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What's up guys? 
My name is Alexis. 

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And I'm Abby, and we're your. 
Host with praises in the pod. 

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Y'all, I'm not even. 
I say this every time, but this 

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time we have not recorded in a 
long time. 

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We really have not recorded. 
I personally haven't even 

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recorded in two weeks. 
Something off fresh. 

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I know it's been a while, so we 
don't really know where all 

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we're going. 
We have a few ideas, very few, 

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very few, but we're just going 
to let the Holy Spirit lead it. 

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He always does, always does. 
And so we're going to start off 

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in prayer and then we're going 
to jump right in. 

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So here we go. 
Lord, Heavenly Father, just 

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thank you for today. 
Thank you for all of your many 

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blessings, dear God, that you 
just continue to pour out every 

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single day. 
Lord God, we just pray that you 

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just lead us and guide us in our
lives that we don't get ahead of

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you. 
We we stay in step with the Holy

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Spirit and we just know what 
you're calling us to do when 

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you're calling us to do it. 
And when you're calling us to 

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talk about certain things, we 
pray that you just go before us 

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and make these doors open. 
Or if they need to be shut, you 

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go on and shut them. 
Lord God, we know that you have 

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good plans over our lives and 
you are going to provide in 

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every way possible that we need,
Lord, and we just thank you and 

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praise you for that. 
We pray that you speak to us and

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through us and let this episode 
glorify you in Jesus. 

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I pray Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen. 
So on the way home from the 

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beach the other day, I did like 
AQ and a not AQ and a it was 

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like one of those ask a question
type things on a story where you

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slide up and you just got back 
on Instagram you just so I'll 

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fill you in. 
OK, so you can take a picture 

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and then you put a little thing 
on there and it says ask me a 

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question. 
And so like, I opened it up 

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where people could ask me a 
question for the ride home. 

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Got right. 
And so one girl wrote wrote in 

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and was like, have you ever did 
an episode really talking about 

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restoration in your marriage and
what that looked like? 

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And then it really did make me 
start thinking like, we really 

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didn't you have one. 
The only place I could have 

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talked about it, you know, was 
with you. 

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Like, I talked about it in the 
beautifully answered prayer 

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where we talked about great 
salvation, but that was fresh. 

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Like, that was a week after he 
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had barely been any restoration 
at that time, You know, like, we

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was still trying to fight for 
his life, right? 

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And then I've talked about it 
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part, I was like, I haven't 
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And then when I was thinking 
about, you know, you, you have 

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been divorced and stuff like 
that. 

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And so we can kind of talk to 
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coin, you know, and hit a lot of
different women talking about, 

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you know, for you anyways, you 
can be like, look at what God 

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has done through it, you know. 
Restoration in both 

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perspectives. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, in a different

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way. 
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So anyway, let's talk about you.
Nope, we're going to start off 

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with you this time. 
Well, I thought it was about 

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your. 
Marriage I. 

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Thought it would be good if you 
talk about it too. 

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But yeah, I will say like just 
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I guess let's kind of start 
with, you know, you, you came to

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know Christ 2 year and it took 
about two years until Greg 

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surrendered to Christ, correct. 
And in that time, you know, you 

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can kind of touch on that time 
frame of the valley you guys 

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went through during that two 
year and then kind of how he 

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restored it to where it is and 
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Well, you know, I don't want to 
tell too much because y'all can 

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go by the book. 
Suddenly God restored our 

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marriage. 
No, but that really does talk 

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about all the hurts, the habits,
the hang ups, everything that we

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went through a lot. 
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Like I y'all this is going to 
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OK? 
I hated him and he hated me and 

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it was very but not at first. 
No, I'm talking about in the 2. 

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Years in the two years in the 2.
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like radically changed. 
No, I'm not that. 

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We looked at each other before, 
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together before we did all this 
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wouldn't say we had a great 
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build it on anything except for 
partying and like go in and 

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being around people in XYZ. 
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and it's a radically different, 
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the spectrum. 
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Christ in every way possible and
he doesn't understand. 

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It almost freaked him out. 
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He's like, I don't understand, 
like, why are you being this 

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way? 
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to change so much? 
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not, you know, black and out 
getting drunk every day anymore.

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But like, really, like you got 
to get rid of you got what? 

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Like it didn't make sense until 
the point where like we had 

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nothing in common anymore, like 
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where we argued every single day
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And I hated coming home. 
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because I couldn't talk about 
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I couldn't talk about what I was
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didn't want to hear it. 
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You know, and this is so good to
talk about or for people to hear

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because you think, OK, I'm come 
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I give him my life, I surrender 
everything to him and now it's 

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easy from there on out. 
And it only it got. 

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Harder, no doubt. 
For you guys, it didn't get 

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easier, no like. 
When I think back into that time

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period, I really did have the 
joy of the Lord, though, because

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I was so close to the Lord. 
I was the closest I've ever been

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to him and I loved life, but I 
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It was so wish you all like it 
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I was outside and things are 
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I love life. 
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like, Oh my gosh, like how is 
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my life? 
Obviously he isn't listening to 

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me because I've already 
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I don't drink no more. 
I don't smoke, I don't cuss. 

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I don't listen to this. 
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And I kept thinking of all the 
things that he already delivered

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me from. 
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delivering me from this unequal 
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Why are you not delivering me 
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understand the life that I want 
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And so it was really hard. 
I mean that was 2 years. 

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I wrote this in a message 
actually because I'm about to go

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to Kentucky. 
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had already went to Kentucky. 
But my message was talking about

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how two years we say that and 
it's just like 2 years and a 

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snapping fingers like it's just 
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Two years is a long time when 
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On a day to. 
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day out, it's a long two years. 
And so many times like I'll say,

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Oh yeah, you know, I went 
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always under play it too. 
Like because to me I'm like, 

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there's women out there that are
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than me. 
And it sounds so minuscule 

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compared to their grief. 
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women, we always do try to 
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how much something is hurting us
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doing in my life. 
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downplaying how bad I was. 
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'cause it's so true that the 
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hearted. 
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hurting that bad, he feels so 
far away, but in reality he's 

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never been closer. 
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other side. 
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situation, you know, starting 
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now. 
My first marriage, like yours, 

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started off just with no 
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Not only no foundation very 
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I was 17 when we started dating 
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So you, you don't, you don't 
know anything about life at that

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point, even though you think you
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think you're ready to be out on 
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You think you're ready to 
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own house, like you think you're
ready for it all and you truly 

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are not. 
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truly was not ready for that 
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And that's, you know, kind of it
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It went, we got serious very 
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We got married at a very young 

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age on no foundation of Christ 
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It was drinking, partying, 
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our sinful desires. 
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And it was all about myself, 
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What makes me happy, what brings
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He's not doing. 
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He's not doing, you know what I 
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I'm trying to control the 
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never feeling fulfilled and, and
I don't think in either 

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situation in the beginning of 
yours and Greg's relationship in

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the beginning of my first 
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found true fulfillment. 
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they could have been. 
It was we were living without 

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Christ in the center of it. 
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at it, when I think about back 
then, right, we were always with

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other people, like including 
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you know, like we weren't even 
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we weren't really necessarily 
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I know for me, it's especially 
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around other people. 
We never were really by 

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ourselves. 
We just hung out with people 

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constantly, you know, And so 
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and I'm like, me and Greg spend 
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know, and we didn't used to do 
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Like we always used to fill it 
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And now we're unless like we're 
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Crossing to just be together 
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But I guess relating this to the
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last really the last week or so,
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The Bible is almost like a love 
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It's a restorative love story 
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Yeah. 
I mean, he truly wants to 

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restore his relationship with us
from when it was broken in the 

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very beginning, from the very 
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And I, I see that in so many of 
our relationships that we had, 

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especially like my first 
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marriage. 
But just having that, how much 

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he has restored in my life 
personally and how much he can. 

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And I hope that that's what 
somebody takes from this, how 

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much he can restore their life, 
no matter how hopeless they 

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feel. 
And if they feel they've messed 

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up or their marriages, you know,
it's didn't start off on the 

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right foundation. 
Ours didn't now look at you 

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know, the restoration that God 
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I love the verse about he'll 
restore you tenfold with the 

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locus of stolen. 
But it's, it's amazing to me to 

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really see the and look at the 
Bible as a love story between US

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and God and him truly wanting to
restore that relationship and 

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just knowing that it's possible 
with every relationship that we 

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have or, or what we've done 
wrong in our life is is it's 

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hopeful. 
I mean, it's encouraging. 

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Yeah, when we're talking about 
this, because, like for my end 

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of the story and then yours too,
Genesis 5020. 

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And it says what the enemy meant
for evil, right? 

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Like, that's not what it says. 
It says what you meant for evil.

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The Lord will use for good the 
saving of many lives. 

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And truly, if we wouldn't have 
walked that path that we did, we

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wouldn't be dependent on the 
Lord like we are today because 

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we experienced him and 
encountered his. 

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We saw his grace, we saw his 
mercy, we saw how he does want 

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to restore our lives, you know, 
and if we didn't walk through 

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that, we wouldn't be where we 
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I always think about that like 
really, I have been on this 

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Genesis 50 kick for 5020 quick 
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And it's because I've been 
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message and, or I'm doing 3 
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them is strictly about Genesis 
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And so like I'm just like, it 
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everything you walk through in 
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through and what even when it's 
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good. 
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when he says we, he works all 
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So there's so many seasons that 
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years of me and Greg literally 
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Yeah, I appreciate and I love my
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because of it. 
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let's just go, you know, dating 
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It was never, and maybe this is 
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never, obviously, it was never 
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There was just always something 
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but no, yeah, yeah. 
It just felt like something was 

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always missing. 
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because at that point in time we
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will fulfill us. 
Nothing will fulfill that 

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emptiness in you. 
But let's kind of talk about you

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had that feeling, but then you 
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Was there any aspect to your 
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that hope with you and Greg or 
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better in that two year period 
where or just kind of took a 

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spiral and went down the other 
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It never got better. 
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I will say that I talked about 
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every time I was in such a 
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I'm talking about I was fixing 
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started because I'm like, I 
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I would literally open up my 
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and he would just say like love 
your neighbor, submit all this 

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and listen, I'm still struggling
to submit things. 

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I don't We actually about to 
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but the whole thing is at the 
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better, but God would give me 
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have hope. 
I remember 1 morning, I don't 

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know what happened in my spirit.
I was listening to this the 

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song, I think it's by elevation 
and it's new thing coming and I 

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was in the seven brew line and 
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had this wave of peace over me 
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probably like literally going 
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just was like about to count 
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Like I was like, I'm just so 
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I'm done. 
I just, I don't understand how 

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God could literally want me to 
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marriage. 
Like I just don't understand it.

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song of God is going to use your
life and what you're doing if 

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you stay obedient and you stay 
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Greg's attention. 
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listening to the new thing 
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I just kept having this thing in
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coming, a new thing's coming, a 
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And it was Celebrate Recovery 
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And just because God gives you 
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Like that was an answer. 
I don't know how to explain it 

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because it wasn't audible. 
It wasn't anything. 

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But I just knew Greg was going 
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And that night was Celebrate 
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And when he didn't come to 
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basically lied. 
I was like, what are you talking

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about? 
You just told me this morning 

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that a new thing was coming. 
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or four months before he even 
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because like you think or you 
know, that God has told you 

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something in your spirit does 
not mean that it's got to happen

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right here, right now. 
Like, right, we want it on our 

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time. 
We want it on our time. 

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Yes. 
I thought it was about to happen

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that night at Celebrate 
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didn't happen for months later. 
And I think that's so important 

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to just know that like God is 
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He's going to give you hope 
along the way, but you do have 

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to be actively seeking him to 
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You have to know those things. 
Yes, I was pulling up about the 

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verse in Corinthians that came 
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Going through Corinthians girl. 
No, First Corinthians 716 OK, 

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but it talks about the your 
husband says, don't you wives 

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realize that your husband's 
might be saved because of you 

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And don't you husband realize 
that your wives might be saved 

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because of you? 
Each of you should continue to 

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live in whatever situation the 
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as you were when God first 
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This is my rule for all the 
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to see that come to fruition. 
I mean, I never heard that 

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before, and I've read the whole 
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I ain't never. 
You've never heard that verse? 

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Never heard of that. 
Came to mind when you were just 

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telling. 
Never heard. 

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When you said that, I'm like, 
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Like I've never heard that. 
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a wife, you have the ability to 
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Wow. 
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You saw that. 
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think I'm thankful for what 
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coming to Christ because it led 
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But there's no telling what 
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have stayed. 
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I didn't have Christ in my first
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deep in the world and I was so 
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failed. 
It never had the opportunity to 

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make it. 
And so I truly believe in my 

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heart, anyone who you know is 
living in a relationship that 

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neither one of them have Christ 
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neither one of them had that 
opportunity to bring their 

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spouse to Christ or they're both
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It is the enemy's, I believe Job
to tear those relationships 

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apart. 
I don't see how they would stand

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a chance living in the world. 
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wholeheartedly that's how my 
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I was 100% living in the world. 
We both were, were we didn't 

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have Christ at all in our lives 
to have a foundation to stand 

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on. 
We had nothing to stand on. 

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It was so easy for the enemy to 
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What's so funny is like, I even 
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dating, like I would have told 
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know, like I, yeah, of course I 
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There is a difference between 
just knowing who God is and 

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actually putting Jesus first in 
your life. 

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You know, like putting him first
in your life and being that 

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foundation. 
There is a true, true difference

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there because just because you 
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because maybe we did. 
Yeah. 

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You know, that's what I'm 
saying. 

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I didn't want to say it, but 
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Like, just because you go to 
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that Christ is the foundation of
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Yeah. 
Well, I thought that you were 

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going to talk about, you know, 
the scripture of if the 

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unbeliever wants to leave, like 
let them go, but thus the saved,

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the believer must stay put in 
their marriage. 

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And obviously that doesn't apply
to if you're being abused or 

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anything like that, like that. 
Let's go ahead and lay the 

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groundwork there. 
But in my case, God revealed 

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that to me multiple times when I
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like he's like, hold on to. 
That is a scripture that I kept 

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holding on to. 
I'm like, all right, Lord. 

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Like if he chooses to leave. 
Like. 

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What am I going to do? 
But you know, I've made that 

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comment to Jessica at the well. 
And I just, you know, I was 

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like, I stayed true to that. 
Like, you know, if the 

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unbeliever wants to leave, if 
Greg decides to leave me. 

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And towards the end, he had 
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And then one day he literally 
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Like I can't, I can't stand 
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And I think that's where I was 
kind of like, well. 

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Here we go. 
You know, like whatever. 

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And she was like, but that's not
exit door for you to make your 

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life or your make your husband's
life miserable to the point 

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where he wants to leave. 
You're still called to love him,

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you know, And I wasn't doing 
that well. 

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I was not loving him well or 
leading or being a godly wife at

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all. 
Yeah, I wrote that down about 

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the greatest commandment is love
God, love people or love others,

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right? 
Yeah, others, meaning our 

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husband, one of her greatest 
commandment is the one that God 

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has bonded us with. 
And if we can't even love him 

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and respect him the way that 
we're supposed to, how do we get

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that greatest commandment right 
in any aspect in our lives? 

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And how powerful the tongue is? 
That is something I've had to 

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work on and greatly over the 
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Christ is my tongue can be it 
can lash out very easily when 

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I'm frustrated especially or 
when I'm trying to control a 

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situation and just learning to 
be respectful still to my 

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husband and to who I'm with and 
loving him the way Christ would 

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love him. 
I mean because for me I. 

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That's something you you went 
through too. 

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I don't know those two years 
learning. 

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I didn't learn it then, I 
learned it after because I 

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cussed him out regularly and 
when I say cussed out, I might 

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have said a few cuss words along
the way because it was. 

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This is a Christian podcast and 
you. 

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Know what else it is? 
It's real, raw and relatable, 

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honey. 
And I probably did. 

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I cussed him out a few times and
then I was convicted about it 

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because I'm like, Lord, that 
didn't just show who you were. 

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That didn't just show how you 
have transformed my life. 

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And he would just work on me the
more and more as long as long as

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it went to the point where I 
really had to take a step back 

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and like acknowledge that like 
this. 

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Is not the other day what you're
talking about? 

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You know, we kept having to work
on something. 

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They asked me are we do we how 
did how did they say it? 

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Are we keep, do we keep getting 
a test and failing the test? 

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Because we're going to keep 
getting that same test until we 

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pass it. 
And it's like that situation. 

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It's like, here comes that test 
again, OK, how am I going to 

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react to this situation? 
Am I going to react like I 

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always do and fail that test 
because it's going to come 

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again. 
It's going to keep coming until 

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we finally pass it. 
Like a merry go round, just 

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round and round. 
It's going to keep on coming and

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that is something that I've had 
to learn in my marriage. 

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Now with Dexter is OK, here's a 
test. 

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Here's how I can react the Word 
with you at the front and 

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center, or with my fleshly or 
desires in my flesh in the in 

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the forefront. 
Well, I started realizing that 

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my tongue was so like, like 
what? 

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Harsh. 
Harsh. 

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Yeah, harsh because I was so 
hurt. 

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Like I reacted out of hurt and I
wanted to hurt Greg, like with 

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my voice, with my tongue, like 
he had hurt me because he wasn't

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living and like measuring up to 
the man that I needed him to be 

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and so. 
He. 

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Couldn't he couldn't do anything
right, you know, like he did 1 

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little thing and I'm I want to 
hurt him and say all these nasty

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things to him so that he would 
feel the way that I felt and 

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I'd. 
I really didn't. 

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You're really something to 
scripture, you know? 

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Yeah, there is. 
And it tells you how to be 

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respectful, respectful wife and 
loving wife. 

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And and we're like, hold on. 
Nope, I can't do that. 

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Nope. 
Because. 

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And the only reason I say that 
is where does that get us? 

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Yeah. 
When we treat them that way 

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without the respect, where does 
it get us? 

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Nowhere. 
And God knows that. 

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He knows what we need. 
He knows how we need to act. 

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He knows what's going to bring 
restoration to our 

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relationships. 
It's right there in his word. 

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It's just hard to do it. 
No doubt. 

447
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,680
And I know that was hard for you
and Greg in those two years. 

448
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Was there ever a point that you 
felt like you started to pass 

449
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:06,560
the test and I. 
Mean not maybe closer towards 

450
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,240
the litter. 
Yes. 

451
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,320
When I stopped talking. 
OK, Like litter. 

452
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,480
Yeah. 
I started passing it because I 

453
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,800
don't think it's scripture. 
I think this is just what our 

454
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,120
parents tell us. 
But you know, like, if you don't

455
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:21,400
have anything nice to say, don't
say it at all. 

456
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,440
I just stopped talking like 
genuinely and that wasn't great 

457
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,000
either. 
But you know, like I would come 

458
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,960
home and I don't got nothing to 
say. 

459
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,080
I would just if he was talking, 
I'll let it go in one out in ear

460
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,440
and out the other. 
And I just got to the point 

461
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,400
where it was every time I did 
talk, it was negative. 

462
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,800
So I was like to save my piece. 
I ain't got nothing really to 

463
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,240
say. 
And that's really hard to get to

464
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,240
a place when you live with 
someone, you're with someone a 

465
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,920
lot, you're with them all the 
time. 

466
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,000
And I just had nothing to say, 
you know. 

467
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,720
But I think towards the end of 
right before he came to Christ, 

468
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:08,480
like my heart did start shifting
a little bit because the moment 

469
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,840
that he got sick, it was like, 
and I acknowledged the sickness.

470
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,400
I started loving him in a whole 
different capacity. 

471
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,360
I started praying for him in a 
whole different capacity. 

472
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:22,520
Like the prey without ceasing. 
Wow. 

473
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,040
And I don't know, like I don't 
really know how to explain it. 

474
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,040
Like it was the moment that I 
realized that he was sick and 

475
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,200
that I could lose him. 
And that's when it scared me. 

476
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,440
And to the point where I started
praying non-stop over and over 

477
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,720
again. 
Like I remember being on my 

478
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,320
bathroom floor crying out with 
my face in the floor. 

479
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,720
And I'm like, save him, Lord, 
save him Lord, save him Lord. 

480
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,400
And then I started forcing him 
like get on your knees and pray,

481
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,480
pray like. 
So I wouldn't say that I even 

482
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:00,240
did anything right until he got 
sick, like not at all, you know.

483
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:06,120
And so I just like my heart for 
women in these situations is 

484
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,360
don't do the things that I do 
like, love him where you're at. 

485
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,920
Start praying for him without 
ceasing, right? 

486
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,280
That's when you felt in 
solitary. 

487
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:22,680
When I was like, OK, and when I 
truly did surrender it to the 

488
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,240
point where I'm like, Lord, I 
need you to do it because I 

489
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,960
can't do it. 
I can't do it anymore. 

490
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,360
I can't do it. 
I've been trying to talk to him 

491
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:32,880
about you. 
I've been trying to do this. 

492
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,920
I've been trying to do that. 
And nothing's worked. 

493
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840
Like, please, in the name of 
Jesus, I need you to move in a 

494
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,760
mighty way. 
And I mean that. 

495
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,720
That's when it really changed 
for me, right? 

496
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,520
OK. 
So he gets saved. 

497
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,480
Yes, that is when everything 
changed, right? 

498
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Yeah. 
So I will say the moment that I 

499
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,320
realized that we were in the 
hospital and that God was really

500
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,560
going to have to do like this 
miracle, right? 

501
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,800
Like we know that he can't have 
surgery. 

502
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,520
We know that he has to have 
surgery, but he can't because 

503
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,200
he'll die. 
That is when I knew that God was

504
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,120
moving and I knew that God was 
going to deliver him from this, 

505
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,480
right? 
Like I just had like this 

506
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,720
overwhelming peace, like he just
was there all along the way. 

507
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:28,920
And then I just started like 
actually just trying to be there

508
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,320
for him and talk to him and let 
him talk and actually do the 

509
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:37,760
little things, you know, because
we say this too, like sometimes 

510
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,000
people say, well, I used to be 
on fire for Christ. 

511
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,640
OK, think about your honeymoon 
face, right? 

512
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,400
Like you used to be so on fire 
for your husband. 

513
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,280
You loved your husband. 
You couldn't get close enough to

514
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320
him. 
And I, I've been saying this a 

515
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,840
lot, but grandma and grandpa had
this old truck with a bench seat

516
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,560
right when they rode together, 
when they went Uptown, Grandma 

517
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,760
was loved up on grandpa 
basically sitting on his lap, 

518
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,160
like they were right on top of 
each other, right? 

519
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,320
But then they had a kid and then
she kind of slid over and the 

520
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,920
kids sat between them and then 
another kid and they sat. 

521
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,640
And then like they start arguing
and she's like, I ain't sitting 

522
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,840
there. 
And then eventually she's like, 

523
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,760
why don't we sit together 
anymore? 

524
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,000
Like, why don't we sit together 
like we used to? 

525
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,280
And he's like, well, I ain't 
moved. 

526
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,560
He was always still in the 
driver's seat the whole entire 

527
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,120
time. 
And that's the same thing with 

528
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,560
our marriage, too. 
Like we're letting the world put

529
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,920
things in between our marriage. 
We're letting our phones, our 

530
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,920
social media, like all this 
stuff come in between our 

531
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,560
marriage and then eventually 
we're going to start drifting 

532
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,440
like you have to be intentional 
with your marriage just like you

533
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,960
are with your relationship with 
Christ. 

534
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Yeah, 100%. 
Like, if you're not trying to be

535
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,400
close to one another, eventually
that time's just going to pull 

536
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,120
you apart. 
You know you have to be 

537
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,080
intentional with your marriage 
and with Christ. 

538
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,040
Yeah, I just want to touch back 
on talking about praying for 

539
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,800
your husband. 
Yeah, when you really, it's 

540
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,160
almost like your heart truly. 
I mean, I'm sure you prayed for 

541
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,920
him during that time. 
No doubt your heart was 

542
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,840
connected in a different way 
when he was sick and and those 

543
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,960
prayers didn't feel as forced. 
It was truly from your heart. 

544
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,960
And so I remember when I got, I 
went through my divorce, not 

545
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,600
long after my divorce, I was 
still completely just living in 

546
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,680
darkness and I truly had no self
worth. 

547
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,560
And I could have sworn at that 
point in time in my life, I 

548
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,920
would never get married again, 
have a successful marriage. 

549
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,080
Anybody would ever look at me 
the same, anybody would ever 

550
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,000
love me the same. 
And I could just go on and on 

551
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,960
and on. 
But there was a point in time 

552
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:59,080
where and I didn't know who it 
was, I just started the Lord put

553
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,920
it on my heart to start. 
This was I got saved and really 

554
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,760
gave my heart to the Lord in 
2020 and started my 12 step 

555
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,400
class and started getting clean 
and not drinking, not partying 

556
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,600
and not doing everything. 
And that's when for some reason 

557
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,440
he just put it on my heart to 
start praying for my husband. 

558
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720
I didn't know who it was. 
I would get on my knees every 

559
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,000
night and just pray for my 
husband, my future husband, for 

560
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,400
me to be the wife that they need
to teach me. 

561
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Lord, teach me to be the 
Proverbs 31 woman that I know I 

562
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,000
can be. 
I know I've completely messed it

563
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,960
up before, but I know that you 
can restore what's going forward

564
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,600
in my life. 
And I truly started praying for 

565
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,760
my husband with this deep like 
reverend, like heart, like, I 

566
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,880
don't know how to explain it. 
And not long after that is when 

567
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,640
I met Dexter. 
And so I truly think there is 

568
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,640
something with praying for your 
husband if you were at a point 

569
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,400
where you haven't been praying 
for your husband. 

570
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,360
And I can speak for myself that 
I need to do better about it. 

571
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:10,360
And just truly praying for their
mind, praying for the weight 

572
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,200
that they carry on their 
shoulders every day. 

573
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,280
Praying that, you know, you help
build them up in ways that the 

574
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,400
Lord would want you to have them
built up. 

575
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,400
And helping them to become who 
they are supposed to be in 

576
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,400
Christ really and truly is what 
we're called to do. 

577
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,120
And in praying for them in that 
way really can make it has a 

578
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,600
huge impact. 
Yeah, when I'm thinking of like 

579
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,320
when you're talking about my 
posture changed with the prayer 

580
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,120
basically, or you were praying 
with the actual reverent heart 

581
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,720
or whatever. 
It felt like some of the times, 

582
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,640
like when I was praying for 
Greg, like I was just, it was 

583
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,360
very empty. 
Like I was just, I know I got to

584
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,320
pray for his salvation. 
I got to pray for his salvation.

585
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,120
So here I am. 
I'm praying for his salvation. 

586
00:33:54,560 --> 00:34:00,360
But when it changed, when my 
heart cried out and I knew, I 

587
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,200
knew without a shadow of a doubt
that God could do it. 

588
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,240
Like that's what was so 
different. 

589
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,719
And there's like the incense we 
talked about, let your incense 

590
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,880
rise. 
Like I was solely dependent on 

591
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:19,280
him where my incense like I was 
crying out to God and that was a

592
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,880
big turning point. 
Like, and I would say like the 

593
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,120
restoration part, like we really
haven't even really talked about

594
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,320
that, like right. 
But the biggest thing is like 

595
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,840
people thought that as soon as 
we he got saved, we came home 

596
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,040
from the hospital like 
everything was going to be 

597
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,520
great. 
You know, it wasn't because I 

598
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,480
had built a whole different 
life. 

599
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,480
Like I had been walking it out 
with Christ for two years now. 

600
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,880
I've done formed all these new 
friends that you barely even met

601
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,199
and like I have a whole 
different life. 

602
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:58,480
So when we tried to like mesh 
those, it was a learning 

603
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,640
experience. 
Right. 

604
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,600
So at that point in time, he 
started going to church with. 

605
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Yeah. 
Like he started going to CR 

606
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,400
immediately right off the RIP 
every Thursday. 

607
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,400
We, I think we've missed only 
because we were out of town, 

608
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,640
right? 
And then slowly but surely, like

609
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,920
I started seeing slow changes. 
Like he picks up his bottle now,

610
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,400
like he's reading, he wants to 
talk about it like he wants to 

611
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:27,040
come to church. 
And that's when I was like, OK, 

612
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,680
it doesn't all have to come 
together right now. 

613
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,560
That was the biggest part is 
like we think that just because 

614
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,280
that happened, everything's 
going to be great. 

615
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,960
He's going to be the spiritual 
leader of the home. 

616
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,720
Like he's going to do all these 
things and like he's having to 

617
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,640
grow and mature just like I had 
been doing it the past two 

618
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,240
years, but instead of those two 
year here, here, hang on, hang 

619
00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:52,560
on, hold, hang on, hang on those
two years I really grew my 

620
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,320
relationship with Christ. 
I had the foundation that I 

621
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:00,120
needed like I new scripture. 
I knew how to talk about it like

622
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,520
I was being discipled by people.
I was in these groups. 

623
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:07,160
I was doing these things and the
moment that he surrendered his 

624
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:13,320
life to Christ, I no longer felt
it wasn't about me growing my 

625
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:19,000
relationship with Christ, right?
Like I needed to nurture my 

626
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,440
marriage. 
Now. 

627
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,280
God didn't take come off the 
pedestal, you know what I'm 

628
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,720
saying? 
Like he's still up there. 

629
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,680
He's still #1 But I had done the
work. 

630
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,760
I had done the things that I had
to focus on myself. 

631
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,320
Where, OK, I've grown my 
relationship. 

632
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,400
I have a good foundation. 
I don't have to be in the church

633
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,160
every time the doors are open. 
I do I want to be, yes. 

634
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,800
But I do know that I got to put 
my marriage first and I got to 

635
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,480
start spending quality time. 
I've got to Start Stop going to 

636
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,000
the church every single time. 
They're doing every little fun. 

637
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,360
French became a yes. 
Just because I didn't want to be

638
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,720
at home. 
That is when it switched for me,

639
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,360
the moment that he gave his life
to Christ. 

640
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,040
And I realized that I should 
have been like that all along. 

641
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,200
Yeah, that's good. 
That's where I was trying to get

642
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,920
there. 
That's why I was like, hang on, 

643
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,200
how do I say this? 
I should have been doing that 

644
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,960
stuff all along. 
Yes, I was. 

645
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,360
I was investing in my 
relationship with Christ. 

646
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Yes, I was trying to get a 
foundation. 

647
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,040
Yes, I was doing all these 
things. 

648
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,120
But at the end of the day, I 
still should have brought my 

649
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,640
tried to make my husband more of
a priority. 

650
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,040
I should have been at home a 
little bit more. 

651
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,240
I should have been doing these 
things. 

652
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,160
But you live and you learn. 
You really you can't tell 

653
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,360
yourself nothing. 
When you're in it when you're. 

654
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,360
In it, you can't tell yourself 
nothing. 

655
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,760
People would tell me stuff like 
that all the time and I'm like, 

656
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,800
no, you don't understand, you 
don't understand. 

657
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,880
You ain't been in the house with
us. 

658
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,240
You ain't seen these knock down 
drag outs like what we got going

659
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:51,760
on so. 
But he is so good. 

660
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,520
It's like he knew how to, he 
knows how to get you there to, 

661
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,800
to where you are now and allows 
us to go through those trials 

662
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:06,240
and he's, he's molding you and 
forming you and growing you in 

663
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:08,240
those seasons to where you are 
now. 

664
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,600
For you to even realize that, 
you know, I should have had my 

665
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:17,680
marriage as a priority even in 
that difficulty then because God

666
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,280
was still at work, even though 
it felt like he wasn't, he was 

667
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,960
still at work. 
And that's what was going on 

668
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,160
before I met Dexter. 
It did not feel like he was 

669
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,120
there that anything was going to
come to fruition of my life with

670
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,840
marriage or kids or anything 
along those lines. 

671
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,520
But he was still working 
everything out in the 

672
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,280
background. 
And I think it's because there 

673
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,080
was a heart. 
Obviously, there was a heart 

674
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,880
change. 
Like my heart truly started 

675
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:50,120
crying out to him and just 
wanting him at that time and him

676
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,560
to lead my life. 
And that's when I met Dexter. 

677
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,640
But even though Dexter and I met
and we had a great foundation, 

678
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,080
everything was not easy. 
It was extremely difficult to. 

679
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,440
There was little things that we 
still held on to worldly 

680
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,040
desires. 
You know, we would still come 

681
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,880
hang out with you guys and 
throw. 

682
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:18,120
Us up in there, God don't cough 
in the mind now. 

683
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,520
No, but I didn't have, Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, we, we still, you 

684
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,520
know, wanted to go have fun with
our friends, but how do we do 

685
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,080
that and not, you know, and 
drink just a little bit, but 

686
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,680
then not drink on the weekends 
because we wanted to go to 

687
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,400
church and put Christ first. 
We were in this weird, you know,

688
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,720
it was this phase of 
sanctification and, and really 

689
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:43,960
trying to learn to give 
everything up, regardless of 

690
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,240
what that meant, regardless of, 
oh, wait, are we about to give 

691
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:49,640
up fun? 
Oh, wait, you know, who are we 

692
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,600
going to hang out with? 
Our parents? 

693
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,240
Like we're not going to have 
anybody to hang out with if 

694
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,120
we're not going and doing these 
things. 

695
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,040
And it was us, you know, trying 
to start a whole new life and, 

696
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,760
and wanting to put Christ first,
but still kind of. 

697
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,080
One foot in and that makes 
sense. 

698
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,040
No doubt. 
You're still trying to have your

699
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,480
cake and eat it too. 
Yes, we were for sure, Yeah. 

700
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,680
And so we went through a huge 
learning curve with that. 

701
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,560
And I will say, since we did 
just completely give everything 

702
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,920
to Christ, the restoration that 
we have in our marriage from 

703
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,480
anything that we had in the 
beginning that might have caused

704
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,000
her to one or another. 
Because we did carry some, I 

705
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,360
carried some baggage into the 
beginning of the relationship, 

706
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,600
into the beginning of the 
marriage as well as him. 

707
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,520
I mean, he had some stuff from 
his past that he brought over. 

708
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,800
He's a lot better of a human 
being than me. 

709
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,960
He's a good man, Elizabeth. 
Good man, Elizabeth. 

710
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,880
Hey, is that what he's the best?
But, you know, I had brought 

711
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,080
over some baggage that I was 
still working on and working 

712
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,560
through and we had to work 
through that together. 

713
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,640
But God has been so good to us. 
And, you know, just like with 

714
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,080
and, and it's not going to stop 
us working. 

715
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,280
It's just going on our marriage.
I mean, I'm just saying like 

716
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,640
everything to keep growing 
closer to one another. 

717
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,520
That's what I was going to say 
is like, as long as we're 

718
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,800
putting in the work, we're doing
these things, this is just like 

719
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,800
God still has good plans. 
We ain't just got this good plan

720
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,680
right here right now. 
And he's done working like he 

721
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,480
has continuously good plans for 
our lives. 

722
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,960
And like I truly have been 
saying that more recently, just 

723
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,480
the closer that me and Greg do 
get because we're still 

724
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,400
learning. 
Like it's been a year. 

725
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,120
Yes, it's been a year, but like,
we're still learning each other,

726
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,160
we're still figuring it out. 
We're still like, he's still 

727
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,520
newly fresh to his faith, you 
know, So like we're learning how

728
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,680
to have a equally yoked 
marriage. 

729
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,600
And I just know the longer that 
we walk this out, the the more 

730
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,240
that we do this with Christ, 
He's going to continue to bless 

731
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:00,280
and just have good plans over 
and over and over again. 

732
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:06,040
I guess is there something 
different in those moments where

733
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,280
now when things get heated or 
you know, an argument or 

734
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,960
something totally different 
practically that you could say 

735
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:18,240
y'all do versus but you know, 
prior to both of y'all, I'm 

736
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,320
going to be honest. 
Greg's always been a good man, 

737
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,640
OK? 
He really has always been a good

738
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,720
man. 
Like he does not like when I say

739
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,440
we was knocking a buck and he 
wasn't. 

740
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,080
I was. 
I was cussing him at spew. 

741
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,040
It's like talking to a wall 
because he doesn't respond in 

742
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,520
that way. 
Like he doesn't he's a very even

743
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,480
tempered. 
He is very he's a good man. 

744
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,240
He's a good man. 
He just didn't have the Lord and

745
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,080
you know, that is so that we 
could do a whole episode about 

746
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
how you can be a good person, 
but you still going to go to 

747
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,320
hell without the Lord. 
And so he was a good man, but he

748
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,760
just didn't have the Lord and so
he was unfulfilled. 

749
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,120
He was searching for the world 
and so he searched and found 

750
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:02,040
alcohol. 
And so when we get in these 

751
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,160
disagreements, which a lot of 
the times, like it's just me 

752
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,200
aggravated, you know, and I do 
take a different approach now 

753
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:16,680
because I see him with spiritual
eyes, like I see that he is 

754
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,480
God's child just like I am, I'm 
God's daughter, he's God's son. 

755
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,760
He's the like, why would I be 
negative and, and tear him down 

756
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,600
the way that I used to over 
something that it's just a 

757
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,440
miscommunication. 
It's just I'm I'll, I'm the one 

758
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,360
that overpacked my schedule. 
That ain't his fault, you know, 

759
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:37,320
or I'm trying to control 
something. 

760
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,560
So now I do take a second and 
and I try to re evaluate things 

761
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,160
like I'm like, is this a heel 
I'm really ready to die on? 

762
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,400
No, I'm not. 
And I really have gotten to that

763
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,120
in the past like 2 months, like,
and not even just in my 

764
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,960
marriage. 
I'm talking about all things in 

765
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,680
life. 
I think I really am letting go 

766
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,040
of some control issues, you 
know, like the Lord is really 

767
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,520
trying to work on me about that 
because I'm like, yeah, what's 

768
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,960
the bigger picture here? 
This a little micro second. 

769
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,720
Ain't nothing like why am I 
going to get bent out of shape 

770
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,080
about this one little second, 
you know? 

771
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,240
Or is. 
This something that. 

772
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:18,480
Battles really going to argue 
about now there are some things 

773
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,520
that I'm really going to argue 
about, but a lot of things now 

774
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:24,040
and I think that's got to do 
with age too. 

775
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,320
You know, you start your frontal
lobe because mine, mine didn't 

776
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:35,840
develop at 25 that alcohols and 
that drug and that party and 

777
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,400
stuff is is suspended it, it 
prolonged it for a little bit. 

778
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600
But now it's developed, right, 
Right. 

779
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,040
We start realizing I don't think
that's really worth the battle. 

780
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,480
No, I know you got to do with 
that, with kids and stuff. 

781
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,400
Girl, girl. 
At this point I just put Sutton.

782
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,280
Wear to church. 
I'll let's just walk around like

783
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:53,960
this. 
That. 

784
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,640
I can't had a little Princess 
dress on. 

785
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,800
I saw it in pictures Mary Beth 
sent me at church. 

786
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,920
So no more like a fairy tale 
dress or something. 

787
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,480
One of her costumes to to 
church. 

788
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:09,760
Oh, to church. 
Girl, I thought. 

789
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,680
It was a while ago. 
Well. 

790
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,760
You just said you know what? 
Yes, 100%. 

791
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,320
That morning, yes, she was bent 
on wearing her. 

792
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,800
It's like a sleep gown. 
It's her Princess sleep gown. 

793
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,400
It's not even like a drill 
Princess dress. 

794
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:33,480
I mean, it was her pajamas. 
Basically to church, she wanted 

795
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,080
to show. 
Her and I said OK, because it 

796
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,480
was about to be a knock down dry
out that morning. 

797
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,480
And I was like, of course you 
can wear that. 

798
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,360
You know what it actually is 
letting you be very creative. 

799
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,480
Yeah. 
So now I'm trying to learn to 

800
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,000
turn it into a positive. 
But isn't it so funny how like 

801
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,320
before you have kids, like 
because you know, I still ain't 

802
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,400
got them. 
So I'm like, but before you have

803
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,400
kids, you're like, we're going 
to look so cute. 

804
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,880
We're going to have them bozo. 
We're going to be doing this and

805
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,400
then they don't go to chip 
pajamas. 

806
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,720
So we went to church this past 
Easter and you know I had the 

807
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:13,600
cutest little outfit for my 3 
month old Lily and I had 

808
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,080
something in her dress that she 
had picked out and I was like Oh

809
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,560
my goodness they are going to 
look so beautiful. 

810
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:26,120
And Mama was done up, too. 
And I was, I had my dress on and

811
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,600
middle of the service Lily, in 
all her just comfortable glory, 

812
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,560
decided to just blow it out in 
the middle of church, in the 

813
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,920
dead of quiet. 
You could hear it. 

814
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,880
And I was like, oh, my word, 
we've got to go get up. 

815
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,680
Like my mom's holding her. 
And I'm like, we got to, you 

816
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,520
know, get up and go change her. 
Oh, yeah. 

817
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,000
So it gets worse from there. 
Gets everywhere. 

818
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,440
All over her clothes, all over 
her outfit. 

819
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,720
Mind you, we hadn't taken a 
picture or nothing yet. 

820
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,760
She will wear that outfit for 
just a few more minutes. 

821
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,880
I thought I'm saying because it 
was just a little bit on the 

822
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,800
shorts and then Nope it she kept
going after we were trying to 

823
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,880
change the diaper. 
It went everywhere, got on 

824
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,600
everything and I'm like why? 
To. 

825
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:18,640
Put myself through all of this 
to, you know, why, like why put 

826
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,960
the stress on yourself? 
Why even why have the battle 

827
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,240
when that's just you know, and 
you go learn to laugh it off, 

828
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,280
which we did. 
It was funny, but that because 

829
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,240
that's not what life's about. 
You know that's not what? 

830
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,960
You're for, you know, just 
social media. 

831
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,160
Right. 
That is not what life is about. 

832
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,840
It is not. 
It is there because the true 

833
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:43,400
resurrection of Christ. 
Nothing we do, nothing about our

834
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,800
walk with Christ would have any 
meaning behind it if we truly 

835
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,920
didn't believe He got up and 
rose. 

836
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,040
But he is still living that He 
is alive right now. 

837
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,920
Nothing we're doing having a 
conversation right now would 

838
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,480
have any meaning behind it if 
that weren't true. 

839
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,920
And that's the only reason we 
were there at church. 

840
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,080
But we get so caught up in this 
world and everything about it 

841
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,080
that our focus gets off and 
girl. 

842
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,920
Y'all she just got hyped up. 
I'm you scared I. 

843
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,360
Just got hyped up the. 
Crazy eyes at me like there 

844
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,200
ain't. 
Nothing. 

845
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,080
Nothing. 
I mean, it is. 

846
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,440
I know. 
So yeah, you'd start realizing 

847
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,840
that or you get in the further 
you walk with Christ, what truly

848
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:29,040
matters and and things not to 
get caught up on and and hold 

849
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:33,040
you hostage to realizing how 
short life is and that this walk

850
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,560
with Christ is supposed to be so
joyful and joyous and and fun 

851
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,040
and lighthearted. 
And you know, we need to take 

852
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,400
that into our marriage. 
Yeah. 

853
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,800
That's good. 
We're going to there. 

854
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,960
Sorry guys. 
I hope you have enjoyed this as 

855
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,480
much as I have. 
If you take anything from this, 

856
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,840
don't do anything that I did 
prior, you know, live by the 

857
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,000
Spirit, let the Spirit lead and 
guide you and depend on Christ 

858
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,640
that that would be my bottom 
line. 

859
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:05,000
He's capable of restoring 
things, really, or really 

860
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,440
anything. 
Anything in marriage, any broken

861
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,360
relationship, any broken single 
woman out there he can restore. 

862
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,800
And can you give you back 
tenfold what you feel you've 

863
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,760
lost? 
Yes, and it's not on our time, 

864
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,800
it's on his. 
He's got a great, great plan. 

865
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,840
All right guys, I hope you have 
enjoyed this as much as we have.

866
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,720
We will see you next week. 
Stay tuned. 

867
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,400
Stay blessed and we'll see you 
guys. 

868
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,120
What next week? 
Bye bye.

