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All right, we're here at the 
Hoka flagship store on 5th Ave. 

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New York City Marathon Weekend. 
And it's a special one because 

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Hilary Bohr is making his 
marathon debut. 

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How are we feeling? 
I'm feeling good, I'm excited, 

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but at the same time I'm scared.
What? 

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Are you scared about? 
It's, this is a marathon, so 

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it's, it's, it's something 
unknown to me. 

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So I, I truly rebelled for it. 
But at the same time, you know, 

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they say something happened 
sometime, but I'm, I'm, I'm 

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excited. 
All right, take me through 

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training. 
How did this block go? 

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It went really well like I 
couldn't have asked you for a 

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better blog like this like 
normally when I when I'm in 

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truck season, I can call with 
more than four weeks without 

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having something some issues. 
But this I had like AI split it 

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into almost two sides because I 
cancelled all my racing in the 

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in the summer except the 20 
gauge just for the test. 

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And then since June, I had 12 
weeks of really good training to

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the 20 gay, then when the 20 gay
had a good race and then back 

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then I had seven weeks after 
that. 

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OK. 
So yeah. 

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Volume wise like this is 
different How how how? 

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Much. 
Yeah, different like so 12 weeks

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before the 20 gay high average 
probably between 135, the lowest

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to one 35125 to 135. 
So I'm probably average 1:30 for

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12 weeks and then. 
Down 90. 9 the miles for the 20 

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gay and then other. 20 gay I 
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then the table. 
What did I mean? 

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So that's an increase from when 
you're training for the half. 

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Yes. 
And So what did the what'd you 

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learn from the half marathon 
builds that you're hoping? 

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OK, like that was successful 
because you did, you know, you 

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broke 60 minutes and everything.
But it's like, all right, now we

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got to just double the distance.
So actually, you know, my plan 

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was to run spring marathon. 
Yeah, last year, so we kind of 

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went to spring, the fall of last
year, the spring like a new, 

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another build up, but my mileage
was like 1/25, 1:20. 

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So but in February I was like, 
no, there's no way I can run the

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marathon after I ran Houston. 
Like this is hard. 

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I need more time. 
And then we decide like OK, just

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finish the racing and then start
a new build up. 

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So when I came to run the New 
York Ave., I was, you know, 

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marathon training. 
But I wasn't doing like faster 

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long run. 
I wasn't doing. 

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I was just doing timber runs and
then track workouts. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So then when you see someone 

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like Conor Mance who like has 
had the success, like in these 

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marathons and like you're in 
these races too. 

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So like, does that give you any 
confidence that like, hey, like 

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I think this can go really well 
because I'm, I'm racing that guy

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all the time. 
Of course, I mean like I raced 

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Conor Mance twice this year, the
New York guy when the 20 gay. 

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I think the 20 gay was the best 
test of I had like I was with a 

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Mandela mile to go and again, 
this is 20 K. 

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This is different. 
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this other you can be fit there,
but there's other stuff like 

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when it comes to nutrition. 
So at the first build up I had 

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issues with the just like taking
the sports train but now I took 

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time to just make sure I I use 
it every run, every runs and the

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last few long runs the AFLS felt
better. 

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So. 
There's a lot of unknowns when 

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it comes to marathon, especially
when it comes to nutrition and 

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the weather of course is look 
nice for Sunday and the way I 

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run the 20 gay. 
I didn't tell but for that 20 

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gay like. 
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had a. 
A 20 mile long run at 1:40. 2 so

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coming. 
In I wasn't fresh and the way I 

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fell and the way 5632 fell was 
like oh, that's like 59 base for

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the half and it felt a little 
relaxing. 

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So that was that was really a 
boost confidence got going in. 

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I was supposed to run the 10 
mile lap in Minnesota, but I was

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like no, the training is 
working, it's just let's just 

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get ready for the new. 
Is there any workout that you 

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know, Yes, the 20 K was a, it 
was a race that gave you 

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confidence. 
But then, workout wise, what's 

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the sexiest workout you put 
together this time? 

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Hey, so the way I look at it 
like we have a seven day cycle, 

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right? 
We have so we have truck walk 

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out on Tuesday, Friday Tambo 
long run Sunday or long run 

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Sunday walk out Tuesday, no walk
out Wednesday, another long run 

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on Sunday on Saturday. 
So there's one after the 20 gay 

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a week before Chicago, right. 
I had a we did a matter of it's 

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time staying on Tuesday. 
We started like 438 all the way 

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to 415. 
What? 

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And the regard was 200 meter 
choke like 90 seconds. 

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This is that altitude. 
Remember Colorado Springs? 

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Yeah. 
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normally I do 20 miles on a is 
nice easy elevation gain of up 

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to 1700 feet. 
And then on Friday we came back 

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and did a fat leg. 
It was. 

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Let me remember. 
The fat leg, it was ten, 52105. 

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Two, it was really good. 
On a hilly course and was buffet

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like it was cute. 
And then my last long run is the

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one that I felt like I was, I 
think I was ready because we I 

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did a 40 gay at 312 base by 
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miles. 
So that was like a little bit of

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boost for me, so. 
So you're fit. 

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I think, I think I should say, I
think, I think, I think, I think

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I'm fit. 
So yeah. 

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And then I guess like the next 
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like, all right, that's nice 
that like you can run fast. 

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But like it, it's going to be 
tactical too. 

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Like there's going to be a point
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have to make a conscious 
decision at some point in this 

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race where if the top guys go, 
you can look around and be like,

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all right, maybe here's BIA, 
here's, you know, Joe Clecker. 

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Do I stay back and race like the
Americans or do I go and this is

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your first one, So like, where's
your head out right now? 

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And like, yeah, what? 
Are you shooting for I am a 

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competitor, yeah. 
Like, like, you know, the call 

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is 2028, right? 
But this is like we have three 

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years of room to just learn how 
to race, how to compete in the 

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marathon. 
And I'm a competitor. 

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So I came here to race and 
compete. 

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And if those, if any moves is 
being made is as a competitor, I

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have to go with any move. 
So I'm taking all the risky 

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tomorrow on Sunday, just going 
with the side, yes, going with 

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the bungees and see how long I 
can hold. 

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If I if I can hold 16, if I can 
hold 20 miles, if I can be done 

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this 25 miles, it's something 
you can go back and they say, 

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OK, what made me stay in this 20
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What made me catch up at 10 
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So it's just learning. 
Through it, but I'm not afraid 

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to go there and. 
Compete. 

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Even the top guys, Yes, I love 
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I love this. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, like, we just saw Alex 
beside run pretty fast in in 

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Chicago wearing the same shoes 
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Sunday. 
So I mean, when you see 

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performances like that, I'm just
more and more data points for 

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confidence. 
And on to it like that was a 

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biggest confidence for me when I
saw my site One, it's funny 

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because when I did that long 
run, it's the first time I used 

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the the new Olga prototype. 
I knew I was like, Oh, this is 

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feel amazing. 
And then to see what Alex might 

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say. 
Did we? 

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It's just a confident post. 
Like, OK, now we just need to 

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get down to offload the 
nutrition. 

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Agree with me. 
And then hopefully, you know, if

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I was up to me, it's like I know
New York is tactical. 

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But I hope they go out in 63. 
And then? 

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Just we crying through it so. 
I love it because you're like 

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when you look at the start list 
and you see the names like Abdi,

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you know, Kipchiogi Bekele. 
I mean, there's nothing to be 

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scared of. 
Right, No, yeah, really no. 

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It's just like at the end of the
day we Scott put in a put in 

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really a good training for us 
and I felt like every walk out, 

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every long run I didn't struggle
for some reason. 

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So I have probably had one time 
when I struggle, but about from 

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that is like it felt like came 
natural to me. 

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But tabby ran like a 2O7 in in 
Chicago, but he has stomach 

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issue. 
He stopped at some point just 

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because he was throwing up. 
I felt like you would have run 

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two O 5 and that's someone I 
trained with every day and every

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day we finished the work all 
together. 

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So it's that's another confident
post for me. 

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And you know, the training is 
working. 

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It's just a matter of trying it 
out so. 

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Yeah, You think the time is 
right, I guess, like for the for

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the marathon debut, because you 
said it to you maybe a year ago,

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you were close to debuting in 
the marathon, you stayed in the 

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steeplechase for so long and 
then I guess it was the foot 

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injury, right, that like 
eventually pushed you to the 

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roads. 
All along like looking back at 

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my training, I always enjoy long
term runs. 

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I since college that my long has
been like 200 miles. 

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You're 10, Miller from a couple 
years ago. 

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Still one of the most impressive
ones of your PRS. 

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Yes, I mean, like so far Rose 
feel covered the one until I 

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have until so we I need to 
figure out. 

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Hopefully it feels the same the 
last 17 kilometers, you know, 

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like I've never had any issue on
the road race so far and I I'm 

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praying and I hope it's going to
be the same on Sunday. 

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So what do we define success? 
I know you have ABC goals, 

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probably behind the scenes. 
I mean, I don't think it's crazy

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to think of the podium. 
I don't think so too, for sure. 

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But at the end of the day, I 
think success for me is like 

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compete, like to compete and see
how long I can hold it. 

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If that means finishing in the 
top three, that would be good. 

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If that means being into five, 
that would be good. 

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But at the end of the day, you 
just come beat, come beat. 

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Awesome. 
I'm excited for you. 

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Well, best of luck on Sunday, 
Hillary. 

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Thank you. 
Sweet.