1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,360 Welcome to Sidious Mag, live from the 2025 World 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Championships. Chris Chavez here with Eric 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,960 Jenkins and Mitch Dyer, and we are ready to unpack all the 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,600 action that just took place on day five of the World 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,560 Championships. Shout out to our presenting 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:25,040 sponsor, A6 for supporting all of our coverage of these World 7 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,280 Championships. They're going above and beyond 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,439 to have us field a full team to be able to provide this wall to 9 00:00:32,439 --> 00:00:35,760 wall action. You know, we're at every single 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,600 session. We are there from start to 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,840 finish where our social team is in the stands getting kicked out 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 up until the last second because they've got their laptops out 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,080 just sitting out there. But. 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Did they get tossed? It's it's like sort of like you, 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,880 you have to go. And they're like, yeah, it's 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,040 finally time. It's been an hour after the last 17 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,680 race has ended, but ASICS are supporters and, you know, 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,280 getting our full team out here. Johnny Zhang got a massage. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,280 I booked a massage for tomorrow at the ASICS house. 20 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:12,640 So taking care of our bodies, we just all got fresh new pairs of 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 the Mega Blast. Eric, have you got any chance to 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,040 run in these? You've been running in the Super 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Blast, but these are the Mega Blast. 24 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Look at these things. I guess I've been a bit. 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,320 OK, so I've been running in something Blast. 26 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:28,360 Yeah, Tuber blast. And these are the mega, mega, of 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,440 course. Well, of course. 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,120 Well, we got a group. Run in a day 2 days from now, 29 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:32,920 yeah. Two days. 30 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,920 Yeah, I've been tapering for the group run. 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:41,720 These look nice. The 1500 meter world champion 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,080 trains in these things because we'll get to who ended up being 33 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:48,800 the gold medalist. Now you won't be at the, you'll 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,480 be there. The mediate 100 or the group 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,400 run. The group run, yeah, no, I'm 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,800 like Chris, let's go one event at a time. 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,080 I'm not yet talking about the Mediate 100, but yes, as 38 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,760 everybody knows, you've got a bum knee and it's on the it's. 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,199 You're healing on the mend. That's why you've got a massage. 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:09,800 Yeah, I didn't know that. A. 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,960 Massage is going to heal me. I used to know massage was an 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,080 option. No, if you go to Asic's house 43 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:21,840 and like you're on the list, which we are, we you can book a 44 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,080 massage. Well, they, they ask you are, 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,800 are you running? And I like, I take that to mean 46 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,520 as in like competing at the meet. 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,400 I used to say yes. And we are running, but we also 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,440 were given the green light that it's like, yeah, you guys are 49 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,120 working hard and deserve some massages. 50 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,480 So you said so they asked are you running? 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,600 You said yes. Yeah, what they think about the 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,600 knee brace. Yeah. 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,760 So yeah, I said, I said yes, technically I'm entered in the 54 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,200 media 800, but I will not be running. 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,240 Yeah. They don't know yet that your 56 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,760 DNS in the media 800. What is that? 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,920 Tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning. 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,800 Christ. We'll unpack that at the very 59 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,640 end. Yeah, let's let's say that for 60 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:07,560 the end. Yeah. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:14,640 All right, so let us dive right into the men's 1500, which has 62 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:19,160 been the event that we've been looking forward to for a very, 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,920 very long time. I woke up this morning, first 64 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:28,040 thing I did was I fired off a tweet saying happy Men's 1500 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,800 meter final day to all who celebrate. 66 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,960 And in the stands, we're chatting, we're like. 67 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,840 Super divisive tweet. I I, I did get one person who 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,720 was like, I only celebrate the women's. 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,280 Yeah, totally. But anyway, it's been on our 70 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,200 mind the whole entire time, all throughout the afternoon at 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,320 lunch, asking who's your top three? 72 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,360 I checked back in when we're in the stands. 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:04:00,120 And then when it's time for the race to finally go off it, you 74 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,320 know, I guess like we were, if we were not expecting like a 327 75 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,120 race, like last year, if anything over the past couple 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 days has told us this is going to be a tactical affair. 77 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,560 And it sure was. Niels Laros goes to the front. 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Nothing extravagant in terms of just like the pace to really 79 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,040 burn the wheels out of anybody. Everyone was in contention 80 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:26,200 except for Josh Kerr, who with 600 meters to go suffers A calf 81 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:33,200 strain or pull something. And Mack Fleet, who is sitting 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:34,960 in the stands with us, knew immediately. 83 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:41,960 He has suffered many a calf holes and strains in the last 84 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,920 couple years. So super unfortunate in that 85 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,080 sense because he's one of the favorites for this race. 86 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,720 Then Laros up in the front is commanding things. 87 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Timothy Cheriot right on his heels, which Eric very astutely 88 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,160 pointed out was like, well, there might be some team tactics 89 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,800 happening here. They're training partners. 90 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,760 So yes. But again, like the pace is not 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,720 fast enough to eliminate everybody. 92 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,080 And so at the bell that you just have everyone is still except 93 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,480 for Josh Kerr is still in contention. 94 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Jake Whiteman in great position all throughout. 95 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,880 And he ends up being the one to really make the move. 96 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,200 And I'm, I'm, I'm in the stands saying this is 2022 all over 97 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,920 again. Because it, it, the move came a 98 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,000 little bit earlier than when he pulled it on on Jakob. 99 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:43,080 But it started to feel like that might have been a little bit too 100 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,280 early, especially when you have, you know, guys who are closing 101 00:05:46,280 --> 00:05:49,720 in 12.5 seconds for the final 100 meters. 102 00:05:51,280 --> 00:05:55,720 So the final hundred ends up being where the medals are 103 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360 decided. And So what ends up happening in 104 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,800 that final stretch is a shock to all of us. 105 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:09,280 Isaac Nader of Portugal ends up winning, gets Jake Whiteman 106 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,120 with, what, 25 meters left in the in the race. 107 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Yeah. Right on the line. 108 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:22,440 So Jake ends up finishing second, Reynolds Chariot third, 109 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,440 Reynolds chariot again, one of those guys who has insane 110 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,080 closing speed. Timothy Chariot 4th, Niels Laros 111 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,680 5th. And then from there, you know, 112 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:40,880 it's it was just a crapshoot, but Isaac Nader was +6000 to to 113 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,240 win this race. Not too many people saw this one 114 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,160 coming. Certainly they they get bigger. 115 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,160 Than that in the whole entire time, like I'm saying, we're all 116 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,760 in in the stands in shock after the race. 117 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Nader is a guy that's always making these finals. 118 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:08,640 He's always in the mix as far as being there, but he's never he's 119 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:12,320 never the guy it. The only time the season was 120 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,880 Oslo Diamond League where he won the dream mile. 121 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,440 And then when I brought this up to Mac in our in our preview 122 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,880 episode, I was we were going over just sort of the case for 123 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,960 and the case against a lot of these top contenders. 124 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,240 I brought up Isaac Nader and he it was very dismissive. 125 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,480 But like, the only reason why I brought him up is because I was 126 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,360 like, yeah, but that dream mile earlier on in the season, but it 127 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,640 frankly like it so many people would have had the same feelings 128 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 as as Mac. Yeah, I don't have a a camera on 129 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,120 me right here. But yeah, no, it was just I I 130 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,600 think it was the the time that he had run And also just like 131 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:49,760 the lack of showing up in in the contention sort of range over 132 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,160 the last few years. But like to to Eric's point, he 133 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,320 has been making finals and I think in a situation like this, 134 00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:01,560 like the the conditions that are here, it brings everyone into 135 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,120 play. It's slow. 136 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,760 We're not running 327 here. It's just it's physically just 137 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,680 not possible. So there's some weird stuff 138 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,400 happening here. It there's some weird like 139 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,920 anatomical, biological, like the it's it's, it's different here. 140 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,560 Tracks cursed, obviously. But like it, it brings people 141 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,160 like him into play and allowed him to show up and guess. 142 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:28,640 And you know what it it is, it's the same for everybody here, 143 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,559 like it is anywhere else. And, and he showed up today and 144 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,480 ran the race that was late. He's world champion. 145 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,039 Yeah, and I mean, he, he had to, he had to go pretty wide and, 146 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:42,159 and reach pretty deep in the bag to get there too, because while 147 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,720 everyone was hugging the rail and Whiteman had the benefit of 148 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,480 running the shortest distance like you'd done, he just 149 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,440 tactically ran it. So his whole rounds in the 150 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,120 final, he he just looked like the smartest guy in the field in 151 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,320 terms of the way that he picked things apart and put himself in 152 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,880 the right spots. And I thought it was enough. 153 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,520 I actually thought that he'd made a smart move up the back 154 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,080 straight to try and clear some space from the carnage that was 155 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,040 going to ensue behind, but you have to hand it to a guy that 156 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,280 throws out to lane 3 or 4 just to get a clean shot in the home 157 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,040 straight. And yeah, on the line, like 158 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,760 point O2, I think from memory was the difference between gold 159 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,840 and silver. Like literally nailed him, 160 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,200 pinged him on the line. And it's a great reward for 161 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,400 effort because it we're seeing it honestly a fair bit of these 162 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,480 championships, people that have been thereabouts, but not quite 163 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,560 like always a bridesmaid, never the bride and now having their 164 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:35,000 day and and hats off to him because it's been a phenomenal, 165 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,680 phenomenal run from him. It's why I like this event is so 166 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:40,400 fun, right? Because you're looking at this 167 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,800 podium right now and you would never like, I would have, I 168 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,200 would have bet my life that Kerr or Laros would be on that podium 169 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,120 somewhere. And to see Nader, First off, 170 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,680 Whiteman has looked great this this whole championship series. 171 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,240 And especially for a guy that didn't he, he just he didn't win 172 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,400 the British champs. He's had an up and down season, 173 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,800 been injured for a lot of it. And but it it's a guy that knows 174 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,400 championship racing. And so this is that experience 175 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,000 pays off. But it's like this, this event 176 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,240 is so hit or miss in a lot of with a lot of these type of 177 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,720 things. And to see Josh Kerr, you just 178 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,520 don't really see a guy get injured like that. 179 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,760 Yeah, mid race. I thought he must have been 180 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,640 stepped on or who would come off or something just from the fire 181 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,440 out in the crowd, I thought. I thought that's what had 182 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,480 happened. That was, I think, everyone's 183 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,640 first impression. But the replay was just, it was 184 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,520 just him. Yeah. 185 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,840 Oh yeah, no, I mean strain his what? 186 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:54,160 Strain his calf? Yeah, but I mean, usually a calf 187 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,080 strain doesn't creep up on you like that. 188 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,360 It must have been laboring on tightness for a while. 189 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,600 But man, what a race. Yeah, this isn't. 190 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,240 What a race. This is a good one. 191 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Just a quick Fact Check that came to us from from the YouTube 192 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,160 chat. And I guess like it, Like Eric, 193 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,760 I'm not gonna check you every single time, but when you said 194 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,920 that Isaac Nader has made so many finals, actually, this is 195 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,880 the first global championship final. 196 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,080 Day like I'm not gonna take you every time but like you are so 197 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,760 wrong on this front one is but. I can see where your confusion 198 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:29,160 comes from me where it's it's he's made so many of these like 199 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,880 European Team Championship, European Junior Championships, 200 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,560 European the. How many majors has he been to? 201 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,560 What number? World champ? 202 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:38,040 What number? I'm looking at that right now. 203 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,240 So you 2022 World Championships 1500 just in the heats 2023 204 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,480 World Championships makes the no. 205 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,120 I guess you're right. He makes the final and he 206 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 finishes 12. So that was 1 go. 207 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Big in 10, really big for me world. 208 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,680 Championships finish the second, so this is the Second World. 209 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,160 In an Olympic final, maybe. No Olympics, he made it just to 210 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,520 the semis and was bouncing point. 211 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,080 He's been around a lot. Yeah, he has. 212 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,840 Been around a lot. Yeah, indoor. 213 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Indoor. He has made finals 2022, 214 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,440 2024-2025. South, he's been OK so. 215 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,120 So Eric, yeah, Eric's not wrong. Yeah. 216 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:13,720 And. Then. 217 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:15,160 Chris what? What? 218 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,840 What you'll get? Yeah, and and. 219 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,800 Fired. You're. 220 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,320 Still good you no, you're. Good. 221 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,600 I know, I know, I know. What? 222 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,760 What is Dean? It's like 6 different guys have 223 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,520 won over the last six years. That's an incredible statistic. 224 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,720 So going into this, like, yeah, we're like, Oh yeah, someone's 225 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,840 going to win again. But like, here we are again, 226 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,480 it's, it's a new guy. It's just it, it's impossible to 227 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,880 just win this the the global championship twice, right on the 228 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,800 men's. 15 and what are and what are three world champs we've had 229 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,960 in the men's 1500 you you date back to again that wait Jake 230 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,440 Whiteman kick over the top of the ark. 231 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,840 He was like, wow, I could I could not have seen that happen. 232 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,120 And then the smack talk between Kerr and Ingebritsen, it kind of 233 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,840 blossoms from this is like, Oh my God, he's the world champion. 234 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,920 And then Nader now is the world champion. 235 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,920 And I don't know, look, I don't know whether this guy talks a 236 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,400 lot of smack. I can't imagine that there's 237 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,760 going to be a lot of that coming out of her. 238 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,600 But to your point, Mack, it's like good luck ever predicting a 239 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,000 final really from here on out. The history would suggest and 240 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,640 stack up now in recency that it's near impossible, But it it 241 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,440 was just AI found it to be a kind of a strange rate. 242 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,400 I I don't think I predicted anything outside of the time 243 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,600 correctly. I thought it would be, and maybe 244 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,560 because he had been labouring over the car, if I thought it'd 245 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:34,000 be Kerr that got to the front and ran at the tempo that Laros 246 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,280 did, and Laros would be maybe a little bit further back than 247 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:41,440 leading a Global Championship final, it just surprised me to 248 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,080 see him up there immediately. And then, yeah, Timmy with the 249 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,800 squeeze and came around and started to push the tempo and 250 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,560 you could see it from theirs. But it was I was surprised at 251 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:53,560 the way that some of these guys ran tactically. 252 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,320 OK. Well, I was thinking about like 253 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Laura says, had this world class kick for every single race he's 254 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,600 been in, no matter the pace. The guy can close at an insane 255 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,400 pit, insane speed. And today he just didn't have 256 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,720 it. And you're seeing that that 257 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,840 conditions are hot. It's tough to have that pop at 258 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,160 at this camp, he says for some reason. 259 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,960 But everybody and myself included, I'm like Lauro's is 260 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,040 going to end up on that podium somehow. 261 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,600 And to see him, see him off of it obviously occur with the 262 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,920 injury, it's it's a bit of a different situation. 263 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:39,160 But to see neither of those guys on the podium and super happy 264 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,160 for Jake. Jake's a, yes, super great guy 265 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:48,680 and he's been love to see him back on the top after like being 266 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,080 injured and having to sit out for championships and not being 267 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,080 able to compete to to have him come back and he barely lost it 268 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,200 right? Like Nader had to really pull 269 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,680 something special out of them and just to barely get him at 270 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,240 the line. So I'm very happy for Jake. 271 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,360 But man, it's it's This is why this event is one of the most 272 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,080 fun of the the entire meet. We haven't even gotten a chance 273 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,840 to rewatch it. Like we bolted out of the 274 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,840 stadium, got on the trains and then came right here to to yap 275 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,720 about it. Good question. 276 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,920 Dropped in in the YouTube chat that I'm curious to hear what 277 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:25,080 what you would think about it. The athletes have seen how all 278 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,880 the other mid distance races have been going. 279 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,400 Why didn't they try a different strategy? 280 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,440 We're we're in the sense of like what? 281 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,680 Like different strategy like that you should have. 282 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,680 That should have gone hard from the start. 283 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,080 Or well. I guess the only other different 284 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,600 strategy off the top of my head would have been the Timmy C move 285 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,160 which we suggested last night, which has been like he should 286 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,280 have just pulled it from from the beginning, but it just. 287 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:51,560 No, no, I, I think the only like, I think the real strategy 288 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,680 with these middle distance races and I when I say middle distance 289 00:15:54,680 --> 00:16:00,440 races, I mean primarily just the 15 is a a squeeze like Kippy, a 290 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:06,160 gun. Yeah, like it it is harder in my 291 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:11,800 opinion to when to have A to race against someone like faith 292 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,480 or like just to be in the race where they're squeezing as 293 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,400 opposed to fast from the start. When it's fast from the start 294 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,160 and you've seen it with lots of races in it recently, is that 295 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,360 when it's fast and if you get out hard, you can settle a bit 296 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,920 and then gather yourself. But when you're when you have 297 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:34,800 somebody who's just gradually picking it up very subtly lap by 298 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,720 lap or, you know, half lap by half lap, it's just it's harder. 299 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,760 I think that would have been the move. 300 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,240 But The thing is, it's just so tough to do, right? 301 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Like it's so tough. You can say that that that is 302 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:53,280 your best option, but you get to the line, the gun goes off and 303 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,560 then plants go out the window, right? 304 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,640 It's like, OK, I, it's, it takes a really savvy and confident 305 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,440 person to operate in that type of situation and to do that. 306 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,560 So it's, it's, it is tough to have a game plan and just to 307 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:13,319 nail it. Yeah. 308 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,000 So it's it's it's it's hard. I, I think if anyone would have 309 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,480 done it today, it would have been Josh, but I, I, I think. 310 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,960 Someone's at our door, just close it. 311 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,800 Yeah, sorry. There's there, there might be 312 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,080 someone outside of our door. I, I, I think if anyone would 313 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,360 have done it, it would have been Josh. 314 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:40,800 But I think watching him race, I, I, I, I called out to these 315 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:46,880 guys right when they broke, I was like, oh, Josh's Josh went 316 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,360 into the rail in the back of the race. 317 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,160 Like, that's something that I don't think that we've seen him 318 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,720 done in like. Five years long time. 319 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,720 Yeah, he usually goes to the front and is in the top four and 320 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,880 races from the top 4. So I I would venture to say that 321 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:05,000 something happened between the semi final and today for for his 322 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:09,400 calf to kind of go. And what the question was what, 323 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,480 like, why didn't they do something differently? 324 00:18:12,120 --> 00:18:14,240 Is like you got to look at the you got to look at the field, 325 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,080 like who in here is a front runner? 326 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,440 And the only answer there is like a really healthy, fit Josh 327 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,000 who is was clearly hurt. Or Timmy C. 328 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Or Timmy C from four years ago. Yeah, and and Tim, Tim's running 329 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:33,160 better than he has recently than he had over the last compared to 330 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,080 the last three years. The last, the, the, the last 331 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:41,920 time he he front ran in in one world champs in 20/19/19. 332 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,920 That's six years ago, yeah. Like. 333 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,640 He's he just doesn't like. Well, on top of that, he trains 334 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,200 with Neil Zaros and so he knows that like even within his 335 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,040 training group, he's not gonna just tee it up for his training 336 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,720 partner to also win gold. So he's got to look out for 337 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,280 himself in that sense and and not make his own bed there. 338 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,600 And and this and it's just, it's different here. 339 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,680 Like the conditions here are are crazy. 340 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,640 They're hard. They're really, really hard. 341 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,120 And it's muggy. Like we you can see the humidity 342 00:19:08,120 --> 00:19:09,720 we were talking about. You can literally see the 343 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,000 humidity across the stadium. Yeah, Like it, it's like you 344 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,480 have cataracts in there. Like the air is thick. 345 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,000 It's hot soup. And so like, no, no one's 346 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,240 running 327. If you think that like, oh, why 347 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,440 didn't someone just go out there and run some 330? 348 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,920 Like it's just not possible. We were watching the guys 349 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,680 struggle to run 340 in the in the prelims. 350 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,240 Yeah. And so like we watched the semi 351 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,520 finals and we were like, Oh yeah, we like these guys were 352 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,760 hurting around 3:35. It's probably going to be around 353 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:37,000 there. They ran 334. 354 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,320 Yeah, you, you're a bit of a sacrificial lamb. 355 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,720 I think if you were to try and go hard from the start because 356 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,040 your body just wouldn't handle it. 357 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,000 And every athlete that I've spoken to, at least in the mix 358 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,040 zone has had the same thing to say. 359 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,120 It's like they can't quite quantify what it is about the 360 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:54,920 conditions or the track that is making it feel slow. 361 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,000 But it feels hard. I've heard some of them have 362 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,560 said it feels like they're running with concrete in their 363 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,120 pockets. They just, they just cannot get 364 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:03,360 their legs to tick over the way that they used to. 365 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:06,280 So. And, and psychologically, when 366 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,720 you're trying to call on your body to do something you know it 367 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,320 can do and it won't, even that can be tiring. 368 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,120 Like it's the little things. It might not even be the 369 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:16,280 physical tiredness, it's the mental game of of getting tired 370 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,240 with that. Think of these guys like what 371 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,320 splits they've been training for, for the last three years. 372 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,120 Yeah, right. Which is all like 329-320-8327 373 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,880 stuff. And they're, and, and all of 374 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,880 these guys have been training over the last 12 months looking 375 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,480 at that, that Olympic final going like, OK, in order to get 376 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,920 a medal, I have to run 327. They've been training to run 327 377 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,040 or 326 all year long. And then they get here and 378 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,280 they're trying to, to your point, they're trying to reason 379 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:48,080 with like, oh, I'm going to go out in like 59. 380 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,360 Yeah. And it might not be easy. 381 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,760 Yeah. And these guys haven't run a 59 382 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,600 in a like a aerobic like 6432 Rep in the last five years. 383 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,120 Yeah, of like a meaningful Rep like that. 384 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:05,280 I'm sure also that there was going into this meet, they had 385 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:11,240 ideas and plans about what a, you know, what a perfect final 386 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,680 would look like game plan wise. And then you get out in this 387 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,240 opening round and you realize what the how they feel out there 388 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,520 and how the conditions have changed. 389 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,640 And then that will for sure dictate how the next race goes. 390 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,880 And then if they're lucky enough, how the final will go. 391 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:34,240 So they line up today and they're like, man, these last 392 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,720 two races, I haven't felt like it's been very tough. 393 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,760 And so, yeah, the the squeeze in an ideal day when you're feeling 394 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,080 fantastic, when the pop is there is how I might want to do this. 395 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,680 But I mean, if I feel anything like I felt on these opening 396 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,200 rounds, the squeeze, is it going to be there? 397 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,120 So now it's like I just have to be tactically in the right place 398 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:02,840 at the right time and just be hopefully I'm I'm fighting for 399 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,680 the medal at at when this last 100 comes about. 400 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Yeah, And I felt like I thought that's maybe what Timmy was 401 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,400 doing when he did obviously pick up the tempo. 402 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000 I thought maybe he'd just go like, alright, I'm gonna RIP the 403 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,240 band that. Yeah. 404 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,080 And it's like, jump on board, boys, let's see who can roll. 405 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,120 But clearly to everyone's point, it's that's just not, it's not 406 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,760 possible like in these conditions, it just is not 407 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,640 something that's possible. So even that move would have 408 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,000 fried a lot of legs in that in that period. 409 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,400 My last bit, just on my personal bit, same as Eric, shout out to 410 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,280 to Jake, like Dana ran an amazing race. 411 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,080 I hey, little bit of bias don't have any personal connection to 412 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,320 him, but Jake I do. We like early in his career and 413 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,720 late in mine. We shared, you know, same agent 414 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,320 and we're on the same tour together. 415 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,640 Love that dude and I'm just so happy to see him back in the 416 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,920 medals. 100%. Especially after he, the dude is 417 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,480 injury prone like none other. And he had a coaching change 418 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,680 this year, which was definitely tough. 419 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,280 Like, you're choosing to and they're all good. 420 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Like choosing to leave your dad, who's been coaching here 421 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,800 forever, who's calling in the stadium. 422 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,920 Yeah, for you and for both of you to decide, like, hey, we got 423 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,720 to do something different. Like this isn't working and and 424 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,520 you're you're choosing to leave your coach, who is also your 425 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:24,480 father that you won a world championship gold with because 426 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,040 you just you, you figure it's just not working at this point. 427 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,800 And then to to come out on the other end after dropping out of 428 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,880 a few races because of injury or sickness, like the the British 429 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,120 champs. And he has to get selected onto 430 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,200 the team on their their subject, like, you know, top 2GO. 431 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:44,520 And then plus there's a subjective spot like it's it's 432 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,640 it wasn't like a straightforward path for him to make the final. 433 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200 And also like with his history over the last three years, not a 434 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,920 guarantee for him to be healthy in the final and to watch him 435 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,720 take the lead like he did in 2019 with 200 to go and to come 436 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,560 out with a medal. Cool as hell. 437 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,760 Love that dude. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a crazy 438 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,480 sort of like he he went from barely making it onto the team 439 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,000 to now just ending up as a as a silver medalist. 440 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,480 It's so such a such a great story overall and and all the 441 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,160 hiccups along the way just within this season itself. 442 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,560 I mean, when we we saw him at the pre classic, like he knew 443 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,600 that he was on the edge of something special. 444 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,320 It just like hadn't lined up. And so today it was right there. 445 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,400 Yeah. It's weird because we, we talked 446 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,720 to him over the last couple years, Chris and, and he almost 447 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,760 felt like everyone was like leaving him behind. 448 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,840 Yeah, yeah, because they're running faster than his his PBS. 449 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,440 And he's like, well, I won here a couple years ago and like, no 450 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,400 one talks about me anymore. It's like it's just Jacob. 451 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,600 It's just Cole. It's just Josh. 452 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,920 He's like. It's a sport. 453 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,360 Yeah, it it's a sport and it was crazy. 454 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,240 It's very racist. Guess, guess. 455 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,640 What? I mean, he wasn't even in it. 456 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Yeah, it's, it's, it's not like, oh, he was hurt. 457 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Yeah, he couldn't be in it. He was he couldn't have been in 458 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,880 it. Like he wasn't in it. 459 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,160 Yeah. I mean, it's it's you wouldn't 460 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:12,160 be talking about this final and being like, oh man, like I, you 461 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,440 know who would have done well in that? 462 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,480 Member. Member. 463 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,320 Member, J. Member J, but. 464 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,040 Yeah, well, that's the other thing in our YouTube chat right 465 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,520 now is like, Cole Hawker would have won this. 466 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,400 Yes, exactly. But we're not talking about it, 467 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,360 right? And next. 468 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:25,840 And whenever these these championship races come up and 469 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,000 they're like, man, I feel like they forgot about me. 470 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,280 You know, a couple years ago I said, yeah, because you weren't 471 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,200 in the final. Yeah. 472 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,160 But what's crazy, Eric, is like, sure, as an athlete, and you 473 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,560 could speak to this better than I can, is like, your mind, your 474 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,120 mind as an athlete doesn't work that way. 475 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,720 Us as fans, it's like, Oh yeah, who's running? 476 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,200 Well, right. But as an like, put yourself in 477 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,560 Jake's shoes. Yes, you're hungry. 478 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,480 You're not thinking like, oh, I just haven't like. 479 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,280 You're not thinking like I should be forgotten. 480 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:56,720 You're thinking like like earmuffs like fuck these guys on 481 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,600 one of them. We already. 482 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,440 We got some complaints about your cursing Mac, but. 483 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,840 Recently I haven't even been on the microphone. 484 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Don't even me, you didn't. I think you did drop an F bomb 485 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,120 before so. Well, I said yeah, I like 486 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,480 warning. You know what? 487 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,680 more than I? It was like, wait a minute. 488 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,840 It's me. I was Oh wait it. 489 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,080 Makes good of being us. Yeah, I would be hot. 490 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,600 I would be surprised if it was Mac and if we haven't got one 491 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760 because that would be insane. I definitely dropped one the 492 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,320 other day. In fact, I saw the clip. 493 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,240 I was swearing. Yeah, adults here. 494 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,120 This is how adults. Yeah, yeah, and she's Sarah. 495 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:31,880 Don't come to Australia anytime soon. 496 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,960 Not right now, yeah, So. It's put your big boy pants on. 497 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,560 OK. Speak to Max Point. 498 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:45,120 Yeah, it does take an incredible type of person and mindset to 499 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,320 get to battle back from where Jake's been. 500 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,520 And you know, you beat Jacobin was Eugene, right? 501 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,840 You beat Jacobin, Eugene, world champion. 502 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,720 And now every ever since then, you're you're you've been 503 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,360 riddled with injuries. You've had such a hard Rd. back. 504 00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,480 You had to. And you're not just leaving your 505 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,520 coach, right. Your coach is your dad. 506 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,800 Think about that. Yeah. 507 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,760 Like we've all broken up with a coach. 508 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,160 I have never broken up with my dad, who It's a tough. 509 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,480 It's a tough thing. Yeah. 510 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,640 And I can't I can't even really put myself in that position. 511 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,280 And to come back and he barely like he didn't, he didn't, he 512 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,320 didn't really lose. He got. 513 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,400 Yeah. He didn't he did not lose this 514 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,160 race. He got he it took a it took a 515 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:36,680 big effort by Nader to beat him. And so I'm sure that Jake right 516 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:42,000 now is like, like, I was so close to having to being a 517 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,120 double world champion in the 15, which is a position. 518 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:49,880 First off, people, people, nobody is ever a a 1500 meter 519 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,600 champion. There's like, it's so rare. 520 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,880 And then to almost be a double champion is, is something truly 521 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480 special that nobody, I mean, was there anybody in? 522 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,440 Maybe it was Tim, maybe Timothy. He's like, he's like, I feel 523 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,920 you. I feel it. 524 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,400 He's like, he's like, God, you're close and you broke up 525 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,240 with your dad and blah, blah, blah. 526 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,880 But it's like, it's such an amazing like Rd. that that Jake 527 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,120 has been on. And so it is super, super 528 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:22,880 exciting to see that. But yeah, like, like Max said, 529 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,640 when when you're down and you feel like people aren't talking 530 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,440 about you because, and it's not because that everybody's 531 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,040 doubting you, it's just because that there's this is an event 532 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,160 that's so talented and there's so many amazing athletes. 533 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160 And when you're out, it is like a recency bias. 534 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,080 Like what have you done for me recently? 535 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,920 But this just shows you the type of athlete that that Jake is and 536 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,600 that to to bounce back and to bake it right back up to where 537 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,600 he was when he was a world champion. 538 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,280 It takes a different kind of athlete. 539 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,600 But I mean, Nader, it's like we're talking so much about 540 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Jake, we're talking so much about these other guys. 541 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,400 But like neither does seem to come, yeah, out of nowhere to 542 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,880 surprise everybody for for the global, the global metal. 543 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,200 In in big moments, like to like, I, I think like a lot of people 544 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,520 will probably look at this performance like well, in a 545 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,800 similar sense of like is, is this 1A fluke Like no, this 546 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,800 honestly, like very similar to last year like. 547 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,240 Non fluke at all, but yeah, right. 548 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,040 It doesn't it? Doesn't you cannot lock. 549 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Your way does not matter about like flukes with you can't say 550 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,360 if you win a gold medal in in any of these events. 551 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,960 There's no fluke, right? Like, you've won it and nobody 552 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,280 can take that away. And there there can be people 553 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,400 who can say, who will be commenting from the sidelines 554 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,960 and can say, Oh, yeah, like he got a bit lucky or he he won 555 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,440 that over when he wasn't the favorite. 556 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,120 Wasn't there? Yeah, exactly. 557 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:05,360 But it's like, look, I'm there. The record book will always have 558 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,040 my name there. And it's it's never a fluke when 559 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,320 you get to this level and when you can, it is a huge upset. 560 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,240 And that's sports and that's sports exactly right. 561 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,280 Like that's just how the game goes. 562 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,160 And that's why we this that's why it's exciting. 563 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:27,000 If it just was, if it always came down to the favorites one 564 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,280 and you could switch it up, right, Because it's like if you 565 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,600 were to, if every single person who even knew the sport were to 566 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,200 write down like what's your what's your podium you're going 567 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,920 to have. It's some sort of combination of 568 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,480 Laros and Kerr and maybe a guy like White, right, or White or 569 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,840 OX or Timothy Chariot. But there would be a very small 570 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,640 percentage that would have Nader in there. 571 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,480 And that's why this is so exciting, because you these 572 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,480 races aren't one on paper. And here we are. 573 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Nader's a world champion and a lot of these favorites go home 574 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,560 with no hardware and they're going to have to stay hungry and 575 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,760 and and show up again then the next time they have the 576 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,760 opportunity. I think Hungary's the perfect 577 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520 way to describe it because even if to the point of where we were 578 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,240 checking Eric a second ago, Nader's been to so many of these 579 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,320 and maybe he's only in his second final, But the point is 580 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680 that you see so many young guys coming through. 581 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,040 I think Laros is going to be a great example of this in time to 582 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,800 come, right? This is what he's Second World 583 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,320 champs final. He's last year, fifth this year. 584 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,320 Exactly. He's going to keep climbing and 585 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,920 I think to the point in Racency, a lot of the time in the sport, 586 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,680 it's like you want them to be good immediately and if they're 587 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,040 not, people are disappointed. It's like, well, this is speaks 588 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840 to the levels of how difficult this isn't. 589 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,960 And and to go back to Jake, like Jake got robbed of the 590 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,760 opportunity to be introduced as the world champion through 591 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,120 injuries, like he didn't get that beautiful. 592 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,440 Well, because he was injured, he was race. 593 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,040 Yeah, he did not race. So like Jake, it's his grand 594 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,760 crescendoed moment. Like the the highlight of your 595 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,120 career. You're the world champ. 596 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,240 And you know what? A lot of money attached to that 597 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,120 as well, to be the world champ in appearance fees and everybody 598 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,320 knowing who you are. And this guy's a hustle. 599 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,920 And he had to watch the whole world move on past him, right. 600 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,720 I remember talking to him last year randomly on a train and 601 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,040 they were having a conversation between like, what, what are you 602 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,280 going to do? And he's like, I'm just going to 603 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,280 keep going. I'm going to find a way to 604 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,800 pivot. And then he leaves his coach. 605 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,440 Now he comes back and such a popular guy for that exact 606 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:31,920 reason that he keeps on grinding. 607 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,840 I guarantee you, because we don't know him well enough. 608 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,360 I bet Nader has an amazing story of maybe times of wanting to 609 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,720 give up and wanting to get rid of it. 610 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,920 And if you're a 1500 meter guy out there, a kid or someone 611 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,360 who's raced or whatever, this has to fill you with like just 612 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,600 an absolute heart full of optimism that it could take me 613 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,080 three tries, four tries to get there. 614 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,200 I, I could have my day. And you can only beat who's 615 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,200 there to the point of Jacob and you know, Cole not being there. 616 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,720 They didn't make it. Well, you can't control that. 617 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,040 You beat who you beat. You're the world champ. 618 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,640 Well, the good news is that Isaac Nader is a A6 athlete and 619 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,280 so we're on the phone already working to try and get him for 620 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,240 for an interview. We're super close with Jake 621 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,320 Whitman and so will hopefully, you know, get one of those in 622 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,640 the in the coming days as well. But yeah, I feel like we're only 623 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,000 scratching the surface on trying to get to know this guy on 624 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,680 YouTube. What you can also do is you can 625 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,840 find the race of the European Team Championships that took 626 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,720 place earlier this year. Now as we look at sort of like 627 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,320 the progression of what his season look like, he ran a 628 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:43,000 couple of indoor races, opened up outdoors and won the dream 629 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,320 mile. That's like the one race that I 630 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,720 remember about this guy earlier earlier this year. 631 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000 We're biased because we're we're, we're Americans in the 632 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,280 sense that we don't pay attention to what the European 633 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,040 team championships are like. I all I remember is like seeing 634 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,000 the highlights is like that's a green track and that's cool. 635 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Like it was in it was in Madrid, Madrid. 636 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:06,320 But what we what we lost sight of here is that Isaac Nader and 637 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,080 I it it's on YouTube. You can go check this out in he 638 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:15,120 won that 1500. It's a 339 race final lap. 639 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,400 Yes, these guys just licking these lips. 640 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,679 I'm getting final, getting B for brushing off a 339 race. 641 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:31,239 Yeah, final race in a final lap. 5202 final 225.4 while also 642 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,679 celebrating early, waving at the crowd. 643 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,440 It's like this guy had a kick that I think just a lot of 644 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,199 people overlooked. Well, I mean to can I, can I get 645 00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:41,760 defensive here? Yes, those. 646 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,719 A lot of people can do that. Yeah, I mean, he would have had 647 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,199 his hands full in the NCAA. He. 648 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,440 Would have got worked in the NCAA, yeah. 649 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,520 Yeah, he in that if you're telling me those splits, yeah, 650 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,760 that that that's they're. Like Gary, Martin could have 651 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,679 beat Isaac. Nader I don't know if Gary 652 00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:01,240 Martin has a 52 run. But also, Gary, Gary Martin 653 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,320 would never be celebrating with 200 to go. 654 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,360 But like, I mean, to that point, like that's not necessarily 655 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,760 impressive doing I I don't know what the conditions were all 656 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,960 that like obviously he won, but like running a 339 race, running 657 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,560 a 52 last second, like I sucked, he beat. 658 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Stefan Nielsen there. The splits don't matter, right? 659 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,560 Like in a situation like that where you're like, Oh yeah. 660 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,400 Like he ran, he closed at 339 and 52 with it's like we're 661 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,800 talking about a guy right now that is the world champion. 662 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,160 It's just about winning these races. 663 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,600 Of course, like splits are fun in like this certain way, but 664 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,680 they don't like most of the world isn't like doesn't like 665 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,840 care about if you closed 25 point. 666 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,000 It's like, did you win the did you win? 667 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,480 What type of race have you won? And now Nader is a world champ 668 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,960 and it is. Now it's it. 669 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,240 But now it's make. OK, what's next? 670 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,240 You're going to back that up. You're going to do something. 671 00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,000 You're going to. And and I guess what I'm also 672 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,520 curious with is now is like him on the circuit, if he can stay 673 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,560 at this level, if he's got what sucks is the diamond leagues are 674 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680 just they're just paced to run world records. 675 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,560 Every other weekend. Yeah, it's like someone like him 676 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,760 that that maybe 6 is succeeds at these slower races. 677 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,240 It's just going to be a non factor in these 327 through 28 678 00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:27,040 races, yeah. Yeah, it's. 679 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,560 It's it's something I'm not going to. 680 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,280 Yeah, I'm sure I'll liken it to someone like Matthew Centroid. 681 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Who? Who say that? 682 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,160 Bad at diamond leagues because they were just paced too quickly 683 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,800 for him. Yeah, like but. 684 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,040 But but was very good to race exactly. 685 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,640 Exactly who who cares about the Diamond League races when you've 686 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,720 got like the global hardware that a dude like Sandra has. 687 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,760 But I, I do think Josh going down, not going down, but he 688 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:57,200 pulls up from this race. I'm, I, I do think that a lot of 689 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,720 these competitors probably thought that Josh was somebody 690 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,000 to key off of like Josh from the. 691 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,640 Beginning, he was in the back. Exactly. 692 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,320 So, so well, Josh, Josh said. You know, Jacob's on the race. 693 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,360 I'll do the Jacob off the line and go right to the back and 694 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,880 then and then he got off too slow in his calf. 695 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,240 He's trained his calf right, not enough blood flow in his calf 696 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:20,440 because they they held them at the line probably for an hour 697 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,200 and a 15 minutes. I finally got a chance to like 698 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,440 because I've been in. Yes. 699 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,360 No. Now that you've been in the 700 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,960 stands and you see what we're talking about, My God, My God. 701 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,800 They're not afraid to hold these guys. 702 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:33,640 Yeah. So he had no blood flow in the 703 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,680 calf. They got off the line. 704 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,720 He was right to the back, and they strained his calf. 705 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,280 So, so yeah, now you now you know, we're talking about, but I 706 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,800 just think that Josh usually in this type of setting right where 707 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Jakob, this is like the first global 15 in a very long time 708 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240 where Jakob's not in. And he is the guy that usually 709 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,720 goes to the front, dictates how the race goes. 710 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,480 If it's fast, it's slow. And now that he's out of it, I 711 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,440 would have thought, and I'm sure a lot of these guys thought, OK, 712 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,760 Josh is the guy that he might not make it a fast race, but he 713 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,080 will be in the front and he will will be, he might not, he's not 714 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,520 going to make it a Jakob style fast race, but he will be kind 715 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:17,280 of choosing how it's run. And that a lot of people key off 716 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,320 that because it's you got Laros who's the kicker. 717 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,400 So he's not going to be, he's not going to be pushing it, but 718 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,480 he's going to be kicking and dictating his race off Josh. 719 00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:31,080 As soon as Josh goes down, people are like, well, yeah, 720 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,240 where do we go? Where do we go? 721 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,520 Like who who is going to be the one to step up? 722 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120 And all of a sudden, like Larros found himself in the front, and 723 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,760 that is a pretty foreign thing for him. 724 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,840 And so then you got Timmy. Timmy C goes. 725 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,040 I'll help you out bud. He's always the British. 726 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160 Now you're feeling lonely up there, awkward. 727 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,080 I'll help you out. So I, I just think that John, 728 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:57,520 like without Kerr in the race, it did change how people were 729 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,600 the mindset of, of the, the, the competition. 730 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,240 Is it just, like, not funny? It is to me at least, that like 731 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,360 this sort of stuff transcends all level of sports. 732 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,560 Like you could go to your duel meet in high school against like 733 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,960 a bunch of kids, like kids that are running like 445 minute 734 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,760 miles and it's like they'll key off of the fastest person no 735 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,600 matter what. The same thing happens at this 736 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,520 level. Like there, there, there's 737 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,880 athletes that like Josh in this final without a yoke, without a 738 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,240 coal that the rest of the field, they're going, they're going to 739 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,400 like, I'm going to defer to them because I know what they're 740 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,600 likely to do. And you're gauging your race off 741 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,400 of what you think that someone else is going to do. 742 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,400 That happens at this level with everybody. 743 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,440 Yeah. And so as soon as like, to 744 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:49,960 Eric's point, as soon as someone like Josh, who was the the, the 745 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,280 big dog in this race, that is, is an odd factor. 746 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:55,760 You're immediately going, oh, shit. 747 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,600 Like what's Plan B, what's plan C? 748 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,160 And then you're you're actively trying to gauge off of what's 749 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,760 happening in real time instead of like. 750 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,760 Oh my gosh, what was what were my plans? 751 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,720 Yeah, I, I, you know what? I reckon someone who wasn't king 752 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:11,720 of Josh would have been Jake, but I think he would have been a 753 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,800 guy that was very. He's been there. 754 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,360 Exactly. He would have been very 755 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,280 unconcerned with the movements of Josh Kerr and to the point he 756 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,800 just sat on that shoulder for so long, Jake and he and he would 757 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,040 have just been so happy and content with whoever it was out 758 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:26,840 in front. He didn't care. 759 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,880 He always I I would imagine he always had 250. 760 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,200 I'm out of here. I don't care who shot Timmy 761 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,240 shoulder, Joshua shoulder, Laris shoulder, whoever it is that's 762 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,200 leading. I'm out of here. 763 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,440 It's I'm just thinking on the flight like this, this kind of 764 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,040 victory for nada is giving me real shades of Jimmy Gresiak a 765 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,520 couple of days ago in terms of when you talk about time moving 766 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,960 forward, are you going to worry about this guy when the races 767 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,400 get fast? You know, usually a world 768 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,040 beater, all that sort of stuff. And I'm going to just double 769 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,560 down to my point as what you guys have already said about 770 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,640 diamond legs and all this sort of shit. 771 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,120 It's all, it is all fugazi at the end of the day, running 772 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,200 fast. It is. 773 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:04,960 It's all, it's all great on paper. 774 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,320 And it's like you're faster than him. 775 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,200 That's great. That's great. 776 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,360 Every single guy who is faster than Nader or Jimmy Greasier 777 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480 would trade every single time to be the world. 778 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,080 Champ, let's like, think about like. 779 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600 Everything you would trade to be a world better than than world 780 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,960 beaters. Think about like, like I'm king 781 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,920 up for what you're you're saying the the the winners of this 782 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,280 championship. Nader Yeah. 783 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,480 Jimmy Gressier, George Beamish. Yeah, it's just upset after 784 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,720 upset after upset in these distance races and like that it 785 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,400 can't just be random. So. 786 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,200 That that that begs the question is like we're halfway through 787 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,680 the this World Championships. Like there's still time for, you 788 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,160 know, the plot to really change in the second-half, Although 789 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,640 like things are trending across the board in the same direction 790 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,880 with the world championship shifting to the end of the 791 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,840 season, in many cases, it will be in September. 792 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,600 Like is this the new norm where that is going to force people to 793 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,280 change how they structure their season where it's like, all 794 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,200 right, maybe like I started started off a little bit later. 795 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,080 But in addition to that, like how these World Championships 796 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,240 are going to be remembered. Like this could be the beginning 797 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,120 of like, all right, that was our sign to the for all these heavy 798 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,040 favourites to start to change, you know, how they approach the 799 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,880 season or like, are we going to remember this as like the world 800 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,400 championship of upsets? I'm going to only play 1 slight 801 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,560 devil's advocate and that the women's side of things has gone 802 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,000 the way that we expected it to go. 803 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,320 But part of that is just because, like, some of those 804 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,920 athletes are just the generational talents like a like 805 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,440 Faith Chirotis and Winfred Yavi. Like, it could have gone either 806 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,760 way. Like, those were two very 807 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,640 expected contenders. Like Faith could be a gone. 808 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,760 It was a very expected winner. Yeah, but I would argue that 809 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,800 king. Hodgkinson loses and then sure, 810 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,200 yeah, maybe. I would argue that I always 811 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,560 forget how to say his name is Steepler, the Moroccan Steepler. 812 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,560 That is it. Elva Kylie. 813 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,280 Elva Kylie is like arguably the like one of the greatest steeple 814 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,120 chasers of all time, Right? So that's someone that you 815 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,640 predicted was going to get it in the 1500. 816 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:18,520 To everyone's point, there is no way in hell at the start of the 817 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,720 1500 meter rounds, you're like, Oh yeah, Jake Whiteman, Nader 818 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:24,000 and Chariot, of course. Like I know Cole Hawker and 819 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,000 Jakob are in the field. You would. 820 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,560 Have been like this. These guys with witch. 821 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,880 Chariot. Yeah, like the Cole Hawker is 822 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,040 the Olympic champion and tactically one of the of the 823 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,840 smartest guys in the world. Now, no one knew what Jakob Inga 824 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,160 Britson was going to bring. That's a generational talent. 825 00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,720 But obviously he's been injured, so I suppose that one goes to 826 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:41,200 the wayside. My point being that. 827 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000 The man, Nader. Yeah, the the man. 828 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,440 Has Nader the. Guy who ran for the Green Party 829 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,440 for the president. Yeah, Ralph Nader. 830 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,000 Yeah. Jeez, this guy tells it. 831 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,240 What careers does this guy have? Yeah, go down as upsets, but the 832 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,440 women continually. They're a little bit more. 833 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,560 Tonight in the Staples, another example. 834 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,080 But you know, the women are, they've clocked it all the all 835 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,280 the goats of their events, they've clocked it somehow and 836 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,000 they've they've managed to dominate, but. 837 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,280 Yeah, it's just, but I think like they're just so far the the 838 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,760 people at the top end of that are just like so far ahead of 839 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:17,800 everyone else. But I. 840 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,560 Albert Kali is was like if you would have put odds on him it'd 841 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,680 be $1.00 O one that Albert Kali would win that. 842 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,080 Yeah, 3000 but so like, but Chris's question is that like, 843 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,600 are these guys or like are athletes going to take into 844 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,600 account the the what the timing of the year and. 845 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,960 Beijing in 2027 is going to be in September. 846 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,280 So it's going to be around the same time. 847 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,880 Yeah. Then yes, absolutely there will 848 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,400 be coach. Not only will the athlete, yes, 849 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,920 the athletes will be taking into account how they're feeling this 850 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,240 year, how much they've raced grants. 851 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,080 Like, we've seen a lot people. And not only have we seen a lot, 852 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,240 but people have been talking a lot about how great the people 853 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,280 who have run the Grand Slam and race Grand Slam. 854 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,000 But that was getting people regulating that. 855 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,640 Yes, they thought I'd be getting ready, but a lot of people feel 856 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,240 like the Grand Slam took a lot out of them for sure. 857 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:10,320 And that they're just they're because it, it is tiring. 858 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,400 And so yes, these athletes, every athlete is very calculated 859 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,280 and you, you, they will be taking into account how they're 860 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,080 feeling and they will make the adjustments for next year, but 861 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,280 not only they will, the coaches will be. 862 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,280 And so guys, if they raced well, they'll be trying to emulate how 863 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,040 they did that. And if, if, if, if it's 864 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,440 something that they can reproduce next year and the 865 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,400 others will be making adjustments, but 100%. 866 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,120 When's the ultimate? Next year is that. 867 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:42,600 September September 11th to 13th in Budapest. 868 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,240 That'll be hot, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, people are 869 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,080 going to have to adapt and change to this new model, I mean 870 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,680 it all. And now I guess like in the 871 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,160 coming days, we'll find out like where 2029 and 2031 will be 872 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,200 held, like Kenya, London, like all these places are up for the 873 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,080 running and like it'll. Be hard in Kenya. 874 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:05,160 And altitude, it'll be high. I'm like Timothy Carey. 875 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,080 It's like I can. Hold on. 876 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,040 Yeah, I got a couple more years of me. 877 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,040 Yeah, he's. Like 2029, what's Timothy going 878 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:18,000 to be at that at that point? But yeah, something like that. 879 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,920 Yeah. So, yeah, I mean it's we'll see 880 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,760 and it's it's another question I guess we'll ask at the very end 881 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,120 of of these world championship is how do we think that the 882 00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:30,880 these ten days in Tokyo are going to be in remembered like 883 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,080 going forward? So because right now everyone's 884 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,600 looking at this like this is a weird World Championships filled 885 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,200 with upsets, but it comes as a consequence of so many 886 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,440 different. Things, yeah. 887 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:58,960 No, it does. We broke because Mac chose to go 888 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,560 to the bathroom in the middle of this, did not close the door. 889 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:08,600 We heard sounds that should not be coming from a person's body. 890 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,520 Cute. Oh shit. 891 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,040 Oh, this is. Oh good. 892 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,280 This is this is where people are like, oh, look, look at Sidious. 893 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,840 They're laughing at fart jokes. Yeah. 894 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:24,640 It wasn't even a fart joke, it was a fart so spectacular I'm 895 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:32,560 sure the mic caught it. Oh my God, so so nuts. 896 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,960 Fucking fart man, it was crazy. Anyway. 897 00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,040 Oh my God, We're like, I'm like, Chris said. 898 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,640 We're trying to like, so serious, like they're gay. 899 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,400 And then like, like from like, you know? 900 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:58,840 Like, yeah, yeah. They broke my focus. 901 00:47:58,840 --> 00:47:59,640 Yeah, I. Know, I know. 902 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,280 I'm like, yeah, no, we're not, we're not making for TV. 903 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:09,600 But like Mick, Mick looked the other room like holy shit, holy 904 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,840 cow. Yeah, Mick, Mick off off camera. 905 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,800 Mitch is like, he goes, you check on him, he's like, I'll 906 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,160 go, I'll go anyway. Anyway, open mouth. 907 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,440 Mac is Mac is back and he's OK. Fucking he's. 908 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:31,440 He's been relieved of what's been stressing him. 909 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,080 Probably for a bit. All right, amazing. 910 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,640 We covered the men's 15 for an hour. 911 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,480 All right, it's been an hour. It's an hour of the men's 15. 912 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:48,040 What did you expect? Let's move on over to the 913 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,440 women's steeplechase final, the other distance final on the 914 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,320 track today. And as I kind of mentioned 915 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,280 before, Bates Rotich, Winfred Yavi, that's what was going to 916 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:04,040 be the duel ended up happening. Bates Rotich breaks Winfred Yavi 917 00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,200 on the final water barrier, A decisive move. 918 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,560 Trotich wins in 851-A championship record. 919 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,840 I that's kind of like the time that I expected coming into this 920 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,920 because those two. You saw 851? 921 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,800 Yeah, well, I mean. Yeah, no, it because Diamond 922 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,720 League final has been fast. So many of these Diamond League 923 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,680 like races where they've gone up head to head against each other 924 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,280 like they've been quick. And so something in that range 925 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,120 is, is what I expected. I guess. 926 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:40,920 Like, the only surprise for me was Sembo Alamweyu from Ethiopia 927 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,320 Notch in a PB of 858 for for 3rd place. 928 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:52,760 I honestly thought that it would be who did I have in there? 929 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,360 No, it was that Lemingle. It would be a Parrot Shimutai. 930 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,560 But I'm not even seeing her in the results because I bet, I 931 00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:59,840 bet. I think she was the one who went 932 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:00,800 down hard. Yeah. 933 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,720 Yeah. So parrot Shimutai with a very 934 00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:08,560 scary hard fall. And so she falls like. 935 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,160 Was it the water? No, it was after one of the 936 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,080 barriers on the backstretch. Here they go after a barrier. 937 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:19,880 Yeah, it's like the amount of falls. 938 00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,400 There's a tough. Flat. 939 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,960 Yeah, I mean, I'm thinking about. 940 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,600 What's a Garma? Garma was it was last year, 941 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,440 right? I mean, geez, the like the 942 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,240 steeples, the most dangerous event in it's like a CTE type of 943 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:38,840 football race. Yeah, I mean like it it I'm like 944 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,400 I'm I was thinking about Germa last year and. 945 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,280 That was a scary. That was really scary. 946 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,680 That was, I mean, he was knocked out. 947 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,400 Cole, he was on the track. He was gone. 948 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:47,800 He was gone. He was gone so. 949 00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,120 This, the steeple is just, I mean, when are you going to see 950 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,480 that type of? You're not going to see that on 951 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,400 another event in the track. No, no. 952 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,240 Yeah. So in general, this this one ton 953 00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:09,680 of to me went as expected, where it was like the faith Roach, 954 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,160 Winfred, the obvious, like just broke broke away. 955 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:19,040 It was the whole lead pack aside from guess the Krauss were East 956 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,720 African or like born in East Africa before running for for 957 00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:25,080 other countries. And then the second-half you had 958 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,520 guess the Krauss leading Leah Meyer was up there in the in the 959 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,400 front for a little bit. The the pack of Americans stayed 960 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,440 strong all throughout running together top American on the day 961 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:42,320 Angelina Napoleon from NC State who will be going back to the 962 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,640 States and running cross country this season, I would. 963 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,800 Say she's she's missing cross country camp right now, Yeah, 964 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,120 which is wild to think about because she started her year. 965 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:51,680 I think. I believe she's a sophomore. 966 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,760 We are talking. Now I think rising junior, 967 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,760 probably. But we were talking to her, 968 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,160 Chris, like just a couple years ago. 969 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,200 New bounce, Sasha. New bounce nationals. 970 00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:01,640 And she was like, yeah, I kind of like the 400 hurdles or the 971 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,920 steeple. I could also do the 200 or the 972 00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,840 two mile. Like it's like an all around 973 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,480 athlete. And she's just had a, she's just 974 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,320 had a wild year and. Yeah, I'm leaving. 975 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,240 Better and better and better every single time out. 976 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:20,080 And, and for her to come out as a top American in an event that 977 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,240 that the US is, is generally pretty strong and that is just 978 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:25,040 like crazy promising for her future. 979 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,680 Along with some of the other Americans. 980 00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:30,240 Their first national team, they all made the final. 981 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,120 And yeah, like the, I guess like the, the, the big, I don't know, 982 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,960 it's not a question. But like this is one of those 983 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,920 events where the the top grouping is just so far ahead of 984 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,880 everybody else. And it's not just the Americans. 985 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,680 Like we're looking at people that have over 3000 meters have 986 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:52,400 like a 22nd plus, like personal best better than most of the 987 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,080 rest of the world. So yeah, like Chris was saying 988 00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,480 like, yeah, this is kind of how he thought it was gonna go. 989 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,360 It's like, yeah, because over 3000 meters, a 22nd difference 990 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,320 is just it's, it's a different event. 991 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,040 Yeah, the top American was 26 seconds back of of the win. 992 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,520 A little less than that, you know, from from the metals Like 993 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,280 it's it's one of those events where right now, like we're in 994 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,520 the developmental phase, I think. 995 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,400 But it we have seen them go faster than they did today. 996 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,840 Again, tough conditions. Yeah, I leave these, I leave 997 00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:33,280 these World Championships like a fan of Angelina Napoleon because 998 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,320 of just like the potential that's that's ahead. 999 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:37,840 Yeah, yeah. I would say there's waves, 1000 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:38,600 right? There's. 1001 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,600 Even like I I think the Americans like it's their first 1002 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,840 national team, like crazy conditions. 1003 00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,480 It is for crazy conditions for every single athlete on the 1004 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,600 start line here. But yeah, like as we make the 1005 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,440 push towards Lai think that like the the women's steeple team is 1006 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,720 going to be like just crazy competition making it. 1007 00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,520 Sorry, Eric. Oh, no, I'm just thinking about 1008 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,200 like when you would have Courtney Freyricks and Emma 1009 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,760 Coburn. Yeah, we were spoiled. 1010 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,720 We're yeah, it's so it's like it's just waves, right? 1011 00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:09,200 And this is an event that's unbelievably talented, 851 1012 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,360 championship record. It's going to be very tough to 1013 00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:19,800 for a USA squad that they're all very new to the scene to compete 1014 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,320 with the fastest in history on a championship scene. 1015 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:28,920 It's just it's it's very hard. But you wouldn't say that the 1016 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,280 that this group of athletes wouldn't be much higher towards 1017 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,680 the top. And you know, a few years to 1018 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,920 come. It's it's takes time, right? 1019 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,960 Like you're not going to hit a home run. 1020 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,800 You're first at bat. So this the the, the steeple, 1021 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,920 the women's steeple actually way more than the men's steeple is 1022 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,000 just fast. And it's like the men's steeple 1023 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,920 isn't all isn't I was, it's not even usually fast. 1024 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,960 The women's steeple is always fast and so. 1025 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,120 You have the, I mean, just with the odds of looking at this 1026 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,200 field, there's someone here who's going to be like, all 1027 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,040 right, today we're going to run under 9 minutes. 1028 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,960 It's just a matter of like, yeah, how far? 1029 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,000 Under nine, Yeah. And it's like, all right, we 1030 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,560 could bring one or two other people with me and so. 1031 00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:20,400 I mean, like, like watching this race, there was a gap. 1032 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,760 Immediately a huge. Gap like they were like right 1033 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,320 away there was, you know, here is a record setting pace and 1034 00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,440 then here is like, look up. We're not going to we're not 1035 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,280 keeping up with that pace. So the Americans worked together 1036 00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:42,600 and ran their race and it's it's it's the international scene is 1037 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,440 a learning experience. It's so much different than 1038 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:51,680 racing against other Americans. It's or it's just it's just so, 1039 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,200 so good. I mean, it's record setting good 1040 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,560 today in today's case and you just aren't going to get that in 1041 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,120 in other other races even like Diamond League. 1042 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:06,800 So, and especially with a, with some American athlete like she's 1043 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,280 going back to cross country, she's going to cross country 1044 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:15,520 preseason, she's late. Think about like even for to to 1045 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,160 add on to what you're saying, Eric, like how different this is 1046 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,840 versus Diamond Lakes. Think about Doris Lemingle who 1047 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:27,480 in lives on in that absolute downpour was leading by like 1048 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,920 1520 seconds compared to the rest of the field that she ended 1049 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,760 up running like 9-10 ish strong in. 1050 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,720 The monster but. She she crushed the rest of the 1051 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,920 field and that was that was her Diamond League debut. 1052 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040 And so like her first, that's not her first international 1053 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,920 experience, but that was her first Diamond League experience 1054 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,560 was like, oh, I'm killing this field. 1055 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,640 And that's like, that's the cream of the crop of the world 1056 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,840 for like that league. And then she cut, and then, and 1057 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,680 then she shows up to world champs and then she's buried. 1058 00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,080 5th yeah. 5th I mean, Chirotichunyavi, we're not, 1059 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,360 yeah. But I mean, she's, she's still 1060 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,200 like 12 seconds behind, you know? 1061 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,600 Yeah, yeah. Which in a three in which in 1062 00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,000 3000? 3000A meter, 12 seconds is a lot 1063 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,200 of yeah, yeah. I mean, you could say buried, 1064 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:13,400 yeah. I mean, it's not buried in the 1065 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,920 results in terms of like 5th isn't buried but 12 seconds is 1066 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,920 buried. Buried it. 1067 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,280 Buried compared to winning a Diamond League just weeks prior. 1068 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,800 Yeah, by. Yeah, so like a. 1069 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,960 Whopping margin, yeah, Yeah. Absolutely. 1070 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,840 Yeah, well, the conditions played a major factor there. 1071 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,360 But everyone was running in the rain. 1072 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,960 It's same thing here, Everyone but not. 1073 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,360 Everyone showed up because Chirotis and Yavi were not 1074 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,600 there. True. 1075 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,160 All right. So I think like when at USASI 1076 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,320 said something about like what would be good for this team 1077 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,000 making the final and then making the finishing better than last 1078 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,920 year's squad. Last year at the Paris Olympics, 1079 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,960 it was Courtney Whitman in 12th and Valconstein in 15th, and 1080 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:04,720 then today it was Angelina Napoleon 9th and Kaylee Mitchell 1081 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,880 10. So they better that mark. 1082 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,320 And then in 14th was Lexi Holiday Lowry. 1083 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:14,800 Rough day for her. So yeah, that was the women's 1084 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:20,760 3000 meter steeplechase. And now I think we'll. 1085 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,960 Wow, perfect timing. Yeah. 1086 00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,560 Should we just get Anderson like you want to? 1087 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:25,280 Interesting. Come on in and. 1088 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,440 You want to RIP through these, these two hundreds and. 1089 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,600 Yeah, we're going to RIP through some 2 hundreds. 1090 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,720 And actually, Eric, stay on per SEC, we're going to touch on the 1091 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,160 men's 400 meter hurdles. Yeah, Yeah. 1092 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,120 All right, totally for Mitch. Thank you so much. 1093 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,480 Thank you. All right, I'll. 1094 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,600 Hop on, see you bud. Women's 200 heats. 1095 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560 No surprises, No surprises through the women's 200 heats. 1096 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,320 You had all all the Americans slid through. 1097 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,160 You had a Navy battle. The first fastest time of the 1098 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,360 day, fastest time of. The day that was her, that's 1099 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,800 actually the second fastest time of her entire career. 1100 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,920 So she's clearly in like great form. 1101 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,360 She the last time she made a team was the Tokyo Olympic 1102 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,120 Games, So literally at this track. 1103 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:10,560 So she's looking good. I'll just go through the 1104 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,280 Americans real quick. I mean, Brittany Brown also won 1105 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,200 her heat. She looked very comfortable. 1106 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,280 She was, you know, famously chasing the the Diamond League 1107 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,120 wild card. But then when Gabby pulled out, 1108 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,080 you know, she was eventually safe, but she looked very, very 1109 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,760 comfortable, felt very good. McKenzie Long also qualified 1110 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,840 through. So she was the product of Gabby 1111 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,080 actually, you know, pulling out and she was able to get a spot 1112 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,600 here. Strong replacement. 1113 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,480 I mean, good, like, good. You talking about an Olympic 1114 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,480 finalist? And I spoke to her afterwards 1115 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,760 and she was saying like, so she posted on Instagram and she was. 1116 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,320 Going to take a break. She was going to take a break. 1117 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,640 She was like mentally exhausted and like, was ready to like, 1118 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,280 like everything was, you know, ready to end things off. 1119 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,400 But like a day later, she got a call from her agent and is like, 1120 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,480 hey, you, you're running the 200. 1121 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000 And so she jumped in like you can't take. 1122 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,920 That and pass on that, yeah. Yeah, so because he's through 1123 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,400 and I and then Melissa Jefferson wouldn't of course she is 1124 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,400 through very comfortably. And then you know, shout out to 1125 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,960 Sharika Jackson. She of course has had an up and 1126 01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:11,720 down season. We saw her in the 100. 1127 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,120 She eventually got 4th place there. 1128 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,160 I think she's she looked very comfortable and she's someone 1129 01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,440 who we should definitely look out for when, when it comes to 1130 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,560 200 when we're talking about the final so. 1131 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:26,120 That was the women's 200 heats. Yeah, literally no one of no, no 1132 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,280 one eliminated. Men's 200 heats, same similar 1133 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,320 thing. No heavy hitters eliminated 1134 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,440 here. Yeah. 1135 01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,960 This is pretty smooth, impressive performance is Brian 1136 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,720 Lavelle of Jamaica running 1984 shutting it down even you were 1137 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,920 in the stands real like he's looking good. 1138 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,960 He looks fantastic. Yeah, I mean to. 1139 01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,960 Was that the fastest time of the men's 200? 1140 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,640 Oh, by far. Like no, I mean. 1141 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,520 He cut it way down, yeah. It was like. 1142 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,440 OT it was it was so impressive that I said two critical. 1143 01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,040 Is that obliques Bill? Yeah, yeah, he was. 1144 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,640 No. Well, he's going to be a world 1145 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,120 champ, it looks like. Possibly. 1146 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,000 It's a different Jamaican would. Be would be crazy for Jamaica. 1147 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,080 To, I mean, just looks. I mean, she shut it down. 1148 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,080 It was kind of like reminisce of Sydney in the 400. 1149 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,760 It's like they ran so fast shutting it down. 1150 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,080 Yeah. I was like, it was very, very 1151 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:23,480 impressive. Just hand him the gold medal 1152 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,040 now. No that. 1153 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,280 I mean, that'd be wild. I think the one thing to think 1154 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,360 about with Brian is like, how does he manage rounds? 1155 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:33,360 Because 19-8 in a HEAT is insanely fast and like, sure, 1156 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,600 you're shutting it down, but I don't know. 1157 01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,720 We just watched Corey Patterson in the 400, right 43, and then 1158 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,560 he ends up as a time qualifier. Ran too fast. 1159 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,080 So that, that's something to to think about. 1160 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:48,120 And he's he was at the Olympics last year, but he only made it 1161 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,320 to the the revisage rounds and into the semis. 1162 01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,320 But so that's something to look out for. 1163 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,040 We had all the Americans qualify through. 1164 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,560 Well, actually, I'm sorry. No, Robert Gregory didn't. 1165 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,680 He was the lone American who unfortunately didn't. 1166 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,720 His world championship debut unfortunately didn't go his way. 1167 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,720 But we did have no allows. Kenny BI saw we there was a they 1168 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,760 had an interesting interaction. Yeah. 1169 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,440 So, Eric, tell the story about what we how we found out about 1170 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,320 this are. We so I can say, yeah, OK, well, 1171 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:25,120 so me and so we're sitting, OK, we're sitting in the stands, 1172 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,200 right? And there is a guy next to us 1173 01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,160 who is wearing a inflatable shrimp head. 1174 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,440 This is a true. Story How does this get? 1175 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,840 I'm, I'm yeah, No, no, no, I'm lying because like, it's not 1176 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,640 true. No. 1177 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,480 So we're sitting in the stands. There's a guy who's wearing a A. 1178 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,760 Huge. Huge shrimp head. 1179 01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,360 Can't miss. And there's there's arguably, I 1180 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,400 would say there's maybe only one other part. 1181 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,680 There's no other people wearing shrimp heads in the stadium on 1182 01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:02,040 the shrimp head. He has his Instagram handle. 1183 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,400 And so we were like, I was like, how many followers is, you know, 1184 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,080 this guy have like and Chris pulls up his Instagram and he 1185 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:19,920 goes to his story and that the great clip of of Noah and Kenny 1186 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,800 on the stairs. Chris is showing me this. 1187 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,360 They go, wow, that's a fantastic shot you got. 1188 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:29,400 He goes, that's shrimp head, that's shrimp heads Instagram 1189 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,360 story. And then Chris just screen 1190 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,760 records it and I go, well, that's not and that's. 1191 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,320 Like are we giving him credit? That's copyright. 1192 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,360 That's that's not. It's on. 1193 01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,680 It's on the guy's Instagrams. It will say. 1194 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,120 Did you give him? Did you give him credit? 1195 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,360 His handle is on it, too. And so then I was like, I was 1196 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,680 like, Eric, let's get the people talking like, let's. 1197 01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,080 It's actually such a good clip. Yeah, and so with the it's just 1198 01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,360 Noah's going up the stairs. He waves at at the shrimp 1199 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,520 costume because like, why wouldn't you if you saw a man in 1200 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,400 a shrimp costume and then Kenny Bernard is going down the stairs 1201 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,480 and then just gives Noah like a fist bumper or high. 1202 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,440 Him up, Yeah. He just dapped him up and it's 1203 01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:15,840 like for two guys who were just like in like so much just. 1204 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,280 Drama, Drama controversy. After the US championships, I 1205 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,320 was like, all right, like. Well, so shrimp, shrimp pad. 1206 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,280 It wasn't even a shrimp costume. It was just a giant head of a 1207 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,120 shrimp. OK, but his Instagram so his I 1208 01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,000 would thought it'd be track related. 1209 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,400 His whole, his whole profile is just him and his family. 1210 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:40,400 He's got like 1000 followers. And I was like, it's an 1211 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,840 interesting move to like advertise your Instagram when 1212 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,480 it's just like, you know, your kids. 1213 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,280 And it's just, it was very funny to me. 1214 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:55,760 And then his, he's just putting out golden clips behind the 1215 01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,840 scenes track footage that Chavez is he's just ripping off and 1216 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,480 putting it on the the official city of space. 1217 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,000 Yeah. Like I, I mean, I'm going back 1218 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,240 on his page because I haven't viewed his story since. 1219 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:16,440 But I mean Kenny and Noah look kill, I mean they. 1220 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,760 Look good. Yeah, I I feel like I might be 1221 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,680 on there right. I think Kenny after they'd give 1222 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,520 the fist month like Noah even like turned around. 1223 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,520 He's like, Kenny said something. Kenny said. 1224 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,240 Kenny, I'm like, I'm like, I think I'm like, I know. 1225 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,080 I believe. No, no one was walking up. 1226 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:34,880 Kenny's walking down here. Yep. 1227 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,720 Marco, he's passing Marco. Rope, Yeah. 1228 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,080 Marco says Erics kind of shit talker huh? 1229 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,640 And then Kenny says something to Noah. 1230 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,240 But like in a just like. I mean, they adapted their good 1231 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:50,080 job. Yeah. 1232 01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:54,960 No, like it wasn't. The restive sushi or shrimp 1233 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:58,880 man's story is just like his night at the track and like Eric 1234 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,120 and I might be in the videos because we're sitting right next 1235 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:03,680 to it. Yeah, Oh my God, it's like it 1236 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,320 cuts to me asking for a picture with shrimp head. 1237 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,440 That's crazy. But. 1238 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,400 Katie Katie Moon is is on his story. 1239 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,320 But yeah, good shrimp head with some absolutely great footage, 1240 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,560 200 meter, 200 meter, behind the scenes that a lot of people are 1241 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,600 just aren't getting. The funny thing was is like I 1242 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,520 Eric says like how many followers you think he has? 1243 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:28,240 And I I say like 2000 and I was close his 1700 followers. 1244 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,480 And then we did RIP the clip and we put it up. 1245 01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:33,440 Don't say we. Don't say we. 1246 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,080 OK, Say you. Yeah. 1247 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,120 So then if you look at it now, like on our page, on our 1248 01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,320 Twitter, it's got 26,000 views. You think Shrimp man knows that 1249 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,560 his videos like going viral? People are talking about it. 1250 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,640 Did you tag him? On Twitter you didn't tag him. 1251 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,120 He doesn't even have a Twitter. Maybe he doesn't so. 1252 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,720 He has a Twitter. I'm like. 1253 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,200 Well, so I captioned it all appears to be good between Noel 1254 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,040 Lyles and Kenny Benarik. And then there's other people 1255 01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,000 just reading into the lines and be like. 1256 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,920 So but you didn't caption it with shrimp head? 1257 01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:04,600 No. No for the no, he doesn't know. 1258 01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,000 He has no idea, Yeah, no, he has no idea that he captured gold 1259 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,280 spell voucher. Yeah. 1260 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,800 People, people in the comments are kind of like they're, 1261 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,360 they're like, Nah, they say. They're not good. 1262 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,240 They seem to be OK. Yeah, Cordial. 1263 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,680 This is cordial. I'll be now we're. 1264 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,040 Is it cordial? I I mean, I don't know what the 1265 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,280 the Noah and and Kenny thing. I can't imagine it's it's that 1266 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:34,200 good after after USA's, but I mean there it's not like it's 1267 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,280 certainly not on site. No could. 1268 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,200 Have been it could have that interaction could have been a 1269 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,400 lot worse, yeah, and it would. But it if shrimp had got it and 1270 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,840 it was a lot worse, that would have been fun. 1271 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,320 Yeah. Anyway, I hope. 1272 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,800 We I hope we see Shrimp Man again. 1273 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,720 We'll get a photo. Next time we'll get a photo. 1274 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,000 Next time. All right, women's 400m hurdles. 1275 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,720 Because no surprises, no surprises, no surprises. 1276 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,800 Oh, the other thing real quick about just a 200 shout out to 1277 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,520 Gout Gout. I mean, we just lost Mitch, but 1278 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,520 this was Gout Gout's world championship. 1279 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:09,720 Debut. Yes. 1280 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,120 I mean, there's nobody who's a bigger gout gout fan than Mitch. 1281 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:19,920 Yeah, loves the guy. I I think that he's. 1282 01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,359 So dramatic in every picture. I love it. 1283 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,960 I love. It at the moment and like, I 1284 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,520 think he knows that he's got this global appeal to him. 1285 01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,399 Yeah, yeah, even though he's not proven at the global stage. 1286 01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:35,279 Like, no, I mean this. This might just be us as 1287 01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:40,120 Americans who see medalists competing regularly. 1288 01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:45,279 Yeah, all the time. It's like I haven't quite bought 1289 01:08:45,279 --> 01:08:47,359 into the hype. No, no, no, no. 1290 01:08:47,359 --> 01:08:54,359 Clips of him running against no. No, no, no, no, no, no, all 1291 01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:55,600 those. Clips of him. 1292 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:01,399 Fast. We're up against not that great 1293 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:04,040 competition and so it obviously it looks so much better. 1294 01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:07,240 Exactly. Literally his last race before 1295 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,319 World Championships was like on a grass track against high 1296 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,840 school kids. Like it's he's just had, OK. 1297 01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:14,880 It's because they're comparing him to Bolt. 1298 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,000 That's that's the thing, yeah. If if nobody had mentioned gout 1299 01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,800 gout against Bolt, it's because that, oh, when Bolt was this 1300 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,240 age, gout gout is now faster. And it's just like, as soon as 1301 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:31,040 that happens, you start the comparison start. 1302 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:35,000 But if that never happened, you'd all just be just genuine 1303 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,920 fans. The name helps. 1304 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,479 The fact that he's so dominant against low level level 1305 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,560 competition, yeah, that helps. We saw the whole thing with with 1306 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,640 Aryan too. Like Aryan faster than bolted 1307 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,240 at. When he was like 1617, yeah, 1308 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:52,560 yeah, yeah. As he was a kid. 1309 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,520 And you know, instantly those comparisons started. 1310 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,520 And so I think like with Gout Gout, he's got the name going 1311 01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,960 for him, which is, which is. Great Gout. 1312 01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:01,640 Gout. I mean gout. 1313 01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,160 You guys know the the disease. Yeah. 1314 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,160 Not good. It's like you got, I mean, it's 1315 01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,320 like catching like the Spike Lee terms of like a name, but. 1316 01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,760 Yeah, what's funny is. Usain Bolt is a is a name meant 1317 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,880 for track. What's Gout is a disease where 1318 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,440 you drink so much alcohol that you can't. 1319 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,000 You've got no sensation in your big toe. 1320 01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:27,720 Doesn't really. It's not ideal for 100m dashes. 1321 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,240 But think of this, that's actually not even how you 1322 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,360 pronounce his name. It's actually like goat goat or 1323 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:34,440 something like that. There's a different 1324 01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:37,760 pronunciation, but he chose. Well then he's got he chose to 1325 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,400 PR to absolutely hammer home it's goat. 1326 01:10:40,440 --> 01:10:43,200 Goat. It was because. 1327 01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:44,840 Now don't don't goat. Me too. 1328 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,080 It's I I'm not getting the pronunciation. 1329 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040 Right, yeah, he said. It's. 1330 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:51,920 I wish Mint was here. He would he. 1331 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,720 Would like yeah. So. 1332 01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,360 He's listening right now. He's like, he's like, he said. 1333 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,320 He's like, I'm serious. Footsteps down the hall. 1334 01:10:59,440 --> 01:11:03,000 It just starts to running as. Soon as the gout gout name sort 1335 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:06,440 of taking off, that's what ran in the Australian media. 1336 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,840 Even like there's interviews with Gaut Goud's father, who 1337 01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,600 says, like, that's not how you say, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1338 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,240 Yeah, and his father's father. So we don't know. 1339 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,400 We still even after. After everything I think Gaut 1340 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,800 Goud just said. Yet like you can call me Gout 1341 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,000 gout. Yeah, just like, call me that 1342 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,840 because he he was probably just like, it's not worth it. 1343 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,960 I gave you, Yeah, his game. I just did a whole press 1344 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,440 conference, yeah. I actually think he did like he 1345 01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:30,520 went out in like, yeah, that was the. 1346 01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,000 Other things he was like when when Gout gout, he's only ever 1347 01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,600 done one podcast appearance and it was on the the. 1348 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,200 Beyond the records with Noah and yeah, all them, yeah. 1349 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,800 They're calling him gout, gout to his face. 1350 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,800 Like I feel like he would have corrected him. 1351 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,160 Exactly. And I think they even asked 1352 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:44,160 about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1353 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,000 Where the the clip is? It was. 1354 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,480 Like that was where he finalized like, listen, call me gout, 1355 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:49,440 gout. And I'm good with it. 1356 01:11:49,440 --> 01:11:51,480 Yeah. I mean, he, I figure he's just 1357 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,240 it. It rolls off the tongue a little 1358 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,040 bit better. It's like, you know, yeah. 1359 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,480 It's but also it's like now people, a lot of people know 1360 01:11:57,480 --> 01:11:59,200 him. So it's just tough to do a hard 1361 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,800 pivot and say, no, it's actually not gal gal. 1362 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,880 We're like, well. It's the same thing with Mau 1363 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,640 Farah. Like Mau Farah, like post 1364 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,840 retirement, he's like actually like my name is like Hussein or 1365 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,400 something like that and like. Well, that's OK. 1366 01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:19,440 Well, you know, that's just OK. That's different because, you 1367 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:27,840 know, you know, well, I could have, you know, do you know what 1368 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:34,640 I mean Exactly, You know, I know exactly so. 1369 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:39,040 And that's what's a bit different with goat. 1370 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,280 Goat, which is how you should say, which is because I was how 1371 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:43,920 you was down. Goat. 1372 01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,080 Goat. No, not if he wants me to call 1373 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:46,680 him cow. Cow. 1374 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:52,000 Yeah, look, I'm learning new stuff every single second in 1375 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,720 this, in this last 20 minutes. Did you know MO's real name is 1376 01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,800 Hussein? I knew it was, but there's never 1377 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,720 a point in time where he was like, hey, look, don't call me 1378 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,680 MO. It's the real name's Hussein. 1379 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,920 Yeah. Well, all right. 1380 01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:10,280 So the expectations, yeah, the the expectations for got got, 1381 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:14,240 Yeah, I mean, huge media scrum. There's such a big. 1382 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,520 Light on him. I just don't get it and it's 1383 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,560 like. Listen, he is not. 1384 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,840 He is even in this heat, he didn't look amazing. 1385 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,760 Now, granted, he was running with Brian Lavelle, who ran 1386 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,800 19-8, but it's like, I think people are expecting him to make 1387 01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,360 the final and. Potentially. 1388 01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,640 Metal, potentially metal. It's a challenge to go in. 1389 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,080 On them. You think he'll make the final? 1390 01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:40,200 I I I I don't think so. I wouldn't be surprised if he 1391 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,600 does, but like I, I just don't you. 1392 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,680 Wouldn't bet on it. Yeah, yeah, like and even the 1393 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,040 whole thing was he went to the Monaco Diamond League and they 1394 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,800 created a separate race for him. I. 1395 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:49,960 Thought that was the dumbest thing. 1396 01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:52,640 Yeah, it was like literally AU 23 race. 1397 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,280 Just for him, just for him, he wouldn't race against. 1398 01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:00,360 Noah and Let's Seeley. Let's Seeley is under 23 like 1399 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:02,720 somebody he didn't. Run out. 1400 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:06,560 Let's see. Like you mind, I do qualify for 1401 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,360 this heat and they're like, no, no, you don't at all. 1402 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:16,040 It's kind of wild that like how much they've hyped up gout gout. 1403 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,960 And I think it's part of that is like, OK, savouring this for now 1404 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,840 because like the potential could be there for him to be the star 1405 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,360 of the, you know, 2032 Olympics. Like that's what it's that's. 1406 01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:31,640 Probably what it is, right? He's yeah, exactly. 1407 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,360 Yeah, I guess Mac just said like he's like our, he's like their 1408 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,080 Quincy Wilson. Yeah. 1409 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:42,600 Except for the fact that like I, I don't know but but the the 1410 01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,080 argument with Quincy is that Quincy proved himself against. 1411 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:50,360 Pros and not even just at USA is like he ran at Melrose at like 1412 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,920 you know, New Balance or I'm sorry, whatever the New Balance 1413 01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,400 indoor Grand Prix or whatever like he. 1414 01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:57,680 Threw himself in the in the ring against the pros, and I feel 1415 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,680 like there's just been a conservation of Gout Gout's star 1416 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,680 power. Like it's just like, OK, we have 1417 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,440 this shine on him, but like, let's not wear it off until the 1418 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:08,640 World Championships because we don't like at Monaco Diamond 1419 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,040 League, he probably could have finished third or fourth. 1420 01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:13,160 Yeah, absolutely. A little bit further distant. 1421 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,600 And then people have been like, OK, maybe our expectations for 1422 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,960 this guy aren't gonna be as high for the World Championships, but 1423 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,800 we can milk this thing until Tokyo. 1424 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,440 Yeah. And then, you know, from there 1425 01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:26,560 it's like, OK, yeah, his time will come in, you know, in the 1426 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,560 near future. It's just not now. 1427 01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,560 But let's drive them the hype around him for as long as 1428 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,520 possible. That is the only reason I could 1429 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,520 see them, you know, adding that U23 race. 1430 01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,920 Yeah, I mean, like it's rare that probably like I side with 1431 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,560 like Aaron Brown on on things occasionally. 1432 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:46,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's. 100% right on. 1433 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,000 Like just the preposterous nature of Monaco having that 1434 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,440 race that was just for him. Embarrassing, embarrassing. 1435 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,120 And now tomorrow are the semifinals. 1436 01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,320 He's going to have to race Brian Lavelle again. 1437 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:58,760 So he just raced him. He's racing. 1438 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,800 Let's see lay. He's going to be in that in that 1439 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,000 race. And you have Courtney Lindsay. 1440 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,360 So now he has a real race. And how many go through this 1441 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,720 he's. Crazy top two in each heat. 1442 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,040 So, so now you're talking about Brian Lavelle just ran 19/8. 1443 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,040 Let's Seeley. Just you know, we know what 1444 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,440 let's Seeley does the Olympic champion and Courtney Lindsay, 1445 01:16:16,440 --> 01:16:20,400 he's run 19 seven. He's run 197PBS198 this year 1446 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,080 like. Who else is in there? 1447 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,000 Is there anyone else? Who's he's just switched heats 1448 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,360 you can do. That outside of that, those are 1449 01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:29,960 the guys those. Guys, you guys heard about the 1450 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,440 800? You can switch heats. 1451 01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:34,320 Yeah, they they reshuffle. Exactly, they should reshuffle 1452 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:35,120 gout out of that. Heat. 1453 01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:39,560 I mean, they'll probably make a separate. 40 for him 2323 that. 1454 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,680 Would be fantastic. Because Latilia is like me too. 1455 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:44,760 Yeah, me too. Yeah. 1456 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,160 It's like, it's ridiculous. So yeah, I mean, if he makes a 1457 01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:49,680 final, obviously that'd be huge, but. 1458 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,400 Like we will be eating crow, Yeah. 1459 01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,960 But like, people should not be surprised. 1460 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:58,040 I'll eat the crow. I mean, shit, I've eaten crazy 1461 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,280 stuff over here. I'll eat the crow. 1462 01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:07,040 Crow, Shashimi. All right. 1463 01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,280 Anyway, OK, 200 that that's the men's 200. 1464 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,640 Women's 200 we we covered already all right of women's 1465 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,000 400. Hurdles and gold we're. 1466 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:17,600 Good. Delilah was. 1467 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,080 Yeah, because Delilah was in the. 1468 01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:21,360 Heat in the heat. I think that yeah, we're, we're 1469 01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,000 all rooting for Delilah, but it's like. 1470 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:24,720 Today. We like basically saw 1471 01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:25,920 unfortunately what's gonna happen. 1472 01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:28,840 All right, men's 400 hurdle final. 1473 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:36,760 That's the one that like already the Instagram commenters are 1474 01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,440 like, we need Eric's take on this, on what? 1475 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,040 On what? Men's 400 hurdles. 1476 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,280 All the big dogs make it through. 1477 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:47,440 Everybody makes it through and so. 1478 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:51,720 Then I get alerted to the fact that from Anderson because like 1479 01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,280 we got some interesting comments in the mix zone and I was like 1480 01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,280 what? What is it? 1481 01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:03,160 And so then he tells me that Rye was told this is like a game of 1482 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:08,120 telephone at this point, that Carson Warholm was asked about 1483 01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:12,000 Allison Dos Santos and Rye Benjamin's showdown and getting 1484 01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,800 them in the final again. And I have the clip pulled up. 1485 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:22,040 I'll play the audio because you kind of just have to hear. 1486 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:27,400 This is just a clip of of Rye's response to what happened, so 1487 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:29,440 let me see if I could pull this together. 1488 01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:43,280 Yeah. Yeah, he said that for real. 1489 01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:46,320 Yeah, well, I'm black, so we already done. 1490 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:57,400 OK, so to recap, I guess if it wasn't clear on the audio that 1491 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:01,240 came through, Carson says we'll see if it turns into a good old 1492 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,120 fashioned Dick measuring contest. 1493 01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:07,160 And then Rye responds by saying, well, I'm black, so we already 1494 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,200 know how that one goes in a Dick measuring contest. 1495 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,880 So Rye's like I've got the I got a big fucking Dick. 1496 01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,760 Alright, if you are Carson Carson with kids in the Carson. 1497 01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,040 Carson said. Carson said. 1498 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,400 If we'll see if they want to turn it into a Dick measuring 1499 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,200 contest and if they behave. Yeah, I don't get the. 1500 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,080 Last what? So what does he mean? 1501 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:34,440 What does he mean by Do they want to turn it into a Dick? 1502 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,640 So I. Guess the more interesting part 1503 01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:39,600 of this is will they behave? Yeah, that was like the one 1504 01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:40,960 piece that's. What if they don't? 1505 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,280 Well, no, I mean what does he mean by we'll see if they want 1506 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:45,480 to turn it into a Dick measuring. 1507 01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:48,320 Let's let's even take out the if they behave part. 1508 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,480 What is the? What does? 1509 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,360 Isn't, isn't. Everything is a Dick measuring 1510 01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:57,680 contest in this stuff where it's like we're just like, what does 1511 01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,760 he mean by what does he mean by it? 1512 01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:02,880 We're trying to see who could run the fastest, right? 1513 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,680 Yeah, yeah, exactly. I guess we could like try to see 1514 01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,680 who's got the biggest penis. We're trying to see if we can 1515 01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,360 get over the hurdles the fastest. 1516 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,120 I guess I'm just. What? 1517 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:16,640 Chris Robinson. Yeah, Chris Robinson. 1518 01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:18,800 Would have been a very. Interesting. 1519 01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,240 He would have been interesting. This conversation, this is what 1520 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,560 this is. Where Chris Robinson's like, he 1521 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,400 just slid up right next to to ride Benjamin. 1522 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,640 And he's like, you know, I'm black too. 1523 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,560 Come on. I think Carsten actually waited 1524 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,720 until Chris was eliminated because he. 1525 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,800 Yeah, he knew what Chris was talking. 1526 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,400 Yeah. And so he was like, all right, 1527 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:42,960 that guy's gone now. I can actually. 1528 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,640 He goes, well, I know what that guy's working with first hand, 1529 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:52,320 so like, I want no part with in that guy's penis, but I'm down 1530 01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:57,360 to at least roll the dice with the others further. 1531 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,800 So funny that Ryan said, well, I'm black, so you already know 1532 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,880 how that's going to work. Yeah, they go like the, the, the 1533 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,320 look on the faces of the interviewers when I was like, 1534 01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:12,960 well, I'm black and like. I'll be honest, I was. 1535 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,920 I was the only black guy there, and I was. 1536 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:21,920 You stab him up so hard you're you're like, Yep. 1537 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:35,600 Yeah, like I know this is First off, this is this race is so 1538 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:41,000 like the rye Benjamin Carson. I'm like we'll we'll bring in 1539 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,160 we'll bring in Allison. But it's like that was so good 1540 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,200 without even bringing up their like a battle of how big their 1541 01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,760 penises are. Was already like one of the best 1542 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:59,320 races of the meat and now it's like how big's your cock so good 1543 01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:00,880 they wouldn't really need to happen. 1544 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:04,720 Is now Allison's got to enter the mix and talk and say like 1545 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:07,880 I'm here, like look, Carson's white. 1546 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,600 I'm ready to I'm ready to let the thing dangle. 1547 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,120 I'm having something like too much fun with this. 1548 01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,200 This whole this this whole question I guess. 1549 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,360 The question now is do does everyone just split shorts? 1550 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:27,200 Oh yeah, I'm like yes, no, of course they will at some point 1551 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:33,280 need to show their penises. I mean the the comment section 1552 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,880 on this thing is is is. Just of course. 1553 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,400 I mean, of course it's so. Funny. 1554 01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:39,800 Going to be a hard race. We'll see who comes out ahead. 1555 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,560 Yeah, yeah, let's see what else people have said. 1556 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:46,160 Which one of them will rise to the occasion? 1557 01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:51,040 What else? People are saying it's good for 1558 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,160 the sport. It, it's so fun. 1559 01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,040 I mean, it's, it's, it's so funny. 1560 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,520 They're going to go balls out in the final. 1561 01:22:58,360 --> 01:22:59,840 Good on. I love rye. 1562 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,680 Just having a sense of humor about it, like it. 1563 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,360 I mean, it's all. Rye commented. 1564 01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,920 He said pause. Yeah, no, it's, it's funny. 1565 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:10,600 Like it it's they're so like like they know each other so 1566 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,000 well, braces each other all the time. 1567 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,160 I I love like just the adding a new mix to it, like having fun 1568 01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:19,680 in the in the media zone. This is what I'm like. 1569 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,640 God, I wish I was like, I wish I was in the content creator zone 1570 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,920 for this. I'm like, fuck, I would have 1571 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,840 eaten this up. No, I'm like yo-yo. 1572 01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:31,640 You would have what? What? 1573 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:40,440 Yo, hold on, yo, I would have gobbled this shit up but yeah, 1574 01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:44,240 it is so funny. So the someone said now right, 1575 01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:50,960 better win after all this. I mean, it's going to be tough. 1576 01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,520 He's also got a big ass Dick to drag around the track. 1577 01:23:55,720 --> 01:24:00,880 Carson doesn't have that. He's all in love. 1578 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,840 You drowned. All right, all right. 1579 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:05,760 OK. Well, you, you could have sent 1580 01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,720 me home to bed, Chris, but you purposely said Eric would like 1581 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:13,200 this. I knew that was coming all 1582 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:14,800 right. All right, well. 1583 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,760 I better. They're gonna tomorrow, they're 1584 01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,200 gonna. There's gonna be some reviews, 1585 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,240 Max. Max got the bad mouth. 1586 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,560 Yeah, I know. It's like Eric had very astute 1587 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:31,840 points when it comes to the the men's 400 hurdles. 1588 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:37,440 Like, yeah, totally. Like back was really rude. 1589 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,680 He said he said the F word. One he said the F word ones they 1590 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,400 insinuated Carson has smaller penis than right Benjamin. 1591 01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:50,240 Anyway, great night for track and field. 1592 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,800 Sure was. And if you want to share your 1593 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:58,560 support for Sidious and help us recover from any one star 1594 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,520 ratings that we may get as a consequence of this episode, 1595 01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:05,320 then leave us a five star review on Apple podcast and let us know 1596 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,760 who you think would win the battle of inches between Rye 1597 01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:13,680 Benjamin and Carson Mooreholm. It's going to be it's going to 1598 01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:19,480 be a tight one all right that does it Stay tuned for more from 1599 01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:23,040 all things Sidious Mag newsletters podcast. 1600 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,360 We're hitting you wall to wall coverage all throughout the week 1601 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,880 presented by ASICS group run coming up in just two days and 1602 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:34,800 then get some. I can't get any miles on on 1603 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,880 these things, but you can, Eric. Me and Matt, Ken Anderson. 1604 01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,000 Anderson's training. Anderson's putting in a lot of 1605 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:41,520 miles. Are you? 1606 01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:42,960 Running these yet? I haven't yet. 1607 01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,280 Well, he'll be there to be. That's going to be this. 1608 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,520 Group run the 19th. Yes, Yeah, that's right. 1609 01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:50,720 All right. Good night, everyone. 1610 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,280 Good morning. Wherever you are in the States 1611 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,520 and I love Reckon Field. We'll see you tomorrow.