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Check it all out at 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,480 xendurance.com. Code Sidious for 25% off your 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:28,800 first order. It is April 23rd and this week 44 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,760 in track and field you're getting Chris and Preet twice 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:38,280 because we've got a preview the 2026 London Marathon. 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,520 This podcast feed is on absolute fire right now. 47 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,560 We're dropping interviews with tons of folks who ran in the 48 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,680 Boston Marathon. We've got episodes out with 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,880 Zuhair Talby, with Sarah Hall, Amanda Vestry, Ryan Ford come in 50 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:57,640 in just a couple hours. Then we've got Rory Linklater 51 00:02:57,640 --> 00:03:00,040 also dropping soon. I think we just scheduled a 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,560 couple more over the coming days. 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,960 So it's part of the reason why I haven't run in the last couple 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,320 days on and on straw. But I literally just got back 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,640 from like my first, you know, mini workout since then. 56 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:16,000 And I was like, oh man, I'm rusty, but it's been so worth it 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,360 to sit down and chat with folks to recap such a historic day in 58 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,760 Boston. And now it's London's turn, 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,880 which it's going to take over the streets of the British 60 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:33,280 capital on Sunday, April 26th, featuring what is arguably the 61 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,960 greatest field ever assembled. Until they do this again next 62 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,360 year. That's just sort of the way 63 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:43,240 London works with how they adjust, create these deep, deep 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 elite fields. So this this might be the 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,360 deepest in the 45 year history of the race on both sides. 66 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:55,040 And so pre you got to be part of media day today. 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,800 So I bet we'll be sprinkling in some of the insights that you 68 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,560 glean from that all throughout this podcast. 69 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,800 So what are the vibes like right now in London? 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Yeah. Well, the first thing is the 71 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,200 weather, because obviously last year was a really turned out for 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,640 a really hot day. It was not, you know, and and 73 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,519 obviously some of the sort of the sort of top end, there were 74 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:20,040 a few certainly in in terms of the Brits and stuff like that 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,080 really struggled with the heat and didn't run as well as as 76 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,360 they were hoping to. And and today the weather 77 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,760 unfortunately looked a little similar. 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:32,520 It was it was warm and there was not cloud in the sky and I was 79 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,240 there. I arrived at about the same time 80 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,240 that the elites will be about halfway was was when I arrived 81 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,760 in in in by the finish line where the media zone is. 82 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,080 And yeah, it was. If you're in the sun, it was 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:50,640 pretty warm. However, Sunday, it looks like 84 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,120 there's going to be some cloud cover. 85 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:57,840 It's expected to about 5152 at the start, going up to somewhere 86 00:04:57,840 --> 00:05:02,960 between 60 and 65 by the finish. Fahrenheit, that is Fahrenheit. 87 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,200 So it's like 11-12 to like somewhere between 16 and 18° by 88 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,840 the finish if you're, if you're a Celsius man like myself. 89 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,480 But yeah, it it so it isn't it doesn't. 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,120 The forecast currently isn't as warm as last year. 91 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,400 There's a little bit of wind as well, like gusts and A and a 92 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,440 light tail wind on some parts of the course. 93 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,200 So that should hopefully also keep things cool. 94 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,280 So as long as we get get the clouds, I think it won't be. 95 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:30,800 It won't be as bad as as last year. 96 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,480 I mean, the mass race might get a little toastier as the day 97 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,920 goes on, but but it certainly isn't hopefully as as hot as 98 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,640 last year. Oh, how will that affect Cynthia 99 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,160 Rivo's sub 315 bid? Wow. 100 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,080 We we look forward to that. I think there was a, she was 101 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,320 doing a podcast recording tomorrow afternoon. 102 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,760 She's doing well as well. So yeah, unfortunately I can't 103 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,120 get along, but. But I'll look forward to hearing 104 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,040 what she says. All right, let's go ladies 105 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,080 first, because this one's obviously, I think probably the 106 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:06,600 richest of the two fields. It did have even deeper talent, 107 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,880 but there were a couple withdrawals. 108 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,880 So we'll start with when this race was announced a couple 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,520 months back, you know, this included take us to Safa, 110 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,560 Joycelyn Zip Koskai, Helen Oberry, Sifanosan Paris Zipjeer 111 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,400 chair. And those last two have 112 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,440 withdrawn due to injury, which is which kind of reshuffles, you 113 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,000 know, the women's race. But what remains is still 114 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,600 really, really remarkable. Take us to Safa, as someone who 115 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,800 has won this race in the past, the defending champion, the 116 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:42,480 fastest woman in the field. She has that 21153 personal 117 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,560 best, which was the world record set in 20 Berlin 2023. 118 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,440 Didn't, I guess, lasted just over a year until it was broken 119 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,200 by Ruth Chapin Gettich. At last year's race. 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:01,040 She broke the women's only marathon record. 121 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:07,360 Yeah, world record with her. Her victory in the last six of 122 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,600 her marathon, she's finished in the top 2, so that's a good sign 123 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,400 of things. A lot of eyes will probably be 124 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,400 on her. Last summer, she opted to her 125 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,560 last fall, she opted to go to the World Championships in Tokyo 126 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:25,200 instead of running a major like Berlin, Chicago or New York. 127 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,200 And she came away with a silver medal. 128 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,240 So she's probably like the number one seed in this whole 129 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,000 entire field. Joyce Lynch of Koskai right 130 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,320 after her someone else who has won this race in the past, 131 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:43,040 runner up last year went to Valencia in December and you 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,920 know, managed to snag the world lead with just a couple the the 133 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,920 weeks to go until the end of 2025. 134 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,840 So she was the fastest marathoner of last year with 135 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,680 that 214 flat. She beat Jeff Churcher in the 136 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,600 process. So the cool part to all of this 137 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,760 is just sort of that, you know, if you're going by who beat, 138 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,880 who's beaten who, like that is sort of like where you start to 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 play the transitive property because certain people have beat 140 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,640 certain people at different stages and now they're all sort 141 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,920 of coming together. And then the third head of the 142 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,200 big three that remain, I think is obviously Helen O'berry. 143 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:22,320 She opted to pass on Boston. This will be her London debut. 144 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,440 She's won Boston twice, New York twice. 145 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,120 And you know, I think I said this a little bit when we were 146 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,000 doing our watch along on Sunday sometimes and even in our post 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,240 race recap from Boston, it's that athletes sometimes tend to 148 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,520 get trapped into that sort of Boston, NY cycle, especially 149 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:46,840 like as a reigning champion. And so she probably passed on a 150 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,440 good payday in Boston, maybe managed to negotiate for a 151 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,680 little bit more money in London. I think the thing with London is 152 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,760 that there are, I think the appearance fees might be less. 153 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,400 This is someone I think like Kyle might know more of the 154 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,320 actual sort of numbers behind the scenes, but the appearance 155 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,280 fees are smaller because the bonuses you can collect along 156 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,680 the way are much bigger. London's got, I don't know, 157 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:14,720 Preet, if you want to try and pull up sort of like all the 158 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,000 different time bonuses that they have. 159 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,960 There's, it's very lucrative to run fast there. 160 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,720 And so we've been hearing it for so many years from Dathan 161 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Risenheim that he firmly believes that Helen is someone 162 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,080 who can run and is capable of 211 when tickets are safe. 163 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,200 I ran that time two years ago. Yes, it did sort of, like, bend 164 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,960 our minds a little bit, but it did sort of start to open up 165 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,440 that conversation of like, yeah, I think a woman could get closer 166 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:50,040 to two. 11210 Chefengetic obviously crazy example, but we 167 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,120 later learned that she tested positive for banned substance. 168 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,160 And so regardless, these will be the big three that are probably 169 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,600 chasing a safe as women's only marathon world record. 170 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,480 So pre I'm assuming you found sort of the bonus structure. 171 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,280 Yes, yeah, yeah. So obviously the the prize money 172 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,240 actually is not that high. So the prize money is only sort 173 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,520 of for first place is only $55,000. 174 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:20,120 However, if you run sub 202 as a man, it's $150,000. 175 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,520 If you run sub 215 as a woman, you get $150,000. 176 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:31,120 If you run sub 21530, it's $100,000 and if you run sub 216, 177 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,760 it's $75,000. So there's some pretty big and, 178 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,480 and it sounds like it's for any runner recording sub that time. 179 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,880 So it's not cumulative, but it means like if multiple people go 180 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,320 sub 202, they'll be paying out multiple lots of of that 181 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,200 $150,000 or multiple runners go sub 215. 182 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Now what we found out from from all the conversations I spoke to 183 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,640 all three of those women. We've got interviews up on the 184 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:03,680 on the Citys, my YouTube channel and essentially last year the 185 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,440 race went out the first half in 6640. 186 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,680 I understand the pace. The pace currently is 6730. 187 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,600 And the reason for that was last year they went out 6640, they 188 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,720 came back in 69 point. So it was and, and London is 189 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,160 slightly faster in the first half. 190 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,520 It's slightly downhill that first half of London, so there's 191 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:32,120 a reason why you often expect a a slightly positive split. 192 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:38,200 However, what was interesting was that Tigis de Seffa said. 193 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,280 Look, I am in better shape than I was last year. 194 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,680 Oh boy. I think that, you know, and, and 195 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:49,440 I asked specifically asked this question like, you know, do you 196 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,680 think you could run better if you go out a little bit slower? 197 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:56,680 And she was like, actually, no, I'm, I think that I'm fitter 198 00:11:56,680 --> 00:12:01,040 than I was last year. I can take the pace once because 199 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,840 obviously the pace did drop once the pace has dropped out at 200 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:08,360 about halfway. And she says, I think I'm fit 201 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,040 enough to then take that pace whenever the pace is drop out 202 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,160 and keep going at that 6640, like take continue with that 203 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,280 pace after that. So she sounds like she's, she's 204 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,640 definitely gunning for it. I mean, it was very clear that 205 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,520 they're all gunning for the rather sorry, Jocelyn and and 206 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Tigis are very kind of clear that, you know, sub 2215 is kind 207 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:33,360 of the goal because that's where the pace is kind of going and, 208 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,880 and and so on. I think the other part of that 209 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,200 is that Paula Radcliffe's course record, which is not the women 210 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,040 only world record because of that point in time. 211 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:48,840 It wasn't a women only race for Paula is 2/15/25 so that has 212 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,280 obviously stood since 2003. Is there any money for that? 213 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,200 It doesn't say anything specifically here, but obviously 214 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,520 if you run sub 21530, you get the 100,000. 215 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,880 So I guess that's the way. Oh, sorry, actually hang on, 216 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,320 here we are. No, there is, yes. 217 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:10,720 So first, if you get first place and the women's course record, 218 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,800 you get another $25,000. But that isn't, that actually is 219 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,800 21550 they're calling the course record and not the two 1525 by 220 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,800 Paula Radcliffe. Weirdly, I think again, because 221 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:28,040 of the women's only thing that they probably aren't, you know, 222 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,520 I suppose in principle when this is sad, they're not expecting 223 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,920 anyone to break 21525. But but there you are. 224 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,360 That is certainly something that's on the cards. 225 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,880 But yeah. And Jocelyn Shakovsky, 226 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,920 obviously, she has been to London 4 times, she's won it 227 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,560 once, she's not finished off the podium, she knows what she's 228 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:51,960 doing in London and she's obviously last 2025 fastest 229 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,440 woman with her 214. I then had a really interesting 230 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,680 chat with Helen Abiri who kind of said, look, I'm going to go 231 00:14:00,680 --> 00:14:02,840 out, I'm going to see how it goes, right? 232 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,240 I feel fair. I've done some extra speed work 233 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,400 in this build, haven't changed my training too much. 234 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,440 But she stayed in in Colorado for the entire build. 235 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,400 So and, and I think I also had a nice chat with with Laura 236 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,440 Freight, who's the OAC Rhodes coach supporting Dave Ritzenheim 237 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,360 there. And she was saying, look, you 238 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,960 know, it's really good to have her in Colorado for the whole 239 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,880 build because we're able to kind of be there and, and actually 240 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,760 like kind of make sure that she's maxing out on all the 241 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,600 recovery and the physio and all of that stuff, along with 242 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,560 obviously being able to see her workouts. 243 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,920 And on top of that, obviously Boulder had quite a mild winter. 244 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,920 So they didn't have the issues of, you know, having to navigate 245 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:46,720 the sort of winter weather as well. 246 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,640 And so they were able to kind of keep the build pretty, pretty 247 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,800 consistent. So it sounds like things have 248 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,080 gone well. And it sounds like they're 249 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,920 confident enough to say, look, we'll just sit in, Helen said 250 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:01,400 very clearly. Look, you know, I've never run a 251 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,720 race like this before. I'm going to sit in there just 252 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,800 sitting behind them and wait and then see what I can do, see how 253 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,040 I'm feeling when, when it, you know, when it gets to that 254 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,400 whatever 3035 K points. So, yeah, looks like, you know, 255 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:19,200 everyone's expecting those 3 to be in that pace group and, and 256 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,040 all hanging together for as long as possible. 257 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,800 And yeah, hopefully we we do get to see something pretty special. 258 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,800 Yeah, I'm trying to wonder like who's lying is That's the thing 259 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,360 about these pre race press conferences is like everyone 260 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:42,160 talks a big talk and then come race say they just throw all of 261 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,200 that talk out the window and just played a bit more cautious 262 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,640 but. There will be male. 263 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,160 Pacemakers right For Oh, no, no. No, no, London does not have 264 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,000 male pacemakers. So London, the women start 1st 265 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,560 and so that will be at nine O 5 I think, which I think is 2 O 266 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,920 5:00 PM Eastern Time and then the the men start 2020 minutes 267 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,640 or so later so. Do you prefer that for the 268 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,800 broadcast because like it makes it so much more challenging? 269 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,360 I think sometimes I like the way Boston does it. 270 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:19,040 I mean, yes, these broadcasts have to kind of figure out a way 271 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,880 to give somewhat equal treatment and cram in interviews and all 272 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,560 that kind of stuff. So like the actual sort of 273 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,320 production calls from, you know, a director or guys in the truck 274 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,920 like that, you know, it's a separate conversation as to what 275 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,920 needs work. But with Boston, the men going 276 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,760 10 minutes before the women, it basically creates a scenario 277 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,720 where you're able to focus on the men's race and then by the 278 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,880 time they finish 30 minutes later, sort of when the top 279 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,400 women start to come in. And so you're able to, once the 280 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:57,240 men finish, use a lot of that time again, if the directors and 281 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 producers know exactly what they're doing to be able to 282 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,800 watch sort of that second-half where Sharon's, you know, 283 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,520 throwing down. I'm trying to remember if like 284 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,400 the inverse leads to anything. So I think the issue is that 285 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,960 then you have to delay the mass stop. 286 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,599 So what they do is they start the elite men with the mass 287 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:22,079 start at at London, whilst obviously in Boston, they then 288 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:25,040 hold the mass start for a little while to allow the elite women 289 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,000 to get away. So that it is a women's only 290 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,080 race. And it isn't, you know, subsumed 291 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,560 with them, with them, with the masses and sort of the the sort 292 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,880 of top sub elite men kind of going past them or, or running 293 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,000 with them. So I think that is that's 294 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,240 probably the reason or that's one of the reasons why we were 295 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,360 actually had a lot of speculation in the press room 296 00:17:44,360 --> 00:17:47,440 today about obviously there's still talk of this two day 297 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,120 marathon in 2027 and whether they would split the. 298 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:54,040 We didn't get any answers on it, but did you see the? 299 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:59,160 Applications going to open up and if the marathon gets 300 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:03,440 approval from the city, then it's going to be like a further 301 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,200 conversation as to I think you'll have the option or 302 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,640 there'll be something that. Yeah. 303 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,840 So they said the ballot basically if you enter the 304 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,480 ballot, you'll be entered in the into the ballot for both days. 305 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,080 It's not like you know and that obviously it double S your 306 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,960 chances if there's double number of people obviously able to race 307 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,200 you. Should enter the ballot. 308 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,560 I need to run to 5K first before I try and sign up for. 309 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,200 About, you know, what I was thinking about that the other 310 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,040 day and I know we were saying, you know, we're going to have 311 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Paul running the 5K in New York. And I was like thinking about 312 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,520 it. I was like, no one in our group 313 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,000 probably has more chances to run than pre and kind of like the 314 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,680 weekly park run. So I think we should set a goal 315 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:50,080 that like by September you get out for a park run. 316 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,960 Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. That is that would definitely be 317 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,440 be be great. So yeah. 318 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,040 Let's do it. Let's commit to it. 319 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,440 Hopefully World Ultimate Championships I'll actually be 320 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,400 joining on the CS Mad group run right? 321 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,120 There we go, but let's get the park run before that. 322 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,000 Let's see what we can do. I'm going to be traveling to a 323 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,080 lot of diamond leagues, so we'll. 324 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,200 See, no better way to explore a city than to go for a jog, even 325 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,160 if it's a mile or two. Yeah, let's see what we can do. 326 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Absolutely. You've got enough people on our 327 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,520 team to who can and coach you to your first park run 5K. 328 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,080 So this is I'm, I'm committed to making this happen folks. 329 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,280 Preet will be running a park run 5K by September. 330 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,080 Heard it here first. Make the graphic. 331 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,840 I don't. Think you want a graphic for 332 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,080 that, but yeah and go back to this women's field look, there's 333 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,440 only 14 women in the field, right There's been obviously 334 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,640 there's a couple of top end dropouts there's a couple of 335 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,960 other dropouts as well from some of the Brits and stuff. 336 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,720 So, you know, there are only 14 women and, and I think one of 337 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,040 the other things that's worth noting about this I, this is a 338 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,720 bit that I, I'm not a huge fan of with London because I think 339 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:03,280 AH, Mccolgan last year as. You know, lead Brett and she was 340 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:08,120 like, I had to run the whole thing by myself because, you 341 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:11,960 know, the I, I dropped off the the whatever pace group I was in 342 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,840 and you know, then there was literally no one who was running 343 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,640 at my pace, right? So and there wasn't going to be 344 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,120 anyone because there were only 17 women in the film last year. 345 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:23,320 Similarly, there wasn't anyone catching her and there wasn't 346 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,160 anyone she could catch from that sort of front group of five or 347 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,920 six as well. So, you know, it's kind of a bit 348 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,760 of a weird and also it means, you know, you could probably get 349 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,920 top 10 by default if like 3 or 4 people have a bad day. 350 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:42,120 It kind of, it doesn't, you know, and it feels like top ten 351 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,360 at a major should kind of mean something as well. 352 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:48,520 So I kind of feel like have 2530 women in the field, right? 353 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,440 Because I think that then I think it improves the chances of 354 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,240 the Brits running well if they have other people to run within 355 00:20:54,240 --> 00:21:00,280 that 2:20 to 2:30 range. And so, you know, everyone kind 356 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,640 of can have a better day. And I'm, I'm not entirely sure 357 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,640 what the reason is for, you know, you don't, I'm sure 358 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,360 there'll be people who don't need an appearance fee to turn 359 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:10,360 up if they get a spot on the London elite start line really. 360 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:13,560 So I don't know I'd, I'd, I'd like to see this field a little 361 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,480 bit bigger. And if we look further down the 362 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,120 field. So, So what was interesting is 363 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Ailish said actually initially there was going to be a 214 pace 364 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,880 group and a 223 pace group and nothing in between. 365 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,720 Yeah, that's what I'm looking at right now. 366 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:34,560 It's just sort of the big three are just such heavy favourites 367 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,960 to be the podium, right? Like the podium. 368 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:44,480 I would give it to be odds of 66% to be if they to be take us 369 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,720 to safe a Joycelyn, Jeff Kosgai and Helen O'berry. 370 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,840 Some combination of that will be the podium. 371 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:54,920 Because even if they falter like you're Helen O'brier, the 217 PB 372 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,040 and you're going to go out in 215 personal best. 373 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,960 Like you know, at 215 pace, like you could pull the Saifan Hassan 374 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,800 and take a little walk break and still probably finish in 3rd 375 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:10,080 place because I don't see anyone but those 3 going with that 376 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,360 pace. So the next fastest personal 377 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:17,240 best on paper is Digitu Azimirwa from Ethiopia who's run 21758, 378 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,000 but that's an old 217 from London 2021. 379 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Last year I think she ran 3 marathons and none of them were 380 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,520 under 220. So then from there, Yunus 381 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,320 Chumba, 220 personal best, but that's a personal best from 382 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,440 2022. Hasn't run faster than I'm 383 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:45,880 looking at it now, 23221. She's last year in Nagoya. 384 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,680 She was third place in Honolulu, 16th place at the World 385 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,160 Championships. And then after that, Catherine 386 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Amarango Aman goal. Let me do a quick look on her. 387 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,120 Isn't she the one who got denied? 388 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,400 She's one of the ones who got denied for their nationality 389 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,360 change, I think. Yep Yep. 390 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:09,080 So she's on that list of like wanted to be Turkey but didn't 391 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:14,440 get didn't get selected. She's got APB of 220 from Abu 392 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,680 Dhabi 2024 last year. Rant 2221. 393 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,880 So no real threats behind those big three to like. 394 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,640 There isn't any intriguing debut either on the women's side. 395 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,720 No, so, so as I say, like I think it is those those are the 396 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,360 point of people who are going to be going in that 218 pace group 397 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,920 now which has now been added in apparently. 398 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:46,280 So there's a 218 kind of pace group and I think age Mccole 399 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,280 gonna said, look, if she's feeling good, she might go with 400 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,000 that Really Well, I think she well, she wants to break 220, 401 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000 right? She she thinks 218 is probably a 402 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,520 little spicy, but she's got a choice of going for 218 or two, 403 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,600 whatever the 223 pace group, right? 404 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,560 2/20 it could be 223, it could be two. 405 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,640 Otherwise you're running solo again. 406 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,400 Yeah, or running solo, right. So. 407 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,400 So I think she's kind of going to see how she feels on the day. 408 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,160 What she said was her build was abbreviated because she was 409 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,520 focused on doing the speed work, which had her running that 410 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:21,560 30-O810K earlier on. And she ran a 67 minute half, 411 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,840 which was a little bit slower than she wanted, but but 412 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,880 definitely the the conditions weren't great. 413 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:30,320 So I think she was saying, look, you know, I needed to do speed 414 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,440 work because I haven't been able to do that kind of speed work 415 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,240 since 2023 before she had the knee surgery. 416 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,840 So she's kind of said, look, you know, I did that, but obviously 417 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,200 that focus then meant that my actual marathon build, which she 418 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,040 went to Colorado for a few weeks, was a lot shorter post 419 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,880 that half marathon that she did in Japan. 420 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,000 So the actual marathon build has been a little shorter. 421 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,880 So she's not really sure what kind of shape she's in, but she 422 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,480 wanted to get that speed back because it it bodes well for 423 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,080 the, IT helps her for the future to actually have that speed. 424 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,600 Would any of these other Brits, Rose Harvey or Jess Warner Judd 425 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,280 go with the 218 Group? No, no. 426 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,600 So Rose Harvey I think as well, like I think health wise she's 427 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,960 kind of had some ups and downs. So I think that's where like 428 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,480 she'll be in that two 23224 kind of range I think is what we're 429 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,360 expecting. Like she might try and push on 430 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,560 for 222 or something. Just really. 431 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:36,440 Patter 9 is like her PB is 227. She's run that twice, has raced 432 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,240 once I think since the World Championships. 433 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,640 Like a low key 10K was supposed to do I think NYC half and then 434 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,240 withdrew to 23 group. Yeah. 435 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,880 So I think that's the plan. I mean, like she was, she was a 436 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,320 little bit coy about exactly what she's going to do, but but 437 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,960 at the same time, I, I, I think that like she wants to PB And so 438 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,880 I, I would imagine that's what she'll go out with and then 439 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,600 obviously see, see what she can hang on for after that. 440 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200 And she's kind of been very open about, look, she's good at 441 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,000 running solo. She's quite happy running solo, 442 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,560 so you know, it's what she did in Tokyo very successfully. 443 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,600 So I think she she thinks she can PB and I I wouldn't be 444 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,880 surprised if if we see her in that sort of two 24223 kind of 445 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,080 range as well. Just want a judge obviously 446 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:30,600 incredible story for her. Like great New York, yes, great 447 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,640 New York inside of the place. 2 seconds behind Saffan Hassan. 448 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040 She literally overtook Saffan Hassan and then Hassan just had 449 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,400 a little Sprint at the end and got up by two seconds. 450 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,080 But, you know, that was kind of, she's someone who obviously has 451 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,680 had an epilepsy diagnosis where she kind of collapsed on the 452 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,520 track at the European Championships in 2024 and she 453 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,320 had a really rough time of it. She kind of has been very open 454 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,880 about fact she hit rock bottom. 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We've made it the runner's soda. 546 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,120 It is kind of crazy now that I'm looking at this, how just much 547 00:31:55,120 --> 00:32:00,120 better Boston is as a race. Yeah, as in like the race as a 548 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,320 whole, I think that is. This is a time trial like for 549 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,960 the top three, it's well, the top 3 is going to be a race more 550 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,680 of a battle of attrition who can actually like hold on and then 551 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,040 out kick whoever is left and survives off of that. 552 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,720 But then even just sort of the battle for top Brit isn't that 553 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240 much interesting either, because if it's Eilish going out with 554 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,880 the 218 group and then has a huge gap, like it's 555 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,440 predetermined, it's going to be her if she just finishes this 556 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:37,240 race. Whereas in Boston, like you'd 557 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,480 you can get to 20 miles and you still got some wild card players 558 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:50,080 in the mix. And yeah, it I'm just, yeah, it 559 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920 when you compare the two, I'm just kind of now that I'm seeing 560 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,000 just sort of what these how these fields ended up shaking 561 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,520 out. Like you do wish that Stefan 562 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Asan and Perestrov Churcher were here because then that puts five 563 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,480 in the top in the top group and there's only three podium 564 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,120 places. But now we're left with three. 565 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,440 And yeah, I mean, like, I find it really hard to envision a 566 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,240 podium that's not those, barring any sort of like injury, 567 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,720 cramping, whatever it might be. So yeah, it'll still be super 568 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,280 exciting, I think to see just sort of what the clock ends up 569 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,080 saying at the very end. It's just the actual race itself 570 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,320 isn't as big of a there isn't as big of a battle. 571 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,680 Yeah, Yeah, it is a bit true. And that's what I think as I say 572 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,000 about the small field, it just, it just does kind of leave you 573 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,640 with that that little bit of a challenge there that that you 574 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,640 know, you, you do have that. That issue now Helen's I think 575 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,200 another person who just makes this thing just so much more 576 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,040 interesting and focusing solely on her is great because she's 577 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,760 never run with pacemakers, never run on a flat course that 2/17 578 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,280 that she ran was, you know, on the point to point Boston course 579 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,040 with hills for New York's. Like that's just sort of what 580 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,840 she's been used to Olympic, you know, bronze medal. 581 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:14,800 Yeah, I, I think like, I would love to see a 214 out of her and 582 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,040 or even faster. But the conversation as to who's 583 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,199 the number one women's marathoner because I guess like, 584 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520 you know, kind of coming off of the power rankings that we put 585 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,560 out, it's good. It's fun and to just kind of 586 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,960 generate chatter and we'll probably maybe try and do that 587 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,800 after this weekend as to who are the best marathoners in the 588 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,440 world. And on the women's side with, 589 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,480 you know, Stefan Asan is the Olympic champion, but she won 590 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,600 Sydney last year and then didn't have a good New York. 591 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,320 Then you have parish of cheer cheers, the reigning world 592 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120 champion. But she, you know, didn't make 593 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,840 it to the start line here taking as a Safa honestly has a really 594 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,960 strong conversation because again, like she either wins or 595 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,280 she finishes second. Helen also super compelling if 596 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,760 she's able to win London now that's, you know, three major 597 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,880 victories plus an Olympic medal in her marathoning career. 598 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,920 So I think that there's there's there's some stakes here in 599 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,640 terms of just sort of like the big bigger picture of like, 600 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,240 yeah, all right, these are all Titans, but who is the best of 601 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:30,360 the best? Chip Kosgai couldn't even sneak 602 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,200 in there because, you know, she managed. 603 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,240 We'll we'll find out again. What's Valencia worth in, in in 604 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:37,560 London? Calvin Kipto has kind of proven 605 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,240 that, you know, they do translate. 606 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,240 Sebastian Saway has has proven that it's translated. 607 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,920 So yeah. So I'm, I'm going to be focused, 608 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,680 I think mostly on, on Helen in, in this one. 609 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,920 Yeah, absolutely. Should we shift over to the 610 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,280 men's side now? Yeah, let's do that. 611 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,360 This one is more of a actual sort of thrilling race because 612 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,440 you've got so many talented guys. 613 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,360 When you look at this, I guess I'm going to count 123455 guys 614 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:22,240 sub 204-1238 guys sub two O 5. You got the intriguing debut of 615 00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:27,440 Yomi Kedjalcha. So let's start with just sort of 616 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,920 the main event. All right? 617 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,920 If this is a boxing poster, you're putting Sebastian Salvi 618 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,600 versus Jacob Pepolimo, as you know, as the two faces on there. 619 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,160 And we'll get to other guys who could disrupt things a little 620 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,360 bit. Last year's race really wasn't 621 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,240 too much of A contest when Sebastian Salvi dropped that 416 622 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,120 at mile 20 and then ended up winning by over a minute. 623 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,640 But the key thing to remember about that is that that was 624 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,440 Jacob Kiplimo's marathon debut. Since then, both of these guys 625 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:05,160 have levelled up. Saw Wei won Berlin IN2O2 in what 626 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,120 was a really hot day and the buzz leading into that race is 627 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:13,080 that it had it not been hot, the dude was getting drug tested 20 628 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,640 times in the lead up because there was some confidence that 629 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,280 he could break Calvin Kiptom's two hours and 35 a Second World 630 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,600 record and he didn't want to leave any sort of doubt to that. 631 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,440 Then you have Jacob Kiplimo who you know, finished second in 632 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:33,760 London and then goes and wins Chicago in two O 223, basically 633 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,320 coasting within that last 5K. Some people could watch it and 634 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,120 read and be like, oh, he was tired. 635 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,560 I don't know. I think it was just sort of like 636 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,600 once John career dropped off, he just kind of slammed on the 637 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,560 brakes, took in the victory and crossed the finish line. 638 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,560 And after that he goes and wins his third straight world cross 639 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,600 country title, then wins the breaks the half marathon world 640 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,000 record again. Well, not APB because the first, 641 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,400 the first time, the last time he did it, he was too close to a 642 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,840 car. This time he ends up just 643 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,000 running just running 5720 in Lisbon. 644 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:13,080 So the gap between these two guys is probably much closer 645 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,040 than results indicate. But if we're focusing on just 646 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,200 these two pre, do you particularly give the edge to 647 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:26,200 one over the other right now? I, I don't know, because I think 648 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,560 Kaplimo still, we're still finding Kaplimo ceiling. 649 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,800 I think that's the thing, right? He is slightly newer to this. 650 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,680 It's taken him maybe you know, his first go in London last 651 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,520 year. He obviously, you know, he, he 652 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,520 kind of slight, I don't know whether it's a tactical error or 653 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,120 he just kind of didn't have the confidence to go with, with the 654 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,880 move and you know that, that he he lost that one. 655 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,720 But then obviously his, his, his, his performance then in in 656 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,320 the fall in Chicago was, was really impressive. 657 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:04,080 And yeah, it's hard to know like how that that stacks up right as 658 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,160 to whether while saw way obviously, you know, did you 659 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,560 know he's he's just hit it out the park every time he's run a 660 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,400 marathon, you know, starting with the Valencia 2/02/05 at the 661 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,480 back end of 2024 and then and then in Berlin and and London 662 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,800 last year. So yeah, it's, it's going to be 663 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,160 an intriguing battle and I, yeah, I can't pick, pick them 664 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,680 obviously that the men's press conferences tomorrow. 665 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:36,920 So I haven't spoken to them yet. What I will say, the rumour is 666 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,440 I, because I thought they would go out at 61, you know, 61 667 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960 minutes or something. The rumour is they're going out 668 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,520 at 6015 to 6030. So world record pace basically. 669 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,000 Wow. That is the rumour, which, yeah, 670 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:53,800 but that it is, it is what it is. 671 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,600 I don't know whether that's a good idea, but but hey ho, I 672 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,000 suspect that's what what they're going to do. 673 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,680 I think there's going to be some conversations obviously 674 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,720 happening over the next day or so to, to finalise the exact 675 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,880 kind of pace. But what I understand, but but 676 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,680 that's kind of the the rough pace that is currently on the 677 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,080 cards so. It is not conservative, which 678 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:16,800 obviously makes it more interesting because someone 679 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,320 could blow up right, and we don't we know that. 680 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,960 Well, see if they go out in 6161 thirty, you know that everyone 681 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,200 will be with it and and then obviously it will be possibly a 682 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,600 better race, but the but the going out that quick does 683 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,160 introduce a bit more chance of people blowing up. 684 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,320 Maybe you could look this up while we're but what's the 685 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,640 farthest Saway has made it? I guess it like in Berlin last 686 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,080 year. I presume on marathon world 687 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:55,200 record pace because Kiplimo made it through I believe 30K at 688 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,320 world record pace before starting to slip. 689 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,480 If he's figured out that final 10K, then Sunday could be the 690 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,880 day that he turns the tables on Sebastian Saway. 691 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,240 But Saway is always already, you know, he's got experience having 692 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:15,400 one on this course. So does Kiplymo having run and 693 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,800 finish. Just, you know, not that far 694 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,080 behind last year. We've never seen 2 sub 2O2 695 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,640 performances in one race, right? I. 696 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,880 Don't think we have. We haven't seen other than 697 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,760 obviously what we saw in Boston on Monday. 698 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:36,560 We haven't actually seen a sub 2O2 performance since December 699 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,480 of 2023, which is, you know, it's been a while because that 700 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,520 was CC Lemma in Valencia and before that we had Kipton's 701 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,120 world record in Chicago and the. Course record here is 2O125 702 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,200 right from Kipton's to injury. Correct, yes. 703 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,520 But yeah, I, I think on the table, yeah, I think that's 704 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,840 definitely, that's what they were talking about today. 705 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,720 I think in the kind of thing is the course record is what's 706 00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,640 being targeted. I mean, London, as I say, is 707 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,240 slightly down her first first half. 708 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:13,520 So it does typically lend itself to a positive split. 709 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,160 Obviously Kipton rewrote the storyline on that, but but 710 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,400 that's Calvin Kipton and and I'm not sure anyone else who's kind 711 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:27,800 of running like him. But yeah, if they go out at 712 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,040 world record pace, I mean I say saw in Berlin was on world 713 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,520 record pace up until roughly 30K. 714 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:40,720 OK, so that's it's it's even. Yeah, they both run through 30K 715 00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:43,680 at world record pace. So now let's pay attention to 716 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,880 what happens between 30 and 35 K, and then especially 35 to 717 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,720 40K. Yeah. 718 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,320 And then I guess we've got, we've got a couple of spoilers 719 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,200 potentially. Yeah, let's yeah. 720 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:03,720 Let's go with the first one I want to present is, I mean, 721 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,480 Joshua chapter guy, right? Double Olympic gold medalist. 722 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,080 So. Oh wait, Tamara Tola is running 723 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:11,600 right? Yeah. 724 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,600 So first is Tamara Tola. So in terms of the people, 725 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160 because I think there's also again from what what I heard 726 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,680 today, there's people who are going to go with that front 727 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,120 group and there's people who are not going to go with that front 728 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,360 group. Chapter Guy and Camara are among 729 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,040 those who are not going to go with that front group. 730 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,200 So I'm not expecting them to be in this conversation. 731 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,400 So if we're talking about the people, so we can come on to 732 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,760 them in a minute, I think the people who are obviously going 733 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,560 to be there. Amos Caputo and Tamrazola 734 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:46,000 Olympic champion and then Yomov Cajolcha is the other one who's 735 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,520 obviously Yep, debut the. Highly anticipated debut of 736 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,120 Yomov Cajolcha. So I guess like talking about 737 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,680 Tamrazola, didn't he just win? He won the Doha Marathon earlier 738 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,840 this year. Yes, in in hot conditions. 739 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:05,880 And so if he's if he's winning so early on and fit at that 740 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,880 point, I'm sure hope hopefully the rest of his training went 741 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,760 well from there. So he's a threat. 742 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,520 Amos Kipruto is a two O 313 guy. Is Animol Petros going to go 743 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,200 with that front group or no? No to a four O 3 guy. 744 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,840 No, he won't. So I think the other guy who 745 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,600 might is one of the other debutantes who's Isaiah Kipkoech 746 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:35,800 Lasoy of Kenya, who is A582 marathoner. 747 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,160 Where's? He goes get brew it. 58 one 748 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,320 yeah. Oh yeah, he was on this list, 749 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,240 wasn't he? But he is no longer on this 750 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:46,840 list, so yes, no, he goes. He must have scratched, but 751 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,120 that's looking. Forward to that because with he 752 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:54,120 goes, it's either it's a banger or he flew too close to the sun 753 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,960 and and faded. So yeah, that's a bummer. 754 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,000 Yeah, that is a bummer. Yeah, they they didn't obviously 755 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,680 announce it, but he is not on the current elite men's start 756 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,760 list on the The Lone Marathon website. 757 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,440 So I assume he has scratched but I will go for that tomorrow. 758 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,400 Kajalcha is maybe one of the guys who could totally spoil the 759 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,800 party here. He's a wild card, but just sort 760 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,040 of the stats that get can get thrown around around him are the 761 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,160 fact that he's a 347 Mylar, he's a three time Valencia half 762 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,280 marathon champion, the former half marathon world record 763 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,360 holder. But all of that speed skews, you 764 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,880 know, to the shorter events where even if you take a really 765 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,520 fast 5K10K time, what we saw even with Joshua chapter guy is 766 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,640 that the marathon's a longer distance and so there is 767 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,080 sometimes a learning curve that comes with the event. 768 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,120 Some people will defy that. The Sifan Hassans of the world 769 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,440 who can win in their debut and still run a fast time. 770 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,000 But yeah, I mean, he should be a player. 771 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:10,200 His half marathon volume and time suggests that if he runs 772 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,040 2O3 or faster, I'll be pretty impressed. 773 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,560 And then if he's in contention with those guys through 30 Ki 774 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,520 mean you got to wonder what his closing speed is going to look 775 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,680 like, you know, with that little race left. 776 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,920 Yeah, no, I absolutely, I think so. 777 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,720 Obviously, Tolar and Kajalcha trained together as part of the 778 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:38,280 same group coached by Gamadido. Dafo also coaches to SASAFA. 779 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,160 Hey, where's that guy's like? Nomination for Like World 780 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,520 Athletics Coach of the Year. He really does deserve it, 781 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,320 doesn't he? He is one of those guys. 782 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:47,880 Yeah. Hopefully he will be there. 783 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,120 He wasn't there. He wasn't there today. 784 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,360 He's arriving. Apparently he was arriving later 785 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,880 today. So he'll, he'll hopefully be 786 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,120 there tomorrow at the press conference. 787 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,960 So I'll see if I can chat to him because that would be, that 788 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,640 would be pretty cool and be interesting to find out more 789 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,440 from him. But yeah, he. 790 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,440 Yeah. And, and one of the Brits, 791 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:11,080 Mohammed Mohammed has been out there training with, with 792 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:15,920 Kajolcha and, and toler and, and, and, and from what we've 793 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,040 heard, obviously they are super fit. 794 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,960 They're completely bonkers with their training. 795 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,440 And yeah, I mean, but that's, that's what you always hear when 796 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,440 you, when you, when you, when, when someone goes to these 797 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200 Ethiopian or Kenyan training camps, I guess that's what you 798 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,840 always hear is that the way they train is completely bonkers and 799 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,360 very intense. So. 800 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,800 The fastest marathon debut by an Ethiopian guy, which is probably 801 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:46,160 on the table here, is by Guy Adola, 2O346 at the AT. 802 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,640 Do you remember this race? 2017 Berlin Marathon. 803 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,720 It was epic. I think I was, I was. 804 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,160 I'm just writing about this one because I was in it just two 805 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:03,280 hours back and it was rainy. Kipchogi was in it, but Kipchogi 806 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,120 was just trying to fend off this random Ethiopian who no one had 807 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,800 ever heard of. And it was Guyadola, who's now 808 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,320 35 years old. I his name popped up on on my 809 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,720 Twitter feed the other day because he won the Rotterdam 810 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:22,600 marathon in two O 354, which actually might end up being his 811 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:29,440 best performance since since that race in Berlin. 812 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,160 But I was just curious 'cause like when you look at the all 813 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,280 time sort of list, like Kenya probably has 10 or so guys who 814 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,440 have debuted faster than that. Obviously Kiptim was the 815 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,760 fastest. And then was it? 816 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,680 Did Sauwi debut faster than Kiptim? 817 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:50,960 2O2 O 5 so no because Kiptim's debut was a two O 1 wasn't it 818 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,360 so. Was it two O 1? 819 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,040 Yeah, it was the two O 1 in Valencia was his debut, and then 820 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,400 201 in London and then 201 in Chicago. 2 flat, 2 flat in 821 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:03,960 Chicago. Yeah. 822 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,000 Yeah, so, so, OK, so we're watching that. 823 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,360 Let's see, what else was I paying attention to? 824 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,320 Joshua chapter guy we're rooting for for more progress because 825 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,680 double Olympic gold medalist world record holder at 5K and 826 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:26,680 10K on the track and his three marathons so far have been solid 827 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:33,080 right two O 452 is his best from was it Amsterdam last fall or 828 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,160 was it Tokyo last year one of the two. 829 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,680 Tokyo, I believe. OK, but maybe London's where it 830 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,200 all comes together. He's he's making progress. 831 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,440 Not everyone gets it right on their first time. 832 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,960 Even Kipchogi, like you look at his resume, there was Hamburg, 833 00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:55,240 then there was Berlin, where he finished second, and then from 834 00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:57,640 there he became the star. So sometimes it takes people, 835 00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:01,880 you know, two or three races. So it's clear that Cheptigai 836 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,600 decided to fully lean into the marathon because he skipped the 837 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,040 World Championships last year. And so with more time fully 838 00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:11,640 committed to the marathon, maybe we see a little bit more 839 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:16,200 progress. Those are the heavy hitters on 840 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,200 the men's side. Now the battle for top Brit. 841 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,760 So well before we move on from that, so they those guys are 842 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,560 going to be going in the two O 330 pace group. 843 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,360 So that is the the target pace. Yeah, so they're going for PBS. 844 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:34,200 They're going for PBS. Amanel Petros is going to be in 845 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,320 there going for the European record, which I think is is in 846 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,560 that two O 3 something high range. 847 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,160 So I think that's, is that Abdi Negi, Bashar Abdi, one of those 848 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,560 two, two guys, is he? Gonna wear glasses because like 849 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:49,880 he was the guy who held. I know he holds that he might be 850 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,120 the the half marathon record holder with glasses now Zuhair 851 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,960 Talbi just popped at 2 at 3:45 in regular spectacles. 852 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,760 Heteros has raced in glasses before. 853 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,080 He might might want to get that record back. 854 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,280 So I'll be curious to see what what I wear. 855 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,640 He's he's got on, but yeah, so that's that's that pack. 856 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:19,160 So look for front pack Salway versus Kiplimo versus Kiprudo 857 00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:23,160 and Kijelcha. Then the two O 3 group will 858 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:30,280 likely be Desera, Deresa, Galetta, Aminel, Petros, 859 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:34,200 Joffrey, Kenmore, Joshua Chap the guy correct? 860 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,240 Yes, correct. Yeah. 861 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,000 And then is there a British pack? 862 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,120 So, yeah, so obviously originally in this race we had 863 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,680 Emil Caress who was going to go for the British record, which is 864 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,000 my father was 20511 and Alex, he was going to Olympic triathlon 865 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,480 champion was going to. Well, actually the record for 866 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:59,760 fastest born Brit is a little faster now for all marathons. 867 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,120 Indeed, indeed, it is Charles Hicks indeed. 868 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,400 But obviously not. Not on a record eligible course. 869 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,040 And he is no longer a Brit. We don't count him anymore. 870 00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,440 He was. Born He was born in Britain. 871 00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,840 He was born in Britain, that is true. 872 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:16,320 That is true. But yeah, so he but yeah, so I 873 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,960 think this, but obviously Emmel Cress was going from o'farrers 874 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,720 record. That's not happening. 875 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,280 So now there is going to be a 206 something pace group that 876 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,560 Alex, you will be one of the paces for that group now. 877 00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,160 And that group will therefore contain the sort of the top 878 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,720 rats, Mohammed Mohammed, Phil Sessaman, Patrick Dever and then 879 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,040 also from the Puma elite group group alongside Patrick Dever. 880 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,920 I expect Peter Lynch as well to be in that group most likely. 881 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,240 Can you ask tomorrow, I guess, if Alex E has permission to 882 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:58,240 finish the race? I'll find out. 883 00:52:58,240 --> 00:52:59,720 Seriously. I'll see what I can find out. 884 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,240 Yeah. Right, because he could probably 885 00:53:03,240 --> 00:53:07,520 stay in and still run 207 high, 208 high if he's feeling great. 886 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,320 That is true. That's true. 887 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,440 But I mean, now he's already run 206 in Valencia. 888 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,880 It's like there was only any point doing that if he's going 889 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,280 to run 205, right. So otherwise I suspect he's he's 890 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,560 focused on the triathlon because yeah, that would be, I think 891 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:27,680 that's his focus this year. So, but yeah, and the battle for 892 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:31,560 top Brit is interesting because obviously Patrick Dever is a 893 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,520 person who obviously has now podiumed in New York. 894 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:41,240 He I spoke to him today and he was kind of obviously, you know, 895 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,120 talked a little bit about about the upgrade and sort of the 896 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:50,240 mixed feelings around that. But also like he's now that that 897 00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,640 205 group doesn't exist. Like I don't think he wasn't, 898 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,120 he's not sure whether he would have gone for that anyway, but 899 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,800 he's now going to be in that 206 group. 900 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,360 So it does mean that the battles kind of a bit more open. 901 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,640 It feels otherwise. We thought there were going to 902 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,720 be 2 battles for sort of Emil Caress and Patrick Devour and 903 00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:09,320 then the other Brits kind of further down. 904 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,160 But now I think it looks like the top Brits will all be sorted 905 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:13,920 together and we'll we'll see how that goes. 906 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,560 And and Phil Sesserman's coming off like 2 PBS, but he's kind of 907 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,200 two O 710 is his PB and so he's kind of looking to kind of bring 908 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,240 that down. So yeah. 909 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,640 And again to the two O Sixers, sorry. 910 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,200 All right, let's wrap up with predictions. 911 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,000 Who we got winning on the men's side and the women's side and 912 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,360 what is the winning time? Let's start women's race. 913 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,960 Who you got? I I have got tickets to SAFER 914 00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:55,440 and 21455. OK, I like it. 915 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:05,800 I'm going to go Helen O'berry in 2/14/44. 916 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:14,400 Brave all right? Men's side, who you got? 917 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,560 This is tough, but I'm going to give it to Solway I think. 918 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:26,600 I think it's always just just still just that that little bit 919 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:34,000 of a level above so and I'm going to say 20140. 920 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,320 Whoa. OK. 921 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:49,880 I'm going to go also with Solway and I'm going to go 20157, All 922 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,720 right, All right. Is it? 923 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,880 It's not interesting to just pick top Brit, all right? 924 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,840 Well, top Brit, top Brit on the men's side can be quite 925 00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,000 interesting, I think. So women's side, it'll be Eilish 926 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:07,600 Mcculligan unless she drops out. Probably, yeah. 927 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:14,600 On the men's side, yeah, maybe. I mean, I, I, I still think I, 928 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,040 I, I'm actually going to put in a sneaky bet on Mohammed 929 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:25,440 Mohammed because as I say, he, he went out to, he's got APB of 930 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,360 two 07/05. He went out and was training 931 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,320 with, with Gabardine Deafo and that training group with Toler 932 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,320 and Kojelcha. So I think there is a chance 933 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,640 that he, he kind of makes a bit of a, a jump. 934 00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:46,800 So I'm kind of going for him. I'm going to go that. 935 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,040 That was a very compelling case. If you're training with Gaddefo, 936 00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,960 then yeah, you're going to be really good. 937 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:59,680 So yeah, just I'll go Mohammed, Mohammed and I'll go 20. 938 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,280 I thought you'd go with Patrick Dever and the the Premier 939 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,320 Elites. That's that's why I was leaving 940 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,040 that one open. Look at that gap, it's like he's 941 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,160 running 20858 in New York, I guess versus. 942 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,960 But he podium. Mohammed Mohammed's 2O7O5. 943 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,440 Yeah, but he podiumed in New York, which surely is that. 944 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,280 It's the same story as Helena Berry, right? 945 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,640 It's worth a lot more than than than two O 858 surely. 946 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200 You just want me to pick Patty D All right, I'll pick Patty D I'm 947 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:34,120 going Patty D in 206-2020. Here we go. 948 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,720 All right, yeah, I'm I'm probably going to say two O 650 949 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:44,200 for Mohammed Mohammed if I if he wins or if he wins for Brit so. 950 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,880 Well, we want to hear your predictions, so drop them in the 951 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:51,280 Spotify comments section or let us know on Instagram or Twitter. 952 00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,880 Preet will be in the media tent providing updates live on 953 00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:01,880 Twitter and then gathering interviews with the pros. 954 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,360 And then we will be back next week to recap all of the action 955 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,240 that took place in London and all of the latest track and 956 00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,320 field and running news 'cause there there's some things 957 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,800 happening. You got the Kipkeno Classic out 958 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,040 in Kenya with some star-studded fields. 959 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:26,120 Gabby Thomas is competing Crazy 1500 out there with who is it? 960 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,120 It's you got Timothy Cheriot versus Emmanuel Nyoni that I 961 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,320 think is like the race that I'm most excited for. 962 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:39,720 Stacked men's hundred as well. So lots to look forward to on 963 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,240 the track and on the roads this weekend. 964 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,200 And we'll be back next week to recap it all. 965 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:47,160 So I've been your host, Chris Chavez, and on behalf of Preet 966 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:51,360 Majithia, we will see you next week 'cause I love track and 967 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:56,960 fields and marathons. All right, that's a wrap on 968 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,200 today's episode. 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