1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,600 All right, we're here at the Hoka flagship store on 5th Ave. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,960 just days away from the 2025 New York City Marathon with Jess 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,480 Warner. Judd, how excited are you? 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,760 I guess like the marathon is coming up less than 48 hours 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,760 away. Like where, where your nerves 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,239 at? Where is the excitement level at 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,760 Jess? Like it's it's been a long time 8 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,560 coming. Yeah, I'm really excited. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,720 I think I was probably really excited to start in the marathon 10 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,640 build. Then it's sort of like got 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,160 really tough in the marathon build. 12 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,080 And then it was like this feeling the like dread. 13 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,159 And then now I'm like, oh, I'm excited again. 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,480 So I'm hoping that the excitement will just last until 15 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:37,040 Sunday. But yeah, nerves are a little. 16 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,920 I think it's the fear of the unknown, but just a city in the 17 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,280 buzz around. It's amazing so. 18 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,920 I remember interviewing you at the 2013 like Birmingham Diamond 19 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,600 League and then back then, like you were still running 815 20 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 hundred, like now the concept of like a marathon and just like 21 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,240 how far you've been able to make this progression, like, does it 22 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,280 still feel like this big thing that you're trying to tackle? 23 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,800 Yeah, it's, it's so weird because I think someone asked me 24 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,360 like, oh, would you ever do an 800 again? 25 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,319 I was like, absolutely not. Like I think I'll just tear like 26 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:06,800 my hamstrings just on the start line. 27 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,400 So it's very different. But I've, I've loved the 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,920 training. I think especially after the 29 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,240 last couple of years, it's just been really tough and so 30 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:17,840 actually like to get stuck in and enjoy it again. 31 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,240 And I actually be able to push myself. 32 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,760 I think just stepping away from the track and I wasn't sure what 33 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,200 it was going to look like and yeah, I've just loved it. 34 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,840 So I'm hoping that the marathon like will go well or like I'll 35 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,040 just enjoy the whole process. I'm not, I haven't really got 36 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,720 any expectations. It's just exciting. 37 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,920 What was the best part about marathon training? 38 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Because I feel like sometimes people could just dread the 39 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,800 mileage, the volume and all that stuff. 40 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,640 But you know, there's a beauty in it, too. 41 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,000 Yeah, there is. I think it's been weird because 42 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,360 I say like it's kind of like a sadistic feeling where you're 43 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,960 like, oh, I'm enjoying this, but it's really uncomfortable. 44 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,400 Um, I say I probably enjoyed the long run sessions the most. 45 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,280 Um, so doing like, say like 20-4 miles, but broken up into 46 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,680 sessions that was or like reps was, that was really fun in a 47 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,960 weird way. And like the double threshold 48 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,080 days. That was my first real 49 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,120 experience of it. So it was nice. 50 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,759 I had my husband for the, the second session of the day, but 51 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:13,760 the first one was so hard to get yourself out for on your own. 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,360 But again, I think it's like when you look back at all at 53 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,080 work and you think, oh, actually like I've got myself fit and 54 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,280 I've got myself into a good place and just getting to the 55 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,120 start lines. Probably the biggest thing for 56 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,760 me. Yeah, I guess because for you 57 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,280 the last, what, year and a half like has been really 58 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,960 challenging. Like what it's, you know, that 59 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,000 part of your story of just trying to come to terms the end 60 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,920 of your track career, like on your own terms, Like how did you 61 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,400 navigate just like handling all of that? 62 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,880 Yeah, it's really hard. I think I kind of went into 2024 63 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,320 off the back of a really good 2023 season and was like, right, 64 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,240 here we go, it's the Olympics, like it's what you work for. 65 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,040 And yeah, literally at European Champs in Rome, yeah, had quite 66 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,120 a scary like moment. And it was one of those when I 67 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,680 was coming back from it, I was like, will I be able to run 68 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,240 again? Managed to get like medication, 69 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,200 everything under control. And then literally when I 70 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,320 stepped onto the track, I think it was in 20, 25, like yeah, 71 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,600 this year at Kara and Desi's 10K. 72 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,720 And then it become pretty obvious early on that there was 73 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,760 still like some trauma associated with everything that 74 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,720 had happened. So it was really hard to say, 75 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:17,880 right? I'm stepping away from the 76 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,160 track, but I just physically like more emotionally just 77 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,840 couldn't actually deal with it to started that trauma therapy 78 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,320 in the background, which has been great. 79 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,560 So I think it's left the door open to go back to the track. 80 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:33,200 Hopefully if I can get all that under control, but actually 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 having like a marathon, you know, like to build up for, I 82 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,160 was like, right, I can't think about the track now, let's just 83 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,760 move on to the roads. And I've loved it. 84 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,960 And luckily everything epilepsy wise has been under control. 85 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,520 And I just feel like it's just made me more confident and just 86 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,600 excited to run again. I think there was a lot of time 87 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,240 where I was really just dreading it and thought to be honest 88 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,040 thought, well, should I retire and like stop? 89 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,880 So actually having a second chance has been amazing. 90 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,200 Yeah. What are the feelings that 91 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,000 you're hoping to kind of, you know, experience when you're 92 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,120 standing on that starting line in Staten Island? 93 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,120 Yeah, I think I just want to think of how far I've come and 94 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,280 to be like, I'm actually here. But yeah, it's a weird feeling. 95 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,080 Like it's so weird because it's just so new to me. 96 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,680 So I think I'm just excited to be there. 97 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,720 Like my dad's run a marathon, like run a couple of marathons 98 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,600 before, and he was the reason I sort of got into running. 99 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,160 So it's nice to sort of look at it from that point. 100 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,280 And yeah, it's just, I'm just excited. 101 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:29,640 I think I'm excited at the minute. 102 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,920 I think I'll be point. So I'm like, on earth, am I 103 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,640 doing this? But at the moment, it's like, 104 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,760 right, you're here, just embrace it and everything about it. 105 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:40,680 Yeah, Why New York? I think I've got this amazing 106 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,080 opportunity to do New York, and it was one of those where it was 107 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,440 like, oh, actually this is kind of nice because there's no 108 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,280 expectation. It's a challenging course, no 109 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,280 pacemaking, you know, like it's one of those where it's like 110 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:54,440 it's just a pure race. So that was kind of what tempted 111 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,360 me. I didn't want to put any, 112 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:56,560 especially after the last couple of years. 113 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,160 I didn't want to put too much pressure on. 114 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:03,520 But yeah, like it's just I did my first like international race 115 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,880 here, like the 5th Ave. Mile in 2017. 116 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 So a couple more miles this time. 117 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,480 But it's nice to come back and I love the city and I, I just have 118 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,880 such good memories from that 2017 race. 119 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,600 So to actually come back and be like, right, OK, I'm going to do 120 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:18,960 a marathon here. Like my first one. 121 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,680 It just it it seemed to make sense. 122 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,360 When you got a really good half marathon on the board with like 123 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,800 your performance in Houston, I guess like what did that tell 124 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,920 you about just sort of like your thoughts of like, all right now 125 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,920 doing this twice, like the double the distance. 126 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Yeah, it's weird because I actually felt really strong. 127 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Yeah, Houston. And in between that and like 128 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,480 this, I had like the big half again. 129 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,720 I felt like good. But it was, I think when I 130 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,560 crossed the line, I was like, oh, no, I've got to do that 131 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,040 again. But it is very different, I 132 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,640 think because there was some like Sunday like workouts where 133 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,600 I was thinking like, oh gosh, I've got to run pretty much like 134 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,080 26 miles like total. So can I do that? 135 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,720 And it's crazy what your body can do when you just get it 136 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,320 mentally right or get into the zone. 137 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,000 So I'm hoping that it will be OK, but yeah, I think the half 138 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,400 has definitely prepared me because it that some of those 139 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,080 races have just been so fast as well. 140 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,160 So hopefully it won't quite be going out like that quick for 141 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,840 the half. And then yeah, I just think it 142 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,760 would be so rewarding to be like, it's something I've never 143 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,680 done before, so if I can finish, I'll be really happy. 144 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Yeah. So the visualization part of 145 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,520 marathon training and like envisioning crossing the finish 146 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,120 line in Central Park, like what does that look like to you? 147 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,440 And just like when did you have those moments in in training? 148 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,720 Yes, we, yeah, we actually moved this year in July. 149 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,200 So we moved up into, it's like a place called Clitheroe in the 150 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,120 River Valley, so not too far from Manchester. 151 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,840 And it's very much country roads, hills everywhere. 152 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,840 So quite early on it become like, OK, this is really good 153 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:49,440 preparation for New York. And there were some really hard 154 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,880 hills where the wind was like blowing across and the rain. 155 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,440 And it was just thinking like, right, if it's like that on 156 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,440 Sunday, then that I'm prepared for that. 157 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,080 And especially some of the hills I was coming up where I was like 158 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,760 nearly crying and like some 3K on one K off sessions. 159 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,520 I was thinking, right, OK, well, just get prepared for Central 160 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,560 Park. At least there will hopefully be 161 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,640 more than like, I love my husband, but it was just him. 162 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,080 So I was like, hopefully it'll be more than him like out there. 163 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,920 So I think that's when you sort of like start to visualize it 164 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,720 and be like, right, OK, I can, I can do this. 165 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,000 If I can get into like Central Park and get on those hills, 166 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,760 like the rolling. Hopefully I've prepared for it. 167 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,560 But again, it's new. So if I haven't, then it's like, 168 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,640 right, we'll, we'll learn from that. 169 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,200 And hopefully bring it into another marathon blog. 170 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,440 Yeah, well, Jess, it is so nice to see you back and also best of 171 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,120 luck on Sunday. Oh, thank you very much. 172 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,120 Awesome.