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All right, we are back. 

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It is Monday, April 6th. 
I'm Chris Chavez. 

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I'm Preet Majethia. 
And this week in track and field

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we've got quite a bit to 
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really weren't too many meets 
that were highlighted going into

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last week. 
But we had Shakira Richardson 

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flying out to Australia and 
winning a race that's been run 

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since 1878 and then going 
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We'll talk about that because 
Shane Thompson erased a world 

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record that had been sitting in 
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first term. 
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So we'll talk a little bit. 
We'll touch on that one. 

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BYU freshman Jane Hettergren 
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race of the 2026 season and 
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10K by 4 seconds. 
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and Shipby of Botswana, the 400 
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9.89 in 100 twice in the same 
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So we're going to unpack all of 
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We also had a couple 
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Relays in Gainesville, FL, where
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And yeah, then there was some 
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Europe, so we'll touch on all of
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Preet, how was your weekend? 
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obviously, Easter break, So a 
four day weekend for us here in 

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in the UK, which I don't think 
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the US, But yeah, four day 
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But I had one of my busiest 
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I do there's a big Hindi 
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like 20 musicians going for 8 
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the live streaming and all of 
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So I was running around doing 
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family today. 
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here, so yeah, just literally 
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So yeah, been been a pretty busy
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Yeah, for one weekend you turn 
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handling all of the production 
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Things, Oh yeah, no, no, I've 
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for years. 
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fastidious yet, but yeah, no, I,
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this kind of thing for, for the 
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So yeah, yeah. 
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hard it is to do what Mack does.
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anything Mack does. 
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all, all to line up all the 
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them to and all the cameras to 
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all that kind of stuff. 
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for the for the hard work he 
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look as good as they do. 
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we've got lined up for the 
Boston Marathon. 

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We're going to do a watch along 
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day, and he's been working hard 
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we're going to present some live
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So this watch along where it'll 
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might be a little different than
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people with all of the 
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follow along with what's 
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So the Boston Marathon weekend 
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we'll share our full details on 
that very soon. 

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I'll include links in the show 
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everything that we've got lined 
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Saturday morning, where we're 
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Pro runners coming out for that 
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You'll be able to RSVP to that. 
We'll have a live conversation 

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with Jess McClain immediately 
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We'll also be around all 
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Eric and Aisha's live show on 
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marathon relay on Saturday. 
And so if you're in Boston, it's

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one of the best weekends of the 
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I'm still facing sort of my book
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like 2-3 months. 
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much of the marathon excitement 
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mean, you know, put the final 
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is coming up very soon. 
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Exciting. 
We look forward to reading it. 

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Well, yeah, the first draft is. 
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I guess like I was given a 
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getting pretty close to there's 
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because I could probably end up 
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details or too many numbers on 
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And so that's I'm lucky to have,
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possible, both the the die hard,
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also, you know, the first timers
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up in 2027, hopefully. 
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So yeah, that should we get into
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action. 
Well, well, how was your weekend

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actually, because you are here, 
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and and a bit of fun down in in 
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Yeah, I was down in Gainesville 
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Boost program. 
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classes now and so for people 
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the Magic Boost, I started this 
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and improve the diversity and 
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track and field media landscape.
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think it's over 40 alums of this
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who does all the real Talk with 
T interviews, you know, Serenity

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Douglas, who you've probably 
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You know, lots and lots of folks
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program and Serenity and T were 
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kind of gave back as mentors to 
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broadcast. 
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rising, you know, fresh new 
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the guidance and mentorship when
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And so we put out an application
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close to 100 applicants for it 
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8, some of them in college, some
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little bit more energy, some 
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into it and some energy. 
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build the programming for this 
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which is not, you know, the 
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anything like that. 
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competing, which allows for more
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Boost crew to get some reps when
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calls, doing post race 
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Olympics, you know, on the 
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Carrie Tollefson, who's on 
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broadcast that's out there. 
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cool for them to serve as our 
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veterans of the game. 
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the growth that some people had 
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and the first call that they got
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end of the second day where they
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more volume, more confidence. 
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their step, stepping out of 
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calling, you know, if they were 
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race or something like that. 
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something like that, how you 
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high school boys 800 and then 40
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So we're super thankful to the 
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school for working with us 
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Florida, coach Mike Holloway, 
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like one of the most rewarding 
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the with the program as the 
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sorts. 
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of these magic boosters to be 
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rather than later. 
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But this was great to see them 
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So yeah. 
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little clips and I think one of 
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Paulie Throws and Freddie 
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unlikely duo, teaming up on a 
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That was that was pretty cool. 
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was some. 
It looked like it was good fun. 

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Paul was an honorary member of 
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because he's a University of 
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programming and I was blown 
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He's I think gonna be on the 
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reporter this weekend in Ramona 
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happening there and he's going 
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Johnson of throws essentially. 
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4 by 4 and 801 ten hurdles race 
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He's he's really, really good. 
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who I wish he was on this. 
He couldn't make today's 

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episode. 
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raspiness to his his voice, he 
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true like broadcaster voice. 
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smoking cigarettes. 
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more and he might, he's, he's 
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he's going to be testing himself
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I think we're making some plans 
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November or something like that.
So, yeah, no very, very fun, fun

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around the world. 
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Let's start with the one I guess
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most attention on social media 
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that's Shikari Richardson 
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Now, before this weekend, Preet,
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does get a bit of play on on 
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isn't a huge amount going on at 
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it's a bit weird. 
It's a race on grass. 

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It's a really weird distance. 
It's 100. 

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And 120. 
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So it's like it's very, very 
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thing is all about. 
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other races as well, but but we 
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women. 
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it is this handicap, right, that
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a couple of star athletes, 
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athletes who are given. 
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are kind of given more of a 
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other athletes to see. 
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to win and, and he can catch 
them. 

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Yeah. 
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additional context on there. 
I believe that there's, oh man, 

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I can't do the conversion on 
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in USD? 
British pounds or yeah, I've got

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probably about 100 and $110,000,
a $120,000 somewhere in that 

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hundred, yeah, something, yeah, 
hundred, $110,000, yeah, 

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something like that. 
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across both both genders. 
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it up. 
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this over three days. 
Now she carried didn't race, you

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know, over three days, I think 
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I believe it must have been 
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she won, made-up the gap and 
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But there was a drone angle that
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know, showed just how she was 
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actually. 
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thing that we have out there to 
that super often viral tweet 

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that comes up every Olympic 
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there was an average Joe 
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to see just how they would do 
well here. 

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Here it is. 
It's it's and we're giving the 

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average Joe's a head start. 
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Stalwell, which is a rural 
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And so if you were impressed by 
the way Shakira didn't just 

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advance to the final, she won 
the whole thing because on this 

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on the final day, she had I 
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person, which is there's some 
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Australian sprinters. 
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in high school, some of them 
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that. 
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Linford Christie, Asafa Powell, 
Kathy Freeman have participated 

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at this thing and won it, but 
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that the professional runner is 
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On the men's side, Christian 
Coleman, she carries boyfriend, 

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2019 world champion in the 100 
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record holder. 
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eliminated in the semi finals. 
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able to make up the gap, and so 
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I forget what's the name of the 
like Shakiri's literally 

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stealing all the headlines that 
I don't have the name of the 

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winning guy. 
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Como Lafay. 
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men's side, but Shikari wins by 
Point O 5 / 19 year old 

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Charlotte Nielsen and she 
pockets $27,500 for the victory.

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And once again, the video of 
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And now I guess before we go any
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the Internet discussion around 
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actual sort of performance by 
Shakiri and what it could signal

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for the 2026 outdoor season? 
Because we've seen her open up 

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quick and then we've also seen 
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bad. 
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storyline. 
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it was fast and and this is more
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2023-2024 she carry to kind of 
look like and that's a good sign

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of things to come because that 
would signal that she would be a

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mental threat, which is not what
she was last year. 

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Yeah, I mean, I she looked 
really good. 

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Let's be honest. 
She looked healthy. 

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She looked really good and she 
looked like she was having fun 

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out there. 
So I mean, I think that's that's

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what we can ask. 
Obviously it's early, as we 

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always say, might be too early 
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we are. 
I think she is going to go over 

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to China from here for the for 
the Chinese diamond leagues. 

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She normally does run some some 
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China. 
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kind of real test of where she's
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But she definitely looks. 
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she looks definitely in a better
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her 100m split was 11 O, so if 
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that sounds pretty good to be 
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running 120 meter race. 
So that's not on grass without I

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think. 
I don't know. 

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They didn't really have proper 
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It's like. 
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like a tiny little bit of 
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This is where I think people who
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performance start to lose me a 
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I think it was just really cool 
that, you know, she's one 

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healthy race #2 racing and #3 
having fun. 

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Like those are the biggest, I 
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for some more legitimate and 
great track performances that 

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that are that are to come. 
I saw the numbers floating 

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around that she split, you know,
faster in this 120 than Julian 

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Alfred did in her London Diamond
League 200 and faster than some 

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Sharika Jackson split. 
And it's like, no, now you're 

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now you're getting a little 
carried away. 

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Like that's making too much out 
of this performance. 

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She's healthy. 
She came from behind this field 

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to take the win. 
She's such a compelling 

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personality when she's on. 
She's on right now. 

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And now it only kind of makes 
this, you know, more excited for

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the first potential showdown 
that we have with her and her 

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training partner, Melissa 
Jefferson Wooden. 

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And there may have been like a 
tiny degree of concern over 

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Melissa Jefferson Wooden pulling
out of the Miramar Invitational 

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this past weekend in another 
part of Florida, but she was 

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there to cheer on her teammates.
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broadcast that I caught, like 
she said, because someone said 

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when they interviewed her, 
they're like, oh, you're a 

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little bit banged up right now. 
And that's why I didn't get to 

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race. 
Like, what What brought you out 

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here today? 
And she, like, made it very 

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clear. 
She's like, no, I'm not banged 

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up right now. 
Like, I'm just, you know, taking

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my time. 
And there's no point in the 

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triple gold medalist to open up 
at a meet like the Miramar 

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Invitational. 
Like again, sort of this is 

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where sometimes the the lack of 
a huge professional structure in

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this sport and you end up having
college kids and high school 

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kids racing against these world 
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But Melissa knows her worth. 
I think like she should open up 

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at at these diamond leagues, 
take a big paycheck from those 

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DLS out in China and maybe 
that's where we get to see her 

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perform. 
I think she might be, but she 

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probably ends up opening up at 
Tom Jones because it's local and

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close and so that's coming up in
like 2 weeks out in Gainesville.

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But Shakiri's already, I think 
announced for a 200 against Is 

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it Amy Hunt and Julian Alfred? 
Or was that, Yes, it's 

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definitely Amy Hunt. 
I couldn't remember who else was

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was I think Sharika. 
I think Sharika Jackson in 

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China, yes, but I think there's 
22 hundreds in China. 

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I don't know if all three of 
them are running both or if 

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they're just running one of 
them, but I think Melissa did 

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say like, I think they were 
meant to run the women's 4 by 1.

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So Dennis Mitchell, he insisted 
like the guys as well, like 

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Kenny and stuff only run the 
four by one to open up at this 

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meet. 
Kenny wanted to run a 300 or 

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something and open up properly. 
But he said in his interview, it

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was quite funny. 
Like he kept on saying, oh, 

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coach did said no. 
And the interview asked him, are

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you going to are we going to see
you running 400 this season? 

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He was like, yeah, I wanted to, 
but Coach said no. 

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And Dennis Mitchell comes in and
kind of jumps on him and 

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interrupts the interview. 
Like, oh, it gives him a hug, 

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but he was probably listening to
his interview. 

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He was like, I'm getting thrown 
under the bus here. 

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Like ends the interview quite 
quickly. 

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I did catch that, but I didn't 
have my volume turned up. 

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And so I was wondering like what
Dennis Mitchell jumped in to 

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say. 
But yeah, Kenny was part of a 

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four row one. 
That's what you typically see, 

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you know, this week and, and and
next week with all these relay 

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meets, you just have these pro 
runners entered in relays to get

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the legs going to get a feel for
relays, which is not something 

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that you'll practice in a race 
environment much later on in the

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season. 
So occasionally you'll see some 

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people open up with their own 
individual races. 

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Like we saw Gabby Thomas with a 
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the Texas Relays. 
She was so, so happy because I 

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guess the clock when she crossed
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said like, you know, 1098 or 
something like that. 

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But once the official results 
came out, it was another 11 

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flat. 
But it's a good, it's a good 

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sign of things to come. 
And you know, she put a gap on 

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the women behind her who were 
also pretty accomplished. 

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So a good sign from from Gabby 
at Texas Relays, even though it 

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was crushing that it wasn't when
legal and under 11. 

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Yeah. 
And I think this is obviously 

465
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the storyline that sort of came 
to the fore, I mean close to the

466
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,000
fore every time this time of 
year of her sort of near misses 

467
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:55,640
in, you know, in, in the in the 
100 meters. 

468
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,880
I think she's run 11.00 wind 
legal three times and she's run 

469
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,360
sub ten wind illegal 5 or 6 
Times Now over the last few 

470
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,160
years. 
So it's got to be pretty like 

471
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,960
the wind gods just have it in 
for air or the timing gods, 

472
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,160
whoever it is like that. 
She hasn't got her sub 11, even 

473
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,720
just a 10.99. 
And you kind of really hope that

474
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,960
she eventually gets it because 
obviously it is it is one of 

475
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,680
those things that she really 
wants on her resume. 

476
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,240
And yeah, it's, it's just a a 
bit of a shame that that she 

477
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,880
hasn't quite quite got on there 
on that. 

478
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:34,920
I think it's going to bug her 
when, like, then you had Mariah 

479
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,040
Maxwell, the high schooler at 
the same meet, beating all of 

480
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:45,120
the collegians in the 200 there.
She ran like a win dated 2225. 

481
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,880
But, you know, you put Mariah 
Maxwell in 100, and maybe 

482
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360
there's a chance that she also 
gets under 11 seconds. 

483
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,960
And then you're just Gabby 
sitting from afar being like, 

484
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:56,680
what? 
Come on, Like, why? 

485
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Why can't I finally do it? 
So listen, I think I said this 

486
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240
last year around this time, 
Gabby, I feel you. 

487
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,000
I was very much the same way 
when it came to the sub 5 minute

488
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,400
mile. 
But once you do it, you're gonna

489
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:16,000
feel amazing and then you'll 
never have to do it again. 

490
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,600
And that's that. 
I mean, didn't in our group 

491
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,240
chat, Anderson say something 
like he thinks that she should 

492
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,240
kind of divert more of her 
effort towards the 24 instead of

493
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320
dabbling with 100? 
I, I, I was like busy with a 

494
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,960
bunch of stuff, so I didn't. 
I mean, you know, I, I think 

495
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,000
she's kind of said that's what 
she's doing. 

496
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,240
I think she's been pretty open 
about that's what she's doing. 

497
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,040
But I think obviously she still 
wants that sub 1100, right? 

498
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,040
But either way, either way, 
right, she's healthy, which is a

499
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,520
great sign. 
And and I think just signs from 

500
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,800
this weekend, the women's 200 
meters, things are looking up. 

501
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,200
Sharika Jackson is healthy and 
running. 

502
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,440
She ran a 300 at Miramar. 
She didn't win it. 

503
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,520
She ran a bit slower than she 
ran the 300 at Miramar last 

504
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,880
year. 
She ran a bit slower, but she 

505
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,040
ran 36.15 last year, 36.51 this 
year. 

506
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,840
But at the same time, she's 
healthy, she's running. 

507
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,920
And we know like she rounded 
into metal shape by the end of 

508
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,000
end of last season. 
And also Shawnee Miller Weibo 

509
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,680
ran 2243 for 200 meters, which 
is a mighty impressive opener. 

510
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,720
To be honest, I thought that 
that was probably the biggest 

511
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,880
kind of thing for the 200. 
But having Gabby healthy Sharika

512
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,560
Shawnee, obviously Melissa's 
there. 

513
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,440
She carry might be getting back 
to her best. 

514
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,520
Julian's healthy and good to go.
I think we could get some. 

515
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,960
I'm not sure we'll get them all 
matching up in the 200 until 

516
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,440
maybe World Ultimate, but if we 
do, Elaine's also healthy and 

517
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,560
opened up. 
So, you know, could be some 

518
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,480
exciting matchups anyway over 
the 200 to come this year. 

519
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,320
There's just not enough lanes 
with all this talent, right? 

520
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,240
Like if you were to, if you were
to pick, you know, eight or nine

521
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,800
of the most intriguing 200 meter
runners right now, Like let's go

522
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,560
with, all right, the three 
medalists from last year, right?

523
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,960
You got Melissa, Amy, who's 
bronze, Sharika, Sharika. 

524
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,680
All right, so that's three 
lanes. 

525
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,920
There's Shakari in there 'cause 
you need Shakari. 

526
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Throw Shawn A in there 'cause 
she's rounding into form. 

527
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,320
That's 5 already. 
Julian 6. 

528
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320
Julian, Alfred. 
It's the Olympic silver 

529
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880
medalist. 
Gabby Thomas. 

530
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Gabby Thomas, Brittany Brown, 
Obviously Deena, Rasher Smith 

531
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,240
throw in there. 
Yeah, I think you've got. 

532
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,240
Yeah, I think, I think that. 
Where's the Navy battle? 

533
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,120
Where's McCain? 
Yeah. 

534
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Exactly. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 

535
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,800
I mean, I think I really hope we
get to see them all at World 

536
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,240
Ultimates now. 
I don't know if everyone will 

537
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,600
double. 
That's the only unfortunate 

538
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,960
thing about World Ultimates is 
it's a three day schedule. 4 

539
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,360
races, 3 days. 
Maybe not everyone will double, 

540
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:01,840
but the. 
Money. 

541
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,840
The money, the money might mean 
that they do and. 

542
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,080
And it is, you know, yeah. 
So, so, so maybe it should be 

543
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,400
right, But but it would be it. 
Yeah, let's see. 

544
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,760
But yeah, I'm excited because I 
think 2022, we had this moment 

545
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,040
in the 200 where it was looking 
like we were the 200 was going 

546
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,240
to be insane for the next few 
years. 

547
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,840
And then obviously Sharika was 
kind of like the queen in 2023 

548
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,320
and and then kind of 2024 and 
2025. 

549
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,880
The times didn't kind of 
obviously once Rika got injured 

550
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,560
and then sort of we didn't 
really get the match ups and the

551
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,120
times in the same way. 
Credit to Gabby for doing what 

552
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,640
she needed to do and winning 
that that Olympic title. 

553
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,080
And obviously Melissa obviously 
was focused on the hundreds. 

554
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,440
So we saw a run a few 2 
hundreds, but it wasn't the same

555
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,120
kind of match ups and build up 
to the 200 in in 2025 either. 

556
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,000
So I'm, I'm kind of excited to 
see if we can get a whole bunch 

557
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:08,160
of these ladies facing off 
across the season and, and, and 

558
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:14,360
and running fast times. 
The world record was shaking and

559
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,680
like it was on shaky ice when it
came to 2022. 

560
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,520
I don't know, 2023 and then on 
very thin ice and then I think 

561
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,440
like temperatures cooled over 
the last two years and it was in

562
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,640
a much more solid spot. 
But now this could be the year 

563
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,360
where they get even closer. 
If you have all these people, 

564
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,280
you know, really going up 
against one another. 

565
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,000
And Speaking of, I guess like 
Flojo, because she owns the 

566
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,960
record, we have to, we totally 
gloss over the fact of what else

567
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,440
has been going viral from 
Shakari's performance. 

568
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,760
And that was the fact that I 
don't quite know who what, what 

569
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,920
the guy he, he looked like an AI
bot for, but he's like a, is he 

570
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,560
a professor? 
He's like a Blogger or 

571
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,160
something. 
He's like a Blogger, Yeah. 

572
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,720
He's just some kind of Blogger. 
He's got like 200 and something 

573
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,760
thousand followers on Twitter. 
He randomly posted his tweet. 

574
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Newsletter and he posted the 
video of Shakiri's run and he 

575
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,920
started it started off the tweet
with like the world's fastest 

576
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,120
woman or the fastest no it was 
the fastest woman alive, 

577
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,080
travelled to Australia blah blah
blah blah blah and the 1st 5 

578
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,360
words were enough to crucify 
him. 

579
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,480
The poor guy. 
I felt a bit sorry for her. 

580
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:36,080
People stopped reading and just,
yeah, mostly Jamaican Twitter, I

581
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,639
think just threw him to the 
wolves and, you know, offered 

582
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,560
tons of, you know, corrections 
being like, you know, she's not 

583
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,080
even the fastest American alive,
blah, blah, blah, blah. 

584
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,760
And I was just like, this is so 
stupid. 

585
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,719
We we we kind of talk about this
annually around this time where 

586
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:00,240
people get up in arms whenever 
the phrase, you know, fastest 

587
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,920
man, fastest woman alive gets 
thrown around. 

588
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,080
And when people make a mistake 
and it's often times like a 

589
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:14,160
major sports media outlet, like 
a if SportsCenter did this type 

590
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,800
of thing, this is where they 
kind of go. 

591
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,400
The mob comes out all again, if 
this random guy just made this 

592
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,880
mistake, tweeting out a clip, 
all of a sudden now his mentions

593
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,560
are just on fire because 
everyone thinks that, you know, 

594
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:34,040
he he killed somebody basically.
And I think it's just so stupid 

595
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,160
that these are the same people 
who want to see, you know, the 

596
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:44,800
sport reach new audiences and 
get more eyeballs and that kind 

597
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,720
of stuff. 
But then the moment that one 

598
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:51,280
person gets excited about it and
makes this tiny mistake because 

599
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,320
they're not necessarily like the
most dialed in track fan, then 

600
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440
all of a sudden it's just short 
of like, they they just, yeah, I

601
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,600
mean, crucify the person. 
And so that was the most 

602
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,680
annoying thing I think I saw 
online. 

603
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,840
So the funniest thing was the 
the guy LED into it. 

604
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,880
He's pinned that tweet to the 
top because he got 1,000,000 

605
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,280
views on that tweet. 
Like, I mean, he's happy, right?

606
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,960
Like, yeah, I. 
Think his follow up tweet was 

607
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,080
like subscribe to my newsletter 
for more or whatever it was. 

608
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,240
Exactly. 
And, and, and to be fair, I was 

609
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:21,560
going to kind of try and I was 
trying to do a little bit of 

610
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,160
like, OK, you know, there's 
always this discourse about who,

611
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,320
you know, who is the fastest man
or woman alive And, and why 

612
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,520
should we call that? 
I was going to stir the pot a 

613
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,680
little bit and I was going to 
say, well, should we be 

614
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,520
considering Christian Coleman 
and Arena Privolova, who were 

615
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,640
the 60 meter world record 
holders? 

616
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,560
Or should we be considering? 
Well, obviously it's Usain and 

617
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,400
Flojo who are 100 and 200 meter 
world record holders. 

618
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:47,400
And what I found, well, 
obviously Flojo is no longer 

619
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,640
alive, but you know, Elaine, 
Elaine on the 2000, sorry, 

620
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,000
Sharika on the 200 side. 
But what I found was that the if

621
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,080
you actually calculate their 
speed, the 100 meter record is 

622
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,560
still the the quickest. 
So that is quicker in terms of 

623
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,120
meters per second than the 60 
meters, because I guess you 

624
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,080
spend a bit more time bit a 
bigger proportion of the race 

625
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,640
and 60 meters getting up to 
speed. 

626
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,400
So in terms of the speed across 
the whole race, it's not as 

627
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,560
quick. 
And at the same time, the 200 

628
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,240
actually they were slightly 
slower over the 200 than they 

629
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:25,560
were in the in those hundred 
quickest 100 meter quickest 

630
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,080
time. 
So I think we can definitively 

631
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,400
say we think it should be based 
on the 100 meters. 

632
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,760
And I think therefore, on that 
basis, the fastest people alive.

633
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:42,600
And you say bowl and Elaine 
Thompson Hera, But yeah. 

634
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,040
And and I think obviously the 
other title that gets debated 

635
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,800
massively is world's fastest man
or world's fastest woman. 

636
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,800
And that's the that's the other 
one that kind of sits alongside 

637
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
this. 
And I think we got to the 

638
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,280
conclusion that that is the 
reigning global champion in. 

639
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,680
The 100 years, that's what we we
want it to be, yeah. 

640
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Because I think there you've 
kind of got, I mean, there there

641
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,320
is some debate about should it 
be the reigning Olympic 

642
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,520
champion. 
But I don't think anyone would 

643
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:16,440
have said in 2022 or 2023 or 
2024 up to the Olympics that 

644
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Lamont Marcel Jacobs was the 
fastest, you know, was the 

645
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,960
world's fastest man. 
So, you know, I don't know about

646
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,360
that. 
But at the same time, maybe, 

647
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,200
yeah. 
So I think the reigning global 

648
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,200
champion is a fair, probably the
fairest thing we're going to get

649
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,200
to. 
As I say, you could say, well, 

650
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,000
who is the fastest person this 
year? 

651
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,600
You're defining it by year. 
Like what? 

652
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,720
What are you doing right? 
But then you have some random 

653
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,480
people early season. 
I don't know who the current 

654
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,560
world leader with the 100 is, 
but you'll have some random 

655
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,000
people. 
Maybe it's, well, it's cabinet 

656
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,840
chippy who who's someone we will
come on to. 

657
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,840
It's talking about a bit more 
detail shortly, but yeah, the 

658
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,880
yeah. 
I just think that part of it 

659
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:07,240
also was that it involved 
Shikari and there's a population

660
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:14,640
of people who don't like her and
this only fed into it because 

661
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,600
someone proclaimed her, you 
know, the fastest woman alive 

662
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,960
and you know, Elaine Thompson 
hara stands are going to take 

663
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,160
issue with it. 
Sheree Jackson, Melissa 

664
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,920
Jefferson wouldn't, and not even
Melissa Jefferson wooden fans 

665
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,440
because I feel like that's just 
generally Americans. 

666
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,240
So, yeah, very, very stupid to 
get upset over something like 

667
00:39:39,240 --> 00:39:42,640
this. 
And I think that, you know, if 

668
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,560
there was a million people 
viewed that clip, then there are

669
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,600
probably other people who were 
wowed by it because the drone 

670
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,640
angle was really cool. 
And that's a win for just sort 

671
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,480
of the exposure to Jakiri 
Richardson's brilliance. 

672
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,160
Although it may not be, you 
know, this world record setting 

673
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,480
time, it's still very, very cool
to, you know, observe. 

674
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520
Yeah, and I think that I wanted 
to actually mention that drone 

675
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,280
angle. 
It was incredible like and 

676
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,560
normally I hate drone angles 
right, But this one because the 

677
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,240
shadows on the grass was so 
perfectly visible that the 

678
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,360
overhead shot. 
It still looked like you were 

679
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,120
looking watching the race side 
on because you could see the 

680
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:27,320
shadows moving as well and 
because of the green grass and 

681
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,040
and the dark shadows like they 
stood out really clearly. 

682
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,000
The light was just perfect. 
It was an incredible drone shot 

683
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,760
and I hate drone shots and I 
will complain to the NTH degree 

684
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,680
about the Miramar stream where 
there were some really weird 

685
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,800
drone shots all over the place 
and and crowd shots when the 

686
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,720
races were going on and all 
kinds of things. 

687
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,800
But you know the the but this 
this drone shot was was 

688
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,880
incredibly cool. 
Well, the one thing to take note

689
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,520
of is I don't think that should 
be the angle for the race 

690
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,560
broadcast. 
Like, it's very, very cool and 

691
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,640
awesome for a replay. 
Absolutely. 

692
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,000
Yeah. 
Like, but not that's not how you

693
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,240
would want to watch the race as 
it's unfolding. 

694
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,760
I think still the traditional 
type of race that you see for an

695
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,320
Olympic or world championship 
final is how you should consume 

696
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,560
one of these races where you're,
you know, following whoever the 

697
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,560
leader is from start to finish. 
But the drone angle is what you 

698
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,040
can use, you know, on your first
sort of replay to convey someone

699
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,320
making up a gap, someone's 
surging at the very end of the 

700
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,240
race. 
If you had that drone angle for 

701
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:36,240
a lot of Noah Lyles races, it'd 
be so, so impressive because of,

702
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,560
you know, he's a closer and 
you'd be able to watch how he 

703
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,720
makes up the gap on his 
competitors. 

704
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:46,040
So hopefully there's people out 
there who, you know, logged onto

705
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,240
Twitter, didn't get pissed off 
by the first four or five words 

706
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:52,240
of that tweet and work in TV and
took note of like, oh, this 

707
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,640
would be really, really cool to,
you know, be able to make a race

708
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,840
simply go viral. 
Like, yeah, again, you could 

709
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,720
take a gout, gout, you know, 
race against middle schoolers or

710
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:09,840
whatever it is that he's doing 
and do the same sort of angle 

711
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,200
and it would go, you know, crazy
viral. 

712
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,440
So pro tip for broadcasting 
Sprint races. 

713
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,560
But you brought up Colin Kevin 
Shippy, so let's talk about him 

714
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,440
for a bit. 
He just joined one of the most 

715
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:30,280
exclusive clubs in sprinting as 
the men who have broken 44 

716
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,520
seconds in the hundred in the 
410 seconds in the 100. 

717
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,960
He's only the 4th man ever to do
that, alongside Wade Van 

718
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,760
Niekerk, Michael Norman and Fred
Curley. 

719
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,920
He ran 9.89 in the semi finals, 
then backed it up with another 

720
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,720
9.89 in the finals 5 hours 
later, winning comfortably over,

721
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,600
you know, his Botswana 
compatriot. 

722
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,800
I think 2nd place was 10.21. 
Let's see. 

723
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,400
Late to BOGO, the Olympic 200m 
champion withdrew from the heats

724
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,280
with an injury. 
So we didn't get to see those 

725
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:10,080
two guys go head to head. 
But Kevin Eshippy showcasing 

726
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,400
this kind of speed, it's very, 
very impressive. 

727
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,360
Although he made it clear he's 
not pivoting to the 100 meters. 

728
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,280
We've kind of seen this, you 
know, happen over the last 5-6 

729
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,320
years in track where you have 
the likes of Fred Curley win a 

730
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:33,560
global medal at the 400 and then
transition over to the 100 and 

731
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,520
then he's pocketed 2 Olympic 
medals and a world title in the 

732
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,080
100. 
So that's a very, very 

733
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,280
successful case of that. 
Michael Norman teased the idea 

734
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,840
of doing the same exact thing. 
But then injuries have prevented

735
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,200
him from ever really following 
through with the entire thing. 

736
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,400
And honestly, he's pretty much 
fallen off the face of the 

737
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,520
earth. 
There hasn't really been too 

738
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,960
much of an update on him in the 
last 18 months or so. 

739
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,720
Would love to see him back 
because he's, he is such a 

740
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,640
tremendous talent. 
But when you take him out of 

741
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,320
sort of the equation, Kevin 
Ishippy, who is the reigning 400

742
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,120
meter world champion, is only 
looking even more even even 

743
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,560
stronger now that he's got this 
bit of short speed. 

744
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,920
Doesn't bode well for my bold 
prediction from earlier in the 

745
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,800
year where I said that Rye 
Benjamin would win the Open 4 at

746
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,120
the World Ultimate 
Championships. 

747
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,520
Yeah, I mean, this was a 
massively impressive 

748
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,560
performance. 
Now look, I want, I want to say 

749
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,760
a couple of things about it. 
One, it was at just it's a 

750
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,360
Gabarone in Botswana is at 1000 
meters of altitude. 

751
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Now famously so, we have like 
the likes of Ferdan Amanyala 

752
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,360
who's run 97 in Nairobi, which 
is even higher altitude. 

753
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,920
And famously a lot of the 
Europeans go to a place called 

754
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,400
Lachau da Fonz, which is just 
below the 1000 meters and above 

755
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,840
1000 meters. 
Your performance gets listed at 

756
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,840
altitude assisted. 
Now I don't know, Gabberon is 

757
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,080
literally at around about 1000 
meters. 

758
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,800
So I don't know whether this 
stadium was is just above or 

759
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,440
just below that 1000m threshold.
I think it's just above because 

760
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,440
when you look at his performance
on these databases, it is marked

761
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:27,440
with an A. 
And so, yeah, it's Gaberone is 

762
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:34,360
approximately 1014 feet or 
meters above sea level, that's 

763
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,320
3327 feet. 
Yeah, no, I just didn't know 

764
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,320
whether it's in a dip or a dip 
or a hill within the city, 

765
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,640
right, but but yes, exactly. 
So it's on that borderline. 

766
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,560
And so yes, that I mean, but 
obviously that would probably at

767
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,640
sea level would might still be a
sub ten kind of performance. 

768
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,840
And remember this guy's only 
2020. 

769
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,720
He's only 22. 
He's only just turned 22. 

770
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,440
He's not really built like 100 
meter sprinter. 

771
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,600
He's kind of built more like a 
kind of 400 meter, right. 

772
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,320
He's not he's not very tall. 
He's not, you know, very sort 

773
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,440
of, you know, built as well in 
terms of that jacked. 

774
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,320
Yeah, he's not jacked. 
So like he, so he. 

775
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,720
Does not look like Michael 
Norman. 

776
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,720
No, he looks, he looks more like
an 800 runner than he does 

777
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,360
closer to Michael Norman. 
Yeah, exactly. 

778
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,840
So I, I think he you know, I 
think, but I think you're right.

779
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,760
This is very, very promising for
his 400 meters and it will be 

780
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,240
interesting to see what he can 
do if he if he jumps in 100 

781
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:37,720
meters app that sea level as 
well to see if he can kind of 

782
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,760
replicate some some sub 10 type 
performances. 

783
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,000
And obviously, if you can do a 
98, then then that'll be 

784
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,600
amazing. 
But at the very least, you know,

785
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,440
if you can, you can replicate 
something sub 10, then then 

786
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,240
that'll be really good. 
And obviously you want to be in 

787
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,640
that kind of, you don't want to 
have that asterisk next to the 

788
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,960
the sub 10 when you're in that. 
Like you want to be in that kind

789
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,160
of the sub 10100m runner, the 
sub sub 2200m runner, the sub 

790
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,480
44400m runner, of which you 
know, it's a very small club by 

791
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,680
Van Niekerk, Fred Curly, Michael
Norman, etcetera. 

792
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:15,320
So he's got a 400 meter PB of a 
4350, sorry, sorry, a 200 meter 

793
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,640
PBM and say of just over 20 
seconds, 20/08 or something. 

794
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,720
So, so that looks like it could 
be due for some revision as well

795
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:26,080
as so maybe you can get the sub 
20 there as well as the season 

796
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,360
goes on. 
But yeah, I think still very 

797
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,720
impressive and and I think bodes
well that he's able to replicate

798
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:36,200
it because I think again, for a 
lot of people, maybe he came a 

799
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,000
little bit out of nowhere last 
season. 

800
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,520
And it's just good to see that 
he is kind of continuing our 

801
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,160
trajectory. 
And I think this is the thing, 

802
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,640
right? 
The 400 over the last few years,

803
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,480
it's kind of been a little bit 
cursed by someone getting to the

804
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,040
top and then getting injured, 
right? 

805
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,280
Whether that be the likes of 
Wade Van Niekerk or Michael 

806
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,240
Norman or Quincy Hall. 
You know, it's, it's just been 

807
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,320
one Antonio Watson from Jamaica,
like 1 after the other. 

808
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:05,160
The, the 400 is that kind of 
race where you are trading on 

809
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,920
the edge, right? 
And I think it may be that is 

810
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,000
like when you are getting to the
highest levels of the 400, maybe

811
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:17,280
that injury risk is is pretty 
high and you know, you're 

812
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,720
pushing yourself that hard, But 
you know, it's good to see him 

813
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:23,640
healthy and, and, and looking in
really good shape for the for 

814
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:29,520
the 20 26 season. 
And obviously by Apple and Dory 

815
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,760
bronze medalist also ran a 44 
something 44 mid as well, which 

816
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,400
was a which was a good kind of 
start to the year as well in 

817
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,800
terms of outdoor 400 
performances. 

818
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,000
This is where the World Relays 
are going to be held at this 

819
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:49,840
same exact stadium. 
But when we watched the Botswana

820
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,760
Grand Prix, I believe it was 
last year, right? 

821
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,480
Like the IT was a fresh new 
track, like literally got done 

822
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,200
maybe 48 hours, 24 hours before 
the meet had even started. 

823
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,280
And so it was up until the last 
minute where they were like 

824
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,400
painting the lines. 
And I remember watching a like a

825
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:14,040
head on shot of the 100 meters 
and the lines looked all out of 

826
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,840
place, curved and all that kind 
of stuff. 

827
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,040
So that's where my reservations 
were at the beginning when I saw

828
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,600
this result pop up for me that I
don't know about this track, 

829
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,240
like. 
And then he backed it up in the 

830
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:31,120
finals running another 9.89. 
But yeah, I'd like to see him do

831
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:38,080
it in a sea level sort of race. 
His PR before this was 1053 from

832
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,600
another race at altitude in 
Francis Town, Botswana, with 

833
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,720
-2.8 wind. 
So he made that big, big jump. 

834
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,960
He's putting together a solid 
year so far. 

835
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,240
Already run a 400, you know, in 
Francis Town in, you know, at 

836
00:49:53,240 --> 00:50:00,440
altitude, 4455, a 601167-O. 
Yeah, this guy is going to be a 

837
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,080
problem for years to come for 
American 400 meter runners and 

838
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:10,120
also for the Team USA 4x4. 
So yeah, couple him with to BOGO

839
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,080
and the whole squad that they've
got, they're so dangerous, so, 

840
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,200
so dangerous. 
Yeah. 

841
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,480
And as you mentioned, Tobago, 
slightly less fortunate news was

842
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,240
that Tobago was in the heat just
before cabinet shippy, the first

843
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:27,600
heat of the 100 meters and he 
was doing his final block start 

844
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:33,600
and he kind of tripped and fell 
and he looked like he was in a 

845
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,120
lot of pain, looked like he was 
injured. 

846
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:37,400
He was then carried off the 
track. 

847
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,240
So I hope it wasn't a major 
injury, but it didn't look great

848
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,240
from what what we have seen and 
heard since. 

849
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:51,560
But yeah, fingers crossed that 
Tobago will still be fair and 

850
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,600
healthy. 
And I, I don't know, obviously 

851
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:59,280
World Relays is not far away. 
So yeah, it will be. 

852
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,280
I don't know whether he will be 
turn the line sadly at World 

853
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,720
Relays, but obviously pots on is
still very, very deep in that 

854
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,040
400. 
So it shouldn't be a problem for

855
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,600
them. 
Quick shout out to Max Thomas, 

856
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,520
the former USC sprinter. 
He ran a 9.9 O second fastest 

857
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:20,800
100m of the season and from this
weekend first first race, the 

858
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:27,640
1st 100m race as a pro and 
managed to first time cracking 

859
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:33,120
under 10 seconds 9.9 O All in 
all, I think the take away from 

860
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,560
this one is that we've got 
another, you know, young talent 

861
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,320
that is following, you know, 
just after we had a very, very 

862
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,720
impressive indoor season with 
Jordan Anthony. 

863
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:47,200
Now Max Thomas is inserting his 
name into the conversation. 

864
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,000
This one, you know, maybe came 
as a little bit of a surprise 

865
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,840
because we know of him also as 
just sort of as like a 200m 

866
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,840
runner, but a good start to his 
his professional career or 

867
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,040
professional outdoor season. 
Christian Miller, the former 

868
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,520
high school stand out was second
in the race in like 10.12. 

869
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,000
I think it was. 
I believe it was. 

870
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,840
So it was a dominant victory by 
Max Thomas. 

871
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,200
And I was watching this one from
the stands being like, oh, 

872
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,440
didn't expect that to someone to
drop a nine out today. 9/9 

873
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,480
today. 
Yeah, and he's one of those guys

874
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,040
who was like, I didn't think I'd
heard his name before, but 

875
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,200
actually he's done quite well. 
He was fourth at US indoors in 

876
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,080
60. 
He was second at NCAA's last 

877
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,640
year. 
Like he's been around a little 

878
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,480
bit. 
So I don't think it's like a 

879
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,240
surprise the. 
USC sprinters just kind of mend 

880
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:40,040
and mold together in your head, 
right? 

881
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:44,320
Yeah, but yeah, and another 100 
impressive couple of 100 

882
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,760
impressive 100m performances at 
Miramar. 

883
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,800
Akeem Blake ran 984 with a 2.2 
wind, Yeah, 2.2 win. 

884
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,560
So, you know, probably still 
would have been a nine eight 

885
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,680
with a legal wind, but you know,
again, that's looking good. 

886
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,440
And Tate Taylor, the high 
schooler as well, 995 for second

887
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,680
in that race. 
So or he's, I don't think he's a

888
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,760
high schooler anymore, but yeah,
very, very impressive from him 

889
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,560
as well. 
So yeah, some, some some good 

890
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,520
100 meter performances across 
the weekends from from the men. 

891
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,400
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892
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893
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894
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895
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900
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904
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905
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928
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:10,880
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929
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:18,200
We've made it the runner's soda.
Then of course, we didn't see 

930
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,800
Kashane running the 100 at that 
meet because he ran the 1:50 and

931
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:29,080
he clocked a 14.92 to race 
Linford Christie's 14.97 world 

932
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,560
record from 1994. 
But the reason that this is also

933
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,440
kind of stood for a while is 
because no one runs this event. 

934
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,120
Even when we've seen one 50s in 
the last couple of years, it's 

935
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:44,240
always at that, you know, Adidas
St. meet where they set it up 

936
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:47,160
and it it ends up being a 
straight 150. 

937
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,240
Not necessarily, you know, one 
on a track on a curve. 

938
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:58,040
You know, Mocha from Zimbabwe. 
He was second in 14.96 also 

939
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:04,800
under the previous world record.
So that was it's it's again what

940
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:09,520
you brought up before a sign of 
good things like we already had,

941
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,680
you know, evidence of that, that
Kashane is super fit with the 

942
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,360
silver medal in the 60 at at 
world indoors. 

943
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,240
And now we get further 
validation of that with this 150

944
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,800
meter world record that he said 
this weekend. 

945
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,320
So that was that took place in 
Miramar. 

946
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:34,520
Tia Clayton won the 150, the 
women's 150 and 16.87 with her 

947
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,920
sister, I think finishing third.
Brianna Williams, who was, you 

948
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,160
know, I think based in Jamaica 
for a bit and now is back in 

949
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,280
Florida being coached under Otto
Bolden, showing some good 

950
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,800
success with this 16.92 runner 
finishing that 150. 

951
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,360
Yeah. 
So some solid performances out 

952
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,960
of Miramar and the Sprint season
is in a lot of these names. 

953
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,720
We didn't really talk about much
in the last couple months, but 

954
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,880
everyone's back in action 
because we're outside. 

955
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,920
Next performance I want to touch
on that was a big one. 

956
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:14,680
And we've waited, you know, 50 
minutes into this show to bring 

957
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,080
up is that we saw Jane 
Heddingren break the collegiate 

958
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:24,480
record in the 10K. 
Her debut at the distance she 

959
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,160
dominated broke Parker Valby's 
collegiate record by 4 seconds. 

960
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:38,160
Final time was 3046.80. 
This was her outdoor debut and 

961
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,360
now slots herself at #7 on the 
US all time list. 

962
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,320
When I say dominated like she 
did actually have New Mexico's 

963
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,560
Pamela Cosgai pushing her to 
this record. 

964
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,160
They were actually trading laps 
I think earlier on in the race. 

965
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:02,040
She Pamela Cosgai's the reigning
outdoor champion at 5K and 10K 

966
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:08,280
and she finished three seconds 
back in 30 point 3049.99, also 

967
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,160
under Valby's previous record, 
and then third place was 47 

968
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,560
seconds behind. 
But Jane clearly is in monster 

969
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,880
record setting form. 
Coach Dilji Taylor is a friend 

970
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,480
of the pod, listens to the show,
but not quite ready to fully 

971
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,800
listen to Kyle Merber's 
suggestion of red shirting Jane 

972
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,000
Hedingren. 
Because here she is making this 

973
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,200
statement in her first ever 
10,000. 

974
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:44,360
And so, I mean, for a freshman, 
this is just really, really, 

975
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,320
really good. 
And I mean, not even just for 

976
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,240
refreshment for for any 
collegiate athlete, a little bit

977
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,600
of a head scratcher, right? 
Because, yeah, she comes away 

978
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
with these titles at the NCA 
indoor championships. 

979
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,440
She broke some records there, 
had cross country. 

980
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,320
And you just kind of wonder, 
it's like, when when do we back 

981
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,400
off and take a little bit of a 
break? 

982
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,080
And maybe that comes sooner 
rather than later. 

983
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,680
And then you can, you know, NCAA
isn't until June. 

984
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,320
So you take some time off now 
after this monster performance 

985
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,040
and then build towards the 
championship season. 

986
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,040
But it was a just a bit random 
to do this at the Stanford 

987
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,720
Invitational because, you know, 
I was on the podcast with Turner

988
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,640
Wiley kind of saying how I miss 
when these 10K races and these 

989
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,480
fields were much better at 
Stanford. 

990
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,640
And then we had this performance
this past weekend. 

991
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,640
I always kind of remember as 
Stanford Invite was the opener, 

992
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,720
Peyton Jordan was the the big 
one for the 10 KS. 

993
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,040
And then from there people would
get ready for the championship 

994
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:58,200
season. 
But no, I mean I woke up to to 

995
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,880
this result and was pretty 
wowed. 

996
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,680
Yeah, I mean, incredible result.
Real shame. 

997
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,880
The meat was not streamed in any
way, shape or form, so we 

998
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:10,160
haven't really be able to watch 
this race, which I think is a 

999
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,680
bit of a shame. 
I think there's a video on 

1000
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,640
YouTube captured by either her 
mom or her dad. 

1001
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,080
I know her dad. 
He often does that, doesn't he? 

1002
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,480
Yeah. 
Yeah, he's great at content. 

1003
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,760
I mean, he was shooting some 
photos for us at the NCA cross 

1004
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,680
country championships. 
And so, you know, they probably 

1005
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,640
knew that this was gonna go 
down. 

1006
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,880
And so they went out and they 
there's something on YouTube. 

1007
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,040
I know that for a fact. 
Yeah, but obviously it's not. 

1008
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,600
Yeah, it's not exactly. 
Yeah. 

1009
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,040
It's a it's a little bit 
frustrating that there's not a 

1010
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,960
proper stream of, you know, a 
record setting and silver race, 

1011
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,400
which is kind of what you'd like
to have. 

1012
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,320
And it would be nice to see like
exactly how did she look during 

1013
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,920
like with the 10,000 meters? 
It is a lot about, you know, how

1014
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,240
how easy did it look? 
I mean, she dropped to 66 on the

1015
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,360
final lap, right. 
And it's kind of like they were 

1016
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,280
obviously trading laps, but it 
doesn't look like from the the 

1017
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:09,360
splits and on the timing side 
that there was any pacemakers 

1018
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,520
even for the early part of the 
race. 

1019
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,680
So they the two of them were 
doing all the work from from the

1020
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,400
very start. 
But that is quite different to 

1021
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,680
the way Parker Albie ran kind of
her times where she was pretty 

1022
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,120
much doing that solo the whole 
way. 

1023
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,680
So it's hard to know, especially
without being able to watch it 

1024
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,160
like what feels like the more 
impressive performance, 

1025
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,080
obviously with only a few 
seconds between them over 10. 

1026
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,440
OK. 
But at the same time, as a 

1027
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,280
freshman, Jane doing this is is 
incredible. 

1028
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,360
And yeah, having that 66 
clothes, it does feel like the 

1029
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,200
longer she goes, the better 
she's going to be. 

1030
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,720
And so 10K might be her 
distance. 

1031
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,600
And it's sort of similar fashion
to Parker. 

1032
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:55,040
And yeah, I mean, yeah, it like 
getting so far. 

1033
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,840
Like it's amazing that this time
was quicker than the time at the

1034
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,920
10 last week as well where 
people were shooting American 

1035
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,880
records and all sorts of 
pacemakers. 

1036
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,840
There's everything wave light, 
the works. 

1037
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,600
And obviously I don't think 
there's any of that this week. 

1038
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,320
And she was able to to pull off 
that that kind of performance. 

1039
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:17,360
But yeah, yeah. 
Part of why I was head 

1040
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,760
scratching is because we were 
just talking about this last 

1041
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,520
week where they're like, there's
no real big purpose for a super 

1042
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:28,080
fast 10K time this year. 
But now I guess she'll get some 

1043
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,080
good rankings points just for 
the time of this performance. 

1044
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,960
Although I believe the Stanford 
invitation is not going to be 

1045
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:40,760
one of those higher tier meets 
that'll get you bonus points. 

1046
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,360
I hope it was on the World 
Athletics calendar, because I 

1047
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,920
that's true. 
I I don't I have not checked. 

1048
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,280
I hope it was but and I I assume
she wasn't wearing what Parker 

1049
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,400
Valby wore those like weird 
spikes that with them. 

1050
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,400
Sorry, what weird super shoes 
with spikes that that? 

1051
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,880
Oh, no. 
So you're, you're getting this 

1052
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:04,480
confused because I think when 
Valby ran the collegiate record 

1053
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:09,600
that was set before this, it was
that one was done in spikes. 

1054
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:14,280
And then it when it came to 
running a regional or like ANCA 

1055
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,120
qualifying time or whatever it 
was, that's when it was like the

1056
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,720
for when she had to run at 
regionals, that's when she wore 

1057
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,800
the vapor flies with the spikes 
underneath. 

1058
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:32,560
And so this, this was again, 
like the windows probably going 

1059
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,520
to cover this, this time period 
for 2027. 

1060
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,480
So maybe in the end when I'm 
trying to wonder is like, why'd 

1061
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,040
you have to run? 
So why'd you run so fast? 

1062
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,320
It's like strike while the 
iron's hot, the windows 

1063
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:48,040
presumably open, get one good 
time on the board. 

1064
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:54,440
And now she may run one or two 
more high quality 10 KS before 

1065
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,480
the 2027 US Championships and 
will be in really good shape 

1066
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,720
come, you know, qualifying for 
that rankings wise. 

1067
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:10,520
So you brought up just sort of 
where how this racer was run 

1068
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,760
Again, I think like we don't 
quite know, although from the, 

1069
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,800
you know, just sort of what's 
been reported out there about 

1070
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:25,600
her and who is who is her and 
Pamela Kosguy trading laps that 

1071
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:30,360
maybe that cost a little bit of 
time because if the final mile 

1072
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,760
was so fast. 
So do you give, you know, Jane 

1073
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,880
the assumption she could be in 
the, you know, 3035 ish shape? 

1074
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,680
I don't know, but I'm not. 
Yeah. 

1075
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,800
Do we take 10 seconds off for 
all the lap trading? 

1076
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,960
But it was just run in such a 
different way from what we saw. 

1077
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,760
I guess when Parker broke the 
record she had Callie Hawker 

1078
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:59,280
Thackeray pacing her for the 1st
5K, but then that second 5K was 

1079
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,600
mostly solo. 
That second 5K in Parker's run 

1080
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:09,480
was 1520 when there were such 
few women who had run I think 

1081
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:17,520
1517 ish or faster. 
Her second 5K of that 10K was 

1082
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:23,800
super, super impressive. 
And so and now you have Jane and

1083
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:28,800
Pamela battling it out in a way.
And that's what helped her kind 

1084
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:32,200
of have that fast second-half to
get under the record. 

1085
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:38,360
But it's both very, very 
different kinds of impressive. 

1086
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:44,240
That'll be for kind of being the
one to really be the pioneer or 

1087
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,000
break the record in such, you 
know, dominant fashion. 

1088
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,240
And then Jane at this point, at 
such a young age, already 

1089
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,560
surpassing Parker's times in the
three K5K10K, very, very 

1090
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:02,080
impressive so. 
Park of Albie no longer has any 

1091
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,760
NCAA records and I didn't think 
we would be saying that quite so

1092
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,320
soon. 
I mean she technically has the 

1093
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,800
NCAA outdoor record in the 5K or
something, but obviously the 

1094
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,120
indoor records faster. 
So that doesn't quite kind of I 

1095
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,880
don't, I don't really I don't 
really count that so. 

1096
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,640
I guess we we should have caught
wind of that, and then we would 

1097
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,000
have done the same graphic we 
did for Kenenisa Bakayla where 

1098
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,560
we did Zero World Records 
remaining and now we could have 

1099
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,360
done the same exact thing. 
Yeah. 

1100
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,040
And then again, like this is 
Jane's first ever 10K. 

1101
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,000
That also, I think is really, 
really impressive. 

1102
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,200
Yeah, absolutely. 
And, and I, I really hope, and, 

1103
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,840
and this is the, the, the tricky
part, right, is when are we 

1104
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:51,040
going to see her run like a, you
know, an elite 10K with paces 

1105
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,760
and, and all, of all of the, the
stuff that could go along with 

1106
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,240
that? 
Because obviously this year 

1107
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,680
there's not really any incentive
to do that. 

1108
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:02,920
She's missed the 10 anyway, you 
know, so, so it would be, I 

1109
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,760
mean, I, I suspect we'll have to
wait until next year to see 

1110
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,480
something where she maybe goes 
for a quicker time unless, but 

1111
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:10,760
she just does, she does it by 
herself. 

1112
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:15,520
Yeah, yeah, like, but here's the
what's the point of running of 

1113
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,960
record setting? 
Exactly. 

1114
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,240
That's funny you. 
Are going to get the American 

1115
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,560
record. 
There really isn't a point to 

1116
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:28,120
just exhaust yourself in a super
paced, you know, 10K. 

1117
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,560
Like if the if the Prefontaine 
classic had a 10K where you have

1118
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,080
Agnes and Getich Beatrice to bet
and you throw Jane Heddigren in 

1119
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,800
there, yeah, maybe there's a 
chance that that goes a bit 

1120
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,960
faster. 
But you know, what's the point 

1121
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,720
when ultimately the World 
Championships and Olympics, 

1122
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:49,800
which won't be run in, you know,
28 something or 29 something 

1123
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:58,880
like it's such it's a big bet on
yourself with like the huge toll

1124
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,200
of having to recover from such a
big effort. 

1125
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,760
And that's just sort of where 
the 10K is as an event, right? 

1126
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,800
Like, aside from qualifying 
purposes, like what's the point 

1127
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,040
of unless you are Beatrice to 
bet going after a world wreck or

1128
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,000
Agnes and get it, who's like 
we're we're you know, right now 

1129
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:19,720
marvelling over, you know, Jane 
running 3046, but Agnes and get 

1130
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,080
it ran 2858 this past weekend as
well. 

1131
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,040
That and not yeah, I I wanted to
come up to that. 

1132
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,279
Performance. 
That's the gap. 

1133
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:30,479
That yeah, exactly. 
The gap at the top of the 10K 

1134
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,359
is, is crazy. 
This was the third fastest 

1135
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:37,520
performance in history, 2858 in 
Leo this weekend. 

1136
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:42,439
And she ran, you know, she, she 
ran this like she run, she's run

1137
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,680
2846 on the roads. 
She was the first person to 

1138
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,120
break 29 minutes. 
Obviously, Beatrice has now done

1139
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:53,120
it on the track as well. 
The second person who broke 29 

1140
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:58,920
minutes was Emmanuel and Youngo,
who was subsequently banned for 

1141
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,720
having four or five different 
types of drugs in her system and

1142
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,319
banned for six years. 
So, you know, I, I don't count 

1143
01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,560
that performance. 
So, you know, she's she's run a 

1144
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:13,359
very impressive again, 2858 
really, I count that as the 

1145
01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:15,439
second fastest performance in 
history. 

1146
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:19,960
And yeah, I mean, shout out to 
her Nadia Batticletti in the 

1147
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:24,760
same race around 30 O 8, which 
was one second off the European 

1148
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,319
record set by Megan Keith a few 
couple of months ago or a month 

1149
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:31,359
or so ago. 
So again, she just missed out on

1150
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,279
that, which comes a little bit 
surprised, but I mean, she's 

1151
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,160
just bouncing back from the 3K 
gold at welded doors. 

1152
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,120
So I'll give her a bit of grace 
on on that one. 

1153
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:43,240
Yes. 
So those are the targets for 

1154
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,560
Jane Hennigren. 
Yeah. 

1155
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:48,960
For come 2028, you're going to 
be up against, you know, all of 

1156
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,560
these folks, Agnes and Gettich, 
Nadia Badacletti, Megan Keith. 

1157
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,080
I mean, I'd even throw in there.
Marta Alemeyu had a big weekend,

1158
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,480
the world cross country U20 
champion. 

1159
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:07,440
This was out in she, she won the
5K in Lille in 1415. 

1160
01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:11,520
Jimmy Gressier won the men's 
race with a European record of 

1161
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,480
1251. 
Oh, this is a different race in 

1162
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:17,960
Leo. 
As in as in there was a 5K and 

1163
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,680
A10K as part of the same event. 
So yeah. 

1164
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,400
So yeah, they were kind of part 
yeah. 

1165
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,720
So Jimmy, 2 seconds off the 5K 
road world record set by Barry 

1166
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,040
Aragawi in the same, same, same 
course, same race. 

1167
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,520
That was 1249 a couple of years 
back. 

1168
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:35,920
So yeah, Jimmy was obviously 
targeting that but and just 

1169
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,960
missed out but but still got 
European record and Jan Schrub 

1170
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:44,160
1256 in 3rd place, so also 
faster than the previous 

1171
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,240
European records. 
So he continues his his really 

1172
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,040
good season as well. 
Gracie is the poster boy right 

1173
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:54,960
now for Kip Run and how like 
they are making like hit a lot 

1174
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,640
of attention I think was then 
drawn on his shoes. 

1175
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:01,080
There might be like a new super 
shoe that Kip Run has developed 

1176
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,920
and it comes at like half the 
price or something like that as 

1177
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,560
compared to some of these other 
super shoes out there because I 

1178
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
think Kip Run's owned by 
Decathlon. 

1179
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,600
We don't have that out here all 
that much, but. 

1180
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,280
Well, I don't know, you heard 
about this. 

1181
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:18,000
So in the UK there's been a $40 
super shoe that's been released 

1182
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,960
by one of the budget 
supermarkets. 

1183
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,880
Oh, I did. 
I saw that. 

1184
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
It's. 

1185
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,480
Just crazy. 
I mean, obviously I have no idea

1186
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,600
whether it's any good or not, 
but, but I thought it was quite 

1187
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,480
fun that that they, they've 
obviously got in the game and 

1188
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,400
yeah, who knows, I guess how 
good the foam is. 

1189
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:34,680
But and the, and the, and the 
carbon players. 

1190
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,360
But I, I can't see them putting 
in a column plate for $40. 

1191
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,800
I don't know. 
Maybe they are, but I, I did see

1192
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:45,840
that like Decathlon, decathlon 
and Kip run, probably investing 

1193
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,880
a bit more. 
And also it's it's like they're 

1194
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,280
Dicks. 
It's like France's Dick's 

1195
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:52,880
Sporting Goods. 
I feel like is what how it's 

1196
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:54,840
been described to me. 
Not that Dick's Sporting Goods 

1197
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,080
makes any sense to you because 
you guys don't have that out in 

1198
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:02,600
the, the UK, but that, yeah. 
So I mean, people were making a 

1199
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,600
big deal out of his shoes this 
past weekend. 

1200
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:10,400
That was that was a good race 
out in, in Lille. 

1201
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,480
So I presume he's yeah, he'll, 
he'll open up on some of these 

1202
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:19,720
Chinese diamond leagues or the 
Doha Diamond League. 

1203
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,320
I think there's a decision to be
made in the, I think in the 

1204
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,920
coming days as to whether or not
it's going to go on because I 

1205
01:12:26,440 --> 01:12:30,080
don't know if you knew this pre.
There's a war happening in Iran 

1206
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,120
and like, there's quite a bit of
conflict out in the the Middle 

1207
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,280
East right now. 
And President Donald Trump on 

1208
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,280
Tuesday, you know, threatened 
that there'd be more action on 

1209
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,400
on Tuesday. 
At least that's what I saw from 

1210
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,680
Twitter. 
Although like he cancelled all 

1211
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,080
his appearances I think over the
last two days. 

1212
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,440
Yeah, I mean, it seems 
fascinating. 

1213
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:54,160
Like obviously, you know, from 
from we're looking. 

1214
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,200
Do you want the Doha Diamond? 
Here's the question, Do you want

1215
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,880
the Doha Diamond? 
Link to go on as planned. 

1216
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,920
Well, it's an interesting 
question. 

1217
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:02,800
Like I have, like I, you know, 
over the weekend I saw some 

1218
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,880
friends who'd actually, they 
moved to Dubai a few years ago. 

1219
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,200
They obviously left the country 
when things kicked off. 

1220
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,200
And then they they come. 
By or. 

1221
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,800
Let's not go there again. 
But yes, they were in Dubai. 

1222
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,080
They were in Dubai. 
They, they came to the UK and 

1223
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,520
like a couple of other friends 
are out there and they, they've 

1224
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:25,840
all said like life's pretty much
like normal. 

1225
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,840
And obviously the government now
is kind of keeping information 

1226
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,080
close about anything that has 
happened. 

1227
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,080
But therefore for the vast 
majority of the population, like

1228
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,360
it feels pretty normal. 
Occasionally you might see a 

1229
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,080
missile floating across the sky,
but like that, that, you know, 

1230
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:44,640
there isn't, you know, there 
isn't, hasn't been like 

1231
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,320
significant amounts of damage or
significant amounts of kind of, 

1232
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:48,680
and people are going back to the
offices. 

1233
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,520
They're, they're partying like 
normal, like it's all life is 

1234
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:55,040
normal. 
And I, you know, I do wonder, 

1235
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,640
like flights are obviously going
again as well. 

1236
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,880
So I do wonder whether they 
might try and go ahead. 

1237
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,280
Whether athletes might pull out 
as a result is a separate 

1238
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,520
question. 
If they do go ahead, But I I 

1239
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,240
wouldn't be surprised if they 
do. 

1240
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:11,040
They do go ahead with it. 
Obviously things could change. 

1241
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,520
Yeah, things could change again 
if the war kind of escalates 

1242
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,920
again. 
But but at the moment, if things

1243
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,320
stay as they currently are, then
I wouldn't be surprised if it 

1244
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,040
goes ahead. 
I mean, we've seen the US hold 

1245
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:30,200
back teams for much less in some
South American countries that 

1246
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,880
like, I wonder if there would be
any sort of thing where it's 

1247
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,360
like USATF says, I guess it's 
not they're not controlling. 

1248
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,920
This is very much all 
independent athletes making 

1249
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:41,640
their own sort of decision. 
But they could just also say, 

1250
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:46,080
like, we would, you know, prefer
if no American athletes go to 

1251
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:49,480
this meet for their own safety 
or whatever it is. 

1252
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:52,880
But I did also see that what 
like the enhanced games athletes

1253
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,480
are all also in the UAE right 
now. 

1254
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,760
I think just training because 
that's coming up next month. 

1255
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:04,480
Kind of wild to think about. 
Oh yeah. 

1256
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,400
That's, I think that's 
everything for this week. 

1257
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:11,000
Was there anything else that 
popped on your radar? 

1258
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,840
I, I wanted to give a shout out 
to Ella on The Who now who ran 

1259
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,880
495059400. 
So she's now the indoor, she 

1260
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,440
ended the, the season as the 
indoor world leader with 50.28 

1261
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:29,400
and she's now broken 50 seconds 
and, and, and is the outdoor 

1262
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,360
world leader as well right now. 
So, and that's a pretty 

1263
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,200
impressive start. 
Obviously she sadly didn't have 

1264
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,000
the best day. 
She she kind of ran the 50.28 in

1265
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,840
the heat, NCAA's and sort of ran
her race in the heat instead of 

1266
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,440
the final, unfortunately. 
But she looks like a big talent 

1267
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:49,400
and yeah, looks like she, she 
seems to be getting better with 

1268
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,840
every race. 
So I think someone to keep an 

1269
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:57,560
eye on as well for Nigeria. 
I saw fun result I think that 

1270
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:02,640
popped on my Instagram, which 
was Ethan Shuley fresh off of 

1271
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:06,520
that two O 7 marathon. 
He just jumped on the track and 

1272
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:12,160
ran his first ever 5K on there 
and he ended up running 1357 

1273
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,200
doing a little bit of speed work
since the the marathon. 

1274
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,680
But I think he's getting ready 
for more of a track season where

1275
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,520
we'll see him do the five and 
the 10K. 

1276
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:30,560
But yeah, I think that might be 
everything for this weekend. 

1277
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:34,600
So that does it for this week in
track and field. 

1278
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:39,800
Next week we will be bringing 
you our Boston Marathon preview.

1279
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:43,720
We've got that coming up. 
And then in addition to that 

1280
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,680
there, I guess what's coming up 
this weekend, I think Australian

1281
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,280
Championships are taking place. 
You got the Carlsbad 5K, the 

1282
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,560
Cherry Blossom 10 Mile, which is
also the US Championships, I 

1283
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:59,840
think taking place on Sunday. 
So if you're looking for some 

1284
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:05,080
races to watch, I'm sure those 
will all be somewhere online. 

1285
01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:08,920
And yeah, I think that does it. 
Anything else? 

1286
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,920
Well, congratulations to Noah 
Lyles and Janelle Bromfield. 

1287
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,080
Oh, that's great. 
Yeah. 

1288
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:19,440
And nuptials this weekend and 
yeah, obviously they what what I

1289
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:23,480
thought was cool for the sport 
of track and field and and, and 

1290
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:27,200
stuff is that they got a full 
spread in vogue of their wedding

1291
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,720
pictures and stuff. 
So you know and I and I. 

1292
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,560
And again, it's about raising 
profile. 

1293
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:35,600
It's about kind of getting into 
the other markets and obviously 

1294
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,520
we see celebrities selling their
their sort of wedding, wedding 

1295
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:41,320
photos to, to out to outlets 
like Vogue. 

1296
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,240
And yeah, I mean, it's quite 
cool that that Vogue thought 

1297
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,200
that they were worth kind of 
putting on there. 

1298
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,600
And and that obviously gets gets
play outside of the regular 

1299
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,520
track and field audience. 
So that's pretty cool. 

1300
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,240
Looked like a beautiful wedding.
Absolutely based on all the 

1301
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,560
photos. 
I think the one thing I always 

1302
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:59,360
wonder, and this is this will be
more of a question for the first

1303
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:03,160
time I catch them in the mix 
zone is I want to know who had 

1304
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,480
what was the fastest table at 
his weather. 

1305
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:09,040
Like. 
Who was sitting with who? 

1306
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,680
Like who would make the best 4 
by 4? 

1307
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,640
Because you presume that there's
probably a bunch of, you know, 

1308
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:20,280
his former teammates or training
partners in attendance there. 

1309
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:25,400
Did Lance, Was Lance Brahman a 
groomsmen? 

1310
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,880
I don't know. 
I'm sure Josephus was maybe the 

1311
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,040
best man. 
So. 

1312
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,720
Yeah, I saw Matt Hudson Smith 
amongst the best man. 

1313
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,480
I saw him there. 
The groomsmen. 

1314
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So yeah. 
And obviously we also had 

1315
01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:43,520
Olympic shop put champion Yamisi
Ogun Lei get married this week. 

1316
01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,800
And obviously we and we have 
Anna Hall coming up I think next

1317
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,800
week. 
So yeah, lots of weddings. 

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I guess it's wedding season in 
in in track and field world. 

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And there you go, that was 
Preet, who is our like wedding 

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correspondent for track. 
All right, we will catch you 

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guys next week. 
I love track and field. 

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All right, that's a wrap on 
today's episode. 

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Thanks for listening, for the 
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A big thanks to our producer 
Jasmine Fair and to everyone 

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behind the scenes who helps make
the Sidious Mag podcast happen. 

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