1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,480 What's up guys? My name is Alexis Brown, your 2 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,560 host with praises in the pod. And I am so excited to have 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,640 Kayla Hill with us today. Yay. 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,040 So we are so excited to jump right in. 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,800 So we're going to start out on prayer and then we're going to 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:30,120 get started. Lord, thank you for this day and 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,640 all your many blessings. Dear God, thank you for sending 8 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,120 me this friendship with Kayla and her husband. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,040 Lord, we just pray that this episode is a light and just 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,360 shows your goodness and glorifies you. 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,320 We pray that you speak to us and through US in Jesus name I pray 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:44,560 Amen. Amen. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,440 There we go. All right, so earlier this week 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,200 we got together and tried to talk about some things that, you 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,160 know, you have went through and what God's delivered you from 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,440 and just I'm just super excited to get started. 17 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,960 Yeah. So if you would just go ahead 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,000 and maybe say a little bit about your childhood and maybe how you 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,880 grew up and just tell us about yourself. 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,480 Well, like you said, I'm Kayla Hill. 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,680 I am first a child of God. Amen. 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,440 Yes, yes, yes. I'm married to Daniel Hill. 23 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,400 We both have been serving in children's ministry for about, I 24 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:25,080 would say six or seven years. But something else. 25 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,680 Me and Dan, we have two kids, beautiful girl named Aurora and 26 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:33,120 her son Asher. Aurora is 5 going on 6, Asher is 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,400 2 going on three, which is crazy right now. 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,400 I currently teach at a Christian School. 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,320 I'm APE teacher and I coach basketball. 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,000 Let's go school. So, yeah, growing up, my dad was 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,440 in the Army, so I'm an Army brat. 32 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,000 That's what they call us. So we moved around a lot, like 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,080 we moved about every three years. 34 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Is that like a normal year, Like every three years is what normal 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,320 like most people do? Because I feel like I've heard 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,840 that a lot throughout my life. I think it's dependent on the 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,720 branch. I've heard that Air Force like 38 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,919 they stay they get stationed in places longer. 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,280 As far as what I've seen. Army. 40 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,360 Most of people I've known in the Army do get moved around a 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,760 little bit more. Oh wow. 42 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Yeah. So I think it just depends on 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,840 the branch. So where were you actually born? 44 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,320 I was born in Montgomery, AL. OK, OK. 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Then, but I don't claim it. How long did? 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,440 How long were you there for? Shoot, I don't even think we're 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:31,960 there. Long. 48 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Maybe. Maybe a year. 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,840 So you don't remember anything? I don't remember anything like I 50 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:39,200 was little. Yeah. 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,440 OK. So I moved around a lot, every 52 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,520 three years or so. Yep, I grew up with three 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,600 brothers, so I am tomboy at heart. 54 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Are they all older than you? No, I'm second oldest so 2 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,000 younger brothers and one older brother. 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,640 OK cool. And my parents. 57 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:59,320 I had a great childhood. I really did Parents, they're 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,360 still married. And I know like a lot of people 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,800 can't say that nowadays. So I, you know, I don't take 60 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,800 that for granted at all. And so it's, it's, it's great 61 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,680 being able to say my parents are still together. 62 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Yes, so like when you were growing up where you were y'all 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:19,360 involved in church or like what, what was your what was your life 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 like back then when it come to God and your walk with them. 65 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,760 So somebody who really influenced us or pushed us 66 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,840 really to know about God or, you know, going to church was my 67 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,560 mom, my dad was APK. But like growing up being in the 68 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,800 military, moving around a lot, you know, it's hard to get 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,360 plugged in. And being a kid, I didn't really 70 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,720 understand that struggle or if it was a struggle for them. 71 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,320 I just know that we went to church not every Sunday, but we, 72 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,720 I mean, we grew up learning about prayer, just knowing about 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,280 God, know what sin is, you know, kind of like the basics. 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,120 And we didn't really know a lot about like having a relationship 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,000 with Jesus. We just knew that we need to 76 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,920 read our Bible and that we didn't need to sin. 77 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,440 Yes. And we listen to our parents. 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,960 Yeah, I mean, that's that's that's a good foundation. 79 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,720 But, you know, without the relationship, then it's just 80 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,800 checking those boxes. It's just checking boxes. 81 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,120 Yep. What exactly were some of the 82 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,920 struggles that maybe you had before you encountered God for 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,680 the first time or really started seeking Him to have that 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:31,280 relationship with Him? I would say it all began really 85 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:34,400 in elementary, elementary school. 86 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:39,040 I would say it was one day I was like just funneling through my 87 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:42,920 parents TV. They had cable, but I didn't 88 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,280 know, I didn't know anything about like parental protection 89 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:47,960 or whatever you have on the cable. 90 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,720 That setting I knew on my TV in my room, like I couldn't access 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,160 certain channels, but I knew they had like all the good 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,200 movies, you know, because something that our family was 93 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,520 big about was watching like TV shows or going to the movies or 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,200 watching movies together. So I went into my parents room 95 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,800 and I was just like surfing channels and I came across 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:12,400 pornography and that was one of the just the first things, you 97 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,680 know, looking back for a while, I didn't know, you know, where 98 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:20,440 all my struggles stemmed from until I mean really not that 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,560 long ago because a lot of people say, you know, I'm Born This 100 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,440 Way. But anyway, so pornography was 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,560 something I struggled with. Once I came upon it, I didn't 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,680 know what it was. I was curious and then my body 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,400 felt a certain way when I watched it. 104 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,320 So it was something it that became an addiction. 105 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,920 Little did I know. Wow. 106 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,520 In elementary. School in elementary school. 107 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,800 Wow, I was probably in maybe the 4th grade, 3rd, 4th maybe. 108 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:54,840 Wow, that is really young because that would be like 9-10. 109 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,840 Yeah, yeah, that is so young because I'm around, you know, 9 110 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,120 and 10 year olds and even in kids ministry and you look at 111 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,760 those kids and that's just so young. 112 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Oh, wow. OK so you you found porn for the 113 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,440 first time. Yep. 114 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,280 So there was that. And then something else, which 115 00:06:11,280 --> 00:06:16,800 is crazy thing about now that, you know, became something that 116 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,600 I didn't really understand was, you know, in school I could be 117 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,200 walking around and one boy would, like, come up and, like, 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,920 grab my butt or, like, grope it. Like I didn't know what to do. 119 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,920 I didn't know how to react, and I didn't know how to talk about 120 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,040 it either. So it's just something I kept to 121 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,280 myself. And I was like, what do I do? 122 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,160 Yeah. So from elementary school that 123 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,360 all happens and then going into middle school, what, what stands 124 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,560 out about that? Going into middle school, I 125 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,200 mean, that stuff still happened and we were stationed in Alaska 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,240 at the time and in Alaska is when I first started playing 127 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,760 basketball. You know, I got around a whole 128 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,760 new group of friends. You know, we just moved there. 129 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,760 So we we kind of got used to just being the new kids and like 130 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,680 attention immediately as soon as you walk in. 131 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,040 So I had like a pretty good group of friends. 132 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Some some of the girls like I would have like an attraction to 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,560 some of my friends and that's just more confusing because I'm 134 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,000 just like, I don't know if I even questioned it. 135 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,800 It was just like, whatever. But of course you never fed 136 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,800 into. It No, I didn't. 137 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,040 I never fed into. It we're like. 138 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,160 She's cute, yeah. So living there, of course, 139 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,120 being around a bunch of girls, we talked about boys and had a 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,640 crush on so and so. And, and I'm not going to say I 141 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,560 didn't have an attraction towards him because I did. 142 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,040 I had a a best guy friend For me. 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,920 It wasn't a line I wanted to cross just because we were like 144 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,960 really good friends. And then I actually ended up 145 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,400 trying to date one guy and I genuinely did like him. 146 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,640 But we're getting ready to move again. 147 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,920 So it just didn't work out. Yeah, it just didn't work out. 148 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,680 Long distance. Middle school. 149 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,120 Middle. School, I mean, waste of time, 150 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,440 yeah. So yeah, going going from middle 151 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,160 school is where, you know, I really started getting that 152 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,040 attraction towards girls and I realized it just didn't 153 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:11,320 acknowledge it much. Leaving middle school, we move 154 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:12,680 again. Move again. 155 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Here we go. Got to start it over. 156 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,240 Oh, El Paso. Oh, OK. 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:25,400 This thing in Texas, OK, so you're in Texas and you're 158 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,040 you're in high school now. So what? 159 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,520 What is that so like? Moving on up to high school, 160 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,559 start playing ball again, got around a whole new group of 161 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,679 friends. And something that was different 162 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,320 was, you know, it was way more apparent as far as that 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,200 lifestyle, homosexuality. Like, there are a lot of people 164 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,400 who pretty much lived it out, like, unashamed. 165 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,120 And for me, it was just a question, Like, oh, they're gay. 166 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,400 Like, oh, they're dating. Oh, OK, cool. 167 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:57,880 Just very casual. Yeah. 168 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,080 And again, I didn't feed into it. 169 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,240 It's just something I just saw regularly. 170 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,400 Now. It's a regular thing. 171 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,320 Not saying every, not everybody I knew was, but a lot of my 172 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,200 friends, a lot of my people in my friend group, teammates even. 173 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,520 I live that lifestyle and I still never questioned my 174 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,920 sexuality. So it wasn't until a girl, she 175 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,600 approached me, well she texted me and she was like, hey, I got 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,960 a question. I'm just like, what's up? 177 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,640 And she asked me, are you gay? And I was just like, no, 178 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,440 immediately. Offended. 179 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,720 No. Absolutely not. 180 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,960 Like, why would you think that? And so after she asked me, like, 181 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,360 I went home and kind of pondered on this question and then I was 182 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,720 like, am I? Am I gay? 183 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,840 Because, you know, I, I have those thoughts and those 184 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:50,280 feelings towards these girls. And, you know, it's something 185 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,760 obviously a desire that I have just never said out loud. 186 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,240 So I went home and thought about this question and I came up to 187 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,280 the conclusion that I was. And so I go back to school and 188 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,200 I'm just like, you know what? Yeah, I am. 189 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Like, the very next day, probably. 190 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Yeah. Like, you thought about it. 191 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:08,960 Yeah. Yeah. 192 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,360 And, you know, that just kind of makes me think, you know, about 193 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,240 like, how you were already having these thoughts, but then, 194 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,840 like, she planted the seed and then you began to water it with 195 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,120 the thoughts that you were having because you're thinking 196 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,280 about it and you've never really acknowledged it. 197 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,800 You knew that the, like, the attraction was there, but you 198 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 never really fed into it or anything. 199 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,160 But now that someone's brought it to your attention that maybe 200 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,240 you could be, you know, like now you're watering it and you're 201 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,080 thinking about it and like, Well, yeah, Actually, I Yep. 202 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Oh, wow. OK. 203 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,760 Yeah, which is crazy. And so the next thing that 204 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,560 happens is there was one day I was in class, same girl. 205 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,880 She texts me and she's like, hey, meet me in the locker room. 206 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,200 I got to tell you something. Like, you good. 207 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,000 Everything OK? So like, I was like, genuinely 208 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,240 concerned, like you good. So I met her and I couldn't tell 209 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,320 you what we were talking about, but as we were talking she leans 210 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,040 and kisses me. Now this is my first kiss ever. 211 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,360 Oh wow. And this is after I'm thinking 212 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,240 about, you know, my sexuality. Yeah. 213 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,960 So from then on is when I was like, fully this is me. 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,960 That's my identity. This is what I want. 215 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:17,200 Yeah. You just get. 216 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Viewers like, I'm not fighting it anymore. 217 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:19,880 This is it. Yeah. 218 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,720 How do you remember how old you were around that time? 219 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,960 I know you're in high school, but would you say that's early 220 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,360 high school? 10th grade, OK. 221 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,800 So did any like did you start dating girls after that? 222 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,840 Like immediately or was she the one you started dating? 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,960 No, OK. So this girl, it was almost like 224 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,800 she was like recruiting. It's crazy. 225 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:50,320 But so I ended up dating one of my teammates which we had a we 226 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,040 had a great friendship, but this is my first like real 227 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,280 relationship with somebody. So you kind of started dating 228 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,160 throughout high school. What? 229 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,240 What's college? Give us a rundown of what 230 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,840 college kind of looked like. All right, going to college, I 231 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,760 am just at first it's like a a fear just being off without my 232 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,680 parents. Then I was excited because I'd 233 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:12,360 be playing basketball, I'd be doing something I love. 234 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:16,800 So going to college, you know, I had a lot more freedom and like 235 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,320 no accountability. Of course. 236 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,640 My mom, you know, she take them and called out, of course. 237 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 But a call versus living in the same hall. 238 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,360 And there's just, yeah, when I first got there, I kind of kind 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,680 of lay low. Didn't do like that much. 240 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:33,920 Just I was with my teammates mostly. 241 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Wait, wait, wait. We got to run it back. 242 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,760 Did you tell your parents in high school that you were seeing 243 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,760 girls or this is a secret life? No. 244 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,080 So this was a secret life. Secret life of Kelly Hill in 245 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,760 high school. I do think my mom was. 246 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,480 She was on to me. Like there's no way she didn't 247 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:55,000 know. That mom's intuition. 248 00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,400 Yes, my mom's got it and it's because of God, but so I feel 249 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,480 like she knew because she would, she would throw little hints 250 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,600 like you're not gay, are you? But it'd be like in a joking 251 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,880 manner. But I'm like, she called me and 252 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,680 I'm just like, no, like what are you talking about? 253 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,400 Like why are you asking me that? Like offended. 254 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,880 I'd be offended, literally be offended that she asked me that 255 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,080 even though even. Though I have a full blown 256 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,360 girlfriend that you're texting right now and you're no. 257 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,040 And I think she knew about it. She just, I don't know if she 258 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:30,280 was in denial about it or, you know, she was waiting on me to 259 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,840 say something about I don't know, but I feel like she 260 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,560 didn't. And we have never had this 261 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:37,800 conversation. But so so then you go off to 262 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:42,560 college and now it's easier to. Oh yes, I don't have to hide it. 263 00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:46,240 Being off of college, I started to change even like the way I 264 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,280 dress. So I remember in high school we 265 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,400 had this project where, you know, you come in, it was like 266 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,880 one of them, like homecoming week things where you dress as 267 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,120 whoever. And I remember coming in dressed 268 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 as my brother because I didn't have anything else to dress up 269 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,840 as at home. So I just grabbed a few of his 270 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:07,080 clothes and wore that to school. And when I tell you, I felt so 271 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,000 comfortable and I was just like, man, I could do this. 272 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,480 Yeah. And like, I would get comments, 273 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,960 like that day, I would get comments from some of my 274 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,400 girlfriends, and they would say, Dang, Kelly, you look good in 275 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,920 those clothes. And I'm just like, thanks, you 276 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,000 know, it felt good. So, you know, when I went off to 277 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,360 college, this is how I started dressing. 278 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:29,920 Yeah. I started changing a lot about 279 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,080 myself. I just go to the Barber shop on 280 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,360 campus, got the little tape line and everything. 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:36,080 Yeah. So, yeah, all that started 282 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,560 changing. Of course, when I go home for 283 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,320 one of the holidays, my daddy's not the one that address. 284 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,160 I don't think he likes conflict. Yeah, but my mom will. 285 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,640 And so, of course, that's the first thing she knows is I 286 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,880 remember not too long, like I was on the phone with her and I 287 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,680 think there's tension. I can't remember what we were 288 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,880 talking about, but I ended up like, coming out to her. 289 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,000 But it was more like aggressive. Yeah, because I was mad. 290 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,800 At like you were trying to hurt her, yeah. 291 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,960 Honestly, it's almost like I can't remember what we were 292 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,520 talking about, but I was like, you know what? 293 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:08,200 I am gay and this is who I am. You know, this is how I feel. 294 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 That's my identity. So I took on that identity. 295 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,960 I met this girl in college and we ended up dating for about two 296 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,720 years. So I was like fully in that 297 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,280 lifestyle. So what is that? 298 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,920 What does that relationship look like? 299 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,960 I know she was at the school because she was about to be a 300 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,800 police officer. So me on basketball scholarship, 301 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,800 we stayed in the same dorms, so it's almost like we were living 302 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,240 together already, kind of like playing house. 303 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:36,280 So this is somebody I thought that I was going to marry. 304 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,880 Like this is somebody that I thought that I loved. 305 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,440 You know, we eventually graduate. 306 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,200 She applies for this job at a college, becoming campus 307 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,040 security. Y'all are dating, she's trying 308 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,880 to become a police officer. You're there playing basketball. 309 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,640 What, like does she meet your parents? 310 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:54,120 Does your parents know about her? 311 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,680 That you're exclusive with a girl or how does that look? 312 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,280 So after I came out to my mom, not long, I think we had a 313 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,440 holiday and for some reason, like she couldn't go home, 314 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,640 whatever. So I was like, hey, let me ask 315 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,760 my mom if you can come for the holiday. 316 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,400 And of course my mom was like, no, I don't want that in my 317 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,560 house, blah, blah, you know, stuff I didn't want to hear. 318 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,320 So I was like, OK, well, I'll just stay here then. 319 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,040 And then it was just like, it's almost, I gave her a ultimatum. 320 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Oh, wow, she's not OK. And I know for one of the 321 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,360 holidays she actually let her come. 322 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:33,280 And of course there's tension. My mom didn't like it, but she 323 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,440 let she let me. And I think it was just, I mean, 324 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,080 she loved me. I remember in college, like I 325 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,400 would call her, but it wouldn't be pertaining to like it'd be 326 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,640 brand like grocery money, gas, whatever. 327 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,160 And there would be times where she asked me Reggie Powell today 328 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,200 I'm just like, I don't want to hear that right now. 329 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,800 I just want to talk to you. And so like, I feel like my 330 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,960 phone calls did become less and less to where it was her 331 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:04,440 reaching out most of the time. And me being fully involved in 332 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,119 this lifestyle kind of caused a wedge between me and my mom not 333 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,800 to where, you know, she was wouldn't call or check up on me 334 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,560 because my mom, she was never that parent. 335 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,599 You know, she's always going to love us and she showed that. 336 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,200 But of course, there was always tension anytime we got on the 337 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,800 phone, every time we like, had a conversation because the Bible 338 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:24,280 would get brought up all the time. 339 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,680 I did not want to hear that at all. 340 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,320 Yeah, because you knew God, you, you had grew up in that. 341 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:34,760 So you were having convictions about it or you just were 342 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,040 totally just. I'm comfortable with that life, 343 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,920 basically. So during this relationship I 344 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,320 was in, it was I'd randomly be convicted or she would randomly 345 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,320 be convicted. And, you know, looking back, I 346 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:53,080 know that was my mom praying or whoever, you know, was looking 347 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,320 over us. They were praying for yes, they 348 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:56,400 were praying for that conviction. 349 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,880 The way that you've talked about your mom, she had the whole 350 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,160 squad praying. Oh, for sure. 351 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 She's a prayer. Warrior and y'all move so much 352 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,280 that y'all had people. Everywhere praying, I thought, I 353 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:09,240 thought my mom had eyes everywhere. 354 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:12,240 So she was brought up going to church with her, her 355 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,080 grandmother. So she knew about God. 356 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,600 I knew about prayer. We kind of, we both did. 357 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,440 So the chief that she worked under at the college that she 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,160 worked at, looking back, you could see God already 359 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,400 orchestrating everything. He's putting people in the 360 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,240 places where we are going to encounter him. 361 00:18:30,360 --> 00:18:34,360 Yes. So get to know Chief a lot and 362 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:37,280 he he ends up becoming like a father figure for both of. 363 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,560 Us, I remember you saying when y'all were on campus or 364 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,920 whatever, like you just have cookouts like everybody's 365 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,160 invited and just pull up, you know like pull up in a plate. 366 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,800 Meeting Chief and his secretary that worked with him and then 367 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,240 being Christians, you know, Chief Wood, he would invite us 368 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,440 to go to church and he just, he loved us. 369 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:00,400 And it's not him walking around saying I'm a Christian. 370 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,280 Look at me. It was just, you know, very 371 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,040 apparent. Like you could see it on him, 372 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,960 like he was wearing Jesus Christ on him. 373 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,360 Yeah. And something that he did was, 374 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,360 you know, he loved on us knowing our lifestyle. 375 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,520 He didn't treat us any different. 376 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,320 He wasn't like a Bible thumper, you know, he just loved us. 377 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,680 He didn't treat us any different. 378 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,840 And that's something, you know, we really appreciate it. 379 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,760 Yeah, like when I when I mean, obviously I don't know Chief or 380 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,960 anything, but like that is like the Christian that I aspire to 381 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,960 be, you know, like I want to be somewhere. 382 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,400 And in Heathers episode from last week, we talked about being 383 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,560 approachable. And Chief is a very approachable 384 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,960 man, right? You can go to him, you can fight 385 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,120 in him, you can tell him all this stuff and he's going to 386 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,240 just love on you. Like he's just going to, you 387 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 know, show the love of Jesus. And that's what we should be 388 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,640 aspiring to be. We shouldn't be, you know, 389 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,000 trying to beat people over the head with the Bible because, you 390 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,960 know, like, even though we want to show the show the truth, we 391 00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:01,400 want to tell people about the truth. 392 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,440 We don't. Sometimes it can come off in a 393 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,440 negative manner when that's all we're trying to do and people's 394 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,960 like, well, all you're doing is judging me, You're condemning me 395 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,160 like so. I just love that. 396 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,400 I love this man. I love this man. 397 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,840 There was one day we went to him just out of the conviction, this 398 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,400 random conviction, because me and her talked about it. 399 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,560 We're just like, you know, are we doing? 400 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,200 We go up to his office and we're talking to him about it. 401 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,840 He's like, oh, you don't know this. 402 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,120 We were just walking around campus. 403 00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:35,280 So he just talked to us like, yeah, that that lifestyle is not 404 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,320 OK with God. You know, he sees it as an 405 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 abomination. And so we're just talking to him 406 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,920 and he was very gentle, very gentle about it. 407 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,960 There is another conviction. Can't tell you who, but we end 408 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,760 up going to secretary and we sat in her office for a little bit 409 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,960 and so we just love being around them. 410 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,000 I would say being around a Christian, a real Christian 411 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,560 would do nothing but draw people, you know? 412 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,080 People people are drawn to that life, they're drawn to that joy 413 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,080 and stuff. So yes, we're seeking and I bet 414 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,240 like when y'all walked in just trying to talk they were like 415 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,800 here we. Go. 416 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,760 So we sat down with her and we were like, what do we do? 417 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Because we love each other. We feel like there's no reason 418 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,880 for us not to be together. But we keep hearing, you know, 419 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,880 that our lifestyle is now OK, We got it pretty much. 420 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,760 And she pulls out probably 3 versions of the Bible just off 421 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,720 her bookshelf in her office. And then she's on the computer 422 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,040 because she's at work. So she's like, let me see. 423 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,320 So she's typing it up and she pulls it up on her screen as 424 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080 well. And she read to us First 425 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,200 Corinthians chapter 6 verses 9 through 10 says, do you know 426 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,080 that the unrighteous will not inherit God's Kingdom? 427 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,040 Do not be deceived. No sexually immoral people, 428 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,960 idolaters, adulterers, or males who have sex with males. 429 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,840 So homosexuality, no thieves, greedy people, drunkards, 430 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,720 verbally abusive people or swindlers would inherit God's 431 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,920 Kingdom. And you know, something that was 432 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,240 so I guess revealing to us is that it's right alongside the 433 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,000 murderers and the thieves and the, you know, the adulterers, 434 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,880 the drunkards, like it's, it's right alongside all of those. 435 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,360 So it shows you that all sin is equal. 436 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,920 And just seeing, you know, the word homosexual, or in this 437 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,120 version, men having sex with men, you know, we will not 438 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,120 inherit the Kingdom. You know, for us to see that 439 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:35,360 verse on the sheet, on the paper was it was so heavy. 440 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,880 Yeah. And it was like a shot to the 441 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,000 heart because this was somebody, like I said, somebody that I 442 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,600 love, genuinely love, and thought I was going to be with 443 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,160 forever. And there's a lot of scripture 444 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,400 that talks about homosexuality. You can go to the Old Testament, 445 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,760 the New Testament. I know there's a lot of people 446 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,520 who say the Old Testament don't matter anymore, but it does. 447 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:57,480 You got first, first Timothy, 1/8 through 10. 448 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,160 That's from New Testament. From the Old Testament. 449 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:06,160 You got Leviticus 1822, Leviticus 2013, Genesis 224, 450 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,720 when he's talking about man. Whenever he created man and 451 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,680 woman, he created them to be together. 452 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Man, it's not to be alone. Another thing that happens that 453 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,640 kind of makes you hit a reality check and just start, you know, 454 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,000 seeds watering basically some more. 455 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,720 So what? What was the turning moment if 456 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,160 all of these weren't like, where was it? 457 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,400 So the turning moment, there was one night we were walking on 458 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,680 canvas, you know, I was walking with her to lock up and she gets 459 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,080 a phone call that Chief had passed away in his sleep. 460 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,600 And it was just like what I think we like briefly talked to 461 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,400 him or we passed by him at some some point that morning. 462 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,560 And it was just like, we just saw he looked completely 463 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,360 healthy, completely fine. And then like, that is just 464 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,200 like, OK, well, we know where he is. 465 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,520 You know, he obviously went to heaven and it's just like, man, 466 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,480 you know, if if I was to die today, I know where I'd be 467 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,040 because they showed me in the scripture that it's not OK what 468 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,480 we're doing. So it's just like, that was like 469 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,680 gut wrenching. And that's what really rocked 470 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,040 us. That's what rocked me in my 471 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,000 heart. And it was just like, OK, we got 472 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,440 to get serious about this thing like this is it. 473 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,520 And that was my turning point was from then is, is I prayed 474 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,280 about it. I don't know how long after his 475 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,360 death, you know, I called my mom like weeping, sobbing, and, you 476 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,720 know, just telling her about my conviction, like, am I going to 477 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040 hell? And so on the phone that night, 478 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,840 she prayed with me. And then I remember going into 479 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,320 my my bedroom because the weight of it was so heavy, just dealing 480 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240 with his death and then thinking about all these things and just 481 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,480 being separated from God for eternity. 482 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,360 It was just like, as soon as I laid down, I was just like, I 483 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,600 ain't going to be able to go sleep right now. 484 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,920 I'm still crying. And so I laid down and that 485 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,680 weight was lifted like I could feel it, and I just went to 486 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,560 sleep. Wow. 487 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:02,600 Woke up feeling peaceful, kind of have more hope because being 488 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,720 in that lifestyle, not just that, but like the partying, the 489 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,600 drinking, occasional smoking, you know, it was just like, I'm 490 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:16,720 not happy and where do I find my joy, which is where I think the 491 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,400 conviction came from. And it was just like God's like 492 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,720 in me. You know, so y'all are living 493 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,000 together though, right? So y'all are living but y'all 494 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,800 have decided to go your separate ways? 495 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,120 Or has that came yet? Or y'all are kind of just like 496 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,200 we've got to but we don't know how or. 497 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:38,200 So after chief pass away, you know, we try to do this by 498 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,480 ourselves and then we're seeking advice from people who really 499 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,720 weren't Christians. And it was just like we'd ask 500 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,320 him, do you think we could still live together and, you know, do 501 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,640 this? And they're just like, no, which 502 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,160 they were right? No, you can't. 503 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Like y'all, y'all got to separate. 504 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,880 It's it's not going to work out. And then it's just like, no, we 505 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,440 could do it. And so. 506 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,000 At that point, it's like, bet yeah, I'm going to prove you. 507 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,240 Wrong. Yeah, it's a challenge. 508 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,000 We we come across this girl named Devin. 509 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,040 Devin was preparing to go on a mission trip called the World 510 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,160 Race, where you visit a different country every month 511 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,960 for 12 months. But yeah, so she was telling us 512 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,920 about her mission trip and how she had to sell everything so 513 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,840 she needed a place to stay. And I remember over the, the 514 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,880 course of probably like 2 weeks, you know, every time we saw her, 515 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,880 it's like, hey, how's it going? You know, she kept hitting 516 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,520 towards it and it was just like Long story short, you know, 517 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,360 Devin ends up moving in and she stayed with us for about maybe 518 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,880 two months. And during that time she 519 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,040 discipled us. I remember being on fire where 520 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,720 I'd get up every morning just like read books at a time and 521 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,280 studying the notes at the bottom. 522 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,240 And she would have a sticky note on the door in the mornings with 523 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,480 a short devotion or the scripture. 524 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,800 So we learned, we learned a lot about studying the Word and then 525 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,400 she introduced us to some people in this building right across 526 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,600 from our apartment and we found out that that was the Baptist 527 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Collegiate Ministry. Devin takes us over there and we 528 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,280 end up meeting the pastor there, which I know now he's in Warner 529 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,640 Robins and his kids go to the school that I teach at. 530 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:13,240 So I get to see them crazy. But yeah, Brian Puckett, shout 531 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,880 out to Brian Puckett and. This is still all in America. 532 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,000 'S all in America's we're still living together by the way. 533 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,000 And we end up going to church, getting baptized, getting saved. 534 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,760 And there were people like my teammates like they were asked, 535 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,080 aren't you and her still together? 536 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,040 It's like no, we're not, you know, we got saved, blah blah 537 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,000 blah and they're like there's no way y'all not still having sex 538 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,440 and I'm just like, we're not like we're really not. 539 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,840 So I hear, I had to hear that almost the whole season. 540 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,480 I mean, I was still surrounded by that community of people that 541 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,560 we just met, you know, so I would talk to Brian, I was in 542 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,640 Brian's office a lot. We talked about a lot of things 543 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,640 and the friends I made there, you know, there, they pretty 544 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,480 much held me. They helped me so much through 545 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,360 that. There was that. 546 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,680 And then I mean my, the people I started hanging out with started 547 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,280 to change, you know, had to drop some some friends that weren't 548 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,640 great influences. Not because, you know, now I'm 549 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,600 not in this lifestyle, but you are. 550 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,640 It was never, it was never that. It was just like, I just need to 551 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,760 be around people like like minded right now. 552 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Yeah. And it's just like, we're still 553 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,000 cool. I just can't. 554 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,800 I'm not partying no more. So I'll see you on campus in 555 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,720 class. That and then my attraction 556 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,160 towards my roommate, it pretty much like disappeared my 557 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,320 attraction towards her. Now I'm not going to say my 558 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,480 attraction toward towards women faded. 559 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,840 You know, even today, if I allow it, that can, that can be a 560 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,320 struggle to still. But like, I'm human and I know 561 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640 who to rely on and I'm being faithful and I love my husband, 562 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640 first of all. And so, yeah. 563 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,840 And I mean, those are the things that started changing my life 564 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,080 after, you know, giving my life to Christ. 565 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,560 Where are you going to church or are you going to that BCM that's 566 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,080 across the street? Are you still living in the 567 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,520 apartment? Yes. 568 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,640 OK, so at this time we're still living in the apartment and 569 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280 fully involved in BCM. They did outreaches. 570 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,000 We would eat like twice a week there. 571 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,360 And as a college student, yeah, got to go eat. 572 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640 Oh yeah. Free meals got. 573 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,600 To go. And we did Bible studies there. 574 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 There was one day we were, we did a Bible study and we were 575 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,040 going over, it was Matt Chandler, one of Matt Chandler's 576 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,160 Bible studies. BCM is actually where I met 577 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,840 Daniel. Versus her husband. 578 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,160 Yes, Daniel's my husband. Shout out to Daniel. 579 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,360 First thing I noticed, of course, was his tattoo. 580 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,800 It runs up his arm to his neck belt right here. 581 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,760 So that was one of the first things I noticed. 582 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,320 I was like, oh, that's a nice tattoo. 583 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,680 And then the next thing was like, how wise he was in his 584 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,840 feedback to questions that were prompted by Matt Chandler and 585 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,520 Brian. So just hearing all that flip 586 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,280 from his mouth, one of my peers, somebody my age, and just 587 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,960 hearing his passion behind his answers was the second thing. 588 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,280 And I was just like, man, I want to be like that. 589 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,920 Like I'm ready to be on that level. 590 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,400 He ends up being a roommate of one of the guys that I go to 591 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,040 church with. His name is Isaac. 592 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,960 Shout out Isaac. Isaac was preparing to go on a 593 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,880 mission trip in Taiwan for I think he was going to be there a 594 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,520 year. Daniel didn't go to a little bit 595 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,880 later, I think, and he was having a going away party at our 596 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640 church. So we were throwing a big old 597 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,400 thing for him to get ready to go and Daniel came. 598 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,360 And then me and Daniel actually end up hitting it off a little 599 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,320 bit before he even left because he left a few weeks later and 600 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,480 they had a thing for him at his church where his dad pastored. 601 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,920 So I go to his church and then, you know, I finally, you know, 602 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,920 we get to have a really good conversation about, you know, 603 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,480 Taiwan. I get to meet his family, me, 604 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,800 his mom, dad, sisters, brother and. 605 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,320 Yeah. Off RIP. 606 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,200 You're still living with your roommate. 607 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,360 Still living with my roommate so at this. 608 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,600 Time. Don't do it. 609 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,560 This is a long time. OK, so still living with a 610 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,440 roommate. Yes. 611 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,320 And nothing, nothing's happening. 612 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,600 I probably nothing was happening during all of this. 613 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,760 So yeah, Daniel knew. He knew about my testimony. 614 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,080 He knew he knew her. They actually talked a few times 615 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,240 like we were, we're all good, you know. 616 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,400 But while he's in Taiwan, maybe like a month before he gets 617 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,160 back, like there's a whole situation occurred which caused 618 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,120 distrust with him and my roommate nuts not not with me as 619 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,600 much. They butt head to get bit, you 620 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,240 know, while he was gone. So it's like, yeah, I want you 621 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,440 to move out. And I'm just like, I can't. 622 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,680 Like, where am I going to go where you want me to live on the 623 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,320 streets? Like I don't I don't have 624 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,720 anybody else to move in with. You know, we ended up breaking 625 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:47,520 up for a little while, which, you know, for me, I was so upset 626 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,400 about it. I was upset with my roommate. 627 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,760 I was upset with him. So I have made the decision to 628 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,720 move back to Arizona with my family. 629 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Daniel ends up coming back from Taiwan and me and my roommate 630 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,080 were at AVBS at our church. We're having VBS. 631 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,240 And before he even came back, I told him I said, hey, we need to 632 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,320 meet up and talk before we bump into each other awkwardly, you 633 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,880 know, And it happened at VBS at our church. 634 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,640 Right when he comes back, yes and you kind of skipped over 635 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,880 this, but like y'all just broke up right before he's coming 636 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,520 home. The day before. 637 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,520 Yes, the day before I thought it was like a week. 638 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,720 I'm like, well, a day. Before day. 639 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Before he gets back after eight months of long distance 8 640 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,720 months. OK, I know later on he's like, I 641 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,320 knew as soon as I saw you, I still wanted to be with you. 642 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640 I'm like, well, I've made the choice to go back to Arizona. 643 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,000 Yeah, And I'm going and I'm sticking to it. 644 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,200 Eventually we end up, you know, talking about and everything. 645 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,320 Him and my roommate, we were able to reconcile and you know, 646 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,480 everything left on really good terms. 647 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,800 Like everybody was cool. We all gave hugs. 648 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,320 So Danielle ended up helping us move because she ended up 649 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,800 getting a job in Alabama. So I moved to Arizona during 650 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800 that time, more, more long distance. 651 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440 Me and him are still in touch and we're talking. 652 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,920 Long story short, he ends up flying out to Arizona and then I 653 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,680 end up driving back with him. But yeah, I end up going back 654 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,680 and it's just like, I know you know what I want. 655 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,040 He knows what he wants. It's just like, why not? 656 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,080 And we end up getting married. And of course, he got permission 657 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,400 from my parents. He got the blessing. 658 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,360 We both did. He asked me to marry him. 659 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:32,280 On February 13th, I was engaged. February 15th we were married. 660 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,640 Long engagement, 48 hours. 48 hours and it was. 661 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,840 When you know, you know. Yeah, when you know, like 662 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,200 there's no point in waiting. So it's like if you if you can 663 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,560 make it a short. OK, so you and Daniel are 664 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080 married. Y'all have Aurora a few few 665 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960 years later. Like how does being a wife and a 666 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,320 mother just like reflect God's faithfulness in your life? 667 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,320 Like after your struggles and like, after all of that, like 668 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 picking up those broken pieces and making something so 669 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:02,360 beautiful. Like how? 670 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160 Like I just feel like that would be so surreal. 671 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,560 Yeah. So I mean, I would say being a 672 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:13,080 wife and a mother is a miracle in itself. 673 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:17,040 And it shows that, you know, God still works miracles because he 674 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,560 worked more through me, me coming out of that lifestyle. 675 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,840 You know, I was, I figured, you know, I'm going to be like Paul. 676 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,120 You know, Paul didn't get married. 677 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,719 He didn't have a wife. You know, he was there strictly 678 00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:33,480 to disciple and to plant churches and to grow people in 679 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,679 Christ. And that was my mindset coming 680 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,159 out of it. Like keeping up with Daniel was 681 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,040 was just keeping up with him. I had no intentions of dating 682 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,719 this man or, you know, I didn't like him like that at 1st. 683 00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:51,199 And you know, over time my desires change because God gave 684 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,800 me those desire stories. But I would say, you know, if 685 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,720 there's a reflection of grace and mercy, it is going to be 686 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:02,800 shown to you through marriage and through having children 687 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,440 because you see the love of Christ and his patience with us 688 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,880 and just his faithfulness. And you have to have that, 689 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080 especially with kids, but especially with your spouse 690 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,120 because it's marriage is not perfect. 691 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,920 And you literally have to choose to love this person every day 692 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,080 through the the good, bad and ugly. 693 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:28,320 You know, you can have that free gift of forgiveness and grace. 694 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,200 I mean, if you want it really, you, you ask and you surrender 695 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,400 it to God. And I mean, seeing what he's 696 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,000 done in my life, especially mine, you know, because I, I 697 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,680 didn't picture this for myself 10 years ago. 698 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,640 I just pictured myself in the lifestyle I was in. 699 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,600 And then coming out of it, I pictured me as a single woman 700 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,040 for the rest of my life. Seeing what God has done in my 701 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,200 life, you know, it's not impossible for anybody thinking 702 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,360 it is, you know it's not. And you learn how to trust God, 703 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,600 you know, and everything. And because I gave up what I 704 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,120 thought was everything, I gained so much more. 705 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,960 More than you could ever dream. About he gave me so much more, 706 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:15,800 you know, the family, kids just trusting him and literally 707 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,120 letting go and letting God. I know you've heard that saying 708 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,000 yes, yes, let go and let God literally let go. 709 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,400 It is so true that like you didn't see yourself coming out 710 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,560 of that you, I mean you when you're in a storm or you know, a 711 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:35,720 lifestyle and you feel like there is no way out there is. 712 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:40,200 So it's so hard to see past like what God can do because like, 713 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,400 even as a believer, we will put God in a box sometimes and we'll 714 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,320 say he can do it for them, but he ain't going to do it for me. 715 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,600 Or yeah, he did that, but he's not going to do this like and we 716 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,080 just get so fixated on there's no way out. 717 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,920 And for you, when you surrendered, you started seeing 718 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,800 the way out. You started seeing that light up 719 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,760 end of the tunnel. Like slowly but surely, yes. 720 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,000 And that's part of that sanctification process. 721 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000 You know, like the longer we walk with him, the longer we, 722 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,360 you know, just try to seek him and do the things that he's 723 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:24,320 calling us to do, it becomes more apparent that life can 180 724 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,600 and honestly, as like that. Yeah, like. 725 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,520 Really, yes. So as far as like giving my life 726 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,560 to Christ and you know, just allowing him to work in my life, 727 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,160 I want to point out the Scripture because you know, when 728 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,480 you you, you have a new desire, you got a new desire, you have a 729 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,880 mission, you got purpose. So you figured out that purpose 730 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,960 because living, especially the lifestyle I was living in, you 731 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,840 know, that conviction hit me and I'm just like, what am I doing? 732 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,120 Like it? It makes you question your 733 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,840 purpose in life for real. Because I mean, you're in such a 734 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,960 dark place blindly. You don't even know you're in a 735 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:11,000 dark place. And so you start to question a 736 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,520 lot. And that's where the question of 737 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,960 eternity came with. That conviction is just like, 738 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,320 all right, what do I do now? So pointing us to 2nd 739 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:27,640 Corinthians chapter 5 verse 17 and it says therefore, if anyone 740 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,320 is in Christ, he is a new creation. 741 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,080 The old has passed away and see the new has come and going back 742 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,600 to my life, you know, he transformed me and you know, 743 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,920 just blessed me with the life that I have now. 744 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,800 Again, something I didn't see for myself, but also that's 745 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:50,400 because I was seeing through through the lens of what could I 746 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,720 do? Not through your own strength, 747 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,400 right? Not through what? 748 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,840 What can Jesus do? Yep, Yep. 749 00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:00,160 Maybe somebody is listening to this that is going through some 750 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,920 similar struggles or in that lifestyle, like what are you 751 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,440 hoping that they take away from this or like what some advice 752 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,800 that you would give them? I would definitely say that 753 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,800 don't ever get to a place where you think that you're too far 754 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,560 gone for Jesus to work in you because you know, the Bible says 755 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,760 he's at the door knocking. And I'm not going to say he's 756 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,120 always at the door knocking because you know, if your heart 757 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,520 is so hard, he will give you over to your desires. 758 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:35,920 But I would say there is hope and you just got to open that 759 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,200 door. You got to allow him to come 760 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,520 into your life and, you know, do what he's going to do. 761 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,360 You trust God with everything that you have by just letting 762 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,600 him in. Literally, there's nothing that 763 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,640 I did on my own strength. It took the praying of my mom. 764 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,440 I'm pretty sure Chief was praying for us too. 765 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,280 There's no way he wasn't. And just surrounding yourself 766 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:04,360 with people who genuinely love you and who genuinely love God. 767 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,720 I'm talking to the Christians now. 768 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,480 But as Christians, one of the most important, not just loving 769 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,480 Christ, but loving others. And I feel like as Christians, a 770 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:19,040 lot of us get it wrong because we do want to Bible thump or we 771 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,480 come in so headstrong and focus on, OK, I got to tell these 772 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,040 people the gospel. I got to tell them the gospel. 773 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,000 And you miss out on building that rapport. 774 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,200 You miss out bidding on to that friendship. 775 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,200 Also being too soft hearted, as far as like you know, I don't 776 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,720 want to offend them. Like you don't. 777 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,360 You don't have to worry about none of that. 778 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:43,400 You worry about them and you worry about loving them, not 779 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,840 their sin, of course, but loving them because remember, you are 780 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,440 in sin. You are in sin and what, what 781 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,320 would be approachable for you if someone was to come into your 782 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,480 life and like leading you and guiding you? 783 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,560 What? How would you want them to to do 784 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,760 that? Think about that. 785 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,520 Matthew 22. OK, this one, the Pharisees were 786 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,000 asking Jesus. They're trying to stump them 787 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,720 with questions. So I'm going to start from 34. 788 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,120 When the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they 789 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,400 came together and one of them, an expert in the law, asked a 790 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,240 question to test him, Jesus, to test Jesus Teacher, which 791 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,800 commandment in the law is the greatest? 792 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,080 And he says to him, love the Lord your God with all your 793 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,880 heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. 794 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,600 This is the greatest and most important commandment. 795 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,480 The second is like it, love your neighbor as yourself. 796 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,240 All the law and the prophet depend on these two 797 00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,040 commandments. So I feel like it's Christians, 798 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,080 we need to just love people. I would say, you know, if I feel 799 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,000 like I have to force it, then I'm probably going to put a 800 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,320 pause and just be a friend and just be a good friend and just 801 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,760 love them and try to live more through example, not not as a 802 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,040 like, look at me, look at what I'm doing, but just being a 803 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,920 friend. And then I have found that in 804 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,720 those kind of friendships, the questions start to come because 805 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:12,480 they become curious as to why she's so happy or, you know, why 806 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,560 does she live that way? And again, it's not a look at 807 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,480 me. It's just like, all right, Lord, 808 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,720 our conversations aren't flowing the way I want them to flow. 809 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,920 And, you know, I think that's God even telling us to just just 810 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,640 be there. Yeah, that's good. 811 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,360 That's good, girl. All right, Well, that was 812 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,240 awesome. I'm so glad that you came on 813 00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:33,400 here. Thank you so much. 814 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,640 This went so good girl. Thank you for having me, yes. 815 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,720 All right, guys. So we hope you enjoyed it today. 816 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,480 We pray that you stay tuned, stay blessed and we'll see you 817 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,720 guys later. Bye.