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What's up guys? 
My name is Alexis and I'm Abby 

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and we're your host with praises
in the pod. 

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We are super excited to be back 
and record something for y'all. 

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We're also going to be 
announcing a little something 

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something, but we're going to 
start off in prayer and we're 

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going to jump right in. 
So here we go Lord Heavenly 

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Father, just thank you for all 
that you continue to do in our 

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lives. 
Lord God, thank you for bringing

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us to this moment in time right 
here with your hand on top of us

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and just being able to lead and 
guide us always. 

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Lord God, we just pray that you 
speak to us and through US today

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and let this episode glorify 
you. 

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In Jesus name I pray. 
Amen. 

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Amen, girl. 
Yeah. 

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So you want to jump off or no? 
You jump it off. 

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Sometimes like I jump so far in 
like really quick and I'm like, 

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I kind of like, you know, he's 
into it, filled it up a little 

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bit. 
I was recording. 

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I didn't want to just throw it 
out there yet. 

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When was all recording 
Wednesday. 

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I was recording on Wednesday and
literally I said, Amen. 

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All right, girl, go ahead and 
tell us about yourself. 

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And I'm like, why do I do that? 
Like like we can have a little 

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conversation before. 
Gee, you're going to build it up

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just a little bit, and where 
they're like, wait, what is she 

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going to say? 
Why? 

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Is it? 
Yeah. 

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Was that one news? 
And remember when we did or I 

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posted the one video with the 
suitcase and I was like 5 days 

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until I announced something big 
and it was you coming on to be a

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cohort on podcast. 
Everybody starts like sending me

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all this stuff and it's like, 
what is it? 

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I'm like before like you're 
going on tour. 

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I'm like, oh. 
I do remember them saying you're

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going overseas going. 
Overseas, going on a miss 

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mission trip, all kinds of 
stuff. 

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I'm like, Abby's coming on the 
podcast. 

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They were so let down. 
It's like, Dang, OK, Anyway, 

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well, we have talked about a few
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kind of like maybe voiced a 
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never really said. 
So anyway, it's your business to

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tell. 
So you, you go ahead, girl. 

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Yeah, so amazing news. 
We, me and Dexter are bringing 

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another life into this world. 
I am pregnant due in January. 

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You. 
Did just find out the gender 

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after a long debacle? 
Actually, yeah, it was. 

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It was a long debacle. 
But I didn't. 

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We just found out we're having 
another little girl. 

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So we already have another 
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I'm sure you've heard us talk 
about her, but if not, her name 

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is Sutton Sutton Joe. 
She will be 3 in August and now 

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we're going to have another 
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So total girl parents. 
Dexter is a total girl dad. 

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Yeah, so it's going to be fun. 
I can't wait to see Sutton as an

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older sister because she's going
to do so good. 

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I know she is. 
She's going to be great. 

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I just hope that our next one 
has a voice because that girl 

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likes to talk. 
Oh, I'm like, girl, are you 

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saying because Sutton's quiet? 
I'm like where? 

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When No, because she's not. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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You might need a quiet one then 
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That would be nice. 
That would be nice because, you 

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know, so if you get 2 chatty 
Kathy's, gosh, like there ain't 

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no quiet time around the house. 
None. 

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None. 
But. 

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I know that, like, y'all had 
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Yeah. 
And so like, you kind of went 

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into a season of waiting, right?
And so maybe tell us a little 

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bit about that and like, how 
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Because I know like with Sutton,
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decided like, oh, let's start 
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So with this one, this pregnancy
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Yeah, it was totally, totally 
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My first pregnancy, like you 
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quick. 
You know, it happened really 

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fast and kind of unexpected. 
And we were just super excited. 

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And I was so shocked that it 
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I was like, Oh my gosh, how am 
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Is this really happening and 
you're so nervous? 

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It's your first time and then 
the second time and some people 

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might have heard of it. 
We really struggled to get 

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pregnant. 
It took a really long time and 

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it. 
Like it's called like secondary.

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2nd infertility, yeah, like 
where you just struggle your 

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second time around. 
A lot of people struggle with 

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pregnancy or pregnancy loss, 
which thankfully, you know, I 

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didn't have to go through that 
season of any type of loss or 

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anything, but it just took a 
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And so it was heavy. 
There was one point time where 

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it got really heavy where, you 
know, you think, oh, she's a 

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Christian. 
She's so close to the Lord, You 

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know, she's so in his word and 
this and that, which I am and 

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I'm so covered by his grace. 
But it doesn't take away some of

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the emotions and things you go 
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To continue to build your faith 
and continue to build that 

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closeness and, and knowing who 
God is in your life. 

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And so we'll kind of get into 
that more, but that's kind of 

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what happened was it took me to 
a different place. 

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And even though I was still here
recording with you and doing all

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of the things and staying, you 
know, obedient, staying in His 

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word and continuing to push 
forward, I was still going 

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through that season and still 
had some hurts and still had 

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some questions and still had 
some things. 

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But it didn't deter me from what
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Didn't deter me from who really 
mattered, you know what I mean? 

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I was going to say because you 
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because I mean I knew but I 
never knew that you were 

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actually really struggling with 
it until the other night when 

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you're telling me like you were 
having all these like crazy 

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thoughts like and just being 
like so like consumed with it at

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one point. 
And like I didn't know that. 

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So like people from the outside 
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were struggling or anything like
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But like I knew that we have had
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that y'all were trying so I 
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Well, it, you know, a lot of 
people start asking when are 

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y'all going to have the next 
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And nobody doesn't intentionally
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upset. 
Nobody intentionally ever did 

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that. 
But you know, when it came to 

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that six month period, that's 
whatever got really hard. 

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After about six months you start
thinking, OK, what's really 

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going on? 
Like, you know, something hasn't

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happened and now people are 
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to go on each month continues to
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And you finally, I finally did 
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let everyone know, you know, 
when we're trying, it just 

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hasn't happened yet. 
Like his own God's timing. 

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But it still was really hard. 
It got harder the longer time 

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went on. 
So and I, you know, want to talk

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about some things with that and 
hopefully provide hope to women 

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out there or somebody that is 
struggling with it. 

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And just kind of the mindset I 
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God helped me to be in to really
understand what was going on and

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where my heart and mind needed 
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waiting and navigating that 
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Because there was times of pain 
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there were times where the enemy
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times and He was coming after me
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And that's what's the hardest. 
It's not even the physical 

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aspect, it's the mental aspect 
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And the Lord put a lot of my 
heart in that time and a lot 

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that He helped me to see and 
understand with His plan that 

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hopefully, you know, we can 
share and talk about today. 

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Yeah, I love how you said like 
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Like no one intentionally asked 
that to try to like do something

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like it's just a conversation. 
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just asking, you know? 
But then like, it does bring up 

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heavy things because it's like, 
do I tell them like, hey, we 

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have been we've we we would love
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Or do I say like, oh, you know, 
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Like, you know, like all the 
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hard. 
It was hard to line a balance 

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that was like, you know, do I 
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And I did kind of start saying 
that, especially to those closer

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around us. 
Me and Dexter are trying just 

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pray, please pray about it. 
That's what I would say, 

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especially to his family and 
stuff like just pray for us. 

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Just pray about it because we 
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We would, we do want Satin to 
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I don't want her to go through 
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And that's what kind of was 
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she's not going to have us 
forever, you know, but she would

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have her sibling for her 
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I grew up as an only child. 
Like, I do not have siblings, 

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like whatever. 
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impact of being an only child, 
really until this stage of my 

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life where I'm like, man, when 
my parents do pass away or like 

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anything, like, I don't have 
anybody around me like Greg, you

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know, like his brother and 
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stuff like that. 
So like, I don't really have 

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siblings. 
And I'm like, man, this stinks, 

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you know? 
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But I didn't think of that when 
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I never even it never even 
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So yeah, yeah, that's and and 
that's something that I felt 

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like God did put on my heart was
I I do want her to have that 

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throughout her lifetime because 
she's not going to have us 

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forever. 
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even in your situation, God is 
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that are family. 
You know what I mean? 

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That's going to be there with 
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But. 
You're a lot, man. 

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I mean, yeah, you're a little 
longest standing 1. 

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So you're you got to girl. 
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I guess that's going to be me. 
So no, but I just, I wanted her 

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to have that really bad. 
And you go through that time 

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where it's just not happening 
and you start questioning like, 

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maybe this is God's plan. 
Maybe she's not meant to have a 

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sibling, but you just have so 
many different things going 

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through your mind and your mind 
starts to take over, right? 

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And so that's the navigation 
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What do I do with all of these 
thoughts that's coming in my 

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mind? 
And that's when I had to really 

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learn to hand them over to the 
Lord and work through them with 

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Him and what He was going to 
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So, you know, I kind of want to 
talk about what I had to do or 

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what mind shift He put me in. 
And it really, let me kind of 

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just say the verse in in what 
Jesus was doing in this verse 

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that kind of led to my mindset 
process, if that makes sense. 

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So the verse is it is written, 
man shall not live on bread 

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alone, but on every word that 
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So in that time Jesus was in, 
was it the Garden of Gethsemane?

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Yeah, and he was being tempted 
from the devil to just turn the 

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rocks into bread at that point 
in time, because this was right 

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before his crucifixion to 
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And I wrote down, how often do 
we pray to God to give us things

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to satisfy our temporary needs? 
And I felt like I was praying to

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God a lot during that time. 
But it was for my need of owning

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a child, right? 
And there's nothing wrong with 

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that. 
But it was still just what Abby 

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wanted, so I had to get to a 
point where my earthly needs 

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didn't over shadow my desire for
the one who provides those 

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needs. 
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And that's the mindset I had to 
get to was who is the provider 

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of this that I'm praying to? 
My desire for him has to 

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outshadow any of those things. 
Yeah, which going off of that is

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like we're given that desire to 
be mothers. 

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Like that is something that 
we've created, he says. 

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Be fruitful and multiply. 
Like we have that desire, but 

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you have to want His will and 
His timing above your own. 

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Yeah, that's why I put in these 
moments. 

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We can almost realize, have I 
just been a fan of Jesus or am I

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being a true follower of Jesus? 
Come on. 

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Well, I surrender my plans to 
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can live a life of faith and 
trust in Kim. 

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So and that's powerful, that's 
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you got to be in when those 
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times are you're not getting 
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OK, well, let me ask the 
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Am I only desiring the things 
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him? 
Who's the one on the cross? 

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You know what I mean? 
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makes you sit back and think and
makes you sit back and, and 

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realize what's the true desires 
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like our true only desire should
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That should be #1 and, but 
sometimes obviously the things, 

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you know, earth side that we 
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kids, those desires can take 
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overshadowed. 
It does, and it's like one of 

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those things where it's going to
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start like, honestly, not maybe 
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that. 
That's when you have to come to 

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yourself and deny your flesh and
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because I catch myself, like, 
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like, oh, got this wrong. 
Yeah, this backwards, you know, 

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like, and that's full 
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Like sometimes our phones can be
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the morning and it's sling on to
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God. 
We were talking about that the 

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other night, you know, just 
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our flesh like. 
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deny those things to make sure 
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Yeah, for sure, 100%. 
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Jesus knew what he ultimately 
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said, you know, I have to live 
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God only, nothing else, right? 
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calling that God had put on his 
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had to be fulfilled for you and 
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And it's in, it's that word will
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The joy, the hope, the things 
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the things I thought the child 
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me. 
It should be the sustenance of 

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my life. 
Only, you know, and it's hard 

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to, it's easy to say that. 
It's hard to live that out. 

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It's really easy to sit here and
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But when you do take that leap, 
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is going to be tested at some 
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and you decide, OK, I'm either 
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going to start questioning 
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When you go all in and you truly
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sustenance of your life is all 
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you experience a type of peace 
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things were getting really tough
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was struggling mentally and I 
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Him, I had peace. 
That's why I really and truly 

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situation than anything else 
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Everything was his plan. 
Everything was according to his 

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will in my life. 
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took all of the worry and 
everything away from me. 

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Yeah, which I mean, I totally 
agree with that because when God

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spoke to me two years ago, I had
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Like I, yeah, because there was 
so much chaos around me and Greg

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trying to conceive, like it was 
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like it became very task full, 
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And it's like this mental war. 
It is like so tough. 

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But then when God spoke and he's
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yours. 
Like no matter what. 

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And it was so clear, I had so 
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Like I'm like, wow. 
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this in my testimony the other 
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for that. 
No, in that season because truly

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me and Greg did not need A to 
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environment. 
And the way that we have been 

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living for the past two years, 
like I've tried to be a little 

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bit more open about that. 
Like we were really struggling. 

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Like we're on the brink of 
divorce. 

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And like, if I would have had a 
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have been where I am with 
Christ. 

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Greg probably wouldn't have met 
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stuff. 
And it was like we're, that was 

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just a fleshly desire. 
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We just wanted a kid so bad that
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we're not living right. 
I don't care if we're not doing 

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this to glorify God like I 
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Thinking about anything or 
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Exam that moment so now I'm 
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stage where I'm like, OK, you 
know I'm I'm ready to know more 

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like XYZ like so I don't know. 
And I wrote this down. 

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I said, you know, have you ever 
been broken and never felt more 

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whole? 
Because that was me in that 

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moment. 
I felt broken about the 

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situation, but I felt complete. 
And it's like God is so close to

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the broken hearted. 
It's it's the worst and best 

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feeling in the world because 
you're overwhelmed with his 

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presence. 
And it's like painful or pain 

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and peace at the same time. 
They coexist together and it's 

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really hard to explain, but in 
that moment, you, you and I were

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probably experiencing that pain,
but we had peace and they 

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coexisted together at the same 
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And only God can do that. 
I'm so glad you said that 

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because I have been getting this
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recently. 
Like grief and joy can coexist. 

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Like we can be grieving how 
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that moment. 
We can be grieving, but we can 

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be so joyful about the life that
God has given us. 

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And I know that's what you're 
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have understood that more 
recently. 

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Like I think Pat even said it a 
few minutes ago. 

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It is something that God put on 
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Exactly what you're saying. 
I was grieving, not being able 

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to conceive. 
I was hurting. 

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But God told me to start praying
and being joyful for the women 

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that are conceiving and that He 
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Or not just blessed, but that 
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them in that time. 
Because my time too will come no

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matter what that picture looks 
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And start praying for them and 
being thankful for them and 

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thankful for what God is doing 
in their life. 

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And boy, did it do something to 
me. 

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I mean, it really did to pray 
and be thankful for somebody 

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else's pregnancy. 
Even though let's just be 

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honest, sometimes you're like, 
that hurts to know that they 

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just announced their pregnancy. 
And you see that and you see 

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that and you see that and you 
wish it upon yourself. 

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But Nope, I'm going to take my 
mindset and change it and be 

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like, thank you God for doing 
that. 

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I don't know what your plan is 
for their life, but I'm going to

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pray for that child and thank 
you for who you are because you 

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are the the ultimate provider. 
You are you hold the ultimate 

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plans for everything that 
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And thank you for that. 
And, and you're holding that 

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grief, but you have that joy for
what you see in other people's 

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lives and what he's doing. 
And it's at the same time 

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they're coexisting together. 
That's good. 

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That's good. 
While we're talking about all 

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that, I did make a video the 
other day saying that God 

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revealed himself to me in a 
mighty way again, like he did 

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two years ago. 
And since we're talking about 

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that, we're talking about kids 
and we're talking about all 

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this, I was like, you know what?
Let me go ahead and like kind of

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voice it. 
So more so I said that I've 

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gotten to the point where like I
want to know more. 

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Like God already said that I was
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like, how is that? 
How's that going to come about? 

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And so I started seeking God 
about that. 

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And while I was at Passion, I 
wrote that in my journal and I'm

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like God, you know, like, are we
going to adopt and foster? 

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Because I had been heavy on my 
heart like for the past like 2 

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months, probably longer 
actually, Mallory's episode, 

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something was kind of like 
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why I'm crying so much in 
Mallory's episode. 

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But something starts about 5-6 
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gotten heavier the past two 
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Anyway, Well, while we're at 
Passion, I wrote that in my 

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journal. 
Adopt and foster or have a baby.

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Naturally, I open up my devotion
and it instantly is talking 

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about Abraham and the promised 
job. 

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And I'm like, what? 
OK, God, like your promise still

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stands. 
Like I got it. 

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I got it. 
Well, then the next night at the

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camp, they're talking about 
Exodus 3. 

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They're reading out Exodus 3 and
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Well, like I have for real lost 
it because earlier in the week I

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found this piece of paper and it
said holy ground and it was 

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underlined and it was my mom's. 
Let let me just say that like I 

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found this notebook at my mom's 
and I was using that for the 

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week. 
And so in in his sermon, he's 

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talking about holy ground and 
I'm like, Oh my gosh, that's so 

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crazy. 
I just found a piece of paper 

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that said holy ground on it. 
Then he goes and says, what's 

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what do we do when we're 
writing? 

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Is it like and something's 
important? 

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Do we maybe bold it, we 
italicize it, maybe we underline

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it And I'm like, what? 
Like I have a piece of paper 

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that literally says holy ground 
underline. 

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And then he goes to follow it up
with God's so big he has the 

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rival. 
He has no eagle. 

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Well, babe, that's my favorite 
worship song. 

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Like we're talking about a 
beautiful name. 

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So now we got another thing 
going. 

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So I get the girls Bible beside 
you're like, let me listen. 

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Yeah, I'm like, hang on, I'm, 
I'm, I'm Pete. 

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I'm in there. 
So I get the girls Bible beside 

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me and I'm just talking about 
like, or ask her. 

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And I'm reading in Exodus 3 and 
nothing's really clicking. 

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Like I see where it says under 
holy ground, I see where it says

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all this stuff. 
But I genuinely did not know 

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what it was trying to say to me.
But it was talking about Moses 

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in the burning Bush. 
I'm like, OK, there's another 

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sign, but where is it? 
So then I'll start reading the 

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context on the side like it had.
What's it called? 

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Commentary, Commentary on the 
side. 

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And so this is what it said. 
It said like the ark that 

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protected Noah, this small 
basket sustained Moses until 

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Pharaohs daughter found him. 
The daughter was ill equipped to

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nurse a baby, so she called a 
Hebrew woman, the mother of 

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Moses, to nurse the child. 
Miraculously, God provided 

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deliverance for the baby, but he
did so through the very one who 

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tried to destroy him. 
Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's 

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daughter and was raised in 
Pharaoh's house. 

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Moses, Egyptian name means is 
born, which sounds like the 

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Hebrew name for drawn out. 
And so like, maybe if I'm 

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reading that to somebody like 
you or anybody else, like you're

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like, oh, OK, but that spoke to 
my soul, that spoke to my 

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spirit. 
Like I knew just the day before,

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girl, like I'm not even lying 
the day before I wrote in my 

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journal and I'm like, are we 
going to have a baby naturally? 

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Are we going to adopt in foster?
And then literally all of this 

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intentional stuff that's been 
going on because God's so 

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intentional. 
The girl beside me had that that

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Bible that had that commentary 
in it. 

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I found this piece of paper that
says holy ground underlined and 

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he's talking about underlined 
and holy ground. 

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Like what? 
And then all of this. 

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So it's just like, you know, for
me, that's the same thing as 

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like you were in that waiting 
season. 

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I've been in this waiting season
for like 2 years. 

446
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,520
But like I've been so content. 
Like I have been so happy for 

447
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,120
those around me. 
Just like you said, like 

448
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,640
sometimes you get a little upset
because you're like man, like 

449
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,920
that, like our kids for me and 
you like we've talked about 

450
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:08,160
having kids and I'm like, well, 
your kids going to growled, you 

451
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,880
know, but now I'm like I could 
be adopting a child. 

452
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,280
That's literally something 
Joe's. 

453
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,720
Age. 
You know what? 

454
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,360
God's planning. 
You really don't. 

455
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:17,720
You're just at peace about it. 
Yeah. 

456
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,320
Like I have been just so at 
peace. 

457
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,640
And so now do I know what this 
next chapter looks like? 

458
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,160
I have an idea. 
God does say that I'm going to 

459
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,480
adopt A child and I'm going to 
do all this stuff. 

460
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,760
So like I'm moving in peace 
again. 

461
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:38,360
Like I'm truly fine with his 
timeline not being mine because 

462
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:42,160
I've seen what all he does When 
it's a no or it's a wait. 

463
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,640
I see the fruit from waiting. 
Well, I think it's this too. 

464
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,480
All right, Our soul, and you'll 
know what I'm saying, our soul 

465
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,360
desires nothing more than to be 
full of His spirit, right? 

466
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:59,240
And to be full of Him. 
And when we are getting that and

467
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,080
we're full of Him, we feel so 
blessed no matter what because 

468
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,200
we know we are with him, we're 
sitting with him. 

469
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,280
We have him forever, right? 
Eternity. 

470
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,880
And that's just our soul's 
desire. 

471
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:17,480
So when you're full of that, 
you're like, everything else is 

472
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,440
going to be good. 
He's got this, we're good. 

473
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:25,400
You know, hey, no matter what, 
if I have his spirit in me and I

474
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:30,440
feel more full than I've ever 
felt in my life and better than 

475
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,560
I've ever felt in my life, I 
feel like I could go run a 

476
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,680
marathon right now. 
I feel like I could jump on top 

477
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,240
of a mountain right now. 
Like when he you are full of him

478
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,240
because that's literally the 
only thing your soul desires. 

479
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,520
All of like what you're saying, 
everything else, the child, the 

480
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,280
adoption, you're just like, Oh 
yeah, we're good. 

481
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,560
We got he's got it. 
We're good. 

482
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,920
I'm good over here. 
This is like a left turn. 

483
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,080
But I've also realized life 
ain't as serious as I've been 

484
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,800
making it. 
You know what I'm saying? 

485
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440
Like I'm just, I'm just out here
living. 

486
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,840
Yeah, I just want to do the 
Lord's work and like those 

487
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,640
little inconveniences, life and 
stuff like that. 

488
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,240
I'm like, forget about it. 
Just forget about it. 

489
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,600
Because I just realized that 
when I truly am in line with God

490
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,720
and I'm seeking Him and I'm 
trying to live in His will and 

491
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,160
just try to have Him lead and 
guide me and be my line leader, 

492
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:25,160
it ain't that serious. 
He Yeah, my my little puny asked

493
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,560
of Lord, I just want a child. 
He's like, girl, do you know 

494
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,760
what else I got going on, you 
know? 

495
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,560
Like yes there. 
Are some heavy stuff in this 

496
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,800
girl. 
There are some people that need 

497
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,120
my world that need my word, that
need my spirit in them. 

498
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:44,400
There are some evil things. 
There are some things happening 

499
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,240
to children that we need to be 
praying about. 

500
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,000
There are things going on in 
this world that we need revival 

501
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320
in this world. 
Do you know what's really going 

502
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080
on? 
And it makes me feel like my ask

503
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,680
is so small, like Lord, I'm, I'm
in the wrong line. 

504
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,440
I'm in the wrong lane. 
Like I need to be in the lane of

505
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,640
bringing more people to you or I
need to be in the lane of 

506
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,480
helping, you know, the darkness 
of this world and and seeing 

507
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,800
your name more and seeing you 
more. 

508
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,680
And those are what that's what 
really matters because when you 

509
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,760
have the the mindset of we're 
going to inherit the Kingdom of 

510
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,760
heaven one day and be face to 
face with God one day and you 

511
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,240
have that and you hold on to 
that and you really know that is

512
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,240
true in your life. 
That little ask of the baby or 

513
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,560
whatever it is, nothing compared
to knowing you're going to see 

514
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,760
his face one day and I'm saying 
his plan for your life. 

515
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,640
And to me, that's that's all 
that matters. 

516
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,360
Well, go like saying that and 
you're saying no in the plan and

517
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:46,520
stuff. 
That's why I kind of went to say

518
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,400
my story about this is because 
when you seek God wholeheartedly

519
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,760
and you truly are trying to get 
in line with him and like you're

520
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,360
focusing on that and you're 
asking him, he will show you the

521
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,440
steps. 
Now is it going to be as quick 

522
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,600
as you know, you know, the next 
day? 

523
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,320
Because I mean, now listen, I 
did pray that for a long time, 

524
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,360
like I have been praying that, 
but I specifically had wrote it 

525
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:15,120
down and like was looking and 
like in there in my notebook. 

526
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,400
I'm just saying like God, I'm 
ready to know what's next. 

527
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,760
I haven't asked in two years. 
I have just been trying to be 

528
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,000
faithful to you in this life 
that you've given me. 

529
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,400
But like I encourage you, if 
you're going through that 

530
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,040
season, you know, and just 
trying to figure out what God 

531
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,920
has for you. 
What's that next step? 

532
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,160
Ask him because. 
People and ask on for gold and 

533
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,800
and. 
But you got to seek diligently. 

534
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Like you can't just ask and like
not read your Bible or like or 

535
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240
not look for the signs like 
God's on a wavelength that we 

536
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,360
need to get on. 
So if you want to hear from him,

537
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,720
you need to get in line with 
Him. 

538
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,080
And so I would say be bold, ask,
look for, look for what he's 

539
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400
trying to say to you. 
Look for that plan so. 

540
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,200
Yeah, and mine came a little bit
different. 

541
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,400
You know, there's been things in
my life where he's shown me more

542
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,440
directly, like what he did for 
you. 

543
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,760
Now, in this situation, in 
season, in my life, I didn't get

544
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,280
a direct answer. 
I got an indirect answer. 

545
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,680
And sometimes we get those too. 
But it still helped to my 

546
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,520
mindset be where it needed to 
be. 

547
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,720
And I did get another indirect 
answer. 

548
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,680
And this hit me so hard and I 
hope that I can explain it in a 

549
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,720
way where it makes sense. 
But it was. 

550
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240
And I had to ask myself this, 
what is my spiritual condition? 

551
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,760
Where is that at? 
And I looked at Matthew and the 

552
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,400
Beatitudes and I'm going to read
the verse. 

553
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,000
It's Blessed are the poor in 
spirit, for theirs is the 

554
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,000
Kingdom of heaven. 
Blessed are those who mourn, for

555
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,440
they will be comforted. 
Blessed are those who hunger and

556
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,240
thirst for righteousness, 
righteousness. 

557
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,240
So when we read that and you 
read blessed are the poor in 

558
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,480
spirit. 
All of my life I've always 

559
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,720
talked about they're so blessed 
they had a child, they're so 

560
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,000
blessed they bought a house or 
they're they can afford a house 

561
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,120
and their children are doing XYZ
and man, God's pouring blessings

562
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,440
on them. 
Boy, did he change my mindset on

563
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,920
what a blessing truly is from 
this verse. 

564
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:24,400
And now I see it that those who 
recognize putting down their 

565
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,240
free will for their life and 
realizing what their spirit 

566
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,320
truly needs. 
And that's only him, that's 

567
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240
who's blessed. 
Yeah, that's the person who's 

568
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,360
really living that blessed out 
life, not the person that's 

569
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,160
getting all of these earthly 
things. 

570
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760
And I used to look at it so 
differently, or I used to be 

571
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,200
like, Oh my gosh, I feel so 
blessed. 

572
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,600
I mean, how many times have we 
said that? 

573
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,360
And I still will. 
It's not like I'm saying it's 

574
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,240
not a blessing. 
Oh my gosh, you know, you're so 

575
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,800
blessed the Lord provided this 
for you because I mean, it still

576
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,520
is a blessing. 
But that true blessed are those 

577
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,640
that's poor in spirit because 
they're going to inherit the 

578
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,880
Kingdom of heaven. 
Like that's a totally different 

579
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,360
mindset. 
Well, the brokenness, we need to

580
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400
be broken, because when life's 
going, great. 

581
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,480
I'm so glad you just said that 
we. 

582
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,880
Ain't calling on God like we are
when we're broken. 

583
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,080
That's just like straight up, 
like if life's going too good, 

584
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,720
you know, and you're not calling
on him and you're not dependent 

585
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,200
on him. 
Like why? 

586
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,880
You know, like, and I think 
blessings come when we're 

587
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,280
broken. 
But I think there's been a 

588
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,960
misconception of you're poor in 
spirit or you're broken. 

589
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,120
OK, because I'm so glad you just
brought this up because I'm 

590
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,520
reading the best book. 
Ever Kristen, if you're 

591
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,920
listening, she's added another 
book to the list. 

592
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,000
And have you finished one of 
them girl? 

593
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,480
Yes. 
OK, good. 

594
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440
OK, Yes, OK. 
There's only been like one that 

595
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,160
I couldn't. 
Right now I got four in a 

596
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,640
rotation. 
You have 4 books. 

597
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,600
In a rotation I can't finish one
of them. 

598
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Dang, that's that's pretty 
impressive, though I don't read 

599
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,520
all four. 
Of them they all make they all 

600
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,800
go together, OK. 
All right, let's let me kind of 

601
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,520
explain like what I'm saying and
learning from this book about 

602
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,120
brokenness. 
I used to think brokenness. 

603
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080
I tied it to the emotion of 
being sad. 

604
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,960
I that's only, I was thinking if
somebody's broken, they're 

605
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,720
crying, they're weeping, they're
sad. 

606
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,600
And, and what God has shown me 
through this is you can be 

607
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,840
crying and sad and upset and 
have that emotion, but not be 

608
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,480
broken of your will in handing 
that over to God. 

609
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,200
You can completely surrender 
your will and your life to God 

610
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,600
and not be crying. 
And that's true brokenness. 

611
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,680
When you go, I don't want my 
life anymore, I don't want the 

612
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,880
will of my life, I don't control
it anymore. 

613
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,760
I'm surrendering it to you. 
And I know we've talked about 

614
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,600
this before and I brought up the
horse analogy, but it is very 

615
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,520
true. 
When that horse completely 

616
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,360
surrenders his direction and 
it's you're the one controlling 

617
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,040
that direction. 
That is true brokenness. 

618
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,360
That is true. 
I'm broken to everything in my 

619
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,240
life and it's yours and that and
you don't have to be crying and 

620
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,080
sad and set to be broken. 
It is just that true surrender. 

621
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,240
That's true brokenness. 
We talked about that at Life 

622
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,200
Group A few weeks ago. 
When it's like you get tired of 

623
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,200
being sick and tired and then 
you, you run to God because 

624
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,600
you're like, I've tried 
everything myself and like, how 

625
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,720
long are you going to continue 
to keep trying before you're 

626
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,440
like, OK, I'm ready. 
Like, are you going to keep on 

627
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,400
like, like that horse, like just
keep on bucking and keep on 

628
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,600
doing what you do? 
Are you finally going to be 

629
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,440
like, look, I've done enough. 
Like I'm tired of living this 

630
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,680
life. 
I'm tired of living the stress 

631
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:47,440
and just grief all the time and 
just being broken in a whole 

632
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,280
different way. 
Like you just don't feel life 

633
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,120
fulfilling. 
You don't feel like you have a 

634
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,280
purpose. 
You don't have all these things.

635
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,040
Run to God. 
Yeah, and and really that 

636
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,440
brokenness principle is a 
thread, if you look at it all 

637
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,520
throughout the Bible, like it 
through all the disciples, 

638
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,639
everyone we've read about, Luke,
Paul, all of them. 

639
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,800
I mean, it's that brokenness 
thread and it's not even just 

640
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:17,040
broken in, in that they were 
hurting or just sad or going 

641
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080
through pain. 
It was that brokenness that they

642
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,080
did left everything behind and 
followed him. 

643
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,120
That was their brokenness. 
And I wrote, you know, it's the 

644
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:32,080
only way really that brokenness,
that surrendering is the only 

645
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,120
way that you and I can truly be 
close to a holy God. 

646
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,560
It really is the only calling 
that or thing that we can do. 

647
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,760
So I'm really grudge you brought
up that point so I could kind of

648
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,480
talk about what he's got on my 
heart. 

649
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,360
Well, I guess, I mean, we've 
been doing pretty good. 

650
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,719
You got some other stuff in 
there you want to talk about. 

651
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:54,840
I like some little notes. 
Yeah, well, I mean, I just, 

652
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840
there were so much. 
There was so much. 

653
00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,560
My mindset shifted in this 
season and it was so cool to see

654
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,280
God doing that, even though it 
was hurting so bad. 

655
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,320
He was doing so much inside of 
my mind, in my spirit. 

656
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,080
I really think it's more my 
spirit. 

657
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120
And it was like a challenge to 
have a whole new way of 

658
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,400
thinking. 
Like I put it so 

659
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,080
counterintuitive to the world, 
what he was putting on my heart 

660
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,840
and putting on my mind. 
Everything that we've talked 

661
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,240
about today is so 
counterintuitive to what the 

662
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,600
world would say. 
Like, yeah. 

663
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,960
Oh, you know, God's going to, 
you know, bless you when your 

664
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,840
time is right. 
Well, maybe he's not. 

665
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,520
Yeah, Oh. 
Maybe he's not. 

666
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Maybe he just wants you to want 
him the most. 

667
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:46,160
Maybe he's not. 
So let's just, let's keep him #1

668
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,160
no matter what. 
And I want really to completely 

669
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,560
change your way of thinking 
about this situation. 

670
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,920
Like, whatever the world might 
tell you, that's not what I'm 

671
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,600
telling you. 
And it was like, you know, 

672
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,400
everything that you could think 
of that's opposite death 

673
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,320
bringing you life pain. 
Bringing your life. 

674
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,440
I literally wore that hat today,
girl. 

675
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,640
I have a hat that literally says
Kingdom upside down. 

676
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000
And I have people ask me all the
time. 

677
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,800
They're like, what does that hat
mean? 

678
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,320
And I'm like, everything that 
you think the world is telling 

679
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,240
you is the exact opposite 
Kingdom. 

680
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,040
Like it's the exact opposite of 
what you would think the Kingdom

681
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,720
would be like. 
You have to die to live. 

682
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Yeah, so I wrote that you have 
to death bringing you life 

683
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,200
brokenness, what we're talking 
about bringing you complete 

684
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,280
wholeness, everything counter 
intuitive to this world. 

685
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,400
He shifted my mindset on. 
And so now I'm thankful for 

686
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,920
looking back and like, yes, it's
it. 

687
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
It was hard like and you know, 
let's just be transparent. 

688
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:53,240
There were times when the devil 
came after me so much so that I 

689
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,720
think we were in church one day 
and I'll never forget this. 

690
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:57,880
I think Pat came up to me. 
He said, are you OK? 

691
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,560
I'm like just out of nowhere. 
And I'm like, yeah, you know, I 

692
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,520
almost couldn't hide it, but and
I did then I kind of was like, 

693
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,800
no, no, I'm not. 
Just pray for me. 

694
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,440
Like the devil is in my mind. 
That's all. 

695
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,040
I said the devil's in my mind 
because he literally was at a 

696
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,160
point time he was telling me 
things like, you know, well, if 

697
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,200
you can't give Dexter another 
child, you know, Dexter might 

698
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,480
want to find somebody else or 
what you did to somebody might 

699
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,360
come back in and get you. 
And there were just things going

700
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,880
on in my mind that were constant
battle. 

701
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,240
And so I had to battle it harder
by doing all of this. 

702
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,000
You know, I had to wake up and 
then just be like, Nope, not 

703
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,800
today. 
Like this is what's true in 

704
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,920
whole. 
And it's everything opposite of 

705
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,840
what's really in my mind and 
opposite of what the world is 

706
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,520
telling me. 
So I don't want to focus on what

707
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,760
he's telling me. 
Yeah, I'm, I'm really glad that 

708
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,800
we did this episode because when
we were talking about the other 

709
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,400
day, you like wanted to preface.
You were like, I just, I know 

710
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,920
that people have had such a 
longer waiting period or they've

711
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,680
had it so much harder than me 
and stuff like that. 

712
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,560
And it's like, OK, you humble 
queen. 

713
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:12,440
But also, but also like we do 
want to preface, like just 

714
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,520
because it looks like this 
doesn't mean it looks like this 

715
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,280
for everybody. 
And we know that. 

716
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,120
And we're like, we really want 
to be sensitive to this topic 

717
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,200
because there are so many people
that have been trying for years 

718
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,760
and years and years. 
Like I remember Heather saying 

719
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,360
like, or maybe it was Heather. 
Yeah, there was they like tried 

720
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,960
for years and years. 
Like it was like 1215 years and 

721
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,400
so like, you know, we know that 
this is a very heavy topic for 

722
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,400
many people. 
So and I don't have the best 

723
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,520
personality when it comes to 
heavy topics. 

724
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,080
Like I do make light of a lot 
and I'm really sorry. 

725
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,680
So I hope I've done a good job 
today. 

726
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,400
Really good, OK. 
It feels heavy to talk about 

727
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,840
this when I know there's so many
other suffering and, and that's 

728
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,920
why when we're talking about 
grief and joy coexisting and in 

729
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,440
me praying for those that are 
being, you know, they're having 

730
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,000
that successfulness and 
pregnancy and that's happening 

731
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,840
in their life and really being 
joyful for them. 

732
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,640
And I'm still praying for those 
that aren't right and still 

733
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,920
praying for the Lord to bring 
them that comfort and peace and 

734
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,960
fill them with their spirit more
than they've ever had and then 

735
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,000
lean on him more than they ever 
have leaned on him during those 

736
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,720
seasons. 
And do a work in their family's 

737
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,240
life like I pray strongly for 
that. 

738
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:28,280
So I don't want anyone to ever 
feel like what we're saying 

739
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,680
today that our hearts don't go 
out to you and our hearts aren't

740
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,160
praying for you because mine is.
I know I've been there. 

741
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,240
I've been in that season I 
struggled. 

742
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,760
I'm praying for you, Lord, 
please hear their prayers. 

743
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,200
Lord, please do a work in their 
life like I am coming after a 

744
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,000
strong stronger than I ever have
before because I went through 

745
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,080
it. 
And so don't feel like you are 

746
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040
alone and don't feel like, you 
know, you're pain and stuff 

747
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,240
doesn't matter or nobody hears 
it because you know, we do. 

748
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,600
And and he put that on my heart.
I do hear it. 

749
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,960
I'm praying, you know, 
ferociously every day about it. 

750
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,600
So I'm glad you brought that 
part up about it. 

751
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200
Do you got anything else before 
we close, girl? 

752
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,040
I don't think so. 
I think we've hit a good bit of 

753
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,800
it. 
I think this was really good. 

754
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,920
I really enjoyed this episode. 
All right, guys. 

755
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Well, I love when you say you've
enjoyed the episode, like you 

756
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,360
remember or, you know, 
everything that we talked about.

757
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,320
And it's so funny because when I
leave here, I'm like, I don't 

758
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,600
remember one word that I said or
yeah. 

759
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,160
Most of the time I don't 
actually. 

760
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,960
I recorded on Wednesday, like 
I've already said, and there was

761
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,200
one line that just keeps running
back over and over in my head. 

762
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,240
And I literally had to make a 
note of it in the files that I 

763
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,200
sent to Isaiah. 
And I'm like and you can leave 

764
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,280
this in there I don't care. 
But I'm literally like if this 

765
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,280
doesn't sound right please take 
it out because I don't know how 

766
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,000
I worded something and can't 
Remember Me alive. 

767
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,760
So I get what you're saying. 
I did enjoy this episode as I'm 

768
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,640
sitting in it and I'm dwelling 
in it right now. 

769
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,120
But later on when I leave I'm be
like I can't remember. 

770
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,680
Yeah, it's been, it's been nice 
to talk about. 

771
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,160
Yeah, it has. 
I feel like the Lord has said 

772
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,920
some good things that someone I 
hope hears and they feel sane 

773
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,400
and they feel like they're 
prayed for. 

774
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,840
Absolutely 100. 
All right guys, Well, thank you 

775
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,120
so much for tuning in today. 
Make sure you like rate comment,

776
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,040
just, you know, shout it out. 
We absolutely love seeing it all

777
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,360
over social media and you just 
rating us. 

778
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,120
It's just been awesome to watch 
and to grow with each and 

779
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,440
everyone of you. 
So stay tuned, stay blessed, and

780
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,760
we'll see you guys later. 
Bye.

