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We've made it the runners soda. 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,919 All right, we're back again on the City of Smack podcast. 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,800 This is your 2026 World Indoor Championships preview, reunited 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,760 with Preet Majithia here to unpack all of the track events 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,360 taking place this weekend in Poland. 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,600 Preet, you're getting ready to be there. 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,720 When do you head out? Yeah, I fly out tomorrow. 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,880 I've been relegated to the Two Star Media Hotel, so that 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,600 promises to be interesting. But yeah, should be should be 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,640 good champs. You were busy with some work 48 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:42,880 stuff over the last week or so, so you've missed out on a couple 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,360 recordings of this week in track and field. 50 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,200 But nevertheless, we heard from you in our group chat head and 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,960 clapping back at a couple of me and Kyle's takes. 52 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:57,720 So let us have at it because I'm sure the preet stands out there 53 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,840 like Susie Cinnamon and and others will want to hear your 54 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,840 thoughts. Well, I was going to say that. 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,640 I mean, Kyle said that he thought that, you know, that 56 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:11,400 there should be more spots available at World indoors for 57 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,520 the people who care about indoors, IE the US goes really 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,960 hard at indoors. So there should be like 59 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,760 multiple, multiple spots. And I think the crazy thing is, 60 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,560 right, how many people in the US are watching World indoors, 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,720 right? Yes, there's loads of people in 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,280 the US competing at who compete indoors, but then. 63 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:32,640 I think I think that it might actually be televised. 64 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:35,720 I'd have to double check and see if NBC will be doing it on TV. 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,160 This tells you everything you need to know. 66 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:45,960 You are the founder of Sidious Mag US is best athletics track 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,600 and field media channel. And even you're not sure whether 68 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,760 it's being televised. So I'm I'm just going to leave 69 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,720 it there and say, look, there are plenty of countries where 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,840 indoors is, you know, people are keen, like in Europe especially 71 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,640 people are keen on indoors. There's opportunities there for 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,960 people to get medals. We'll talk about some people who 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,240 we wouldn't normally talk about in an outdoor context who have 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,240 opportunities to get medals and that can make careers that can 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,600 give enthusiasm for athletics in some of these smaller countries 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,320 as well. So I think it's really cool to 77 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 make sure, like when it's a World Championships, you should 78 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,480 make sure that as far as possible, there is diverse 79 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,520 representation. And I think that's that's 80 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,160 really, really important part of it. 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,960 And yes, I appreciate, you know, it's frustrating that the likes 82 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,680 of Nico Young isn't at these championships and there are 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,480 others who maybe, you know, are at these championships and, and 84 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,600 you're saying, well, look, we should have more of the best 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,880 athletes who want to go. And, you know, maybe there's a 86 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,360 case for having in some events having three per country or 87 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,240 whatever, especially some of these events where there's like 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,480 30 or 35 people in the field. But I, I, I, I still think 89 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,240 you've, you've got to cap it. Yeah, although like at the end 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,960 of the day, like if we extend this to the the thinking to the 91 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,600 outdoor championships, like I just don't sometimes really it's 92 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,960 yes, it's nice that we allocate these, these universality spots 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,320 to have like so much diversity. Honestly, maybe that's the move, 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,600 right. It's let's, let's lean into it 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,560 being best of the best come indoors. 96 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:27,760 But you can have a couple, we select a couple events to have 97 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:33,320 universality spots if you really want to push for diversity, but 98 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,800 then at the same time level it out with having the best of the 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,640 best. So then that way, like, OK, you 100 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,520 do get those smaller tiny countries to have someone go and 101 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,000 run one round of the 60. Case in point though, right? 102 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,240 And I think world cross country is the ultimate argument here, 103 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,800 right? World cross country, right? 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Then you have whatever in the top ten, you have 8 Kenyans and 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:05,120 Ethiopians, right? And the interest from other 106 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,000 countries who are watching, because you're watching the 107 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,520 front of the race, that's where the cameras are focused, is much 108 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,360 reduced because you don't have diversity representation in the 109 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:20,840 final. Such a much better race, like 110 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,440 I'd rather have four or five Kenyans battling it out in the 111 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,240 front end of the race. Versus we would, yeah, we would. 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,040 We, we want the best athletes there. 113 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,320 But at the same time we are not, we are track and field like 114 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,240 we're hardcore. We're hardcore fans, like 95% of 115 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,880 people. And if you want to make the 116 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,120 sport appeal to a wider audience, want to see people 117 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,880 from their country. Like when you get all these Vt 118 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,600 packages at the Olympics from from countries, like they are 119 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,880 focusing on their own athletes, even if they're not going to do 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,680 very well, even if they're not going to make the final, they're 121 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,920 talking about own athletes. And I think ultimately in sport, 122 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,600 you want to have someone that you can get to know and you root 123 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,800 for. And if that's someone from your 124 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,080 country, that's how you develop that interest. 125 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,280 And yes, you know, we struggle with with track and field to to 126 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:06,680 get that interest outside the Olympics. 127 00:07:06,840 --> 00:07:10,840 But if we try and remove that from more events, I think it's 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,320 difficult. And that's why I think the World 129 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,040 Ultimate Champs is a good experiment. 130 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,680 I think that will be cool. But at the same time, I think 131 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,720 the other championships just have to stay the same because I 132 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,200 think otherwise you risk losing a lot of the other, you know, a 133 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,400 lot, a lot of the other fans who who aren't as engaged and just 134 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,120 want someone from their country to root for. 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,400 But also, I know you you were just like, oh, I mean, we don't 136 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,000 know if it's going to be televised. 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,280 It probably will be. I just always rely on the fact 138 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,760 that it's going to be on Peacock and I'll be able to find a way 139 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,000 to stream it. I don't actually ever watch 140 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,720 these things on TV, but if anything over the last couple 141 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:51,640 weeks, like seeing the, you know, one minute video clip of 142 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,960 the Barcelona marathon finish or the LA marathon finish, is that 143 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:02,800 it really people just gravitate towards thrilling race finishes 144 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,200 and they're not actually tuning in to watch the whole entire 145 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,880 thing. I think like we should if it if 146 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,040 it results in a very a much better race that will 147 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,560 breakthrough in sort of like how the modern sports media consumer 148 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,400 is is consuming the race. I don't necessarily think we 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,160 need to target people to come and tune into two hours worth of 150 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:29,120 the world indoor championships, make a better race finish. 151 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:34,039 And it that like that goes that has an epic close with someone 152 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:37,720 diving across the finish line or coming from behind for the win 153 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,559 to like that. That's what ultimately we will 154 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,640 breakthrough. It's hard it it track and field 155 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,520 is just so hard to sell to someone to sit down for two 156 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,480 hours. But case in point, right, World 157 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,520 Championships marathon, right? Arnold Petrus of Germany and 158 00:08:55,520 --> 00:09:00,520 Alfonzimbu of Tanzania kicking it down, right, They weren't, 159 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,360 they aren't the best marathoners in the world. 160 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,840 There's like millions. They're very good. 161 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,040 They're very they're decent, but they're not the best marathoners 162 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:07,640 in the world. They're. 163 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,560 I think they would meet our best of the best quota. 164 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,520 But you know that they might do. But I mean, there's every 165 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:19,120 possibility you have, like if you had unlimited Kenyans and 166 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,040 Ethiopians in that race, there would be 4 or five Kenyans and 167 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,080 Ethiopians who would have gotten ahead of them, and we wouldn't 168 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,600 have had that. Thing well, maybe we would have 169 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,560 had two Kenyans doing the photo finish. 170 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,200 I don't know, but my point being that why not therefore have the 171 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,760 diversity? I don't think that stops you 172 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,440 from having a good race, right, or a good race finish or a 173 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,680 clippable moment. And in fact, the meaning and the 174 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:44,480 kind of when you have multiple countries getting that kind of 175 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,560 moment, I think the meaning and the kind of it just breaks 176 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:49,480 through more. I don't think like if every 177 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,440 single race was won by people from either USA or Kenya, that 178 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:55,720 would be very, very boring in life. 179 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,840 I'm sure you would enjoy it if USA won every race, but I think 180 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,920 we would, you know, the rest of the world would very quickly 181 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,880 tune out. And, and I do think that 182 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,400 diversity is really, really critical and it's one of the 183 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,960 things that's special about track and field. 184 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,520 It is like, I mean, I'm not totally saying like we shouldn't 185 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,120 include like these smaller countries. 186 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,040 I just think that we should find a way, a better way of expanding 187 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,960 the fields to include the best of the best. 188 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,480 And then while still keeping that diversity component. 189 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:28,720 Yeah, I just have the universality 60 and 800 or 190 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,640 something like that at these championships, find those events 191 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,520 that 0400, whatever it is like that. 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:43,040 Cause OK, it's really nice to see these small Vanuatu running 193 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:48,120 the first round of the 100 at the Tokyo World Championships. 194 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:49,920 But what is? What does that ultimately 195 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,880 actually do? Nothing. 196 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Well, no, but I mean, I think The thing is you have the like. 197 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,840 Benoit 2's viewership doesn't do anything for us. 198 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,880 No, but you've still got June, Alfred, and you've got, you 199 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:03,880 know, yes. June average. 200 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,400 The best, the best. But as in as in the point being 201 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,120 right that I think like if you then had seven Americans versus 202 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,320 June Alfred it the life gets life gets a bit boring, right. 203 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,560 I, I just I just. It'd be. 204 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:21,480 Four Americans and three Jamaicans, maybe, maybe or or 205 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,720 five Jamaicans, yeah, whatever. But like, great, I'd rather have 206 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,760 that. Yeah, I, I, I, yeah, I do think 207 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,240 you've got to try and. OK, I'll give you 2 Brits in the 208 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,120 race too with Amy Hunt and and Dean Asher Smith. 209 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,040 Yes. Well, let's see. 210 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 We'll we'll go to that. But I think the flip side of it 211 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,920 is you said, oh, we don't care about world indoor medals. 212 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,400 That was your take yesterday. OK, No, no, no, no. 213 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,200 I I never said I don't care. I just think that there are 214 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,560 things that are more valuable. So First off, Kyle was the one 215 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:55,800 pushing for the best of the best. 216 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,560 I'm kind of siding with it a little bit more, but I'm in. 217 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:03,320 And then yesterday in the other pod, I mean, I was just being 218 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,880 frank about just sort of like where it sits in sort of like 219 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:13,880 the value structure in this sport is that if I am 20, if I'm 220 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Cooper Leckenhouse, well, I know that's a that's a terrible 221 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,560 example because he's just, but he's really good. 222 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:26,960 He could win a world outdoor medal if I'm like, and I and 223 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,480 also for this example, don't make me an American, right? 224 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,960 I am the world junior 3K champion. 225 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,040 There's so much more valuable like doors are opening up with 226 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:46,360 places I could go to college. I my value for my pro career is 227 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,960 probably going to be better. I think there's just more you 228 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,800 can gain from that versus just being the world indoor champion 229 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,080 where there's gonna be another one pretty soon after. 230 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,920 I like. I was just weighing what doors 231 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,040 open up, what possibilities are out there. 232 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,560 You did say an NCAA title was better than a world indoor 233 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,880 metal, and I have I. I would agree. 234 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,600 If you look at how many times that there is the competition, 235 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,520 like it just so happens that it's a what category F meet that 236 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,760 NCA is because of the no drug testing and all that kind of 237 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,520 stuff. But the talent level is deeper 238 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,480 at, at, at NCAS. We're going to get to previewing 239 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,880 some of these events where I would say the NCA races will 240 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,920 probably be better than these World Indoors I. 241 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,600 I think again right in the US and NCAA title absolutely as if 242 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,960 you're AUS athlete. If you're not AUS athlete 243 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:43,440 getting a world indoor medal from you know it probably does 244 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,280 open up way more sponsorship opportunities for you than an 245 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,560 NCAA title like. Talking to Pre, talking to Mack 246 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:53,560 and Kyle who have been athletes who have had professional 247 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:56,120 contracts, very few times have there been bonus structures. 248 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Aisha's same thing. Like very few times have there 249 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,280 been bonus structures that really emphasize indoors. 250 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,120 It's just as it's fallen off. I'm glad that it's making a bit 251 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,600 of a comeback. I like will enjoy watching world 252 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,440 indoors. I'm just overall saying that the 253 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,840 like, I just think that there's it's a much more valuable thing 254 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,320 to be an NCAA champion than it is being a world champion. 255 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,640 I was, I was ready to get you even more mad while listening to 256 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,200 the podcast by saying that, you know, I was, I'm not going to go 257 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,920 as far as saying SEC champion is is greater than being a European 258 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,800 champion. That would really rally you up. 259 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,480 But I would say NCA champion is. Bigger than that, but don't 260 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,200 worry, World Athletics also managed to raw me up when they 261 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,760 didn't include the current world indoor champion on their 60 262 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,960 meter graphic who's run the same time as someone else. 263 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,440 They did include on their 60 meter graphic that they hosted 264 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,720 earlier today, so I was a bit bit annoyed with that. 265 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,600 Yeah, OK, So do you want do you want to dive into these events 266 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,720 without taking place out in Poland? 267 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,080 We'll start with the men 60s so you can get some love out there 268 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,080 for. Defending champion Jeremiah Azu 269 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,880 enters looking to defend his title from Nanjing. 270 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:18,680 But this I was, I was looking at the fields over the last couple 271 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,640 years. This one might be the strongest 272 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,520 one in recent memory because he's going to be up against 273 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Jordan Anthony, who ran 643 in Fayetteville last month. 274 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,120 Cause Shane Thompson is going to be running under a roof for the 275 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,360 first time this season. But he's run some fast times out 276 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,960 in the 60 in Jamaica where they do those funky outdoor meets. 277 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:46,200 But The thing is that Kazu did run 647, which was a really 278 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:51,520 strong showing to lower his PB. And I think that that did turn 279 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,920 some heads. I think to think of him as more 280 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 of a contender. He's also, he's tied with Brian 281 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Lavelle. You got Trayvon Bermel, who's 282 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,400 the feel good underdog in this one of trying to win gold or 283 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:10,120 medal 10 years after his gold in in Portland. 284 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:14,200 So this one should be really, really good. 285 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,600 If all these guys make it through to the final, Ozu versus 286 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,080 Anthony versus Thompson versus Bermel versus Lavelle, that's 287 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,160 good. Yeah, no, that, that, that I 288 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,920 think will be really good. I, I think, you know, Lavelle, I 289 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,440 think our Sprint expert Anderson did say he thinks Lavelle is 290 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,840 more of a threat than like a Shane Thompson in, in this. 291 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,200 So that's an interesting, interesting take to to go with. 292 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,400 And I think Cushane, I mean, I think we obviously know he's a 293 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,960 very good 100m runner. He's an absolutely fantastic 294 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,600 100m runner. The 60, like he's been running 295 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,960 more 6 fives. He did run the 164, but he's 296 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,800 been running a lot of 6 fives, mid 6 fives. 297 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,240 And that's even outdoors, right? So I'm not as convinced about 298 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,240 his consistency over over the 60 and running indoors with the 299 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,319 roof over his head. Jordan Anthony, this is his 300 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:11,319 first race outside the US ever. Yeah, so that's an interesting 301 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:13,480 one. And it'll be interesting to see 302 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,319 whether, you know, having experience of being on the 303 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:21,880 circuit, being, you know, in a bit, having left the US and and 304 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,240 actually raced overseas and like just dealing with things like 305 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,599 jet lag and recovery and all that stuff in an unfamiliar 306 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:29,800 environment. Whether that affects him at all 307 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,880 or not. I mean, if he puts it together, 308 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,440 obviously he is the favorite. He's the fastest in the field 309 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,080 and he won the US title over over Lars and Bramel. 310 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,560 So, you know, if he puts it together, absolutely he's a 311 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,560 favorite. But by But yeah, there is that 312 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:49,440 question of of his experience. Yeah, I I've heard Trayvon 313 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,800 Burmell speak about this before, about just sort of like the 314 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,720 travel out to Europe sometimes. Like it wasn't until last year 315 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,200 Rome Diamond League or were Trayvon popped off with a 316 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,960 really, really good performance that he finally, like all these 317 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,320 years later proved himself that he could figure it out on how to 318 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,360 travel out to Europe and race. Well, after a day or two, I did 319 00:18:10,360 --> 00:18:12,400 see from his Instagram story he's already there. 320 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:18,200 So trying to acclimate and and adjust with enough time for the 321 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,560 race. But this will all be new for 322 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,360 Jordan Anthony. Although I I did like just sort 323 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:28,080 of his composure through the US Championships where he took care 324 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,400 of business in the first round, watched as Trayvon Burmell threw 325 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,840 down a faster time, but then responded accordingly in the 326 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,320 final. So you just got to do that up 327 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:43,000 against, you know, Ozu, who has done it before, but then also 328 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:47,080 Shane Thompson and Brian Lavelle getting into the blocks next to 329 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,520 those guys. Surely it's intimidating. 330 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,880 But this is the same guy who just beat Noah Lyles at the US 331 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:59,120 Championships, so I'm sure he's in good hands with Lance 332 00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:02,480 Brahman, who's been there and coached, you know, Noah to 333 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:07,800 medals in the past. And yeah, so I don't necessarily 334 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,240 know who's who's the favorite in this one. 335 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:16,080 I think I'd still maybe lean picking Jordan Anthony if the 336 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,480 experience isn't like a factor for him. 337 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,640 But it wouldn't shock me if Brian Lavelle comes away with a 338 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:24,960 win. Yeah. 339 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,680 And I think the other thing that's interesting to note is if 340 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,960 you look at the guys who have run 655 or faster, there's a lot 341 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,360 of really interesting countries there. 342 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:35,720 And this is what I love about, you know, the point I was just 343 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,920 making before, right? Brazil, Puerto Rico, Cameroon, 344 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,680 South Africa, Poland, New Zealand, Ireland. 345 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,520 So, you know, there's a, there's a bunch of countries in there, 346 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,920 some of which you don't see Amman as well, who you don't see 347 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,200 kind of at the at the top end of these lists. 348 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,600 So I think there's an opportunity for a sneaky bronze 349 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,880 from a, from a random country as well, because obviously some of 350 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:01,640 these guys are probably going to make the final. 351 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,280 And once you're in that final, anything can happen in in in the 352 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,520 60s, I think so. Yeah, because what the the final 353 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,200 could be occupied by what, 22 Jamaicans? 354 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,640 Two Americans? A Brit One or two Brits it was. 355 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,320 Just a second. Well, there's another one, JD 356 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,520 Smith, who's run 657. So he's he's he's done run 357 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,280 decently well as well. He's run a bunch of 6 fives this 358 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,520 season. So possibly, but I think yeah, 359 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,560 there's a as I say, all the all those other guys I listed, you 360 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,400 know, like countries I listed anyway, who, who are, who are 361 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,080 potentially, you know, in the mix. 362 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,480 As I say, the 60 is one of those races where the margins are so 363 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,000 fine that and there's so many people clustered together, like 364 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,160 100th of a second is absolutely nothing right And you just have 365 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,760 to get your race right in that semi final or whatever and, and 366 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,240 you make the final. So who are you leaning to pick? 367 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,720 For the win, I'm I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with 368 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,240 Jeremiah as you just because of the consistency he's shown. 369 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,560 Like he has shown that ability. Like last year he won 3 370 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,960 championships in a row. This year he's come out, he won 371 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:12,120 British champs, he went out there and run that 647. 372 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,440 He, he, he's got the experience and, and the ability to put it 373 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,640 together and he and he's shown that. 374 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,680 So I, I will say I'm going to put him as as my favorite. 375 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,960 But yeah, as I say, Laval is probably the other, I think the 376 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,920 slight dark horse for me that could. 377 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,760 Why doesn't he get more love in the British media, in the 378 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,680 British athletic scene? He's, he's an interesting, 379 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,520 obviously he hasn't, I mean, he has won European medals 380 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,320 outdoors, but he hasn't obviously translated it to the 381 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:48,880 blazing fast times outdoors. He's run like 997 or so a couple 382 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,560 of times, but he hasn't really gone much quicker than that 383 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,920 outdoors. And you know, he's, he's also a 384 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,360 kind of like he's, he's got a really great personality, but he 385 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,720 also doesn't kind of go out there putting himself out there 386 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,280 a lot. So he's kind of, he's down to 387 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,360 business. He trains hard and and he gets 388 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,040 on with it. So he's not like out there out 389 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,040 there in the media, like putting himself out there. 390 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,720 So maybe that that's, that's just a part of it. 391 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,680 But I think, you know, if he if he wins this again, I think he's 392 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,720 he's definitely going to get a lot of love come the summer 393 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,560 because with all the home championships, I think he's he's 394 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,120 in with a shot of some medals there as well. 395 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,960 You could argue that Louis Hinchcliffe has received more 396 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,440 attention for his NCAA title than Jeremiah Oz, who has for 397 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,080 his European medals. So, well, we have that one free. 398 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,120 Well, the the reason why was with Louis Hinchcliffe, we had 399 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,720 Carl Lewis turning up to random British meets. 400 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,920 It was the most hilarious thing ever. 401 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,040 And you just see Carl Lewis just wandering around. 402 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,440 And it was, it was fabulous. But yeah. 403 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,880 And that kind of probably drew a lot of the attention. 404 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,400 So point to the NCA title. I'll let you have that one. 405 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,880 All right, moving over to the women's 60. 406 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,160 This one is fun. You got Saint Lucia's Julian 407 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,120 Alfred. I shouted out the country there 408 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,280 for you, Preet, just because I know you love how many countries 409 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,840 will be rattling off here. Italy's Zainab Doso. 410 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,920 Both of them share the world lead right now at 699 and Julian 411 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Alfred's the reigning indoor champion, the Olympic 100m 412 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:31,080 champion and she's second on the all time list that she would 413 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,440 just become the second woman ever I think in history to win 414 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:40,440 260m titles versus Dasos. I think 2 years older and having 415 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,440 like the best indoor season of her career. 416 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,640 So she's got silver and a bronze in the past at world indoors. 417 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,280 So now she's trying to finish off the whole set. 418 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:57,480 The defending champion Mujinga Kembunji is not competing after 419 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,480 she gave birth to her kid in November. 420 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,160 So I think everyone's looking at Alfred versus Dasso. 421 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:09,160 But beyond that, bronze is up for grabs. 422 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,880 You could got Patricia van der Weken from Luxembourg. 423 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,000 Your two Brits, Amy Hunt and Dean Asher Smith could be in the 424 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,440 hunt for that. Jason Sears is America's big 425 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,120 hope. And I think if Ewas Wilboda 426 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:28,200 finds a way to get on the podium, it might be. 427 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,280 Well, actually here's a side tangent. 428 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,840 Poland's got quite the team that is turning up for it's this this 429 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,360 home championship. So Soboda is just the first of a 430 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,600 couple medal opportunities for them and but if she's able to 431 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,640 get onto the podium, that place will be rocking. 432 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,680 But I see this one probably going to Julian Alfred. 433 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,200 But it wouldn't shock me if Doso pulls off the upset. 434 00:24:55,360 --> 00:25:00,040 They're neck and neck right now. Yeah, I know and I agree. 435 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,800 Like Doso has been been phenomenal over 60, but I mean, 436 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,480 I I do give to you enough for the edge. 437 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,160 She's just got that experience and she's able to get it done 438 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,920 like she's got it done multiple times in the NCAA and she's run 439 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,520 694 and I think she just looks so good in those first couple of 440 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,360 races out. I I do think she's, you know, 441 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,680 she, she probably has the edge. But yeah, I think I think, you 442 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,240 know, yes, there is probably, you know, you, you bank on Dosso 443 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600 getting on the podium, but I think there's a third medal up 444 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,920 for grabs between van der Vaiken Sears, the two Brits and and 445 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,680 possibly the Jamaicans and and maybe Swaroda. 446 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:43,280 So Janelle Smith and Brianna Liston are the 2, two Jamaicans 447 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:49,480 in this field. So yeah, I mean, I, yeah, I 448 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,360 think I think that's, that's a bit more of a toss up. 449 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,520 I can see just, I mean, both Dina and Amy, having seen them 450 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,080 run and and spoken to both of them, I think they're both very, 451 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,200 very hungry. Like Amy is pissed she did not 452 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,920 win that British title. She's so annoyed. 453 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,600 And then she went out and ran faster than Dina in her in her 454 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:17,280 next race in this same arena in Toran running that 704 and. 455 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,080 How fierce is this rivalry between the two of them? 456 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,960 I don't know, I mean, it's, it's hard to gauge because obviously 457 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,120 they're they're great relay team mates, but also it does feel 458 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:29,480 like there's a bit of an edge to it now because that, you know, 459 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,040 they tied, they both ran 22.14 at the British champs last year 460 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,200 for that 200 meters. That was an amazing race. 461 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:43,120 And I think there is a little bit of Dina, Dina's been the 462 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,640 queen for 10 years of British sprinting. 463 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,680 And, you know, I asked her like, you know, what is she? 464 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,880 You know, what is she like? Is she, you know, how does she 465 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,360 feel? Because obviously Amy's now the 466 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:58,680 most recent global medallist. And I I do feel that there is, 467 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,400 you know, there is a strong rivalry there. 468 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880 So yeah, I mean, and that's good. 469 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,160 That's good. That's good to see. 470 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,640 And it's fun to have an exciting. 471 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,640 So you're also going Alfred Dasso and then one of the Brits. 472 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,080 I think so, yes. I'm I'm going to go with that. 473 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,800 I think I will too, and I'll probably go with Amy Hunt. 474 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,280 I'll. Go with dinner then. 475 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:32,160 OK, let's go now over to the really quick the women's 60 476 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,560 meter hurdles as Devin Charlton from the Bahamas, another 477 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,760 country. Add that to the country count is 478 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,960 the two time defending champion so far, going for a three peat 479 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,160 first ever woman to win three consecutive titles in the 60 480 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,080 hurdles. But she will be up against a 481 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:58,120 strong contingent from Europe as Ditaji Kembunji from 482 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:03,000 Switzerland, another country is the most dangerous threat for 483 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,720 her. She is the world outdoor 484 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,120 champion and she just recently ran 767 to win the European 485 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,040 title. She was behind Charlton in 486 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,560 Torran and in Nanjing by point O1. 487 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:25,320 That's as close as it gets. So that's the duel that I think 488 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,320 is sizing up in this one. But if we go back to 489 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,080 highlighting the Poles that will be turning up in this one, 490 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,560 Poland's Oh my gosh, Pia. Khrushchevska is the name. 491 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200 Wow, that was good. It was the bronze medalist in 492 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:49,400 Glasgow and she's run 778. She'll have the crowd behind her 493 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:55,120 competed at the Polish National Championships on this very same 494 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,040 track, so she'll have that familiarity. 495 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,440 But Devin Charlton is just kind of proven that this is this is 496 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,240 her event over the last couple of years and I think that the 497 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:10,240 three peat is likely. Yeah, I would. 498 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160 I would agree that Devin definitely goes into the 499 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,360 favorite. She's inconsistent. 500 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,360 She's been winning every race. I'll say these three, Ditaji 501 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Kamunji, Nadine Vissa and Pierre Shotska have been going at it on 502 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,680 the European circuit this season and all three of them are run 503 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,760 778, only a .01 of a second slower than Charlton. 504 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,120 So you know, it, it's really is, you know, a really tight battle 505 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,240 for the medals. I mean, Vista and Khrushovska 506 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,240 both trained together under Lauren Mobley, same coaches as 507 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,120 from Kabul. And Khrushovska didn't have as 508 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,160 good a season last year. Her and Vista were kind of toe 509 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,880 for toe a couple of years ago and and Khrushovska struggled a 510 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,720 little bit and she's now looking back to her best, albeit she had 511 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,000 a really good start to the indoor season and has tailed off 512 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,840 just a touch in the last couple of races. 513 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,480 But yeah, those those four are definitely above but US as Lee 514 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,400 Armstrong is going to be racing after her little encounter with 515 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,520 the anti doping authorities. Yeah, let's talk about that for 516 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,720 a SEC to explain it to folks. She was taking some sort of acne 517 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,960 medication that she didn't have a Tue for and it contained 518 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,120 traces of a of a banned substance. 519 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,240 And so she went public with this before any sort of announcement 520 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:33,760 came out from USADA or the AIU. But she appears to be eligible 521 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:38,160 to compete and it's probably she received, I think like a public 522 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,560 warning for it. We've seen this in the past. 523 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,200 I think Ali Ostrander was also in a very similar case to this 524 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:51,280 where some like for some of these acne medications, it 525 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:57,480 contains some sort of substance. I, I to be, to be honest with 526 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,000 you, I haven't like necessarily followed the Elian Armstrong 527 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,560 thing super closely because she posted a video, I think of her 528 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,760 addressing the whole entire thing from her car. 529 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,760 And I didn't have my sound on in my phone. 530 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:13,360 So I was just trying to look for any sort of captions and didn't 531 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,760 get around to it in time. But she's she's eligible to 532 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,800 compete. So she'll be there for the 533 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160 United States. Did I miss anything else from 534 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,920 from that? No, exactly, exactly that it 535 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,520 looks like, you know, it's spironolactone is the, is the is 536 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,960 the name of the medication and all the the sort of substance in 537 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,520 the medication. But yeah, it looks like it is 538 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,920 some sort of retrospective to you. 539 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,800 But again, it's, and this is kind of a theme of all the sort 540 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:45,440 of doping related announcements that we've had recently that 541 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,640 there are some bits that are just not very clear about the 542 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,760 processes. It's all a bit inconsistent. 543 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,320 And I think this is perhaps the frustration that people feel, 544 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,080 right? That that's fine. 545 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:01,000 Like if she's had a test and she's kind of been exonerated 546 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,160 and that's all, all all good, but it's just not very clear 547 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,800 what's happened, right? And maybe in this case, like, 548 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,000 that's fine. Like, maybe, you know, if an 549 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,880 athlete's been exonerated, you don't want that kind of thing 550 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,560 attaching to them. And it's good that she's been 551 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,000 open about it. But at the same time, I, you 552 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640 know, I think we, we just want as much transparency as 553 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720 possible. I think, you know, with the 554 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320 Adesia Hodge thing, like just the transparency around that 555 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640 resolution agreement and what that means around the timing, 556 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,480 the announcement and all that kind of stuff is a little bit 557 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,680 vague. There's, you know, there's all 558 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,880 these things that have been going on. 559 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,760 And I think it just, I think we just want consistency and 560 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,120 transparency and appreciate that might be difficult with privacy 561 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,760 laws and this that and the other in different, different places. 562 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,480 But but I think it just makes it that little bit more difficult 563 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,840 for people to kind of invest in the sport and then have these 564 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,400 kind of things floating around, which kind of can take away from 565 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480 us watching things with a kind of a positive outlook. 566 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,280 Yeah, I was scrolling through the comments section on our post 567 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,040 around the Adesia news, and so many people were just like, we 568 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,360 knew this already. Like, why is it out there? 569 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,640 It's actually, it's like, well, you knew about this probably 570 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,960 because you follow things very closely or were observant to the 571 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,600 fact that Adesia did not compete at all in 2025. 572 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:31,080 And because during Coach Fury's provisional suspension 573 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040 announcement, it said the three athletes tested positive, you 574 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,360 kind of just connect the dots. And so you knew Isam Singh, you 575 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,080 would figure it was a Deja Hodge who hadn't competed at all. 576 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,320 But up until yesterday, there actually hadn't been anything 577 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,640 publicly confirmed by the Athletics Integrity Unit. 578 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,320 And so for the people who were so upset about like, why are you 579 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,680 posting this now? It's like, because that's when 580 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:59,440 the news came out. So there was that and then for 581 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,160 the people wondering like why did they time it to now, I don't 582 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,920 know for certain why it came out two days after the NCAA out like 583 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,520 indoor championships. But in the last episode, if you 584 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:17,960 go back and listen, I do explain just sort of why there is a rule 585 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,880 within the anti doping guidelines and all that stuff 586 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,679 that you can delay when an announcement gets public when 587 00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,760 they're are other facets to an investigation. 588 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,320 Think about the Marvin Bracy example as well. 589 00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:39,760 Like he tested positive, you know, on in 2024, similar to 590 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,920 aedesia and we didn't learn about it up until a couple 591 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,679 months ago. And that's because he was 592 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,000 cooperating with the investigation and providing more 593 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,080 details into what ended up being, you know, someone got 594 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,719 prosecuted for it in Florida under the Rochenkov Act. 595 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,480 And so that's what I'm kind of expecting is going to be come in 596 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:06,160 the next step that comes out of this because they delayed 597 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,480 Adagio's announcement because she was probably cooperating 598 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,520 into the investigation into Coach Gerald Fury. 599 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Now, I just don't understand why they had to do it this week, 600 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,320 right? But eventually it did come out. 601 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,160 Well, I think it's interesting because obviously the like seven 602 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,760 months is also a random time period to reduce the band by. 603 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,360 Normally it's like 6 months or a year, right? 604 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,240 You reduce it by like those kind of chunks of time. 605 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,400 And seven months conveniently means that she was able to have 606 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400 a full indoor seat at Georgia this year, right? 607 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,520 And I think maybe that's just part of the case resolution 608 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,920 agreement. But again, there's just no 609 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,320 transparency around why that timing. 610 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,320 And I think initially I thought, oh, the delay was because she 611 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,800 was a minor at the time. She has positive she was 612 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,080 actually 18. So it isn't that, albeit 613 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,360 obviously some of the, you know, the the the actual doping may 614 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,760 have occurred when she was still a minor. 615 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,840 And and so again, and a singers kind of in that same, you know, 616 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,360 you guys talked about it on on on Monday's podcast. 617 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:12,920 But I think, yeah, it it's just that lack of transparency as to 618 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,280 to what's gone on and that lack of consistency between the two 619 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,200 cases that on the face of it now in hindsight appear to be quite 620 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,200 similar. And a singer's lost his 621 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,280 scholarship and banned for four years. 622 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,240 Hodges competing and winning NCAA titles 18 months later. 623 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,680 I do think part of it was because of the timing of Isaam's 624 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,320 test. We, I mean, we're regurgitating, 625 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,480 I think a lot of what we discussed, but the fact that he 626 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,400 pushed for this contaminated gummy defence and fought, you 627 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,160 know, the World Athletics and the AIU. 628 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Meanwhile, Coach Fieri probably knew the whole entire time that 629 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,880 it was like, no, that's not actually it, that he screwed him 630 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,320 and now he's sitting out for a whole another one more year at 631 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,320 least. Whereas Adesia, I think as soon 632 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,040 as she got told that she was going to be suspended, she acted 633 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,400 quick and and I think in the report says like they sat her 634 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,360 down and when they told her the news in Georgia and she 635 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:22,040 instantly started cooperating. So very different approaches 636 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,560 there. And I guess we'll wait and see 637 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,200 what comes of the Skylar Franklin news as well 'cause 638 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,440 that one is different. Involving the Jamaican Anti 639 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,120 Doping Agency in an appeal by WADA to Cass. 640 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:41,800 And so there'll be more. OK, let's get back to the events 641 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,800 in Poland. Should we do the men? 642 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:50,160 60 Yep. Jacobs Szymanski Poland enters 643 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,600 as the favorite unbeaten in 11 races this season. 644 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:58,400 This is the one where the home crowd is gonna be going crazy, 645 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:04,080 but let allow the Americans to play the villain in this one. 646 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,200 Trying to stop him because Szymanski broke his own Polish 647 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,360 record with the 737 in Berlin earlier this month. 648 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,000 And but you've got Dylan Beard and Trey Cunningham, who've also 649 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:22,840 run 737 this season. Dylan Beard is coming around at 650 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,320 the right time. He necessarily didn't have the 651 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:31,480 best showing at what Milrose and for and at the New Balance 652 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,440 Indoor Grand Prix, but has managed to turn it around to 653 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,280 make the team. Trey Cunningham has looked 654 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,960 fantastic this entire season, so both of those guys will be 655 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:48,680 looking to put a stop to Szymanski and keep the gold 656 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,400 medal in American hands. No Grant Holloway this time 657 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:59,880 around, but you know in my heart of hearts love to see Trey win. 658 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,720 But I do want to see a gold medal for the home team as well, 659 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,000 so that that I think will end up being your podium in some order. 660 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,840 Yeah, I mean, the the one guy I want to give a shout out to on 661 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,360 top of those 3 is Enrique Lopez. Who? 662 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,120 From Spain. From Spain and the poor guy. 663 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,080 Another country guess his results. 4th 60m hurdles The 664 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,720 World Indoor Championships 2024 Fourth at the Olympic Games in 665 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:34,440 2024, Fourth in Tokyo at He's the Akani Sabine of the hurdles. 666 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:41,520 The poor guy has not got a global medal and you know he's 667 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,640 come for three Times Now at big events and the poor guy, I 668 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,920 really hope he gets his moment as well. 669 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,480 Someone checked like the polymarkets and see if they have 670 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,880 got a bet out there for him finishing fourth. 671 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,400 Yeah, exactly, exactly, but yeah, no semansky, I mean yeah, 672 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,360 home home hope he he he was kind of in similar kind of shape last 673 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,120 year as well, but then didn't really deliver it at wild 674 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,280 indoors or you're indoors I think, but I think he yeah, he's 675 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,240 he's definitely a threat. He's levelled up a little bit 676 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,080 more this year getting into 7 threes. 677 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,720 So yeah, absolutely absolute threat. 678 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,840 I. Was excited for him outdoors as 679 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,640 well. Yeah, yeah. 680 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,400 I don't, I don't think he's. I mean, he is, he's clearly a 60 681 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,000 meter, a very good 60m runner, so. 682 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,520 All right, Next up, we've got the 400, women's 400. 683 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:46,560 This is the one where maybe the NCAA Championships would be a 684 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,760 bit more thrilling than this. You've got several just top 685 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,840 contenders absent from this one. We had a great race last year in 686 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,960 Nanjing. This was the Amber Anning. 687 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,840 And who is it? The Alexis. 688 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,480 Holmes, wasn't it? Alexis Holmes battle that was 689 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,680 one of the best races of the entire World Championships, and 690 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,040 they're not back. So Amber Anning not here. 691 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,760 World leader Ella. Onaja welfare yes from Nigeria. 692 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,640 She's not here. NCA Indoor champion. 693 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520 This was going to be my rant. This is another, this is another 694 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,240 one of my rants, right? Because she ran that race in the 695 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,120 heats in the prelims of the NCAA's. 696 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,960 And then we did not get to see her face off against Desjunate 697 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:37,040 Oakley in the in the final, which was which was very 698 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,120 disappointing because of the two section final, which is I think 699 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,800 the stupidity of this new two section final. 700 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,800 I get it while they doors. I'm familiar with this for for a 701 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,480 long time in the NCA, but clearly it's peeved the 702 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,600 Europeans well. I think The thing is in the NCAA 703 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,680 you can also understand the team points angle that they they've 704 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,160 got to have eight people for the team points thing. 705 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,600 So look, I get, I get that. But I think here this is a World 706 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,640 Championships and not having the winner race potentially race 707 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,120 against the silver medalist or whatever is bonkers to me, 708 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,560 absolutely bonkers to me. And you know, you can. 709 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,200 And I also think right there is like the 400 meters is like the 710 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,240 800 meters outdoors. It's two laps. 711 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:27,440 It means that there are tactics, there are who gets to the pole 712 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,480 first that materially affects the race. 713 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480 If you have to go around someone in a 400 meters, that's a 714 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,840 massive, massive disadvantage in A and so I just think like it 715 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,920 isn't necessarily fair because it isn't a pure time trial. 716 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,120 If it was a pure time trial like indoor 200 meters, fine, I get 717 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,480 it. Have a two section final because 718 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,920 it is a time trial in your own lane, right. 719 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,160 But this I just, yeah, with the 400, I think I do struggle a 720 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,520 little bit. But yeah, I'm going to put my 721 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,560 money on Emma Zaplitolova of Slovakia. 722 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,160 She's been looking really good. Wow, I, I, I wasn't gonna go 723 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,240 there. I thought Henriette Jaeger from 724 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,120 Norway, another country added to the count. 725 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,920 She is the bronze medalist from Nanjing and she's got the 726 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:25,280 fastest time of the year, 50.62. I like the way she races and 727 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,400 she's always kind of been on the cusp of a breakthrough. 728 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,560 Lika Clover. She's only run 51 flat this year 729 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,880 and and as she wins some early season races and then come to 730 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,040 championships as rarely aside from realize been able to put it 731 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:47,480 together in the final, she I guess like did beat Jagger at 732 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,160 the European Indoor Championships last year, right? 733 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,040 This is her best shot yet to try and come away with a world 734 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,600 championship gold medal. So make the most of it, Lika. 735 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,280 But Henriette Jagger, I think, is the woman standing in her 736 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,560 way. 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Home favorite multi time world 782 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:36,840 outdoor medallist and you know, she's, she's run some 51 and she 783 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,680 will be up for this. So I, I, I do, I do think there 784 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,640 is a decent chance that she and she she managed to put it 785 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,880 together at the end. You know, after a rough season 786 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:53,040 last year, she, she, she still came in, you know, 4th at Worlds 787 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,160 and that was, that was hugely impressive. 788 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,880 And yeah, I think she, she's obviously really going to be 789 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,200 wanting to deliver for the home crowd. 790 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,520 And yeah, this could be another gold medal opportunity. 791 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,520 OK, so I think my podium will end up being Jagger, Natty B, 792 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:18,400 League of Clover, you're going. I'm going ZAP little over for 793 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:24,680 Karietka and then Jager I think. Been clever off at podium. 794 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,120 Sadly, I mean, she, she's, yeah, she's, she's struggled a little 795 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:36,320 bit this season And, you know, so I'm not sure I'm here for a 796 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:41,960 sneaky yummy Mary John of GB, former USC runner, haven't 797 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:47,320 having a bit of a breakout. And, and also I, I, I just want 798 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,080 to give a shout out to Paula Sevilla, Sevilla of Spain, who 799 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,960 she's the one who in the relay, she ran the four by one and the 800 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,720 four by four in the space of like 20 minutes at the World 801 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,400 Relays and won medals and it was absolutely bonkers. 802 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,120 I think they won the gold in the 4 by 4. 803 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,360 And so she's, yeah, she's someone who's incredibly 804 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,240 talented as well. So good to see her on this list. 805 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,200 Just very likely in all European podium, yeah. 806 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,960 Yeah, definitely looks like it. Over on the men's side, you got 807 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,560 two of the three fastest indoor 400 meter runners in history 808 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:44,400 going head to He's been dominant all season. 809 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,400 He was part of the four by four that took silver in Tokyo last 810 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:54,040 year. So he's he's I think doesn't own 811 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,000 any individual medal. So this will be his best shot. 812 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:03,840 In addition to that, was it last year's champion Jacory Patterson 813 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:10,880 and Chris Bailey not back? So we've got a new crop of 400 814 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,840 meter runners in this one. And then you've got but 815 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,520 Christopher Morales Williams, I think has been turning around. 816 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,760 This is the best I think we've seen of him in in the last 817 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,400 couple years. He just ran a very quiet 44 818 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,520 eight. He used to have the OR I guess 819 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,520 he technically has like the world record, but not really 820 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,000 because it didn't get ratified due to the starting blocks 821 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,600 issues. But his PB is 4449 from when he 822 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,800 was at Georgia. He was fifth at the World Indoor 823 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:48,080 Championships last year. It would be a really good just 824 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,000 kind of way for him to get an individual medal and use that 825 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,080 momentum for the outdoor season for us to see him really try 826 00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,480 and, you know, pop off as a pro. Can't overlook the fact that 827 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,120 Dream Richards, he's in this one. 828 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:10,960 He ran 43 seven outdoors for silver in Tokyo last year and he 829 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,640 beat Noel Lyles at the New Balance Indoor Grand Prix, so 830 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,040 watch for him. And then Chris Robinson is also 831 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:26,040 another popular pick after running 4536 for an indoor PB at 832 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,880 USAS. And I guess the twist of the two 833 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:37,720 heat or the two race final kind of will make this one very 834 00:50:37,720 --> 00:50:40,120 interesting. I think I think you end up with 835 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,120 someone throwing down a really fast time and then the other 836 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,760 person trying to top it this the second go round. 837 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,200 Or or maybe not. Yeah, I mean I, I. 838 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,200 This one's deeper than the women's field for sure. 839 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,520 I I think the women's field is slightly deeper, actually the, 840 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,160 the men's, the men's field, yeah, 'cause there's a pretty 841 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:01,520 sharp drop off right after the top, the top four guys and then 842 00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,120 you've got to throw a dream Richardson there. 843 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,600 But after that, I think the, the drop off is pretty sharp and 844 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,400 like the guys are running 45 mid and the guys are running close 845 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,840 to, to sub 45. There's, there's a, quite a big 846 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,920 gap. So I, I'm not, I'm not convinced 847 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,560 that there's as much variability in the results here. 848 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:24,680 But I, I, I, I have to say Attila Monar of Hungary has 849 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,840 looked phenomenal on the European side. 850 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,280 Of course, for sure. And and I think, you know, you 851 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,680 know, Christopher Ross Williams has kind of not really delivered 852 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,280 at championships sort of outside the NCAA. 853 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,120 And yeah, obviously Dream Richards has he's won this title 854 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,680 before. So certainly he he would be 855 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360 someone who who can do it. But it depends which dream 856 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,560 Richards turns up because a couple of years ago he turned up 857 00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,600 and sort of went out in the heats of the the the world 858 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:58,600 indoors. So but but he's looking decent 859 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,160 this season. And obviously, yeah, that that 860 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,680 winner gets Noah Lyles was was pretty impressive as well. 861 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,160 So. For Dream to upset Caleb McRae, 862 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,040 it'd be big. God, he's a world self medalist. 863 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,840 He's kind of I, I don't, I don't I. 864 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,440 He's at that level now where I don't think it's an upset, but. 865 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,840 I just think like indoor, indoors dreams a little bit 866 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:27,200 different and yeah, I Caleb's just looked really, really good. 867 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,320 Wouldn't be shocking, but I guess like with the season that 868 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,560 they've had, maybe it's it's an upset. 869 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,120 It's so hard to call a silver, right? 870 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,640 It's it's I think, and the other problem is the 2 section final, 871 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,240 right? So it just depends on which race 872 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:44,000 are you in? Like are you, if you're in a 873 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,920 race that just happens to go a bit slower or someone gets in 874 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,720 the way, like that's your half a second God, right? 875 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:56,120 And and that's kind of that. So I, I don't know, I think 876 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,840 yeah, it does become a bit of a toss up at that point. 877 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:05,400 Let's go now to the women's 800. This is an easy 1, the Keely 878 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:10,200 Hodgkinson Show heading in to these championships fresh off of 879 00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:14,400 the world record. She's got tons of global 880 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:19,360 championship medals, but the one that she doesn't have is a World 881 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,480 Indoor championship medal because she's just had bad luck 882 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,240 getting to this point. So you know, box #1 to check is 883 00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:32,440 getting to Poland healthy and on the starting line. 884 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,080 And I guess the next box to check after that is get through 885 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,600 the warm up, right? Because if we go through just 886 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:44,600 sort of her last couple years, the the cruelest, I think bat 887 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:51,680 like the cruelest miss at World Indoors was when in 2022 she was 888 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:56,000 in Belgrade. She had the fastest indoor 800 889 00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:01,240 in like 20 years and then tore her quad muscle in the warm up. 890 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:05,840 And then last year's indoor season was awash. 891 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:13,320 So yeah, she's wanted to claim a medal at World Indoors for a 892 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,040 while. So after she broke the world 893 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:22,240 record going 15487 and leave in last month, she decimated that 894 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:27,440 field where I think everyone else is competing for silver. 895 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,480 She beat Audrey Weiro by like 2 seconds, Siki Deguma by like 2 896 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,640 seconds more than that right? Wasn't it? 897 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,920 Yeah, it was like 3 seconds. 3 or 4 seconds, Yeah, yeah. 898 00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:41,680 It's crazy. I, I think yeah. 899 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,360 And and you're right. I think if the 1st 200 goes to 900 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,320 plan and no one gets in her way and she's out clear, she's going 901 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,800 to run away from everybody. And I don't think, and I think 902 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,200 the only thing that could happen is that someone gets in the way. 903 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,240 And the one chink in our armour, the one Achilles heel that Keely 904 00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:05,880 has has proven to have is random tactics for from some random 905 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,600 Kenyans. And here we have Gladys Chapin, 906 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,720 get it, the newly minted NCAA champion, and Rosemary Longuisa, 907 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:16,560 who is second in the. Runner up in the 15. 908 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:18,080 Yeah, in the 15. Yeah. 909 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,520 Sorry. Yeah. 910 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,680 So was it the mile? Whatever it is indoors A mile, 911 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,280 Yeah. Mile. 912 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:23,320 Yeah. So. 913 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,040 Yeah. So they're they're, you know, 2 914 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,720 Kenyans who know how to win in tactical races. 915 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,040 And. Yeah. 916 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,360 And I've just proven that this weekend. 917 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,480 And look, I mean, I don't necessarily expect them to 918 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,040 challenge, but you just never know what's going to happen. 919 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,520 It's indoors. It's it's all a bit crazy. 920 00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:43,840 We've got Haley Kitching with a point to prove after her fall in 921 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,600 the in the prelimite NCAA's. What a redemption story that 922 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,280 would be. Yeah, to come out here and and 923 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,000 medal would be would be incredible. 924 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,440 She she runs, frustrated. Would be. 925 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,200 That would be wild, but you know, I, I think when it's an 926 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,240 indoor 800, it's all about making the final right, because 927 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:06,320 there's only six people that make the final. 928 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,120 So it's actually getting through the rounds and the semi final. 929 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,840 And I think when you've got, you know, Keely's obviously clearly 930 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:20,240 a level above everyone else. I think where Ro as well is now 931 00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:24,680 at that point where I think absent Keely, she is kind of 932 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,840 she's ahead of everyone else. The Guma hasn't quite looked 933 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,520 herself from a couple of years ago. 934 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,040 But you know, again, so we don't, we don't necessarily know 935 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:37,880 what we're going to get from her, but but she's run 936 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,600 reasonably well. She's one of 158. 937 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,320 Yeah, she was third in, leaving behind Wearo and Hodgkinson. 938 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,880 Yeah, and then Izzy, Buffy obviously had that breakout 157 939 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,560 for which was briefly a wild lead and yet. 940 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,240 Again at British Champs. It wasn't anything fast and it 941 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:59,680 was it wasn't even sub two. But that's just British champs 942 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,840 slow 800 so. We still haven't quite figured 943 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:09,000 out like what is Abu 157 translate to on the global 944 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,280 stage. This will be it. 945 00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,320 Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, because I think she did go out and run a 946 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,160 race in Europe. I think it was in torrent in 947 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,880 fact, at this at this venue. But then there were like 10 948 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,160 people in the race and it was just a mess. 949 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,240 So she didn't get a clear run out in that in that one, so. 950 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,000 But I think she's still broke too. 951 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,000 So I mean, she's been pretty consistent around breaking too. 952 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,280 I think Addie Wiley obviously getting her tactics right. 953 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,200 Like she's one of the fastest runners. 954 00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,000 Like she can be. She can she can throw down fast 955 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,880 times. And I think she has struggled to 956 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,920 get her tactics right at championships, but she obviously 957 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,840 got it right at USA's. So maybe she's found found the 958 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,800 secret as well. But yeah, it's all about making 959 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,680 that final, frankly. And I think we will have 960 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,240 probably some big name casualties along the way. 961 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,560 I think that's just the way indoor 8 hundreds go. 962 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:07,000 There are some very, very experienced European women who 963 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,200 just, you know, they've run European indoors and, and wild 964 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,200 indoors year in, year out. And they just know how to get 965 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,560 through these rounds. And one of them will one or two 966 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,640 of them will just get in the way of of some of these other 967 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,000 quicker runners and and make it through ahead of them. 968 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:26,960 And and that's just the way, you know, they have that ability to 969 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,520 do that so. I'll say it one more time, I 970 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,240 wish Roshin Willis was in this field. 971 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,360 Absolutely. Yeah, that would be. 972 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,440 I'd love to say it. Alas, you got a Stanford degree 973 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:48,040 to finish up OK Men's 800. This is the biggest test of the 974 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:53,000 year for Cooper Luckenhaus, the 17 year old, because he's up 975 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,960 against Belgium's Elliott Crestan. 976 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,800 Add another country to the total that we've been discussing 977 00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:07,120 because Crestan is the fastest seed of the year I think so far, 978 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:11,400 right? Running 143.83, fourth on the 979 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,000 all time indoor list. He was silver in 2025, bronze in 980 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,960 2024. He's looking to just become the 981 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,800 third man in history to collect all three of the medals. 982 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:31,320 Wilson, Kip Ketter and Mubilani Muladhazi have done it in the 983 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:37,000 past, but this dude runs sub 145 easy. 984 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:42,440 So getting to the final and sticking it to Cooper Lectern 985 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,920 House is going to be, I'm curious to see what approach 986 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,440 he's going to take because Cooper's shown a variety of 987 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:54,080 different skill sets in, you know, keeping it to a 988 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,400 conservative first 400 and then making his move following a 989 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,120 pacer in the and and just running fast from the gun. 990 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:08,720 So watch for him. Cooper's run 144 indoors to 991 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,960 break the U20 world record. It's faster than the NCAA 992 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:17,160 record. He's just 17 years old, so could 993 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,760 be the youngest 800 meter medalist in world indoor 994 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:25,080 championship history, which would I think surpass Noah 995 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:26,960 Cabet, who's also in this field as well. 996 01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:33,360 So that those are the big two. But then I also do love the 997 01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,160 there's, they're, they're from different countries, but I'm 998 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:42,000 going to call them the, the what is it? 999 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,280 The What's his The training group called out in Australia. 1000 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,360 Oh, the fast, fast. 8 the fast 8 track club guys. 1001 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,920 Wow, brain fart there for me. Peter Bull, Mark English, 1002 01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,560 they're in this one. I just saw I think a video clip 1003 01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,360 of them training already out in Poland, but Mark English ran 1004 01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:06,200 14423. Peter Bull ran 14389 outdoors 1005 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,440 because you can do that in Australia this time of year. 1006 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:14,160 Ben Pattinson, he's the world bronze medalist from 2023 1007 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,400 outdoors. Philip Ostrowski is carrying the 1008 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,080 hometown hopes he's a 144. What's up? 1009 01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:26,120 Wedeck has the actual faster, faster pole who's 144A7. 1010 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,560 So just behind, Yeah, just behind Cooper. 1011 01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,320 So, OK, so yeah, he's 4th on. The list they got 2. 1012 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,560 Wow. Yeah, they've got 22 good poles. 1013 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,000 So yeah, that that's pretty good. 1014 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,240 And a TOWIE, of course, remember the TOWIE who hasn't run that 1015 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,000 fast over 800, but he nearly broke the 1000 meter world 1016 01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:48,080 record and he's he's been running well and he's been 1017 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,920 running some fifteens. So that's why he hasn't posted a 1018 01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,080 quick 800. But I think he's in shape and 1019 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,720 could be a big, big threat. A TOWIE finally got it. 1020 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,040 I like I'll finally start saying it right. 1021 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,560 I did get that one comment, I think on Spotify comments. 1022 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,160 It was just like, you know, I haven't stopped thinking of. 1023 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,880 I've never gotten it right because I think I just go 1024 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,720 ratatouille but without the R. And then you got Nevasky 1025 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,240 Anderson and. Makers got. 1026 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:19,680 A. Momentum 800, right? 1027 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,120 Yeah, exactly. And then Handel Roban, who 1028 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,760 obviously didn't have a great NCAA's, but he's. 1029 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,000 He was 7th, a very disappointing seventh. 1030 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,400 Yeah. So he's. 1031 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,320 Making this one is going. To be one of the best races, I 1032 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,760 think of the whole entire championships. 1033 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,360 I think it's the men's 800 indoors is a lot of fun and it's 1034 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,400 a shame. Like this is where I missed the 1035 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,760 old start, right? Because when you had the old 1036 01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,400 start, there was just chaos and carnage, just fighting 800. 1037 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,280 Exactly. And we will get less of that 1038 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,360 with the new start, so. He wasn't Mariano Garcia, who 1039 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,640 came away with the victory over Bryce Hoppel that one year, and 1040 01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,840 it was just like a physical altercation. 1041 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,600 Yes, yeah, yeah, There was a year a few years ago I think 1042 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,960 Birmingham where entire heat got DQ D, literally all six of them. 1043 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,680 So you know, that's the kind of thing that can happen at indoor 1044 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,720 800. But yeah, I don't think we'll 1045 01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,280 get as much of that this time around. 1046 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:19,440 But still, I think we're still going to get chaos in terms of 1047 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,480 just because the qualifications so tough to get into that final. 1048 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:27,280 And and this is the one event that has three rounds, one on 1049 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,080 each day. So day one, day 2, day three for 1050 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,680 the men's and women's 800. So that is also kind of makes it 1051 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,480 a trickier proposition as well for the athletes. 1052 01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,840 Then we've, I guess, like the other person I'm missing from 1053 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,240 this field. Well, there's three. 1054 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:48,680 It's Josh Hoey who broke the world record, ran 14250. 1055 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,040 He's not here. No Donovan Brazier, no Bryce 1056 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,200 Hoppel. So those guys will be missed. 1057 01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,400 But I feel good about Cooper Lichtenhaus potentially coming 1058 01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,680 home with a gold medal. It's not gonna be easy, though. 1059 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,720 Not gonna be easy. This is this is the biggest test 1060 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,520 he's gonna he's gonna have have faced because, I mean, he didn't 1061 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,280 run well at the Tokyo World Championships. 1062 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,760 He crushed it at the trials, ran out of his mind and had one of 1063 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,760 the had the V race of his life. But this is a, this is a 1064 01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:24,840 different one for sure. So that is the, the men's 800. 1065 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:32,920 Now we go to the women's 1500. Ethiopia has had a stronghold on 1066 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,080 this event over the last couple years. 1067 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:40,760 They've won eight of the last 11 gold medals. 1068 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,960 They've got a strong team with Burka Highland, Sharon Burhay 1069 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,840 and then I'll let you take a stab at the third. 1070 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:57,800 One Haragueni Kalaiu, who is only 16, only 16 years old. 1071 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:04,000 Yeah, all three of them ran sub four O 2 in Ostrava last year. 1072 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:10,560 But I guess like the IT just like The Ethiopians haven't 1073 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,640 popped off on my radar so far. Maybe they're all saving it for 1074 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,800 world indoors. But my attention turns to 1075 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,480 Georgia Hunter Bell, to Nikki Hills, to Jess Hall, to Agatha 1076 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,280 Guillermo. Like, those are the people I 1077 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,360 think I would slide ahead of them right now. 1078 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,880 But Durka Hilam is very, very good. 1079 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,800 And especially on this stage, I think she could rise to the 1080 01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,680 occasion. But I I I feel like most people 1081 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,440 would probably put Georgia Hunter Bell as the favorite. 1082 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:48,120 I think so. I mean, I think Hilam, I think 1083 01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:51,120 I've said this before, she's a bit of an agent of chaos in 1084 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:54,320 terms of her tactics. She's the one who messed up 1085 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,640 George Hunter Bell's European record attempt in Livan. 1086 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:04,120 And you know, she, she, I think she hasn't really got it right 1087 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,520 in championships with her tactics. 1088 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:11,480 So I think, you know, Sarah Bohay as well run really fast. 1089 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:16,120 She's also really young. She's only what, 1819 years old. 1090 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,640 So yeah, there's, there's a bit of young talent there. 1091 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,840 But, but I think it's, it's, it's tough to see them like 1092 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,680 tactically getting it right. Whilst I think you have the 1093 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,520 likes of Agatha Guillermo and Saloni Alfonso, Portugal, I'm 1094 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,840 going to put in that same bucket. 1095 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,520 They're very, very good tactically. 1096 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,720 Alfonso won two medals last year. 1097 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,000 You're indoors as well and has been looking really good. 1098 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:44,240 Guillermo has been looking really good as well over the 1099 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,960 cross country and, and, and stuff. 1100 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:53,360 So, yeah, she she came close to obviously she was fighting out 1101 01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,960 with Jess Hall for that 2K relay mixed relay at well cross. 1102 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,600 We've got woman Nielsen, NCAA champion coming across Claudia 1103 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:11,120 Kasimerska now of the Swoosh TC training on the jury, the Polish 1104 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:15,360 home hope here. So, yeah, there's a whole bunch 1105 01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:20,880 of characters in this mix. Susan Nazori Sanders of Kenya is 1106 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,400 also very talented. I think, you know, and I think 1107 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,160 the problem is there haven't been that many people who've run 1108 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,440 stupidly fast this season, which kind of leaves it a bit wider 1109 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,720 open than you might think, especially if Ethiopians take it 1110 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,560 out, then I think it might take a few people out of the mix. 1111 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:42,120 But if they don't, I think Georgia, Hunter Bell, Nikki 1112 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,000 helts, they're not front runners, right? 1113 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,120 They're not going to take this out. 1114 01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,600 Wilma Nielsen's not going to take this out like Alfonso 1115 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,400 Guillermo. They're not the kind of athletes 1116 01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,040 who are going to take this out and make it fast. 1117 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:54,200 So Jess Hall is maybe the only other athlete who would take it 1118 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,360 out and make it quick, but she's going to hit the. 3K on her legs 1119 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,720 at that. Point exactly, exactly. 1120 01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:06,280 So I don't see her that either. So yeah, I do think it's I think 1121 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,960 in the right race it's Georgia Hunter Bells to lose because I 1122 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:14,560 think she has the best kick and she's proven that she can even, 1123 01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:18,479 you know, out kick the likes of Nikki helts multiple occasions. 1124 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,600 But I think Nikki's also got a decent chance of in the right 1125 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,880 race, like making it happen and getting getting a gold medal 1126 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,359 here. Obviously they they won the 1127 01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:29,920 silver medal a couple of years ago in Glasgow. 1128 01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:35,560 So yeah. Yeah, fifth in the world last 1129 01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,200 year in the 1500. And I think if you look at that 1130 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,680 field, not a ton of them are, you know, not a ton of the 1131 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,359 athletes who finished ahead of them are back for this one. 1132 01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:51,560 So you could probably increase Nikki's mental odds a bit. 1133 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:58,080 But maybe just because of that 800 PB that we saw from Georgia 1134 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,080 Hunter Bell running 157.8, I would kind of maybe give the 1135 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:09,399 edge on the on the closing speed to, to Georgia Hunter Bell over 1136 01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:15,240 Nikki. But if the race goes slow, then 1137 01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:21,080 Hunter Bell versus Hiltz versus, I mean, holding off Birka Hilam 1138 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,720 or somebody that that's a really fun finish. 1139 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:30,040 And I'm, I'm, I'm hoping for chaos like that. 1140 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,840 Yeah. the US hasn't won gold in this event in over 2 decades. 1141 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,279 Could Nikki be the one to end the drought? 1142 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,680 I don't know. Already has a silver from 1143 01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,640 Glasgow. So there's, I think Nikki's just 1144 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,160 stacking championship experience and it's gonna breakthrough 1145 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:57,520 soon. So yeah, I think we're all 1146 01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:03,800 waiting for the outdoor medal by Nikki, but another indoor medal 1147 01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,560 would be very, very nice. So yeah. 1148 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,720 What the? In depth is dangerous though. 1149 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,000 Yes, I will. Say 1 random country shout out. 1150 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,800 I want to give Anita Hendrix dotter of Iceland. 1151 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,080 Oh my gosh, I know that one. Like she's a teenage sensation 1152 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,360 and like, disappeared off the face of the earth for a bit. 1153 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,240 Yes. So she won the she was the U18 1154 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:33,080 world champion way back in 2013. She came fifth at World indoors 1155 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:39,840 in Oregon in 2016 and yeah, yeah, 2016. 1156 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,160 So yes, she was. She's won a bronze medal at 1157 01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:47,640 European indoors in 2017. But yes, she has not really 1158 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:53,560 featured since 2017. Yeah, I do not know, but great 1159 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,440 to see her back. How old is she now? 1160 01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:02,160 I think she's 30 now, so she's not that old, but yeah, she's, 1161 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,320 yeah. Born in January 1996. 1162 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:11,240 What's old do you pre? I'm I'm ancient so but I 1163 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:18,880 comparison. No, you're you're a baby. 32 OK, 1164 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,400 yeah, I'm looking forward to this 1500 all over on the men's 1165 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:30,040 side, Hey, he's the best in the world outdoors, and he's going 1166 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,200 to have a chance to to claim the title of being the best in the 1167 01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:39,120 world indoors. Isaac Nader of Portugal arrives 1168 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,200 as the favorite in this one. Yeah. 1169 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:49,400 So how many people do you think are in this field from the 1170 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,880 Olympic 1500 meter final from 2024? 1171 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:57,000 Good question. I'm going to go to. 1172 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,400 It was to. Stefan. 1173 01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:05,520 Nielsen dropped out, so there's only one who's Pietro Arrezi of 1174 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:10,120 Italy, who's probably the one that fewest people could have 1175 01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:14,040 named of that Olympic 1500 meter field, but he did come in 8th 1176 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,120 place. Oh, you said Olympic. 1177 01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:17,600 What about World Championship last? 1178 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:21,000 Year's World Championships, yes. So from last year's World 1179 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,560 Championships, I think we have Isaac Nader, we have Federica 1180 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,880 Riva, Samuel Pilstrom and Robert Falcon. 1181 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:32,680 We. Have 4 athletes but again, Nader 1182 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,720 is the only one who really sort of featured in the mix there so. 1183 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,440 Because we'll touch on it soon, but like the Olympic 59 meter 1184 01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:41,320 podium from Paris is all in the 3K. 1185 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,240 Yes, indeed. Indeed, just funny how this all 1186 01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:50,960 shook out and because of I guess because Cole didn't put it 1187 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,600 together in at the US Championships, we were robbed of 1188 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,600 Cole Locker versus Isaac Nader in the 1500 at the World Indoor 1189 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,520 Championships, which I was looking forward to so much. 1190 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,800 Indeed indeed, we will have to wait till outdoors for that 1191 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,200 match up unfortunately. So the last time Portugal won 1192 01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:17,840 gold in this event was 22,000 and one Rui Silva when these 1193 01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:20,320 championships were held in Lisbon. 1194 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:26,320 Isaac Nader's final 100 meters in in Tokyo last year still 1195 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:30,360 replays in many people's minds as one of the biggest upsets of 1196 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,480 the championships. He's looked strong this entire 1197 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:41,400 indoor season, and he ended up running what was it, 330, 331 or 1198 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,280 330? Yeah, 331, Right. 1199 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,600 One. He's the second fastest in the 1200 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,000 world behind Cole's split in the mile correct. 1201 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:52,200 Who? Nader. 1202 01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,720 Yeah, yeah, 33244 is what he. Ran. 1203 01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:00,600 Oh OK so like 2 seconds back of what Cole split? 1204 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,120 Yes, there there haven't been many fast 1500s this. 1205 01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,560 So now when I'm looking at this field, I think his biggest 1206 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:15,480 competitor might be Samuel Chappell, which who I primarily 1207 01:14:15,480 --> 01:14:22,600 think of as an 800 guy, but he's coming in with a 1500 meter PB 1208 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:29,160 and Dutch record of 332 on this track last month, which is, 1209 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,800 yeah, I guess it's faster. Than he was the European indoor 1210 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,920 champion last year and yeah, he's he's decided to move up. 1211 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:39,640 So yeah, which is an intriguing move, but yeah, there we are. 1212 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,840 No Jakob this year, Luke Houser's back. 1213 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:48,600 He was the bronze medalist in Nanjing last year. 1214 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,400 He had to work a little extra hard by, you know, chasing the 1215 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:57,920 time to secure his spot. But could Nathan Green beat 1216 01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,760 Isaac Nader? I mean, this is the thing. 1217 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,320 If it's a kicker's race. Exactly like Nathan Green, Luke 1218 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:09,120 Hauser, they've proven that they have a serious kick in indoor 1219 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:14,560 races and they can get it done. So you never know what can 1220 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,120 happen. I mean, I, I don't really see 1221 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,360 it. But as I say, we, we've seen 1222 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,520 more surprise things. We've seen George Beamish do his 1223 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:28,080 thing a couple of years ago. And yeah, I, I, I, I don't, I 1224 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:33,000 think this field is so, you know, it's so much of A toss up 1225 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:36,720 beyond Nader. I think that anyone could 1226 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,840 feature if because again, I don't see any front runners in 1227 01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,560 this field who are going to take it out. 1228 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,760 And that just means that, you know, I think we could end up 1229 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,800 with a 335 race that that then is a bit of a kicker's race. 1230 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,240 So a. Lot of 800 guys in this one as 1231 01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,320 I'm looking at the field, Peter Sisk, who's a 143 guy. 1232 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,560 You don't want to leave it to a kicker's race against him. 1233 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:02,200 Yeah, you've got Mariano Garcia, who I mentioned before as like 1234 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:07,520 the 2022 World Indoor 800 champ. Don't leave it to the kick 1235 01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,560 against that guy either. Exactly. 1236 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,400 So I don't know. I honestly don't know what 1237 01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,720 Nader's sweet spot is here to try and give himself the best 1238 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,400 chance to win. So unless he just firmly 1239 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,000 believes he's got the best kick in the field, just like he did 1240 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,600 in Tokyo. Yeah, I have to say I really 1241 01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,000 wish George Beamish was in this field because I think he would 1242 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:36,400 be like probably a favorite for this one where maybe he's not so 1243 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,920 much of the 3K part. OK, so let's move to the 3K 1244 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:43,240 because all of the people who we think would be favourites in the 1245 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:49,440 1500 are in this one because you've got Cole Hawker, the 1246 01:16:49,440 --> 01:16:52,680 Olympic 1500m champion, world champion in the 5K. 1247 01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:59,320 You've got Josh Kerr who won this race at World Indoors in 1248 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:05,880 2024, right yard de Goose who got silver in that same race in 1249 01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:11,920 2024, George Beamish, who won the 1500 world title two years 1250 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,520 ago. This ended up being like, I 1251 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,040 guess we talked about Melrose and how good that field was. 1252 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:20,920 You got a lot of those guys returning in this one too. 1253 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,640 You add in some European stars, especially out of France, 1254 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:32,000 Azidine, Habs, Yan Shrub, Andrew Koskaran, Nick Griggs. 1255 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:38,720 So I'm probably pegging Cole Hawker as a favorite. 1256 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,600 I said it a couple weeks back, I was like, no matter what race 1257 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,200 this guy enters, like he's the guy now, he's the favorite. 1258 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,200 He's the he's the best distance runner in the world. 1259 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:54,680 But then he goes off and kind of he proved he's vulnerable, I 1260 01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:59,480 guess at the US Championships, finishing fifth in the 1500 1261 01:17:59,480 --> 01:18:03,280 final. But that I'm not, I'm going to 1262 01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,520 bury that one in the past. So I'm still going to go with 1263 01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:12,480 Cole as the gold medal favorite here because of just his speed 1264 01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:15,360 and strength that he's showcased all throughout the season. 1265 01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,960 Although it wouldn't shock me if Josh finds a way as well. 1266 01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,720 Championship Josh? Exactly. 1267 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:28,760 I did, yeah. I I'm putting my my money on on 1268 01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,480 championship. Josh, I think he. 1269 01:18:30,480 --> 01:18:33,000 Can bet Preet you're a member of the media. 1270 01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:37,440 You can't I. Know indeed I my hypothetical 1271 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:39,520 money on on on championship Josh. 1272 01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:44,080 I think Josh like I was just really impressed with the way he 1273 01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,080 came back from that injury and and performed at Millrose right. 1274 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,520 He got second at Millrose in a stacked field and you know, that 1275 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,000 was his first race back back from injury and I think he will 1276 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,640 have fine-tuned things since then. 1277 01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:04,680 And I, you know, if he shows up fit and healthy, I, I do think 1278 01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,760 Cole's going to have a tough time with him. 1279 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:15,240 And yeah, I mean, Yared, obviously we've seen Yared on 1280 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,680 fire in previous indoor seasons and it hasn't quite been the 1281 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,600 same. And I think he's had a bit of 1282 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,920 bad luck in terms of falling sick at the wrong times in some 1283 01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,520 of the around some of the races where we've seen him and and 1284 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,720 stuff. And I think he is very motivated 1285 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,840 after that. I think I saw an interview with 1286 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,720 with Dathan Ritzenheim about, about that. 1287 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,640 But, you know, and that he's he's ready to go. 1288 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:43,520 So, you know, I don't don't write him off, but I do think he 1289 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,920 might struggle to kind of, you know, get to get to all the way 1290 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:50,960 to the front. I kind of see what you're saying 1291 01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,680 sort of with with yard where it's like we know he loves the 1292 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:59,240 1500 and anything above that. He's always kind of just been 1293 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,960 not as thrilled about right when he was when he ran I think one 1294 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,360 indoor 5K right Hasn't he done that or? 1295 01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:10,640 Yeah, he won at BUI think once. Yeah, he'd swore it off for like 1296 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,040 the rest of his life. And even when he's run the 3K in 1297 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,920 the past. I mean, when he broke the 1298 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:21,200 American record of BU, like those are good moments, but you 1299 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,760 could tell in his heart of hearts, like he loves being 1300 01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:25,720 really good at the 1500 in that race. 1301 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,560 So I think what we just meant need is that that mental shift 1302 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:33,160 for yard to happen where it's like just forget about the fact 1303 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:38,120 that you missed the 1500 team and now twice at outdoors last 1304 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,560 year and indoors this time around and lean into the fact 1305 01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,040 that you might be better suited for this event. 1306 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:50,640 And just like I just want like that fire to be a little bit 1307 01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,440 stronger from yard, whereas it's always just kind of been like, 1308 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:58,160 bummer, I missed the 1500 team, but I guess I'll do the the 1309 01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:00,720 three. Ki wanted to be like, no, I'm in 1310 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,920 the 3K and I'm going to crush everybody. 1311 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,480 And I feel like that comes easier. 1312 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:12,080 And you it, it comes across more from Cole and Josh versus Yard 1313 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,080 being kind of a little bit more down on the fact that he's in 1314 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,240 this event. Yeah, yeah, there is a bit of 1315 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:21,040 that as well. I mean, on the flip side, we 1316 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,320 know how excited Yan Shrub is when he wins a 3K race. 1317 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:29,640 My God that speech that Kyle raved on about after his 3K. 1318 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,240 Someone translated it for us and sent it in to us. 1319 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:33,920 Oh, brilliant. I love it. 1320 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,760 Yeah. So he's, you know, I mean, I, I 1321 01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:44,240 still not sure how he'll be in a championship race, but yeah, I 1322 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,200 mean, he's the fastest, fastest guy going in. 1323 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,360 Andrew Costgren. We've seen how good he can be in 1324 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,440 a kicker's race. He won that race at Grand Slam 1325 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:58,040 very impressively. And George Beamish, I think this 1326 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,160 indoor season he just hasn't looked like that. 1327 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,840 Like, you know, obviously we saw him in the Mulrose 2 Mile and we 1328 01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,600 saw him at the ASIC Sound Invite. 1329 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:15,800 And I think the signs are that he's, you know, even if he falls 1330 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:22,560 off the pace, you think, oh, it's a, you know, his kick will 1331 01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,680 at least move him up a few places towards the end of the 1332 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,080 race. And it didn't feel like that was 1333 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,400 quite what was happening for him at at those races. 1334 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:39,120 So I'm not sure if we, you know, we can all hope, but I'm not 1335 01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,320 sure whether he's quite in, in, in in the form to, to repeat 1336 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,840 his, his exploits. Of. 1337 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:52,360 The the steeple final or the OR the 2024 world indoors but. 1338 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,280 Final 400's going to be really good in this one. 1339 01:22:56,600 --> 01:23:00,000 Yes, Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't see it being being 1340 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,480 crazy fast. I mean, we've obviously got a 1341 01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:04,600 couple of if you. Like Cole, get to the front. 1342 01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:07,360 It's not going to be fast at all, is it? 1343 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:12,200 Well, to be fair, he runs, he runs moderately fast, right like 1344 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:16,560 that yeah, 5K at Wells was was was sub 13. 1345 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:21,440 But yeah, I, yeah, I it's still not going to be anything too 1346 01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:27,640 crazy, so. Women's 3K for winning Hilu is 1347 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,040 looking for her third straight world indoor gold medal. 1348 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,520 Not all of them have come in the 3K. 1349 01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:39,040 She won the 1500 in Glasgow, the 3K in Nanjing and now comes into 1350 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:45,440 this one with an 824 PB from or seasons best from leaving 1351 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,280 Ethiopia. Has claimed 10 of the last 12 1352 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,160 medals in this event. One of them was claimed by Elie 1353 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,840 Saint Pierre who unfortunately had to withdraw from this meat 1354 01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,240 due to some personal circumstances. 1355 01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:04,640 No injury to report there when I talked to coach Mark Hoogan, 1356 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,240 just some personal stuff going on. 1357 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:11,040 And so she's unable to make it, but her team new bounce. 1358 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,160 Boston teammate Margo Appleton is stepping into her place. 1359 01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:20,160 Big shoes to to fill. But for Winnie, Hilu is joined 1360 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:26,200 by Ashlyn Baoueke, who I guess that that's a strong one too. 1361 01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:31,720 For Ethiopia, the biggest challengers will be Nadia 1362 01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:37,400 Botticletti, who has had the most interesting Q1 of 2026. 1363 01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:42,440 Between some cross country, some Rd. racing, little indoor track, 1364 01:24:42,440 --> 01:24:46,200 she's done it all. But World Indoors has been on 1365 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,200 her calendar this whole entire time. 1366 01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:52,200 Italy has not meddled in this one since 1985. 1367 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,000 Jess Hall is coming in fresh into this one, so while we did 1368 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,880 discuss her in the 1500, this is the event that will go first. 1369 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:00,880 She was. Well, she'll run the prelim on 1370 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,680 the first day of the 15. So she'll run the 15. 1371 01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,280 And then it's the 3K final on the second day on the Saturday 1372 01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,680 and then the 15 final on the Sunday. 1373 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,920 Busy weekend for her OK, but the prelim shouldn't take too much 1374 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,120 out of her. So she was the bronze medalist 1375 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:27,960 in this event in 2025 behind Hilu and Shelby Houlihan, who's 1376 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:31,440 not at this event. Linden Hall, you can look out 1377 01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:35,000 for her as well. She's had a really good season. 1378 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,400 She ran 827 in Boston. Emily McKay is the US champion. 1379 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:42,720 She's meddled at World Indoors in the past. 1380 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,680 She was the bronze medalist in the 1500 in 2024. 1381 01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:52,480 To take down LA Saint Pierre is a big deal, and so hopefully 1382 01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:59,280 she's feeding off of that to try and give it a go here then Yeah, 1383 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,400 man, it's a very diverse field. You want to add Japan? 1384 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:05,000 Izomi Tanaka making the trip out there. 1385 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,560 You got Kazakhstan. Nor Giroudo, who's a 1386 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,440 steeplechaser mostly that people know her as, but she'll go, you 1387 01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:15,120 know, running 3K without any barriers in the way this time 1388 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,080 around. Hannah Nuttall, Katie Snowden. 1389 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:25,400 That's the British duo. So yeah, I the Hilu versus 1390 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,800 Bataclede versus Jess Hall, that's how I'm sizing this one 1391 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,160 up. I think maybe I give the edge to 1392 01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:36,040 Bataclede. I, I mean, I, I, I give the edge 1393 01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:39,080 to Hilu. I think Hilu's the one Ethiopian 1394 01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:41,280 who I think her tactics are really good. 1395 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,000 She's obviously been a two time world indoor champion. 1396 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,720 She beat Bataclede in that race where she ran the world leader 1397 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,080 of 824. Bataclede ran 826 behind her. 1398 01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:57,800 So, you know, in that sense, she has a bit of an edge on in time 1399 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:01,840 and, and kind of in that race. Jess hole. 1400 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,880 I think The thing is we've we've seen kind of two Jess holes, 1401 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:07,960 right? Like, and it depends which one 1402 01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,120 turns up on the day, right? She's had some rough days and 1403 01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,040 she's had some really good days. And obviously the very best Jess 1404 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,800 Hole could win the gold medal. And. 1405 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,400 But if the other Jeff hold hands up, then then it may not be her 1406 01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,040 day. So, yeah, it'll be intriguing to 1407 01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,840 see. And she's also someone who might 1408 01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,880 want to take this race out. But then again, if she's got the 1409 01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,920 15 to come, she may not be the one to kind of necessarily want 1410 01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:38,720 to do that. I think there is a sneaky bronze 1411 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,920 up for grabs between the likes of Linden Hall, Emily Mackay. 1412 01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,960 Hannibal Melrose Games is very, very good, don't forget. 1413 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,720 Exactly. She she has an impressive kick 1414 01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:55,240 right to close. So if the race goes a little bit 1415 01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,520 slower, I think she could she could definitely feature up 1416 01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,880 there in that sort of top three as well. 1417 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,400 So yeah, I think there's there's a lot to look out for in this 1418 01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:07,240 race and yeah, it's gonna be a good watch. 1419 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:12,680 If the pace is lagging, watch for a very hard move from Emily 1420 01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:15,200 McKay with 400 meters to go. That's just been the signature, 1421 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,280 I think at this point. And now whether she holds on, 1422 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:19,920 that's that's a whole nother thing. 1423 01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,680 All right, we've made it through all of the track events. 1424 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:30,160 Preet, you asked for three minutes to get through the field 1425 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,840 events. And so I will give that to you. 1426 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:37,920 If you want to a full preview of the throws, you can listen to 1427 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,560 the Poly Throws Show and Anderson's got more on the 1428 01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:47,320 sprints plus the jumps over on the final leg YouTube channel 1429 01:28:47,480 --> 01:28:51,560 and podcast. But there's lots to look forward 1430 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,040 to in the field. Events from Mondo potentially 1431 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:57,640 looking to break his own record for the 16th time. 1432 01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:02,640 Gonna be challenged really hard by Emmanuel Corrales. 1433 01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,880 Anna Halls headlining the pentathlon field. 1434 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,920 So pre, you've got 3 minutes, Yeah. 1435 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:13,160 What are you looking forward to the most in the field events? 1436 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,480 Yeah, so let's start with woman's high jump. 1437 01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:18,560 Very quickly, that Yaroslava movie chick looks back. 1438 01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,360 That's the first final of these championships. 1439 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,840 Morning session, first day she jumped 2A3. 1440 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,480 Angelina Topitch has finally crossed 2 meters. 1441 01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,640 But we then have the Aussies, Alan Patterson, Nicola Olislagos 1442 01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,200 and Maria Zotzik, who got the silver medal in Tokyo last year. 1443 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,320 So that's a really good field there. 1444 01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,240 Women's pole vault. Eliza McCartney of New Zealand 1445 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:44,800 jumped 481. So. 1446 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:49,160 So that's quite interesting. And Tina Shoot a Slovenia is 1447 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:53,880 someone who's won multiple medals but never a gold medal in 1448 01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:57,360 so many different events. So like, I think we're all 1449 01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:02,120 rooting for her to get a medal. Women's long jump Larissa 1450 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,920 Yakapakino looking for redemption from last year's 1451 01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,040 World Championships where she didn't make it. 3 qualifying 1452 01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:14,960 jump 693 Agatus D'souza goes in as the first jump of the year 1453 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,720 from Portugal with 697 and there's medal opportunities I 1454 01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,280 think for for Jasmine Moore and money Nichols as well. 1455 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,760 The triple jump on the women's side, you Lamar Rojas looking 1456 01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:31,040 back to her best has jumped 1495 and I think that is what the 1457 01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:32,800 triple jump, women's triple jump needed. 1458 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:37,040 So great to see her back and that can be a lot of fun. 1459 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,240 The women's shop is always the big one. 1460 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,760 All the big guns are there. Jess Shoulder, chess Jackson, 1461 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,960 MEC Ogun Leigh Olympic champion and Sarah Mitten. 1462 01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:50,880 They've all jumped all thrown over 20 meters this season. 1463 01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,000 And they are going to be challenged by newly crowned NCAA 1464 01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:57,760 champion Axelina Johansson of Sweden. 1465 01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:01,160 So I'm sure Pauli throws will have a more detailed preview on 1466 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,400 that one for us all. And then in pentathlon, yeah. 1467 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:11,160 Anna Hall, world record watch. She she's she scored 5004 points 1468 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,440 a couple of years ago at the US champs. 1469 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:19,880 She's 50 points, 51 points off the world record set by Nafi 1470 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:21,160 Shiyam. The whole entire time. 1471 01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:25,240 And yes, so I think she's she's definitely got there. 1472 01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,960 There's two medal hopes for the poles for the home crowd, 1473 01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:31,560 Paulina Lagasca and Adriana Sue, like Schubert, who were both 1474 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,560 like Schubert returning from pregnancy a couple of years ago 1475 01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:38,680 as finally kind of starting to get back to some of her best 1476 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,960 form. Abigail Paula of the UK, Kate 1477 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:47,400 O'Connor and Talia Brooks, medallists from Tokyo also in 1478 01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,760 this field. So that's three of the four 1479 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,720 people from the podium in Tokyo in this field. 1480 01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,640 So this is going to be a fantastic competition on the 1481 01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:59,760 Sunday. And then for the men's field 1482 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:08,040 events, we have high jump, seven guys over 230, which hasn't 1483 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,040 happened. Well, last year we got nine guys 1484 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,320 over 230 the whole year and we've already got 7 guys this 1485 01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,560 year. So maybe that event is finally 1486 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:18,200 back after a bit of a down year in the last couple of years. 1487 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:23,680 Pole vault is probably the pick of the field events, as you 1488 01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,680 mentioned, five guys over 6 meters in this field. 1489 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:34,040 Mondo world record watch. Can Corrales challenge him? 1490 01:32:35,240 --> 01:32:38,520 Sandra Thompson has finally got back over 6 meters after doing 1491 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,120 it in the NCAA couple of years ago. 1492 01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,920 Zach Bradford is the US medal hope, I think. 1493 01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,360 But Nielsen is also a world medallist, past world medallist, 1494 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,080 so you never know. So I think there's a there's a 1495 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:55,600 lot of the pole boy is probably the pick of the field events. 1496 01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,560 The men's long jump. Bozador Saraba Yukov and Mathiya 1497 01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:04,640 Fulani are really, you know, really leading the way on that 1498 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:05,680 one. They've had some fantastic 1499 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,640 competitions, but Tantoglou is back and jumping well. 1500 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:14,480 He's jumped 832 this season. The 2 two of the big Jamaicans 1501 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:17,080 are there, Taja Gale and Kerry McLeod. 1502 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,200 But the most interesting entrant in the long jump is Luvo 1503 01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:26,280 Manonga, the 2017 world champion, who very famously kind 1504 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:30,000 of a suffered with, with drug addiction, sort of disappeared 1505 01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,360 for about 7 years and is now back to a world class level. 1506 01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,560 So that's an incredible story to see. 1507 01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:43,040 And then men's triple jump, nothing exciting to report. 1508 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,960 So I'm going to skip past that one. 1509 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,160 That's probably the least exciting of the events. 1510 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:56,520 And then men shot put potential for an American sweep because 1511 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,280 we've got three guys in there from the US. 1512 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:05,080 Leonardo Fabri, can he finally deliver like at A championships 1513 01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,320 and get a gold medal? Because he's but he's never, 1514 01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:12,000 he's never got it right, fully right at the championships. 1515 01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,280 So, yeah. And then in the Teflon on the 1516 01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:19,040 men's side, Cole Garland comes in. 1517 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,600 We don't really know what his forms like, but he's one of the 1518 01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,280 highest. I think he's the second highest 1519 01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,520 scorer in history behind Ashton Eaton. 1520 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,520 And if he gets it right, there's a gold medal there for him. 1521 01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:34,200 And he's probably his biggest competition will be Simon E 1522 01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:39,480 Hammer of Switzerland. So yeah, that's a quick rundown 1523 01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:41,760 of the field events. There we go. 1524 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:46,280 So if you want to tune into all of the action at the World 1525 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:50,120 Indoor Championships and you're in the East Coast, there's going 1526 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,800 to be some early morning stuff. I guess like I'm looking at this 1527 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,920 now. I converted the schedule and a 1528 01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,920 lot of it will be mostly in the afternoon. 1529 01:34:59,920 --> 01:35:05,560 You've got a couple high jump and relay finals, shot put and 1530 01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:07,800 long jump. Those are all before 7:00 AM. 1531 01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:12,560 But for the most part things will be, you know, between 12:55 1532 01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:19,720 PM and 4:30 PM on most days. So a pretty, pretty good 1533 01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,840 schedule to tune into all the main stuff. 1534 01:35:22,840 --> 01:35:26,400 So we'll probably put together a schedule graphic on the CDs Mag 1535 01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,480 Instagram that will pin to our profile with details on how to 1536 01:35:29,480 --> 01:35:32,080 watch everything. And we'll do the time 1537 01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:36,240 conversions for you as well. And Preet will be in the mix 1538 01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:38,680 zone bringing everyone some interviews. 1539 01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:42,360 We'll have graphics and photos all throughout the weekend with 1540 01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:46,960 results and much more. So stay tuned to everything on 1541 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,240 the CDs Mag channels all throughout the weekend as we 1542 01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:54,440 bring you coverage from the 2026 World Indoor Championships. 1543 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:57,920 Preet, have a great time in Poland. 1544 01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:00,520 Is there anything you're looking forward to off the track that 1545 01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,800 you're going to try and do some exploring? 1546 01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:07,800 Well, apparently gingerbread is is that is very famous from 1547 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,280 Toran. And the other thing is it is a 1548 01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:13,920 city where Copernicus was born. So hence the the me actually 1549 01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:16,840 that takes place there is called the Copernicus Copernicus Cup. 1550 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,960 So I think there's a there's a museum there or something that I 1551 01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:21,960 might try and try and check out while I'm there. 1552 01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:25,560 So yeah, should be good. My first time in Poland. 1553 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,200 So, so excited for that. Oh. 1554 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,240 Cool. Yeah, sometimes I always just 1555 01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,880 figure that you've bopped around to every country out in Europe 1556 01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,200 because it's so easy for you guys to just get on a Ryanair 1557 01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,560 flight to all these different places. 1558 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:42,480 Easy. Yeah, there's there's a lot of, 1559 01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:44,560 yeah, there's a lot of countries in Europe. 1560 01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,600 So there's a whole bunch of Slav visited yet. 1561 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,000 So yeah, this is this is a good excuse to go. 1562 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,160 Yeah, All right. Well, enjoy some gingerbread 1563 01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,280 this weekend. Preet. 1564 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,560 Thanks for doing this, listeners. 1565 01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:00,200 Thanks for tuning in, listening, watching with us. 1566 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:04,920 We will be back in your feeds tomorrow with an interview 1567 01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,560 episode. And then after that, we'll be 1568 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:14,080 back next week with a recap of World Indoors. 1569 01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:17,080 And Preet can tell us all about his first time in Poland. 1570 01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,680 So there you have it. 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