
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,480
And no, no offense to any other 
location. 

707
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,040
It just God spoke to us there 
and we just adore Jeremy and 

708
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,080
Sharon and the whole everybody 
there. 

709
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,560
They've just been so welcoming. 
And so that's kind of how that 

710
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,360
happened. 
Yeah. 

711
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,360
I love that just because, and 
there's no ill will or anything 

712
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,040
on your old church, but some you
have to find your place, your 

713
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,840
family, your people that are 
going to pour into you. 

714
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,440
And you know, with Southside 
Kathleen, I see the fruit of, 

715
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,440
you know what Jeremy's doing 
there. 

716
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,120
You know, it's a young crowd, 
people with kids, the high 

717
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,960
school and middle schools 
growing, and it's just a perfect

718
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,880
place for cow to get plugged in 
as well. 

719
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,960
And so then y'all get there and 
I think Mitch also serves as 

720
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,200
well, right? 
Yeah, So I don't know which one 

721
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,000
it is. 
I'm not sure if it's a greeter 

722
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,400
or a usher, but he's one. 
I love you both. 

723
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,960
At this point, you never know 
because yeah, I'm serving 

724
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,840
photography, He's doing things. 
So we're kind of just moving 

725
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,640
around amongst each other and 
cow goes sometimes to the middle

726
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,920
school at 11:30. 
So yeah, he's serving too. 

727
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,000
And we're just honestly, this is
I'm glad you brought that up 

728
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,600
because I wanted to say this, 
you know, what are we doing now?

729
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,040
Because, you know, God brought 
us through this. 

730
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,600
What are we doing now? 
And I feel like we, that's what 

731
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,200
I wanted to share is I feel 
like, and you've probably heard 

732
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,320
this before, but you know, 
you're either about to go into a

733
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,480
valley, you're in one, or you're
just coming out of 1. 

734
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,120
And so I'm a firm believer in, 
you know, preparation. 

735
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,600
You know, we're preparing. 
I mean, it's not like we're 

736
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,320
doomsdayers, like they're just 
waiting. 

737
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,200
But like what I'm saying is 
strengthening the marriage, 

738
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,240
strengthening the family home, 
strengthening your faith so that

739
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,400
it's not when you know, if it's 
when it happens that you're the 

740
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,280
strongest that you can be and 
that you're able to put on the 

741
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,040
armor of God and you're able to 
walk straight through it, you 

742
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,480
know, and, and that's what he 
says he's like, when you go 

743
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,680
through deep waters, I'll be 
with you, right? 

744
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,880
Not if so, just strengthening 
and, you know, enjoying it 

745
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,560
because we're in, we're in a 
season of just absolute joy 

746
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,800
right now. 
And I'm so thankful for it, but 

747
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,280
just always knowing that it's 
not not exempt because we went 

748
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,520
through 1, you know what I mean?
All right, check, we're done. 

749
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,240
We got ours. 
We're good. 

750
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:24,440
Yeah, I know. 
So we we're doing that and and 

751
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,120
that is I just think part of 
just growing and learning. 

752
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,080
And if you haven't been through 
something like that, you don't 

753
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:40,960
appreciate that season. 
And so I just think that always 

754
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,920
being prepared and just knowing 
that you're not exempt. 

755
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,400
I'm actually working on I'm so, 
so crazy that you said the whole

756
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,040
season. 
Thanks. 

757
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,720
I haven't heard that in a while 
and I'm planning this message 

758
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,720
right now for event that I'm 
doing and I'm going to talk 

759
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,600
about the going into a season. 
You're in a season or you're 

760
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,280
leaving storm season, whatever. 
And so you just saying that I'm 

761
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,480
like, oh, I'm going to keep 
going with that. 

762
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:07,320
That was. 
Called. 

763
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,360
OK, so this is a little bit off 
the rails, but on the rails 

764
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,400
because this is about now 
content creation girl. 

765
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Oh, you did not. 
Never do this. 

766
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:23,080
I did not I didn't I didn't, but
OK, not this. 

767
00:43:23,240 --> 00:43:26,560
We don't have to talk about like
that and as but there are so 

768
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:31,040
many people that want a 
platform, want a following, want

769
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,520
all these things and you know 
you you're somebody that I go 

770
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,280
to. 
I'm like, Rachel, what's going 

771
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,400
on? 
Like whatever. 

772
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,680
And so just a word maybe of 
advice. 

773
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,240
You have a whole different 
segment that ends this 

774
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:48,560
typically, but this is for this 
word of advice for someone that 

775
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:53,880
does want to get into a TikTok 
shop or, you know, just growing 

776
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,320
as an influencer, content 
creation, whatever that may be. 

777
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Tell us a little bit about that 
because you do very well, right?

778
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Like you do very well, girl. 
So tell us. 

779
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,960
That's for sure. 
I am. 

780
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,400
Let's see. 
I mean, I guess I've been doing 

781
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,440
it for what, a little over a 
year now. 

782
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,360
And honestly, I just fell into 
my lap. 

783
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,040
Like I was like just on TikTok 
and I was like, oh, maybe I can 

784
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,080
do this. 
And so I just started kind of 

785
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,360
engaging and, and doing the 
thing. 

786
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,560
And then I started, you know, 
got into the TikTok shop and 

787
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,440
then, you know, working my way 
up to getting free everything. 

788
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,240
Yeah. 
And doing a little videos and I 

789
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:36,280
was like, you know what? 
Like at first I was like, really

790
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,400
like, what are people going to 
think of? 

791
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,400
Yeah. 
And I like that hits hard. 

792
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,280
And I'm not going to say it 
doesn't because we are human, 

793
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,560
you know what I mean? 
And you're like, Oh my gosh, 

794
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,160
what are they going to say? 
I know what are they saying 

795
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,520
about me? 
But you know, I've just like 

796
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,520
prayed about that too, because, 
you know, to this, that might be

797
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,880
silly to song, you know, TikTok 
shop or whatever, But like it's,

798
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,640
it's been a real success for me 
and it's been something that I 

799
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,360
pray over and you know, like, 
give me the strength, give me 

800
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,160
the confidence, you know what I 
mean? 

801
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,920
Give me the confidence in this. 
And so that's kind of like what 

802
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,000
I go through with is like, you 
know, you can do this. 

803
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,280
You know, it's a financial 
blessing to your family. 

804
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,920
You know, and I just say do it 
like it is. 

805
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,720
But a lot of people ask me, but 
you have to be serious about it.

806
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,080
I mean, it is a commitment and 
it is a consistency. 

807
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,600
Like it's not, it's not going to
be 123 videos and it's there. 

808
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,400
Right, you got them. 
Get in the war. 

809
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,800
Yes, and and there are more 
flops and there are her and you 

810
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,640
probably know yes. 
And you know, I brought that up 

811
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,200
just because ohh, I get the ick 
about my own video girl. 

812
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,560
It's a real thing. 
And then you see the little like

813
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,800
where it's shared and they'll 
say like people don't share it. 

814
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,440
And I'm like, what you who 
shared it? 

815
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,320
What group chat was that in? 
You know. 

816
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,840
But at the same time, we're 
trying like for me too. 

817
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,240
And I know you use, you know, 
your platform too. 

818
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:01,120
And I'm using it to share the 
gospel as well. 

819
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Like maybe I am, you know, 
putting a little clothes or 

820
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,520
something on there. 
But I'm going to use that music.

821
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,400
I'm going to do those songs. 
I'm going to talk about the 

822
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,480
Lord. 
I'm going to like, there's so 

823
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,760
many other avenues than just, I 
don't want people to think, oh, 

824
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,040
she's just trying to, you know, 
grow like whatever. 

825
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:18,640
Like no, this is part of my 
ministry as well. 

826
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,520
And it's, it's truly a business 
like you're, it's not just 

827
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,280
trying to get people that to 
like you, you know, or whatever.

828
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,760
I mean, that's nice when it 
happens, but it's not the reason

829
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:35,760
for doing any of it. 
And you know, you never know who

830
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,680
you're hitting that day. 
And you probably, and most more 

831
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,120
times than not, you won't ever 
know. 

832
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,920
But you know, that one person 
that might say, wow, I needed 

833
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,160
that today. 
You know, it's worth it. 

834
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Amen. 
And it's just, it's been a 

835
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640
blessing. 
So my, my take away from it is 

836
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,240
you got to be serious. 
Yeah. 

837
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,520
You got to really want to do it.
You got to put the time and the 

838
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,480
effort and the consistency in. 
That's good. 

839
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,400
But it's worth it. 
Yes, yes. 

840
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,640
OK. 
So now we are going to close the

841
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,560
actual podcast and this is how 
this the serious side of it. 

842
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,320
OK, I asked three questions each
time. 

843
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,160
OK, one question, maybe you 
really want to talk about 

844
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,640
something. 
Maybe you're in the car and 

845
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,400
you're like me and I really want
to talk about this and I haven't

846
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,640
gave you the opportunity to do 
so. 

847
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,960
Two, maybe a word of advice to 
these women that are walking 

848
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,400
through a tough season or three 
was something that God's 

849
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,560
revealed to you more recently 
that like when I say that, like 

850
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,640
the light bulb went off, you 
know, like so many times we read

851
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,560
a scripture and we're like, OK, 
yeah, yeah. 

852
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,080
Then later on it clicks and 
you're like, that's what that 

853
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,960
means, you know? 
So how do you want to end this 

854
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:40,920
today? 
Yeah. 

855
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:44,600
So what was the first one? 
You wanted to talk about 

856
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:45,960
something that I haven't gave 
you opportunity. 

857
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Yeah, so I wanted to share that 
my mother-in-law, while this 

858
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,920
whole thing happened from, you 
know, 2021 to goodness, I guess 

859
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,400
the whole the yeah, the whole 
thing while Mitch was gone, she 

860
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,200
kept this entire journal of 
things that happened and the 

861
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:10,320
ways God worked through this. 
But there was one thing that she

862
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,560
had written down right here on 
the front that I wanted to share

863
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,120
because it just was so profound.
And it just says that life is 

864
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,160
not perfect. 
Is he? 

865
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,960
Her handwriting is pretty bad. 
So my life is not perfect, but 

866
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,280
our God is. 
God doesn't always take us out 

867
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,400
of our valleys, but He will 
always bring us through them. 

868
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:34,040
It's often in the unknown that 
God shows us the most powerful 

869
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,280
revelations about who He is and 
who we are. 

870
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,880
That's good. 
I love that woman. 

871
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Yeah, me too. 
I know you do 'cause you do talk

872
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,480
so highly about her. 
And I'm just, you know, there's 

873
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160
so many times that we get, you 
know, these godsends and to her,

874
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,480
to you, I can see that she is a 
godsend. 

875
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,880
Yes. 
And so anyway, I think that's 

876
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:57,400
going to close it up. 
Girl, I think you did 

877
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600
incredible. 
This is a such a powerful story 

878
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,960
and I pray that women take away 
from this and they're in a tough

879
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,400
time, maybe in their marriage 
and their life and their career,

880
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,160
whatever that may be. 
And just know that God's, God's 

881
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,560
working God can move, but you 
got to surrender to him. 

882
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,200
That's right. 
Got to all right guys. 

883
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,880
I hope you enjoyed this as much 
as I have. 

884
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Not a like flex or anything or 
like whatever, but we are 5O1C3 

885
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,400
now. 
So if you feel led to donate in 

886
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,440
any way towards this ministry, 
it will be very appreciative. 

887
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,440
Make sure you like, share, 
comment, whatever that looks 

888
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,600
like for you. 
I hope you enjoyed this as much 

889
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,360
as I did. 
Stay tuned, stay blessed and 

890
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,320
we'll see you guys later. 
Bye.

