1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,040 All right, everyone, I am here with Cameron Rodgers, now a 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,039 three time global champion, 2 world gold in the Olympic gold 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,600 last year. Cameron, you've had two days now 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:15,040 to kind of digest winning this gold here in Tokyo, digest 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,360 becoming the second best woman in history. 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,800 How are you feeling, right? Now I feel like it still feels 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,800 weird to hear that in a way. I still kind of can't believe it 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,720 and I don't think it's hit me yet and I don't know when it 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,119 will. But I think just for now, being 10 00:00:32,119 --> 00:00:36,200 able to like try and stay in the moment, like appreciate every 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,320 experience I have of, you know, receiving the medal, being on 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,960 the podium, having my family here, so different from when I 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,880 was here four years ago has just made this whole trip so special. 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,680 And I think when I go back to the competition and like taking 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,480 that throw and knowing it was going to be a good throw, but 16 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,080 not knowing it was going to be over 80 and just being able to 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,400 run into the crowd, to my coach, to my family and to my friends, 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,280 like, it was just the coolest moment. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Like, I can't imagine that night being any better than it was. 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,120 Yeah. And so yesterday you had the 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,600 medal ceremony. You got that big shiny thing 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,400 around your neck. What did what did kind of your 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,040 day look like yesterday? Like, how did you spend your 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,920 first day as a back-to-back world champion? 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,920 So First off, I got about 45 minutes of sleep that night. 26 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,360 Afterwards, I think it's just like the adrenaline and the like 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,360 caffeine in my system. And then seeing everyone is just 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,280 such like an emotional overload. And so I think for all four 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:41,280 years of like Oregon to, to Budapest, to Paris and now I 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,840 don't think I've slept the night after the competition. 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,240 I've been better at sleeping after the qualification. 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,280 But after the final, no. So 45 minutes of sleep, I woke 33 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,560 up, I got an hour long massage to flush everything out of my 34 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:59,040 body, which was very needed. I am still very sore and came 35 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:04,280 here to Nike house, had the podium and celebration in the 36 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,760 ceremony. Hearing the anthem is just like 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,280 brought me to tears immediately. And I think just being able to 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,320 spend that whole day just with my loved ones and then being 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,120 able to watch Ethan win last night was crazy. 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,000 And I got to do it with Koji, Murrow, Fushi and my coaching 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,880 mostly. Happy Ethan didn't get it out of 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,920 him. We were checking. 43 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:28,960 We were checking the whole time. That was the. 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,120 First thing I thought was like, there's no way you just passed 45 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,800 Koji in his home stadium. That would have been insane. 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,280 I think that we were just there cheering him on. 47 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,520 I have a whole video of when Ethan took that big throw and 48 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,320 our reactions to it of us just like screaming in his like VIP 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,160 suite with him. So it was so cool. 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,120 Like I think it just made that moment even more surreal and 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,000 just so special of being able to do it with one of my hammer 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,400 throwing heroes. Like I've looked up to Koji for 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,040 years now and he and MO talk back and forth a little bit. 54 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,160 He and my coach, so I think being able to see him again 55 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,680 because I met him very briefly in Tokyo, but being able to see 56 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 him and he congratulated me. I mean his daughter I met like 57 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,600 some more of his family signed his daughter's backpack. 58 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:18,960 It was like it was insane. Like I think if you had told 12 59 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,080 year old me that that would be happening it I would have been 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,520 like, no, you're lying. You know, that's not real. 61 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,640 So it was like the coolest way to both celebrate, like my win, 62 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:32,720 but also to be there, witness Ethan make history with a fellow 63 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,640 legend. Like, totally unbelievable. 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Yeah. I mean, we've obviously seen 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,200 kind of the way both of years in Ethan's careers have just 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,600 accelerated these last couple years kind of In Sync. 67 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,600 But to have at this stage, you know, that big moment, that huge 68 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,080 PB for both of you guys, it was just really special, even up in 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,040 the media tribune to watch. Thank you. 70 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,080 So now let's go back to the competition Monday night. 71 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,080 You open up really well coming off of a really good throw in 72 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,800 qualifying. And then so kind of when you hit 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:08,480 that big 178, what was it 7809 in the first round? 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,200 Like? Was there a little bit of like 75 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,360 a, an exhale like you got a good one out and then you can kind of 76 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,360 start dialing it up or? So I think going into this 77 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,240 competition, we, we being coach MO and I, I think we try to 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,680 approach every comp in the the same format in a way which is 79 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,800 start strong and build. So we, we don't believe in 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,240 safety throws. We don't believe in kind of like 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,280 approaching it in a relaxed manner. 82 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:35,200 We like to go in with like a high level of stress and 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,520 pressure and then just build upon it. 84 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,520 And so we wanted to have a big throw out of the gate and then 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,000 hitting that 78, I remember I released it and I was like, oh, 86 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,080 that felt kind of easy actually. Like that felt really good. 87 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,880 I felt very kind of like effortless and it just sort of 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,240 flew and then seeing that number pop up, it was kind of shocking 89 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,840 in a way, 'cause I was like, oh wait, that was pretty good. 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,720 And I ran over to to coach and he just said that's your time, 91 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,720 take the throw, just go for it. That was perfect. 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,000 You just need to do that. Just add a little bit extra and 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,920 just go. And so I think going into that 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,800 next round felt very much like AI don't know what how far this 95 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,280 is going to go, but I think this could be a really good throw. 96 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:22,760 And it was probably one of the most like well connected, like 97 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 most powerful feeling throws I've ever taken in my life. 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,760 And it's the furthest one ever too. 99 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,400 Like I'm not the biggest practice thrower. 100 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,120 Like I definitely throw further in competition. 101 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,120 And so I released that throw and I knew it was good. 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,800 I saw it where it landed and I I thought it would be kind of far, 103 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,040 but I couldn't really see from my angle in the cage. 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,720 And so but I was really excited. I yelled. 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,880 I was like, yeah, let's go. And then when I saw that a pop 106 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,880 up, I just absolutely like lost it. 107 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,840 I immediately collapsed because it's that barrier that you dream 108 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,840 of breaking for so long. And I think to see it pop up on 109 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:59,440 screen kind of made it more real. 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,640 But at the same time I was like, wait, that's not real. 111 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,040 Like that's like that's fake. But I, I like dropped to the 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,320 ground. I couldn't believe it. 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,360 And the first person there was Deanna Price. 114 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,600 She like came in and and hugged me. 115 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,520 And I think she actually too did and said the best thing that she 116 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,240 could. She was like, you did it, baby. 117 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,200 I'm so proud of you. You got to lock back in. 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,160 You have four more throws. Wait, but you need to hear that 119 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:26,080 too. I think like, like celebrate, be 120 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,120 happy. But the competition is not over. 121 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,840 And anyone could come in there and like take a big throw. 122 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,520 But she was super happy for me. She wrapped me in a huge hug. 123 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,200 And then Anita came up after her and she looked at me and she 124 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:43,560 said, welcome to the 80M club. And I think like, like I 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,800 remember watching her win in 2012, which was the year I 126 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,120 started throwing. And so like 12 year old me was 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 internally screaming, 26 year old me was externally screaming. 128 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:58,280 And just have that moment with her, with the GOAT, like the 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:03,600 legend in my sport, just like kind of solidified it a little 130 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,280 bit more to me. And she, I mean, she's super 131 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:08,600 nice. We we hug, we chat a little bit, 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:14,960 but it was just the moment that I think I've had in my head for 133 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,440 years, like that goal of breaking 80, but also to to do 134 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,720 it with, you know, some of the best hammer throwers of all time 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,560 there to like celebrate. And just that moment with me 136 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,800 afterwards, just it was incredible. 137 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,680 So it did. That immediately ran over to my 138 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,680 coach and he was like, yes, OK, we have four more throws, but 139 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,760 I'm so proud of you. Now go get him. 140 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,400 Yeah, I mean, for you to have, like you said, that moment with 141 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,040 Anita and then with Koji the day after, like, it's not not a bad 142 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,000 24 hours for you to turn the legend. 143 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Never throw that conversation you had with MO between rounds 1 144 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,600 and 2 when he tells you to kind of like just let one RIP. 145 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,080 Is there anything that's like, I do need to like maybe scale it 146 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,320 back a little bit so it's still a good throw? 147 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,760 Or like, how do you manage the excitement when you kind of get 148 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,840 that green light? So I think I have a bad habit of 149 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,160 getting really excited and then rushing the throw, which can 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,720 like interrupt the timing and then you kind of like it can be 151 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,360 like a little breakdown in the techniques. 152 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:20,040 So I think it was just trying to maintain that same, I guess, 153 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,680 level of energy in the throw while preserving the technique 154 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,000 in the system that we've tried to build upon for so many years. 155 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,159 And I think this year especially has really been like a big 156 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,240 development point for me and my career. 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,720 Because I feel like last year, there's so much pressure going 158 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,919 into an Olympic year. And there were so many little, 159 00:08:39,919 --> 00:08:43,440 tiny things that like little tweaks and strains and like 160 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,680 technical breakdowns of like trying to push, push, push to 161 00:08:46,680 --> 00:08:49,680 get to the games. And so we really took our time 162 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,600 in going into the season with, you know, being very recovered, 163 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,560 making sure to know when to push and when to take a step back, 164 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:59,280 taking those breaks when we need to. 165 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 And it's been not only my best season, but my healthiest 166 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,880 season. And so reflecting on that when 167 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,680 trying to go into that next throw and be excited, but still 168 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:12,880 maintain, I guess that that system that we have in place, 169 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,080 it's a delicate balance. It really is. 170 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,880 But I think it was knowing that I've done it once, I can keep 171 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,840 doing it. And I just felt so in tune with 172 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,960 my body and with the hammer and throughout the competition that 173 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,960 it was kind of just, it felt kind of like muscle memory kind 174 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,520 of automatic throughout the rest of those throws. 175 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,800 And it was just allowing myself to trust in what we've built 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,920 together and to just let the hammer go. 177 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,880 And so to have that serious be so consistent. 178 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,640 And then to end on a 79, but I've never hit a 79 either in my 179 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,920 life. Like I it was perfect. 180 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,880 And so letting go of that last throw, it was just a release of 181 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,240 all the the emotions and then just dropping, just dropping 182 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,240 into the circle and just like feeling like this is where it 183 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:58,960 happened, this is it. I did it. 184 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,640 Like job done, we did it. So that was pretty neat. 185 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Yeah, when when you're walking into that circle, like for that 186 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,880 last throw, when you know you officially have the competition 187 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,720 wrapped up, like there's not a lot of people who are going to 188 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,400 get the chance to experience a moment like that in their career 189 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,800 where the competition's over, but you still have one more 190 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,160 chance to do something big. Like, can you just describe that 191 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,800 moment a little bit, walking into that ring knowing you had a 192 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,920 Second World title locked up already? 193 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,160 I feel like it's really hard to kind of keep yourself within 194 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,160 that focused mindset. It definitely I wanted to be so 195 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,960 happy and so excited and I was, but I think just knowing that 196 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,200 for me it still felt like OK, competition mode is still on. 197 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,600 You had you got to keep it together because I still have 198 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,720 the chance to improve upon my throw to throw further, to do it 199 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,160 a little bit better. But I think going into that last 200 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,160 throw, I kind of let myself feel happy just a little bit and I 201 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,000 think that that was all I needed because at that moment I feel 202 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,960 like my energy wiped like I did. I did the the Dang thing, but it 203 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,520 was just allowing myself to kind of have that moment of just 204 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,240 being very free with the hammer, if that makes sense of like just 205 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,440 kind of letting it go. Whatever happens happens. 206 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,640 But just trying to take that throw and just finish on a 207 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,840 really good one. And I did, and I think those 208 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,880 throws can be really hard because you want to you want to 209 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:26,080 kind of like break so badly. And I think maintaining that 210 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,560 sort of discipline was something that we've tried to work on 211 00:11:28,560 --> 00:11:30,440 throughout this, this season especially. 212 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,040 So getting that big throw off and then just allowing the 213 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,400 tsunami of all of the emotions afterwards, it kind of made the 214 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,920 moment even sweeter. Like I did it to the very end. 215 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Yeah, and we've we've seen the emotions from that clip of you 216 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,240 running over and hugging your parents after like what was kind 217 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,440 of shared in that moment. I mean, it was just. 218 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,000 Besides our tears, yeah. Besides, besides the tears. 219 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,160 Besides the tears of everyone watching it like. 220 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,000 Oh, man, I mean, when I was here four years ago, like that was my 221 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,880 first Olympic team, they, my parents had a watch party going 222 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,400 on at home at like 4:30 in the morning. 223 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,440 And so for them to be here obviously made it so special. 224 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:14,480 But I think also to break 80, which is that I mean, to be the 225 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,800 fourth woman ever to do it was amazing, but also to do it with 226 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,960 the people I love most in the world there to watch and to 227 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,480 cheer me on. Like I walked out of the cage 228 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,320 after the 80 and I I literally heard everyone like out of the 229 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,760 entire crowd, I just heard them and it was just kind of like a 230 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,800 full circle moment. Just being able to run up to 231 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,120 them and just they just threw their arms around me. 232 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:45,000 And it was very kind of grounding in that moment of wow, 233 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,560 like it's, we did it like we did it together, like this family 234 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:52,320 unit, this team, like these things never just happen on 235 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,040 their own. And for them, I think that 236 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,840 moment of watching everything like the sacrifices that they've 237 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,200 made and the love that they've given me come to fruition to 238 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,880 result in in this. I think just, you know, it adds 239 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:12,120 that extra level of of sweetness to the whole experience together 240 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,160 and having, you know, some of our family friends, some of my 241 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,760 closest friends fly out too. And sharing that moment together 242 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,760 is just so it's so cool. I think one of my favorite 243 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,560 pictures is all of us. Like they were surrounding me 244 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:25,760 from all sides. And I'm like leaning back into 245 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:30,360 them a because I'm so tired, but also to just relish in that 246 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,720 moment together and we all just look so happy. 247 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,760 So it was really, really cool. Definitely like I mean, like you 248 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,200 said after that 6th throw when you kind of just like fell to 249 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,720 your knees in the middle of the ring. 250 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,600 Like I think we all knew at that moment this one was like, even, 251 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,120 you know, you've done this three Times Now down the world or a 252 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,680 global gold, but we could kind of tell this one was special so. 253 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,000 Yeah, and I think 22 like things like this are never guaranteed, 254 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,720 like anything can happen at any moment, not on wood in your. 4 255 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,160 of the 8 best women in history. Exactly like these moments are 256 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,880 not it's not a given. And so I think allowing myself 257 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:11,080 to to enjoy that moment of like feeling that success, getting 258 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:16,440 the win and doing it with like everyone that I love by my side 259 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,680 is it just, it's really cool. And it's really hard to describe 260 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,400 that feeling of just like you realize everything came together 261 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,680 and everything has to be perfect for moments like this to happen. 262 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,280 And knowing that it all came together when it mattered most 263 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,800 on the world stage in a championship setting, especially 264 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,600 like winning a world championship once, it's hard to 265 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,200 do. But we came into the season 266 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,640 knowing that defending it was going to be even harder. 267 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:44,760 And so to do it with an 80 meter throw, just, it's just perfect. 268 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Yeah, I know he had his competition coming up the next 269 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,160 day, but was Ethan able to be there for for your competition 270 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,640 or? You know what I mean? 271 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,760 I hope with all my love to Ethan, of course, like I hope he 272 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,320 did whatever was best for him. I don't think he was there, but 273 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,440 I know he was cheering me on from from the hotel. 274 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,600 And he he like, he texted me like right before he went into 275 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,280 the call room. I was like, dude, what are you 276 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,920 doing? But he was like, it was a joy to 277 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,800 watch you throw yesterday and I'm so happy for you. 278 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,960 And I texted him back. I was like, Hey, go to the call 279 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,520 room. But also like, thank you so 280 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,720 much. And I can't wait to watch you 281 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,840 kill it. You will hear me screaming for 282 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,440 you in the stands. And I was across the track from 283 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,360 him. So I don't know if he heard it, 284 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,480 but I hope he felt it, you know? We'll say he did. 285 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,920 We'll say he did. We'll say he did. 286 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,280 He I, I heard him joking in the mix zone. 287 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,640 He was like, he wishes that he would have gone first because 288 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,360 then he would have put the pressure on you to do. 289 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,160 That Ethan I was two years in a row so. 290 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,400 Yeah. So I know you guys kind of have 291 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,840 different paths. You know, he's a couple years 292 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,680 younger. He didn't go the NCAA route like 293 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,360 you did, but both coming from BC, both having similar career 294 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,200 trajectories now. Like how special is it to kind 295 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,320 of have someone that you can share these moments with? 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,880 I think it's just it's really cool. 297 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,080 I said. I think especially knowing that 298 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,680 for throwing to really flourish in a community, like you have to 299 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,040 spend years laying the foundation and building upon it 300 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,640 in, in the coaching, in the support, like emotionally and 301 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,720 financially. Like there, there's so much that 302 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,960 goes into making a strong throwing community happen, a 303 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,480 strong community in anything that you want to pursue happen. 304 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:32,560 And so for, for, I mean, to see it not just with us, but also 305 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,400 like with Rowan Hamilton and with our like younger up and 306 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,080 Comer throwers as well. It makes it's really, really 307 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:42,720 cool to see it happen. Just knowing that we can be a 308 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,680 part of this legacy, but that we're also helping to build a 309 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,800 long lasting sort of tradition of throwing in our country and 310 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:55,000 in our in our community in BC. Like it's, it's pretty amazing. 311 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,480 And knowing how many people have sacrificed their time and their 312 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,440 just their effort and their energy to making something like 313 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,960 this happen, like over like for years is I mean, I feel like 314 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,800 this, I always like to say like this metal belongs to everyone 315 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,920 else more than it belongs to me. But but it's true because like I 316 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,400 said, things like this don't just happen. 317 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:20,119 Someone has to go into making a success like this happen. 318 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,520 And so knowing that we both come from BC and the support there is 319 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,880 just monumental, so pretty amazing. 320 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:31,760 Yeah, definitely. You'd already PB this year at 321 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:38,200 pre, but that was like an 8 centimeter PB and this was 1.63 322 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,000 meters or whatever it was. Like when you're at this level, 323 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,680 the margins are so small. Is it just a matter of peaking 324 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,280 and being more fit or is there anything technically that was 325 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,000 different between those two throws or? 326 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:52,920 I think was both actually. I think that to to get that 327 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,720 small PB at pre was really nice because it had been two years 328 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:01,560 since I previously hit my personal best of like 78. 80 on 329 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:02,560 the dot. I think it. 330 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,160 Was I love that you remember and not me, but yeah, I think yeah, 331 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,400 it was that it was at La Grand Prix in 23. 332 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,400 I like just finished my college career. 7880 is what Rachel 333 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,920 threw in Ramona. 7862, yes, OK. There we go. 334 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Dang it. Hey, you know what? 335 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,320 You. Got me? 336 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,840 You know your own marks better than I do. 337 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,560 I didn't though because I believed you, but to be able to 338 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,560 like hit that throw when I just graduated college, first year 339 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:34,440 pro was really exciting. And then to go like 2 years 340 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:39,080 without a PV was, you know, I think it forced Coach MO and I 341 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:40,680 to look at what we were doing in our training. 342 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,120 Like what can we do better? What can we improve upon? 343 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:46,040 Like what are we? Where are our shortcomings right 344 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,480 now? And with 13 months between Paris 345 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,680 and these World Championships, we had the time to really lock 346 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,120 in and see what we could develop, what we can make better 347 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,040 and what we could optimize. And I think we really did that 348 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,520 this year, especially with our recovery. 349 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:08,680 And so to hit that 7880 was 88 was really nice because I think 350 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,480 it just showed that we were on the right track. 351 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,880 Like we were making progression, we were making progress and we 352 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,440 were doing it the right way because I was healthy and I was 353 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,480 happy and everything was going according to plan. 354 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,320 But there were still things that we could fix. 355 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,440 And I think that's what made this 80 feel so special was that 356 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,360 it all really felt like it came together. 357 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:32,960 Like that throat kind of felt effortless. 358 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,360 It felt very automatic, like I wasn't thinking and I throw 359 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,440 happens so fast you don't have time to think anyways. 360 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,160 But it kind of just felt like just like it just felt right. 361 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Like everything I did in that throat was good. 362 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,400 But then we looked back at it too. 363 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,760 And coach, of course, it's like, you know, I think there are 364 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,440 things we could still do better. I'm like, you know what, I I 365 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,920 will take that because it means that I could be even better. 366 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,520 Like I, I don't know what my limit is. 367 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,240 And I'm really excited to spend this next season, but also 368 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:05,080 working into worlds in 2027, trying to push it out as far as 369 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,040 I can to see what is the next distance that I could hit. 370 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:14,360 How far can I go in the sport? And yeah, I mean, we'll be in 371 00:20:14,360 --> 00:20:16,680 Beijing in 27. Are you? 372 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,920 Guys in the World Ultimate Championships or is that just? 373 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,120 That's just the men. That's men. 374 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:21,240 So it's brutal. I. 375 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Know men's hammer and men's women's javelin, which is also 376 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,560 interesting considering I think the for shot and disc like you 377 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,000 have both world record holders and men's disc and men's shot 378 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,840 who are competing right now. So I'm I know there's a lot of 379 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,760 events that end up getting left out of the ultimate 380 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,560 championship, which was interesting. 381 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,040 So I think the the biggest comp for me next year is going to be 382 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,080 Commonwealth Games, which will be fun. 383 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,960 We're going to Scotland. I've never been to Scotland 384 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,560 before. I like the accent. 385 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,440 So I think I'll have a good time. 386 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,920 But I think next year too, it'll be kind of nice to sort of rest 387 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,760 and try some new things out in practice, not get too crazy. 388 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,680 I know we're doing something right right now, so we're going 389 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,640 to stick with that, but see if there's things that we can make 390 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,160 better. Like we have the time to do it 391 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:12,200 now and the time to sort of hit some different competitions that 392 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,840 I've never been to before, like I've never been to. 393 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,560 I think it's Halle in Germany. It's like never been there. 394 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,680 It'd be really cool to go there and just be able to have some 395 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,760 more of these experiences that I think when you're trying to 396 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,080 prepare for a major championship, you try to stay a 397 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,600 little bit more conservative and try to optimize that travel and 398 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,080 and everything like that. But I think this next year we're 399 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,240 going to have the chance to like, try some new things and 400 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,320 get even more rest in and prepare for a really, really big 401 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,920 27 for Worlds, which will be nice. 402 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,640 But I think the last year that we had this much sort of rest, 403 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,560 if you can kind of call it a rest, like that was COVID. 404 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,000 Yeah. And we'll kind of never get that 405 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,080 opportunity again. So it'll be, it'll be nice, as 406 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,680 much as I do wish that we were in the Ultimate Championship and 407 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,640 had kind of that spotlight and that chance to, you know, win 408 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,400 potentially like up to $150,000. Like that's a crazy cash prize. 409 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,800 That'd be nice. But we definitely have to take 410 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,160 the win like the Dubs where we can. 411 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,480 And so next year we'll be good just to kind of get back to the 412 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,120 foundation, get back to our roots and see, you know what, 413 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,960 what can we make better? Yeah. 414 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,160 It also gives you a year to settle into Austin once you once 415 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:16,920 you move down. There. 416 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,120 That too. That too. 417 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,680 I'm moving in about a month. Gotcha. 418 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,080 Right now, which will be wild because I've been in California 419 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,640 for eight years, which is crazy to also think I love Cal. 420 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,840 I think I think Austin would be a really cool fresh start in a 421 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280 place that I haven't spent much time before. 422 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,280 Like I was there for NCAA's in 2019 and then I was there for 423 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,080 the Formula One Grand Prix in 23. 424 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,920 So very, very, very busy. Yeah, busy trip. 425 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,320 So I haven't seen much of the city or the surrounding area. 426 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,840 So I think it'll be really cool to go and, you know, have this 427 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,400 new place to call home and eat my body weight and barbecue and 428 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,120 do all the country things. Definitely. 429 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,320 I know the past couple years the I think the best thing about you 430 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,160 has just been the consistency because hammer throw the last 431 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,520 couple years we've seen the women's event hasn't been the 432 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,120 most consistent when it comes to some of your like top 433 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:13,040 competitors. What do you think kind of gives 434 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,560 you that edge and like you don't really have bad competition at 435 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,160 least at? One, I appreciate that. 436 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,000 I appreciate that. Thank you. 437 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,080 I mean, I think the, I think the toughest competition I had this 438 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,400 year was in Norway, but I also had strep throat, so. 439 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,320 There are a lot of people that I. 440 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,880 Thought so, but I think that's one thing that Coach MO and I 441 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,240 really try to establish in our practices. 442 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Like we believe what you do in practice, you do in competition 443 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,840 and we try to maintain a very high level of intensity in every 444 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,000 practice that we do and try to stay as within that kind of 445 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,120 system of operation as we can. Since, you know, he doesn't 446 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:51,680 always get to be at every meet. And I wish he was, but he does 447 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,320 have a full time job coaching in the NCAA. 448 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720 But this really was the year where he hasn't been in a lot of 449 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,280 competitions. So we've had to really kind of 450 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,680 lock in to what we're doing. And I think it's made me more 451 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,480 mindful of what I'm doing in practice, more disciplined and 452 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,680 more focused that we can replicate what we're doing in a 453 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,240 major competition setting and try to, you know, approach every 454 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,960 competition in the same way. We want the same process of 455 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,800 entering those competition settings that, you know, you 456 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,320 have that familiarity when you get to a high level. 457 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,720 And it makes it, I want to say more comfortable because I think 458 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,360 a high level comp will never fully be comfortable and it 459 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:36,680 shouldn't be, but it creates that, that comfort in knowing 460 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,520 that you have that system that works for you. 461 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,480 You have those little things that you do that kind of set 462 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,120 your mind into the where it needs to be. 463 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:49,960 And so we, we try to create that in training with whatever we do. 464 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,400 And I think MO has always been more concerned with having a 465 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,320 high average than having like really like good far one off 466 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,840 throws. And I think that too. 467 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760 I think that's part of the reason why I'm, I'm not like the 468 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,120 biggest practice thrower. Like like I think I've had 469 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,760 people come up to me and be like, oh, like what's your 470 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,440 practice PR? And I tell them and they're 471 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,880 like, Are you sure about that? I really appreciate that some 472 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,200 people think I've thrown over 80 in practice, but I haven't. 473 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,040 I think my best practice throw is like 77 meters and I, I 474 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,720 prefer it that way because I think it shows that if I can do 475 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,880 that consistently in practice and I know I'm going to get an 476 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,120 even better result in competition, I'm going to be 477 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:37,800 more assured in what I'm doing technically and energy wise as 478 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,080 well in that comp setting. So I think we've approached it 479 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,040 in a really good way and I'm lucky enough to work with a 480 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,520 coach who knows me so well and knows what works for me and is 481 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,720 willing to learn and grow with me as a team together. 482 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760 And that's been like 8 years in the making too. 483 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040 So I trust Coach MO with my life. 484 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,480 Yeah, one of the things that was especially uncomfortable about 485 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,960 these majors is the bus ride you guys had to take, like. 486 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,360 Did you guys different for sure? Did you guys have something like 487 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:06,960 in practice where you would like start warming up and then like 488 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,440 just sit down for 15 minutes and did you guys kind of try to 489 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,800 replicate that? We did. 490 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,520 We tried to do it more once we got into Tokyo because we did a 491 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,240 training camp just outside of the city, like an hour and a 492 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,640 half away in Sacopa with a really, really a great group of 493 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,520 people. Shout out to all the throwers at 494 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,920 the University of Sakuba who let us use all their practice 495 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,160 implements and their training facilities and their gym and 496 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,600 we're super duper nice so. Good hospitality. 497 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,720 Great hospitality. So we had a good time there, but 498 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,280 once we got it into Tokyo, I think one nice thing about being 499 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,480 here and kind of getting those pre pre meet training sessions 500 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,760 in is that you have like 1, maybe 2 sessions during the day 501 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,360 where you can go throw, which means you're going to have every 502 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,520 possible thrower in that event going at those times. 503 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,600 So you end up waiting a really long time. 504 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,920 Like I think the last like big practice that I did here, I took 505 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,880 11 throws in two hours, which is not a lot. 506 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,640 That's not a lot. I can usually get my full like 507 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,840 training session of like 20 to 30 throws done and like an hour 508 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,440 to an hour and a half, maybe more of an hour and a half. 509 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,080 And so 11 throws in like two 2 1/2 hours is crazy, but it sets 510 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,920 you up for a competition setting, especially when you 511 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,760 have like, was it up to 18 throwers in both qualification 512 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,760 groups. So like, you need to get used to 513 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,080 waiting. And I'm someone who likes to 514 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,560 just go, go, go coach mom has to tell me to stop. 515 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,360 So you know, you need those reminders to be able to have 516 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,240 that good replication and know what you're getting yourself 517 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,440 into in a qualification round especially. 518 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,880 Well you don't need to worry about the 18th throwers in the 519 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,240 qualification round because you just knock it out the first 520 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,200 throw anyway, so doesn't really matter for you. 521 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,400 Which was, which is good. I don't think I actually did 522 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,320 that the last couple of times. So it was nice to be able to get 523 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,720 in and have that big throw in the first one. 524 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,480 Like I think last year, my first one was a fault. 525 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,400 I think the year before I had like just squeaked over the line 526 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,000 in my qualification round. I don't know if it's on the 527 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,920 first or second, but I think this year was the best 528 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,520 qualification I've done for sure. 529 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,680 Was was that kind of like a good confidence boost, as if you 530 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,400 needed any more going into the final? 531 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,920 I'd say so. Like, I think it's nice to know 532 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,440 that, you know, you like, I'm someone who loves pressure and I 533 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,520 love stress and anxiety going into a competition, but being 534 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,120 able to kind of thrive off of that. 535 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:27,600 And I think put everything together in a qualification 536 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,560 setting and then being able to then, you know, allow yourself 537 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040 to cool back down so that you can give yourself enough rest 538 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,880 for the final. Like, I think all of that goes 539 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,600 into definitely being a confidence booster going into a 540 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,320 final for a major championship. Yeah, and you, you mentioned how 541 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,960 important kind of the training setup is with Coach MO and your 542 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,920 guys. You have a lot of people here 543 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,320 from your group and me too. Maybe maybe throw Meekless in 544 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,760 there, although I don't know if he's dead to you guys by now. 545 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,000 No, he'll always be part of the Coach MO Part of the Coach MO 546 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,560 fam for sure. But I mean, like, Rowan had a 547 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,480 good day in qualifying. Kaisa and Anna did their thing 548 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,920 as well. Like how special is it to be at 549 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,160 this championship with all of all of the Coach MO group? 550 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Oh my God, it was amazing. And I think the cool thing, too 551 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,720 is like, I finished that competition. 552 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,040 I ran over and they were there. They were there in the stands 553 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,480 with my family. Like Kaiser brought her dad, so 554 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,760 it was really cool to have everyone just be there and 555 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,160 celebrate with me. And like, they ran in 556 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480 immediately and we were all excited for each other because 557 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,760 like, we all have big goals coming into these championships. 558 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,640 But I think the really nice thing too is that we're able to 559 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,960 be there for one another every single day in the lead up to to 560 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,880 these to these games. Oh my God, to these to these 561 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,760 worlds. And so we see everyone's 562 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,440 progression, we see what we're trying to achieve and we're able 563 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120 to be there and support one another, whether that's cheering 564 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,640 each other on or even like being a shoulder to cry on on those 565 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,040 rough days. Like we're there and we know we 566 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,880 know each other so well at this point too. 567 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,240 Like it is kind of like a little family, which is nice, 568 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,800 especially when you get into like a, a pre camp and you're 569 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,880 literally with those people for like 10 days. 570 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,240 You're not seeing anyone else. But we're so lucky to have a 571 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,160 good group of people just because like we are, we are 572 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:21,120 friends outside of training, like we are very close and I 573 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,600 think there's no one else that would truly want to spend these 574 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,120 championships with both before and during and even a little bit 575 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640 afterwards as well. So it's a great group of people. 576 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,400 Are you sticking around in Tokyo now until the end of the 577 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040 championship? I'm here with my family. 578 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,040 My parents are going to be here for another week. 579 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,120 I think I leave next Wednesday. And then some of our family 580 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,520 friends are here for a few more days too. 581 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,440 So we get to like explore now and do all the things like I 582 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,480 think we're going to try to do a day trip to Kyoto, maybe the two 583 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080 hour train right back and forth, get that little view of Mount 584 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,320 Fuji, maybe trying to do like Disney if we can. 585 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,800 We did Disney last year up to Paris and it was really cool. 586 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,280 So maybe try to do that. Exactly. 587 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,920 Yeah, my international Disney tour. 588 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:08,160 But but yeah, give definitely giving ourselves a chance to 589 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,840 explore and have this time together since we didn't get it 590 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,160 four years ago. And how many times are you ever 591 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,120 in Japan? You know, like you got to make 592 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,240 the most of your time when you can. 593 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:22,120 And I'm lucky that my my family has the flexibility to be able 594 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,760 to take that time and be here with me and and yeah. 595 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,760 And so enjoy this moment together because the next time 596 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560 we see each other, we are taking a four day road trip to Austin 597 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,040 in my car. So so it'll be good. 598 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,480 Yeah, I did. Just like like last August or 599 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 last month. I did a five day trip from the 600 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,680 Bay to Gainesville stop. Really, it was. 5. 601 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,920 Days, yeah, me and me and Audrey did. 602 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,080 It was. It was a lot. 603 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,240 But it is. But I feel like that'd. 604 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,120 Be super fun. It was. 605 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,520 It was a lot of fun. It was like 8 hours a day. 606 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,480 Not the worst thing in the world. 607 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,520 Yeah, that is nice. I feel like you do get used to 608 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,640 it for sure. As long as you take those 609 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,080 moments, like go out and stretch, see some things, give 610 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,560 yourself a breather. But that would be super fun. 611 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,520 Yeah, we we took a couple of scenic routes. 612 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,720 So I. Think as you should as you 613 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:13,640 should. Good. 614 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,360 I was talking with Val and Zeb the other day and they're 615 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,560 planning a big Like Tokyo food tour now the next couple days. 616 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,400 Awesome. Like a food. 617 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Obviously Tokyo is one of the like the food capitals of the 618 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,240 world. Is there anything in particular 619 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,480 you and your family have your sights set on? 620 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,040 Oh, so I think so. One of my best friends who 621 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,680 traveled here from California, so he's super knowledgeable and 622 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,520 I think he has some places in mind for sure. 623 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,160 We were able to hit some like a really cool spot last year after 624 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,000 Paris and get this whole like Michelin star tasting menu. 625 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,800 It was crazy. I loved every moment of it. 626 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,720 So I think we're going to try to hit a couple of these hot spots 627 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,240 and and just explore the city, like really give ourselves a 628 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,080 chance to like if we see something when we're out, like 629 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,560 let's just go. Why not like just kind of find a 630 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,960 location and just be free in any way that we can. 631 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,120 So we're done gonna try to hit a couple spots. 632 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,120 I think Was it shabu shabu? We're gonna hit like maybe one 633 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,760 of those places like I. Think Mondo was hyping that up 634 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,240 the other day so it. Was good. 635 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,840 We had some, yeah, we had one in Sakuba at our pre camp. 636 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,360 It was delicious. It was so good. 637 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,560 The food are just like so fresh and so tasty and I love it. 638 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,120 So definitely gonna get my body's weight in Japanese food. 639 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200 Also reassuring to my coach that I don't lose weight in the 640 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,440 offseason too much as I know my body is gonna be like, OK, bye 641 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,160 and then just like wither away. So this will be, this will be 642 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,440 good. I think he feels a little better 643 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,400 knowing that I'm surrounded by delicious food, so I don't just 644 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,200 waste away and let my muscles atrophy. 645 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,120 Yeah, like you said, another good thing about going to Austin 646 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,800 is there's just unlimited BBQ spot. 647 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,640 All I could ever ask for, all. Right now, putting your Cow bias 648 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,440 and your Canada bias aside, 4 finals left, which throws are 649 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,760 you most excited for? 4 finals left. 650 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,080 Yeah, for. Oh my gosh, you're right Shot. 651 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,199 Men's Disc. Oh my God, that's a good 652 00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:21,080 question. Oh, oh, I mean there are some 653 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,880 people doing crazy things and all those events. 654 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,520 That's a tough question, I think. 655 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,040 I mean, obviously going to be cheering Sarah on in shot 656 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,880 course, she's an icon and a legend and there are some pretty 657 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,520 far throws happening woman shot this year. 658 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,639 So I think that comp is going to go off like, I think they're 659 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:43,239 going to get some really, really big throws out there. 660 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,000 And hopefully I can go watch it DVD on whether or not we're in 661 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,280 Kyoto. Yeah, but I think it's going to 662 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,840 be really cool. I mean, you have some guys 663 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,040 taking some big tosses and Jeff too with Julian and Neeraj and 664 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,360 like that's going to be a great comp. 665 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,960 I mean, it's and then obviously you look at disc and Miko like I 666 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,920 that was the first one I mentioned. 667 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:08,240 Sorry, Miko, we do love you, but like their comp is going to be 668 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:09,800 crazy. Like you have some of the 669 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,640 furthest throws of all time that have happened this year in that 670 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,280 event. And like we, we were watching 671 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160 him compete live in, yeah, in Ramona. 672 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,720 We were on the on the live feed this year. 673 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,480 And he's so sweet too. Like he came back last year when 674 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,880 he broke the world record and this year when he did it again. 675 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,680 Crazy. But I asked one of our other 676 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,400 Lithuanian friends, I said, OK, what are some really good 677 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,080 Lithuanian desserts you know, that I could make? 678 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,760 And she was like, OK, you should make this thing called 679 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,880 tinganies. And so I made it. 680 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,480 And he was like, these are really good. 681 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:46,560 So so I might have to ship him some more tinganies after these 682 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,120 championships. I hope I get to to Oregon, but I 683 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,120 think they're going to just go in there and and go crazy too, 684 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640 like stadium throwing in discs too, like if you don't have 685 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,480 wind, it really tests you. And so I think they're just 686 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,720 going to get in there and I think we're going to see some 687 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:09,800 pretty some pretty great throws out of all of them. 688 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,080 You and Ethan set the standard pretty high, so they've got 689 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,960 those competitions, have all got some stuff to live up to. 690 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,280 It'll be fun for sure. And I think I think being able 691 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,200 to like be in the sport too, with someone as great as Ethan. 692 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Like he is so young, but he's so successful and he's just so like 693 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,080 grounded and humble and just so supportive too. 694 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,600 Like we, we chat a little bit throughout the year and I see 695 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,280 him at a few meets and it's always really nice to see him 696 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,880 and catch up with him and see how he's doing. 697 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,480 Because I think he's someone who is, you know, just come into the 698 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:52,600 sport and grown in it and also pushed it I think even further 699 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,440 than where it already was at. Like we've had some incredible 700 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,440 male hammer throwers over the last few years. 701 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,760 And for him to come in and they keep pushing the boundaries of 702 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,520 it too. Like it's, it's inspiring and 703 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,480 it's really motivating. And then being able to do it 704 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,320 with him very much feels like a kind of like a team. 705 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,640 So it's cool. And I think being able to watch 706 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680 him last night, like break the championship record, so low key 707 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,840 was really amazing and so. He did actually yell a little 708 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,880 bit when that mark popped up. I was. 709 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,400 Oh my God. Good for him. 710 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,040 Yeah, we're both. I need to remind people. 711 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,000 Yeah. You mentioned how young Ethan 712 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,680 is, but the three women that finished behind you are, I think 713 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,680 2218 and 22 again. Insane. 714 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,880 You know you're 26, which Hammer Primes are. 715 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,360 That's one of the events where it can come a little later. 716 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,600 Like, how excited are you for what the next decade to decade 717 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,360 and a half could look like in this event? 718 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,640 We are literally in a golden age right now for throwing, 719 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,760 especially for women's hammer throw. 720 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,880 It makes me so excited because women's hammer throw, first time 721 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,400 it was in the Olympics was in 2000. 722 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080 It's still such a new event and to see how far it's already 723 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,800 common, how much further it has to go. 724 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,240 Like I think you make a great point and bring up how young 725 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,480 everyone is because they are super young and it shows like we 726 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,640 are getting better, younger we're which means like we're 727 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,360 figuring out new technical things. 728 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,680 We're making advancements in our sport and we're still like at 729 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,120 the very beginning stages of it. We still have so much more to 730 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,120 improve upon. And I think the future of our 731 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,360 sport is so bright because the women who are in it are so 732 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,800 great. Like they're amazing people in 733 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,360 like in and out of the circle. And it's such an honor to throw 734 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,160 at them. Like I think being able to come 735 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,680 out of that cage and hug every single one of those women out 736 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,480 there and then see even more people afterwards and to have 737 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,760 that moment together where we're celebrating each other, it just 738 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,960 makes it so special. Like I think the it's not every 739 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:55,760 day that you get to compete with the best in your sport and not 740 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,200 just like one or two of them, like you said, like how many of 741 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,600 the top ten, top 15 of all time, top 20 right now are competing 742 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,040 in our sport in our event. Like it's, it's really cool to 743 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,800 be able to walk in there and know that everyone's going to 744 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,240 put on a world class performance. 745 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:15,600 And it really pushes you to try to be a better thrower and with 746 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,680 how amazing everyone is, to like a better person. 747 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,840 Yeah, well, it's clearly a fun time to be a hammer thrower. 748 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,640 It's a fun time to be a hammer fan. 749 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,760 Really fun time to be someone who talks about all the throws. 750 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,080 Cameron, thank you so much for taking some time today. 751 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,640 Congratulations again and enjoy the rest of your time in Japan 752 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,880 and. Thank you so much. 753 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:35,520 Thank you. Enjoy your time too. 754 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,000 Thank you.