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What's up, guys? 
My name's Alexis. 

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And I'm Abby. 
And we're your host with praises

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in the pod. 
We are so excited to be back in 

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the studio and just talking 
about all things loving people 

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where they're at and pouring 
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no matter what season or 
anything that's going on, just 

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being there for them. 
And so we're going to talk about

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that. 
So we're going to start off in 

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prayer and then we're going to 
jump right in. 

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So here we go Lord Heavenly 
Father, just thank you for all 

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that you have been doing in our 
lives. 

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Lord God, thank you for 
protecting us and just leading 

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and guiding us. 
Lord God, we pray that you speak

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to us and through US today and 
let this episode glorify you. 

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In Jesus name I pray. 
Amen. 

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Amen. 
Yeah. 

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So it's going to be a good 
topic. 

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You know what? 
I'm going to be totally 

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transparent with y'all. 
We were going to record our last

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episode and we got halfway 
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Abby's like and loving people 
where they're at. 

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And I was like, no, we're not. 
Where did that come from? 

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Well, yeah, she doesn't text 
back, y'all. 

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Yeah, she literally does not 
text back. 

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Yeah, I do. 
Like I just have so much else 

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sometimes going on and sometimes
I get mixed up what we're 

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talking about. 
And so I've prepared something 

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else and then we sit down and 
she's like, no, this is what 

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we're talking about. 
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Oh, because she didn't respond 
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talking about. 
So now we're like, you know 

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what? 
This is great. 

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We'll talk about this since 
she's already prepared and got 

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stuff and ready to go. 
So here we go. 

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Yeah, we're just going to see 
how it all that pans out. 

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And you know what, yesterday, to
be honest, we recorded an 

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episode yesterday too, but y'all
have already heard that episode 

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and it turned out so good. 
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about like idols in our live and
live strongholds and strongholds

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and stuff like that. 
So it turned out fantastic. 

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So now we're going to be talking
about loving others where 

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they're at. 
Yep, I mean, loving them through

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it almost goes with what we were
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love each other through our 
strongholds, even as Christ 

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followers and in the church. 
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important to, for the body of 
the church to stay one and stay 

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a whole unit because I mean, 
we're all Christ followers, but 

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we all still have those 
strongholds as we talked about, 

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and especially for those that 
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So it's, it's both. 
I mean, it's, it's everywhere. 

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It doesn't matter your follower,
you're not where you're at in 

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life. 
We just got to learn to love 

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each other where we're called to
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And what's so crazy is my verse 
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literally was like on point for 
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And it just hit me. 
So it was John 1512. 

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But and it's a command. 
So it says my command is love 

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each other as I have loved you. 
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And like, when you think about 
that, I mean, he's literally 

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giving us a command. 
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He's not just saying like, if 
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you can or is optional. 
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not optional. 
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Yeah, like it's right. 
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If it's convenient for you, if 
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feel good, do it. 
But no, this is a command 

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regardless. 
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And if you think about that, 
like that's heavy. 

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Like think about him saying as I
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So if you really think about how
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that I've ever been, and I got 
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encounter in my life. 
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actually thinking about that and
praying like he really, God is 

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just so selfless to really send 
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Like, could you fathom, like 
Sutton, you're going to have to 

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go die for everybody now? 
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so selfless. 
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him, you know, for that. 
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position of just gratitude. 
And I'm like, man, the love that

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he has to love us. 
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in that scripture is like, love 
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you. 
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think about it, what you, in the
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about, this has been since the 
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this plan that he's loved his 
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want us separated from him. 
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send his Son to take care of 
that separation and bring us in 

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wholeness with him through the 
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And when you think about it that
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truly does love, like his 
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He loves each and every one of 
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And so that's kind of this heavy
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like as it's sending your son, 
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everyone else's sin in the 
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And the reason reason that we're
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the one that took care of that 
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When I'm thinking about like 
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were talking about this in a few
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don't, I'm not very a nurturing 
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And I'm just like, it doesn't 
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like you're that you're that 
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Like God calls us to be those 
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everyone. 
So even if it's not something 

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you're strong at or something 
you're good at, it's still a 

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commandment of loving people, 
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And just being that light in 
someone's life, life like, no, I

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don't have to be a physical 
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and whatever, but I can still be
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you know? 
And I feel like with following 

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obedience and having the Spirit 
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run away from it. 
Like it's just going to 

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evidently happen. 
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Because that is his nature. 
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taking, taking over in your 
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And it's not by choice. 
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doing it through you. 
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this. 
So like it's something about 

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like other Christ followers, 
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Like you just jive most of the 
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living inside of them and you're
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There's so much common big 
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It's the same person living 
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And I don't know why, but I 
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was like, Oh my gosh, because 
sometimes we're like man, my 

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spirit, my spirit didn't sit 
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like that conversation or 
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It was going against what he 
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all this stuff. 
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situations of like gossiping or 
something, and you're like, you 

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know, like I shouldn't have said
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And like you feel nasty in that 
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And it's because Christ is 
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You and and that is against His 
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It's like your flesh inside of 
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of you at the same time. 
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like, I don't know who she heard
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cussing or like, drinking, 
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Christ lives inside of you, 
there's nowhere for him to go. 

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He doesn't want to be in those 
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He doesn't want to be smoking 
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whatever, but he's living inside
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So then you have that pool that 
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your life, in your mind and your
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feel. 
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It's his spirit against your 
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constantly have to put your 
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side. 
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I think following that 
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of command shrinks that flesh 
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even though you're not a a 
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He is. 
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So it's not about you. 
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And he will embody that through 
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And that's when people will 
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Yeah, that is. 
So but I found too the coolest 

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thing that the world has put in 
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treat others. 
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that I was reading of basically 
the word and what it says and 

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how to treat others and 
everything that we probably see 

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on a day-to-day basis out on 
social media that we've heard 

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others say to us. 
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conversation with them about, 
you know, an issue with somebody

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that we're having, Here's how 
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situation. 
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was like, this is some good 
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realize how trained almost we 
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treat others. 
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And not the word. 
Does that make sense? 

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So I'm going to read some of 
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talk about them. 
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live by your own truth. 
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kind of be like a satanic trend,
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what's right for you and your 
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Like how often do we hear that? 
Like you know, you're in control

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of your life. 
You make the best decision for 

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yourself, you do what's best for
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Like I've heard that my whole 
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Biblical, no. 
And like, you know the truth and

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what the warning was, was it 
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Truth is not relative. 
Truth is found in Jesus, in his 

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word. 
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you need in your life, you can't
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But we're trained that, yeah, 
that's what we're told from the 

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world. 
And I think that's what keeps so

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many people in such a confused 
state of mind and why they can't

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figure things out. 
Go ahead. 

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No, I was going to say because 
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with that and this might be 
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say, but like do what makes you 
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And it's like. 
No, because what makes me happy 

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is feeding my fleshly desires 
and it's going completely 

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against everything. 
Because there was another thing 

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that I read yesterday I want to 
say, and it was saying like, OK,

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alcohol and drugs and all that 
stuff, it, it makes you happy 

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for a split second. 
Like, so if I'm going to 

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continue living that life, it's 
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And it only makes you happy when
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You need to think of your 
eternal happiness or eternal 

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joy. 
And where do you find that with 

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Jesus Christ? 
That's the only way. 

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And so like that, do what makes 
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No, like do what glorifies God. 
I've seen that graph will make 

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you happy. 
Yes, absolutely. 

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Because I've never been more 
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Yeah, never. 
Or not even just happy. 

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Never been so joyful. 
Because happiness will come and 

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go, like sometimes, you know, 
But your joy will always be a 

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true joy. 
True peace comes with following 

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Jesus and doing what glorifies 
Him. 

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Right. 
And so, but I mean, it's just so

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embedded in US, I think, and 
things that we see out in the 

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world. 
This is why I like this. 

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Caught me so off guard and I 
thought it was so great and I 

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was like man I wrote down every 
little thing because it's just I

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remember even before giving my 
wife to Jesus thinking these 

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things would get me where I 
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It always just ended up in 
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What was another one? 
Yeah, so like our culture is 

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kind of like a cancel culture. 
So cancel them, expose them or 

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pay them back is definitely 
embedded in us when somebody 

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does something wrong to us. 
And this 100% goes with loving 

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people where they're at because 
they're not, we're not always 

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people have a sinful nature. 
We still even do. 

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We're not always going to do 
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time. 
I just can't be perfect, right? 

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But it's like we've been trained
or the world would say, you 

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know, to just cut them off. 
Yeah, right. 

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Like would be done with them, 
cancel and be done with them. 

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And so it's saying, you know, 
there's a warning to that. 

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We are called to love and 
overcome evil with good. 

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Vengeance belongs to God. 
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crazy to think that what we have
so stuck in our mind or what we 

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have grown up just learning is, 
is like completely has to be 

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relearned. 
Yeah, you know what I mean? 

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And completely we have to dive 
into what his spirit, what his 

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word calls us to do and how to 
love others and not just cancel 

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them. 
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certain situations where people 
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need to get away from people. 
That's a totally different, you 

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know, kind of subject. 
But because I do believe, you 

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know, safety, everything like 
that is first. 

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But just, you know, smaller 
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that, and not cancelling 
somebody just because of where 

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they are in their life and just 
loving them. 

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Through it. 
Well, you know, when I'm 

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thinking of that, you think that
tit for tat mentality. 

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And if we're going tit for tat, 
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God's not doing tit for tat. 
He's not tallying up all of 

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these numbers of the wrongs that
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Your debt's been forgetting, you
know, So if you're holding on to

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this bitterness of someone 
wronging you and doing these 

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things. 
Just like ask yourself again, 

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John 1512, love others as I have
loved you. 

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Did he love me like that? 
A tit for tat. 

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Did he put, you know, certain 
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No, he didn't. 
He came to the cross regardless 

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of anything that I it's not 
anything that I had to do or 

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standard I had to live up to. 
That's what he did regardless, 

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And so to get there and doing 
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Like that's going to be a work 
in progress for me because my 

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flesh wants me to love others 
when they're giving me. 

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When it's. 
Satisfying to me, and I still 

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struggle with that, is loving 
somebody regardless what they're

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giving me, what they're bringing
to my life. 

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They don't have to bring 
anything to my life. 

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They can, I need to walk with 
them through their troubles. 

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They might bring troubles to my 
life, but I have to love them 

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regardless. 
And that's hard to do. 

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Like we can sit up here and talk
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we're in that situation with 
somebody, like not giving up, 

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not quitting, going after it 
through prayer, going after it 

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through having Christ first, 
like it's hard. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
I mean, there is so many times 

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that you get caught up in 
they're not benefiting me, 

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they're not pouring into my 
life, they're. 

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Not in the world has like put in
our. 

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Head we think that every like 
our we, the world revolves 

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around us like truly. 
And it's like, Oh well, they're 

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not reaching out to me, so I 
ain't reaching out to them. 

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I'm not checking on them because
they ain't checking on me. 

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They didn't do this for me, you 
know, and so on. 

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I see that all day long. 
I literally see stuff all day 

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long where people are sharing 
stuff, saying, oh, this person, 

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I'm not going to put in to what 
they haven't put into me if I 

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haven't heard from them. 
You're not going to be a part of

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my life, this and that and 
putting up, you know, these 

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things that just kind of cancel 
culture. 

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You're cancelled. 
You're out of my life. 

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You didn't do what I expected. 
You didn't treat me like I 

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wanted. 
You didn't send as many text 

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messages throughout the year as 
I was wanting. 

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So you're cancelled. 
Girl, if we counted text 

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messages between me and you over
the years, like it would be 

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crazy because like there's just 
certain seasons of your life 

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where you don't talk every day, 
you don't talk once. 

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Everybody so much going on in 
your personal life where it's 

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like, don't expect people to 
just constantly be blowing up 

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your phone because I mean, you 
want, there's something we don't

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talk, you know what I'm saying? 
And it's just like, I know where

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we stand. 
I know I'm going to ride or if I

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get a call, oh, I'm going to go 
like, yes. 

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But there's just so many times 
that now it's like, what are 

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they doing for me? 
Oh, they're not. 

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So I'm done with them. 
Right. 

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Yeah. 
And so that was just something 

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that I thought was so good. 
Good because I see it all the 

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time. 
Yeah, that was really good. 

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Yeah, you got some more. 
I do. 

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Oh, wow. 
How many? 

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How many total are there? 
Four or five. 

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There's a good bit like 7. 
Oh OK, read a few. 

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Yeah, not all of them like 
towards the end really go, but I

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think this kind of goes. 
What we were just talking about 

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though was choosing who you 
help. 

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So only pour into people who 
pour into you. 

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Literally what we were just 
talking about. 

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But I'll give you kind of what 
it says about it. 

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It says the golden rules is 
clear do unto others. 

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Real love is always willing to 
give and without expecting 

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anything in return. 
So it's like we have to get to a

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point in time where, OK, this is
where I have to get to in my 

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mindset with Christ is I'm not 
reaching out to you and going 

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out of my way to bring 
satisfaction to your life. 

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I'm doing it out of my love for 
Christ. 

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That's the only reason. 
Whether or not you know, you 

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respond in the way I want or you
think I'm doing what's 

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satisfying to you or anything. 
I'm just like, Lord, I love you 

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and I want to hear well done, my
good and faithful servant at the

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end of this life. 
So I'm just, I'm going to pour 

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into that and that's why I'm 
doing this, not because I'm just

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trying to make somebody else 
happy. 

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Does that make sense? 
Yeah, that does. 

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That's good. 
What else? 

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You got something that's not the
same? 

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Yeah. 
What? 

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So like this one says, live 
short, do whatever feels good. 

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Yolo, you only live once, you 
know, and that really goes 

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against it because you 
technically you don't even 

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really live once because I will 
be living for eternity. 

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So it's like, if you're not 
doing what God calls us to do 

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now, what makes you think that 
you're going to be wanting to do

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it like after here's this is 
something that I heard one time 

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and who knows if it's biblical 
or not, OK? 

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But it's like, if you don't like
to praise and worship and cry 

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out to God and talk to him and 
be with him now you know that is

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all we're going to do in 
eternity is cry out to Him and 

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be holy, holy, holy, like, like 
truly. 

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Passionate. 
Passionate for him in in 

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forever, you know, so it's like,
why don't you want to do that 

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now when you know that's what 
you're going to be doing for all

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of the ends of the earth. 
You know what I'm saying? 

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Not even the ends of the earth, 
the ends of, and that's so hard 

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to comprehend to people, 
eternity because our brains 

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physically cannot comprehend, 
one, how big God is and two, how

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long eternity is. 
Like, it's just one of those 

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things that you really just 
can't fathom. 

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Because there's no ending. 
There's no ending. 

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No, none. 
You know, So when we're talking 

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about doing this topic, one of 
the things that I was thinking 

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about of loving people where 
they're at is like people living

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in sin and loving them through 
their sin, not approving of 

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their sin, but loving them of 
their sin. 

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And just maybe that's something 
we can kind of talk about a 

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little bit with. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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No, I mean when I when I'd 
gotten done with this, it kind 

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of helped me to see just how 
unhealthy everything is told us 

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to be towards others. 
And then get into the topic of 

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loving somebody, like where they
are and how to be a good 

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standard for them or a good just
view of how Christ would treat 

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them. 
How Christ does love them. 

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Because I think sometimes that's
the hardest thing for somebody 

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to living in sin is they have 
more than likely even us growing

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up we have had. 
Been let down so many times by 

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people on this earth. 
So it's hard for us to 

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comprehend and eternal love and 
a love that Christ has for us 

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and we can't grip that we can't 
almost accept it. 

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And that's why sometimes I think
it's so hard for some people to 

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accept Jesus Christ in their 
into their life is because they 

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are so correlated to what's 
happened to them in their 

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personal life with other people.
So it's like, if these people 

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have done this to me and this is
how well I've been treated, so 

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like, that's hard for me to 
believe that there's a Jesus out

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there that loves me like that. 
Yeah. 

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So, you know, go ahead, because 
that's how I just picture it 

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being. 
Yeah, I mean, that's what, 

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because there's one thing, 
because I heard this the other 

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day too, where I was talking to 
somebody and they're like, well,

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we all sin. 
So what? 

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What exactly is the defining 
moment of living in sin versus 

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just, you know, sin? 
And so living in sin, just to 

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clarify, would be like you're 
actively disobeying God. 

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You're actively choosing to live
a life that does not glorify God

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or, like, when you wake up and, 
you know, you're in this sinful 

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state, the sinful season, and 
you're just continuing to, like,

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let it consume you. 
So I never want people to be 

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like, oh, they're talking about 
living in sin. 

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Why aren't we all sinners, like,
all this? 

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And that's not what I'm trying 
to say. 

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Yeah. 
You know, I just want to 

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clarify. 
But, you know, when people are 

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living in sin, I think it's so 
important. 

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Like Kayla heal, she was talking
about her episodes called love 

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your neighbor and she's talking 
about when she was in a same sex

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attraction relationship and she 
was living that life. 

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She had this one guy just poor 
love. 

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His name was chief poured love 
into them like and spoke truth. 

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He never was like you're going 
to hell like XYZ. 

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Like he's like, you know, the 
Bible does say, you know that 

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this isn't right and the we 
shouldn't be living this. 

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This is for men and women, you 
know, all this stuff. 

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He just spoke truth and he was 
like, hey, how are y'all today? 

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Like y'all look so like he just 
went on about life in a loving 

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way instead of hateful. 
And that is what I want people 

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to see. 
Like when I come in contact with

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people that maybe they feel like
I'm going to condemn them or 

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whatever, they're like, I hope 
they walk away from that 

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conversation and they're like, 
man, she really just poured love

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and and truth into me. 
Not she did. 

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She was condemning me. 
You know, right, Yeah, we 

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there's a verse that took out to
me the other day and it was 

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worry weighs a person down and 
encouraging word cheers a person

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up. 
The godly give good advice to 

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their friends, the wicked lead 
them astray. 

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Proverbs 1225 S through 26 like 
that person was doing in their 

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life. 
He was not tearing them down. 

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He was giving them encouraging 
words, but through truth. 

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Yeah, right. 
And still loving them and it 

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made obviously it made a huge 
impact it. 

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Did because she still talks 
about it. 

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She was like, that is one of the
big pivotal moments of her life 

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is like one day they just want 
they both her and the 

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significant other or whatever. 
They went and talked to him and 

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was like, we feel very convicted
about this and that we think we 

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need to, we don't know what to 
do. 

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And like he just was like, 
here's Bibles or whatever. 

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Like I want y'all to dig in and 
start reading and just come back

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like it was reassessed, 
whatever. 

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They ended up splitting, 
becoming friends. 

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They were just like not like no 
more. 

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And then I mean, she's married 
with kids and everything else 

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now to a man, and she always 
talks about how big he was in 

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her life. 
Yeah. 

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Like, well, and let's just think
about compliment though I know 

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like truly to be somebody that 
planted that seed and to loved 

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it and watered it and everything
else. 

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Like absolutely true definition 
of what you're talking about 

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today, really and truly and 
walking with people because OK, 

450
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,560
let's think about Jesus and his 
life on this earth. 

451
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:10,920
What did he do? 
Yeah. 

452
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:16,320
He walked along side everyone 
that he came into contact with, 

453
00:24:18,360 --> 00:24:21,320
not necessarily the Pharisees, 
but that's like a whole nother 

454
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,320
level. 
When I think about it, Judas, 

455
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,480
yeah, like he knew without a 
shadow of a doubt that Judas was

456
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,400
going to portray him. 
And he still chose to wash his 

457
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,200
feet that night. 
And he still chose to love him 

458
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,080
and walk with him, because he 
already knew way back when, when

459
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,040
he first met him, when he first 
asked him to be his disciple. 

460
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,040
Because it was always not my 
will, but your will, father. 

461
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:46,720
So his focus was 100% always on 
his father. 

462
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,960
Yeah, it was never. 
And on the mission that he knew 

463
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,440
had his calling on his life. 
And so it's just that just 

464
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,360
clicked with me. 
It's like, wow, if that's where 

465
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,760
our mind is, where Jesus's mind 
was, it was on his father and 

466
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,040
his will for his life. 
What his calling was. 

467
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,360
He knew his calling from the day
he was born, what to do, what he

468
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:12,280
had to complete in his walk with
his Father, and everything else 

469
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,880
just fell in place the way it 
was supposed to. 

470
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,200
That's what we need to be doing.
Exactly, exactly did it it 

471
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,960
really just click for you did 
this yes, I can tell like you're

472
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,920
like and then I mean it just 
looked really I thought. 

473
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,400
Where his mindset was. 
And so we're called to be more 

474
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,160
Jesus like and look at where his
mind was constantly. 

475
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,520
Which one of the biggest prayers
that I just continue to pray is 

476
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,280
like, let your will be done. 
Like don't let me take this into

477
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,440
my own hands and try to make 
this and that and the other 

478
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600
happen because we do know that 
his plan is so much better. 

479
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,280
So when we do try to take 
control of those things, which 

480
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680
is normal, it's our flesh, we're
going to do it. 

481
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,400
But that's when I'm like, Lord, 
please let this be your will. 

482
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,360
And that's one of the things 
about being in line with him is 

483
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:06,720
like, you start to recognize 
what his will truly is for your 

484
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,040
life when you're far away from 
him. 

485
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,280
You're not sure what that is 
because you can't discern. 

486
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,240
You can't hear him. 
You can't you, You don't know. 

487
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,880
Yeah. 
So being in line with him and 

488
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,280
trying to make sure that I'm 
steady, staying close to him, 

489
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,320
that's when we can see the will.
And Jesus was, I mean, we saw 

490
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,080
where he would spend 40 days and
40 nights in the wilderness 

491
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,960
crying out to God and being 
spending time with him and 

492
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960
praying and fasting. 
So yeah. 

493
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,600
And yeah, it doesn't mean it's 
not going to always be heavy, 

494
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,000
because I just think about how 
heavy it was still on him. 

495
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Well, we know that the night 
before when he's in the garden, 

496
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,280
he's crying out like this is 
still have to do I take it from 

497
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,880
Yeah. 
Take it frightening, Lord. 

498
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,280
Yes. 
And so we do know that some of 

499
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,680
the times when we're in these 
positions, it's going to be 

500
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,480
heavy. 
It's going to call us to be 

501
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,360
uncomfortable and do hard 
things. 

502
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,880
And you know what else goes with
that? 

503
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,440
That list of things? 
God doesn't give things 

504
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,560
stronger. 
What is it you can handle that 

505
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,440
you can? 
Handle That is such a lie. 

506
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,880
It is such a lie because he does
give us hard things and we can't

507
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,040
handle them. 
That is why he can't. 

508
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,600
That's what we're supposed to 
tap. 

509
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,160
Into We're cooking. 
That's what we're supposed to 

510
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,600
tap into is, if you think about 
it from that mindset, no, I 

511
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,680
can't, but I'm not alive in me 
anymore. 

512
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,040
It's not me doing it, it's him 
fulfilling it. 

513
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,680
And so he gives us those hard 
things to do what? 

514
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,600
To turn around and give it back 
to. 

515
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,160
Him and give it back to him. 
And also what? 

516
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,520
Tap into the power of the Spirit
inside of us, right? 

517
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,680
And that's something I got to 
get better at really and truly. 

518
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,880
Like I still sometimes carry and
walk around that I might not can

519
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,480
do certain things, but it's not 
me doing it anymore. 

520
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,000
It's him. 
And he can do these things. 

521
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,360
He can't handle these things. 
He can't handle this hard news. 

522
00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,240
He can't handle this bad 
situation. 

523
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480
I can't. 
And he also can love those that 

524
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,080
you think that you can't love. 
Exactly, he 100% loves them. 

525
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,640
He. 
Does and he's going to love them

526
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,960
through you. 
So like one of the things that 

527
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,400
Miss Cherie talks about is like 
she really struggled loving her 

528
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,800
husband in the state like where 
they were because they're 

529
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,280
completely unyoked. 
He's agnostic. 

530
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,880
She's on fire for the Lord. 
It's hard to imagine is like the

531
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,800
complete opposite of you 
basically. 

532
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,200
It's hard to love somebody that 
you do get. 

533
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,840
Along I don't know, there is 
sometimes no, but like so she 

534
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:49,880
says she started having to pray 
like God love him through me 

535
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,320
like show me how to love him, 
teach me how to love him, teach 

536
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,920
me how to be the wife that he 
needs so that he can see you so 

537
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,120
he can experience you. 
And you know what Miss Cherie 

538
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,680
got? 
She, she got something right 

539
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,120
because I mean, after a long 
time, like she was loving him, 

540
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,600
she was pouring God into him and
he came to Christ. 

541
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,000
That is crazy because what I 
wrote down to was, do we believe

542
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,720
that kind of love can truly help
somebody change? 

543
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,680
Yep, yes, 100. 
Like the fact that you brought 

544
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,360
that up about Kayla. 
Yeah. 

545
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,840
And then Miss Cherie's husband. 
Like, I think it's sometimes the

546
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,840
only way that somebody is going 
to make that change is when you 

547
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,520
love them in that manner and you
love them through that. 

548
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Life, if you're not loving them,
how are they experiencing 

549
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,960
Christ? 
Like if you're being hateful 

550
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,840
towards them, how would they 
experience Christ? 

551
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,760
Because now they've got a bad 
taste in their mouth of what 

552
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,920
Christians are. 
Because I'm going to be honest, 

553
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,200
a lot of time we're already 
called hypocrites anyway of 

554
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,800
being part of a church. 
So now you are fitting in with 

555
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,400
that narrative that people so 
much always talk about, you 

556
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
know, like they're like, I don't
want to come to the church 

557
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,040
because the church is just full 
of hypocrites. 

558
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Church hurt and they have all 
this church hurt and it's not 

559
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Jesus hurt, it's church hurt. 
It's physical 4 walls. 

560
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,280
The people in the four walls 
hurt you and not Jesus. 

561
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,920
That wasn't him. 
He wouldn't have done that to 

562
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,320
look at all the people that he 
just came in contact with and 

563
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,440
healed them and bless them and 
all this stuff. 

564
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,680
He's the same God as he was 
then. 

565
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,280
I think, and I was saying that 
earlier, I think that situation 

566
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,680
right there sometimes is why 
it's so hard for somebody to 

567
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,760
accept Jesus absolutely because 
of that reason, because it's so 

568
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,080
comparative to how they've been 
treated on this earth by 

569
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,800
somebody that says they love 
Jesus. 

570
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,360
So make, you know, I would be 
like, make that make sense. 

571
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,480
If they love Jesus and they just
treated me like this, how does 

572
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,440
that work? 
So yeah, but that isn't him. 

573
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,800
That isn't, you know, if you 
know him and you know his word 

574
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,640
and you know what he says, that 
isn't him. 

575
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,600
That was not him. 
And that was that human flesh in

576
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,120
that person. 
You're not supposed to be 

577
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400
changing these people anyway. 
That's not your job. 

578
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,000
Yeah, your job is just to love 
them. 

579
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,200
God's going to change them. 
God's going to work on their 

580
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,160
heart. 
God's going to cleanse them all 

581
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,200
this stuff just like he did me 
and you. 

582
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
I didn't do anything. 
The part my mom didn't do 

583
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,760
anything, nobody did anything. 
God truly, I started 

584
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,360
surrendering to him and he 
cleansed me right like. 

585
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,640
I'm glad you're bringing that up
because I will talk about when 

586
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,680
my dad first came back into my 
life and we've touched. 

587
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,120
On this a little trying to 
change. 

588
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,680
We touched on this a little bit,
I think, but it kind of goes 

589
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,160
with this topic. 
Yeah. 

590
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,320
He came in firing brimstone. 
Yeah. 

591
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Like, I'm talking about, you 
know, he hadn't been a part of 

592
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,000
our life. 
I was 1516 at the time. 

593
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,840
And here he is walking in. 
Like, the way you're living, 

594
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,920
this is not how you need to be 
living The, you know, all of 

595
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,280
this stuff. 
Like, there is a hell. 

596
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,080
There is this. 
And I'm like, if you don't, I'm 

597
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,600
not listening to you. 
I know because I remember that 

598
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,720
too. 
Yeah, but when? 

599
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,120
He didn't come at it from that. 
Oh, and it was probably just 

600
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,200
something he had to work out 
with the Lord he was learning 

601
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,760
to. 
For the Lord, you can't control 

602
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,560
it. 
You know what I'm saying? 

603
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Like fresh, you just want 
everybody to experience it. 

604
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,880
Like you just want them to see 
what you've seen. 

605
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,920
So. 
So when he kind of took a step 

606
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,640
back and I know he had to pray 
about it a lot and just started 

607
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,440
living with us, like just loving
us. 

608
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,520
Just kind of like when Paul says
to a Jew, I'm a Jew, to a 

609
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,120
Gentile, I'm a gentile. 
I'm just going to meet you where

610
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,120
you're at and be on your level. 
And that's kind of what my dad 

611
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,600
had to do. 
Not meaning he partaked in 

612
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,000
anything that we did, but he was
just there. 

613
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,000
He just started to love us, get 
to know us, got on our level. 

614
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,360
Like, you know, what's been 
going on in your life? 

615
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,320
Where's your mind? 
You know, how is everything 

616
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,000
going? 
What? 

617
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,040
Oh, I didn't know you've been 
through this or you know where 

618
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,800
you've worked. 
And I just really just got on 

619
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,840
our level, man. 
It's like then you feel open 

620
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,840
enough to like give that person 
your time or get, you know, kind

621
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,000
of put some trust into that 
person. 

622
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,400
And I think that is huge as a 
Christ follower and loving 

623
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,440
somebody where they're at is 
them learning that they can 

624
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,840
trust you, because that opens up
a whole new realm of being able 

625
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,560
to speak truth into somebody's 
life and don't actually hear it.

626
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,440
It does because I mean, I don't 
necessarily like when my mom 

627
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,960
went to the Potter's house and 
she got none. 

628
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,800
I don't remember her coming back
and being like, you better 

629
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,080
change right now. 
Like I just remember her really 

630
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,120
loving me where I was at. 
She didn't, she didn't say like 

631
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,680
going to George Bob's again, you
know, like, I mean, she would 

632
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,120
make those sly comments 
sometimes, but it wasn't never 

633
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,320
like you're going to hell or 
hurtful or whatever. 

634
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,440
She's like, Alexis, it's like 
the third, fourth time this 

635
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,560
week. 
It's Wednesday, you know, like 

636
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,680
it was never, I'm condemning 
you, I want more for you. 

637
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,400
And like, that was such a 
turning point in my life because

638
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:14,719
I saw her just radiate, Yes. 
Like she just truly just loved 

639
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,880
and showed me and invited me 
places. 

640
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,840
Like she invited me to that 
women's conference where like 

641
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,400
literally sparked everything 
back in April. 

642
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,960
As soon as I come from back from
that, I'm like, I'm getting all 

643
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,880
my health journey. 
I'm getting all my God journey. 

644
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,600
Like, I'm getting right, like 
all this. 

645
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:31,560
Yeah. 
And so like just those little 

646
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,520
things just make such a big 
difference of them just being 

647
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,440
like, I love you. 
I don't I don't agree what 

648
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,560
you're doing, but I love you and
I want the best for you. 

649
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,679
And I'm just going to throw in 
snippets of, you know, something

650
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,040
here and there. 
Just throw in those little tooth

651
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,880
bombs as you've kind of built 
that trust and that love and 

652
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,400
that relationship because like, 
think about this, like our 

653
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,360
relationship with Jesus, right? 
And it's starting out in trust 

654
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,280
and faith kind of go, you know, 
hand in hand. 

655
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,440
Like our faith grows the more 
that we learn that we can lean 

656
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,520
on Jesus, right? 
And the more that he brings us 

657
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,680
through and we know he's going 
to bring it, bring us through 

658
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,360
it. 
But it's the same way in a 

659
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,240
relationship, just with 
somebody, you know, your parent,

660
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,640
your friend, your best friend, 
your aunt, your uncle. 

661
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,040
The more that you trust them and
the more that they walk with you

662
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,680
through this life, the more that
you feel like you can pour 

663
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,600
yourself into them or them pour 
themselves into you. 

664
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,760
And this is same way with kind 
of Jesus and going back and 

665
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,760
forth and walking through this 
life with him. 

666
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,760
So that's us being Christ like 
to those around us and allowing 

667
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,480
them to trust us and us holding 
that word and being true to them

668
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,240
and true to ourselves. 
One of the things that my mom 

669
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,600
did say too, is like, I didn't 
get it right for over 30 years. 

670
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,840
Like I, I, I had experienced 
God, but I still fell short. 

671
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,480
I still would go back into that 
life. 

672
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:01,520
I would still do all these 
things. 

673
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,200
So who am I to say that you got 
to get it right right now and 

674
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,520
figure it out. 
Sometimes it just takes people 

675
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,880
longer. 
Yeah, you know, and I wish 

676
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,680
everybody could just experience 
it right near right now. 

677
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,720
But like, right when I came to 
Christ, I was beating Greg over 

678
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:18,480
the head. 
Yeah. 

679
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,600
Didn't do nothing but argued 
worse, right. 

680
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480
And then finally, I did have to 
get to the point where I'm like,

681
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,240
I just can't really talk about 
it no more. 

682
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:30,840
Like, you know, I don't think 
it's coming. 

683
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,880
From us, like Diane had to get 
with us was not that he didn't 

684
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,200
talk about GS. 
He always talked about Jesus, 

685
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,200
but not to us, just around with 
us. 

686
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,120
With us, Yes, correct. 
Yeah, it wasn't to us. 

687
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,480
It was with us. 
Correct. 

688
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,280
It would just be like, like, I 
remember this was when we were 

689
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,680
all still drinking and stuff 
and, you know, we wouldn't be 

690
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,400
feeling awful the next day, 
probably hungover or something. 

691
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,480
And he's just like, bouncing for
joy, like, you know, cooking 

692
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,840
breakfast or something like. 
Cooking breakfast or asking us 

693
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,440
to go eat breakfast because 
while we're wanting to eat 

694
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,480
because we don't feel good, he's
just wanting he's. 

695
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,880
Just living his and he. 
Wants to enjoy it with us. 

696
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,480
He. 
Looks like he feels great. 

697
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,680
Yeah, he. 
I knew he just got out of his 

698
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,160
word. 
Like his mindset is where I want

699
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,880
to be. 
And I'm sitting there, it's dark

700
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,200
mindset. 
And I'm like, that's when it 

701
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,960
starts, when you see somebody 
walk in there, walk like that, 

702
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,800
and you won't, and you desire 
what they have. 

703
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,960
And you're sitting over there 
kind of in misery and you're 

704
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,360
like, is that real? 
Is he really that joyful? 

705
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,360
Towards the end, I really did 
start saying this towards the 

706
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,200
end of my drinking days of like,
I'm going to drink today and 

707
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,440
steal happiness from tomorrow 
because truly, like, you may be 

708
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,840
living it up and doing all this 
stuff, but tomorrow's going to 

709
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,600
suck. 
Yeah, like, absolutely be 

710
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,920
terrible. 
And so like, you talking about 

711
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,240
Mike, I remember my mom always. 
And I'm like, man, she never 

712
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,760
feels bad. 
I know she's always happy. 

713
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,120
She's always got, you know, like
just waking up, going to go 

714
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,760
anywhere or the fact of like 
that late at night, just jumping

715
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,520
into her car, riding to the gas 
station if she wants to ride. 

716
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,000
And I'll be like, I can't do 
that because now I'm 

717
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,840
intoxicating and I can't drive. 
I know I'm we're kind of like 

718
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,440
hitting. 
I don't even know how we got 

719
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,920
here. 
I don't because we're just 

720
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,920
saying like they were just 
living with us and around us and

721
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,560
being that light and that's how 
they loved us where we were at. 

722
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,360
You know, that's right. 
And that's that is what we're 

723
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,080
really the point we're making 
from this was they the moment 

724
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,920
they quit trying to change us 
because we were their children, 

725
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,280
the moment they just started 
living with us and we saw the 

726
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,440
joy in their life and they just 
walked their walk regardless of 

727
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,520
what we did. 
We started desiring what they 

728
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,480
have. 
And that's how I think you truly

729
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,440
love somebody where they're at 
and help them to get there with 

730
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,120
Christ. 
That's good man, that's good. 

731
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,120
Can't believe we came to there. 
All the way. 

732
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,000
We just did a full. 
Like whatever, you know, Greg 

733
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,680
always says that's what Pat does
all the time. 

734
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,960
He says you got to do all this 
to get to this. 

735
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,640
You got to do all this. 
Like, so now every single time 

736
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,120
anyway. 
All right. 

737
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,120
Yeah, I It's so crazy how these 
episodes always go. 

738
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,120
Yeah, because you like never how
we plan it. 

739
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,640
No, never what I think we're 
going to talk about. 

740
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200
And then we just hit topics and 
God put stuff on our heart and 

741
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,720
he talks through us and it's 
just, I love why I ride. 

742
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,360
I love the Lord. 
That's right. 

743
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,280
And you know what? 
And that's what I try to tell 

744
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,560
people when like they're getting
ready to come give their 

745
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,480
testimony on here. 
It is net like, you truly don't 

746
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,880
even realize. 
Like even my mom, she despises 

747
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,440
coming on here sometimes it 
stresses her out. 

748
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,880
She's worried to death. 
She don't like the lights and 

749
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,200
the cameras and all this. 
It's just a conversation. 

750
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,720
Like I mean, at the beginning 
now we did have some stuff 

751
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,080
scripted out. 
I would send questions and I'd 

752
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,640
be like, I need to read what 
you're going to say and all 

753
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,840
this. 
And now I'm like. 

754
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,800
It's too much our touch, like 
you don't want your touch on it,

755
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,840
you want the Lord, so just let 
it. 

756
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,200
Slowly. 
Exactly. 

757
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,840
And just be genuine to the 
conversation. 

758
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,600
Like that's one of the reasons 
why too. 

759
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,480
I'm like, I think maybe Isaiah's
jobs become a little bit easier 

760
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,000
because now we're like truly 
just, you know, what? 

761
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,920
If we mess up or we say 
something, I'm like Hitchin is 

762
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,560
what it is what it is, you know?
But I was gone is good no matter

763
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,800
what. 
And he gets the glory for all of

764
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,320
this. 
And where there are two, he is 

765
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,680
there. 
So I truly believe that he is in

766
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040
every conversation that we have 
and we're not going to get it 

767
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,640
right. 
And people will, I think, 

768
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,440
scrutinize you no matter what. 
But I'm just going to focus on 

769
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,320
my walk with him and focus on 
where my relationship is out 

770
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,080
with him. 
And that's number one. 

771
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,320
And hopefully that can flow 
through these conversations. 

772
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,600
Yeah. 
So our biggest take away from 

773
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,400
today is just loves like the 
people around you. 

774
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,280
Love the people that go out of 
your way for people, people that

775
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,040
have wronged you. 
Try to forgive, not try. 

776
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Yes, in commandment, yes, 
forgive them, love them. 

777
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,080
I mean, send the text. 
One of the best. 

778
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,880
I know we're about to close, but
hang on one second. 

779
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:15,120
One of the best advice I've ever
gotten from a girl, me and her 

780
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,160
were talking about the situation
that I was in and how I was 

781
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
like, I'm just so negative 
towards it XYZ. 

782
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,120
And she's like whatever your 
flesh wants to do, do the 

783
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,480
opposite. 
Yes. 

784
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,560
And when she said that I'm like,
man, that's good. 

785
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,840
And so now every single time I'm
like, I am not texting her, I'm 

786
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,400
not checking on her. 
I read her status where she 

787
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,200
don't feel good, he's canceled. 
I ain't praying for it. 

788
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:42,480
Like who what like why, you 
know, like I did catch myself in

789
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,880
situations like that and then 
I'm like, no, my flesh doesn't 

790
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,240
want that, but God would want 
that. 

791
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,920
God would be praying for her. 
God would be, you know, like 

792
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,160
loving her and checking in on 
her. 

793
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,240
So let me if I, if I'm truly 
wanting to be Christ like, I 

794
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,000
need to do Christ actions and 
that would be Christ actions. 

795
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,160
That's so good to end on that 
note is whatever our flesh 

796
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,600
sometimes is telling us to do 
the opposite because nine times 

797
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,840
out of 10 Christ like and we're 
called to do it, we're commanded

798
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,960
to do it and love. 
Others like he loves us. 

799
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,400
Clocked it. 
All right, guys. 

800
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,400
We hope you enjoyed it as much 
as we have. 

801
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,720
Yes, this is going to be a great
episode. 

802
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,800
I feel like I pray that it just 
pushes you closer to Jesus and 

803
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:25,960
you love others. 
Yeah. 

804
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,760
And even yourself. 
And yourself love the way that 

805
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,320
he loves, Absolutely. 
So stay tuned, stay blessed and 

806
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,840
we'll see you guys later. 
Bye.

