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June 8th. 
I'm Chris Chavez, joined by 

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Preet Majithia and Mack Fleet. 
We've got lots of action to 

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unpack in today's episode 'cause
we had Rome and Stockholm the 

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past few days. 
Best week of track and field 

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that we've had this season so 
far. 

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Lots of shock. 
So let's get into it. 

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I guess I want to start off with
Not the American at Cooper 

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Lichen House, which is maybe I 
think we thought, all right, 

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Chris is going to go American 
first. 

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No. 
Audrey Wearo shocks Kelly 

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Hodgkinson. 
So Audrey Wearo ran 15398 to win

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the Stockholm Diamond League 
women's 800, becoming the third 

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fastest woman in history. 
Only a third woman under 154 

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beats the Olympic champion Kelly
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in 15433. 
That was a personal best and a 

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British record, but not enough 
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Some historical context on that 
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The only two women who have run 
faster, Jermilia Crouch with the

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Volova who ran 153.28 back in 
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there's a Renko who ran 15343 
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Nineteen 80, both from countries
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from the peak of the state 
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era. 
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where O's performance on Sunday 
and believe that it is the clean

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world record. 
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withstood the test of time in 
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And that is still what is at the
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time list. 
So we have to operate by that is

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what the world record is. 
And so that is what Keely's been

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after vocally in this season. 
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them ever served any sort of 
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people look to those times with 
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And then now behind wear. 
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guess Caster Semenya, Pamela 
Jolimo still ahead of Hodgkinson

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So this was just a really all 
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A bit surprising for folks 
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took off of her personal best. 
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blast re watching this race a 
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And I think what brought joy to 
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remember this during the indoor 
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after, you know, I think it was 
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record attempt. 
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like people shouldn't just like,
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get behind the pacer. 
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banging on, especially for Weara
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because you are just as talented
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that record. 
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season, she wasn't anywhere as 
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Brilliant race. 
I guess we'll start with Pre 

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Pre. 
What were your sort of big 

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takeaways from Audrey Burrows 
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So I was watching this in a 
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So I was trying to be quiet. 
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to sleep and whatever around 
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For the record, you are OK. 
You're, you're. 

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You're. 
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Yeah, with with a family member,
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this in the hospital and I was 
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obviously be in Stockholm and, 
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plan, unfortunately, which I'm 
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but you know, the yeah, I 
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out a gasp of shock and my dad 
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Like why you like. 
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mean the race kind of played out
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have expected. 
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technically superior 400 metre 
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She always goes out hard in 
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And although we know from Rome 
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trying to work on her 400 metre 
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about the fact that they are 
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seeing in practice. 
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good. 
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sub 50.5 is what they were going
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Obviously it's not quite what 
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they've been working on that. 
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from a while ago is 51 O 3. 
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She got out in front behind the 
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Keely went at 400, overtook 
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Audrey Wehro slowed down and she
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between 400 and 600, so she sat 
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again and absolutely blew the 
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particularly the last 100 where 
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and that turn of pace was 
incredible to see and she was 

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shocked at the time when she saw
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I just think, look, I think it 
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watched Audrey Warrow race, 
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potentially capable of something
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And just having Keely as a pacer
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you know, from 400 to to just 
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Like, that meant that it set up 
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by Keely in that last last 100. 
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contest. 
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Like she set her stall out. 
She went for it and she still 

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got APB in her first outdoor 
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She still broke the national 
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She still went sixth all time in
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performances. 
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clearly she was not expecting 
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world record, Audrey Wearro just
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She was not expecting Audrey 
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that. 
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for a bit, but she certainly 
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to hang on all the way till the 
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And I think she said very 
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Audrey Mary had that kind of 
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a different strategy. 
And I think we saw this a couple

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of years ago with Mary Mara, 
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Mara in Budapest in 2024. 
She raised Mary Mara a whole 

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bunch of times and figured out 
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ignore, started to ignore her 
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race and and won in Paris. 
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forgotten that lesson back in 
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Mariah's random tactics again. 
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this is maybe the thing right 
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strategy and with Keely, it's a 
particular exact pace, a 

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particular way of running the 
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the race. 
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versatile as some other athletes
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way. 
Her best race is 1 particular 

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way of running it. 
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that to perfection each time. 
So look, I think she will learn.

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But at the same time, Audrey 
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and and just absolutely 
brilliant. 

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Yeah, so here's the thing that I
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watching the broadcast was 
everyone making excuses for why 

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Keely lost this race. 
Audrey Werro is very, very good.

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And I think like a lot of 
people, you, you Google Audrey 

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Werro today, every single 
headline focuses on Keely 

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Hodgkinson. 
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Olympic champion and she is the 
more popular name, especially 

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because a lot of this coverage 
is being driven by British 

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press, BBC, all that kind of 
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But I do think she deserves a 
lot more credit for running the 

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smarter race on the day that 
backing off in that 3rd 200 was 

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the right move. 
And it's something that I think 

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at this point, forcing Keely to 
kick has not gone as well for 

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Keely in the last couple years. 
And so now it's sort of like you

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said, you're sort of the the 
Mary Mora method of of trying of

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how she runs the 800 was played 
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So This is why I kind of I 
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because I was texting him about 
the tactical side of things 

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because everyone I think like 
what traditionally right when 

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the advice is really don't fall 
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stretch in an 800 Mac like. 
But here Audrey Wearo did the 

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opposite where she was, you 
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off for a bit and saves some to 
kick while targeting Keely. 

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Like, what is it that you saw 
that Audrey Wearo did right in 

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the tactical execution of this 
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I I think watching Audrey Wearo 
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runs, she's incredibly patient. 
Like you don't really see her 

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make really dramatic moves. 
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almost into like what pre 
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someone like Mary Murat. 
Keely tends to make like these 

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big dramatic moves to get by 
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so difficult to, to, to get 
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And I think that's usually when 
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down the home stretches when she
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fast first lap to get by someone
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backstretch. 
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to go, That's like anytime you 
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a really strong move around 
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kind of come back to bite her 
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So yeah, for for Audrey, where 
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She was, I think was just 
incredibly patient. 

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I think if you were to look at 
her robot win a couple weeks 

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ago, she was just absolutely 
dominant over the final hundred.

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And that's where you saw, yeah, 
it was a slower race that came 

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through in 57 and the field 
bunched up behind her at like 

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1:20 to go. 
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clear of of the rest of the 
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So I think, yeah, you you can't 
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like, yeah, she's going to run 
153 high, you know, next time 

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out in Stockholm. 
Certainly not. 

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And if we look at the all time 
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either 8 and O or 12 and O Keely
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So yeah, Keely has every right 
to be pissed. 

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Like she expects to beat RG 
Werro every single time out 

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because she's done that 
previously. 

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So like Keely's going to be 
pissed no matter what. 

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And I totally respect that. 
She's an absolute dog and a 

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competitor and I I love that. 
What irked me was I don't know 

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if it was Steve or or Tim at the
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That was like making excuses 
seconds after like one of the 

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best 800 meter performances 
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And just like kind of 
discrediting Audrey's just 

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absolute like star of a 
performance and both of both of 

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their performances like they're 
they're on top 10, all top five,

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top ten all time lists. 
And in order for them to break 

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the world record, the out this 
outdoor one, which is a little 

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sketchy, they're going to need 
each other. 

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I feel like they're in whether 
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They need like they need this 
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they're both there and it's 
almost like a race to see who 

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can break it first. 
Now this is like back in the old

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Steve Ovett sub code days where 
they're who's going to break the

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800 meter world record. 
Yeah, and, and the the good 

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thing is it's like now 
everyone's attention is going to

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be on London in on July 18th. 
I think pre pre classic will be 

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a fast one. 
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both Keely and Georgia Hunter 
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London Diamond League in Eugene.
You'll have Keely, Lillian, 

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Odira and Georgia Hunter Bell in
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I think. 
George Weiro. 

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I think so. 
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I'm pulling it up right now so. 

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She's going to Estrava and then 
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Championships and she is in. 
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Paris Diamond League. 
Paris Diamond League? 

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Sorry, yes, and then she will. 
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home meet, it's going to be set 
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the world record I have. 
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want her added to London. 
Like is, is this really going to

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Because it it, you know, I think
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spoiling the storyline that they
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I suspect if she was going to be
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she will no longer be in the 
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Whereas I think because I 
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pretty likely because she was in
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world indoor record. 
She was in this race like they 

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didn't like it wasn't a match up
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or Lily Nadira or George unto 
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So I think, yeah, there's every 
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they need each other. 
Like you need a pacer from 400 

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to 700. 
Whoever's going to break that 

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world record actually needs a 
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And to be honest, there probably
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that can do that at that pace. 
I don't think you need that. 

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I mean, we Rhodesia didn't need 
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I you don't, I don't. 
I don't try. 

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To beat a doped up world record,
aren't they? 

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Well, it's a bit trickier. 
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there, but I don't I, I, you 
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I hate these paced races, but I 

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think more so they just it's 
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RJ Weiro there and like she ran 
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to break her over that those 
final 300 meters. 

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Like just as that's just as much
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It's not like it's not about 
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It's it's like it's more fitness
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So I don't know, like I, I think
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each other, but it's it's I 
don't know. 

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I I want to see it in actual 
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that's the case, then let's do a
faith Kippy. 

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I gone breaking, you know, 
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let's make a whole thing out of 
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I would love to see this in an 
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where the. 
European Champs. 

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European champs that would like 
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we all know my feelings about 
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I absolutely hate them, like 
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But yeah, no, like to see both 
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We're just so fortunate, 
especially after, you know, we 

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all kind of expected a thing 
mode to kind of be Keely's 

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counterpart here, like in this 
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least, you know, rising on the 
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And that hasn't really come to 
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So it's just really cool that we
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Werro to push Keely and Keely to
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So going back to the point of 

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just sort of, I don't want to 
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great race. 
It was just sort. 

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Of yeah. 
And so she has nothing really to

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aside from the fact of getting 
beat, there's little she could 

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hang her head on. 
She's coming off a week where 

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she said a 400 personal vest and
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And like, for the point where 
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good sign, especially if London 
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Like the lights for this one 
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It wasn't set for the world 
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So she's right on track with 
where she would like to be at 

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this point of season. 
And like, the way she executed 

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it is like all according to the 
scouting report she probably had

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beforehand, right? 
Like when you looked on paper, 

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just sort of, and you saw Werro 
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you beat her handily at the 
World Indoor Championships. 

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Like the move she made makes 
sense it. 

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Works every other time. 
Exactly. 

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And it so it's like you, you 
can't race against information 

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that you don't necessarily have.
And so now she has more 

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information for the next go 
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I am really curious, sorry I 
I've just quick. 

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I am really excited to watch 
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will do something differently. 
I am curious if she the she lets

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Werro try to run out that 3rd 
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control of the race early and 
just dictates pace from the 

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front. 
I mean she is most successful 

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when dictating from the front. 
I would say we can agree on but 

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when you have someone that says 
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of changes the the game a little
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Yeah, I mean, where is a serial 
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She loves running from the 
front. 

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So I suspect now because she 
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happened with the world indoor 
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successful, but they didn't run 
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where I was in front of Keely, 
but she started to slow after 

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400, right? 
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them because they lost what they
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for Keely going around her. 
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that the same thing would be 
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So that was why Keely made the 
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Whilst I think next time they 
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going. 
So Keely will just sit on her 

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and then go the moment she feels
it's slowing, but leave it 

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later. 
But I think also, if you think 

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about it, absent, we're in this 
race if we're just hadn't been 

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in this race. 
Keely would probably have run a 

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very similar time and we'd have 
been raving about it because the

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reality is Keely would have sat 
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Pacer drops out, Keely goes to 
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And that's kind of the same as 
not vastly different what 

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happened. 
And she probably would have run 

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a pretty similar time, I suspect
so. 

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And we'd be having a very 
different conversation right now

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saying Keely's right on track, 
blah, blah, blah. 

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So yes, I think there are two 
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And we will probably see more 
out of Keely in the next two 

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races. 
But yes, she's also not 

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invincible and she's going. 
To which is great. 

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Yeah, I also don't for the plot.
I don't think anyone's saying 

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that Keely's off track. 
She just ran a personal best. 

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I also don't like this is like 
the like we can make the same 

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argument. 
I think we're all runs a very 

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similar time without Keely in 
that race because she was 

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leading at 400. 
Like she didn't, she's not 

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running 3 seconds slower because
if Keely's not in there. 

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So, but I mean, this is all like
what ifs at this point. 

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Like what happened, happened. 
They were in the race together 

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and that's what happened. 
That's why I'm so that's why I 

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want to see him race again. 
I hope, I hope where I was in in

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London. 
I hope so too. 

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I it's, it's just sort of we 
want more of these head to heads

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rather than like, Oh no, we're 
just going to not let her in 

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because we want Keely to break 
the record 1st and then just 

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make it harder for wear out in 
Lausanne later on in the year. 

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Like this event got 10 times 
more interesting now. 

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Instantly. 
Yeah. 

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The other thing I guess Mac, you
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was something that was I think 
also in the, the the announcers 

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are saying about this whole 
like, oh, Keely's not in 800 

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meter shape right now. 
She was so focused on the 400. 

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It's like, no, actually like 
that 51 lines up very well for 

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like what we saw in his 800. 
Yeah, I think a slight, Yeah, I 

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don't, I like this is tough 
because we, regardless of what 

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the camp say, you don't actually
know what's happening. 

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Like we have, we have zero clue.
Everyone lies all of the time. 

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But like what doesn't lie are 
the results that you see. 

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And I think like a little PB in 
the 400, she didn't run 49 high,

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which is or 50 low, which is 
what they were targeting. 

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I think if she would have run 49
high or 50, oh, and then she 

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came out and ran like a 155. 
Oh, I would have been like, oh, 

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she really was training for the 
400. 

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Yeah, but like the little PB in 
the four going right into APB 

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and the 8 is indicative to me 
that like you're in great 800 

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meter shape. 
That's what like in like you 

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just ran a top ten all time 800 
meter time. 

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That's not saying that she's not
going to get faster. 

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Like I think both of them are 
going to get faster this season.

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I hope so. 
But yeah, it's just like when 

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it's when you're 25 to 30 
seconds after watching that 

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you're a commentator and you're 
like immediately saying, oh, 

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like she hasn't been doing speed
work, but she's been training 

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for the 400. 
That's why she lost today, even 

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though she ran a personal best 
and she's one of the fastest 

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ever. 
That just was like, it just, it 

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took the IT took the good vibes 
out of the race that we had just

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watched. 
Me for me. 

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A question I guess I posed in my
text with Mac, but maybe I'm 

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curious to hear pre your 
thoughts, both of you. 

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I guess what is the best 
tactical race that you've seen 

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Keeley Hodgkinson run outside of
like the Olympics, the Olympic 

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final? 
Because now here's the thing. 

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It's sort of like she tends to 
thrive in more of those paced 

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set up race. 
The races where the moments in 

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which the tactics start to go a 
little bit sideways, that's 

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where we see a thing MO of 
beating her in the past. 

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It's where we've seen Mary Moira
beat her in the past. 

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Lily no Dira So even in London, 
like it's not actually out of 

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the question that if if the 
tactics go just a little bit 

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sideways, I I I think Georgia 
Hunter Bell could have a shot at

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the at the world record as well.
Mac Shaking has that. 

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OK, maybe I got carried away 
there, but that's sort of what 

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I've just kind of been thinking 
is like tactics have been a 

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little bit of a vulnerability 
for Keely. 

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I think as I was saying before, 
like she has run some really 

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good. 
Like even if you think about 

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Eugene 2022, right, she nearly 
got those tactics 100% right. 

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I think we're slightly better on
the day as it turned out, but 

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she nearly had it right. 
And I think so she got that race

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tactically right. 
She just didn't maybe quite have

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the fitness to be a thing on the
day. 

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But I don't think she's ever 
been tactically bad other than I

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think she there were certain 
types of race tactic which just,

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yeah, just mess her up. 
And yes, you're right, like the 

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Merry Mira race tactics. 
But she has she's worked through

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that. 
And I think that's what's really

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clever about their team, their 
team. 

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Like they study their their 
opponents. 

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They're very open about that. 
Like I've had long chats with 

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Georgia about this as well. 
Like they as a team, they study 

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who's in the race, how, what 
they think they're going to do, 

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how they, you know, there's some
athletes who'll go to race and 

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go, I'm going to run my race. 
I don't care what anyone else 

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does. 
And there are some athletes that

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will go into a race and say, OK,
these are the seven other people

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in this race. 
This is how I need to race to 

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beat them. 
And obviously in this race, very

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clearly they didn't expect what 
Audrey Warry did. 

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And that was obviously the the 
issue. 

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But or at least part of the 
issue, but I think they will, 

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they will learn and they will, 
they'll come back from this. 

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I, I, yeah, I don't think I'm 
too concerned about a tactics. 

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00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,320
But you are right in saying, 
look, she is she's someone who 

443
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,720
can really her best race only 
comes out in certain ways. 

444
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,560
So when she's miles better than 
the rest of the field, obviously

445
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,280
it doesn't really matter. 
Which is 2024. 

446
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,560
Yeah, the Olympics, whilst when 
there is someone who's 

447
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,480
relatively close to her, you 
have to get the tactics bang on 

448
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,920
because she doesn't have as much
flexibility. 

449
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,960
Whilst someone like a Georgia 
Hunter Bell who was able to take

450
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,760
advantage of the tactical 
situation in Tokyo, for example,

451
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,480
like that is a very different 
kind of skill set. 

452
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,640
And we saw that again from her 
in Rome the other day as well, 

453
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:57,920
like the way she reacted to 
Nikki kicking and picking the 

454
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,800
exact perfect time to kick by 
them was absolutely brilliant, 

455
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,040
right? 
And absolute perfection. 

456
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,080
And that you can only really do 
that if you have that kick level

457
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,800
skill set in your in your 
arsenal. 

458
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,640
And maybe Key doesn't have that 
quite in the same way in the 800

459
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,880
that Georgia showed that that 
she had it in Tokyo as well. 

460
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,360
Max, did you? 
Have you given thoughts of 

461
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,720
what's Keely's best tactical? 
Yeah, I mean this, I don't want 

462
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,720
to say it was like we're 
splitting hairs here, you know, 

463
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,400
because like her bad days are 
are most other. 

464
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:31,720
People. 
Yeah. 

465
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,600
Yeah, Her bad day is better than
every American who was in this 

466
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,760
field. 
Yeah, bad days are bronze here. 

467
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,880
So like, it's still hardware. 
But like, yeah, if, if this is 

468
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,120
what we're dissecting, I think I
think Tokyo is like her best 

469
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:52,160
example of a bad race because 
she she makes like 3 hard moves 

470
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,800
in that. 
And Mary is just relentless at 

471
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,960
not giving up the lead. 
Like Keely tries to take over 

472
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,200
the lead multiple times in the 
1st 400 and then again around 

473
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,080
going from like 4 to 500. 
And Mary's doing this weird 

474
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,240
thing where she's running in the
middle of lane 1 and it's just 

475
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,600
like extremely awkward. 
They're they're bumping and it's

476
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,360
just, it's just super messy. 
I think in these races that are 

477
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:22,600
not paced and Keely doesn't have
like a clean run to lane 1 and 

478
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,560
is in the lead or slotted easily
into lane two. 

479
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720
I would love to see her run a 
little bit more like Georgia 

480
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,040
where she sits back a little bit
and is just patient. 

481
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,240
Like Keely is always fighting 
for the front. 

482
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,480
And that's a great thing. 
I mean, she's an Olympic 

483
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,200
champion. 
She's all the hardware in the 

484
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,520
world, world indoor record. 
Like who are we to be critiquing

485
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,560
any of this stuff? 
You know, but I would just, I 

486
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,240
think I would like to see her in
these chaotic races, just like 

487
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,120
sit back a little bit and be a 
little bit more patient if she 

488
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,200
knows that she can't just 
command the front because she's 

489
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,520
so good at controlling these 
races. 

490
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,720
But like sometimes, sometimes 
you have an A minus day and 

491
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,600
someone else is on an A+ day. 
And like, it's at that point, 

492
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,520
it's like, all right, now we now
what do you have to work with 

493
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,760
this? 
And that's where I just I would 

494
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,960
like to see her just be maybe be
a little bit more patient in 

495
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,400
some of these. 
And I'm more so talking about 

496
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,280
like races without rabbits. 
It's a little different when 

497
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,600
it's like these diamond leagues 
are kind of almost scripted. 

498
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,280
Sometimes they tell athletes 
like, hey, like you're you're 

499
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,240
welcome for having a lane. 
You better not mess this up. 

500
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,240
Like when we're when you're 
coming out of the break, you are

501
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,640
in the back. 
That's how some of these meat 

502
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,400
directors are. 
So it's a little different going

503
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,880
from these diamond leagues to a 
non rabbited race. 

504
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,200
But yeah, that's my my main take
away is like she's excellent at 

505
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,040
front running. 
She just ran a top ten all time,

506
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,520
like, you know, against a a top 
three all time. 

507
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200
She's great. 
But yeah, I know it's sort of 

508
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,760
like we're we're looking for 
more ways to make this event 

509
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,680
more. 
Interesting aside. 

510
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,800
From the fact that we now we 
have 2 generational talents 

511
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,080
going head to head. 
The the one other tool in the 

512
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,520
toolbox is like, I wonder, you 
know, how Yoko occasionally does

513
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,360
the walk off the line. 
Yeah. 

514
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,960
You know, instead of front 
running, like I kind of want to 

515
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,280
see something in the realm of 
that where it's like, yeah, you 

516
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,520
are really good and you know, 
this race is going to be messy 

517
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,200
up front. 
And like you, you have the 

518
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960
talent and the fitness to to 
kind of do something different. 

519
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,360
One more note on this 800. 
Virgin Willis finished third 

520
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,640
despite being boxed in on the 
rail for most of the race. 

521
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400
She had to move all the way out 
to lane 4 in the home straight 

522
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,040
and still ended up running 157 
five. 

523
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640
That's a three second 
improvement on her previous 

524
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,000
outdoor personal best. 
She looked like she had more in 

525
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,400
the tank. 
The only thing was, it was like 

526
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,200
she was invisible for her for 
the whole. 

527
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,520
Yeah, I wanted to be. 
I wanted to be. 

528
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,200
Initially I was frustrated 
because like the Werro and and 

529
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,200
Keely were so far out in front, 
you like couldn't really. 

530
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,600
Let's be honest, we weren't 
watching the back of the race 

531
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:00,320
here. 
They were. 

532
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,480
They were like, they were so far
back and and they all ran like a

533
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,920
bunch of them ran PBS too. 
That just shows how incredible 

534
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,160
that race actually was. 
I wanted to be frustrated 

535
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,800
because we so often see Rocheen 
just have a screaming last 100 

536
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200
and you're like, man, I would 
have been sick if you would have

537
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,920
gone out a little bit harder. 
But to Rocheen's defense, she 

538
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,360
had like hit. 
She had hit #1 and just got 

539
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,360
crushed by the brake. 
So didn't get out that hard and 

540
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,240
was stuck. 
She was actually just stuck the 

541
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,920
entire time until the last 120 
and then I my my small soapbox 

542
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,240
for sage hurt a clocker here. 
You're running like she's 

543
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,280
running. 
She ran both Rabat and Stockholm

544
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,680
in lane 2 the entire time and. 
You're just screaming at your 

545
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,920
TV. 
Yeah, I know it's that's for an 

546
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,920
800 meters, that's 50, that's 15
extra meters you're running in 

547
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,920
lane 2 and at 157 pace that's 
about that's a little over a 

548
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:03,080
second, a little if Sage. 
I know this is IFS and what OK I

549
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,960
get it's all hypotheticals. 
If Sage runs a second faster she

550
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,960
finishes 3rd and is not 8th. 
That's like that's the 

551
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,360
difference in these and Rosheen 
ran mostly in lane one until the

552
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,400
last 100 and finished third and 
ran a second faster than Sage. 

553
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Preet. 
With well, what's interesting 

554
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,880
with Rasheen is she closed the 
last 114.4 seconds that is only 

555
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,920
nought .2 seconds slower than 
Audrey Wearo, faster than Keely 

556
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,160
and .6 seconds faster than 
anyone else in the race. 

557
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,240
So she had a really screaming 
last hundreds. 

558
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,120
I mean that that shows she's 
like that shape she had indoors.

559
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
That form she showed there. 
It wasn't you know, she's she's 

560
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,600
carrying it forward. 
What's also really interesting, 

561
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Rashem Willis won the World Year
20s in 2022. 

562
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,280
She beat Audrey Arrow. 
Silva was Audrey Arrow, Bronze 

563
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,840
was Julia Whitaker. 
So you know, four years ago they

564
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:07,120
were obviously on a level and 
Rashem was slightly better on 

565
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,120
that day. 
So maybe there's there's much 

566
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,160
more to come from Rashem. 
You never know. 

567
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,000
I think Rashem's got a couple 
more seconds in her this after 

568
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,040
watching that race I think. 
But like, this is all I hope so 

569
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,560
she's I just want to see her be 
super aggressive from the front 

570
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280
and one of these things. 
Get her in London. 

571
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:32,040
Yeah, and Raven Rodgers ran 157 
as well, which? 

572
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,160
I That's a good. 
Sign, right? 

573
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Yeah, We haven't seen that from 
her in a while. 

574
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,360
So I think that that's a good 
sign as well. 

575
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,320
So yeah. 
Is it not like I know they're 

576
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,440
running well, is it not? 
It's hard to be super excited 

577
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:48,360
watching that and be like, man, 
but you were 40 meters back, you

578
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,440
know, like I know it's. 
And I know it reminds me of 

579
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,080
remember the the Bauerman Mile 
that one year where it was 

580
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Yaakov and and yard just like 
battling and everyone else is so

581
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960
far in the distance. 
Is this this had that sort of 

582
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,160
vibe? 
And this is and this is the 

583
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,440
difference between these paced 
races and something like a 

584
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,400
championship where I think 
Americans, this is my American 

585
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,120
bias here. 
We typically suck at time 

586
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:16,400
trialling and over perform at A 
championship races compared to 

587
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,000
our regular season time 
trialling, so it's always a 

588
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,880
little different. 
But yeah, it's the the front of 

589
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,679
the field is pretty far away in 
this one. 

590
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,040
It was, hey, I when I rewatched 
this thing, I think on the 

591
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,679
fourth time, I was like, man, 
that gap is insane. 

592
00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:37,600
But yeah, I to me that was the 
race of the meet. 

593
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,880
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mag 20 If we go over to the men.
'S 800 Cooper Lectenhaus 17 

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years old, just finished his 
junior year of high school in 

650
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Texas, makes his Diamond League 
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651
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beats Marco Rope, who was in 
second place in one 4311 the 

652
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,640
former world champion, 4th the 
4th fastest man in history, 

653
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Olympic silver medalist. 
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challenge there by Simile 
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00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,960
Ben Pattison was in this one. 
Jake Whiteman, Bryce Hoppel. 

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Only big name, I guess missing 
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his partner had a baby and so he
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659
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Kenya. 
And so he missed out on this 

660
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,800
race. 
But he is slated to race in Oslo

661
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Next up. 
So we will get the Clash there. 

662
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But Cooper's execution in this 
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663
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:21,560
home in the second second lap, 
he was 6th at 300 meters, 4th at

664
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:26,840
the bell, second at 600, took 
the lead only in the last 50 

665
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,720
meters where he was just looking
stronger than Marco, which is 

666
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:34,680
kind of crazy to think about 
when you look at the two of them

667
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,240
and you're like 1's a 17 year 
old high schooler. 

668
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:42,960
The other one is this enormous 
Titan of the 800 in the last 

669
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,480
couple years and Cooper out 
dueled him there. 

670
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,120
So I mean, this is I think 10 
times more impressive than his 

671
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,680
victory at the World Indoor 
Championships because that one 

672
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,800
didn't have Marco, didn't have 
it, just didn't have the amount 

673
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,520
of talent that this field had. 
So for him to get his first ever

674
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,680
Diamond League victory in his 
first time out, the kid has just

675
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,480
shown so much poise and 
potential. 

676
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,320
So much to be excited about back
like what are your. 

677
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,240
Thoughts. 
That should be a. 

678
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,280
You should have to repent for 
that statement. 

679
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,360
That that that this is better 
than the. 

680
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,640
World No that a Diamond League 
win is better than a global a 

681
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,600
global Championship win. 
Is it not? 

682
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,840
No what? 
Never. 

683
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,000
Come on dude, this is a Diamond 
League. 

684
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,600
This this victory is so much 
better than his world indoor 

685
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,160
title. 
No, it's not. 

686
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,480
It doesn't. 
Create Whose side are you on 

687
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,200
here? 
Who is in or who is in? 

688
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:48,800
These races like these are like 
invites, not a global 

689
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,960
championship. 
You can't. 

690
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,160
There's no way it goes Global 
Olympic, World Indoor 

691
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Championship to nobody indoors 
and then your Diamond leagues. 

692
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,640
I can I Chris, I get where 
you're coming from, but I have 

693
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:06,280
to agree with Matt that global 
championships like, yeah, he won

694
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,240
a global championship, 
negotiated the rounds and and 

695
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:13,480
did that successfully, which is 
hugely, hugely impressive at his

696
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,320
age and his level of experience.
Like a Diamond League, you can 

697
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,840
have one good race, right? 
Like we'd already seen him have 

698
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,680
an amazing race last year at USA
is right. 

699
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,400
So we know he's capable of that,
but it's, yeah, I, I, I, I have 

700
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600
to say, like negotiating your 
way through rounds and winning a

701
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,840
global championship is, is 
something else even. 

702
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,200
Granted, not everyone was there,
but I think now we're building 

703
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:40,440
up that evidence that shows he 
can do multiple things. 

704
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,160
And that is kind of what we 
wanted to see, right? 

705
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,440
I can certainly tell you which 
one his contract value is more. 

706
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:55,400
It's not the Diamond League win.
I I'm looking it up like Elliot 

707
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,520
Crest on who was silver there 
didn't even make the final in 

708
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840
the 800. 
That doesn't that's on everyone 

709
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,880
else to show up that's. 
Attitui was fifth. 

710
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,680
OK, I'll give him that. 
And Attitui ended up bronze. 

711
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,160
No, absolutely not. 
All right, well, agree to 

712
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,760
disagree on this one, but what 
else impressed you about the 

713
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,440
about his execution here? 
I, he was great off the break. 

714
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,480
He's super aware, which I, I 
love to see, especially someone 

715
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,200
that's as young as him, like 
he's super aware of what's going

716
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,680
on around him at the break. 
He's looking over, he's like 

717
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,640
he's not along for the ride. 
He's racing. 

718
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,840
He's very aware of where he 
needs to be or wants to be when 

719
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,560
he's slotting in. 
And as soon as someone starts 

720
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,840
fading, when Hoppel like he's 
initially on Hoppel's shoulder, 

721
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,400
as soon as Hoppel's not super 
overly committed to the pace 

722
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,160
goes by him come by 400. 
Like there's a little bit of a 

723
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,520
gap. 
He's he's just on top of any gap

724
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,440
that's forming. 
And like he had a Cooper's at 

725
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,840
his best when he has a lot of 
clear running in front of him. 

726
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,840
And the way that this race kind 
of unfolded, he there wasn't a 

727
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,440
lot of traffic in front of him 
and it was paced fast enough to 

728
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,440
where it was kind of strung out.
And yeah, it's just like pure 

729
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440
talent and fitness. 
I think showed up here. 

730
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,360
Marco did his usual thing and 
like really pressed from 250 out

731
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,320
that 2:50 to to 100 to go. 
Marco loves kind of turning the 

732
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:25,600
screws on people. 
And yeah, Cooper, Cooper just 

733
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,000
had more, just more fit. 
Like, you know, I, I think like,

734
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,920
yeah, maybe Marco tries 
something different next time, 

735
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,680
but I don't think he'll be doing
the same thing again. 

736
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,240
Do you think because we were 
just kind of giving Keely a 

737
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,880
bunch of crap over her tactics, 
but like Cooper, like, he 

738
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,240
doesn't need to test any, he 
doesn't need to alter any 

739
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,480
anything in his tactics right 
now? 

740
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Or is there something else you 
want to see from him? 

741
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,480
Because the way he's been 
running these, it's like it's 

742
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,680
working. 
He's established himself as a 

743
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,280
closer. 
And I guess we just haven't seen

744
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,680
him try and sit on a pacer 
because this isn't only his 

745
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,400
first Diamond League and try and
take things wire to wire. 

746
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,920
But like, as of right now, for 
the first time out, I'm like, 

747
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:15,240
all right, keep doing this. 
Yeah, I mean these the diamond 

748
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:19,320
leagues are like if people can't
get it, they're like fair. 

749
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,520
I don't want to say they're 
fully scripted, but like if 

750
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:25,320
they're re basically reruns week
in and week out because the the 

751
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,600
pay like for the middle 
distances they are for the 

752
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,400
sprints, they are because of the
set paces. 

753
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
And and every meet wants to have
meeting records. 

754
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,280
So you can expect to know like, 
you know what the the paces are 

755
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,560
going to be because everyone 
wants a meeting record so they 

756
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,440
can hold the cardboard sign up. 
So yeah, but like this just 

757
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,360
proved that Cooper is fantastic 
at these. 

758
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Like if he's good at this one, 
he's going to be good at the 

759
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,560
next one. 
And we know that he has his top 

760
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,720
end PB speed. 
So I don't think he's going to 

761
00:44:53,720 --> 00:44:56,160
have any trouble like competing 
with these. 

762
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,760
What's what's cool is he already
has his first diamond like wind 

763
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:03,200
under his belt. 
And I think we'll get to the 

764
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,680
men's 15th. 
But Yard has what, 6 Diamond 

765
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,360
League wins? 
And what is it the rest of the 

766
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,120
Americans? 
They'll have like 1. 

767
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,520
Donovan. 
Has four, doesn't even have one.

768
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:17,760
Yeah, yeah, Donovan has 4 / 8. 
100 Donovan has four right, so. 

769
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,680
But but other than that, yeah, 
nobody. 

770
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,440
Else, but yeah, not many. 
Think about how long. 

771
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,040
I know Don was out for a while 
but. 

772
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,440
Like, Century never won one, 
right? 

773
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,280
Leo won one, I think. 
One, yeah. 

774
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,000
So yeah, Cooper at 17 years old 
has his first one. 

775
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,280
So that's. 
One out of one, he's one for 

776
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,640
one. 
He's one for one. 

777
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:37,280
Keep it rolling. 
Quit. 

778
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,480
Quit now I. 
Mean the one thing I did like 

779
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,560
and it's picking at like the 
edges here. 

780
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,000
He did spend a lot of time in 
Lane 2. 

781
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:46,600
Yeah. 
OK. 

782
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,040
So he's he did run a little 
extra distance as well, which 

783
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,280
now, all right, tells you he's 
in 141 shape. 

784
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Who knows, right? 
But yeah, I mean, so phenomenal.

785
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,600
I mean, the way he speaks just 
in press conferences and stuff 

786
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,800
is so impressive. 
The way he like composes himself

787
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:06,880
and the way like if you're a 17 
year old arriving at your first 

788
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,360
ever Diamond League, right, and 
you're facing the likes of 

789
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,640
marker a rope, you know, you've 
got whatever you got 3 or 4 

790
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,120
world medallists in this field, 
right? 

791
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,840
You know, you just, you've got 
the American record holder in 

792
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,560
this field, right? 
You've got so many really good 

793
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,600
athletes in this field and 
you're able to just do that to 

794
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,320
them. 
It it's incredible, right? 

795
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,240
It's just as a composure. 
He showed to again make his move

796
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:39,320
at the exact right moment when 
Marco was starting to fade, went

797
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,080
past him, didn't look back and 
he was in the right place the 

798
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,360
whole time. 
And it was just so, so 

799
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,000
impressive. 
So I, you know, he he saw when I

800
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,280
think there were a couple of 
guys, I can't remember exactly 

801
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,760
who it was. 
Was it to Alan and someone else 

802
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,280
who were kind of he was sitting 
just behind them. 

803
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,720
But when they started to slow, 
he went around them at the 

804
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:00,600
perfect time. 
I think he was in touch with 

805
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,200
Marco Slimane. 
Moolah that. 

806
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:03,160
Was it moolah? 
Yeah. 

807
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,240
And yeah, he went. 
He went around them at the 

808
00:47:05,240 --> 00:47:09,480
perfect time and kept in touch 
with with a rope and, and then 

809
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,200
went past him at the at the 
right moment. 

810
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:16,320
And it was just, yeah, it felt 
like tactical perfection in 

811
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,560
spite of the extra distance that
he ran in terms of the timings 

812
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,120
of his moves and using the right
amount of energy to to get 

813
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,520
himself into position and have 
enough left at the end. 

814
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,880
Like, and, and that as I say, 
like you've got some such such 

815
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,000
experienced athletes in this 
field and they aren't able to do

816
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,720
that in a race like this, which 
is so he's got superior fitness 

817
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,440
as well. 
Yeah, he's got to be the 

818
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,800
favorite for USAS, assuming, you
know, it's a weird year where 

819
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,860
you don't know who's actually 
going to show up in a quote, UN 

820
00:47:48,860 --> 00:47:51,920
quote off year. 
But in an event like this, I 

821
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,400
mean, Brazier's already racing 
in some of these diamond links, 

822
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,480
but hasn't shown this kind of 
fitness. 

823
00:47:56,720 --> 00:48:00,720
He just beat Hopple handily. 
Josh Hoey remains nowhere to be 

824
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,080
seen so far. 
I think he's still recovering 

825
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,280
from injury. 
So yeah, I think right now 

826
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,680
Cooper's on another level. 
Yeah, or to preach point, it's 

827
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,840
cool to see him sort of embrace 
the for some people, it's 

828
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,800
difficult to run in front of 
fans. 

829
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,120
And like we we never got to see 
if he was like good or bad at 

830
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,680
that going through the NCAA 
system. 

831
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,320
Like, you know, he never ran an 
NCAA meet in front of like a few

832
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,360
thousand people. 
So to see him go from his like 

833
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,600
league meets and I guess his 
state championships, like Texas 

834
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,880
State championships could have 
had a couple 1000 people at to 

835
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,440
venues like Tokyo and Stockholm 
that are just filled to the 

836
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,720
brim. 
And he's seemingly embracing it.

837
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,120
And, you know, he's not fading 
and he's not scared of it and 

838
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,920
he's performing like, you know, 
he wants to that that's really, 

839
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,680
really cool. 
I, I, it is going to be fun to 

840
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,160
see as he becomes the favorite 
in these things. 

841
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,280
Does anything change? 
Does he race differently? 

842
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,520
Do other people race him 
differently as he becomes more 

843
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,320
of a a factor going forward? 
But yeah, super. 

844
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,360
It's just like he's super young 
and went from running high 

845
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,720
school league meets to winning 
diamond leagues. 

846
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,640
It's yeah. 
It's really, really cool. 

847
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000
He's still got like, I think a 
little bit of a learning curve 

848
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,480
to see just like get used to how
fast these Diamond League races 

849
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,680
are going to be. 
But he took to it on the first 

850
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,560
try really, really well. 
And to your point of just sort 

851
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,600
of his body of work leading into
this, if you look at just sort 

852
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,280
of his 800 meter races as he 
when he was a freshman, what he 

853
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,800
talked about even last year 
after making the team was sort 

854
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,360
of like freshman tactics in high
school, high school tactics, 

855
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,240
which was just sit for as long 
as possible, then unleash 

856
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,920
whatever the biggest kick that 
you have. 

857
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,160
Then as a sophomore, once he 
realized how good he was, he 

858
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,240
would probably go to the lead a 
little bit sooner than that, 

859
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:52,920
knowing that he was better than 
everyone else. 

860
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,880
And then by the time he's a 
junior, this is this is where 

861
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,680
he's at. 
So it's like we really don't 

862
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,400
have a huge body of work to look
at for Cooper that it's really 

863
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,120
fun to see him learn the sport 
in front of our eyes. 

864
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,320
Some somewhere along the lines, 
there had to been some poor high

865
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,640
school kid that raised him that 
in in his head was like, man, if

866
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,800
only I would have done this, I 
would have won that race. 

867
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,680
And it's like, no, I don't think
it mattered what you did. 

868
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,040
He was going to win no matter 
what. 

869
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:29,600
Yeah, Mack, I guess like since 
you love I guess non paced 

870
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:36,520
races, is Cooper better? 
I guess like if he clearly 

871
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:41,160
already hasn't lost when he has 
a pacer and then when he's at 

872
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,800
these global championships when 
he doesn't have a pacer, he's 

873
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,080
also not losing right now, which
which Cooper is better? 

874
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,840
Like do you see him as someone 
who can't lose without a pacer? 

875
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,840
Who can't lose? 
Yeah, he can lose. 

876
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,360
He certainly can lose like these
guys are. 

877
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,520
All they travel around the 
world. 

878
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,800
The caveat here is also that 
Joshua is the de facto pacer if 

879
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,800
he runs the way he does at USA. 
Like people get sick, they 

880
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,880
travel a ton. 
Like the fact that these guys 

881
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,440
run this fast the the everyone 
in these diamond links, the fact

882
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,520
that they all compete as well as
they do and run as fast as they 

883
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,760
do, sprinters, distance runners,
throwers, everyone alike with 

884
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,120
how much travel and stuff they 
do is remarkable. 

885
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,600
So it's inevitable that 
someone's going to have an off 

886
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,360
day. 
So yes, he will lose one of 

887
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,640
these diamond legs eventually. 
I think we'll just see him kind 

888
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,360
of grow as a championship racer.
The great thing is, is he has a 

889
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,440
lot of years in front of him, so
he's going to get a lot of 

890
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,200
experience. 
And that's why I love that he 

891
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,440
ran World Indoors 'cause he's 
just getting as much experience 

892
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,680
as possible as as fast as 
possible. 

893
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,200
Because these diamond legs are 
very different than you know, if

894
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:51,040
one yoni decides to yo-yo the 
1st 400 of a world championship 

895
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,120
final is very different than 
like, hey, this rabbit is going 

896
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:59,880
to run dead on 49 two with the 
lights and all this help. 

897
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,760
And guess what? 
We told the guys that are 

898
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:06,320
supposed to finish 5th, 6th, 7th
and 8th to not mess with you. 

899
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,880
It's very different than than a 
world championship final. 

900
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,320
So yeah, well, he's he is 
extremely talented and fast. 

901
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,080
So I think the diamond leagues 
are going to suit him very well 

902
00:52:19,720 --> 00:52:21,720
because he is so good at free 
running. 

903
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,560
So yeah. 
So maybe last week he had his 

904
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,360
social studies final due, or his
English. 

905
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,760
That final English test, the big
test is next week in Oslo, 

906
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,560
because that's where he faces 
when you own you for the first 

907
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,160
time. 
And in addition to that, it's 

908
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,200
also is Max Bergen also I think 
running this. 

909
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,720
One, Max Bergen, yeah, he knows 
ball. 

910
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,920
And this was at one of the cool 
things that came at the press 

911
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,360
conference there when he was 
asked which athlete he wants to 

912
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,280
meet. 
He said Max Bergen, because Max 

913
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,600
Bergen has some of the. 
Yeah, no, because Max Bergen has

914
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,480
some of the age group world 
records that he like as when he 

915
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,360
was younger, like he's the world
record older for like some of 

916
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,560
those younger age groups. 
And he's a very similar talent. 

917
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,840
He obviously, Max obviously 
suffered a lot with injury and 

918
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,880
he's now showing his talent by 
beating when Yoni a couple of 

919
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,520
weeks ago in Rabat as well. 
So it's quite a cool like 

920
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,600
storyline that's all coming 
together at the same time. 

921
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,480
He's going to beat Max Bergen 
for the first time. 

922
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,840
He's going to beat when he's 
going to race when Yoni for the 

923
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,880
first time. 
Max just beat when Yoni like 

924
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,160
it's a whole thing and he's just
beating a rope. 

925
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,600
But like it's all pretty cool. 
But the one thing I was going to

926
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:27,720
say was that these Diamond 
leagues, what I found is like 

927
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:30,120
last year, for example, we're 
talking about Josh Hoey trying 

928
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,120
to make the World Championships 
by winning the Diamond League 

929
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,840
final. 
He goes and he runs his best 

930
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,560
race, beating Wanyoni and 
everyone a couple of races 

931
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,720
before the next time they see 
his tactic coming, they know 

932
00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:43,560
what to do and they they deal 
with it. 

933
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,480
And this is I think the issue 
you've got with with some of 

934
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,120
these Diamond leagues that it's 
like a rope tries different 

935
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,920
things in each one. 
And then sometimes it works and 

936
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,560
he beats 1 Yoni. 
And I think that at that top 

937
00:53:55,560 --> 00:54:01,640
level of the 800, you can kind 
of throw a bit of a surprise in 

938
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,040
some of these Diamond League 
races. 

939
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,120
You saw one Yoni go to sleep a 
little bit in Rebat for like in 

940
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,040
the 3rd 200 and and then Bergen 
went past him and he let him go 

941
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,120
and that was that. 
And you know that I think there 

942
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,840
are of these things, but I 
suspect 1 you won't let that 

943
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,440
happen again with Max Bergen, 
right, Because he knows what he 

944
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:22,800
can do now. 
And I think there is a little 

945
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,920
bit of that with these guys in 
the 800 that once you've kind of

946
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,520
you've got a couple of chances 
to put in some unexpected 

947
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,360
tactics which work really well 
for you. 

948
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,200
And maybe you come away with a 
win. 

949
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,200
And there is a chance that once 
the likes of 1 Union and a kind 

950
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,280
of get a handle on you, they'll 
deal with you because they are 

951
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,720
the best guys in the world. 
But I don't know, like I'm not 

952
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,040
going to say like Cooper's 
obviously showing himself to be 

953
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,840
at that level right now. 
So there's every chance that he 

954
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,360
carries on being super 
competitive with them and and 

955
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:55,520
beating them on the regular as 
well. 

956
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,480
How, how disarming is that for 
those these other guys to have 

957
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,800
this 17 year old come in being 
like, oh so great to meet you 

958
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,480
Like you're you're the guy on 
the records list. 

959
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,040
So nice to meet you. 
Also, I'm going to make tomorrow

960
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,280
really freaking hard for you. 
Like, you know I'm. 

961
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,240
Just going to beat you. 
I'm not going to make it hard. 

962
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,640
I'm just going to beat you. 
That's that's got to be tough. 

963
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,280
I mean, it already is. 
These guys are so nice and 

964
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,640
they're all friends. 
Like Marco's Marco Rope is the 

965
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,680
nicest person on earth. 
And it's just like, I don't know

966
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,480
how you line up against him 
having like some sort of like, I

967
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,160
have to, I have to keep like I 
have to beat that guy when he is

968
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,280
just. 
And and someone like Cooper, 

969
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,600
it's just they're so disarming, 
so nice. 

970
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,760
Yeah, it's, it's just funny to 
me. 

971
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,960
Nicest call room in the world 
it. 

972
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,440
Might it might be. 
They're just chatting 

973
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,360
beforehand. 
No, Yeah, that all good stuff. 

974
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,760
All right, that was the men's 
800. 

975
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,360
Next up, I want to go to the 
men's 1500 because we kind of 

976
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,480
did touch on this coming into 
this one crazy high expectations

977
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,320
for Cam Myers because a lot of 
people suspect thinking is going

978
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:18,040
to go sub, you know, 329 sub, 
you know, somewhere around 3:28,

979
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:24,640
3/27 was even being floated by 
folks all because of I guess how

980
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,000
well he raced that 1800 and how 
dominant he's sort of looked 

981
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,200
already in these early parts of 
the season. 

982
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:36,920
But it was Yarid who steals the 
show, wins this 1330 Cam Myers 

983
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,040
330.3. 
The pace lights were set for El 

984
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,680
Guruge's meat record of 329. 
So they didn't get that Cam LED 

985
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,480
for most of the race. 
He went out in 27 for the 1st 

986
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,680
200. 
It was really, I guess like at 

987
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,760
12:12 hundred, he was 247 and 
then he covered the last 300 

988
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,960
meters in 42 three. 
And that's sort of where Yarid 

989
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,360
overtook him in the final 
hundred. 

990
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,040
He, I guess, like Cam didn't 
have that final gear in the last

991
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:14,400
200, whereas Yarid did. 
And so now Yarid pockets his 

992
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,760
sixth Diamond League victory, 
most accomplished American in 

993
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,920
Diamond League history. 
And All in all, it just seems 

994
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,400
like Yard's getting a swagger 
back after 2025. 

995
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:31,000
He misses the team the year 
after getting on the Olympic 

996
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,160
podium. 
Sure, that didn't sit well. 

997
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,440
He had to stress through the 
chase of trying to get the 

998
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,480
Diamond League wild card, and 
that didn't pan out. 

999
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:44,040
So All in all, it looks like 
Yard is back into form and he's,

1000
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,400
you know, definitely a threat 
come the US championships. 

1001
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,720
But once again, like, you got to
sit back and think of like who? 

1002
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,200
I mean, Cole hasn't really 
opened up yet. 

1003
00:57:56,080 --> 00:58:00,960
And I mean, Jonah Kovich, the 
reigning US champion, also 

1004
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:05,400
remains yet to be seen. 
We're going to probably have 

1005
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,200
some college kids also running 
really fast. 

1006
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,120
And so the 1500 isn't, is 
always, you know, this crazy 

1007
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,640
event in the United States. 
But Yard is proving to be, at 

1008
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,120
least for now, the fittest of 
the whole bunch. 

1009
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
What stood out to you about 
Yards? 

1010
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,520
Run in this one Mac. 
Yeah, I mean, I'll touch on on 

1011
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,960
Kim Myers first. 
He hasn't lost this year going 

1012
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,080
like he hadn't lost this year 
going into that race. 

1013
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,640
So they get 8 victories going 
into this. 

1014
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,120
So yeah, clearly expected to 
win. 

1015
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,520
And I he. 
Still has the world leading time

1016
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,680
in the 1500 from that Australian
nationals. 

1017
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,680
And I think after that 
Australian nationals race, like 

1018
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,920
he's just saying, oh, I can win 
from the front. 

1019
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,040
Like I, I can do this. 
Like I'm the big dog now. 

1020
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,880
And we would joke, we joked last
year, we were like, we felt bad 

1021
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,120
for him. 
We're like, here's this kid 

1022
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,520
that's just like he missed all 
the, he's so good that he missed

1023
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,960
all these junior races, like not
racing high school and, and you,

1024
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,440
you know, eighteens or 20s, 
whatever, not doing all of those

1025
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,120
races. 
That he's just coming up in the 

1026
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,320
wrong era, like he's. 
Yeah, and it's just like, oh, 

1027
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,600
he's just against the best ever.
Like there's multiple guys that 

1028
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,600
he's racing that are just like 
the best ever. 

1029
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,560
That sucks 'cause he would have 
these fantastic performances. 

1030
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,920
And he's just like, you know, 
4th, 5th, 6th, 7th. 

1031
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,400
And there's just like, oh, who's
in front of them? 

1032
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,320
Oh, guys breaking the Olympic 
records and like national 

1033
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,080
records. 
And it's, it's just, it sucked. 

1034
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,000
And this year I think we're 
seeing like he's finally 

1035
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,600
developed, He's grown up a 
little bit, gotten more fit and 

1036
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,280
learning how to race, you know, 
a a a bit more. 

1037
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,040
And yeah, going into this hadn't
been beaten. 

1038
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,000
And yeah, took this more, took 
Yard all the way to the line. 

1039
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,200
And yard's proven to be an 
exceptional racer and especially

1040
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,760
exceptional at these Diamond 
leagues. 

1041
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Knows how to get it done. 
So yeah, it's just great to see 

1042
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,400
Cam Myers develop in this way. 
And. 

1043
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,640
And like I he's been so 
consistent to this point, I 

1044
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,600
don't expect anything else from 
him going forward. 

1045
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:06,360
Like this is the racer that he 
is now for yard I. 

1046
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,040
I absolutely love this 2 Diamond
League wins already. 

1047
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,320
Everyone always critiques him 
for not caring for some reason. 

1048
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,600
It's like just cause the guy 
isn't like crazy emotional after

1049
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,280
a race he's. 
Like they accuse him of being 

1050
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,240
like laissez faire about 
competing inside. 

1051
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,520
That he doesn't have much fight.
In him is that. 

1052
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Yeah, It's like, yeah, do you 
know how much fight you have to 

1053
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:29,840
have to run to compete at the 
top end of these things or, or 

1054
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:34,160
be as fit as you are? 
Like this is a this is a 365 day

1055
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:38,040
a year, 24/7 commitment. 
He just doesn't show it in the 

1056
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,280
same way as other people do, 
right? 

1057
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:45,760
Yes, it it hurts and it hurts 
more than just like the last 100

1058
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,520
meters of these races, which he 
certainly like gives his all to.

1059
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,320
So I just I love to kind of see 
him give that back to like, no, 

1060
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,760
I actually do give a shit. 
And I think that that's really 

1061
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,200
showing. 
And he's just been open about 

1062
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,000
like, no, I'm, I, I didn't like 
how last year went. 

1063
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:05,320
And I want to like kind of slow 
solidify myself as being, you 

1064
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,520
know, someone to beat. 
Remember when this may have been

1065
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:15,000
in a couple of months Back when 
Kyle, I guess floated the idea 

1066
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,280
of like the title belt? 
I was just like, was it Isaac 

1067
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,960
Nader's going to have to prove 
that he really is like the best 

1068
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,440
1500m runner in the world and. 
And he's going to take it from 

1069
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,640
Noah Wiles and. 
Yeah, there, there's that. 

1070
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,120
Yeah, that the actual belt. 
But now, I guess, like if you 

1071
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:34,000
look at yards resume for just 
like these two Diamond League 

1072
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:39,240
races in Rabat, he takes down 
Nader in Oslo or in Stockholm, 

1073
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:44,640
he takes down Cam Myers like 
he's I people, I guess when it 

1074
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,760
comes to the 1500 right now fall
into the trap of trying to look 

1075
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:52,320
for like, oh, with Jacob gun, 
like who's going to take his 

1076
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,680
spot as like the, you know, the 
dominant figure in the whole 

1077
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,000
thing. 
And it's like, well, I guess the

1078
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,680
reality is that right now you 
are it is proving to be the 

1079
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,760
fittest of the bunch. 
We haven't seen everybody. 

1080
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,720
Cole hasn't opened up. 
Josh hasn't run up 1500 yet. 

1081
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,240
Niels Laros, Where the hell is 
he right now? 

1082
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,240
Like all these guys who a year 
ago we probably were paying a 

1083
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,680
bit more attention to, they 
haven't really given the 1500 a 

1084
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,280
shot yet. 
But also it's like it's kind of 

1085
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,880
called cool to also live in this
time where in a Diamond League 

1086
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:25,200
1500, it could be Kerr, 
Whiteman, Nader, Hawker, Nagoose

1087
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,840
Myers. 
Like we don't necessarily need 

1088
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,840
to just stick with that one 
dominant figure the whole entire

1089
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,080
time. 
And so this has been this has 

1090
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,720
been fun to watch so far because
right now, I guess Yard is just 

1091
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,080
proving that he's the most in 
Form 1500 guy. 

1092
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,320
And let's see just how long that
holds. 

1093
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,200
Preet, what stood out to you 
from Yards? 

1094
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,480
Run. 
Yeah. 

1095
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,720
So I mean, I think Yarrett, 
obviously we've been waiting for

1096
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:57,600
him to kind of or people have 
been unsure, right, what is his 

1097
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,040
path forward because he 
obviously medalled at the 

1098
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,880
Olympics in 2024. 
In 2023 we thought he was the 

1099
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:11,560
number two guy behind Jacob and 
he didn't medal and in 2024 he 

1100
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:16,440
did get the medal but obviously.
Overshadowed by. 

1101
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,280
Exactly. 
So I think and then coming into 

1102
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,160
2025, he doesn't make the team 
and we're not really sure. 

1103
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,080
And then indoors as well, he 
didn't normally he's like an 

1104
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,880
absolute beast indoors. 
This year indoors, he didn't 

1105
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,760
quite look as invincible as he 
has in in previous years. 

1106
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,560
And I think it's really great to
see that he's come out winning 

1107
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:43,760
these races. 
And you know, we know though, in

1108
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,600
previous years he's won 4 
Diamond League races. 

1109
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:49,240
He can win Diamond Leagues. 
So I think this is a good sign, 

1110
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,560
but I don't think it tells us 
anything we didn't already know.

1111
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,800
Jared can win 330 Diamond 
leagues. 

1112
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:58,400
That is his bread and butter. 
That is his absolute sweet spot.

1113
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,640
I looked at all the times, they 
were all somewhere around 3:29 

1114
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,080
and 3:30. 
Exactly. 

1115
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,840
And but we will see like on 
Wednesday, we're going to see 

1116
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:10,400
the dream mile. 
We're going to see him against 

1117
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,080
the entire Tokyo podium from 
last year, plus a couple of 

1118
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:19,000
other previous medallists, and 
so that's another really good. 

1119
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,600
Cams in it too, right? 
Cams cams in it too. 

1120
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,520
So it's another really good test
with a probably the most stacked

1121
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,600
field of, you know, compared to 
the previous more stack than the

1122
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,440
previous two that he's won. 
So I think that will be 

1123
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,960
interesting again to see. 
And ultimately, I think this 

1124
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,160
year it kind of suits him 
because he is now pretty much 

1125
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,760
guaranteed a spot in the World 
Ultimate Championships. 

1126
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:44,600
I think with these two wins, 
that's going to boost his 

1127
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,360
ranking quite a lot with 
whatever else he does, you know,

1128
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:53,120
and he'll be at the World 
Ultimate Championships and then 

1129
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,560
we can see what he can do there.
But if he continues to show this

1130
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,880
kind of form, we'll put him as a
contender. 

1131
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,880
But again, there we know very 
much it depends what happens in 

1132
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,120
an unpaced race and whether it's
a race that suits him, right? 

1133
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Because I think that is the the 
bit that has always been the 

1134
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,520
case where that Olympic final 
was perfect for Yarid, right? 

1135
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,680
It was absolutely perfect in the
sense you had Jakob as the 

1136
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:20,480
pacemaker he loves Yarid love 
sitting behind Jakob as the 

1137
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,000
pacemaker. 
That is, that is Yakob Yarid's 

1138
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:29,720
dream, dream spot in any race. 
And it really does depend what 

1139
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:34,000
we're going to get, right. 
But it's good to see him winning

1140
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,000
in slightly different ways, 
holding on, having a lot more of

1141
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,760
a kick back that maybe he didn't
have as much of over the last 

1142
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:46,040
sort of year and a half. 
So yeah, I think good signs, but

1143
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,560
again, not necessarily anything 
new yet. 

1144
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,400
So I want to see more. 
Before we leave this 15, can I 

1145
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,000
read some numbers off to you, 
you 2 stat guys? 

1146
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:04,960
Sure. 
Timmy C Timothy Cheriot has run 

1147
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:11,440
331 or faster for the last 10 
consecutive years. 2016 He ran 

1148
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,960
3/31/2017. 
He ran 3/29/2018. 

1149
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,520
He ran 3/28/2019. 
He ran 3/28/2020. 

1150
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,400
He ran 3/28/2021. 
He ran 3/28/2022. 

1151
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:26,360
He ran 3/30/2023. 
He ran 3/29/2024. 

1152
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:31,800
He ran 3/28/2025. 
He ran 3292026 and coming from 

1153
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,600
his third place finish behind 
Yared and Cam Myers and 

1154
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,960
Stockholm 330. 
Unbelievable. 

1155
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:44,280
I think that's probably the 
second best, you know, decade of

1156
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:52,320
work behind Asbel Kiprop 
probably I'm looking at. 

1157
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,200
So if you take the average, if 
you take the average of Timothy 

1158
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:58,600
Chariots, 10 best times in his 
career. 

1159
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,840
Undergo 10 best times we're 
going to decade. 

1160
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:02,840
Yeah. 
No, no, no. 

1161
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:08,840
But even even then, his average,
his top ten average is 3/28/87. 

1162
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:12,960
Yeah. 
No, that's really, really good. 

1163
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,280
I'm so happy to see him back in 
the mix. 

1164
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,520
Like he's like not back in the 
mix. 

1165
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,600
He's obviously I just read off. 
He's been in the mix for a 

1166
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,760
decade. 
It's just fun to see him in the 

1167
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,440
front and always mixing it up. 
The guy's fearless and and I 

1168
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,720
feel like he works with 
everything that he has. 

1169
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,080
He's never leaving anything else
like he's he's never questioning

1170
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,680
if he gave his all out there. 
I'm looking at it now, Mac all 

1171
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,800
right that you tell me if this 
is more impressive than because 

1172
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,560
also I guess take into account 
pre super spikes as will Kiprop 

1173
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:50,880
2007 No, that was only a 335 
year 2008 3/31/2009 3:31 2010 

1174
01:07:50,880 --> 01:08:05,240
3/31/2011 3:30 2012 3282013327 
2014 3282015326 2016320920 17333

1175
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,440
So it's a span of 2008 to 2017. 
What's more impressive? 

1176
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:19,720
Well, plus a glaring career 
issue at the tail end of that, 

1177
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,880
Yeah, then I guess did. 
Test positive in 2018. 

1178
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,600
Yes, so. 
Which is why the timeline stops 

1179
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,399
at. 17 Which is why I'm taking 
Timothy Cherry up in our either 

1180
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:38,720
or game here. 
All right, really quick. 

1181
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,680
Mondo lost. 
First pole vault competition 

1182
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,920
that he loses since July 2023 
snaps his 44 meet winning 

1183
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,680
streak. 
The win goes to Australian 

1184
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,160
Curtis Marshall, who won at 5.9 
meters. 

1185
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,800
Mondo cleared 585.8 but failed 
twice at six meters. 

1186
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,319
The weather in in Stockholm can 
sometimes make it a little bit 

1187
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:03,240
tricky. 
It's just sucks, I guess 'cause 

1188
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:08,640
he lost in front of a home 
crowd, but I don't take this as 

1189
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,600
like any sort of major blip for 
him. 

1190
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,640
He's getting married I think 
next week. 

1191
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,160
Yeah, week on Saturday, Yep. 
So same day as the now 

1192
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:19,560
rescheduled Doha Diamond League.
So there probably won't have any

1193
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,359
pole vaulters there even if it 
does go ahead. 

1194
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,439
Then you go wait, is there a 
pole vault at the? 

1195
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,600
I think there is meant to be. 
I think someone was saying that 

1196
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,279
so I haven't double checked but 
I think there might be so. 

1197
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:34,080
I imagine it's like the whole 
entire pole vault field is not 

1198
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:38,080
there because, well, you'd have 
to think that some of these pole

1199
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,640
vaulters have to be groomsmen, 
right? 

1200
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:45,319
Has has the meeting director 
looked at the news recently? 

1201
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:48,359
Yeah. 
Yeah, I can't believe that meet 

1202
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:50,040
the recent meet is still going 
full. 

1203
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,439
There's a Diamond League men's 
pole vault in Doha, yes. 

1204
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,160
Are there entries up yet? 
No, no entries yet, so. 

1205
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,360
So the entries will tell you who
got invited and who didn't get 

1206
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,400
invited among this wedding. 
Indeed. 

1207
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:03,040
Yes. 
Or it's someone that's like I 

1208
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,040
need an easy win or an easy 
paycheck, sorry I can't make it.

1209
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,040
Yeah, Is this a diamond plus 
event? 

1210
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,040
Am I going to be able to earn a 
little extra cash? 

1211
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,600
No. 
I mean, this one was, I mean, 

1212
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,120
Mondo skipped the distance that 
Curtis Marshall won at. 

1213
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:20,640
So when he couldn't get over 6 
meters in the windy conditions, 

1214
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,320
there just wasn't any recourse 
for him. 

1215
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,440
So still, Curtis Marshall is a 
member of the six meter club 

1216
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,840
where and he's got, you know, 
three World Championship bronze 

1217
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:34,040
medals. 
So it's not like some average 

1218
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Joe ended up winning. 
It was it was, it was fun, I 

1219
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:39,560
guess. 
Check out Mitch's interview with

1220
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,640
Curtis Marshall on the Sidious 
Meg YouTube channel. 

1221
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:45,320
He seemed pretty excited by it, 
but at the same time also knew 

1222
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,920
that it was like, Oh yeah, Mondo
just didn't have like the the 

1223
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,240
best day. 
So yeah, that was I put out a 

1224
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,760
fun tweet of just sort of like 
where what the world was like 

1225
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:59,160
when Mondo last lost. 
We were on the iPhone 14. 

1226
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,200
Shohei Otani was still a Angel 
at the time. 

1227
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,960
Victor Wemidiana had not made 
his NBA debut. 

1228
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,920
It was a different world back 
then in 2023. 

1229
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,480
All right, shifting gears over 
to a couple days before that, 

1230
01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:21,080
the only big result I wanted to 
unpack from Rome, just because 

1231
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:25,200
it's been so many days since, is
that men's hundred Noah Lyles 

1232
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:32,920
won over Jordan Anthony, 9.88. 
Not the fastest start, but just 

1233
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:37,160
just the best close of the 
entire field, Catches everyone 

1234
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,800
and then, you know, powers 
through the finish line. 

1235
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,720
Dominant fashion. 
Jordan Anthony, the world indoor

1236
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:48,800
60m champion, actually faded to 
4th place. 

1237
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,520
He looked good through 60 
meters. 

1238
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,840
And then actually 2nd place was 
a random guy from Cameroon, 

1239
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,680
Emmanuel SMA. 
He's been good for a while, so 

1240
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:03,320
yeah, not a big surprise, but. 
Over Tobogo I guess like and 

1241
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,320
here's The thing is like 
tobogo's just this third place 

1242
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,080
showing is the best 100m showing
I think we've seen from him in 

1243
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,760
in a in a while. 
And the other impressive 1 out 

1244
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:18,040
of this whole thing was Marcel 
Jacobs 5th place 999. 

1245
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:20,640
A good sign. 
The dude knows how to peek. 

1246
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:26,080
So maybe watch out for him to be
the European champion in the 

1247
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:31,080
100. 
But going back to Noah Mac, when

1248
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,960
we were texting about the this 
meet, you said it's like, are we

1249
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,720
sort of now starting at the 
like? 

1250
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:42,040
I think are we now at the phase 
of, like, fans should appreciate

1251
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,440
what we're watching with Noah 
because of how long he's been at

1252
01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:48,560
this level? 
And it's like, we're like, when 

1253
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,760
there is a lot of talk about, 
oh, the next guy's showing up, 

1254
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:54,280
the next guy's showing up. 
But yet Noah's still able to 

1255
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,960
come out victorious. 
It's sort of like, oh, damn. 

1256
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,960
Like, no, actually he is maybe 
the best of this generation. 

1257
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,880
Yeah. 
Well, yeah, I think he he is 

1258
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,040
certainly, yes. 
But I, I think what I said in 

1259
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:13,040
the group chat was like, we're 
at the stage of enjoy it while 

1260
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,000
you can. 
Yeah. 

1261
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:17,840
And I think that we've kind of, 
I don't know, time flies by. 

1262
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:23,120
It's been almost a decade since 
he won worlds in 2017 and in the

1263
01:13:23,120 --> 01:13:28,200
two in the 200. 
But like for short sprints, his 

1264
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,800
like that length of a career is 
nearly unheard of. 

1265
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,600
Like he's been so consistent 
year in and year out. 

1266
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,800
And I just read off like Timothy
Cheriots, you know, list of 

1267
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,600
accolades over the last decade. 
You could do the same thing for 

1268
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:47,280
Noah. 
He is aside from no because he 

1269
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,200
even got a bronze in in 21. 
Like the he's got hardware for 

1270
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,000
nearly every single year over 
the last nine years. 

1271
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,960
Oh wait, no, his first gold in 
the two was actually 2019. 

1272
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,200
That's nineteen. 
Yeah, the 28 team is Rahul 

1273
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,680
Gulen. 
Sure. 

1274
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,960
Yes, he won the diamond legs. 
Sorry. 

1275
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:06,000
In 2017. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1276
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,720
Yeah, that's a. 
Excuse me, but even even then, 

1277
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,080
his just career as a short 
spinner, the consistency, 

1278
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:17,240
consistency that he's had year 
over year. 

1279
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,640
And we've seen his competitors 
deal with these pretty serious 

1280
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,760
injuries. 
You know, his counterparts like 

1281
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,520
through his career and he's just
like remained mostly healthy. 

1282
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,480
And while he's healthy, he's 
just, he's been at the top of 

1283
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,600
the game like he rarely loses 
and he's kind of always in the 

1284
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,840
medals. 
And it's just you don't see that

1285
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,600
consistency a lot in any event. 
And I would say especially in 

1286
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,400
the short sprints. 
Well, take, take his 

1287
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,480
contemporary for example. 
It's like Christian Coleman. 

1288
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,200
It's like Trayvon Brummel. 
Well, Trayvon I guess like has 

1289
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,760
the longevity where it's 
extended over, you know, from 

1290
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:55,600
2016 to now 2026. 
But for Coleman, where he was 

1291
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,520
like the top dog for a bit, it 
didn't last for as long and it's

1292
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,200
only been in one event. 
And now even if you take Trey, 

1293
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,280
for example. 
He's been out a few years 

1294
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,120
because of injury. 
Marcel, same thing. 

1295
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:15,000
Who are we missing pre? 
Well, the Jamaicans have only 

1296
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,240
gotten good in the last couple 
of years. 

1297
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,440
They figured it out. 
A Connie Sembene was fourth 

1298
01:15:20,480 --> 01:15:24,520
place for the longest time, but 
other than that, yeah, to your 

1299
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:30,560
point back, like the sustained 
the the ability to sustain this 

1300
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:36,760
level for as long aside from 
Bolt, who who is the greatest 

1301
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,320
Yeah doesn't come around all 
that often. 

1302
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:42,960
When it comes to the 200, like 
he has an insane number of of 

1303
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,040
Diamond League wins he's got. 
Well, overall he's got 25 

1304
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:47,920
Diamond League wins. 
I think most of those are two 

1305
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,960
hundreds, but he's got a few 
hundreds sprinkled in there as 

1306
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,280
well. 
Just impressed. 

1307
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,520
And in two hundreds, I think 
he's undefeated on the Diamond 

1308
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,200
League for I don't know how 
long. 

1309
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:05,040
But it's a long time because I 
guess what he last lost to Mike 

1310
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:09,800
Norman one time, right? 
I'm looking. 

1311
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:16,200
I'm going back to 20, yeah, 2019
in yeah, in Rome. 

1312
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,040
To Michael Norman, right? 
Yeah, I think so. 

1313
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,960
So that was, yeah. 
No, it and here's the thing, 

1314
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,600
it's like 2028 is not an 
assurance like that. 

1315
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,480
He's gonna be in the same form. 
It he's looking like he'll he'll

1316
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:33,040
still be the top guy. 
But yeah, I think it's sort of 

1317
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,360
to your point. 
Appreciate it While while while 

1318
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,000
we can tune into these races 
live as they happen and and and 

1319
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,800
watch it all unfold. 
And yeah, I guess like we can 

1320
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,640
sometimes give him crap for like
the corny bits here and there, 

1321
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,640
but like, I'll give it to him. 
He's when when he's promoting a 

1322
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,160
product, he's delivering on what
the actual product is. 

1323
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:59,920
And he and he, I think the other
thing we have to give credit for

1324
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:05,520
this, this over 100 meters, 988 
for his like this early in the 

1325
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,760
season for him is really 
unusually good, right? 

1326
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:14,120
He normally runs some 10 OS and 
builds into the 9 nines and he 

1327
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,440
takes some time to build. 
Like he doesn't come out and run

1328
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:20,880
98 like day one. 
That is not in the 200. 

1329
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,320
He can do whatever he wants, 
right? 

1330
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,920
He comes out and runs 9796 in 
his opener. 

1331
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,760
That that kind of is, is what he
does. 

1332
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,120
But when it comes to the 100, it
normally takes him like some 

1333
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:35,320
some time to build up. 
So I think this is very 

1334
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:41,280
promising and quite scary that 
he has run 988 in his season 

1335
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,880
opener, effectively in the 100. 
And yeah, I and and when you 

1336
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:51,560
then look at the Lone Star Grand
Prix where it was windy and but 

1337
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,440
oblique, Seville opened up and 
came third running 991. 

1338
01:17:55,440 --> 01:18:00,320
Windy like yeah, because Shane 
Thompson nowhere to be found 

1339
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:03,440
because he's injured. 
I think a little bit, but I 

1340
01:18:03,440 --> 01:18:04,920
don't know if we'll see him 
sometime soon. 

1341
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,720
He's in, well, as in he, I think
he was. 

1342
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:10,920
He was scheduled for a couple of
the Diamond Leagues and then he 

1343
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,080
wasn't any longer. 
So I assume he is, whether he's 

1344
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,840
injured, injured or just taking 
it cautiously. 

1345
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,840
We know he's can be slightly 
injury prone, but he's not. 

1346
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,960
Yeah, he's obviously not, not 
racing at the moment. 

1347
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,800
He hasn't raced in any of the 
Jamaica meets either. 

1348
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,800
I don't think so recently. 
So yeah. 

1349
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,920
No one was like, I can't have 
Sam Blaskowski at the top of the

1350
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:41,360
US 100m list for too long. 
So now, yeah, I know it's it's 

1351
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,600
second fastest time in the world
right now 'cause then Kyensola 

1352
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:49,880
Ajayi is currently sitting as 
the world leader with his 984 at

1353
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,000
the NCAA East Regional or yeah, 
I think that was the East 

1354
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:58,960
Regional. 
But yeah, in the post race 

1355
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:04,600
comments Noah said that. 
What was it Gaut Gaut would 

1356
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,240
learn the lesson Jordan Anthony 
just did. 

1357
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:10,480
And it's just sort of once 
again, I think just building the

1358
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:16,400
hype towards this 150 that is 
set to unfold between him and 

1359
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,080
Gaut Gaut in Ostrava on June 
16th. 

1360
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:25,720
But yeah, it's it's. 
You got to give it to Noah. 

1361
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:27,760
What? 
You got to give it to Noah. 

1362
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,240
Like Noah, like, yeah, some 
people think his stuff is corny,

1363
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,360
and I've certainly been on that 
side occasionally. 

1364
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:39,520
But like the dudes doing like 
other people's jobs? 

1365
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,760
Yes, in. 
Terms of like promoting meats 

1366
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,760
and a lot of times they're not 
even like Adidas meats that in 

1367
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,880
that that he's promoting or 
races that are like backed by 

1368
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,200
brands and that's usually 
everyone's terrified to do that 

1369
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,880
and. 
The place he he famously claimed

1370
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,120
is his house is the new The New 
Balance track. 

1371
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:58,280
Right. 
And it's because he wants people

1372
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,280
to watch him run and want like 
watch the meet and stuff like 

1373
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:02,280
that. 
And you just, you have to 

1374
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,840
commend him for it. 
And he like, yeah, you may not 

1375
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:08,680
agree or love everything that 
he's doing, but he's doing. 

1376
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,320
He's doing more than other 
people. 

1377
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,720
The little video that he did 
with Marcel Jacobs where they're

1378
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,200
meeting outside of like the 
Coliseum and all that stuff, 

1379
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,840
like the the real track heads 
know it's like, oh, this is not 

1380
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,320
even a race. 
It's not even close. 

1381
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,400
But for him, like he 
understands, it's like, oh, no, 

1382
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,160
I got to promote the fact that 
it's Olympic champion versus 

1383
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,640
Olympic champion at an upcoming 
meet. 

1384
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,400
Here's where to tune in and 
watch. 

1385
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,400
It's sort of like we don't have 
anyone cutting up commercials 

1386
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,280
for these races that we want 
people to watch. 

1387
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,960
And so he's taking it upon 
himself to do that. 

1388
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,640
And so you got to commend him 
for that. 

1389
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:49,000
And yeah, I mean, you got to 
remember, sometimes it's not 

1390
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,880
necessarily for us. 
He's trying to breakthrough to 

1391
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:55,280
other people who don't already 
know, hey, this Diamond League 

1392
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,960
is happening on Sunday at 2:00 
in the afternoon or whatever. 

1393
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:04,120
So yeah, let the hype build up 
for Lyles versus gout. 

1394
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:08,040
Gout over 150 in Ostrava. 
But I'm much more interested in 

1395
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:12,320
tobogo versus gout. 
Gout over 200 on in in Oslo on 

1396
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,720
Wednesday because but here's the
thing, I don't, I don't care 

1397
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,720
about 1:50. 
I really don't. 

1398
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,240
I really, really, I think I'm 
with breed. 

1399
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,760
Yeah, yeah. 
But here's the thing again, it's

1400
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,480
not for us. 
It's for the viral 100 like 

1401
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,320
video of the 150 meters. 
It's gonna like no one knows 

1402
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:30,520
what he's doing if he beats 
Gaut. 

1403
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,840
Gaut, that's the clip that'll 
get a lot of traction online of 

1404
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,080
him. 
Like all this built up hype 

1405
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,200
around Gaut Gaut from these 
clips is now going to look even 

1406
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:45,040
better when Noah beats him. 
But the real ones, the track 

1407
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:50,360
heads know that Gaut Gaut's 18 
targeting World U 20s in Eugene.

1408
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,160
He's not necessarily peeking for
these diamond leagues or for 

1409
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,280
A-150 in Estrada. 
But it's still entertaining to 

1410
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,400
see him out there. 
And he's in the real. 

1411
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,880
And he's in the real 200 now 
against tobacco. 

1412
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,360
Yeah. 
So the Tobacco 1 is not AU 25 

1413
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,960
like designation that they've 
made for. 

1414
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,320
That was a little bit of a let 
down last year, I will admit. 

1415
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:16,040
Hey, but Kevin and Shippy was 
apparently in that race and we 

1416
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,560
didn't know that he would become
the Kevin and Shippy that we see

1417
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,800
now. 
Speaking of young guns, let's 

1418
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:28,640
quickly touch on Texas, because 
Tate Taylor ran 1997, officially

1419
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,000
the second American high 
schooler under 20 seconds 

1420
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:33,560
because the first one was Aryan 
Knighton. 

1421
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,200
Lots of sort of confusion. 
Is this a high school record? 

1422
01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:39,920
Is it not? 
Some people say it's not because

1423
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:47,640
Aryan was a pro when he ran his 
1990 or 1949. 

1424
01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:52,000
I think it was right. 
Anyway, Tay Taylor finished his 

1425
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,360
second in this one. 
He's basically nil, has changed 

1426
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,920
the whole landscape of things 
where he's basically running pro

1427
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,240
meets. 
He was just in Japan, raced out 

1428
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,920
there, now is in this gold Label
meet out in College Station. 

1429
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:11,440
But performance wise, when we 
look at this, 1997 proves he's a

1430
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:14,000
legitimate talent. 
He already holds the US high 

1431
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:20,000
school 100 meter record at 992, 
and now he's gone sub 20 in the 

1432
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,400
200. 
He's committed to Texas Tech 

1433
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,440
this fall. 
What I get excited from watching

1434
01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:31,440
this is Tay Taylor versus Gout 
Gout. 

1435
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,560
Great names, by the way, at the 
World U20 Championships in 

1436
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,520
Eugene in August. 
Both are 18 years old. 

1437
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:42,160
Both have gone under 20 seconds.
They've never raced each other. 

1438
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,960
And so honestly, I see this 
performance and it's building 

1439
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,920
towards something like that. 
But other than that, I mean, it 

1440
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,200
was a good he he actually didn't
even win the race. 

1441
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:58,960
What Maca Churamba ended up 
renting a personal best of 1988,

1442
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:02,400
but it's the high school kid who
steals the headlines pre. 

1443
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,800
Did you extrapolate anything 
else from this one? 

1444
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,720
No just the house deep in the 
whole high school records thing 

1445
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,840
is and well apparently Isama 
singer is also the Co like 

1446
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:17,640
record holder because he ran 
1997 and he was AUS high 

1447
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,920
schooler at the time. 
But who knows how that ties into

1448
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:21,840
it as well. 
And. 

1449
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,360
So was he? 
Did he just graduate? 

1450
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,240
And again, this is the whole 
confusion of the whole thing, 

1451
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:28,360
right? 
Why? 

1452
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:33,680
It's like, why I think, and now 
we're at a stage where high 

1453
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,800
school record is just 
overcomplicating it. 

1454
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,000
Unless you want to say this is 
what was run at a high school 

1455
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:40,640
meet, right? 
If you want to keep it that 

1456
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:44,880
simple that they ran this time 
at high school meets fine. 

1457
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,160
But what happens when a high 
school meet brings in a 

1458
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:53,200
professional to pace the race? 
Yeah, as I say, but I think the 

1459
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:55,840
yeah, as in like, you know, just
a pure high school meet with 

1460
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,960
high schoolers and that's all 
the competition and that then 

1461
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,640
fine, you can have high school 
records. 

1462
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,720
Otherwise just make it AU 18 
record or AU20 record or 

1463
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,000
whatever you want to call it and
make it US or whichever country.

1464
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:09,600
Like just keep it really simple 
because otherwise there's just 

1465
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,440
no carryover. 
I don't think even people in the

1466
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,600
US understand what high school 
they don't know the technical 

1467
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:19,520
bits of track and field news. 
We realized the Erin Knighton 

1468
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:21,880
signed as a pro, Cooper Lukin 
House is now a pro. 

1469
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,520
So he can't set high school 
records anymore, but he could. 

1470
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,080
Incredible moment for. 
The previous last year like it's

1471
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,440
it's just I I I, I know I really
shouldn't care about US high 

1472
01:25:32,440 --> 01:25:34,240
school records, but it just gets
my goat. 

1473
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,080
That is really dumb. 
I've had this roundabout and. 

1474
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:38,320
I think I'm with you, Preet. 
I'm with you Preet. 

1475
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,760
We just go with age group 
records. 

1476
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,080
We have, we keep it very, very 
simple here in Britain. 

1477
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:47,600
We have power of 10. 
We to be fair, GB also had a 

1478
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,280
stupid thing because they use 
different age groups and World 

1479
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:52,360
Athletics. 
So they use odd numbered age 

1480
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:53,880
groups instead of even numbered 
age groups. 

1481
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,520
But I think last year they've 
aligned that. 

1482
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,200
So yeah, there were stupid 
things going on in, in GB as 

1483
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,000
well. 
But like, you know, I, I just 

1484
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,720
think we're trying to sell this 
sport. 

1485
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,080
We're trying to encourage people
to invest in this sport. 

1486
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,360
Let's keep it as simple as we 
can. 

1487
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,240
Let's try and make it 
accessible. 

1488
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,160
Because then when you see it 
somewhere else and it's not in 

1489
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,840
the high school context, maybe 
it can carry over to a wider 

1490
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:21,080
context. 
But at the moment it's just too 

1491
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,000
complicated and people will just
not. 

1492
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,600
I just don't. 
Yeah. 

1493
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,280
People just don't understand. 
There's no such thing. 

1494
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,240
So, yeah. 
All right. 

1495
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,840
So that was Tay Taylor. 
The other big performance out of

1496
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,040
the Grand Prix that took place 
in College Station was Gabby 

1497
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,760
Thomas clocking 21, seven third 
fastest time of her career, her 

1498
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:50,880
best since running 21/6 at the 
US Championships in July 2023. 

1499
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,120
She ran a great curve to take 
the lead into the straight one. 

1500
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,800
Dominant fashion. 
The track had been flipped I 

1501
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,960
think because of the wind 
conditions and so she ended up 

1502
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:07,600
with a + .7 tailwind. 
But what was it? 

1503
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,600
Anderson noted that the race 
before her had like some crazy 

1504
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:17,120
positive, like non legal wind. 
So this was a really good 

1505
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,160
performance. 
It's the fastest that we've ever

1506
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:22,320
seen any woman run, I think 
before June 15th. 

1507
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:28,080
And so then you've got Julian 
Alfred already having run 2193 

1508
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:30,320
in Rome, beating Melissa 
Jefferson Wooden. 

1509
01:27:30,480 --> 01:27:33,360
Sharika Jackson ran 21/8 back in
May. 

1510
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,240
The two women's 200 landscape is
really taking shape. 

1511
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,480
And I think even after this 
performance, maybe I still give 

1512
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:48,440
the edge to Sharika over Gabby 
because I, I don't know, like, I

1513
01:27:48,440 --> 01:27:54,440
want to see this not in Texas 
and, you know, with more 

1514
01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:58,240
competition. 
But All in all, you can't over 

1515
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:02,000
hype the women's 200 right now. 
She's in great form heading into

1516
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,280
the championship part of the 
season. 

1517
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:06,160
She doesn't necessarily even 
have to run USAS because it's 

1518
01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,520
the reigning Olympic champion. 
She has her spot for the World 

1519
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:13,080
Ultimate Championships. 
So don't be surprised if you see

1520
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:17,200
Gabby be a bit more selective in
her race election going forward 

1521
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,480
this season. 
Yeah, I mean, like she hasn't 

1522
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:24,200
left the OR she was in Africa 
for the first part of the the 

1523
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:28,360
outdoor campaign, but she hasn't
touched the Diamond League 

1524
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:33,520
circuit just quite yet, but. 
Yeah, adding Julian Alfred and 

1525
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:37,480
Melissa Jefferson Wooden to the 
mix like that's, that's maybe 

1526
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:42,040
your one of, if not the best 
event, you know, that we have 

1527
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:46,680
right now that women's 200 is, 
is so good, so, so good. 

1528
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:51,560
So I hope we get to see them all
race each other at some point 

1529
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,600
this year. 
Well, even if it just to that. 

1530
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,000
Probably won't happen, but. 
Until the ultimate champs. 

1531
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,520
I bet you we still don't see all
of them, but I'll be hopeful. 

1532
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:05,240
Yeah, Preet. 
Who do you give the nod to? 

1533
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:11,760
If it's Gabby, Julian, MJW, 
Sharika, they're all capable of 

1534
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:14,880
running 21/8 right now. 
But. 

1535
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,120
I mean, if if Sharika stays 
healthy, it's got to be Sharika 

1536
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:21,920
because I think like the 
trajectory and the upside there.

1537
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,200
I mean, with Gabby, look, it's 
interesting. 

1538
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,320
This is her fastest time outside
of Eugene because she's run her 

1539
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:33,840
221 six performances in Eugene 
and fastest time outside the US 

1540
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:37,040
is the 2181 to win win the Paris
Olympics. 

1541
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:43,320
SO21 7AT College Station is a 
good stepping stone to kind of 

1542
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,440
performing outside of Eugene in 
terms. 

1543
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:47,840
Of people talk about Gabby the 
way they talk about Australia, 

1544
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:52,200
Australia, but. 
Yeah, as in I think look, and I 

1545
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,200
think this is the bit where I 
know Gab because Gabby has come 

1546
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,240
out and run on the Diamond 
League and she hasn't 

1547
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,680
necessarily, like she hasn't 
necessarily had the best time of

1548
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:02,520
it. 
She's had a couple of good 

1549
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,800
performances in London and 
stuff, but that London. 

1550
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:07,960
Race is epic all timer. 
Yeah, that was an epic race. 

1551
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,360
But you know, in terms of times 
and stuff like she hasn't had 

1552
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,320
the, she hasn't had quite the 
success. 

1553
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:18,920
She hasn't done as many Diamond 
leagues and I, I do wonder 

1554
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,360
whether that would be a good 
thing for her to do right, just 

1555
01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:24,640
because she but she is a 
consummate championship 

1556
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,440
performer at the end of the day.
She's gone to Paris, she's won a

1557
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:30,240
medal, she's gone to Tokyo 
Olympics, she's won a medal. 

1558
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,880
She's, you know, every time 
she's turned up healthy at 

1559
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,200
championship, she's won, won a 
medal. 

1560
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:40,840
So she's, she's clearly got that
championship side of things down

1561
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,360
pat. 
And so maybe she's like, I'm 

1562
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,360
cool with what I'm doing. 
I don't care about the diamond 

1563
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,680
leagues, why should I? 
So maybe that's, that's it. 

1564
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:51,920
But obviously for the rest of us
who want to see more of these 

1565
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,960
match ups on the circuit because
it builds the storyline and 

1566
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:58,240
makes it interesting. 
I, I, I would like to see like 

1567
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,240
it was great to see Julian 
versus Melissa. 

1568
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:04,720
And obviously that was Melissa's
first defeat in a year right in 

1569
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,680
in Rome. 
She, she was unbeaten all of 

1570
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:11,240
last year and, and then 
obviously she bounced back and 

1571
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:15,000
in Stockholm she won the 100 and
posted a solid 1084. 

1572
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:18,200
So you know, it's, and I think 
she was very pleased because 

1573
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,920
that 200 time is still way 
better than a season open in the

1574
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:25,520
200 last year. 
So like I, I, I think it is, 

1575
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,320
it's a really exciting landscape
all around. 

1576
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:31,120
And you've got your e-mail or 
Weibo maybe coming into that. 

1577
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:35,200
Amy Hunt looks like she's 
finally rounding into form, so 

1578
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:36,960
does she put herself back in the
mix as well? 

1579
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,920
Like I, I think it is quite 
exciting. 

1580
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:44,400
In the hundred, I'm proposing A 
segment to you live just a 

1581
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:49,480
really quick like SparkNotes 
shout out, just like 1 liners at

1582
01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:51,120
the end of these things. 
Of what? 

1583
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,560
Of what we talked about. 
No, no, no, no. 

1584
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,880
Of like other people. 
Like other things that happened.

1585
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,400
Other things. 
Other things that happened, Trey

1586
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:05,040
Cunningham went sub 13. 
OK, well you only, you only get 

1587
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,840
like 2. 
I'll say you only get 2. 

1588
01:32:10,040 --> 01:32:13,200
Well, the trade cutting of going
sub 13 was really good. 

1589
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,520
What else Allison do Santa still
looks good. 

1590
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,080
That's not I'm not gonna burn it
on that. 

1591
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:23,880
I think that's. 
That's yours. 

1592
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,240
That's fine. 
That's, that's, I'm, I'm gonna 

1593
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:30,520
say shout out Vince Ciotti for 
back-to-back 4th place finishes 

1594
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:32,160
in the men's 15 that Diamond 
leagues. 

1595
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,000
Dude's on a roll right now. 
He's racing out. 

1596
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:37,880
I don't want to say out of his 
mind because he is this good, 

1597
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,520
but he's just racing really 
well. 

1598
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,840
And then shout out Nikki hilts 
openly has talked about wanting 

1599
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:47,880
to work on their like pulling 
from the front of these big 

1600
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:51,480
races. 
So yeah, what a what a what a 

1601
01:32:51,480 --> 01:32:54,520
better stage than a Diamond 
League for Nikki to like work on

1602
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,480
taking the lead at the bell, 
finished this second. 

1603
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,240
But I just love seeing athletes 
that openly talk about what they

1604
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:02,280
want to work on and then 
actually working on it. 

1605
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,240
Really cool. 
OK, I got my other one, my other

1606
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:09,600
SparkNotes, Agnes and Getich. 
Just yeah, absolutely crushing 

1607
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:14,120
Central Park dominant 
performance at the Mini 10K. 

1608
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:17,960
When I talked to her afterwards,
she was like, yeah, you know, I 

1609
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:21,200
was basically going to wait 
around till after 800. 

1610
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:22,720
I was like, all right, I'm 
tired, I'm going to go. 

1611
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,800
And she just took off and 
blasted the whole entire field. 

1612
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,840
Handily beat Siggy Geber, Salama
and Helen O'berry. 

1613
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:31,960
The top American was Emily 
Ventures. 

1614
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:36,680
But Agnes and Gettych makes me 
excited for what her marathon 

1615
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:41,280
potential could be. 
Because if you look back to just

1616
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:45,320
sort of what her head to head 
record is against footian 

1617
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:50,720
Tessfe, the woman who ran 210, 
she's she's beaten her and I 

1618
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:56,880
think and she debuted in 210. 
So what does the marathon hold 

1619
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,400
for Agnes and Getich? 
I don't necessarily know if 

1620
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:03,680
we'll find out of what her true 
potential could be over the 

1621
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:07,840
marathon and how fast she can go
if she doesn't choose a flat 

1622
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:10,960
race. 
So she's already run the NYC 

1623
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:14,640
half, now run the mini 10K. 
So if she chooses to make a 

1624
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,360
marathon debut this fall, then 
New York could make sense. 

1625
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:23,480
A great season for Agnes and 
Getich would be we've already 

1626
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:26,960
saw this mini 10K. 
Maybe she jumps on the track, 

1627
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:32,360
say Monaco, Diamond League 
ultimate champs, run the 5K 

1628
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,680
there. 
World road running champs, run 

1629
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:38,400
the half marathon, blast the 
field there and then go make 

1630
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,240
your marathon debut in New York.
That'd be a hell of a year. 

1631
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:46,840
So Big Agnes and Getich fan, 
especially after talking to her 

1632
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,120
for the podcast. 
So we're going to have an 

1633
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,200
episode with her coming out this
week as well. 

1634
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:56,720
I may have made her cry, but 
it's, you know, I think one 

1635
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,840
thing that I've picked up on, 
and this is this goes for 

1636
01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:00,120
actually some of the podcast 
listeners. 

1637
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,160
If you've made it this far into 
the show, then you're a pretty 

1638
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:07,200
devout listener. 
I understand that the metrics 

1639
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:10,880
sometimes and the analytics of 
these episodes with, you know, 

1640
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:14,400
people whose first language 
isn't English can sometimes be a

1641
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:18,280
little bit of a tougher listen. 
And so I see that, oh, OK, 

1642
01:35:18,400 --> 01:35:22,440
people didn't listen to this 
190, you know, 90% of the way 

1643
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:24,720
through. 
Maybe they, you know, taper off 

1644
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:27,600
after 60% of the episode or 70% 
of the episode. 

1645
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,840
But really the reason I do these
is not for the number of 

1646
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,680
downloads it's going to get. 
It's so that it adds character 

1647
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:39,480
to the person that you're 
watching like right now to a big

1648
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:42,800
population of people. 
They see these results from 

1649
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:45,960
Agnes and Getich and they just 
assume, oh, really fast Kenyan 

1650
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,000
athlete. 
But what you don't necessarily 

1651
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,440
know is all of the hardships 
that came along in her 

1652
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:54,640
childhood. 
And so that is kind of like the 

1653
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:58,120
goal of like, OK, this isn't 
going to get the most amount of 

1654
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:03,080
downloads. 
And you know, she isn't as clear

1655
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,160
cut and well spoken as a Clayton
Young or Conor Manse on the on 

1656
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,200
the podcast. 
But hopefully you walk away 

1657
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,280
understanding and knowing her 
better the next time she races 

1658
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,080
and being like, oh, actually, 
you know what? 

1659
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,080
I'm rooting for her because, you
know, I think I know a little 

1660
01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:21,200
bit more about her. 
And so look out for that episode

1661
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:24,960
over the next couple days and 
excited to share more. 

1662
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:31,240
We've got LA Grand Prix taking 
place this weekend and then also

1663
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:37,760
the NCAA Championships. 
We've got a 2 time 1500m 

1664
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,120
champion. 
So to close this out, Mac, 

1665
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:46,280
you're NCAA 1500 men's 
prediction who you got? 

1666
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,360
Oh, I think this is on the This 
is on the spot. 

1667
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,200
Does Simeon win it? 
I I hope so. 

1668
01:36:53,440 --> 01:36:56,760
I OK. 
I root for anyone that is 

1669
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:02,920
willing to like engage publicly,
you know, with competitors, I 

1670
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,000
would say. 
And like him and Marco, like 

1671
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,840
it's a clean it's plus the 
fight. 

1672
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:14,640
Yeah. 
But yeah, that that's they've 

1673
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,320
just like both been talking a 
little bit and I I absolutely 

1674
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,200
love it. 
But yeah, I'm rooting for for 

1675
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,600
Simeon, like winning at home at 
Hayward. 

1676
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,400
There's absolutely nothing like 
it and I hope he gets it done. 

1677
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:31,120
All right, does Marco win 1? 
Oh, it's gotta be hard. 

1678
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:33,560
That's gonna, It's just 
everyone. 

1679
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,680
It's gonna be a battle. 
I'm, I'm looking at who the 1500

1680
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:42,320
has and what is it. 
It's gonna be Simeon versus 

1681
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:46,880
Trent McFarland versus Brian 
Masai. 

1682
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:48,000
I forgot about that. 
Arkansas. 

1683
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:52,520
No versus cut the BYU kid. 
Cuttier. 

1684
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,360
Cuttier, Oh, Cutter. 
Who won indoors? 

1685
01:37:55,480 --> 01:37:56,320
Carter. 
Cutting. 

1686
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:03,960
Cutting, sorry Carter cutting. 
He's a dog and similarly OK, so 

1687
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,600
like if we're making this about 
me since you did Chris, thank 

1688
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,280
you. 
I never went into NCAA's with 

1689
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:15,160
like I don't think a top three 
time so and I also never lost to

1690
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:19,920
an American in an NCAA final. 
So you don't have to have the 

1691
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,000
fastest time going into NCAA's 
to win. 

1692
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:26,760
So that's why I Carter Cutting 
did very well indoors and I 

1693
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:28,680
presume he's going to do very 
well outdoors. 

1694
01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:30,040
I wouldn't be surprised if he 
wins. 

1695
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,000
Wait, so your prediction is 
still Simeon? 

1696
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,720
Yeah, I'm rooting for Simeon. 
I want to see I want to see a 

1697
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:40,360
Ducks win, but I Carter Cutting 
will be there. 

1698
01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:41,560
There's no and. 
They're not. 

1699
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:47,160
They're not running 331. 
You're your prediction at the 

1700
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:48,760
beginning of the year didn't 
really pan out. 

1701
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,160
No, absolutely not. 
I think we're enjoying a 

1702
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:54,640
freshman year. 
No Owen Powell. 

1703
01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,160
It's OK, It's OK. 
Yeah. 

1704
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:01,000
We'll just, hey, we'll, we'll 
kick the can to sophomore year. 

1705
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:05,640
Owen Powell to win his first 
Diamond League. 

1706
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,960
Yes. 
There we go. 

1707
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,800
All right, well, that does it 
for another episode of this week

1708
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,080
in track and field. 
We will come back at you next 

1709
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,040
week with a recap of all the 
action that goes down in Los 

1710
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:22,760
Angeles and also out in Eugene. 
We may have some podcast 

1711
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:27,240
dispatches from Polly Throws 
since he'll be in Eugene 

1712
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:31,600
gathering interviews, so stay 
tuned to that on the podcast 

1713
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,880
feed if that materializes. 
But Next up episode with Agnes 

1714
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:39,720
and Getich and that does it. 
We'll see you guys next step. 

1715
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,760
All right, that's a wrap on 
today's episode. 

1716
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,760
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1717
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:49,480
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1718
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,840
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1719
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:55,840
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1720
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:58,280
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1724
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1725
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