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All right, Welcome to the Armory
Track and Field Center here in 

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New York City. 
I'm Chris Chavez, joined by the 

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full city of SMAG analyst crew. 
We got Eric Jenkins, Aisha 

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Pratt, Lear Anderson, Emeril. 
And welcome back Kyle Merber. 

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I I was here last. 
Week. 

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All right, we've got the Milrose
Games on tap this weekend. 

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Best meet of the indoor season 
overall. 

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How are how are we feeling about
the vibes? 

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Aisha, you're fresh off the the 
plane. 

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Right. 
I came directly from the plane 

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to the car. 
Now we're at the club and it is 

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popping in here. 
I'm so excited. 

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Melrose Games is my favorite 
track and field meet in the 

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world. 
Maybe I'm excited. 

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Eric. 
Brings back memories, brings 

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back great memories. 
It's always fun here at the 

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Armory. 
Energy's Electric. 

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Everybody, all the competitors 
are here getting their pre meet 

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in, so tensions high in here but
it's going to be a banger 

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tomorrow. 
Anderson, you got the chance to 

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be at the press conference 
yesterday. 

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What is the general feel from 
the athletes so far? 

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The athletes are loving it. 
They hooked them up with like 

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Wheaties boxes from Melrose. 
The whole situation. 

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It was it was pretty dope. 
But now I'm excited. 

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This is like the meat. 
It's the indoor meat. 

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Kyle, I guess what's it, what's 
it like, I guess, to be back at 

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a track meet after not showing 
your face for a while? 

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Yeah, I got egged on the way in.
Yeah, But there's protesters 

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outside that. 
That was for me, I think. 

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Yeah, but we persevere. 
No, it's great. 

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I always like the day before. 
I feel like you're at the race 

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track, You're watching the 
horses trot around right before 

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the race, see who you want to 
bet on. 

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Hobbs. 
Kessler did a lot of strides. 

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What does that mean? 
Yeah, I don't know. 

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Also on the note of betting, the
athletes got in trouble this 

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past week. 
Did you see that story? 

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Yeah, I feel like you should be 
allowed to bet, to win you. 

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Should be able to bet a little 
a. 

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Little. 
Bit also. 

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Is betting on your teammates 
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Public service announcement from
the two of us. 

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We talk a lot about betting on 
our podcast and let me just make

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it clear, if you're a current 
athlete, you can't bet. 

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We're doing these lines for your
friends and family, okay? 

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Not for you. 
Yeah, that might not be allowed 

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either. 
We're just throwing that out 

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there. 
Yeah, we. 

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Might. 
Again, you're not allowed to do 

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that. 
Either don't do that either. 

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Yeah, I, I saw that part of the 
punishment, it was like these, 

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it was short suspensions, you 
know, three months, six months. 

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And then the other part of it 
was like they had to take a 

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course from like the IOC to 
learn about like the dangers of 

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gambling and all that stuff. 
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stating here, we're like maybe 
we should probably also be able.

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To fire one of those up, No 
problem. 

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All right, so we've got two 
hours of incredible track and 

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field in store tomorrow. 
You'll be able to watch it on 

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NBC and on Peacock from 4:00 to 
6:00 PM. 

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And for today's Citius Mac 
preview, we're going to go 

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through the course of the entire
schedule, touching on all of the

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the big races and who to watch, 
what the big storyline is. 

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And so I'm pulling up the 
schedule right now. 

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While you're doing that, can I 
pose a question for the group? 

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So we've all been to many 
Melrose Games. 

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It's always Friday night to some
point Sunday night. 

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What do we think of the Sunday 
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Because we've seen everything. 
Is it so? 

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Is it usually sat? 
Like what does it tend to be on?

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Does it tend to fall on 
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Saturday night? 
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What NBC wants, I think, but I 
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like midnight basically. 
Like late night. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
What do we like? 

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If we want to get into the prime
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get get this thing back in the 
garden, you know, have it Friday

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night prime time, but I don't I 
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it's great. 
It gives everybody a chance to 

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get here. 
It gives everybody a chance to 

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to enjoy a great weekend of 
track and field. 

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The. 
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getting it back to the Madison 
Square Garden is my my what is 

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it it seats 25,030 thousand 
people I'm like I I like how 

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intimate it is here my worry is 
that it wouldn't sell out and 

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there'd be a lot of like empty 
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Well, yeah, it's not selling 
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No, it's not selling out. 
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their tough time selling 
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So that's my only hesitancy on 
like the calls to like, oh, 

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let's bring this back to, to to 
the garden. 

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I I, I think I prefer personally
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Night or afternoon? 
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good to me. 6:00 to 6:00 to 8:00
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Perfect time slot. 
You, you got, you know, you got 

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all of Sunday tomorrow to 
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we're on Monday, you know, after
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Gotta go back to the office. 
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Yeah, right. 
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past, like the, the time slot 
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It's like sometimes it feels 
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at, you know, 10:11 PM at night.
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earlier for us personally 
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As an athlete, when you're 
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night, that is hard. 
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You have to caffeinate super 
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You're not going to bed until 
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Kind of like the schedule for 
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Now the the good thing is that 
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I think it was, it overlapped 
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I was like OK now. 
We're just shoot, that was 

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we're. 
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here, like we're like, we just 
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Even with like a Super Bowl 
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At least like this this weekend,
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I mean, the Grammys are 
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Oh, I got bad Boney. 
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I don't know if it's tonight or 
is it tomorrow. 

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I bet on back to betting. 
I bet on Bad Bunny winning best 

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album of the year, best album of
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rails. 
So I got a lot of money riding 

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on your suggestions you're. 
Going to get in trouble for 

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that. 
But the IOC is going to make you

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watch a video. 
You're in even more trouble than

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you were before. 
I'm sure Grammys are on Sunday. 

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Grammy Sunday. 
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All right, Chris. 
Realison. 

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Yeah, all. 
Right, All right. 

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So the action kicks off at 4:00 
PM and it the first event is the

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women's 60m hurdles. 60 hurdles 
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Women, this is an event that the
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Demon Charlton broke the world 
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Yup, in at mill rows. 
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the World Indoor. 
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championships. 
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her world indoor title. 
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press conference yesterday, she 
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she believes she's the greatest 
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just continue to cement herself.
Now her season, she just started

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last week she was in Boston. 
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hopefully get the win, improve 
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But she's looking to like, 
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get to the world indoor champs, 
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which no one else has done in 
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But she has some competition, 
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I mean, she's got Danielle 
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World outdoor champ. 
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in the 60 hurdles. 
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Boston. 
Christina. 

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Clemens is in it. 
Megan Simmons, you got a lot of 

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Jamaicans running indoors. 
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Seeing Jamaicans run indoors 
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I guess maybe more the 
sprinters, but they get a bad 

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rap of like you never crazy, you
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We never get to see them like 
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to see them indoors like most of
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So seeing Megan Simmons, Daniel 
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about that? 
Cart. 

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I don't even know if I this is. 
The magic This is the magic of 

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the Armory. 
There is some people pulling 

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some industrial carts it. 
Is so loudly it's like to be. 

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Throwing up in a corner. 
Doing a bit, yeah. 

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Yeah, it's a good. 
I like that bit. 

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It's not really good. 
Someone in here who you didn't 

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mention that I do want to just 
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is Denisha Cartwright because we
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year, World Indoors. 
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She she almost gets that first 
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Too fast, yeah, She's like 
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She's exploding from the blocks 
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fast. 
And maybe that hinders her a 

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little bit, but she has so much 
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So much potential. 
So that's why I'm throwing the 

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dark horse out there right now. 
Are you saying Danielle Williams

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is the favorite after New 
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say Devin's Devin? 
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probably still the favorite. 
I think Devin is going to take a

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little time to get going because
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her season didn't look that 
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get the gold medal at the World 
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I I think Daniel Williams looks 
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So that's who you're taking? 
That's what I'm taking. 

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I'm I'm sticking with Daniel 
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All right. 
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field maybe not as strong as it 
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Week. 
I Trey Cunningham, I think who 

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won last last week's race, just 
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I think a couple moments ago out
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Been OK, It might have been 
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on. 
I didn't even see that yet. 

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Yeah, so he's out there this 
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Daniel Roberts there in this 
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Dylan Beard. 
Shout out to Dylan Beard, man, 

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he is like rocking it. 
He's been to Milrose games I 

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think 2, two years in a row. 
Yeah, he's been a champ and and 

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this he has his personal best 
here. 

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Like Dylan Beard is. 
He's a guy that I think people 

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should keep looking out for now.
He's kind of like just getting 

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rolling. 
But I mean, he wants to get onto

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the world indoor team. 
He wants to and he's still 

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repping for Sam's Club, like 
he's still representing and like

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wearing it. 
Very, very proud. 

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This is very proud that kind of 
for you. 

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In your head, you started 
thinking it was like, well, he 

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could probably, you know, put 
together a really good race 

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against Grant Holloway. 
And if if Grant is truly all in 

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on the 60 flat this year, which 
it seems like it seems like 

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signs are pointing to that. 
I think he's running this 

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Friday. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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So including Trey from last week
and in this field, are these the

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favorites for world indoors 
right now, you think? 

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Well, so Cordell Tinch, this is 
his last meet of the year. 

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He's not really. 
Yeah, he's not running a full 

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indoor seat. 
He said that he doesn't even 

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like the 60 hurdles despite, you
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outdoor champ in the one 10s 
Daniel Roberts, he's coming back

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from injury. 
Shout out to him. 

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He's a newly signed. 
You got his whole situation kind

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of figured out, so. 
He signed back with Nike. 

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Signed back with Nike, Yeah. 
After he kind of took a shot at 

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the. 
Event He won an Olympic medal 

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and they got dropped. 
Like I take shots too. 

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I don't know. 
Well, it worked. 

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It worked. 
I mean, yeah, clearly so so 

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it'll be we'll see how he 
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But I I think Dylan Beard, he'll
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because he won Mill Rose last 
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He didn't make the team to World
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So, but this is a meet where 
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indicator of like going for the 
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So you're picking Dylan Beard? 
I think Dylan is the guy here. 

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All right, so if we continue to 
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Josette Andrews was one of the 
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longer racing. 
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and training because I I saw her
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the team in in Scottsdale. 
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professionals in this one will 
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Courtney Wayman, Lauren Ryan, 
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Riley, and then you when you get
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they're the ones who probably 
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got the likes of Doris 
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Riley Chamberlain as your your 
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This feels like it's going to be
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this will be the only time 
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probably come out on top in this
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underestimate Doris and Jane. 
They are athletes that. 

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I mean, Doris Lemon goalie was 
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outdoor. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Like, we the level that these 

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women are racing in the NCAA is 
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professional ranks. 
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they're college kids, but they 
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And we get to see them go head 
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them go head to head all year. 
This is the start of something 

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very exciting. 
Eric, what was the most 

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impressive thing I think you've 
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Because if she ran right cross 
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the 5K at BU, then from there, 
I'm assuming getting putting in 

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a good block of training. 
What would you want to come out 

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of this race with? 
Like, in terms of just like a 

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good measuring stick before the 
NCA championships? 

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I mean the, the Jane and Doris 
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it's been fantastic so far. 
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another add addition to that. 
Doris came out on top and cross 

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country, but like you said, Jane
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season at BU 1444, I believe, 
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that going. 
This like Aisha said, it's like,

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certainly are absolutely at a 
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and their racing abilities. 
I think you've seen it before. 

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work and and and pressing the 
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that's something she's going to 
do again tomorrow. 

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I know like Doris kind of sat on
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and it looked like Jane did a 
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Doris was able to capitalize on 
that, but Jane's in clearly next

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level fitness right now are 
shapes at fantastic after that 

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5K. 
So I mean it's tough to sit the 

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how like how are you going to 
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I think maybe I'd go with Jane 
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performances, but it's really 
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Yeah, cuz right now the only 
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for Doris, cuz I think she had a
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her indoor season when she ran 
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Clemson last weekend. 
Is that enough to tell you 

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anything? 
It says that you're getting into

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shape after great fall. 
But yeah, on paper it's Doris 

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and Jane. 
But I do think like, there's a 

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couple names. 
And I want Preet to be happy 

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that I mentioned Hannah Natal. 
So she just had a great race in 

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Boston. 
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is not as deep as what we saw in
New Balance, like straight up. 

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And so the fact that she was 
just, you know, I think she 

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finished fifth, like she was 
only just a little bit behind, 

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ran a personal best. 
And you know, she improves on 

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that a little bit with the race 
under her legs. 

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Like, you know, who's to say 
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I don't think we're getting the 
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I don't think we're going to 
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So, you know, if you're in the 
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doable. 
And then the other name I'm 

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looking at is Lauren Ryan 
because she just ran great at 

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World Cross, one of the first 
non African athletes. 

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I believe she finished 13th. 
And you know, she had a great 

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track season last year and seems
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you can't sleep on Australians 
in the winter. 

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She's kind of caught in this in 
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of like she's dabbling. 
She's run I think 1/2 marathon 

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or two at up at this point. 
And then, you know, run. 

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Ran really well in the 10K at 
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Top 10. 
Yeah, and then now it's just 

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sort of kind of like hovering 
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three K 5K that, you know, that 
versatility is super impressive 

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from from Lauren Ryan. 
The I guess like my only thought

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when we were discussing this 
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recording was sort of like this 
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like that one more just sort of 
star that we could really push 

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it from the front. 
And it's sort of like you look, 

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it's like, I know the Wanamaker 
is like the sexy event here, but

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you kind of wish. 
It's like, oh, what if Jess Hall

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had opted for this one as a way 
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sort of like off race that she 
had in Boston. 

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But I think regardless, we're 
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from both Doris and and Jane. 
It's it's early in the program. 

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It's the appetizer warms us up. 
We don't want to come out too. 

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Hot. 
I've said this plenty of times 

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before. 
Yeah, Tease me a little bit. 

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Don't, don't, don't. 
Let's a little bit of foreplay. 

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Let's dive into at the end, 
what's the collegiate record? 

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Good question. 
Like that. 

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I would imagine that's something
that's certainly on the table 

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for Jane and Doris. 
I believe it is. 

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Say what you believe. 
Don't look up. 

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Yeah, I think. 
I think it's yeah. 

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Go cute from the heart. 
I think it's What do you believe

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it should be I. 
Think it's 824? 

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What is it actually? 
824 seems very. 

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Fast No, no, no. 
But there have been no but every

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I. 
Think it might be 8 No 82824 by 

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Caitlin Toohey 820. 4834 I don't
know. 

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I got it. 
Four seats. 

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We're going just off of beliefs.
Now I was way off 835 by Caitlin

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too here. 
There we go this. 

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Is just the warm up, right? 
Yeah. 

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Her. 
Potential. 

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He was like, I think that day 
she backed her. 

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Yeah, she put her. 
All right, but that's going 

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down. 
That seems like that's for for 

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sure in the wheelhouse, yeah. 
I mean, both Jane and Doris will

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probably push each other under 
that mark. 

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The thing that scares me is just
sort of like that we, it's just 

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how fit Doris is. 
Like she's running on this upper

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level just now and heard us 
probably talking about her. 

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But it it, there's already this 
buzz about what she's planning 

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to throw down at BU in like 2 
weeks at the Valentine meet. 

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There's a hot, hot, some hot 
Goss that she's going to be 

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targeting 1440. 
They can't tell Chris anything. 

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Yeah, just found that out. 
He immediately goes live and 

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just like, guess what everyone? 
Yeah, Doris is like, hey, Chris,

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can you not say anything? 
He's like, for sure. 

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Yeah, He's like Doris. 
I would never. 

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She's. 
In shape, anyway. 

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I I've I've always said I don't 
believe we should be talking 

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about the PU Valentine meet at 
at the at mill roads. 

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He's. 
All the time. 

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I always have been saying that I
think if Doris is already 

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talking about be you Valentine, 
she's overlooked Jane Edengrid 

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pretty, pretty seriously. 
And maybe we should. 

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Let's get through tomorrow. 
Yeah. 

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You've certainly got your hands 
full with that. 

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So. 
And then we can worry about 

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Valentine. 
Yeah, but who know? 

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I have. 
I didn't hear the gossip. 

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I wasn't Privy to this until 
right now. 

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So I'm processing this in real 
time. 

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So. 
But we'll we'll figure it out 

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later. 
As we saw last year, though, the

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new track here is very, very 
fast. 

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Well, blue's the fastest color 
I. 

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Said this for you. 
I did walk in today and I I was 

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like oh shit, I forgot it's 
blew. 

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Down it is. 
It is different, yeah. 

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What were you saying before 
that? 

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Oh, I was saying everybody talks
about going to be you, but you 

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could come here and run faster 
and it's a hell of a lot more 

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fun. 
Yeah, they removed 5 layers off 

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the track for a reason, to make 
it faster. 

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All right, so that we're all 
right, let's throw predictions 

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out who's who's winning the race
and then who wins the battle 

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between Doris and and Jane. 
I think, I think Jane's gonna 

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win over all. 
So she she's gonna win that 

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battle. 
New collegiate record. 

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I'll go, I'll go 8. 
I think 8, maybe 829. 

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OK. 
I think that's, I think that 

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that is fast. 
But I think it's she's certainly

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in that type of shape. 
It it it appears so far. 

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So I that's what I'm gonna meet.
Record is a belief. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
I'm taking Doris in Collegiate 

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Record 831 because Doris has way
more experience racing in 

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professional fields. 
Than Jane. 

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I'm going to go Jane. 
Overall win 820. 

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What did I predict? 
The collegiate record was 

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820-5824. 
Yeah, you said 8824 and then? 

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She's going to run that 824. 
I'm. 

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Going to go Jane 828. 
I I think Doris being a 

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steeplechaser, probably is 
thinking very long term about 

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the season and I I don't think 
she should be worrying too much 

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about beats in January, February
and think more about where the 

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money is made. 
All right, I, I think Doris, I, 

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I like Doris specifically 
because of that experience, even

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though I, I agree like the long 
term, you know, strategy might 

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be in her mind, but I think a 
meat like this is going to be 

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pretty big for Doris. 
And she's thinking, all right, 

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let me make sure I can get this 
so maybe I can get in the mind 

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of Jane going into the rest of 
the year. 

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The funny thing, before this, 
when we started recording, I was

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like, Oh yeah. 
I mean, like Anderson can be 

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part of the distance discussion.
And we're like, Anderson's the 

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only one of all of us who's 
running a spring marathon. 

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So he. 
He definitely can actually 

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bring. 
In the distance discussion. 

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All right, so but we're all in 
agreement. 

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It's one of the one of those two
college kids is going to win the

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race. 
Agreed. 

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Yeah, OK. 
All right, let's move on over 

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now to the women's 600, which 
has got Michaela Rose, Olivia 

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Baker, Ajay Wilson, Rocheen 
Willis, Anais Bourgeois and 

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Juliette Whitaker. 
This one got a little bit more 

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interesting after yesterday when
Rocheen Willis goes out to BU 

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and blasts a 157 getting on the 
train or a very short flight, I 

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presume, to make it out here to 
New York City. 

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And I can only imagine that what
she felt super comfortable 

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through 600 meters that it's 
going to be. 

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I mean, we could be on another 
American record. 

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Watch here. 
It's kind of an interesting you 

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only see moves like that as far 
as racing schedule goes. 

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For someone like Rosheen to come
to yesterday indoor American 

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record in the 8 and now the a 
day later doing a 600 against a 

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field this this stacked at 
Melrose, you just don't see it 

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much. 
It's kind of a rare move. 

449
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,600
So we'll see how that pays out 
indoors. 

450
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,520
I'm sure and that's that's. 
But the problem is she's not 

451
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,480
going for world indoors, which 
is which maybe after yesterday 

452
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,960
you start to rethink a little 
bit. 

453
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:48,440
You're like, I just ran 157, the
second fastest person in the 

454
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,840
world right now. 
I know we're thinking long term,

455
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,840
bigger picture, but you could 
get a world medal. 

456
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,760
And then backing it up with 
another race is another data 

457
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,960
point that could prove her to 
change her mind right? 

458
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,880
Like if you can bounce back off 
of that and race really well 

459
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,560
against a strong field and a 
six, you might change your mind 

460
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,160
that like, hey, I've got a got a
shot in the medal. 

461
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:18,120
The American record right now is
123.57 by a Thing MO and the 

462
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:22,080
world record is 123.41 by Keely 
Hodgkinson. 

463
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,280
I don't know if we're getting 
world record, but this is a 

464
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:30,840
really strong field. 
I think AJ Wilson, who had an 

465
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,160
unbeaten streak here at the 
Armory from 2014 up until I kind

466
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,720
of, I looked this up, it was 
only just snapped last weekend 

467
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,760
at Doctor Sander when she 
finished, I think it was like 

468
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,800
third in the 800. 
The caveat is that she hadn't 

469
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,840
raced at the Armory in the last 
two years. 

470
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:51,120
So, but still, regardless, from 
2014 all the way up to 2023, 

471
00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,360
that's a decade of dominance by 
Audrey Wilson. 

472
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:55,600
This is her track for all. 
Audrey's Pass. 

473
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,200
Yeah, yeah. 
Where it's like you just when 

474
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,600
you watch these races and if it 
even if Audrey's doesn't go with

475
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,160
the rabbit right away or sits in
3rd, you're still thinking like 

476
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,080
she's she knows what she's 
doing. 

477
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,200
Like she might have a chance of 
winning this, but she's gonna 

478
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,160
have her hands full. 
Here. 

479
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,880
I mean, I think you also just 
have to look at who's gonna be 

480
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:14,760
getting the pole position. 
You know, it's Michaela. 

481
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,960
Don't sleep on Olivia Baker 
though, either. 

482
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Olivia loves to take it out hot 
too. 

483
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,680
And you know, she just had a 
good race Doctor Sanders, she's 

484
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,240
fit. 
So I mean, it might be really 

485
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,840
crowded for 600. 
There's a lot of women who, you 

486
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,760
know, are probably going to be 
in that mid 1/21/24 1:25 range. 

487
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,760
And then also just, you know, 
for American listeners, an ace 

488
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,160
Bourjon like you're in 156 last 
spring. 

489
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Like, let's not sleep on her. 
Granted, she does come at it 

490
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,080
from a little bit more of a 
strength angle, but she was here

491
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,760
at the Doctor Sander invite. 
She ran A400200 double. 

492
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,440
Oh, I didn't see that. 
Not necessarily something that 

493
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,520
says like you're going to run 
123, but she got things started 

494
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,480
and you can't sleep on 156. 
And it's like an indoor 600 is 

495
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,560
really, if, if you're out in 
front getting that early lead, 

496
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,400
it's going to be tough. 
You know, you really can't make 

497
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,640
mistakes. 
You can't sit in the back and 

498
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,000
expect to make big moves in an 
indoor 600. 

499
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,680
It's just the turns are tight 
and there's not really enough 

500
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,760
time to navigate. 
So you got to, I'm sure all the 

501
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,120
the, the athletes tomorrow are 
going to be really fighting for 

502
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:21,360
that, those top spots. 
So what do you think of because 

503
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,000
Michaela Rose, right, she always
goes out hard, but considering 

504
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,040
this is a six as opposed to an 
8, do we think that she'll be 

505
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,520
able to maintain that? 
I think she's got a better shot,

506
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:31,320
yeah. 
A better shot. 

507
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,520
It's less room to die, right? 
Exactly, exactly, yeah, I I I 

508
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,480
would like that racing strategy 
more today like tomorrow in an 

509
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,920
indoor 6 as a like I I would 
assume don't change your 

510
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,160
strategy. 
Now this is where you go. 

511
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,920
You do the exact same thing 
maybe in the in the outdoor 8 

512
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,120
hundreds, like let's let's not 
go because which is not by. 

513
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:56,640
I think I do like that strategy 
tomorrow. 

514
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,680
What do we make I guess so far 
of just Rosheen Willis's rise, I

515
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,640
guess, and she's very 
intentional, I guess for this 

516
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,120
year to be a year to chase time,
something that she really 

517
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:10,000
hasn't, you know, been able to 
do through the NCAA system. 

518
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,080
She definitely prefers more 
championship style races. 

519
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,360
But after yesterday and the last
two weeks, really like she's 

520
00:25:16,360 --> 00:25:20,040
emerging as potentially like 
America is with, you know, in 

521
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,160
the absence of a thing MO we we 
had sage her to Klecker finished

522
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,800
fifth in the world last year. 
But Rosheen, it could be the 

523
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,320
future. 
Yeah, I think, look, I mean, 

524
00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:34,520
Rosheen has publicly stated like
her battles with anxiety and, 

525
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,920
you know, obviously last year at
the end of the season she was 

526
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,720
doing great. 
And but that is there's 

527
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,440
something about an offseason or 
an off year when it is just 

528
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:44,600
about chasing time, beating 
people. 

529
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,880
Like the pressure's off a little
bit. 

530
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,400
Now she's in a professional 
uniform. 

531
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,240
Like what an amazing on ramp to 
a hopefully a very long 

532
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,480
successful professional career. 
But to come out here, obviously 

533
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,040
it'd be you like proving the 
fitness now a slightly bigger 

534
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,520
stage, but with a ton of 
momentum behind her. 

535
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,560
I feel really good as this being
a launchpad. 

536
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,400
For the entire year. 
It is a launchpad and when you 

537
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,800
want to race professional meets,
when you want to be in the 

538
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,280
Diamond Link, you have to have 
the fast times to back it up to 

539
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,360
even get your position on the 
starting line. 

540
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,560
So she's making that, making 
that known, getting it done so 

541
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,160
that next year she's where she 
needs to be. 

542
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,960
And as of right now, like it 
just she made the decision 

543
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,760
consciously about just sort of 
like the NCAA system. 

544
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,920
Like for all intents and 
purposes, yes, you learn how to 

545
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,840
be a really good championship 
racer and you and you can 

546
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,520
navigate the rounds. 
And like she proved she knows 

547
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,560
how to do that by winning USAS 
last year. 

548
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,440
So it's like, why put yourself 
through another full year of 

549
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600
doing that? 
And so she's made that conscious

550
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,000
decision is like, I don't want 
to over race myself this year. 

551
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,800
I don't want to have to run two 
or three events at, you know, my

552
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,360
conference championship. 
This is, you know, you're to 

553
00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:50,160
lean into really hard training. 
She's staying, she's staying out

554
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,920
in at Stanford until she gets 
her degree. 

555
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,160
I would never leave Stanford. 
If you would have plopped me 

556
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560
down and be like, you go to 
Stanford. 

557
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,280
I'd be like, well, I live here 
the rest of my life. 

558
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,520
Yeah. 
Perfect conditions. 

559
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,960
And your life would have been 
different, Kyle. 

560
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,960
Good have been. 
Coached coach JJ Clark doing a 

561
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,520
great job and so I think there's
just tons to look forward to 

562
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,000
with Rasheen, especially given 
how great yesterday's 

563
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,880
performance was. 
And so we we could get treated 

564
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,840
to another one tomorrow at the 
Milrose Games. 

565
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,360
All right, we got our. 
Friend. 

566
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Pushing the cart. 
The cart is. 

567
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,040
A paid. 
Actor All right, this brings us 

568
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,320
over to maybe we we might end up
spending the next 45 minutes 

569
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,880
discussing this race. 
It's the men's two mile and 

570
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,320
although the Wanamaker Mile is 
historically the marquee event 

571
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,960
of the Milrose Games, this field
is just incredibly stacked. 

572
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520
You've got the world record 
holder at 2 miles and Josh Kerr 

573
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,120
making his return to the Mill 
Rose Games after last year 

574
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,400
having to withdraw 24 within the
24 hours of the meat due to some

575
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,280
food poisoning. 
But last year we were treated to

576
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,160
an epic all time race between 
Grant Fisher and Cole Hawker in 

577
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,240
the 3K where they both got under
the previous world record. 

578
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,040
Grant then also went on to break
the 5K world record indoors. 

579
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,040
Those two guys treated us to an 
amazing race last year and now 

580
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,720
they're running it back, plus 
Josh Kerr. 

581
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,200
And in addition to that, you add
people who came away with medals

582
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,920
at last summer's World 
Championships and Jake Whiteman,

583
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,480
George Beamish. 
So there are four global 

584
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,640
championship medalists in this. 
Medalists in this one, I 

585
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,240
believe. 
There's a quite possibly like 

586
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,680
the most stacked race in indoor 
history. 

587
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,240
It seems like it's ridiculous. 
Look at this. 

588
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,880
Look at this. 
I think all just. 

589
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,520
Start listening to my band. 
All the 11, the 11 guys in this 

590
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,600
race who have competed in the 
NCAA have all won NCA titles as 

591
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,480
well. 
That's why they didn't let Jacob

592
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,560
in. 
He was trying to get in. 

593
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,400
Yeah. 
The agent just couldn't get him 

594
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,480
in this field. 
He didn't have the incident Blay

595
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,480
credentials. 
His agent's like, look, this is 

596
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,480
a first. 
Can't get 10. 

597
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,400
But there's so many different 
ways that this race could play 

598
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,960
out. 
Obviously. 

599
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:16,480
I think the thought of how how 
many men are gonna break 8 

600
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,760
minutes. 
The world record is 802. 

601
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,960
By Josh Kerr from 88 from 2 
years ago. 

602
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,000
I, I Chris feels like it was a 
danger. 

603
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,080
I'm like, your heart hasn't LED 
you wrong so far, keep it going.

604
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,200
I don't have my laptop in front 
of me and that's. 

605
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,480
What's so I, I saw that, you 
know, you were interviewing 

606
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,760
Grant Fisher and he said I think
he was pretty. 

607
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,400
He his over under for the 8 
minute barrier was pretty. 

608
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,320
He was, he said what one and a 
half, 1 1/2. 

609
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,240
I'm like, I think there's going 
to be I think it's going to be a

610
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240
world record race. 
I mean this to to to beat this 

611
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,480
field, it's going to take a 
world record effort. 

612
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,920
I think you'll see, I think 
you'll see three. 

613
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,560
I think 3 is an over under of of
of guys under 8 minutes. 

614
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,640
And I like just looking at this,
this, this, this line up, 

615
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,880
there's multiple guys who could 
do it. 

616
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,920
And it's just going to come down
to who's got the, the, the right

617
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,760
tactics tomorrow and who, who, 
whose day it is. 

618
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,720
I think it's notable that Mac 
chose not to put Josh Kerr on 

619
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,480
the graphic. 
I I think we should hear from 

620
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,280
his his camp about that 
editorial decision and 

621
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080
implication. 
Maybe it was planned. 

622
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,480
Maybe we. 
Yeah, maybe we. 

623
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,160
Oh, Americans, I get it. 
Patriot over. 

624
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,640
I thought maybe it was fuel for 
Josh's fire. 

625
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,360
Yeah. 
Yeah, Josh is kind of an 

626
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:39,920
honorary American. 
Don't they say that? 

627
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,760
All right, so how many people in
this race are capable of 

628
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,400
winning? 
And you don't have to say who. 

629
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,600
How many guys? 
I mean, I mean, there's you 

630
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,080
would. 
Say who? 

631
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,400
But yeah, how many people? 
Have a shot. 

632
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,480
I say 6. 
I say 4. 

633
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:02,960
Yeah, I I think who between 4 
like 6 seems like a lot, but 

634
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,360
then I'm reading this and I'm 
like, maybe that's not that 

635
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,200
crazy. 
Like yes, you have like I would 

636
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160
say there's three of the the 
strong guys that you when you 

637
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,640
talk about this race. 
So it's Grant Fisher, Cole 

638
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,800
Hawker and Josh Kerr, and those 
are like the three top guys but 

639
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,680
at. 
A minimum it's 3. 

640
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Yes, but then you see but but 
George Beamis is a world 

641
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,040
champion. 
Ethan Strand ran 7:30 last year 

642
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,880
is unbelievable. 
Like it's not there's a world 

643
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,040
where he wins. 
Is that the? 

644
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,320
5. 
I win, OK, I'll go 5. 

645
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,400
If I'm including Ethan, I'm 
going to go Grant, Cole, Josh 

646
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,200
and Jordy. 
And I will say, if this isn't a 

647
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680
world record, Jordy's winning 
the race that. 

648
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,760
Flat out, that's that's how slow
does it have to be. 

649
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,360
And but the the down the 
downside is I don't think it's. 

650
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,480
Going to be slow, going to be 
slow. 

651
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,000
Yeah, there's, there's no, 
there's no race. 

652
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,680
Then George, like you can win. 
It yeah, there's no world where 

653
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,360
Grant Fisher's like where it's 
bunching up and Grant Fisher's 

654
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,640
like, I like my odds like, like 
he's like, he's already publicly

655
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,400
talked about. 
I, I want this to be a hard 

656
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,480
race. 
I I like my win. 

657
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,800
He looked great last week in New
Balance, right? 

658
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,320
He ran, he ran what 449 in that 
2K and just he did all the work 

659
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,440
and, and Hobbs Kessler, he ended
up, he did not win and 

660
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,520
Hobbskesser benefited off Grant 
doing a lot of the work, but he 

661
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,880
still looked really good. 
And that's you. 

662
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,200
You think about how well he 
looked here last year with the 

663
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,240
world record 3K performance in a
race when, when Cole hits the 

664
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,920
front, usually it's game over 
for every for the whole world. 

665
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
And, and he didn't let that 
happen last year. 

666
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,840
He looked fantastic and I mean, 
I just don't see a world where 

667
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,000
this where it lags for for many,
many laps. 

668
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800
You have a rabbit, I believe 
it's Ben Allen. 

669
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,560
So you have a very, very capable
rabbit in there. 

670
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,840
But then you also have like, the
reverse rabbit of George just 

671
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,600
being there, right? 
Like if you're not gonna let him

672
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,800
hang. 
You don't, yeah, you don't want 

673
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,160
him connected at the belt 
because he he does have a kick 

674
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,840
that has has ended up with 
multiple world championship 

675
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,240
medals, gold medals. 
So yeah, you, you don't. 

676
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,640
You don't want him, him hanging 
around and it's crazy. 

677
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,840
We're talking about that kick 
when you've got Cole Hawker. 

678
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,560
I'm gonna say if who are you 
taking? 

679
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,000
If it's like comes down to that 
comes down to the kick. 

680
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,520
Cole Hawker, Jordy being like. 
I might take. 

681
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,080
Jordy I mean, I like I think 
Jordy has like a more impressive

682
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,600
like like fire out of a cannon 
kick, but I think I think in 

683
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,040
this race, I think Cole Hawker 
is probably my favorite. 

684
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,880
I think he, I just, I, I, I 
think there's, there's, of 

685
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,120
course there's, there's ways the
other guys wins. 

686
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,080
But I I I see it being a Cole 
Hawker tomorrow. 

687
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,680
So what if there was a guy in 
this field who is like the US 

688
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,880
1500m champion who we also just 
saw run an amazing 2K like this 

689
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,120
is a couple weeks ago and who 
did he beat? 

690
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,160
Who like renal cherry on so I I 
this is I we were talking about 

691
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,280
this before we started 
recording. 

692
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,840
I am feeling very very good 
about Ethan strand. 

693
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,080
I think Ethan Strand either wins
this race or finish a second. 

694
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360
Like like it it maybe it sounds 
crazy, but. 

695
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,920
Crazy. 
He's a young guy, he has a lot 

696
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,800
to prove. 
He's excited, he's coming up. 

697
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,320
The way he's been racing this 
last year has shown that he's 

698
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,840
he's ready to be at this level. 
It's there's just a lot of hype 

699
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,280
and excitement and been there 
before ISM that he doesn't quite

700
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,080
have for this. 
I know, but it's it. 

701
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,440
I also feel like that was the 
case. 

702
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,400
What was it 2 years ago or three
years ago when it was all right?

703
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,280
We were watching was it Cooper 
and Cole and then it was George 

704
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,719
who stole the show. 
I feel like this is the perfect 

705
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,280
role to cast Ethan Strand in for
this year. 

706
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,639
'S race. 
This is why like, but I'm 

707
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:44,719
thinking about when, when Josh 
Kerr ran his world record here 

708
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,120
and the way he he's also not 
afraid to even on these fast 

709
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,920
paces, he'll take it from 800 
out. 

710
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,719
He'll get out to the front. 
He's a he's hard to get around. 

711
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,120
He runs super strong, super 
powerful, a really aggressive 

712
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,560
stride that when he's in full 
flight, it's very hard to get 

713
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,240
around him. 
I mean, we're just we're this 

714
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,360
field is so deep. 
We haven't even mentioned Jake 

715
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,800
Whiteman. 
We haven't mentioned. 

716
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Kye Robinson. 
Parker, Wolf, Kye. 

717
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,520
Like Kye, Robinson, Hopkins, 
Samuel. 

718
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,920
Like it's just too deep. 
It's it really is. 

719
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,400
It's stressing me the hell out. 
I am fitting out by. 

720
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,560
Sure it's it's so impressive and
it's it's it's going to be fast 

721
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,400
and you you don't want to be one
of these guys that ends up in 

722
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,120
the back of the pack right. 
It's because it's there's so 

723
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,720
many great athletes to try and 
work around. 

724
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:39,560
Even if you feel great right 
with with AK to go, it's going 

725
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,880
to be a hard to to get around 
people. 

726
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,480
It's just everyone's too 
talented. 

727
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,480
There's just so many too many 
data points, I think, to try and

728
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,520
extract opinions for this race 
Where you got all right? 

729
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,400
I know Grant Fisher is in, you 
know, number two all time 2K 

730
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,720
shape and I guess I know that 
half and Samuels in 59 a half 

731
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,680
marathon shape. 
But it's like now they're all 

732
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,560
meeting in a two mile. 
Like what is it like? 

733
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,000
How does it all work out? 
Some people are opening up their

734
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,440
seasons here and we don't know a
whole lot about them aside from 

735
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,720
the fact that they had great 
2025 seasons. 

736
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,040
So like literally with this one,
the biggest thing for fans is 

737
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,440
pick your horse, right and but. 
How do you think tomorrow, Like 

738
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,240
I'm sure a lot of these guys are
thinking, OK, like what kind of 

739
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:25,360
what we said Grant Fisher is 
going to be on that rabbit. 

740
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,880
I need a stick on Grant. 
You think all these guys are 

741
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,280
think have are going in being 
like, you know what my strategy 

742
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,560
is? 
I want to be close to the rabbit

743
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200
and I bet Grant Fisher is going 
to be right on that rabbit. 

744
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,600
Like, how do you kind of play it
out? 

745
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,040
Mac makes a good point. 
There is sort of a pecking order

746
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,880
here. 
Oh, there isn't a pecking order.

747
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,200
Oh, I think there is a pecking 
order. 

748
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,000
I think, yeah, I do. 
I definitely do. 

749
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,480
I think that there are people 
that have global medals and 

750
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480
people that don't, and the 
people that don't want to be the

751
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,120
people who do. 
And they're not going to be the 

752
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
ones to stick their necks out 
and do it for them. 

753
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,520
They're going to sit. 
They're going to sit in line and

754
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,520
they're going to try to take 
some scalps. 

755
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,960
I think that's what we'll see. 
I think Ethan's the exception to

756
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,240
that. 
I think Ethan will be the one to

757
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,000
try and disrupt the the 
medalists. 

758
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,440
And he certainly could, yeah. 
This is the opportunity, and I 

759
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,960
know it's the 1500, last year 
obviously was a bit of a coming 

760
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,600
out, but if Ethan came in and 
won this, then he will be 

761
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,920
favorited from now. 
Like that was a surprise when he

762
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,160
won USA's. 
And this is now an opportunity 

763
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,760
where it's like there will never
be another surprise again if he 

764
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,560
shows up. 
Yeah. 100% field like this with 

765
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,600
if he can win this, it'll be the
big the biggest win. 

766
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,440
Also, you're misremembering and 
if you're giving me crap about 

767
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,960
these times, he Ethan didn't win
USA's it was Jonah Koch. 

768
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,720
Jonah. 
Koch, but he. 

769
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,960
Didn't felt like Jonah, felt 
like it. 

770
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,400
Yeah. 
I, I was again. 

771
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,920
We're going with our hearts 
here. 

772
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,200
I wasn't allowed at that 
meeting. 

773
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,480
They're. 
Reading up this Great, Yeah. 

774
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:55,200
I wasn't allowed. 
I just heard about it radio you.

775
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:04,720
Still had your ankle monitor? 
Who is the who's the dark horse 

776
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,120
pick here? 
So when he when he was asked to 

777
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,000
grant, he said Haptam. 
I don't like Optim has AI think 

778
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,000
that's a very dark horse pick. 
I think that I, I used to like, 

779
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:19,440
there's nothing I, I see this 
field and I don't see Optim's 

780
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,280
incredibly talented, right? 
But I think more of a long 

781
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,720
distance. 
I'm not thinking right away. 

782
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,040
I got Hopkins going to sneak in 
there and take it. 

783
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,400
I'd be very surprised if he 
does. 

784
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,560
I'm thinking of the out of 
context quote of you going. 

785
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:37,920
I don't like having. 
I'm like, he's a very dark 

786
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,480
horse, like racist. 
We're not lying. 

787
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,800
I mean, jeez, I I think Ethan 
Strand is kind of a dark like, I

788
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:53,040
think he's a dark horse. 
Like Chris doesn't consider him 

789
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,560
a dark horse. 
He's your heavy favorite. 

790
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Yeah, not the. 
Heavy favorite. 

791
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,600
I think he should be more. 
Looked at park like we haven't 

792
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,200
Parker Wolf. 
Yeah, Ky Robinson was 4th at 

793
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,280
World Indoors last or third at 
World Indoors last. 

794
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,840
Year Ky Robinson would be great.
Would be a great dark horse. 

795
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,520
But it's hard to call any of 
these guys a. 

796
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,440
Dark. 
Yeah, like how am I going to 

797
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,600
call Jake Whiteman a dark horse?
Yeah, these are certified. 

798
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,760
Sounds like I. 
Don't know what's going going. 

799
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,960
On I mean, I've put Jake in that
camp. 

800
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,720
Yeah, I think, I think it's. 
Got to be slower. 

801
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,040
I mean we just saw a 2 Ki think.
Grant Beat. 

802
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,280
Him in a 2K like. 
Oh yeah, that and that's it 

803
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,600
would it would doesn't help. 
It would probably you'd want it 

804
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:36,080
to be slow, but it's again, it's
tough to when you're caught like

805
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,720
a multiple like a world champion
in the 1500 just got a world 

806
00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,560
medal last year outdoors like 
it's call him a dark horses, but

807
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,120
in just in this field, you know,
you never really know. 

808
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,360
I mean, we haven't mentioned 
grand blacks, grand Blancs, 

809
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Parker Wolf. 
It's just it's unbelievably deep

810
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,880
and. 
Is this the premier race of the 

811
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,040
night? 
Yes, yeah, by far. 

812
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,400
Yeah. 
This this is it. 

813
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,080
Yeah, if there was one year to 
make it the Wanamaker Two Mile, 

814
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,440
this would have been it would. 
Have been controversial. 

815
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,960
Yeah, for Hampton, I guess 1 
little stat for people to watch 

816
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,160
and root for would be does he 
break the collegiate record of 

817
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:16,280
the not so often run 2 mile at 
the NCA level, which is 8/18. 

818
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,320
He better Jesus by hope, Yeah. 
If he doesn't, then that means 

819
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,560
he's. 
Season's done then. 

820
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:28,760
Marco Lagnan's like seeing Mark.
818 by Henry Rono in 1978, 

821
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Henry. 
Rono still got these records. 

822
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,320
That's the I think that. 
Might be the last one that is 

823
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,640
unbelievable. 
I hope, actually, I hope he 

824
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,360
doesn't break it. 
Then leave it for Ronald. 

825
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,640
He's had an unbelievable. 
I I think. 

826
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,920
Leave his name on the board. 
He. 

827
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,200
He ran that 818 I believe in in 
in 78. 

828
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,840
The year before may have been 
when he ran 820 something. 

829
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Chris was 7. 
And then he also, but then he 

830
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,520
came back. 
He's like, I remember that day. 

831
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Very fondly, I was in. 
He he came back an hour later. 

832
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,120
An hour later after after 
winning the NCA two mile title, 

833
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,000
he ran four O 2 for the mile, 
which is just like an insane 

834
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,120
double. 
But that was that was the legend

835
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,960
of Henry Rono way back in the 
day. 

836
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,520
But yeah, I mean, this might be,
I think the last record that 

837
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,520
he's got in the books and 
captain will be. 

838
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,280
Yeah, I consider that. 
Oh no, he's got the steeple 

839
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,400
record outdoors. 
He's still got the steeple 

840
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,080
outdoors. 
Yeah, so. 

841
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,320
OK, we get that lives for 
another day, but I, I, I 

842
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,080
consider that record as good as 
gone. 

843
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,040
All right, let's move on over to
the men's. 

844
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,640
Oh yeah. 
Oh, our picks. 

845
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,360
We have to give picks like. 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Anderson 

846
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160
holding us accountable. 
I like it. 

847
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,760
Yeah, Anderson, lead us off. 
Who's your pick? 

848
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
I'm I'm going, I'm going with 
Cole. 

849
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,280
I think, I think Cole, he's 
going to have that kick. 

850
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,680
He's going to want redemption 
from last year after that, like 

851
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,360
losing to Grant, I think. 
And he's going to want to 

852
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,880
continue to assert himself as 
like the distance runner for in 

853
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,040
the United States right now. 
And I think this is a race to do

854
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,160
it. 
So I'm picking Cole. 

855
00:41:57,240 --> 00:42:01,560
Kyle. 
Man, I don't feel super 

856
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,520
confident about anything. 
Is anyone that's feeling 

857
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,680
confident? 
I kind of just like storyline 

858
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,240
wise, I see Ethan Strand pulling
it out. 

859
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,920
You're stealing Chris's pick 
right before Chris is going. 

860
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,720
I like it. 
This is my last show I'm. 

861
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,760
Like fuck. 
Well, I know. 

862
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,160
You're going to do here. 
You are on thin ice. 

863
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,760
Don't grab that. 
Sorry, sorry. 

864
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,400
All right. 
I'll take half from Samuel. 

865
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,120
There you go. 
You'll do. 

866
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,040
You'll do great. 
All right, guess I got to change

867
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,920
my pic, no? 
No, I. 

868
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,040
Didn't really say. 
That I. 

869
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,120
Anything insightful about it? 
I do think it it's Ethan 

870
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,280
Strand's going to steal the show
in the in the two mile. 

871
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,960
I think it's there's always that
one shocker race at Millrose. 

872
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,920
This will be it. 
We didn't talk enough about I 

873
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,960
think Josh Kerr in this and like
he's very confident. 

874
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,480
He's the only one who sat out 
last weekend and doesn't have 

875
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,960
any mark on the board. 
So my thinking could be Josh, 

876
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:11,760
Ethan or Ethan Josh but I'll 
stick to picking Ethan Strand 

877
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,160
for. 
Yeah, don't go Josh now and then

878
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,560
all of a sudden Ethan wins and 
you're like, well, Kyle got in 

879
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,880
my head, but that's. 
It like maybe I, I want to 

880
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,400
change my my call to Josh Kerr, 
but I'm going to actually choose

881
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,640
Jordy Beamish. 
I think that there's a chance 

882
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:30,200
where there's too many stars in 
one in one race. 

883
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,240
I think it could be like a bit 
kamikaze at times when 

884
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:38,040
everyone's trying to shake 
everyone and one mistake 1 crack

885
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,440
it's Jordy Beamish. 
Or this could be the first time 

886
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,280
that he's just like, you know 
what? 

887
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,200
I'm going to prove to you guys 
that. 

888
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,880
Don't do it to be slow. 
Don't do it, Jordy. 

889
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,800
Yeah, do your thing, boy. 
Yeah, He's like. 

890
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:50,760
Maybe I'll pull from the front. 
All right, Eric, I think I'm 

891
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,320
going to go. 
I'm going to stick with what I 

892
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,680
said earlier. 
I'm going to go with Cole 

893
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,520
Hawker. 
OK. 

894
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,680
I I'm not, I don't want to 
change my pick either for the 

895
00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:04,240
same. 
But I think that we're probably 

896
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:07,800
reading into Kerr's injury at 
worlds too much, yeah. 

897
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,120
He's he wouldn't show up if he 
wasn't ready. 

898
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,920
He never. 
Yeah, race is like less than 

899
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:19,560
subpar. 
And yeah, was he a late entry 

900
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,760
who was in the field first? 
Going back a little, so it was 

901
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,480
announced Grant and Cole, and 
then a couple weeks later Josh 

902
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480
got announced. 
Do we think that's like, oh, I 

903
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:31,640
feel good? 
Now, I like that. 

904
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,680
I like that. 
I like, I think it, yeah, I 

905
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,440
think it bodes well for Josh 
where it's like I saw what they 

906
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,960
were ran last year. 
I want to be a part. 

907
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,520
I really want to be a part of 
that this. 

908
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,320
Year. 
I think the idea was always to 

909
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,640
get all three, but you know, I 
think in the timing, in the 

910
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,560
marketing around the meet, I 
think they were like, OK, let's 

911
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,840
confidently announce the 
rematch. 

912
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,480
Grant and Cole were game for it 
from the get go. 

913
00:44:54,760 --> 00:45:00,000
And once Josh sees something I 
think in training that tells him

914
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,800
I green light, I'm going to 
defend my world record and my 

915
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,680
reputation at the Mill Rose 
Games. 

916
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480
He's like I'm in. 
What what time do you think it's

917
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,800
going to take for? 
To win To win 754 in play. 

918
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,240
That's Yakov's outdoor world 
record. 

919
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,120
I mean, I would, I don't know. 
I would have said 722 last year 

920
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,640
in play for the 3K time. 
It's, it's, it's not out of 

921
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,320
play. 
I think they're going to it's 

922
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,760
going to take a huge effort to 
to win this 754 is not out of 

923
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,240
out of the cards. 
I was going to. 

924
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,160
I was leaning towards more of 
like a 756, but I think that's 

925
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,800
again, don't probably don't bet 
on it, but that is my my FanDuel

926
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,640
over under is 756. 
That's the line. 

927
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,000
So are you taking Eric's over 
under? 

928
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,960
I'll take I'll take the over I. 
Was going to say, remembering 

929
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:01,480
who you picked, yeah. 
Of. 

930
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,920
Course too the whole argument. 
Was George. 

931
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,680
Wins, Yeah. 
She's like, I'm hoping it's an 8

932
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,200
O five race. 
Yeah, I will. 

933
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:15,600
I'm, I think I could see 857, 
but it'll feel emotionally like 

934
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,280
a yeah, like a 859, the seven. 
70 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

935
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:24,320
I'm like, OK, whoa. 
I, I, I think we're gonna not 

936
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,600
get the world record, but we're 
gonna with a lap to go be like, 

937
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,400
Oh my God, are we gonna get the 
world record? 

938
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,720
So 755 high, I'll take the 
under, OK. 

939
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Whoa, whoa. 
I I think 750-6757, that's where

940
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,800
I'm going with Cool, Yeah. 
This one, I mean, we could have 

941
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,160
spent a whole hour analyzing 
every single guy in this field 

942
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,480
and maybe Mac is looking at me 
like we just did. 

943
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,320
So this is. 
Why like this meat is so great 

944
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,800
is this race, like this race is 
going to happen and the race 

945
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,320
after it is going to all be 
watching right here in the warm 

946
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,600
up and that put on their spikes.
The place is going to be going 

947
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,760
absolutely insane. 
They're gonna have to figure out

948
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,560
how to like, not let a huge 
adrenaline dump happen as 

949
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,000
they're putting on their spikes.
Everyone's wearing tuxedos. 

950
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,840
It's hot as hell. 
Everyone's steering right on top

951
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,360
of you. 
Oh, it's it's the best. 

952
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,360
All right then after that, we've
got the men's 600 in this one. 

953
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:21,880
I think the all eyes will be on 
Cooper Lykken House, especially 

954
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,400
after running 145 in the 800 
last weekend. 

955
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,520
He'll get a strong a a strong 
challenge from the likes of 

956
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,080
Isaiah Jewett as who's run it 
well at Millrose in the past. 

957
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,800
But for Cooper, I think it's 
just continuing to learn and 

958
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,920
thrive in an environment like 
this, especially if he's 

959
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,960
thinking about potentially going
for the world Indoor 

960
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,400
Championships. 
I don't know if he's going to be

961
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,920
able to get out of school for 
that, but yeah, it's just like, 

962
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,080
hey, if one of the stars wants 
to be at this meet and doesn't 

963
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:58,760
like doesn't necessarily want to
be in the 800 lower pressure, 

964
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,440
but still gets to enjoy the 
environment. 

965
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,960
I think that's why a race like 
this is on the program. 

966
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,320
It's a great move. 
It's a great move. 

967
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,960
It it exposes you without 
without the pressure as as Eric 

968
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,720
said, if he can handle the the 
adrenaline dump of the men's two

969
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:15,280
mile before beforehand, that is 
a a really good lesson to learn 

970
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440
how to how to meteor meter your 
emotions. 

971
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,720
A. 100% So I think like with 
with with him, what I guess we 

972
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:25,200
got to figure out what the 600 
high school record is, but he's 

973
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,560
just constantly rewriting these 
things each time out. 

974
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,480
So watch Cooper Luckenhaus in 
the 600. 

975
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,400
I think something I'm really 
interested to see is just how 

976
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,880
Isaiah do it does because, you 
know, he didn't make the team 

977
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,880
last year, but now he's training
with Marco a rope in Mississippi

978
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,800
and seeing like how he looks now
in a new setup. 

979
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,960
And he was somebody, when you 
would watch him race when he was

980
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,680
at his peak, he was not afraid 
to get out Hard wow. 

981
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,320
Yeah, he did the Michaela Rose. 
He was he had a very Michaela 

982
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Rose ask style of racing where 
he's not afraid to push it from 

983
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,400
the front, take it out hot, 
which would be exactly what you 

984
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,400
would want in in this separate 
race tomorrow all. 

985
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Right, that brings us to the 
Sidious Mag women's 1K where 

986
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,160
it's a very exciting race 1K. 
You get a good mix of 800 meter 

987
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,360
talent, some milers as well. 
The field is fantastic for this 

988
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,880
one and I feel like we're on 
record watch for this one. 

989
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,560
The world record is 230 by Maria
Mottola. 

990
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,720
The American record is 234 by 
Jen Toomey. 

991
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,480
And it's interesting because 
Addie Wiley, who has the outdoor

992
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,040
1K record, it's a faster time 
than the one indoors. 

993
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,360
So I mean, there's enough there 
to think, OK, they're if they 

994
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,120
want to get after a record 
tomorrow, they've got the field 

995
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,000
assembled for it. 
So it's Addie Wiley, Natoya 

996
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,600
Ghoul, Sage, her De Clecker, 
Maggie Congdon, Siga da Guma, 

997
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Gabia Gabbidite, Megan Hunter, 
Gemma Riki, and they'll be paced

998
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,720
by Victoria Bossong, who just 
ran a really good 500 at BU 

999
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:02,680
yesterday. 
So they're in good hands. 

1000
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,960
City Smack Women's 1K should be 
a lot of fun. 

1001
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,160
What are you looking out for? 
Well, First off, I just want to 

1002
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,280
say it's nice to see you finally
doing something to give back to 

1003
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:14,040
the sport always. 
Yeah, it's good, good with you 

1004
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,280
to do that. 
Mac and I will be holding the 

1005
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,240
finish line tape. 
It's wow, dude, if you guys like

1006
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,840
trip someone, we're done. 
We can never sponsor race. 

1007
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,240
That would be bad for the brand.
Yeah. 

1008
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,000
What did the What's the winner 
get? 

1009
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,520
Citi's mag pro. 
What's the world like? 

1010
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Get an IL to the. 
Subscription to Citius Mag. 

1011
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,760
Yeah. 
But for all the content we have 

1012
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,720
behind the paywall, you know, I 
mean, it just gets you get to be

1013
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:40,400
one of our favorites forever, 
Yeah. 

1014
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:46,000
OK, I think this is a world 
record race, like the 100%. 

1015
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,000
You have the field ready to go. 
You've just seen how fast they 

1016
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,800
run outdoors all the time in the
1K and so I think it sets up 

1017
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,800
really well for Historic Day for
Sidious Mag and also Maggie 

1018
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,000
Congdon. 
Yeah, Maggie Congdon, I think is

1019
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,520
like the is maybe one of the 
most underrated runners in the 

1020
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:04,840
United. 
Not in our group chat. 

1021
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,680
No, our group chat is obsessed, 
I was saying. 

1022
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,840
The. 
Sidious Mag group chat is just 

1023
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,280
where like, she's the next big 
thing. 

1024
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,320
I'm not in the group chat. 
You know you're. 

1025
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,480
Not HR. 
Yeah, you don't want to be in 

1026
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,520
the group chat, is what Max says
Eric. 

1027
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,720
I like the group chat, yeah. 
Group chat was hell. 

1028
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:27,560
Oh. 
God. 

1029
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,240
You're not in the group chat. 
It was. 

1030
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,920
Really humbling. 
Let's blow right by this. 

1031
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,840
Yeah? 
You don't take it, Don't take it

1032
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,120
personally. 
Eric's like you do not want to 

1033
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,680
be in the group chat. 
He's like, we have our own 

1034
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:40,960
group. 
Chat we. 

1035
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,760
Do have an off the real? 
Yeah, chat Eric will be. 

1036
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,240
Cooler over here or something, I
don't know. 

1037
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,840
I cry myself to sleep. 
Yeah, the. 

1038
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,120
Obsidious Nag Women's 1K winner 
gets added to the group. 

1039
00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:57,160
Chat It's a one year anniversary
of Eric leaving the group chat 

1040
00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,680
at 3:00 AM after the mill. 
This time last year, yeah. 

1041
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,280
And I was like, I was finally, 
I'm like, you know what I'm 

1042
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,440
actually done with. 
I've never been more over this. 

1043
00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:12,080
Kylie, want to show the back 
story to this one? 

1044
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:17,120
No, I don't want to. 
Back story back is waving us 

1045
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:17,960
off. 
We don't want it. 

1046
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,120
Hey anyway, Maggie comes. 
Back to the 600. 

1047
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:23,560
I just remember waking up and I 
was. 

1048
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,520
Like, oh, Bill. 
All right, so Maggie conned it. 

1049
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,480
Yeah. 
I just have been so impressed 

1050
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,920
with the way she maneuvers in 
races and just finds her 

1051
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,360
position. 
And she's obviously proven her 

1052
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,880
ability of being a great mix of 
a true 815 hundred runner. 

1053
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,120
So the thousand seems perfect 
and very fitting. 

1054
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:46,400
Now, you know, obviously well 
into the the professional setup 

1055
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,560
and everything. 
This one should have been 

1056
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,240
circled on the calendar. 
And I think there's a reason 

1057
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:54,080
that we're not seeing her in the
Mile is probably because we are 

1058
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,120
on World Record Watch. 
How do you run a good one Ki? 

1059
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,200
Get out hard, pick it up in the 
middle, finish strong. 

1060
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,560
I don't know, the 1K is a 
challenging distance because 

1061
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:08,240
it's not slow like it feel. 
It feels more like an 800 than a

1062
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:09,040
mile. 
Yeah. 

1063
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,960
And I I think you can't be 
conservative if you want to be 

1064
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,360
there in the end in a in AK. 
If you're an 800 meters 

1065
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,160
specialist, I guess like what is
it that you got to tap into like

1066
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,720
in the for that extra 1 lap? 
Like it's it? 

1067
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,480
You're already dead, usually by 
the end of 800. 

1068
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,320
I mean, I never ran was single 
good 800 and so I I really can't

1069
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,680
speak for it. 
I would imagine if they want to 

1070
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,840
get the, the world record, you 
said it's 2:30. 

1071
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,760
I mean, they're going to need to
be, they're going to need to 

1072
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,600
really run. 
They're going to need to treat 

1073
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,160
it like an 800. 
They're going to need to run an 

1074
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,200
impressive 800 and hang on if 
they want to, if the world 

1075
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,000
record is what they're chasing 
for, it's going to be like Sage 

1076
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,080
Herder Clecker is in good shape.
She, she is coming off of a 

1077
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,520
cross country season. 
But I, I, I wonder who is 

1078
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,360
obviously, obviously, as we 
know, everyone in the city is 

1079
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,200
obsessed with Maggie Congdon. 
So, so it seems like everyone's 

1080
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,080
pulling for her, but is she 
going to be like the one 

1081
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:12,200
dictating the, the, the race? 
Addie Wiley has run very fast. 

1082
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,520
There's an Olympic silver 
medalist in the 800 in this one.

1083
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,840
Too true. 
See. 

1084
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,480
Guma, but we didn't see a lot of
Seagate last year. 

1085
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:20,360
I want to say did we see her 
indoors? 

1086
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,200
But it just wasn't great. 
I think so, yeah. 

1087
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Right, that it took her a little
while to get going. 

1088
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,880
Outdoor really. 
So a bit of an unknown coming in

1089
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,640
here, but if you look at just 
the the chops on the world 

1090
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,160
stage, CJ, Gemma, Ricky, we're 
not talking enough about Gemma. 

1091
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,480
Yeah, I think those two, if 
it's, if it's not an American 

1092
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,960
winning this race, it's one of 
those two. 

1093
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,560
Yeah. 
Then on top of that, I guess 

1094
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,160
like NATO ghoul like always 
really reliable I. 

1095
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,320
I figure she'll be someone to 
probably take it out and maybe 

1096
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,840
take take the pace for everyone 
else. 

1097
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,720
I can't. 
I mean all due respect, I'm not 

1098
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,440
sure I can see her winning, but 
I think she'll set the pace for 

1099
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,080
the rest of the field most 
likely. 

1100
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,360
Yeah, I like that. 
Who we got winning the City of 

1101
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,560
Smack Women's one. 
OK, we can't all pick Maggie 

1102
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,240
Kong then. 
I'll pick Sage her to Clucker. 

1103
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,000
OK. 
Are you? 

1104
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:07,360
Picking Maggie, I think I'm 
like, I'll be the first to say 

1105
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,640
Maggie, sure, yeah, it's I'll 
pick Maggie that's AI like that.

1106
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,360
But yeah, thanks for letting me 
go 2nd and. 

1107
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,400
You're going Sage. 
I'm going sage, I'm going sage. 

1108
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,040
I think when you're looking at 
the blend of an 815 hundred 

1109
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,640
runner, that's perfectly sage, 
perfectly safe. 

1110
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,600
She has the strength, she has 
the speed, she has all the tools

1111
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,280
you need. 
I'm gonna go, Maggie. 

1112
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,680
Now is the gossip that Addie was
asking for the fastest pace of 

1113
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,240
the bunch. 
Wait, yeah, who is asking? 

1114
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,200
Do we know what they're asking 
for? 

1115
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,400
The pace? 
They're saying Addie asked for 

1116
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,800
the pace. 
Yeah, I think so. 

1117
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,480
But they all want that. 
Like, yeah, I think it's no one 

1118
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,840
in this race doesn't want to see
1/29 at 6:00. 100 yeah, I mean, 

1119
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,760
let's say Addie is the one who 
asked for the pace and she is 

1120
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:58,640
the one who the rabbit drops off
at what 6 It's fast enough where

1121
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,200
it's it's she'd be a good it'd 
be easy to sit on right? 

1122
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,640
Like like if she really if she 
if you ask for the pace, in my 

1123
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,560
opinion, you got to be the one 
to get on it. 

1124
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:13,120
I know I people maybe don't 
agree or don't always race like 

1125
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,960
that, but I think that's that's 
the polite thing to do. 

1126
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:20,960
You ask for the pace, get on it.
And if if you go, let's say they

1127
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:27,240
go out in 158 for for 800, you 
could see them coming back. 

1128
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,440
So Addie's run very fast. 
This is kind of hit or miss 

1129
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,920
often. 
Like it's not like she's, she 

1130
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,160
does run a lot of fast times 
throughout the year, but it's 

1131
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,000
not you'll see her see her fade 
a lot. 

1132
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,240
So. 
Navigating traffic is what she 

1133
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:45,120
has trouble with. 
So in your scenario, if she is 

1134
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,760
the one who's just right behind 
the pacer once they once they 

1135
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,160
drop off, that's that's good for
her because what we've seen in 

1136
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,560
the past is like her race can 
fall apart pretty easily. 

1137
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:53,520
Yeah. 
True. 

1138
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,560
So yeah, that's the only 
hesitancy I have on picking 

1139
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,720
someone like Addy. 
I would probably slot in Maggie 

1140
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:05,320
Sage, then I would even go, I 
mean before I pick Addie Weiler.

1141
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:09,960
Yeah, Jemma Riki I like is for 
somebody who probably deserves 

1142
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:15,080
more to be talked about more and
has run very fast very often and

1143
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,960
this could be a great race for 
her. 

1144
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,400
All right. 
Do you guys went Maggie? 

1145
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,520
Who's your? 
Bench I, I'm, I'm split between 

1146
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,720
Sage and Gemma. 
I feel like Gemma, I feel like 

1147
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,760
she's really, really good here, 
but I, I do feel like Sage will 

1148
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,160
probably be the one to take it. 
She'll take advantage of things 

1149
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,560
so. 
All right, this brings us to the

1150
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:39,280
Burgess Family Foundation Men's 
800, which features four men who

1151
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:47,680
have run 142 or faster outdoors.
The only scratch that we just 

1152
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,600
learned of moments ago, and it 
still appears on our start list,

1153
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,920
on the start list graphic, but 
is Kean Mcphillips is out. 

1154
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,000
I think he's just dealing with 
something that popped up in. 

1155
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,880
Last scratch. 
Yeah, especially given how well 

1156
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:06,240
he ran last week where he beat 
Bryce Hoppel and Donovan Brazier

1157
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,160
over 600. 
Pretty convincingly, yeah. 

1158
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,800
Yeah, at. 
The new bounce indoor Grand 

1159
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,680
Prix. 
So unfortunately for him, I 

1160
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:18,400
guess he's going to table it and
probably, I mean, there's enough

1161
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,880
of a indoor season left ahead in
on the European side of things 

1162
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,680
that we won't be the last time 
that we see him. 

1163
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:28,440
But it does set things up for us
to still get Hoppel versus 

1164
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,200
Brazier on a stage like this. 
Two guys who have won at the 

1165
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,920
Milrose Games in the past don't 
sleep on the likes of like 

1166
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,360
Mohamed Attatoui, who I think he
just ran 334 or 330. 

1167
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:43,000
Five and he's going for the 1K 
world record next week, I 

1168
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,480
believe. 
So he, he obviously knows he's 

1169
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:48,560
fit if he's, you know, calling 
his shot now. 

1170
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:51,960
And it kind of among all of 
this, it's sort of like you also

1171
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,640
can't discount the likes of 
Colin Solomon, who's got just 

1172
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:58,680
some of the best range in the 
entire 47 point. 

1173
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,440
Yeah, at altitude. 
So you got to be fair. 

1174
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,520
Was it, was it altitude? 
But still, 47 point for a 

1175
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:06,880
distance runner in the winter 
doesn't. 

1176
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Very fast. 
Great. 

1177
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,200
And then given the fact that 
he's run what, 3K and also cross

1178
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:15,120
country super well, the the kid 
is just like a Jack of all 

1179
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:21,120
trades that this could honestly 
be like a statement win for him 

1180
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,800
if he's able to pull it off 
against Donovan and Bryce. 

1181
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:29,640
So basically, you know, last 
weekend in Boston, it was holy 

1182
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,720
versus the clock, right? 
So that's a race for history. 

1183
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:37,280
This is just a good general race
between some of the best 800 

1184
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,800
meter runners in the world. 
So what are you most excited 

1185
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,000
about in this one, Eric? 
I mean, I'm excited to see how 

1186
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,320
how Donovan and Bryce bounced 
back a bit. 

1187
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,800
They looked a bit rusty yet last
week at new bounce for those 

1188
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,120
guys. 
Yeah, just, you know, it looked 

1189
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:53,640
like a the first race of the 
year. 

1190
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,720
So I'm excited to see them. 
Donovan's had a lot of success 

1191
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,840
on this track. 
He set the American record here 

1192
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,880
a few years back when he when he
was healthy and firing and all 

1193
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,520
cylinders. 
So I think he's going to, I 

1194
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,840
think, I think Donovan, in my 
opinion, will will win it 

1195
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:12,840
tomorrow. 
I think he's somebody who when 

1196
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,160
he's when he's healthy and and 
racing well, he's usually very 

1197
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,920
tough to beat. 
But Bryce Hoppel is somebody 

1198
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:23,080
who's always so consistent. 
He consistently is, is usually 

1199
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:28,480
at the top of his game. 
I think it's really between now 

1200
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,040
with, with Mcphillips out. 
I mean, we, I'm looking at the 

1201
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:33,760
start list. 
You see guys like Shane Cohen 

1202
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,720
and Colin Solomon, they usually 
are guys who are in the back of 

1203
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,760
the pack and relying on big 
kicks to have good performances.

1204
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,120
Ben Pattinson. 
But yeah, I, I think, I think 

1205
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,040
it's, it's kind of the 
headlines, the two main guys, 

1206
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,600
Donovan and Bryce. 
I think the only person to upset

1207
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:56,120
the party is A2 EI I especially 
calling the shot of the 1K. 

1208
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,240
He's a very savvy racer. 
He's maybe slightly smaller in 

1209
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:06,120
stature so can navigate fields. 
Feels better than than most 

1210
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,520
people traditionally can in an 
800 field. 

1211
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,240
So yeah, I would say he would be
the one to spoiled party. 

1212
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:13,400
I have an important topic to 
discuss, Mac. 

1213
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,160
We're going to need the camera 
for this motion. 

1214
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:19,600
So when he ran 335, he did the 
same thing that Cam Myers did 

1215
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,960
crossing the finish line, the 
like weird hand out shoulder 

1216
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,000
thing. 
Would you like to know? 

1217
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,080
Would you like to know why? 
Do we like that? 

1218
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:29,360
And well, that's actually, 
that's great you bring this up 

1219
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,720
because I believe Mac has also 
done that to possibly win an NC 

1220
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:33,960
double. 
A. 

1221
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,280
Do we like that move? 
Yes, absolutely. 

1222
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:40,560
We like the move the reason you 
do it yes, the reason you do it 

1223
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,200
is because the camera is is 
going on your shoulder. 

1224
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,320
It's going on your chest and how
what is the quickest way to get 

1225
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,600
your chest further is a little 
bit of rotation pushes the 

1226
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:52,400
shoulder out gets you there 
further. 

1227
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:56,200
It is textbook what you learn if
you were a young track kid 

1228
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,320
growing up with with the. 
Oldest right now. 

1229
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,000
It was always. 
Did you do this? 

1230
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,800
I mean, if I if my arms weren't 
fully lactic I would. 

1231
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,000
Yeah. 
OK, then what then? 

1232
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,440
Why didn't both do? 
Why isn't? 

1233
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,640
Anybody doing that? 
I mean he. 

1234
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,920
Didn't need to. 
He was so far. 

1235
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,880
He was so far. 
Away. 

1236
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,440
I think he could have used a 
little bit of extra, like why 

1237
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,080
would you turn down if it's so 
good? 

1238
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:17,640
It's also an Oregon thing. 
Did Jimmy Rad never taught you 

1239
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:18,960
this? 
No, it's. 

1240
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,120
Like what are you talking? 
About You could have been so 

1241
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,760
great. 
Yeah, I could have no more 

1242
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,000
titles off Ed Cheswick if I knew
the Jamaican lean. 

1243
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,840
Is that what it's called the 
Jamaican lean? 

1244
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,080
I've never heard I've been 
calling it. 

1245
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,920
That with that notoriety. 
But yeah, it is just. 

1246
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,240
I've been doing the shoulder 
chop. 

1247
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,120
It's kind of. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1248
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:41,960
Yeah, I did see it makes her 
some awkward finish line. 

1249
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,120
Photos. 
That's how you're kind of 

1250
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,080
wasting a great opportunity. 
Would you rather have a really 

1251
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,160
good photo? 
Or you want the You want the 

1252
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,520
record. 
Give me the record. 

1253
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,320
You want the photo. 
Hopefully the winner of the 

1254
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,080
Sidious Mag 1K doesn't do that 
in ruin the photo. 

1255
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,080
I hope you do it. 
Do you do it? 

1256
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,080
So that was your big gripe with 
Cam Myers? 

1257
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,080
That was an asking. 
I wouldn't call it a gripe. 

1258
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,040
It was just a commentary on 
something I've been seeing a 

1259
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:08,240
trend in the market. 
So that's why you hate Camp 

1260
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,960
Meyer. 
And and Mohai, yeah, he did it 

1261
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,880
too. 
I would say I'm upset Keene is 

1262
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,680
out, but I'm glad someone 
dropped out. 

1263
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,960
I think it's a little crowded 
and I needed, I needed one. 

1264
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,240
We were talking about this 
before this. 

1265
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,040
The show starts. 
There's a new 800 meter break, 

1266
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:29,760
right? 
Yeah. 

1267
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,960
Now, Chris, why don't you break 
it down for? 

1268
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:33,080
Us. 
It's actually I think Kyle's 

1269
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,240
probably best suited. 
For Well, what is it, Anderson? 

1270
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,280
It's down the. 
Line. 

1271
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:39,920
Oh, actually Preet. 
Preet probably good. 

1272
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,240
Yeah, Anderson, if you give 
Preet. 

1273
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,320
Your mic for a SEC Preet's. 
We've been all over this thing. 

1274
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,600
Yeah. 
Hi, everyone. 

1275
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:48,800
Yeah. 
So. 

1276
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,640
Explain the new brake line rule,
new brake line. 

1277
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,080
So the old brake line rule was 
you would cut in after the first

1278
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,120
bend. 
So obviously your start for the 

1279
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,520
800 meters indoors is just after
the finish line. 

1280
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,280
You cut in just after the first 
bend, which if you remember your

1281
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,560
standard 800 meter race, the 
guys are a bit of argy bargy. 

1282
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,040
They're all kind of, you know, 
you get the falls, it's great 

1283
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,760
fun. 
But now the brake line is where 

1284
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,480
the 400 meter break happens for 
indoors, which is after the 

1285
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:24,200
second, the second bend. 
So then I think there's an 

1286
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,840
advantage first of all to the 
first outer three lanes because 

1287
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,760
as in the 400, everyone wants 
the outer lanes because then 

1288
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,080
they can come down, they've got 
up to full speed and they can 

1289
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,480
come down off the banking and 
get out in pole position. 

1290
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,920
So I think there's a big 
advantage now to lane drawing it

1291
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,080
in the indoor right. 
And also, it just seems like the

1292
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,520
times have gone a little faster 
this season, so. 

1293
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,760
So this is something that's 
brand new this season. 

1294
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,560
It's being implemented, yeah, by
World Athletics this year at all

1295
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:56,200
of their indoor tour meets. 
And then you'll see it at the 

1296
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,560
World Indoor Championships as 
well. 

1297
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,000
So thanks, Preet. 
Yeah. 

1298
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,520
I think we should have Preet 
become like an official like 

1299
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,440
that is. 
Our gene statutory from the NFL 

1300
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,680
where they go to him for like 
reviewing calls. 

1301
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:13,240
He just lives in Secaucus. 
So we just like always go to 

1302
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,240
Preet for the official ruling. 
But do we like that? 

1303
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,600
I don't think anything of it 
honestly. 

1304
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,840
I think I think it's good 
because it the 800 and 

1305
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,080
championships is too crowded. 
I think in like time trial 

1306
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:29,320
situations I don't really see it
making a huge difference, but we

1307
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,880
probably could afford some less 
argy bargy. 

1308
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:35,320
Argy bajy. 
Yeah. 

1309
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:36,520
Where does that come from? 
It's. 

1310
01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Like. 
A. 

1311
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,080
Across the pond, yeah. 
Argy Bajy. 

1312
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Different from the lean. 

1313
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:50,000
Yeah, but still arm heavy. 
Eric, do you like the 800 thing 

1314
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,120
or not really? 
I don't really this is I'm 

1315
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,640
learning about it right now, so 
I guess. 

1316
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,640
I learned I was in the group. 
Chat I get, yeah. 

1317
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,280
We're learning a lot. 
We're processing lots of 

1318
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,280
different things on the on the 
preview show. 

1319
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,760
I mean, it's up to let's, I 
wonder what the athletes think, 

1320
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,320
right? 
This is. 

1321
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,560
Machine Willis likes it well. 
Yeah, you're going to like it 

1322
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:16,080
after an American record. 
So I I, you know, we'll see what

1323
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:20,320
the, what the athletes say if it
does create a bit more space and

1324
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:24,800
they feel like they can navigate
a bit easier and there's not as 

1325
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:29,160
much like much contact, you 
know, maybe they like it. 

1326
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,240
But, you know, it's just, I 
don't really, I don't know 

1327
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,880
enough. 
I don't know enough about it to 

1328
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,080
educate my own research. 
Yeah, I'm not educated enough on

1329
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,200
it. 
That's silly to talk about it. 

1330
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:42,720
Like I said, I sucked in the 8. 
Never could figure it out. 

1331
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,240
You could give me as many breaks
as possible. 

1332
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:53,480
I'm running 151 high. 
Max seems to be very against it.

1333
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,920
He had some harder feelings. 
He's like, this is anti racing, 

1334
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,440
Yeah. 
Now this coming from a guy does 

1335
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,880
the shoulder chop? 
Yeah, yeah, He was keeping the 

1336
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,680
Jamaican lean to himself. 
I don't worry. 

1337
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,360
OK. 
Selfish. 

1338
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,800
All right, so in this one, I 
guess all of our sights are set 

1339
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,400
on Brazier, Hopple and Attitude 
are the big three. 

1340
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:24,160
All right, then we go over to 
the women's want to make her 

1341
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:24,720
mile. 
Oh. 

1342
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,640
Before we do the miles, do we 
want to do the 60 meters real 

1343
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:28,560
quick? 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1344
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,400
That's a little bit early. 
I can run through those real 

1345
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,200
quick. 
Are those not in the main perk? 

1346
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,320
Oh I skipped over it. 
It's. 

1347
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,400
It's after the hurdles. 
I can run through those real 

1348
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,120
quick, though. 
I mean, so women's 60 meters you

1349
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,120
have Dean. 
Asher Smith is probably the 

1350
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,800
headline here. 
She is coming off a, you know, 

1351
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,280
mixed outdoor season. 
But this is her first time 

1352
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:53,400
running an indoor 60m season 
since 2023. 

1353
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,520
And she recently changed 
coaches. 

1354
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:00,280
She was training in in Austin, 
TX with coach Flo. 

1355
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,760
She's now down in with Michael 
Ford at Baylor. 

1356
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,080
So and she's kind of, she just 
won New Balance. 

1357
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,440
She ran seven O 8, one of her 
fastest times of her entire 

1358
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,040
career. 
And she's kind of running on all

1359
01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,600
cylinders. 
But you'll have Dina Asher Smith

1360
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:18,399
versus Jason Sears, who is the 
mill Rose games winner from last

1361
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:21,200
year. 
She's run seven O 2 I think to 

1362
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,840
win last year. 
So she's I, I like that kind of 

1363
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,160
dynamic between those two 
that'll be 1 to kind of look out

1364
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:28,600
for. 
Has Zena indicated if she's 

1365
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,880
going to do a full indoor? 
I think she said that this meet 

1366
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,800
and maybe one other will be OK, 
and I think she's going to 

1367
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:36,760
British indoor champs that will 
indicate OK. 

1368
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,600
Should I go to the world indoor 
champs because she's in her new 

1369
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,560
setup, She's like feeling a 
little more free and feeling 

1370
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,120
like more, I don't know, 
energized about the year. 

1371
01:08:45,319 --> 01:08:47,240
So we'll see. 
This meet, I think will be the 

1372
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,279
indicator for. 
Everyone's showing up to British

1373
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,040
indoor champs this year. 
It seems like there's like 

1374
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,359
Keely, Josh. 
Is like, yeah, Georgia. 

1375
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:54,840
Hunter Bell. 
Like, it's going to be really, 

1376
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,439
really, really good. 
Yeah, the Americans should take 

1377
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:58,560
note. 
And like, no, it's good. 

1378
01:08:58,640 --> 01:08:59,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Very true. 

1379
01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:03,479
And then the men's 60 meters. 
So I'm I'm kind of not kind of 

1380
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:04,680
I'm very interested in this 
race. 

1381
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,760
So you have Akeem Blake, who's a
world indoor bronze medalist 

1382
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,560
from 2024 behind Christian 
Coleman and no allows. 

1383
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,279
He just won New Balance Indoor 
Grand Prix, newly signed with on

1384
01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:20,880
one of the bigger sprinters who 
signed with on he's probably 

1385
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,399
maybe the favorite in here. 
Jordan Anthony, NCAA champion in

1386
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:28,160
the 60 and 100 last year. 
He's this will be a second race 

1387
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,600
as a professional, so he's 
someone to always keep an eye 

1388
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,600
out for. 
Brian Lavelle from Jamaica, he's

1389
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,160
also. 
So interesting that he's 

1390
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:36,359
choosing to do this. 
Meet. 

1391
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:38,479
Choose. 
He I, I don't, I have no idea. 

1392
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,680
I was surprised to kind of see 
him on the entry list here. 

1393
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,760
So he's a world bronze medalist 
in the 200 last year. 

1394
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,920
In my opinion, Brian Lavelle 
might be 1 of the 11 sprinter 

1395
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,439
who has like the most potential 
for like the next couple years 

1396
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,920
in the 100, the 200. 
Like he's someone who really, 

1397
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,240
really can come on strong. 
Now his 60 meters, very 

1398
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,200
questionable. 
I don't know. 

1399
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,320
I mean, he's run 65 outdoors 
this year. 

1400
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:03,360
So what? 
Does that mean? 

1401
01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:05,240
What is an? 
Outdoor especially. 

1402
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,880
All due respect, Jamaican 
outdoor races. 

1403
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,520
Listen, I have no idea. 
Like Coshane Thompson ran like 

1404
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:15,800
6-4 outdoors last year and then 
he comes indoors and runs 65. 

1405
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,720
It's like I I don't know. 
So. 

1406
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,400
We'll see. 
There's a roof on over there. 

1407
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,120
Yeah. 
It's like when you. 

1408
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,920
Look up and they're like what 
the hell, but it's. 

1409
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,040
Cold. 
Aside, yeah. 

1410
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,560
But I do like again, Brian 
Lavelle is like one guy in the 

1411
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:33,120
sprints overall, like comparing 
to Annoa Lyles to Let's Seeley 

1412
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,840
to Kenny be like he is in that 
realm and could have even more 

1413
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:39,040
potential. 
So looking out to see what he 

1414
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,680
actually does. 
Here I think of this as a great 

1415
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,720
move for Brian long term 
development wise is getting that

1416
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,760
burst, burst out of blocks. 
I mean, he comes off turns 

1417
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,560
great, insane. 
He really opened up his stride 

1418
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,120
very well. 
And so you know, this being 2026

1419
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,240
and the indoor season seems like
the perfect time to work on. 

1420
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,040
This aspect of his game exactly.
Yeah, we've. 

1421
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,360
Seen just sort of like how well 
that 200 meter specialists and 

1422
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,080
100 meter specialists can 
translate to the the 60, 

1423
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,400
especially in the last couple of
years. 

1424
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,520
Marcel Jacobs. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1425
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:15,280
Yeah, the US scene is pretty 
wide open and I guess the plan 

1426
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,120
right now is no allowance is 
gonna run USA indoors but not go

1427
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,200
to worlds. 
Opens the door for someone like 

1428
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,160
Jordan Anthony and T Mars 
McCallum. 

1429
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,040
T Mars McCallum in the field, 
Trayvon Brummel, He'll be doing 

1430
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,560
USAS in the 60s, so it is. 
And Christian Coleman is not 

1431
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,920
running indoors so. 
Yeah, Christian Coleman's got a 

1432
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,160
little bit of trouble on his 
hands right now, I guess. 

1433
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,600
Yeah, he got arrested, I guess 
yesterday, 2 days ago now. 

1434
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:43,360
But really unfortunate news with
him and Shakira Richardson. 

1435
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:46,920
But hoping for for the best for 
those guys to get back on track 

1436
01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:49,800
soon. 
And then it's really wide open 

1437
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,040
with no Coleman, no Lyles at 
Worlds. 

1438
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,120
And then in addition to Fred is 
at the Enhanced Games. 

1439
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,760
We're like turning the page on 
like our US hundred. 

1440
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:00,400
It's. 
Like a new. 

1441
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,400
Generation in a sense. 
I mean shut up to Trayvon. 

1442
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:06,480
Almost like a from the previous 
generation of sprinters. 

1443
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,680
And new generation, yeah. 
Was it like Trayvon is 

1444
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,120
celebrating the 10 year 
anniversary of his gold medal at

1445
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:17,680
Portland Indoors? 
In 2016, so this might be his 

1446
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,400
year, I mean. 
Who's gone? 

1447
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,640
Who like there was with the 
javelin, the javelin thrower or 

1448
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,720
someone who won gold this past 
summer in Tokyo from Trinidad 

1449
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,120
and Tobago. 
Oh, Walcott, Yeah. 

1450
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,360
Walcott after he meddled. 
At Oh yeah, the Olympics. 

1451
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:33,800
Yeah, Yeah, yeah. 
That's. 

1452
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,760
True, but this would be more 
impressive if Trayvon can medal 

1453
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,040
in the 100 in 2016 and then in 
2026. 

1454
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,560
Well, the hundred 2015, he got 
bronze, yeah, 2016 indoors, he 

1455
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,280
got gold in the 60s, so that 
would be insane. 

1456
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,720
And it's looking good. 
It's looking really good. 

1457
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,400
So who knows? 
Trayvon is do. 

1458
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,240
Do the other sprinters call him 
unk yet? 

1459
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,240
No, probably. 
They might. 

1460
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,000
I mean, between they, between 
Trayvon and Vernon, they're, 

1461
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,200
they're like the Unks. 
Like they, they are the Unks. 

1462
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,120
Shout out to both of them. 
But yeah, they they're like the 

1463
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,480
Unks. 
We got a tweet from Vernon who 

1464
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:13,320
said Kyle Merber's back. 
He's working for free, yeah. 

1465
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,080
He's like, what? 
Yeah, and then Rye Benjamin 

1466
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,920
responded with free murmur. 
All right. 

1467
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:25,160
Thanks to my guys. 
All right, shout out to those 

1468
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,760
60s though. 
Yeah, 60s would be will be good.

1469
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,720
Those are earlier in the in the 
program. 

1470
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,960
All right, now we get over to 
the women's Wanamaker Mile. 

1471
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,800
Update on this one is that Ellie
Saint Pierre, the three time 

1472
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,440
want to make her mile champion 
will not be racing tomorrow. 

1473
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:49,080
She got sick and has scratched. 
So the big headliners and 

1474
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:53,120
actually last year's champion, 
Georgia Hunter Bell is in the 

1475
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,480
middle of a training camp out in
South Africa. 

1476
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:59,440
So we will have a brand new 
champion in this race. 

1477
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:02,480
I mean, really, really strong 
field. 

1478
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:07,520
You got Dorcas Eloy, the world 
silver medalist in the 1500, the

1479
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,600
world bronze medalist also in it
with Jess Hall, who's I guess 

1480
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,520
I'm looking at this ranked 
number one in the world. 

1481
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,120
Then after that, you've got the 
US outdoor mile record holder in

1482
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:25,360
Sinclair Johnson, Nikki Hiltz, 
who's just always in contention 

1483
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,240
in these races, 3/3 time, I 
guess now outdoor and indoor 

1484
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:35,400
champion in the in the 1500s. 
So if it it, yeah, how many 

1485
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,600
56999 US titles? 
That's crazy she is with 

1486
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,720
including Rd. 
So you've got Nikki Sinclair, 

1487
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,920
Heather, who was the top 
American in last year's race, 

1488
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:52,640
Linden Hall coming off of a 
great run in Boston last 

1489
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,160
weekend. 
So with this one, it's another 

1490
01:14:55,160 --> 01:15:00,520
one where maybe there's 5-6 
people who could ultimately win 

1491
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:02,640
it. 
Man, there's so many and 

1492
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,680
especially 'cause you do have a 
few question marks in there, 

1493
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:06,160
right? 
Of like, we don't really know 

1494
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,480
what shape Heather's in. 
Have we seen Heather race? 

1495
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:12,680
No, this will be Heather's 
opener, indoor opener and also 

1496
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,600
her debut new sponsored just 
announced right before we went 

1497
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,400
live as signed with Adidas. 
So yeah, congratulations to her 

1498
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,640
on the new deal. 
But yeah, all right, so with 

1499
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,760
this one like Mac, if you could 
keep up the start list so we can

1500
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,680
go through it. 
I want to do sort of like the 

1501
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:33,360
case for and and and against for
maybe some of these the the top 

1502
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,840
five people that. 
Were handful? 

1503
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,600
Pick a handful. 
Yeah, not the whole. 

1504
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,160
Field. 
All right, One by one. 

1505
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:38,840
Let's go. 
Yeah. 

1506
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:42,880
Let's start with with with 
Dorcas Ewoi, who won last week 

1507
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,920
in the 1500 over Sinclair, over 
Sinclair. 

1508
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:50,600
I think, you know, even it was 
401, which I think is a really 

1509
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:52,920
solid. 
Solid great like indoor opener 

1510
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:57,200
like 401 for an indoor 15 first 
race of the season. 

1511
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,840
It's very fast like that is that
is a great time. 

1512
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,920
We saw how how Fitz Sinclair was
in that Hawaii mile with the 

1513
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,760
American record on the road. 
So she carried and she decided 

1514
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,800
like newly signed with Hoga 401.
That's great. 

1515
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,360
I mean, it would. 
It's really like if you were 

1516
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,840
going to say 5 athletes that 
we're going to like, I would 

1517
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:21,400
pick Dorcas, Nikki, Sinclair, 
Jess, Jess. 

1518
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,800
Linden Hall. 
Linden, I think that's your 

1519
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,280
five. 
I think that's my probably my 

1520
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,200
five. 
I think like, of course, 

1521
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:33,240
athletes like Heather McClain, 
you could see being that 

1522
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,040
handful, but it's just, it's, 
there's a, you know, it's, it's 

1523
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,880
a, you haven't seen a race yet. 
So I'm going to have that be my 

1524
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,400
my, my 5I. 
The thing that when you think 

1525
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,080
about Dorcas's win last week, I,
I do think it was bigger than 

1526
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,360
what the time was because she 
beat Sinclair and Sinclair is in

1527
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,160
really, really good form right 
now. 

1528
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,120
Sinclair treated that, that 
Hawaii race, which like, yeah, 

1529
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,600
maybe you don't extract a ton of
information from in in past 

1530
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,240
years, but that was the start of
basically her indoor build. 

1531
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:06,120
And I think this is her indoor 
season where she's like, you 

1532
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,200
know what? 
I don't have a global medal yet.

1533
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:10,960
I'm going to go all the way 
through World Indoors and 

1534
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:15,480
finally get one of those, so I 
think they're blasting the 

1535
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:16,720
music. 
Yeah, get into it. 

1536
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:22,680
I think, I think Sinclair is 
someone you could watch as like 

1537
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,280
maybe one of the top Americans 
this indoor season. 

1538
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,520
Yeah. 
Without a doubt. 

1539
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,760
Without a doubt. 
I mean, Sinclair has shown up 

1540
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:36,400
time and time again year after 
year and is getting she's got 

1541
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,120
the American record. 
Like, for us to be debating 

1542
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,520
whether Sinclair's the best is 
is not doing justice to how 

1543
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,880
great of an athlete she is. 
And to be like, oh, yeah, she's 

1544
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,120
closing down with Dorcas. 
Let's remember Dorcas was a 

1545
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,240
silver medalist at the World 
Championships. 

1546
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,160
And well, the first of better is
faith, the 1st of. 

1547
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:54,480
Better is faith and we talk 
about like, oh, the men's two 

1548
01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,840
mile is so great, but this is 
the all the fields assembled. 

1549
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,040
This is the this is the next 
best field. 

1550
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,760
We have so many fireworks in 
this field. 

1551
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,520
There's so many storylines, 
There's so many subplots. 

1552
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,200
We, we truly can't guess who 
will be the winner. 

1553
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,840
Like we've got. 
Are you dancing? 

1554
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,720
I mean, it is like it is really 
hard. 

1555
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,040
Like I'm gonna kick in the 
shoulders. 

1556
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:19,800
I'm not listening to a word 
you're saying. 

1557
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:29,120
I think like there's a little 
bit of a lag for Dorcas brand 

1558
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,680
and reputation to catch up with 
how good she is now. 

1559
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:37,520
I think on paper she should be 
the favorite, but I I just Nikki

1560
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,200
knows how to win. 
Race, he says. 

1561
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,240
Nikki, like you cannot, you 
cannot count them. 

1562
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,760
Out and it just I need to see 
the pace be pushed so quickly I 

1563
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:50,880
actually think it hurts dorkas 
that we lost Ellie because. 

1564
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,000
That's a big scratch. 
I think because Dorkas has run 

1565
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,320
fast, but she's not generally 
the one to do it. 

1566
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,440
And I think in order to get away
from Nikki, she's going to have 

1567
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:02,520
to do a lot of the work. 
A lot of the the athletes are 

1568
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:08,640
sit and kick heavy athletes. 
Nikki Sinclair, Dorcas, I mean, 

1569
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:12,280
the only Jess is an athlete that
is kind of she's a bit of a 

1570
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,040
question mark for me. 
Last week you saw her look a bit

1571
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,560
uncharacteristic for her, like 
just a you don't really, you've 

1572
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:21,680
never see her get run away from 
like that, right? 

1573
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,040
And so that was a bit and you 
never know exactly what's going 

1574
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,040
on long. 
You know, she's an Australian 

1575
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,680
athlete, which was it? 
A big travel day. 

1576
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:33,720
You could see her tomorrow being
somebody who pulls from a bit 

1577
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:37,600
farther out and tries to make it
a more honest, hard, hard race 

1578
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,560
from from farther out than than 
really let it. 

1579
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,840
I'm not. 
Necessarily thrown off by Jess's

1580
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:44,520
bad race because she's no, I 
mean that last time, right? 

1581
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,120
What was it was like load 
management basically was the 

1582
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,680
issue and when in the Diamond 
League and then she came back at

1583
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:53,440
Worlds and ran really well. 
I do kind of maybe think it's 

1584
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:58,640
like when we she does have a 
world indoor medal from the 3K 

1585
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,880
last year, but she's always just
a little bit sharper come 

1586
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,720
outdoor season. 
So for Jess, it's maybe also 

1587
01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:08,200
just with it, with this being I 
guess maybe not an off year for 

1588
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,360
her 'cause she's got calm games,
but the opportunity to. 

1589
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,200
Rewrite the script a little bit 
on like your resume when it 

1590
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,640
comes to indoor season where 
people are like, all right, 

1591
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:22,800
maybe she's not as good indoors 
as she is outdoors, but she she 

1592
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,360
is, this is a good opportunity 
to prove that. 

1593
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:29,040
So it is loud. 
And I love, I kind of love it. 

1594
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,800
Because they're they're testing 
this out for tomorrow. 

1595
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:35,640
Like the one qualm I have with 
so many indoor meats is that 

1596
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,600
they don't blast the music loud 
enough. 

1597
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,400
And now here this. 
Is blasting this is. 

1598
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,760
Blasting This is good, yeah. 
One person we're not talking 

1599
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,760
enough about is Linden Hall. 
And it's challenging, right? 

1600
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,680
When you have two giants for A1 
country at the same time, it's 

1601
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:53,240
like the one who's usually in 
the lead is the one who we talk 

1602
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,480
about. 
But Linden looked incredible 

1603
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,040
last year. 
Oh my God. 

1604
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:05,480
So that I'm like, OK, but yeah, 
look out for Linden tomorrow. 

1605
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:09,160
OK, Eric, you're like, I'm ready
to throw it back. 

1606
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,240
I was like I used to twerk or 
something. 

1607
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:17,040
I don't know all. 
Right, let's do. 

1608
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,800
Picks. 
Let's do picks, all right. 

1609
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,680
With time or what? 
Yeah, sure. 

1610
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:27,480
So what what? 
What's American record is is is 

1611
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,360
4/16? 
Yes, by Ellie a couple years ago

1612
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,600
at this. 
Meet what do you think? 

1613
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,960
Like like I think I don't know 
if, if they're like, are they in

1614
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,720
American record shape? 
Are you going to see in like 

1615
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,160
anything faster than 416 
tomorrow? 

1616
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,960
That seems like that'd be a big 
Obviously they can do it. 

1617
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:48,240
I I don't know if that would 
necessarily be my pick. 

1618
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,800
I think maybe 4/18, yeah, is 
what I think a good line is. 

1619
01:21:55,000 --> 01:22:01,760
I I think you'll probably be 
Dorcas and I'm going to go 

1620
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:05,960
Dorcas, but I can see Dorcas and
Nicky battling. 

1621
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,360
OK, I'm going. 
To go Dorcas coin flip for you. 

1622
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,760
Yeah, Yeah, I think I I. 
Totally agree. 

1623
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,600
Put respect on Dorcas's name 
like this is she's the silver 

1624
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,720
medalist. 
Yeah, just text. 

1625
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:22,000
Just text me. 
I'll text, I'll text you. 

1626
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,240
You text the group chat. 
Got it, got it. 

1627
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,840
I'm actually I'm out of it too. 
OK, cool, cool, cool. 

1628
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:34,160
Happy anniversary. 
I'm going Dorcas, I'm going 417 

1629
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:39,400
for the win. 417 OK. 
I'm gonna go Nikki, 4/20 Three. 

1630
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:42,120
OK, I don't think we're going. 
I think we're. 

1631
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:44,720
We're bunching up a little. 
We're looking at each other. 

1632
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,160
We thought Ellie was going to be
here. 

1633
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,720
Now she's not. 
We're talking in the hotel. 

1634
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,840
We're looking at each other and 
we lag a little 4/20. 

1635
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:53,480
Three. 
I like that. 

1636
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,960
I like Jess Holmes. 
I think she's going to bounce 

1637
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:01,480
back from last week, but I and I
think 4:20-ish. 4/20 I like 

1638
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:02,680
that. 
I like that. 

1639
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:08,560
I'm going to go. 
I'm going Sinclair for the win. 

1640
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,960
Love that, love that, love that.
419 yeah, I don't think it's a 

1641
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,920
record setting day, but I think 
that Sinclair, this is the 

1642
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,200
beginning of the tear she's 
gonna go on the rest of this 

1643
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,480
indoor season. 
I love it so. 

1644
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,240
All right, that brings us to the
men's. 

1645
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,840
Wanna make her mile? 
The big storyline is Yard to 

1646
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,000
Goose going for his fourth 
title. 

1647
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,320
What this race delivered us last
year was the top two all time 

1648
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:40,280
marks in with Yard and Hobbes 
before a week later, Jaka Binger

1649
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,800
Britson says no, actually let me
put my name at the top of the 

1650
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,560
all time list. 
And so Yard's world record 

1651
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,040
lasted a week, but still it was 
remarkable. 

1652
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:56,000
Then on top of that you had Cam 
Myers running four, it was 347 

1653
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:04,920
for 3rd place U20 world record. 
And what we've learned within 

1654
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,880
the past week is that Hobbs is 
in remarkable shape as after 

1655
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:14,920
breaking the 2K world record, 
then you had Cam blast to 3K in 

1656
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,440
727. 
I think the 727 was a little bit

1657
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:22,600
overlooked because of Hobb's 
world record performance. 

1658
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,320
And then Yard comes in with a 
little bit more question marks 

1659
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:28,000
because we don't know where he's
at necessarily. 

1660
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,440
But then at the same time, OC 
tends to open up at Milrose 

1661
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:33,440
Games. 
He wouldn't be here if he wasn't

1662
01:24:33,440 --> 01:24:36,360
in great shape. 
So those are the big three. 

1663
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,920
But then, you know, you could 
have the likes of Gary Martin, 

1664
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,440
who's run 348 also sneak in to 
contention. 

1665
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:47,680
It's one where like after the 
pacer drops off, that's when 

1666
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,200
things really start to get 
interesting. 

1667
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,360
So Kyle, how does this one 
actually no, no, we'll go to a 

1668
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:58,200
previous champ of this race like
Eric. 

1669
01:24:58,400 --> 01:24:59,840
How do you see this one playing 
out? 

1670
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:06,200
Oh, I I think as far as like the
the favourites, I would, I think

1671
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:10,840
like Hobbes, Kessler, Cam Meyers
so far this season just looked 

1672
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,160
fantastic. 
Could you see Yara doing 

1673
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:19,280
something different because he's
usually pacer drops off and then

1674
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:23,280
it's him in the front And Hobbs 
favorite spot to run 

1675
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,600
historically has just been glue 
yourself to yard and good things

1676
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:28,200
will happen. 
You'll make an Olympic team. 

1677
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,240
You'll just. 
It's always worked out for him. 

1678
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:34,360
Yeah. 
I think, I mean it's works very,

1679
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:38,080
very well for yard indoors, that
type of that running style. 

1680
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,960
He's got a very long stride. 
It's it can be tough for him to 

1681
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:45,720
to get not only get around him, 
but to him for it to be also 

1682
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,480
sitting on people indoors a long
stride, it can cause problems. 

1683
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:52,240
He does a good job running from 
the front, but you've just seen 

1684
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:57,080
how fit Kessler and Cam Myers 
are already. 

1685
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,800
Of course, Yard is unbelievably 
talented and has won this so 

1686
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,800
many times. 
You can't you'd never count him 

1687
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:08,200
out, but it's a tough place to 
open up when you've got Cam 

1688
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:11,320
Myers, who's already on fire, 
Hobbs Kessler, who's has so much

1689
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,520
momentum coming off of a world 
record last week. 

1690
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:17,280
Now how does now how did they 
recover off of that? 

1691
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,080
Right? 
Like a world record 2K isn't 

1692
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:21,920
something that you just get over
instantly. 

1693
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:25,680
So that could play into yards of
advantages. 

1694
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:31,360
But I think for for right now, I
think it'll be a toss up between

1695
01:26:32,440 --> 01:26:37,800
Kessler and and and and Ken 
Myers and, and Hobbs has done a 

1696
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,440
great job just being in the 
right spots. 

1697
01:26:40,440 --> 01:26:45,000
He like you said, he he finds 
whoever is in the first lead off

1698
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,840
of the rabbit and just sits on 
it And he and then he just and 

1699
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:51,080
and it never moves from that 
position. 

1700
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:55,760
So I think it's going to be it's
going to be tough to beat him. 

1701
01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:01,040
So I think I'm going to go. 
I'm going to go with Kessler for

1702
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,800
the win, OK. 
Yeah, you can share your. 

1703
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:04,960
Thoughts. 
Oh, I think it's going to go. 

1704
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:09,120
I think that everyone's going to
be looking to Yarid and I don't 

1705
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,680
think he wants it, but I think 
he's going to reluctantly end up

1706
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:16,120
taking it hold. 
Hold on, we also just happened. 

1707
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,000
BU just happened. 
What did Sam Ruth just. 

1708
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,800
Run Sam Ruth just ran 348.8. 8 
Unbelievable. 

1709
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,160
And after Josh Hoey scratched 
his. 

1710
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:28,200
Race 8.8 What? 
Did he was like, yeah, 16 years 

1711
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:32,440
old. 
And then Peter Sisk, who was in 

1712
01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:36,520
the in the 2K last week, I think
he was third in that race. 

1713
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,560
He just ran 350 as well. 
The pacer from last week? 

1714
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,000
It was Davis Bove. 
Is that? 

1715
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:42,640
Yeah. 
Where'd he go? 

1716
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,680
351 yes, and then Foster Malik, 
your boy. 

1717
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,360
Yeah, 351. 
Shout out Foster Malik. 

1718
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,360
Can we get Sam Ruth on the next 
train down? 

1719
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:57,360
Like, what are we doing? 
Yeah, get that kid in here. 

1720
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,040
Yeah, I mean, a spot had opened 
up, but I mean, this is still a 

1721
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,520
remarkable field and also it's a
big field. 

1722
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:07,280
Too Well so as I go into what I 
think is gonna happen. 

1723
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:12,000
So I think when Yared, when the 
rabbit steps off, Yared doesn't 

1724
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,360
have the same Bush and but I 
think Cam Myers is going to be 

1725
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,280
the one to try to take over. 
He's strong. 

1726
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,160
I think that he's better to do a
little bit of a wind up. 

1727
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,640
But I see Hobbes sitting there 
and I see Hobbes having an 

1728
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:27,880
unbelievable last 150 going to 
that last final turn and it's 

1729
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:31,120
going to be the biggest, most 
prestigious win of his career. 

1730
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,560
I think. 
I don't know if it's going to be

1731
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:34,760
a world record or not, but I 
this is Hobbes race. 

1732
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,000
Bob said. 
I think that there's been a 

1733
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,840
mental shift for him. 
He's he is working with like a 

1734
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:40,840
sports psych right now. 
And he's like, you know, usually

1735
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,880
I just like let other people 
take control. 

1736
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,360
And like for me, it's been about
just like he can get in his own 

1737
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:48,040
head. 
He's like, but I think his 

1738
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,560
specific instructions in the 
interview that I did with him 

1739
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,040
yesterday, he was like, I'm here
to fuck people up this year. 

1740
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:57,240
And I was like, Hobbs can. 
You say that on Sidious. 

1741
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,200
Like you can't curse on Sidious.
You can't. 

1742
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,520
Don't curse Sam. 
Ruse the city over. 

1743
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:05,760
He's never heard a curse word in
his life. 

1744
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,560
Yeah. 
But yeah, so there's been a 

1745
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:13,320
shift with Hobbs that I could 
definitely see him winning this 

1746
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:18,280
race, Aisha. 
I don't think we give Hobbs 

1747
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,440
enough credit. 
I think if we look historically,

1748
01:29:21,440 --> 01:29:26,520
he is one of the best, if not 
the best to ever do it as an 

1749
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,440
American. 
He's still so young and he's 

1750
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:31,920
gaining so much momentum every 
year. 

1751
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:35,000
And I think a lot of times it 
really is just the mental shift 

1752
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,000
that an athlete needs is that is
the intention behind the racing.

1753
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:42,920
And with that last final piece, 
I think Hobbes is going to be a 

1754
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,040
world beater for years to come. 
Hobbes, if he would have gone to

1755
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:50,000
college and taken like a red 
shirt year, maybe this would 

1756
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,200
have been like his fifty or 
something. 

1757
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:52,760
Like could you imagine that? 
It's like we would have had 

1758
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,720
Hobbs in college at the same 
time as Cam Myers and Gary 

1759
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,840
Martin, but instead we're 
beating here at the at the 

1760
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,520
Miller Rose games. 
What's the what's the best day 

1761
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:06,400
scenario for someone like Gary? 
Well, so Gary ran 348 here last 

1762
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:07,960
year and that was a huge 
breakout. 

1763
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,720
I think if he honestly matches 
that, I think if he comes out 

1764
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:15,000
and he's like I, I don't think 
Gary needs to win. 

1765
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,800
Or I think if he comes out and 
he has a solid performance, 

1766
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:20,960
finishes in the top five and 
runs under 350. 

1767
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,760
If I'm a Gary Martin head, which
I am, I'm just feel good about 

1768
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:24,880
the year. 
Could you see him winning? 

1769
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:27,000
I could see him winning into the
blaze. 

1770
01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:33,760
And so, yeah, I mean, I think 
he's he had had a great cross 

1771
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:37,080
country season based off of 
Strava and conversation, it 

1772
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,400
seems like he's doing really 
well. 

1773
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,200
I don't know if he's ready to be
scaring 346 tomorrow, but I 

1774
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,280
think he hit 348. 
Another one the I like where 

1775
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,280
that trajectory brings him. 
Is there a dark horse? 

1776
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:52,480
Yeah, Andrew Koskaran, OK, He 
raced really well last week at 

1777
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:55,720
at New Balance. 
He tends to put himself in the 

1778
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,080
in the right position and 
capitalize on moments. 

1779
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:02,680
He's got a great, great kick is 
is very aerobically strong, so 

1780
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,280
we should look out for Koskren. 
There's one guy in this field 

1781
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:10,520
who has an indoor PB over 4 
minutes and that's Nico Young. 

1782
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:14,760
Like, could he be Because he's 
run super well at altitude when 

1783
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,720
you do the mile conversions and 
all that stuff. 

1784
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,480
Then he's gone on and run really
well at Washington's oversized 

1785
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:24,960
track, but I guess we haven't 
really seen him blast a mile on 

1786
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,640
the track at a track like this. 
So what's best day scenario for 

1787
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,720
someone like Nico? 
Nikos run 350. 

1788
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,400
Yeah. 
Indoors. 

1789
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:36,400
Yeah, are you saying at Dempsey?
But that was at the Dempsey. 

1790
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:42,480
Yeah, if you whatever like. 
I know I like. 

1791
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:46,120
It too big, too little. 
Stickler for the rules. 

1792
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,040
BU doesn't count that. 
Yeah, like BU doesn't count. 

1793
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,160
I don't acknowledge anything. 
And if you have a rabbit. 

1794
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:56,200
Also, if you this is actually a 
rule in my head is if you're not

1795
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,560
top 8 that PB doesn't count. 
Agreed, you're not great if. 

1796
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,240
It. 
Will beat you, You suck, it 

1797
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:03,920
doesn't count. 
You'll get to celebrate. 

1798
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,840
That yeah, you shouldn't get 
bonused out if you're if you're.

1799
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:08,320
Ridiculous. 
Yeah. 

1800
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:11,160
If you're not, yeah. 
If we think back, how many of 

1801
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:16,200
your PBS were 8th place or? 
All of my PBS I was either 

1802
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,000
winning or about. 
To drop it dude it. 

1803
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,840
Was years ago. 
Yeah, I'm like, I'm like. 

1804
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,000
And this is exactly why I love 
the group chat. 

1805
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:28,680
It's toxic as hell. 
Did you win your PB when you 

1806
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,400
came into the 700th at the New 
York City a bigger man? 

1807
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,560
Kyle, look, look, let. 
Me give you bring everything 

1808
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:37,680
back. 
I think a dark horse. 

1809
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:43,240
Robert Farkin, Ollie Hort. 
These are guys Ollie let's get 

1810
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:46,240
away from PRS and where we 
finished in the race. 

1811
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,320
Those are guys who like you 
know, Ollie whore runs really 

1812
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:52,640
aggressive a lot. 
He always usually gets after it.

1813
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,560
You got yard and a goose as your
teammate. 

1814
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:57,400
There could be like a bit of 
work in the they know the plan 

1815
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:01,120
working together. 
So you can I if I were to have a

1816
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:03,560
dark horse of the guys that I 
mentioned, I could see, you 

1817
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:06,200
know, Farkin has run really well
last year. 

1818
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,480
Maybe he, maybe he or Ollie 
whore could be the one. 

1819
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,840
Prediction, Time predictions, 
Who you got? 

1820
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,040
And what's I'm gonna go, I'm 
gonna go. 

1821
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:21,000
Kessler, 347. 
Aisha. 

1822
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:31,520
Kessler, 346 Seven. 
You're there with me. 

1823
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:38,360
It's always. 
I'm going with man, we're all 

1824
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:39,920
gonna go Hobbes. 
I'm gonna go Hobbes. 

1825
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,680
And I think if they break the 
world record in the two mile, 

1826
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,800
then they'll break it. 
I like that. 

1827
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:45,600
That's fine. 
I like that. 

1828
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:47,640
Wait, So what do they what do 
they run? 

1829
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,480
Then they run 346 with a better 
decimal. 

1830
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:52,760
No. 
World record's 345, Yeah. 

1831
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:54,560
Oh yeah, shit. 
You're like, no, I forgot about 

1832
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,640
that. 
No, but that wasn't in America 

1833
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,280
and I don't acknowledge non 
American. 

1834
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:01,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That only times have to be run 

1835
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:04,840
on 200 meter ovals in America 
that are blue in order. 

1836
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,840
To count specifically. 
Yeah. 

1837
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,840
All right. 
So no world record, but maybe, 

1838
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:10,960
but 340 seconds. 
Yeah. 

1839
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,080
American record. 
Thank you, Barry. 

1840
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:12,680
Good save. 
Thank you. 

1841
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,440
Very. 
Forgiven for everything. 

1842
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:19,720
I'm. 
I'm going Hobbs and I I think, I

1843
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:22,800
think just above the American 
record. 

1844
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:27,400
So, So 346 or 46? 
Yeah, just just under 347. 

1845
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:30,680
OK. 
I am going to go, I'm going to 

1846
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,560
go Kim Myers, just to be a 
little bit different. 

1847
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,000
And you, like, spoke to him this
morning? 

1848
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:35,720
And he does. 
He does deserve someone. 

1849
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:37,800
He deserves someone to say he's 
going to win. 

1850
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,960
Yeah, he took it from 400 out 
against Graham last week. 

1851
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:47,160
I that's going to be a hard move
to try and make on someone like 

1852
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:51,240
Yarid from 400 out so. 
I mean, it wasn't, but it really

1853
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:54,760
was an impressive move to run 
727. 

1854
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:57,280
And then on top of that, his 
he's. 

1855
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,120
Got the Jamaican lean. 
He knows no telling what. 

1856
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,200
There's no spelling. 
What you can do? 

1857
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:08,640
And but also we ran 349 at the 
Dempsey. 

1858
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:13,400
Doesn't count, as we know. 
So, but that looked he was the 

1859
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:16,240
second-half 151. 
I think of that of that race. 

1860
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:17,760
I'm unfamiliar with the splits, 
yeah. 

1861
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,720
So what do you? 
Want that's my 800 PR. 

1862
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,360
But if you wouldn't, if you 
would've had to break. 

1863
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:33,160
Wait, so no one picked Yarry? 
All right, someone off camera 

1864
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,960
from our team is picking Yarry. 
Just a couple of our. 

1865
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,120
Buttons but hand up. 
Oh. 

1866
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:43,040
Mac is picking yard, Yeah. 
Don't you gamer? 

1867
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:46,360
Yeah, there we go. 
There we. 

1868
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:51,920
Go. 
So that does it. 

1869
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,240
We want to hear your 
predictions. 

1870
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:57,480
Hit us in the comment section on
this YouTube channel or if 

1871
01:35:57,480 --> 01:36:01,320
you're listening on Spotify, 
drop your predictions for both 

1872
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:03,520
the men's two mile and both the 
Wanamaker miles. 

1873
01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:07,480
We're in for an absolute treat. 
You can watch it all unfold on 

1874
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,760
NBC and Peacock from 4:00 PM to 
6:00 PM. 

1875
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:14,160
And then after that, we're going
to get together and do our post 

1876
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,400
race show. 
Just due to some of the 

1877
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,160
logistics of having to move all 
of this equipment around and 

1878
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:21,720
setting up immediately after the
race. 

1879
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,520
It won't be live, but we are 
going to tape it and then 

1880
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:29,240
premiere it as soon as we can. 
So don't expect a live link 

1881
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,720
tomorrow, but that's it'll be 
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1882
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,520
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1883
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1884
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,240
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1885
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1886
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I believe that was like their 

1887
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It's also been featured on 

1888
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1889
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1890
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1891
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1894
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1895
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,480
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1896
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1897
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,600
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1898
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:36,280
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1899
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,760
I got some Flack for that from 
like, people in Europe. 

1900
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:39,720
They're like, what about 
leaving? 

1901
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,040
And I was like. 
I'm leaving that one alone. 

1902
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:46,200
Nice, here we. 
Go hold that down. 

1903
01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:48,840
Thanks for watching. 
We'll see you guys tomorrow. 

1904
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,600
Oh, no chocolates today, Mr. 
Woods. 

1905
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:06,920
No, Ruby, this is all I need, 
Pop always told me. 

1906
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,560
Life is like a box of all the 
pops, all the flavour and fiber 

1907
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:13,800
you'll ever need to get far in 
life. 

1908
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:28,600
Boy was he right. 
I never really had an angle, 

1909
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,360
never had a reason to stop 
either. 

1910
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:35,000
All I knew was I could run 
forever with one until I ran 

1911
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:36,280
out. 
And then? 

1912
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,640
What? 
I went home. 

1913
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:39,920
Oh.
