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What's up guys? 
My name is Alexis, your host 

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with praises in the pod. 
And I'm so excited to be back 

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with the Carlsons. 
We have already heard their 

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testimony separate together, all
of the above. 

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It was quite an adventure that 
first go around that y'all were 

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in here. 
But we're going to catch up to 

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what life looks like today and 
some of the hardships that 

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they've been going through and 
these valleys that they've been 

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going through. 
And so we're going to start off 

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in prayer and then we're going 
to jump right in. 

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So here we go. 
Lord Heavenly Father, just thank

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you for today. 
Lord God, thank you for all of 

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your many blessings. 
Thank you for allowing us to 

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come back and share what you're 
still doing. 

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Lord God, we have seen miracles 
already been worked and we're 

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proclaiming that there's going 
to be another miracle. 

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Lord God, we just know that you 
are good and we just pray our 

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lives glorify you. 
Lord God, we pray that today 

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glorifies you and that we you 
that you speak to us and through

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us. 
In Jesus name I pray Amen, Amen.

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Amen. 
So last time y'all were on we 

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got down to nitty gritty OK? 
Like when you left us and you're

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texting me and you're like, did 
I say something bad? 

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Like you were going through 
spiritual warfare? 

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Yeah, I just think it's hard to 
be like super vulnerable and 

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it's easier in like a one-on-one
conversation, but you worry when

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others are going to listen. 
Like, did I say anything that 

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would hurt anyone or was IA 
little too real? 

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Like? 
But I think it was good and we 

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did get a lot of people, like, 
texting us and messaging us that

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it helped them. 
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worthwhile. 
Like you kind of got to not 

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worry about what people think 
and just be honest. 

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I think it's really important. 
So well, when I was thinking 

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about it, I was like, I haven't 
had many reoccurrence people 

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come back on, right? 
And so for you to be able to 

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come back and share like, hey, I
did leave here a little worried,

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but I just saw the greater good 
of it. 

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Like, maybe I didn't say 
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didn't say everything great, but
you saw that God used that 

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message for other people, so 
that was good. 

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How did you feel when you left 
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I was good. 
You were good. 

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I guess Jess probably thought 
this time, well, Brandon's going

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to do it, so I might as well go 
with him. 

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Well and to the nerves are 
already off this time, like 

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y'all already know what to 
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You know it's all right, but I 
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Just in a different place this 
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Yeah, I'm in a different place, 
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Me, me. 
I mean, if you're friends with 

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me on Facebook, you know that 
it's, it's nothing for me to 

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share my feeling and, and share,
you know, I'm, I'm open with, 

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I'm an open book. 
I want people to to be able to 

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hopefully learn from my 
situations or whatever and learn

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what I'm going through and then 
you know, how to find enjoyment 

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or peace through hard times. 
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I remember we were actually 
talking about it because we did 

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go like so long. 
I remember the cameras died. 

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We didn't even have, like, a 
video on a lot of it. 

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And for yours, we were talking 
about like, I think I might have

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to take this part out. 
And you were like, no, this is 

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so important. 
And I had people reach out about

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the police accident, about the 
dog, Oh yeah. 

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And stuff like that. 
And they were like, Oh my gosh, 

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like, that is so sad. 
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big of, like, that impacted you,
like that impacted other people.

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And I'm just so glad that I 
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'cause back then I was fighting 
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Yeah, I was trying to figure it 
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I bet that's hard. 
But let's jump into what today 

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looks like what y'all have. 
I think it was probably what 

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like 8 months ago y'all came 
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It was a while, so try to catch 
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What's been going on? 
What it what? 

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Well, yeah, the first thing that
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Start with Jade first because 
that that's kind of that's kind 

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of a continuation from last 
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OK, you're right, you're right. 
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that? 
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about kind of just some things 
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life and how her faith was so 
strong and she was inspiring us 

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and just some hardship she was 
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biological mom. 
So we have their sweet news. 

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I actually am adopting Jade on 
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So that is just something that I
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And she and I are so excited. 
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found the joy in that, that it's
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Yeah, You know, it's not the 
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but we still have faith that 
this is, you know, a new 

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chapter. 
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We're not closing the book when 
Jay gets older and she can kind 

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of emotionally handle all the 
different possibilities that 

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would come along with that 
reunification. 

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I'll hold her hand every step of
the way through it. 

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But we got to a place where it 
was important to take that step.

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And really what started that 
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jump into where you can kind of 
tell your stuff, but like, 

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right, it was kind of going 
through this after we left the 

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podcast. 
He was saying things like, Hey, 

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I was just looking into it and I
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and if I, you know, if we pay 
this much a month, I can up it 

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because he's always had like I 
have pretty good life insurance,

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but he has not the best because 
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And so he was like, if I can 
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remission, then I can up my life
insurance and I'm like, what do?

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You mean for a decent price? 
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I'm like, what do you mean make 
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Like I'm just like, Oh my gosh. 
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like, you know, we really need 
to look into like, because at 

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that point, we had a full 
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He did. 
Technically, I'm stepmom. 

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Yeah. 
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Jade's always been in my life, 
she's always been one of my 

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babies. 
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things like, should we look into
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Because I mean, just if 
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and I'm kind of being like, like
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always like, I mean, he's an 
insurance, he's always 

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preparing. 
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ever before, like just very like
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row. 
I need to start college funds 

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for the kids. 
I need to do this. 

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I need to do that. 
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the process of like, OK, I'm 
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And I had contacted a lawyer 
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started. 
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going through in the sidelines 
was feeling this call to get rid

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of my salon and Warner Robbins. 
I'm trying to think whenever I 

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talk to you. 
Girl I literally text you. 

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I'm like what? 
Oh, see this guy, whenever we 

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came on the podcast, I was in 
Warner Robbins and everything 

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was good. 
Yeah, I like, I started feeling 

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this call like this isn't it? 
This isn't where I'm supposed to

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be. 
Nothing, you know, of course, 

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like the ebbs and flows of like 
owning a business and and 

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dealing with conflict and things
like that were difficult, but I 

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feel like it's not something 
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But for whatever reason, I was 
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I got to get out here and. 
You know, sometimes it's 

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unexplainable like we really 
don't know because if y'all have

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never seen Justice Salon, it was
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Like you know, you could tell 
that you put your heart and soul

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into that and that's always been
a dream of yours to have your 

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own salon and have just women 
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beautified and just pouring 
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And so when I did see you put it
up, I was like wow, hang on. 

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But you know when God calls us 
to things, it doesn't make 

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sense, but you just felt that 
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I recognized it at that as that 
at the time, but I definitely 

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felt a strong desire to like, 
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And for a little while, I kind 
of would joke around with Sydney

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about it. 
Like, hell, what if we just, 

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like, walked away? 
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seriously. 
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like, actually. 
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chatting and she was like, yeah,
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downtown Macon. 
I'm like, what if we like found 

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somewhere smaller in downtown 
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Because I was starting to 
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five kids, like when we ran out 
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things. 
Like it was Sydney having to 

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fill in the gaps. 
And I'm like, man, she's all the

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way in Macon. 
Or like, if I do it, I got to 

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bring my 5 kids into the store. 
It was a lot. 

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And so Sydney was like, you know
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We found the perfect little spot
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transitioned so beautifully. 
Like we had some hiccups or 

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whatever, but nothing 
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We transitioned just beautifully
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In Macon. 
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We were able to pay off all of 
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walk into Macon with. 
Business chair, not personal 

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debt. 
Business, business 

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clarification, we were able to 
pay off the salon and all the 

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investment that we had made and 
just kind of walk away with like

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that breath of fresh air. 
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We've only got 4 chairs, a lot 
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opened. 
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lawyer about adopting Jade not 
just because of the things 

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Brandon was saying, but it was 
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Like OK, while we still hold out
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in life, at some point, as hard 
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push down your empathy or 
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think about the fact that Jade 
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security. 
And we can still love and hope 

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and pray for Mom and realize 
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in. 
I mean, those feelings can 

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coexist. 
We talk about that all the time 

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with Christian waft. 
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joy and grief can coexist. 
Like just praying for her mom 

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but still doing what's best for 
Jade can still coexist. 

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Like you can still be praying 
for her and wanting the best and

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trying to do that. 
But also putting jade 1st and. 

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That's another thing I can see 
in retrospect, God working 

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because normally I'm going to be
like, well, I know that, you 

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know, she hasn't called in 
months, but maybe this or I know

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that she has never, you know, I 
know she hasn't like paid child 

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support, but maybe this maybe 
that I'm always looking for like

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the good or like an excuse or 
justifying. 

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Yeah. 
But I was able to just recognize

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like I can, I can feel this way 
for this person individually and

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know that like Jade needs that 
security. 

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And so that was a good thing. 
The day I opened the salon, I 

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mean, we were seeing some of our
most dear clients that we're 

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super close to. 
And like I said, Brandon has 

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been saying all of these kind of
cryptic things. 

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And one day, couple days before 
we opened, he is like I have a 

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rash and he's like I think my 
cancer is back. 

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It was a couple weeks I had that
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than that. 
You're right. 

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You're right. 
Well, you got the rash and you 

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were like worried about it. 
But I think like he had made an 

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appointment with his primary 
care doctor because he was like,

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I just feel tired. 
Like something's not right. 

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I feel really tired. 
I feel just not myself and like,

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I don't know. 
And then when the rash came, he 

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was like, I think my cancer's 
back. 

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And I was like, why are you 
connecting this rash with your 

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cancer? 
Like I'm trying to be positive 

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and he's saying because I had 
this rash when I was a teenager.

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Oh, all through, like when I was
a kid, like from like 10-11 

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years old all the way up until 
the first time I had cancer, had

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this rash, but. 
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Hang on, let's pause real quick.
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lining and trying to get these 
dot ducks lined up. 

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Like did you already like feel 
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Or what's your POV at this 
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Like, why are you trying so 
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and trying to adopt the adoption
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Like, where's your head at 
through all this? 

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Well, I just for the last, I 
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really just my walk with God has
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I've gotten closer to God and in
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disciplining myself. 
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book by I cannot remember his 
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society or the warrior poet, I 
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a biblical manhood and how a 

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biblical man are called to be 
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like, you know, at times being 
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your, your wife and your kids, 
but then at other times being 

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the warrior, the protector, the 
provider, stuff like that. 

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And I think it's chapter 6 in 
there, he talks about the death 

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letter. 
And he said that in because he's

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a former armed Ranger and he 
said that he encourages every 

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man to write a death letter. 
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in the military. 
They write death letters, not 

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intending to give it to anybody,
but write a death letter in 

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there and and write it to the 
people and to those that mean 

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the most to you. 
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doesn't go in that letter, then 
it's not a priority. 

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Ecclesiastes. 
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all about like, you know, vanity
is vanity. 

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You know, if you live for this 
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any purpose. 
You're not going to have the joy

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that you do with with God. 
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about these things. 
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thinking about death a lot and, 
and how I'm living my life, you 

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know, despite how short it is. 
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And then I started, I started 
feeling tired, which was unusual

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for me. 
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yeah, I'm go, go, go. 
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like, man, I just feel tired. 
And they're like, well, bro, you

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got five kids. 
Of course you do. 

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And I'm like, no, it's different
and it's not the same. 

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And then so I was already kind 
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and then that rash came back. 
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this rash has something to do 
with this. 

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And it's definitely back. 
So once the rash came, he 

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cancelled his primary care 
appointment and he went ahead 

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and went straight to the cancer 
doctor. 

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And so they did blood work. 
They, it's so crazy. 

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Like, so it's like all the 
while, OK, you talk about the 

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story with him being a cop and 
how deeply meaning that was to 

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him. 
I think last time we think I was

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working on trying to go. 
Back and always catch that. 

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So he goes to the doctor, they 
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He gets, he goes to his follow 
up appointment, they tell him, 

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yeah, blood work looks good, 
you're good. 

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So he's like, OK, So he comes 
home, he's like, I guess 

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everything's OK. 
I don't know, maybe I just need 

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to get like some blood work 
done. 

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Maybe I got like low vitamin BI 
don't know. 

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Something testosterone, 
something Yeah, that age and. 

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He's like, I don't know, maybe I
just need to take some more 

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vitamins, whatever. 
So then he gets a call that 

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says, congratulations, your 
certifications have been 

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renewed. 
You can go back into law 

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enforcement. 
Wow. 

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And he was so overjoyed. 
Not 5 minutes later, he gets a 

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call from the doctor's office. 
Hey, I'm so sorry we overlooked 

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something in your blood work. 
We need you to come in for ACT 

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scan. 
Your inflammation levels are 

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elevated. 
And so it was just such a crazy 

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moment of like this high and 
then this. 

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Oh my gosh, like what is 
happening? 

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So he goes back. 
They do ACT scan the day we open

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the salon, so the end of my work
day I'm working on my last 

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client who's a dear friend and. 
Danielle Lee will shout her out.

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She's the best. 
She leaves and he's like, hey, I

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need to talk to you. 
And I'm like, OK. 

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And I was joking around. 
I'm like, oh, we're going to 

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tell secrets. 
Like, what is it like? 

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Not thinking anything of it, not
knowing that Sydney, her mind 

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goes there immediately. 
So he takes me to the back and 

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he tells me they found something
on my CT scan. 

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There's a mass in my groin and 
I'm just devastated. 

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That's. 
Where it was last time it was in

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my groin. 
Yeah, well, it was in my groin 

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and then I'll up my in seven 
areas, but it originated in my 

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groin. 
Yeah. 

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And so I'm just devastated and 
I'm trying to keep it together 

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for him. 
And that was all we knew. 

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Like we didn't know. 
And he was like, but it sounds 

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like it's just in one spot. 
They'll probably just be able to

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do some targeted radiation. 
Like this isn't going to be as 

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bad as last time. 
Like it's going to be OK. 

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And I called my mom. 
I'm hysterical like once I get 

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away from him and I'm just so 
overwhelmed. 

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But he had a level head the 
whole time. 

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He's like, it's going to be OK. 
We're going to be OK. 

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And we've already got the 
process going of adopting Jade, 

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and it became more important to 
me than ever. 

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My motivation was even stronger 
because I was like, you know, 

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with him having cancer last time
it was stage 3, it was in seven 

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places in his body. 
Unfortunately, my mind went to 

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the worst place of like, this is
back now. 

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And this is almost 10 years 
later. 

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His chances of it coming back 
after five years of remission 

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were like less than 10%. 
He made it to 9 years and it was

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back. 
And if I made it 10 years and 

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it'd been like 99% chance. 
Almost like someone who's never 

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had cancer. 
So he was so close to like, the 

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finish line of like, cancer. 
And so we don't know anything. 

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I ended up knowing someone who 
worked at the doctor's office, 

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and she kind of explained the CT
scan for me. 

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And it's like, yeah, there's a 
large mass in his groin. 10 

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centimeters. 
Right, that's the. 

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Thing that's, you know, a 
woman's dilation when they're 

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having a baby. 
Yeah, so it was a large mass. 

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And she's like, I also see some 
spots in his abdominal cavity. 

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So that's when I knew it's not 
just in one spot. 

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And so we're waiting to hear 
back from the doctors. 

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It's taking a while and. 
Well, before you get too deep, I

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want to. 
Anyway, my mind is just thinking

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like I don't know what's going 
to happen and I was just fearing

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the worst. 
But I'll I was just going to 

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tell about deciding to leave 
work, but it's but yeah. 

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Before we get there. 
So I wanted to share something 

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with the law enforcement side of
it. 

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So, well, that process I had to,
I had to feel like like an 18 

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page application, fingerprints 
and everything. 

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And then I had to, had to have a
hearing. 

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I think it was in April. 
Yeah, the hearing was in April 

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in Austell, GA. 
And basically you go up there in

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front of the, the post council 
and you just, they, they 

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question you and you just share 
kind of, you know, what happened

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in the situation that got you 
fired And it, it, it caused you 

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to lose your certifications and 
why you, why you think you 

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should have them back? 
And so we went up there and 

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there was two groups and they 
each had like I think 7 people 

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and there, so it was 14 people 
all together. 

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And we got up there and, you 
know, and I was just very 

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honest. 
I was very honest. 

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I look, this is what I was going
through. 

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This is what I did. 
And you know, and then I was 

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honest about it from the 
beginning. 

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I told my Sergeant immediately 
and, and that's what led to my 

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firing and losing my 
certifications. 

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And I, and I said I was like, 
GBI even told me that they would

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have never known about this if 
if you didn't say anything. 

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And so, so we, we get down that 
find out, you know, they, they 

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told us right then that you 
know, that, you know, we, we 

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recommend, we recommend 
recertification for him and. 

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Mind you, there's 14 people, 
only person. 

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Every single other person, they 
said no. 

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Yeah, I was the only person that
they they recommended approval 

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from. 
But I'll also notice that I was 

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the only one that was honest 
about what I did. 

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And so that was a big lesson for
me. 

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It was, you know, immediately 
told my kids is like, listen, I 

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don't care how much trouble you 
think it's going to get you in, 

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be honest, have integrity 
because that can that can make 

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the you know, situation so much 
better if you just. 

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If it doesn't go your way, just 
the feeling of honesty and 

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admitting your mistake. 
Just the peace that comes with 

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the honesty for sure. 
Yeah, and so, and then, then 

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what happened there is then they
they send their recommendation 

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to the the Higher Post Council 
and, and they're the ones that 

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that's make the final 
determination. 

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But I was told like, and they 
pretty much always go with the, 

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you know, the the 
recommendation. 

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And so, yeah, it was the captain
and Byron, his name is, I forget

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his name, but right now I do 
because I'm nervous. 

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But anyway, he's the one that 
called me and was like on that 

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day and was like, yeah, you're, 
you're good to go because he's 

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on the post council and he said 
you've been, you've been good, 

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you're good to go. 
And I was. 

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I mean, maybe two to three weeks
away from getting a job. 

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Centerville PD like I was that 
close to being back in the law 

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enforcement. 
And then that's, you know, when 

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I got the call that that it was,
you know, not saying, Hey, it's 

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back, but I knew it was back, 
you know, and, and so 

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immediately I was like, well, 
I'm not I'm not doing law 

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enforcement. 
I'm done. 

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I think this is. 
God was like, hello, could I not

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drag you by your toes out of 
here? 

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Yeah, so those days are those 
days are behind me, but. 

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Well, I start perfect. 
Like I'm like, OK, I'm looking 

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up everything OK, What's going 
to happen now that he's his 

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cancer is back and he's going to
get chemo? 

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He's kind of like, OK, all 
right, I'm looking up. 

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No, he's going to have to go 
through salvage chemo. 

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This is going to be intense. 
This is going to be five times 

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stronger than the chemo he had 
the first time. 

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Chemo itself is meant to be 
tolerable for most people. 

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A relapse chemo is much 
stronger. 

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A lot of times you have to be 
admitted to the hospital. 

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And so I'm quietly like figuring
this out. 

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So I'm already like talking with
Sydney and being like, okay, I'm

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going to have to just like I'll 
just take like two or three 

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clients in the morning at like 
6:00 AM. 

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I'll get the people in that want
to come in before work. 

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And then like if you can just 
finish up all the blow dries, 

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like I'll come in at 6:00 AM and
then I'll leave. 

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And then I can maybe work like 
one Saturday a month. 

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But like, I'm trying to figure 
all this out. 

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I'm realizing how expensive all 
the medical bills are going to 

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be. 
We're going to have to be 

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admitted several times. 
We're going to have to stay in 

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hotels. 
So much was going on that I was 

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like, we just need to sell the 
house. 

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And that was God. 
I was like, we don't need it. 

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We don't need it was our dream 
house. 

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It was everything we wanted. 
But I just felt this immediate 

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detachment, this immediate like 
as I want him to be healthy and 

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I don't need anything else but 
for my kids to be OK and for him

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to be healthy and whatever we 
need to do because I'm thinking 

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I'm going to have to work less. 
And I was thinking he might not 

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be able to work at all. 
And I was like, the last thing I

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want him to do when he's trying 
to get healthy is be like, if I 

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don't sell this policy, like 
we're going to be able to pay 

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our mortgage. 
So I'm already I text Daniel 

446
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,680
Lee, the client that was in my 
chair. 

447
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,800
I said, do you think we'll be 
able to sell our house? 

448
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,000
I'm behind the scenes, like 
figuring that out with her. 

449
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,960
And then I bring it to him. 
And he was at first a little 

450
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,600
hesitant. 
Like this is this is everything 

451
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,960
we worked for, Like this is 
everything we wanted. 

452
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,640
And I said, just pray about it, 
you know, And then he, he ended 

453
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,400
up holding me and saying, like, 
if that's what you think we need

454
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,960
to do, I'm with you. 
So we listed the house. 

455
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,280
We don't even know how bad the 
cancer was yet, but I just knew 

456
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,240
I'm ready. 
I'm ready to like be in this 

457
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,400
with him and get through this. 
So I start looking at apartments

458
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,520
in downtown Macon because I'm 
like, for me to be able to work,

459
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,320
I'm going to have to be right by
the salon, like walking 

460
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,360
distance. 
We have one vehicle. 

461
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,240
We've got five kids. 
I'm like, I'm going to need to 

462
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,880
leave early in the morning so 
that it'll be when the kids are 

463
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,920
still asleep because he may be 
too sick to take care of them. 

464
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,120
And Sydney's telling me like, 
well, if you live really close 

465
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:02,920
to my apartment, like I'll walk 
over there in the morning. 

466
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,400
I'll help you with the kids, 
like, and then we can go to work

467
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,520
and then we can be back in time 
for them to wake up. 

468
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,440
I'm figuring all this out. 
So we find a spot in Macon. 

469
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,840
We I went ahead and paid the 
deposit everything and then for 

470
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,240
the apartment, for the 
apartment. 

471
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,720
Oh my gosh. 
That was again, I was out on 

472
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,880
that. 
He was like, he was like, 

473
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,720
whatever, because he was being 
more like, oh, it's going to be 

474
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,920
OK. 
They're just going to be able to

475
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,760
do radiation and I'll be all 
right. 

476
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,440
And I'm like, OK, and I wasn't 
trying to think the worst. 

477
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,960
I was just trying to prepare 
because I was like, this is 

478
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,760
going to this is going to make 
our lives like a lot different. 

479
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,200
Well, he he ends up being like, 
you know what, babe, like if 

480
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,320
that's what you want to do, like
that's fine with me. 

481
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,920
So he's like, let's take the 
kids to the park that's right 

482
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,240
there by the apartment and we'll
go and we'll play, we'll play 

483
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,120
with them and see what it's like
around the area because we 

484
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,760
don't. 
The only thing in making is the 

485
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,280
salon. 
And I was like, I was torn 

486
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,240
because I'm like, it's going to 
be difficult to live in Macon 

487
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,680
and have to drive the kids to 
their homeschool Co-op, you 

488
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,080
know, in Warner Robins and my 
parents are in Warner Robins. 

489
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,960
But in order for me to be able 
to work, I need to be right 

490
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,240
there because I'm going to have 
to work these odd hours. 

491
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,640
So we go play at the park close 
to the apartment. 

492
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,040
The kids are having fun. 
We go to go for a walk and the 

493
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,400
kids are wanting to go for a 
walk and then be ends up being 

494
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,360
like, I'm just really tired. 
Like I, I think we need to go. 

495
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,640
And again, I know him. 
This man comes home from working

496
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,120
all day and it's like, I'm going
to feed the chickens and cut the

497
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,160
grass and clean the house and do
the dishes. 

498
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,280
You sit down. 
Don't worry about it. 

499
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,360
I'm going to put all the kids in
that. 

500
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,000
Like he doesn't run out of 
energy. 

501
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,800
So for him to be like, I'm too 
tired to go for a walk. 

502
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,040
I'm just like, OK, this is, this
is serious. 

503
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,080
We drive past the apartment and 
I suddenly felt this. 

504
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:44,600
My heart starts racing and it 
was God. 

505
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,600
It was God telling me this isn't
right. 

506
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,520
Yeah, this isn't. 
What you There wasn't a peace 

507
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,320
about it at. 
All and I was I couldn't catch 

508
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,680
my breath. 
I was like, and I'm just over 

509
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,760
here dealing with this by 
myself. 

510
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720
So then I close my eyes and I 
start praying God, if this is 

511
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,280
not what you want, I need you to
help me Like I don't know what 

512
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,720
you want me to do and I'm I just
want to be obedient to whatever 

513
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,040
you need me to do in this 
situation because I want to be 

514
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,440
the best wife I can be. 
I don't know what to do. 

515
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,080
I didn't like hear an audible 
voice or he didn't speak to me. 

516
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,600
But all of a sudden I said out 
loud, we don't need to live in 

517
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,280
Macon. 
I need to stop working. 

518
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,280
And B was like, yeah, really? 
And I was like, yeah, I need to 

519
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,000
stay home. 
Which I'm I've always already on

520
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,360
that. 
We talked about that last time. 

521
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:27,800
I don't know if it was in the 
recording, but we had talked 

522
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,360
about like that was kind of what
you wanted to do at some point 

523
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:34,240
of just being home more with the
kids and stuff like that. 

524
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,280
Not that you want to step away, 
but you did want to be with the.

525
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,480
Kids. 
I wanted to be with the kids as 

526
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,240
much as possible, but I was 
hanging on for a dear life, too.

527
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,840
Yeah, my identity as a hair 
stylist to some people might 

528
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,720
sound silly. 
Yeah, because it's just. 

529
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,800
I'm not saying yeah, like it's 
silly, but I know. 

530
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,400
It was like my identity and it 
was my constant. 

531
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,960
And you know, when I was in high
school and going through the 

532
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,240
hardest times of my life, like 
that's what I clung to. 

533
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,800
That was who I was. 
I could do makeup and hair. 

534
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,040
And that was that was my 
connection to a lot of people. 

535
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,360
And I didn't want to do hair and
makeup for the hair and makeup. 

536
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,880
I wanted to be there for people 
and I wanted to, you know, just 

537
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,920
be somebody people to lean on. 
And so I clung to that as part 

538
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,440
of my identity. 
And I didn't realize. 

539
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,080
I think now I made it idle in my
life because it was so much of 

540
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,120
who I was. 
And just in that moment, I just 

541
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:23,480
knew like, and what's so crazy 
is that that never really was 

542
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,000
something I would be willing to 
accept. 

543
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,600
Like I I kept trying to step 
away a little bit, like maybe if

544
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,320
I just only work a few days a 
week or but I never thought I 

545
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,480
would just walk away. 
But when I said out loud, I need

546
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,800
to stop working, when I tell 
you, it was like, oh, and like, 

547
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,120
my heart stopped racing. 
And I, I felt peace. 

548
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,560
And Brandon's glad that I'm 
doing that. 

549
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,800
But he's also like, thinking 
everything's going to be fine. 

550
00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:51,560
So then we end up, it's taking a
really long time to get calls 

551
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,000
back from the doctors and 
everything. 

552
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,280
And his mom tells us about City 
of Hope in Newnan. 

553
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,320
So we go there and they do the 
PET scan and that's when we find

554
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,160
out that it is a 10 centimeter 
mass and his groin. 

555
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,160
And it's all up his belly, all 
up his gut. 

556
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,800
It's not into the diaphragm yet,
but it's touching his pancreas, 

557
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,440
it's touching his kidneys. 
So it's pretty serious. 

558
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,200
And that's when we found out 
that he was going to have to do 

559
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,360
chemo where it. 
Was stage 2, stage 2 Hodgkin's 

560
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:26,040
lymphoma? 
Stage 2 and so he was going to 

561
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:31,280
have to do chemo where he would 
be admitted to the hospital and 

562
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,520
do three days straight of chemo.
You know, typically when you're 

563
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,600
doing chemo, you go, you know, 
somewhere local, you sit there 

564
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,520
for like 5 hours or however long
and you get the chemo and then 

565
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,480
you come back like 2 weeks later
with this chemo. 

566
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,640
He was going to have to go and 
get chemo for three days 

567
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,120
straight. 
So we were going to have to be 

568
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:49,480
admitted to the hospital. 
A lot of times he would have 

569
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,840
appointments the day before, the
day after, so we were going to 

570
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,000
have to spend a lot of time up 
there and then we found out that

571
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,400
he would have to get a bone 
marrow transplant. 

572
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,800
And so that's that means that 
when chemo's done, they said 

573
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,800
that he would do 2 to 6 rounds 
so. 

574
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,920
We're at 2 right now. 
We we have a PET scan on 

575
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,880
Wednesday. 
We're praying for good results, 

576
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,600
but depending on how the cancer 
responds to the chemo, then he 

577
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,120
would go in for a a bunch of 
testing, bone marrow biopsy, all

578
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,720
of that. 
In December, he'll have they'll 

579
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,000
collect his stem cells. 
He'll have to get another week 

580
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,360
straight of chemo that's five 
times stronger than the chemo 

581
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,920
he's been getting. 
And then basically for the month

582
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,160
of January, he'll be admitted to
the hospital the whole time, 

583
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,080
getting the bone marrow 
transplant, really, really low 

584
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,360
immunity, really low white blood
cells. 

585
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,800
He's going to be very sick and. 
In that process, so it's there's

586
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,000
two types of bone marrow 
transplants and that's the one 

587
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,720
that we're doing is called 
autogenous. 

588
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,560
I can't remember the name of the
other one, but. 

589
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,720
I thought it was aloe. 
Think Aloe is the other one. 

590
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,840
Oh, OK, because I've looked. 
At this one. 

591
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,160
But so this one is, is a bone 
marrow transplant option where 

592
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,320
you don't need a donor. 
So they, they collect your blood

593
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,280
and they separate your stem 
cells out of your blood and 

594
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,080
they, and they store your stem 
cells and then they put your 

595
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,040
blood back into your body. 
And then for a week I have to do

596
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,120
chemo. 
It's like 5 times stronger chemo

597
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,200
than what I've already been 
doing. 

598
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,880
It basically just to like wipe 
your body clean of any of any 

599
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,960
cancer cells. 
And then while they're doing 

600
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440
that, they're also cleaning the 
stem cells that, that they've 

601
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,040
collected. 
And then afterward they, they 

602
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,000
reintroduce the stem cells into 
my body. 

603
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,360
And so for then I'll have to be 
in hospital for three weeks 

604
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,920
while they're, while they're 
doing that. 

605
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560
And then that's when they hit, 
he's like, you know, you're 

606
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,000
pretty much have like a newborn 
baby immune system. 

607
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,000
You have to get all your shots 
again and everything, which some

608
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,840
of my shots, not, not all of 
them, but but, and so that, 

609
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,480
that's the one that I'm doing. 
And that's, that's the typical 

610
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560
one for the second, like it 
comes back, you know, the second

611
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,520
time. 
And then he said it's about a 

612
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,640
again, about a 90% chance it 
doesn't come back. 

613
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,840
Now if it does, then that's when
they look at doing the, the, the

614
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,480
donor one. 
But we're going to we're going 

615
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,360
to keep praying hard that that 
God will you know, God will give

616
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,040
me a break with the with the 
cancer, but. 

617
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,760
Well, during this, like I know 
for you, you already said you're

618
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,080
breaking down on the inside. 
You're just distraught. 

619
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Like Brandon, how do you feel in
this? 

620
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,640
Like I mean, you've been so 
positive on social media, like 

621
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,560
if people follow you and know 
you like you have been so 

622
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,600
positive, but like how are your 
true raw emotions with God 

623
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,320
during this? 
Yeah. 

624
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,040
I mean, most of it is 
positivity. 

625
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,480
I mean, that's intentional. 
I mean, I can briefly kind of 

626
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360
walk you through because it's, 
it's been kind of a layered 

627
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,040
process and different emotions 
Immediately, you know, I was 

628
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:53,960
just praying that, you know, 
God's that, that, that, that God

629
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,560
will. 
Well, I'm trying to figure out 

630
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:02,800
just just praying that God's 
will be done, whether it's, you 

631
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,760
know, healing me or, or if it's 
me dying, You know, I just 

632
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,480
wanted, I've been, I was just 
praying like God and I want your

633
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,960
will to be done, whatever it is.
And then, you know, I wasn't, 

634
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,960
but I wasn't extremely upset. 
And then that was on a Thursday 

635
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:23,120
and then Saturday, that's when I
kind of had AI kind of had a 

636
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,280
breakdown a little bit and I, I 
texted my family and because we 

637
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,320
had like a group chat and I was 
like, Hey, I just, I want to 

638
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,040
hang out with y'all. 
And so we went and hung out with

639
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:35,600
everybody and, and then, you 
know, I'm feeling better and 

640
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800
stuff. 
And but it just, it, it just 

641
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,680
went into in different stages. 
You know, I was praying that for

642
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,200
a while. 
Just so you know, God just let 

643
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,360
your will be done. 
And I was trying to really, you 

644
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,120
know, I was reading, well, I 
don't know exactly where in the 

645
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,200
Bible I was reading, but I was 
trying to have this kind of like

646
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:56,360
Pauline aspect to, to my, to how
I feel about it. 

647
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,400
When what I mean by that is just
seeing how Paul writes it, you 

648
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,080
know, and in several places 
about boasting in our weaknesses

649
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,640
that I think it's in Romans, the
other one, you know, where it's 

650
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:17,280
talks about where Paul says, you
know, normally if I'm not on 

651
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,600
podcast, I can spit this stuff. 
Out I know you can. 

652
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,960
But we're, we're just talking 
about, you know, to live as 

653
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,760
Christ, but to die as game. 
Philippians. 

654
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,560
Is that Yeah, yeah. 
Philippians. 

655
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,520
OK, Jess, come on, Queen. 
Yeah. 

656
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,920
So is so I just replaying these 
things in my mind, you know, and

657
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,960
then just trying to find peace, 
you know, in regardless of 

658
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,880
what's how, what happens to me. 
And then I was talking to 

659
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760
somebody and they were like, no,
just like, man, you just need to

660
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,560
pray for a miracle. 
And so I was like, you know 

661
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,480
what, God, I want to pray for a 
miracle here. 

662
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,080
You know, it's God, heal me, 
heal me, you know, and, and I 

663
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,160
just kept praying that, But then
I, I don't know if you've heard 

664
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,240
of Josh Howerton. 
He's got a church in Texas, but 

665
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,880
I was listening to him one day 
and, and he's awesome and I love

666
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,080
listening to him. 
And then he was talking about 

667
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,720
how, you know how they pray in 
church. 

668
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,040
So among the elders of the 
church for people that are that 

669
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,600
come to them and, and ask them 
for a prayer for healing and 

670
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,600
stuff, he said they pray in 
three ways. 

671
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200
They say that God's going to 
either heal immediately through 

672
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,000
a miracle eventually, physically
or eternally. 

673
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,320
And so that's what they pray. 
They say to God, you know, you 

674
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,720
know, heal in one of those three
ways. 

675
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,680
And so then I kind of shifted 
and started praying more in that

676
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,720
way that that, you know, God 
heal me. 

677
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,320
But regardless of how that 
healing looks like, you know, 

678
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400
through a miracle, that'd be 
awesome, you know, and in for a 

679
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,160
while there when I was praying 
for a miracle, I thought that 

680
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,520
would be awesome. 
I'm like, man, God, you know, 

681
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,480
take what I'm going through and 
it would just be such a huge 

682
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,480
testimony, an amazing testimony 
to tell people that, you know, 

683
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,680
that, that you held me through a
miracle, that it was just gone, 

684
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,400
you know, but then when it 
didn't happen, you know, I was 

685
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,200
just like, OK, all right, and 
just try and just reprocess and 

686
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,639
I'm praying. 
And then I started kind of 

687
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,639
shifting more towards not 
praying for a miracle, but just 

688
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,520
praying for God's will be done 
regardless of what that is and 

689
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,159
me being at peace with that. 
And then if you know, for a 

690
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,000
while now, up until now, I just 
pray that. 

691
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,239
And I was telling Jeff she like,
I just want God to use this to 

692
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,719
glorify him, whether that's in 
my life or in my death, I want 

693
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,920
it to glorify him and I want his
will to be done. 

694
00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:39,360
And, you know, through it all. 
And, and so I just, I made a 

695
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,719
decision. 
It was like, I'm not going to 

696
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,600
let this tear me down. 
I'm not going to let this stop 

697
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600
me from, from living as best I 
can. 

698
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040
I'm not going to let it, you 
know, slow me down as best I 

699
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,360
can. 
But what I am going to do is I'm

700
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,400
going to change how I'm living 
and I'm going to use this 

701
00:34:54,400 --> 00:35:00,480
opportunity to show other people
that we can still find peace and

702
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,520
enjoyment or, or not necessarily
enjoy, but peace and joy and 

703
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,320
happiness in Christ despite our 
circumstances. 

704
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,680
And, and so that's why I'm, I'm 
so outspoken about it on 

705
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,440
Facebook or social media because
I want, I want people to see 

706
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Christ in me through, through 
hard in, in the, in the easy. 

707
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,920
And, and honestly, which I may 
have said this the first time, 

708
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,480
you know, for a while I have 
found myself longing for hard 

709
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,400
times because, you know, and 
then again, Paul talks about 

710
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,240
that, where it's it's like Paul 
talks about again, I can't 

711
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,160
recite for now where it's at, 
but he says if it was up to him,

712
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,400
he essentially he would rather 
die, you know, you know, it, 

713
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,360
life is so hard and, and doing 
what he's doing and preaching 

714
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,600
the word and it's just so hard. 
He would rather die, but it's 

715
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,920
better for those people that 
he's preaching to and it's 

716
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,840
better for the Kingdom that he 
lives, you know, and that's just

717
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,520
kind of like sometimes it is. 
I feel the same way. 

718
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,680
And I just thought that longing 
for Christ that long to be with 

719
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,680
him forever and not have to 
worry it not, I'm not being 

720
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,840
suicidal here. 
You know, it's, it's a, it's a 

721
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,160
different feeling, honestly. 
And as Christians, we are called

722
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,440
too long for Christ. 
That's that's not a bad thing. 

723
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,320
And so that's kind of how I was 
saying it. 

724
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:22,080
And so sometimes, like when, 
when things are going good, it's

725
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,960
like that's when I'm not the 
closest to God and I kind of 

726
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,280
pull away and do my own thing, 
you know, but when the times 

727
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,280
are, are hard, that's really 
when I'm, I'm like on fire for, 

728
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,320
for God. 
And, and I don't like that. 

729
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,320
I want to be on fire for God 
regardless of the situations. 

730
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,120
And so I've, I've, you know, 
I've told Jess and I've told 

731
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,920
other people. 
It's like sometimes I just, I 

732
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,240
long for those hard times. 
I, I long for the, the trials 

733
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:51,240
because I just, I miss, I miss 
being, you know, miss God's 

734
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,200
presence and I don't feel it the
same because I'm, and that's 

735
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,000
because of me, my own 
disobedience, my own rebellion, 

736
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,200
thinking I don't need him 
subconsciously. 

737
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,360
I'm not like actively thinking I
don't need you God, but it's 

738
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,240
like a subconscious things are 
great. 

739
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,200
You know I don't. 
You know, I don't pray as much 

740
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,000
and I'll read my Bible as much. 
But when, when times are tough, 

741
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,920
it all changes. 
I always talk about the 

742
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,120
scripture, you know, he's close 
to the broken hearted and those 

743
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,640
that are Christian spirit and 
like truly, that's exactly what 

744
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,720
that verse is talking about is 
being like in a desperate place 

745
00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:26,440
where you're crying out to God 
just to be in his presence and 

746
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,920
like for you to say like no 
matter what it looks like, even 

747
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,320
if it's not that miracle, like I
just long for healing and 

748
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:40,200
longing to be with him like. 
And I want and I want, I want 

749
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,240
people to be saved. 
So I mean, whether that's, you 

750
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,360
know, people saved through me 
and, and through my life and 

751
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,560
through him healing me through a
miracle, or if that's people 

752
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,640
being saved through again, my 
death, regardless of how it 

753
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,960
comes, I want it to happen. 
You know it from the very 

754
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,280
beginning. 
I told you this immediately. 

755
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,320
I look for me, it, it I'm good 
if I die because then I'm with 

756
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,040
my savior. 
I was like, oh, where I'm good 

757
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,200
if I live because I'm with you 
and my family. 

758
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,520
I'm good either way. 
And that is that is the main 

759
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000
thing that God has done in my 
heart through this is he is, he 

760
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,040
has developed that in me. 
He has given that to me. 

761
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,880
And so now my aspect or my, my 
viewpoint of life is I don't 

762
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,960
care if I die, you know, because
I, I, that's where I want to go.

763
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,040
I want to go, I want to go to 
heaven. 

764
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,720
I want to be with him. 
And so when you have that 

765
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,680
mindset, you don't care about 
anything else in this world. 

766
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,880
All I want to do is preach the 
gospel and I want to tell people

767
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,280
about Jesus and regardless of 
how it you know, regardless of 

768
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440
what comes about it. 
I mean, you look at all the in 

769
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,840
anyway. 
And I think about all the people

770
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,840
throughout history that have 
fault and have preached the word

771
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,440
and have fought for us today to 
have the Bible, to be able to 

772
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,080
have it on our on our coffee 
tables and have it in English. 

773
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,560
I mean, people have been killed 
and martyred and, you know, and,

774
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,640
and we go to Grove and Gabe, our
pastor one day. 

775
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,360
What's up was telling, you know,
was preaching about Peter and 

776
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:13,000
his when he denied Jesus three 
times, you know, and then once 

777
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,320
once he, you know, after 
Pentecost and stuff. 

778
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,600
And then he realized or before 
Pentecost, when he, when he met 

779
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,480
Jesus on the beach and Jesus 
essentially, he said, you know, 

780
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,200
Peter, will you, will you feed 
my sheep? 

781
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,560
Peter, will you watch, you know,
and stuff like that. 

782
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:30,120
He was restoring Peter there 
from the three times that he he 

783
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:31,720
denied Jesus, he was restoring 
Peter. 

784
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,600
And that's when Peter's life 
really took off. 

785
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,920
It was completely different. 
And Peter was so on fire for 

786
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360
preaching the word because he 
was full of the Holy Spirit. 

787
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,440
And Gabe was telling us about 
how he died, you know, and how 

788
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,880
they, they went to crucify him 
as like, I don't, I'm not even 

789
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,320
worthy of being crucified like 
my sacred. 

790
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,040
And so they crucified him upside
down and and before they 

791
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,640
actually crucified him, it's 
written by some extra biblical 

792
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:05,840
extra biblical authors that they
made him watch the people made 

793
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,520
them watch him crucify his made 
him watch them crucify his wife 

794
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:14,360
1st and he shouted out to his 
wife while this is going on, 

795
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,640
remember, remember our Savior, 
remember Jesus. 

796
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,040
And so that really like that 
tore me apart like I was in two 

797
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,480
years after that and. 
And just that and then all the 

798
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,560
other apostles being martyred 
and then people being burned at 

799
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,800
the stake because, you know, 
trying to get us to, you know, 

800
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,040
the Bible available for 
everybody. 

801
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,360
I just, I felt a lot of 
conviction. 

802
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:40,240
It's like, I mean, we have so 
much freedom to read this Bible.

803
00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:43,600
We have so much freedom to pray 
and we take it for granted. 

804
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,000
And I'm like, I'm not doing 
that. 

805
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,720
I'm not put I'm not taking all 
that that all these people have 

806
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:53,280
done in vain. 
And so, you know, and I've me 

807
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,600
and Jess have talked about a lot
like I just want to, I just want

808
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,560
to serve God. 
I just want to, I just tell 

809
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,320
people about him and be on fire 
for him and yell it from the 

810
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,000
rooftops because I want people 
to know what God is doing in my 

811
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080
or what he has done in my life. 
And I want people to feel the 

812
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,000
same thing in their life because
it's it's real and it's true. 

813
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,840
And then I can't tell you which 
will share your stuff story here

814
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,360
in a minute that it was just a 
very it was the first time in my

815
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,600
life that God has, in my 
opinion, audibly talked and 

816
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,360
reminded me that he's with me. 
But so that that's where I'm at.

817
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,040
And you know, and I told I told 
Jess because I used to I very 

818
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,200
similar with law enforcement. 
I made that my idol. 

819
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,360
That was my identity, which they
warn you about that when you go 

820
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,800
in like, look, this is not a 
job. 

821
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,880
This is a lifestyle like you, 
you will bleed blue for the rest

822
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,880
of your life. 
And that was true for me. 

823
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,760
And I was going to do everything
I could to get back to that. 

824
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,440
But that's not what God wanted 
for me. 

825
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,000
And I used to tell people, like,
if I could choose how I would 

826
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,160
die, it would be in the line of 
duty helping somebody that that 

827
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,000
would be how I would die. 
But now I was telling Jesse that

828
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,560
day, like, if I could choose how
I would die, I would choose, you

829
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,840
know, as a martyr. 
Like I doing what I know Christ 

830
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,920
wants me to do, spreading the 
word. 

831
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,520
And this is a little dark, I get
it. 

832
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,840
But this is my heart. 
This is where I'm at. 

833
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,560
And I don't care how I have to, 
how it has to happen. 

834
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,720
I just want to tell people 
regardless of what it brings to 

835
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,200
me. 
Yeah, but when we were on the 

836
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,960
way home from church yesterday, 
he was kind of sharing his heart

837
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,080
with me about this, and he just 
was moved to tears, saying like,

838
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,920
I'm just so grateful for 
everything God said in my life, 

839
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,480
and I just know I'm not 
deserving. 

840
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,480
And he's just crying tears of 
joy and I'm looking at him and 

841
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,640
I'm like, you don't care. 
I'm like, as your life, seeing 

842
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560
what you're going through and 
seeing you move to tears for 

843
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,960
everything that God's doing in 
your life like that is inspiring

844
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,640
to me. 
And you have to think like, we 

845
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,040
spent a lot of time not knowing 
how progressed the cancer was. 

846
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,560
And so a lot of your mind goes 
there. 

847
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,840
Your mind really does go there. 
And I mean, I of course I'm 

848
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,600
praying for the miracle and the 
whole time because this is my 

849
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,680
person and this is not just my 
person. 

850
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,160
Even if this wasn't my husband, 
this is the best person I've 

851
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,040
ever met. 
This is the person that led me 

852
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,360
to Christ. 
And this person I've been just 

853
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,240
has, I've watched him go through
so much and just be so positive.

854
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:34,560
And I'm a different person 
because of him and I, I thank 

855
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,960
him for being a willing vessel 
to, to help bring me to Christ. 

856
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:43,320
And I just, I'm thankful for the
darkness and the hard times too,

857
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,600
because I know for me, before I 
came to Christ, it was 

858
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,560
definitely one of those people 
like God is real. 

859
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Why does he allow, you know, 
cancer and sickness and you 

860
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,560
know, all these things that you 
look on to people, even maybe if

861
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,520
you are a Christian and you just
have what I say is like a 

862
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:04,600
fragile faith, like how could 
God allow this to happen? 

863
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:06,120
Which we've grown in that area 
too. 

864
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,640
I have not felt that way. 
I that's one thing that shocked 

865
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,920
me is like from the moment we 
found out, like I've definitely 

866
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:20,680
had some hard times, don't get 
me wrong, but I have not been 

867
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,760
angry at God. 
That's what I was going to say. 

868
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,920
We we, you know, I know you're 
like beautiful, like if you've 

869
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,640
been angry at God. 
We haven't been. 

870
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,680
Yeah, we have not been. 
Now it's we, we have kind of 

871
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,680
thought about this because 
we've, we've actually been going

872
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,760
through Jonah at church, but 
we've just been going through 

873
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,440
the idea, you know, this and 
it's debated like, does God 

874
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:47,240
allow things to happen to us or 
does God put storms in our life?

875
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:51,360
You know, and, and people think 
differently, you know, because 

876
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,640
you look at the life of Job, you
know, God allowed those things 

877
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,280
that happened to him. 
But then you look in, you know, 

878
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,320
look at Jonah, he, he straight 
up sent a storm into Jonah's 

879
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:07,600
life because of his rebellion. 
And so kind of how I've grown in

880
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,960
that question, which again, it's
hard, if you're not a Christian,

881
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,320
understand it, but how I've 
grown that is, it's, it's all of

882
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,480
them. 
You know, sometimes he allows 

883
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,160
things that happen to us for, 
for his certain purpose. 

884
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,200
Sometimes he he sends storms in 
our lives to, to discipline us 

885
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,040
and correct us. 
And so I don't know what this 

886
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,560
is. 
I don't, I don't know if I think

887
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,600
there's probably an aspect where
God put this gave this to me 

888
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,680
because I needed to slow down. 
I needed to reorient the 

889
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,320
priorities in my life because I 
had some priorities where I was 

890
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,560
putting some things as 
priorities in my life that 

891
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,120
shouldn't have been. 
And and so it would not surprise

892
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,000
me, but that's OK. 
I'm not, I'm not mad at God for 

893
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,760
that. 
You know, God has got, he can do

894
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640
what he wants. 
I mean, I, I'm not deserving of 

895
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,560
any blessing. 
So, you know, it that, that, you

896
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,800
know, if he needs to correct me,
just like I would my kids, you 

897
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,440
know, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm 
going to discipline my kids to 

898
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,600
correct them if they're, if 
they're doing wrong. 

899
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,160
Yeah, that's love. 
And so that, that's just an area

900
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:12,960
that we've, that I've grown in. 
But before you jump on, I would 

901
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:18,960
just say the, the to, to sum up 
my feelings is, is, is, is that 

902
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,000
is that I'm, I'm good with 
whatever happens. 

903
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,240
I just want God to be glorified 
through it. 

904
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:27,240
And I want his will to be done. 
And I have been really praying, 

905
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,800
reminding myself, God, your 
purpose is perfect and it is 

906
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:35,040
good. 
And so from that your will is 

907
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,280
perfect and good. 
I was going to say, I think 

908
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,360
whenever we first found out and 
yes, I was like devastated 

909
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,880
because I'm picking up like him 
suffering and I'm picking up 

910
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,360
just all these all the like 
logistics of like, how are we 

911
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,720
going to make this work? 
And then, but even like, even 

912
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,600
immediately, I'm like, look at 
God. 

913
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,120
Like if I would have still owned
the salon in Warner Robins with 

914
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:02,320
12 chairs and had all of that on
my shoulders and Sid would have 

915
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,040
had to drive back and forth from
Macon every time there was no 

916
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:07,440
toilet paper, You know what I 
mean? 

917
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,960
Like that would have been a lot 
heavier burden to carry. 

918
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,400
Me selling my agency. 
Him selling his agency before 

919
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,360
when we had Carlson Insurance 
Agency, he was a one man show. 

920
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,480
He wouldn't have been able to 
step away the way that he has 

921
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,440
been able to. 
There was just so many ways that

922
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,360
it's like God orchestrated our 
lives to this moment. 

923
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,240
And my immediate reaction was 
like, OK, I'm not feeling angry 

924
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:36,520
at God. 
Like I'm sad that this is 

925
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,520
happening, but it feels I still 
felt that peace. 

926
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,200
And I think I, at least at 
first, felt like, OK, God is not

927
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,080
giving Brandon cancer. 
Like we live in a fallen world 

928
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,120
and we are living, we're in the 
world, may not be other world, 

929
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,080
but we're in it. 
And we're having a worldly 

930
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,240
experience. 
But just like Shadrach, Meshach 

931
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:59,760
and Abednego, there's another 
person with us. 

932
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:06,200
And so we're not abandoned and 
I'm we have not lost sight of 

933
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,960
God. 
And so it's like that was really

934
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,520
apparent. 
And then not only that, but 

935
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,640
like, he sends people to help 
us. 

936
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:19,080
And so, I mean, my parents, they
were like, move in with us. 

937
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,840
Like we were looking at places 
to rent. 

938
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,280
Like it never even crossed my 
mind. 

939
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,600
But my parents are like, move in
with us. 

940
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:26,520
Like, we'll help you with the 
kids, We'll help you. 

941
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,520
And I am so glad we made that 
decision because when he went to

942
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,640
chemo the very first time, he 
still had this mentality of 

943
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,160
like, I got this, like, I've 
done this before, I got this. 

944
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,760
And he does got this, but he's 
human. 

945
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,120
And so after chemo, he was very 
sick. 

946
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,000
And you, I don't think he was 
expecting to feel the way he 

947
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,960
felt. 
And so we went back to my 

948
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,160
parents house to get the kids 
and we ended up just never going

949
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,480
home. 
Like we just moved all our stuff

950
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,440
in and we, we've been living 
with my parents even though the 

951
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,600
house hasn't sold yet. 
And it's been just so amazing. 

952
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,720
And seeing how God is working 
through my parents, who My 

953
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,960
parents are Christians, Yeah, 
but dad still able to use the 

954
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,960
people in our lives to help us 
and like. 

955
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,680
And boy has he, man. 
I mean, we have been over people

956
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,120
from across the country that we 
don't even know giving us $500, 

957
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,720
you know, texting us again, 
don't even know. 

958
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:20,920
I'm praying, praying for you, 
Brand. 

959
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,880
If you need any encouragement, 
I'll check in on you. 

960
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,200
And just the thoughtfulness 
people. 

961
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,680
My my friend Kenzie at the 
salon, she did a meal train for 

962
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,280
us. 
The people that did the meal 

963
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,000
train, I don't know them. 
Those are her people. 

964
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Amazing. 
Danielle Lee, again, she's the 

965
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,720
one selling her house. 
She came and helped me pack. 

966
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:45,480
She has given us so much help. 
She took our cats. 

967
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,560
It was taking care of them, I 
mean. 

968
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,760
Costly asking, is there anything
you need or I mean just? 

969
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,240
And it's taught me like, it's, 
it's God showing me how I can 

970
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:57,440
show it for people because I'm 
somebody that like, I'm like, 

971
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,760
oh, maybe they don't need that 
or I'm not sure what they need. 

972
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,520
Like, I don't really know how to
help. 

973
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,440
These people are like, I'm going
to help you whether you like it 

974
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,800
or not. 
And so that, you know, that has 

975
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,600
shown me like we are not 
abandoned our children. 

976
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:16,680
I mean, the way that Jade just 
naturally moved towards, I knew 

977
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,320
that she would be OK with me 
adopting her because when 

978
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,400
everything first happened, it 
was it was a sad thing, but it 

979
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,920
was amazing to see her trust in 
US and knowing that we would 

980
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,000
never lead her astray and we 
would do the right thing for 

981
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,480
her. 
So I knew she would understand 

982
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,640
that if we felt like that's what
needed to happen, that she would

983
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,760
be OK with it. 
But what I didn't expect was her

984
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,480
desire for me to adopt her and 
the way that she again showed me

985
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:47,240
just that she's like, I forgive 
my mom, but she can't take care 

986
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,360
of me right now. 
And I I didn't feel safe there 

987
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,800
and I wouldn't feel safe. 
I'm just a kid. 

988
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,600
And you know, she ended up 
writing a letter to the judge 

989
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,720
asking like, please let my 
stepmom adopt me. 

990
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:00,800
And that was that was all on her
own. 

991
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,800
You know, I'm just seeing her 
life and looking at everything 

992
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,600
she's going gone through. 
And that's that's where she came

993
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,400
to. 
I didn't have to say, Hey, this 

994
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,040
is what we need to do. 
Like she was ready for it. 

995
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,160
And she, you know, that meant a 
lot because that would have been

996
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,400
another thing, you know, again, 
we still would have done it 

997
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,400
because as parents, you know 
what's best sometimes. 

998
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,160
But it was, it eased my burden 
knowing that she was so willing 

999
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,400
to receive that. 
So. 

1000
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:27,400
Yeah. 
And it's. 

1001
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,240
Been amazing and you're her 
sister also did a GoFundMe for 

1002
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:34,120
us and and we've been blessed a 
lot through that. 

1003
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,440
But there was just one 
particular person on there that 

1004
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,680
gave $5. 
And that made us cry. 

1005
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,720
Yeah, that made us cry. 
And it's like we appreciate 

1006
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,960
everybody regardless of how much
you gave, but that you just 

1007
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,840
seeing that $5 that it just, it 
shows you like this person. 

1008
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,080
That's probably all they had to 
give it. 

1009
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,480
Reminds me of that story in the 
Bible where the lady. 

1010
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,840
Gave everything she had, yeah. 
And come to find out like. 

1011
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,800
It was my it was my sister's 
friend. 

1012
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,000
She's a single mom. 
Single mom and she's. 

1013
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,720
That's what she had to give. 
And it's just like to feel like,

1014
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,840
Oh my gosh, it's like you almost
have to get rid of that 

1015
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,880
discomfort of like, I don't feel
worthy of that people helping 

1016
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,920
us. 
I mean, my sister, the GoFundMe 

1017
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,400
shoot it, I mean, it raised like
exactly enough to pay. 

1018
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,640
We had to pay out of pocket for 
his PET scan and that was a few 

1019
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,520
$1000 out of pocket and it 
covered that exactly. 

1020
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,880
I mean, just times it's like, 
God, math, it doesn't make 

1021
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,360
sense. 
Like you're like, OK, we're 

1022
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,240
going to, we're going to fall 
short this month. 

1023
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,560
We're not going to have enough 
to pay for this, but then 

1024
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,400
somehow. 
It is all it is all been taken 

1025
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,480
care of. 
Because even right now I 

1026
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,200
sometimes say like, oh, well, 
it's because we're living with 

1027
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,120
my parents. 
So we don't, oh, we still own 

1028
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,240
the house, We're still paying 
for it. 

1029
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,520
But like, somehow, I mean, my 
parents like our grocery 

1030
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,520
shopping. 
And then like the lady who runs 

1031
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:52,040
the children's church at our 
church, I know her but not super

1032
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,560
well, but she's an Angel. 
And she came up to me and she 

1033
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,760
gave me grocery gift cards and 
said, give these to your mom. 

1034
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,640
And that meant the world to me 
because like she, you know, 

1035
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,760
people forget about the village 
that you have. 

1036
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,200
And people say, oh, like, I 
don't know how you do it with 

1037
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,000
five kids because I have people 
in my corner helping me so. 

1038
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:13,400
And it's not just that, like 
Grove Grove Church has been 

1039
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,720
absolutely amazing to us. 
I mean, we've only been going 

1040
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:18,120
there since April and there's a 
lot of people we don't know. 

1041
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,960
But I mean, even from the very 
beginning, we were going to put 

1042
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,160
our kids out, the younger kids, 
and they care there. 

1043
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,640
And they were like, hey, we got 
you don't have to pay for. 

1044
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,120
It I didn't even know the lady. 
I sent a message and said, hey, 

1045
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,040
I'm so sorry. 
I was planning on putting my 

1046
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,800
kids in, but we've had some life
situations happen so I'm not 

1047
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,080
going to put them in this year. 
Maybe next time doesn't know me 

1048
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,280
calls me. 
Hey, you know, you don't have to

1049
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,560
share if you don't want to, But 
I'm just wondering, is it 

1050
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,960
logistics that's causing you not
to bring them or is it a 

1051
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,800
financial burden? 
And then I, I told her I was 

1052
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,880
like, well, you know, my husband
just got diagnosed with cancer. 

1053
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,240
We're going to have some 
unexpected medical bills and I'm

1054
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:56,520
going to be stepping away from 
work. 

1055
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,280
So we're just really having to 
tighten things in. 

1056
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,800
She's like, OK, well, thank you 
so much for sharing that with 

1057
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,520
me. 
Next thing you know, she calls 

1058
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,760
me. 
We want to cover all your kids 

1059
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,120
tuition for the hour. 
I mean, and it's like, we've 

1060
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,320
only been going there a couple 
months. 

1061
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Ultimately, I wasn't able to 
send them logistically because 

1062
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,400
we only have one car and we are 
having to go back and forth to 

1063
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,960
appointments. 
But just the fact of people 

1064
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,240
building being such willingness.
But it has been so hard to watch

1065
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:24,160
him suffer for sure. 
Y'all been talking about the 

1066
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,440
Grove and stuff and so Jessica 
actually just came in. 

1067
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,880
Jessica Cox came and recorded 
and she actually was talking 

1068
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,960
about Jonah and gave sermons 
about that. 

1069
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,240
So it's cool that both of these 
are going to go like almost 

1070
00:54:37,240 --> 00:54:39,280
back-to-back and they're both 
going to tie into each other 

1071
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,760
because. 
It's just great. 

1072
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,480
I I love our old church. 
I love Pastor Tim there nothing 

1073
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,160
against our old church. 
It's just we kind of got brought

1074
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,360
here to and I'm having very bad 
Vertigo right now. 

1075
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:56,680
Just say on that very weird. 
But but yeah, so we we just one 

1076
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,760
day we're we're going to be late
to our old church. 

1077
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,720
And I was like, hey, I know a 
lot of people to go to Grove and

1078
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:02,720
it's like 5 minutes dollar. 
Let's just go check it out. 

1079
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:07,080
And we did and our our older 
kids didn't really like the 

1080
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,600
older church. 
Don't know why could they could 

1081
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,760
never really point to why they 
could. 

1082
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,920
They didn't like it. 
And but after that first Sunday,

1083
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,720
man, they were raving. 
Even Jade, who's shy and raving 

1084
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,080
about how much look like I want 
to go to the summer camp. 

1085
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,640
I want to do this. 
I'm going to do this. 

1086
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,880
And I let the gentleman think we
got something here. 

1087
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,120
And so we just kept going and 
kid just kept loving it. 

1088
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,840
I really enjoyed it. 
I sat down with lunch and talked

1089
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,920
to Gabe because I'm, I'm, I take
that stuff seriously. 

1090
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,720
Like, I want to go not just 
where I'm being fed, but where 

1091
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,280
my wife and my kids are being 
fed. 

1092
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:45,560
And, and so we, we made a 
decision just to to stay there. 

1093
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,560
And when I tell you that we have
not, it has not been a Sunday 

1094
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,640
that we have gone to Grove and 
we do not feel like that Lord 

1095
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,520
has just like, OK. 
He's like a straight. 

1096
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,400
Too. 
Yeah, like, I mean, it's just. 

1097
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,400
Just hold here. 
I mean conviction and just I 

1098
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,760
mean really and the way that 
Gabe does it, and I'm not 

1099
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,400
trying. 
I'm not trying to endorse Grove 

1100
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,000
trade yet. 
You go, go where where you want 

1101
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,000
to go, where the Lord's leading 
you. 

1102
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,560
But just in our lives, just we 
appreciate how Gabe does it, 

1103
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,200
where he just like takes similar
self out of it. 

1104
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,680
That's what I said. 
I'm like, I love him as a 

1105
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,480
pastor, but also it's like, 
again, it's just him allowing 

1106
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,640
the Holy Spirit to move through 
him. 

1107
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,520
Like it's so not about him. 
Yeah. 

1108
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Yeah. 
So we, we have just been super 

1109
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,000
blessed and it's again, God work
and just sending us where, where

1110
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,200
we feel like we needed to be. 
And so far through that church, 

1111
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,560
I mean, it's just God has 
really, really done a lot in US.

1112
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,480
Yeah, that's awesome. 
And you go ahead. 

1113
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,280
There you go. 
I was just saying, I know you 

1114
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,080
mentioned like vulnerability and
everything. 

1115
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,960
And I will say, like just in 
full transparency, while I 

1116
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,400
haven't been angry at God and 
neither has Brandon, like I've 

1117
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,960
had some really low times 
because it is hard. 

1118
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,720
I haven't missed working in the 
salon, which has been 

1119
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,160
surprising. 
But I've kind of, and I think a 

1120
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,080
lot of stay at home moms can 
relate to this. 

1121
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,800
I'd like, wait, like, am I 
anything? 

1122
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,560
But, you know, just a mom or 
whatever. 

1123
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,280
And some of it's not even bad, 
like he talked about Solomon. 

1124
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,280
And some of it's just like you 
get, I don't know if you've ever

1125
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,200
experienced this in your walk 
where you just want to live for 

1126
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,960
God so badly that it's almost 
even hard to like in the world. 

1127
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,160
Like not in a not in a super 
dark way, but just in a way of 

1128
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,200
like, what's the point? 
What's the point in going to 

1129
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,160
this social event? 
Like at all they you like, it's,

1130
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,720
it's hard to connect to worldly 
things. 

1131
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:34,320
But I still, I, I mean, like the
other day I was just slow down. 

1132
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,480
I was just like, I don't even 
know how to describe it other 

1133
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:44,200
than just kind of just feeling 
just sad. 

1134
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,080
Just really sad. 
Yeah, you were pretty depressed 

1135
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,000
the other night. 
Yeah, that's the worrying I 

1136
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:49,880
used. 
I was like, I just feel 

1137
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,600
depressed, but it's not an all 
the time thing. 

1138
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,520
And I know I'm not abandoned. 
It's just, you know, it's hard 

1139
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,400
to be, you know, we're about to 
be 32. 

1140
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,200
Like, we've worked hard, we've 
done the work. 

1141
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,920
We've gotten to this place with 
our children to be like, OK, now

1142
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,960
we're living with my parents and
I'm not working. 

1143
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,200
You know I built this. 
Is the second time, yeah, we had

1144
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,480
to live with my parents for a 
little while. 

1145
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,240
I mean, it's just. 
It's like we, you know, I owned 

1146
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,560
a business hand, but it's it's 
it's humbling and it's but you 

1147
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:21,960
do realize that it truly like 
you can't take it with you. 

1148
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,440
And I see, you know, my kids are
thriving and I'm so grateful for

1149
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,760
how they've really navigated the
situation. 

1150
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,120
And and like you said, God is 
close to the broken hearted. 

1151
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,040
Yeah. 
And, and, and after this, I 

1152
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,920
mean, again, God is using this 
opportunity to, or the situation

1153
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,560
to just reveal to us how we 
were, you know, we're rebelling 

1154
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,240
in certain areas, you know, 
buying 2 houses that we had no 

1155
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,000
business buying and, you know, 
not really being careful with 

1156
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,400
our finances and stuff like 
that. 

1157
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,320
And we're in a place now where 
it's like after this. 

1158
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,800
So we mean we're just, we're 
going to buy a modest house, 

1159
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,320
nothing crazy because we don't 
need it. 

1160
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,360
Yeah. 
We don't need it. 

1161
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,160
Yeah, like we, we just want to 
live a simple life with our 

1162
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,080
kids, raising them up to be, you
know, in, in, in a biblical 

1163
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,040
foundation. 
And we just want to be 

1164
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,640
missionaries, you know, 
wherever, wherever that means, 

1165
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,120
you know, wherever, whether it's
different country or America, 

1166
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
which I'll argue that America 
needs it more than a lot of 

1167
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:22,560
countries right now. 
But we just, we just want to, we

1168
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,040
want to do whatever God has for 
us. 

1169
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960
And, and I'm telling you right 
now, I'm not going to forget all

1170
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,160
the people that have helped us 
at giving us because I mean, in 

1171
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:32,480
some way we're going to pay 
these people back. 

1172
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:39,120
So as we begin to close on this,
maybe I like to close it out 

1173
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,200
three ways. 
I don't know if we did this last

1174
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,480
time, but maybe you have a piece
of advice, piece of advice for 

1175
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,760
somebody. 
Maybe God's revealed something 

1176
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,320
to you more recently that you 
really do want to share. 

1177
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,200
Or three, maybe you were in the 
car coming here and you were 

1178
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,120
like, I really want to share 
about this and I haven't given 

1179
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,600
you the opportunity to do so. 
So Jess, how about you start it 

1180
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,800
out? 
How would you like to close this

1181
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:07,080
for your segments? 
I would. 

1182
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:11,560
Just say, like for me, what has 
changed in me since the last 

1183
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,480
time I was on the podcast was 
just like really quieting that 

1184
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,200
voice of shame and really, 
really trusting that that is not

1185
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,120
from God. 
We were, we were talking about 

1186
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:27,400
like how God, you know, God will
call you and one day you just 

1187
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,560
answer and I'm like, yeah, I 
don't know. 

1188
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,600
And then I look back and 
realize, wait a minute, he was 

1189
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,800
calling me when I was younger. 
That insecurity and that desire 

1190
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,360
to fit in and like just that 
voice of shame is because the 

1191
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,760
enemy did not want God getting 
close to me. 

1192
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,880
And now I'm realizing like, as 
long as I can recognize that. 

1193
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,640
And I would say that to to 
anyone that's listening is just 

1194
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:55,000
as long as you can recognize 
that shame is not from God and 

1195
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,480
that he does want good for your 
life, you're on the right track.

1196
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,960
And I thought it was really 
important the other day at 

1197
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,080
church when Gabe talked about 
there is you can run and run and

1198
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,800
run and run, but there's you 
cannot run too far. 

1199
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:11,200
You have to come back to God. 
And so, you know, just that 

1200
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,520
shame when, when he was talking 
to me the the night I got saved 

1201
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,640
and he's, and I told him 
everything I've been through all

1202
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,120
the mistakes I've made. 
And he said, you know, God knows

1203
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,360
every decision you've ever made 
and he still chooses to call 

1204
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,280
your name. 
So I would just say that to 

1205
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,800
anybody listening that, you 
know, you don't have to clean up

1206
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,480
your life 1st and then go to 
God. 

1207
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,920
You just pray and you just 
humble yourself before the Lord 

1208
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,480
and you just ask Him to come 
into your life and He will 

1209
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,240
convict you of the things that 
need to be convicted. 

1210
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,320
Do not let shame keep you from 
going to God. 

1211
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:47,120
That's good and I just want to 
say to like just watching your 

1212
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,880
spiritual growth girl is just 
amazing. 

1213
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,520
Just sitting here and like 
Brandon, like I can't think of 

1214
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:54,400
it. 
You're like Philippians, 

1215
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,960
Philippians and I'm like, this 
is not the same Jess, you know, 

1216
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:04,640
like truly God has just just 
changed you inside out. 

1217
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:09,560
Like you are just glowing like 
even in this hard time in this 

1218
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,240
hard chapter right now, like you
walked up and I'm like, girl, 

1219
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,160
you looking good. 
You know, you just truly are 

1220
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,000
glowing and it's just so 
beautiful to see you in this 

1221
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,520
life and just the loving Jesus. 
And that's exactly how it should

1222
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,320
be. 
Well, when we come to Christ, 

1223
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,440
there should be a change, yes. 
And we should not look like the 

1224
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,480
same people. 
And that's exactly how it is, 

1225
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:29,080
yes. 
Yeah. 

1226
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,640
Absolutely. 
That's what that's what I'm 

1227
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,000
thankful for in this really dark
spot. 

1228
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,080
Like I would never choose for 
Brandon to go through this, but 

1229
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,840
I will tell you that him going 
through this has brought me 

1230
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,520
closer to God. 
And it was almost like, just 

1231
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,480
like, I'm not going to say it 
was that push I needed, but like

1232
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,600
any walls that I had that were 
keeping me from just fully being

1233
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,000
like, I just want to, I just 
want to reveal the fruits of the

1234
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,440
Spirit to everyone around me. 
Like, come on. 

1235
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,120
I don't care anymore. 
You know, I mean, I don't want 

1236
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,600
to offend anyone. 
But now I realize, like, there 

1237
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:03,760
is no condemnation, condemnation
in Christ. 

1238
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,400
Like if I'm telling you that the
Lord is good. 

1239
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,720
Yeah, like hopefully you'll just
see that in, in the way that I, 

1240
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,800
that I live my life because 
absolutely, it's all I care 

1241
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,440
about now. 
That's where me and you were 

1242
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,280
different. 
I, I would choose this again if 

1243
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,680
I could. 
I mean, it's just been an 

1244
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,200
absolute blessing in our lives. 
And one thing that I didn't 

1245
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,680
share earlier is one thing that 
that God has done in my life is 

1246
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,520
he has really helped me find joy
in the sufferings of this world.

1247
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,640
And so, you know, I just get to 
look and like I, I get to share 

1248
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,200
in the sufferings of Christ. 
And that's, that's a big thing 

1249
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,960
for me. 
Are you done? 

1250
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,520
OK, It's going to be kind of 
funny because her, her advice is

1251
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,920
more of like an emotional 
oriented mind's going to be more

1252
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,200
action oriented. 
But that's very indicative of 

1253
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,680
who we are. 
But for me, I got two things. 

1254
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,360
One, if you're not a Christian 
or if you're a baby Christian, 

1255
01:03:59,960 --> 01:04:03,040
the things of this world are 
nothing compared to what God has

1256
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,720
in store for you and Paul talks 
about it again, can't recite 

1257
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,840
where it's at, but Paul talks 
about it and he says very 

1258
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,280
similar words and the word that 
he uses is translate to 

1259
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,880
literally dunk crap. 
The word the things of this 

1260
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,960
world are crap compared to 
Philippians. 

1261
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,600
I don't know the thing that's 
the Rome is that might be in 

1262
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,320
Romans or one of the 
Corinthians, but it's in there. 

1263
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,000
The world. 
The things of this world are 

1264
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:31,040
crap and or nothing compared to 
what God has a store for you. 

1265
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,160
And so I would, I would, I would
lean into that. 

1266
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:41,200
And then two, something that I'm
really big on right now is as 

1267
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:45,480
Christians, you know, strong 
Christians, mature Christians, 

1268
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:50,320
whatever, whatever level you 
fall on there, specifically in 

1269
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:54,880
America, I think that we need to
stop being addicted to 

1270
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:59,440
convenience and stop being 
addicted to comfort and get off 

1271
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,520
our butts and tell the world 
what Christ has done in our 

1272
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:09,680
lives and tell the world that 
Jesus is king, that he is alive 

1273
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:17,800
and stop worrying so much about 
our own lives and, you know, 

1274
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,800
living our best life. 
That's not what Christ calls us 

1275
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,640
to. 
Christ calls us to love those 

1276
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:26,440
around us and to serve those 
around us. 

1277
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:30,560
And he was the greatest example 
of servant leadership that we 

1278
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,360
will ever find. 
And so those would be my 2 

1279
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,920
pieces of ice. 
And there, there needs to be, 

1280
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:38,440
especially in America, that 
needs to be a change. 

1281
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,400
Absolutely. 
Well earlier if y'all did see me

1282
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:46,160
on my phone, I promise I was OK.
But so this morning two things I

1283
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,480
read in Joshua this morning and 
I thought that was so crazy. 

1284
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,520
Not because God's crazy or 
anything, but just because y'all

1285
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,200
are coming on today. 
And I know that y'all have a son

1286
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,680
that's his name is Joshua and 
he's also named of of the books 

1287
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,200
of the Bible because of that. 
But then the Joshua tree and 

1288
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,920
then y'all got married right? 
Am I saying this all right? 

1289
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,960
OK, well then I couldn't 
remember what scripture I was 

1290
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,120
reading, but all day I've just 
continuously been thinking 

1291
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,200
Joshua 19 you know, be strong 
and courageous literally. 

1292
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:18,160
And so I just wanted to kind of 
say that of have I not commanded

1293
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,400
you be strong and courageous, do
not be afraid, do not be 

1294
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:26,280
discouraged for the Lord your 
God will be with you and so like

1295
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,480
or be with you wherever you go. 
But you know, I just had that in

1296
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:34,360
my head all day and I just know 
that God is with y'all. 

1297
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:38,360
You can see that y'all are both 
like just pouring out the gospel

1298
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,360
to anybody and everybody that 
will listen. 

1299
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:41,560
And it's just so amazing. 
Well. 

1300
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,880
That is one of my favorite 
verses. 

1301
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,320
Yeah, he had the tattooed. 
On I know, and that's why I was 

1302
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,800
like wait. 
So I was like, I was getting 

1303
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,960
coffee and there was like a 
sticker at the top and it was 

1304
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,240
Joshua 19. 
And when he had cancer the first

1305
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,600
time, that was the verse that 
was on all the like posters his.

1306
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:00,600
God is so intentional about 
everything. 

1307
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,200
Oh, we. 
Didn't share the story? 

1308
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,160
What about like when the first 
time that God has really spoken 

1309
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,360
to me? 
So the last. 

1310
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,120
Time y'all thought we was 
finished. 

1311
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,880
The last time and then I don't 
know if you can do it, but we 

1312
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,320
made a TikTok of it and you and 
I don't know if you could 

1313
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,920
possibly like link it somehow to
the end. 

1314
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,040
But so we're sitting in I'm 
sitting in bed, she's beside me 

1315
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,640
and she's you know, and I'm 
sick. 

1316
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:28,960
I'm not doing well and I think 
it was on Friday night and Jess 

1317
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:33,400
is playing this little TikTok 
game where she puts a picture or

1318
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,760
she downloads or uploads a 
picture, whatever, and then it 

1319
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,840
it randomly selects a sound for 
that picture. 

1320
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,040
And we're watching them and 
they're all hilarious. 

1321
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,800
Yeah, they are all like. 
Funny and inappropriate and. 

1322
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,400
Yeah. 
And then she was like, I'm going

1323
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,080
to do you. 
I'm do you. 

1324
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:48,840
So she takes a picture of me and
puts it on there. 

1325
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,880
And immediately it's this pastor
just talking about how God is 

1326
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,720
with you. 
God's going to get you through 

1327
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,920
this. 
And and I mean, it's about it's 

1328
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,040
about two minutes long. 
If you could figure out a way to

1329
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,920
put it like make it at the end 
of it. 

1330
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,600
I mean, yeah, absolutely spot 
on. 

1331
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:07,160
And I and I was, I was like, 
there's no way. 

1332
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:08,200
There's no way. 
That's right. 

1333
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,520
And you did that on purpose. 
She's like, I swear I didn't. 

1334
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,720
And so for me, I really think 
that's like the first time in my

1335
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,120
life that I feel like God has 
audibly spoken to me. 

1336
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,560
And and so right then it's like 
again, I'm, I'm good. 

1337
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,920
Yep, I'm good. 
Well, this has been absolutely 

1338
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,479
incredible. 
If you have not heard that 

1339
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,399
y'all's first time being on 
here. 

1340
01:08:28,399 --> 01:08:33,680
I did look that up too, and it 
was episode 22 and 23. 

1341
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,640
Let me see what those names are 
though. 

1342
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,399
Comfort in God's presence was 
Jess. 

1343
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,520
And then two was never too late 
for redemption, and that was 

1344
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,479
Brandon's. 
But then y'all's together too. 

1345
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:46,040
So if you have not listened to 
those, I'd definitely encourage 

1346
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,240
you to go back and listen to 
y'all's awesome testimonies 

1347
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,720
then. 
And I just want to reiterate 

1348
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,760
too, that just because people 
come on here, your testimony is 

1349
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,520
always evolving. 
You are all God is always 

1350
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,560
revealing yourself, himself to 
us, you know. 

1351
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,760
And so like exactly why I wanted
y'all to come back on. 

1352
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,319
Because God has just still been 
working. 

1353
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,720
He never stops. 
And, and I will encourage 

1354
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:12,439
anybody if, if y'all have 
questions or don't know about 

1355
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,880
Jesus or just going through a 
hard time, please reach out. 

1356
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,120
Please. 
You know, I'm I again, I'm an 

1357
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,600
open book. 
I will pray for you. 

1358
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,760
I will go to lunch with you. 
I don't care. 

1359
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,479
I'll read a book with you being 
well, because that's what we're 

1360
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,200
we're reading a book together 
and I've read books with some 

1361
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,680
other people. 
Just anything I can do to help 

1362
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,040
help those help people, you 
know, help people just find 

1363
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,720
Jesus and then get through the 
things they're going through. 

1364
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,279
Well, guys, please reach out and
just check out that video. 

1365
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:41,840
We're going to figure out a way 
to get that in there so you can.

1366
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,760
Yeah, I'm going to figure out 
the link and I'll post it. 

1367
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,600
But thanks guys so much. 
I hope you enjoyed this as much 

1368
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,880
as I have. 
Stay tuned, stay blessed, and 

1369
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,279
we'll see you guys later. 
Bye.

