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Welcome to the Illuminate Church
podcast. 

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We hope today's message is 
encouraging to you. 

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I believe today's going to be a 
special day. 

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I believe the guy wants to put 
life in the dry and dead bones 

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in Jesus name. 
I believe that he wants to put 

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streams in the middle of the 
wilderness, in the wasteland, 

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and so if you feel like that 
today, then you have come to the

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right place. 
In Jesus name. 

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Hello to you watching online. 
Wherever you're watching, you're

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in the right place too. 
If there's a local church near 

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you, get there. 
If you're near here, get here. 

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Love to have you with us. 
I want to tell you that in two 

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weeks we are going to be 
celebrating our 13th anniversary

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here at Illuminate Church. 
Blessed 13. 

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Yeah, Anniversary came about 
because we didn't know if it's 

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an anniversary or birthday. 
We didn't know what to call us. 

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It became an anniversary the 
first year and it just stuck and

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it's stuck ever since. 
And I have to explain it every 

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year. 
So there you go. 

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Anniversary, October 5th or 6th,
whatever. 

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That Sunday is the 5th and it's 
going to be a special time. 

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We have a guest coming from 
Africa who's going to be here 

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with us. 
We're going to preach kind of 

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together. 
You'll see it's a special 

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Sunday. 
We haven't had a Sunday like 

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this in a long time. 
And also the night before is our

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Dream Team weekend. 
The guy who wrote the last song,

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only Jesus that we just sang, 
his name's Martin Smith. 

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He's written so many songs that 
you sing that you don't even 

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know that he wrote. 
He will be here for our Dream 

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Team weekend, for our Dream Team
members on Saturday night. 

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It's going to be a special time 
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I'm looking forward to that 
wholeheartedly. 

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I wanted to mention last week 
just a little bit, if you didn't

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see it, I sent out a message. 
Anybody see the message that I 

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sent out on YouTube? 
It looks like this. 

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I'm wearing a red shirt. 
I got a big giant forehead and 

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the shirt makes me look fat. 
I don't know why, but there's 

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that. 
I was explaining why we did what

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we did last Sunday and why we 
had a normal service when the in

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the aftermath of what happened 
with Charlie Kirk and his 

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family. 
And there was some a concern 

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that we didn't spend enough time
or too much time, all these kind

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of thoughts going on. 
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speaks to us. 
We believe. 

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And he says like no matter what 
the problem is, the answer is 

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always going to be Jesus. 
So when people show up in droves

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and they showed up in droves, 
you all showed up in droves last

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week. 
The Holy Spirit said, just give 

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them what you normally give 
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And that is Jesus. 
And if I didn't connect the dots

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well for you last week, I 
apologize for that. 

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But that was our intent. 
Like, let's get in the house. 

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Let's acknowledge the grief and 
the pain and the various views 

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of which we are approaching 
Charlie Kirk's assassination, 

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and then let's center ourselves 
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Of Jesus by. 
Worshiping him and then getting 

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into the word that Pastor 
Valdemar so beautifully and 

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powerfully delivered. 
His name is Valdemar. 

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No more shame. 
Amen. 

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Hallelujah. 
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Praise God, and God certainly is
using what the enemy meant for 

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harm for good. 
I want to tell you that if you 

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still have lingering thoughts, 
need to process, just want to 

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pray for our nation, pray for 
yourself, pray for other 

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believers. 
We're going to be right in this 

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room Tuesday night from 6:30 to 
8:00, and we invite you all to 

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come. 
There may be 10 of us. 

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There may be 10,000 of us. 
I don't know if there's 10,000, 

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we're in trouble. 
There may be 1000 of us, so 

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please coming out a special time
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It's not a debate forum. 
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disagreements and what you see 
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There's going to be unity and 
some time to process what it is 

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we're thinking and feeling and 
ultimately submit that all under

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the headship of Jesus Christ and
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Amen. 
Tuesday night at 6:30. 

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You say it perfect. 
We had record attendance last 

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week other than Easter and 
Christmas, which means people 

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are looking for answers when 
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what we see. 
We should not see what we have 

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seen in the last. 
Really with not just Charlie, 

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but across our globe, it looks 
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It does not look like the order 
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And I want to show you like a 
video that one of our guys, 

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Garrett Harder took. 
He's one of our usher's a good 

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friend of mine. 
And he, he filmed just driving 

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into church. 
It's like, whoa, there's a lot, 

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a lot of people. 
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Yeah. 
And and then he like, here's the

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line coming in. 
Do you guys know this line? 

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Are you familiar with this line?
Isn't it great to have to wait 

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to get into church in Jesus 
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Is that a blessing? 
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It's so great to wait to get 
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OK, good. 
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church. 
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Now Garrett has five reels. 
The other four reels. 

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This is the fifth one, the 
highest grossing reel as terms 

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of views with 694 OK and most of
his reels, which is just the 

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other three, have an average of 
about 300 views for those reels.

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This reel of our church being 
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nearly 1 million views, which 
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enemy meant for harm and using 
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We weren't the only church 
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People are coming. 
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If you showed up last week 
because of what happened to 

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Charlie and if you showed up 
looking for answers and saying 

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there's something is not right 
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found in a church. 
So I'm going to go to this 

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church. 
Let me tell you, I'm so glad 

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you're here and I'm just a 
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I can only imagine what the Lord
our God thinks that you showed 

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up to His house to hear from Him
and His Word and to worship Him.

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And this is the counsel I give 
you this, the best counsel I can

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give you. 
If you're brand new in the last 

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couple weeks or if you've been 
here a long time, it doesn't 

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matter. 
Stick around. 

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Don't leave when the feelings 
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Don't leave when the new cycle 
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God drew you here in this time 
to capture your heart, and if 

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you will stick around, here's 
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The Lord Jesus will avail 
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Those who seek, find. 
So stick around and seek. 

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You will be. 
Found by Jesus, you will be 

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loved by Jesus, you will be 
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You're going to love your life 
with Jesus in it if you'll stick

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around. 
The world is starting to say you

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can do church out there, you 
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Well, the Lord himself says in 
Hebrews did not forsake the 

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gathering of the Saints, and 
you've made a good choice to be 

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here and to be a part of the 
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Amen. 
So look at your neighbors, say 

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stick around. 
Look at your other neighbors, 

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say stick around. 
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one you love second, by the way,
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You chose that other person 1st.
And if you are sticking around, 

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the best place to start is life 
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Life step one, if you haven't 
been, head to Connect Central 

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after this service is right out 
there in the lobby and they will

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help you get into life step one.
We have another one coming 

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October 5th, the same day as 
anniversary. 

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A one hour experience that can 
change all the rest of your 

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hours for the rest of your life.
Life step one, everybody clap 

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twice. 
All right, well, I'm glad you're

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here. 
Today we're in our series called

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Weeds in My Garden where we are 
getting honest about mental 

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health and bringing a light to 
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bring it to light. 
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darkness, the people struggling 
with mental illness stay in the 

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darkness and we want to be a 
church that brings it all to the

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light. 
Somebody say Amen. 

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When we began the series, I was 
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basically because you say, hey, 
we're going to do 12 weeks of 

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mental health. 
Will anybody be here at the end?

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Like, are you going to stick 
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Are you even going to show up? 
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10% growth in attendance and it 
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We've had at least 33 
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That doesn't even include last 
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the 9:00 AM service where a 
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hand for salvation. 
And here's what we've seen. 

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God has set people free of 
demonic oppression. 

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We have seen deliverance. 
We have. 

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Seen it? 
God is breaking chains for 

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people. 
And if you're still in the 

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middle of your journey, what 
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the middle. 
There is a way forward because 

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of Jesus. 
Amen. 

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Amen. 
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I thought we'd go down in 
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attendance, and it's just 
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Thank you for being here. 
Thank you for saying that this 

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matters. 
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here is inclined to this series.
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OK, some people need it, but I 
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I mean, I'm great. 
I don't, you know, and you don't

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mean that in a prideful way. 
You're just doing great in life 

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right now. 
Praise God, but you're still 

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here. 
And I want to say to you, thank 

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you for sticking around and 
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Well, One of the great signs of 
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you become others focused, you 
recognize that this service 

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isn't all about you. 
In fact, this entire service is 

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all about. 
Him. 

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And we get the byproduct of His 
presence here with us to help us

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in our lives. 
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And we don't worship ourselves. 
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It's a sanctuary, not an 
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So we're not here for a show. 
We're here to worship and to 

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receive from him. 
And so when you say it's not 

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about you and you hit sticking 
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All of us know somebody or will 
know somebody that we love and 

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care for that's going to 
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issue. 
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want you to be prepared to be a 
moment for them of light in the 

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darkness. 
I want you to be ready to love 

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and to lead them well. 
I want you to be prepared to 

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offer solid counsel to them, to 
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and most of all, to give them 
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This is not the end. 
There's more and you get a 

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chance to say that one of the 
things that we've done here with

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favorite things we've done here,
and you may not even know yet on

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your app, we have a resource 
page, the church Center app or 

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illuminate dot church. 
It looks like this. 

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If you open up your church app, 
you click on the weeds in my 

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garden like this, like that, and
then it's going to flip to that 

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screen just like that. 
And those are the series of the 

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rest of the messages that we're 
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And then beyond that are the 
resources videos. 

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There's 10 videos there by a 
professional licensed mental 

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health counselor, Christian 
dude, amazing. 

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Watch those 10 videos. 
And then you got the national 

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resources, the local resources, 
including our biblical 

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encouragers here, our freedom 
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You can pray. 
And then note this warning signs

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of suicide. 
We're going to talk about that 

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today. 
They're listed here. 

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And you'd be surprised. 
What's on the list of warning 

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signs that people that near 
suicide sometimes get very 

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joyful because they finally 
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and you think why they're doing 
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what's happening is they're 
giving you a sign and we need to

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pay. 
There's lots of signs that you 

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need to pay attention to them. 
All those resources are there on

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the app, Church Center app. 
If you need to download it, you 

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Well, today may very well be the
most difficult message that I 

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deliver all year long. 
I have been preparing for a 

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bunch of weeks on how best to 
deliver this message in both a 

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meaningful and a conscientious 
matter, because today here at 

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Illuminate Church, we're going 
to talk about suicide. 

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It's time to bring this into the
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Suicide is now the third leading
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young adults between 15 and 24. 
25% of adults between 18 and 24 

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reported having seriously 
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month, while 18% of high 
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considering suicide in the last 
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In 2024 in the United States of 
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homicides and there were 49,000 
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That means in the United States 
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as likely to die by suicide as 
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There's a suicide death in 
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There is one death for every 25 
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an attempted suicide every 27 
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That means from the moment that 
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ends about 45 ish or so minutes 
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Eight people in America will 
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And seven of them, that's what 
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To bring it closer to home, we 
did a survey right before the 

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series started of our church 
body, how are we doing in mental

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health? 
And we got all these responses 

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back. 
One out of every 20 people said 

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they are struggling with either 
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People here right now. 20% were 
in their teens, 30% were in 

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their 30s, and 30% were in their
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thinking about suicide or self 
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Even split between men and 
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true throughout the entire 
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the survey, it means about 100 
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sitting next to you or maybe 
sitting in your seat are 

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considering self harm are 
suicide they're silently 

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battling on Sunday mornings. 
Now there may be some of you 

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here that say I'm not suicidal, 
but I can tell you this, most 

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people who died by suicide were 
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point. 
Or maybe you think I'm not going

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to do that. 
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suicide were probably thinking 
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do that. 
Or you say that can never happen

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to me. 
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suicide, who at one point were 
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also said that I'm never going 
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So we need to pay attention. 
As I preach this, there are 

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three groups of people that I'm 
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First of all, I'm thinking about
those of you who are followers 

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of Jesus. 
You love God and you want to 

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help people because you love 
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You care deeply for the people 
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some of them are dealing with 
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You can. 
You can hear the darkness in 

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their words. 
You can see the pain written all

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over their face. 
You want to do something, but 

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you're not sure what to do. 
You want to say something, but 

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you're not sure what to say. 
You want to help, but you're not

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sure what help even. 
Looks like we're going to help 

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you today #2 I'm thinking about 
those of you who have lost a 

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loved one to suicide. 
Me too, A horrific pain. 

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Your heart isn't broken. 
Your heart is in pieces is 

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absolutely and utterly. 
Shattered. 

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You can't even begin to 
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experienced in the loss of your 
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the grief that comes in waves. 
Sometimes you'd be out somewhere

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and somebody has a mannerism 
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who died and it hits you. 
Sometimes they walk by somebody 

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and. 
They you just got the Cologne or

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the perfume and that's all it 
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Or their favorite season hits 
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Or their birthday comes. 
Or you walk down the hallway and

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there's their room, untouched. 
The heaviness. 

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You can also feel things like 
guilt and shame because you have

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a good day and you feel horrible
having a good day. 

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Also today I'm thinking about 
those of you. 

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Mostly I'm thinking about those 
of you who are right now self 

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harming or you inundated with 
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Your mother's. 
You are brothers. 

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You are fathers, your husbands, 
your daughters, you are sons, 

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your wives. 
And behind the smiles and behind

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the long showers, the never 
ending fatigue, there is this 

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endless erosion of hope 
happening in you. 

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And the thoughts that you have 
become whispers and the whispers

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become shouts. 
And then you pry to silence the 

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shouts and you cover your ears. 
But it only gets louder because 

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the shouts are coming from in 
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You can barely hear anything 
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So I want to address you who are
hurting like this with suicidal 

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thoughts or self harm and I want
to address you first and I want 

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to address you last. 
I want today to saturate your 

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soul. 
With truth, and I want you 

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church to, I don't know, affirm 
these statements. 

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Whatever comes out of your 
spirit, if it's a yes, if it's 

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an Amen, if it's clapping or 
whatever to encourage and 

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saturate the people around you 
who may be struggling. 

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First truth is this you listen 
to me. 

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You are the one and only. 
You there? 

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We say this about God. 
We say there's no one like you. 

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Guess what? 
It's true of you too. 

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There is no one. 
Like you, there is no one that 

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can replace you. 
You are irreplaceable. 

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Even if you're a twin, you're 
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There'll never be another you. 
It's you and you only You have 

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incredible value. 
To the Lord your God, somebody 

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say yes, extraordinary value. 
You are loved by the Father and 

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you are loved by us. 
Not only that, you are seen by 

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God. 
How do I know? 

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Because you're sitting in the 
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Would you believe? 
I believe this God loves you so 

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much that he designed this 
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Because he sees you. 
He sees your thoughts, He 

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understands the pain, and he's 
come to intervene in the middle 

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of the story and reverse the lie
of the devil that is trying to 

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destroy. 
Because he sees you, He sees. 

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You right here, right now, in 
this place. 

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You are loved by the Father and 
you are loved by us. 

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Lastly, you are not your 
thoughts. 

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Pastor Valdemar was teaching 
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When we hear these thoughts, we 
think they're ours, but it's the

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voice of the enemy. 
You are not bad. 

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You are not broken beyond the 
hair repair. 

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You are not meaningless or 
worthless. 

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You are a creation of the Lord 
our God, and He gifted you with 

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the breath of life. 
Hallelujah. 

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You are loved by the Father and 
you are loved by us. 

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I think I've told you before, 
but on Fridays I come in here 

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and there's nobody else here. 
The staff has Friday off mostly 

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and I sit. 
Right about where you are. 

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What's your name again? 
Julia? 

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You told me that before service 
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Forgive me. 
Thank you. 

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I sit where you are, Julie, and 
I read the word and I journal 

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some and then I pray. 
And when I normally pray, I just

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touch every single seat, all the
seats, even the seats up there 

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and the seat you're sitting over
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I see you. 
Hello. 

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But this Friday I got up to do 
that and I started walking 

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towards this aisle, these seats 
here where I normally start, and

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the Lord just had me come to 
this corner and I started just 

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walking laps, Just walking laps.
And I'm not getting exercise in.

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I'm praying. 
And I felt like what the Lord is

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saying is, I want to encircle 
you with my love. 

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I want to fully encircle you so 
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of my love. 
To completely embrace you with 

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my love. 
And as I'm praying, I got this 

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weird idea. 
Y'all, can we do this? 

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It's going to take some courage 
from you. 

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Can we do this? 
This is what I felt like the 

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Lord put on my heart. 
But there's somebody here right 

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now, many somebodies, lots of 
people who are in. 

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Desperate need to feel the love 
of God, the embrace of God. 

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I'll say it to you this way. 
Is there anyone here who could 

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use a hug? 
Here's what we're going to do. 

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I'm going to count to 3. 
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Lord? 
Allow us the body of Christ. 

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To be His body to you and 
embrace you in a holy embrace. 

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We could do this rightly, 
correct? 

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Correct. 
So if you need a hug, here's 

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what's going to happen. 
You're on a count of three. 

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You're going to stand up and 
just a second behind that, the 

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rest of the body without me even
telling them what to do, is 

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going to do what they know they 
should do. 

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If you need a hug from the Lord,
and you allow it to be us on the

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count of three, stand 123, come 
on. 

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Thank you. 
I know. 

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I know you needed one. 
I know he knows too, thank. 

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You, how are you? 
Love you brother. 

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Thank you did. 
Everyone get what they needed. 

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Did everyone get what they 
needed? 

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Praise the Lord, have a good 
Sunday. 

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Thank you, Rob. 
See you next week. 

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Let's talk about suicide. 
Let's peel back the curtain and 

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bring it into the light. 
Amen. 

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Is suicide in the Bible? 
The answer is yes. 

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I'm just going to answer some 
questions so that we're all 

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biblically equipped a little bit
brighter and can speak with 

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wisdom to the subject. 
Yes, it's in the Bible. 

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Depending on how many you count 
or how you count, there's either

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6 or 7 suicides in the Bible. 
You'll understand why one of 

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them is questionable here in a 
minute. 

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But the first is Abimelech in 
judges Chapter 9 who was an evil

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king. 
He burned down a temple and 1000

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people died. 
He goes to the next town to burn

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down a tower and a lady in the 
tower drops a giant rock on his 

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head. 
His head splits open and he's 

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going to die and he says to his 
armor bearer, I cannot be known 

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as a man who got killed by a 
woman, so run your sword through

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me and the armor bearer takes 
his life. 

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There was Samson and Judges 
chapter 16 and this is the one. 

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Some consider his act as a 
suicide, while others do not. 

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But he wished. 
To die with his enemies. 

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And so there in the temple, he 
pushed against the column, and 

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the temple came down and killed 
everybody in it, including 

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Samson. 
There was King Saul, the first 

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king of Israel. 
This is the one who brought 

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David into the palace. 
This is the one who led David 

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into the battle with Goliath. 
Saul was in a battle. 

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Pastor Valdemar talked about 
this last. 

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Week he got. 
Pierced with three arrows and 

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was about well he was very weak 
and so he said to his armor 

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bearer. 
Run me through with your sword. 

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The armor bearer refused, so 
Saul turned his sword around and

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he fell on his own sword. 
The next verse is armor bearer 

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seeing that Saul was dead, the 
king was dead, he himself fell 

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on his own sword and died with 
his king. 

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In Second Samuel chapter 17 
verse 23, there's a man that's a

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hard name to say. 
It's Apathofil. 

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He is one time a good friend and
companion of David, but his 

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relationship with David soured 
and Apathofil, that name became 

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friends with David's son 
Absalom, and the two of them 

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fought against David and it 
didn't go well for Apathofil. 

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He didn't feel like anyone was 
listening to him. 

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He went home, put his things in 
order in his house and he hung 

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himself. 
First Kings chapter 16. 

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An evil king named Zimri. 
He gets his way to power with 

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like deception and betrayal. 
All this terrible things. 

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Everything finally catches up to
him. 

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He goes into the palace, he 
lights it on fire and he 

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perishes within the fire. 
And then there's the most 

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famous. 
Suicide of all Judas. 

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Who betrayed Jesus? 
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morning, all the chief priests 
and the elders of the people 

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made their plans how to have 
Jesus executed. 

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So they bound him, led him away,
and handed him over to Pilate, 

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the governor. 
When Judas, who had betrayed 

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him, saw that he was condemned, 
he was seized with remorse and 

455
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,720
returned to the 30 pieces of 
silver to the chief priests and 

456
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,320
the elders. 
I have sinned, he said. 

457
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,160
For I have betrayed innocent 
blood. 

458
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:30,720
What is that to us? 
They replied. 

459
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,880
That's your problem. 
So Judas threw the money into 

460
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:40,040
the temple and left. 
Then he went away and hanged 

461
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,960
himself. 
I share these with you to 

462
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,840
explain to you that suicide is 
not a new problem. 

463
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,520
It's been haunting us, if you 
would, even in biblical times, 

464
00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:00,440
even with Jesus on the earth. 
Suicide. 

465
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:05,040
The word means to cut off the 
self. 

466
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,680
The side is the cut off. 
The sewer is the self. 

467
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,560
Pesticide, Cut off the pest, 
infanticide. 

468
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,760
Abortion. 
Cut off the baby. 

469
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080
Decide. 
Know what this word means? 

470
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240
When you decide you're not 
choosing for something, you're 

471
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,600
eliminating all other options. 
I'm cutting off every other 

472
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720
option so that when I marry my 
beautiful wife 27 years ago, 

473
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:39,600
last two Fridays ago, every 
other woman from then that 4th 

474
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,320
is dead to me. 
And I don't mean that in a weird

475
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,560
way. 
You're alive. 

476
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,160
Are you breathing? 
Yeah, but you're dead to me, so 

477
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,120
you know what I mean. 
To decide means to put all their

478
00:27:56,120 --> 00:28:01,840
options to death. 
Suicide, the cutting off of 

479
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,800
self. 
Is suicide a sin? 

480
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:10,120
The answer is yes, Exodus. 
Chapter 20, verse 13 You shall 

481
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:11,720
not murder. 
It's the six of the 10 

482
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,320
commandments. 
Suicide is self murder. 

483
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,360
We are told in the Psalms that 
God is the giver of life that 

484
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:20,920
comes from Him. 
Psalm 36, nine. 

485
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,280
For with you is the fountain of 
life. 

486
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,000
In your light we see light. 
We are also told in Job chapter 

487
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,440
14 that our days belong to the 
Lord. 

488
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,000
A person's days are determined 
you. 

489
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,120
This is God. 
You have decreed the numbers of 

490
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:37,440
his month and have set the 
limits he cannot exceed. 

491
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Suicide is against God's will 
because it robs us of our 

492
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,400
potential in Christ and it robs 
us of our participation in the 

493
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680
glorious mission of breaking 
forth the Kingdom on the earth. 

494
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,640
It cuts short the days that God 
has laid out for. 

495
00:28:53,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Us it is a sin, however is 
suicide and unforgivable sin. 

496
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,600
When I was in student ministry, 
about 10 years in the ministry, 

497
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,160
I went to seminary 2000 and. 6. 
11 years in, I guess Audrey had 

498
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:21,160
just been born. 
We of course we had Owen and I 

499
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,400
was driving down here to Orlando
because that is where my 

500
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,560
seminary was, Asbury Theological
Seminary, their main campuses in

501
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,240
Wilmore. 
You might have heard about them.

502
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,200
They had a revival last year on 
campus for like. 

503
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,960
Weeks and weeks I am. 
Sitting in a class, it's a small

504
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,680
campus, so you kind of know 
everybody. 

505
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,720
And an administrative guy point 
pokes his head in the door in 

506
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400
the middle of class and says, 
Tim, I need to see. 

507
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200
You. 
My first, I was like, did I not 

508
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,440
pay my tuition? 
And then my second thought was, 

509
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:56,440
did somebody in my family die? 
What's wrong? 

510
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Something's not right. 
I go out and in the hallway he 

511
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:00,600
says. 
We just. 

512
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,000
Got a call from your church? 
One of your students has killed 

513
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,800
himself. 
Sweet boy. 

514
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,240
A piano prodigy. 
I see his face right here. 

515
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,600
Some of you have gotten these 
calls. 

516
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,560
They said the family wants you 
to come to their house. 

517
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,880
I'm like, what? 
Me Like, what am I going to say?

518
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,880
I'm grieving myself. 
I love this kid. 

519
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Yeah, you need to. 
Go. 

520
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,920
I go until the class. 
The class prays. 

521
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,920
For me, I get in the car, in the
entire car ride, I'm praying, 

522
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Lord, I have no idea what to 
say, what to do. 

523
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,440
I'm grieving myself like I show 
up to the house. 

524
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,480
I. 
Remember sitting in the car and 

525
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,840
having like one of them talk to 
yourself most like you got. 

526
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,120
This ready Go go, go. 
Walk up the sidewalk, knocking 

527
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,560
the door. 
Dad answers the door. 

528
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,040
I've been praying this whole 
Time Lord tell me what to say 

529
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,560
and as soon as he opened the 
door I knew I was supposed to 

530
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:16,120
say nothing and just hold him 
and he and I embraced and then 

531
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,160
there was like a bunch of family
including his brother hugging. 

532
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,520
Nobody was talking for seemed 
seemed like a long time was. 

533
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,400
Probably like 3 minutes, we're 
just embracing going on the line

534
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,040
and I get to the end of the 
line. 

535
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:38,240
There's his Mama, her name is 
Mary and she's the first one 

536
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:47,200
that talks and she says barely a
whisper, it's my son in heaven 

537
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,000
and y'all God answered my prayer
in a powerful way. 

538
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,440
I felt it from my feet all the 
way up into my bosom and I just 

539
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,800
burst it forth with this 
righteous answer to her. 

540
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,120
And I said today your son met 
Jesus face to face. 

541
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,320
And as soon as the words came 
out of my mouth, she slumped 

542
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,920
into me with such force that we 
fell back onto the There was a 

543
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,160
couch right here. 
And I just sat down, plopped and

544
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,200
she rested upon me for like it. 
I think it was half an hour. 

545
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,000
And the entire time she's 
weeping. 

546
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,280
She wet my shirt with her tears.
This Mama thought there was a 

547
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,280
potential because somebody 
taught her bad theology that her

548
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:36,240
son was in hell. 
Is suicide an unforgivable sin? 

549
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:41,280
The answer is no. 
It is absolutely forgivable. 

550
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,520
And I am absolutely amazed at 
how well the lie has been 

551
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,040
perpetuated. 
That suicide sends you to hell 

552
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,560
if you're a believer. 
And I'm sorry that if you have 

553
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,640
been taught that, that somebody 
taught that to you. 

554
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,880
I can't imagine looking at a 
family. 

555
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,480
Who's trying to put all these 
pieces back together and 

556
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,480
somebody speaking something that
is so foreign to the biblical 

557
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,040
text and the gospel truth. 
The reason people sometimes. 

558
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,000
Say that suicide is unforgivable
is because you can't repent of 

559
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,200
the sin of suicide because 
you're dead. 

560
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Can I just say some truth to 
you? 

561
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,080
Nobody is saved. 
Based on their repentance of 

562
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:32,560
sins, no one. 
There are sins you commit every 

563
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,320
day that you don't repent of. 
Some of them you are aware of 

564
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,000
and some of them you are not 
aware of. 

565
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,000
We are not saved. 
Based on our last act, we are 

566
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:49,040
saved. 
By the blood of Jesus alone we 

567
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:54,360
are not saved by our sinless 
state by but however we are 

568
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,120
saved by a sinless Savior. 
Amen. 

569
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,320
That's what grace is. 
If you add anything to grace, 

570
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,600
it's no longer grace, even 
repentance. 

571
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,040
There is only one sin that is 
unforgivable. 

572
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,800
It's found in Matthew chapter 12
verse 3031. 

573
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,320
I start with and so I tell you, 
every kind of slander, every 

574
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,040
kind of sin and slander can be 
forgiven, but blasphemy against 

575
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,280
the Spirit will not be forgiven.
Anyone who speaks a word against

576
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,719
the Son of Man will be forgiven,
but anyone who speaks against 

577
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,120
the Holy Spirit will not be 
forgiven, either in this age or 

578
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,280
the age to come. 
What kind of sin can be 

579
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,159
forgiven? 
Daniela shown 31 again, what's 

580
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,920
it say? 
What's it say? 

581
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,880
Every kind of sin and suicide is
a kind of sin. 

582
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,400
It can be forgiven. 
What cannot be forgiven is this.

583
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,760
When the Holy Spirit comes to 
you and says, let me show you 

584
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,400
salvation in Jesus, let me woo 
you with grace and love and the 

585
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,560
majesty of the earth and the 
majesty of the church. 

586
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,280
When people are loving and 
living right, let me show you 

587
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,720
the kindness of God and here is 
Jesus. 

588
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,240
Receive Jesus as Savior and you 
say no. 

589
00:35:14,240 --> 00:35:18,640
Holy Spirit, I won't do that. 
And when you don't receive the 

590
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,720
work of the Holy Spirit, you 
don't receive Jesus. 

591
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:22,560
And Jesus is the one who 
forgives. 

592
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,440
And so there is no forgiveness 
for the one who hasn't received 

593
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:31,520
forgiveness in Jesus Christ. 
I'm going to give you a chance 

594
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,880
today, later, to receive that 
forgiveness if you never have. 

595
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Make today your day. 
Amen. 

596
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,680
What do I do if I know someone 
is struggling with suicidal 

597
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,280
thoughts? 
I want to give you biblical and 

598
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,560
practical. 
Can I give you both? 

599
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,440
Say yes. 
We've been saying this 

600
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,760
throughout the entire series. 
You want to love them the way 

601
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,400
that you would want to be loved.
Mark chapter 12 verse 3031. 

602
00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,120
Love your neighbor as yourself. 
Love them the way that you would

603
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,720
want to be loved. 
If you were struggling, if you 

604
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,320
had suicidal thoughts, if you 
were self harming, what would 

605
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,000
you want somebody to do and go 
do? 

606
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,840
That. 
Don't ask their permission. 

607
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,320
Go and do that. 
Go and be that. 

608
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,640
Be the all in friend. 
Be the I will go with you, Fred.

609
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,840
I will check you in. 
I'm going to make the call that 

610
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,640
you don't want me to make that 
I'm going to make it. 

611
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,960
You would rather make the call 
and offend them than to lose 

612
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,840
them. 
First John, chapter 318. 

613
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,880
Dear children, let us not love 
with words or speech, but with 

614
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:37,080
actions and in truth. 
Galatians chapter 6, verse 2. 

615
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,280
Carry each other's burdens. 
And in this way you fulfill the 

616
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,680
law of Christ. 
What's the law of Christ? 

617
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:50,280
Mark chapter 12, verse 31. 
Love your neighbor as yourself 

618
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,960
and right before it, love the 
Lord your God, love God, love 

619
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,880
people. 
When you carry one another's 

620
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,760
burdens, you fulfill this law. 
When somebody's hurting, when 

621
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,240
somebody's wrestling with 
suicidal thoughts and you love 

622
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,560
them and serve them instead of 
rejecting them and distancing 

623
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,720
from them because it's too much 
and too weird. 

624
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:16,240
And remember, it is not a sin to
be sick when somebody is. 

625
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,880
Suicidal is the last. 
Time to be judgmental. 

626
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,560
Meaning it's not the last That 
sounded weird. 

627
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,000
It's the worst time to be 
judgmental. 

628
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,160
They're in a fight for their 
life. 

629
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,280
There's many things arrayed 
against in the, most of which is

630
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,400
demonic activity seeking to 
destroy the very thing that God 

631
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,600
has given them, which is life. 
When you add to that potentially

632
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,760
chemical malfunctions going on 
in their body, situational 

633
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,880
trauma that's around them, or 
clinical diagnosis, all of this 

634
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,760
seems to crash in on them at 
once. 

635
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:54,000
So what do you do? 
You be a life buoy right in the 

636
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,920
middle of it. 
You give them something to hold 

637
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,440
on to, your stability in your 
faith in God and in His Word. 

638
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,600
Be near to them. 
Be a voice of hope. 

639
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,040
Be a voice of truth. 
Also take suicide seriously. 

640
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,040
Take suicide seriously. 
It is never a joke. 

641
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,400
It is always better to be safe 
than sorry when it involves 

642
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,840
suicide. 
The national suicide hotline 

643
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:26,280
number is 3 numbers 988 you say 
it 988. 

644
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,240
When you call 988 you will be 
directed. 

645
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,640
First you got to go through some
prompts, like are you a veteran?

646
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Do you need another language? 
And then you hang on the line 

647
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,760
and while you're waiting, what 
they're doing is they're routing

648
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,760
the call to Central Florida. 
If you were living in Minnesota,

649
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,520
they'd route it to Minnesota. 
They're trying to get you help 

650
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,040
near people around you so you 
can go and meet with them. 

651
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,600
What they really want to do when
you're on the phone line is stay

652
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,600
with you through the wave of 
whatever is happening to you or 

653
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,400
the person that you're with. 
Talk about suicide. 

654
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,520
It is a myth that talking about 
suicide with the person who's 

655
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,760
thinking of it will make them 
think about it more and want to 

656
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,280
do it. 
It's actually the opposite. 

657
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,560
Asking someone directly about 
their suicidal feelings will 

658
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,880
often lower their anxiety level 
and act as a deterrent. 

659
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,760
Why? 
Because your openness and 

660
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,440
concern and asking about suicide
allows them whoever's 

661
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,680
experienced the pain to begin 
the process it and speak about 

662
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,200
it out loud. 
It allows the person with 

663
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,520
suicidal thoughts to feel like 
I'm not alone, I'm not isolated.

664
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,320
And actually, they end up being 
a bit relieved because now 

665
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,040
they're not the only one 
carrying this big, dark, deep 

666
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,480
secret. 
You're carrying their burden. 

667
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,840
With them, you just showing up 
and asking sends a message. 

668
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Somebody cares for me, somebody 
loves me. 

669
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,640
If we hide from the subject of 
suicide, they will hide the 

670
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:58,080
subject of suicide from us until
it's to late. 

671
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,440
If you're going to talk about 
it, talk about it directly. 

672
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,320
When you notice the warning 
signs that you can see there on 

673
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,600
the app that I showed you 
earlier in the resource page, 

674
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,240
It's important to ask directly 
about suicide. 

675
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,160
Don't ask kind of vaguely. 
Are you thinking about hurting 

676
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,120
yourself? 
That's vague. 

677
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,600
Direct question is are. 
You thinking about killing 

678
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,280
yourself? 
Hey, I love you Kenny. 

679
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:25,840
Are you thinking about suicide? 
And once you've asked that 

680
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,240
question, you get the three kind
of famous questions that you 

681
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,360
hear people say you need to ask 
them. 

682
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,560
Have you thought about how you 
would kill yourself? 

683
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,320
Have you decided when you would 
do it? 

684
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,920
And have you done anything to 
get the things you need to kill 

685
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,720
yourself? 
Let me say it again. 

686
00:40:39,720 --> 00:40:41,720
Have you thought about how you 
would kill yourself? 

687
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,800
Have you decided when you would 
do it? 

688
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,240
And have you done anything to 
get the things you need to kill 

689
00:40:46,240 --> 00:40:48,000
yourself? 
If the answer is yes to any of 

690
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640
these questions, skip 988 and 
call 911. 

691
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,280
It's immediate intervention, 
don't let it linger when you 

692
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,120
call 911 asked to be. 
Sometimes the dispatcher will 

693
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,840
have the ability to connect you 
to a mental health crisis 

694
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,600
professional on the spot and 
then you. 

695
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,360
Stay with the person, whether 
they're on the phone, whether 

696
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,320
they're next to you. 
Stay with the person until the 

697
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,760
wave passes. 
We're going to talk more about 

698
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,920
in a second, What do you do if 
you've lost someone to suicide? 

699
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,200
I want you to remember that God 
knows what it's like to lose a 

700
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:29,080
loved one deeply, personally, 
he's been through the pain. 

701
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,920
He knows the pain of death and 
he especially understands the 

702
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,680
pain of a life cut. 
Short. 

703
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,720
But the Lord our. 
God also knows the beauty of the

704
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:45,320
resurrection. 
And we need to start align in 

705
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,760
our hearts with Him. 
Remember that God is close. 

706
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Psalm 3418. 
The Lord is close to the broken 

707
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,440
hearted and saves those who are 
crushed in spirit. 

708
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,160
I cannot think of a more broken 
hearted or crushed in spirit 

709
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,600
circumstance than coming home to
a letter getting the phone. 

710
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:11,120
Call or finding the body. 
Wow, God is close to you. 

711
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,800
And his strength is going to get
you through. 

712
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,640
I also may ask you to release 
any guilt or shame that you 

713
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,080
carry. 
Maybe you've heard these words 

714
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:21,720
before, but receive them into 
your spirit. 

715
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:25,040
What happened was not your 
fault. 

716
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,080
Any guilt or shame that you feel
doesn't come from God. 

717
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,400
Rather, it comes from the devil 
who's trying to use the horrific

718
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,120
choice of your loved one and the
horrifying pain that you feel to

719
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:40,360
continue to devour you, to 
isolate you, to rob from you, 

720
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,360
your purpose, to rob from you, 
your future, and make you sit in

721
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,200
this pain. 
As if it. 

722
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,880
Was your fault You did what you 
thought was best. 

723
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
If you knew then what you know 
now, of course, you might have 

724
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,480
done things differently. 
But you didn't know then what 

725
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:02,480
you now know. 
I pray Proverbs 3 five and six 

726
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,160
is helpful to you today. 
Trust in the Lord with all your 

727
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,840
heart. 
Now watch this. 

728
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,360
Do not lean on your own 
understanding. 

729
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,880
You know that when some trauma 
hits you, your brain is not 

730
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,520
working right. 
Your emotions are trying. 

731
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,240
To fool you. 
And the devil gets into that 

732
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:24,400
space and tries to get you to do
wicked things to medicate you 

733
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,520
from the pain. 
Verse 6. 

734
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,920
Rather, here's the better option
in all your ways. 

735
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,120
Acknowledge him, and he alone 
will make. 

736
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Your path straight. 
If you've lost the love in the 

737
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,000
suicide, you're in a horrible 
spot. 

738
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,560
It's gut wrenching. 
It's life altering and you 

739
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,240
cannot rely on your own feelings
in the middle and you cannot 

740
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:51,280
rely on your own strength to get
you through. 

741
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:55,280
You're going to need, we all 
going to need to fully trust in 

742
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,960
the strength of God, the 
strength of His word, and the 

743
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,880
power of the Spirit to pull us 
through. 

744
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,640
Otherwise, we make decisions 
that only make the matters 

745
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,280
worse. 
A suicide in a family can 

746
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:13,720
potentially turn into divorce or
financial problems or addictions

747
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,320
or relationship woes. 
With all your friends and family

748
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,200
in the middle of this journey, 
the valley you find yourself and

749
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,560
remember what Jesus promised 
that I will walk you through. 

750
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,520
The Good Shepherd walks you 
through Don't put up furniture 

751
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,320
in the valley. 
Don't put up artwork in the 

752
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,640
valley. 
This is not your home. 

753
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,440
Walk through and He'll lead you.
I believe that we serve a God 

754
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,880
who loves you, who cares for you
and has a purpose for you. 

755
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,320
I believe that we serve a God 
who can bring beauty out of the 

756
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,200
ashes and strength from 
weakness. 

757
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,560
I believe that we serve a God 
who makes all things beautiful 

758
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,000
in His timing. 
I'm not asking you to forget the

759
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,160
person, or to stop mourning or 
last, or to stop hurting in 

760
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,880
their absence. 
I'm asking you. 

761
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,240
To stop carrying the guilt and 
the shame that Satan is trying 

762
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:08,280
to put on you to expand his 
already heavy toll. 

763
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,720
Lastly, let's talk to the people
who are in the room. 

764
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:18,880
What do I do if I'm struggling 
with self harm or suicidal 

765
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,080
thoughts? 
Full stop. 

766
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:27,640
Call 988. 
Like that as soon as the 

767
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,920
thoughts start. 
Don't let the thoughts take root

768
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,960
and go deep. 
Call 988. 

769
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,200
It's an intervention moment. 
You're giving space for a person

770
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,080
to talk to you while this thing 
passes. 

771
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,000
Or run to the church. 
Drive here, get here and we will

772
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,840
sit with you. 
Till it passes, but sometimes 

773
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,880
it's 2:00 in the morning. 
That's why I'm telling you 98898

774
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,120
is always up. 
So is the Lord your God. 

775
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,280
Maybe pray and then 988. 
OK, can we put the two together?

776
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Two things. 
Understand the trick of the 

777
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,640
enemy. 
Hear me very clearly. 

778
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,480
Let this soak into your brain. 
The devil is trying to kill you 

779
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,840
himself. 
From the very beginning, his job

780
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,880
description has been to steal, 
kill and destroy. 

781
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,440
The killing is of your body. 
He's lying to you. 

782
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,440
It's a scheme of the wicked, one
of the most disastrous of forms.

783
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,160
He wants to take away all the 
promise of who you are and who 

784
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,360
you can be. 
When we lose someone to suicide,

785
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,640
we don't just lose a person. 
We lose the potential of 

786
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,400
everything that was supposed to 
come after. 

787
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,640
And this is what the the enemy's
trying to steal. 

788
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,680
All the potential of what's to 
come, all the beauty, The 

789
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,320
Walking down the aisle, the 
holding of hands with your 

790
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,960
children, all, I mean, we could 
just make a long list here. 

791
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,640
All of this is what the enemy is
trying to steal. 

792
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,480
And at some point we're like, 
wait a second. 

793
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,240
I'm not falling for this trick. 
I will not allow him to steal 

794
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,960
this from me or from the people 
that I love. 

795
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,600
Remember some of these famous 
words. 

796
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,520
You've heard this before, but 
suicide is a permanent solution 

797
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:24,560
to a temporary problem. 
Rick Warren who is a kind of a 

798
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,480
famous pastor with the purpose 
driven life, incredible great 

799
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:33,120
man, very loving man. 
His son died in suicide and he 

800
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,560
says this. 
Most people don't want to die, 

801
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,160
they just want out of their 
pain. 

802
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,320
And I'm here to tell you, you do
not have to end your life to end

803
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,240
your pain. 
There is another way, there is 

804
00:47:48,240 --> 00:47:52,480
another truth, and there is 
another life in Jesus name. 

805
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,400
I think you know this, but 
emotions don't last forever. 

806
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,360
I found this out in my battle 
with anxiety. 

807
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:05,800
About two years in. 
I realized that the anxiety 

808
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,960
would come and go. 
And then I began to realize 

809
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:14,680
like, oh wait, if I just outlast
the anxiety and endure, I'll be 

810
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,880
all right. 
So it hit me and I'm like, it's 

811
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,520
going to go away. 
I know it's going to go away. 

812
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,440
In Jesus name, it's going away 
and all the chemicals that get 

813
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,680
dumped in your body, whether 
it's depression, anxiety and all

814
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,800
this, all this stuff, the body 
reabsorbs them and the Spirit of

815
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,480
God comes and ministers peace 
and all of a sudden you've made 

816
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,680
it through. 
And the more you learn to endure

817
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,720
and make it past the wave, the 
more the waves seem to get 

818
00:48:37,720 --> 00:48:41,560
smaller and smaller and smaller 
until they're just waves lapping

819
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,320
at your feet, trying to get your
attention, occasionally building

820
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,360
up this big tidal wave like. 
Uh huh. 

821
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:55,320
No way this will pass when it 
hits you. 

822
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Make sure that you say I know 
this is a scheme of the enemy 

823
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,880
and it will pass. 
Here's the last thing. 

824
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,520
Understand the victory of the 
Savior. 

825
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,360
Hear me clearly. 
The one who is in the heart of 

826
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:14,160
the believer is far greater, 
supersedes the one that is in 

827
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,560
the world far and above. 
It's not even a close match. 

828
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,040
It's like comparing the size of 
a mosquito to the size of the 

829
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,560
universe. 
Greater is the one that is in 

830
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,840
the heart of the believer than 
the one who's in the world. 

831
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,240
Greater is the Holy Spirit in 
you than the enemy who's trying 

832
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:33,840
to devour you. 
Right after we learned of the 

833
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,760
devil's job description, the 
very next verse his job. 

834
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,280
Description is steal, kill and 
destroy. 

835
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,120
Jesus gives us his job 
description. 

836
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,440
He says I have come to the earth
to give them life and to give it

837
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,960
to them in the full, and the 
devil is trying to steal the 

838
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:54,280
gift of life that God himself in
Jesus Christ has given you. 

839
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,520
So let's make a declaration 
today. 

840
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,280
Would you sit up a little 
straight in your seat? 

841
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,640
Would you make your back 
straight? 

842
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,680
Would you make your spirit in 
agreement with your heart and 

843
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,080
your mind and repeat these words
after me saying Devil in the 

844
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:19,120
name of Jesus, My life is a gift
from God and I'm going to live 

845
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:24,840
it. 
Devil in the name of Jesus, my 

846
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:31,520
life is a gift from God and I'm 
going to live it to the full. 

847
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:38,240
Close your eyes please, one more
time now mean it in your spirit 

848
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:44,440
to yourself saying devil, my 
life is a gift from God. 

849
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,240
Get your hands off me In the 
name of Jesus. 

850
00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:01,690
Thank you, Father, Father, in 
the name of Jesus. 

851
00:51:01,690 --> 00:51:08,610
May this be the last day that we
think about suicide, the last 

852
00:51:08,610 --> 00:51:12,970
time we entertained the 
temptation to take what you have

853
00:51:12,970 --> 00:51:16,290
given. 
Thank you for your victory over 

854
00:51:16,290 --> 00:51:19,010
the enemy. 
If you're here today, I want you

855
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:21,720
to know. 
That Jesus is the only permanent

856
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,880
solution to all of our problems.
Romans chapter 10 says that if 

857
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,240
you believe in your heart and 
confess with your mouth that 

858
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,440
Jesus is Lord, you will be 
saved. 

859
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,400
Hallelujah. 
As you have your eyes closed and

860
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,120
your heads bowed, I want you 
just consider. 

861
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,920
Have I ever confessed him as 
Lord? 

862
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,720
Have I ever been saved by faith 
in Jesus Christ? 

863
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,800
Let's make a good confession. 
The entire church here praying. 

864
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,000
If you're online, pray this at 
home in your room. 

865
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,120
They're saying these words, 
Father, come a whole church. 

866
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:58,560
Father, in the name of Jesus, I 
recognize that I am a Sinner in 

867
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,680
need. 
Of a savior. 

868
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:07,000
And I confess and I believe that
Jesus is that Savior, and I 

869
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,720
receive you into my heart today.
Come and live your life. 

870
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,920
Through me, Yeah. 
Just as you're there praying. 

871
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Make that personal. 
Yes, God, I believe I'm crossing

872
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:30,160
the line of faith. 
It's by faith that we are saved.

873
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,520
If you pray that prayer for the 
first time today, I'm going to 

874
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,480
ask you to do one thing and one 
thing only, very boldly, just in

875
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,080
the same way that Jesus boldly 
went to the cross for you. 

876
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:44,800
I'm going to count to 3 and if 
you prayed that prayer to 

877
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,120
receive Jesus as Savior for the 
first time today when I hit 

878
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,440
three, you're going to throw 
your arm up in the air as high 

879
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:54,400
as it can go and hold it there 
for a few moments so that we 

880
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,480
might bring you a gift. 
You need this gift on the count 

881
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,640
of three. 
If you prayed that prayer for 

882
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
the first time, raise your hand 
one. 2. 

883
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,800
Three in the mezzanine on the 
floor online. 

884
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,800
If you're raising your hand, 
just keep them nice and high. 

885
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,080
We see you we're going to bring 
something to you. 

886
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160
Praise God. 
It's just going to take a minute

887
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:15,000
because they're walking around. 
Come on. 

888
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,160
Did we get everyone in the back 
there? 

889
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,760
We got some on the side. 
Way over here. 

890
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,720
Way over here. 
Javier, you see? 

891
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,160
Yeah. 
You got to figure that out. 

892
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,640
Any others up in the mezzanine? 
Are we good? 

893
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,880
OK, we got you. 
Well done. 

894
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:38,040
Did we get you? 
Praise God how He loves you. 

895
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,400
Now would you rise? 
Everybody, everyone stand. 

896
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,400
If we missed you, I pray we 
didn't miss you. 

897
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,360
That's all I'm going to say. 
Here's what I want to close. 

898
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,000
I'm going to tell you before the
prayer ministers come. 

899
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:03,360
The altar is right now open. 
And if anything in this power 

900
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:07,200
that we spent with the Lord has 
moved in your spirit, I want you

901
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,640
to come forward to the altar. 
There's not an actual altar 

902
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,000
here. 
That's an altar of a meeting 

903
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000
with the Lord. 
And I want you to come and just 

904
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,320
be present with the Lord. 
No prayer, ministers. 

905
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,440
Just you hearing from God 
himself, him to love on you. 

906
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,000
And so if that's you today, 
somebody's going to be the bold 

907
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,600
first one and come. 
And once one comes, the door of 

908
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,640
faith opens and other people 
come because courage is at least

909
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,320
in the house. 
If you're in the mezzanine, get 

910
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,400
all the way down here. 
We got space for you. 

911
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,720
Anything that you need. 
Your heart is broken over 

912
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:37,720
suicide. 
You're thinking about suicide. 

913
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,200
You've lost somebody to suicide 
or you got a hard week at work. 

914
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,160
You lost your job. 
If your marriage is in trouble, 

915
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,320
the altar is open it. 
Here's what I'm saying to you. 

916
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,240
There's a gigantic buffet of 
grace and goodness up here. 

917
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,800
Why not come and eat and see 
what the Lord has for you? 

918
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,600
So that's you. 
Come now, come now, I'm not 

919
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,040
manipulating you, I'm 
encouraging you with all my 

920
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,840
might. 
Don't waste what the Lord has 

921
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,080
prepared for. 
You come now. 

922
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,360
It's if it's on your heart to 
move, just move. 

923
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,120
Don't be afraid. 
This is a House of faith. 

924
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,280
Come now, Mezzanine. 
I'm still waiting for one of 

925
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:11,720
you. 
Here you come. 

926
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:12,920
Are you coming? 
I see you. 

927
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,360
Come on. 
I knew you were coming. 

928
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:21,080
Who else? 
Come on, if you need somebody to

929
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,520
go with you, grab them. 
You're like, I can't go by 

930
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,640
myself, just grab them. 
Here comes the whole family. 

931
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:32,720
Come on, I rejoice. 
Hallelujah indeed. 

932
00:55:44,660 --> 00:55:49,140
Come on, bring your baby to the 
altar. 

933
00:55:50,280 --> 00:56:00,090
It's a blessed baby. 
I'm going to be quiet for a 

934
00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:05,210
minute because I don't want any 
human to intervene. 

935
00:56:06,490 --> 00:56:10,490
I want you to hear from the Lord
and make the exchange. 

936
00:56:11,570 --> 00:56:19,410
Ashes for beauty, mourning for 
the oil of gladness, rags for 

937
00:56:19,410 --> 00:56:22,570
crowns. 
It's a swap meet of God. 

938
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:28,880
Make the exchange. 
Thanks for joining us today. 

939
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,920
We hope God is speaking to your 
heart through this message. 

940
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,920
If you'd like to connect with 
us, you can text connect to 

941
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:41,440
407-588-0115 or visit Illuminate
dot church. 

942
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,160
Have a great week.
