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What's up, guys? 
My name's Alexis, your host of 

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Praises in the Pod, and I'm so 
excited to be back in the studio

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with Lindsay Walker. 
But this time her husband Joey 

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is entering the chat, and so 
we're super excited about that. 

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We actually recorded your 
episode like 2 months ago. 

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It's been a while, so I'm I'm 
going to have to catch up a 

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little bit myself, but we're 
going to start off in prayer and

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then we're going to jump right 
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So here we go. 
Lord, Heavenly Father, just 

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thank you for today and all of 
your many blessings. 

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Dear God, thank you for this 
space that we get to come and 

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talk about your goodness and 
your faithfulness that you have 

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led and and just guided us 
through all of the things that 

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we have encountered in our 
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Lord God, we just pray that our 
story, our testimony and what 

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you've done in our lives brings 
people closer to you. 

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We pray that they see the light 
of you through US and let us be 

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a vessel for you today. 
Lord God, speak to us and 

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through us and let this episode 
glorify you. 

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In Jesus name I pray. 
Amen. 

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Amen. 
All right. 

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So yeah, it's been a while. 
It's been a it has yes and the 

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episode still hasn't even come 
out. 

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I think it's like next month I 
think and then y'alls will come 

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out on the 22nd I believe. 
Don't. 

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Anyway, when y'all listen to 
this it'll be out, you know, 

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except. 
Right, they won't know any 

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different. 
Yes, so Joey, we talked to 

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Lindsay previously and we just 
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we see y'all doing great Kingdom
work now together and just being

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a equally yoked marriage and 
stuff and just I want to see 

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what that looks like for y'all. 
Like what did what did your life

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look like growing up? 
So early on I grew up, I got 

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with this is me, my sister, my 
mom and dad and and we were just

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living in Warner Robins. 
But church wasn't a part of our 

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life or anything like that. 
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years old, my grandma decided it
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church. 
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there. 
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staple in our life. 
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guess a faith foundation, but a 
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learning who God was and things 
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But it wasn't, it wasn't 
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part of my life. 
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go. 
I was just there because my 

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grandma made me. 
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drastically different than how 
you for. 

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Because we see like you're what 
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think. 
No, he's a pastor. 

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He is a pastor. 
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He's a favorite pastor. 
Has he always been when we were 

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in school? 
Y'all see? 

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It's been a while. 
I remember. 

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OK. 
So I knew that he was, you know,

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very big in the church, but I 
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girl. 
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But yeah, like, you know, you 
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foundation and y'all are there 
every time the door open. 

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And then, you know, for Joey, it
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Different. 
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It was. 
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once in a while and then 
Shoney's for breakfast and that 

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was about it. 
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So going for high school or 
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did you face a lot of like 
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I didn't know I was struggling. 
I thought I was cool. 

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I thought I was chilling. 
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Like I was popular and, and I 
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be the cool guy and the funny 
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And that's really kind of what 
have the Lord confronted me 

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later on in life of like, I was 
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even the nice guy sometimes, 
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hanging around. 
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prideful stuff of who I could 
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about me. 
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think about like, just because 
you're cool when school or the 

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jokester and all this like you 
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struggling, but truly like 
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You just want the attention. 
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until later on and you're like, 
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void. 
And you look back and you're 

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just like, Oh my gosh, what a 
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Yeah, so when do y'all meet 
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We met my second first year 
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Technically we met your first 
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student teaching that year. 
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Huntington Middle School, OK, 
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We met in the copy room and she 
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Whatever. 
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She. 
Came up to me and was telling me

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all about all the things and 
here's how to do work to copier 

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and all this and. 
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personality because I am very, I
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I'm very much to myself. 
But I walked in and I saw he had

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a Georgia college name tag on. 
That's where I went to school. 

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I was like, oh, he's all good. 
People yeah, I sparked up 

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conversation and. 
She's a great conversationalist.

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So that's where it hit it. 
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That's where it kind of started,
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And then he came. 
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But at that point I wasn't. 
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I didn't have a job there. 
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work there. 
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Did you know you wanted to move 
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Oh, yeah, I knew I wanted to be 
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And the goal was ultimately to 
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into the baseball program, just 
because that's where I, you 

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know, grew up. 
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Yeah, so he, I coached and he 
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coaching and I was like, sure. 
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So. 
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For free. 
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You say so did them years for 
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For sure. 
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friendship basically started. 
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Like when does it actually 
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When does it look like it could 
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I think we kind of talked about 
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So let's hear Joey's PM. 
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So from my point of view, we're 
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mean, obviously she's an 
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And so but I'm just going to 
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When I when I signed on to teach
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at track because baseball wasn't
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track. 
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And so I'm like, I'll go help 
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fix And through coaching with 
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Like we like all the same 
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And as the season progressed, I,
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pursue this. 
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I mean, it was not a thing at 
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And then I just asked her on a 
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Oh OK dear, I told you I 
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You did. 
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Did you know at that point like 
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friend zone you or you were just
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I was just like, all right, so 
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your sister because you're not 
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But I also knew her personality 
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analyze this. 
I need to make sure this box is 

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good and this box is good. 
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personality just from being 
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And so I was like, well, this 
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It's it's fun. 
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hesitations more so we kind of 
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just in case people haven't 
listened like why are you trying

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to make sure these boxes are 
checked and what boxes exactly? 

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Yeah, so at. 
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OK, the next person that I date 
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marry, you know, and so 
obviously I'm looking to marry a

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godly man and a man that can, 
you know, lead our family 

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spiritually. 
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exactly where he stood 
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And so that kind of had to be, 
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explore just to see, you know, 
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He had told me a little bit of 
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And so I just, I needed to see, 
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I wasn't going to date somebody 
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spiritual. 
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for a long time. 
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coming to church with me. 
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friends for. 
A year, yeah, I mean. 

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It was a while. 
From the start to like not the 

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not the pursuant part, but yeah,
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Where is your walk spiritually 
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friendship? 
It's it's saved with 0 

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discipleship almost. 
I mean I'm I would pray 

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regularly every day. 
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the Lord every day. 
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understanding of anything was 
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Yeah, who? 
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So is she open and honest about 
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Like, hey, you're not 
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So she would never say it that 
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a lot of questions to be asked 
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honestly as I could with the 
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You know, the Lord is in my life
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with him, but I don't know what 
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even means. 
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quite a while, honestly. 
I love how like you are so 

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confident and like, no, I'm 
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And I'm not swaying. 
I'm not like I need someone to 

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leave me spiritually because 
sometimes us as girls, we really

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want that person, right? 
And they say that they're saved,

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but they're not discipled. 
They don't know how to, they 

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don't know how to lead a family 
and all this. 

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And we're like, it's OK, it's 
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But then we get in these 
situations and we're like, we're

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mad, but we needed them to grow.
We needed them to seek the Lord 

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and stuff like that. 
Not saying that you sought the 

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Lord because of Lindsay. 
No, no, no, no, I get it. 

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Look, I had some growing up to 
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people around that were able to,
I was able to do that, I mean. 

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how you were discipled. 
Did did you find men that just 

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poured into you? 
Did you start reading? 

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What? 
What did that? 

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Disciples? 
Was like, it was a lot of time 

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with the Lord of the Word, a lot
of that Mister Jimmy, her dad 

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poured into me a lot. 
He's got two really good 

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friends, Mr. Carl and Mr. 
Darrell, who I spent a lot of 

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time with early on just kind of 
picking their brains and asking 

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questions. 
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Lot of questions. 
Yeah, I'm a I'm a talker and I'm

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a question asker. 
I just want to know everything. 

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I'm the best Jeopardy player 
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But I just, I just wanted to, I 
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Once I found out that there was 
more information to be had other

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than just all right, me and the 
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And so that was really it. 
It was kind of like just really 

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eye opening and, and really it 
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It kind of put it kind of put 
flesh to bones that I had of 

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what my understanding was of 
what it looked like to be a 

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godly man. 
You know, my dad's an awesome 

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dude and, and he's taught me a 
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like being able to dive into our
Heavenly Father and what he had 

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for me was just even more than 
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That's good. 
That's good because we can learn

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so much from our parents. 
Like we look at Lindsay's life 

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and you know, you were taught at
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Bible, how to pray, how to do 
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So it's so important that we 
find these people that can pour 

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into us that are more mature 
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then we can pour out, you know, 
So what, what's the changing 

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moment? 
When when do y'all figure out 

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like, OK, like you grow for 
about a year and then tell us a 

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little bit about that that. 
'D be that'd be, I guess, more 

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for her to ask. 
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that is, you know, at this point
in my walk with Christ, I had 

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been diving into the word, I 
don't know for almost 10 years 

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and I felt like in just a year 
he almost. 

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Caught up with me like. 
He, I'm telling you, he just, he

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soaked it up like a sponge. 
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godly conversations, spiritual 
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He was sharing his faith, his 
family. 

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I remember one time specifically
his mom told me, like, you've 

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changed him so much. 
And I'm in my head, I'm 

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thinking, I haven't changed him.
Like this is the work of the 

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spirit. 
I can't do it, you know, and 

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just just to see that and you 
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it. 
And so it just went from there. 

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Wow. 
So in this time period, it's not

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like you're necessarily doing it
for Lindsay, but did she like 

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push you to want to grow because
of the questions? 

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How was that? 
I don't think it was she pushed 

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me to want to grow. 
I think it was more of like an 

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access like she, she opened up 
this tiny window and it, and it 

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wasn't she, she didn't have to 
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you know, whether we had worked 
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front of me. 
And if that relationship's not 

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paramount anyway, then none of 
the other stuff matters anyway. 

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And so I mean, I, I remember 
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when she was kind of that 
pursuant part was dragging on, I

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remember thinking like, if this 
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a decision, Am I going to be 
planted here or not? 

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I'm going to be planted here. 
And so like a second was going 

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to be my home, whether me and 
Lindsay stayed were just friends

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or if we were more than that. 
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kind of opened the door, but I 
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like her questions that pushed 
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It was more the Holy Spirit kind
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we got to, we got to grow up. 
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it too. 
He, he was prime and ready. 

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He was just waiting on, he 
needed, like you said, access. 

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He needed to know what do I do 
next? 

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You know, and I think part of 
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long to get there was because I,
I was like, OK, you know, I'm, 

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I'm, I analyze everything. 
So I think through everything. 

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I'm like, is, is this genuine or
is he really trying to just 

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pursue me? 
And so after, you know, a year 

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plus, I'm like, OK, he's he 
loves Lord. 

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Like this is genuine. 
And so, yeah. 

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I just love that so much. 
I just do. 

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I'm like, Oh my gosh. 
Because most of the time people 

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are just waiting for an invite. 
They're just waiting on that act

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like the access, like what 
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be open, like maybe they got 
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to do. 
I think this is like a common 

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thing that's like now, now say 
now what? 

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Or something like that. 
Like people said that what's up?

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And it is so true. 
Like we let people get saved and

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then what does the disciples 
should not let them. 

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Lord, that is not what I meant. 
We don't let them. 

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We just guide them right and 
give give these opportunities. 

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It's just not the it's not the 
finish line, right? 

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That's right. 
The starting point of a 

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sanctification, sanctification 
process. 

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And and so that's one reason I'm
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youth now at our church is like,
I'm not going to let that happen

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to other kids. 
And not that not that it let it 

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happen. 
I'm I'm sure I could have been 

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more adamant about pursuing what
it was supposed to be, but I 

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just thought it was a finish 
line. 

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Like, all right, cool, check 
that box. 

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But again, knowing the, the my 
faith background checking the 

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box was what it was. 
And in my mind anyway, I didn't 

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understand the fullness and the 
richness of what was available 

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to me if I could, if I just 
would, dive in. 

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That is true, That is true, 
because it's taste and see right

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and we need people to taste and 
see the goodness of God and once

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they do, it opens up a whole new
where like you can't get enough 

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such a glory yes and So what 
does life look like once y'all 

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start dating? 
I love how y'all if y'all are 

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not watching if y'all are not 
watching. 

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Lindsay's eyes kind of looked up
and was like, well, this is you.

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Sally, I mean, Lindsay's a very 
private person anyway, so as 

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when, so when we dated, it was a
we're not going to let the 

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students know type thing, alias 
school. 

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Working together. 
You're still working together, 

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So that was that. 
But then it was, it was really 

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just kind of dating to get 
married, right? 

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I mean, it was dating to see if 
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where we had, we both assumed. 
I don't know if you know this, 

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but I'm like substantially older
than her. 

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OK, didn't know that. 
Yeah, didn't know that. 

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Yeah. 
I not that you're not, not that 

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you're not young and beautiful 
girl. 

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I just didn't know that. 
Yeah, I am 7 1/2 years older 

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than her. 
Yeah. 

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So it we're at a point in both 
of our lives where it's not like

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we're like, if we're if we're 
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least considering getting 
married, this is. 

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Yes, wasting time. 
And so it was, it was really 

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about getting to know each other
best that way and get into and 

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having the conversations really 
early of, you know, what does it

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look like to raise a family? 
What does it look like to live 

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in the same town as both of our 
families and, and spend the time

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with them and that and the 
financial stuff and, and I know 

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this is, I know a lot of this is
about marriage. 

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So I'll just side note here real
quick. 

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I know I can look at the camera,
talk about these things before 

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you get married. 
Period, Joey, Period. 

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Yes, talk about it. 
And so it, it was really that 

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and just kind of growing closer 
and closer to each other, really

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pursuing the Lord. 
And I know you've probably seen 

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the depiction like as you both 
grow closer to the Lord, you 

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grow closer to each other and 
and. 

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I haven't. 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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So the the idea is if you're if,
if you if you're chasing the 

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Lord here and so is your spouse,
You're also getting closer 

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together as you get there. 
I have never you're like you 

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said that so like y'all know 
what I'm talking about No, the 

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triangle I have seen the 
triangle right, but I've never 

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heard like what's the triangle 
more so but. 

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Yeah, you. 
And so that's really what we 

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were doing, just chasing the 
Lord together. 

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What was that book we walked 
through? 

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I can't remember either. 
It was a book we walked through 

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together just to really did 
y'all. 

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Just do it together or we just 
did it together. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Did y'all do marriage counseling

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and stuff? 
We did, Pastor Jim Perdue did 

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the marriage counseling for us 
and, and that was really 

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awesome. 
And, and he was really big on 

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the conversations and making 
sure everything is laid out 

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ahead of time. 
That way when you get into the 

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marriage you don't have those 
problems. 

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Yeah, how long were y'all dating
before you got engaged? 

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A year and a half. 
OK. 

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And I, I had heard somebody say 
one time, you know, as a single 

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person living for the Lord, you 
have your own ministry and 

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marriage. 
One of the purposes of marriage 

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is to find someone else that 
where when your ministries come 

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together, you're more effective 
for the Lord. 

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And so I felt that with him, we 
just have a lot of the same 

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interests we have and even in 
his coaching and just how much 

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we love sports, just to see how 
God's kind of brought those two 

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things together. 
Yeah, it's really cool. 

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But Joy, I think you should tell
her how we got engaged. 

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You think I should tell the 
whole story? 

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We want to hear it. 
Go ahead. 

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OK, so it's. 
Really unconventional. 

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Lindsay hates surprises, and I 
love surprises. 

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Really like very opposite 
personality, a light but so 

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different. 
Yes, yes. 

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Our personalities are very 
different, our interests are 

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very alike. 
And so I am very spontaneous 

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and, and I like to get things I 
like to. 

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We could do something right now 
and it'd be totally different 

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than what we planned on doing. 
And, and that would drive her 

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crazy. 
And so anyway, we're going down 

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to Florida and, and with her 
family on their vacation. 

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And I already know I'm going to 
ask the question. 

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I asked her dad's permission 
like the day before we left, OK,

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I, I was pretty confident Mr. 
Jimmy was going to say yes, OK. 

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And so, but like her sister, 
Katie and I had already worked 

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out this plan where like we were
going to go, they like to go for

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walks on the beach anyway. 
And so we're going to do that. 

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And I was going to ask her out 
there and it was going to and 

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they were her whole family was 
going to be there and there's 

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going to be awesome. 
And we get there and, and it's 

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me, Lindsay, Katie and her 
parents. 

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And I go down to the car to go 
get more stuff because I'm the, 

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I'm the young man there loading 
the car. 

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I'm unloading the car and I and 
her ring has been stuffed in my 

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suitcase and she has never 
unloaded my suitcase before and 

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has never unloaded my suitcase 
since. 

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But tell tell them why I 
unloaded your suitcase. 

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She's going to say it was 
because I'm very particular by 

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the way my clothes look, and so 
she was trying to make sure that

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my stuff wasn't he. 
Spent all this time ironing his 

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clothes like the night before. 
He don't have her iron. 

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So I was like, OK, he's still 
unloading. 

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Let me just like, hang those 
shirts up for them because he 

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spent all this time ironing. 
And so I come back up and and 

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this, this is, this is how holy 
she is. 

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She can't even fix the mess she 
made. 

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It's sitting on top of all the 
clothes, the ring box, 

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everything. 
She just drops it and runs. 

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Oh my God, yeah, I panicked. 
And so now I am, like, trying to

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figure out how to salvage this 
whole thing because I am adamant

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about this being a big moment 
that we can tell everybody 

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forever. 
And so I'm out there talking to 

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Katie. 
These are romantic. 

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I'm not. 
Yeah. 

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I'm out there talking to Katie. 
What do we do now? 

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I don't understand what I I got 
to come up with a new plan. 

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And in the meantime, Katie's 
husband Lance, who is now 

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probably my best friend, she is 
on the phone with him and I 

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don't know him yet like that and
he's dying laughing, making fun 

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of me. 
And I'm just like this guy. 

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Shout out Lance and so I'm out 
on the balcony and and I'm 

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looking around. 
I'm just scanning trying to like

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how did my life get here now 
where I can't even pull this 

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together and Lindsay comes out 
there and says, all right, when 

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you going to ask me right now? 
Right, let's do it. 

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Let's do it. 
And I'm like, no, not at all 

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like I got. 
Actually, not even this strip. 

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Yeah, it might not even happen 
now. 

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And then the the she hit me with
a quote that I will never forget

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in my life. 
And she said, all right, well, 

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when you get ready to do it and 
you put your big boy pants on 

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you, come on in here. 
I'll be waiting. 

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Gosh. 
That is Lindsay. 

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That is Lindsay. 
And so I go into the room and, 

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and meanwhile I have we're not 
married. 

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I have my own individual room 
and it is a child's room. 

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It is a a bed about the size of 
this couch. 

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It is raised up. 
It's got like this plastic 

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dolphin on the wall and this 
like table on the other side of 

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the room where you can color and
stuff like that. 

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And I hadn't got the color in 
yet. 

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But so I'm sitting in there on 
the bed and I'm just like, what 

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00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,120
do I do? 
And she comes in and she's like,

447
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,240
my stomach's going to hurt the 
whole trip. 

448
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,080
If you don't ask me. 
I got right here, this door 

449
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,640
right now. 
I'm going to be nervous the 

450
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,600
whole I'm going. 
To be on edge the whole trip. 

451
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,400
I'm drinking out you. 
You got to ask me right now. 

452
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840
As I'm holding it and I'm like, 
all right, well, I mean, I'll 

453
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,880
ask you, but I'm not getting 
down on this hard floor with the

454
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,920
sand on it. 
And she said yes, you are. 

455
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,080
I was like, yeah, you are. 
And so I did and, and, and so I 

456
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,600
asked her and, and I said and 
she said yes. 

457
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,680
And, and I told her that when 
she told the story to other 

458
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,760
people, she better tell them 
that I proposed to her at the 

459
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:34,440
beach in front of dolphins. 
And so and, and, and so she 

460
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,640
said, yes, we had our moment. 
We went and took very fake 

461
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,360
engagement pictures later that 
were great. 

462
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:40,480
Yeah. 
And reacted. 

463
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,200
Everything's worked out in her 
favor ever since. 

464
00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:45,200
I love that of. 
Course. 

465
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,320
Oh yeah, absolutely. 
I love that because not 

466
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,200
everything goes as planned, 
right? 

467
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,400
Like life. 
We know that especially on this 

468
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,360
side of Christ, you know, things
don't go as planned and y'all 

469
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,680
make the most of it. 
And I love that. 

470
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,640
It's still beautiful, hilarious 
story. 

471
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,000
Hilarious, everybody. 
Everybody seems to get more 

472
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,360
tickled than I do, but. 
Yeah, so it's so mad. 

473
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:11,480
So I love how you also said this
is going to go open up a little 

474
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,080
another door. 
OK, You had a different room. 

475
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,360
OK, That is very big. 
So y'all set boundaries when 

476
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:19,960
y'all were dating. 
Can we talk about those 

477
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,680
boundaries? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

478
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,320
Thank you. 
Yeah, go ahead. 

479
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,400
Tell us a little bit about the 
boundaries that y'all set. 

480
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,720
Well, you're not married till 
you're married. 

481
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,640
So you don't you don't 
Playhouse, you know, that's a 

482
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,000
that is safe. 
Like even even when we were 

483
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,480
engaged, we bought a house 
together and I lived there. 

484
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,160
She did not move in until the 
day we were married, like that 

485
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,720
night. 
And so it was just we tried to 

486
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,240
be as biblical as possible with 
it. 

487
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,400
I mean, we would if if we went 
on vacation that we never slept 

488
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,720
in the same bed or not, we'd go 
on, we went on a few cruises. 

489
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,640
We were in separate bed. 
I mean, none of that stuff 

490
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:00,320
would. 
It just wasn't a thing. 

491
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,360
Did y'all like like these 
guardrails of like because did 

492
00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,400
you have your own house or did 
you live with people when you 

493
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,400
were dating? 
OK, but like you didn't stay the

494
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,480
night you didn't like after a 
certain hour it's like, hey, we 

495
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,440
got to go on home like all this 
stuff. 

496
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,240
And so y'all set these and were 
y'all always kind of with other 

497
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,800
people in the dating when y'all 
were dating? 

498
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,680
Especially early on, yeah, as we
as we got closer to like the 

499
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,400
engagement part, there would be 
some time where we would be 

500
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,080
separate, but it was be even be 
like, it would be like, hey, 

501
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,320
where at her parents house or, 
or where? 

502
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,680
At I lived with my parents, 
yeah, so and he lived with 

503
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,400
people. 
So very rarely were were we ever

504
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,160
like in the house by ourselves, 
you know what I'm saying? 

505
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,760
It's just so important. 
Yes, yes. 

506
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,960
And that, that helped a lot. 
And we're very involved in our 

507
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,600
church. 
He was in small group, I was in 

508
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,720
small group. 
And so just having 

509
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,000
accountability too. 
Yes, because there's so many 

510
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,200
times they're like, well, we can
just hang out, you know, like 

511
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,720
whatever. 
But when you're one-on-one, like

512
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,160
there's just not accountability 
there. 

513
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,400
It is a slippery slope. 
And so I always love when we get

514
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,800
these conversations going of set
the guardrails further than what

515
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,680
you think. 
Like just in case. 

516
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,440
In case you do hit it, you can 
still get. 

517
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,960
You ain't even close, you know? 
I talked to my 8th grade boys 

518
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,160
about like when Daniel's in 
captivity and how like he's 

519
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,680
willing to change his name, but 
he's not willing to eat the food

520
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,560
right. 
So you have to have something 

521
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,000
set up ahead of time. 
You have to pre prepare for the 

522
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,960
moments because if not, you're 
going to make the wrong 

523
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,560
decision. 
That's good. 

524
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,960
Did y'all have those 
conversations kind of early on? 

525
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040
Oh, yeah, that part of walking 
through the book, I, I think it 

526
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,560
was a mingling of souls or 
something like that. 

527
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,440
What you name of the book? 
Yeah. 

528
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,200
And, and it was, and it was 
really walking through like, 

529
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,640
like, like Song of Solomon and 
like, what does it look like to 

530
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,280
like love somebody godly or in a
godly way? 

531
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,680
And, and it was very early on we
talked about, we're not going to

532
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,600
do this. 
This is OK, this is not OK, this

533
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,000
is OK, This is not OK. 
And, and it was, and it was more

534
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,200
organic anyway. 
It was because both of us wanted

535
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,320
to be respectful to the Lord and
to. 

536
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,520
The other persons, right. 
That's so important, that's so 

537
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,440
important. 
And you know, living together 

538
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,680
before marriage, it like there's
people that are listening to 

539
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,720
this that are probably in this 
season and just like if you are 

540
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240
playing house, why not make it 
official? 

541
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,840
You know, why continuously, you 
know, disobey what the Lord's 

542
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,000
calling us to do. 
If y'all are together and y'all 

543
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,440
are living together and y'all 
are seeking, you know, this life

544
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,880
together, just go ahead and get 
married, you know? 

545
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480
You know, I, I don't know. 
Do you know Josh Howerton is the

546
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,360
pastor? 
I do not. 

547
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,040
Is that y'all's new pastor? 
No, no, no, no. 

548
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,760
He's, he's a, he's, I mean, he's
a pastor at a big church and 

549
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520
they just had, he just preached 
a sermon on this like 3 weeks 

550
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,960
ago and like 2 weeks later they 
had like this massive marriage 

551
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,680
thing at their church where they
married like 52 couples. 

552
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,000
What he? 
Preached. 

553
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,920
On cohabitation. 
And he was like, if you're going

554
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,400
to do it, let's do it. 
And then. 

555
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,480
Dang, so let's go right now. 
It is. 

556
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,320
And you know, it's just, it's a 
hard line because I never want 

557
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,960
to come off condemning in any 
way if I never want people to be

558
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480
like they're trying to, you 
know, make me feel bad or 

559
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,360
whatever. 
And I'm not like, I just want 

560
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:17,640
you to do what's right with the 
Lord and. 

561
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,320
And there's so much freedom 
there, and that's why, you know,

562
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,200
'cause we've experienced it, we 
want you to. 

563
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,280
Experience absolutely because me
and my husband we live together 

564
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,680
prior not don't condone. 
Now that was BC and so I you 

565
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,400
know and I wanted to get married
for so long prior and my mom 

566
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280
would always say why would he 
buy the cow when he gets the 

567
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,640
milk for pray you know all this 
stuff and I'm like now it makes 

568
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,840
a lot of sense back then I'm 
like you're just being old like 

569
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,760
you're so outdated you don't 
even understand people do this. 

570
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,400
You got to you got to you know 
live with somebody before you 

571
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,720
and that's not it because if 
you're building this foundation 

572
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,360
when y'all come together and the
Lord truly is the center, it's 

573
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,760
going to it's going to work. 
You know it's going to be hard 

574
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,160
still. 
He is the foundation. 

575
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800
Yeah, exactly. 
And he blesses obedience. 

576
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Yes, period. 
Yeah, so going from that, what 

577
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,480
what? 
I don't want to say what advice,

578
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:19,920
but where would y'all like to go
talking to married couples More 

579
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,960
so because at the end I'm going 
to ask you my 3 questions and 

580
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,480
that is advice. 
So you might want to give it 

581
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,400
there. 
But like what is some stuff that

582
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,240
you would want young couples, 
older couples that are, you 

583
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,480
know, trying to have the Lord 
first? 

584
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,240
What are some advice and things 
that y'all have done to tell 

585
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,840
them I rambled right there I'm. 
Well, I would say, I would say 

586
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,240
first and foremost, have a 
relationship with the Lord and 

587
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800
make sure that's solid. 
Like it's OK to have a season of

588
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,240
singleness. 
Mine was very long and and in 

589
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,480
that I got closer to the Lord 
and, and got to know who I was 

590
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,560
because I've got to know whose I
was. 

591
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,920
And so like, that was a big deal
for me was being in a position 

592
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,280
to be the man, the godly man 
that a spouse would need, that 

593
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,280
Lindsay would need. 
And so I would say that first 

594
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,680
and foremost is make sure that 
you are rooted and that you are 

595
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,200
growing. 
Yeah, and I would say too young 

596
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,760
married couple get involved in 
church and have that community 

597
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,360
of, you know, accountability and
you know, the best thing I can 

598
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,160
do for Joey and my family is 
spend time with the Lord, right 

599
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,640
and grow in my relationship with
him. 

600
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,880
And, you know, get your family 
in church. 

601
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,480
You know, even if it's the two 
of you, you guys are a family 

602
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:41,720
get evolved and you know, seek 
counsel and advice from older 

603
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,760
couples and have older couples 
in your life that can give you 

604
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280
that advice and walk alongside 
you. 

605
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:53,200
I think that's important. 
I recently went and have like a 

606
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,440
little brunch with like 5 
different brides that are 

607
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,840
getting married and one of the 
things that I think I've learned

608
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,920
in marriage, I've learned the 
hard way is just to communicate 

609
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,680
communication, yes, and just to 
communicate your needs because I

610
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,080
think as women, we think that 
our culture tells us that men 

611
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,240
should be able to read our minds
and I'm. 

612
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Not good at it. 
If he really loves you then he 

613
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,680
can read your mind. 
Like, that's so false. 

614
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,600
That's not true. 
And, you know, or you think, 

615
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,680
well, we've been together, you 
know, for almost 10 years now. 

616
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,960
You should be able to know what 
I'm thinking. 

617
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,240
You should know what to say in 
this moment. 

618
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520
And like, they don't. 
That's putting too much on them.

619
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,400
It is go. 
Ahead guys, don't pay attention 

620
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,840
to that much stuff, I'll be 
honest with you. 

621
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,480
But like, she'll wear a shirt 
and I'll be like, that's a nice 

622
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,400
shirt. 
You're like, yeah, I've worn it 

623
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560
like 12 times, like. 
Oh, it's not new. 

624
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,240
Yeah. 
Oh, OK, So ladies, we don't know

625
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,320
what you're thinking. 
Ever. 

626
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,440
Yeah. 
And so I have learned just to 

627
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,240
communicate my expectations, I 
guess, instead of having 

628
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,480
expectations in my mind that I 
think he's going to meet, that 

629
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,840
he might not meet, not 
necessarily his fault. 

630
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,560
I just have to communicate to 
him what I am expecting or what 

631
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,440
I want or what I need, and vice 
versa, too. 

632
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,120
And so I think that's one big 
thing that that I've learned and

633
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,920
that the Lord has convicted me 
of and shown me. 

634
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Yeah. 
And to and one last thing kind 

635
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280
of tying into that would be find
other godly friends. 

636
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,200
Yeah, people that you want your 
kids to grow up around, who 

637
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,800
might have kids their age so 
that they can have, I'm not 

638
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,120
saying everybody has to have 
nothing but godly friends. 

639
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,960
We should certainly be solemn 
like to other kids to have a 

640
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,960
group of friends that they can 
lean on to hold them 

641
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,280
accountable. 
And when things get difficult, 

642
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,120
then they have some people that 
can run back to to to do life 

643
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,040
with. 
No doubt when you said not just 

644
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,360
you know your Christian friends 
like you need to be teaching 

645
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,160
other people about the Lord. 
You need to be showing shining 

646
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,920
that. 
I was that kid kid that got 

647
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,640
chased down by friends in high 
school and so my kids will never

648
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,440
not know those kids. 
Absolutely. 

649
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,880
I think about that for me and 
Lindsay, because she truly was a

650
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,760
light to me in high school. 
You and your sister and just all

651
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,880
these other people. 
And I'm like, I remember 

652
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,920
thinking like wow, y'all got it 
going on, you know, y'all are 

653
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,720
close to the Lord and here I am 
out and on a Friday night, you 

654
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,320
know, like all this stuff. 
And just like I just, you 

655
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,920
planted so many seeds that I 
never even knew were seeds until

656
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,280
this at this point. 
And like it's just you never 

657
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,960
know where you're throwing and 
tossing those seeds. 

658
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200
You never know where they're 
going to stick and land and all 

659
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,000
this stuff. 
So it is important to not just 

660
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,200
be in those, you know, friend 
groups that are just seeking the

661
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,720
Lord, but also now don't be 
running and everything, but 

662
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,240
still pouring into other people,
right? 

663
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Yeah, it is so. 
You're the influencer, you're 

664
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,400
not being influenced. 
No doubt because I there's a, 

665
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,600
there's a fine line sometimes 
because I work at the church, 

666
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,960
you work at your church in FCA 
and all this stuff. 

667
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,240
It's like a bubble, right? 
And sometimes I'm like, hang on,

668
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,280
I'm around all these people that
already know the Lord, Like 

669
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,640
where am I doing the Lord's 
work? 

670
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,840
If I'm just around people, that 
right, you know, yeah, we're 

671
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,520
sharpening each other's iron, 
but we need to be sharing. 

672
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,960
It can get, it can make life 
seem easy because you're 

673
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,200
surrounded by people who are 
just like minded as you. 

674
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,520
And then like, I'll venture off 
into Northside High School and 

675
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,600
it'll, it's a totally different 
world there. 

676
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,920
And so even, like, I'll come 
home to just talk about stories 

677
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440
from school and it'll blow 
Lindsay's mind, but she's been 

678
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920
at the church all day. 
And that's one of the reasons 

679
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,920
because I work at Mercer too, 
like taking photos of the sports

680
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,760
and stuff. 
And, and I'm, I was in the 

681
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,760
dugout and just around some of 
the teams and stuff and I'm 

682
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:40,000
like, Oh my gosh, like I, I'm so
like unaware of how people talk 

683
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,560
and stuff now. 
And I'm like, wait a minute, the

684
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,320
songs, everything. 
I'm like, can I tell you all 

685
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,320
about Jesus? 
Which, you know, it's just a 

686
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,320
great opportunity because I have
had so many conversations there 

687
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,480
because on my camera bag, like I
have like Jesus is King and the 

688
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,680
praises and the pot and they're 
like, what are the stickers on 

689
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,120
your bag? 
And so it's just a great 

690
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,880
conversation, you know, So yeah,
we're going to get ready to shut

691
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:03,880
it down. 
OK? 

692
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,199
But I asked three questions. 
Typically y'all kind of did give

693
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,239
advice, but if y'all want to 
talk some more advice, that's 

694
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,840
perfectly fine. 
But maybe you wanted to talk 

695
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,520
about something very specific 
when you came here and I haven't

696
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,880
gave you the opportunity to kind
of do so or advice to whoever, 

697
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,600
wherever, whatever you want to 
talk about. 

698
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,440
Or what's something that God's 
revealed to you more recently? 

699
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,440
OK, so when I say revealed to 
you more recently, like the 

700
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,639
light bulb went off, like I know
the other day I was, oh, hang 

701
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:35,960
on. 
I actually do really want to 

702
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,000
read this because this is mine. 
I never give my own eyes 

703
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,800
revealed to me, but I would love
to. 

704
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,239
OK, hang on one second, one 
second. 

705
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,679
OK. 
So the other day I did a live 

706
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:53,360
podcast and with our young 
adults at Southside and one of 

707
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,280
the conversations we're having 
with suicide. 

708
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:01,640
And that is something that I 
struggle understanding when 

709
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,000
people talk to me about, like, I
struggle because I always go 

710
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,880
with that. 
The light in the dark, they 

711
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,120
can't mix. 
And so if you're saved, how how 

712
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,200
are you having these thoughts? 
You know, like, and it's so not 

713
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,520
correct, right? 
Like I'm not taking away from 

714
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,520
their thoughts. 
I just can't understand. 

715
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,680
And so one of our leaders texted
me and he said or he said it out

716
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,120
loud and then he texted it to me
and he said people say that 

717
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,960
light and darkness can't 
coincide each other, but with 

718
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,160
suicide and self harm, it's not 
trying to get the darkness out 

719
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,920
of you. 
You're fighting to get out of 

720
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,440
the darkness. 
And I thought that was so good 

721
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,000
in a light bulb truly did click 
for me because I'm like, wait, 

722
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,040
the darkness isn't necessarily 
inside. 

723
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Like you're in the darkness and 
you can't get out, like you're 

724
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,240
trying to fight to get out of 
it. 

725
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,880
And so that is something that 
I've been wanting to share on 

726
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,560
here and I haven't got. 
So there we go. 

727
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,840
That way you said that because I
was just having a similar 

728
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,560
conversation like last week. 
Really. 

729
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,440
Yeah, that's why I said that. 
But that's. 

730
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,320
Cool. 
OK, I think you should tell. 

731
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,000
Because I think this is cool. 
Sorry. 

732
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Go ahead, girl. 
Tell about how you got saved 

733
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,960
through FDA and like that full 
circle yes, that's. 

734
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:12,080
Yeah, absolutely. 
So growing up in I went to 

735
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,760
Northern high School and has we 
got ahead again and trying to be

736
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,320
all things, all people for 
myself selfishly, I've got my, 

737
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,480
my good friends, my bad friends 
and my, my hooligan friends and 

738
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,040
all these things. 
And my, my, I had some friends 

739
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,040
that from baseball that went to 
FCA regularly and would invite 

740
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,280
me all the time. 
And I didn't want to come 

741
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840
because it was too early in the 
morning and I didn't want to get

742
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,920
to school till right when it 
started. 

743
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:43,600
But then when it we've got to be
junior year, I'm 171617 years 

744
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,640
old now and I don't, I don't 
have a car because my dad said I

745
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,000
can't have a car till I can buy 
it myself. 

746
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,640
And and I don't want to ride a 
bus. 

747
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,480
They some of my friends like, 
well, I'll take you to school, 

748
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,320
man, but you're coming to FCA 
period. 

749
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Dang, so pridefully because I 
don't want to be on a bus. 

750
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,400
I go. 
So it's funny how the Lord uses 

751
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,040
my pride to get me into FCA and 
then I start hearing about like 

752
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,640
grace and redemption and all 
this stuff that I hadn't really 

753
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,080
known much about. 
And, and then Fast forward, I 

754
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
know we're cutting it short, but
Fast forward a year of being 

755
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,600
involved in FCAI ain't sitting 
in the back no more. 

756
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,640
I'm kind of moving my way up to 
the front and, and I'm and I'm 

757
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,920
just soaking in what they're 
talking about, but I don't, I 

758
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160
kind of understand it because I 
have the faith background of who

759
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Jesus was and I understand 
salvation, but I don't know what

760
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,440
that looks like in this, in this
area. 

761
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,520
And we go to the South side 
thing and the Lord just wrecks 

762
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360
my life right there in the best 
way possible. 

763
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,280
I, I give my life to the Lord of
this event and, and then Fast 

764
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,560
forward through all the things. 
Now I'm the FCA leader at 

765
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,400
Northside High School. 
Yeah. 

766
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,800
And so, so the so the Lord uses 
my pride to put me in a place to

767
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,600
bring me to my knees to 
surrender my life to him. 

768
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,160
And now I have the same 
opportunity to share the same 

769
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,520
Jesus with the same group of 
kids at, at Northside. 

770
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,320
And, and so it's just really 
God's grace in my life is I, I 

771
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,800
just look back to the, to the 
crazy kid I was. 

772
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,040
I'm just like, man, if, and, but
now I get to talk to those kids 

773
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,880
everyday, those same kids who 
were me and I get to tell them 

774
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,080
like, like perfection is not a 
thing. 

775
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:20,840
Well, for one person it was and,
and, and for so long I thought 

776
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,680
there was like this standard to 
me. 

777
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,520
And I knew I could never meet 
that standard. 

778
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,000
And so I just kind of rejected 
religion in general. 

779
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,960
And so now the Lord's given me 
the opportunity to share and be 

780
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,480
a light in a in a dark place. 
How crazy one invite or not even

781
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,040
really an invite. 
It's like, dude, if you're going

782
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,240
to ride with me, you're kind of 
sad and then you don't even 

783
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,440
really like surrender that day, 
that month, that that whatever, 

784
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,320
it's like later down the line, 
but you continuously kept going.

785
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,560
Wow, you know, and. 
I just and it's and the dudes 

786
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,840
that I'll shout him out. 
Joseph Bentz, he was he just 

787
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,320
stayed on me consistently, 
persistently. 

788
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,560
We've been since elementary 
school and and he got me there 

789
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,760
and he kept me there and 
amazing. 

790
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,960
And now we get to hang out in 
heaven forever, Amy. 

791
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,720
I love that. 
Yes, so cool. 

792
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:11,040
What do you want to share, 
Lindsay? 

793
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:15,680
Gosh, I feel like recently the 
Lord has just, and it's so 

794
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:21,200
basic, but he's just been 
reminding me that the world's 

795
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,480
just so crazy. 
The world's crazy right now. 

796
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,160
It's crazy all the time and our 
lives are crazy. 

797
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,480
You know, he's coaching. 
I'm mom of two toddlers. 

798
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,440
It's just crazy. 
And it's easy to get lost in the

799
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,680
shuffle. 
We serve at church a lot. 

800
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,280
You know, we just have so much 
going on. 

801
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,600
God just keeps reminding me, 
like Lindsay, the only thing 

802
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,520
that matters in this life is 
what you do with Jesus. 

803
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,200
And so I just feel like every 
day I'm just reminding myself or

804
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,320
he's reminding me of that. 
And it's really just keep the 

805
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,440
main thing, the main thing and 
that, but I'm tempted to be 

806
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,640
tired or have a short fuse with 
my kids or with Joey or just 

807
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,240
whatever it might be. 
God just reminds me like, keep 

808
00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:11,520
the main thing, the main thing, 
like, and you don't have to get 

809
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,240
all the things done, you know, 
like just keep the main thing, 

810
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,000
the main thing. 
And that is what you do with 

811
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,520
Jesus is what matters. 
And I try to keep that at the 

812
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,440
forefront of the, of my mind for
my kids too. 

813
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,200
And that's what I've kind of 
started praying for them 

814
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
recently. 
It's just that. 

815
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,000
Or would you reveal yourself to 
them and when you do what they 

816
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,440
be obedient? 
Because what I do with Jesus, 

817
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,480
what they do with Jesus, is all 
that really matters in this 

818
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,720
life. 
My mom said this more recently. 

819
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,920
If I you're talking about the 
main thing. 

820
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,560
OK, so the main thing, right? 
If a good thing becomes the main

821
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:51,360
thing, it's a bad thing. 
And so we can do all this stuff 

822
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,120
for the Lord. 
We can sit on this podcast and 

823
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,480
all this stuff, but if he's not 
the main thing, then 

824
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,480
everything's a bad thing. 
And so just keeping him at the 

825
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,120
forefront. 
And you started that sentence 

826
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,600
with actually like, it's so 
basic. 

827
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,160
And sometimes we got to go back 
to the back and a lot of people,

828
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,080
just like Joey said, salvation 
came and he didn't know what 

829
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,120
else to do. 
Some people been walking, you 

830
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,440
know, trying to figure out what 
to do and we got to teach them 

831
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,000
the basics and the basic is keep
the main thing, the main thing, 

832
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,160
ask Jesus Christ. 
Absolutely. 

833
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,040
All right guys, y'all got any 
last remarks, final thoughts? 

834
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,280
Final thoughts, thanks for 
having us all here is awesome. 

835
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,280
Come back anytime. 
Oh my God. 

836
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,280
It's a privilege to be here and 
it's a privilege to see your 

837
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,280
story. 
It's truly, I love Ephesians 

838
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:38,720
320. 
God can do more than you can 

839
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,560
ask, think, or ever imagine. 
And like, I just see that in 

840
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920
your life. 
Girl, that's the first page of 

841
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:48,160
my book, really. 
I didn't like the scream in the 

842
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,280
mic, y'all, And that's crazy. 
That's what we were just talking

843
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:51,160
about, really. 
Yeah. 

844
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,320
I love the book and then cool, 
that's the first fight anyway 

845
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,760
y'all that's awesome. 
Anyway, this has been absolutely

846
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,240
great. 
If y'all have any marriage 

847
00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:02,240
questions I'm pretty sure that 
they would be open to their DMS.

848
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Like y'all sign in, you know, 
female, female, male, male. 

849
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,520
We are not perfect, but yes. 
They, you know, we just can tell

850
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,400
y'all what we've done, what not 
to do, what to do, you know 

851
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,800
stuff like that. 
Just what helped you know. 

852
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,960
So anyway, I hope you guys 
enjoyed this as much as I have 

853
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,000
Make sure you stay tuned. 
Stay blessed and we'll see you 

854
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,640
guys later. 
Bye bye.

