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What's up guys? 
My name is Alexis, your host of 

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Praises and the Pod, and I am so
excited to be here with Jesse 

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and Drew Graham. 
I went to middle school and high

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school with Drew and then I just
met Jesse this morning, but I've

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been following along. 
I've been following along for 

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some time now, but we're going 
to dive into their testimony and

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what God has done in their life.
And I'm just so excited for 

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y'all to hear this and myself, 
like I know it's going to be 

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very powerful. 
And I pray that it breaks change

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and just encourages you to get 
closer to Christ and just really

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dive into his word. 
So we're going to start off in 

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prayer and then we're going to 
jump right in. 

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So here we go. 
Lord Heavenly Father, just thank

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you for this morning. 
Thank you for who you are and 

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what you've done in our lives. 
Lord God, thank you for bringing

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us to this moment in time where 
we get to talk about your 

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goodness and your faithfulness 
and how you just had protection 

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and provision over our lives, 
Lord God to bring us here. 

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Lord, you ordained this years 
and years before we ever knew 

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that this was going to be a 
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Lord God, and we just pray that 
you use this in a mighty way. 

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We pray that the Holy Spirit 
speak through us, to us and let 

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this episode glorify you. 
In Jesus name I pray Amen. 

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Amen. 
Drew art. 

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I already prayed for us this 
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OK, so mine didn't feel like, 
but I know the Lord heard it 

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regardless, you know, but you 
woo have some authority in them.

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All right, so Jesse, let's get 
started with you. 

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OK, Tell us a little bit how you
were raised. 

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We're both going to start with 
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we'll work our way up. 
So how were you raised? 

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Kinda like were you raised in 
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childhood look like? 
So I actually was not raised in 

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church. 
It's funny because I am one out 

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of five siblings. 
So my parents, they brought my 

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oldest sister and myself here 
because we're originally from 

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Mexico. 
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It was my mom and my dad, right?
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maybe about a year later, my mom
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And so then after that, it was 
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of course, he was like a super 
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because he had to take care of 
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also still had back in Mexico. 
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childhood. 
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said, me and my oldest sister, 
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ourselves for the most part 
because he worked from sunup to 

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sundown and that was it. 
Just trying to provide. 

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Yeah. 
So you didn't grow up in church 

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or going to church or anything 
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No. 
OK, All right, so we'll start 

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there. 
And now we're going to jump over

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to Drew. 
Tell us a little bit about your 

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childhood. 
Like, how are you raised? 

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So pretty much I, you know, was 
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My parents divorced when parents
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And so, you know, my Mama did 
everything she could to provide 

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for us. 
It was me and my two sisters and

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my mother. 
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So, you know, you can imagine, 
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diverse, you know, and but my 
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you know, working two or three 
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She's being a nurse. 
Shout out to my mom and she took

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us to church. 
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Lord. 
She's a, a Holy Spirit filled 

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woman. 
But salvation is individual, you

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know, So even despite me going 
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know, you got to have a personal
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You got to have your own 
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And so I, you know, had sports, 
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know, popular guy at school, 
stuff like that, you know, and 

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kind of just went through life, 
you know, doing what I wanted to

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do, you know, on my own accord, 
you know, thought that I was in 

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control of everything. 
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Yeah. 
That was pretty much a little 

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bit of my childhood more so, you
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you know, doing things, going 
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feeling like, yeah, living free,
living free. 

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Well, we think it's free. 
You know what she's saying? 

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Yeah, but I love how you say, 
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own encounter. 
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Lord be so have this intimate 
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But until you make your faith 
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matter. 
Like it doesn't matter if your 

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parents are saved or not. 
That doesn't mean that you are, 

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that salvation doesn't just flow
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And so like, I think a lot of 
people relate to that because it

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takes something for you to get 
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the time because you're like, Oh
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But like, do you like, do you 
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Absolutely. 
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sports growing up and stuff like
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Were you kind of the same way 
like Jesse, like you were just 

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kind of like living free, doing 
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know the Lord at a young age so.
Yeah, I definitely was. 

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I did play sports. 
Well, it's considered a sport. 

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I cheered, right? 
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Girl, that sounds that's a 
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OK, so I did cheer, but I mean 
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I cheered once I got to high 
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pretty much was just I was a 
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Kid for the most part, yeah. 
So when when do you start going 

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to church? 
Is that like later on or? 

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OK, so very later on. 
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talked about, you know, mental 
health and depression and stuff 

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like that in your in your 
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Tell us a little bit about that.
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So because, you know, the lack 
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not having my mom, right, we had
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sister. 
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looked out for ourselves, did 
what we wanted, went where we 

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wanted, right? 
And I feel like we just didn't 

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have any sense of direction on 
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the fact that we knew, hey, we 
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day. 
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And so the enemy really tried to
plant a lot of seeds in my head 

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of, hey, you're not good enough.
Hey, you're not, you know, smart

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enough, you're not cool enough. 
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quiet kid for the most part, 
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And so even then, like I tried 
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what I thought would uplift my 
spirit, hang out with different 

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people, make different friends, 
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But even then, I feel like God 
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And I didn't even know it at 
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would go and, you know, hang out
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still wouldn't feel right. 
I'm like, OK, I'm doing things, 

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going places, but you know, I 
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emptiness every time that I went
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And of course me not knowing 
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didn't know what I was looking 
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I. 
Pulled my phone out because I 

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read this yesterday and you're 
saying like, you know, you're 

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trying to basically find 
something to to fill that 

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emptiness, like whatever. 
And it says if it breaks God's 

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heart, it will never satisfy 
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And I was like, wow, that 
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OK, that cooked. 
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because especially when you're 
young, you know, you're seeking 

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anything, everything. 
You just out here running wild, 

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just trying to find that your 
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going to make you happy. 
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what makes you happy. 
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Do what glorifies God. 
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just trying to find a place. 
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So, Drew, tell us a little bit 
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I know you're playing sports and
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like for you? 
Because you're very extroverted.

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So you're you're not a you're 
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Yeah. 
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you know, I'm, I'm, I'm outside,
I'm everywhere, doing 

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everything, you know, at all the
parties, you know, kickbacks, 

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you know, I'm, I'm, I'm fine. 
I'm trying to satisfy myself 

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because of course, you know, my 
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So it's a void, you know, and 
I'm longing for something, but I

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don't know what it is. 
And there's many people that are

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longing for something, looking 
for things in all the wrong 

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places. 
And we, you know, we think that 

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it will fulfill us, but it 
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a piece of him eternity in the, 
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And only he can feel that death.
And so we look for so many 

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different things. 
And I'm looking at women, you 

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know, the lusts of my eyes and 
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I'm, I'm going to parties. 
I'm, I'm filled with pride and 

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ego. 
Nobody can't tell me anything in

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the Bible says that the Lord 
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he gives grace to the humble. 
And I didn't know what humility 

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look like, you know, all my life
I'm playing sports and stuff 

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like that. 
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know, being charismatic, you 
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know, living this life, what we 
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know, in Panama City, Yolo 
Viviolo, you only live boys, but

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but the devil is a liar. 
You, you, you only live and when

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you have the Spirit of God 
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You can only live when you have 
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make him your Lord and Savior. 
And I and and and and I didn't, 

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I didn't understand that, you 
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church, you know what I'm 
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I you can be in church and you 
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glorify the Lord with our lips, 
but our heart is far away 

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because it's a heart posture. 
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many things, man, smoking, 
drinking. 

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I'm talking about like, it's 
some things, man, I'm telling 

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you like I, I'll be like, Lord, 
I thank you because only you 

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could have delivered me from 
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Only you could have kept me and,
and, and, and, you know, just 

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revealed to me the wickedness 
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The Bible says that the heart is
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Who can know it? 
So even your heart would deceive

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yourself. 
And so I was, you know, deceived

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by many things, you know, even, 
you know, the people that we 

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surround ourselves with, you 
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that. 
We all doing the same thing. 

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We all thinking that, you know, 
we having fun and, and, but 

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before you know it, you know, I 
yeah, yeah. 

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I'm coming up to, to what really
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One of my friends, because so 
many people say this, right? 

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They're like, the Lord knows my 
heart and my friend always clogs

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my teeth because she always says
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deceitful. 
So, and I'm like, it is so like 

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your heart posture matters. 
Like we can say we're followers 

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of Christ. 
We can say we're disciples of 

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Jesus Christ, but what does your
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And I'm so glad that you touched
on pride because I didn't 

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realize that I had such a pride 
issue until I took a 12 step, 

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which is like, I don't know if 
y'all know what a 12 step is, 

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but we do it our church. 
OK, so you just basically go 

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through all the hurts, habits 
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Like the people that hurt you, 
you hurt them. 

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And pride ended up being like 
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Like it wasn't even necessarily 
like the drugs, the alcohol, the

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men, the stuff that I've done in
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It was just a prideful heart. 
Like people couldn't tell me 

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nothing like I knew. 
So you know, it's just crazy how

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God reveals things to you as you
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Like you didn't know all this 
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You know, you have to learn it 
as you go. 

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So going back, let's jump back 
to Jesse. 

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OK, Jesse. 
So like when do you start going 

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to church? 
When do you start trying to like

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when do you have this yearning 
to meet the Lord? 

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Do you hit like a rock bottom or
like how do you get to church 

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and meet him? 
Yes, so. 

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I think it really came once I 
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I was just doing my own thing, 
going places, hanging out with 

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people. 
I ended up getting pregnant at 

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16, right? 
And it was at that point that I 

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realized something had to happen
because I didn't have the 

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family. 
I didn't have the support, 

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right? 
All I had was, you know, really 

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me and my son at this point, and
I needed a sense of direction, 

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right? 
And so that's when, you know, I 

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slowly started opening my Bible 
here and there. 

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But even then, you know I. 
Yeah, but nothing really made. 

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Just couldn't figure it out, 
yeah. 

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Yes. 
But yeah, I think it was at that

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point that I really just started
looking for something else. 

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And I said, hey, listen, you 
know, what about God? 

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I never went to church before, 
you know, Christ. 

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Actually, what's funny is I, 
somebody when I was in middle 

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school, tried to get me to go to
like a Jehovah Witness. 

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Church. 
Oh, OK, yes. 

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And I went there really, truly, 
now that I really think about 

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it, yes, I went there for like a
whole year, right? 

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But even then I was like, I was 
so young and it even then it 

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didn't really make sense. 
But yeah, so when I had Tristan,

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I'm like, man, I, I got to seek 
the Lord. 

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I got to do something different.
I need a, a different strength 

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right than the one that I'm 
operating in. 

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Cause times were extremely hard.
Yeah, and it takes stuff like 

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that for us to get like, for God
to get our attention, like where

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we're like we've been doing it. 
We don't have the strength to 

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keep going on. 
Like, I know for me, that's 

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exactly what it was like. 
I thought I had it together. 

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I was living life. 
I was doing this stuff like 

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we're talking about being free, 
you know, and I say it look, 

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free sin looks like freedom 
until you try to stop. 

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Like when I tried to stop living
that life, that's when I 

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realized that I wasn't chained 
up. 

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Like I was chained to that 
barstool. 

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I was in bondage. 
I could not break free from it 

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until I gave it to the Lord And 
like you saying, you know, you 

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had these depressive thoughts. 
You were, you know, struggling 

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mentally. 
You just couldn't do anything 

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any any longer and you sought 
the. 

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Lord, Right. 
Yes. 

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But to be honest, though, it 
wasn't until me and Drew got 

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together that I really focused 
on God. 

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Yeah. 
Because even then, you know, my 

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relationship was, it was, it was
barely there, surface level. 

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Yeah. 
So. 

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How long have y'all been 
together? 

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Since 2016. 
OK and so let's jump to your 

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what is it? 
Pivotal moment, I guess. 

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OK So what did that already 
happen? 

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But when y'all were together? 
No man. 

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OK, So yeah, actually we was, 
you know, girlfriend and 

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boyfriend. 
Oh, y'all were. 

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So y'all were together when it 
happened? 

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Yeah, but we separated. 
So like, wow, yeah. 

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That's a whole another. 
Hang on, we got time for this 

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man. 
Yeah, we, we actually, yeah, we 

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were actually wasn't together. 
You know, I was, I was choosing 

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pride. 
I was choosing, you know, my 

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life like nobody can tell me 
nothing. 

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Like I I wanted to do what I 
wanted to do. 

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And I thank God for my wife 
because, you know, she held me 

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accountable like nobody ever 
would or could. 

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You know, when you have gifts 
and stuff and you bring things 

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to the table and you charismatic
and you go places and you know, 

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people are intrigued by that 
intestinate and you come 

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surrounded about yes, man, 
people that won't tell you that 

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you're wrong, you know, and tell
you, hey, you need to tighten 

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up. 
And she was my backbone, still 

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is, you know, and I thank God 
for her because she didn't put 

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up with none of my mess, you 
feel me and me doing the things 

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I needed, you know, And she, she
let me know like, but it came a 

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time where she kicked me out the
house, you know, when I had to 

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get my own spot. 
And he likes to say that he 

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kicked himself out the house. 
No, no, he got kicked out the 

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house. 
So how did y'all meet? 

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Let's run this back for just a 
second because how did y'all 

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meet? 
So we ain't gonna say no names, 

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but so you know, right, So I, 
you know, I was at Northside 

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three years and then I left my 
senior year to go to Houston 

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County. 
So, you know, bear down love 

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y'all eagles though, you know. 
But yeah, I met her through a 

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friend and it was through 
Snapchat. 

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And so, you know, I seen her in 
the background and I was like, 

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who that is, you know, like, 
wow, you know, and then I, you 

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know, hit her up and stuff like 
that. 

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And I actually told him I was 
like, y'all come over. 

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You know, he, she brought her 
son. 

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He was three years old. 
Tristan. 

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Oh, wow, yeah, my, my man right 
there. 

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We actually have a live audience
today. 

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Trift is in the room with us. 
And so I told y'all come over. 

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It's like July 4th or something 
like that. 

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I was like, you know, I'm, I'm 
going to make some food. 

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I'm put some food on the grill. 
I was maybe like 2122, man. 

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I ain't cooked nothing. 
I just wanted to cover off of 

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her. 
I was trying to finesse get over

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there, you know, she was 
actually not feeling well and 

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stuff like that. 
So yeah, we met through Snapchat

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and, you know, she was trying to
play hard to get, you know, and.

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I wasn't playing. 
Yeah, she was different for 

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sure. 
Like she like a lot of things 

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that I got growing up was easy. 
I had no, you know, it was, it 

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was just normal, you know, But 
with her, it was different. 

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She made me like, this is not 
the norm. 

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You like, you're going to have 
to show me. 

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You know why I need to give you 
my time. 

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Where the point I had Tristan, 
right, That's what I was. 

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I was a mom. 
You know, I had my own 

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apartment. 
You know, I had just purchased 

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my first car by myself. 
So I had no no games that I no 

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time to play any games. 
So when he came along, I would 

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well, first of all, let's go 
back. 

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He said he had he's going to 
have a cookout get there is 

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absolutely no food and I already
was not feeling good. 

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I was sick that day. 
So I get there and I'm like, 

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bro, you got to be kidding me. 
Like I thought I was going to 

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eat. 
You won't go eat. 

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Anywhere I was, I honestly 
didn't. 

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I didn't eat earlier in the day 
because I thought we were going 

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to eat over there, which is 
crazy. 

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Shame. 
It would be shame. 

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Exactly. 
See, that was the first 

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disappointment. 
He was like, oh, she's playing 

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hard to get. 
No, you disappointed and. 

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They would tell me that exactly 
was there other people here or 

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it was just y'all. 
No, it was other. 

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Oh yeah, it was my friend. 
And it was his friend as well, 

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OK. 
But yeah, OK, so that starts it 

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up and then y'all start dating. 
Now. 

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Did your life look similar to 
this? 

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Like were you partying? 
Because I know you have Tristan,

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you know, you have this whole 
life that you're you've built 

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pretty much by yourself, which 
is so amazing. 

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Girl, congratulations. 
Like that is amazing. 

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Your young mom. 
I mean you lost your mom young. 

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And I mean that is some that is 
amazing. 

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So does your life look like his?
Like are you in like partying? 

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Are are you seeking the world? 
Like what does your life look 

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like at this point? 
So honestly at that point, 

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because you know, I now have 
that financial freedom, I had my

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own place, I was doing my own 
thing. 

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I started going out at that 
point because when I had 

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Tristan, I, I never went to 
clubs when I, when Tristan was a

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baby. 
Honestly, I just used to hang 

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out with friends and do 
whatever, right? 

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But when I started having that 
extra time and that extra money 

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and you know, I was, I was a 
little bit established at that 

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point, right? 
I did start going out, yeah. 

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And I was hanging out with was 
your yeah. 

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So you know, he's like, oh hey, 
let's go to this place, let's do

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this. 
And I'm like, OK. 

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And you know, I ain't never been
outside. 

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So I'm like, oh, outside is 
nice. 

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Like y'all do, this is cool. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So all right, now let's get to 
the actual pivotal moment. 

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So you're out, you're outside 
and. 

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Well, tell us about this time. 
Yeah. 

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So you know, me and me and, and 
my girlfriend at that time, you 

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know, my wife, you know, I'm, 
I'm getting my own apartment, so

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I'm feeling more free. 
But of course the enemy, one of 

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his taxes is, you know, just to 
deceive us. 

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And like you mentioned earlier, 
you know, the to really think 

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that we have our sin under 
control, that we have our life 

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under control. 
And so I'm, you know, doing 

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everything I wanted to do and 
it's going downhill, but I don't

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know it. 
I'm thinking that my life is 

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skyrocketing, you know, like 
I'm, I'm just talking to whoever

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I want to talk to, going 
wherever I want to go, doing 

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whatever I want to do. 
I'm in the I end up selling 

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drugs. 
I'm selling drugs in my 

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apartment to this day. 
You know, even a person said, 

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man, you know, I wanted to rob 
you. 

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And when he see me as a pastor, 
he was like, bro, I didn't know 

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you was a pastor. 
Like like the enemy put in my 

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head, like I wanted to rob 
y'all, you know, I'm saying. 

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And so I was I was selling 
drugs, doing drugs. 

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I'm going to everywhere you can 
name it, you know, Atlanta, 

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stuff like that. 
And I'm in this one, this one 

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place where me and a few of my 
friends are and we're shooting a

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music video. 
And all of a sudden it was May 

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5th. 
I remember like it was 

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yesterday. 
I'll never forget this. 

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And, you know, we're out there 
all day, you know, out there all

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day shooting a music video, 
chilling, hanging out, smoking, 

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drinking and on, you know, West 
side of Macon and out of 

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nowhere, I'm talking about a 
nowhere lessons. 

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I hear 20 gunshots like sudden 
as quick as you can blink an eye

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out of nowhere out of the blue, 
you know, cuz you know, I'm 

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licensed. 
I had my gun on me and stuff 

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like that. 
Like I, I grew up from in Macon 

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too. 
Like I wasn't, you know, I was 

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born there. 
But my family, my dad is from 

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making all my family. 
So you know, I'm feeling OK. 20 

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gunshots out of nowhere, we 
dropped to the ground. 

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I'm, I'm trying to, you know, 
figure out what's going on, you 

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know, 'cause I'm, I, this has 
never happened to me and I'm 

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living in this moment, but it 
feels so real. 

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Feel like an out of body 
experience. 

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Like I'm like Lord, is this, you
know, even not even saying Lord 

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I'm but really saying Lord like 
my soul Spears like Lord, is 

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this happening? 
Like am I OK? 

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Am I dead or what? 
What's going on? 

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My body is in shock. 
My like I can't get up. 

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I'm trying to get up, you know, 
and then, you know, one of my 

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partners, he was like, man, get 
up, let's go, let's go. 

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Before they spin a block and 
before they come back around and

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shoot again and they shoot up 
this abandoned house and I'm 

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running, running, running. 
And it we had to jump a fence. 

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I couldn't even jump the fence. 
My legs were so out of shock. 

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I couldn't even, I, I'm trying 
to figure out how can I get out 

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of this. 
And it was the grace of God was 

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the mercy of the Lord that only 
way I was able to escape. 

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And I had to throw my body over 
the fence because my legs 

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weren't jumped. 
So I'm running to the gas 

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station, run to the nearest gas 
station I could. 

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And I come to this gas station 
and the guy who was the clerk, 

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he looks at me and he takes off 
running and I'm, we're trying to

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call help, trying to call help. 
And my tongue is hanging from my

443
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,400
mouth. 
My tongue is hanging. 

444
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,240
And my partner couldn't even 
look at me. 

445
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,760
He I, I because I couldn't talk 
like I, I thought I was shot or 

446
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,640
whatever the case might be, but 
it was I was shot in the face. 

447
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,640
I was shot in my mouth. 
The bullet grazed my lip. 

448
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,440
And I'm trying to catch my 
words. 

449
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,400
I, I don't like. 
And I'm thinking as my body shot

450
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,480
and stuff him and my partner, he
looks at me. 

451
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,280
He, he turns his head couldn't 
even look. 

452
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,560
And I take a picture. 
Till this day, I still have it 

453
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,040
and I take a picture of it and 
you can see the fear in my eyes.

454
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,680
You can see, you know, the, the,
the, the shock in my eyes. 

455
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,440
And I run to the gas station and
the guy, he, he, he turns and he

456
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,600
runs. 
I'm looking, you know, for help.

457
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,600
You know, I'm like, you know, 
call the ambulance. 

458
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,680
You know, we're telling them 
call the ambulance, call the 

459
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,600
ambulance. 
And at that moment, man, the 

460
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,280
ambulance comes and they are 
shocked. 

461
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320
Like I remember sitting down on 
the curb, you know, after 

462
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,040
getting napkins and stuff like 
that, 'cause I'm leaking 

463
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,800
everywhere. 
Blood is all, everywhere. 

464
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,520
And so the, the, the ambulance 
looked at me and just was in 

465
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:03,960
shock because 1 you know, people
don't live who get shot in the 

466
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,000
face. 
They don't live. 

467
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,400
And if they do live, then they, 
there is something is gone. 

468
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,160
You know it's something is, you 
know, it is evident that they've

469
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,000
been through this. 
And they said. 

470
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,360
It was only like a inch of skin 
left or my whole jaw would have 

471
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,840
been removed. 
You know, none of my teeth was 

472
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,320
affected, nothing. 
I just got a scar and a scar 

473
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,040
that reveal the grace of God, 
the mercy of God, you know, and 

474
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,000
so I'm going through life, man. 
After that, you know, I had a 

475
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,400
head of a laceration. 
They sent me to the emergency 

476
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,360
room. 
I tell the ambulance man, don't 

477
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,800
y'all put my name in the 
newspaper because everybody, 

478
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,320
everybody know me. 
You feel me? 

479
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,080
And I don't want that be known. 
I don't want this to get out. 

480
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,560
Like, you know, it's 
embarrassing and stuff like 

481
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,400
that. 
You know, Drew get shot. 

482
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,240
This happening to like who would
expect that? 

483
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,360
You know, out of out of anybody.
I was the only one to get shot, 

484
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,640
sister. 
Nobody else got shot only leave 

485
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,240
you talking about not a 
coincidence, you know, but but a

486
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,840
divine appointment. 
And The thing is, the Bible 

487
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,440
tells us in Roman 828. 
We know that all things work 

488
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,320
together for the good of those 
that are called that are that 

489
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,720
love the Lord. 
And so even though, you know, it

490
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,640
was the bad things that happened
to me, you know, those that are 

491
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,120
listening that are going through
depression, anxiety, that is 

492
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:23,480
going through rejection, 
abandonment. 

493
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,560
God has a way to use the raw 
materials in his in his wisdom 

494
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,680
to use the good and the bad to 
be able to turn around for your 

495
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,280
your good. 
And so God was using all of 

496
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,480
these things, even the people 
that I was around that didn't, 

497
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,040
you know, show up or the people 
that were there that, you know, 

498
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320
was there and then and the God 
brought me and my wife back 

499
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,680
together. 
I didn't want to be around 

500
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,000
nobody. 
I was insecure. 

501
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,440
I had PTSD, you know, I had 
drinks on my own casket. 

502
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,280
The enemy wanted to kill my 
life. 

503
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,520
He comes to steal, kill and 
destroy, you know, And so the 

504
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,760
enemy was very heavy on me 
trying to just steal my life. 

505
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320
I'm still selling drugs at this 
point after I got shot. 

506
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,600
This how pride, this how, how, 
how, how strong pride is when we

507
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,680
try to do things that our own, 
you feel me? 

508
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,120
And so I'm I'm still selling 
drugs, still want to smoke, even

509
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:10,920
after I got my surgery. 
I come out in a wheelchair and I

510
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,920
asked somebody for a cigarette. 
He did, and he asked me to go 

511
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,320
home with him that same night 
because he he was still scared, 

512
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,080
right? 
He wanted somebody to take care 

513
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,000
of him. 
And we get back to the apartment

514
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240
and he was like, I'm about to 
roll up. 

515
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:29,120
I'm like, what's like your lip 
is hanging? 

516
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,640
Owned by thread. 
And you're talking about 

517
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,800
smoking, like, are you crazy? 
But even then, that pride was 

518
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,840
just so deep. 
He he couldn't even honestly 

519
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,040
accept the fact that he had just
gotten shot. 

520
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,600
It's almost like he he was 
upset, like he was retaliating. 

521
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
And he was like, now I'm really 
just, you know, going to go 

522
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,280
crazy. 
And I'm like, no, you need to 

523
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,120
sit. 
Down like calm down for real. 

524
00:25:54,440 --> 00:26:01,040
So in this, you don't like, you 
become almost resentful towards 

525
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,480
God that this happens. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

526
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960
I mean, I was resentful towards 
God. 

527
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,560
I was upset with myself, you 
know, even, you know, people 

528
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,400
that surround you. 
I was second guessing everybody,

529
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,320
you know, I couldn't trust 
nobody, you know, like, was this

530
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,480
the setup? 
What was happening? 

531
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:16,600
Why did this occur? 
Like. 

532
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,800
You can't trust nobody in this 
moment, you know You're in 

533
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,360
darkness, you're in ignorance, 
you don't know what's going on. 

534
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:25,480
The Bible says that the wicked 
stumble over their feet because 

535
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960
they wallow in darkness and they
don't even know it, you know, 

536
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,520
And so I'm, I'm, I'm trying to, 
I'm lashing out, you know, 

537
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,120
trying to find some type of, 
yeah, satisfaction, Thank you. 

538
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,680
Trying to find, you know, 
something to fulfill the 

539
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440
depression that I'm in, the 
state that I'm in, which is, 

540
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,920
I'm, I'm talking about. 
I, I didn't know what I, what I 

541
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,720
wanted to do, if I wanted to 
live or not. 

542
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,320
You know, I'm not at work 
because, you know, they gave me 

543
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,720
a worker's comp. 
So I'm just in my apartment all 

544
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,600
day long, you know, in in the 
thoughts of my mind. 

545
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,360
And I had an encounter that 
marked my whole entire life. 

546
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,280
I began while I was in and I 
went back to my roots. 

547
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,720
And that's why I thank God for 
my mother because the Bible says

548
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840
you train up a child in the way 
they should go and they will not

549
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,160
depart from it. 
So I remember my roots and I 

550
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,920
began just to worship. 
I love to sing, I love to 

551
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,320
worship God. 
I always have. 

552
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,000
But it wasn't a heartfelt 
worship. 

553
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,760
It wasn't a fear of the Lord. 
And so I began to worship the 

554
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,280
Lord. 
That's all I knew to do all day 

555
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,920
long. 
I'm in the thoughts of my head. 

556
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,200
I'm in depression, anger. 
Statement then we we were back 

557
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,000
talking, but we weren't back 
together because whenever he got

558
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,320
shot, we actually hadn't spoken 
in like almost a week Yeah. 

559
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,040
Because I, I mean, I was also 
resentful towards him. 

560
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,560
Yeah. 
So I didn't want anything to do 

561
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,640
with him. 
He would call me. 

562
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,360
I wouldn't answer. 
He would text me. 

563
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,120
I'd block him, you know, Then 
I'd go back and unblock him 

564
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,520
because even then, he still had 
a relationship with Tristan. 

565
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,680
So he would say, hey, listen, I 
still want to see Tristan. 

566
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,720
I still want to come get 
Tristan. 

567
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,760
So I allowed him to do that 
because, I mean, that's really 

568
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,720
all he knew, Tristan, that, you 
know, at that age. 

569
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,520
My son Tristan. 
Yes, Sir. 

570
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,680
Yeah, they've been locked in 
ever since the first day they 

571
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,360
met. 
So even then I was still very 

572
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,000
hesitant. 
And hence, you know, he was 

573
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,160
saying that he was at the 
department all day everyday, 

574
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,720
nothing but time on his hands 
because I I didn't know if I 

575
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,200
even still wanted to be with him
even after that. 

576
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,600
Yeah, Yeah. 
Because I'm sure it was scary 

577
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600
for you because you have a son 
and now you see that he's in 

578
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,480
dangerous situations, like he's 
putting himself in very 

579
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,840
dangerous situations that almost
just took his life. 

580
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,920
And now you're like, no, I have 
a son. 

581
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,120
I can't have him than that. 
Yeah, he was selling drugs out 

582
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:38,920
of his apartment. 
I'm like, we're not coming over 

583
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,160
here. 
Yeah, I'm I'm having a while 

584
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,520
some money thinking that it's 
flashing stuff like that. 

585
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,880
She looking at it like bro, 
that's not like bro like you. 

586
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,120
I mean like. 
Yeah, without bad. 

587
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,080
So in this like what happens 
first, like do you encounter the

588
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,680
Lord finally or do y'all get 
back together and then the 

589
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,400
encounter kind of happens or 
what? 

590
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,320
So I encountered the Holy Spirit
in my apartment. 

591
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,520
I'm worshipping. 
Yes, yes, yes, that's right by 

592
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,000
myself. 
You know, I had someone that was

593
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,240
living with me too, you know, 
one of my friends that I was 

594
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,000
living with and you know, he 
would go to work and stuff like 

595
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,440
that and do what he had to do. 
But I'm there by my by myself 

596
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,880
and I'm not really, you know, at
this point seeking the Lord. 

597
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
But I was like, man, God has put
it on me. 

598
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,640
And you know, that's the Holy 
Spirit. 

599
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280
You know, the Bible says that 
the Holy Spirit comes to convict

600
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,680
the world, the sinners of 
righteousness, of sin and 

601
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,880
judgment. 
So he was pulling on my heart 

602
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,840
and literally out of nowhere 
while I'm smoking, while I'm 

603
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,920
reading. 
The word of God. 

604
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,920
Worshipping in the midst of 
darkness, the light of God comes

605
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,720
in my apartment and knocks me to
my knees. 

606
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,360
And he begins to deliver me of 
all demonic mindsets, 

607
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,320
strongholds, generational 
curses, addictions, loneliness, 

608
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,520
pride. 
I'm literally on my knees crying

609
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,200
like boogers. 
And I'm talking about just I'm, 

610
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600
I'm I'm yeah. 
And God is delivering me, 

611
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,880
bringing out my heart, showing 
me how he kept me from such a 

612
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,520
young age, showing me his grace 
and mercy, his hand upon my 

613
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,920
life, showing me how he been the
one that has sustained me all 

614
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,800
this time. 
And a lot of people that are 

615
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,920
listening, you have. 
We know that because our 

616
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,680
conscience. 
We know that because God has 

617
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,880
given us conscience that what is
right or wrong. 

618
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,280
We know that that God is pulling
on us that he's calling us even 

619
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,560
now for so those that are 
listening online that we know 

620
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,920
when God is pulling us, but we 
try to suppress the truth. 

621
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,240
You feel me in our pride and 
ego. 

622
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,520
We try to, you know, just hide 
and be distracted by all the 

623
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,480
wrong things. 
And God knocked me to my knees 

624
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,040
and he humbled me. 
And now, you know, after that 

625
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:49,000
happened, I'm, I'm, I'm crazy 
for the Lord radically change, 

626
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,800
you know, and God can do it in 
an instant if we are able to 

627
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720
yield to the Holy Spirit, if we 
were able to year to what he 

628
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,440
want to do. 
And he just fills me with his 

629
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,800
love and I go to all my brothers
and sisters, you know, I'm 

630
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,120
trying to let everybody know, 
like let you feel me. 

631
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,560
You know what I'm saying? 
Like, like y'all know, you feel 

632
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,840
me, Y'all know me like, you 
know, like this just happened. 

633
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,800
But God, you know, has turned it
around for just not my good 

634
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,560
before all of us. 
And I'm trying to tell you about

635
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,080
who has saved my life because it
it what it is none of us, you 

636
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480
know, it's not our works, but 
it's the grace of God. 

637
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,480
And so, yeah, after that, and, 
you know, I, I began to talk to 

638
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,080
her, you know, and, and minister
to her and talk to her about the

639
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Lord in this encounter. 
And, you know, and all my 

640
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,280
brothers and sisters and folks 
was thinking I was crazy. 

641
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,080
Like there was a moment like, 
you know, I'm on Facebook. 

642
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640
I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, 
radically posting scripture, 

643
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,480
like the Holy Spirit is just 
flooded me with information and 

644
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,880
giving me wisdom and 
understanding. 

645
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Like I'm in my word all day 
long. 

646
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,800
I'm praying all day long on 
worship and all day long I was 

647
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,080
in the secret place where nobody
was there. 

648
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,360
And I just knew that he was the 
only one that could keep us 

649
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,480
sustaining, the only one. 
The Bible says that the word of 

650
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,480
God is a limp to our feet and 
the light to our path. 

651
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,640
We can have no direction outside
of the the word of God because 

652
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:05,000
it, it, it is truly him, that 
and his word that can be able to

653
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,840
give us wisdom. 
And you need wisdom nowadays, 

654
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,600
you feel me? 
And so, yeah, I'm, I'm seeking 

655
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,200
God. 
I ain't worried about nothing 

656
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,320
else. 
You know, I'm asking the Lord to

657
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,960
remove the taste of addiction 
out of my mouth. 

658
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,040
The Lord in the instant I didn't
want it no more. 

659
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,080
And that's the thing, like a lot
of us want to change, but we 

660
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,640
don't truly want to, you know, 
it's something in us that is 

661
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,880
still stuck to sin, that still 
wants it, that still craves for 

662
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,320
the lust of the flesh. 
I was tired of it, you know, 

663
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160
and, and a lot of us are tired 
of, of going through the same 

664
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
thing over and over again, 
expecting a different result. 

665
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560
You know, that's insanity. 
And I got tired of it, the same 

666
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,000
thing over and over again, going
through the going through the 

667
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,440
same parties, listen to the same
music, smoking the same drugs, 

668
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,840
having the same alcohol. 
You feel me, You know, I, I was,

669
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,120
I was like, Lord, Lord, I know 
it's something better than I 

670
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,640
know it's something greater that
you have in store. 

671
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,600
It got to be more than this like
no, no, no. 

672
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,200
And I asked the Lord, remove it 
out my mouth And I desire truly 

673
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,120
I was, I, I desired him. 
Bible says those that hunger and

674
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560
thirst for righteousness, you 
shall be filled in that 

675
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,960
instance. 
And so I was, I was filled with 

676
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,360
what hunger for him and 
everything else. 

677
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:18,440
You know, I, I had to make a 
decision to choose the world or 

678
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,720
choose him to depart from 
iniquity and the sin because God

679
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,680
is holy. 
And I had to make a decision 

680
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,360
which God I'm going to serve. 
I'm so glad you just brought 

681
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,160
that up. 
Hang on. 

682
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,640
I got another one. 
I got another one. 

683
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,800
I wanted to say this. 
I went, I was speaking at a 

684
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,920
place the other day and I wanted
to bring it up and it never got 

685
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,840
brought up. 
But now it can get brought up. 

686
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,840
OK, so it says Towser. 
I guess I don't know who this 

687
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,680
is, but it says unless we come 
into this place of conviction 

688
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,960
and pain concerning our sin, I'm
not sure how deep and real our 

689
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,640
repentance will ever be. 
And that's basically what you're

690
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,480
saying. 
Like you have to get to a place 

691
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,720
where like there's got to be 
more than this. 

692
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,280
Like, Lord, I am so sorry. 
The iniquities of my life where 

693
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,000
I've just continuously done this
over and over and over again. 

694
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,320
Like, man, it's just so profound
to get to a place where you're 

695
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,800
like, I want better. 
Like, there has to be better. 

696
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,199
I know me and my husband. 
I'm like, I specifically prayed 

697
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,760
this prayer. 
Like, Lord, take the thirst of 

698
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,080
alcohol away from me. 
Take the thirst away away from 

699
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,040
me. 
But I wasn't in a place really 

700
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,560
where I was ready for it to be 
taken. 

701
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,880
Yeah. 
And so finally, I busted. 

702
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,080
I fell in my kitchen and busted 
my lip wide open and it scared 

703
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,440
me so bad. 
Like it was like super bad. 

704
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,120
Obviously not as bad as sure 
stuff so please don't hear me. 

705
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,440
But it did scare me. 
It scared me. 

706
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,960
I had PTSD from I would wake up 
having nightmares about it just 

707
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,120
like falling. 
What if I would have fell and 

708
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,040
hit my head somewhere else or 
like whatever. 

709
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,440
Like I could see God's 
protection and his provision in 

710
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,080
that moment, but like it took 
that to get my attention. 

711
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,560
Well, that's also me learning 
you because I don't I didn't 

712
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,120
know any of the. 
Yes, yes, girl, I'll send you my

713
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,880
episode so you can hear it. 
It's all OK. 

714
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,280
But yes, like it was so bad and 
it takes stuff like that and for

715
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,920
us to cry out and confess what 
we did like to tell the Lord 

716
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,520
this, I put this over you. 
I had this idol in my life. 

717
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520
I did this, but I'm ready to 
surrender like he will deliver 

718
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,800
us and when we cry out in true 
repentance, that's when we get 

719
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,160
delivered. 
So anyway, I love that I 

720
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,840
remember seeing it on Facebook. 
I'm going to be honest because 

721
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,200
they posted it. 
So I saw it and I called my mom 

722
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,160
and I said mom Drew was shot and
she was like what? 

723
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,040
And I was like, he's fine. 
I think like they whatever. 

724
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,440
And she was like, by the grace 
of God that you are because like

725
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:42,440
to get shot in your face and be 
able to live to tell about God's

726
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,240
mercy over your life. 
Like amazing. 

727
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,760
So y'all get together, y'all, I 
mean, y'all were, you know, back

728
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,480
together. 
What does it look like from that

729
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,240
point, 'cause you're on fire and
you're kind of like dabbling. 

730
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,040
Like you're like, you know, the 
Lord at this point, but you're 

731
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,800
not like, on fire yet. 
So I know he's like beating you 

732
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,640
maybe over the head at this 
point. 

733
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,240
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

734
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:05,920
OK. 
So tell us a little bit about 

735
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,840
them, early months maybe of his 
change. 

736
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,520
OK, so then of course he started
coming to me with Scripture and 

737
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,720
he started telling me, hey, 
Jesse, we have to get right. 

738
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,640
Hey, Jesse, you know, we have to
get back together. 

739
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,120
We have to do things the right 
way. 

740
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Hey, Jesse, we have to stop 
having sex. 

741
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,440
We you know, there's so many 
things. 

742
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,160
And he's just like we got to get
right now. 

743
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,720
Like the time is now. 
And I'm like, OK. 

744
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,960
And you know, for the most part,
you know, I never, I think I do 

745
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,760
very well with submission. 
Like even then, you know, when I

746
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,400
didn't quite know the Lord, I 
was like, OK, you know, that 

747
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,520
sounds good. 
That's perfect. 

748
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,400
Let's try this thing, do it 
together. 

749
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,280
And so we still slowly started 
going to church. 

750
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,360
We ended up going to Hope 
Church. 

751
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,440
Yeah, shout out Pastor Jordan. 
Yeah, yes. 

752
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,600
And so we, you know, that's 
basically where we started, you 

753
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,320
know, and then from there, you 
know, gradually we moved into 

754
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400
our new church, which is new 
beginning church. 

755
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:08,040
And I think it wasn't until then
that we really completely made 

756
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:13,480
that change because we started 
experiencing the Holy Spirit at 

757
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,240
a whole different level. 
And that conviction in that 

758
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:19,480
point was crazy, you know, 
because of course, every when 

759
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,280
you come to Christ, you have to 
have that walk like your, your 

760
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,320
heart desires, your soul 
desires, you know, that presence

761
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,000
of God. 
But I think that first year of 

762
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,280
us, you know, coming to Christ, 
we were still, you know, in a 

763
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,040
sense, figuring it out. 
But then we got married. 

764
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,880
I mean, and when we got married,
that's when we were like, hey, 

765
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,560
listen, the floodgates they're 
about to open, like heaven is 

766
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960
about to be wide, like, let's do
it. 

767
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,360
And so, you know, it was, it was
from then on that we were like, 

768
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,200
hey, let's, we're, we're locked 
in, yes. 

769
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,240
That is so good. 
I just was thinking because I 

770
00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:58,400
knew when I came to Christ and 
people thought I was crazy, 

771
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,800
right? 
Because you have this radical 

772
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,480
change and like 2 weeks ago I'm 
at the bar and now I'm like 

773
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,920
y'all we got to give this up. 
We got to give this up, you 

774
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,000
know? 
And so people look at you like 

775
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,920
you're crazy and they're like, 
this isn't the same person. 

776
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,880
I knew like all this stuff. 
And for me, I didn't know, 

777
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,800
Grace, I was truly beating 
people over the head to the 

778
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,040
point where they're like, don't 
want to be around me. 

779
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Like, don't you know? 
And like I had to learn that as 

780
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,960
time grew, like, hey, love them 
where they're at. 

781
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,320
Like, I'm not going to condone 
what you're doing. 

782
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,760
I'm not going to say that's 
right or condemn it. 

783
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,000
Condemn it. 
But I'm going to love you like 

784
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,560
I'm going to show you the love 
of Christ. 

785
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,280
And so was that kind of how it 
was at the beginning? 

786
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,400
Like you were like, we got to do
this, but you were like, 

787
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,840
probably like, what's going on? 
Or I was OK? 

788
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,520
Yeah, I was like, I I knew that 
we were headed in the right 

789
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,760
direction, but I was like, man, 
this is kind of hard. 

790
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,600
Like, what do you mean? 
What do you mean I can't curse 

791
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,520
anymore like. 
It was just a small little 

792
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,040
curse. 
Bird, you know what do you mean 

793
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:01,680
I can't listen to this song? 
Like, you know, even because the

794
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,280
enemy, he tries to tell us like,
oh, this is not that bad. 

795
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Like that song is not that bad. 
It's a love song, right? 

796
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,720
R&B. 
Like we would go to Walmart, 

797
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,720
like music would start playing 
and I'd be like, oh, excuse me, 

798
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,080
excuse me. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

799
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,600
So. 
I'm telling you, I went into I 

800
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,640
guess there's this shoe store in
in Macon and I went in there 

801
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,160
yesterday. 
Don't fight me, y'all, don't 

802
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,160
fight me. 
I sorry I went in. 

803
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,200
I was just in the mall anyway, 
so I go in and they were playing

804
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,920
like music that I loved in 
middle school. 

805
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,040
I mean, I was getting it and 
then all of A and I was like, I 

806
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:37,280
am so sorry, Lord, I am so sorry
because it took me right back, 

807
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,960
took me right back. 
And I talk to people about that 

808
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,040
regularly because I love music. 
I've always loved music. 

809
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,920
And so now I'm like, I can't. 
That's a gateway for. 

810
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,160
Me. 
It is so powerful. 

811
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,320
Yes. 
Well, we know that Satan was 

812
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,200
like, what was it, the director?
Yeah, yeah. 

813
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,200
So it's like he can use that to 
open up a little door and creep 

814
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,800
in. 
And so it just can. 

815
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,520
It'll snowball if you're not 
careful. 

816
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,680
That's true because. 
Because you start listening to a

817
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,280
song and it takes you back to 
that time, right? 

818
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,120
Even like, you start listening 
to a certain song and now all of

819
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,080
a sudden you want to drink. 
You're just like, oh, I need a 

820
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,120
drink now, Right. 
And that's just, that's the 

821
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:17,120
power that music truly can have.
And of course, we have to be 

822
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,560
very careful with what we're 
putting into our ears because of

823
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,920
course, it goes into our heart. 
Yeah. 

824
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,520
Yeah, that was the second. 
Thing the Lord removed from me, 

825
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,640
you know, and that's why we need
the Holy Spirit. 

826
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Because He is the Spirit of all 
truth. 

827
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,920
He is what reveals the heart of 
the Father. 

828
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,640
You know, without the Spirit of 
God, we have no strength, no 

829
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,920
wisdom, no discernment. 
And you know, the first thing 

830
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,960
the Lord took was my drugs. 
You know the Bible tells us to 

831
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:46,280
be sober. 
And to be vigilant because Satan

832
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000
is your adversary. 
He comes like a roaring lion 

833
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,000
looking who to the vow. 
And it comes as small foxes, you

834
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,360
know, the enemy comes and try to
plant seeds, you know, and try 

835
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,160
to tell you. 
Yeah. 

836
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,280
You can still do this. 
You have this under control. 

837
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,840
You would still listen to this. 
You can still go to this place. 

838
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,680
But you know, you cannot because
you have light and darkness 

839
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:08,600
cannot coexist. 
You feel me. 

840
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,800
And so you know, you cannot say 
one thing and then your 

841
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,800
lifestyle do another. 
And that was what, you know, 

842
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,320
when God changes us, of course 
he calls us to die to ourself. 

843
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,600
You feel me and God daily, 
sister. 

844
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,640
It's a it's a daily walk, you 
know, and I think sometimes we 

845
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,240
forget like, you know, like the,
the world has an assignment. 

846
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,280
Satan has an assignment, of 
course, but we also have one, 

847
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,400
you know, to, to walk in 
holiness, to walk in 

848
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,840
righteousness to, to, to not 
compromise, you know, to do the 

849
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,080
right thing with the Bible says 
that you should know them by 

850
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,520
their fruit. 
You should know them. 

851
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Jesus says that you, you would 
know my disciples, but how they 

852
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,360
obey me, how they love me, you 
know, And so, yeah, man, the 

853
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,320
music is so powerful and, and 
the we cannot give room to Satan

854
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,120
when we give room to him. 
He don't come in when we give 

855
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,360
him legality and we open up the 
doors. 

856
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,040
You give him opportunity to come
to destroy your life. 

857
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,800
You feel me. 
And so we have to close the door

858
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,800
to everything, the door to our 
eyes, what we look at, what we 

859
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,400
listen to, the things that we 
say out of our mouth, the 

860
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,680
corruption that comes out of our
mouth because out of the 

861
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,920
abundance of the heart, the 
mouth will speak. 

862
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,280
You feel me? 
What's in your heart going to 

863
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,400
come out? 
And so, you know, like we find 

864
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,440
ourselves too, like, you know, 
we might go on vacation or 

865
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,680
something like that. 
We walk in the mall, we, we hear

866
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,960
something, You know, I was a big
Beyoncé fan. 

867
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,800
You know, I, I like we, we out 
here the songs and I start 

868
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,040
singing. 
I'm like, oh, no, I can't mix 

869
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,560
this, you know, I can't, I can't
mix the two. 

870
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,600
You know, the Bible says those 
that worship me shall worship me

871
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,600
in spirit and in truth. 
And so, you know, we cannot, you

872
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,560
know, compromise. 
And so, yeah, talking about the 

873
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,480
darkness thing, I heard this 
this week and it was like, if 

874
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,640
you stay in darkness so long 
that your eyes will adjust, 

875
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,560
you'll start thinking that 
you're living this like in 

876
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,680
light, right? 
And like you're not, you're 

877
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
living in darkness, but your 
eyes have adjusted. 

878
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,720
And now you think that sin 
really isn't as bad as it is 

879
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,480
that music that you're listening
to. 

880
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,600
Oh, well, it wasn't as bad as I 
used to do, so I'm doing better.

881
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,840
No, sin is sin regardless. 
So you need to make sure that 

882
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,760
you have those boundaries, that 
you have these guardrails set 

883
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,080
up, you know, and just fill your
time with things that glorify 

884
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,920
the Lord. 
So it's just good. 

885
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,680
So let's jump into the here and 
now as we start going to new 

886
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,960
beginnings, right? 
How do you get to be a pass the 

887
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,760
jerk What? 
It's the Lord. 

888
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,960
It's all going to him. 
You know, like I didn't ask for 

889
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,320
this life and by any means, you 
know, I want to be in the NBA, 

890
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,680
do my thing. 
You know, I'm hooping out or 

891
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,240
what out. 
You know, I love kids growing 

892
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680
up, you know, maybe be a doctor,
you know, whatever the case is 

893
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,080
going to be. 
So, you know, the Lord first 

894
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,880
I'm, I start working at 
O'charley's. 

895
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,120
I had so many jobs trying to 
make money, you know, 'cause 

896
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,960
I'm, I'm staying with my, you 
know, well, let's Fast forward 

897
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,680
me. 
And after that I become, I end 

898
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,520
up working for Verizon, you 
know, still now working for 

899
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,640
Verizon. 
She, my wife works for 18. 

900
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,600
They are so and and so, you 
know, the Lord called me there 

901
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,840
purposefully because shout out 
to my brother, you know, Michael

902
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Gettins, whom I love dealing him
and his wife, man. 

903
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,600
They were such a anchor in our 
lives at A at a pivotal time 

904
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:30,440
when we needed the most. 
And you know, I he me and work 

905
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,040
together and he starts like 
holding me accountable. 

906
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,880
That's why I said we don't need 
no yes, man around. 

907
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,920
There's only people that's going
to hold you accountable. 

908
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,560
And yeah, he he he's a man of 
God, you know, filled with the 

909
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,440
spirit of God and he was like 
brother, like this ain't true. 

910
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,920
I'm at Verizon right now. 
This, you know, even you know, 

911
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:53,040
he like before I got shot, I was
told by a prophet that the enemy

912
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,760
wanted to kill me. 
I was told by my pastor that 

913
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,080
demons came to them and told 
them that they wanted my soul. 

914
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,440
So everything that happens in 
the spirit is already been 

915
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,040
revealed. 
You feel me like it's nothing 

916
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,680
hidden in the spirit. 
And so I still had a heart in 

917
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,080
heart. 
I didn't believe it like I'm, 

918
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,640
you know, like. 
And so my brother, you know, he 

919
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,840
was telling me, you know, why 
we'll work because I'll go 

920
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,240
outside every 15 minutes, be 
smoking cigarettes and stuff 

921
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:19,520
like that. 
He was like, man, the Lord is 

922
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,640
calling you. 
The Lord is calling you like, 

923
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,360
which drew you going to be 
today, you know, like you double

924
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,760
minded, like, you know what I'm 
saying? 

925
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,080
You said doing one thing, you 
saying one thing, you know, and 

926
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,440
I had to really sit with that. 
You know, I can't, you know, be 

927
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480
in church and still be in the 
streets, you know, be in church 

928
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,080
and start, you know, going, you 
know, transformation. 

929
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,480
Yeah, Grace, it takes time, but 
it also is something that we 

930
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,880
have to work out our salvation 
with fear and trembling. 

931
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,040
You feel me? 
And so the Lord is just pulling 

932
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,040
on my heart, you know. 
And you know, 2021 we get 

933
00:45:54,040 --> 00:46:00,360
married. 2022, the Lord is just 
renewing us daily, transforming 

934
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
us. 
He's doing things quickly, yeah.

935
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,600
You know, and I, I don't quite 
understand. 

936
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,800
I still don't understand it. 
Like how what God, it does, it 

937
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,840
never will in this short amount 
of time. 

938
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,840
I'm like, Lord, like I, I don't,
I don't understand it. 

939
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,520
So yeah. 
God truly changed us because we 

940
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,560
used to argue and bicker and go 
back and forth so much when we 

941
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,080
were in a relationship. 
I remember at one point when we 

942
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,440
were boyfriend and girlfriend I 
literally prayed. 

943
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,080
I said please get this man out 
of my life. 

944
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,640
Like, I want to be out of this 
relationship so bad. 

945
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,240
And he always told me he was 
like, I'm not going nowhere. 

946
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:36,480
Yeah. 
And I'm like. 

947
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,960
Yeah, he used to tell me that 
even when he was doing me wrong 

948
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,640
and doing whatever he wanted to 
do, he was like, I'm going to 

949
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,360
marry you. 
And I'm like, bro, I literally 

950
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,480
can't stand your guts. 
Get away from me. 

951
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,240
Yeah. 
So we used to argue so much and 

952
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,480
it was so bad. 
Like to the point where we would

953
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,400
get physical with one another, 
you know? 

954
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,680
And that's something that we 
really don't talk to people 

955
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,920
about, honestly. 
But we're, we're being real 

956
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,120
here, right? 
Yeah, So we used to put hands on

957
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,840
each other. 
Yeah. 

958
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,400
Like, seriously, when we were in
a relationship and once we came 

959
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,400
to Christ, like when I told you 
we don't argue, we don't fight. 

960
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Like, we have a true peace now. 
And yes, he's still Aggie. 

961
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,640
He gets to wonder. 
Sometimes, of course, got to. 

962
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,240
But but God really changed us, 
like he transformed us and he 

963
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:24,240
gave us a different level of 
respect. 

964
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,360
And of course, it's because we 
are placing him in the middle, 

965
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,680
right? 
Because we do have the, the fear

966
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,320
of the Lord, like, Hey, I'm not 
going to talk to you this way 

967
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,520
because I'm, I'm not going to 
let the enemy, you know, get 

968
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,960
into my heart all that God has 
done for me. 

969
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,720
I'm, I'm not going to do these 
things to my husband. 

970
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:41,640
I'm not going to treat him this 
way, right? 

971
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,480
Even when I'm upset, hey, I'm 
still going to go make your 

972
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:44,280
play. 
It's OK. 

973
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,320
Yeah, that is so good. 
OK, so me and a few of my 

974
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,440
girlfriends, we were just 
recently talking about doing an 

975
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:51,720
episode about submitting to your
husband. 

976
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,880
And we we all were like, so who 
does this best? 

977
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,840
And none of us. 
We were like, we all sorry about

978
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,240
it, like, but so and then I love
to hear that just because you're

979
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,360
also like, you know what? 
I'm going to love my husband 

980
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,320
like a godly wife is called to 
love him. 

981
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,560
So even if our circumstances 
ain't great at that moment, like

982
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,800
we've been bickering, he getting
on my nerves, I'm still going to

983
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,440
be a godly wife to him and love 
him. 

984
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,160
Yeah. 
And he does the same thing with 

985
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,160
me as well. 
You know, sometimes I can get a 

986
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,120
little emotional like every 
other woman. 

987
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,360
And he's like, well, I'm not 
going to argue with you. 

988
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,560
I remember the other day, I 
don't know what I was upset 

989
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,320
about. 
Because we when we get upset, 

990
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,400
it's really small stuff. 
Like, it's never anything big. 

991
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,040
And he comes in the room and 
he's like, all right now the 

992
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,760
sun's about to go down. 
Yeah, don't let it go down. 

993
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,880
Don't let the angle go down. 
And even then, I was like, you 

994
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,800
know what? 
You're aggravating me even more.

995
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,800
But you, you're right. 
You're right. 

996
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,760
You're right. 
Yes, that is so. 

997
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,600
No, So I mean, you are pretty 
much. 

998
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,520
So you're saying Michael is his 
name Michael? 

999
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,640
Is that correct? 
Michael kind of is discipling 

1000
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,480
you basically. 
And you know, that's where it's 

1001
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,440
so important to have these 
people because it's iron 

1002
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,920
sharpens iron. 
We have these people in our 

1003
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,760
lives that are further along 
than us. 

1004
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,160
They can hold us accountable for
these actions. 

1005
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,120
They can be like, hey, that 
ain't lining up, you know, 

1006
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,240
whatever. 
And so does he. 

1007
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,760
How do y'all get the new 
beginnings? 

1008
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,720
Like does he? 
Yeah, he's a youth pastor at 

1009
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:18,440
that moment as well too, you 
know, still is as well to this 

1010
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,920
day faithful to the Lord. 
And I, I, I, I analyze and I 

1011
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,720
watch him, you know, like 
there's, there's people watching

1012
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,120
us, their eyes on us. 
And you have no idea. 

1013
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,520
I have no idea. 
You know, we are, we're called 

1014
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,880
to be a, the light in the world,
you know, not to be like the 

1015
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,680
world. 
You know, we are in this world, 

1016
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,400
but not to be of it. 
And so I'm watching him, you 

1017
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,800
know, seeing if he going, you 
know, slip up or wave a, you 

1018
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,400
know, a compromise. 
And man, he has the joy of the 

1019
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,160
Lord. 
It's always smiling and always 

1020
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:45,960
taking care of customers. 
But it's his life. 

1021
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,000
You can tell it's not, it's not 
fake, it's genuine, it's 

1022
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,280
authentic. 
And it begins to minister me and

1023
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,320
it hits the depths of my heart, 
you know, And yeah, he I come 

1024
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:56,840
to, we start calling A New 
beginning. 

1025
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,240
And it's perfect because it's a 
bilingual church and my wife is 

1026
00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:01,720
Hispanic. 
You know, man, you know, shout 

1027
00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,520
out A new beginning and you know
my pastors as well. 

1028
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,600
And so, yeah, we're there, you 
know, being disciple and the 

1029
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,920
Bible tells us to walk with the 
wise and you become wise, but a 

1030
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,760
companion of fools suffers harm.
And so we have to understand 

1031
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,560
that, you know, that for us to 
to be do we have to analyze who 

1032
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,320
we're around, you know, and I 
and the people that we're 

1033
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,960
around, like you can still love 
them. 

1034
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,520
You can love them from a 
distance. 

1035
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:28,880
You can pray for them for the 
distance. 

1036
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,560
Matter of fact, the, the best 
thing you can do is to pray for 

1037
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,920
them, you know. 
And so, yeah, you know, certain 

1038
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:40,040
things I had to cut off certain 
friend groups, I had to let go. 

1039
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,520
I, I couldn't continue to put 
myself in that situation and 

1040
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,120
give room to the enemy because I
will always fall to it. 

1041
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,800
You know, I, I would. 
But the Lord says that, that he 

1042
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,920
has not given us anything that 
has not been known to man. 

1043
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,600
You know, Jesus had to go 
through, you know, even all the 

1044
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,680
temptations, but he did not sin.
And the Lord always gives us a 

1045
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,320
way in the escape, and he gives 
us that way in the escape to 

1046
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,800
choose, hey, to do the right 
thing, to be surrounded, trying 

1047
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,720
to write the right people. 
And yeah, I started putting 

1048
00:51:05,720 --> 00:51:09,440
myself, me and my wife around 
people, godly people, people 

1049
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,480
that have the mind of Christ, 
you know, people that love the 

1050
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:16,120
Lord, people that want to please
him, people that worship him in 

1051
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,480
spirit and truth. 
And that's what's so important, 

1052
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,000
man. 
We cannot do this life alone. 

1053
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,320
You cannot walk this life alone.
The Lord says that it's not good

1054
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,960
that man should be alone. 
And so he gives us people, 

1055
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,320
destiny helpers to come to show 
us, you know, how to follow him.

1056
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,200
We follow Christ. 
But Apostle Paul said, follow me

1057
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,520
as I follow Christ. 
You know, they're, you know, we 

1058
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,280
have to follow those that that 
are walking that path to let us 

1059
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,240
know like that ain't right. 
You don't need to do this, you 

1060
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,520
know what I'm saying? 
Because in our beginning and our

1061
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,760
baby stage, we're still ignorant
of certain things, you know, my 

1062
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,360
people, parents, because of lack
of knowledge. 

1063
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,440
And you need people to pour into
you to tell you right from 

1064
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,600
wrong. 
And so, yeah, we're a new 

1065
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,080
beginning. 
We're still there. 

1066
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,000
You know, God has done so many 
great things. 

1067
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,760
You know, God has transitioned 
us from one church to now with a

1068
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,000
bigger space and his hand, the 
hand of the Lord man is is just 

1069
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,160
upon this ministry. 
It is a prophetic ministry where

1070
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,480
people are healed, where people 
are delivered. 

1071
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,520
You know, if you're looking for 
a church home, then yeah, this 

1072
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,880
is the place to be. 
And and so I thank God for new 

1073
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,000
beginning church in our church 
family, you know, bilingual, you

1074
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,080
know, it's it look like it look 
like heaven. 

1075
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,960
You know, we got white folks, we
got black folks. 

1076
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,920
We feel me. 
We got everybody with that. 

1077
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,280
Sorry. 
It's beautiful man. 

1078
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,840
And it's a place of love, you 
know? 

1079
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:37,080
And so, yeah, I have loved to 
watch y'all's journey on 

1080
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,280
Facebook and, like, just be able
to see it. 

1081
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640
And then to be able to sit down 
with y'all this morning, I'm 

1082
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,040
just like, oh, God, has just 
really moved in both of y'all's 

1083
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,560
lives. 
And it's very, you know, 

1084
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,560
apparent. 
Thank you. 

1085
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,800
Thank you. 
So we're going to get ready to 

1086
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,720
close, like, not right now, 
right? 

1087
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,640
But we're going to start winding
it down. 

1088
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,920
So this is how I usually end an 
episode, OK? 

1089
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,120
There's one of three ways. 
And y'all both will answer one 

1090
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,000
of these questions. 
OK, one, maybe you're driving in

1091
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,200
the car on the way here and 
you're like, I really want to 

1092
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,240
talk about this and you haven't 
had the chance to do say Layla, 

1093
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,160
it just hasn't got brought up 
and you really do want to share 

1094
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,520
it. 
You can do that. 

1095
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:16,040
You can give it a word of advice
to anybody or anybody that's 

1096
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,880
listening or just a word of 
advice or what is something that

1097
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,640
God's revealed to you more 
recently. 

1098
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,000
So when I mean by that is like, 
you know, like when you read a 

1099
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,640
scripture or something and it 
didn't really hit that first 

1100
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,200
time, but then you go back and 
read it eventually and it's like

1101
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,280
it made sense. 
Like the light bulb went off. 

1102
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,840
Like maybe he revealed something
to you like that. 

1103
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,400
How do y'all want to end it? 
What do y'all want to do? 

1104
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,720
She might do something 
different, but I just want to 

1105
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040
like talk about something. 
Give a word of advice, yeah? 

1106
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,600
Perfect. 
We'll, we'll let Jesse think on 

1107
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,280
hers. 
OK. 

1108
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,840
And then Jerry King, just go 
ahead. 

1109
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,120
Yeah, so the Bible tells us in 
Proverbs 3. 

1110
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,040
I believe it's 5 through 7. 
To trust in the. 

1111
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,240
Lord, with all your heart I just
a piece of it, the Lord. 

1112
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:02,000
Wants our hearts, those that are
listening, the Lord is calling 

1113
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,840
you and he wants your heart. 
It's not but coincidence that we

1114
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,920
are here and he says, but lean. 
Not on to your own understanding

1115
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,120
the way you want to think. 
You know, your your own 

1116
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,880
ideology, the things that you've
went through through life and 

1117
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,440
even your family and the things 
that they're going through. 

1118
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,320
You know, I'm talking to the 
Muslim, I'm talking to the 

1119
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,440
atheist, I'm talking to the one 
that's lonely and depressed 

1120
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,240
right now. 
Don't lean to your own 

1121
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,960
understanding. 
The one that's addicted, the one

1122
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,040
that don't have any type of that
feel like the walls are closing 

1123
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,200
in, don't know where to go. 
Talking to the one that's 

1124
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,760
rejected, that has been 
abandoned. 

1125
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Do not lean on your own 
understanding. 

1126
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:45,240
But the Bible says this. 
But in all your ways acknowledge

1127
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:47,400
him and he shall direct your 
path. 

1128
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,760
But he says, be not wise in your
own eyes, but fear the Lord and 

1129
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,240
depart from evil. 
So I just want to encourage 

1130
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:00,800
those that are listening that 
the Lord is not shocked by what 

1131
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,680
you're going through. 
And the Lord can do things and 

1132
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,600
make ways in the midst of the 
wilderness. 

1133
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,040
He is doing a new thing and time
is running out. 

1134
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:18,320
And we are here just to shine 
that light, to glorify Jesus, 

1135
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,400
the one that died for your sins,
the one that hung on the cross 

1136
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,760
for you. 
And I just want to open that 

1137
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,520
window right now. 
And if you feel a tug in your 

1138
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,880
heart, the Lord is revealing now
his love, and He is telling you 

1139
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,960
to come to him. 
All who are weary, all to a 

1140
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,400
heavy. 
Laden and he will kill if you 

1141
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,040
rest. 
This is our testimony. 

1142
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,680
We came to him. 
He cleansed us. 

1143
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,280
He purified us. 
He gave us rest. 

1144
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,200
He gave us a peace that 
surpasses all understanding. 

1145
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,400
This is not something that we're
talking about. 

1146
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,120
That is in the physical, that is
in the. 

1147
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,120
Spirit and the Lord desires your
heart. 

1148
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,840
And if you want to make this 
declaration, the Lord wants to 

1149
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,880
come into your heart, come into 
your life right now. 

1150
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,440
And if you just repent of your 
sins, say Lord and confess with 

1151
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,520
your mouth and believe what unto
your heart to salvation. 

1152
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:07,880
The Lord right there in that 
moment, the Holy Spirit will 

1153
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,760
feel you where you are. 
He'll begin to doing the work in

1154
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,760
you. 
He'll begin to transform your 

1155
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,440
life, renewing your mind. 
And so I just want to encourage 

1156
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,840
you. 
Today, don't grow weary. 

1157
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,280
Your season is now. 
The day of salvation is now. 

1158
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,880
The day to get right is now. 
You don't know what tomorrow 

1159
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,880
holds. 
Like I said, I was shining to 

1160
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:31,200
face my wife, You know, used to 
have suicidal thoughts. 

1161
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,720
Alexis here went through 
darkness and depression. 

1162
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,360
I'm sure she was lonely, didn't 
want to be around nobody didn't 

1163
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,080
want to live. 
But the Lord made a way where 

1164
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,280
there seems like there's no way.
And so I just want to encourage 

1165
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,000
you today when the Lord speaks, 
don't not harden your heart. 

1166
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,760
But he wants to gives you a new 
heart and he wants to give you a

1167
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,680
new mind to think like he 
thinks, to feel like how he 

1168
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,080
feels, and to love like he love.
And so we love you, God loves 

1169
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,200
you, Jesus loves you, and he 
cares about you. 

1170
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,920
And God bless you. 
God bless you greatly. 

1171
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,400
Yes, that was good. 
Jesse. 

1172
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,520
You got to follow that up, girl.
You going to do good though. 

1173
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,480
You going to do good. 
Jeez Louise. 

1174
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,360
I love the fact that he touched 
on Scripture. 

1175
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,440
Come to me, all who are weary 
and heavy laden because that is 

1176
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,400
a part of my testimony as well, 
right? 

1177
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,320
I suffered through depression 
really, really bad as a child. 

1178
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,880
I remember being 10 years old 
and taking a bunch of pills 

1179
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,280
because I just simply didn't 
want to live. 

1180
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:35,640
And I was at the house by 
myself. 

1181
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,920
Dad was working late night. 
I was just in the bathroom and 

1182
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
I, you know, decided I didn't 
want to live at that point. 

1183
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,320
I used to, I used to cut myself 
as well, you know, I used to 

1184
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,320
have so many thoughts of you're 
not enough, you know? 

1185
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:58,000
And when I finally came to 
Christ, he revealed what he 

1186
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,520
truly had for me and my family. 
He delivered me out of that 

1187
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:09,240
depression, and he gave me a 
renewed mind, a renewed heart of

1188
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,440
hey, listen, you're more than a 
conqueror. 

1189
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,720
Look at all that you've been 
through. 

1190
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,600
That's been me. 
I've been carrying you through 

1191
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,680
this whole way. 
I'm the one who's been doing 

1192
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,920
this for you. 
I've been sustaining you, you 

1193
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,920
know, And I came to the 
realization of, wow, like I 

1194
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,960
could never understand God's 
love. 

1195
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,400
Yeah, I could never, never 
understand it. 

1196
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,560
And now that I had, I know of 
what God truly has planned for 

1197
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,960
me. 
I look forward to it every day, 

1198
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,560
Amen. 
Every place I wake up every day.

1199
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,320
Lord, what is it that you want? 
Lord, let your will be done. 

1200
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,360
Because when we are in his will,
we can't fail. 

1201
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,360
You can't fail. 
So those thoughts of I'm not 

1202
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:48,760
enough, this is not going to 
happen. 

1203
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,720
I'm not good enough. 
You know, it's gone at this 

1204
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,400
point because he's the one who 
has been sustaining me this 

1205
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,000
whole time. 
And I know that He's going to be

1206
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,240
the one to carry me through it. 
And I'm just happy, you know, 

1207
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,280
I'm excited. 
The fact that you invited us 

1208
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,000
here. 
I'm excited, you know, that we 

1209
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,800
got to know you today as well. 
God does everything. 

1210
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,600
You know, he's very strategic 
about everything that he does, 

1211
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,680
right? 
And I truly pray that this 

1212
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,200
podcast is going to be a 
blessing to so many others, 

1213
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,720
right? 
Because we all go through these 

1214
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,240
situations. 
But we're here to tell you, come

1215
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,360
to Christ and he will take all 
those burdens away. 

1216
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,760
He will give you a renewed mind.
He will give you supernatural 

1217
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,200
strength and the name of Jesus, 
name of Jesus. 

1218
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,120
And that's that's really all 
that I have for you. 

1219
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,120
Yeah, the Lord gave me a word 
for you. 

1220
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,200
Oh, come. 
On on the way here. 

1221
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,120
Psalms 92 and 12. 
Because this podcast is an 

1222
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,760
Oasis. 
It's a place of rest where 

1223
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:47,280
people can come and feel free, 
where people reflect on what God

1224
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,720
has brought them through. 
So yeah, this is an Oasis, a 

1225
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,560
place of rest. 
And the Lord has healed many 

1226
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,120
people through this podcast, 
deliver many people through this

1227
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,320
podcast has given people a sense
of hope. 

1228
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,920
This is a place of hope, a place
of healing for a lot of people. 

1229
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,680
God has put the words in your 
mouth like he did in Jeremiah 

1230
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,200
and filled with you with the 
fire that shut up in your bones.

1231
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:17,560
And the and the Bible says in 
Psalm 92 that this podcast will 

1232
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:21,000
flourish. 
This podcast will be like the 

1233
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,120
Cedar of Lebanon that shows 
strength. 

1234
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,800
That shows power restoration, 
healing. 

1235
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:31,880
What you are doing is not easy, 
my sister, but the Lord says I 

1236
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,080
am the one my. 
Grace is sufficient for you that

1237
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,480
in your weakness my strength is 
made strong. 

1238
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,000
And so I don't want you to ever 
feel weary or tired. 

1239
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,360
It's someone that's like you, 
like Lord. 

1240
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,360
But the Lord says I am the one 
that sustaining you, my 

1241
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,560
daughter. 
I have called you for such a 

1242
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,440
time as this, there's an Ester 
anointing over your life and you

1243
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,160
have a mindset that it Lord, if 
I perish, I perish, but I'm 

1244
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,440
going to do your will. 
And you are the one that the 

1245
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:01,000
Lord is raising up to speak to 
those esters, those deborah's 

1246
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,840
that have dry bones. 
And you are calling and speaking

1247
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,120
to those dry bones, those people
that are depressed, those people

1248
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,440
that have testimonies that only 
you can be able to, to, to, to 

1249
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,400
to reach them where they are. 
And so God is strengthening you 

1250
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,120
every day, everyday, even 
moments that we feel like man 

1251
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,240
Lord, I can't do it. 
He said exactly. 

1252
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,000
He says, yeah, just continue to 
lean on me. 

1253
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,720
And this is this is a place, man
where it's going to continue to 

1254
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:29,240
flourish and God is opening up 
for up more opportunities. 

1255
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,320
God has opened up doors and it's
going to be quickly where you 

1256
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:34,800
going to see things are just 
going to be be happening. 

1257
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,920
I've been seeing you and 
watching you and I'm, I'm just 

1258
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,520
so proud and honored, you know, 
to know you and be your friend 

1259
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,520
and where God is taking you. 
Greatest to come for you. 

1260
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,720
Thank you, Drew, you have no 
idea what the prayer I prayed 

1261
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,440
this morning was so that I 
needed that. 

1262
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,040
Thank you so much. 
Oh, this was so good y'all. 

1263
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,760
I'm so glad y'all came on. 
I'm telling you, I thought about

1264
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,240
it a while back and I think I 
messaged y'all once and we were 

1265
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,600
like, we'll come back, we'll 
start back. 

1266
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,160
And then when y'all said yes, I 
was like, oh, thank God. 

1267
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,920
And this is even better than 
what I what I even could 

1268
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,520
imagine. 
And you know, y'all were talking

1269
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,520
about like lean not on your own 
understanding because we can't 

1270
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:15,440
understand what God has. 
We truly can't even grasp the 

1271
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,800
supernatural powers that he 
truly does have. 

1272
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,320
All right guys, I hope y'all 
have enjoyed this as much as we 

1273
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,520
have. 
This has been absolutely 

1274
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,920
incredible. 
We even had a extra guest. 

1275
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,040
Moose jumped up here with us 
this morning. 

1276
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,800
So anyway, y'all stay tuned, 
stay blessed, and we'll see you 

1277
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,040
guys next week. 
Bye.