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What's up guys, my name is 
Alexis Brown, your host with 

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praises in the pod. 
And I am so excited that y'all 

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tuned back in for our Part 2 of 
Abby's story. 

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And you might notice we have a 
new guest with us, Dexter, her 

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husband. 
Yay. 

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So we are so excited to just 
jump right in. 

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So let's start with prayer for 
this episode and we'll we'll get

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started. 
Lord Heavenly Father, thank you 

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for today. 
Thank you for all your many 

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blessings. 
Dear God, thank you for allowing

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Abby to come on here and share 
what you have done in her life, 

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Lord, thank you for having your 
hand on top of her through all 

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of it, Lord, the good, the bad, 
the ugly. 

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You were just in the midst of 
that and you saw the light in 

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her when we didn't see the light
in her and when we didn't know 

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what was what you were doing or 
why you were doing it, Lord. 

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But we see the good in it now, 
Lord, and we just pray that we 

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continue to tell our stories and
we continue to tell our 

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testimonies, Lord, and we just 
pray that this is used for your 

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glory and your glory alone, 
Lord. 

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So speak to us and through US in
Jesus name I pray. 

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Amen, Amen. 
All right, so Dexter, what is 

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up? 
Man, what's going on? 

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This is like the first time I've
had like two people on here. 

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So this is like different. 
It's weird. 

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I like it though, it's cool. 
So can you tell us a little bit 

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about your background, like not 
going into too much and just 

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tell us a little bit what you're
comfortable with, but tell us 

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about a little bit about 
yourself? 

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All right, So obviously born and
raised right here in middle 

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Georgia, I was brought up in 
just a Christian home, very 

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traditional Christian home. 
We went to church every Sunday, 

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Wednesday night, Sunday night. 
You know, God was really a part 

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of our lives, you know, starting
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I got saved when I was seven, 
never really had any kind of 

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trauma as far as my family goes,
Like never really had any kind 

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of events or anything that 
really steered me away from the 

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Lord, you know, and that is kind
of opposite of Abby's story. 

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But I feel that in that 
upbringing you can be very idle.

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You can get very lukewarm with 
that because you don't see the 

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things of the world you're 
almost like sheltered in. 

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A Bible? 
Your own little Christian 

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bubble. 
Like you don't know. 

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Right, so you kind of it kind of
shelters you in a way. 

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So you know, I I grew up that 
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That's kind of how I was raised.
And I've still got a great 

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family, got great morals based 
off of that. 

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But I really got kind of a a 
shock when I started just kind 

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of making adult decisions and, 
you know, seeing things with the

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world. 
And so that kind of led me down 

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a path that ultimately I knew 
was not the correct path that I 

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needed to get back, you know, 
devoted walking with God every 

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single day. 
Abby, you know, touched on how 

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she started taking a 12 step, 
you know, after she just hit 

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rock bottom, she surrendered and
all this stuff. 

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And so I feel like from my POV, 
like it was like shortly after 

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that surrender that y'all kind 
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Like I think so tell us a little
bit about like how y'all met, 

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how y'all started dating, you 
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is so cute to me. 
Like I love y'all's first date 

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so y'all take it. 
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I think I kind of had my 
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giving my life to Christ around 
November or so. 

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And I would say that next end of
June, end of June in 2020 was 

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when we met and started talking 
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And I'll kind of let Dexter 
touch on how we met because it's

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just so funny. 
And looking back now, it's 

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really cute. 
But he's such a he's good at 

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telling that story. 
Yeah, so we met really on just 

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interactions on Instagram, which
is kind of funny because neither

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of us have that anymore. 
No, y'all don't. 

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Actually, I forget about that. 
Y'all don't OK? 

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So that's how it all started. 
So we started messaging on 

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Instagram. 
We had, you know, a lot of 

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people that we knew in common. 
A lot of we had crossed paths, 

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you know, a lot, but never 
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And we did not realize that 
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knew all of the same people grew
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other so and had never actually 
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Yep. 
So, you know, we just kind of 

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bonded right off the bat from 
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And and then, you know, I kind 
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would you like to go on a date? 
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kind of meet up and go on a 
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So I asked her if she wanted to 
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She said no. 
And I was like, well, what Like 

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what do you mean? 
You know, this is what we do or 

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what I'm supposed to do. 
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something fun. 
Like I want to do something 

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different. 
Just trying to be different. 

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I'm just trying to be different.
No, I don't want to go out and 

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eat. 
Do something different with. 

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Me, no, because I, for me, that 
environment is just not very 

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telling of who a person is. 
And so there was so much depth 

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to him that I realized right off
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I mean, and talking on the phone
that I was like, I really want 

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to just be genuine and 
transparent with each other 

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right off the bat. 
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So I was like, OK, you like to 
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I mean, you know, I mean, I've 
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For a long time, just outdoors, 
period. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So she was like, yeah. 

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So at the time, you know, I, 
I've grown up with older 

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brothers. 
So I really was a Tom girl 

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growing up my whole life. 
But in that moment, I will say I

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was not a huge fan of fishing. 
But at that time, whenever he 

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asked me, absolutely. 
No doubt about it. 

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Love the fish. 
I love it. 

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I remember that day we were 
talking about what you were 

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gonna wear and stuff and you're 
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And you said some spaghetti 
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Skirt or something, and I'll say
end of June. 

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I'm like Abby, no, please don't.
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So I had a family cabin and it 
had a pond and it's about 45 

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minutes from 1 Robin. 
So I don't know really like how 

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she was going to react to that. 
So anyway, I, I said, well, 

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let's, let's do it like let's 
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fishing. 
I'll show you the the cabin and 

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the property and stuff. 
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And I just remember, you know, I
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earlier that day because I was 
planning to cook spaghetti for 

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dinner while we were there. 
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pack of deer meat and put it in 
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And between me go and do it and 
doing that and then us actually 

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going with each other out there.
My dad went out there and you 

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know, he would just go out there
for just any, any old anything 

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and. 
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He he texts me and he's like, 
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And I was like, what are you 
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Because we were like about to 
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Yeah. 
I was about to pick Abby up for 

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the first time, meet in person, 
take her out there. 

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And I was like, what are you 
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Like you got to leave you. 
Got to go, you got to go. 

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And I'm I bet it didn't even 
look good either because you're 

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like. 
Yeah, it didn't really look 

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good. 
He's kind of like what is 

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happening? 
Like, you know, he could tell 

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and and that I had been there 
and I was like, man, I'll tell 

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you later. 
Like and I'm living with my dad 

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at this point, like I'm in his 
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So anyway, we go and I remember 
we went down to the pond and and

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I was showing Abby, you know, 
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And I was like, you know, I want
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to do all this. 
And anyway, so I turned around 

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and she's got the cork like 
halfway out into the pond, like 

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before I can even do anything. 
And I think that was the moment 

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that I really fell in love. 
Ask my woman. 

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Yeah, I was pretty much ready to
call the preacher at that time. 

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But anyways, we, you know, 
caught a few fish and had a good

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time. 
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cabin and just had cooked 
spaghetti that I cook still to 

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this day all the time. 
Anyway, so we had dinner and we 

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left and we came back to town, 
went and got Dairy Queen and. 

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I mean, this was a long date 
because I remember I'm sitting 

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there like what's going on? 
What's going on? 

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I'm looking at abbye location. 
She's still out there. 

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I'm like Abby. 
I mean I'm texting my other 

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friend Kristen. 
I'm like Kristen, they are still

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out there. 
What is going on? 

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And then even when she got to 
town, I'm like, okay, she's 

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about to call. 
Yeah, I mean, like it was just 

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steel like it. 
Was a long first date, which I 

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did do my due diligence because 
when he told me where we were 

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going, I was kind of like, oh 
gosh, like that's kind of far 

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away But you know, I knew him 
from other people and I called 

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like my aunt and I called some 
people I'm like, do you know 

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this person? 
And they were like, Oh my 

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goodness, yes, that's Dexter 
Gordy. 

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Like he is an Angel this and 
that. 

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And so if it made me feel more 
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him and yeah, it just turned 
into a such a long because we 

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were just fishing. 
It was just so easy. 

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Yeah, it was just the easiest 
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Right off the RIP. 
Right off the RIP. 

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So we came back and got some ice
cream at Dairy Queen and I ended

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up going over to my parents 
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I had had to move back home and 
he had moved back home as well 

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from Kennesaw. 
But when he went to drop me off,

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he actually came inside and my 
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Right off the RIP, just. 
No, my dad was right there. 

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Yeah. 
So you know Mike Mays, he's 

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right there. 
And I'm like, hey, Sir, how are 

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you doing? 
And he's kind of looking at me, 

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like studying me, you know, like
looking me up and down. 

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And I'm like, man, this guy's 
really like checking me out. 

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Like, you know, I could, I could
just sense it. 

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I could feel it like he wasn't 
really saying much. 

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And he was just kind of like, 
just give these stairs. 

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And her mom was just, you know, 
being real sweet and talking to 

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me about what? 
What do you do? 

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All this stuff. 
So anyway, yeah, first date met 

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her parents. 
Wow. 

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Yeah. 
So and then of course I go home 

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and I had to explain to my dad 
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On and it didn't look good again
cuz you had been gone all day 

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long. 
So yeah, you had to go home and 

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just tell him like, well, I 
think I just met my wife, 

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actually. 
Yeah, Yeah, essentially, yeah. 

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So like what exactly like felt 
like, I know that it was easy 

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and stuff, but like did 
something happen like where you 

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just really knew like this, this
is different. 

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This is. 
Different definitely from the 

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very first few hours of just 
being with him. 

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There was a different light 
about him, you know, in in 

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saying that literally there was 
a a pure light about him. 

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He had gotten me flowers, you 
know, he was doing all the 

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gentleman stuff and he opened my
door and at in the cabin, he had

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actually set up a little table 
with flowers in it for us to sit

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out and eat spaghetti and just 
such a like gentleman. 

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And not in the sense that he was
trying to do it, but that that 

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was just natural. 
That's just who he is. 

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That's just who he is. 
And what really let me know that

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something was totally different 
from anybody else I'd ever dated

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was our first date. 
And we sat down to eat dinner. 

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Well, first I just thought it 
was the sweetest thing ever that

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he cooked for us. 
But we sat down and he's like, 

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can I pray over us? 
And I was like, absolutely like,

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wow, you know, because for 
someone to say like, you know, 

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I'm a Christian and, you know, I
have a relationship with God or 

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I believe in God, this and that.
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kind of easy. 
But to like do it in front, 

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especially in front of somebody 
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And for him to like, I think we 
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over us and prayed over the meal
just showed a different, like, 

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there was a huge distinction. 
Yeah. 

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Right off the RIP from Meeting 
Hill. 

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Well, you know, and like, I was,
I was telling you how I was 

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struggling with something 
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was like, I feel like I'm being 
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But then I remember, like, if 
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peace. 
Yes, because he's the Prince of 

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Peace, you know? 
So like when you're saying this,

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like I can feel the peace in the
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It doesn't feel forced. 
It doesn't feel like, Oh my 

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gosh, like, what do we talk 
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What do we do? 
Like there was just a peace 

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about the date. 
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And then when he started to 
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Sir, yeah. 
Exactly. 

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That's, I mean, that's really 
thank you, God. 

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Yes. 
I was like, wow, maybe God 

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really did send this man. 
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prior to, you know, after going 
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doing all of that, one thing I 
really started to do was pray 

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for my husband. 
I didn't know who it was. 

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I didn't have a husband at the 
time, you know what I mean? 

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But I was praying for my 
husband. 

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I had never done that before. 
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And I mean, like, I would get on
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kneel and just pray for whoever 
my husband was going to be. 

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And I wanted to learn to do 
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And so like you're saying, there
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that day because I felt like or 
I knew like God, this is from. 

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God, yeah. 
And when it is from God, like 

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you do know, right off the roof.
And you know what, now that I'm 

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thinking about it, when me and 
Greg first started dating, I 

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told Abby, I said I love that 
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And we have been together about 
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And she said you don't even know
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And so when y'all started dating
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acting the same way I did, I 
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but like, when you know, you 
know. 

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Yeah. 
And that's just something you 

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can't really explain to people 
like, you know, so. 

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I I literally told my mom that 
night after our first date. 

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I was like, I'm going to marry 
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Man. 
Like, I just know that this is 

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this isn't like meant to be. 
That's awesome. 

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So another thing that really 
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think it was our second or third
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but we had went 8 Mexican, still
one of our favorite things to do

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period. 
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driving around just talking just
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I mean, we could talk for hours 
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much, but I had this heavy heart
about telling him about my past.

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I was scared to death because 
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Like as soon as I tell him he's 
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look at me like, whoa, you know,
this girl is totally different 

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than any other girl dated. 
I don't know if I'm ready to 

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like, get into this mess. 
So I just had a ton of fears. 

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And I didn't want to continue to
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transparent because I wanted to 
give him that opportunity 

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because I knew from the very 
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good man, that he deserved that 
opportunity to know about my 

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past and have make that decision
for himself that this is 

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somebody I want to continue to 
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that. 
So I just remember I was driving

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and I was freaking out. 
I mean, my heart was racing 

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because I knew I needed to tell 
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know, tell him now, like just go
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him and tell him everything. 
And so I did. 

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I was like, you know, this is 
what's happened in my past. 

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I'm divorced and here's why. 
And I told him the details. 

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Why? 
And he just looked at me and was

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just like, I knew that already. 
I just was waiting on you to 

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tell me when you were 
comfortable to tell me. 

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But Jesus loves you and Jesus 
has forgiven you, so I can't 

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look at you any different. 
And he just came to me with open

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arms and I felt like in that 
moment I was sitting with Jesus.

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Don't look at yourself like 
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You are loved, you are forgiven,
and there's nothing else I want 

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to do other than date you. 
I mean, you know, that doesn't 

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stop me. 
Yeah. 

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So it was just like a huge 
relief for me. 

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I remember that vividly. 
I do. 

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I guess my mindset at that time,
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past or in past relationships, 
that probably would have been a 

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red flag. 
Yeah. 

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That would have been something 
that would have kind of made me 

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go, let's re evaluate this a 
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have reservations. 
But it was like I had none. 

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I knew like I had a piece about 
Abby. 

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I knew that she had gone. 
It's almost like I knew I 

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didn't. 
I didn't even know her well, but

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I knew that she had gone through
those things to be with me, to 

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like actually meet me. 
You know, like God had put her 

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through those things in her 
life, those, those hard times to

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meet me right where I was at and
I was a mess. 

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Like I didn't have it all 
together. 

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But for some reason, I, I just, 
I gave her grace and I, I, it's,

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it's just kind of hard to 
explain as to why it was, you 

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know, done that way or why I 
said what I said, but. 

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Well, you know when it's 
ordained by God. 

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I mean, you don't. 
You don't have an explanation. 

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You just know that because 
sometimes, sometimes, like I 

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remember recently, I was in a 
position and I'm like, I was 

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supposed to go down to the altar
and help some girls pray and all

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this. 
And I'm like, gosh, I do not 

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like, I don't know if they tell 
me that they're ready to get 

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saved, like I'm scared to walk 
them through it or whatever, but

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like God spoke to me and through
me, you know, in that. 

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And so like that's what you're 
saying is like in that 

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situation, I mean, that wasn't 
you. 

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That was just God speaking 
through you and saying you have 

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been forgiven. 
Who am I to judge you for that? 

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You know, like, so that's just 
so big. 

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And, you know, early on you said
that, you know, you grew up in a

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Christian household. 
You saw your parents live out 

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their faith and stuff like that.
And you were like, so I didn't 

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really experience that stuff, 
but we didn't experience, you 

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know, having spiritual eyes as a
young age. 

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And so like, when you are in 
that position, like you had 

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those spiritual eyes to see that
God used that for his glory and 

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everything else. 
So like what we would have 

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thought was, you know, for evil,
you already were seeing God had 

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his hand in that like he 
already, you know, knew all of 

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this and what was it going to 
come of this? 

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So. 
That's a huge, that's a huge 

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testimony to how he was able to 
show grace. 

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Yes, because he had been shown 
grace so much in his life and he

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had seen that. 
So it was just like God working 

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through him so easily just to, 
you know, you're forgiven. 

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I'm giving you grace. 
Yeah. 

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It was, you know, a part of who 
he was. 

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Yeah, I, I think, you know, my 
foundation and my upbringing 

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and, and everything, even though
at the time, like I wasn't 100% 

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living for the Lord, but because
of how I was raised and the 

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morals that I had and just, you 
know, my, I guess my, my 

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spiritual life. 
I knew that I, I knew how to, I 

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knew what kind of relationship I
wanted and I knew that it was 

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going to take that in order to 
make this work with Abby. 

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I knew that it that there, 
there, there could be no. 

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You know, fleshly desires with 
her, there could be no worldly 

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reaction to her past or what she
had done. 

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That's good. 
You know, So I think, I think I,

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I had, I've been taught lesson 
after lesson after lesson on 

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that my whole life. 
But here it is. 

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It's got to get put into play 
now. 

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Like I know what I got to do. 
I know all this stuff. 

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But here, this is the time. 
Like this is what? 

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Because here's the thing, I 
mean, even today, like we 

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constantly have to show each 
other grace. 

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You know, we're not perfect in 
our marriage and I'm not perfect

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in my life. 
He's not either. 

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So, you know, it's like from the
RIP we, we did that with each 

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other and it's almost made the 
foundation of just forgiveness 

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and grace like that much easier 
in our relationship just because

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it started that way. 
Yeah, you know, the 

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communication was good right off
the RIP. 

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Yes, that's crazy. 
That's awesome transparency. 

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So y'all you, you, you tell him 
where all you've been, what all 

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you've done, all this stuff and 
you know, he's just like I, I'm,

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who am I, you know, to judge 
you. 

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And so like, that's a whole 
different thing too. 

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That just shows right off the 
RIP a different type of person 

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that you know, you, you haven't 
experienced or haven't been 

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with. 
So. 

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So what else in y'all's 
relationship was different than 

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anything? 
Gosh, I mean, there was so much 

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that was just so different. 
Everything that we wanted or saw

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in a future lined up and that 
would that was really, you know,

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we wanted our relationship to be
founded on the gospel. 

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So, you know, giving our, having
our hearts, really following the

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Lord and doing the relationship 
his way. 

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Yeah, that's how we wanted to 
raise kids if we ever had kids, 

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just because we knew especially 
him knew the difference. 

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Or, you know, Saul, growing up 
in in that Christian home, in 

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that Christian environment and 
just having that stability, 

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there were so many other things 
that just lined up with who we 

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are, you know? 
Well, you know, and when I'm 

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thinking of that is how we 
talked about earlier or last 

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week that the grandfather going 
to church every single Sunday 

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and then it drops off and then 
it becomes optional and then the

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next one's non existent. 
And like for Dexter, you know, 

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his generations are there, you 
know, so like he is bringing. 

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So that's something that we both
wanted, you know, as we said, 

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and and so that like watching 
his family like attend every 

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single Sunday, you know, not 
just those church, church Sunday

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churchgoers, like they're 
involved, they're in a 

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community, they're walking it 
out like and everything. 

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And so like him doing the same 
now, you know, and leading your 

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family in the same way that his 
dad led his family. 

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Like it's just such a testament 
of what we talked about of those

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generations, you know? 
And I just love that because 

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y'all are raising y'all's 
daughter that way, you know? 

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And. 
So I'll say another thing is too

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about Abby and I. 
You know, they say that you 

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marry the person, but you also 
marry their family, right? 

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So OK, let's touch on that a 
little bit. 

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Blessed. 
Dexter. 

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So, you know, I'll say that our 
families meshed very well, very 

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fast. 
You know, basically when they 

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met, it was kind of like, you 
know, you kind of get that first

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little awkward like uptight 
dinner or something, you know, 

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something like that. 
But and it was like after that, 

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like they, you know, they were 
all the same people. 

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I mean, our dads were watching 
NASCAR races together. 

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I mean, you know, we we were all
in a hunting club before we knew

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anything else. 
I mean, we were all just kind of

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intertwined like within weeks. 
And you know, I think that's a 

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that's a just a big testament to
I guess that gives you like some

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somewhat of a reassurance, 
right? 

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Somewhat of a reassurance when 
you know, you meet somebody, 

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you're really attracted to them,
you you really like that person.

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But if it really becomes serious
or you think that it can be 

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serious, like that's more of a 
reassurance and more of a green 

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light. 
OK, this is good. 

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You know, our families actually 
like each other. 

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They like me. 
My family likes her like that's.

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There are so many things 
happening that just really 

443
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,400
showed us more and more like 
this is meant to be. 

444
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,640
But I will say, you know, when 
we were first started talking 

445
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:53,000
and dating, another thing that 
just sticks out is a memory of 

446
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:56,320
what was so different about this
relationship was I just remember

447
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,680
having like, a really raw 
conversation with Dexter and 

448
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,840
being like, you know, do you 
party? 

449
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,720
Like, do you go out to bars and 
drink and stuff? 

450
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,360
And at the time, he was really 
like, no, I'm not really into 

451
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:11,000
that scene or really like a bar 
person and going out and living 

452
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,520
that kind of life. 
So I mean, that was like, oh, 

453
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,120
wow, OK, that's great. 
At the time, it was hard to, you

454
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:18,520
know, find that, you know, all 
of our guy friends. 

455
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,920
That's just what you did. 
But then I remember, too, he was

456
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,240
like, yeah, my parents don't 
drink or anything either. 

457
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,640
Like, you know, they're 
Christians. 

458
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,400
They raised this in a Christian 
home. 

459
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,520
And I was like, wow, that's 
awesome because neither do my 

460
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,360
parents. 
Like, that's just going to be. 

461
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,760
It just makes it so much easier.
And I'm not saying that every 

462
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,080
relationship will only work that
way. 

463
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,320
Yeah, Right. 
I mean, anything God can make 

464
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,880
good out of anything. 
But I'm just saying that was 

465
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,120
just things that really stood 
out to us. 

466
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,400
That was like, OK, wow, you 
know, this. 

467
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,520
It just gets easier and easier. 
Yeah, because I like right when 

468
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,400
y'all first started dating, 
y'all's parents met. 

469
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560
I mean, they really did like. 
Best friends. 

470
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,440
Best friends, Mike and John 
besties for the rest. 

471
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,240
Yeah. 
You know, so it's like in the 

472
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,760
end, like when you come to find 
out that, you know, John doesn't

473
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,720
drink and your dad's, you know, 
sober and, you know, like fall 

474
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,240
in the Lord and had broke those 
chains of addiction and 

475
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,800
everything. 
It's like, well, they were 

476
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,720
destined to be best friends too,
you know? 

477
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800
Like. 
Yeah, so and then, and then I'll

478
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,160
say another thing about just our
families. 

479
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:26,160
So what Abby had to tell me, you
know, on our second or third 

480
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,680
date about her past, she also 
told my family. 

481
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,720
So the fact that I had the 
reaction that I had with the 

482
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,360
grace that I was able to show my
family also had the same 

483
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:45,880
reaction. 
And I remember that conversation

484
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,080
vividly, too. 
I mean, you know, my parents are

485
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000
sitting on one couch across the 
living room and we're sitting on

486
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,560
another. 
And Abby just lays it all out. 

487
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,680
So how did that conversation 
like come about? 

488
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,480
Like you just called your 
parents was like hey, we need to

489
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,880
talk to y'all or. 
Yeah, I don't think it was 

490
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,120
planned like that. 
I think we were just, I don't, I

491
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,440
don't really remember the 
setting, but I mean, I think we 

492
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,720
had kind of talked about some 
things and and Abby. 

493
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,600
Well, their favorite thing to do
is like later in the evenings, 

494
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,360
which is when we would all hang 
out, we'd all be making cups of 

495
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:23,880
coffee and eating like some 
dessert. 

496
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,040
Yeah, coffee with honey in it. 
Yes, honey. 

497
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,080
And so we would all just sit 
around the living room and just 

498
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,120
kind of talk and stuff. 
And cuz I don't really remember 

499
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,360
the exact setting day, what we 
were doing, but I just know that

500
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,680
that was kind of a part of what 
we would do when we would all 

501
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,720
hang out with each other and 
stuff in the evenings. 

502
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,080
Because really and truly, he 
loved being with my family. 

503
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,480
You know, as much as I loved 
being around his, it didn't 

504
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,880
always just have to be me and 
Dexter. 

505
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,120
We actually loved all hanging 
out together. 

506
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Yeah, y'all need like a 
compound. 

507
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,720
Y'all all just live on the same 
property, yeah? 

508
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Yeah. 
You know, mine actually has. 

509
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,200
He's Tracy. 
He would love that he. 

510
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,520
Would love it. 
Yeah, he would. 

511
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,720
John specifically like just 
being right there. 

512
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960
But yeah, nobody would be in 
their own house is the problem. 

513
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,320
Right. 
Anyway, so just to kind of wrap 

514
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,440
that up, I mean, I just remember
like my parents just like 

515
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,960
rapping Abby in love, you know, 
they just hugged her and was 

516
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:25,560
like, we're we're here for you. 
Like we we are like we're no 

517
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,280
better. 
We're no better. 

518
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,640
Just because we don't have the 
same testimony that you do, 

519
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,920
like, doesn't mean that you're 
not accepted into our family. 

520
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:41,280
And I think that at that point, 
like, that was all I needed. 

521
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Yeah. 
Like that was kind of it for me.

522
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,280
Delivered. 
Yeah. 

523
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Like I was ready. 
Yeah. 

524
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,920
So we had all of these things 
happening whenever we first 

525
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,400
started dating. 
That was just giving us 

526
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,720
reassurance after reassurance 
that this was meant to be and 

527
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000
that this was, you know, 
ultimately going to work out. 

528
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,960
And there's a verse, always love
verses that just, you know, 

529
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,560
stick out to me. 
At that time, it was Romans 827 

530
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
through 28. 
And the Father who knows all 

531
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,640
hearts knows what the Spirit is 
saying. 

532
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,880
For the Spirit pleads for us 
believers in harmony with God's 

533
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,880
own will. 
And we know that God causes 

534
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,480
everything to work together for 
the good of those who love God 

535
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,000
and are called according to his 
purpose for them. 

536
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,360
So God had a plan to work all of
that mess out for good and for 

537
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,080
God to receive all of the glory.
And that was really evident in 

538
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,120
our relationship even from the 
very beginning. 

539
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000
First date. 
It was destined, it was peace. 

540
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Yep. 
Yeah, yeah. 

541
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,840
So I mean from that point on 
just the first initial dates it 

542
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,840
was we were together every day 
at some point, sometimes all 

543
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,560
day. 
You just, but I will say that a 

544
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,520
very, a very consistent thing 
that we stuck with was we, we 

545
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,040
send each other verses every 
day. 

546
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,840
We would send each other worship
songs. 

547
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:04,640
You know, we would always, 
always, always some at some 

548
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,720
point in the day try to turn 
back to the Lord, just try to 

549
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:14,680
have some sort of Scripture, 
prayer, worship, whatever it 

550
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,640
was, you know, and I, I truly 
think that, you know, that was 

551
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,960
vital for us. 
Yeah. 

552
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,000
And knowing that God had put 
this together, we really, you 

553
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,800
know, wanted to honor him and 
have a strong foundation because

554
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,440
it's not always going to be 
butterflies and rainbows while 

555
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,720
you're married. 
But no matter what happens 

556
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,280
during your marriage, no matter 
what trials you're going through

557
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,240
in life, money, marriage, kids, 
everything else, you fall back 

558
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,720
to that foundation. 
We want our foundation founded 

559
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,320
on God and we wanted to do 
things his way and not, you 

560
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,160
know, live in sexual sin and and
try to and abstain from that for

561
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,000
marriage and to have that part 
of, you know, that foundation 

562
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,240
because neither one of us had 
been perfect. 

563
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,240
I mean, and we really weren't 
even perfect in our dating gears

564
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,040
and when we had gotten engaged, 
but that was something that we 

565
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,400
really wanted. 
That's. 

566
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,320
Why y'all got married so fast? 
Six months later. 

567
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,160
It was like 7. 
I know that was I was so happy 

568
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:18,000
for y'all, so happy. 
I was so mad at Greg because we 

569
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,480
have been dating like three 
years at that point, like 

570
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,800
everything. 
And I'm like, they just started 

571
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,880
dating and I know like it's, 
it's everybody has their own 

572
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,520
steps. 
Everybody has their own path and

573
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,480
everything. 
But I was like, I'm so happy for

574
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,520
you, you know, like, sorry Greg.
Yeah. 

575
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,160
Now I, you know, they're a month
later, I think. 

576
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,120
You're welcome. 
Yes, thank you. 

577
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Thank you. 
There's so pretty good things 

578
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,120
out of y'all's. 
Relationship, but I'll never 

579
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,840
forget my dad because, gosh, he 
just always goes back to the 

580
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,720
word, you know, he's just going 
to take you back there. 

581
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Hey. 
And he looked at me and he said,

582
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,400
Abby, you're not going to answer
to anybody on this earth. 

583
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,560
Yeah. 
The only person you're going to 

584
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,840
answer to is the Lord. 
And so if he's telling you to do

585
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,840
something or you need to do 
something without living in sin,

586
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,960
you need to do it. 
Yeah. 

587
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,120
He's the only person I'm going 
to answer to nothing. 

588
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,280
No. 
But you know, nothing else 

589
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000
matters. 
And so many times we live our 

590
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,000
life so concerned about what 
people in this world are going 

591
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920
to say. 
And we aren't even concerned 

592
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,680
about what the Lord is saying 
about us. 

593
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,840
And so it was just something 
that stuck with me and and you 

594
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,080
know, I just had to move forward
with it and not care what the 

595
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,720
world and was looking at me like
or what people were saying is 

596
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,600
like, what is the Lord he will 
be pleased with? 

597
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,120
This and I think that's all 
aspects of life, you know like 

598
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,640
as something as silly as TikTok 
OK, cuz y'all know I've been 

599
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,880
posting non-stop, but like I've 
gotten to the play the point 

600
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,160
where I really just don't care 
yeah I'm like I'm making these 

601
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920
tik toks all about God. 
You know, like, and if people 

602
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840
are going to make fun of me for 
talking about God and being bold

603
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,440
and just trying to let other 
people see that like following 

604
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,240
God's fun, we have a great time 
with God, we got a great 

605
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,720
relationship, life is good, like
all this stuff. 

606
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,440
And so like it's just something 
like that, you know, be just, 

607
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,240
who cares what people are 
saying? 

608
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,760
Like the only person we have to 
answer to is God, and he's going

609
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,960
to be proud of me for making 
them tick tocks about. 

610
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,800
Him, that's right, you know, can
I hold it up to him and he be 

611
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,720
proud and that's all that should
matter. 

612
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Yep, exactly. 
All right so y'all have been 

613
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,160
married for how long? 
I would know, but I wasn't 

614
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,280
invited to the wedding so. 
Well, nobody was. 

615
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,560
Well, COVID, COVID. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

616
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,080
January 16th, 2021. 
How has that been, You know, 

617
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,120
walking it out like what do 
y'all have in y'all's marriage 

618
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,840
that like, you know, this is 
what a Christian marriage should

619
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,880
look like. 
This is the some principles that

620
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,720
y'all carry all that like. 
Tell us a little bit about that.

621
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:55,400
Well, I'll say from my side, I 
mean, when we first got married,

622
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,280
I, I will say that my 
relationship with the Lord was 

623
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:05,600
still very lukewarm. 
I had God in, in a box, you 

624
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,080
know, and I would reach in that 
box whenever I needed them. 

625
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:16,159
So, you know, as the leader of 
the household, that can 

626
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:22,199
sometimes affect you a little 
bit, being that it allows, you 

627
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,960
know, you to still kind of have 
one foot in the world and one 

628
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,840
foot in the world. 
Yeah. 

629
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:37,040
So that being said, we had some 
ups and we had some downs, yeah.

630
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:42,159
And probably didn't lead as well
as I should have. 

631
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:45,080
And I know we're kind of Fast 
forward with this, but as I 

632
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:50,920
became a father, I remember like
growing up, my parents never, 

633
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,080
never drank. 
I never saw them drink ever. 

634
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,320
As a kid, when I became a 
father, I was still drinking, 

635
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:07,240
you know, And that was just a 
big conviction that I had. 

636
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
I know what's right. 
I know what I'm supposed to do 

637
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,360
and I've been taught it my whole
life. 

638
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,320
Yet I'm still trying to, trying 
to hold on to this one thing or 

639
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:22,040
these couple things that I want.
And it really was just again, 

640
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,240
going back to other people's 
views of you is really just to 

641
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:31,080
be and feel accepted by some of 
those people you know, and, and,

642
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,440
but still act like and go to 
church and still act like. 

643
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,160
I had it checked. 
In boxes. 

644
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Yeah, right. 
So I really, really got 

645
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,320
convicted and I really will say 
that, you know, I I just had a 

646
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,360
full devotion to my walk when I 
became a father because of my 

647
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,840
upbringing, not seeing my 
parents. 

648
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,960
So I didn't want my daughter to 
see that. 

649
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,160
And that's really when my my 
fire got lit. 

650
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Yeah. 
So, and I know that, you know, 

651
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:08,080
on the marriage side of things 
like that obviously helped my 

652
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:12,440
marriage too, you know, our 
marriage because there were 

653
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,080
sometimes that I, you know, just
didn't make the right decisions 

654
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:21,960
or just was unavailable for Abby
because I was still half in, 

655
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,400
half out. 
So. 

656
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,080
You got to constantly work at 
it. 

657
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,720
You know, you can't just get 
married. 

658
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,160
And it's like, all right, we're 
married happily ever after. 

659
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,160
It's great because you fall 
behind. 

660
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,640
So it's just something that you 
constantly want to work on each 

661
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,720
other with, just continuing to 
get to know somebody. 

662
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,840
Because Dexter is not the same 
Dexter I met even four years 

663
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,880
ago. 
You know, we change and evolve 

664
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,920
and, and have certain passions 
and those passions change 

665
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,640
whenever you have kids, you 
know, So it's just constantly 

666
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,240
learning each other and 
constantly learning, you know, 

667
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:04,640
who God made this man to be. 
And, and you know, it works the 

668
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,800
same way with your faith. 
And, and that's what I think 

669
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,080
it's so hard sometimes to do 
because we work on so many other

670
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,600
aspects on our life. 
And the, you know, one thing 

671
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,760
that we need to be working on 
really in order is our faith 

672
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,360
with God and our relationship 
with him should be #1 and that's

673
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,280
something that we got to work 
at. 

674
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:28,160
Cuz I, you know, I got to know 
him more every day, just like I 

675
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,640
got to know my husband more 
every day. 

676
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,960
And it just takes that constant 
work. 

677
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:39,200
So I'll say too, like I had my, 
my foundation of, you know, 

678
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,720
being raised in a Christian 
household and family, but you 

679
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:47,000
know, I didn't really 
incorporate that into my 

680
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:53,680
marriage until I myself started 
being on fire and having a close

681
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,720
relationship with the Lord. 
So, you know, and, and I knew 

682
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:04,160
like my, my, our marriage was 
not going to be successful even 

683
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,520
though I had that foundation and
we had that foundation, if I 

684
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,440
didn't walk with the Lord every 
day as a man, as the leader of 

685
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,920
the household, it was not going 
to end well. 

686
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,520
It was like I've said this 
before about being under your 

687
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,240
parents umbrella, right? 
The same thing with like with 

688
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,200
our spiritual walks, like we 
learn about God, we're under 

689
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,800
their umbrella, but it seems 
like, you know, you finally 

690
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,760
stepped out of that umbrella and
you got your own umbrella now. 

691
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,400
Like you are covering your 
family with that spiritual 

692
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,040
instead of just having your 
parents, you know. 

693
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,840
So that is just like, I guess 
it's just the longer that we 

694
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,680
walk with him, we start noticing
things. 

695
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,680
And so that conviction started 
hitting you stronger, like once 

696
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400
you had your own family, right? 
Yes. 

697
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,440
And I honestly didn't even know 
about the alcohol like y'all had

698
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,080
stopped drinking until literally
I think last week, last week. 

699
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,400
And Abby told me it's been since
February. 

700
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,480
It is what month is it? 
October, October. 

701
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,880
And I'm like Oh my gosh, like 
because me I'm loud about 

702
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,760
everything. 
I'm going to tell her I'm one 

703
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,200
month and whatever you know. 
And I've done that the whole way

704
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,920
through. 
But me and Abby were just like 

705
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,560
texting her something. 
She was like girl, I haven't 

706
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,520
drank since February. 
And I'm like like I genuinely 

707
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,600
had no idea because we've hung 
out and stuff and like I just 

708
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,800
don't pay. 
I try not to pay attention. 

709
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,120
And when we were in 
Steinhatchee, I even like talked

710
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,840
to Abby and your dad about like 
how I struggled one night that 

711
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,400
we were around that and I'm 
like, Oh my gosh, like I felt 

712
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,480
out of place. 
Y'all wasn't even drinking. 

713
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,480
Like the enemy put that in my 
head though, because I guess I 

714
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,240
had really thought you were the 
only one, that I was the only 

715
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:48,560
one. 
Oh my gosh, I'm so different. 

716
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,800
Like I can't even fit in with 
y'all. 

717
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,560
Y'all weren't even drinking. 
Y'all are cyber. 

718
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,240
Too applaud y'all too, because 
that is awesome because kids are

719
00:39:57,240 --> 00:40:02,200
so like I think we talked about 
this in episode or part one yeah

720
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:07,560
last week and how. 
Kids copy and mirror and they 

721
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:12,320
learn and absorb things and they
see how just normal it is to 

722
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,240
have drinks and, you know, all 
this stuff and even you saying 

723
00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,360
like, you don't even remember 
your parents arguing. 

724
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,640
And I know me and Greg's a 
little bit different too, 

725
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,080
because his kids are grown. 
And so even when we first got 

726
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,440
married, I'm like, or started 
dating, I'm like, I don't want 

727
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,520
to argue in front of them, you 
know, like, I want them to see 

728
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,800
us as like happy and peaceful 
and all this stuff. 

729
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,440
And that is something that I 
just think would be awesome, you

730
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,280
know, as a child growing up in, 
you know, I'm not seeing those 

731
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,640
things that's. 
What we want, that's what we 

732
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,960
ultimately decided, you know, 
cuz we weren't heavy drinkers 

733
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,120
and like, you know, going, I 
mean, that wasn't, you know, it 

734
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,800
was just an occasional drink 
here and there kind of thing 

735
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,000
that was still kind of a part of
our life. 

736
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,720
But we just knew, you know, 
ultimately, after having sat in 

737
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,400
that, why, you know, just give 
them everything, you know, even 

738
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,880
because you try to hold on to 
those little things and, and 

739
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,120
it's just really it's you just 
got to give it all up, you know,

740
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,920
especially like we're talking 
about. 

741
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520
We don't want Sutton to ever see
us in that light. 

742
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,720
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

743
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:22,120
It's just a really strong 
conviction that that I had 

744
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,040
personally. 
It's just, you know, I didn't 

745
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,400
drink during Abby's pregnancy. 
You know, I went that whole time

746
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,360
because, I mean, I just feel 
like that's a little rude. 

747
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,200
But anyway, so, you know, 
started drinking it a little 

748
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,520
bit, you know, socially and 
stuff after Sutton was born. 

749
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,600
And you know, there's just a 
couple times where she's just a 

750
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,240
baby and like, you know, she, 
she wants to come up and grab 

751
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,800
the can that daddy's drinking 
out of. 

752
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:56,920
And like, that's just, that was 
just a heavy conviction that I 

753
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,160
wasn't OK with. 
And God just just kept saying, 

754
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,560
like you're saying you don't 
want to be lukewarm, yet here 

755
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,240
you are. 
Like, what are you doing? 

756
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,920
You know, I mean so. 
For us, when we decided to stop 

757
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,040
drinking, it's not that we 
weren't trying to not live for 

758
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,480
the Lord because we were, you 
know, there were so many things 

759
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,960
that was changing within our 
hearts over those, you know, few

760
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,800
months, first year of marriage, 
second year of marriage. 

761
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,640
And we did still love the Lord 
and, and we're trying, you know,

762
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,800
to do right and, and live for 
him. 

763
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,520
But you know, that's something 
that he's revealed to me is the 

764
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,640
importance of getting to know 
him. 

765
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,720
But, you know, do you love him 
fully and, and want to live for 

766
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:47,520
him fully because, you know, 
there's a huge difference to 

767
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,520
love what he did versus loving 
him? 

768
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,120
And, you know, that is one of 
those things where it's like the

769
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,760
longer you walk with him, the 
convictions get stronger about 

770
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,800
things, you know, because when I
first surrendered and I first 

771
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,040
like, really started walking and
being on fire for him, I'm like,

772
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,920
I'll still drink a little bit 
here and there. 

773
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,920
And then the longer I went, I'd 
be like, oh, never mind. 

774
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,080
It's like, I don't want to do 
this. 

775
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:12,000
And then I even remember telling
somebody I was like, there, I'm 

776
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,400
going to vape until I die. 
Like I am going to continue to 

777
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,520
yes. 
Like I, I cannot give it up. 

778
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,480
I'm not going to, I don't know a
life without vaping because I, I

779
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,160
mean, I smoke cigarettes from 
like such a young age of like 14

780
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,480
or something, you know, so I'm 
like, I can't. 

781
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,440
And then the longer I walked 
with him and the closer I got 

782
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,920
with him, I'm like, no, take it 
like I don't want to. 

783
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,560
I remember crying about it. 
Like, I want to be free from 

784
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,840
that. 
And so it's one of those things,

785
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,240
the longer you walk, the more 
you get convicted about things. 

786
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:45,360
Is there something more recently
or something just overall that 

787
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,040
God has really revealed 
something to y'all and that 

788
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,440
y'all might maybe want to share 
just to the listeners or to me 

789
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,240
'cause y'all are really throwing
me for loops? 

790
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,160
Yeah, I think God has really 
revealed to me that, I mean, 

791
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,400
this sounds crazy, but that I 
actually have a testimony. 

792
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:11,440
Yes, I've been saved for 21 of 
my 28 years and I, I just, I 

793
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,840
thought like, OK, I got saved at
a young age. 

794
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Like I hadn't really been 
through anything traumatic. 

795
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,720
I haven't, I don't have these, 
these stories that, you know, 

796
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:24,520
these people get up and they 
give their testimonies and they 

797
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,480
win hearts for the Lord. 
And like, I don't have any of 

798
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,360
that. 
That doesn't mean I don't have a

799
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:30,520
testimony. 
Exactly. 

800
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,760
I still have a testimony I do 
and and I don't really like I 

801
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,400
couldn't get up there and give 
it all to you right now. 

802
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Like, I don't have all of the 
details of it, but just that's 

803
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,640
what God has really revealed to 
me recently. 

804
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,200
Yeah. 
God has really just put, like, 

805
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,560
those two words on my heart. 
Like, Dexter, you've been really

806
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,720
quiet and really comfortable, 
you know, as far as spreading 

807
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,560
the good news. 
Yeah. 

808
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,360
You know, I'm trying to really 
work through that and figure 

809
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,280
out, OK, how do I use my story, 
be it that it's not what 

810
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,080
somebody else says is, but it's 
mine. 

811
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,200
How can I use that to win hearts
for Jesus? 

812
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,280
Yeah, I feel like I like, I 
mean, I know that I have a 

813
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,120
testimony and I've dealt with 
traumatic things and all this 

814
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,240
stuff, but it's like I didn't 
really know like how it would 

815
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:24,520
even play out until I really 
started my 12 step and me and 

816
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,800
Abby talked about 12 step or 
whatever. 

817
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,280
And like I didn't know really 
any of those things until I 

818
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,560
started that and I started 
diving deeper into that. 

819
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,880
And then I'm like, wow, I need 
to speak up. 

820
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,280
Like, because this, this can 
help people. 

821
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,120
Like this can bring people to 
Jesus. 

822
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Like, this is exactly what I've 
seen my whole life, but here I 

823
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,120
am. 
I need to be doing it for 

824
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,240
myself, you know, and doing it 
for others. 

825
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,160
So yeah, I mean, everybody has a
testimony, right? 

826
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,760
Yeah, for sure. 
I think the thing for me is that

827
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,200
when you know, you think you've 
completely messed up your life 

828
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,080
and you're just completely 
broken, that God really and 

829
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,200
truly is the master at taking 
something broken and making it 

830
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,880
more beautiful than the 
original. 

831
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,880
But we just kind of give them 
all those pieces to do it with. 

832
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:14,640
And so, you know, for me, that's
just something that I hope that 

833
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,400
people see from listening to 
this. 

834
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,320
You know, at the very end, it's 
like, OK, Fast forward through 

835
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,080
everything else. 
Just listen to this at the end 

836
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,960
because really and truly all 
that has manifested from, you 

837
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,760
know, our story. 
And since my dad gave his heart 

838
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,600
to Christ, it took one person. 
And my parents, after being 

839
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,800
divorced for 18 years, got 
remarried and they're going on 

840
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,080
10 years of being remarried, 
restored their relationship. 

841
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,520
Another thing is, you know, God 
restored my life that I thought 

842
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,960
was so broken and and gave me a 
husband. 

843
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,320
And now we have a daughter. 
She's 2 and just the brightest 

844
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:55,960
light that. 
Loves the Lord. 

845
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,880
Loves the Lord, loves the Lord 
If you're listening to praises 

846
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,840
in the pod and you hear a little
girl talking, that's her. 

847
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,440
But just, you know, seeing those
things and seeing our marriage 

848
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,840
and seeing my parents and now 
seeing, you know, your life 

849
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,640
restored. 
If there's just one thing I hope

850
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,080
that people you'll see is you 
take all of that brokenness and 

851
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,640
you put it in the hand of the 
Father and it's no longer 

852
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,760
broken. 
This revelations 1211, they 

853
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,560
triumph over him by the blood of
the Lamb and the word of their 

854
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,400
testimony. 
And that is why I wanted to 

855
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
start praises in the pod. 
This right here, because y'all 

856
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,200
have y'all's own stories and 
y'all can impact so many more 

857
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120
people than like, just me 
getting on here every week 

858
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,560
talking like, because we've 
lived different lives, you know?

859
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,720
And so showing people what all 
you've went through, it allows 

860
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,320
them to see what God can do for 
them. 

861
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,160
So yeah, any last things that 
y'all have? 

862
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:51,920
Thank you for having us. 
We appreciate it you. 

863
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,360
Wouldn't be doing this if you 
didn't start it, yeah. 

864
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Yeah, absolutely. 
This is awesome. 

865
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,560
Yeah. 
All right, guys. 

866
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,840
So thank you so much for joining
us today. 

867
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,360
We hope the battery's exhausted.
Bro. 

868
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,800
I think you got in what you 
needed though, like right at the

869
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,000
end. 
Hello 

870
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:35,160
love you Jesus. 
Can you say the blessing?

