1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,600 What's up, guys? My name's Alexis. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,680 And I'm Abby. And we are your hosts with 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,280 praises in the pod. We're so excited to just be 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,480 talking with one another, talking with y'all, and just 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,239 talking about all things God and what He's doing in our lives. 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,320 We're going to start off in prayer and then we're going to 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,880 jump right in. So here we go Lord, we just 8 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,160 thank you for all that you have done in our lives. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,520 Lord God, we thank you for that. We have this place where we can 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,960 come and talk about you and your goodness and your faithfulness. 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,840 Lord, we pray that you continue to lead us and guide us. 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,960 We pray that our life just glorifies you. 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,400 We pray that you speak to us and through US today and let this 14 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,240 episode glorify you. In Jesus name I pray. 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,840 Amen. Amen. 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Amen. So girl, again, we haven't 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,560 recorded in a while. I see. 18 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,080 I don't feel like it's been that long. 19 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,120 It's been like a month. No, I. 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,200 Feel like 2 weeks or? Something. 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,840 This a lot I guess has happened in two weeks. 22 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,480 I guess, girl, I'm like, I can't keep up. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Me neither. I feel like I'm up here 24 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,200 recording with somebody like every other week or every other 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,320 day. Not every other week. 26 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:15,320 It's all the time. I know I'm like, I love it, but 27 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:18,120 at the same time I'm like, I have so much to edit right now. 28 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,080 I'm a little overwhelmed, yeah. I'm really needing help with 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,320 editing no. No, I mean I have gotten a few 30 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:32,440 episodes for like edited for me through Seth, which is hopefully 31 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,680 sooner or later gonna be our editor for praises in the pod, 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,120 but we gotta get some sponsors and stuff first. 33 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Yeah, OK. Yeah, cuz don't hire me for 34 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,240 that. Girl, it is so hard. 35 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,160 It takes a while to edit an episode. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,040 Yeah, I can imagine that being very. 37 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Difficult yes. So I mean like the episode that 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,160 came out with Mallory Smith. I didn't even watch that one. 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,760 So I gave him all the files. I cried that whole episode 40 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,000 almost. So I was like, he was like, 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,800 I'll, I'll edit. It was probably needed that he 42 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,280 edited that 10. My gosh, it was so good. 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,760 I'm so glad that he did. But he was like, hey, you know, 44 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,400 we're going on a staff retreat and he was like, I have a few 45 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,800 hours to kill. Like give me some of your files 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,240 and I'll edit them. And I was like, OK, so he does. 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,160 And I gave him that one so I could be like an like experience 48 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,440 the podcast like other people do and just. 49 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,720 Really be. Able to listen to it and not 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,640 know what was coming next. You know cuz like I have the 51 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:35,320 conversation then I edit the whole thing but. 52 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,240 There's so many like pieces. Pieces in. 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,520 It you don't remember specifically, but then when I 54 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,640 listen it back. Yes. 55 00:02:41,640 --> 00:02:43,840 And I'm like, wow, so it was so good. 56 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,480 I was just crying about that one too. 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:52,360 But yeah, eventually, man, the man needs to be our editor for 58 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,400 sure. Anyway, we were kind of talking 59 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,160 about some things that we wanted to talk about on this episode, 60 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,200 and one of those was. Kind of, but we've been or 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,480 you've been kind of wanting to talk about this for a while. 62 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,920 Yeah, I have, because both of us in a big way. 63 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:12,440 I feel like our spiritual walk changed with this. 64 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,080 Anyway, we're going to talk about modesty. 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,480 OK? So I feel like BC the way that I 66 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,200 dressed changed significantly. It's so funny that you say BC. 67 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,600 My before Christ changed significantly. 68 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,400 Like I wanted my body to be seen. 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,760 Oh yeah. I mean I wanted to dress like 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,240 the tightest clothes, a low cut shirts like all this. 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Maybe it wasn't even the way that we dressed. 72 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,480 It was the way that we presented ourselves or the way we wanted 73 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,440 others to see us. Yeah. 74 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,080 Definitely. I mean, I, I feel like that just 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,640 really changed when I started like falling in love with 76 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,720 Christ, I started falling in love with my natural self. 77 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,000 And I think that it was something that I just really 78 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,360 wanted to talk about because like, I feel the same way about 79 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,440 you. Like you used to be dressing and 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,840 looking like for acceptance from the world and now you're just 81 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,360 more natural. Like Abby was getting her hair 82 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,839 done like every other week. Different colors. 83 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,839 Different colors. You name it, I was getting it 84 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:20,959 that red. Phase. 85 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,400 Red face. I ended up being an orange face. 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,040 That is orange face. I begged her. 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:27,360 I was like, you need to do your hair red. 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,200 And she was like, OK, fine, whatever, I'll do it. 89 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,880 And then it just like washed out like 24 hours. 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,680 My hair like OK, well my hair never holds a color so that's 91 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,840 why I just keep it dark now because I mean, there's no 92 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:43,360 telling how much money I spent and threw at my hair over. 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,440 Those years. Speaking of money though, for 94 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,240 real like. Oh yeah. 95 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,440 OK, well that can go in or lead in. 96 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Modesty to be talking. About is when you align yourself 97 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,320 with Christ and you want guidance from the Holy Spirit 98 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,320 and he does start guiding you and you want to do things that 99 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,640 please him. I mean one of those things are 100 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,640 your finances. You know you want to do right by 101 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,880 your money because you understand or you see it in a 102 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,840 different way that this is from him. 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,960 Everything that is given to me is from him. 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,720 So now I want to do right by those things and in that in turn 105 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,440 with that came. I don't want to just throw money 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,120 away anymore and be wasteful for things that didn't bring me the 107 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,320 satisfaction because I never got the satisfaction out of the new 108 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,600 hairstyle. Maybe it lasted a week and then 109 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,640 I never got the satisfaction out of Oh my goodness, I want this 110 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,720 outfit so bad. These shoes, you know, 111 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:39,200 everything that I would purchase never brought me full 112 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,920 satisfaction. And so it's just like a whole 113 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,520 chain of events that have happened. 114 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,720 And it's not necessarily that I made it a point to say I am, you 115 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,680 know, going to change the way I dress. 116 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,440 I am going to change the way I do my hair or my makeup and be 117 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,160 more modest. Those thoughts never crossed my 118 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,240 mind. It was just OK. 119 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,840 Now I'm wanting guidance from the Holy Spirit. 120 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,360 I want to do what pleases God. And in turn, those things 121 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,600 changed. I mean, I really do sit with 122 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,400 that because it's not. I never once was like, oh, my 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,360 style just changed. Yeah, like. 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,440 Or I'm about to wake up one day and change everything or. 125 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,600 I'll never going to really wear makeup again. 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,680 Like it just never really happened. 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,840 That way and and nothing against no. 128 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:21,480 People or none? What's what? 129 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Do that or you know, I mean what you know, you can. 130 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,480 It's not that biblical that that's not cryoside to get your 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,720 hair done all the time. That's not what we're saying. 132 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,040 We're just saying when we decided to give up certain 133 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,080 things, we became a little bit more modest in the end, yeah. 134 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,840 Like that being like dressing, I mean, modesty goes across the 135 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:46,440 board in so many settings, right? 136 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,960 Like not just with our clothes, like you just mentioned your 137 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,240 finances. And I heard this a while back 138 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,880 and it was saying something somebody said, you know, they, 139 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,680 they say, they say university because they say a lot of 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,280 things. But who are they? 141 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,000 Who are they? But I heard someone say, and 142 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,480 they're like, God's going to give you a certain amount to see 143 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,320 how like, well, you do with it. And he's not going to give you 144 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:17,440 more if you're not balancing it maybe correctly being a good 145 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,520 steward of it. That's good. 146 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,440 That's good. But yeah, like if you're not 147 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,040 doing well with your finances, why is God going to bless you 148 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,680 more to be even more reckless, You know? 149 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 And I feel like even with my job now, like I'm making way less 150 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,200 money than what I did before. But I'm like I don't even really 151 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,160 notice because like I. Really, did habits have? 152 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Changed my habits truly changed like take out the local and all 153 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,000 that that I used to spend money on. 154 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,080 Like really take that out. Like I really stopped buying 155 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,440 clothes. Like I was thinking about this 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,080 earlier. I've had these pants for like a 157 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,720 year and I've even lost all this weight and like they're like 158 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,480 falling off, but I'm like they still fit, like they still look 159 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,200 fine, you know, like I really don't have to run out and get a 160 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:05,600 new outfit all the time and all this like I'm just trying to be 161 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,360 a better. Yeah, for sure. 162 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,760 That definitely leads because when we had this conversation 163 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,880 about talking about modesty, in the back of my mind I'm like, 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,760 well, OK, how do you talk about something you didn't 165 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,200 intentionally change or give somebody advice with something 166 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,360 you didn't intentionally do? And because we didn't, I mean, 167 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,320 just like you're saying, I don't think you did either. 168 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:33,720 It was just a product of, you know, changing our lives and 169 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,159 following the spirit, and then those things change. 170 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:41,039 So I was trying to think about how in the world do we portray 171 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,960 this to people and portray it in a way where it's not like, 172 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,360 what's the term I'm looking for? We do this every. 173 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:53,120 Time. Every time making somebody feel 174 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,000 like inferior. Yeah. 175 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Then. OK. 176 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,800 Does that make sense? A little bit. 177 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,560 What are you trying? To we might have to cut this. 178 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,840 No, no, what? What now? 179 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,200 How do you portray modesty as a Christian when you become a 180 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,320 Christian without making somebody feel that they have to 181 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,480 live up to a certain standard? Yeah, because that is not, I 182 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,760 think when I. Or it come off judgmental. 183 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Or it come off. Judgmental. 184 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,320 I think that's more of what you're trying to say is like, 185 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,640 how do you talk about this without being judgmental? 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,160 Yeah, because used to. I have a friend. 187 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Because Jesus loves, loved us. And in those periods. 188 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:35,760 Yes, I do think we are called to be more modest or not desire a 189 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:42,680 worldly stance or desire a worldly, you know, appearance. 190 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,240 Yeah, where we feel accepted by the world. 191 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,960 That is truly biblical. And we are not called to do that 192 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,840 or live that way or live out that way. 193 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,800 But there is a balance between you, don't you know? 194 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,440 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also, you know, if you're 195 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,680 looking like the world and conforming to the world, then 196 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:05,440 that is going against, right? You know, we're we're called to 197 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,120 be set apart. We're called to be holy and live 198 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,680 a righteous life. Are we going to be perfect? 199 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:12,840 Absolutely not. But at the same time, we're not 200 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,920 supposed to look like the rest of the world. 201 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,440 And so one of the first things that I thought was crazy when I 202 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,080 got on this side of Jesus was like Michelle that I work with. 203 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,840 She always used to say stuff like Palm Pilot and like that 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,120 meant like you put your palm on your chest and your shirt 205 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,640 shouldn't be like this low. And I've never heard of that. 206 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,840 I know girl, I've never heard that either. 207 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,560 Michelle did it. And I'm like, she's crazy, like 208 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:40,680 whatever. And now I'm like, no, pull your 209 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:47,160 shirt up, you know, like, and so at first I did think it was like 210 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:51,360 a little crazy, like to, you know, have shirts like cover 211 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,280 your butt or stuff like that. But then the longer that I 212 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:59,160 walked with Christ, I'm like, I really don't want to like tempt 213 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:03,640 anyone to look at me in like a sexualized way or like, because 214 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,720 that's for my husband too, you know. 215 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,720 So it's like. Well, I think what ultimately 216 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,680 happens is there becomes a separation from you in the 217 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:12,520 world. Yeah. 218 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:17,760 What you, what you used to do, living in a worldly stance, no 219 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,720 longer is a desire of your heart. 220 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,560 Yeah. And so like you're saying, I 221 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:25,880 don't even desire to dress that way or have those things shown. 222 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:27,960 Yeah. Because that was the worldly 223 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,720 view. That's what is normal to the 224 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,560 world. Well, now we don't live in the 225 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:34,040 world anymore. We don't live on that side of 226 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,360 normal. Everyone thinks we're abnormal 227 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,200 now. By what we do. 228 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,840 So there's that separation of Christ in the world, and that's 229 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,920 what starts to happen. I and I've been seeing a lot 230 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,880 about like, I feel like there really is a revival in our 231 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,680 country kind of going on a little bit. 232 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,160 Yes. And. 233 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,840 I just talked about this at Life Group last night. 234 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,800 I'm like, I'm gonna have to come back to that after we click off 235 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,880 this. I'm kind of cool. 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,280 We're going to come back to that. 237 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,880 Why? Because I've been telling y'all 238 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,160 I want to come to your life group and y'all never tell me 239 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,400 when y'all meet I. Thought we did tell you about 240 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,080 this. You went to the Grove or 241 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,360 something? You did. 242 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,280 You did? Yeah, I did. 243 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:17,760 I forgot. I forgot. 244 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,480 Anyway, I have been really like noticing a big difference like I 245 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:26,720 don't know about. TV and TV. 246 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,360 And stuff like that. Like I'm starting to see people 247 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,120 really try to find their way with God more recently, 248 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,400 especially like in our age group. 249 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,120 Like I have been really starting to see my friends start coming 250 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,120 to church or like start trying to be a part of something and 251 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,720 it's like, you know, you just, it's just awesome to see. 252 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,040 I don't know, I don't know where I'm going with that. 253 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Like I just have been thinking about that a lot lately. 254 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,240 Like it just really does feel like a revival's going on. 255 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:58,960 What y'all talk about? That how it seems that people 256 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:05,200 are are Christ and and Jesus is being portrayed more throughout 257 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,880 the world, not just the world, but you know, any even in the 258 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,640 US, especially through sports on TV, you know, certain football 259 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,400 players profess in their faith. American Idol. 260 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,240 What's been going on like on American Idol and just how 261 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:26,200 you're seeing even locally seeing more and more that we 262 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,760 know and that we're closer that we grew up with wanting a 263 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,960 relationship with Jesus, taking their family to church, just 264 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:36,280 being more involved and open. Whereas you used to feel like if 265 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,440 you even mentioned the word Jesus or church, you were looked 266 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,120 down upon. But now it's becoming more and 267 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,440 more not look down upon. And when we were talking about 268 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,840 it, Pat kind of asked us the question. 269 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,640 He's like, what does that mean to you guys? 270 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,080 What does that mean? Or what do you think of when you 271 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,400 see more and more about Jesus? And he was into me. 272 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,960 And I, what I said was that is not long. 273 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,920 He's coming back. Yeah, because there is a true 274 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,880 revival right before his coming back. 275 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,600 And so we might be in those times and it's scary to think 276 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:16,920 about, but it's so cool because it's like we're there, you know, 277 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,760 in our relationship with him and growing and then trying to help 278 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,920 others get there too. And it's just like, so cool to 279 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,560 see it happening. It is. 280 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,960 And I feel like, you know, a lot of it is because people are 281 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,040 starting to be more bold. Like used to, they would just, 282 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,040 you know, go to church here and there, whatever. 283 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,840 But now people are like professing their faith and 284 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:39,000 trying to live it out where others are like, well, let me 285 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,040 try that. And I think that's why it's so 286 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,560 big to talk about your testimony and talk about where you are in 287 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,200 the world. I heard Joyce Meyer say this and 288 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,440 it just stuck me. But she said when you walk by 289 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,600 the Spirit you will not gratify the desires of your flesh. 290 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,320 That and I'm like that's good. And she referenced Galatians 516 291 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,880 it says, so I say walk by the Spirit and you will not gratify 292 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,720 the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is 293 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,960 contrary to the spirit and the Spirit what is contrary to the 294 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,600 flesh. And I think that is what 295 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,400 literally goes on in our hearts desires when you accept him into 296 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,280 your life and you start growing with him is there's like this 297 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,760 divide of desires in your heart once once once was is no more. 298 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:34,520 And it it's the TV shows, the finances, the dress, the way 299 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,720 your hair is, the way you do your makeup, the way you even 300 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:42,080 talk to other people, the way you address other people. 301 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,120 It can be any aspect of your life starts to change because 302 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,840 the desires of your flesh and the desires of the Holy Spirit 303 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,200 are total opposite. Yeah, which I mean, your old 304 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,000 self died, you know, like you're a new person in Christ. 305 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,120 And so like with him living inside of you, those desires 306 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,720 will begin to change that that whole perception of things is 307 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,160 going to begin to change because it's not your old you anymore. 308 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,040 And if you do still feel the exact same, like I would 309 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,240 question it, are you seeking him? 310 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,880 Like, did you just say that prayer or did you mean it with 311 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,280 your whole heart? That just brings me back to our 312 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,680 message from this past weekend. Easter, the resurrection, you 313 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,800 know, there's a difference in I believe in what happened on the 314 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,360 cross. And it's like, OK, what are you 315 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,080 going to do with that one statement? 316 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,600 Jesus got up, We don't serve a, we serve a living God. 317 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,120 So what are you going to do with that statement? 318 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,360 And there's a difference in believing and in bringing change 319 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,280 and in actually living it out. And that was just something that 320 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,520 touched me really deeply this past weekend was hearing that is 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,040 like, what are you going to do with the news? 322 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,600 Yeah, because, like, what if, Mayor? 323 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,840 Are you going all in on that statement? 324 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaking of, I did just learn this. 325 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,280 So, you know, or I guess it clicked because one of the 326 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,760 scriptures that was up on the screen this past Sunday was, you 327 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:14,920 know, how the women were at the tomb when they went to go see 328 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:20,040 and the stone was rolled and one of them said, Mary, mother of 329 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,480 James. And I'm like, wait, is that? 330 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,160 Who's Joanna? I don't know who Joanna was. 331 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,040 I did not know that girl, but I was wondering that. 332 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,080 And I'm like, well, if that's the mother of James, wouldn't 333 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,520 that still be Jesus's mother because they're brothers? 334 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,760 Yeah, it wasn't. It was a whole different, 335 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,720 different Mary. I had no idea, girl. 336 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,760 And it's like that kind of stuff. 337 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,240 Like the longer you walk with him, he really does open your 338 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:54,040 eyes to be able to interpret and understand Scripture so much 339 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,440 more. Because like I've read that, 340 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,120 like what we talked about that pretty much every Easter, you 341 00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,960 know, those three women being at the tomb. 342 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,680 And I'm like, I thought it was his mom the whole entire time. 343 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,240 Another thing about his mom that I've been on a kick about 344 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,040 because I saw this TikTok and it was like a mom holding her baby, 345 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,960 right? And she was. 346 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:18,000 And the thing on top of it said, do you think that Mary was 347 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,680 having flashbacks while she was watching Jesus die on the cross 348 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:26,240 and like was picturing him as a child and the infant and all 349 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,920 this? And I'm like, oh, for sure, you 350 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,280 never think about like her. Like you've thought about her 351 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,880 witnessing, you know, your child being beaten but and like, die 352 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,080 on the cross and all this. But like, I guess I never 353 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,280 thought about her. Like it's like going through it. 354 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:48,040 That was a crazy time, if you think about it, because we live 355 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:54,520 in a time where Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice and came down 356 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,120 and gave us his spirit. They were living in time. 357 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,280 They didn't have that. Yeah. 358 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:03,480 They were still doing sacrificial sacrifices, their 359 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,120 land, their best lamb, their best goat. 360 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,560 So they did not have the spirit leading them. 361 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,040 So I there have been so many times where I have felt empty 362 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,640 and down and dark and hopeless and I can't in imagine in that 363 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:22,800 moment, not even having the spirit being in that time before 364 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,840 his death, what they were feeling. 365 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,520 It's so hard to even imagine because like, I'm like, I would 366 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:34,000 not, I wish, I don't wish, but like, you know, to just ex like 367 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,440 experience what that's like. But I guess we technically have 368 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,840 because we were living without Jesus before his Holy Spirit 369 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,080 didn't live inside of us. So basically it was that same 370 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,520 thing when you feel hopeless, when that depression is just so 371 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,880 heavy on you and you can't do nothing with it. 372 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,240 You don't know where to turn. You feel like you're just 373 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,040 blowing with the wind. I mean, I guess that's how they 374 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,800 felt, you know, back again, but I don't know this Easter. 375 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,000 I think though sometimes in this on this side, it's so easy to be 376 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,680 Luke warm like I was for so long. 377 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:11,280 How many times did I hear? The message Jesus got up, He is 378 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:12,880 alive. He is here. 379 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,080 Like when are you going to accept him? 380 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,160 Like when are you going to give it all up for him? 381 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,960 When are you going all in on that one statement? 382 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,360 I believed. I walked around. 383 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,280 I'm like, I know Jesus walked this earth. 384 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,520 I know. I believe he died. 385 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:31,800 Was I ready to give it up? No, I did not go in, go all in 386 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:36,880 on that statement. And so it's easy to walk around 387 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,320 and believe, but there's a difference in walking around. 388 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,360 Believing and giving it. You're giving it you're. 389 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,720 All and that's what I was trying to say is like just this Easter, 390 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:52,040 it's just been such a different feeling with Easter, like having 391 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,160 a true relationship with Jesus Christ and like comprehending 392 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,560 more and like understanding more and just realizing the the 393 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:07,560 multitude of what he did on that cross was just like so just 394 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,960 different this year to me. Like it's like he just was 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:16,120 revealed so much more to me here in the past like month or so. 396 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:21,160 Like I didn't. Realize the extent of what He 397 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,240 did on that cross when the veil was completely torn and He 398 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,040 embodied every bit of every single person's sin in that 399 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:36,720 moment, and when everything went dark for us to have a completely 400 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,960 divine, no interference relationship with. 401 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,560 God. That has hit me hard, like I 402 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,480 even wrote something on it the other night. 403 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,720 Hold on, let me see if I can find it really quick. 404 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,960 While you're looking for that, that just hit me probably within 405 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,920 the last six months of like when the veil was torn. 406 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,960 Like we didn't have to go to a mountaintop. 407 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,600 We didn't have to go into this holy place. 408 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,440 We didn't have to go all these places to talk to God like he 409 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,040 made it able to, where we could be with him no matter where we 410 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,960 were, no matter if we were laying down talking just 411 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,360 randomly like we can be with him. 412 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Yeah, I wrote. Jesus was the ultimate 413 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,520 satisfaction of God's wrath. We are clothed in his 414 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,080 satisfaction because of what took place on the cross. 415 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,960 When we believe he no longer sees our sins. 416 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,360 But the blood coverage of Jesus is atoned unto us, meaning we 417 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,840 are reconciled with God. If God looks at Jesus with 418 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,480 complete satisfaction and we look for Jesus with our entire 419 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,800 hearts, we are now all in one through Jesus. 420 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,920 When we are in Jesus and Jesus in God, how can there be no 421 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,840 change? That's what I wrote. 422 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:51,280 But just really realizing the magnitude of I have God's 423 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,080 satisfaction through Jesus in me now, yeah. 424 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,440 When God's looking down on us, right, like all he sees is 425 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,360 Jesus's blood, like the blood of the lamb. 426 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,760 And so like that kind of just hit me too, of that is why we're 427 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,840 covered by the blood. Like that's why we're not going 428 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,000 to have to experience his wrath because he died on the cross and 429 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,160 covered us, correct? And that's the same thing as 430 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,520 like him living inside of you, like his son lives inside of 431 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,680 you. You have the ultimate healer, 432 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,360 the ultimate friend. The all these episodes that we 433 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:32,680 talk about, that person lives inside of you. 434 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,360 You have access to all the information. 435 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:37,960 The Bible. If you pick it up and you start 436 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,280 reading and you keep reading, your knowledge is going to grow. 437 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,000 I remember at the very beginning, I put a questionnaire 438 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,800 on Instagram and somebody asked me like, you know, how do you 439 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,800 interpret the Bible and like actually understand what you're 440 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,880 reading? Just keep reading. 441 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,760 Just keep reading because the longer you walk, the more he'll 442 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,520 reveal. So we talked about this the 443 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,600 other night too, is how Jesus always talked in parables. 444 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,240 And honestly, when Jesus spoke it was not always easy to 445 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,080 understand. Sometimes it still is not for 446 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,120 me. And you know what? 447 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:14,360 Sometimes I need to read it right. 448 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,080 Those people couldn't read it back then. 449 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,040 They just had to hear it. And it's like. 450 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,040 Well, I got to read it a few times, but a lot of what Pat 451 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,800 puts it this way is so smart. It's so good, just so godly. 452 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,440 He said, you know, when he was speaking in parables in those 453 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,240 times, it weeded out all of the ones who really weren't that 454 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,280 interested and who really didn't want to get to know what he was 455 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,280 saying or understand what he was saying. 456 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,640 And the ones that did, they stuck around and they really 457 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,200 listen to him and they really try to understand him. 458 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920 And, and I think that kind of is, you know, when you start 459 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:56,240 getting in the word, when you get into it and you get out of 460 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,600 it really fast, how much did you truly desire to know it and to 461 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,040 understand it? But when you keep coming after 462 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040 it and really trying to understand it, seeking the Holy 463 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,840 Spirit to help you understand it, because it's not easy to 464 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,320 understand in graphs. There's a lot of parables in 465 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,200 there. There's so much that he spoke 466 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,520 of. It was so hard to understand at 467 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,000 times, going back to the tomb, when they came back to the tomb 468 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,440 and they're standing there and they look so confused, like what 469 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,640 is going on? You would think that they would 470 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,040 have walked up like Jesus is alive, he's up, he's good 471 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,400 because he just told him that a few days ago, right? 472 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,200 But sometimes I think he spoke in ways that was hard to 473 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,880 understand, to keep us our desire to keep understanding him 474 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,720 and knowing him and to show us how divine of a God we serve 475 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,320 and, and how powerful and all knowing he is and how little 476 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,360 knowing we are. Because if it was just that easy 477 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,560 to catch on to and, and Oh yeah, I'm good. 478 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 I understand what he's saying and move on from it. 479 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,960 You know, I don't think that it would keep us as intrigued 480 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,720 almost. I guess when I think about how 481 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,200 this all ties to modesty, it's like when you truly, you know, 482 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,480 accept the weight of what Jesus did on the cross for our sins 483 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,320 and what he, he was the ultimate sacrifice. 484 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:24,080 And so when you really are able to accept that and surrender, 485 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,280 that's when your modesty begins to change. 486 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,560 And it's not really like you're just outer appearance. 487 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,680 It's the inner appearance. It's the posture of our hearts. 488 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:38,160 It's the way that we're looking to guide people to him instead 489 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,840 of guiding people to ourselves. Yeah. 490 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,840 You know, And you know, me and Megan were just talking about 491 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600 the other day about you, the posture of your heart and, you 492 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,240 know, being in a place where it's true worship, like the way 493 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,640 that we're living our lives. Is it glorifying him or is it 494 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,200 glorifying ourselves? So that's kind of where I was 495 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,480 trying to like get to. And I was like, how does this 496 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,120 all tie together? But I think that's a great way 497 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,480 to say it is like. You it takes an inward change 498 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,760 first before you can see the outward change. 499 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:17,680 And you know, for me, when I see people come to Christ, it is so 500 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,080 amazing to see that transformation take place. 501 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,200 It's not overnight, but you do eventually see them or, or 502 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,440 especially at Celebrate Recovery when you see somebody come to 503 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,760 Christ. Or a lot of the guys I know from 504 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560 the mission that my dad has helped and I've seen them, you 505 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,560 know, from where they started to where they are. 506 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,520 It's like the most beautiful thing and it didn't happen 507 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,240 overnight, but what you saw was more of the purity of their 508 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,040 heart in the beginning. And then the result of that ends 509 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,920 up being outwardly what others can see. 510 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,680 And then that's how they're able to see Christ and able to, you 511 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,600 know, see Christ on the outward appearance of somebody. 512 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,080 But it really started from the inward change and their desires 513 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,600 of their heart. I feel like a lot of it, we was 514 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,520 just a talk and we just had some thoughts and we were like, we're 515 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,160 going to put it all together. We did. 516 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,040 We did. But, you know, tie it together. 517 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,800 At the end, we did tie it together at the end and we God, 518 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,120 if God's going to use it, he's going to use it and this is all 519 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:16,560 for him. So that's right. 520 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,800 He can use this in a mighty way. It don't matter if we talked 521 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,200 about just the most random things. 522 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,560 Somebody can take something from every episode because God uses 523 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,680 us as vessels and people as vessels and speaks through them 524 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,080 to certain people. So even if we think it's a 525 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,880 little chaotic sometimes, it's. Definitely chaotic, but it he 526 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,160 can make good out of anything. Absolutely. 527 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Amen. Amen. 528 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880 All right, guys. Well, we hope you enjoyed it 529 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,880 just as much as we did. Stay tuned, stay blessed, and 530 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,440 we'll see you guys next week. Bye.