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All right, it is June 29th. 
I'm Chris Chavez. 

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I'm Preet Majethia. 
And I am Mac fleet. 

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And welcome to another edition 
of this week in track and field.

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We are recording this the day 
after Paris Diamond League 

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delivered a historic evening. 3 
Diamond League records, some 

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thrilling races. 
It honestly ended up being near 

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perfect conditions when it came 
to the actual sort of racing, 

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despite there were rumors in the
48 hours beforehand that this 

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thing was going to get cancelled
due to some brutal heat in 

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France right now. 
And I mean they are facing like 

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this crazy heat storm. 
I saw some Instagram story of 

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someone trying to buy wine and 
they couldn't because the shops,

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I think we're only selling it 
for like, you had to drink it 

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indoors. 
And so there's some some weird 

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stuff I think happening out with
this heat wave. 

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But you were trying to explain 
to us just sort of why some of 

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these European cities aren't, 
you know, as well suited for 

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this cause of the air con, 
right? 

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I mean, yeah, there's no, 
there's no air conditioning in a

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lot of lot of places. 
I mean offices and places like 

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that do have it, shopping malls 
and stuff. 

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But, but in terms of a lot of 
the other buildings and homes in

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general do not tend to have air 
conditioning as much. 

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I think Paris a little bit more 
than say London, like London and

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and Leicester where I am right 
now. 

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Like we were suffering the last 
few days and we only got up to 

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whatever it was 3435°, which is 
what about about 9090 ish. 

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But we were still, we were still
midnight. 

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I think it was mid 90s, but we 
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horrifically like it is, you 
know, because there is no air 

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conditioning. 
The homes are well insulated 

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because of the winters, right? 
So they are designed to retain 

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heat. 
They're not designed for the 

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heat at all. 
And and also a lot of the homes 

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are older as well, which means 
that they just, they're just 

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once they get hot, they stay hot
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So there's just a lot of 
problems. 

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A lot of the infrastructure is 
also not designed for the heat. 

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I think in Europe, it's better 
designed in the UK, like the 

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trains don't have the train 
tracks don't have expansion 

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gaps. 
So all the trains have to run 

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slower because otherwise the, 
the trains could derail and, you

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know, all kinds of things just 
just stop working. 

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The, the roads start melting as 
well. 

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Just like it's just because it's
just not designed. 

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They haven't spent the extra 
money because they don't 

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historically they haven't had 
the heat, heat, you know, at 

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this level. 
And now it's becoming more and 

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more regular. 
And yeah, everyone's trying to 

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invest in air conditioning. 
There were no, no air 

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conditioning units available on 
Amazon. 

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I checked the last last couple 
of days. 

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New York is supposed to hit 100°
on on Thursday back. 

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You're listening to all of this 
being like, you guys are wimps, 

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but it doesn't actually get that
hot for you, right? 

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Not all right. 
Yeah, I know San Diego is the 

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best place on Earth. 
I mean, what we're looking at, 

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like a weekly high of 74 here? 
I mean, that's every single day.

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7272727373737474 Yeah. 
I mean, yeah, it sucks. 

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It sucks for you guys. 
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it actually happened and I guess
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that we we kind of learned this 
from last year when they Nike 

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hosted breaking 4 is that they 
the the stadium is like pretty 

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conducive to keeping out a lot 
of the wind. 

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And so it wasn't necessarily 
going to be terrible weather for

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racing. 
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this, you know, is it Charlottee
Stadium or is Todd de Charlottee

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what? 
One of the two? 

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It has yielded a bunch of world 
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Faith Yegan Jakob's got a world 
record here on this track, right

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Pre Am I? 
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there were three world records 
in one meet as well? 

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That's right. 
Yeah. 

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So this is a fast track and it 
was definitely taken advantage 

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of yesterday as we had three 
meet records. 

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Colin, Kevin and Shippy LED 
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We had Audrey Weira 15380. 
We had more Lady Paulina 4848 

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breaking her own Diamond League 
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Tons of meet records were set, 
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So we're going to talk all about
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We're going to start off with 
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probably the biggest of the 
bunch, and that was Audrey Weira

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inching closer to that world 
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She came to Paris explicitly 
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In that previous press 
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plan was simple. 
The pacemaker is going to go out

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in world record pace and we're 
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hold on for as much as possible.
The end result here was a 153.8 

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Diamond League record meet 
record, world lead, Swiss 

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national record keeps her at #3 
on the all time list, doesn't 

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move her up, doesn't like she's 
she only just got a ran a little

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bit faster than you know, her 
previous performance that we saw

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over in Oslo. 
Now she's the first woman with 

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multiple sub 150 fours. 
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Jeremy La crotch of Bilova was 
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getting there. 
That world record is 153.28. 

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So this puts wear O now almost a
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there are people who view both 
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the clean world record, but it's
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able to possibly eradicate 
cratch of a lobe's time in 

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general. 
The field also lived up to the 

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hype of this one. 
We had femka bowl with a lot of 

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drawing, a lot of eyes. 5 
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eyes. 
How? 

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How do you pronounce your last 
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Preet, The French Bourgeois. 
Bourgeois. 

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Yeah, I don't know about 
something. 

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Nice Bourgeois going 15565 
French national record in 3rd 

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place. 
Femca was second one, 5560 in 

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just her 4th 800 meter race 
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We'll expand upon Femca in a 
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Audrey Wearo. 
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shaped up, it was really, I 
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knew that she's the heavy 
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what she did when she raced 
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So this is a full on world 
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watching the splits kind of 
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And it really was, I think just 
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was clocked at 59 five. 
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order and is where maybe a bit 
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She did close hard, but she 
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in 28 O one in order to break 
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realistic after the hot pace at 
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But she did rally well in the 
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become just sort of a staple of 
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hundreds. 
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think overall, not a shock that 
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shock at the time either. 
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incremental steps being taken 
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record. 
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think that if, you know, Keely 
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best out of herself. 
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was missing. 
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head until the European champs 
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So I'll go to Mac first 'cause I
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analytical eyes from this one. 
Where did you sort of see, you 

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know, the best parts of this 
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maybe the pace slipped a little 
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the world record, you know, 
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It's pretty interesting. 
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critique this because everyone, 
everyone's most effective way of

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running a certain distance is 
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And we're, we're like, Hey, your
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maybe some other people. 
That might be her most, her best

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way to run 800 meters. 
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proving that absolutely is she's
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times ever. 
And so it's like, yeah, run your

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3rd 200 faster, but I don't know
if that's going to actually, you

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know, serve her any benefit into
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She has such a strong close and 
she's confident in like in 

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leaning on her last 150 that I 
don't you know, it's hard for me

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to be like, yeah, waste that 
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race when you're so confident in
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I think my biggest take away 
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up that first run with an even 
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You know, she lopped off a ton 
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and she just totally backed it 
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And it's for real now. 
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It was for real before, but now 
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This is this is the type of 
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she can front run. 
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kind of like go back and forth 
on is a rabbit necessary to run 

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a world record and not and like,
I don't think there's a right or

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wrong answer to that, but she's 
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the front. 
She's comfortable doing it. 

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And yeah, I think if her and 
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you know, and they're running 
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might get closer, but she just 
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necessarily need Keely in front 
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that fast. 
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online and every single week, 
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necessarily need rabbits to see 
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know, it's not like 1, you know,
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I will say this, and this one 
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This rabbit did a good job, 
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they had in. 
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Was it Ostrava with Oh no no, it
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That was the worst rapping job. 
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Where she she pulled off? 
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Zagrab. 
Where she Zagrab where she she 

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pulled off into the middle of 
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and everyone had to run around 
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That was sick. 
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I don't know it, it's for my, 
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I love seeing these records go 
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head for championships. 
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where it's like, well, why don't
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Like that's kind of not fair. 
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rabbits or 800 meter runners get
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stuff. 
So yeah, I don't know. 

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It's, it's just an awesome run. 
It's cool to see an athlete that

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that's that's so confident and 
they can like just outwardly say

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they're going to go after World 
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actually, you know, getting 
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Like, and I would just say like 
her last 120 is scary. 

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I got that pace. 
It's absolutely scary the way 

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that she pulls away from 
everybody. 

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So yeah, I think in our like, 
you know, my knuckle dragging 

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sense, I'd be like, yeah, run 
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going to break the world record.
But it's so you got to have some

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level of relaxation in these 
eight hundreds when you're going

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out so fast. 
So I would almost say like run 

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your run 2 to 4 faster than run,
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I think would would be like my 
gut. 

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But yeah, I think she's just 
feeling out what this race feels

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like at 153 pace. 
So like she's not going to do it

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the first time. 
So the more times she runs this 

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quickly, the more she's going to
kind of like figure out like I 

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think I can do something 
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So I'll I'll be interested to 
see what she does in her next go

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about. 
And she also, I know I'm going 

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on here, but she can't do this 
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performances are going to take 
something out of her. 

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And so, you know, we'd be lucky 
the. 

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Plan right now is she's going to
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training block for a bit before 
European champ so. 

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That could have been it, to be 
honest. 

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Like it. 
It's really, really hard to get 

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back up to this sort of shape, 
especially world record shape 

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like this. 
I wouldn't be surprised if we 

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don't see a faster time this 
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I know I said two weeks ago, I 
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see a faster one. 
We just saw a faster one. 

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I'd be. 
I wouldn't be surprised if we 

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don't. 
My only thinking is they want to

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do it up for Lausanne and home 
track, home crowd. 

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It's just a matter of like, who 
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as well? 
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get the invite to London. 
That's still sort of, as of 

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right now, shaping up to be, you
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Georgia Hunter Bell has also 
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her ability to try and get the 
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So yeah, Preet, I guess you 
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this race, what stood out to 
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Well, I, I just want to put it 
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wider context, right? 
So this streak of racing is the 

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greatest streak of women's 800 
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June Stockholm 15398, sixteenth 
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of June Paris 153.8. 
I mean like we've never seen 

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anything like it. 
I don't know if we'll ever see 

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anything like it again. 
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that back-to-back to back just 
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right. 
And yeah, I agree with you. 

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There's there's a possibility we
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there's also a possibility that,
you know, she goes back and she 

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builds. 
She's only 22 years old. 

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It's easy to forget she's only 
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She emerged on the scene with a 
front running performance in the

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Swiss championships in August 
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Diamond League final. 
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improving with every race, with 
every she's still learning. 

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You know, she's still with her 
coach from when she was when she

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first started athletics at nine 
years old. 

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She's still with the same coach 
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Like she's like she, I think 
she's got a lot more to develop 

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potentially, right? 
So I think that there's every 

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chance we see, we see a lot 
more. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, yeah, totally agree. 

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I was just for that. 
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that context. 
I don't necessarily, and I don't

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want people to think I'm saying 
we're never going to see her run

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faster. 
I'm just. 

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You're saying like for this 
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This point of the season, 
because of what Preet just 

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listed off like we've never seen
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races in a row ever before from 
an athlete. 

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So it's like pretty easy to 
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and, you know, armchair 
quarterback this and be like, we

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might not see it the rest of the
season. 

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She's 22. 
Like she's going to run faster 

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at some point in her life. 
It might be that like the end of

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the season. 
It's probably going to be next 

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year. 
Yeah, it's it's just like her. 

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I don't know it it is. 
It has been an incredible last 

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month for her. 
Her 2026 season is the career a 

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lot of people would would kill 
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I mean, it's just been, if you 
you told me that those are going

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to be my three fastest times 
ever. 

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Sure. 
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and I'd never run faster than 
that. 

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Yeah, I'll take it. 
It's also, it's also like the, 

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the, the really the difficult 
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consistently, the, the stars 
have to align and she's aligning

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them pretty damn regularly. 
Like she's running all time 

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marks almost every single time 
out. 

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And like just the little things 
like sleep, you're travelling 

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everywhere, the food, like 
you're shaking hands everywhere.

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She is at this point at every 
single meet, she's not getting 

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sick. 
And it's there's like all these 

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little things and then be able 
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put performances out. 
Like this is just I have so, so,

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so much respect for. 
And on top of it, to be able to 

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throw out like, yeah, I'm going 
to go after a world record. 

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And like, it's little things 
like sleep. 

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Like, it's just so difficult. 
And you got to have the stars 

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align. 
And she's just doing it like 

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time after time. 
And it's just so impressive. 

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We saw each other in a Strava, 
Yes. 

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I asked you about the world 
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You said, oh, we'll see how we 
go. 

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You run this amazing 60153A 
today. 

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How good's that? 
Yeah, it's really cool because 

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I'm in a good form yet. 
And that gave me a. 

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Lot of hope and motivation for 
the rest of my season. 

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And yeah, today it was a really 
good, cool day trying to catch 

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the world records. 
And it was really hard because I

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was alone, especially at the end
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But I'm still really happy with 
my time. 

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We get. 
Do you take a little look on the

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inside and see the the lights or
do you pay no attention to them?

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Yeah, yeah. 
At the beginning I was trying to

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run with the pacemaker and then 
when she she was out of the 

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race, I tried to stay with the, 
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And it was hard to stay with the
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And I saw at 600 I was a little 
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So I just tried to to catch up 
the lights. 

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And yeah, at the end I was not 
seeing the light anymore because

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I was just at the same distance.
But yeah, it's still not the 

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world record. 
So maybe another day. 

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When you think about it, like 
the last two races you've been 

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on your own. 
You obviously had Keely in 

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Stockholm. 
Do you think once you guys go 

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head to head again, that will 
record? 

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That's the time for it to go? 
Yeah. 

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I think it will be the the best 
case for world records to be. 

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Yeah, together on the race. 
But yeah, I don't have another 

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race before Birmingham. 
So if the world record is still 

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on until Birmingham, it could be
a Birmingham. 

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But yeah, we will see. 
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Do you get a break now? 
I feel like you've been non-stop

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racing for the last month. 
Do you get to relax for a little

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bit? 
Yeah, now, Yeah, Now I have a 

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break and I have a not another 
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Good. 
But yeah, I had a lot of freeze 

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in the next few days, in the 
last few days, Yeah. 

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But now I have a little bit of 
rest and preparation. 

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Perfect. 
Well, you're a 153.8 runner, 

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which I'm sure running 150 
threes is going to become 

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something so normal for you as 
time goes on. 

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But Audrey, congratulations. 
Another great. 

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Thank you very much. 
Well done. 

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So Preet, with specific regards 
to Sundays performance, I guess 

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of what stood out to you as you 
watch sort of like the splits 

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unfold and and and and 
everything. 

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Well, it was interesting that 
the 1st 400 was exactly the 

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same. 
It was A558 1st 400, exactly the

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same as what they ran in 
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Stockholm. 
So in that sense, I think the 

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the 1st 200 was slightly 
quicker, I think. 

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And, and then the second term 
was slower. 

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I think in was that in, in, in, 
in Stockholm. 

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So but, but, but I think, you 
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say, like the second that that 
middle 400 overall was, it was 

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perhaps a little slower and then
she closed harder than than she 

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did in in Stockholm. 
So that, yeah, as I say, there's

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there's something there in in 
terms of can you play around 

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with that? 
And I think that that is a 

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thing. 
Can you play around with that 

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first 400 and make it half 
second quicker? 

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That's when you got a rabbit. 
Is that when it's easier to run 

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a little bit more? 
I know, Mac, as you said, we've 

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we've had our debates on on how 
you know how much the rabbit 

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kind of really does impact it in
a in a 2 minute race, but it. 

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Maybe that, that's something 
that gives you that extra 1% 

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that you need, I don't know, or 
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need at this level. 
It's so fine. 

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And also just in terms of what 
your body's energy conservation 

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can do. 
And, but, but I'd, you know, 

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like putting yourself, it was 
just, it just seems so easy for 

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her. 
That's, that's, I think that's 

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just the, that's just the thing 
that is so ridiculously 

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impressive. 
It's not that it's not that 

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it's, you know, there's anything
she could, you know, might do 

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differently. 
It's just that it just looks so 

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easy. 
It looks too easy. 

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And it's like, I don't know, you
know, it's hard. 

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Therefore it's hard to tell like
what could she do better? 

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What went like, did anything go 
wrong? 

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No, probably not. 
Like this is an all time 

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performance. 
But like, if we're trying to 

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nitpick and say, like, what else
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half a second to get the world 
record like it, it just looks so

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easy. 
And I think we'll we'll come on 

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to a couple of other athletes in
this meet that made it look easy

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as well. 
But but I think it just shows 

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that there is there feels like 
that there's more there. 

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And I just think I she she can 
keep on doing this and she just 

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needs to be like just keep in 
her zone like whatever she's 

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doing right now is working. 
And she struck while the irons 

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hot and she's raced really well.
And I think it is right. 

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She goes back into training 
block. 

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She's taken advantage as much as
she can of that that racing kind

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of sharpness that she's got. 
And Europeans is going to be 

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absolutely exciting, right. 
And we'll probably come on to 

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that a bit more. 
We talk about femka, but I think

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Europeans looks like it's going 
to be going to be insane. 

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And I've got my creditation 
through today, so I'm extra 

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excited. 
Let's. 

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Go, let's go. 
I'll pose the question to the 

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Brit first on this one. 
It has Audrey Wearo moved ahead 

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of Keely as the best 800m runner
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Right now, yes, baby, but I 
think we need to see how the 

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next couple of weeks play out 
because obviously Keely ran her 

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season opener, she ran APB, she 
ran what is now the seventh 

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fastest time in history like 
she's and she's that was her 

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season opener. 
Like Audrey Rowa already had a 

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season opener before that, 
before that race in Stockholm. 

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So I think we have to give key 
like Keely's timeline is 

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slightly different. 
I think we've got to give her 

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like these next two races, pre 
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League to see can she 
potentially get up to that level

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because I think that's that's 
what we're expecting out of 

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Keely and it maybe is. 
And I think, you know, with 

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Keely, you have to give her 
credit, right? 

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She has won five global medals 
in five years. 

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No one else has ever done that, 
right? 

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Even though she's only won one 
gold, she's won five global 

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medals. 
Out of the other people that 

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have been around in this era, 
things won 3, Mary Miraz won 

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three, but no one else has won 
like 5. 

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And she's been there all the way
through. 

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She's consistently been 
performing at a really high 

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level and she like I was looking
at her performances, right, Like

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the number of times she has run 
stupidly quick times, right? 

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She's run sub 15717 times. 
The only people who have done 

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that more Maria Mottola and 
Casta Semenya, right. 

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So she's run sub 15611 times sub
155 five times. 

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I don't think anyone's done run 
sub 155 more than she has. 

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But like it it well, Audrey is 
now level with her. 

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I think. 
No, no, sorry, Audrey is still 

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on three. 
But like you know that it just 

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shows that she's got a huge 
amount of consistency. 

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And I think there's there's more
there. 

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Like the one worry obviously 
with Keely is she had to pull 

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out of the British champs 400 
meters last weekend. 

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She looked pretty upset as she 
was going off the track. 

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Her team have said it was 
precautionary. 

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Now we haven't really heard 
anything since like she's 

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normally all over Instagram all 
the time. 

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Her Insta has been pretty quiet.
So at the moment we do not know 

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anything more and I really hope 
that it was precautionary and 

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like she's still on schedule, 
but obviously we'll find out in 

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the next few days. 
Is she still going to be a pre 

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and and is everything still on 
track for the rest of the 

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season? 
Yeah, no, no, I guess my 

447
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,000
question wasn't necessarily if 
we took the last five years as 

448
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,880
the overall body of work, yeah, 
for sure, Keely's still #1 but 

449
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,280
2026 outdoor season alone, I 
think I'd have to give the edge 

450
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,080
to Audrey Weiro right now. 
She did beat Keely one-on-one. 

451
00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,680
Mac OK. 
Chris, that's an impossible 

452
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,880
question. 
I mean, if you're just going to 

453
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,160
go out to be like, OK, who is 
the best 800m runner in the last

454
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,000
week? 
Oh. 

455
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,920
Audrey, where it's Audrey Keely.
Keely's got, I would say another

456
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,560
18 months of of runway before 
Beijing. 

457
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,360
And then that's when, that's 
when we can revisit this. 

458
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,480
But I guess like the the the 
good thing is that this is no 

459
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,320
longer just a Keely dominated 
event, which is the way things 

460
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,480
were looking 12 months ago. 
But then even 12 months ago, 

461
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,000
that's where things were 
looking. 

462
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,160
And then she gets beat at the 
World Championships by Lillian 

463
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,920
Odira, who isn't looking so 
great so far at the start of 

464
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,200
this season, beat by her own 
training partner. 

465
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,200
And then she rebounds during the
indoor season. 

466
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,400
And now we've got the emergence 
of Audrey Werro and Fem Kabul. 

467
00:25:53,360 --> 00:25:57,560
So I think overall for the 
event, it's a it's great, it's 

468
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:02,640
in a great spot now and it's so 
much more entertaining than the 

469
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,000
direction that it was going 12 
months ago where it was looking 

470
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,960
like Keely was going to win 
everything. 

471
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,240
Until she didn't. 
Yeah. 

472
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,560
I couldn't disagree with you 
more. 

473
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,200
She hasn't won everything. 
She hasn't been winning every. 

474
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,040
I mean, she's won. 
No, it's that's what it looked 

475
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,720
like 12 months ago. 12 months 
ago, the World Championships 

476
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,760
hadn't happened. 
Yet, OK, we'll just, we'll agree

477
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,480
to disagree on the dominance of 
Keely. 

478
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,800
She is like, she's over all the 
best. 

479
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,600
Yeah, she's the the I mean, she 
lost world, so it's kind of hard

480
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,200
for me to even argue she's the 
best right now. 

481
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,120
But yeah, 'cause I'm such a I'm.
A world you weigh the 

482
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,840
championships so much higher. 
Yeah, yes, I do. 

483
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,680
And I I think that they should 
be compared to just running like

484
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,320
time trials out there. 
World Championships is where 

485
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,960
people actually race each other 
and those should be weighed more

486
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,480
heavily. 
But yeah, I'm just, I'm excited 

487
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,920
to see how how Audrey Vero 
starts running these 

488
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,760
championship races now that 
she's a 153 runner. 

489
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,360
It's going to add a different 
dynamic to these races. 

490
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:13,720
And she's going to be someone 
that instead of her keying off 

491
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,960
of other runners, she now is 
going to have a target on her 

492
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,320
back and, and all other athletes
in her races are going to be 

493
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560
looking at her to to make moves.
And that's going to just that's 

494
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,600
going to change the dynamic of 
how these things are run. 

495
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,160
And that's, that was that's that
gets me most excited is this 

496
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,600
type of racing. 
I will just say just going back 

497
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:37,280
one bit to the splits. 
If you were to compare her first

498
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,200
four to Radisha's four, and if 
you go off of the six second 

499
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:48,400
slower rule per lap, he went 
through his first lap in 4928. 

500
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,640
So if you do the six seconds, 
like 6 second rule and now we're

501
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,160
getting right there on the 
women's world record for that, 

502
00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,080
that opening lap. 
So yeah, it would be kind of fun

503
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,760
to see here, go out a little bit
faster to see what happens. 

504
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,280
This episode of the City of 
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505
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,680
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There are athletes competing at 

506
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,760
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507
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508
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509
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All right, we are here with Tim 

510
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Rossi, the head of experiences 
at Bandit, because Bandit is 

511
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:27,040
coming back with the Unsponsored
project for Year 4. 

512
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:32,520
Tim, why does Bandit continue to
show up for unsponsored athletes

513
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,960
in track and field? 
Yeah, Chris Stoke to be here 

514
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,800
talking about unsponsored 
project Year 4. 

515
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:41,360
It's crazy that this initiative 
we started in 2023 is on Year 4 

516
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,080
now. 
I think the main reason that 

517
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,560
we're burning this back and and 
continue to invest is it 

518
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720
continues to serve a need within
the sport. 

519
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,360
The the top top of the athletes 
in the sport of track and field 

520
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,320
are getting taken care of and 
making a great amount of money, 

521
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,440
which is absolutely awesome. 
We love to see that. 

522
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,640
But there does still continue to
be this need of raising the 

523
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,160
floor for those athletes that 
are pursuing the sport at the 

524
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,200
highest level, but maybe haven't
had that breakthrough, maybe 

525
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,480
have went through a rough patch 
in terms of injury or 

526
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,600
performance for a year or two 
and are just falling through the

527
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,920
cracks of the sponsorship model 
that we have right now. 

528
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,040
So the unsponsored projects 
coming back supporting some of 

529
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,480
those individuals competing at 
US outdoors that don't have a 

530
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,000
brand supporting them right now.
So what is an athlete get when 

531
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,480
they join in Bandits unsponsored
project? 

532
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,440
Yeah, so it's grown every single
year, which is really cool. 

533
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,160
But we talk about the key 
pillars. 

534
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,280
Cash is the least sexy thing to 
talk about, but also the most 

535
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,080
important for athletes. 
A lot of the time we just have 

536
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,160
cash as part of every single one
of these agreements. 

537
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,560
The athletes can use that on 
whatever they want as part of 

538
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,800
this agreement. 
Generally speaking, we try and 

539
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,440
have that cover, ideally travel 
costs, housing, potentially some

540
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120
additional cash into people's 
pockets depending on what hotel 

541
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,520
they're staying in or something 
like that. 

542
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,840
But travel for this meet is 
super, super important to cover.

543
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,520
Then the unbranded gear has 
become a huge part of this as 

544
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,000
well, so that the athletes can 
demonstrate that they're 

545
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,080
unsponsored when competing on 
the track. 

546
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,600
The release clause is an 
extraordinarily important part 

547
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,880
of these agreements where 
athletes are free to be released

548
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,000
from our agreement should 
another brand come with a 

549
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,880
traditional sponsorship model at
any point during these 

550
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360
agreements. 
And then a platform is the last 

551
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,680
thing we really want to promote 
and talk about these athletes 

552
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,640
and their amazing stories and 
really brought them up within 

553
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,080
the sport for the amazing 
performances that they are 

554
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,600
putting together and and how 
high of a level they are 

555
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,160
competing at. 
So those are the four key things

556
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,000
that we talk about within these 
agreements. 

557
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880
How can they find it? 
Yeah, that's a great question. 

558
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,920
You set it right there. 
This program and this support is

559
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,720
targeted, right for individuals 
planning to compete the US 

560
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,360
Outdoor Track and Field 
Championships stoke that it's in

561
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,240
New York this year. 
Right now the best way to get in

562
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,040
touch with us would be to reach 
out to the Bandit support e-mail

563
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,560
and those individuals will 
connect you with me. 

564
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,600
That's 
support@banditrunning.com. 

565
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,240
So if you're planning to compete
at US outdoors, I'd reach out 

566
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,360
there. 
I'll be proactively reaching out

567
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,320
to people. 
It's not again, the fanciest 

568
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,160
thing in the world. 
Maybe check your DMS if you're 

569
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240
an athlete that's looking at US 
outdoors. 

570
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,400
But yeah, reaching out to 
support@banditrunning.com is the

571
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,920
best way to get in touch right 
now. 

572
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,480
For more on bandits and 
sponsored project, stick around 

573
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,240
at the end of this episode. 
All right, let's move on over 

574
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,080
now to Femka Bowl or Femka 
Broder's bowl. 

575
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,360
Still not used to adding the 
extra name into it. 

576
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,080
So that 800 meter transition is 
for real. 

577
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,800
She ran 155.6 in first to finish
second. 

578
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:49,840
So that 800 meter progression 
has gone 159 in February, 157.4 

579
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:58,920
in Hanglo, 157.1 in Ostrava and 
now this 155.6 in Paris. 

580
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Just point O 6 shy of the Dutch 
national record by Ella van 

581
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Langen from those 92 Olympic 
Games in Barcelona. 

582
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,600
I think the coolest part to 
watching this race unfold was 

583
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,280
that she did have a little bit 
of a battle in the final, like 

584
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,960
250 meters with Bourgeois from 
from France. 

585
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,520
And as a result of that, I think
it kept her more engaged in 

586
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,080
those closing stages of the 
race. 

587
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,600
And she ends up winning that 
little duel by the tiniest of of

588
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,120
margins. 
Whereas if you get gapped like 

589
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,000
we kind of saw wear O do to her 
in the last race, you can maybe 

590
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,360
become just a tiny, tiny bit 
complacent and fall off of pace.

591
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,560
But this time around she raced 
all the way through. 

592
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,520
And I think it was it was, you 
know, a really, really great 

593
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,640
show. 
And kudos to Kyle gets to pat 

594
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,040
himself on the back because 
there is that clip of his from 

595
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720
earlier in the year. 
Was that like in March, I think,

596
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680
where he said he's like, oh, 
Femka is going to run 155? 

597
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,960
And she does right on it. 
She traded messages with me and 

598
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,880
she said, who would have thought
that we got to this point when 

599
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,440
we announced this thing a couple
months ago? 

600
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,160
And I was like, yeah, no, well, 
keep at it. 

601
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:29,560
And so very cool getting into 
this, like at this point in the 

602
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,640
800 is very, very exciting. 
And so now you add her into the 

603
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,120
mix of a potential medalist at 
the European Championships. 

604
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:44,320
When you know Hodgkinson, werro 
and femka get in there and yeah,

605
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,520
all around just the femka bowl 
800 meter experiment is getting 

606
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,160
more and more exciting. 
Preet, what were your thoughts 

607
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,600
watching this one? 
Yeah. 

608
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,080
I mean, it was the top end of 
the expectations that we maybe 

609
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,320
had for. 
Yeah, we're already here in 

610
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,520
June. 
Yeah, we're already 4 races in 

611
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,880
and we're already here. 
So look, I mean, FAMCO, we know 

612
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,639
that she's, she's a hugely 
talented athlete. 

613
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,480
And I think you know this like, 
yes, there will probably come a 

614
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,800
point, right? 
Like once you get to this level,

615
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,600
there may come a point where she
plateaus a little bit, right? 

616
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,840
That like the improvement 
trajectory, like it would be 

617
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,600
insane if the improvement 
trajectory went straight to 153 

618
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,199
like that would that would be 
bananas. 

619
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,920
But you know, like I'm not I'm 
not ruling it out entirely, but 

620
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,600
I I say that's probably a 5 to 
10% probability. 

621
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,679
And I think the higher 
probability is that at some 

622
00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:43,320
point here she she does plateau.
But that being said, right, she 

623
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,760
is still learning the event 
right and she's run 155 six. 

624
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,239
She is now the 24th fastest 
woman in history. 

625
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,800
Again, like crazy stat in your 
fourth ever race, right, serious

626
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:56,280
race. 
I'm not. 

627
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,080
And for David, I am ignoring the
one that she ran when she was 

628
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,560
like 15 or whatever, like 910 
years ago in two. 1017 there was

629
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,280
an indoor one that people forget
about. 

630
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,440
But you know the the four, you 
know it's her fourth real 800 

631
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,840
meter race. 
She's already at 155. 

632
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,600
She's still on improvement 
trajectory. 

633
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,480
She's still learning the event 
and the best fine as you said 

634
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Chris in this one was that she 
had a bit of competition. 

635
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,800
She had to fight it out and she 
she managed to out lean an ace 

636
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,120
ball tramp for that second 
place. 

637
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,920
She has not come lower than 
second in any of her 4800 meter 

638
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,240
races. 
That is a fun step. 

639
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,320
She has not run, you know, she's
not run over 2 minutes in any of

640
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,880
her 400 meter races this year. 
Like that's amazing, right? 

641
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:49,520
That's absolutely amazing. 
And I think, you know, you, and 

642
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,920
again, the other thing that I 
think is really interesting 

643
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,360
with, with stats, right, is if 
you go back through the years, 

644
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:01,720
right, breaking 1, going under 
156, only three people have done

645
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:06,680
it in any year going back to 
2017 until last year's World 

646
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,840
Championship final. 
Before that, if you go all the 

647
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,600
way back to 2017, like only less
than 3, three or the fewer 

648
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,240
people are broken one 53156. 
So she's an elite company. 

649
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:19,960
She's third fastest in the world
this year. 

650
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:24,720
And that, you know, like getting
below 156 is crazy hard. 

651
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,280
It's really hard. 
So I, I think we shouldn't, you 

652
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,640
know, we shouldn't undersell how
impressive that is. 

653
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,880
Now, yeah, she's trending in the
right direction, all things 

654
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,040
considered. 
Yeah, with Fenke Brothers ball 

655
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:49,440
second of the 800 women Fenke 
15560 for your fourth race only 

656
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,680
on the 800 metres overall. 
Are you happy with your 

657
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,200
performance tonight? 
Yeah, I actually cannot believe 

658
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,880
it yet. 
I mean, it's used to run 155 in 

659
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,760
your first season, let alone in 
my third outer race, so it's a 

660
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,040
shame. 
But I loved it so much. 

661
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,880
It was so much fun. 
The better with Anna, it was so 

662
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,760
tight and so cool, and Audrey in
front running another crazy 

663
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,600
time. 
So I love to race. 

664
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:17,200
How tough was the the home 
strategy? 

665
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,640
How? 
How hard was it? 

666
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Very hard, but it's always 
easier when you're battling 

667
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,040
people and I knew I needed to 
stay with her. 

668
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,840
I know the 8, the less than me 
just can make the difference, 

669
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,640
which you did today. 
So I actually think it helped 

670
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,480
me. 
I think it would have been 

671
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,520
harder alone because I would 
have seen Audrey run, run, run, 

672
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,880
be a bit lost. 
But when you're in the race, 

673
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,840
it's a different kind of 
mindset. 

674
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,280
A different person comes out and
you get to times like this. 

675
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,280
You've closed a little bit the 
gap with already with your 

676
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,560
former race in Stockholm. 
How to close even more with her?

677
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,200
How how to catch her in the next
races? 

678
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,840
Audrey yeah, I'm not looking at 
that. 

679
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,520
I mean, I'm completely new to 
this event. 

680
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,640
They, she, I, I think the world 
record will be broken soon. 

681
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,600
I'm not going to compare myself 
to people like that when I get 

682
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,560
to the level I will, but I'm 
very satisfied with 155 right 

683
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:11,560
now. 
I'm completely happy. 

684
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,400
So it's just amazing to see this
as a track lover and now the 800

685
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,200
lover, but I'm not comparing 
myself too much yet. 

686
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,400
What's next for you in the in 
the next weeks? 

687
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,000
I will have a training block. 
I'm very happy to have a 

688
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,400
training block at the three 
races. 

689
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,920
We could learn a lot. 
I had a injury, then I got back,

690
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
I got into racing, so it's nice 
to fine tune now a bit towards 

691
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560
Europeans. 
What could be your expectation 

692
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,120
or your objective in this summer
in the in the European 

693
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,760
Championship? 
I mean, I think it will be a 

694
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,240
great experience. 
I mean, it's not like the 400 

695
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:47,440
turtles. 
If you have a good time, you 

696
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,280
most likely make to the final. 
You have to run technical races,

697
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,280
you have to be smart. 
So I'm very looking forward to 

698
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,600
this experience. 
The field will be crazy. 

699
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,720
I mean, it's already with 
Georgia Bell, Hunter Bell, even 

700
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,680
five people below 156 from 
Europe. 

701
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,320
So we will see. 
But I'm just taking it step by 

702
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,760
step and enjoying and 
discovering this new event. 

703
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,840
Yeah. 
And just one fun start while I 

704
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,960
was doing this research, looking
at like a historic who had the 

705
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,600
world lead in the 800 meters in 
2020? 

706
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,400
K questions. 
This is the COVID year, 

707
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,480
obviously. 
So who had the world lead? 

708
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,120
It's the person you would least 
expect in the world. 

709
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,400
It wasn't Shelby Houlihan in a 
in a Bowerman time trial. 

710
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,920
It was not. 
Least expected. 

711
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,400
Well, no. 
It's one of the best athletes of

712
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,360
all time, but it's not someone 
you would expect. 

713
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Mac, do you have any guess? 
COVID year I have no clue I I 

714
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,640
don't. 
Give us a hint. 

715
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,560
What nationality? 
Canyon. 

716
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,720
Mary Maura. 
I keep the Aegon. 

717
00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:06,760
Face, Yeah. 
When did she run that? 

718
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:13,880
She ran a 157 some .68800 meters
and I think it was in, I don't 

719
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,440
know, some, some point in 
September of of 2020, but. 

720
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,000
That was the year everyone was 
racing to avoid reductions in 

721
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,240
their contract. 
That's why they had those random

722
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,440
meats popping up here and there.
So no, that's a good one. 

723
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,800
Mac, are you on the the femka 
train now as like in terms of 

724
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,120
just her 800 meter potential? 
Yeah, I don't, I don't think I 

725
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680
was ever not on it. 
I'm just checking. 

726
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,640
Seems like both her and Sydney 
were like, all right, we're done

727
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,480
with this event. 
Like let's go, let's go to some 

728
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,600
some more exciting ones. 
They kind of just, I don't know,

729
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,480
they got everything out of it, 
out of the the 400 meter hurdles

730
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,720
as as they could have gotten. 
OK, so that brings me to a very 

731
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:02,040
crazy question, which I know 
what your answer probably would 

732
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,440
be because an Olympic gold is an
Olympic gold and you get to call

733
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,240
yourself an Olympic champion for
the rest of your life. 

734
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:14,240
But I guess like, do you think 
it's more fulfilling to if 

735
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:21,640
you're Femca Bowl to take on 
this new event and potentially 

736
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:28,000
make the final at La 2028? 
And who knows how fast that 

737
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,080
final is, maybe say it's one in 
154, right? 

738
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,200
And you run 155. 
But at some point in season 

739
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,600
you've you've run 153. 
You made this transformation in 

740
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,720
two years. 
Is that more fulfilling than 

741
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,800
winning Olympic gold in a week? 
400 hurdles? 

742
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,160
That probably ends up getting 
one in 51 or something like 

743
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,560
that. 
You know who just had a great 

744
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,480
answer to a question similar to 
that? 

745
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,960
Was Sage hurt a clucker talking 
to Drew Hunter? 

746
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Because Sage used to be a 
steepler. 

747
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,400
And he asked her like, basically
why? 

748
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,760
Like, why'd you switch to the 
800? 

749
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,520
And she was like, well, I was 
running the steeples and then I 

750
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,800
was at these meets and I was 
just always wondering, like, 

751
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400
what does that feel like? 
Like that looks more fun, That 

752
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:25,200
looks more interesting and those
events are were just more 

753
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,440
exciting to her. 
And at the end of the day, if 

754
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,240
you're going to be running twice
a day every single day of the 

755
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,440
year and you have these like 
dreams and aspirations, but you 

756
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960
have you have to be emotionally 
invested in the events that 

757
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,360
you're competing in. 
You have to like the event that 

758
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,320
you're in that has to excite you
in some way that isn't that that

759
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,800
isn't boring. 
And I think that's kind of what 

760
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,360
we're seeing with Femka in this 
800 is just like she's she's 

761
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,760
done the foreign hurdles. 
It's not that exciting to her 

762
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,400
anymore. 
And what excites her is moving 

763
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,680
to this new event. 
And that's what's going to be 

764
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:03,000
that exciting motivation, you 
know, driven event in practice. 

765
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Like you have to be motivated in
practice. 

766
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,880
It can't just be the race day. 
So yeah, I think that that's 

767
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520
that's just it's. 
Definitely more fulfilling for 

768
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,880
Femka. 
Like that's clear that her going

769
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,920
on this is very worthwhile and 
exciting to her. 

770
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,800
But it's so it's kind of crazy 
because I guess the point I'm 

771
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,840
trying to make is that there are
very few people who would take 

772
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,520
that side of a deal where it's 
like either win a week event, 

773
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,760
Olympic gold medal or finish, I 
don't know, off the podium 4th 

774
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:39,080
in a much more competitive, 
exciting event. 

775
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,200
I think that that's where that 
point, OOO, 1% of people are 

776
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,280
different. 
She is one of like she's a 

777
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,120
champion. 
She's like, she's one of those 

778
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,680
few athletes and I'm talking 
like, there's like in 

779
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,720
professional running, there's 
like maybe maybe 10 of these 

780
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:56,400
people. 
Yeah, I don't know who else. 

781
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,400
Would take a deal at this 
decision yeah, there's there's 

782
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,120
not not very many of these 
people that would make a 

783
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,360
decision like that. 
There's not many people on earth

784
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,360
that are like that. 
And I think that just it makes 

785
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,200
her special and how rewarding is
it to her and how exciting is it

786
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,800
to see this improvement so 
quickly? 

787
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,160
You know, she's she's seeing 
every single time out. 

788
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,600
She's improving. 
She's learning. 

789
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,000
I am so excited to see how she 
races in this championship races

790
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,960
and like what is she going to do
in her first marry Maura and Da 

791
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Guma prelim? 
You know where they're just like

792
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,400
every 10 meters, they're 
sprinting, stopping, sprinting, 

793
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,080
stopping and and does her stride
length in a pack. 

794
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,360
Is that going to affect how 
she's racing against these 

795
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,800
people? 
Like is, you know, we saw how a 

796
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,160
thing MO did in slow races that 
was, you know, it got scary and 

797
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,720
she got tripped up frequently 
and, and Femka's a similar size 

798
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,400
and stride length to that. 
So I'm, I'm, I'm so excited for 

799
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,920
that part of it. 
These diamond leagues are easy 

800
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,600
for her 'cause it's just like, 
all right, it's a fitness test. 

801
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,000
It's clear running. 
Let's just run in lane one as 

802
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:02,040
fast as you can for 800 meters. 
Once we get into these like 

803
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,440
championship races where it's 
not all out all the time, it's 

804
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,320
going to be really fun. 
What do you think of that 

805
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,800
ridiculous deal of like, pass on
an Olympic gold to finish 

806
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,880
fourth? 
You know, create in a crazy 

807
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,280
competitive event. 
I mean, I, well, I think the 

808
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,680
reality is for Femker, I don't 
think it's that deal because I 

809
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,040
think they would have tried it 
this year and if it wasn't 

810
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,920
successful, they had two years 
to go to go back to 400 adults, 

811
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,000
right? 
So I don't think, albeit Femker 

812
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
said that it was a permanent 
transition, like the reality is 

813
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,360
if she'd been terrible, like she
wouldn't have stuck around, 

814
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,040
right? 
I don't think so. 

815
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,960
I think that that that's one 
thing and it's interesting 

816
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,360
actually, because I think in any
event, right, like we've seen, 

817
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,120
well, just read Kyle's article 
in the lap count last week on 

818
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,880
Emma's a Pesolova and you know 
what she can be doing. 

819
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,520
She obviously promptly obviously
read Kyle's articles like don't 

820
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,040
put that much pressure on Ian, 
laid an absolute egg in a race 

821
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,400
in inside grab and came fifth 
and no one realised she was in 

822
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,320
the race. 
But you know, like, yeah, people

823
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,720
always come through, right? 
So I think any event and we're 

824
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,040
in, we're in an area of track 
and field where I think we're 

825
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,560
finding that people, no one is 
able to dominate for like a 

826
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,040
really long period of time. 
It does seem to be that in 

827
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,600
almost every event, like every 
year, the people change and the 

828
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,880
people at the top and the people
competing for medals, that the 

829
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,640
depth is probably greater than 
we've ever seen before. 

830
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,440
So I, I think there's risk in 
whatever event, even if you stay

831
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,040
in an event you're amazing at 
now. 

832
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Yeah, I agree. 
The deal, the deal is a tough 

833
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,440
one, right? 
If you are like saying 

834
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,120
genuinely, that's the deal. 
But I do think these people are 

835
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,400
competitors, right? 
And in genuine, genuinely, the 

836
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,240
thing that gets the best out of 
them is competition. 

837
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,280
And if you have no competition, 
right, at some point it becomes 

838
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,800
boring, right? 
I think even Grant Holloway was 

839
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,720
before he got injured, was 
planning to run the flat 60 

840
00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,480
indoors last year, right? 
And he was, you know, he was 

841
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,000
like, I don't want to run more 
sixty hurdles where I win every 

842
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,800
single race, right? 
I want to try something a bit 

843
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,520
different, see how it goes, 
right? 

844
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,560
And I think that is so I think 
anyone has that like right. 

845
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,520
Benjamin is trying the 400 this 
year, although it looks like 

846
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,160
he's been a bit injured because 
he's come out of, you know, he's

847
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:23,680
dropped out of a few races. 
But like, you know, we, we, I 

848
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,720
think these guys are just 
ultimately they are like to be 

849
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,240
at that level in any sport, you 
have to be the ultimate 

850
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:31,120
competitor. 
And I think these guys will 

851
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,560
always take that deal of let put
me in, put me in the best race, 

852
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,480
put me in in the most 
competitive event. 

853
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:44,080
It's very cool to see. 
All right, let's move on to some

854
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,560
other events that took place in 
Paris. 

855
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,320
Next big one I want to highlight
Grant Fisher finally gets his 

856
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,080
Diamond League victory. 
This is something that he's been

857
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,280
chasing for a while. 
I think. 

858
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,840
What was it? 
4 second place finishes? 

859
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:03,480
I pulled it up for a tweet 
yesterday and like another four 

860
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:07,680
or three third place finishes in
the past when he's gotten to to 

861
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,120
the Diamond League, but this 
time around wins the Paris 

862
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:15,880
Diamond League 5K1254, edging 
out Jacob Krop and Andreas 

863
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,320
Almgren kicked in that final 150
meters, 10 athletes broke 13 

864
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,800
minutes. 
It was paced for the European 

865
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,680
record and only one guy who was 
I think France's Etienne 

866
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:33,200
Dauguinos, followed and burned 
out and DNF D. 

867
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,760
But then from there, a really 
solid and exciting race played 

868
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:42,880
out where Grant was in fourth 
place with like less than 200 

869
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,800
meters to go. 
Not necessarily where you'd want

870
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,480
to be. 
But then he swung wide off of 

871
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:53,120
that final turn, outsprinted 
Jacob Kropp, and he closed the 

872
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,440
last 200 meters and 26 three, 
the last 112 seven, and finally 

873
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,920
got his Diamond League victory. 
This is the fifth Diamond League

874
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,560
victory by an American man in 
2026. 

875
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,840
That's, you know, never happened
before. 

876
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,920
I think in the past the most was
what, 4 in the but now you've 

877
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:17,720
got 2 by yard, 2 by Cooper and 
one by Grant Fisher. 

878
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,480
And maybe we, you know, who 
knows if there's more to come at

879
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,720
the Pre Classic and some of 
these other meets later on this 

880
00:49:23,720 --> 00:49:26,160
season. 
And I think the big narrative 

881
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,960
around Grant in this performance
was like, oh, Grant Fisher is 

882
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,120
back. 
And the way I was kind of 

883
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,280
thinking about it was like, I 
don't know if necessarily like, 

884
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,200
it's that big of a oh, he's 
back. 

885
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:44,640
He did overall have a really 
good 2025 campaign, all things 

886
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,720
considered. 
In Kingston, you know, he won a 

887
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:53,360
slow race but closed in 51 hot 
conditions in Miami, wins 

888
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,520
another, I think 5K race there 
by 6 seconds. 

889
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,520
He clocked a mile personal best 
at the Pre Classic, was second 

890
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,440
in the 5K and the 10K at the US 
Championships last year, where 

891
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,920
he lost to one guy who won the 
World Championships in Cole 

892
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,720
Hawker and another guy who won 
the Oslo Diamond League in Nico 

893
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,600
Young. 
And then after that, if you look

894
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,560
at the Diamond League 
performances, he was also just 

895
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,840
like just shy of the victory in 
Lausanne. 

896
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:27,120
And so all things considered, 
it's sort of like Grant never 

897
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,640
really faded or disappeared. 
It's just sort of, I think 

898
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,560
there's a big emphasis put on 
the World Championships where he

899
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,240
didn't have as good of a 
performance. 

900
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:38,280
And then with this, you know, 
first Rhodes experiment that he 

901
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,240
had with going to the half 
marathon, that not going well, 

902
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,560
maybe that sort of clouded 
people's thinking. 

903
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,680
But I think what this maybe ends
up telling so or signaling to 

904
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,680
someone like Grant is like, 
we're pretty sure this he's 

905
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,640
going to stick it out in the 10K
through 2028. 

906
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,640
The 10K is going to be, is, is 
his better event, the 5K, 

907
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,600
especially with, you know, the 
younger names that are coming 

908
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:08,240
up, the likes of a Parker Wolf, 
Nico Young, Graham Blancs, like 

909
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,240
that's already 3 names. 
And there's probably more more 

910
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:15,920
to come. 
It's, you know, I, it's just a 

911
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:21,160
question of is he going to try 
and to the 10K marathon double 

912
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440
in, in, in LA. 
But for, for now, I think what 

913
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,920
I, what I took away from this 
performance, it was great that 

914
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,200
he, you know, was able to 
finally get a Diamond League 

915
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:33,040
victory in the 5K. 
His strengths definitely point 

916
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,160
towards the 10K being his best 
event. 

917
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,960
These wins don't necessarily 
come around all that easy, and 

918
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,640
there's just tons to be excited 
about that. 

919
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,240
You know, for as much as people 
were trying to push Grant to the

920
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,920
roads, now he just kind of 
reaffirmed to people's like, no,

921
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,760
he's still got it to, you know, 
be one of the best on the track.

922
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:56,320
Preet. 
Yeah, I mean, I think Grant, 

923
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,960
like he was clearly so happy in 
his interview. 

924
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,960
So he was. 
Have clocked a Diamond League 

925
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:08,320
win and I think it's, you know, 
I think it's really yeah, you're

926
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,000
right. 
It doesn't necessarily translate

927
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,360
to championship race like these 
these kind of Diamond Leagues at

928
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,440
12:55, like getting win. 
It's a good thing to be doing, 

929
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,800
but it doesn't necessarily mean 
anything in the context of a 

930
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,840
championship race. 
You know, I I think, you know, 

931
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,640
you're going to have the likes 
of a Coho Curry, Yakubin Inger 

932
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,480
Brits in the 1500 guys coming up
who probably have better closing

933
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,840
speed when it comes to those 
championship races if it's slow 

934
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,160
enough for them, right? 
And I mean, to be honest, like, 

935
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,280
it doesn't need to be that slow 
for the likes of a Hawker and in

936
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,680
Britain as well. 
So I think you don't you, you 

937
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,560
never know how championship race
is going to play out. 

938
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,960
And obviously at the Olympics, 
he was in the right space to to 

939
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:51,880
kick for a medal. 
And I think, yeah, the 10K is 

940
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,960
definitely where it's at because
so many of the top African 

941
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,440
runners are probably heading to 
the roads earlier than than they

942
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,320
might otherwise. 
You know, Kajuch has gone, 

943
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,960
Chapter Guy's gone and Kaplimo's
gone and and you know, I even 

944
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,520
though there might be more 
coming through, I think a lot 

945
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,720
more people are going to the 
roads sooner because they've 

946
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:13,640
also seen going to the roads 
younger pace, right? 

947
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,120
So I think there is all of that,
which means that the 10K is 

948
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:24,480
probably a bit more open and it 
may well stay that way going 

949
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,560
going into LA. 
But obviously Grant's also got 

950
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,600
the other issue of making a team
and we don't know. 

951
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Is Hampton Samuel going to be in
in the mix by then? 

952
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,200
Is he going to be a U.S. 
citizen? 

953
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,800
We don't know. 
But like, there's others, other 

954
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,040
people and there's obviously 
other people coming through that

955
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,440
that could be a threat on that 
10K scene. 

956
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,200
So I, I, yeah, we, we don't 
know. 

957
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,240
It's a that that's always the 
challenge, right, If you're 

958
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:51,560
American. 
But Grant Fisher, like in this 

959
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:55,280
Diamond League, he, it worked 
out as a race that played 

960
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,120
relatively to his strengths. 
And it's good to see him have 

961
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,120
that sharpness back again, which
he kind of lost towards the back

962
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:06,800
end of last season, obviously 
going into Tokyo, and it's good 

963
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,360
to see him have that back. 
Uncomfortable. 

964
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Dude, congratulations. 
That's a hell of a race to win. 

965
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,800
Yeah, dude, that was fine. 
I mean, yeah, no. 

966
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,760
Diamond League is easy, and this
one is a loaded one. 

967
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,520
I've never won one before. 
So was it your first? 

968
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,120
Yeah, I've been close, but I 
know one of you. 

969
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,120
Smile inside. 
I'm really happy. 

970
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,600
Yeah. 
That was a stack field. 

971
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,840
Crowd was fantastic. 
And some days you just have good

972
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,680
legs. 
And I had good legs. 

973
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,360
When did you feel it? 
When did you know you had good 

974
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,240
legs? 
Because there's got to be a 

975
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:33,600
point in a 5K where it's either 
my legs feel like shit or they 

976
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,400
feel good. 
You usually know pretty early, 

977
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,600
man. 
It's like you get to like a mile

978
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,120
in and you're either like, I 
don't know if I'm going to make 

979
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,400
it or you're like, it doesn't 
feel like we're at a mile yet. 

980
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,560
Like that's how good I feel. 
And by about maybe a mile to go,

981
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,120
I was like, all right, I'm still
like I'm I'm hurting, but it's 

982
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,320
manageable and I know I'm going 
to be able to kick at the end. 

983
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,400
So it worked out really well. 
We kind of wound the pace up and

984
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,000
yeah, I just felt good. 
I raced 2 weeks ago and I, my 

985
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,840
legs felt kind of flat. 
So I'm really happy with how my 

986
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,040
legs felt today. 
I was going to say, you've been 

987
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:08,880
active in Europe. 
It feels like, like you've been 

988
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,160
really willing to race and put 
yourself in a lot of things. 

989
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,840
Not that you don't do that in 
years gone by, but this year in 

990
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,320
particular, it's really kind of 
stood out. 

991
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,120
Yeah. 
Well, we Americans have a bit of

992
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,200
a off year, an off year, a true 
off year because we don't have 

993
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,440
calm games, we don't have 
European Championships, we have 

994
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,400
Usas, but they don't qualify you
for anything. 

995
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:31,800
So yeah, it's kind of a free 
year to go and race and yeah, 

996
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,080
just check the fitness. 
You know, if in usual years you 

997
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,280
have worlds or the Olympics 
hanging over your head all year 

998
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,880
long and you're kind of focused 
on that in the background the 

999
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,440
whole time. 
So you're hesitant to like go to

1000
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,440
every Diamond League or race, 
every race. 

1001
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,600
And this year I don't have that 
kind of on my shoulder. 

1002
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,240
So can take a bit more risk and 
training and see what happens 

1003
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,120
and you know, if by the time the
year gets to an end, if I'm 

1004
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,960
really tired, it is what it is. 
Whereas in most years, I still 

1005
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,040
want to be feeling pretty good 
by the last meet because that's 

1006
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,200
the most important one. 
Has it been a weird adjustment 

1007
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,760
for you? 
Because like, you are a guy 

1008
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,800
who's meddled at the Olympics, 
world champs, like you seem to 

1009
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,920
thrive in the years where 
there's something really big to 

1010
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,480
hold on to. 
But for the off year, did it 

1011
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,360
take a little bit of adjusting 
or have you just enjoyed it? 

1012
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,160
I've just enjoyed it, man. 
Yeah. 

1013
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,280
Tried some new distances. 
I raced a 2K indoors. 

1014
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,400
I raced 1/2 marathon in the 
winter, doing more three KS and 

1015
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,200
five KS now and it's fun because
there's no pressure. 

1016
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,000
You know, this is like since 
I've gone pro, besides the weird

1017
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,480
COVID year, I haven't really had
a non championship global 

1018
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,920
championship year. 
So it's been fun. 

1019
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:35,920
I'm still going to do USA. 
Some people aren't doing it 

1020
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,640
because it, you know, it doesn't
qualify you this year, but I'm 

1021
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,880
still going to do it. 
It's US champs and yeah, I just.

1022
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:42,920
Want to race and have fun this 
year? 

1023
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,400
Hell yeah dude. 
Looked like you had a lot of fun

1024
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,800
out there. 
I had no idea it was your first 

1025
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,560
win. 
Congratulations and more to 

1026
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:48,160
come. 
Thanks dude. 

1027
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,720
Appreciate that. 
It's sort of when you look at 

1028
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:55,200
him and look at the people who 
are around him, it's very cool 

1029
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,560
that Grant's able to tap into 
this kick at it at the end of 

1030
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,640
the races where you look at, all
right, someone like Cole Hawker,

1031
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,920
'cause we haven't seen him run a
10K. 

1032
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,320
He's definitely got just sort of
that 1500 meter specialist into 

1033
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,040
5K speed. 
And when you look at someone 

1034
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,520
like Grand Blanks, he's 
definitely more suited to the 

1035
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,320
longer stuff and the way he's 
been trying at these diamond 

1036
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,000
legs to pull it from from the 
front. 

1037
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,360
Whereas Grant's got a little bit
of that hybrid mix. 

1038
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,920
All of that points to him being 
probably very, very, very good, 

1039
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,520
which we've seen and backed by 
an Olympic medal in in the 10K. 

1040
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,680
And so I think a tight a take 
away from this is that he's 

1041
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,880
going to stick with this at at 
least the 10K through 2028. 

1042
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,520
Mack, what did you think of 
Grant's run? 

1043
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,720
Yeah, it's great to see him get 
finally get a Diamond League win

1044
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:52,200
after, you know, I don't want to
say such a long career already, 

1045
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,120
but you know, he he's been at 
this level for a while now and 

1046
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,360
he's had a lot of Diamond League
attempts. 

1047
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,600
He runs more Diamond Leagues 
than a lot of other Americans. 

1048
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
So it's awesome to finally see 
him get a win. 

1049
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,680
And yeah, this is like this is 
his sweet spot, you know, a mid 

1050
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,880
1250s race. 
He's run faster this year, 

1051
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,680
obviously over 5000 meters just 
a few weeks ago already. 

1052
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:17,240
But he was fifth right in in 
Oslo running 1249. 

1053
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,920
So to see him get a win running 
1254, he's obviously progressing

1054
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,680
a little bit, even though that's
slower. 

1055
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:27,600
He's progressing because he won.
Yeah, it's just cool to see. 

1056
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,920
And I'm I'm happy that we're 
he's kind of getting some, you 

1057
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,040
know, positive reinforcement 
that he should stay on the 

1058
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:37,920
track. 
Kyle is the, you know, he's our 

1059
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,120
move up guy, you know the. 
King of move up. 

1060
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,640
Yeah, the king of move up. 
If it were up to Kyle, everyone 

1061
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:48,080
would be running ultras by now 
just because there's that's the 

1062
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,200
only place to move up to. 
But no, I like people. 

1063
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,000
I like people staying in in 
their event a little bit longer.

1064
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,840
The odds of and just 
realistically, the odds of him 

1065
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,720
being better on the roads are is
just not very high. 

1066
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,560
You know, You're telling me that
he's going to get a medal in the

1067
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,440
marathon in LA Probably not. 
He's got a better chances of 

1068
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,240
meddling again on the track. 
So that's where I want to see 

1069
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,040
him compete because that's where
he's most competitive. 

1070
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:20,400
And yeah, it's it's it's just 
sweet to see Love Grant huge 

1071
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,000
fan. 
And yeah, he had a he had a 

1072
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,200
fantastic last 100 stayed in it 
stayed engaged over the over the

1073
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,240
final mile. 
And yeah, I I'm pumped. 

1074
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:33,160
I'm just like as a fan, excited 
where where the Americans are in

1075
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,680
the five and the 10. 
I was just thinking from the 

1076
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,280
transitive property is how many 
times he's beaten, I guess Yomi 

1077
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,400
Kajalcha and he's a sub two guy.
And so then what does that mean 

1078
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,080
for for for Grant And how does 
it translate to the marathon? 

1079
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,920
But it's not, we've learned, I 
guess, a direct 1 to 1 

1080
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,640
correlation of track success to 
to the marathon. 

1081
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,480
But anyway, Grant. 
Fisher Grant, Grant. 

1082
00:59:54,680 --> 01:00:00,040
Grant could pace Kajalcha 
through half, maybe run. 

1083
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:01,880
Run 60 minutes. 
Yeah. 

1084
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,760
And then good luck. 
Good luck over your last 13 

1085
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,400
miles. 
We've seen him go. 

1086
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,440
It's a different game. 
Do it again. 

1087
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:16,320
All right, next event is the 
let's go to the we. 

1088
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,040
We talked a lot about the 
women's 800. 

1089
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,840
Let's touch on the men's 800. 
I want to save Kim Myers for a 

1090
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,640
little bit. 
Marco Rope, For a second here I 

1091
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,760
thought the world record was 
going to fall because he he 

1092
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,280
looked really, really damn good.
And he ends up running. 

1093
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:41,560
What was it, 1141? 
What was it exactly? 

1094
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,720
The the results can can I get a 
a second? 

1095
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,440
84, yeah. 
The results sheet on the diamond

1096
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,160
link side is down. 
It's gone. 

1097
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,280
It's disappeared. 
Yeah. 

1098
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:50,880
I'm now looking at the Wild 
Athletics 1. 

1099
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:57,120
Yeah, 14184 world leading time 
first man under 142 this season 

1100
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:07,280
and his splits were 24725 three 
twenty 49269 commanding victory 

1101
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,320
gapped the whole entire field 
pretty early on. 

1102
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,360
And the cool part is that I 
guess in the interviews 

1103
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:18,720
afterwards is that he he said he
wasn't 100% since last July. 

1104
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,440
And now he's finally starting to
feel good. 

1105
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:26,000
And he did say he intends to go 
after the world record this 

1106
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
year. 
Clearly, he's he thinks he's in 

1107
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,240
shape for it. 
I don't think you need to 

1108
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:35,160
necessarily ask the Wenyonis, 
the Marco ropes of the world. 

1109
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,120
It's like, are you going after 
the world record at this point? 

1110
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,320
Like it's going to go at some 
point. 

1111
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:45,240
And similarly to Wearo, you 
know, he didn't, he did this 

1112
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,040
thing, whole thing entirely by 
himself. 

1113
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,240
And it's hard to kind of like 
nitpick as to like what were the

1114
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,800
areas of improvement aside from 
holding on and closing 'cause 

1115
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,280
that, you know, final 200 was 
the slowest, But it's naturally 

1116
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,360
going to happen when you're 
going out as hard as as he is. 

1117
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:11,760
But yeah, I mean, he's getting 
his PR is 141.2, which is .29 

1118
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,200
off of Rhodesia's 14091. 
We've still got a ways to go 

1119
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:20,960
there, but All in all, loved 
seeing just this commanding 

1120
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:25,400
victory by Marco Pre. 
Yeah, I mean it. 

1121
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,440
It you know, we love Marco's the
nicest guy in in track and 

1122
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,280
field. 
And did you see when they were 

1123
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,160
like, bowing down, like trying 
to bow down to him? 

1124
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,240
Afterwards, he kind of like, 
yeah, yeah, yeah, Pat no, Ben, 

1125
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Pat Ben Patterson basically went
went up and bowed down to him, 

1126
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,760
which is which is pretty cool. 
But you know, like, yeah, he's 

1127
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,480
he obviously had a point to 
prove having been beaten by 

1128
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:49,280
Cooper Look and House twice. 
And, you know, he went out there

1129
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,680
and and and showed how good he 
is, right. 

1130
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:57,160
And it, you know, it can be easy
to forget because he like the 

1131
01:02:57,160 --> 01:03:00,000
tail end of last season hadn't 
been quite so good. 

1132
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,080
And obviously the start of this 
season as well of getting beaten

1133
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,360
twice, even though, you know, 
those those are fast races. 

1134
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:10,080
And we know that Marco's a guy 
who peaks as the season goes on.

1135
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,720
So last year, I don't think we 
got to see the best of him 

1136
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:16,400
because obviously he, he, he 
must have had that, that niggle 

1137
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,680
halfway through the season or 
that injury whilst, you know, 

1138
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:22,680
this season, if he stays 
healthy, he's not doing 

1139
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,880
Commonwealth Games and he is 
focusing on, on maybe trying to 

1140
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,520
trying to improve this time. 
So he said he was in world 

1141
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,520
record fitness last year, but he
just didn't get the chance to, 

1142
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,160
to show it. 
And yeah, let's, let's see what,

1143
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,440
what he can do. 
And I mean obviously when your 

1144
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:42,760
knees disappeared a little bit 
the last few weeks, so. 

1145
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,920
Interesting. 
I know, yeah. 

1146
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:46,440
So we'll give him a bit of 
great. 

1147
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,160
I mean, he came back and raced 
in in Oslo a few days later. 

1148
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,800
So he did, he did. 
He did come back and race. 

1149
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,040
And then he. 
Lost to a baby? 

1150
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,520
He lost to a baby. 
So yeah, maybe he's like, OK, I 

1151
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,840
need to spend a bit more time 
with a baby and figure out how 

1152
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,920
to how to take control of 
babies. 

1153
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:06,080
But no, he's like, I mean, I 
think it'll be good to see, see,

1154
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:09,320
see when you're new back on 
circuit soon as well and and see

1155
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,320
what they can push each other to
and and see how it goes. 

1156
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,240
Dude, you're already quick to 
smile again. 

1157
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,400
I mean, this comes up every 
time, but 141 you've got to be 

1158
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:20,760
chopped. 
Yeah, that was incredible. 

1159
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,520
I mean, coming in, I kind of 
expected like a 142 and yeah, 

1160
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,840
still wanted to push it. 
You know, I saw the conditions 

1161
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,560
were great today, the fans came 
out and I just wanted to put on 

1162
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,160
the show. 
Now, were there any nerves when 

1163
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:35,040
you saw the heat wave in France?
You Canadians, you know you're 

1164
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,040
not ready for that car. 
I trained in the states, in 

1165
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Mississippi. 
So we're used to. 

1166
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,800
This Oh, you're fine. 
The only thing is we have air 

1167
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,040
conditioning back home, so. 
That's something, yeah. 

1168
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,600
It's been hard to sleep. 
I mean, I've been. 

1169
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,080
Struggling here, drenched in 
sweat all night long. 

1170
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,160
But you know, we're used to the 
heat. 

1171
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,240
As long as we hydrate, do 
everything we need to do, we're 

1172
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,320
good. 
You'd be one of the guys that I 

1173
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:54,960
would find when you're at the 
front of a race, you actually 

1174
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,960
love front running. 
Yeah, you managed to stretch 

1175
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,080
that field. 
It's such a confident. 

1176
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,520
Part, I mean, from what I heard,
like there was a lot of jostling

1177
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,000
in the pack and I think that's 
one of the best things. 

1178
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,040
Sorry about running. 
Hey, good race. 

1179
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,560
One of the best things about 
running in front is not having 

1180
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:12,240
to worry about other bodies and 
have a clear path ahead of you. 

1181
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,240
Your stride doesn't break. 
I love that. 

1182
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,600
Yeah, you're running yourself 
into some serious form. 

1183
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,440
I mean, obviously you went up 
against Cooper, just got done 

1184
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,960
there, but now clear winner 
here. 

1185
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,320
That's going to do your 
confidence a world of. 

1186
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,080
Good. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1187
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,520
I mean, it was it was nice 
racing him, seeing what I'm 

1188
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,520
going to have to bring, you 
know, for the rest of the 

1189
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,520
season. 
Wanione is always in great form 

1190
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,960
so just excited for. 
What's to come? 

1191
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,080
We got con games on the cards. 
You know, I don't. 

1192
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,400
I thought it was just too many 
races this season and I want to 

1193
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:39,960
finish the end of the season 
strong. 

1194
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,000
I haven't had a really good 
Diamond League final and still 

1195
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,280
kind of recovering from that 
injury, so I think if I can just

1196
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,520
train for a good five weeks that
would be amazing way to finish 

1197
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,640
the season. 
Love that. 

1198
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:53,680
What do you think you've got in 
you time wise this year? 

1199
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,200
I mean, you're running 141 eight
early. 

1200
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,760
This is encouraging. 
Yeah, You know, last year I 

1201
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,680
thought I was in like sub world 
record shape but got dealt an 

1202
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,640
injury at the worst time. 
So I'm hoping to just get back 

1203
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,800
to that sort of form and today 
was a good sign. 

1204
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,240
I think I'm getting getting back
there again. 

1205
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,760
I would dare say so. 
Marco, go enjoy. 

1206
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,560
Good luck finding some air con. 
I don't think you're going to 

1207
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:14,920
have any luck. 
That's all right. 

1208
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,160
Well done. 
Thank you so much. 

1209
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,480
You know who's missing? 
Who the Hell's Sajadi? 

1210
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,360
He's just pulled out the Pre 
Classic as well, so he was due 

1211
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,560
to be racing next week at Pre or
this Friday or Saturday at Pre. 

1212
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,320
And yeah, he has now scratched 
from that race as well. 

1213
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:35,440
So maybe he is injured or he has
not raced since his silver medal

1214
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,240
at Wells last year. 
You know when people like, start

1215
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,440
to ring the alarm when someone 
hasn't made an Instagram post 

1216
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,600
for like a couple of days? 
Like where's the outcry over 

1217
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:48,680
this guy missing? 
I mean, even last year though he

1218
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,320
was, he was pretty absent the 
early part of the season last 

1219
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,840
year when he only sort of 
emerged at the late late in the 

1220
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,120
season last year. 
Shades of Taufik Mcclufi over 

1221
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,280
here. 
No, People get hurt. 

1222
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,440
People get hurt. 
Mcclufi would just disappear and

1223
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,800
not show up until the 
championship. 

1224
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:10,280
Yeah, he would just go home and 
sit in a sauna for six months 

1225
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,560
and then come back out in 328 
shape. 

1226
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:13,880
Yeah, sure. 
That was it. 

1227
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,120
The other thing that from this 
race that I kind of it kind of 

1228
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:23,480
gets lost in watching Marcos 
Niels Laros finishing second in 

1229
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:29,040
1143.6. 
And he also I think was he was 

1230
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,640
pissed at the finish line. 
And I think that's only partly 

1231
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:37,600
because he missed the Dutch 
national record of 143.45, but 

1232
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:41,480
just the tiniest of margins, 
which was that one was set by 

1233
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,960
Bram Somm back in the day. 
Haven't heard that name in a 

1234
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,880
while. 
But Laros now one is in 143 

1235
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,680
shape. 
He was supposed to run the 1500 

1236
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,520
at this meet and then switched 
at the last minute to the 800. 

1237
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,360
I kind of like it 'cause it 
doesn't show his cards before he

1238
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:03,040
takes on the Bowerman Mile next 
week, which is shaping up to be 

1239
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,680
an absolute banger. 
And. 

1240
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,480
We'll touch on, we'll touch on 
Cam Myers in a second, but. 

1241
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,200
The meat is. 
Fully back at this point. 

1242
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,479
Let's see, the meat directors 
probably kicked him out of the 

1243
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:21,560
15 field to put that 600 meter 
rabbit in, he said. 

1244
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,000
Ah, sorry, Laros, you got to run
the eight. 

1245
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:28,960
We need this rabbit to go 600 
meters in a 1500 all out. 

1246
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,200
It's absolutely ridiculous. 
No, I I love I love him running 

1247
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,600
the eight. 
I think it it sets it up, sets 

1248
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,520
himself up well for this, this 
pre classic Berman Mile. 

1249
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,520
Yeah, pre, I guess like when 
Laros was pissed at the end, 

1250
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,000
that's probably what it was, 
right? 

1251
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:47,319
It was just that he pissed the 
National. 

1252
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,520
He's not and he's not going to 
run that many more 8 hundreds 

1253
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,479
this year probably At this point
you shift back to the 1500 mile.

1254
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,319
Who? 
Knows, right, Because actually 

1255
01:08:56,319 --> 01:09:00,160
it's quite interesting like he 
obviously he was injured in the 

1256
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,479
5000 meters at the World 
Championships last year. 

1257
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,160
He stepped off the track. 
We hadn't seen him since until 

1258
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:10,800
he opened the season in Hanglo 
last week where he ran 143 eight

1259
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:15,240
and then backed it up by 
improving TO1436 Here there is 

1260
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,680
obviously that question of when 
did he start training again? 

1261
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:22,840
Is he doing 8 hundreds because 
he hasn't had as much base 

1262
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:26,880
training and and you know to run
a 328 race would have been maybe

1263
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,359
a bit much at this point in his 
season. 

1264
01:09:29,359 --> 01:09:31,600
I don't know. 
So that's something we I guess 

1265
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,120
we will hopefully find out next 
week at the pre classic. 

1266
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:41,359
But if he is in, you know, good 
1500 mile shape as well, then 

1267
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,840
yeah, that that Andrew speed 
means he is exceedingly 

1268
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,279
dangerous. 
And we know he's a guy you can 

1269
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:50,680
run 143 and he can run 1310 
right? 

1270
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,080
Over 5K. 
So that's bananas, right? 

1271
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,520
I think, I think David was 
looking for the stats right on. 

1272
01:09:55,720 --> 01:10:01,480
Are there any guys who've run 
just sub 145, sub 330 and sub 

1273
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,160
13? 
And there are two, right? 

1274
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,880
And so it's it's not easy. 
And like he probably can run sub

1275
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:11,960
13 in the 5K if he puts his mind
to it, given he's already at 

1276
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:18,880
1310. 
So yeah, I think he is like he 

1277
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,320
is an insane threat if he if he 
is healthy and going into the 

1278
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,320
rest of the the season. 
And yeah, it will be intriguing 

1279
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:31,400
to see what he decides to do at 
Europeans as well, because yeah,

1280
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,440
he could do the 800. 
I do think the 800's actually 

1281
01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:37,440
really wide open because Max 
Bergen has gone AWOL. 

1282
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,200
He appears to have picked up a 
niggle. 

1283
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,400
He pulled out a British Champs. 
So we'll have to see if he turns

1284
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,600
up at London Diamond League in a
couple of weeks because 

1285
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,520
otherwise there is no clear 
favorite for the European men's 

1286
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,560
800. 
And Laros, if he entered that 

1287
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,360
field, would probably be the 
favorite was the 15. 

1288
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,480
There's a lot more people in it.
Obviously there is the world 

1289
01:11:01,480 --> 01:11:03,600
champion, Isaac Nader and a 
whole bunch of other guys. 

1290
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,360
So there's Jake Whiteman, you 
know, there's, there's a lot of 

1291
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,200
guys in that 15 fields, so. 
For Europeans, yeah. 

1292
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,040
Josh Kerr too, right? 
Or was he not named? 

1293
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:17,000
No, Josh, Josh has not has said 
he at the moment he's not doing 

1294
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,120
it, but I guess he's going to 
see how Commonwealth 

1295
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,320
Commonwealth go. 
He's he's focused on the Marvel 

1296
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,560
record and then the mile at the 
Commonwealth Games. 

1297
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,520
Jake Whiteman has been announced
for the mile as well at the 

1298
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:33,080
Commonwealth Games. 
So that with Cam Myers will come

1299
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:34,760
on to it's shaping up to be 
amazing. 

1300
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,520
But yes, he has at this moment, 
he said he's not doing Europeans

1301
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:42,400
as far as we know, but he may, 
yeah. 

1302
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,080
I don't really know how that's 
going to shake out. 

1303
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:47,080
Here's are are you going to move
on? 

1304
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,680
Oh, just back to Marco. 
One last thing for here's a 

1305
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,840
little pro tip for people 
watching these races. 

1306
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,560
If you ever see Marco in in lane
8 and the rabbit is on the 

1307
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,840
inside of him and he's sharing a
lane, he is going to get after 

1308
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:01,080
it like this. 
It's all on purpose. 

1309
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,080
He's the big dog in this race, 
so he gets he gets preferential 

1310
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,320
treatment. 
He's on the outside of the 

1311
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,320
rabbit, so the rabbit doesn't 
cross him up when they get out 

1312
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,400
of the break and that way he can
slot right in the rest of the 

1313
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,960
field knows that Marco's going 
to go with the pace because he 

1314
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,680
requested it. 
So you can kind of tell if he 

1315
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,440
and that's the obviously saw it 
like he absolutely ripped the 

1316
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:25,240
1st 600 of this. 
And we're really fortunate he 

1317
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:31,000
didn't get tripped up by Moolah 
at at 200 in because he did 

1318
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:34,760
crossover and and there was a he
had a, I don't want to say a 

1319
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,720
huge stumble, but he was was 
certainly tripped. 

1320
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,640
So we almost missed out on this 
one. 

1321
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,400
Forty 18. 
Yeah, Moolah has done this I 

1322
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,640
think multiple Times Now where 
he's he's the guy that that can 

1323
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,280
disrupt just sort of it's just, 
it's just like. 

1324
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,960
We don't need to do that here in
a Diamond League. 

1325
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,320
Like if you're, I get it, 
fighting for space and 

1326
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,080
championships, prelims, all that
stuff. 

1327
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,920
But you know, as these things 
go, it's like, you know, Marco's

1328
01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,920
trying to run something out 
front. 

1329
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:04,600
I'm not saying don't race, you 
know, but let's not trip the guy

1330
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:09,240
that's going to run 141 eight. 
Especially because these meets 

1331
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,120
are obsessed with times. 
Yeah, yes. 

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Don't overcook it all right now 
we can talk about Cam Myers 

1372
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:31,040
front running. 
This 328 flat wins personal best

1373
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,400
by over a second 27th fastest 
time in history now faster than 

1374
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,640
the Yaka Bingo. 
Britain was at the same exact 

1375
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:43,240
age because Yaka brand 328.68 at
20 years old. 

1376
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:48,080
This moves Cam to number 12 on 
the all time list, not that far 

1377
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,440
behind. 
I think yard and a goose ahead 

1378
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:53,320
of knowing Jenny. 
When you look at his splits, the

1379
01:15:53,320 --> 01:16:00,640
splits were 5561 fifty, 2247 and
then 3/28 with each 100m split 

1380
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:05,080
after 800 somewhere between 
13813 four. 

1381
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,280
I, I don't know what would you, 
what's a 328 convert to for a 

1382
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:16,280
mile or do you estimate in terms
of fitness Mac 344? 

1383
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,160
Sure I don't. 
I sure I I don't know exactly 

1384
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,840
what it is, but he's obviously 
fit, if that, if that's what 

1385
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,320
you're asking. 
He's he's ridiculous. 

1386
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,680
Azadine Habs 327 guy who tends 
to peek for the Paris Diamond 

1387
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,240
League. 
As we saw last year, he beat 

1388
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,440
World Championship medalist Jake
Whiteman, Reynald Chariot. 

1389
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:44,040
Both of them were in the race 
and Mitch pointed this out just 

1390
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:48,680
to Cam in in his interviews that
he's it's clear that Cam Myers 

1391
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,240
is learning each time out from 
these races where if you go back

1392
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,840
to Stockholm, he tried to front 
run the whole thing in the wind 

1393
01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,520
and paid for it with like a 42 
second final 300 meters. 

1394
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,560
Then what was the next one? 
Was it Ostrava where he also 

1395
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,600
didn't have like that great of a
race? 

1396
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,080
So it's like he finally found 
the happy medium approach. 

1397
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:15,280
Yeah, it was Oslo is when he 
stepped off the track and was 

1398
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,040
like, that was the dumbest race 
I've ever run in my life. 

1399
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,040
What was I doing? 
And that's that's when he was 

1400
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,640
kind of racing from the back. 
So to see him immediately 

1401
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,160
recognize that, you know, 
seconds after it crosses the 

1402
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,560
finish line and then his next 
time out is like, all right, I'm

1403
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,400
going to be way more aggressive 
over my first 400. 

1404
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:32,880
So I'm not in the back of this 
field slots in I think in like 

1405
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:37,920
3rd or 4th, if you're counting 
the rabbit in the 1st 200 meters

1406
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,640
clear running out front. 
And then yeah, he's I guess the 

1407
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,760
the second rabbit takes him what
to AK and then then it's you 

1408
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:51,440
know, he knows he's yeah. 
Then he then he knows he's 

1409
01:17:51,440 --> 01:17:52,600
fitter than everyone else right 
now. 

1410
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,120
He he he's won all of his races 
this year by front running like 

1411
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,520
that. 
So yeah, he's on a we talked 

1412
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,320
about it two weeks ago. 
The the he's only lost a couple 

1413
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,600
times this year. 
He's got like 10 wins under his 

1414
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:09,000
belt and it's like it's muscle 
memory. 

1415
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:13,000
Once you start winning, you, you
like you just you, you start 

1416
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:14,680
getting a knack for it. 
You start getting really 

1417
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:18,000
confident you it becomes more of
an expectation instead of a 

1418
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,520
surprise. 
And and so, yeah, it's just a 

1419
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,520
ton of of momentum for him. 
He won this thing by almost 2 

1420
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:29,680
seconds and he put that on 
halves I think in the final 300 

1421
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:33,240
meters where he wasn't 
necessarily like 'cause you 

1422
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:39,360
still accelerating in the final,
you know, 200 meters, 100 and 

1423
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:44,800
then that stretch. 
But I guess Mack help me kind of

1424
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:54,320
how does he get the extra wheels
that we've seen from like Jakob 

1425
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:59,200
or even the Niels Laros where 
Niels Laros in Zurich last year 

1426
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:06,040
closes in 12.5 and we've seen 
Jakob close, you know, a little 

1427
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:12,120
faster than Cam did in some of 
his races back when he was the 

1428
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:16,520
same exact age. 
What I guess like is that the 

1429
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,320
next step for Cam is being able 
to close sub 13 and and winning 

1430
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:25,280
these races because next week at
the Bowerman Mile, his best 

1431
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:29,720
approach is to try and make it 
fast from the gun and go to the 

1432
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,240
front like he has here. 
Because if you leave it too 

1433
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:37,040
slow, then you're teeing it up 
for Niels Laros, who's in 143 

1434
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,120
shape and has won the Bowerman 
Mile in the past by Hawking 

1435
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:45,200
someone down and kicking. 
So I guess Cam still needs to 

1436
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,880
add that to his repertoire, like
the the ability to close sub 13.

1437
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:54,240
But he's still he's he's, he's 
in a great spot right now with 

1438
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,000
the way he's been able to win 
these races. 

1439
01:19:56,880 --> 01:20:00,040
Yeah, I think so. 
It it just, it depends how fast 

1440
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,960
these races are. 
And I think we've seen over the 

1441
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:06,520
last five or so years, to have 
that insane last hundred, you 

1442
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,120
have to be in really good 3K 
shape. 

1443
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,600
Like in Whiteman's year when he 
won, he was deliberately trying 

1444
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:15,560
to be better at the 3K because 
he was like, I am so much slower

1445
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,880
than everybody else in the 15 / 
3000 meters and that was his 

1446
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:20,960
best 15 year. 
It's nice to see him coming 

1447
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:22,480
back. 
Even though we consider Jake an 

1448
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:27,680
815 guy that specific year he 
was focusing on the 3K going 

1449
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,360
into. 
Outdoors by the wayside Note 

1450
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:34,120
that 3/29/95 by Jake in this 
past weekend is as fast as time 

1451
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,320
since the 2022 World 
Championships. 

1452
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:40,640
Yeah. 
And so I just, you know, it, 

1453
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,320
it's kind of this the easy way 
to say like, oh, you just need 

1454
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,840
to be stronger. 
But that kind of is true here. 

1455
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:51,240
If you're going to be running 
like we saw in the Paris Olympic

1456
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:55,200
final, if you're going to be 
running 327 and kicking, you 

1457
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,160
have to be comfortable, 
comfortable enough over those 

1458
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:06,840
first 1400 meters to not be just
so, you know, anaerobic before 

1459
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,280
that you have something left in 
your legs to kick. 

1460
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,560
So you just have to aerobically 
be just insane. 

1461
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,560
So I think that's kind of the 
next thing and it that comes 

1462
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:19,520
with time. 
And that's just what we're 

1463
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,360
saying. 
He's Cam Myers is still super 

1464
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,720
young, doesn't have as many 
miles, you know, in his legs as 

1465
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,920
some of these other guys. 
And and I think that strength 

1466
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:28,720
side will come out and we're 
seeing it right now. 

1467
01:21:28,880 --> 01:21:32,000
Like this is the first year he's
been winning a ton of races and 

1468
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,800
it's just come with, you know, 
maturity, him growing up, him 

1469
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:38,840
developing and getting more 
miles and, and work is 

1470
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,240
specifically workout miles in 
his legs and in his lungs. 

1471
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,880
So he's got a knack for winning 
now. 

1472
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,440
You know, we used two years ago,
we kind of felt sorry for him 

1473
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:50,840
'cause it was like he was. 
This He's coming up in the wrong

1474
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:52,640
era. 
Next time he proves the wrong 

1475
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,600
era. 
Or like 17 year old is insanely 

1476
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,080
good. 
He's one of the best 17 best 

1477
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,920
teenagers we ever we've ever 
seen in the sport. 

1478
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,000
And he's like racing all time 
greats. 

1479
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,920
And he's just getting buried 
over the last, you know, 200 

1480
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:06,800
meters. 
It's like, God, this poor guy. 

1481
01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,120
But no, now, yeah, he just 
needed an extra 18 months and 

1482
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,680
now and now look it up. 
And he's now he's going to knack

1483
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:19,160
a knack for the finish line. 
So it's he's going to be a a a 

1484
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,280
force to reckon with once we get
back into these championship 

1485
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,400
races over the next couple 
years. 

1486
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,720
Only person who's run faster 
than Cam Myers before their 21st

1487
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:29,480
birthday. 
Fanwell coach who has not looked

1488
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:31,600
good this year. 
I think he ran at the 

1489
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:37,120
Commonwealth Games trials in 
Kenya and finished like 6th or 

1490
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,960
something like that. 
So it's like he's been he's been

1491
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:44,080
banged up or maybe he's been 
banged up or whatever, but he's 

1492
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,280
not has not looked the same. 
If we're kind of going year over

1493
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,080
year Paris Diamond League to 
Paris Diamond League. 

1494
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,040
Like he's not anywhere near 
where he was in 327 shape from 

1495
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:57,200
from last year and Habs, you 
know, finishing in second and 

1496
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,360
three 2980. 
It's kind of like expected at 

1497
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,720
this point. 
He's going to turn up for the 

1498
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:07,240
home crowd and then not do well 
at the championships or when it 

1499
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,240
matters most. 
That's just sort of the as the 

1500
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:11,920
Dean ABS sort of playbook at 
this point. 

1501
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:18,840
But I mean, pre classic is going
to be so much fun in that 

1502
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,920
Bowerman mile coming off of this
race. 

1503
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,400
And I know when they first 
announced it, right, it was the 

1504
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:30,720
three headliners initially were 
Cole Hawker, Cam Myers and Sam 

1505
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,280
Ruth. 
Sam Ruth now out and he's going 

1506
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,360
to miss the U20 championships 
too because he's still injured. 

1507
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,320
I think it's another a stress 
fracture or something like that.

1508
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:45,720
So wishing for all the best and 
sort of his his recovery and and

1509
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,680
the ability to get back. 
But right now Cam Myers is on an

1510
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,880
absolute heater. 
And usually, I guess what the 

1511
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,120
podcast listeners know, I'm, 
I'm, I'm very quick to pull the 

1512
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,680
trigger on saying someone's on 
an absolute tear after two 

1513
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,920
races. 
Well, Cam's got like 5 or 6 at 

1514
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,040
this point that back that point 
up. 

1515
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,040
But yeah, Preet. 
So I guess like, what do you 

1516
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:11,480
think of this one? 
Cam's 15 PB is now just .21 

1517
01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:13,200
seconds slower than than Josh 
Kerr. 

1518
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,520
Yeah. 
I mean, look, he's he's clearly,

1519
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,400
I think we knew that he was that
like when he ran that solely 

1520
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,840
329, it was clear that 3/28 was 
coming. 

1521
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:26,160
He was going to break Olly 
Hall's national record, which 

1522
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,280
was set back in 2023. 
That was his for the taking. 

1523
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,240
We were a little worried that 
he'd kind of missed, you know, 

1524
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,040
when we sat talks about him 
maybe missing world indoors and 

1525
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,600
going back. 
From We were so mad at him. 

1526
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,040
What I think the thing was that 
like, as we've seen with Audrey 

1527
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,280
Warwick, right, like when you're
in a purple patch, right? 

1528
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,680
Why not? 
You know it, It feels like, you 

1529
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:53,160
know, take advantage because you
don't don't know what's going to

1530
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:54,960
happen with. 
I've never heard that expression

1531
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:55,880
before. 
Like PD? 

1532
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:58,160
Waited she got injured during a 
four What's? 

1533
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,320
So good about being in a purple 
patch. 

1534
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,480
Right. 
I don't know what's so good 

1535
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:07,120
about purple, but I don't know. 
We think, we think purple, 

1536
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,400
purple, purple is good, but 
yeah. 

1537
01:25:10,440 --> 01:25:16,120
I love that. 
So it, you know, it just so I 

1538
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,600
was a bit worried that maybe 
he'd peak too early in the year 

1539
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,200
and he'd also not really taken 
full advantage of it. 

1540
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:28,120
And I think he's shown that 
clearly he didn't and he has and

1541
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:29,960
he's now won this Diamond 
League. 

1542
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,120
He set the Australian record. 
He's run really quick. 

1543
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,160
And as you guys were saying, 
like the main question is how 

1544
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:44,160
does he but then step up to 
closing sub 13 to to have that 

1545
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:48,760
last piece to actually make him 
competitive in the championship 

1546
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,720
races because he now has the 
fitness at 20 years old. 

1547
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,400
And, you know, clearly that has 
to be the focus because you 

1548
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,920
don't want to end up becoming 
another, you know, a Yakabinger 

1549
01:25:59,920 --> 01:26:04,080
Britson who can win Diamond 
leagues front running, squeezing

1550
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,800
the pace. 
And it looks like Cam's going to

1551
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,480
be very, very, very good at 
that. 

1552
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,960
And it is that, you know, that 
last piece of, you know, you 

1553
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,560
have to have to have to in a 
championship race, be able to 

1554
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,400
kick off off whatever pace is, 
is there slow or fast? 

1555
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,400
And that means there'll be more 
guys in the mix. 

1556
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,920
But yeah, I mean, at 20 years 
old, you, you can't like, you 

1557
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:30,640
know, 328 is insane. 
It's it's incredible. 

1558
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,360
And yeah, I think we'll, we'll 
see a lot more of Cam Myers and 

1559
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:36,440
Bauman. 
Bauman Mile will be will be 

1560
01:26:36,440 --> 01:26:39,280
intriguing, to put it put it 
mildly. 

1561
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,920
Well, Cam, you text me through 
the week and you said I'm 

1562
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,680
feeling dangerous. 
You said I'm feeling dangerous, 

1563
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,160
and that was incredibly 
dangerous. 328, man. 

1564
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:50,280
Congratulations. 
Thank you. 

1565
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,440
How you feeling? 
Yeah, it means a lot, I think. 

1566
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,520
Yeah, getting that Australian 
record just means so much 

1567
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,640
because like, obviously Orient 
studio athletes that I looked up

1568
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,600
to a lot growing up. 
So I think it just. 

1569
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,880
Yeah, it's just sort of meant a 
lot to me for a while just 

1570
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,640
because, Yeah, the people that 
have held that record in the 

1571
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,160
past. 
So, yeah, I mean, it's nice to 

1572
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,240
finally take it off. 
And, you know, I knew I had 

1573
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,240
something good in the legs, so 
I'm glad that I was ever shot. 

1574
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,960
Well, when we were talking, 
where was it? 

1575
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,240
Stockholm. 
I was like, I remember you said 

1576
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:18,480
I couldn't have run a worse 
race. 

1577
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:19,720
Yeah. 
You take a good learning from 

1578
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,840
that because you got clear 
there. 

1579
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,480
Yeah, I mean, I started from the
first hundred. 

1580
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:26,320
I think I just put myself in a 
in a position where I didn't 

1581
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:29,200
have to run wide at all. 
I probably didn't run a meter 

1582
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,640
further than 1500 meters. 
And yeah, I felt a lot better 

1583
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,520
when I went to about a case. 
So yeah, you can kind of tell 

1584
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,880
pretty early on in 1500 whether 
it's going to be good there or 

1585
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,600
bad there. 
And I could tell when I was 

1586
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,400
going through 300 meters, like 
I'm still clicking these guys 

1587
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,240
heels. 
So yeah, I was just feeling 

1588
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,320
strong and I think it was. 
It was nice to have that feeling

1589
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:49,280
back in the legs. 
Yeah. 

1590
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,200
You haven't had that the last 
few races, you don't think? 

1591
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,160
Yeah, it was weird, like 
Stockholm, I just didn't have 

1592
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,880
it. 
And I like I said, I didn't have

1593
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,000
the legs on the day. 
And you know, I really believe 

1594
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,400
it's just something that happens
in the sport. 

1595
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:04,920
So yeah, it's nice to nice to 
have that better feeling back in

1596
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,680
the legs. 
And yeah, Oslo again, like I 

1597
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,280
felt pretty good. 
But tactically I read shit. 

1598
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,560
So that's how it goes sometimes.
So now that you've got it, I 

1599
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,640
mean, I feel like a record's 
always something that lingers. 

1600
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:15,880
Yeah. 
It's always like, oh, can you 

1601
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:17,640
get the record? 
Can you get the record now that 

1602
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:22,600
it's been obliterated? 
Yeah, I actually think like I 

1603
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:26,720
can go into races and not have 
any sort of things to worry 

1604
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,400
about, just win the race. 
You know, I think having that 

1605
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,480
exterior pressure on yourself to
get a time, it sort of takes 

1606
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:36,400
away from the main part of the 
race amounts of winning. 

1607
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,480
So yeah, clearing that up a bit.
I think it's going to be huge 

1608
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:43,360
going forward and I feel like 
I've worked out a way which I 

1609
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,320
can run and really get the most 
out of myself as well. 

1610
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:48,000
So yeah, yeah, that's exciting. 
I mean, it's got to do wonders 

1611
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,840
for the mile coming up in 
Glasgow, right? 

1612
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:51,920
I mean, you've got to be feeling
you're the world leader, you're 

1613
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,960
already the world leader and now
you've absolutely decimated a 

1614
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,280
world class field. 
Yeah. 

1615
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,360
I mean, yeah, it obviously gives
me confidence going in. 

1616
01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:02,320
But yeah, we'll obviously get to
see Kerr running in London as 

1617
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,200
well. 
So yeah, I think it'll be a 

1618
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,680
great, great incident field and 
I'm looking forward to a good 

1619
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,160
battle. 
OK, now, did you think about the

1620
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,640
tattoo at all? 
You know, maybe it's just clean 

1621
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:13,320
to get 328. 
Yeah, 28. 

1622
01:29:13,480 --> 01:29:15,280
I just said. 
I mean, you've given me a clean 

1623
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,000
number. 
Yeah. 

1624
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,240
I'm pretty excited. 
I looked it up. 

1625
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,400
I don't know if any tattoo 
parlours are open after we can 

1626
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:20,400
find. 
We'll find some. 

1627
01:29:20,440 --> 01:29:21,640
Yeah. 
Or we've got friends that can 

1628
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:22,920
tattoo them. 
Oh, that's perfect. 

1629
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,400
I think I'm going to go the arm.
Yeah. 

1630
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:25,920
Did you have any 
recommendations? 

1631
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:26,440
That's it. 
No. 

1632
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,120
Yeah. 
I don't want to, like, ruin your

1633
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:29,760
life getting a tattoo. 
No, it didn't spot. 

1634
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:31,800
Yeah. 
It can't get much worse than 

1635
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,520
what's already happening. 
Maybe in your forehead That. 

1636
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,160
I don't think that would be too 
great. 

1637
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:36,360
That could get that could get 
worse. 

1638
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,200
Yeah. 
That could be a career ruiner. 

1639
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:39,480
Exactly. 
But it'd be a great piece of 

1640
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:41,600
history. 
Who knows? 

1641
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,640
Cam 328. 
That's outrageous. 

1642
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:49,320
Congratulations man, Well done. 
I'm looking at the start list 

1643
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:54,240
right now and I'm trying to 
think who gets the say here. 

1644
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:57,280
In terms of like what the pace 
is going to be? 

1645
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,760
Yeah, I and I don't know, has 
Cole. 

1646
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,240
Cole hasn't. 
What does he run this season? 

1647
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,520
He just opened up. 
But he ran a 345 indoors, didn't

1648
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:09,080
he? 
So. 

1649
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,680
Yeah, but he hasn't run this 
outdoor season really. 

1650
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,240
Like he hasn't been doing this. 
So does it go to yard? 

1651
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,480
Yard is leading the Diamond 
League. 

1652
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,760
Cam probably has a say in 
things. 

1653
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:29,240
Cam game's a Nike athlete. 
It's a Nike meet I but OK, I 

1654
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,680
guess I'll play this 
hypothetical for you Max, since 

1655
01:30:31,680 --> 01:30:33,680
you're looking at the at the 
start list. 

1656
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:38,440
If it goes out in one 51152, who
does that? 

1657
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,480
Like, give me the contenders in 
that kind of race. 

1658
01:30:42,440 --> 01:30:46,920
You're just saying that like 
just just a sinking pit in my 

1659
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,960
stomach, just like it's just so 
fast. 

1660
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:53,760
It's so fast. 
But who's in it? 

1661
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,760
It's Yard and and Camp Myers, 
right? 

1662
01:30:57,760 --> 01:31:02,400
And then Neil's, Neil's will be 
behind them waiting, you know, 

1663
01:31:02,440 --> 01:31:05,440
to pick off anyone that that 
falls off the pace and. 

1664
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,480
Haves will be will be there to 
try. 

1665
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,560
Haves will be there to try, but 
Miles is a little different than

1666
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,600
a 15. 
I think Neil, I like Neil's in 

1667
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,520
this. 
I think my gut right now is 

1668
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:21,680
saying Neil's man, oh, I'm 
excited. 

1669
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:23,160
I'm, I'm happy. 
I'm going to be up there. 

1670
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,360
I can't believe I'm saying that.
I'm happy I'm going to be back 

1671
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,200
in Eugene. 
Cole is going to be question 

1672
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,000
mark, right, because it's like 
we just don't know where he's at

1673
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,320
based off of this injury. 
But then at the same time, is 

1674
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:35,800
he? 
Does this every time. 

1675
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,520
He does this every time. 
All of our. 

1676
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,360
Like pre classic results and 
he's he's been what his best 

1677
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:43,840
finish is third, fifth, 
something like that does. 

1678
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,840
This every time where we're 
like, yeah, Cole's not going to 

1679
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,560
be a factor in this. 
He hasn't raced enough and then 

1680
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,760
he's he's going to win and be 
like, yeah, everyone was 

1681
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,800
doubting me. 
What is? 

1682
01:31:53,640 --> 01:31:55,920
I guess you also got the both 
Chariots. 

1683
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:01,040
You got Hobbs, Kessler, Simeon 
Birnbaum, Ethan Strand. 

1684
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:03,200
This is it. 
It's going to be good. 

1685
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,000
We'll, we'll do a full preview 
of this one later in the week. 

1686
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,480
Odds of the world record. 
No, no. 

1687
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:16,800
I put them super low, Yeah, I 
put them at like 4%. 

1688
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,440
I got a question to pre what is 
is? 

1689
01:32:19,440 --> 01:32:21,320
What's Whiteman's plan for the 
rest of the season? 

1690
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:24,200
So he is doing them all at the 
con games. 

1691
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:28,280
He is also running European. 
So I think he will be running, I

1692
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,080
suspect he'll be running the 15 
Europeans, but but yeah, he he's

1693
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,720
kind of said already like 8 
hundreds a young man's game now.

1694
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,520
So he's he's he kind of he ran 
that 8. 

1695
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,880
But he I think he he's he's 
going to carry on with the 15. 

1696
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:47,240
So I think he's he's planning to
double up at both champs and he 

1697
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:49,120
and he and he will be in London 
as well. 

1698
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,640
But I, I, I don't know if he's 
in the mile or the 8. 

1699
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,080
Actually, I think he's running 
the eight in London actually, 

1700
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:56,560
not the mile. 
Have they said who else is in 

1701
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:02,720
that mile field? 
No, not as far as I know. 

1702
01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:05,600
What's the weather? 
Is there? 

1703
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:10,040
Is there no 2-3 week forecast 
out there yet so far for? 

1704
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,600
It's a bit a bit early. 
We got two week forecast, so I'm

1705
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,640
not going to predict anything. 
And like that that it's supposed

1706
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,440
to be that we're going to get a 
break in the weather now and 

1707
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:20,440
then there's going to be a new 
heat wave. 

1708
01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:24,080
So who knows where we'll be. 
It's going to oscillate. 

1709
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:30,040
Project 222, an update on that 
is like it's doing the media 

1710
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:33,000
rounds. 
It seems like Josh is talking to

1711
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:37,480
the British newspapers 
proclaiming that he's in great 

1712
01:33:37,480 --> 01:33:39,800
shape. 
But for now, like I'm just 

1713
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:41,520
buying. 
I'm just taking that as PR. 

1714
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:44,400
Like he obviously wants to drum 
up the attention and hype around

1715
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:49,040
this mile world record attempt, 
but I need a couple more YouTube

1716
01:33:49,040 --> 01:33:53,920
workouts to really gauge where 
he's at. 

1717
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,560
But as of right now, if he's, if
he's feeling that good, then 

1718
01:33:57,560 --> 01:33:59,840
great. 
But I, I wonder, I want, I 

1719
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,680
wonder if they let Cam into that
mile world record attempt. 

1720
01:34:05,480 --> 01:34:09,720
But yeah, still need to learn 
more before we up the odds of 

1721
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:11,800
the mile world record falling 
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women's 1500 that took place 
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1754
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,280
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And it was funny because I guess

1755
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,640
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1756
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:22,160
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What made you so confident? 

1758
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,560
Because you were right. 
She takes the victory 335.63 

1759
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:33,480
sees his best beats for Winnie 
Hailu and Agatha Gimo and Jess 

1760
01:36:33,480 --> 01:36:38,600
Holf was going backwards I think
in the in the last bit, but you 

1761
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,280
know, ends up 4th and 3:57. 
I mean, what was it? 

1762
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:47,000
7 women under under 4 minutes. 
Yeah, I think the only way 

1763
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,320
you're going to beat Georgia 
Hunter Bell right now in the 

1764
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:54,040
shape she is in as if they go 
out, maybe go out at 352 pace 

1765
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,280
and you've got The Ethiopians 
and Jessel working together to 

1766
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:01,120
kind of try and get enough of a 
gap on on Georgia Hunter Belt. 

1767
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:02,960
Now, or if your name is Faith, 
keep big on. 

1768
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,680
Or if your name is Faith, keep 
right, but well, we're going to 

1769
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,040
find out and. 
Yeah, it's true. 

1770
01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:10,480
Like we're going to find out 
next week at pre and I'm I'm 

1771
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,000
really fascinated now because 
Georgia Hunter Bell looks in 

1772
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:18,040
serious shape and we we haven't 
seen much of faith keep being on

1773
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,280
this year. 
This is going to be a first 1500

1774
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:23,000
race of the year or mile race of
the year rather. 

1775
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,360
And it's it's going to going to 
be, it's going to be fascinating

1776
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:32,640
because I do think like having 
seen her run A15593 solo at the 

1777
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:38,360
British Champs over 800 and that
track is A, not a fast track. 

1778
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:45,760
B, it is quite windy as well, 
like doing that solo is, but 

1779
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:48,880
most definitely not easy. 
She is in some serious shape 

1780
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,200
like that 355. 
I think she would have won if it

1781
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,920
had been quicker. 
Like I said, the hypothetical is

1782
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:56,960
you've needed to make it quicker
to try and beat her. 

1783
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:59,520
I don't think they would have 
beaten or even if it had been a 

1784
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:06,000
couple of seconds quicker. 
And yeah, I mean, I just she's 

1785
01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,760
in serious shape right now. 
And it'll be really fascinating 

1786
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:11,440
to see how she stacks up against
Faith. 

1787
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:16,680
Keep a gun next week. 
I, I, it's, it's been really fun

1788
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:21,760
to watch that confidence grow 
with Georgia because I go back 

1789
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,240
to having her on the podcast a 
couple months back. 

1790
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,240
And when I said to her, I was 
like, you know, like not to 

1791
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:31,800
start anything between like you 
and Keely, but don't you think 

1792
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:35,280
that you have a shot at this 800
meter world record as well? 

1793
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:38,360
Like it shouldn't just be teed 
up or handed to Keely on a 

1794
01:38:38,360 --> 01:38:41,440
silver platter? 
Like I'm sure you want to be in,

1795
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:46,080
you know, wherever, whatever 
race it is, and I think you'd 

1796
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,760
you'd have a shot at it. 
And she was like, Oh, that's 

1797
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:50,640
just that's so nice of you, 
Chris. 

1798
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:56,440
Like, but maybe, you know, we 
always get the best at each 

1799
01:38:56,440 --> 01:38:56,920
other. 
Whatever. 

1800
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,440
It was a very political answer. 
And now I think this past 

1801
01:38:59,440 --> 01:39:01,800
weekend was the first time when 
she talked to Mitch, she was 

1802
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,920
like, no, actually, like, I 
think I could also get it. 

1803
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:10,880
And I like that. 
And so once again, I, I guess 

1804
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,440
like the 815 double S possible 
at the World Ultimate 

1805
01:39:14,440 --> 01:39:18,320
Championships, right? 
No, I don't think it is because 

1806
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:22,000
you have heats of the eight. 
I think that, yeah. 

1807
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,480
So I don't think you can. 
But the so she's. 

1808
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,480
On the fence once again. 
So yes, and she yeah, she said, 

1809
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:32,000
she literally posted a story 
today saying literally of her 

1810
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:35,040
being on the fence, but she's 
running the 800 at Commonwealth.

1811
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,640
I think in theory she is running
the 1500 at European. 

1812
01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:43,000
She did when I spoke to her in 
Rome, she said that she was 

1813
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,120
thinking about doubling at one 
of the championships. 

1814
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:48,920
She's obviously not doing it 
come Games and I think it 

1815
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:55,360
Europeans, the 800 is 1st and 
obviously I think she thinks 

1816
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:58,000
she's got she's pretty much got 
the 1500 on lock. 

1817
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:02,440
She wants that home gold medal. 
I'm not sure she even though she

1818
01:40:02,440 --> 01:40:05,640
wants to try the double. 
I'm not sure she'll then want to

1819
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:09,560
go into a European 8 where she 
could obviously Keely is going 

1820
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,480
to be in that. 
So that could obviously ruin the

1821
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:17,240
storyline a little bit. 
But also, you know, it may be, 

1822
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,760
you know, with Audrey Warrow, 
Keely and Femca Ball in the mix,

1823
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,880
is there even a guaranteed medal
there? 

1824
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,280
It it's going to be hard. 
And so then going into the 15 

1825
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:29,160
that that probably takes a bit 
too much out of you. 

1826
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,440
So I'm not sure she will double 
at Europeans, but she still has 

1827
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:40,360
the option. 
I guess like Mac watching this 

1828
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:43,280
race, the one thing we talked 
about previously was just sort 

1829
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:48,240
of like Jess Hall trying to 
figure out this event now that 

1830
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:55,600
just sort of the competition can
run 155 and there's more people 

1831
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,680
that are capable of it. 
And so she's someone who's run 

1832
01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,760
faster, that has the fastest PB 
of the whole field in many 

1833
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:06,280
cases. 
But if she pulls from the front,

1834
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:08,920
she risks getting caught, which 
is what we've seen I think 

1835
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,080
happened. 
And in other cases, she's just 

1836
01:41:12,080 --> 01:41:13,920
chasing faith. 
When there's no faith is sort of

1837
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,360
when she has to kind of think 
these things through. 

1838
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:21,200
Is there a way like I guess, 
that she can get back to winning

1839
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,680
this, winning these, these types
of races? 

1840
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,160
Yeah, I mean, she, she's 
obviously not going to run 3:50 

1841
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,760
every single time out. 
And it's impossible to be in 

1842
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:34,160
your, your peak fitness every 
single year and every single 

1843
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:37,960
month of, of each year. 
But it would be fun to see her 

1844
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:40,160
race a different way. 
I know I say this most other 

1845
01:41:40,160 --> 01:41:43,240
times and I, I, we talked about 
it with Keely's like, you know, 

1846
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:47,080
it'd be kind of fun to see her 
run a little bit differently. 

1847
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:54,200
Like, you just know, you know, 
she's just going to go to the 

1848
01:41:54,200 --> 01:41:55,520
front of the race every single 
time. 

1849
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:57,880
And it's like, Nah, just just 
chill out, go back. 

1850
01:41:58,040 --> 01:42:00,440
You know, what I was actually 
just doing was going through 

1851
01:42:00,440 --> 01:42:03,560
Georgia Hunter Bells races over 
the last year and I was trying 

1852
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:05,680
to see what the furthest out she
ever LED a race. 

1853
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,000
And I think there was one 
earlier this year where she's 

1854
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,000
like 300 out. 
She's leading, but most of the 

1855
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,440
time it's like 150 to go. 
She takes the lead. 

1856
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,880
This is outdoors. 
This is outdoors, outdoors. 

1857
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,760
Indoors, she's tried it and it 
didn't work out. 

1858
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,560
And and then also like, who else
is in the race? 

1859
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,520
You know, if she's a clear far 
and away the favorite, that's a 

1860
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,160
different story than like, you 
know, some some equal 

1861
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,800
competitors and peers. 
Such a good championship racer. 

1862
01:42:32,160 --> 01:42:35,480
And yeah, she's just not going 
to lead. 

1863
01:42:35,480 --> 01:42:39,000
Like, I know last time I kind of
scoffed at Georgia Hunter Bell 

1864
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:40,600
breaking the day under meter 
world record. 

1865
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,120
And that's because she doesn't 
necessarily lead these things. 

1866
01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:46,440
And I think in order to do that,
you kind of have to front run a 

1867
01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:48,480
bit or be one of those type of 
runners. 

1868
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:50,520
That's true. 
It's can you kick to an 800 

1869
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:52,200
meter world record and I don't, 
I don't know. 

1870
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:55,080
Yeah, it's like you could win 
that race because other people 

1871
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,880
are fading, but I don't know 
about breaking a world record 

1872
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:03,480
being that type of racer. 
I've been like good Day, Good 

1873
01:43:03,480 --> 01:43:07,280
Day's fate in the, you know, in 
the 5K10K kind of situation with

1874
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:10,440
those world records, Segi and 
Good Day and stuff have suffered

1875
01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:13,640
that fate with with Kippy, Aegon
and Chabat sitting on them and 

1876
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,720
and out kicking them. 
So yeah, he's world record. 

1877
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:19,000
So, so I think in these distance
races, that is that is the 

1878
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:22,160
method of winning, of running 
world record. 

1879
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:25,480
But yeah, it's whether you have 
the right race for it, right? 

1880
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,040
And that's hard to say she has a
top ten time all time. 

1881
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:35,080
Like she's unbelievably good. 
This is my stupid opinion, but 

1882
01:43:35,080 --> 01:43:42,000
yeah, it's if if we're talking 
about back to Jess whole yeah, 

1883
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,800
it's just like, hey, if you 
know, you're not in 350 shape or

1884
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:49,520
352 shape or even like a kicking
355, like don't lead the race, 

1885
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:54,120
Let someone else do it. 
Force force Georgia to lead. 

1886
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,240
If she's going to Georgia has 
lost like one or two races this 

1887
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,800
year. 
Force her to lead. 

1888
01:44:00,440 --> 01:44:02,080
Let the rabbit go and force her 
to lead. 

1889
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,280
Force George to lead. 
Like I, I would be really 

1890
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,240
curious to see what happens in 
one of these diamond leagues 

1891
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:07,720
where they just push her to the 
front. 

1892
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:10,240
Like, is she going to run 60 
threes? 

1893
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,920
I don't probably not. 
But I want to see it. 

1894
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,480
I I want to see him race. 
Yeah. 

1895
01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:23,000
But I, I just think like 
watching that 155 and the way 

1896
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:25,880
she ran it, I think and that 
that's probably what has now 

1897
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,760
given her the confidence that 
she thinks she can now lead 

1898
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,400
races. 
She has got that fitness to be 

1899
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,240
able to do that and pull from 
the front and still be able to 

1900
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,680
win and have something left at 
the end. 

1901
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,960
So I think Georgia is now a 
threat. 

1902
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:42,520
And I think I think that has 
that has changed. 

1903
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,240
And I think that is what what 
does make life a lot more 

1904
01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,920
interesting going into the rest 
of the season. 

1905
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,120
Yeah. 
And and also to argue with 

1906
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,440
myself here, like we got to 
remember that she's only like 2 

1907
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:54,800
1/2 years back into this sort of
thing. 

1908
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:59,080
And when she was coming back two
years ago to be a professional 

1909
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,400
in the sport, like think about 
who she's racing and how fit 

1910
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,240
those those other women were. 
Like she couldn't front run. 

1911
01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,320
She like she just physically 
couldn't front run any of those 

1912
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,240
things. 
So she had to work her way back 

1913
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,800
into the sport by running from 
the back in the pack and kicking

1914
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,040
from there because that's where 
her fitness was. 

1915
01:45:17,440 --> 01:45:19,440
And so now that we've seen her 
fitness kind of progressed to 

1916
01:45:19,440 --> 01:45:22,040
this, like, hey, you're winning 
these races now instead of 

1917
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:25,800
getting second and third, you 
know, can you race a little bit 

1918
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,160
differently? 
And also like, she doesn't 

1919
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:28,280
actually need to race any 
differently. 

1920
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,880
At least she's she's winning. 
And that's the most important 

1921
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:33,440
thing here. 
Yeah. 

1922
01:45:33,440 --> 01:45:36,120
It's just, it's cool to see. 
I just, you know, if we're 

1923
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,920
talking about world records and 
stuff like that, like generally 

1924
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:43,920
you need to be able to pull from
far out if you're going to have 

1925
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,480
that type of performance. 
All right. 

1926
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:51,600
I want to just give an overview 
and some kudos to some of these 

1927
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,760
other performances more. 
Lady Polina looked absolutely 

1928
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:59,320
dominant with that 4848 that 
she's the favorite in a year 

1929
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,480
where there's no Sydney and 
Salwa. 

1930
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:05,320
Ian Nasser has also looked 
beatable this year. 

1931
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,160
She hasn't looked super, super 
sharp. 

1932
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:09,520
She's also scratched from this 
from the pre classic. 

1933
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,960
Next week we're going to get to 
see her versus Paulina, but 

1934
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,480
we're. 
Not Who's Paulina's biggest 

1935
01:46:13,480 --> 01:46:18,760
opponent in this 400? 
In Oakley right now, that's. 

1936
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:19,920
True. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1937
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:22,160
That's a good one. 
You told me I got to redo these 

1938
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:26,440
graphics already. 
Yeah, Max been working on the 

1939
01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:30,960
graphics for the but there's no 
Paulino either. 

1940
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,880
So yeah, where at the pre 
classic? 

1941
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:38,000
Pre yeah, she's gone as well. 
They're both gone, sorry. 

1942
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:43,680
Mike, over in the men's hundred,
these are the fundraise. 

1943
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:47,360
Trayvon Brummel reminded the 
world that he's he's still 

1944
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,800
around. 
I loved his, the way he stood 

1945
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:53,600
and looked at the cameras right 
after finishing this one, he's 

1946
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,720
like, yeah, I'm still here. 991 
beats. 

1947
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,760
No Lyles. 
Noah afterwards, I think was 

1948
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:03,240
confused by, you know, getting 
out to a slow start. 

1949
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:07,840
And then I guess it's this race 
has mostly taken on a life on 

1950
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:12,080
Twitter because what was Noah's 
exact tweet? 

1951
01:47:13,280 --> 01:47:16,600
Said careful last time someone 
looked over at me. 

1952
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:20,440
Yeah, careful there, Trayvon. 
The last person who did this to 

1953
01:47:20,440 --> 01:47:24,120
me didn't even make the podium. 
Next time we met, well, actually

1954
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,440
carefully there, Trayvon with 
Trayvon's name misspelled, which

1955
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,360
in in our group chat led to more
discussion as to just sort of 

1956
01:47:31,360 --> 01:47:34,080
like, how many times did you 
face off against Trayvon Bramel 

1957
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:35,960
and you can't get the guy, the 
guy's name right? 

1958
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,840
Was Trey even looking over at 
him or was he not looking at the

1959
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,480
clock he was in the? 
The screenshot makes it look 

1960
01:47:43,480 --> 01:47:51,040
like he was looking over pretty 
directly at at Noah, but so he's

1961
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:55,720
referencing pre if I've got this
correctly, when oblique Seville 

1962
01:47:55,920 --> 01:48:00,800
beat him at the Racers Grand 
Prix in Jamaica in 2024. 

1963
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,640
I think it was the Olympic semi 
final actually as well. 

1964
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,360
OK. 
So it's the Olympic semi final 

1965
01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,600
and then that's where the 
reference comes then to the 

1966
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,760
podium just like literally an 
hour later where oblique Seville

1967
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:15,600
obviously then pulled up injured
and I love it. 

1968
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:18,120
Well, he was still ran whatever 
was a silly time. 

1969
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,840
But but yeah, he he was not in 
the mix for the. 

1970
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,520
Medals. 
I love it Noah for I get it. 

1971
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:27,080
I hate you know what I get it 
sometimes it's annoying, but 

1972
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:30,280
this he's the only one doing 
anything in the sport about 

1973
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:32,800
actually like racing and 
competing against each other. 

1974
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:37,440
And even before the race when 
they were one of the MCS on pre 

1975
01:48:37,440 --> 01:48:40,360
meet day was like, oh, but what 
if you PR tomorrow and he's 

1976
01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:44,000
like, I don't care about that. 
The news if I lose is going to 

1977
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:47,240
be I lost, which is kind of 
funny now that Trayvon did 

1978
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,360
actually end up beating him and 
that is the that is what it is. 

1979
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,560
And you know what's even better 
is that same day. 

1980
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:56,600
He makes a point about hey, you 
know what the last time someone 

1981
01:48:56,600 --> 01:48:59,320
looked over at me when I like 
when they beat me, they didn't 

1982
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:02,120
even end up meddling. 
And he's talking about the he's 

1983
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:04,360
talking about the next 
competition of actually like 

1984
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,360
head to head racing, not like, 
hey, the last time someone 

1985
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:09,720
looked over at me, they didn't 
set a meeting record the next 

1986
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,880
time we raced. 
You know it, It's just everyone 

1987
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:14,880
is so lost in the times right 
now. 

1988
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,200
And that's the only thing that 
matters. 

1989
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,440
Every five days. 
We're just we're on this five 

1990
01:49:18,440 --> 01:49:21,720
day loop cycle of meeting 
records, program records, 

1991
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:28,160
Diamond League records and we're
we just have lost actual like 

1992
01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,920
who is beating who and why does 
that matter? 

1993
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:35,640
You know, rankings going into 
the championships, head to head 

1994
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:37,480
records, any of that type of 
thing. 

1995
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:40,920
So I absolutely like thank you, 
Noah. 

1996
01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:45,280
You're the only person that 
gives a shit about head to head 

1997
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:49,480
racing right now and I love it. 
Cam Myers too, he had a great 

1998
01:49:49,480 --> 01:49:51,600
quote as well, where he's like, 
oh, I'm glad I finally got this 

1999
01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,080
time, this Australian record out
of the way because it's now 

2000
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,720
time. 
You can't obsess over it or else

2001
01:49:56,720 --> 01:50:00,520
you, you don't. 
The the main thing should be 

2002
01:50:00,520 --> 01:50:02,520
about winning. 
And so the young, the young 

2003
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:05,640
folks, they get it. 
I don't think they do. 

2004
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,840
He might be. 
He might be the only one go to 

2005
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:12,720
go to BU during an indoor an 
indoor meet and tell me that 

2006
01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,080
winning matters. 
It's all about the truth. 

2007
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:23,680
It's all about the clock, baby. 
Jamal Britt, he won the men's 

2008
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:27,720
110 hurdles in a big personal 
best of 1289. 

2009
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:31,600
Puts him at #8 on the all time 
list would have been higher 

2010
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:34,720
prior to would have been what, 
number six prior to the NCAA 

2011
01:50:35,480 --> 01:50:41,000
championships? 
And I mean, this one is cool 

2012
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:44,480
because how many times has this 
guy raced since 10? 

2013
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:49,440
He's won 10 times and raced 12 
times since April. 

2014
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:53,680
And I think when he cross the 
finish line, he says, I'm tired,

2015
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,480
I'm ready to go home and love 
that. 

2016
01:50:57,480 --> 01:51:01,280
I mean, he's he's he's made a 
name for himself. 

2017
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:03,120
I think so far this year. 
He's he's always been one of 

2018
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,240
those guys who's like he's he's 
always in the race. 

2019
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,200
And now he's finally, you know, 
getting some breakthroughs and 

2020
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,360
winning. 
So look for him at the US 

2021
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:14,640
Championships if. 
He's running pre. 

2022
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:17,800
He is. 
Right now he is. 

2023
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:19,240
I don't like him saying he's 
tired. 

2024
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:22,680
Brother we got, we got the rest 
of. 

2025
01:51:23,720 --> 01:51:26,320
The outdoor season, Jamal, come 
on. 

2026
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:31,320
Yeah, I mean, he's come a long 
way from just rattling off 13 O 

2027
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:35,520
sevens to start off the year and
now to once he cracked 13 

2028
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:38,360
seconds. 
He's gotten so much better. 1299

2029
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,360
Los Angeles, 1298 Zagreb and now
1289 in Paris. 

2030
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:48,600
Yeah, so very, very cool to see.
It's a crowded men's 110 hurdle 

2031
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:53,760
picture with Jacoby Tharp, 
Cordell Tinch, Trey Cunningham. 

2032
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:55,760
Good. 
Some good news is that it 

2033
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:57,600
appears Grant Holloway is back 
to training. 

2034
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,560
I saw he posted like an 
Instagram story video where he's

2035
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:04,440
like, you know, back 2 two 
months or second hurdle workout,

2036
01:52:04,440 --> 01:52:08,720
I think, or something like that.
So hoping he he he makes a good 

2037
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:12,840
return. 
Then we add I think we we talked

2038
01:52:12,840 --> 01:52:15,480
briefly and mentioned him at the
very beginning of this Colin 

2039
01:52:15,480 --> 01:52:21,160
Kevin a ship be running 4354 
Diamond League record looked 

2040
01:52:21,160 --> 01:52:24,600
fantastic in this one. 
Just point O1 seconds off of his

2041
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:28,680
personal best from the Tokyo 
World Championships last year 

2042
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:35,280
and this time I guess at worlds 
last year he went out in 2055 

2043
01:52:35,560 --> 01:52:39,920
and came back in 2298. 
This time around was a bit more 

2044
01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:46,280
controlled. 2129 comes back 2225
S. 

2045
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:50,720
All in all, he's he's expected 
to also race at the pre classic.

2046
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,800
I think we're getting pre pre, I
guess Quincy. 

2047
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,360
Hall, Quincy Hall, Olympic 
champion, was meant to be in 

2048
01:52:57,360 --> 01:52:59,600
this race scratched. 
He also posted that he'll 

2049
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:01,160
probably have to scratch from 
the pre classic. 

2050
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,360
Yeah, but as of right now is rye
still on the pre classic start 

2051
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:08,080
list? 
I have not checked Rye, but 

2052
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,360
yeah, I know Quincy Hall is is 
likely to disappear. 

2053
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,920
Because Mitch asked him as sort 
of like, all right, so like, 

2054
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,680
you're on this tear. 
Congratulations. 

2055
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:17,600
Like, what do you think about, 
you know, upcoming races? 

2056
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,800
You got a big race against Rye 
Benjamin and he's just sort of 

2057
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:23,480
like, I'll just take it as it 
all comes like each each each 

2058
01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:25,840
time out. 
And so not necessarily if it was

2059
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:29,760
Toboga, maybe we get a little 
bit more of the, you know, spice

2060
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:33,160
out of those those interviews. 
But it just seems like Kevin and

2061
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,280
Shippy knows he's the guy right 
now. 

2062
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:38,120
I guess we want to see him race.
Samuel Ghazi. 

2063
01:53:38,840 --> 01:53:41,680
One of those accounts, Sprint 
accounts I think on Twitter that

2064
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:44,320
I saw was like World Athletic 
should bring back the 

2065
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:48,920
Continental tour or the 
Continental Games where everyone

2066
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:54,240
competes by their area. 
So it'd be, what was it, North 

2067
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:57,320
America, Africa, Europe, like 
those teams? 

2068
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:06,920
And in Africa 4x4, when you can 
mix both Botswana and South 

2069
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:15,400
Africa would probably run crazy 
fast in the 4x4 250-3252. 

2070
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:21,400
All right, what else do we have?
We had Karl Bevendorf, a German 

2071
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:27,160
steeplechaser that no, not too 
many people probably had on 

2072
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:30,200
their radar, end up winning the 
3K steeple in eight O 5. 

2073
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,800
So now with him and Frederick 
Rupert, I mean, Germany is a 

2074
01:54:35,080 --> 01:54:37,920
steeplechase powerhouse in 2026,
it seems like. 

2075
01:54:38,480 --> 01:54:42,920
And yeah, I think that's all we 
got from Paris. 

2076
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:47,240
Diamond League on the track. 
I do want to give a quick shout 

2077
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:51,640
out to Thea Lafond in the triple
jump. 1525 is the furthest mark 

2078
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:55,560
we've seen since 2014 other than
new Lamar Rojas, 9th all time. 

2079
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,400
So, so really, really impressive
from her. 

2080
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,480
The triple jumps coming back. 
The men's triple jump was really

2081
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:03,760
good as well last week in Doha. 
So, so that's good to see for an

2082
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:07,320
event that's been a little bit 
down in the last 2-3 years. 

2083
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,320
What else do we have? 
We had. 

2084
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:12,520
Chris, are are we're doing are 
we're doing the shout outs a 

2085
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:13,880
bit. 
Yeah, go for it. 

2086
01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,680
I don't, you know, you, you got 
OK. 

2087
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,800
I was just checked out there for
the last couple minutes. 

2088
01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:23,760
Here's my shout out. 
Lagree, in that men's 15 at 

2089
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,800
Paris right after the finish 
line, sees that Cam Myers has a 

2090
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,520
bunch of spit on his face. 
And he knows that the cameras 

2091
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,000
are all over. 
Here he knows that the cameras 

2092
01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:35,120
are going to to Cam Myers goes 
over to Cam wipes the spit off 

2093
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:39,240
of Cam Myers face before he gets
facing the cameras. 

2094
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,280
Wild move. 
Absolutely wild move. 

2095
01:55:42,280 --> 01:55:45,680
Also I was just saying impressed
by all the Frenchmen in that 

2096
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,640
men's 15. 
There was like it seemed like a 

2097
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:52,640
hundred of those guys who ran 
331 or faster in there pretty 

2098
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,240
crazy depth that I wasn't 
expecting. 

2099
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:59,400
I don't know all of those guys, 
but why don't you ever ran 331 

2100
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:02,120
or faster? 
Oh, same in the 800 is what I 

2101
01:56:02,120 --> 01:56:08,160
was looking at too, but they 
they went 6783 guys running 144 

2102
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:10,480
and two all was the slowest one 
of the of the three. 

2103
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:13,480
Yeah, so. 
Awesome meat from them. 

2104
01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:16,200
Their their middle distances are
improving. 

2105
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:18,440
So I wouldn't be surprised to 
see some of those names that 

2106
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:24,120
were in both of those races, you
know, get start seeing more of 

2107
01:56:24,120 --> 01:56:25,720
them in championships over the 
next couple years. 

2108
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:31,240
For doing quick shout outs, I 
guess Western states ended up 

2109
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:35,240
being fast. 
I mean, we're not ultra trail 

2110
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:39,760
guys on this podcast, but it's 
really it. 

2111
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:44,040
It ends up on our feeds and all 
over Instagram over the course 

2112
01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:46,840
of the weekend. 
But seemed like they had perfect

2113
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,520
weather. 
Lots of guys in those early 

2114
01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:55,840
stages were huge chunks of time 
under, you know, Jim Walmsley's 

2115
01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:59,160
previous course record and it 
ended up being Vincent 

2116
01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:04,520
Bouillard, who I guess formerly 
was in Hoka as a corporate 

2117
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,680
employee and then. 
Did he leave that job? 

2118
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:13,320
I think he's finally full time 
at like full time athlete now, 

2119
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:16,320
but he won before. 
When, when when he won. 

2120
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:20,920
UTMB as an employee of HOKA? 
I hope he's still an employee. 

2121
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,240
That's so sick. 
Also why would you leave your W2

2122
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:27,240
or W9 whatever he's 9 for a 
1099, you would never do that. 

2123
01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:31,640
I hope he still has benefits and
is still winning these ultras. 

2124
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:37,720
1546 for 100 miles. 
Wild and a knot flat. 

2125
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:41,640
No. 
And that was yeah, I guess, 

2126
01:57:41,880 --> 01:57:43,520
Yeah. 
Jim Walmsley held the previous 

2127
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,320
record. 
He DNF D in this one. 

2128
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:51,440
Then there was Jen Lichter, also
another course record 1528. 

2129
01:57:53,360 --> 01:57:55,920
And apparently, I guess I 
haven't gone and, and read the 

2130
01:57:55,920 --> 01:58:00,280
full story yet, but I did see 
some posts about her having like

2131
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:05,960
a pretty crazy like upbringing 
where her and her siblings were 

2132
01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:11,480
homeless after in, in Colombia 
and they ended up being adopted 

2133
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:15,480
by an American family. 
And she ran at Toledo, I think 

2134
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,760
struggled while she was there 
and then ultimately found like 

2135
01:58:18,760 --> 01:58:22,200
the ultra trail scene and has 
been just a force on there. 

2136
01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:27,160
So yeah, I was tapped into all 
of the interviews that the free 

2137
01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:30,320
the free trail team was putting 
together throughout the the 

2138
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:32,240
weekend. 
And so I'm sure they are going 

2139
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:36,560
to have, you know, a post race 
debrief with, you know, both 

2140
01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,000
those winners. 
And so shout out to those guys 

2141
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:40,840
'cause their coverage was 
fantastic. 

2142
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:45,040
But yeah, one of these one of 
these years, I guess like Mac, 

2143
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,320
you've, you've been hell bent on
like it. 

2144
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:50,720
It usually western states tends 
to overlap in some years with 

2145
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:53,160
Usas. 
And so we're never we're not 

2146
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:54,840
able to make it. 
This would probably would have 

2147
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,840
been a good year for us to go 
out there, but we wanted to do 

2148
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:02,200
something more where was like 
the track guys are at, you know,

2149
01:59:02,200 --> 01:59:06,960
the ultra trail scene. 
And you know, there's a bunch of

2150
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,400
people who are like us where 
it's like, oh, this is we we 

2151
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:14,360
find this very impressive, very 
intriguing, and we want to learn

2152
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:18,440
more. 
And so someone, you know, not 

2153
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:22,680
baby us through the whole thing,
but like, yeah, it's like we. 

2154
01:59:22,680 --> 01:59:26,800
I want to I want to go in, drink
it from a fire hose, like teach 

2155
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:28,560
us. 
And it's, they are just 

2156
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,200
wonderful events because it's 
closest thing to like the Tour 

2157
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:34,920
de France kind of style, you 
know, like fans are out there 

2158
01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:41,400
and, you know, it's not as 
restrictive as track can be in a

2159
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,160
lot of ways. 
The number of videographers 

2160
01:59:44,160 --> 01:59:46,400
following these guys when 
they're leaving, like the Forest

2161
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:50,960
Hills aid station is. 
That's when I turn in to an old 

2162
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:52,360
man. 
I'm like, get those guys out of 

2163
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:55,480
here. 
Too many, too many, too many, 

2164
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,320
too many. 
But no, it's such a cool event. 

2165
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:00,960
Yeah, I I hope we can get to 1 
of them. 

2166
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:02,880
One of these. 
I've I've I've been to Western 

2167
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:08,120
States and and crude it in 2019 
for Stephen Kirsch and it was it

2168
02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:13,600
was an awesome experience and 
you get to see people just at 

2169
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:17,120
their absolute worst at times. 
But that's really cool. 

2170
02:00:18,440 --> 02:00:24,680
And I, I, I guess I'd love to 
crew Samir for someone who isn't

2171
02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,760
necessarily in contention for 
the win or top ten. 

2172
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:30,760
Like that gets to be a little 
cushy where like, oh, you know 

2173
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,480
that they're going to come 
through at certain times where 

2174
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,720
as like when it's just someone 
looking to complete the whole 

2175
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:39,560
thing, like you could be at an 
aid station for hours with. 

2176
02:00:39,560 --> 02:00:42,920
No can can we back someone and 
then be their crew? 

2177
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:46,440
A Sidious. 
Because there's no, I mean, the 

2178
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:49,680
top end, they get paid just as 
well as any other runner in the 

2179
02:00:49,680 --> 02:00:50,520
world. 
They have. 

2180
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:52,480
I mean a lot of these ultra 
athletes have bigger followings 

2181
02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,600
than the best track athletes. 
Oh yeah, absolutely. 

2182
02:00:55,600 --> 02:01:00,120
So, but yeah, I'd be sick to 
find like a upcomer, we back 

2183
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:03,440
them for Western states or one 
of these ultras and then we go 

2184
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:07,320
out there and and crew for them.
Yeah, someone gets their golden 

2185
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,240
ticket and then it they're 
looking to fill out their crew, 

2186
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:14,400
give us a call. 
Well, oh man, Eric is the he's 

2187
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:18,760
now a he's a certified ultra 
like journalist, isn't he? 

2188
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:20,920
So he probably knows knows knows
the. 

2189
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,840
Big J. 
He's a big J He's the, he's the 

2190
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:27,280
face of of of ultra running on 
the on. 

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Some of these channels, so 
that's. 

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Quite exciting. 
So he probably, he probably 

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knows his stuff. 
We'll ask him. 

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He's. 
Right up and Comer. 

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All right, so I think that does 
it for this episode of this week

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in track and field. 
We'll be back later this week. 

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Yeah, I guess, like, we forgot 
to address the fact that there 

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wasn't an episode last week. 
I turned in my manuscript for my

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book, and then I was like, all 
right, I'm piercing out and 

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going on vacation for a couple 
days. 

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So the batteries have been 
recharged. 

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And I'm ready for the 
second-half of the Summer Racing

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series, getting back into the 
groove soon of scheduling some 

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podcast interviews. 
And yeah, don't have to worry 

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about hunkering down and 
cramming some chapters late at 

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night. 
But feels good, feels good. 

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We're back. 
We're back on with the pod. 

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So that does it for this week in
track and field. 

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We'll be back later this week 
with more of a preview of the 

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Prefountain Classic and then 
we'll have on site coverage, 

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including a pre show. 
Mac, correct me if I'm wrong, 

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what is it an hour before the 
meet starts on Friday and an 

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hour before the meet starts on 
Saturday. 

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We will have more updates on the
Cydius Mag social social 

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channels. 
Those will be more guest driven 

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02:02:50,040 --> 02:02:52,520
shows. 
I did love the announcement that

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came out a couple days ago. 
The one and only Don Staley will

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02:02:56,320 --> 02:03:01,080
be on Cydius Mag live at Pre. 
Yeah, that was that was sent 

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02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:02,960
over and I was like, yeah, of 
course, why not? 

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02:03:03,480 --> 02:03:05,440
She's awesome. 
Of course we have to talk to 

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her. 
Couple more surprises to come on

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02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:12,160
some big name guests. 
On Friday we will be in the like

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fan experience, VIP areas up on 
the the turf fields doing a 

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little pre meet chatter and 
interview. 

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02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:25,120
Saturday will be a little bit 
more athlete driven, I believe. 

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02:03:26,160 --> 02:03:29,080
Friday will be a little bit more
preview, but come on by, come 

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02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:32,360
say hi. 
Come listen to Paul and Karen, 

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02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:34,880
maybe myself talk a little track
and field. 

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02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:39,360
Awesome. 
Well, all right, well, we will. 

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02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,520
More on the pod in the coming 
days. 

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02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:43,200
Thanks for listening. 
We'll see you guys next time. 

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02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:46,720
All right, that's a wrap on 
today's episode. 

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02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:49,680
Thanks for listening, for the 
time, the curiosity, and for 

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02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:52,440
making this show part of your 
routine or your run. 

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02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:55,800
Big thanks to our producer 
Jasmine Fair, and to everyone 

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02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:58,800
behind the scenes who helps make
the Sidious Mag Podcast happen. 

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02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,240
If you enjoyed today's episode, 
a quick five star review on 

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02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:05,160
Apple Podcast or Spotify helps 
people find this show and we 

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02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:07,000
read every single one. 
You can find 

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02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:10,840
muchmoretrackandfieldcoverage@sidiousmag.com
and you can follow along across 

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02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:12,400
all of Sidious Mag social 
channels. 

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02:04:12,640 --> 02:04:14,760
We'll see you next time. 
Thanks again for listening. 

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02:04:17,720 --> 02:04:21,600
We're back with Bandits head of 
experience is Tim Rossi for more

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02:04:21,640 --> 02:04:26,760
on Bandits unsponsored project. 
So when we look at the roster of

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02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:30,760
athletes who have come through 
the Unsponsored Project, in 

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02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:35,360
certain cases athletes graduate 
and then they go on and get 

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02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:40,680
professional contracts for from 
major sportswear and footwear 

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02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:43,200
companies. 
What is that process been like 

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02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:45,680
over the last couple years? 
Yeah, it's been really, really 

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02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,200
cool to see. 
It's part of what we talk about 

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02:04:48,200 --> 02:04:50,520
as success of the Unsponsored 
Project. 

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02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:53,200
We want to get to the point 
where Bandit will have athletes 

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02:04:53,200 --> 02:04:56,480
in the future, but right now the
Unsponsored Project is our 

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02:04:56,480 --> 02:05:00,280
primary athlete support 
mechanism and we want people to 

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02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:03,640
be able to go and get those full
time long term sponsorship 

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02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:05,320
deals. 
So at this point, over the three

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02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:09,200
years, we've had 11 total people
of the roughly 100 that we've 

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02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,920
supported as part of the 
unsponsored project go and get 

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02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:14,400
signed by a variety of different
brands. 

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02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:16,240
And it's different every single 
time. 

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02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:19,320
I often times like to go back to
Trevor Bassett, who made the 

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02:05:19,320 --> 02:05:23,120
Olympics in 2024, was an 
unsponsored project athlete when

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02:05:23,120 --> 02:05:25,880
competing in Eugene. 
And then the next year, we 

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02:05:25,880 --> 02:05:28,680
actually were supporting Trevor 
on an extended unsponsored 

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02:05:28,680 --> 02:05:33,280
project style support contract. 
And he gave me a call in March 

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02:05:33,280 --> 02:05:34,920
or April. 
I can't remember exactly what 

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02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:38,400
month it was, but he's like, 
hey, Adidas is offering me a 

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02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:39,680
deal. 
I'm like, hell yeah, dude, 

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02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:42,080
that's super, super awesome. 
That's exactly what we want. 

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02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:46,000
And now he's still competing 
under the Adidas umbrella. 

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02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,720
And it it's really, really 
amazing to see. 

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02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:50,920
We'll have more on Bandits 
Unsponsored Project in the 

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02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:53,960
coming weeks on the CD Smack 
podcast and in the Lab Count 

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02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:54,440
newsletter.