1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,240 All right, Chris Chavez coming to you live from Tokyo and I'm 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:12,240 joined now by world championship bronze medalist Julia Paternine 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,200 in the marathon. Absolutely crushed it. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:20,160 I think over the last 48 hours, your phone must just be blowing 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,560 up to notifications non-stop. And then on top of that, just 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,320 like 0 sleep. I mean, how have you? 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,560 Have you slept much at all since the race? 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,760 I slept about two hours the day the race like ended and then 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,760 yesterday I managed to get some sleep and then I've been having 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,000 like random 20 minute naps here and there which I was asleep 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,200 right before this so. Well, thank you for coming out 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,680 and, and, and doing this because I think like right now, there's 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,120 so many people who have obviously like started 14 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,320 familiarizing themselves with like your story and just the 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,720 sheer nature of how this race unfolded. 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:59,200 And then just your pure emotion and reaction at the finish line 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,480 has just captivated thousands and thousands of people around 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,519 the world. So First off, congratulations. 19 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:10,000 And I want to start off by like just kind of overall like coming 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,240 into this whole entire World Championships, like what were 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,800 the expectations that that you had for yourself here? 22 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,920 Yeah, so I sat down with my coach Jack the night before the 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:26,400 race and we said, OK, this is like AB and Seagull, and Seagull 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,680 was like, OK, let's just like finish the race because the 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,080 conditions are going to be hell. And you never know if like with 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,600 all these championship races, there's always so many people 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,160 that drop out. So we knew that was probably a 28 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,560 factor. So just finished B goal was OK, 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,120 maybe like top 2030, like definitely top half, but around 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,000 there. And then a goal was OK, top 8. 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,400 But even like, I know when he said top eight, we kind of 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,480 looked at each other like, oh man, like that's like, wow, top 33 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,600 8. And so yeah, those were kind of 34 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,440 the the goals. And honestly, the whole plan was 35 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,160 always just run my own race. And then if I can just stay true 36 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,080 to my own race and my own process, then the kind of 37 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,039 results will follow. We're. 38 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Going to be jumping around, I think a little bit and just kind 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,440 of going over the course of your your history, both personal 40 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Internet at the same time, like professionally. 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,720 But you know, for you, you took to the roads really well as soon 42 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,720 as you jumped into it. And then with that first 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,080 marathon that that you had, I mean, did you feel after that 44 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,120 race that it's like, oh, OK, the marathon is and, or has the 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840 potential to be like my specialty event and putting the 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,560 World Championships on there? Was that something that excited 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,400 you? I think after the how well the 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,800 first one went. Yes and no. 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,960 So I think a lot of people think that all that first like 10 Milo 50 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,880 was like when I realized that I was like built for the longer 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,960 stuff, but I've always liked the longer things. 52 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,720 I in England, you can't really run the 5K on the track until 53 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,680 you're a little bit older. So the 3K was the main distance 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,160 that was the longest and I always did the 3K hated the 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,880 1500. I despised the 800. 56 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:07,160 I absolutely hated it. Anything remotely short I've 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,680 always disliked, and anyone that has ran with me can attest to 58 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,200 that. And then I'm very much a rhythm 59 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,240 runner. I don't like little, like 60 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,840 obstacles on things. I'm not a fan of cross country. 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,360 I like running in a straight line. 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,560 I like just switching off and just running. 63 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,520 So I always knew that I was eventually going to end up in 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,560 the marathon distance. That's kind of always what I 65 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 wanted to do. I just didn't know it would be 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,560 so soon. I think it's pretty common. 67 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,720 You know, you have your track career and then you go to the 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,720 marathon. But I mean, I, I felt ready to 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,920 do it and I, I felt ready for a marathon. 70 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,120 So we kind of did that. But yeah, that 10 Mila, I did 71 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,240 twin, 10 Mila, Twin Cities. And I think I just really 72 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,680 enjoyed it. And that was the first like time 73 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,200 in a while I had just really enjoyed racing. 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,920 And then all those Rd. races after was a fairly similar 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,680 feeling. So then when I ran that the my 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,440 first marathon again, it was the same. 77 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,840 I like felt confident and in my own and yeah, and then qualified 78 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,920 for Wald's and yeah, here we are. 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,720 So with being like a rhythm runner and throwing yourself 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,240 kind of into to that classification of sorts. 81 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,480 Like when it comes to the marathon, I've just remember 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,720 last year, you know, in the lead up to the Paris Olympics, 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,800 everyone's like, well, we got to get ready for the hills and at 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,040 the same time be as fit as possible and fast. 85 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,560 So assessing like the Tokyo World Championship course and 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 stuff like how did you go about preparing for this race knowing 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,160 that it was going to be hot, the potential to be fast. 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,520 And like, you know, when you start hearing and seeing the 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,680 names that we're going to be in this where it's like Ethiopian 90 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,240 names take us a safe foot to the team, It's like, oh, that that's 91 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,440 a 211 marathoner in the field parish of cheer cheer from Kenya 92 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,040 was in it. So it's like that's a 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,480 championship race here there. So how did you sort of start to, 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,520 you know, the McCurdy Micro Marathon? 95 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,120 Awesome time trial of sorts, but then this is a true race in and 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,920 of. Itself, Yeah. 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,560 So I give all credit of that to James Mccuddy and Jack, my 98 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,960 coach. They got me so ready for all of 99 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,720 the different conditions, things that could go wrong, the course, 100 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,680 everything. We did a lot of hill, hilly long 101 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,280 runs in the lead up to this. And those hilly long runs. 102 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:22,160 If I live in Flagstaff, which is at altitude, if you can run 103 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,400 those hills at altitude, you'll, you'll be OK running hills at 104 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,840 sea level. So I was really prepared for 105 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:31,400 that last 5K, which was going to be up kind of uphill back into 106 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,400 the stadium. And then I'd been using the 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,320 sauna a lot. Really do not enjoy the sauna. 108 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,680 So that was pretty tough. But I think that helped 109 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,920 significantly too, just getting ready for the heat and the 110 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,920 humidity. And then thankfully the sun 111 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,680 wasn't out on race day. And I think that was also pretty 112 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,560 helpful because, you know, you don't have to deal with this 113 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:55,000 blazing sun in your face. But I think all of those things 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,960 and then being very prepared in terms of bottles and, you know, 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,200 knowing, OK, this is a marathon, something will go wrong. 116 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,520 Like you might drop a bottle. You might need to stop to use 117 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,720 the bathroom. You might need to, I don't know. 118 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,800 I don't know, Retie, your shoe. It's the marathon. 119 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,880 It's a long race, but that's OK. You have time. 120 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,520 And I think that I was just very prepared for all the chaos that 121 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,520 would probably be in happening in this race. 122 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,960 And that really helped. When you got here, I guess I'm 123 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,560 trying to, I forget who I was with yesterday or, or if it was 124 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,920 with Jester or Susanna, but someone I think mentioned that 125 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,600 they were in an elevator with you or somewhere at the hotel 126 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,400 and they, they came across you and they're like, oh, so like, 127 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,400 how are you feeling? Like, what are your 128 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,640 expectations? And you were very chill about 129 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,240 like coming into this marathon. And so, you know, confidence 130 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,360 wise and like mental headspace like was this is your first ever 131 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,960 time at a stage like this? Some people could just be like, 132 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,360 oh, happy to be here or like those those your goals that you 133 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,920 had when did sort of like the competitive drive start to 134 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,920 really kick in like OK, like today has the potential to be 135 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,720 special. Yeah, honestly, I don't really 136 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,520 know if it kicked in until pretty late in the race. 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,920 I really was so focused on running my own race and keeping 138 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,360 all my splits like as even as I could and just like taking off 139 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,080 each of those miles that I was never really thinking like, oh, 140 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,960 let me catch this person and let me get this person. 141 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,640 I was like, I I can't control what anyone else does, like 142 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,600 someone else could, I don't know, search here or search 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,200 there or they could have the race of their lives. 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Like I cannot control that. So I was just trying trying to 145 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,880 run my own race. And I think that also going into 146 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,160 it, thinking of it like, well, I just have to keep doing what I 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,560 have been doing leading into this, because that's been 148 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,960 walking, which is, you know, just getting in my own little 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,600 planet when I run and just running. 150 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,120 And I think that that really helped. 151 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,680 And it also take took some of the like gravity off of the 152 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,680 race. So I didn't know. 153 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,400 I know I was in thud and I think that helped because if I had 154 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,360 known, I think I would have started freaking out and being 155 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,960 like, Oh my gosh, I need to not slow down. 156 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,400 Oh my gosh, where's the person behind me? 157 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,600 So when I like when I passed Susanna, I think when she was in 158 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,760 in thud and I passed her, I had no idea I was passing it to go 159 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:09,440 into Thud. So I think that that honestly 160 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:10,840 helped. And kind of almost like 161 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,120 ignorance is bliss. So yeah. 162 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,000 What was that safe pace that like you kind of locked in at at 163 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,080 the beginning that you're like, all right, if I just stay here, 164 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,360 like, you know, and not really cover necessarily all of these 165 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:27,240 moves or anything like that, Like what did you assess is 166 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,640 like, OK, if I stay within this, like I'm OK. 167 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,080 And it did probably pay off because then you're just picking 168 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,960 people off naturally in the second-half. 169 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,960 Yeah. So I think coming into this, we 170 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,600 were, we knew I was significantly fitter than the 171 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,520 last marathon, but with the conditions we thought, OK, this 172 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,880 will probably be similar pacing to that marathon. 173 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:48,520 So that was pretty much it. So somewhere in the five 30s. 174 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Our plan was more in the five 40s, but it kind of, I was 175 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,320 already in like, I don't know, 50th after the race went out and 176 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,760 I was running 5:30. So I was like, OK, well, I'm, 177 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520 I'm just going to stay in the 30s regardless because it feels 178 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,600 OK right now. And like I'm still pretty 179 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,040 behind. So we'll just, we'll just see 180 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,000 how this goes. So it was, yeah, around 5:35 or 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,200 something like that. And I pretty much was around 182 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,960 that for all of the miles. And I think at one point I 183 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,360 caught the pack in front of me and then they started surging 184 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,720 and they started running a little faster. 185 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,720 And I was like, I don't really want to go with that. 186 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,320 Like we still have a while to go. 187 00:09:23,560 --> 00:09:27,560 And I'm really glad I didn't because I was actually with AI 188 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:30,720 think it was the Finnish woman and she was running with me and 189 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,320 she went with me. We caught that pack and she went 190 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,320 with that move. And then I think she ended up 191 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,120 like that kind of that move caught up to her a little bit. 192 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:40,920 And she ran a phenomenal race. She came fifth. 193 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,680 But I was kind of grateful that I just thought, OK, I'm I'm 194 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:48,440 going to stay in the five 30s and hopefully these people will 195 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 come back to me again. With the marathon, so many times 196 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,840 people just think like you shut your brain off for a good 197 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,440 majority of it and then maybe with 10K to go, that's when you 198 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,000 engage. But in a race like this, did you 199 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,760 have to be mentally on from from the get go to make so many of 200 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,040 those decisions? Not really. 201 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,920 Again, like I was just in my own little planet. 202 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,640 I was really thinking of just get to the next bottle station. 203 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,840 So 3 miles at a time. There was some people on the 204 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,800 course that I would see and I kind of get distracted by that. 205 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,960 And then I was trying to just not think almost for the as long 206 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,800 as I could because I, you know, the, the marathon starts to 207 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,160 really hurt when you have like 6-7 miles to go. 208 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,400 So I was just trying to conserve as much mental energy as I 209 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,640 physically could so that I had energy to use in that last part. 210 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Because I think people forget that you feel pretty good until 211 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,880 you get to, you know, 20 ish miles and then you think like 212 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,600 earlier in the race, like oh whatever, 6 miles in this 26 213 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,240 mile long race like is nothing. But no, those last 6 miles feel 214 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,320 like an absolute eternity. So you need to have some kind of 215 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,760 reserve left for that. What was it like, I guess then, 216 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,640 because I've seen on Instagram Stories just sort of like the 217 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,000 energy coming from the side of the chorus, you know, from fans 218 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,560 or it's like, I think at one point, like someone yelled at 219 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:06,040 you like Slake and then like you just, you responded back. 220 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,280 And it's like usually you don't even see that. 221 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Like I remember years ago, like Molly Seidel, like high fiving 222 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,200 her sister ended up being like a big deal 'cause everyone was 223 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,360 like, oh, how could she expend that much energy? 224 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,960 But for you, it's sort of like you were feeding off of that. 225 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:23,680 Yeah, so I think that was my friend Eli. 226 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,240 And the night before the race he texted me and he's like, I'm 227 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,320 going to be on the course. And I was like, oh, OK, sweet. 228 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,080 And he's like, what should I yell at you? 229 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,600 Slay queen? And I was like, sure, yell at 230 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,480 me. Slay queen. 231 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,560 Like that works. And I saw him a couple times and 232 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:41,200 I think I saw him at like 30 K and I turned to him and I like, 233 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,920 spotted him in the crowd and I was like, slay queen. 234 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,240 I think he has a video of that. And I think that just doing 235 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,920 those things, I don't know, it takes again, like take some of 236 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,400 the gravity off of the race. So you're not you can't be 237 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,560 thinking when you're in such a long race, like, OK, I got to be 238 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,640 locked in. Like I need to do this, this and 239 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,440 this because like that is exhausting. 240 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,960 Like if you take it so seriously and a so tense for the whole 241 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 race like that, there's only so much of that that you can take. 242 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,840 So also, I think, you know, it's a marathon and people say like, 243 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,720 Oh, you don't want to be expending energy doing things 244 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,440 like that, but like, if you're pacing the marathon right, like 245 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 you should be OK for a fair amount of it. 246 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,840 Like if you can't do those things, I think you're probably 247 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,720 not running the right pace in the 1st place. 248 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,680 So yeah. OK, so you heard that, but like 249 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:32,960 nowhere along the course. I guess it's because we're we're 250 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,840 in Japan, but like no one gave you any sort of cues as to like 251 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,840 5th, 4th, like nothing. You had no idea. 252 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,800 So I knew, I think it was like maybe around halfway or just off 253 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,280 to half, one of the Uruguayan like team leaders who was doing 254 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,560 the bottles, he yelled at me something like you're in 14th or 255 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,000 12th, I don't remember what it was. 256 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,760 And he yelled that to me. And I was like, oh, wow, OK. 257 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,800 And then I started picking people off. 258 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,160 And as I kind of caught people, I was thinking, OK, that's one 259 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,040 more down. But like, I again, it's count. 260 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,600 You lose count. I'm tired. 261 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,360 I'm not really thinking and I also didn't know those people 262 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,880 dropping out ahead of me. So I think when I entered the 263 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,320 stadium, I truly I thought I was in 6th, maybe fifth, something 264 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,480 like that. I had no idea I was in 3rd and I 265 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,080 was honestly too scared to look behind me because I was like, I 266 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,320 don't want to know if there's a pack right there because I do 267 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:30,680 not want to have to Sprint right now. 268 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,480 So I was really just trying to run. 269 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,600 And again, I know I've said it 1,000,001 times, but run my own 270 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 race and you know, if someone was gonna catch me at the end, 271 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,280 so be it. But my race plan was just keep 272 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,840 running my own race. Because like you, you, you 273 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,680 weren't, you know, take us to Stefa or Parish or cheer, cheer 274 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:52,280 like there wasn't as much of like a camera angle on you in 275 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,360 those later stages of the race. But what are you seeing in in 276 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,160 those last couple miles? When is it just pure carnage 277 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,760 sometimes for some of those people who did, you know, take 278 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,040 it out way too hot and like, I don't know if it was me and I'd 279 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,480 be seeing, looking over and seeing, oh, it's someone in a 280 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,200 Kenya kid or an Ethiopia kid who was like that. 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,240 You're passing. I I would be like, that should 282 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,600 be a good sign of like how far up I am. 283 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,920 So what what? What were you seeing along the 284 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,960 course at that point? Yeah, I think it was maybe 10K 285 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,840 to go. I ended up finding myself near 286 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,440 the like the cob with the camera and it's like filming. 287 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,040 I'm like, OK, this has to be a good sign because like, they're 288 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,960 usually at the front. They're all going to be filming 289 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,600 someone that's like further back. 290 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,240 So I remember they were like with me for a while, which 291 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,480 honestly, it was kind of difficult because the car was 292 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,320 blowing like hot fumes at you. I think I heard Jess say that in 293 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,080 one of her interviews too. And you're like, OK, this is 294 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,440 really hot. And now I'm getting this 295 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,680 compounded with these like fumes that I have to run with. 296 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,720 But I knew that when I was near that camera, I was like, OK, 297 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,480 this has to be a good sign. And then I passed, I believe it 298 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,280 was a woman from Kenya around then. 299 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:08,000 And then it took a while for me to pass to catch Susanna, but 300 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,920 she held pretty strong when I went past Tattoo, like she I 301 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,480 feel like she came with me for a bit. 302 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,240 There was also a lot of very tight hairpin tons. 303 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,920 So there was like 6 tons what you could really kind of gauge a 304 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,000 little more where you're at. But The thing is, is the last 5K 305 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,080 into the stadium, there's no more of those tons. 306 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,760 So earlier in the race it was easier to kind of figure out 307 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 where you were. But as the race went on, I had 308 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,280 no idea because I wasn't able to see people coming, you know, in 309 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:39,040 the other direction to me. So yeah, I was, it was AI 310 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,320 wouldn't say it was carnage in front of me because everyone was 311 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,520 pretty spread out. But yeah, it was definitely, I 312 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:45,640 don't really know what I was thinking. 313 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,960 I was also just in a lot of pain and trying to make sure I didn't 314 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,720 stop. Where was that pain or like that 315 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,080 fatigue at that point? Just, I mean, easy enough to say 316 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,560 just like your legs, but in like in general like was there 317 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,400 anything else? No, I think it was. 318 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,440 It was mainly my legs and I just just really wanted to stop. 319 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,400 It wasn't even like one particular thing. 320 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,120 I remember the other marathon I did, it was my coughs. 321 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,160 They were like seizing up and I was just scared my legs were 322 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,200 going to give way in that marathon and I wasn't going to 323 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:23,320 make it with this one. I remember mile with three miles 324 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,040 to go until 2 miles to go, I was in a lot of pain and I was like 325 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,640 this, this needs to be close to being done. 326 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,880 And I was so scared that just like kind of subconsciously I 327 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,880 was just going to stop almost like without even being able to 328 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,480 control it. So I just started counting in my 329 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,360 head and I'm like, OK, the time will pass. 330 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,840 Like so I was just like counting to 10 again and again and again. 331 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,320 And then the time kept passing and then I was like, OK, I just 332 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,120 have to get back to the stadium. I just have to get back to the 333 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,280 stadium and then there was a pretty big hill and I was like, 334 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,680 OK, well it's a good sign I'm going up a hill because I know 335 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:57,040 the hills are at the end of the course. 336 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,320 So I'm almost there. And I remember getting up that 337 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,960 hill and I was like, OK, this is the last hill I have to run for 338 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,240 a while because I know you had a two week break after this. 339 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,480 So yeah, those were pretty much my thoughts throughout. 340 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,079 Which how did you feel? I guess like, well, first 341 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:14,839 there's like that crazy ramp that you have to go down to get 342 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,680 onto the track and then, yeah, onto the track itself. 343 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,040 Is it, you know, it's kind of funny because then you could see 344 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,440 the finish line on the on the other side, you know, emptying 345 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,359 the tank at that point. Like was that just sort of like, 346 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,440 all right, it is what it is. Like I'm just going to face 347 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,480 seeing the result and it might be 4th, 5th, 6th, whatever it 348 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,680 was like what, What were you thinking? 349 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,600 I guess now that once you got into the stadium. 350 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Yeah, so I hit that ramp and I remember being like, Oh my 351 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,320 goodness, thank goodness this is downhill because I was like, OK, 352 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:51,200 I can breathe for a second. So I remember that very clearly. 353 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,480 And then it was there was a lot of people cheering and clapping 354 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,800 and like in the little tunnel, which was nice, but it was also 355 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,240 like a little, it was pretty quiet just before the stadium, 356 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,640 which was actually very refreshing because you know, you 357 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,840 kind of tired and people screaming at you and everything. 358 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,080 And so it was nice to have a little bit of silence before 359 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,440 going into the stadium. And then I got into the stadium 360 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:19,160 and again, I really wasn't thinking like what position I 361 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,680 was like I was when I kind of went in, I was like, I just have 362 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,080 200 meters left and then I can stop running. 363 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 And I did that 200. And that's when I started 364 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,400 looking around and I was like, hang on a second, what what is 365 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,640 happening here? And then my, I was really just 366 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,720 concerned that that wasn't the finish line. 367 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,760 So that was my main concern is I thought I had this is, you know, 368 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,480 you're tied. It's the end of the marathon. 369 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,640 I thought I had two laps around the track. 370 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,520 And I also wasn't sure if that was the finish or it was the 371 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,800 next 200 was the finish. And so I'm like, I have seen so 372 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,920 many videos of people stopping in a race and then they get 373 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,440 caught at the end because they stop and they think this is the 374 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:00,960 finish and they have another lap to go. 375 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,600 It's like, I don't want to end up on no context track because, 376 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,760 you know, I got confused where the finish was. 377 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:11,480 So I was trying to ask one of the camera officials and that's 378 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,240 what I'm pointing at. I'm like, is like pointing like, 379 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,040 is this the finish? And he's just sat there staring 380 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,360 at me. And I'm like, yes, no, like, 381 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:26,640 please, I want to stop running. And so then I was like, OK, I 382 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,200 think I'm pretty sure this is the finish. 383 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,320 And then I look to the other side of me. 384 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,480 And then that's when all the photographers were there and 385 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,160 someone was like, you got bronze? 386 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:35,760 And I, like, put the three fingers up. 387 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,040 And I was like, just like, what do you mean I got bronze? 388 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,240 And then I'm just looking around, like, what is happening? 389 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Like, what is going on? Like, I still also was a little 390 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,800 bit scared that wasn't the finish. 391 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:53,880 So it's like I don't quite want to stop and relax yet, but those 392 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,960 were kind of all my thoughts in that last part. 393 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,440 Do you black out at that point or then just like, is it just 394 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:04,360 like a huge adrenaline energy rush that comes after, you know, 395 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,680 exhausting yourself? Yeah, I just was in so much 396 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,480 disbelief. And I just also again and was in 397 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 so much pain and just wanted to stop. 398 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:20,160 So I think this year relief is being like, OK, I don't have to 399 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,800 keep running anymore. That that was what I was 400 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,240 thinking. And then I was just in shock and 401 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,000 I was like, there's no way this just happened. 402 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,920 Like I truly was just looking around like I I don't 403 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,880 understand. Like is someone please just 404 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,960 confirm this is like actually happening right now because I 405 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,080 cannot believe this. They hand you the coolest thing 406 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,760 I think that World Athletics has done in recent years that these 407 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160 world championship is handing people the medals immediately 408 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,240 after. So then when once you got it, 409 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,600 like that's when you know for sure, like, oh, this is for 410 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,640 real. Then I think like you were just 411 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,440 running around. There's a video I think of like 412 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,200 the Uruguay's like national press team or whatever it is 413 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,440 like celebrating you in that moment. 414 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,400 So like what's happened? Like I guess now just like the 415 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,720 wave of excitement for you, we put up like a graphic and 416 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,280 instantly it's the all the pro runners who have interacted with 417 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,760 you in some way, shape or form, whether it was in like your NCA 418 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,200 career or in Flagstaff on a run, like everyone immediately just 419 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,880 started celebrating. And so for you to be at the 420 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,640 center of it, like what's that like to receive all of that at 421 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,320 once, like this huge wave? Yeah, Oh my gosh, It has been 422 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,880 crazy. I my phone has been just blowing 423 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,120 up and it's just been insane. The amount of like messages and 424 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,200 everything. It's been, yeah, a lot. 425 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,520 But it's, it's meant a lot. I've had so many people reach 426 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,480 out to me and I, it's just being really cool to feel so supported 427 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,480 and have so many people cheering for me. 428 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,520 And yeah, it's been, it's been great to feel like I've kind of 429 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,960 made some form of a difference. And, you know, provided an 430 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,920 example for a lot of like younger girls in Uruguay that, 431 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,680 you know, they can, they can go run, they can do it. 432 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,200 So that's being really special. Just having people reach out, 433 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,560 showing how much it meant to them. 434 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,320 And just like, even random strangers that I don't know, 435 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,240 saying that they cried watching me finish. 436 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,600 And I'm like, oh, wow. So yeah, that's been just 437 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,960 absolutely insane. And I just am so grateful that I 438 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,360 have so many people in my corner that get to celebrate this with 439 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:21,920 me. Yeah, Studio, obviously. 440 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:26,680 Flagstaff claims you, Uruguay claims you, the UK claims you. 441 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:31,560 But how do those kind of three different pockets of fans differ 442 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,840 and sort of, and how do you kind of hold them close to you as 443 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,800 sort of the different parts of your life where you've developed 444 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,520 one as a professional runner and growing up, you know, family, 445 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,520 all that kind of stuff. So it's like, how has sort of 446 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,040 the reception how, how, how different are those, those 3? 447 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:57,680 Yeah, that's a good question. So I think with the UK, it's, 448 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:01,960 it's been a lot about like how I, you know, was in the 449 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,880 athletics community growing up and everything and how I ran at 450 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,160 English schools, which is like our version of nationals, 451 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480 whatever, when you're in high school and how that helped me 452 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,440 develop. And so it's been a lot of like 453 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,280 reminiscing almost on my on the past, which has been pretty nice 454 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,720 and it makes me feel nostalgic. And then back in Flagstaff, 455 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,240 that's just like my friends that are just really happy for me. 456 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,920 And I can't wait to get back to see them all and celebrate with 457 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,280 them. And then with Uruguay, it's, 458 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:34,480 it's funny because it's like the messages, there's a slogan in 459 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Uruguay and it's Uruguay, no mas. 460 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,160 And it's like what everyone is just spamming my comments with. 461 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,160 And it means like, it's almost like a way of saying like this 462 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,200 is Uruguay, Like this is quintessentially Uruguayan. 463 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,000 And it's just amazing. I've had some, I've had some 464 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,040 caricatures being like sent to me of myself. 465 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,520 I've had all these like funny Photoshop things just like of 466 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Uruguayan, like things that are very special in Uruguayan 467 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,080 culture. Like there's a a small kind of 468 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,120 theme park almost that's in the capital that I grew up that was 469 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,960 like my childhood, like I loved going to that had like bump A 470 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,800 cause and everything. And in one of my interviews 471 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,320 after I mentioned that park about like how growing up I 472 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,120 always went to that and someone made like a graphic of like me 473 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,080 with one of the rides from the pot. 474 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:26,080 Like when I'm pointing at the finish line instead, they like 475 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,160 added the the ride from the pot that I'm pointing at. 476 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,960 So that's just being great. And yeah, it's been really cool. 477 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:38,920 And I'd Suarez comment on one of my Instagram posts, which my 478 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,280 family are big soccer fans, big Suarez fans. 479 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,160 So my parents were like freaking out about that. 480 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,080 They're like, no, wait, it's Suarez. 481 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,120 Just comment. I've had the president from 482 00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:53,360 Uruguay reach out to me. I met the Uruguayan ambassador 483 00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:58,200 that's in Japan this morning. So it's been absolute insanity. 484 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,560 It's been It seriously does not feel real. 485 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,200 When's the last time that you were you were back? 486 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,400 There I was there in January of so this not the January just 487 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,680 gone, but the one before. OK. 488 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,000 So I mean, I've seen just sort of like the videos of Luis 489 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,640 Gorjalva going back to Guatemala and being treated like a 490 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,200 national hero there. And same thing anytime a Kenyan 491 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,240 does anything in track and goes back and there's just like a 492 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,480 parade at the airport and all that kind of stuff. 493 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,480 So it's like, have you thought about, like, hey, you know, 494 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,520 maybe it's time to book another trip out there and, you know, 495 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,920 really, you know, give this back to the people, too. 496 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,600 Yeah, definitely. I do want to get back out the 497 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520 the reason I haven't. So I used to go every year 498 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,960 growing up, we went for all of like Christmas and New Year's we 499 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,240 would spend there, which was really nice because it's summer 500 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,840 there. So like growing up in England 501 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,680 when it's cold and miserable and I'd be like, I get to escape to 502 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:54,360 the sun right now. But the flights there is just 503 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,480 like it is a long trip to get there. 504 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,360 There isn't really a direct flight. 505 00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:00,800 So when I was living in California or it would take, I 506 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,480 think when we did it two years ago, it took 36 hours total to 507 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,840 get there. So it is long. 508 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,680 So it's really hard on not only your body, but just like just 509 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,440 trying to schedule it and everything. 510 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,320 And they're like when they're on vacation is different to when 511 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,040 I'm like on vacation when I was growing up in school. 512 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,160 So we wouldn't want to go and like my cousin, for example, 513 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,080 would be locked up in school all day because like I want to go 514 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,000 see my cousin. So we want to make sure that we 515 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,360 could time it right. So I definitely do want to go 516 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,640 back at some point. It's just a matter of figuring 517 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,400 out how to get the flights and figure all that with the 518 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,040 logistical stuff. But definitely do want to go 519 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,920 back soon. I think about just sort of you 520 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,280 coming through like after the race, yes, fully exhausted, then 521 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:51,200 just the rush of of emotion, but then having to do interviews 522 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,720 like you yesterday had to probably switch between English 523 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,680 and Spanish, English and Spanish constantly. 524 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Like as to that, that would get you tired mentally too. 525 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,120 Yeah, I was actually, yeah, I think I had double the amount of 526 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:06,320 interviews because I had to do, you know, all the ones in 527 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,840 Spanish and all the ones in English. 528 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,040 Also, like I do speak fluent Spanish, like I am bilingual, 529 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,480 but it does like my brain, you know, it thinks in English. 530 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,440 So it does still take a little bit for me to get the words 531 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,520 right in Spanish. And also just the switching, 532 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,440 like it's, it's fine when I go to Uruguay and I'm immersed 533 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,120 there and like I'm only speaking Spanish, then it gets easier as 534 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,600 it goes on and I start thinking in Spanish too. 535 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,880 But when you have to keep switching, like instantly, it is 536 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,760 exhausting. And this whole experience has 537 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,800 actually been pretty fun because like, my coach speaks English, 538 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,160 but the Uruguayan federation team, like that's here, they all 539 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,280 speak Spanish. So I have been a little 540 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,960 translator in between. It's exhausting. 541 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,360 I've done that on trips before too. 542 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,800 Yeah, and like. Also for the bottles, for 543 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,040 example, the bottles are like a crucial part of the marathon. 544 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,920 And, you know, my coach is having to talk with the people 545 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,720 on the Uruguay staff that only speak Spanish, and they're 546 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,480 having to, like, talk to each other about, like, where they're 547 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560 going to be for the bottles. And then I'm trying to 548 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,480 translate. Add in the fact that we're in 549 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,360 Japan. So, you know, the instructions 550 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,160 from the officials are also slightly confusing, too. 551 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,000 So that has been a whirlwind. And that has been, yeah, pretty 552 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,760 exhausting, too. So one of the interviews I saw 553 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,720 like I guess from from Instagram that you did was with Paula 554 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040 Radcliffe, right, icon of the sport. 555 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,160 Then you even shouted out just sort of in one of the 556 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,920 interviews, just like looking up to Molly Seidel and what she did 557 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,360 like in the Olympics here. So I guess like who were some of 558 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:37,600 the inspirations for you I guess growing up and even just sort of 559 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,600 like as you have started to pursue your own sort of like 560 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,440 professional running career? Yeah, so I was such a, like, fan 561 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,960 go yesterday because, yeah, Polar reached out to me and I 562 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,520 was like, no, did Paula Radcliffe just send me a 563 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,480 message? I grew up absolutely idolizing 564 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,200 her. So as soon as she reached out to 565 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880 me, I was like, sure, I'll meet you. 566 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,280 Like sign me up. So that that's, that was really, 567 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,960 really cool. And I looked up to her a lot. 568 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,360 And then honestly, when I throughout my career at 569 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Arkansas, I had a fair amount of injuries. 570 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:13,240 And I remember really looking up to Emily Enfeld, which was cool 571 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 because I got to meet her in Flagstaff not that long ago. 572 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,360 But I always thought that her kind of comebacks from her 573 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,880 injuries was super inspiring and she kind of stuck with it. 574 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,360 And, you know, seeing then seeing her win at the Champs in 575 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,440 USA was awesome. So she is definitely another 576 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,360 person I really looked up to. And then honestly, just like the 577 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,120 people around me in Flagstaff, everyone is so driven and they 578 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,640 work so hard. And I think just being 579 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,480 surrounded by, you know, all of those people. 580 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,120 And I think that's that's been pretty inspiring too. 581 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,240 When you bring up like your your collegiate career, I guess like 582 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,360 that's one thing that probably a lot of people were wondering. 583 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080 It's like, oh, it's like, well, she was never like an NCA 584 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,680 champion or had like tons of success at the NCA level. 585 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280 You even mentioned just sort of like taking that year in 586 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,160 California. I think it was like to just sort 587 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,920 of like take a little bit of a break from running and then 588 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,160 finding it again. And so when you made that trip 589 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,400 out to Flagstaff to, you know, visit Chrissy Gear and then kind 590 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,240 of started to connect with this whole side of the sport, I guess 591 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,920 what, what were you telling yourself at that point of sort 592 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,640 of like what you wanted to get out of the sport and taking that 593 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,160 leap to pursue it professionally? 594 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,840 Yeah, so I think so. I'm was in California and that 595 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,840 was after being the NCAA and I have always like loved the 596 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,360 sport. I have always kind of followed, 597 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,280 you know, the track meets. Even when I like, if I was 598 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,960 injured, I still wanted to watch the meets. 599 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,920 Like I've always been a big fan of the sport. 600 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,560 So I think that I, so I knew I wanted to work within, within 601 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,400 running in some capacity too. So I explored the agency route 602 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,200 and I thought I wanted to be an agent and I was really 603 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,800 interested in sports business. I had internships with different 604 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,360 like sports companies and that was kind of what I wanted to do. 605 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,600 So I was like, well, regardless of whether I'm running or not, 606 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,840 that's what I am interested in. So being in Flagstaff, I got to 607 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,200 like, you know, just be so immersed in the running 608 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,040 community. And that's what I really missed 609 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,280 when I was in California because when I was in California, I felt 610 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,600 just so like disconnected from the running world because, you 611 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,320 know, it just, I was working for the West Coast Conference. 612 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,560 I had an internship there, but I was doing like the basketball 613 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,040 coverage and I'm like, I don't care about basketball. 614 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,400 I can't run track and and so then when I got to Flagstaff and 615 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,720 you know, again, I'm surrounded by all these people that are so 616 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,960 like minded, which I absolutely loved. 617 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,040 And then just like being able to go for a run and, you know, 618 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960 socialize while going for a run I thought was awesome. 619 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360 And so I just absolutely loved it there and then. 620 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,680 And then I started racing and the kind of, I never really 621 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,800 thought about running in terms of like a month monetary. 622 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,160 I'm not sure I said that word thing. 623 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,480 I was always like, regardless if I had a job when I went to 624 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Flagstaff, but it was remote. So I was always like, well, I 625 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,360 just want to run regardless of whether I'm financially 626 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,200 supported or not. Like if I have to wake up early 627 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,200 in the morning, so be it like run before work or after work, 628 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,520 whatever, like I'll make it work. 629 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720 And I always just kind of wanted to get the best out of myself. 630 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360 And then the contract kind of came along the way and I was 631 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,920 like, oh, wow, this is like, this is actually happening. 632 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640 And it kind of snowballed from there. 633 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,720 Yeah. So now, you know, you're forever 634 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,520 going to be introduced on the starting line of a race. 635 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,560 It's like world championship bronze medalist. 636 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,400 And it could change a lot of things, right? 637 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,880 Like going forward, you know, probably appearance fees to show 638 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,480 up to these races, World Marathon Majors and like the 639 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,680 spotlight is even bigger. But for you, what are some of 640 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,560 the important things that you kind of want to set for 641 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,600 yourself? Like, even though the spotlight 642 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,320 is getting brighter and you have so many more eyes on you, but 643 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,840 keeping it sort of still fun and as normal as possible. 644 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,280 Like what are what are some of those things? 645 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,520 Yeah. So I think I, yeah, I guess I 646 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,880 want to enjoy it right now in this moment, obviously. 647 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,680 And then being in Flagstaff is kind of great because you're 648 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,720 surrounded by so many other people that have, you know, such 649 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,600 high accomplishments and everything that like you go to 650 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,920 Flagstaff and you're just like another the one like, you know, 651 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,240 it doesn't really matter. So I'm kind of excited to to go 652 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,680 back and just kind of beat me again, I guess. 653 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,320 But yeah, I think moving forward, I have no idea, like 654 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,440 what the next few races will consist of. 655 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,320 I have to get 3 of my wisdom teeth out next week. 656 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:41,200 Wow, That's next on the agenda. But I think that moving forward 657 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080 I would really like to just set more PRS. 658 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,160 I think that's what really drives me is like I like those 659 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,760 kind of more time trialy races and just like seeing how fast I 660 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,000 can run and seeing what I can get out of myself. 661 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,280 So I would really like to run a Foster marathon and then a 662 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,520 Foster Hoff and then eventually maybe do a 10K and hopefully 663 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:07,240 like set some PRS on the track. But I just kind of want to see 664 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,400 what I can do and just go from there. 665 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,320 Yeah, I feel like London will come calling in the spring. 666 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,199 But yeah, it's I mean, the door is not closed to return to the 667 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,639 track. No, I I wouldn't mind going back 668 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:19,880 to the track. I like the track. 669 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,440 I despise Chris Country but. So no world cross. 670 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,000 I don't think so. I really we were considering it, 671 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,840 but I just it's not fun for me. I don't like running on gross. 672 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,520 I never had a good time Whenever it was NCAA cross. 673 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,960 It was just not it. So I do like the track, the the 674 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,679 10K and the five Ki would I would definitely do them again. 675 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,639 I would you know, I still haven't broken 16 officially on 676 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,840 the track. So I would like to do that. 677 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,920 My, I think I set a 5 and a 10K PR in like a like race that we 678 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,000 did leading up to this race, like a random like road race. 679 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,640 So I would like to officially fix that PR. 680 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,400 But yeah, I I wouldn't be opposed to going back to the 681 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,760 track. Awesome. 682 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,760 Well, we're looking forward to it. 683 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,600 You've got so much, you know, just bright stuff ahead in the 684 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,600 future. And this performance is 685 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,680 definitely one of the most memorable, memorable ones of the 686 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,280 World Championship so far. And congratulations once again, 687 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,280 and I'm so excited to see what the future holds for you. 688 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,000 Yeah, Thank you. Thank you for having me. 689 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:27,160 Perfect.