1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,440 It is January 20th, I'm Chris Chavez. 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:14,880 I'm and it looks like we've got the first real sign that it is 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,160 2026 and the indoor season is underway. 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,560 We had 19 year old Aussie Cam Myers go to Seattle and blast at 5 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,680 349 mile on the UW oversized track. 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,360 We also started to get some bread crumbs of the stars 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,640 starting to plan out when they're going to step out onto 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,560 the track with Keely Hodgkinson making some plans. 9 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,280 Femka Bulls coach has spoken out about when we might see her the 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,840 first time over 800 meters. We're also going to preview the 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,360 new Bounds Indoor Grand Prix taking place in Boston this 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,880 upcoming weekend, which has some pretty strong and intriguing not 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 only fields, but distances being offered up. 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,640 Plus, we'll share our reactions to the 2026 Boston Marathon 15 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,920 women's elite field that got released earlier today. 16 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:13,520 And maybe Preet can also take a stab at educating us on the 17 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,160 qualifying process for the World Indoor Championships. 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,560 And yeah, I guess like, let's start with that Preet, I guess 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,320 'cause it's it, there's so many of these races taking place over 20 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:27,840 the next coming weeks will be geared towards that. 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Yes, New Balance Indoor Grand Prix and Melrose Games are maybe 22 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,360 some of the more loaded regular season, regular indoor season 23 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,040 meets before each country's national championships and then 24 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,720 ultimately the World Championships, which will be 25 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,280 taking place in Poland later this year. 26 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,880 Pre, congratulations, you got your credential accepted today, 27 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,680 so we'll have boots on the ground there. 28 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,200 But I guess let's lay it out for people. 29 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,760 How do you qualify for the World Indoor Championships? 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,640 So the good thing is the World Indoor Championships qualifying 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,360 is a little bit simpler than the outdoor World Championships 32 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,840 qualifying. And I think part of the reason 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,880 for that is this whole idea of world rankings and stuff doesn't 34 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,720 really work when you've got a really short indoor season and 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,000 they they've tried various formula and you then just had a 36 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,720 bunch of people qualified from the outdoor season based on 37 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,160 times they've run or on their world ranking from outdoors. 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,760 In the most ridiculous part of it was in the combined events 39 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,840 where, you know, people were qualifying based on a completely 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,120 different event effectively. So they have shaken that up a 41 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,280 little bit. I don't think they've fixed the 42 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,280 combined events unfortunately, because it's quite difficult to 43 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,200 fix. But, but in the other events 44 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,680 what they have done is they've said look the qualifying window 45 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,840 is now from the 1st of November up until I think it's the 7th or 46 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,920 the 8th of March. So it's a very small window. 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,560 What that means is that people in general are not going to run 48 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,880 enough races. You know to get a world ranking 49 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,320 you normally have to run 5 races or or compete in five events. 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,960 If you're a field eventer that doesn't really work. 51 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,120 So what they have done is they have set a qualifying standard. 52 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:16,480 If you achieve the qualifying standard, you're in and if not, 53 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,280 they go basically down the descending order list of 54 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,000 performances. So it's literally the people 55 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,680 who've run the quickest in the qualifying window. 56 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,920 And interestingly, because we have seen some Jamaicans for 57 00:03:30,920 --> 00:03:34,000 example, running 60 meters outdoors, they have said wind 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,120 aided times. So I guess if you have a 59 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,200 headwind you're fine, but wind aided times will not be allowed. 60 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,880 And still though, like when you're going down to the 61 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,720 descending order list, the the country cap at 2 athletes per 62 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,200 country still applies. Correct. 63 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,440 It's two athletes per country unless you have a wild card, 64 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,960 Yes. And actually let me just double 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,600 check what the wild card is or actually do they even have a 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,240 wild card? I don't even know if they've got 67 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 a wild card this time, but. Yeah, actually I don't. 68 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Remember the world No, they've only got the World Indoor Tour 69 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,160 wild card, so they don't invite back world indoor champions. 70 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,800 So they've said the overall, the individual overall winner of 71 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,880 each event of the World Indoor Tour 2026 will be will 72 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,160 automatically qualify for the World Athletics Indoor 73 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,360 Championships. Now the reality is that I think 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,720 anyone who gets a wild card is probably going to have 75 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,800 qualified, but the only advantage it offers is you can 76 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,440 have 1/3 athlete qualify that for. 77 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,240 Now a question mark here that might pop up is when these meets 78 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,160 are running, which we'll get to later on in this episode. 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Just some like strange distances like does a 600 performance 80 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,640 count towards an athlete's 800? Cause like Josh Hoey ran the 600 81 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:59,000 in Boston last month, running the 800 in Boston this upcoming 82 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:07,080 weekend and the mile at Melrose. So how does what is the 600 play 83 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 into anything? No, I don't think it plays into 84 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,400 anything and that and that that it does in world rankings. 85 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,280 And this is where I think the difference is right. 86 00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:17,520 So in world rankings you can count similar events. 87 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,920 You can't have all of your things like you can't get a a 88 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,360 400 or an 800 ranking just by running 6 hundreds. 89 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,240 But you can have like if you have to have 5 performances, you 90 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,120 can have a couple of performances in off events as it 91 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,160 were. But for this there are 92 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:37,880 qualifying standards for this specific event, 604008153K60 93 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,760 hurdles and then the field events, high jump, pole vault, 94 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,200 long jump, triple jump and shopper. 95 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:49,480 So all of those events, they have a qualifying standard, The 96 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,520 one that is the hardest to achieve because it's got the 97 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,400 smallest field is a 3K because it's a state straight final. 98 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,880 So the 3K time that you need is 835 for women or 733 for men. 99 00:06:01,840 --> 00:06:04,000 I think it, that's actually a little bit easier than it was 100 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,120 last year because I think it was 730 last year for the men. 101 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:08,800 So, and, and I think the reason for that is because it's a 102 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,400 straight final, they can't afford to have 20-30 people hit 103 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,160 that standard. So they are making the standard 104 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,080 insanely hard. We'll get ready for the Milrose 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,960 2 mile where they will take the 3K split, but then everyone's 106 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:28,920 still going an extra lap. So the final 400 of the Milrose 107 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,520 2 Mile is going to be like especially fast because there 108 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,000 will be athletes in those fields potentially, you know, trying to 109 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,240 get a mark that will get them a spot for world indoors. 110 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,280 Exactly. And I think there's this exact 111 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:45,920 example, like Laura Muir qualified for World Indoors by 112 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,840 winning the two mile couple. Oh, no, she didn't. 113 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:50,040 Well, she did win win the two mile a couple of years ago 114 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:53,280 because the athlete that actually won had kind of got 115 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,240 dequeued because she she sort of cut into Ellie. 116 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,240 I remember that. But she was actually very 117 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,480 focused not on winning the race, she was focused on her 3K split 118 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,000 to get the qualifying time for World Indoors. 119 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,000 So that was, you know, but but that is the kind of thing that 120 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,760 you may well see some athletes going all out for the 3K and not 121 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,080 the two mile, not caring too much about the the result of the 122 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,240 two mile possibly, but especially if they're not, you 123 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,120 know, not in necessarily the mix for the win. 124 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,200 So but yeah, yeah. So the mile obviously is the 125 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 same same thing. So people are running a mile, 126 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,480 they'll obviously be looking for that 1500 split as well to, to 127 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,120 get the qualifying time, which is 336 for men and the four O 6 128 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,600 were women. So that is a little bit easier. 129 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,280 But that is because there are 30 entries in the field. 130 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,960 And obviously it's indoors. So in theory, you know, Jakob is 131 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,920 the only guy who's broken 330 indoors, I think. 132 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,960 So it's not it's not necessarily a a an easy place to run 133 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,720 stupidly fast. People are already running 134 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,640 quick. There's wait. 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 I just saw Muhammad out of Tui. He ran like a a personal best. 136 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Was it 330 5336 ish for 1500? And he's an 800 specialist Mark 137 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:13,440 English and his first 800 since the Tokyo World Champs breaks 138 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,480 the Irish indoor 800 meter record. 139 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Now we'll see how long that stands because Kean Mcphillips 140 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,800 is going to run at the Milrose Games and we've got such a fun 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,360 rivalry forming between those two guys. 142 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,760 But yeah, I mean, the indoor season in full swing. 143 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,280 There was that meet that was out in Luxembourg that, you know, 144 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,440 gave us a couple results here and there. 145 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,880 And then at UW we saw Cam Myers run 349. 146 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,880 He'll be in the Is he in the 2K this weekend in Boston? 147 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Yes, I think. Which that 2K has Grant Fisher, 148 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,400 Jake Whiteman. So we know that Cam Myers is in 149 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,560 great form. And then we'll see just sort of 150 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:59,880 like our first preview of, you know, how good the the other two 151 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,800 guys are. Because he's in the first slate 152 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,440 to run, he's in the three. 3K, yeah, yeah, which we'll talk 153 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:09,560 about in a bit because there's this New Balance Indoor Grand 154 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:15,680 Prix is offering up a men's 600 and an 800 and then a men's 2K 155 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:20,720 and a 3K and Preet got some feelings about it. 156 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:26,160 All right, so really quick on just some newsy bits from the 157 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,080 past week. Keely Hodgkinson, who is the 158 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,480 reigning Olympic champion in the 800 meters and deep into 159 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,520 training right now out in South Africa with the M11 track club, 160 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,960 scratch the entire 2025 indoor season. 161 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:48,000 But for fans, it looks like she'll be back in action very 162 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:53,400 soon with the with the leave and meet out in France on February 163 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,000 19th. And then she has committed so 164 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 far and accepted her spot for the British Indoor 165 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Championships. So presumably, I guess this 166 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,080 means a full indoor season with her possibly going all the way 167 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,080 through the World Indoor Championships, which would be a 168 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,440 lot of fun to see because she's one of the biggest stars in the 169 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,480 reigning Olympic champ. Yeah, I mean, she's tried to run 170 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,680 wild indoors quite a few times and every time it's gone wrong. 171 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:26,440 I think she literally was in, was it Belgrade in was it 2023 172 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,040 and she had to or 2022 and she had to. 173 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,480 She was literally there and she had an injury and warm up. 174 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,560 So it's kind of not been her luck with indoors. 175 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:39,440 Obviously last year she literally pulled out the day of 176 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,720 or the day before the Kili Classic, which is obviously her 177 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,120 event. And actually funnily enough, the 178 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,240 Kili Classic was supposed to be happening this year. 179 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,800 It got cancelled. The Levan meet is literally 180 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,920 about two days before that. That event was scheduled for 181 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,880 this year. So I guess she has kind of 182 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,400 swapped that in. But Levan is obviously a place 183 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,560 you go to run fast. And I think last year she was 184 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:04,200 very vocal about breaking that world indoor record in the end 185 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,400 of meeting. I don't know if she's going for 186 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,040 that in Levan, but given that's where Yaka broke the mile and 187 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,280 1500 world record last year, I wouldn't be surprised if that's 188 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:18,360 what she is looking to do. Lots of hill work as far as I've 189 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,800 been seeing on the M11 page and what coach Trevor Painter and 190 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Jenny Meadows is putting that group through right now. 191 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,440 Also fun thing that I caught just in the last couple days is 192 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:33,000 and I don't know if Georgia Hunter Bell broke some sort of 193 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:40,200 like embargo or or confidential just sort of secret seal on Nike 194 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:45,520 testing these like skin tight suits, similar to I guess like 195 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,320 what faith could be a gun wore during breaking 4. 196 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,760 But both her and Keely Hodgkinson and I believe Elise 197 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,640 Cranny, we're all wearing it. And it looked like Nike had some 198 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,200 of their sports research team down there as well. 199 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,200 So always being innovative. And maybe it's a glimpse of 200 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:10,640 what, you know, the swoosh might be rolling out come 20272028. 201 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,160 Who knows how far out like these projects come to be. 202 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,120 But I found that interesting. I was like, oh, all right, like 203 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,760 sounds like the cat suit is is going to be coming back and 204 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,920 we've got our first glimpse of it with with faith. 205 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,640 I, I thought it was a little bit, I like the suit could not 206 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,880 have added that or reduced that much more time. 207 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,440 So it's like we're still sort of looking for the little areas. 208 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,200 And I think footwear is the biggest place to try and make as 209 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,160 many marginal gains as possible. Like you give a shoe designer 210 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,760 44mm for the road and like they can do a lot within that space, 211 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,600 20, 23, whatever it is and on the track ends up being a little 212 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,880 bit more limiting. So you got to look to other 213 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,600 places and it looks like Nike is looking at the the cat suit. 214 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,480 Direction though, I wonder if anyone ever brings back the OR 215 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,760 maybe I don't know whether it's banned, but the the catty 216 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,600 Freeman, the catty Freeman suit exactly yeah, the full the full 217 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:08,920 head. You know that with that, but 218 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,840 obviously they banned that in they banned the the suits in 219 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,320 swimming, right. So that that kind of because 220 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,400 they had a similar impact that everyone was was swimming so 221 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,640 fast that that they had to ban them completely because it was 222 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,760 just getting ridiculous. So. 223 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,160 Those were polyurethane I think. Yeah, there was some kind of 224 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,760 special like all over suits, right that were yeah that people 225 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,680 were using. Now we're now we're thinking 226 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,840 it's like, what about a polyurethane speed suit for for 227 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:35,600 track? Yeah. 228 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,280 All right, other newsy bit would be that Femka Bulls coach 229 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,840 Laurent Muley has said that she could race in 800 indoors either 230 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,440 in February or March, but that she's unlikely to run the 800 at 231 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,640 the World Indoor Championships. So not entirely showing her 232 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,880 cards against the best in the world just quite yet. 233 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,960 But you know that this is going to be a season long experiment 234 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:06,840 for Femka's foray to the 800. I think they're also in South 235 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,960 Africa right now and getting some altitude training in. 236 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,400 And it's fun to see Coach Muley like I think is like 237 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,120 accompanying some of the athletes like on their longer 238 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,760 stuff because I'm sure Femka is like not used to having to run 239 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:28,920 as long and incorporating some of that more, not necessarily 240 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:33,560 threshold work, but it's the the, the aerobic. 241 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,080 They're really trying to improve her aerobic capacity. 242 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,480 So your thoughts on, I guess like Femka stepping out into the 243 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,760 800, but not entirely it like it, it sounds like the the 244 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,360 Netherlands team will have to use her like on the relays if 245 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:51,000 they want to have any sort of semblance of success at the 246 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,360 world indoor Championships. Like she'll have to be part of 247 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,920 like the four by 4/4 by or mixed 4x4 because without her, I guess 248 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,800 like it's a different, it's a different caliber team. 249 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,520 Yeah, I mean, I, I think they, they said in that same, same 250 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,800 article that that she was planning still potentially to 251 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:13,200 run the relays at World Indoors. But yes, I, I, it doesn't sound 252 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,480 like she's running that she, she's not that likely to run the 253 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,160 800 at World Indoors. And obviously we, we really do 254 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,840 want to see what she can do, right. 255 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,800 And her coach has said she might run, she might not. 256 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,160 And, and I think we, we spent a bit of time speculating what 257 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,440 time we thought she could run and we had different opinions, I 258 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,480 think, but we're all on the side of she'll break 2. 259 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,520 Will she break? Will she will she get, you know, 260 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,560 will it be 159 one 58157 will be like how far will she go? 261 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,960 I think we were of a mind that she's probably not going to go 262 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,080 out and run 154 in her first year doing it. 263 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,440 But but it's, it's a long term move. 264 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,400 So I think it's something where, you know, I think it will be a 265 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,240 really good achievement if she gets to something like 158 or 266 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,720 157 this year and then could potentially build from that. 267 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,480 So yeah, but we'll we'll have to see how that goes. 268 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,480 But I but I am very excited. She's always a fun athlete to 269 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,760 watch and her doing something as exciting as this is is going to 270 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,880 be going to be fun. I guess a good year indoors 271 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:23,440 would be break 2 indoors if you give this a go and then come 272 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,360 outdoors, like just have a solid progression where you get to. 273 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,160 Do you think 157 in the final at Europeans gets you a medal? 274 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,960 Because obviously someone like Keely or Georgia Hunter Bell 275 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,840 would be the favorites if they if they race at the European 276 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,600 Championships. But then after, and I mean 277 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,360 Audrey Werro actually also might be a force there. 278 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,840 So it's like, maybe I maybe I'm wrong and 157 doesn't 279 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,240 necessarily get you a medal come the European Championships. 280 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,280 No, exactly. I mean, I think we've got some 281 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,640 really exciting like the the championships. 282 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,480 You, you think, oh, it's only European, it's only Commonwealth 283 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,200 come the summer. But I'm sure I will be raving 284 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,360 about those when, when we get a bit close to the time, because I 285 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,480 think both the Commonwealth Games and the Europeans are 286 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:08,440 crazy strong fields in, in a lot of the middle distances. 287 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,720 So there's a, there's a lot to to look forward to. 288 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:19,000 And yeah, I, I do think Famke might struggle to, to, to medal 289 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:23,119 but in her first year, but I, I have no doubt. 290 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,599 But but then again, you know, this is the thing. 291 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:28,160 We saw what Sydney did in the 400 and we knew what she was 292 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,080 kind of capable of. But to do it in the way that she 293 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:38,080 did it like, and yes, we know that Femka wasn't as close to 294 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,280 Sydney as we might like, but she was still out there from a world 295 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,600 perspective. She's the only person you know, 296 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,000 she's won 49, won indoors for, for the, for the 400. 297 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:55,000 So I, you know, she has a lot of unexplored potential in the four 298 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,880 hundreds. And I think it, there's every 299 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,280 possibility without hurdle strength that it could translate 300 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,800 because we've seen what someone like Anna Hall can do. 301 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:08,680 Not really training for the 800 running 201 after six events. 302 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:12,200 And she's essentially A400400 hurdler. 303 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Kind of that's her kind of if she was doing one event, she'd 304 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,080 be a 400 hurdler. So yeah, I think there's every 305 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,160 possibility that that it translates really well for 306 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,320 femka. There should just be a meet 307 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,960 where like they take non 800 meter specialists, but all these 308 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,120 people that were itching to see run an 800 and have just one 309 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:34,120 heat paced by someone like Keely and just be like, all right, 310 00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:37,920 let's let's end everyone's speculation and big what ifs and 311 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,760 let's have Keely go out and pace this race to see just how hard 312 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,960 someone like Femka Anna Hall throw. 313 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,960 I don't know, the little Mohammed in there to just all 314 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,080 out 800 meter time trial and we all get our just sort of 315 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,560 answers. Some meat should pony up that 316 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,080 because you'd get eyeballs for sure. 317 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,680 I mean it'd be the most intriguing race to watch. 318 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:01,600 I mean. Stuff like that's going to 319 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,880 happen. It's going to happen this year, 320 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,480 isn't it so? Yeah, this is the year for off 321 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:12,960 distances and trying new things. So, yeah, all right, let's now 322 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,920 move on to the New Balance Indoor Grand Prix, which is 323 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,200 taking place this upcoming weekend. 324 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:25,640 And we have the full fields out now on their website, some 325 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:30,040 intriguing storylines in the distance races. 326 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,560 So just kind of on an upper level. 327 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,800 I'll I'll go over them. And then maybe we could touch on 328 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,840 the ones that we're looking forward to the most in the men's 329 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,840 600 you've got out of Embrasia versus Bryce Hoppel. 330 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,320 And then a week later or two weeks later, they'll be going 331 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:47,560 head to head in the is it a week or two weeks later? 332 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,440 The difference between Melrose and Boston? 333 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,480 It's just a week. A week, right. 334 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:52,400 Yeah. Oh, wow. 335 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Yeah. I'm not staying in the US for 336 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,640 two weeks. Yeah, that's right. 337 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 Preet's coming to America. So if you're in Boston or in New 338 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,520 York. You come say hi. 339 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,640 Might come say hi to Preet. Yeah. 340 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,240 So, so Brazier versus Hoplin at 600 at in Boston and then a week 341 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,240 later they're going to go at it in the 800 in New York. 342 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,560 The women's 800 will feature the professional debut of Rasheen 343 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,960 Willis. She had an nil with New Balance, 344 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,880 so we'll keep tabs on what kit she's rocking there. 345 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,840 Josh Hoey, the indoor 800 meter world champion, will be 346 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:33,920 attacking the indoor 800 meter world record and the men's 800. 347 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:39,600 You've got a really, really strong 1500 that has world 348 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,840 silver medalist Dorcas Ewai versus Sinclair Johnson, who's 349 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,360 fresh off of that US Rd. mile record last month in Hawaii. 350 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:54,360 So, you know, that she's fit and kind of Sinclair news she posted 351 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:58,200 on her Instagram today, like a little farewell to Nike. 352 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,080 So, you know, after being supported by the brand from, you 353 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,200 know, turning professional out of college, running for the 354 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,840 Bowerman Track Club and then Union Athletic Club, and then 355 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:15,240 most recently just kind of independently with her fiance 356 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,120 and coach Craig Nowak, it looks like she's moving on to another 357 00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:23,240 sponsor. So keep your eyes peeled for an 358 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,600 announcement on that. And so most likely new kit on 359 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:32,520 her this upcoming weekend. That field also features Danny 360 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,920 Jones, Gracie Morris, fresh off of World Cross, the 2K relay. 361 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,280 Then we've got the two, the men's 2K, which has Grant 362 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,360 Fisher, Jake Whiteman as like the headliners there, you know, 363 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,160 don't overlook Hobbs Kessler in that one either. 364 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Women's 3K has Ellie Saint Pierre opening up her indoor 365 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 season. The former world champ at 3K is 366 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,600 going to I think the plan right now, according to coach Mark 367 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,920 Coogan, is to run a full indoor season. 368 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:13,880 So that'll be New Balance indoor Boston and then Milrose Games 369 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,920 where she's in the Wanamaker Mile and then probably USA and 370 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,760 then world's men's three KA good field. 371 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,120 In this one, it's got Marco Langan, Graham Blanks, Morgan 372 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:31,560 Beetlescomb, Andrew Koskren. So let's start there with the 373 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,440 distance races. So your first grievance here is 374 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:44,320 the fact that we have A600 and an 800 which separates Brazier 375 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Hoppel from Hoey, both Hoey's Abel Tephra in the 800. 376 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,680 But really I mean like. There's nobody really to compete 377 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,680 with with with Josh Hoey in that 800. 378 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,120 And yes, OK, he's going for the world record, but like, wouldn't 379 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,880 you like to see if Brazier and Hoppel were in that and Kim 380 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,720 Mcphillips, could any one of those people get the get the 800 381 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,640 meter indoor world record? And we saw what kind of, you 382 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,000 know, what, what it what happens when you have an indoor race 383 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,000 where there's competition for a world record at the Melrose 384 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Games last year with Grant Fisher in court. 385 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,200 And maybe it's a bit trickier in the 800 because if there is 386 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,400 that, that sort of, you know, you don't have that clean run at 387 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,920 it, then maybe it's trickier to run fast indoors because, you 388 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,600 know, if you're fighting for, for position, then then you 389 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,200 might lose a couple of tenths and, and that's the world record 390 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,080 gone. But, but at the same time, kind 391 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,360 of what are we doing here? People like literally I, I just 392 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,480 don't, you know, I mean, either go all in on the silly distances 393 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,680 or go in on, you know, and, and with, with good fields, but 394 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,720 running silly distances or if you're going to have the proper 395 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,280 distance, then don't have all the actual people who run that 396 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,360 distance in another race. It, it just, it just makes no 397 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:04,920 sense to me. Or rather it's not, it doesn't 398 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,160 make sense. I think it's just that I just 399 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,760 find it really stupid. It's just really dumb, frankly. 400 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,880 And it's like I, you know, I, I like this is meant to be the 401 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,600 Continental Tour gold. This is the top indoor 402 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,200 competition series that we have. And this is the kind of silly 403 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,440 stuff that we're doing here. People like what? 404 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,720 I I just, I just don't. Yeah, you want your answer, 405 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,120 Preet? Like you got to go back the 406 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,440 curtain and take a step back a little bit more as to like why 407 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,600 stuff like this happens. And it's a protection of your 408 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,280 stars when so many of these people are represented by the 409 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,000 same agent. So Bryce Hoppel, Donovan 410 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,600 Brazier, Josh Hoey, all represented by the same agent, 411 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Mark Wetmore. And so this is also a meet 412 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,320 that's being put on by them. And so you probably cater to 413 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 your own athletes. Like, I'm sure this wouldn't 414 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,440 shock me, right? Like, and I've kind of gotten 415 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,120 this vibe sometimes. Is that because Josh Hoey has 416 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:10,720 been just sort of pedal to the metal, all gas, no brakes, just 417 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,920 like so intensely fit at all times of the year that some 418 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,760 people are not ready to race them and don't want to 419 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:24,880 necessarily get, you know, blown out and the storyline or 420 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,520 narrative and optics shift for them. 421 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,600 So it's like, maybe it's sort of like we don't want, you know, 422 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,680 Donovan Brazier to lose to Joshua, which sucks, right? 423 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,080 Because, like, you know, losing is a part of the sport and like. 424 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,680 But what if I'm silly? They're all racing each other in 425 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,280 an 800 at the Milrays Games a week. 426 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,840 A week later, No, they're. Not because hoey's move. 427 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,440 Hoey's in the mile. Yeah, hoey's in the mile, but as 428 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,920 in Brazier and Hopple and like, they're racing. 429 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,960 Brazier, Hopple and Key and Mcphillips, they're all 430 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,200 together. In the 800 so like you can't. 431 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,920 I'm not faulting those guys. It's more in this one, I think 432 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,600 like the issue is just sort of like having these two, like 433 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,920 these two distances be so close and separating them. 434 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,320 Well, the 300 'cause it's not as much of an issue, yeah. 435 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Yeah, We'll get to that one. But like it's not as much of A, 436 00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,920 it's not as much of an issue at Millrose because it's mile 437 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:25,320 versus 802 different events and Hoey just happens to have the 438 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,360 versatility to go across both of them. 439 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,840 In this one, it should have just been an 800 and you should have 440 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,040 just had Brazier and Hoppel thrown into this one. 441 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,760 But understandably, if they said something to their agent being 442 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,160 like, we're not ready to run a hard 800 against Josh then, and 443 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120 meanwhile, Josh is like, I want to break the world record. 444 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,520 Then you you're like, all right, I guess I'll organize two 445 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,840 different races. That's my thinking of like how 446 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,400 it all plays out behind the scenes, which, yeah, I mean, it 447 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,840 prevents us from seeing the these stars go head to head 448 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,080 against one another. And instead we're going to see a 449 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:08,320 time trial in one heat versus with with Hoey versus the clock 450 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,080 essentially when you look at that field. 451 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,760 And then the other one will actually be a solid race, 452 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,360 probably between Brazier Hopple and Ken Mcphillips. 453 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Yeah, yeah. And I mean, to be fair, I 454 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,800 wouldn't be surprised if they also go for the 600 meter world 455 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,520 record indoors. But yeah, that's yeah. 456 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,160 But that's probably a little bit of an easier, easier task. 457 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,400 Maybe the idea would have been just running another 600 and 458 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,760 Hoey's like Hoey opted for the 800. 459 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,640 It's just like, I guess we don't know the behind the scenes of 460 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,880 like what event was on the program first. 461 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,280 I would think because of the continental tour status or the 462 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:46,080 world indoor tour status, that like they probably, it was 463 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,480 probably leaned on to be an 800. You'd be like, it's probably one 464 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,080 of the distances that you had to carry at this meeting. 465 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:58,520 So yeah, politics I guess, but it but it gets like you, you 466 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,360 don't see it as much I guess in in at the Milrose Games because 467 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,680 you know, you've got a lot of Ray Flynn represented athletes 468 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,880 and they're going head to head across. 469 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Oh no, we we still got steadiness at the Milrose Games 470 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,760 because then we've got our man Cooper Lukkenhaus in the 600 471 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,520 instead. That's true, I guess, yeah. 472 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,240 So they they can say there is some of that too. 473 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,080 Yeah, it's still, it's all happening. 474 00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,200 It's all happening. We kind of touched on those a 475 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,200 bit. Do you think the 600 meter world 476 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,320 record goes down Brazier hop? I don't. 477 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:34,320 I think Hoey was just like on a tear last month and and it would 478 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,200 be nice to see Brazier in that form, but it's still January. 479 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Yeah, to be fair, he was running a mile in Honolulu a few weeks 480 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600 ago, so maybe he's kind of on over distance and this is just. 481 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,080 He got married too, right after, yeah. 482 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,160 He's been busy, so yeah, we'll we'll give him a bit of grace, 483 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,160 but. And then the 800 world back, do 484 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,720 you see it falling? I, I honestly don't know. 485 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,600 I I feel like at some point, John. 486 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,360 Let me pull up what it is. For Josh Harry's, it's 142. 487 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,160 It's Wilson. Kip Keeter isn't. 488 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:12,760 It Kip Keeter, right? Yeah. 142 something, 0142 low. 489 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,520 Yeah, I'll find it. But yeah. 490 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,480 Or to your point, yeah, whatever you thinking. 491 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,280 At some point, Josh, how he's going to run out of steam. 492 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,120 That's why like it's just this is going to happen, but you 493 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,560 know, is it going to be, is it going to be this weekend? 494 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,800 I don't know. Maybe he'll keep going. 495 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,440 But yeah, at some point you've got to run out. 496 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,600 I, I feel like I, I, I'm not sure this is the race for it. 497 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,040 I don't know. But my, my gut is that this 498 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,560 isn't quite the race for it. He doesn't really have 499 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,960 competition in this race. And yes, he is good at running 500 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,080 from the front and that's how he ran quick times last indoor 501 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,760 season as well. But at the same time, I kind of 502 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,720 worry that what's going to happen is what happened to him 503 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,520 at world indoors, where he sort of overcooked it a bit after 504 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,680 having that amazing indoor season and, and he still held on 505 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440 for the gold medal, but he didn't run the QuickTime that he 506 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,400 was he was hoping to run. So that's my, my gut is that, 507 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,480 you know, he'll, I don't, I don't, I think he'll come close, 508 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,960 but I think he'll be a, you know, 143 rather than a 142 is 509 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,080 my, my guess. He's already #2 on the world all 510 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,120 time list, his American record is 143.24 from the US Indoor 511 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,160 Championships last year. Wilson Kipketter has the world 512 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:38,520 record indoors at 142.67. So even under 143, it's still a, 513 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,720 a, a good chunk. So we'll, we'll, we'll see. 514 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,640 I don't I don't necessarily think it's going to happen at 515 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,160 this meet, but if he was he was requesting a crazy pace in in 516 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,360 Honolulu then and if he's only levelled up since that 600 517 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,720 indoor world record, then I mean, I wouldn't be shocked. 518 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,320 It's just kind of wild to be this fit this early. 519 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,880 All right, then we move on over to let's the other intriguing 520 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,680 field here, women's 1500 Sinclair versus Dorcas, Ewoi 521 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,440 versus Susan is George Sanders. That'll be I think a good one 522 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,320 because I Sinclair was in really good form last month. 523 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,560 And but let's see how the Puma Elite 2025 Magic carries over 524 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,880 into 2026 with with Dorcas. So that's what I've got my eyes 525 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,480 on on that one. All right. 526 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160 Yeah, I'm obviously going to shout out Claudia Kasmeska 527 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,400 because obviously she's trying to qualify for a home wild 528 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,080 indoors, so. Oh, true. 529 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Yeah, yeah. So that that's, that's going to 530 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,880 be interesting. So yeah. 531 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,120 All right, pre rant Part 2. Now hit me with your thoughts on 532 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,680 Men's 2K and and Men's 3K taking place this weekend. 533 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:04,400 I mean, again, like Grant Fisher in a 2K, what are we doing 534 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:10,200 people when there's a perfectly good 3K, you know, and OK, you 535 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240 know, Jake Whiteman in the 2K, maybe that's interesting. 536 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,440 I don't know. But he's not a time trailer. 537 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,920 So what? Again, what are we doing in the 538 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,440 2K? Like I I don't see the value of 539 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,920 winning a 2K race right there wasn't. 540 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Actually, this this is where you know, there's going to be a 541 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,200 piece on this in the lab count this week where it pushes back 542 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,720 against what exactly what you're saying. 543 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:37,480 I think a 2K is entertaining for because we we're going to get 544 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,400 grant in the two mile at Melrose. 545 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,680 So he'll check the the the 3K box there, presuming that he'll 546 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,360 either break his own world, he'll break the world record or 547 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360 come close to it. He'll be at the front of that 548 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,000 race that is going to be going fast and they'll likely be under 549 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,440 the world indoor championship standard. 550 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,680 So all right, if if Grant wants to run a 2K here, then I think 551 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,400 it's OK because we've got a really good this one's different 552 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,680 because I don't think that it's the case of any stars ducking 553 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,800 each other. Grant versus Jake, assuming Jake 554 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,800 is fully healthy is intriguing because you can't, you know, 555 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,800 it's not necessarily a mile, which would the edge would go to 556 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,200 Jake and it's not necessarily a 3K where the edge would 557 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:31,600 obviously go to Grant. So the in between of it is a bit 558 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,800 more fun than just one extra lap 608 hundred like those are two 559 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,960 much more similar events than 2K versus 3K. 560 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,400 Yeah, but I, I, I still think, you know, I mean, I still have 561 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,680 liked to see Grant against Graham Blanks and. 562 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,000 Bill, you're going to get that in my. 563 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:55,800 Room and Cam Myers and yeah I I just yeah I don't know well, to 564 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,920 be fair I'd love to see to see Cam Myers in the in the. 565 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560 Yeah, exactly. I want Cam Myers in the two KK, 566 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,520 not the three. K yeah, yeah, maybe maybe that's 567 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:05,880 it. But, you know, I mean, Hobbs, 568 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,159 Kessler, we shouldn't write. He had such a fantastic indoor 569 00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:10,760 season last year, right? And it was just a real shame 570 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,400 that he didn't go to world indoors. 571 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,960 And I really do hope that people don't do that this year. 572 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,320 Like, obviously, if you're American, there is no reason not 573 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,840 to go for wild indoors. We've told you how to qualify 574 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,120 now. So go do it. 575 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,440 And you know, and and then turn up at US champs and then run 576 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,280 world indoors because there is literally no reason, right? 577 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:40,080 Yes, you know, it's an off year. And if you want to kind of, but 578 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,440 indoors is fun, right? Do indoors and then chill out 579 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,840 for for a while. You don't have to worry about 580 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,040 peeking for Usas in July or June to qualify for World 581 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,360 Championships or Olympics. So yes, you might want to try 582 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,320 and make world indoor world Ultimate Championships, but that 583 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,360 is, you know, you're going to be travelling around Europe and 584 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,440 running a few fun races, right? It's not going to be the same 585 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,680 level of stress that that qualifying for Worlds is and 586 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:08,920 peaking for Worlds is going to be. 587 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,760 So I, I really do think I, I'll be really disappointed. 588 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,640 Like I know there were some people who already said they're 589 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,760 not doing well. I think Grant has said he isn't, 590 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,640 Jake Wightman has said he isn't. But I I do think I think it's a 591 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,960 bit different for the Brits, but for the Americans there is 592 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,160 literally no reason not to. And I really do want to see as 593 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,120 many Americans as possible hit hit the wild indoors hard, or 594 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,560 hit the indoor season hard. Every week you get more and more 595 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,120 American on this. Podcast Well, well, no, this 596 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,680 year, I mean, look, I well, I'm going to be at Wild indoors, so 597 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,680 it's in my interest for it to be as as strong, yeah, as stronger 598 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680 fields as possible. And, and how many Americans 599 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,360 there contribute to that. So yeah, I want to see it. 600 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,600 So what's the scenario for America to put three have three 601 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,920 men at world indoors? So I think you then have to have 602 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,520 a winner on the world indoor tour and that means racing the 603 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,800 and that's the other stupid thing about people running these 604 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,560 stupid off distance events, right? 605 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:12,680 That that doesn't help that cause is because if you run the 606 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,760 and I don't know, they might treat the 2K as a 1500. 607 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,720 I don't know. I don't know whether it's it's 608 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,080 also like some of these events are official world indoor tour 609 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,320 events. Some of them aren't. 610 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640 It's not very clear from this start list on the website which 611 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,400 ones which ones are which, but events that are officially on 612 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,560 the World Indoor Tour. If you win the World Indoor Tour 613 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,840 and that means effectively you compete at 3 meets and you get 614 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,280 points IE by coming placing well in those races, the people who 615 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,280 get the most points across the three. 616 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,640 Like it's not officially 3, but essentially you could you count 617 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,120 a maximum of three scores. So if you can beat at 4 beats, 618 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,280 then you only count your best 3 scores to win the World Indoor 619 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,720 Tour. Or certainly that's how it was 620 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,280 last year. 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We are heading into Year 4 with 658 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,000 Lollipop and we could not be more excited. 659 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,480 Yeah, I was about to try and do a quick look for what each 660 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,000 discipline is going to be for each of the meets. 661 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,160 Let's see. Yeah, I guess like it's 68103 K 662 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,080 5K. So the three K 5K ones count 663 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,400 towards one another. Pole vault, triple jump, shot 664 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560 put. I don't see anything about 2K in 665 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,440 there. No, maybe not. 666 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,200 So I guess, yeah, to your point, it's useless. 667 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,760 And I don't see anything about 600 counting towards 800 either. 668 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,360 No, I think it depends whether the event like it's like at the 669 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,840 Diamond Leagues, right, where you get Diamond League points 670 00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:02,400 for winning the 2K is then treated as part of the 1500 on 671 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,200 the Diamond League right as a if it's a Diamond League event. 672 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,640 So there is a bit of that. But yeah, I haven't checked 673 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,480 exactly what is, what is and what isn't this year, but. 674 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,840 Yeah. So, yeah, but I I doubt. 675 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,160 But this is the other thing, right? 676 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,400 There are a few Americans who go over to Europe and do that. 677 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,080 We've got Cray Angles and Grand Holloway over in Europe already. 678 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:30,040 But yeah, for the vast majority of Americans, you're doing 679 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,360 Boston, you're doing Melrose, and then that's it if you're. 680 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,080 Piercing out. In terms of in terms of the gold 681 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,000 meats, right. So where you can get these these 682 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,760 wild cards? So yeah. 683 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,040 All right, let's move on over to the sprints. 684 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,640 Yes, for the sprints, the the big storylines are well, Quincy 685 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,840 Wilson's running a 400 and then you've got tons of. 686 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,920 No, Quincy Wilson is not. Oh yeah, he's running 400, isn't 687 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,160 he? Sorry. 688 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,520 Yeah. Yeah, oh damn it. 689 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,640 But he's not. Running the 300. 690 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,960 I know, yeah. So then we got a true season 691 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,760 opener for 110 hurdles world champion Cordell Tinch. 692 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,000 He'll be in the 60 hurdles. A tathon. 693 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,600 World champion Anna Hall will be doing the women's 400. 694 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,920 Is she also jumping at this meet? 695 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,880 She's doing long jump as well. Yeah, she's doing. 696 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,440 Long jump is earlier on in the meet and then the 400 is towards 697 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,920 the end. And then the best race of the 698 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,240 day is slated to be the men's 300, where you've got Noah Lyles 699 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,720 versus Jareen Richards versus Trayvon Burmell versus Vernon 700 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,080 Norwood. I think those are the only four 701 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,800 guys in the field, right? Yep, only four. 702 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,840 Guys, I mean, you can't really have more than that in the 300, 703 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,960 can you? Because they have because. 704 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,880 Then you sent someone back. Yeah. 705 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:04,040 So let's start with the Quincy Wilson versus Quincy Wilson not 706 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,240 running the the the 300. He's he's running a very good 707 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:13,240 indoor season so far. I think I just saw he ran a 500 708 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,840 PB, a 600, I think a 600. Well, so it was like pretty 709 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,240 close to his personal best. So as of right now, like he's 710 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,640 kind of just going through the high school motions as his 711 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,800 senior year, not as much pressure. 712 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,960 Like, I don't necessarily think he's planning to do World 713 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,840 indoors. So for him, I think the kids 714 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,560 just having fun. One last hurrah with with Bolas, 715 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080 which is good. But the interesting thing that 716 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,560 hit me over the last couple weeks is that I remember that 717 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,960 the University of Maryland doesn't have a men's indoor 718 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,480 team. So then in the winter, I guess 719 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,480 it's a cool move in the decision to go run at the University of 720 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,440 Maryland is that he'll be able to probably just represent New 721 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,440 Balance as an NIL athlete that meets like this next year. 722 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,800 So I'm sure it'll be a different under a different coach and 723 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,640 stuff. But that hit me the other day. 724 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,240 I was like, wait a second. I was like, Maryland doesn't 725 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,760 have a indoor squad. So like, I guess like he'll 726 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,480 assuming, yeah, like contract extensions for NIL and all that 727 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:28,000 stuff gets done and like he'll be at this meet next year in a 728 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,080 full New Balance kit again. So I thought that was cool. 729 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,920 But yeah, I guess Preet, you want to see him in this men's 730 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,600 300I mean? When are you going to get to see 731 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,320 Quincy Wilson race Noah Lyles? This is the opportunity. 732 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,040 This was the opportunity, right? Like. 733 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,480 Who would you kick out of this field? 734 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:49,480 I I mean, I love Trayvon, but man, he's I've never even seen 735 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,880 him run a 200, let alone. He just ran 1 indoors. 736 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,920 Rob one indoors, but no, as in. Yeah, I'm not. 737 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,200 Yeah. I mean, he is obviously a much 738 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,200 better short sprinter. So I would have, I would, I 739 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,120 would probably say, you know, you, you want to see Quincy 740 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,120 versus Noah versus Doreen versus Vernon. 741 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,680 Obviously Quincy versus Vernon is always fun as well because of 742 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:19,120 the special relationship there. So, but yeah, I I mean, it was 743 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,960 an opportunity to have Quincy Wilson versus Noah loves and you 744 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,240 didn't take it. Yeah, again, just makes me sad. 745 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:35,680 Yeah, Trey opened up in 20.98 for the for 200 out at Texas 746 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,280 Tech this past weekend, so he's in good form. 747 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,800 And also, there's no way they're kicking out a New Balance 748 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,640 athlete from the New Balance maybe. 749 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,400 Yeah. Indoor Grand Prix. 750 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,960 Well, no, I'm not saying he can run the 60. 751 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,640 Yeah. That 60 is weak actually. 752 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,200 Yeah, exactly. But I, you know, and Noah did 753 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,040 open up as well opened up last week with a 300 as well, 32.64 754 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,640 so wasn't. What did you think about that? 755 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,800 I mean, he's talking a big game on Instagram right now. 756 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,000 I don't know if you've seen the graphic and it's kind of like 757 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,120 we're not playing. He is the 300m indoor world 758 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:22,040 record holder and he ran that back in 2017 when he had he not 759 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,120 even broken 20 seconds for the 200. 760 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,560 I heard someone say back then when when he when he did that. 761 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,360 And obviously he's a much better athlete now. 762 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:38,520 So yeah, I think that was Anderson was, was who said that 763 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,680 on his on the on the final leg actually. 764 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:48,120 So he, yeah, I mean, I think there's yes, maybe we see him 765 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,000 break that world record, but at the same time, him opening up in 766 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:56,280 32.6 wasn't really anything special when we had Tate Taylor, 767 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:01,480 the high school around 32.45. So yeah, it, it didn't then feel 768 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,520 like he was kind of, but maybe it was a rust Buster, you know? 769 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,200 Well, if if Noah's talking a big game about world record or 770 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,400 whatever it might be, then like I'm waiting for this Garrett 771 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,280 Kalund guy. I'm definitely butchering his 772 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080 last name. He was at USC, but this past 773 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,800 weekend in in Washington, he just ran 32.1. 774 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,680 So it's like he's got a right to also start, you know, talking a 775 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:35,080 big game about running a 300 indoor world record and there's 776 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,240 not as much fanfare. Also, isn't that Spokane track 777 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:45,480 like famously slow? So yeah, it, it kind of got lost 778 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,120 in the shuffle. Obviously, Noah commands a bit 779 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:52,480 more attention and and people, you know, saw the clip and he's, 780 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,240 you know, seems encouraged by the result. 781 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:58,280 But yeah, I mean, like, there's other people also running pretty 782 00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,960 fast at over 300. Do we see the world record 783 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,280 maybe, which is what? Let me look that one up. 784 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:13,800 The indoor world record for 300. Is 31.7. 31.56 by Stephen 785 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,360 Gardner. Oh sorry, yes he had it before 786 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,240 Gardner broke it. Yeah, but I think Noah ran 31.7 787 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:24,080 something. Noah ran 31.87 back in March 788 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,720 2017, and then Stephen Gardner broke it in 2022. 789 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,680 So yeah. And then I did see just sort of 790 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,720 that Noah was catching some some crap for running at this random 791 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,680 college meet in Gainesville as well. 792 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,440 And I guess that you can go two ways with it. 793 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,320 It's one it's like if you, because I remember this being a 794 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,720 big point of his last year right about like, I need a stage where 795 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:59,040 I can, you know, I'm a star and I really want to showcase, you 796 00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:01,760 know. Don't give it away for free, 797 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000 right? Yeah, and it's like you're, 798 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,800 you're running for free at this college meet with zero prize 799 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,440 money probably as well. And, you know, the top pros, I 800 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,040 guess I saw Ray Edwards saying like someone like Usain Bolt 801 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,200 would never do anything like that. 802 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,240 Now that's putting Bolt and and Noah in the same category, which 803 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:23,720 they're not. But yeah, I mean, so there's 804 00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:25,120 that. But then you also got to open up 805 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,320 somewhere, right? Like a solo time trial in 806 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,000 practice can only give you so much. 807 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,360 But maybe that's enough for for people sometimes. 808 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,240 So yeah, I mean, I go back and forth on, you know, some of 809 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,760 these pros running in these random college meets. 810 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,680 Like it's very prevalent in at this time of year at Texas Tech, 811 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,680 at Clemson, you know, Florida, so at Arkansas. 812 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,680 But yeah, someone's got it. Because I guess, and maybe it's 813 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,600 more important for the sprinters to get a Rep or two in before 814 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,400 you show up to something like the New Balance into a Grand 815 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:07,560 Prix or the Milrose Games. The other note, because we 816 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,240 talked about how weak the 60 is for the men is that Grant 817 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,680 Holloway put it up on Twitter that he was like, you know, what 818 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,160 if we removed the the barriers or something like that. 819 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,560 He was teasing Bald Grant, you know, in one post. 820 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:26,360 And then the idea of running the 60 in another, which I'm excited 821 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,160 by, like I think it'd be a nice fresh restart. 822 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,080 For some of them, for a couple of meets in Europe already, I 823 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,760 think for the 60. Oh, he is to run the 60. 824 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,600 Yeah, to run the 60, at least one meeting he was announced 825 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,720 for. I can't remember which one now, 826 00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:40,600 but yeah, I think he's running in the next next few days. 827 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,480 Then that's fantastic. I think that it's I I like the 828 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,200 move by Grant to focus on the 60 hit over. 829 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,320 He had a hard year last year. He got beat quite a quite a 830 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,800 couple times. And yeah, maybe not what you 831 00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:01,320 envisioned after winning Olympic gold, but this could be, you 832 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:06,160 know, the reset that he needs for 2026 at the end of the 833 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,840 indoor season. It'd be fun to see him try and 834 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,600 go for it at the US Indoor Championships. 835 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,800 And could he make that team? Is he doing it because he's 836 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,760 worried about losing his streak in the hurdles? 837 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,280 You said it, not me. I'm going to get in trouble if I 838 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,240 interview him. He listens to these things, 839 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:27,720 doesn't he? Someone's going to clip it up 840 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,320 and send it to him. But no, I mean like, yeah, 841 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,560 Grant, we love Grant and he, you know, if he does something fun, 842 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,360 I think we've been wanting him because we know that he's so 843 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,800 talented across other distances. You know, we think he could be 844 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,080 on that 4 by 1 relay team. We think he could run a great 845 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,040 400. He he can long jump, you know, 846 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,440 so it'll be nice to see him doing some of those fun things 847 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,960 this year. And so I I I don't have a 848 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,440 problem with it in in Grants his. 849 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,520 PB is 6.50. It's pretty good. 850 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,120 Yeah, decent. Yeah. 851 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,880 Does that get you on the team? I don't know, depends on like, I 852 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,360 mean, I see Christian Coleman, I think posted a workout like is 853 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,600 he going to are we going to see him at all during the indoor 854 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,200 season? He took indoors off last year, 855 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,360 right? Yeah, but I think that was that 856 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,400 was in the cause of obviously trying to make the outdoor team 857 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,200 right, which which obviously he didn't manage to do for the 858 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,840 Olympics. So whilst this year again same 859 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:27,080 same story like there is no reason for that. 860 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,080 Like you don't need to worry about making the team this year. 861 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,840 And actually Coleman does go on the circuit and he runs well on 862 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,800 the Diamond League anyway outdoors and that will get him 863 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,960 to the ultimate championship. So he does what he normally does 864 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,680 on on the circuit. So I don't think he needs to 865 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,480 worry too much about that. So I would say, why not go and 866 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,720 be, you know, we know he's the, he's the best in the world of 867 00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,560 the 60. Yeah, I'm looking his up now 868 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,240 like over the last two years. It's like, hypothetically 869 00:51:56,240 --> 00:52:02,680 speaking, if Grant Holloway is better than his 650, then he 870 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,480 doesn't actually have a shot at making this team. 871 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,000 Because I was looking it up in the last two years. 872 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,360 Like, who's run the 60 faster than that? 873 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:13,720 And it's a very short list. It's Ronnie Baker ran 650 last 874 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:19,360 year, Trinod Folsom out at Clemson in an early season meet, 875 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,280 Jordan Anthony and he's I think running this this weekend. 876 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,280 And JC Stevenson, like those are the only guys. 877 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:32,400 Noah Lyles, he ran 652 in Boston last year. 878 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,400 But yeah, I mean, so there is a there would be a chance for for 879 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,360 Grant Holloway to try and contend for the gold medal in 880 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,960 this not gold medal. I'm sorry. 881 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,120 In for the at least like the 60 U.S. team. 882 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,680 Yeah. And then in if we're diving this 883 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,400 far into the men's 60, did you see the news that Marcel Jacobs 884 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,840 is back with his Italian? Yeah, he's back with his Italian 885 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,080 coach. So, yeah. 886 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,120 And he's he's actually, you know, he's a world indoor 887 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:03,560 champion in the 60s. So. 888 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,120 But the other other person that I thought was interesting on the 889 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,880 60 start list was a certain Cravon Charlton, the 2023 US 890 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,920 champion in the 100 meters. Who is who's who's obviously 891 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,520 healthy enough to run. So that's good to see. 892 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:25,040 Akeem Blake It's good to see the Jamaicans running indoors, 893 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,880 indoors as well. So that's that's. 894 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,440 Trevon Charleston has already raced twice this year. 895 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,280 He raced at a meet in Winston Salem. 896 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:41,800 He ran the 60 this past weekend and he ran 6.70 so maybe not 897 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,880 quite there yet, but good to see him back because for the longest 898 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,640 time it was like, you know that game where in the world is 899 00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,720 Carmen San Diego is like where in the world is Crevant 900 00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:54,680 Charleston? And I guess like last year he 901 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:59,520 made it to the semi final of the 100 at USA's, but I mean, he 902 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:04,680 never ran faster than 10.16 and that was in April of last year. 903 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,200 So good to see him back. It's going to be, it's going to 904 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:11,120 take a bit, I think for to him to get back into just sort of 905 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:18,040 like that winning conversation. But all right, let's dive on 906 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:22,240 into Are there any other Sprint fields that you want to 907 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,680 highlight? I mean, the the the women's 60 908 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,360 hurdles is also a surprisingly weak field for 60. 909 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,920 I mean, it's got Devin Charlton, it's got Danielle Williams, but 910 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,920 you know, normally a 60 hurdles field indoors is is jam packed. 911 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,240 I mean, a hurdle, a women's hurdles race anywhere is jam 912 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,880 packed. And this one isn't quite as as 913 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:50,400 deep as you would hope. But yeah, I think that was 914 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,760 probably the only other one that we hadn't really touched on. 915 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,400 Yeah, men's 300. All right, so you think Noah 916 00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,000 wins this thing? I don't actually think Noah wins 917 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,440 this thing. I think Dream Richards wins 918 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,560 this. I could see it too, I think. 919 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,680 Like, yeah, he doesn't get as much love just because he's 920 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,800 never claimed. He's also a world indoor 921 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:19,240 champion in the 400 and he's, yeah, he's a sub 2200m runner 922 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,680 and he's a 300. Feels like he's kind of 923 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,800 distance. My heart wants to pick Vernon, 924 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,000 but my brain, I guess if you're going to go dream Richards, then 925 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,800 I'll just be safe and I'll pick Noah. 926 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,280 But that is the the race to watch at the New Balance in your 927 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,880 Grand Prix and it'll be the last event of the day. 928 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,320 And you can TuneIn and watch it on NBC or Peacock. 929 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:48,160 They'll be streaming it. All right, let's move on over to 930 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,040 Boston Marathon, which like it's not too early to start to get 931 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,400 excited about. The women's elite field was 932 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,040 released today. The men's elite field will be 933 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,600 released tomorrow. So I guess like we'll, we'll 934 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,040 talk about it next week, but if it's any indication of how 935 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,560 strong the, if it matches the caliber of the the women's side, 936 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:19,440 then this might be the greatest Boston Marathon yet, at least on 937 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:24,120 the American side. I'll say because I think 8 of 938 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,960 the top 10 American women from last year are in this year's 939 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,160 field. You got Sharon Loquetti coming 940 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,240 back. He got I think two other sub 218 941 00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:36,240 women. But the intriguing part of this 942 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:42,080 one is that two time champion 2022-2023 and 2024 Boston 943 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:48,080 Marathon champion Helen O'berry not racing, which prevents us 944 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:54,680 from getting an eighth race between Sharon and Helen and I. 945 00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:00,000 My presumption is that Helen will be going to London and 946 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,280 chasing a fast time there. It here's the problem with just 947 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,280 sort of like how many majors there are now is that it just 948 00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,280 kind of, you know, splits the talent to so many different 949 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,480 places. I guess you could go Tokyo, you 950 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:19,840 could go London and Boston right in the spring, unless someone 951 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:20,840 else is dishing out. Money. 952 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,040 But I don't. Yeah, not really. 953 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,920 And Tokyo the elite field, even though Tokyo is sooner than 954 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,600 Boston or London. We have not had Tokyo elite 955 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,280 fields either, yet they keep. They keep that thing tight for 956 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,920 quite a bit, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 957 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:42,520 But maybe they are sort of waiting a little bit for, I 958 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,080 mean, there's also they are kind of second federal to Boston and 959 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,520 London. So they maybe do wait for people 960 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,480 who can't get into those maybe who want to come race. 961 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,000 There's also maybe a little bit of that. 962 00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,320 I don't know. I don't know, but yeah. 963 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,840 So all right at the top, it's great to see Sharon back. 964 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,280 I'd love to see her go back-to-back. 965 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:11,000 She's been so good at the marathon each time out. 966 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,960 And you know, New York, she ended up coming just shy of the 967 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,120 win after another battle with Helen O'bury. 968 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,320 I honestly the question work around Sharon is just like, 969 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,560 how's she going to do in a marathon without Helen, right? 970 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,760 Like I think all of. Her, she's going to make the 971 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,480 running herself. This is this is the thing, 972 00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:28,720 right? She's got to. 973 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,120 She's going to make the running herself. 974 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,760 It's going to be very interesting. 975 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,560 Or you don't because like she's proven that she could win these 976 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,440 races if you leave it to the late kick. 977 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,960 So it's like honestly, like Sharon's even more of a favorite 978 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,680 because you don't necessarily have to push it so hard unless 979 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,000 you do want to just kind of run the legs out of Irene Chepdi, 980 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:52,520 who was fourth last year. She's back in the field 217 PB 981 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:57,840 and then work Initiadessa as the other sub 218 runner. 982 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:02,040 She's won Sydney, I think in the past before it was a major was 983 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,480 third there last year. Yeah. 984 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,960 I guess the fun storyline is what what will Sharon do without 985 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,280 Helen? And then the rest of like, I 986 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,000 guess we're waiting for the professional fields for London 987 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,160 to be announced. But if we want to like as much 988 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,840 as we're enamoured by how strong the American women's field is 989 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:28,880 here, the international fields kind of lacking because I think. 990 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,840 Sharon's the only one he's won a major, right? 991 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,760 So that is, which is pretty unusual for. 992 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:41,280 And worknish Edessa might be was #10 fastest woman last year on 993 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,120 like a record eligible course. So it means all the other nine 994 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,480 women ahead of her are going somewhere else. 995 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,720 And so that includes Joycelyn Gipkaz guy, I'm going to guess 996 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,480 London, or maybe she'll. She'll go to London. 997 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,680 She's. Yeah, London, because it'd be 998 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,680 too soon to do anything since then because she ran 214 in 999 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,840 Valencia. Paris. 1000 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,440 Giptier, Chair. She's London, I would think 1001 01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:13,320 because she's won there before. Howie Facea, I don't know, I 1002 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,240 guess maybe she could be one that goes to Tokyo. 1003 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,600 If not, I mean, 21457 could could be in London. 1004 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:27,640 Tickets to Safa, 21550 to break the women's only marathon world 1005 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,240 record last year in London. She's going to get a big 1006 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,960 appearance fee to be back to defend her title. 1007 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:40,360 Then you got Sutumi Kabete and Bridget Cosguy, London. 1008 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,000 And where is Saifan Hassan? Yeah, that's true. 1009 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,800 Honestly I'm bummed that she's not in this now that you mention 1010 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,040 her. I was like, I mean, I, I did, I, 1011 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,320 I did feel like I was really hoping that Saifan Hassan would 1012 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,920 be in this bottom field. I was kind of, that was my, that 1013 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,240 was my sneaky kind of, and one of the things I wanted to do, 1014 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,560 like if we didn't have this news coming out, was my suggestion 1015 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,560 was going to be to, because we didn't have as many news stories 1016 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,600 this week was to have a little speculation session on what is 1017 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:10,960 Saffan Hassan going to do this year? 1018 01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,000 What, what, what can she do that's fun? 1019 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,440 Because she, I mean, last year was quite boring by Saffan 1020 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,240 Hassan's standards. She ran 3 marathons but but that 1021 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:26,720 was that was all she did. I guess what does she need? 1022 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:31,320 She's got Chicago, London, Sydney, three major wins. 1023 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:35,600 Yeah, and then she's run Tokyo and. 1024 01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:39,200 And she's run New York, NY and so then. 1025 01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,400 Which is why I thought Boston. Yeah, yeah. 1026 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,360 Boston would be, what, her seventh start? 1027 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,680 No, 6th. She's missing Berlin. 1028 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,840 Yes, well, she's not Berlin, so. Berlin and Boston, man, that 1029 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,760 would have been a great year for Stefan is on like those that 1030 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,720 that that should have been it like try and you know, win 1031 01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,680 Boston because he proved I guess like New York got the best of 1032 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:04,960 her. But that's also because she ran 1033 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,800 Sydney not that far before that. But we saw what she did in in 1034 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,760 Paris on a hilly course, go out and destroy Boston and then 1035 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:20,640 after that go and try and break the world record in in Berlin. 1036 01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:27,480 So yeah, I that's, yeah, you're right, Stefano San is missing 1037 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,240 from this. But let's let's, let's turn it 1038 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,200 to a happier note and all the all the Americans that'll be 1039 01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,160 here is very exciting. All of them that we were talking 1040 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,120 about last week pretty much and they who might well the ones who 1041 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,680 are actually running marathons actively right now, the vast 1042 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,280 majority of them are in this field that we were talking about 1043 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,160 last week as potential contenders for the Olympic 1044 01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,720 trials. Yeah, so we'll wait for the 1045 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:57,080 men's field to come out, but like, we've got our first early 1046 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,880 taste of what 2028 could look like because this one's got 1047 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,320 Fiona O'Keefe, who ran 222 last year in New York. 1048 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,680 It's got Jess McClain, who also ran 222 in Boston, top American 1049 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,520 fastest time all courses last year. 1050 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:17,880 You got the full Olympic team with O'Keefe American record 1051 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,560 holder Emily Sisson and, and who's who's our third? 1052 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,520 Oh, Dakota Propane. And then you've got the full 1053 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:33,560 world championship team, 4th place finisher Susanna Sullivan, 1054 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,560 Jess McClain, who was eighth. And then you've also got Erica 1055 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,840 Kemp. Erica Kemp who ran 222 last 1056 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,360 year, third fastest American woman. 1057 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,360 All courses. Some intriguing debuts. 1058 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,720 Natasha Rogers has never raced on this course. 1059 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,600 She was top American in Chicago, so. 1060 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,840 She was top American, so yeah, yeah, he blocked in top American 1061 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,920 from Boston World's Chicago, New York. 1062 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,320 So Kira d'amato's trying to bounce back from 2:28 in 1063 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:12,240 Valencia. You got Annie Frisby, who was 1064 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,920 second American in Boston last year, Amanda Vestry with a solid 1065 01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,800 debut in New York last year. The the OK, so it basically 1066 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,520 comes down to who's missing who, who who's not running Boston. 1067 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,280 And interestingly, Emma Bates not running Boston. 1068 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,760 She ran Valencia and Bates has been a a regular here. 1069 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,560 Aubrey friend the way who ran 227 at Grandma's last year, just 1070 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,920 announced that she's expecting her first kid. 1071 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,240 Congrats to her. Maggie Montoya ran 227 in 1072 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,120 Rotterdam last year. Not on this start list. 1073 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,400 And then you got a lot of people who just ran fast, like in 1074 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,880 Marathon Project CIM, that's a Molly Grable. 1075 01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,800 And you got who else? Jane Barecki's who are not on 1076 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,320 it. But of the upper echelon of US 1077 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,320 marathoners, they got them all. Molly Seidel has moved on to the 1078 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,760 trails ultra scene already finding great success there. 1079 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,880 We've got a podcast interview with her on getting chicked that 1080 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,800 you can listen to. We might even drop it on to the 1081 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:23,560 CS Mag feed later this week. And I guess Betsy Cena still 1082 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,160 coming back from having her second kid, she might be in the 1083 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,280 Tokyo field, you know, with Tokyo being an ASICS race and 1084 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,280 her being an ASICS athlete. And she's run well there in the 1085 01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:37,520 past. So aside from that, like I'm 1086 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,520 guessing like not, not a ton, no one who's actively racing is 1087 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,160 missing. Is this what it's going to be 1088 01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:44,880 like for you with the London Fields? 1089 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,680 Hopefully. Well, Callie Hoga Thackery top 1090 01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,520 Brett is racing Oh, that's right is in this field she's in 1091 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:54,880 Boston. I mean, I wonder with with 1092 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,440 Callie, I don't know, I'm speculating wildly, but if she 1093 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,560 has to stay in the US for her visa, because she's obviously 1094 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,520 been very quite vocal about targeting a fast time. 1095 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,240 So I would have expected her to go to London. 1096 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,840 But yeah, maybe that would be the reason why she's in Boston. 1097 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,120 Well, that that that could be a reason why she's in Boston. 1098 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,360 Well, maybe she just wants to run Boston. 1099 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,800 Who knows? But maybe she'll do the double 1100 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,040 because she's crazy enough. Was she 5th or 6th here last 1101 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,360 year? In Boston, I think, yeah, she 1102 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,960 was 6th, so. So the good showing by her, but 1103 01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,720 yeah, Boston, April 20th going to be really exciting, will be 1104 01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:35,680 there on site. So stay tuned for our plans from 1105 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,360 there. But yeah, I guess like, was 1106 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,000 there any other news that I guess we missed from the last 1107 01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:46,600 week, those Fred Curley news that wasn't enhanced games 1108 01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,520 related? But it looks like the charges of 1109 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,680 domestic battery with strangulation and strong arm 1110 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,920 robbery that stemmed from that incident with his wife from May 1111 01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,400 2024. Those charges have been dropped. 1112 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,400 And then the charges of battery on an officer and resisting 1113 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,960 arrest from Miami Beach in January 2025, the one that was 1114 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,880 captured on camera and shared pretty widely, those were 1115 01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,960 dismissed on the condition that he takes in anger management 1116 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,400 course. But he is set to go to trial for 1117 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,040 the incident that took place between him and Alicia Johnson 1118 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:27,560 in Miami the day or two before the Grand Slam meet that was 1119 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,360 there. So I think that's next month, 1120 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,640 February 17th, I believe, is when the trial date is set for. 1121 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,160 But a lot of people were having a field day with the statement 1122 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,880 from his lawyer where it said the domestic violence charges 1123 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,640 were dismissed outright. The state of Florida, 1124 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,920 fortunately saw what my responding detectives originally 1125 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,720 found that day in May of 2024. My client never touched this 1126 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,960 woman. My client is excited to put this 1127 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,280 behind him and focus on winning races and making our nation 1128 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,000 proud. And everyone's like, what do you 1129 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,120 mean making our nation proud? Like he, he's serving a 1130 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:59,160 suspension and he's in the enhanced games. 1131 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,880 Are we supposed to be proud of winning the enhanced games? 1132 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,600 So people were clinging on to that. 1133 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:09,880 Anything else? Did we talk about Phoenix last 1134 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,400 week? Phoenix bidding for the trials. 1135 01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,320 I think, I can't remember. I think we mentioned it, maybe 1136 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:16,560 about it. Yeah. 1137 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,560 No, we talked. We definitely talked about Saint 1138 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,080 Louis, didn't we? But we didn't talk. 1139 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,920 Maybe we know Phoenix hadn't been announced when we. 1140 01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:25,160 Yeah, Phoenix was announced a couple days later, I think. 1141 01:08:25,359 --> 01:08:26,600 Well, that's what it is, I guess. 1142 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,880 The news is that it's Phoenix versus Saint Louis for the 2028 1143 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,600 US Olympic Marathon Trials, no LA bid. 1144 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,840 So for the people who are like, oh, like it'll be nice if they 1145 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:40,000 can run, you know what the Olympic marathon course would be 1146 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,120 before the games, like not going to happen at this point. 1147 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,479 Like it's there's no new cities that are going to be entering 1148 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,680 the bidding process. It's the bids were due in 1149 01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,439 December and the next steps is that there's going to be some 1150 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,399 site visits from USATF to both of those cities. 1151 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:02,359 But I'm excited just by the fact that like these are two very 1152 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,760 accessible cities. I don't know if I'm leaning one 1153 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,359 way or the other right now. I'd love to see what the courses 1154 01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:11,560 are. But for the Phoenix bid, I did 1155 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:18,120 talk to the CEO of the Brooks C race series and, and race 1156 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:22,640 production that puts on the Las Vegas marathon, the Phoenix 1157 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:24,640 Marathon. And so they're the group that it 1158 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:30,160 will be behind the Phoenix bid and tons of hotels in the area. 1159 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,040 So that checks a a big box. It's not going to be like Eugene 1160 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,399 prices when you try and find some lodging. 1161 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,760 And then the course will be not what the Phoenix Marathon course 1162 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:46,720 is, but they'll find some fair, fast, flat stretches. 1163 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,800 I haven't looked into what the weather is around that time of 1164 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,920 year, but it'll be late March because the date is set. 1165 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,360 I think it's March 25th and 26th are the two options for people 1166 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:01,960 to host the marathon trials in 2028, which is a little bit 1167 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:08,080 later than it was February in 2024 and February again in 2020. 1168 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:12,400 But yeah, have you ever been to either of those cities, Saint 1169 01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,040 Louis or? Phoenix I have not, no. 1170 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,320 No, right? Well, maybe Preet will have to. 1171 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,840 We'll have to check more states off your list because now this 1172 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,480 is your first time. First time in Boston, right? 1173 01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:25,600 Yeah, first time in Boston, so quite excited for that. 1174 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,760 Yeah, What are you going to do? You told me. 1175 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,160 It was like, hey, like, what's our schedule? 1176 01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,720 Because I want to do some sightseeing. 1177 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,480 I mean, I'm curious. Are you going to go to Cheers. 1178 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,800 I'm going to do, I'm probably going to do the freedom walk. 1179 01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,800 I'm, I'm kind of a history nerd, so I will probably do the nerdy 1180 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,560 history stuff. I mean, you know, the Tea Party, 1181 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,080 you know, that's, that's kind of a very British Indian kind of 1182 01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:50,200 colonial, you know, that that kind of stuff is quite 1183 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:51,480 interesting for me. So. 1184 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,280 Can we get you to live tweet just your history tour? 1185 01:10:57,480 --> 01:11:00,680 I'll see what I can do. I will see what I can do Preet. 1186 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:04,080 Takes Boston #preet takes. Boston The other thing I'm 1187 01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:08,960 planning to do is to meet the master of track Twitter, Alex 1188 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,440 Preno, that I'm also going to take that off my bucket list in 1189 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,840 Boston. So yes. 1190 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,680 But yeah, they're looking forward to it and go to and make 1191 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,560 the pilgrimage to the BU track. I think there is a meet the same 1192 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:25,000 day on the Saturday so I might see if I can pop down for that 1193 01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,440 for a little bit as well, just to to see some races on the BE 1194 01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:30,200 track, see what it's really like. 1195 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,000 And then you hit New York the following week, but that'll be 1196 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,320 your first time at the Armory. Yeah, yeah. 1197 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:40,160 I've never been to to the Armory either, so yeah, should be fun. 1198 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:45,520 Exciting times ahead for for Preet and on his Little USA tour 1199 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,240 to kick off 2026. So Stokes Repri, can't wait to 1200 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:55,240 see you in just a couple days. And yeah, next week we'll have a 1201 01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:00,200 bit more of a discussion around world rankings and how some 1202 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:04,600 things have changed and what some of the implications may be 1203 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,200 for not just this season, I think also for next. 1204 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,800 Season, yeah, it's yeah, it's yeah. 1205 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,640 Has. I think they're testing it out a 1206 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,280 little bit this season. That's why they've kind of done 1207 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,840 it this season because it then it doesn't directly impact the 1208 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,200 World Championships. But this is kind of flying under 1209 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,040 the radar. But we'll talk more about that 1210 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,240 next week and we will recap everything that takes place down 1211 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,800 in Boston. 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