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What's up guys? 
My name's Alexis, your host of 

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Praises and the Pod, and I'm so 
excited to be here with Rachel 

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Ferreiras today. 
We are going to be talking about

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her testimony, everything in 
between, and just what God has 

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done in your life. 
So we're super excited about it.

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We're going to start off in 
prayer and then we're going to 

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jump right in. 
So here we go. 

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Lord, Heavenly Father, thank you
for today and all of your many 

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blessings. 
Dear God, thank you for bringing

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us here where we can talk about 
your goodness and your 

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faithfulness and what all you 
have done in our lives. 

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No matter what, no matter 
valley, no matter no matter 

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where we are in life, we know 
that you are right there beside 

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us and we are just so thankful 
for that. 

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We pray that you speak to us and
through US today and let this 

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episode glorify you. 
In Jesus name I pray Amen, Amen.

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Amen. 
Rachel. 

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All right, so let's jump right 
in. 

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I mean, let's start around your 
childhood. 

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Tell us a little bit about how 
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Grew up OK. 
What's the youngest of three 

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kids? 
There was a big age difference 

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between me and my siblings. 
They were 13 and 15. 

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I always laugh and say, yeah, I 
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That's a big age gap. 
It was a big age, Yeah. 

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My dad was a state trooper, and 
my mom kind of realized that she

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was 16 to me home by herself, 
and she was young when she had 

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my sister. 
That's the oldest. 

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And so she said, hey, let's have
a baby. 

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Yeah. 
So wow, back then, you know, 

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that was considered way advanced
maternal age for her, for her at

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the time, but that I was totally
planned. 

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And of course, they always had 
to pick on me about that. 

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But I grew up in a small world 
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OK. 
My grandparents were next door. 

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So we were always a tight knit 
family. 

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And my other grandparents lived 
about 15 minutes away. 

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So we would have lunch with them
every other Sunday. 

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And just, you know, lots of 
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in town. 
My parents were Christians. 

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We raised in a Christian home. 
They were not always active, but

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that was with my dad working, as
I said, a state trooper. 

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His shift changed every 28 days,
so it was very inconsistent with

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his time off. 
Yeah, for that makes sense. 

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Yeah, but. 
I mean, a lot of people relate 

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to that, like a lot of people, 
you know, believe in God, they 

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trust in God, maybe they read 
devotions at home, but they're 

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not actively going to church. 
And so that's basically what 

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you're saying is like your 
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stuff but y'all weren't actively
in the church. 

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We were correct at the time. 
And then when I hit middle 

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school, I got like, well, I want
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lot of a lot positive peer 
pressure, yes, with friends. 

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And so my mom would get me up or
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I would actually get myself up 
and then say, Mama, will you 

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drive me to church before I 
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And she would drive me and drop 
me off and then come back and 

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pick me up. 
They love that. 

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And we'll so she would do the 
shuffle and then we would talk 

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about it. 
A lot of times she would listen 

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on the radio. 
Yeah, and at this time, your 

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older siblings are probably. 
Out of the house now they're 

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they've they've been gone my 
brother he graduated from high 

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school in May and I started 
kindergarten in August wow and 

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my. 
Sister, you're an only child. 

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I was an only child and and 
quite spoiled, you know, with 

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grandparents next door and then 
my siblings, my sister was in, 

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she stayed in town and she was 
the one that was 15 years older.

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Yeah, I bet she acted like you 
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She did. 
At times she did. 

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Yeah. 
But we had, you know, and we 

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have. 
We were not close then, but 

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we're closer now. 
Oh, good. 

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We're closer. 
We're closer now, all. 

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Right, so middle school, you 
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do you get saved around that 
same time? 

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Or I was saved actually as a as 
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child, as a small child, and 
then just kind of drifted back 

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and forth. 
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experience at camps and 
different things and then got a 

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little older and, and still just
kind of like, well, I guess I'll

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just go by myself. 
But then just had good friends 

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and and cousin, I had a cousin. 
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And she lived 15 miles away. 
So I would do a lot with her and

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her, her, they, she, she went to
a bigger church. 

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So I would drive over now that I
could drive because Mama wasn't 

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driving me that far. 
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She was like, you got a car. 
You got a car, you can go and 

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you can pay for young guy. 
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And so we did, and. 
Nice. 

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So after graduation, let's talk 
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adulthood and what that looks 
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Just just when I would say just 
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continued in church, stayed very
active because now I'm on my 

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own, still living at home, but 
on my own kind of thing. 

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And then my husband and I, we 
actually met the day after my 

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21st birthday. 
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And so I always laughed and said
he was the birthday present. 

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I could never get back. 
Get back, guys. 30 something 

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years later, he's we're he's, 
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celebrating that birthday. 
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Yeah. 
It's such a huge accomplishment.

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Why is Yeah is a story in 
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It is it, It really is. 
And that goes into part of my 

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story. 
We moved to Warner Robins, our 

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boys. 
So we we got married, we met in 

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92, got married in 93 and then 
our children were born in 95 and

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99. 
I had one of this 1999 babies. 

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Right on the cuff. 
Right on December of 99. 

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Oh, really? 
On the cuff. 

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Really. 
On the cuff, yeah, I had an old 

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not, not 9596. 
We had an Olympic baby and then 

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we had a 1999. 
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So how did y'all end up in 
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Robins, my husband's work move 
just We could live anywhere we 

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wanted to in his territory. 
And y'all chose here. 

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And we did. 
We we were in Atlanta and we 

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were trying to get closer to 
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And originally we were looking 
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And then he realized that he 
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Warner Robins. 
And so it just we it took nine 

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months for our house to sell 
cause the market was not like it

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was these days. 
Now you put a house on the 

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market, it's. 
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You better have a plan. 
Yep, you better have a plan. 

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And our house. 
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we didn't move until October. 
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year, our oldest was in second 
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I said something at at church 
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parents church. 
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So it's just my mom and she's 
gotten more involved now at this

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point. 
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and I said something at church 
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They had asked me about the 
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I said, oh, I won't be here. 
We're going to be gone lately, 

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we'll not be here. 
Count me out. 

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But we started praying 
specifically for our house, not 

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for house to sell, but for the 
family that God had planned for 

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that to be their home. 
We at which flipped it instead 

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of God, we need to sell this 
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You know, help us to sell this 
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God show us who shows clear the 
path for who's home this is 

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supposed to be. 
That's beautiful. 

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And within like 2 weeks, then we
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Wow. 
And that's where it got even 

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crazy or was a pastor that 
bought the house and they're 

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still in it. 
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And they layers are they let it,
they're still in it. 

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So we so we moved down here. 
We picked Houston County because

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of schools. 
We were coming from North Cobb 

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and so we had amazing schools up
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That year, a Cobb County school 
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high school in the country and 
Houston County had actually 

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outscored them on their test 
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Wow. 
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that's that's the one. 
That's where we're going to be. 

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That's what we picked. 
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I worked S Marietta Square. 
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Kennesaw. 
So we had all that pretty part 

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of of Tom County. 
The first time I came to look at

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houses, Scott showed me the 
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That the base end of Watson. 
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And I'm like, I can't live here.
The same end. 

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It's just not where I want to 
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Yeah. 
But God had another plan, and He

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knew exactly right where we were
supposed to be. 

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Because then, as you not 
talking, you know, in 2006, our 

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lives changed. 
We were. 

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Yep. 
So let's go ahead and jump to 

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2000. 
And six, we're, we are living, 

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we are living our best lives. 
My husband's job is better than 

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it's ever been. 
Boys are doing great in school. 

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Joseph was in 4th grade, John 
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I'm 7 doing PTO room mom, all 
those things, just living our 

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best life. 
And then in November of actually

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2005, I had noticed a change in 
my breast and I showed it to my 

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husband and he's like, I don't 
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And he just brushed his teeth 
and went lid. 

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Fast forward to February and 
we're all getting, we're getting

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ready for bed one night And he 
was like, I had gotten out of 

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the shower and he's like, he 
pointed at me and he said that 

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doesn't look right. 
And what I had, what I saw in 

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November had grown tremendously 
from by the end of February. 

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So I told him, So I'm not really
worried about it. 

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I'm going next week to my OBGYN 
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I'll get them to look at it. 
I'm sure it's nothing. 

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I'm only 35. 
I was just about to ask how old 

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you are then I was, well, I was 
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next month. 
And so I go and the doctor, his 

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oh, you're too young. 
Don't worry about it. 

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I did convince him to do a 
mammogram and that came back 

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completely normal. 
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it's OK to say this. 
We're we're, we're female. 

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This is a good space. 
My nipple had completely 

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inverted on one side. 
I mean completely, completely. 

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So we did a mammogram that came 
back normal and I'm like, oh, 

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OK, well, my nipple is inverting
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And I was sitting at Soccer 
Mother boys were practicing one 

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night and I was talking to a 
friend who's a nurse. 

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And I told her what was going on
because I said the doctor says 

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it's normal. 
The mammogram says it's normal, 

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but this doesn't feel normal. 
And she said, I don't think so 

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either. 
She said, I think you need to go

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see somebody else. 
So I went to my primary care and

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I showed her. 
And she's like, I don't know. 

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And her office she was building 
and she had a so she was in a 

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temporary office. 
And her nurse would stay in 

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front of the door because the 
door for that exam room was 

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right by the lobby. 
So the nurse would always stand 

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in front of the door. 
So that way if somebody yeah, 

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opened it, they didn't, they 
didn't come in. 

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And so after she did her exam, 
she said, would you mind if I 

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have my nurse to do another 
breast exam? 

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And I said sure, you know, I 
don't care if I had kids. 

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I don't care at this point. 
Multiple people's multiple, 

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multiple at this point. 
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And so she's and I love this 
doctor. 

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And she said, I'm not going to 
tell you to worry about it 

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because that's my job, but I 
want to send you to somebody 

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that knows more about this than 
I do. 

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And we're going to let them look
at it. 

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And I said, OK, still not 
worried, Still calm, cool. 

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Still calm, cool, collected. 
My mom came up to go with me and

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he that's right. 
And my dad, my dad was still 

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living at that point. 
So they both so they came dad 

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was off with the boys, mom was 
with me and I am there for 

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hours. 
I mean 4 hours because they I 

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see the doctor, he does another 
exam and then he says let's do a

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mammogram. 
I want to compare. 

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So he they do the and, but 
you're going to wait. 

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You're going to wait. 
You're going to sit here. 

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So I waited and I did the 
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came back in and said, don't get
dressed yet. 

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We're going to go do an 
ultrasound. 

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And OK, so I go and do the 
ultrasound and I'm laying on the

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table, my arms up over my head 
and I look at the technician and

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it was not a technician, it was 
the radiologist. 

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And then I'm like, that's the 
radiologist, Yeah, doing that, 

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you know, that kind of shit. 
I started getting a little 

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worried. 
Yeah. 

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And I go back to my room and 
they finally say you can get 

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dressed and the doctor comes in 
and he says well I'm going to 

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give you 2 choices but you 
really only have one. 

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We can redo all of this in six 
months or we can do a biopsy 

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next week and find out what's 
going on. 

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So my response was what day? 
Yeah, what day? 

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And my poor sweet mom, she said,
do you need to talk to Scott 

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about that? 
And I said no, because I know 

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his answer. 
I know he's going to say go 

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ahead and get it scheduled. 
So we did, went home that 

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weekend for a family wedding, 
came back, had the biopsy on a 

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Friday, and then we were leaving
for the beach on Saturday. 

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But I can, I persuaded the 
doctor to call me. 

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I said, I don't want to wait, 
call me and let me know. 

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Especially leaving that and 
coming back a week later. 

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I'm sure that was very nerve 
wracking. 

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It was it was a long, it was a 
long week at the beach. 

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It was a long week. 
And he said, well, I'll have the

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results by Tuesday. 
And I said, OK, so this was in 

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two that now 2006 the boys had 
just finished school. 

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So we were all this Friday, end 
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grade, end of the year, 
kindergarten, we go to the beach

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and I'm getting my bathing suit.
Only one of the boys notices my 

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bandage on my bathing suit and 
like, what's that for? 

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Like mommy's got a Boo Boo. 
Nothing to worry about. 

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This was also the year after 
Hurricane Katrina and we had 

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done a lot to help people here 
that had evacuated from New 

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Orleans and Louisiana there. 
And so that year there was a 

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heavy forecast for hurricanes. 
There were no hurricanes and 

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that hit our area that year. 
However, on that Tuesday, June 

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13th, 2006, a tropical storm hit
Myrtle Beach, SC. 

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While we are there. 
While we were there and that's 

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the day I'm getting the phone 
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So that morning we get up 
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coming in. 
That afternoon. 

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We go down to the beach and I 
literally have my phone in my 

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bathing suit because I don't 
want to miss the phone call. 

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And we play it. 
We play at the beach. 

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Then we get dressed, we go to 
the boardwalk and we're walking 

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around the boardwalk because 
can't go to the beach. 

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It's raining, it's drizzling. 
And if you know my husband, he 

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is, we, we tease him that he's 
so tight he squeaks when he 

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walks. 
But that's a good thing. 

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It's a good thing and still a 
phone call. 

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Still no phone calls way after 
lunch, still no phone call. 

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And there was a a photo booth 
that has the green screen and 

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they have the surf shirts and 
surfboards. 

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Well, there's nobody taking 
pictures because it's raining. 

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And he the photographer emotions
to my husband and says, hey, 

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come over here, come over here. 
I'll give you a picture if y'all

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will take a picture, because if 
I'm taking pictures then it 

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looks like we're then I'm busier
and you get a free souvenir and 

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he's like hey, free souvenir 
chat. 

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Yeah, that sounds. 
Good. 

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So he's doing that with the boys
and that that's exactly when my 

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phone rang. 
And that was totally a God thing

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that we were standing there. 
He had no one. 

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So that way my boys were 
distracted. 

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Yeah, because they don't know 
anything at this point. 

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And the surgery calls. 
I step over and I'm standing 

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under the awning of a building. 
And he says, Rachel, you've got 

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breast cancer. 
And he said, but we think we've 

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caught it early, and if you have
to have it, it's the best kind 

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to have. 
And tears are rolling down my 

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face and my husband looks at me 
and I start shaking my head. 

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And then he knows there are no 
work. 

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We don't have to say anything. 
He can tell by the look on my 

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face what's going on. 
And we walk around. 

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We just keep going. 
Later we learned that miss Miss 

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Mona, brother Dennis Revere too.
And they were like 5 steps ahead

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of us everywhere we went that 
day. 

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But I always talked about, but 
I've told my story before about 

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how the rain was drizzling, so 
everybody looked awful. 

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Nobody knew I was crying because
they all look like I did too. 

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And so but we continue our 
vacation. 

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I'm just like, I'm just sitting 
here and I'm like, that is just 

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so hard to hear when you're 35 
years old. 35 and just being 

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with a six year old and a nine 
year old, yes, just being like 

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freshly with young kids, you 
know, like so much and so 

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scared, probably like your 
emotions are just like probably 

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numb now that moment. 
Yeah Yep. 

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We called my parents and told 
them and I called my my little 

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circle of friends. 
It just so happened that they 

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were all together that night. 
And so I could tell everybody at

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one time. 
Yeah. 

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And I didn't have to call 5 
different people. 

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This is when you when you're 
texting, you pay per text. 

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I kind of asked y'all were 
together. 

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So it was a good thing that 
everybody was together, but only

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our only our our inner circle 
knew. 

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Not everybody knew yet. 
Of course. 

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We called brother Jerry. 
Yeah, and told him and told him.

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So we finished our vacation, we 
come home on Sunday and then we 

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go to the doctor and they decide
to do a lumpectomy. 

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So my original tumor was 2 1/2 
centimeters. 

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And like a big grape. 
Yeah, kind of like a big grape. 

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And then they go out five 
centimeters, so a half dollar 

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size and they cannot get a clear
margin. 

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The Sentinel node, which is what
is called, which is what that's 

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the lymph node that's closest to
the tumor. 

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It was grossly diseased to the 
naked eye. 

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It had tumors growing out of it.
So he basically glued me up and 

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put me in recovery and went and 
told my husband that it was more

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advanced than he thought. 
And what we thought was called 

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early ended up being stage 3C. 
Out of four, I had 25 lymph 

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nodes removed and thirteen of 
those were positive. 

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So the lumpectomy happened on a 
Friday and on Saturday I had my 

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meltdown. 
My parents are here again. 

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Only my inner circle knows. 
Do your boys know what the OK 

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still? 
Boys still don't know. 

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Boys still don't know. 
Just the inner circle knows. 

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And on Saturday, my niece had 
called and she's I was 12 when 

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she was born. 
So she's younger. 

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So I'm, you know, I'm her aunt, 
but I'm just like, yeah, when 

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you're only 12, just as well 
your age difference. 

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She called from Pennsylvania. 
And my husband had done a very 

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good job of protecting me. 
Where if you showed up at my 

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door and you were crying, he'd 
say, thank you so much for 

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coming by. 
We're going to let you come back

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later. 
He protected me. 

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But he was upstairs. 
He had gone into researcher 

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mode, and he is researching, 
Googling and, you know, full, 

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full, full mode of being a 
detective. 

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Yeah. 
The boys still don't know what's

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going on. 
And they just think, oh, maybe. 

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And Paw Paw are here and they're
just here longer than a weekend 

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kind of thing that my niece had 
called. 

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And that was the one with time 
that my husband couldn't protect

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me because then she lost it on 
the phone. 

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And I took the phone, thankfully
it was house phone at the time. 

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And I threw it across the room 
and it hit a wall and my mom's 

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picking up the phone because her
granddaughter's on the phone and

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she knows she's upset. 
And I take off running and I 

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fought down on my bed and I'm, 
and I, I lose it. 

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I lose it. 
And my dad comes running after 

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me. 
That's where I'm going to need 

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this. 
And he, he grabs me. 

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But you know, I'm, I'm daddy's 
girl. 

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And he holds me. 
And of course, and then Scott 

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has heard the noise and he comes
down and my daddy bushes me off 

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of him and hands me to my 
husband and my dad think it's to

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my mom because she needed, she 
needed him. 

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And no one might, no one might 
Addie. 

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I know that was so hard because 
he was supposed to be my 

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protector, but he knew that my 
husband, he knew. 

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He knew that that was that's 
what he had to do. 

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Yeah. 
That Scott called a friend of 

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ours that's a pharmacist because
they had given me something to 

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help me relax if I needed it and
I not taking anything at that 

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point. 
And so she because I was also on

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pain medicine and I had just 
taken pain medicine. 

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So he called her and said, can 
she take this with that? 

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And she said yes. 
And she said, and you need to 

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take one too. 
She could already tell. 

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Like you need to take one too. 
I'm not taking it. 

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I'm not taking it. 
I'm not taking it. 

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And I don't know if he did or 
not. 

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That's but he put me to bed 
because with, with the anxiety 

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medicine and the pain medicine, 
he, he put me to bed. 

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And then Sunday morning we get 
up and we go to church and I'm, 

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I'm just numb. 
I am more numb than I was that 

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the day that I got the phone 
call. 

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Because now I know it's way more
advanced, way more advanced. 

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Our message that Sundays when 
I'll never forget. 

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And it was about how we all go 
through dark times that God 

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sends someone to light the path 
out of our darkness. 

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And I felt like that message was
for me. 

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I mean, I'd say it was very dark
for me. 

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I sat there and when the altar 
call opened up, I went to the 

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altar, but I couldn't pray. 
I cried. 

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I cried, but I couldn't. 
I couldn't form words. 

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There was only one word that I 
could put together and that was 

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help. 
And then I could add help me. 

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And now in my inner circle, they
come and they pray over me. 

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Then I can still hear Miss 
Debbie praying about how God, 

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how God knew I was in a dark 
spot and that he would send 

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someone to light the path out of
that dark spot and that she was 

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praying for a miracle and she's 
praying for a miracle. 

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We go to lunch and while I was 
in the restroom, a friend looks 

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at my husband and says, right, 
Scott? 

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Rachel's face is very weak right
now. 

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And he said hello. 
And she's so wise. 

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She is so wise, one of the 
wisest people I've ever met. 

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And she looked at him and she 
said, but that's OK, wait, weak 

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faith is better than no faith. 
And she still has faith. 

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And he said, OK, you're right. 
So we go home again, he puts me 

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to bed because I need a nap. 
I'm worn out and while I'm 

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napping he's praying and he's 
researching. 

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His mom passed away a year after
we got married and we called her

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Angel and I had these little 
angels that were hers. 

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They were in both of our boys 
nurseries and when I woke up, he

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had gone and had moved those 
angels. 

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So they were the first thing 
that I saw when I woke up. 

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And then he tells me about the 
conversation about my faith 

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being linked. 
And I'm just listening because 

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I'm I had no words, if you know 
me at all, to know that I'm 

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speechless. 
People will. 

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Lie. 
Something's really wrong. 

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Something really wrong but I 
just listened. 

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We went back to church that 
night and our worship. 

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During our time of worship we 
sang 3 songs. 

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I surrender all just as I am and
my life is in your hands. 

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Wow, now. 
Do you again? 

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Again, this is just for me. 
Everybody else got the benefit. 

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Y'all are just here. 
Y'all are just here, me and God.

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Are on this white place God just
talking straight to me and where

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I had cried help me then we sang
that and I grew up singing just 

448
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:18,560
as I am I mean I played piano as
a child and that was one of my 

449
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,960
favorite hymns to play. 
That's beautiful and I surrender

450
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,400
all that was one of my other 
favorites to sing. 

451
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:30,120
I mean to play. 
I don't sing, but then when we 

452
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,200
hit that my life is in your 
hands. 

453
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:39,320
I popped up and my hands were 
raised and I, I closed my eyes 

454
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:43,320
and I swear the choir came down 
and surrounded me. 

455
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,440
And then when I opened my eyes, 
that was nobody. 

456
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,560
There was nobody. 
There was nobody. 

457
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,800
But I know I was surrounded with
angels that day. 

458
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,840
I know I was surrounded. 
And then I went back to the 

459
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,240
altar that night and I said, all
right, God, you've put this in 

460
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,720
my life. 
I'm giving it back to you. 

461
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,120
You picked me for this. 
Now use me. 

462
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,560
And that's June 13th was 19 
years ago. 

463
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:21,520
Wow, I love how you end with 
that of just saying, God, you 

464
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,080
gave this to me and I'm giving 
it back to you because one of 

465
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,160
the things that changed my life 
that I actually talked to 

466
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,080
another girl on the podcast 
about is she told me she was 

467
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,040
like, God gives us more that we 
can handle that we can't hold so

468
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,680
that we do turn around and give 
it back to him. 

469
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080
And you just literally quoted 
what she said that changed my 

470
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,160
life. 
So I'm like what? 

471
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,080
And I haven't listened to that 
one yet. 

472
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,520
Wow. 
So it's like, well, it hasn't 

473
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,920
even came out yet. 
I don't think so. 

474
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,600
Yeah, I think it comes out next 
month, but that is just 

475
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,760
absolutely amazing. 
But I so how are you feeling 

476
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,240
with God? 
Like, was there a period of time

477
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,360
where like, you're angry? 
Or maybe you're just like, 

478
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,840
you're just numb really until 
that night? 

479
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200
The night I threw the phone, 
yeah, The night I threw the 

480
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:08,720
phone. 
And then after that, yeah, I 

481
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,760
had. 
So I had 13 surgeries in the 

482
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,120
first three years. 
That's a lot. 

483
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:20,760
I had more than 20, the 1st 5. 
I had non textbook complications

484
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,120
from my reconstruction, had no 
issues with chemo. 

485
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,040
I had 6 rounds of chemo, six 
weeks of daily radiation. 

486
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120
I still take one oral 
medication. 

487
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,680
I've hit the five year plan of 
that. 

488
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,800
But one of the doctors that I 
saw after I finished my five 

489
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,840
year plan, he's like, he should 
have had a recurrence by now and

490
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,480
I don't know why you have it. 
Hey, ma'am. 

491
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,200
And I looked at him and I said, 
like, yeah, I know why. 

492
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,080
Yeah. 
And it has nothing to do with 

493
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,440
what you did. 
And. 

494
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,920
And he said, you're right. 
I mean, he said you're right. 

495
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,920
So yeah. 
So I've, you know, I've my 

496
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,240
cancer. 
What people saw it as a road 

497
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,160
walk. 
I actually grew from my cancer. 

498
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,920
I learned to be a voice from 
myself. 

499
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,960
I felt like I had always been a 
voice for others, but to be a 

500
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,680
voice for myself, yeah, was was 
totally different. 

501
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,280
One day I got an e-mail about an
opportunity to go to DC and 

502
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,280
represent Middle Georgia. 
Represent breast cancer 

503
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,560
survivors from Middle Georgia. 
It's amazing. 

504
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,480
That sounds like fun. 
Let. 

505
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Me go away and I get a travel 
grant, so they'll they'll pay 

506
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,480
for it and I can go away for a 
couple of days, yeah. 

507
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,440
With a home full of boys. 
Yes, ma'am. 

508
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,240
Yes ma'am. 
So I did, and that's a whole 

509
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,240
another story. 
I actually found myself on 

510
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,200
Capitol Hill. 
They prepared me with a 

511
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,520
lobbyist, with a paid person. 
And after the second meeting, 

512
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,360
she was like, you don't know, 
you don't need me. 

513
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,560
You're you're good. 
And I'm like, what? 

514
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,000
What what? 
I've been almost 20 times and 

515
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,880
I've actually gone toe to toe 
and corrected some Congress 

516
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,680
members on some misinformation. 
And they had to the point that 

517
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,120
they thanked me. 
Wow. 

518
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,880
They said, you tell me what I 
needed to hear, not what you 

519
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,280
thought I wanted to hear. 
I would have never done that 

520
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,080
before. 
I've done some advocates, I've 

521
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,280
done advocacy, I've done 
research, I've sat on research 

522
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:37,800
panels. 
Wow. 

523
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,800
I've I've met researchers from 
across the globe. 

524
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,240
In fact, I'm Facebook message to
friend the other day that lives 

525
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,640
in New Zealand that that's a 
breast an ovarian cancer 

526
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,840
researcher. 
Oh, wow, so, so you just got 

527
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,560
people everywhere. 
I got people everywhere. 

528
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,040
That is amazing. 
So with all of that, let's kind 

529
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,480
of talk about, you know, 'cause 
you say you grew so much, like 

530
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,720
I'm sure you had to truly lean 
on God three years and it's just

531
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,120
surgery after surgery after 
surgery. 

532
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,960
So like, what does that look 
like going into surgeries or 

533
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,080
like you and your husband's 
relationship and how that is? 

534
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:25,520
So one at my, my mastectomy I 
had and they said my word became

535
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,080
courage. 
My through the whole thing 

536
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,560
courage. 
That was my word. 

537
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,120
And the morning of my mastectomy
when I got up, of course, you 

538
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,480
only had to be there at 5:00 in 
the morning, had to be there 

539
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,680
super early. 
And I'm sitting on the side of 

540
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,400
the bed and Scott asked me, Are 
you ready? 

541
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,320
And I'm like I shook my head no 
and they gently but firmly held 

542
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:55,440
my little cheeks and said have 
courage OK, I can do that. 

543
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:02,360
And so we go Revere and they put
me in holding. 

544
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,280
They take me from pre op to not 
pre op holding and the case 

545
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,040
before took longer than it was 
supposed to. 

546
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,240
So I'm back there totally by 
myself for over an hour. 

547
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,600
I am blind as a bat without my 
contacts, so I can't see and I'm

548
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,920
just laying and a Gurney all 
along. 

549
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,480
But I'm right in front of the 
nurse's station and I can hear 

550
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,800
the nurse and I know she's 
talking to Scott. 

551
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,280
And she comes over to me, said I
just talked to your husband and 

552
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,720
we're fixing they've, they're 
ready for you. 

553
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440
So we're going to be going back 
in a few minutes. 

554
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,480
And then he told me to remind 
you to have courage. 

555
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,120
And I started to cry. 
And she said, can I pray for 

556
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:51,200
you? 
Oh wow. 

557
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,320
And I couldn't answer her, but I
nodded my head and I thought she

558
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,560
was just going to, you know, say
OK, I'll pray for you and I'll 

559
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:01,640
go off on her. 
Me, right? 

560
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800
No, ma'am. 
She ripped that curtain clothes 

561
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,600
around my Gurney. 
She grabbed my hands and laid 

562
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,760
them over my chest. 
And she prayed out loud over me 

563
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,639
for me, for my children, for my 
husband, for the surgeon, for 

564
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:21,480
every part of my care team. 
And, and she and she remembered 

565
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,520
the word courage. 
That's beautiful. 

566
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,080
She and, and she prayed for me 
to have courage. 

567
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,400
And then when she opened the 
curtain bag up, the transporter 

568
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360
was there to take me down. 
And she looked at him. 

569
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,719
She said I'm good, I'm going to 
take her down. 

570
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,400
And so she was the charge nurse 
and she pushed me down to the OR

571
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,960
and she parked me outside the OR
and she asked the nurse 

572
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,400
anesthetist to come out. 
She said she's not going in here

573
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,360
awake. 
You're going to come out here 

574
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:58,120
and give her something because 
she's not going in there awake 

575
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
seeing all that and seeing 
everything. 

576
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,280
Well, her name is Tina. 
And when, as I said, I had 13 

577
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,400
surgeries in three years, she 
was probably my pre op nurse 

578
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,600
nine of those times. 
Wow, that is unheard of. 

579
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,720
I mean those. 
Nurses change as change regular 

580
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,920
and and I and Tina like we 
became, we became friends. 

581
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,280
When I had my reconstruction, 
she wasn't, she was off that 

582
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,000
day, but she saw that I was on 
the schedule. 

583
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,920
And so she made a note and 
swapped with somebody to come 

584
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,840
the day after so that she could 
come and see me on the floor. 

585
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,320
And she haunted me down to come 
and find me to see me because 

586
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,120
she's like, I missed you 
yesterday. 

587
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
And she had a family thing. 
She's I tried to trade, but I 

588
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,320
couldn't have had a family 
thing, but I had to come and see

589
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,120
you. 
I love how God just sends these 

590
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,680
people in our lives. 
Like he already said at the 

591
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,960
beginning, you you said that you
know that he was going to 

592
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:02,640
provide someone to like the 
past, so he did that all. 

593
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,160
The way through all the way 
through. 

594
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,800
And then to have Tina not I'll 
pretty much not all my surprise,

595
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,160
yes, like just encouragement. 
And I just love how like there 

596
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,000
is many times where was like, 
we'll pray for you, like we're 

597
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,440
praying for you. 
But she said no. 

598
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,880
We're doing it right here, right
right now, Prayer warrior. 

599
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,680
It was amazing and thankfully I 
haven't had to see her in a long

600
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,560
time. 
I think I'm but she was just I 

601
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,320
love. 
I love. 

602
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:34,280
I had an amazing care team. 
My husband, he took care of me. 

603
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,960
He took care of laundry. 
He worked non he still worked 

604
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,040
news that I couldn't work. 
My treatment was all day on 

605
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:50,560
Tuesday and it was literally all
day and Wednesday was his work 

606
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,160
from home day. 
It was his report day. 

607
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
So I would sleep all day on 
Wednesday. 

608
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,920
My parents would drive up on 
Wednesday night 'cause my mom 

609
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:03,320
was, my dad had retired, but my 
mom was working three days a 

610
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,480
week. 
And so on my chemo weeks, she 

611
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,040
would work Monday, Tuesday, 
Wednesday, then they would drive

612
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,680
up and then they would take care
of the boys and this and that. 

613
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,400
On Fridays, she would say, 
alright, get up, go get dressed,

614
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400
go get the shower. 
And I like, I can't. 

615
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,480
I said, go get the shower, I'm 
your Mama, go get in the shower.

616
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:27,800
And she would sit on the stool 
and my bathroom until I got. 

617
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320
Well, I showered, man. 
I didn't have any hair, so it 

618
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,640
didn't take as long to get it 
ready. 

619
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:36,320
But then she would be there with
my towel and she'd wrap me in my

620
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,520
towel and help me dry off and 
she'd put my robe on me. 

621
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,320
OK, go lay down. 
And then I'd lay down for a few 

622
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,640
minutes. 
OK, What are you going to wear? 

623
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:46,760
Yeah. 
And I'm like, I don't know, OK, 

624
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,320
you want this shirt or you want 
this shirt? 

625
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,560
So she was. 
Trying to make sure you didn't 

626
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,040
go into like that fun. 
Yeah. 

627
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Because no matter how old you 
are. 

628
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,120
Your mom is a Mama baby girl. 
Yeah, you say your honest girl. 

629
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,400
And so we would get up, we'd go 
to, we'd go to Target, we'd go 

630
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,680
to Publix, we'd go somewhere. 
She they'd put me in a 

631
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,600
wheelchair because I didn't have
the strength to walk. 

632
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,040
And and then we would go to 
Gingy's. 

633
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000
We would go to Gingy's for lunch
and I didn't have an appetite 

634
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,920
and she would ask the wait. 
She told the waitress she's 

635
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,400
like, she's going through chemo.
So she she can't eat a lot. 

636
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,440
And I'm like, mom, I think they 
can look at me and tell. 

637
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,160
But she they would let me get a 
kids bill. 

638
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,320
And so we would do that and then
they'd come home and then they'd

639
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,440
I'd take a nap. 
Then they'd get the boys from 

640
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,560
school. 
The principals at my boys 

641
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,240
schools, they learned my 
parents. 

642
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,960
They called them my name. 
They knew their cars. 

643
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,000
They said, hey, Miss Ruth, hey, 
Mr. Newton, how how did things 

644
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:52,520
go this week? 
The schools just took excellent 

645
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,840
care of not just me, but my 
kids. 

646
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,880
My the principal at the primary 
school, she was one of the first

647
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,280
people that we told outside of 
our circle because I knew that 

648
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:11,760
going into first grade, John 
David didn't need a teacher that

649
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,240
was counting down the days to 
retirement. 

650
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,440
He didn't need somebody that was
green that was trying to figure 

651
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,880
it out. 
Not that there's anything wrong 

652
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,080
with either one of those, but 
that's not what he made them. 

653
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,200
Well, she took it a step further
and said, who's his best friend?

654
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:32,880
Because that's who's going to 
pick up on him not being his 

655
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,840
normal self. 
Yeah. 

656
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,720
And if something happens and 
you're in the hospital, that's 

657
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:41,200
who he's going to go home with. 
And I'm like, I never thought of

658
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,800
it, that I never thought of it 
that way. 

659
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,120
Joseph's school, I was on PTO 
there. 

660
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,360
I had just started a big flower 
bed. 

661
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,760
You know, there's nothing going,
nothing's fixing to happen 

662
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,880
because, you know, so let's 
start a whole new flower bed. 

663
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,240
Well then when we got the phone 
call. 

664
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,920
I couldn't get out and work in 
the yard and I look outside one 

665
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:12,480
day and PTI was in my yard and 
it had started with one mom and 

666
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,720
had gone to another mom who had 
called another mom and they were

667
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,960
picking up limbs. 
We have pecan trees, so they 

668
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,480
drop limbs all the time. 
They're picking up limbs, 

669
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,160
they're trimming their plant. 
They had gone and plant pot 

670
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,400
flowers and had planted flowers 
at my front door so that every 

671
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,160
time I stood at my front door. 
I saw some beautiful. 

672
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,640
I saw beautiful flowers, so that
way I always had flowers. 

673
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:39,480
They took care of my kids, my 
circle, my friends. 

674
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,360
They took care of not just me 
and my husband, but they took 

675
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:49,000
care of my kids. 
One of my friends, she likes to 

676
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,480
do laundry. 
I never heard of that and if she

677
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,240
still loves to do. 
Laundry, I got some stuff for 

678
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,920
her so she came one night and 
tell the boys, OK bring me, I'll

679
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,440
get dirty clothes and she took a
basket home to her house and 

680
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,400
washed and dried and. 
Folded. 

681
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,360
Wow, God just kept sending them.
We had so much food, we had to 

682
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,360
buy a freezer. 
Oh, we already had the freezer, 

683
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,440
but half of Houston County had 
the coat tire garage, and we had

684
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,840
casseroles in this. 
And I don't know what people 

685
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,880
would just come by and open the 
garage door. 

686
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,560
Yeah, put it in the freezer, 
close the garage door and leave.

687
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,840
I love that. 
Well, as we begin to close a 

688
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,760
little bit, I would love to 
hear, you know, I'm going to 

689
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,160
give you 3 options. 
OK, This is what I usually do. 

690
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,080
So either maybe tell us a little
bit something that God's 

691
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:45,240
revealed to you more recently, 
maybe some advice to maybe 

692
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:49,960
someone that's going through 
this or just to women in 

693
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,360
general, or something that I 
haven't gave you the opportunity

694
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,240
to really talk about and you 
were like on the way here, like 

695
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,800
I really want to say this and I 
haven't gave you the chance to 

696
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,240
do so. 
So. 

697
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:06,000
How do you want to end it? 
I want to talk to, to, to, to 

698
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,440
not just women, but just to 
ladies, to girls. 

699
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,880
Know your body. 
Don't take no. 

700
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,880
If something's doesn't feel 
right, you know yourself. 

701
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,480
And for the folks for for the 
and it's not just ladies, it's 

702
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,720
men. 
Yeah, too. 

703
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,120
That is true. 
It's it's men, too. 

704
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,080
I have a good friend that has 
that he has metastatic breast 

705
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,000
cancer right now. 
But you're not alone. 

706
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,960
You're not alone. 
A friend, someone she told 

707
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:41,040
somebody that she knew about me.
She said, I'm sorry that your 

708
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,800
friend has breast cancer, that 
she won't be the last one. 

709
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,960
You know, it's one and eight is 
or that's the odds. 

710
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,360
I heard it's probably dropping 
to 1:00 and 7:00. 

711
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,600
But you're not alone. 
And I'm just so thankful for the

712
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,400
ladies and men, but mostly 
ladies that walk the path before

713
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:09,640
me so that I can do what I do 
now and just know you're not 

714
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,440
alone. 
Yeah, I love how you said the 

715
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,760
don't take no for an answer 
because your original OBGYN 

716
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,240
literally said no. 
Well, you know it's fine, but 

717
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,200
you were persistent. 
If I hadn't listened to that 

718
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,320
person, yeah, I would, because I
was only 35, I would not have 

719
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,880
made 40. 
I would not have turned. 

720
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680
I would have not lived to 40. 
Wow. 

721
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,840
And that at that time, that was 
that was the age for having a 

722
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,960
mammogram. 
Wow. 

723
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,520
Because I know like there's so 
many times they're, you know, 

724
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,960
even just me too. 
I'm like, no, I'm young, you 

725
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,960
know, but you're saying like 35 
and I wouldn't even have made it

726
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,360
to 40. 
And so it's just, it's so 

727
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,000
important to know your body and 
to get your check UPS regularly 

728
00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:00,280
and just be aware of the things 
that could possibly be like a 

729
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,760
sign of those. 
Like what are maybe some signs? 

730
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,760
That you would like to say 
there's a great I wish I had it 

731
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,800
with me. 
There's a great graphic of 

732
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,320
lemons. 
It's a dozen lemons and it shows

733
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,200
different signs and one is the 
inverted nipple. 1 is a you know

734
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:25,840
how an A lemon when it gets old,
how the peel gets dry and flaky.

735
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,400
That's one of the signs. 
I can't think of all the others,

736
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,680
but like you doing you doing a 
self exam. 

737
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,320
Do do a self exam, do a self 
exam. 

738
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,640
And if you're young, you know, 
they say the week after your 

739
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,840
cycle, if you're postmenopausal 
or you've had a hysterectomy, 

740
00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:51,600
doesn't matter when because you 
know, but I always pick my 

741
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,160
birthday because that's going to
come around every the 4th is 

742
00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,240
going to come around every month
and just do the same day each 

743
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,760
month And but just know your 
body. 

744
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,000
Yeah, when it and. 
And if something doesn't feel 

745
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,360
right, ask. 
Yeah. 

746
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,000
That's good. 
This has been so good. 

747
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,280
I absolutely enjoyed hearing 
your story and I actually. 

748
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,120
This shirt I forgot about it 
shirt so this was the very this 

749
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,680
shirt is vintage. 
I love it. 

750
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,640
Reach out and tell a friend. 
Reach out and tell a friend our 

751
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:29,280
Sunday school class started a 
well, it started as a girls 

752
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,160
night for Sunday school class 
and just to do a little breast 

753
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,160
cancer awareness and it turned 
into over 100 ladies. 

754
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,280
Wow, that's a big group. 
It had a big group. 

755
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,800
Anissa Drigger saying my friend 
Kim is a nurse navigator. 

756
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,840
She came and talked on the 
clinical side. 

757
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,120
We sold these cute little 
T-shirts and but we before when 

758
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,680
we needed a verse, we were 
talking to somebody. 

759
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,400
Actually, I was Brother Dennis 
who recommended this verse. 

760
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:02,640
What is it Galatians 66262 I 
must be dyslexic so I literally 

761
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,560
yeah okay yeah but it's they're 
one anothers burdens and so 

762
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,440
fulfill the. 
Law of Christ, yeah. 

763
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,960
That's beautiful and so who 
designed those they're so cute. 

764
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,040
We did y'all just all came 
collectively came together and 

765
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,200
collectively get them and I'll 
pull it out every now and then 

766
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,480
and today was a great day was a 
great day to pull it out yes 

767
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,960
well 19 years, 19 years next 
year will be 20. 

768
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,960
So we will celebrate it 
absolutely. 

769
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,880
That is a big thing marriage 30 
years that's an accomplishment 

770
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:38,200
20 years at survivor like God is
just so good. 

771
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,480
He has been through all your 
story and just then they're 

772
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,120
through it all and it's just so 
beautiful. 

773
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,480
Well, this. 
Has been so good, right. 

774
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,480
So thank you for sharing. 
Thank you. 

775
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,600
Yes. 
All right, guys, I hope you 

776
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,280
enjoyed this as much as we have.
Make sure you check us out, rate

777
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,160
US comment. 
If you have any questions, 

778
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,480
concern comments, we are here to
answer them. 

779
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,440
I'll be able to pass it along to
Rachel. 

780
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,480
So yes, stay tuned, stay 
blessed, and we'll see you guys 

781
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,240
later. 
Bye bye.

