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What's up guys? 
My name is Alexis Brown, your 

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host with Praising in the Pot, 
and I am so excited to have 

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Deborah Helms with us today. 
She is from the Potter's house. 

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She's their house mother and 
just been a part of my life for 

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so long. 
She has been a spiritual 

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influence for me, a spiritual 
leader for me. 

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And I just hope that her 
testimony touches you the way 

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that she's touched me. 
So we are going to start off in 

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prayer and then we're going to 
jump, right? 

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All right, Lord, Heavenly 
Father, thank you for today. 

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Dear God, thank you for all of 
your many blessings and all that

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you have done in our life. 
Lord, you kept your hand on us. 

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Lord, you kept us out of, you 
know, way worse than what we 

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ever could have dreamed could 
have happened to us. 

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Lord, but you pulled us out. 
We are so thankful for all that 

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you have done and all you 
continue to do and the things 

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that you're working on right now
that we have no idea about. 

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Lord, we just praise you. 
We pray that you speak to us and

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through us in Jesus name I pray,
Amen, Amen. 

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All right, Deb, so I was telling
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conversation. 
We're just going to jump right 

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in. 
We're going to talk about what 

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God's done in your life, you 
know, what life looked like 

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without God. 
And so, yeah, start out like 

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tell us a little bit about 
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your childhood, and then we'll 
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OK, sounds good. 
So growing up my mom tried to do

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the best she could do with 
raising us. 

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My mother and father were 
separated and I think it really 

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put a toll on my life because I 
really didn't have no life going

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up with my dad. 
And it really the tragedy really

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started when I was 8 and my mom 
would work a lot and she woke me

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back up. 
She's done got remarried and she

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would work a lot and she'd party
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would stay with my step uncle 
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They would babysit us a lot. 
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like my identity was torn. 
He started doing things to me 

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that shouldn't be done to a 
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And I perceived to talk to my 
Mama one day. 

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I'll never forget it. 
I was sitting in the car, I was 

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in the back seat and I said I 
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doing and she didn't believe me.
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that off it, it did something to
me on the inside. 

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I think in my trust ended there 
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that's where my trust issue came
because the one person I felt 

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like that was protect me didn't 
believe of me being hurt. 

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So it just spiraled on into over
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13 and I decided to go to my 
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So even after you told your mom,
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your uncle and stuff? 
Oh wow, yeah. 

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And so I can see. 
Where that is hard, you know, 

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cuz you confide into someone 
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you know, and then you're still 
sent to that same space. 

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Did he know that you had told? 
No, no, OK. 

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Well, thank God. 
What a blessing. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Because it could have probably 
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if he would have known that you 
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Yeah. 
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didn't realize it till now about
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I want to help protect a woman 
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She would sleep in the same bed 
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to sleep on the outside the bed.
I'd put her against the wall so 

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I knew he wouldn't touch her. 
It's like I don't know. 

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It's like mystery teaches us 
that we're already, we'll Start 

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learning through childhood how 
God is preparing us for what 

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he's calling us to do. 
So anyway, that just spiraled on

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and I went to my dad's at the 
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He lived in Memphis, TN and I 
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hated school. 
I'd go to school and once would 

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make fun of me at school because
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inside. 
I made bad grades and it was 

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just I thought about so much 
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couldn't comprehend at school. 
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met a older man, and what did I 
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I needed him to save me. 
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How old are you at this point? 
13 wow yes and I wasn't pregnant

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or anything I was just looking 
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So how old was he? 
20220 Wow yes. 

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And now you look back and you're
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Yes, yeah. 
No, it's just crazy. 

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But I wasn't thinking anything 
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And so, yeah, I got married and 
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and I had my son at the age of 
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But during this period of time, 
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I mean, he would he would drink 
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front of the kids. 
The kids saw a lot, but I mean, 

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I have to say I was a good mom, 
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on to be in that. 
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be a mom. 
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So young. 
I mean, you're young, yeah, you 

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know. 
And so at the age of 18, I had a

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girlfriend that lived down the 
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She come up to me and she said I
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If you try it, he won't ever 
touch you again. 

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I'm like, what in the world 
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And at that time it was called 
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And little did I know, I tried 
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him, but it took me away from 
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Yeah. 
And that was the beginning of my

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mess. 
And so it just spiraled into one

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big thing after another. 
And I left him, but I left my 

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kids there also. 
Did OK, so you said like you 

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tried ice and that's meth, 
right? 

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OK, so you tried that like you 
didn't start out. 

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Were you drinking and stuff? 
No, you just jumped fours like 

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because a lot of the times we 
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you start drinking and then 
you'll go to weed and then like 

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it just is a gateway into more. 
But with you, like you just 

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jumped right into hard drugs, 
chemicals. 

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Yep, Yep. 
And it just took me for a 

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tailspin for almost 20 years, 
you know, 20 years of, of, of a 

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lot of destruction. 
And I don't want to want to go 

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into all that because there was 
so much of it that, that taking 

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place that I don't even know 
where to begin in that part. 

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It was just, I just know it was 
a lot of mess, a lot of 

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heartache and pain and not being
the mom I should have been to my

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kids, you know? 
So yeah, that's pretty much a 

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lot of the addiction part of. 
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So, so you are, you know, you 
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life, you leave your kids with 
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And how long were y'all married 
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And so he did he have the kids 
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No, he had them for a good 
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went home to stay with my mom 
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Yeah, I'd finally, he got a hold
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staying at, and he took me to a 
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And pretty much he had told me 
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people and beat me pretty badly.
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find a way to get back to my mom
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And so I was 25 and I was able 
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Well, when I still got back to 
Georgia, I was still in my mess 

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trying to find where I could 
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didn't gotten a strong addiction
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Mama. 
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And it just kept spiraling out 
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Oh, wow. 
Now while you're in this 

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darkness, you're basically 
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How? 
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sold you to people. 
He told me he. 

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Told you, but he did it. 
No, like, OK, that was kind of 

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just like that mental. 
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Yeah. 
So what what exactly, like, 

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happens after that? 
Like you're just living in the 

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darkness and you're just fully 
just dead inside. 

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Or yeah, yeah. 
And so to just hanging out with,

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going with random people of 
hanging out in different areas 

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that I had no business hanging 
out with, you know, and I will 

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say this, I got involved with 
some people that it was pretty a

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dangerous ride and I was very 
stubborn, hard headed and a lot 

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of law enforcement was involved 
in partake with it. 

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And at that time I was really 
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But I come to learn that I want 
to start helping people from the

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mess that I've caused myself to 
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And so I had gotten involved 
with different agencies and of 

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trying to help, to get people 
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that was in the mess that I was 
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And I would tell the law 
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them in different situations 
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I'd go into dangerous areas, not
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I just want to go in there to 
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But little did I know I was 
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then not even caring about my 
kids, you know, I jumped over in

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this other total different life 
and left my kids not even caring

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of what they was going through 
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the mom I needed to be. 
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wish I'd hit my head and and 
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like I had a triple life going 
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You know, I was in this marriage
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then not being the mom I need to
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in the drug world. 
And it was just a crazy thing at

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times of very scared. 
It was it was so much scared 

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that when I'd go to my family's 
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because they knew the stuff I 
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Oh, wow, yes. 
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on because they didn't want 
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home. 
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vicious cycle of of mess. 
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wanted to help. 
I wanted to save people from 

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what I'd gone through. 
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the ends of anything to use my 
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And I knew I couldn't become an 
actual full agent because I was 

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an addiction, you know, looking 
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But I wanted it badly. 
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But I'm just grateful today as 
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I will go into that of what 
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Yes, I know then, even in my 
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help others from what I'd gone 
through and just a vicious cycle

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of starting from the age 8, of 
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from where I've come from, that 
I want to be that person that 

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somebody could trust to help one
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Yeah. 
You know, you, you said that 

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Mystery makes a comment about 
like when your kids like he goes

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ahead and starts preparing you 
for something that you're called

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to. 
And then you said that. 

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And it kind of like, because 
I've, I've said this on the 

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podcast and I honestly say it a 
good bit, like I don't remember 

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a whole lot of my childhood. 
Like not that it was like such a

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bad childhood that like I'm 
blocking out memories. 

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Like I really genuinely don't 
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I don't know why I don't have 
those memories. 

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God could be protecting me from 
things, you know, but I just 

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like thought about something. 
It was and, and I remember, you 

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know, having always going to 
like celebrate recoveries and 

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you know, the serenity prayer 
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types of groups. 
And I remember hearing about an 

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Al Anon group for the first time
when I was a kid and I was like,

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man, I would love to do that. 
Like I would love to be in an Al

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Anon group, but like be a leader
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Never been in one, you know, 
never went to a kids group, you 

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know, of addicted parents or 
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But like, I remember that being 
a thought in my head. 

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And like, now I think back and 
I'm like, that is really what 

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I'm doing now, you know, Like 
I'm trying to show testimonies 

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and bring people on here to show
what God's done in their life. 

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And that was a thought that I 
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Yeah. 
It's pretty well it is. 

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I've never and I remember 
thinking, you know, like where 

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did this come from? 
And people ask me all the time, 

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like where like one of the girls
asked me this morning, Caprice, 

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she said, why don't you start a 
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I'm like, I don't know. 
God placed it on my heart and it

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just spirals, you know? 
So yeah. 

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So when you're in this, you 
know, you said your kids are 

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with your mom. 
I've already said that. 

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But do you have a relationship 
with them? 

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Do they talk to you? 
You know, like y'all do have a 

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good relationship even though 
you're in and out? 

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Oh, OK, good. 
In 2019, I come across this 

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place on Google and I was like, 
OK, I'll go try it out because I

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have tried several. 
And I'd get in there and maybe 

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30 days and I think I had it and
then I would leave. 

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Well, I didn't know. 
As I've learned here, I wasn't 

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discipled. 
I knew I wanted to change. 

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I wanted the better. 
I just didn't know how. 

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And so when I finally found this
place, I was like, where has 

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this place been? 
You know, here I am 44 years old

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and I finally found what I've 
needed the whole time. 

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And so anyway I found it in 
2019, I'd gotten to the Potter's

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house and 30 and I hadn't been 
there 30 days and I was told my 

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mother had passed away. 
And so I left and my daughter 

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wanted me to stay with her cuz 
she commits to thinking that she

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didn't want to lose me. 
But little did she know that she

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was going to anyway cuz I hadn't
gotten the healing that I 

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needed. 
So I stayed out for six months 

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and just a vicious cycle again 
and met some people almost died 

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and I called Miss Shree and she 
allowed me to come back. 

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Well, I come back and I've been 
there for three years plus I 

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think 3 1/2 and I become the 
house mom and on fire for the 

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Lord. 
I mean just loving the Lord and 

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just super on fire for him. 
Excited how he spoke to me and 

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here I go getting on Facebook 
and thinking once again that 

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man, yeah, you know, a guy come 
across on my page and went to 

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telling me that he's been sober 
for two years. 

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And I've known this guy for all 
the for about a good maybe 23 

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years in my life. 
And we were just friends and I 

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was thinking, well, OK, maybe 
it's time for me to get that 

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relationship that my heart heart
does desire to have. 

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One day. 
He went to telling me that his 

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mom, his mom all had passed away
the same time Mama did. 

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He'd been clean two years. 
And I'm thinking OK. 

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Wow, that's a lot in common. 
Right, so I'm thinking, OK, 

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here's my God, man. 
Yeah, Well, I'd go down to the 

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prayer room and I'd come up and 
he gave me a verse. 

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When I come up, I'll never 
forget it was Psalms 43 and it 

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says I'm giving you a new song. 
And so be young in faith and 

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just learning about on this side
of Christ. 

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I'm thinking God's telling me 
he's my new song. 

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Well, I go being sacred behind 
my leaders back and trying to 

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get down there on the weekends 
to to see him not knowing that's

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right there .1 that's wrong. 
And so it just spiraled over. 

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And then I went to tell him that
I was fixing to leave, that God 

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then gave me a God man. 
Well, here I am stepping out of 

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God's will and I leave and I get
down there with this guy and had

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it been two weeks? 
And he says, why don't you go to

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your sister's house for a minute
and drop me off here. 

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I'm thinking, no, yeah, there's 
nobody talking to me anymore. 

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I've done left everything that 
God's placed in my life once 

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again or this guy. 
And you know, you just get this 

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feeling on the inside. 
I'm like, Oh my God, he's about 

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to do something. 
Well, he was still in addiction 

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and I right then I was like, 
it's over. 

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I've done it, I've done it once 
again, I'm a failure. 

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Here we go again. 
And so I tried to stay sober. 

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What time I was there, I knew I 
didn't want to call anybody else

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super embarrassed. 
That went like maybe six months.

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No, I'd say 5. 
And I used, that's when I 

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learned about fentanyl and I've 
never experienced that before. 

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And well, when that took place, 
we was out of town. 

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I got a phone call and was told 
that my son had just been in a 

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tragic car accident. 
And it's still kind of hard to 

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talk about. 
But anyway, that took place. 

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And then after that, I felt like
I deserved to die. 

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So I lived in my car for a year.
I mean, I literally saw demons 

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everywhere. 
It was like a spiritual battle. 

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I even saw the picture of the 
devil on my windshield. 

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And we'd go fishing. 
I mean, snakes would literally 

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fall out of the trees. 
And that's not just saying, oh, 

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being high of seeing things, 
This stuff was literally taking 

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place. 
I mean, I was being tortured and

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I didn't realize until I got on 
the side. 

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You know, it says if you sweep 
your house clean and you go back

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in that mess, there's seven more
coming after you. 

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And so by the grace of God, I 
was out in my car one day and I 

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was laying there and just sweat 
and bugs was eating on me and I 

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was like, I can't do this 
anymore. 

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Miss Lisa had been talking to me
back up. 

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Miss Lisa had been talking to me
periodically three times of 

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asking me when are you coming 
home? 

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And I'm like, oh Lord, I get to 
go back. 

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And he would show me signs as so
much as being at a store in the 

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middle of nowhere. 
And I'm going to get a drink out

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of the machine and I hear girls 
saying Miss Deborah, Miss 

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Deborah. 
I'm like, Oh my gosh, somebody's

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fixing to see me from the 
Potter's house and I have a 

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mess. 
I was so embarrassed, but God 

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was trying to lead me back. 
But let me go back to say I was 

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in my car and I just said I 
couldn't take it no more. 

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The guy was still in the front 
seat looking for his mess, 

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thinking I didn't stole his 
stuff. 

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I'm over here about to die in 
the front seat, just hadn't 

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eaten in days. 
And I said I got to get a phone.

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But I got to a phone and just so
happened that all my sisters was

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in the same spot together. 
Oh wow. 

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And my one sister that I was 
always afraid to ask anything. 

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No one. 
She would, but I was just 

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embarrassed because of my mess. 
She said, if you're truly 

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serious this time, I'll get you 
the money to get you back to the

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Potter's house within 30 
minutes. 

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OK, so my car, I had to get a 
guy to bring a gas can to my car

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to give me $5 worth of gas to 
make it to the gas station. 

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And then when I got to the gas 
station to meet her, I was no 

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farther than maybe from the 
house to the church from the gas

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station and ran out of gas. 
Then my sister had to go to her 

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house to get a gas can again to 
help me get gas to make it back 

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to the Potter's house. 
But when I got in my car and 

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finally got gassed up on the 
Interstate, I felt like so much,

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so much freedom. 
You know, I had a cigarette 

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light. 
I didn't want a cigarette. 

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I threw that thing out the 
window. 

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I was like, I'm just excited to 
be getting back. 

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And so I've gotten back going on
over my three years and it's 

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been the most amazing life. 
It's like this morning I got in 

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Psalms 43. 
I've given you a new song. 

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Yes, but before it says I pulled
you out the muck and mire. 

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And my new song is what we're 
doing now is able to tell what 

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I'd gone through once again, 
because there's ones that has 

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gone back out. 
But thank God we made it back. 

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And I feel like God's using me 
now to help the ones that's 

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that's come in and also the ones
that's had to go back out to not

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beat yourself up of having to go
back out. 

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But he's giving you a new song 
to to tell the ones there is 

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hope, you know, that you it does
happen. 

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But I'm just very grateful today
he's allowed me to be a teacher 

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that I never thought I would be.
I'm like when he called me to do

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that for these girls and Srini 
told me I was going to do and 

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I'm like, there's no way. 
I mean. 

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And once again, where I was 
little, I remember I used to put

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papers on the bed and I would 
pretend they was kids in that 

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room and I'd be talking to the 
paper. 

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Being a teacher. 
And so I'm like, but it's been 

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amazing because how I'm able to 
teach is each day, whatever I go

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through, I'm able able to give 
it to them. 

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And I really been trying to for 
well, I don't God uses me to try

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to get to the root of the 
problem. 

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And it's from their childhood. 
And I've learned that when the 

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teacher had come to me, I'll 
never forget Miss B, She said, 

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well, we want to go into to the 
root and to what took place. 

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And she said, it's on 
forgiveness. 

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You're going to write your mom a
letter and then I want you to 

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read it to me pretending that 
I'm her and we're going to get 

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that mess out and you're going 
to be able to help others with 

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it. 
I'm thinking what in the world 

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is lady talking about? 
She is crazy. 

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This is not going to help. 
But it took me 3 days to write 

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that letter. 
And then when I've done it, it's

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like I forgive my Mama, you 
know, I don't have her freeing. 

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Yes. 
It's like I don't have her here 

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today. 
But I'm so free from that 

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because you know how many years 
I used that and I blamed her for

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my mess from that. 
And it's just like a freedom. 

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And so now, just like I said, 
I'm able to help teach the girls

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what God uses me to teach them 
from that what I've gone 

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through. 
And it's been such a, a big 

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blessing. 
And, and I'm very grateful for 

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my leaders. 
They've helped me become the 

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woman that I'm becoming today. 
And it's just such a blessing. 

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And I'm very grateful for God 
has me and the ones he is 

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placing in my lives so much as 
you and your mom. 

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I'm very blessed to have just 
like I said this morning, it was

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just a blessing of what I what I
went through yesterday of the 

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feeling with my son, just how 
God's brought you here from 

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yesterday of me having the pain 
from him and then used so much 

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and want to take us to eat. 
I had to stop thinking about 

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being and thinking about going 
to eat. 

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And then this morning I went in 
my moment of crying about him. 

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And then you open my door. 
You're just such a huge blessing

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to it. 
Like I'm just very grateful for 

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today and everything that's 
taking place in my life and. 

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So like this is one thing that 
when you were just talking 

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about, you know, how you were 
here and you're on fire and then

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you left and you went into the 
world and, and then, you know, 

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God still brought you back. 
You know, he doesn't always do 

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that sometimes when you're so 
disobedient or something. 

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Mystery actually talked about 
this yesterday and we were just 

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talking about being lukewarm and
somebody brought up, you know, 

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something about a lamb. 
And like when they wander off, 

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you know, he always he'll go 
after the he'll leave the 99 to 

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go after the one. 
Yes, but he punishes the one by 

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breaking their legs and then he 
has to wear this the the lamb 

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around his, you know, neck until
the legs heal. 

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And then once they're healed and
you most of the time they don't 

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leave again because they're so 
used to the master at that 

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point, you know, like they've 
they've learned their lesson, 

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whatever. 
But if they leave again, then he

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will kill them. 
And that just kind of, it's a 

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little morbid, but it's the 
truth. 

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I did not know that until 
yesterday because I've heard, 

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like, people say, like, God, I 
was so scared that God would 

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take his hand off me. 
You know, like, I know for a 

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fact my mom has said, like, she 
knows that if she were to go 

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back out, then he would take her
life. 

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Yeah. 
It's safer. 

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And I always wondered like, how 
do you know that? 

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And she and now after I heard 
mystery teach that yesterday, 

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I'm like, she knows like you 
just like you, you know, and 

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it's just such a blessing that 
that he, he's a forgiving God. 

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You know, he's he has grace and 
he let you come back. 

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But just knowing him on the 
personal level that y'all know 

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him today, you know you wouldn't
you wouldn't want to live a life

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without Jesus because you've 
seen the goodness and what all 

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he's done. 
And so oh man, I just love 

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coming here because every time I
come here, I feel like there 

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really is no distractions. 
Like you just walk in and you 

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feel the presence of God in this
home. 

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And just like you say in me 
being here for you too, like you

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feel like I've helped you, you 
know, do things and it's just 

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God just puts people in our 
lives. 

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You know that just, we mean what
is something that God has just 

440
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,280
shown you or taught you or just 
what was something that you've 

441
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,120
been studying, I guess. 
Well, too, I was thinking what 

442
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,960
time you were talking. 
I remember I would go back a 

443
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,840
minute. 
When I came back, I had to live 

444
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,160
with Mystery at her house for 
almost a year. 

445
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:39,720
And that time I stayed there. 
I just stayed in my word. 

446
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,360
And I was like, God, please 
speak to me again. 

447
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:43,320
Please speak to me again. 
I know you're mad at me. 

448
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,840
And I remember asking Pastor DRI
text him. 

449
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,000
I said, what should I read? 
He said, read the book of James.

450
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,680
I'm like, oh gosh, OK, I'm 
pissing to learn about myself. 

451
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,120
And so for a year almost, it's 
like I was getting in trouble by

452
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:59,080
the Lord. 
He would tell me things I was 

453
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,200
getting in trouble for where I 
was disobedient at. 

454
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,600
And then finally he had told me 
it'd been a year in August and 

455
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,400
I've got it underlined in my 
Bible where he's told me. 

456
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,200
I think it was First Corinthians
10/8. 

457
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,160
He says go back and do what I 
had you to do a year ago and 

458
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,920
I've been back a year and he was
letting me know he was fixing to

459
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,120
place me back into doing what he
had me to do. 

460
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,000
But I had to go through, like 
you said, periodically a period 

461
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,360
of time of me learning of where 
I did go wrong. 

462
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:30,960
But what I did say, he was still
speaking to me. 

463
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:37,720
And so here lately he's been 
teaching me about within myself 

464
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,880
of you can do all these works 
that I've had you having you to 

465
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,360
do, but I want to fix you on the
inside. 

466
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,280
And my biggest thing was my 
heart. 

467
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,960
I want to speak on this too, of 
where you're saying how we know 

468
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,320
that we don't have another shot.
So he kept giving me scripture 

469
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,280
on heart, heart. 
And I'm thinking, oh, my gosh. 

470
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,480
OK, well, one day still my 
heart's desire, you know, of one

471
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,880
day of, of this fairy tale life,
which I know to be that he's 

472
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,280
going to get to me one day, but 
he's got to fix me first. 

473
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,120
Yeah. 
And so my heart had been hurting

474
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,120
and I'd went to the I said, OK, 
I'll go to the doctor. 

475
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,920
So I'd went to the doctor and 
I've come to find out that I'm 

476
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,160
like a little point something 
away from congestive heart 

477
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,360
failure. 
Wow. 

478
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,120
But some people could take that 
and run with it and go Oh my 

479
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,560
God, Oh my God. 
But what I took it as you don't 

480
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,680
got no more chances because see,
my mom was went into a full 

481
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,840
blown addiction too. 
But she had been sober nine 

482
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,040
years when my dad passed away. 
Oh wow. 

483
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,440
And so I didn't get to tell that
part either. 

484
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,520
But anyway, she went back out 
one time and when she did it 

485
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,360
that one time, it hit her heart,
heart attack. 

486
00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:54,680
And so where my mind went as it 
did for mom, I was like, you 

487
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,520
don't got no more chances. 
You better get in here and do 

488
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040
this thing. 
Luckily that God allowed me to 

489
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,760
come back. 
He didn't take me on home in 

490
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,640
that mess that I got to given 
another opportunity to do his 

491
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600
work. 
So to say that that's what he's 

492
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,440
really been dealing with me on 
lately of of helping me on my 

493
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:18,080
inside of my heart because I was
easy too quick to to fall into 

494
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,240
any little thing. 
My heart gets touched one way. 

495
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,320
I'm like, oh, OK, yeah. 
But he's really been 

496
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,480
strengthened me on that part. 
And I've come to learn that if 

497
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,680
it is to be one day of of that 
man coming into my life, you 

498
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,880
know, I don't got a list written
out. 

499
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,520
All the things I gotta check, 
yes. 

500
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,920
And I don't want to. 
I mean, I may joke about it at 

501
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,680
times about that taking place in
my life one day, but I truly 

502
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:50,960
want it if it's to be to be 
right and and for God to be 

503
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,040
first and foremost with it, you 
know, and it'll lie in every 

504
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,400
which way that you know. 
It just scared me this that this

505
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,600
last time and then losing my son
too. 

506
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,360
That song Mary did you know, I 
know it's about what Jesus done 

507
00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:12,240
for us, but also know that God 
used him Jesus to to save us. 

508
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,080
And with me having the death of 
my son, it's really changed me 

509
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,880
to where God used him to to. 
I don't want to walk in that 

510
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,480
anymore of losing another person
in my life and me being in my 

511
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,600
mess because I tormented myself 
too. 

512
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,120
When I come back and I beat 
myself up so much of where I 

513
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,720
blame myself for his death 
because I know the power of 

514
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,200
prayer and I see the covenant 
that God places on us with our 

515
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,240
children and our family and that
as long as you're doing it, his 

516
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,560
will will do everything I've 
seen it done. 

517
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,160
And I feel like when I stepped 
out of his will, that got that's

518
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920
where I went knowing not to be 
true, but that's where my mind 

519
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,480
went that he just took his hands
off everything. 

520
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,440
And so it scared me. 
And so I don't know, I'm just 

521
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,040
very grateful today and he's 
really been teaching me a lot in

522
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,400
areas of of wisdom that I didn't
grab a hold the first time I was

523
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,400
here. 
And I just want to help others 

524
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,600
with that things that he's doing
in my life now of I just want to

525
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,680
be sure that everything's in 
lines up with his heel and he's 

526
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:20,440
first and foremost and 
everything Even so much as of 

527
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,480
going somewhere, even going home
to visit my daughter and him. 

528
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,800
I didn't, I mean I just really 
get scared today in areas of not

529
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,160
wanting to mess up anymore of 
what God has in store for my 

530
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880
life. 
Well, you were talking about 

531
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,320
that, you know, he kept giving 
you things about your heart. 

532
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,000
And I remember when we were at 
the beach, you kept talking 

533
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520
about your heart. 
You know, you're like, he keeps 

534
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,920
giving me heart found like a 
seashell that's a representation

535
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,960
of a heart. 
Like it was just like heart, 

536
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,400
heart, heart, heart. 
And I've heard you over even the

537
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,880
last few months before you went 
to the doctor about your heart 

538
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,560
and you know, like if you 
weren't aligned with God and 

539
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,640
like you didn't, you didn't know
why he was giving that to you. 

540
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,040
But like, what if you, you know,
still wouldn't went to the 

541
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,640
doctor or anything like that? 
But you know, he was already 

542
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,080
giving you signs of that. 
Yes. 

543
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,200
And that's like being so aligned
with him, you can hear him, you 

544
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880
can see him, you have the 
spiritual eyes here, heart and 

545
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,720
ears to know when he's speaking.
And that is just it's so great. 

546
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,800
But when I think about like you 
and your daughter now y'all have

547
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,680
a great relationship. 
I mean, I'll call and you're 

548
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,400
like, I'm on the phone. 
My daughter, I got to go like, 

549
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,760
or I'll call you back later like
you know, or something or like 

550
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,600
in the mornings, y'all talk 
every morning. 

551
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,680
Yes wow y'all had that 
relationship of your in and out 

552
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,320
but now it's like restored. 
Yeah, and God, he's just forming

553
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,840
back in the sweetest way and the
number one thing I'm trying to 

554
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,040
help her with today that I'm 
very blessed on this 

555
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,280
relationship is helping her with
the loss of her brother. 

556
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,440
Yes, she's it's really been 
taking it super hard. 

557
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:57,560
And so the peace that surpasses 
all understanding that no one 

558
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,640
can give but God. 
I've I've been learning that 

559
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,200
with the Lord of losing Eddie, 
like I'll go through certain 

560
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,120
things so much as you. 
He just does things to me when 

561
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,840
I'm, I'm having a moment about 
Eddie and got to come along and 

562
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,920
he'll do something. 
I'm truly been trying to want to

563
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:18,800
work on that of helping Nicole 
because it's like I felt like I 

564
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
thought that she needed me when 
she was younger, which she did. 

565
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,160
But all my mess, I've gone 
through that today since she's 

566
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,480
gotten older, there's things 
that she's going through that 

567
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,560
I'm just so grateful that I'm 
the one that's able to help her 

568
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:38,080
so much As she went into alcohol
of drinking and I was like, oh 

569
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,960
gosh, you know, I didn't know 
how God was going to use me to 

570
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,520
help her in areas without going 
and saying. 

571
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Don't do this, I know. 
Don't do that. 

572
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,200
You know you can't do that, you 
know, because she definitely 

573
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,160
ain't gonna listen to me because
of where I've come from. 

574
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,200
And then too, I can't go in 
there telling her that because I

575
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,120
knew how I was, I wouldn't 
listen. 

576
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,680
Nobody tell me what I better do.
So I'll never forget this part 

577
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,600
of she knows that I'll ask for a
book in the Bible and give me a 

578
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,360
number and it God would always 
speak to me. 

579
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,960
Well, one day she's randomly 
said, let's do Eddie's birthday,

580
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,480
Mama, let's do let's pick his 
date and do his birthday. 

581
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,200
I said, OK, well then let's do 
it. 

582
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,440
And it was in Samuel. 
I'll never forget it. 

583
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560
I think it was Samuel 214. 
Anyway, he says, you sluggard, 

584
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,840
how long are you going to drink 
that wine? 

585
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:32,800
Well, yeah, she'd been drinking 
and it was like, OK, Mom, I got 

586
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,240
to go. 
I was like, OK, I'll talk to you

587
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,280
later. 
And so, but the neatest part is 

588
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,520
to look at something that seems 
so bad that God was already 

589
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,280
orchestrating us. 
She was learning how to hear 

590
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,920
from the Lord. 
And then I didn't beat her down 

591
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,280
by what she was doing. 
You know, I wanted to help her 

592
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,560
because I knew that where I'd 
come from, the same mentalities,

593
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,680
the things she was going through
that I really wanted to help her

594
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,880
with that without trying to look
like I was trying to beat her 

595
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,600
down. 
It was just the neatest way. 

596
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,080
That's how our relationships 
really has been starting is 

597
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,240
really actually with that. 
And so and then two things with 

598
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,640
her brother. 
I'll never forget. 

599
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,360
She was mad with me one day. 
I was going down the road with 

600
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,680
mystery. 
I wish I had it with me. 

601
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,160
I should have had it with me to 
show you. 

602
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,360
And I kept taking pictures of 
the clouds and there's a piece 

603
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040
of rainbow in there and I'm too.
I love the rainbow. 

604
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,600
And I couldn't stop taking it. 
And so Miss Shree was talking to

605
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,520
me and at all times I wasn't 
listening to her. 

606
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,840
And I always listen to 
everything she tells me, but I 

607
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,920
wouldn't listen to her that day.
I couldn't stop taking the 

608
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,040
pictures. 
And so I had pulled it down and 

609
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,200
it was a weird shape of a face 
like that. 

610
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,920
And I was like, that is the 
craziest looking cloud I've ever

611
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,160
saw. 
But you could actually see the 

612
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,240
two eyes, the nose and the mouth
wide open. 

613
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,480
And I was like, I'm going to 
send this to my daughter. 

614
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,320
And so I sent it to her and she 
said, who took this picture? 

615
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,880
I said I did. 
Why? 

616
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,360
She said, I'm going to show you 
what got sent to me this morning

617
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,560
off Facebook. 
And it was her brother, that 

618
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,440
same face. 
Yes, it actually looked like his

619
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,480
face in the clouds. 
And so God has been holding us 

620
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,000
back together. 
He's been doing it in the most 

621
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,120
sweetest way. 
And so it's also been getting 

622
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,040
her excited because she knows 
it's been the Lord doing it. 

623
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,360
And so she, I don't know, it's 
just been the sweetest 

624
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,280
relationship because now she'll 
dig in that blessing jar. 

625
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,239
I want to see what God tells her
or are saying, like picking the 

626
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,560
numbers of the book of the Bible
and then we get to share it. 

627
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,600
So. 
That is, that's one thing that I

628
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,199
think about, you know, too is 
like it comes up a lot when, you

629
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,840
know, we see someone in our life
that we care about so much and 

630
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,880
we want them to come on this 
side of Jesus so bad. 

631
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,800
We see that they're living in 
that darkness, but we don't know

632
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,280
how to address it. 
But just being a light being, 

633
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,920
being, you know, showing the 
love of Jesus more than anything

634
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,440
and not condemning them or 
beating it over their head. 

635
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Like you should know by my 
mistakes, you've seen what my 

636
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:02,160
life has been like, those things
like that's how you know, he got

637
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,840
my attention. 
This time is really my mom had 

638
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,640
told me for years, like she was 
concerned about my drinking. 

639
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,280
Like she did that for a while. 
And then this last time she's 

640
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,400
like, you know, I could, I knew 
she was just praying for it. 

641
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,880
You know, more than anything, 
she just never said anything. 

642
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,960
But she was just trying to be a 
light to me. 

643
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,200
And that made me interested that
how how did, how are you so in 

644
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,640
darkness? 
And now all of a sudden you're 

645
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,160
just like a whole different 
person. 

646
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,720
Like she was a light when she 
walked into a room and people 

647
00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:37,480
are drawn to her, you know, 
like, and so I started seeing 

648
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,800
that in the same thing with your
daughter. 

649
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,200
She saw the light in you and she
was like, well, I'm a little 

650
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,960
interested. 
Let's you know, it's just good 

651
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,440
because that's one of the common
things that I've heard in these 

652
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,840
testimonies is like when someone
has lived without Jesus and then

653
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,040
they come to know Jesus, it's 
always someone that has been a 

654
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,840
light to them that made them 
intrigued. 

655
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,800
Like how did you get that? 
How did you come out of that? 

656
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,920
But that's good. 
I'm so happy for you and your 

657
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,720
daughter. 
Yes, that is amazing. 

658
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,840
Yeah. 
So like, tell us a little bit 

659
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,600
about being a house mom and 
like, what y'all's day-to-day 

660
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440
maybe looks like here and what, 
what what are y'all pouring 

661
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,800
into? 
Like, what? 

662
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,240
How do y'all go about it 
basically? 

663
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,960
OK, well, we start. 
We get up at 5:45 every morning 

664
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,440
and the girls get an hour of 
quiet time with the Lord. 

665
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,440
And like I, I've been taught 
that that's the most very 

666
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,200
important time of the morning is
to get that hour with the Lord, 

667
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,360
to let him start our day because
it is a house full of women and 

668
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,680
a lot of personalities and a lot
of feelings and emotion goes on.

669
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,120
So it's a neat thing to watch 
how we put him first and how he 

670
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,920
just moves in his house in the 
most peaceful, sweetest way. 

671
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,800
And then we're, like you had 
said, in devotion time where you

672
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,600
don't realize how God's speaking
to his sister in the same way. 

673
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,400
And I must give him the same 
thing. 

674
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,200
And so it's neat to watch the 
excitement when they learn God 

675
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,360
speaks to him. 
I mean, Lily run to the house 

676
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,040
shouting. 
And so, yeah, it's just neat to 

677
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,080
watch when they come in from the
darkness that I didn't realize 

678
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,840
they saw within myself when I 
come in. 

679
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,640
And when your light gets turned 
on, yeah, you start realizing 

680
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,000
that God speaks to you. 
And then you realize that's the 

681
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,360
best high in the world of 
knowing that how he talks to 

682
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:16,800
you. 
Yeah. 

683
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,280
You know. 
That's that's I said this with 

684
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Miss Cherie yesterday. 
I'm like, once you feel God's 

685
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,800
presence and you hear his voice,
that's something that you crave 

686
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,080
more than. 
Anything. 

687
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,720
Like you really, and I said this
too, but you can't explain it to

688
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:35,360
anyone. 
You can't explain the feeling 

689
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,680
that you had, what you felt 
like. 

690
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640
You can't, no one will 
understand until they 

691
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,040
experienced it themselves. 
But then that's something that 

692
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,760
you know is like a high, you 
know, like it's like you're 

693
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,680
seeking him constantly, like and
you're looking for him 

694
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
everywhere because you want to 
be in his presence again. 

695
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,200
And if you don't know that you 
were, if you've been in his 

696
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,840
presence, then you haven't like 
you know, really, because you 

697
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,840
know without a shadow of a 
doubt, like you will feel an 

698
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,320
overwhelming feeling of that was
God, yes. 

699
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,080
Yes. 
Yes, I didn't mean to cut you 

700
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:09,800
off. 
No, it's OK. 

701
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,320
And it's like Maslisa said too. 
When you come into the Potter's 

702
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,680
house and you Start learning 
that God speaks and you'll tell 

703
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,920
people about it and they'll look
at you like what he said. 

704
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,840
You don't know God's beats 
because he does, you know, and 

705
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,840
that's the sweetest thing about 
this program. 

706
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,080
It is a discipleship program. 
And so he'll give it to us so 

707
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,400
huge in here that when you go 
out that door, because you know,

708
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,400
we're really hard headed, the 
ones that comes in the door, 

709
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,120
super stubborn. 
That's what causes to get to the

710
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,880
mess that he'll give it to us. 
So big in here that when you go 

711
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,880
out the door, you gonna say no, 
I'm going to tell you what he's 

712
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,000
told me and what he showed me. 
And so that's the, that's, 

713
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,280
that's big to us in here because
it's like knowing that where 

714
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,400
we've come from, that the 
Almighty God speaks to us, that 

715
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,200
he's forgiven us. 
And what I've got, and I want to

716
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,760
tell you too, what I got this 
morning about the woman that he,

717
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,200
he told her to go, that her sins
had been forgiven. 

718
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,800
He had many sins, but her sins 
had been forgiven. 

719
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,080
She was how she worshipped him, 
knowing that where she come from

720
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080
and that he forgave her from 
what she had gone through. 

721
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,840
And then how he'd, how he speaks
to her is like I said, you know,

722
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,520
like that's our excitement that 
we get here of knowing how much 

723
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,760
God loves us and how much we're 
worth. 

724
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,800
And that's a lot of the lessons 
that we get here. 

725
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,720
You know, I'm sure he comes in 
and gives us the word and it's 

726
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:28,640
like Miss Lisa said, she teaches
it like no other. 

727
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,920
And when she teaches it, she 
believes it, you know, 

728
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,560
wholeheartedly. 
Oh yes. 

729
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440
And see, I told her like I was 
telling her this morning. 

730
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,160
And I'm sure you see the same. 
Learning the relationship with 

731
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,760
him first and foremost, 
absolutely. 

732
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,040
But when we learn, as I've 
learned from her, to ask him 

733
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,600
what to ask for. 
Yes. 

734
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,720
And I saw that myself, she said.
No, I'm going to ask him. 

735
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,560
I'm going to ask him because 
he'll tell her to to to ask me 

736
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,760
what do you want me to do for 
you? 

737
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Yes. 
And we could ask him several 

738
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,880
things and it'd go wrong. 
But when we ask him what to ask 

739
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,800
him for and he gives it to you. 
I don't know. 

740
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000
That's just been one of the 
biggest lessons that I've gotten

741
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,920
here, learning to hear him 
exactly how he wants things 

742
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,880
done, not ourselves. 
And then when you ask him, he'll

743
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,400
show you everything to AT Yep, 
you know. 

744
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,240
Because there are so many times 
that we will hear from God, but 

745
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:21,120
then we try to interpret it into
what we want. 

746
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,320
Yes, and that's why that 
leadership that I was telling 

747
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,000
about me quitting my job, but a 
lot of people knew I wanted to 

748
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,160
quit my job. 
They knew I wanted to go into 

749
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,720
full time ministry. 
And they're like, you know, but 

750
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,080
sometimes we do hear what God's 
saying, but we're going to try 

751
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,600
to manipulate it into what we 
want it to be like, what we 

752
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,120
think it's supposed to be. 
So yeah, you might have heard 

753
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,240
that. 
So then, too, when you sent me 

754
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,720
that rainbow, he was like, oh, 
that wasn't even clarification 

755
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,120
for me because I already knew 
without a shadow of a doubt, he 

756
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,960
had given it to me so many 
times. 

757
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,760
And that is one thing too, is 
like, just don't go off your 

758
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,000
feelings. 
You were talking about your 

759
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,640
heart and how used to you'd get 
a little feeling or you'd be and

760
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:05,840
you'd be like, oh, Yep, I've 
got. 

761
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,480
That's what I that's what I do. 
But now you seek even more. 

762
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,360
You go further trying to get 
more clarity. 

763
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,680
It's not just that, you know, 
thing. 

764
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,520
And then you're like, oh, yeah, 
my feeling. 

765
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,320
Yeah, I feel like that, you 
know, it goes into more. 

766
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,080
But yeah. 
But sure. 

767
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,280
He did talk about that about, 
you know, ask him what we should

768
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,600
be praying for. 
Ask him how to pray for what we 

769
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,000
need to be praying for. 
That is something that I've 

770
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,480
learned from her too. 
I love that. 

771
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,160
Yeah, yeah. 
But too, like Miss Lisa comes 

772
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,320
and gives her groups, you know, 
and we're constantly either into

773
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,720
a group or we go do fellowship 
at different churches. 

774
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:45,360
But yeah, it's basically seven 
months for Jesus. 

775
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,200
Yeah, because it's not really. 
Like it's not just drugs and 

776
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,800
alcohol. 
That ain't nothing to do with 

777
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,400
this program. 
No, we don't talk about that. 

778
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,360
We don't want to hear about 
that. 

779
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,840
We we want to hear about Jesus. 
Yeah. 

780
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,760
Like Miss Cherise says that if 
we was to come here and and stay

781
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,480
focused on the problem, we'd be 
like in defeat all the time. 

782
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,320
But like she said, when Jesus 
touches, you're healed, you 

783
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,080
know, So the only times we 
really pretty much talk on that 

784
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,600
stuff, it's like when we have to
speak to someone that may be 

785
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,200
struggling with that to let them
know there is. 

786
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,280
There's hope. 
We'll go ahead and start closing

787
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,400
out. 
Do you have anything that maybe 

788
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,760
you want to share? 
Maybe you, maybe God's revealed 

789
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,480
to you or something that's just 
heavy on your heart. 

790
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,320
Heart that you would like to 
say. 

791
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Now I'm just truly grateful and 
honored and you'd ever thought 

792
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,720
I'd be sitting here right now 
talking like I am about things 

793
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:37,200
that as I've gone through 
through life and to tell about 

794
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,240
Jesus, what he's done. 
And he is the first and foremost

795
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,440
and that's what life's about 
today is him. 

796
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,680
And so like I was telling 
mystery this morning, it may 

797
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,200
sound crazy, but that other 
world, you know, I'm just, I'm 

798
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,680
just want him to use me in all 
this world that needs to be 

799
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,440
done. 
So when I get on the other side,

800
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:55,800
Oh my goodness, what a day it's 
going to be. 

801
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,760
And I underlined it. 
Well done. 

802
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:07,320
No, that's great. 
Well, this has been awesome. 

803
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,080
I love getting to talk to you, 
but especially when we get to 

804
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,720
record it. 
I wish we could record all the 

805
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:14,600
conversations that go on because
it's just always. 

806
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,440
Pretty amazing, yes? 
Well guys, I hope you enjoyed it

807
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,600
as much as we did. 
Stay tuned, stay blessed, and 

808
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,400
we'll see you next week.
