1 00:00:09,790 --> 00:00:12,470 What's up, guys? My name's Alexis, your host of 2 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:15,870 Praises in the Pod, and I am so excited to be here with Miss 3 00:00:15,870 --> 00:00:18,270 April Dawn. She is involved at the Potter's 4 00:00:18,270 --> 00:00:21,430 House, and you've seen this area before, so you know that I'm 5 00:00:21,430 --> 00:00:23,110 back at the Potter's House. So it's going to be an 6 00:00:23,110 --> 00:00:26,550 incredible, incredible episode. We're going to start off in 7 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:28,110 prayer, and then we're going to jump right in. 8 00:00:28,110 --> 00:00:30,950 So here we go. Lord Heavenly Father just thank 9 00:00:30,950 --> 00:00:33,880 you, thank you for all that you have done in our lives. 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,240 Lord God, thank you for sending these people into my life that I 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:44,200 get to look U to and get to just get all the knowledge and grow 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,640 with them and let them just tell me things that maybe I've never 13 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,160 experienced or just you've placed them specifically in our 14 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:52,800 lives and we just thank you for that. 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,800 I just pray that you calm our nerves. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,120 I pray that you speak to us and through us and let this episode 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,880 glorify you. In Jesus name I pray Amen, Amen, 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:03,760 Amen. All right, Miss April, not I'm 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,840 really excited about this because I've never really had a 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,520 one-on-one conversation with you, right? 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Like every single time I've been here, it's a graduation or 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,960 something. Finally got to sit in one of her 23 00:01:12,960 --> 00:01:15,600 groups, which you would just love. 24 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Y'all, it is so amazing. But we want to talk about you 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,160 today. So tell us a little bit about 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,800 yourself, maybe your childhood growing up, what that look like. 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,200 I grew up in Griffin, GA with four girls in the family and my 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,240 parents. My dad was a high school band 29 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,600 director, so we grew up with a lot of music and healthy family, 30 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:42,120 happy, fun family. I'm just so grateful we weren't 31 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,160 big churchgoers until my mom decided she wanted to sing in a 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,920 choir. So we started go to church and 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:55,520 when we were in high school, I was had such an interest in who 34 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,040 Jesus was and wasn't really finding out about him. 35 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:04,600 But I was so curious and my freshman year in college went to 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,360 a campus crusade for Christ and it was amazing. 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,760 It was like finally I find out who this Jesus is. 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:22,800 But I became crazy Jesus freak and my parents mostly my mom was 39 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,360 so embarrassed. The church had me leave with 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,240 another guy named Robert that was my sweetheart. 41 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,600 We were kicked out of our church because we were Jesus freaks. 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,560 This was back in the mid 60s. Wow. 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,080 You know, I really relate to that too, of just, you know, you 44 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,160 find Christ and you are just adamant about everything, you 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,560 know? And the first time when my mom 46 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,280 came to the Potter's house, I was like that. 47 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,520 Like, I felt it. I'm like, Oh my, I got to tell 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,440 everybody. And I was sort of beating my 49 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,160 husband over the head with it, you know? 50 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Like I couldn't. I couldn't. 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,120 You just can't control it, you know? 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,440 So I totally get out. Oh, yeah, I was just didn't 53 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,160 understand, you know, why I was different? 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Because my grandparents didn't go to church or aunts. 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,040 I knew nothing in my family. It was just me. 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,120 And I didn't understand why I was so why I was so set apart. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,240 And one day my mom called me into the bedroom to talk to me. 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,280 And she was crying. And she said it's all my fault 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,480 that you're a Jesus freak. And I'm like, mom, what are you 60 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,640 talking about? And she said, you or I have two 61 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,040 miscarriages before you, and you care. 62 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,280 I carried you to nine months, and the doctor said the cord had 63 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,720 wrapped around your neck and she would deliver a baby that wasn't 64 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,440 alive. Oh, wow. 65 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,160 And my mom said, I prayed for the first time. 66 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:54,120 And I said, God, if you're real, if this baby can live, I'll give 67 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,720 the baby back to you. And then she cried and said, 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,240 it's all my fault. You're a Jesus freak. 69 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Wow. I mean, just day one, you're a 70 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,880 miracle, yeah. It was explanation, it was 71 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,040 answered. You know why I was different? 72 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,920 All of my sisters are believers, Both my parents are believers. 73 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,800 And so it worked out beautifully. 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,800 Wow. That is such a beautiful story, 75 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,519 yes. So you're in high school when 76 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:24,200 you go to this crusade. What does early years look like 77 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,480 for you? Early years look like peace, 78 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:34,840 fun, great family, lots of love. So it was an easy flow for me 79 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:39,760 to, you know understand the goodness of God and that 80 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,720 everything was that pretty much like a fairy tale. 81 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,280 It was just happy and fun. Yeah. 82 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,600 Growing up with with my family. But when Robert, who became a 83 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Jesus freak with me, yes, went to his college and found Jesus 84 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,680 too, we set the world on fire and we didn't know what we were 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,320 doing. Now your husband now is Robert. 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,720 Are we talking about the same Robert? 87 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:06,720 Yes. No way. 88 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,960 Same Robert, He proposed to me and I said yes. 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,040 We were both 19 and my mom said no you will not marry a Jesus 90 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:22,000 freak and she says he'll never have any money so you can't 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,080 marry him. Uh huh. 92 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:29,320 So I I said OK, broke my heart and broke his heart and we went 93 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,800 our separate ways from there. Oh wow. 94 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,560 That was at 19, yeah. And we had been friends since we 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,680 were 10th grade high school sweethearts. 96 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:44,080 And, and, but I went to Auburn and got involved with Campus 97 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:49,080 Crusade there. And he went to Gordon Military 98 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,200 School and then went on to Florida to school. 99 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:58,640 And we lost touch for 25 years. And then we found each other 100 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,640 again 40 years later. Wow. 101 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,680 We've been married now 15 years. And it's like we've always been 102 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,680 married. We don't remember. 103 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:13,760 We both had difficult marriages And, and we, we both laugh and 104 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,520 say everybody's always liked us our whole life. 105 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,000 We've always been real popular. But there's two people in the 106 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,200 world that don't like us, and we married them. 107 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,200 Oh, well, that's sort of our story, yeah. 108 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,360 But so with you said 20 years that y'all were separated. 109 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,560 So what? What happens all in those twenty 110 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,840 years? You said that you were married 111 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,120 previously, so maybe tell me a little bit about. 112 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,960 That yeah, I married the guy that my mom picked out for me. 113 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,400 She really liked him. He wasn't big, he wasn't a Jesus 114 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,160 freak, but he came from a lot of money and that was important to 115 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,200 my mom. And we got married after a year 116 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,880 and a half of meeting each other. 117 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,720 And he wanted to be a missionary with me and have lots of kids. 118 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,200 And we were so much alike. And he was a lot of fun. 119 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,120 And we get married in the night before our wedding, he said I 120 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,520 don't love you. I'm not showing up. 121 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,400 And I said my Mama is going to be so mad at me, you better show 122 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,600 up. Oh my. 123 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,840 God so with that is the beginning of our marriage and he 124 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,840 got abusive on the honeymoon. Wow and he said I don't love 125 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 you. I never did but don't believe in 126 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,960 God and will never go to church. And that's a big, huge flip, 127 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,480 right? Because it's huge. 128 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,400 A year and a half he's saying I want to be a missionary. 129 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,000 All this stuff. And now, the night before the 130 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,560 wedding, the mask comes off. Yes, it did, and he said. 131 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,960 I just wanted to win, was his answer. 132 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,480 And then with my positive attitude and my trust in God, 133 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 I'm like, that's OK, we'll fit. We'll make this. 134 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,920 Work I can change him and the Lord will change it you know 135 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,480 exactly. Oh, I just can just hold on. 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,160 I'm going to push through and do because God, you got me here, 137 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,000 you know? Yeah, I've, you know, I've 138 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,920 talked about this too, like just so many times. 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,360 We do think we can change people, but God is the only one 140 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,040 that can truly change him. So like when we see those red 141 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,480 flags, when we see those things, take them for what they are, you 142 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:28,080 know, like, yes, God can perform miracles, but also sometimes 143 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,480 we're stepping out of his will and doing things our own, you 144 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,919 know, so. Exactly. 145 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,960 Yeah, exactly. So right off the rib. 146 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Yeah, right off. And it was, I was married to him 147 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:45,840 for 38 years and after about 25 years, I I thought he was going 148 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,000 to kill me because he was very abusive and I spent all my time 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,720 trying to keep it from people my parents didn't even know. 150 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,200 Oh wow. And so at 25 years, I got the 151 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,920 kids, my kids. Our kids were in high school and 152 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,440 we came from North Carolina. We had started a whitewater 153 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,720 rafting business, rock climbing business and snowboard shop in 154 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,720 Banner Hill, North Carolina. But I took the kids and came 155 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,120 home to Georgia and told my folks would have been going on 156 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,400 all these years. And while I was there, I'm like, 157 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:22,400 I need to find friends, college roommates because I had lost me. 158 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,520 I was not me at all. And that's part of my heart for 159 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,600 for parents that don't understand their kids when they 160 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,960 changed like that, there's something going on. 161 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:41,000 So I decided I'd find my college roommate and went to Atlanta and 162 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,280 found her and spent time with her and went to church with her 163 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,840 because she said that, you know, she found Jesus because of her 164 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,840 crazy roommates. Back at Auburn. 165 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,840 Wow. And so we were in church, and a 166 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,680 high school friend came up to me in her church in Atlanta and 167 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:59,400 said, you know, Robert lives here in Atlanta, you should call 168 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 him. So that afternoon I called him 169 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,000 and we hadn't spoken in 25 years. 170 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,600 So that was a we had a conversation and he said, you're 171 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,080 so lost. He said I'll find you. 172 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,480 He was a pastor at First Baptist Atlanta. 173 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,040 And he said, I'll find you because no one knows you like I 174 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,680 know you. So he got a 800 number for me, 175 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:24,200 just me. And we talked on the phone every 176 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,520 day. Wow. 177 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,400 It was like life was being put back into me with these 178 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,320 conversations until he said no more, we can't do this. 179 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,240 We're both married. No more phone conversations. 180 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:41,160 So and I begged him, I said, you're my life, you're my 181 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,480 lifeline. We have got to talk on the 182 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:44,960 phone. And he says no more. 183 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:51,720 We cannot honor God and do this. And so I said, OK, I can do 184 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,640 this. If it's the honor God, it's the 185 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,280 only way I can do it. And we were apart. 186 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,840 We didn't speak for 15 years. So you start speaking, you 187 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,720 reconnect, but then it has to be cut off at that point because it 188 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,760 would have led to so much more, I'm sure, you know, But then 189 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:13,400 another 15 years. 15 years I started visiting his mom when I 190 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,920 would travel from North Carolina back to Georgia. 191 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:22,440 And the first time I called her she said I don't want to see 192 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 you. You broke my son's heart. 25 193 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,960 years ago. It killed me that she would be 194 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,200 that way. And I waited a year and called 195 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,320 her back and she has started visiting her once a year. 196 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:39,360 She tell me all about Robert's life and the company he started, 197 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,360 personality Insights and his wife divorcing him so he lost 198 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,080 his church. And so I knew all about his 199 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,600 story. And then she was the first one I 200 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,240 told that I'd been abused other than Robert and she would tell 201 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,520 call Robert and say April was here. 202 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,280 She cried for two hours. I prayed for her. 203 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,640 So he knew my story. And it was 15 years and she was 204 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,120 in Hospice When I came home and I went to visit her. 205 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,600 She'd been in a coma 5 days. And I walked in and she came out 206 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,360 of her coma and talked to me. And she said, you had a dream of 207 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,920 ministry in 1968. If you don't grab it now, it 208 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,520 won't come back to you. And then slipped back into her 209 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,920 coma. So the nurses called Robert in 210 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:31,000 Atlanta and said, Doctor Rome, your Mama came out of the coma, 211 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,160 you need to get down here. And 2:00 in the morning, I'm 212 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 asleep in the chair holding her hand. 213 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 And I opened my eyes, and he was standing at the end of the bed 214 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,960 crying. And he said, I can't stay away 215 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,160 from you any longer. And at that point, we were both 216 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,440 divorced. Why? 217 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,760 And so, you know, two years later, you know, we get married. 218 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:55,840 Yeah. So it's happy ending. 219 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,960 I love that so, but I will backtrack just a little bit 220 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:04,080 because you have children and you're a big advocate for 221 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,000 children and everything that goes on in your childhood to get 222 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:12,600 you where you are today. And So what was the abuse in 223 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,160 front of your children? How did that kind of affect you 224 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,800 and them with your ex-husband? Well, I thought they were 225 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,480 protected from it. He was. 226 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,040 He would say cruel things to them. 227 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,480 But you know, they they had in secret, they had such a fun 228 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,840 loving Mama. Yeah. 229 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:37,000 And when we left, when I got the children after 25 years and we 230 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,040 left and we drove around the mountains and me just crying and 231 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,000 they're not, they're not understanding what's going on. 232 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,240 And we found a, a bed and breakfast in Bat Cave, NC. 233 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,080 I'll never forget it. And it was late, really late. 234 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,000 And I knock on the door and I was a mess. 235 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:02,480 And the woman said, yes, you can stay here and saw the kids. 236 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,280 And she said, I don't know what's going on, but my, I will 237 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,920 be in the kitchen all night praying for you. 238 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,200 And so the kids and I went upstairs and I started telling 239 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,600 them what was going on and they started crying. 240 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,280 And they said, mom, we were always sitting outside the 241 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,680 bathroom door not knowing what to do to save our Mama. 242 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,440 So they knew. So they knew. 243 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:30,600 So we came to Georgia and talked to my folks and started trying 244 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,320 to make things work in our marriage, and it just never did. 245 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,560 It just never did. So then Fast forward, we'll get 246 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,920 back to with Robert. Tell us a little bit about your 247 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,960 early years together then and how that looks like, 'cause you 248 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:50,440 go from this just awful, you know, marriage just a full of 249 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,960 abuse and stuff like that. I'm sure you're having to 250 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,840 retrain yourself mentally like, 'cause you're probably insecure 251 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,400 from that old marriage or you feel like, I don't really know 252 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,480 how to explain it, but you're having to relearn like, I am 253 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,120 lovable. I do, you know, I am worthy of 254 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,000 this type of marriage. I am worthy of this type of 255 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,480 love. Like how does that look in that 256 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,280 adjustment phase? Well, I think because we knew 257 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,800 each other so well and the freedom of the honesty and the 258 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:25,320 trusting between US and because we're such great friends, it, 259 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,160 it, it was sort of fast forwarded through a lot of that. 260 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:33,800 And then because he's, you know, he's got a degree in psychology 261 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,160 and theology. He's had so much experience and 262 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,880 he knows me so well. He went right to the point when 263 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:47,200 he would see me going back to that being fearful person and he 264 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,960 would always bring me back to me. 265 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,680 So it was really. And it was the Lord too. 266 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,600 Yeah. You know, because we had missed 267 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,240 a lot of years of being in ministry together. 268 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,760 And I think the Lord was like, we're not going to go back to 269 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,160 the past and it's gone and we're moving ahead. 270 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,000 And it's been, it's been really. And his personality is real 271 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:13,800 similar to mine. So it's just we, we got fun. 272 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Yeah. We had fun. 273 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,280 We had fun loving Jesus in each other. 274 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,880 I love that. And so one of the things that I 275 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,440 always talk about on here is personalities. 276 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Like if you have heard me talk on these episodes before, I 277 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,520 always bring up personalities and it's because of Miss April 278 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,120 Dawn. And so when my mom came to the 279 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,160 Potters house, you do a group that we just did. 280 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,280 We just got done with it. And so I would love for you to 281 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,080 maybe explain a little bit about what you and your husband do 282 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,360 with the personality insights and maybe kind of break it down 283 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,440 because I don't think I do a great job of it. 284 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,560 You know, I, I, I got the concept right, but I don't 285 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,960 explain it well. And so I would like you to kind 286 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,280 of go into that a little bit, OK. 287 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,880 Yeah, I love to talk about it. I don't know how people do life 288 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,440 without knowing this information. 289 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,599 It's so helpful. It's so predictable, so you have 290 00:17:06,599 --> 00:17:09,880 situations that you don't know how to handle with a person 291 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,119 emotionally or intellectually. But when you break it down to 292 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:19,319 understanding how they're wired, how they think, it just fast 293 00:17:19,319 --> 00:17:23,040 tracks relationships to be really healthy. 294 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,920 And the company is called Personality Insights, and we use 295 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,400 the disk DISC model of human behavior. 296 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,640 It breaks it down into two parts, outgoing or reserved, 297 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,520 which is pretty noticeable with people. 298 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,320 You can answer that question pretty quickly with someone 299 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:47,720 you're encountered or it's task and relationship. 300 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,760 And that takes a few more minutes to discern if they're 301 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,480 all about the procedure, getting a job done, the results of the 302 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,440 job, if it's thorough, they're on the task side. 303 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,800 And if it's all about caring and sharing and knowing people 304 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,920 feelings, listening, it's on a relationship side. 305 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,280 So it breaks it down pretty quickly with those two 306 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,360 questions. Yeah. 307 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:20,720 And you go from there. With my first job years ago, it 308 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,520 was in sales and so right before I got that job, they said here 309 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:28,280 take this personality test. And so that was the first time 310 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,120 that I really ever had anything. And actually now that I think 311 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:34,880 about it, I got that job a month before mom came here and started 312 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,360 learning about personalities. I just clicked that too. 313 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,880 So anyway, they were like, oh, that's great. 314 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,840 They did the disk too. They said you're a high D, so 315 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,880 it's going to be awesome. Like all this stuff, well, going 316 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,720 to my first conference and it's a male driven cells in that in 317 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,960 that aspect, those beauty cells, which is totally contradicting. 318 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:59,440 You would think it would be women, but it's 100% or not 100, 319 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,440 but a lot of men. And when I got in that room and 320 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:08,000 I noticed that everyone around me was pretty much Adi switched 321 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,400 to my eye. Like I like you were talking 322 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,440 about this earlier in Group is how like when we feel stressed 323 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,880 or we get in that situation, we'll maybe go to our secondary 324 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,920 and that's what would happen. I would feel like not as 325 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,360 dominant in those and I would switch. 326 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,520 So maybe can you tell us a little bit about each quadrant 327 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,080 of? Those personalities, OK, the 328 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,720 outgoing task is the D trait, and you can remember that 329 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:38,640 because it's the dominant, driven, determined personality 330 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,760 style and they've got one need and it's to get results. 331 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:49,360 Now God was merciful because only 10% of the population, wow 332 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:53,160 is that personality and we need it in this world. 333 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,560 I did not know. That we need the generals and 334 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,000 police officers and pilots and surgeons. 335 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,480 We need the dominant style. They, it's so important in it 336 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,120 for this world to function, but it can't. 337 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,640 But they're so strong, they can't be 50% of the population. 338 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,520 It would over overthrow the the dynamics of a nation. 339 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,920 And you can see it in some of the mid eastern countries. 340 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,680 It's overthrown by the the dominant male personality and 341 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:31,280 it's just not healthy. So the other task side where 342 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,280 I'll go around the circle, the disk. 343 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,120 The other outgoing trait is the eye and it's interaction. 344 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,640 Loves people, loves to have fun, and they have a need of being 345 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,320 recognized. See me be my friend. 346 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,600 Life of the party, if you will. Life. 347 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,680 Of the party and that's the relational outgoing personality. 348 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,040 And the and the percentages are about 25 percent, 20 to 25%. 349 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:05,480 And the world needs fun. So still a smaller portion of 350 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,120 people too. OK. 351 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:14,000 And then the S is a reserve trait and it's caring servant 352 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,920 sharing. It's very sweet, sensitive 353 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:23,400 feeling personality and they're the the heart and they're the 354 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:29,200 35% of the population. So most of the population, the 355 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,680 world is in that relational side. 356 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:38,600 The I and the S is about 65% of pop of people in in the world 357 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,400 are of that personality. So it's sort of the soft place 358 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:49,800 that people get to land mostly. So the s s are your nurses, your 359 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:55,120 school teachers, you know, the caring patient population. 360 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,360 Yeah. And they have a real need for 361 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:05,400 peace and joy and quiet and no conflict. 362 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,800 Yeah. And then? 363 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,920 Anything but anything but conflict yes, when I guess I 364 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:16,000 told you earlier, like I work at my church and we have a lot of S 365 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,480 personalities in there. And so like I've tried to learn. 366 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,800 You're right, because I am just so like, there, I'm just in your 367 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,760 face. And so like, I'm trying to 368 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,640 really reel it in, like, because I'll ask questions and they're 369 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,520 like, they're trying to, you know, think thoroughly about it, 370 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,440 but also, like, not start a conflict. 371 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,520 Like, I can see that they want to say no to whatever I'm 372 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,640 saying, but they're trying to do it in a way that's not going to 373 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,440 stir the pot or stir something, get it going. 374 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,280 And so that has been very hard because I'm also trying to stop 375 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,320 being as blunt about things or like just saying this way or the 376 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,760 highway, you know? So that is so good to know, you 377 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,200 know, about personalities. Yeah. 378 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Yeah. And that thing is, when you 379 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,080 understand that, you realize people aren't against you. 380 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,280 They're for themselves, but they're not against you. 381 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:13,080 And that's so important because we think that that guy on the 382 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,880 highway that cut you off is against you. 383 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,520 He didn't even see you. He's just for himself. 384 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,280 He's in a hurry. So it helps us with with being 385 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,920 tolerable with people that are different. 386 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,760 All right. And the last one is the C and 387 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,080 it's the cautious type and it's reserved and it's task and they 388 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,560 want to know all the information they need to know to make the 389 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,200 right decision. And they come across as cold 390 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,520 sometimes because they're just about wanting to make sure it's 391 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:51,560 right and not relational at all. And so and they're the, they're 392 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:56,760 only 20 to 25% population. So if you break it down on the 393 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,320 task side, is just one third of the population relationship. 394 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:10,080 Is 2/3 of the population. Now my husband is 100% AC, 100% 395 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,160 AC and me. I am not reading the directions, 396 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:17,800 I'm not reading them and I don't understand why I have to give 397 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,720 instructions. I'm like, what do you mean? 398 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,680 And he's like, we're, we're, we'll cook together and you 399 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,320 know, he's got the teaspoons out and he's doing it and all this 400 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,840 stuff. And I'm like, like, I just dump 401 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,960 salt. And so like it has truly been an 402 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,440 adjustment in trying to learn his personality, especially in a 403 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,760 marriage, especially especially in a marriage because his see 404 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,120 now is completely different than his see before Christ. 405 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,720 And so like I just shared with our podcasters and you too, like 406 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,160 he just came to Christ. And so when you start, that's a 407 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,320 whole different type because prior you may know your 408 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,000 personality, but it's everywhere or maybe like it's too much or 409 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,880 something like that. So how would you recommend maybe 410 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,160 marriage in these personalities? Like how? 411 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,240 How do you use this as your advantage basically? 412 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,440 Maybe. Well, first of all, as we do a 413 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,480 lot of marriage training, yes. And we, we know that after 414 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,680 people are married, it's they'll pay attention to you and after 415 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,000 they've been married a long time, they'll still pay 416 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,400 attention to your teaching the disc information for newlyweds 417 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,200 and pre marriage training. They don't care. 418 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:37,680 Yeah. It's all, it's just, it's just 419 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:42,000 stupid, stupid love. And there it's not going to make 420 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,040 a whole lot of difference. But we still try. 421 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,520 And we said this will happen, you know, with because of your 422 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,200 personalities expect this. And this is how you work around 423 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,280 it and put understanding into it so we can get ahead of it a 424 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,640 little bit. But it's still hard because 425 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,360 there is something about opposite subtracting. 426 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,840 Yeah, it's almost like I need what he is. 427 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,800 And you were probably thinking, he's so organized and he's so in 428 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:17,520 control of so many things, and I really need that in my DI life. 429 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,200 And that was attracted to you. It almost like it completed you, 430 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,560 but there's no human being that's going to complete you. 431 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,600 Absolutely not. That's Jesus Christ. 432 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,920 That is, that is. No, like I'm about to tear up 433 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,000 right now because I'm like, wait, you know my life. 434 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,920 Like what do you mean? But that is so true because he 435 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,800 is also older than you know, and so he just had so such a mature 436 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,360 spirit about him and cautious, you know, like he just seemed 437 00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:46,920 like he had it together. And for me, if I have an idea, 438 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,680 I'm running with it, I'm going to run with it. 439 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,840 I'm going to try it out. If it fails, it fails like 440 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,880 whatever. But with him, it gave me that 441 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,240 stability and that like reeling it in, but also with two task 442 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,680 oriented people that are completely different tasks like 443 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840 like I'm just checking the boxes. 444 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:09,400 You know, he wants to thoroughly check a box like the right way. 445 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,920 So tell me what you would observe without even knowing a 446 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,800 whole lot about us. What would be like maybe some 447 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,120 conflicts and good things about AD and AC together? 448 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Well, the D is going to be outgoing and wants results 449 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,800 without reading the manual. Yeah. 450 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,600 And the C is going to want to make sure it's the right 451 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,960 decision to be made or the right results. 452 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,240 And it's going to take some checking into and take some 453 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,080 time. So after a few weeks of being 454 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,760 married to your D and his C, it's going to become a problem. 455 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,360 And unless you understand that he's not against you and that 456 00:27:56,360 --> 00:28:01,200 you're not against him, it's your personalities and you both 457 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,400 begin to adjust to each other's personalities. 458 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,960 So and I don't, I don't teach that he needs to change to be 459 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,360 more like you. No. 460 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,520 And you do not need to give up yourself to be more like him. 461 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,520 That's not what we're asking. And the word is visit, visit his 462 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,880 personality and understand that he wants to get this right. 463 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,560 Whether it's making a Peach cobbler or frying a hamburger, 464 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,080 he wants to do it right, not be right. 465 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840 But you come across as it doesn't matter. 466 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,440 Just do it. Just do it Now. 467 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,760 You know, we're in a hurry. You've got somewhere to be. 468 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,440 And instead say saying to him, I love you, I appreciate you. 469 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,160 I need to be more, I need to have more of you in my life and 470 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,640 how I think. And then all of a sudden he will 471 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,400 begin to say that to you. I love your energy. 472 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,400 I love your fun personality. I just, I want to be more like 473 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,480 that. So forgive me when I forget and 474 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,280 let's just help each other remember why. 475 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Why did we fall in love in the 1st place and get back to that 476 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,160 place. You're not against me and you're 477 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,920 actually for me is how you're going to change. 478 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,040 It just needs to begin with understanding your 479 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,360 personalities. And you both do that now. 480 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,920 Yeah. And then working it out, and it 481 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,800 will take maybe a lifetime of remembering to do all those 482 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,160 things, yeah. I'm sure it will because, you 483 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,080 know, we all evolve and we become more mature. 484 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,080 Hopefully we're maturing, you know, but you know, spiritually 485 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,680 mature, spiritual maturity is just like you really start 486 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400 seeing those personalities for who they are instead of trying 487 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,360 to change them. Like I truly have tried to lean 488 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,920 into that more recently. Like especially with him being 489 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,640 on this side of Christ, you know, like I want to, I want to 490 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,800 love and be that's so bad. It's so hard for me. 491 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,200 But I'm like trying to visit that more because I know that's 492 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,680 something maybe he also needs is like especially on the like on 493 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,760 this side, you know, like showing that love of Jesus and 494 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,880 being that person for people. Like we really do need SI like S 495 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,000 so much because that's just not something. 496 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,520 But I want to visit it to be be more like Christ be show that 497 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,440 love. Sure. 498 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,960 Yeah, I wish we could do a whole segment, multiple, a whole 499 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,240 series, if you will, about personalities, because it's just 500 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,800 something that I love so much. But I know we're on like more of 501 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,160 a time crunch. So maybe what is something, 502 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,320 maybe some points or some real big takeaways that you would 503 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,840 want someone on the other end of this to hear and be like, I need 504 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,120 to dive into personalities. I need to learn more about that. 505 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Oh, actually hold up. Because when I came to this side 506 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,000 of Christ, I before I did horoscopes, right? 507 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,320 Like I wanted to know about horoscopes. 508 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,400 The first question I asked people was like, when's your 509 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,720 birthday? And then I got to the side and 510 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320 it's like, no, no, no, no, no, we don't do that. 511 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Like personalities is what we would do on this side of Christ 512 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,760 and learning that. So maybe jump into that a little 513 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,440 bit. And your main takeaways? 514 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:23,040 OK, all right. I think that we are soul and 515 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:28,360 spirit and I think to to differentiate that, I think we 516 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280 can look at our soul is our personality. 517 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,440 We're one-of-a-kind. There's not another you in this 518 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,800 world. And the statistics say in 519 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:45,320 400,000 people you will find someone similar to you and 520 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,800 that's pretty remarkable. And to believe that God has you 521 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:57,640 here in 2025 to be you doing this podcast to serve him and 522 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,240 the purpose he's given you is pretty cool. 523 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,720 And to know that your personality, even in heaven, it 524 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:10,120 will not change you are you. You are only you and no one else 525 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760 is like you. So he has God has arranged a 526 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,080 plan for you specific for you for this time. 527 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,280 And you need to search it and find what it is. 528 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,880 And most of us, I don't think really do I think we get close 529 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,160 and God is OK with that. This, he'll make it good, 530 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,160 whatever that as we know there's in this world, there will be 531 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,120 trouble and there's a an enemy trying to pull us away from 532 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,640 ourselves. One of my favorite thing about 533 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,160 our assessment from Personality Insights is there's two graphs 534 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,080 that are revealed in the assessment. 535 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,560 One is an environmental graph, and that's who you have become 536 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880 in your environment. How has your environment pulled 537 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,960 you away from who God designed you to be? 538 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,480 So you have an environmental graph that's revealed and the 539 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,720 basic, which is your DNA, it is you. 540 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,200 That graph will rarely change at all. 541 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,560 As many times as you take it, that graph will stay the same. 542 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,480 But when you put the two together, it can teach you so 543 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,760 much, especially here where I teach at the Potter's House with 544 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,160 women that have been so injured by their environment. 545 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,400 It tells me their whole story. And then I compare it to their 546 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320 DNA, who God designed them to be. 547 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,600 And I always end up by saying we're going to find this girl 548 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,760 and bring her back to God's purpose in her. 549 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:50,160 And within really days of being with the the women here, you see 550 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,600 the light coming back on and find and they'll say, I remember 551 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,360 her. I was that when I was a little 552 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,400 girl as tears are coming down their face. 553 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,240 And that's worth all the trouble I went through for 38 years to 554 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,440 get to understand this information of how the 555 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,080 environment will change you. You know that I can see that 556 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,239 change in these girls so quickly. 557 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,040 So that's one really good reason to to use this assessment is, is 558 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,320 part of not just information about how you're wired and where 559 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,199 your purpose is going to take you, but know where you've been 560 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,880 and how you were injured. Earlier when we were in Group, 561 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,000 there was something that I really took away one the snake 562 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,040 thing, which I love that. But anyway, it's, it's 563 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,120 scientifically proven and they've done things that snakes 564 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,040 are supposed to have legs. And I thought that was 565 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,080 absolutely crazy because if you know, back in Genesis, you know, 566 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,120 he strikes the serpent and says you will be on your belly for 567 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,120 the rest of time, you know, But like, that is just so crazy. 568 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,840 Anyway, Yeah. Squirrel The second thing was 569 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,040 saying when we go to heaven, we're going to rule and reign. 570 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,880 And that is something I've never thought about before in the 571 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,080 aspect of our spirit leaving and going to heaven and our 572 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,840 personality remaining the same. You said we're not just going to 573 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,480 fly around, you know, and be like, like, we're still going to 574 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,480 have purpose. And wow, that really just set 575 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,920 me, set me back. Like I have never thought about 576 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,840 that in that capacity before. Like who we are in our spirit 577 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560 today and when we get to heaven, we're going to have purpose. 578 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,040 Like, oh, that was just so amazing. 579 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,280 I know, I love that. Yeah, I do too. 580 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,520 I love the thought that this is just rehearsal. 581 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,800 You know, we get the real life when when we take the last 582 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,760 breath here on earth and we take the next breath, we'll be there. 583 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,280 And So what we could, it's not that we're going to forget 584 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,680 everything that we had here. We're going to, we're going to 585 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,440 be different there because of what we've gained from the 586 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,680 rehearsal. What would every play be like if 587 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,840 they didn't have a rehearsal to learn their mistakes and what 588 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,920 they need to do to improve? But that's what this this is 589 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,440 about. In this world. 590 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,600 They'll be trouble, and we see it all around us. 591 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,280 But there won't be trouble there. 592 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,760 Can you imagine? And we will rule and reign. 593 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,000 They'll be governors and mayors of our towns and States and 594 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,120 school teachers and lots of little children running around 595 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680 all these aborted babies. And they're going to be there 596 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,600 and, and they'll be some of us that'll be taking care of those 597 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,880 aborted babies, you know, which we're designed to be. 598 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,440 So it's going to be interesting to be there. 599 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,400 It's going to be even more glorious than I can even 600 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,000 imagine. Our minds can't even comprehend 601 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,200 it, no, can't even fathom how glorious it's going to be. 602 00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:00,160 It's going to be so amazing with no trouble and no tears and no 603 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,400 worries, no aging. My husband Robert says he 604 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,160 believes that we're all going to be about the age of Jesus when 605 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,240 he died at 33, because that's the healthiest year of our 606 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,400 lives. Did you notice when we're in the 607 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,480 best shape in our physical being? 608 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,920 Is it 33? So I'd love to be 33 forever. 609 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Wow, I haven't even got there yet. 610 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,480 So no, I know. I'm still coming. 611 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,680 Yeah. All right, so as we begin to 612 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,000 close, maybe there's something I've skipped over or didn't 613 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,440 know. Maybe God's prompting you to say 614 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,520 something more specific or something that he's revealed to 615 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,320 you more recently. Maybe you can close out like 616 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,720 that. Well, there's two things and 617 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,200 this. I've just learned that when the 618 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,520 Hebrew word for God is Yahweh and it is spelled only with 619 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,840 consonants, the Hebrew language doesn't use vowels. 620 00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:02,520 So it's just a WAY&AH and AW and AH, and that's how it's spelled. 621 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,280 And the Hebrew people didn't even say it out loud. 622 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,640 It was such a reverent name for God. 623 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400 So they didn't. And it's just breathed. 624 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:19,720 And so when you inhale, it sounds like Yahweh, an inhale 625 00:38:19,720 --> 00:38:21,800 and the exhale. I didn't know that. 626 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,760 I just. Learned that more recently too, 627 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,560 and when they did that I just was blown away I was. 628 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:32,400 Too, I was just blown away and it's just so true and and so the 629 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,120 first when God breathed in the man, he breathed his lot, his 630 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:43,680 breath and said Yahweh said his name and breathed his name into 631 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,280 me. Wow, just I was like you. 632 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,800 It just blew me away. And now when I have any thought 633 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,880 in my head that of of concern, because I don't worry, it's my 634 00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,640 personality doesn't work. So, but sometimes I'm concerned 635 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:06,680 I'll stop and I'll just go, and I'll just inhale and exhale. 636 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:13,720 And to know that my last exhale, inhale and exhale on earth will 637 00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:18,240 be saying God's name and my first in heaven, I'll be saying 638 00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,360 His name. And that's just so beautiful. 639 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,000 And sometimes I'll see someone and I know that they're 640 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,560 stressed. There's a problem going on. 641 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:33,040 I'll touch their arm and I'll go and I'll breed God's name as I 642 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,440 touch their arm and it's my way of a quick prayer for them. 643 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,000 So I'd like to pass that on to the audience. 644 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,480 It is such a gift to know that we can do that as we walk, just 645 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,440 walk through. You know, that also just sparked 646 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,720 something of how long have you been walking with Christ? 647 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,240 Now since I was 15. Since you were 15 so just to 648 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:58,600 learn that in your recent time of you know, walking this out 649 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,400 like we always have more to learn we all there's always ways 650 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,040 that we can grow closer with Christ and learn more about him 651 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,440 and just so it's just so amazing, you know that no matter 652 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,920 how long we've been walking with him. 653 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,840 Even Missouri learns different things, you know, new things and 654 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,360 just just. Being obedient to being 655 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,840 disciplined more so to continue to learn, yeah. 656 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,560 And then just, it's just gifts. We just, we continue to give 657 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,360 gifts like that. And and of course, Roberts been 658 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,360 to five different colleges. I mean, he's got so many 659 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,760 degrees. He knows you know less and less 660 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:38,880 about more and more every day. But just for it's still him too, 661 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,280 because he's just so knowledgeable about scriptures. 662 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:47,680 But just see the newness and the like a little boy and him just 663 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,520 come alive when he learned something new about Christ. 664 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,240 And that's just, Can you imagine walking through heaven and 665 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,920 Christ come up behind us and grab our hand and we walk 666 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,400 together. It's just going to be 667 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,440 indescribe. We can't even describe it now, 668 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,040 but just for the audience that doesn't know him, please get to 669 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360 know him. The other thing is just remember 670 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:16,440 Proverbs 18 is the words we use and pick words of life to give 671 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,560 to someone. So if you're married to AC and 672 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,400 you have no C in your personality, find the C words 673 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,560 and we have lists of them in our products of how do you talk to 674 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,560 AC? So we have their, our company's 675 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,920 personality insights and you can go online to our to our website 676 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,560 and see hundreds of books my husband has written on how, how 677 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:45,280 do you marry AC and you're a high eye, things like that. 678 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,880 And we also have materials that say for teenagers, this is what 679 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,440 AD personality will be good at doing. 680 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,760 You actually sent me some books for my small group, and I had my 681 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,440 girls do it and they loved it. They absolutely loved it. 682 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,160 And I was like, this is stuff that you're good at. 683 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,440 Like this is maybe a career that you want to look at. 684 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,120 They were in middle school, so, you know, But still, you know, 685 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,880 it gave them a better understanding. 686 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,920 So, OK, good. Yes, good deal. 687 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,520 All right guys, I really hope y'all enjoyed this as much as I 688 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,760 have. This has been absolutely 689 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,800 incredible. Like I said, there is just so 690 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,720 much you can learn about personality, so I really 691 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:27,240 encourage you to go check that out and look and try to grow in 692 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:32,160 this arena of knowing how to conversate with people and just 693 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,920 be a better you, being a better friend, being a better 694 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,240 everything, and above all else, growing closer with Christ also. 695 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,760 So Yep. Anyway guys, this has been 696 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,960 great. Stay tuned, stay blessed and 697 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,320 we'll see you guys later. Bye.