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Kombawa and welcome to CS Mag 
live from the World 

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Championships in Tokyo. 
Chris Chavez joined by our full 

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crew here, Eric Jenkins, Mitch 
Dyer and Anderson Emeril. 

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We've got tons of gold medals 
handed out today and the USA 

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came away with a nice, you know,
good portion of those. 

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We're going to talk all about 
it. 

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But before we get into it, CDs 
Max coverage of the 2025 World 

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Championships is brought to you 
by ASICS. 

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We had our group run this 
morning. 

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We were kind of split as a team,
half of us in the Super Blast 

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and then half of us in the the 
new mega blast that is out 

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there. 
I I like this Anderson, you ran 

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in these today. 
I reckon the Mega Blast, I ran 

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the 800 in the yeah, yeah, yeah,
Cause those were a little more 

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comfortable for I think the, the
800 I did. 

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But then also for the long run, 
those felt good. 

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Those felt real good. 
There you have it, versatile 

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shoe. 
You can use it for workouts, 

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tempos and then of course for 
the long run. 

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Check it out today at the ASIC. 
I had a cool opportunity at the 

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ASICS house to watch Isaac Nader
get his. 

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Well, he got had his gold medal 
there, but they celebrated him. 

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He donated one of these spikes 
to the CEO of ASICS and he held 

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on to one of them, 'cause I was 
thinking about that. 

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It's like you just won the gave.
One shoe away. 

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Gave one and then you hold on to
the other one. 

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CEO is like, I think I'll take 
them both. 

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I gave those to you in the 1st 
place. 

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And in exchange he got like one 
of those cartoon caricatures 

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that they were doing like in the
corner of the house and a pair 

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of lifestyle shoes that are like
a collab unreleased cool moment.

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And then we did a podcast that's
out there. 

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And then after that Mac left, I 
got a massage. 

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So ASICS is taking good care of 
us. 

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Sounds like a pretty good 
afternoon. 

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Yeah. 
Damn. 

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All right, so let's dive on into
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We've let's start with the men's
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You know, having some men's 
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Obviously the storyline around 
this one, Noah Lyles, can he 

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make the ghosts of 2021 
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And he did it with, I mean like 
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You would think that he was 
going to do with ease, but a lot

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of these guys were saving their 
best for the final and we saw it

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be a little bit tighter than it 
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And Noah's second-half of the 
race were always where he 

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shines. 
Came through for him ends up 

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taking the win in 1952. 
Kenny B another silver 1958, 

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this season's best. 
Brian Lavelle 1964 for his first

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individual global medal. 
And the crazy thing about this? 

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Let's see the Tobogo. 
The Olympic champion runs 191965

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left off the podium. 100th of a 
second and he misses the podium.

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I mean, first on no allows like 
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has to me cemented himself as 
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least 200 sprinter after Usain 
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He now has four consecutive gold
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Championships and only Usain 
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And even outside of you know, 
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Olympics, but it's like he's 
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championships in the 200 since 
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And think about all the people 
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through whether it is Kenny B 
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whether it's let's, you know, 
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champion, even Brian Lavelle, 
he's been rising, you know, in 

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previous years, like Ariana 
Knight and you know, all these 

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guys, Andre De Grasse in the 
past, like all these guys have 

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kind of come through the 200 
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couple years. 
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most consistent guy and has been
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event. 
And this was just an immaculated

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display of that. 
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What do you think of Noah's 
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individually? 
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Like, do you feel like there he 
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like, I feel like he was only 
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these. 
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everything was just literally 
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Obviously he got bronze in the 
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season's best there and now he 
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season's best in the semis and 
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final with 1952. 
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Noah had he really came back 
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He basically started the season 
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He missed essentially the first 
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Now he comes here, he takes on 
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So I actually think that he 
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proved like why? 
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right? 
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he's ready for the 
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He's ready when the moment is 
the brightest, when the lights 

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are the brightest. 
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the world champs, being the last
meet of the year that played 

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into it as his advantage because
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be like, all right, I can, I 
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I can rest up, I can heal. 
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September now. 
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podium. 
This was this was pretty big. 

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Eric, one of the things I think 
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start of these World 
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with Noah being so huge into 
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of just really into. 
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Is it anime or is it anime? 
Is I? 

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I think it's it's anime. 
Anime anime. 

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Sorry. 
I I always get that wrong. 

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That was and now it was a train 
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into anime, like he MA that he 
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off the crowd. 
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at the starting line. 
He he's like let out like the 

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biggest war at that point. 
I was like, all right, I think 

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this race might be over. 
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like he's just somebody who 
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off that, like the semi runs 19 
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in the semi, especially if you 
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assume that he's feeling really 
good and that he's got even more

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saves for the final. 
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that He. 
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He. 
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He got challenged and he's still
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It's I love seeing those moments
where the pressures on the 

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lights are the brightest. 
You are the the favorite and do 

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you talk the most? 
All eyes are on you and you 

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still step up and deliver. 
It's a really cool moment. 

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It's it's fun to see him and 
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with all the, you know, after 
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the rivalry, all the talking. 
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I didn't, I didn't see I I went 
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But did they like? 
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Yeah, they were dapped up, They 
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It's seem like it's all good. 
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Shrimp Man was right. 
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They. 
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together or something like that.
I think I, I don't think they, 

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they did a victory lap together.
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missed it. 
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think. 
They're good, they're good. 

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Or at least like, OK for Kenny. 
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because another silver medal 
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This is so this is this is 
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I mean, well, no, this is a an 
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He gets on the podium, you know,
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that he wanted to beat Noah. 
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and it is another silver medal, 
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So he's unfortunately come up 
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last couple meters to try and 
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But you know, he came up short 
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It was a season's best. 
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what Kenny has to do to be able 
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It's like as long as Noah is 
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know, he lost to let's see, last
year, but it's like there's 

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always someone in front of him. 
Kenny's in the femme Kabul 

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position right now where it's 
like there's just he needs all 

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time talent ahead of you, even 
though you're still a very, very

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good athlete. 
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racking up silvers until that 
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Switch over yeah, he needs he 
needs to know what it just focus

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on the 100 and let's see to go 
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It is crazy because like if you 
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and like you're Dennis Mitchell 
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discussing things, you're 
probably at some point, unless 

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you somehow believe Noah is 
going to be in 19319 four shape.

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You probably felt good if you 
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five. 
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but she was. 
He runs 19, five fastest he's 

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ever gone in a global 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
And it's still not enough. 

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It's not enough. 
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especially in the middle. 
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middle part where Kenny was the 
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dominating in Grand Slam track, 
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He won the 100. 
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no in the 200, but that was 
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everyone was looking at him 
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win the gold. 
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saying potentially, you know, he
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definitely people had the 
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But you know, I think it just 
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Kenny, there's just always 
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like you said, he literally ran 
his fastest championship time 

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here. 
And it just so happens that Noah

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ran faster that that's really 
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But kudos to Kenny for being 
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time. 
And I do want to say with Noah 

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and Kenny, the fact that they 
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some people may be questioned 
like, oh, would they be a little

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tired? 
Would they, you know, not 

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perform to their best, But like 
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hadn't even run the 100, right? 
They basically ran fresh. 

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Both of them ran seasons best. 
Both of them took down the 

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entire field like their their 
consummate performance when it 

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comes to the 200 specifically, 
and they just continue US 

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dominance, man. 
All right, so in the bronze 

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medal position, this is huge for
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Brian. 
Lavelle, yeah, the young kid 

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from Jamaica, I thought he'd, I 
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faster. 
Obviously yesterday I was saying

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I think him and Noah would be 
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get a personal best. 
This is the first medal for 

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Jamaica in the 200 since Usain 
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Wow. 
That would be 10 years like 

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Usain Bolt winning gold then. 
That was the last time Jamaica 

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got any medal in the 200. 
So this is this is pretty big. 

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And he's 21 years old. 
He's like on the rise. 

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He he's going to be someone that
Noah Kenny. 

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Let's see, like we're going to 
see this group of guys continue 

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to, you know, go head to head 
over the next couple years. 

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Because he is like, he's, he's a
pretty tall guy, right? 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Bunch of them. 

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It's probably like him. 
Darnell is a little tall, Kenny 

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maybe. 
But like, yeah, Brian is like 

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pretty tall. 
It's like something he's big 

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that. 
That stood out to me because I 

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was like his physique, right? 
Like when you kind of compare it

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to not Bolt was a a freak 
specimen, but like he's really 

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yeah, that he sticks out when I 
when I watch them all come 

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through the mix and I'm like, 
that's a big dude. 

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Yeah, I, I will say the one 
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don't know US. 
So USA 4 by 1, right? 

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We that'll be coming up soon. 
Actually, I think the heats 

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maybe tomorrow. 
But so obviously we have Noah, 

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we have Kenny and then we have 
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Christian Coleman, you know, all
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We may have a good chance to 
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not I know there's question 
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all that, but I'm not sure if 
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running the four by one. 
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some like underlying issues 
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for World relays or something 
like that and like some politics

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going on. 
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zone after the race today and he
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he's going to run the 4 by 1. 
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he's a big factor for Jamaica's 
4 by 1. 

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And if he doesn't run, that's, 
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taken out. 
Who asked the question? 

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You or one of the. 
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one of the Jamaicans who who 
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something that's bubbling for a 
while I. 

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Was wondering it's like if he 
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He says no comment but if he 
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No, it would have said 
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No, no, it was, it was a 
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So I don't know. 
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the baton around, but it's 
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for. 
In in just kind of relay 

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implications from this race. 
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stars in the 400 final wasn't 
dangerous enough. 

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Now we have a fired up. 
Let's see, let the BOGO. 

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Oh, so I'll say also interview 
up. 

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Let's Seeley was injured. 
So he's been doing this. 

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He said that he was injured all 
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right before the race and 
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injury and he still ran in 19 
six, which is crazy. 

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hamstring injury that he's been 
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like active and it's it's been 
something he he just wasn't able

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to push the way that he wanted 
to in this race. 

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Now you run 19/6 and that's like
insane. 

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But he was somebody else asked, 
but he was asked like, OK, what 

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about the four by four? 
And he kind of hinted like they 

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may not need me for the 4 by 4 
because they have all these 

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guys. 
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Believe any of this cause like 
the the stories of him last year

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in the call room. 
That's true. 

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That's true. 
That's true. 

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So what did you ever hear of it?
No, like in the 4x4. 

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Like you're supposed to sit down
like in the order that you're. 

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They order. 
Yep, and he he lined up in a 

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different order and then 
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I like it when they when they 
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talking crap to I think it was 
like Vernon was. 

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Vernon Yeah, against. 
To BOGO. 

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Yeah, in the first leg, yeah. 
The whole entire, I mean that 

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call like that's the if there's 
any call room that deserves a 

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camera. 
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The on the men's 4 by 4 and 
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like you know, had the chance to
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from Vernon and Rye about just 
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the. 
Scenes. 

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So what? 
He's just like playing musical. 

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There's with the Botswana 
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Really awesome. 
Just like joking around and 

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like, meanwhile, America's like 
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right, we gotta get this done 
and then but he's like messing 

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around. 
I love that that's. 

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Incredible mind games. 
He's like, he's like. 

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Troll in the sprints but in the 
best ways that like put loves to

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play mind games. 
So I don't believe any of this. 

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I think that there's an 
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the pre Classic about the injury
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caused him to pull out of like 
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you know, he was feeling and if 
he's so yeah, I I'm not buying 

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this. 
I think that this is all just a 

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a decoy for him to show up and 
blade up against you. 

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Rye potentially in the OH. 
Definitely like again, OK, so 

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then let's see. 
Like has to be like, I mean, he 

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obviously is a troll, but like 
he went into detail again like 

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just now about like going 
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said, Monaco, London, 
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was injured here, I did 
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Like he must be a really good 
liar. 

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He's getting better. 
He's getting better at trolling.

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He's upping his game. 
Could he have trolled you in the

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interview? 
He's also hurt doing all these 

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meets. 
He loves money, so like he's. 

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Yeah, yeah, a lot. 
We all love money, but. 

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And like you asked him, I think 
what was it you asked him last 

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year at just at the diamond, the
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he wasn't winning like very many
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Yeah, I think because Kenny was 
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stuff like that, yeah. 
Well, like you just won the 

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Olympic gold. 
Like what keeps you showing up? 

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He just like goes. 
Yeah, he just like. 

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Yeah, so I mean, he's a 
hilarious character. 

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I think he's going to beat like,
yeah, 4 by 4 is going to be 

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crazy. 
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I think the US has some. 
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both relays. 
So we'll see how that unfolds. 

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What was the question we had 
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or something? 
Like if something came up and we

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were like, oh, Anderson just 
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the perfect person to ask that. 
But it'll come back to me at 

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some point. 
All right, let's shift gears 

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over to the Women's 200. 
Another gold. 

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Another gold for. 
The US and it's Melissa 

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Jefferson Wooden 2168 world 
leading time. 

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Big, big execution all around. 
She becomes the first American 

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to win a world championship 
double in the 100 and the 200, 

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the first ever. 
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Cuz at the Olympics you have 
like Flojo, but at the World 

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Championships, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. 

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Well, yeah, so you have 
Shellyanne did it at the world 

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champs, but at least American 
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the first but. 
Yeah, it's surprising. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
You think it's like in American 

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history with how deep and rich 
like the history is. 

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You think someone has done the 
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It's what a what a cool stat to 
to be the first to do. 

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Because it was Allison was 
always like. 

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She had done the two, four, 
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She had like kind of split. 
You had athletes like, oh, well,

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OK, oh, wait, actually, OK, 
maybe not. 

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Maybe I may be wrong. 1999 
Marion Jones might have done it,

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and I think that might still be 
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Maybe. 
No, she was. 

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Everything was dequeued from 
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OK, OK, that might be scratched 
from the. 

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Books. 
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shout out to Melissa Turperson 
Wooden on our YouTube chat. 

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We'll probably. 
Yeah, some. 

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Well, correct, yeah. 
Melissa was the 1st. 

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So. 
OK, OK, OK. 

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Well, hey, but I mean, like, 
just Immaculate performance from

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Melissa. 
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say, 'cause we did see Julian 
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know, after getting bronze in 
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Julian as the probably the 
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had run 21, seven this year. 
She had done like really well. 

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But I think this performance 
from Melissa proves that she 

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might have just one. 
Regardless, she was dead set on 

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getting double gold. 
She ran 2168 which is like what 

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her PB at USA was 21/8. 
So a drastic drop off from 

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there. 
I think she was ready to win and

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like double gold no matter what.
Might get another gold in the 

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four by one, but this was in a 
dominant fashion. 

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No one else. 
Broke miles, miles ahead of 

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every. 
No one else broke 22 seconds 

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here and from the gun he was he 
was gone. 

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He was gone. 
In the proxy race that we're 

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playing. 
So sort of like, oh, what if 

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Julian was here? 
Like, yeah, this is faster than 

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Julian's PR Julian could have 
also probably PR if you. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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You play these games and like 
the big what ifs, like what if 

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Gabby was also here? 
But I think it's just sort of 

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when someone's hot, like they're
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as long as they can. 
And that's been Melissa all 

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literally whatever, April or 
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she is dominated. 
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track meet in Miami, I think 
might have been the turning 

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point for her when it comes to 
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the 100, that's that was her 
event in the 200. 

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She she finished, I think third 
place in that race, but she said

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a personal best. 
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the click of like, OK, I can be 
competitive here. 

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I can like maybe really dip my 
toes and, you know, make a push 

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towards the World Championships.
Maybe it wasn't a plan already, 

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but at least like on the 
surface, I think she really kind

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of broke out at that my 
immigrants on track meet in the 

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200 specifically, even though I 
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she was close to Gabby there. 
I think Tamara Davis was there, 

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so and then since then it's just
been rolling and I think she's 

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been undefeated in everything 
since then. 

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So yeah, Melissa has been that 
woman this year. 

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All things considered, like you 
look at the all time list now, 

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Melissa Jefferson Wooden moves 
to #8 all time #4US. 

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But that gap between Gabby 
Thomas and Melissa is. 

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Only .0 Wait. 
Oh yeah, because Gabby is a 

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21608. 
Yeah. 

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Like, yeah, Melissa could have 
got close to that to oh. 

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Yes, that's that's true. 
That's true. 

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So yes, Gabby has the shine. 
That's. 

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True. 
Doing it at the Olympics and 

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she's like the Olympic golden 
girl from from 2024. 

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Time moves really fast in these 
sprints events and like now, 

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this was Melissa's year and 
she's got the potential to come 

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away with three golds here. 
I mean like. 

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This would be the like a really 
good rivalry that's taking 

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shape, even though like we 
didn't see, we only saw Melissa 

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versus Gabby, you know? 
At USA slam but then grind the 

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same yeah at. 
USA, as we saw. 

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Yeah, kind of injured. 
So yeah. 

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But I mean, Even so, like we 
were just talking about from the

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women's 100 where like the age 
groups Melissa Jefferson Wooden 

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is still, well, she's 25, like 
she or something. 

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Like she's, I think, five years 
younger than Gabby Thomas. 

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Yeah, so wow. 
Like it's kind of crazy. 

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She has years to go. 
Like, she's might as well just 

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be getting started with her 
career. 

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Like she literally just left 
College in 2022. 

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So she's already running these 
extremely fast times and she's 

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beating out the best women in 
the world right now. 

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I mean, yes, I'm excited for the
rivalry of Gabby versus Melissa,

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but now I'm looking at all 
right, I know Gabby's going to 

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get back back healthy, but 
Melissa might have the 

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opportunity to just like, take 
things over if Gabby isn't 

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careful, right? 
And that's not obviously like 

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Gabby is literally Olympic 
champion. 

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She's one of the fastest of all 
time. 

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But Melissa, to your point, is 
like creeping up there, right? 

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You don't win a world 
championship double against the 

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likes of Sharika Jackson, Shelly
Ann, Fraser Price, even though, 

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you know, some of these athletes
are at different points in their

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season. 
But it's like Melissa dominated 

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this year. 
She dominated like no other. 

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Yeah, Gabby's 28, Melissa's 24. 
I just had. 

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OK. 
So four year difference, yeah. 

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In general, a perfect season for
Melissa and we'll see if you 

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know it could get capped off 
with a four by one medal. 

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It's likely. 
It's very likely, I know, yes. 

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I guess the only thing with the 
USA is they have a new coach, 

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The relay coach, right? 
USA women have are extremely 

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successful. 
They've meddled at every single 

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Olympics in worlds since 2011. 
So they are consistent and 

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they've won the last three gold 
medals. 

448
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,120
But with a new relay coach 
that's, you know, a question. 

449
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,720
I think on paper they're 
definitely like the favourites, 

450
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,880
like by far. 
But you know, who knows, who 

451
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,320
knows? 
I think she's on pace for a 

452
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,480
gold. 
Someone said Marion's results 

453
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,120
from 1999 are still on the 
books, but she didn't even make 

454
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:57,960
the final in the 200 meters in 
1999. 

455
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,400
OK. 
OK, so she didn't do it. 

456
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:01,840
OK, OK, OK. 
It might have been. 

457
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,200
Reminded me what the question. 
Wow. 

458
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,640
This is. 
I love how engaged. 

459
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,040
OK, it's like the like, I forget
what it is. 

460
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,320
We were gonna ask about Donovan 
Brazier doing the four by four. 

461
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,040
What do you think? 
Now. 

462
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800
Now. 
Wait, no, like, really? 

463
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,280
It's that it's fun. 
Yeah. 

464
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,160
OK, well Donovan has run a 4 by 
4 indoors. 

465
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,440
Yeah, 1 indoors. 
OK, well what? 

466
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,360
So has Noah. 
Yeah, that's true. 

467
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:25,800
Well, what did what did y'all 
say? 

468
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Oh no. 
And. 

469
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,480
It was like a. 
It was like we were trying to 

470
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,680
think through. 
Just oh because the USA has been

471
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:35,240
not terrible but they just 
haven't looked good in the 4400.

472
00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:39,880
Well, we're just kind of going 
through like, OK Rye, Vernon, 

473
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,000
Jacory. 
Yeah. 

474
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,400
Like who? 
Who are the four? 

475
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,280
Probably Chris Robinson. 
Chris No, not no. 

476
00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:48,120
Chris Bailey, Chris Bailey, 
Chris Bailey. 

477
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,080
Bryce Deadman is in there. 
Caleb McRae. 

478
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,400
OK, So they don't need Donovan. 
Yeah. 

479
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,840
I mean, wait, how did how did 
Donovan kind of jump ahead of 

480
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:02,720
all these? 
I mean, Donovan, Yeah. 

481
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,600
Yeah. 
I mean, I, I wouldn't put you 

482
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,440
don't risk it. 
I wouldn't against Botswana. 

483
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,280
Definitely not. 
No, no. 

484
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,240
And I I mean, in all respect to 
Donovan, but like, he didn't 

485
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,680
make the 800 final as well. 
You were. 

486
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,520
Saying because it was because he
was fresh, like because he he 

487
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,800
won't have the 800 final, we 
thought that that would be a 

488
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,800
better thing. 
I mean, I, I may pass on 

489
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,000
Donovan. 
Maybe next time though. 

490
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,640
Maybe next time. 
The kudos now to the other two 

491
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,440
medalists here in the in the 200
Amy. 

492
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,440
Hunt, yeah, pulls up 2214. 
I mean this, this was kind of, I

493
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,160
don't know if it was, I guess I 
shocked for a great branch. 

494
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,480
Not if you listen to the podcast
and you've heard Preet just kind

495
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,880
of like sing her praises, like. 
He's been fair. 

496
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,240
I mean, kudos, that's fair. 
He's been on it. 

497
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,800
He's like Amy Hunt's going to do
something special. 

498
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240
And I'm and I'm like, aha, hey, 
funny. 

499
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:53,600
Hey, hey, that was big. 
Yeah, pulling up for silver, Amy

500
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,520
Hunt, she's had an amazing 
season overall. 

501
00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,560
You know, 2214 to get the silver
here beats out Sharika Jackson. 

502
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,760
The two time defending champion 
ran 2218 for bronze. 

503
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,320
I don't know. 
That wasn't, maybe it was a 

504
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,600
little shock she ran 21/9 in the
semis, but she'd been dealing 

505
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,600
with so many different injuries 
and setbacks. 

506
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,080
The interview with her should be
up on the City Smack YouTube 

507
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,320
channel. 
She was just elated to be able 

508
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,440
to get the bronze medal here 
after such an up and down season

509
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,080
and so many setbacks and 
different things like that. 

510
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,080
So yeah, I'm I, I think Sharika 
did well overall, but yeah. 

511
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000
Yeah. 
For Sharika, this is this whole,

512
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,800
this performance is a turning 
point for for her to just sort 

513
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,920
of like she kind of was just 
off, you know, at some of these 

514
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,680
meets. 
Not really. 

515
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,160
Well, I guess you did collect a 
couple victories. 

516
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,880
She did, she did, but they 
weren't there weren't any stand 

517
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,680
out victories, right. 
I I think of like the there was 

518
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,560
a Diamond League in Poland where
Sharika won the 200, but 

519
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,120
Brittany Brown was like right 
there with her right? 

520
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:57,440
And she had won 100 meters at 
one of the diamond leagues early

521
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,560
on and then like 11 seconds 
there wasn't any stand out 

522
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,880
performance. 
That was like, all right, 

523
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000
Sharika is here. 
I don't think she had done that 

524
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,600
until we got to these 
championships. 

525
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,440
But so, you know, for her to get
a a medal, a bronze medal here 

526
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,920
and even in the in this race, 
she didn't even look that great,

527
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,200
especially in like her 
second-half. 

528
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,520
I mean, if you were to break it 
down. 

529
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,720
But I think just overall, 
considering the past two years, 

530
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,880
she's really her getting on the 
podium is a big, big 

531
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,240
accomplishment. 
And that don't bode well for her

532
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,400
future, you know, in the next 
year or two or whatever maybe. 

533
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,960
One thing that I really do like 
about Sharika Jackson is just 

534
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,960
like the level of in the 
standard that she sets for 

535
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,360
herself. 
Oh, yeah. 

536
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,880
So many of these meats like you 
can, you can tell that she's 

537
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,480
like, like, not quite what I 
wanted. 

538
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,800
Yeah. 
And it's like a lot of other 

539
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,680
people would be like, no, that 
would be my PB. 

540
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,880
Celebrate that. 
But because she has achieved so 

541
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,080
much and has sniffed and come 
close to, you know, the world 

542
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000
record, Yeah, it's like she she 
knows she wants to get back to 

543
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320
that point. 
Yeah, and and like even with her

544
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,720
career where she she doesn't 
have an Olympic medal in a 200, 

545
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,600
but you can argue her as one of 
the greatest 200 meter sprinters

546
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,760
in history, not only by times 
but also medals. 

547
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,680
But she's a two time world 
champion. 

548
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,680
So it's like she has this weird 
kind of like relationship with 

549
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,880
the two where she's had so much 
success, but then so many 

550
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520
setbacks. 
But so it's, it's been an 

551
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,840
interesting dynamic for her, but
I think this was a success all 

552
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,120
things considered. 
Where's Jamaica's depth in this 

553
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:26,920
event? 
Because like, it's, it's, it's 

554
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,160
kind of not. 
They did field two other women 

555
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,840
on the team, but. 
Like they should have had four 

556
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,440
cause Sharika had the wild card.
Yeah. 

557
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,840
That I think is the is the 
struggle you have. 

558
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,480
You had Ashanti Moore who ran 
for Jamaica, but she, you know, 

559
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,440
she had Apbi think in the in the
heats. 

560
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,760
But we're not talking about 
previous years where it was like

561
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,440
Elaine and Shelly and Veronica 
and all like all these other 

562
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,760
women who are like literally 
winning gold medals multiple 

563
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,800
times over. 
They don't have that depth on 

564
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,840
the women's side right now. 
Now, I mean, Jamaica finds a way

565
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,000
to, you know, pull up young 
athletes from from wherever 

566
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,640
around the country and turn them
into the Sprint stars. 

567
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,360
But as of right now, on the 
women's side, they they need to 

568
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,880
do a little bit rebuilding, you 
know, especially Tarika's still 

569
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,040
going to be here, but they need 
to do a little bit of rebuilding

570
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,760
when talking about the 200. 
Yeah, because on the flip side, 

571
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200
like the United States, our 
depth is is very kind of crazy. 

572
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,320
A Navia battle, 4th. 
Brittany Brown, 6th, Mackenzie 

573
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,800
Long, 8th. 
Like we? 

574
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,920
Yeah. 4. 
Americans in the final. 

575
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,120
I thought a Navia was almost 
going to get a medal. 

576
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,440
She was kind of fighting in the 
in the last 100, the last couple

577
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,320
meters. 
But yeah, I mean, kudos to the 

578
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,840
fact that we had four women in 
the final and, you know, Melissa

579
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,680
was able to get the gold. 
I mean, that just speaks to that

580
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,560
speaks to not even having the 
Olympic champion here, but still

581
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,440
being able to fill up the final,
you know, literally half of the 

582
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,360
lanes in the final. 
So that was that was big. 

583
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,960
The most that's not even done 
for the season, right, because 

584
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,880
she's she. 
Is she's at baffles, Yeah, yeah,

585
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,640
yeah. 
I mean, I think there would be a

586
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,120
con in. 
Their months, yeah. 

587
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
I'm training. 
Right, Yeah, I, I just think 

588
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840
that'll be like a consolation. 
I saw someone on Twitter say 

589
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,520
like, oh, she can run like 10-5.
I mean, I just think she's 

590
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,880
probably going to show up in 
just like try and win. 

591
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,800
I don't expect anything too 
crazy. 

592
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,920
Yeah. 
I think because we posted a 

593
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,000
Sydney interview that we did 
today after the medal ceremony 

594
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,680
and they asked her about the 
double. 

595
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,720
And then at the very end, 
someone chimed in, like after 

596
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,040
Sydney starts to walk off, 
started screaming, like, what do

597
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,200
you think about the world 
record? 

598
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,160
What do you think about? 
And like Sydney had already 

599
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,440
started walking off at that 
point and then. 

600
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,880
That was a reporter. 
Excuse me that. 

601
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Yeah, yeah, because they said, 
like, you know, Sydney had to 

602
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,640
keep going. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

603
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,080
And. 
So they're like only we're only 

604
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,280
taking a couple questions. 
And this one person was trying 

605
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,560
to get me and Preet to ask what 
about the world record? 

606
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,040
And Preet is telling the person 
like this is a that's a dumb 

607
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,520
question to ask because like, 
she's not going to say anything.

608
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,320
Yeah. 
And then like she was like, no, 

609
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,920
no, but ask it and then. 
Let me tell you how to do your 

610
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,960
job me. 
And pre were just like no and so

611
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,720
we didn't ask it and she had to 
ask it herself and just started 

612
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,720
yelling at and at that point it 
was but. 

613
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,720
Anyway, someone she's like, look
what you guys made me do. 

614
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,880
Someone. 
Someone responded with like, 

615
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,080
would Sydney run the world 
record at world record attempt 

616
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640
in the 400 Athos? 
I'm like, Sydney is going to be 

617
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,280
on a beach in Mykonos in like 48
hours from now, 48 hours after 

618
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,520
the four by four or something 
like. 

619
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000
That yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I 
think and it's, it's all due 

620
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,120
respect, but it's just like, I 
don't think anyone is this the 

621
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,880
World Championships is a World 
Championships for a reason. 

622
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,760
Like people want to peak for now
and then anything afterwards in 

623
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,800
October is like just like, all 
right, let me just, you know, 

624
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,160
enjoy whatever. 
Sure, I don't know. 

625
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Somebody may show up, but I'm 
not expecting Melissa Jefferson 

626
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,360
wouldn't to show up and run 10/5
or I don't know it Like I don't 

627
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,320
know, no. 
No, especially on icons track. 

628
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080
No, that's not happening. 
Yeah, I guess. 

629
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,280
They did just resurface it, but 
I mean don't get our hopes up. 

630
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,000
All right, Anderson, hold tight 
'cause then actually no No 400 

631
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,560
hurdle finals. 
Let's start with the we. 

632
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Could do you want to quickly 
just run through the women's? 

633
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Yeah, yeah, we could very 
quickly. 

634
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,240
Sorry. 
I mean, dominated, like, yeah, 

635
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Femka bowl dominated, you know, 
51.5 I think it was. 

636
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:34,920
I mean, yeah, she, she won the 
gold medal by far by over half a

637
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,880
second. 
Jasmine Jones, shout out to her 

638
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:41,480
5052.08 seconds. 
I think he'd be a personal best.

639
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,160
She did say she of course wanted
51, but she got 4th place at the

640
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Olympics last year, just missed 
the podium. 

641
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Now, after a crazy up and down 
season, I think you interviewed 

642
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,920
her coach and early on and she 
was talking about her injuries 

643
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,480
and all kinds of setbacks. 
And yeah, she had a journey of a

644
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,400
season to, to get here. 
And I, I, I'm AI guess I'm a 

645
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,640
little surprised. 
I think most people may not have

646
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,800
seen her as the top American, 
but she kind of she really did 

647
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,680
step up and show up. 
Everyone probably looked at 

648
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,480
Delilah as as the top American 
given like, you know how US as 

649
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,280
went like the momentum that she 
had there. 

650
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,280
But Delilah later revealed in 
the mix zone that she was 

651
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,280
dealing. 
She had a an. 

652
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,680
Achilles injury after US as and 
then literally just I think she 

653
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,200
said before this or after the 
semifinals she picked up like a 

654
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
groin injury or something and 
she was like, I may not She was 

655
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,520
even I think her team said you 
probably shouldn't step out onto

656
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
a track or making a decision, 
but you know, she showed up. 

657
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,080
She did. 
She took 7th and then Anna 

658
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,600
Cockrell was was fourth today. 
Yeah, but on Delilah as well, 

659
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,400
just like she, she announced 
early in the season that she was

660
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680
going to retire and, you know, 
it was a big thing. 

661
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,760
But now she's kind of like, I'll
talk to my team and see what 

662
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,400
happens. 
So I don't know. 

663
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,040
Well, she, she's like, you know 
what? 

664
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,720
I want the the farewell tour. 
And then I'll change my mind at 

665
00:32:58,720 --> 00:32:59,600
the very end of this. 
Yeah. 

666
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,960
Has anyone ever done like it's 
like a pump fake of like, yeah, 

667
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,840
I'm retiring but actually I'm 
just like. 

668
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600
Does anyone, has anyone ever 
done a double farewell tour? 

669
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,720
Yeah. 
I think Steph, Bruce, I think 

670
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,480
like it was that one time. 
I think like it was part of the 

671
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,080
New York City Marathon 
broadcast. 

672
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040
It did like a retirement 
package. 

673
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,480
And then I think very soon 
after, I think she decided to 

674
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,480
come back. 
But boss. 

675
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,000
But the marathon's also 
different. 

676
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,680
You can run that thing until 
you're 70 years old. 

677
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,480
Yeah, But yeah. 
That's AI mean that's a 400 

678
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,080
hurdles I I think. 
Well, the the bronze medal was 

679
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,240
Emma. 
Emma Zaplettalova from Serbia, 

680
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Yes. 
You've been raiding, you have 

681
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,000
been. 
You've been Duolingoing, haven't

682
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:42,480
you? 
Yeah. 

683
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,280
I've been, I've been getting my,
my Serbian, my Serbian up a 

684
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,200
little bit, you know. 
Nailed the Bosfanian 1 

685
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,800
yesterday. 
Oh, they kept in a shipy, right?

686
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,840
Yeah, I've been. 
I've been working on these 

687
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,080
plants like a race horse. 
Incredible. 

688
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,880
I got a little clingle when you 
said that. 

689
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,840
Can you? 
Imagine, I guess, like that is 

690
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,840
like whoever the TV commentators
would be for the 4 by 4. 

691
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080
Like, you look on paper and you 
see the Botswana names and 

692
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400
you're like, yeah. 
It is actually one. 

693
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,800
It is actually one of the most 
daunting things ever as a as a 

694
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,760
race caller. 
How do you how do you do it 

695
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,360
'cause like? 
Really difficult, yeah. 

696
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,840
You're trying to look at them 
well in advance, but even then 

697
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,600
it's like you're trying to 
phonetically sound them out. 

698
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,960
But when you've got a finite 
period of time to nail it and 

699
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,159
you're trying to remember a 
million other names, it is 

700
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:27,000
tough. 
So good luck to whoever's 

701
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,480
calling it. 
As best as you can but like some

702
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
of these, you know, African 
names like can be can be 

703
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,239
challenging like for me like 
I've been I've been on the New 

704
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,199
York City Marathon brought. 
To you, Oh my God, and. 

705
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,280
Like you'll get Ethiopian names 
that just like are missing 

706
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600
vowels. 
And I'm like, how am I going to 

707
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,760
get through this? 
And so just sometimes you try 

708
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,320
your best, you consult with the,
you know, interpreters or 

709
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,760
whoever they, they have to get 
the phonetic pronunciation on 

710
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,800
paper and then you just power 
through it. 

711
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080
Well, are there any points 
because I know like when you 

712
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,800
have to do calls because you're 
you're like mid race, you got to

713
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,600
like call a name. 
Is there a point where it's 

714
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,200
like, oh crap, like the person 
whose name I'm just not sure of 

715
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,120
is now like moving up. 
I got to. 

716
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,600
Wear to God, it's it's only ever
in the races where it's like an 

717
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,520
impossible name and you you're 
like, oh, I wouldn't have to say

718
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,720
that. 
And then they have like the race

719
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:21,920
of their life and you're like, 
oh boy, here we go. 

720
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,680
My theory is you just you just 
gotta read it off the RIP and 

721
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,280
commit to whatever it is you 
read, because the second you 

722
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,640
hesitate and the second you 
stutter, game over. 

723
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,920
Then everyone knows you don't 
know. 

724
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,160
Apparently you just gotta read 
it, commit, go and deal with the

725
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,880
angry emails actually. 
Even during these World 

726
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,280
Championships, like someone 
noted they didn't want to have 

727
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,640
been in one of the Spotify 
comment sections or something 

728
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,840
like that. 
It's like you guys have come up 

729
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,120
with like 5 different 
pronunciations for like the 

730
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,200
Japanese steeple chasers name 
and I was like mura mura. 

731
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,520
Like there's just so many 
different ones. 

732
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,760
I mean, so if someone could put 
together a super cut if you want

733
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,520
to go through all of our shows 
to. 

734
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,360
But you're, you're nailing it. 
Yeah, you are nailing. 

735
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,960
It I'm not doing live calls, I 
have time to like to read these 

736
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,200
things beforehand, yeah, but 
still. 

737
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160
But who is it? 
The South African one Guy, you 

738
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,480
were just like, oh, that, that 
one's. 

739
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,720
Like, Oh yeah. 
Well, he, he, it's like click. 

740
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,440
He's got the click or whatever 
in his name that like because I 

741
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,400
was interviewing him and like 
you. 

742
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,160
Said like I'm here with and then
you said that. 

743
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,560
Said the name and he. 
Actually, he corrected He. 

744
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,880
Corrected me and I tried to say 
it again and he corrected me 

745
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,640
again. 
And then I was just like, all 

746
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,240
right, Yeah. 
And then I just continued on 

747
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,320
because I was like, I can't. 
I don't wanna. 

748
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,160
That's so cool, I've never met 
someone with the click. 

749
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,880
Yeah, yeah. 
But how do you write cool that? 

750
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,640
Well, let me hear you try it one
more time, man. 

751
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,440
No. 
No, I don't want. 

752
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,960
I don't want something perfect. 
It's coming for me. 

753
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:56,120
Like with the click? 
That's so sick, wow. 

754
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,520
It's it's pretty dope. 
Wow, you're. 

755
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Like not for me. 
You double corrected me so. 

756
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
Then so then when you were done 
with the interview, did you crop

757
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,240
out the the correction? 
I did it I. 

758
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,240
Did it. 
It's. 

759
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,360
Up there. 
So yeah, yeah, yeah. 

760
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:11,720
Go check it. 
Out, that'll fly. 

761
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,360
He got fourth place in the I 
think he got fourth place in the

762
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,440
hundreds. 
So it was one of those 

763
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,760
situations where it's like, 
yeah, yeah, like I don't. 

764
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,240
Have to say that and the rest of
his life. 

765
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,560
But yeah, but yeah, Emma got 
third place. 

766
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,200
She she'd been having a 
progressively, you know, better 

767
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,120
and better season. 
So she just like timed things 

768
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,920
perfectly right now. 
So huge shout outs to get in 

769
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,400
that bronze medal. 
Oh, OK, so Anderson's doing 

770
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,000
great at his homework. 
But Zaplotelova, how do you say 

771
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,120
it? 
Zaplotelova, yeah. 

772
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,760
She's from is from Slovakia. 
Oh. 

773
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,120
Slovakia. 
Oh, snap. 

774
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Yeah, I pronounce. 
I pronounce your name perfectly.

775
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,160
But I'm super sorry, I should. 
Yeah, that should, that should 

776
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,440
outweigh. 
I think I said Serbia. 

777
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Serbia. 
Yeah. 

778
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,440
Crap. 
I'm so sorry. close. 

779
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,320
I hope the. 
SVK and I was. 

780
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000
Like done. 
Serbia crap I hope they don't 

781
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,280
have like any issue like. 
All all they do, all they do all

782
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,680
right. 
It was a rush. 

783
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,240
Of you in quarters or something 
like that? 

784
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Yeah. 
Speaking of wars and countries 

785
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,840
like this was almost one, right?
Here it's 4. 100 hurdles, mainly

786
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,320
because like, I'm sitting here, 
I'm sitting in the media tribune

787
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,760
getting texts from Mitch being 
like Brazil has filed has. 

788
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Filed. 
Oh yeah, it was all. 

789
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Happened filed an appeal yeah 
has filed an appeal and I'm like

790
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,760
what is happening United States 
has protested oh it. 

791
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Was mayhem that all the made and
even like Rye was even coming 

792
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,560
down kind of thing and you could
hear everyone was celebrating 

793
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,120
all the stuff. 
And then this World Athletics 

794
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080
woman just came out of nowhere 
and all this, and the media 

795
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,240
thought she was bringing them to
him, that she's like, by the 

796
00:38:48,240 --> 00:38:52,960
way, he's disqualified. 
If we if we get contacts. 

797
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Before all right, so in this 
one, I mean from the gun, right?

798
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,320
Rye takes off. 
He's out fast. 

799
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,880
He is risking it all, but at the
same time it's not. 

800
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,320
I mean, the the time is the 
season's best. 

801
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Wait, wait, what are you? 
What are you? 

802
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,240
Ryan, 40. 
Six of these two. 

803
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,760
Oh. 
OK. 

804
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Oh, it's season best. 
Interesting. 

805
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,360
OK. 
For some reason I thought he ran

806
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,880
a little bit faster this year, 
but yeah. 

807
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,280
Yeah, no, so, so best 
performance of the year for him 

808
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,840
really. 
I think, I guess how would you 

809
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,600
describe the the backstretch for
him? 

810
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Because he needed to. 
I mean Warholm also got out hard

811
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,800
but stumble it like hit a couple
hurdles. 

812
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,400
He hit a couple hurdles, yeah. 
So Warholm, I think early on you

813
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,080
had AI had a sense that he was, 
he was struggling, right? 

814
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,400
He hit hurdles. 
He usually gets out drastically,

815
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,440
extremely fast, which he did. 
But Rye, Benjamin matched him 

816
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,240
with that speed from the blocks 
and really down the entire back 

817
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:50,520
straight. 
I was kind of looking at Rye and

818
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,680
Carson both clearing. 
I mean, Rye, I'm sorry, Carson 

819
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,360
was hitting the hurdles, but Rye
was clearing them. 

820
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,160
They were about even as they 
went into the the second curve. 

821
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,360
And at that point, that's where 
Rye started to really make a 

822
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,560
move and pull away from the rest
of the field. 

823
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,040
And by the time they entered the
home straight, even before then,

824
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480
you could see Carson was just 
back there and Rye. 

825
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,440
Rye had a massive lead on the 
field entering the home 

826
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,160
straight. 
It was actually really, really 

827
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,520
big. 
And he just like was rocking it 

828
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,120
down the home straight. 
Then you see him clobber the the

829
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,680
10th hurdle like like destroy 
the 10th hurdle and it stayed. 

830
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,280
Up. 
It did, it did. 

831
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,480
But wait. 
No, no, no, his hurdle fell. 

832
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,400
His his hurdle fell. 
But the so oh, the one. 

833
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,640
This is where the controversy 
comes in. 

834
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,000
Yeah, so his like he smashed it 
fell, but then it pushed the 

835
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,600
hurdle on the back up. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

836
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:44,920
Like that was that was that was 
done, but it it also hit the 

837
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,800
hurdle on the lane inside him in
lane 4. 

838
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,360
So that's where the controversy 
comes down. 

839
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,640
But Rye at that point it was 
like, Oh crap, like is Rye going

840
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,680
to fall? 
Is he going to like tumble? 

841
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Like this is really weird and I 
guess obscure, but like there 

842
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:03,480
was a a race in like 20 
something 2013 or something with

843
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,000
like Evan Jaeger. 
He like in the steeplechase, he 

844
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,280
almost broke I think 8 minutes, 
but he hit the last steeplechase

845
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,600
and he fell and that was like 
the one time he had a chance. 

846
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,640
Again, this is like obscure. 
I don't know why, but I thought 

847
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,720
about that in this moment. 
I thought Rye Benjamin was going

848
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:22,720
to fall out off this hurdle, but
he held up and he was able to 

849
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:25,640
get the gold medal in his first 
World Championship goal. 

850
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,720
But this is. 
Become without controversy and 

851
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,920
dramas and that's what we love 
about a World Championships that

852
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,640
somehow the night will get 
interesting and with for Rye, 

853
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,320
the craziest part is like, OK, 
so Mitch is giving us the 

854
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,640
vantage point of the world World
Athletics woman coming into the 

855
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,960
mix zone and announcing that Rye
has been disqualified. 

856
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,440
So as that happens, Rye is on 
the track with the crown on his 

857
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,720
head. 
He's celebrating with the 400 

858
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,480
girls, women so. 
As as you're and I, I want to 

859
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,520
hear like the whole situation. 
But as you're texting, I'm 

860
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520
watching Rye with the flag. 
This is also when the women's 

861
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,520
400 hurdles is going off and 
Jasmine Jones and they train 

862
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,160
together. 
She wins the silver. 

863
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:09,720
Rye is celebrating with her. 
Out there. 

864
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,120
It's crazy. 
And yeah, he so he someone hands

865
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,280
him literally as you're like 
telling us stuff. 

866
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,720
Someone hands him a crown. 
Well, the real. 

867
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,680
Duality of enjoyment there. 
Yeah. 

868
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,600
I was like, what a moment. 
I'm like, yeah, he's getting 

869
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,160
big. 
Good. 

870
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,120
Yeah, yeah, that's just enjoy it
for a moment. 

871
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Did like, so did he ever find 
out? 

872
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,880
Well, yes, he did. 
Yeah. 

873
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, ironically, he was sitting

874
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,560
in the elimination chairs. 
Like the ones that. 

875
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,440
They have on the bubble, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, it was a it was a 

876
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,360
weird transaction in the mix 
night because yeah, what was it 

877
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,600
was like everyone was ready. 
They thought he was coming 

878
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,600
through. 
And this woman's been doing such

879
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,000
a phenomenal job bringing 
athletes to it. 

880
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,920
And she just comes and just 
point blank rips it off. 

881
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,400
She's like, oh, yeah, he's been 
disqualified and all this meat. 

882
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,320
Like, it was kind of funny 
because no one said anything. 

883
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,960
There was a guy in the back. 
He's like, what? 

884
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,440
She's like, yeah, he's been, 
he's been disqualified. 

885
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,280
And he's like, what? 
What for? 

886
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Oh, we don't know yet. 
Like we'll let you know. 

887
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,800
And everyone's like, holy, are 
you serious? 

888
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,320
And I'm like, I got to let the 
guys know. 

889
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,840
And then in my head, I'm also 
trying to upload my own reviews.

890
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:10,920
I'm like, should I be filming 
this? 

891
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,760
I'm like, I can't film this, but
I'll let them know. 

892
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
And then I, I kind of didn't 
anticipate that no one knew. 

893
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,360
And everyone's like, what do you
mean he's been disqualified? 

894
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,520
Like can you get more 
information? 

895
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:19,880
I'm like, I don't know. 
She'll come back. 

896
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,280
Sure enough, like 2 minutes 
later comes back, she's like, 

897
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,920
yeah, he's been like, he's been 
disqualified. 

898
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,720
He hit the last hurdle and that 
hurdle then impeded the lane 

899
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,680
inside of him. 
So therefore he's been DQ D, 

900
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,800
right? 
So then that comes out. 

901
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,160
So everyone's like, oh wow, like
how bad was it? 

902
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,560
Could not have been like 3 
minutes later, then the Nigerian

903
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,000
athlete comes down who was 
forced. 

904
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
And he's. 
Now third and and one of the 

905
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,720
reporters was very astute. 
He's like, I'm just gonna I'm 

906
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,560
I've got to ask him. 
He's like, oh, what do you what 

907
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,240
do you make of the hit hurdle? 
And he's like didn't faze me. 

908
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:53,040
He's like honestly didn't bother
me. 

909
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,520
And and then the guy in the back
is like, that's what I I thought

910
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,000
everyone's like, what the hell? 
And then he's like, yeah, 

911
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,520
they're like, so do you think 
you should be disqualified? 

912
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,360
He's like disqualified. 
No, like it didn't bother me at 

913
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,000
all. 
And everyone was like, OK, man, 

914
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,080
thanks for that. 
Like you can go. 

915
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,800
And he's like, what is everyone 
gonna ask me about coming forth?

916
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,800
Like, whatever. 
Then he walks down, I'm texting 

917
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,920
again. 
I'm like, dude, this guy doesn't

918
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,520
even care. 
Like no one gives a fuck. 

919
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:14,800
And then everyone's like, what 
the hell happened? 

920
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,160
And then you text me like he's 
reinstated. 

921
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,800
I'm like, what the hell is 
happening down here? 

922
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,440
And then it was mayhem. 
It's like after Nathaniel 

923
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,920
Ezekiel comes through the mix 
zone and says that like, yeah, 

924
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,560
that, I mean, like, that really 
didn't make a difference. 

925
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,360
Like. 
But, you know, hats off to Rye. 

926
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,280
I think he was so deserving of 
the gold medal. 

927
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,680
He walks off the interview's 
uploading at that point. 

928
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,720
Then I see Nigeria has filed an 
an appeal. 

929
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,560
I'm like, if this was like a 
courtroom, like, you would have 

930
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,600
just had lost, like, your star 
witness. 

931
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,840
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

932
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,600
That like, like I, you're 
actually guilty and you brought 

933
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,120
him on to the stand so. 
How does how does the appeal 

934
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,920
process work? 
That was my question. 

935
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Jury. 
Yeah, well, like how does 

936
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,840
Nigeria do that without. 
Yeah, insulting. 

937
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,040
Yeah, I know they're going to 
move quick, but like. 

938
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Metals. 
Yeah, it's like, it's like the 

939
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:10,520
but. 
Surely they have someone down 

940
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,520
there they can work. 
Like the like probably the 

941
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,280
German Federation when it's like
Robert Farkin with the 1500. 

942
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,280
It's not like Farkins like we 
need to get coaggity queued. 

943
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:23,000
It's just these, these 
federations, they're making the 

944
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,600
moves without the athletes. 
Yeah, because, but the German 

945
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,040
guys, they're like, yeah, but 
sometimes the German people, 

946
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,880
they come up, but. 
With the German, like he, the 

947
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,920
German athlete came through the 
mix zone and we asked him is he 

948
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,800
filing a protest, you know, like
for coal or against coal? 

949
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,160
And he didn't know. 
He was like, I don't know, ask 

950
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,800
my federation. 
Smart of response. 

951
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Not OK, so I guess he's lying. 
He could be lying, but I it's 

952
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,400
like. 
He's lawyered up. 

953
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,080
He's. 
Like, I know what to do. 

954
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,800
Yeah, he knows. 
How to be a star wit. 

955
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,960
You're asking like, does Nigeria
have like somebody in the mix, 

956
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,640
But Nigeria has. 
No, I know. 

957
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,960
I'm Yeah. 
Literally uniforms like it's. 

958
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,000
Yeah, that's like. 
I've been, I've been dumping 

959
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,320
sweat into the same T-shirt for 
the last 10 days, OK? 

960
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,520
And I don't know what the Hell's
going on. 

961
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,960
Lori so. 
All right, Yeah. 

962
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,200
It took all of three minutes for
the the USA protest to go 

963
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,040
through. 
And then Rye gets reinstated. 

964
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,480
They interview him in the 
stadium. 

965
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,360
And then they're like, they ask 
him like, So what do you think 

966
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:26,480
of the races? 
Like, oh, well, wouldn't have 

967
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,520
been in World Championships 
without a little bit of drama. 

968
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,200
And then like, kind of laughs it
off after that happens. 

969
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:38,280
That's when I hear, you know, in
addition to Nigeria, Qatar and 

970
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,120
Brazil have filed A protest. 
And I'm like, wow, this is, but 

971
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,600
you described it as World War 
three in the mix zone. 

972
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,920
Yeah, it was. 
Yeah, it was. 

973
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,520
I don't know. 
Because then you text that and 

974
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,800
it felt like it was done. 
And then it was like, no, no, 

975
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,840
three of them have teamed up. 
Like, they're like, they're not,

976
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,560
they're gonna leave this laying 
down. 

977
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,640
And then coincidentally, I was 
talking to Alison, to Santos. 

978
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,760
We're chomping it up. 
And because we got to know each 

979
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,560
other pretty well last year, 
having a chat, I'm like, Oh, 

980
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:05,720
yeah. 
Like, what? 

981
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:07,160
What did you make of, like, the 
rise stuff? 

982
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,560
He's like, I don't care. 
He's like, I like, didn't bother

983
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:10,640
me. 
I was just charging on the 

984
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,880
outside. 
Like, I'm just happy to have a 

985
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:13,520
silver sort of thing. 
And then at the same time, I'm 

986
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,160
reading like, Brazil's filed A 
complaint. 

987
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,000
I'm like. 
It's it's the disconnect. 

988
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,000
These guys need to get worded 
up. 

989
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,760
I think it's so fun. 
What? 

990
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:27,280
Are they doing in this scenario?
But yeah, there were so many the

991
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,200
the misinformation that was 
like, not misinformation, but 

992
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,440
just like all the information 
floating around from all of 

993
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:33,680
these different places was 
really funny. 

994
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,200
And so to your question of like,
when did Rye find out? 

995
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,520
The way he describes it, he's 
sitting in the elimination 

996
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,720
chair, ironically enough, and 
he's talking to. 

997
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,080
They didn't get like the medals 
instantly handed to them. 

998
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,800
And they're like, where's our 
medals? 

999
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:52,280
And Allison says to Rye is like,
oh, it's I think there's been a 

1000
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,840
DQ. 
And then Rye says. 

1001
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,680
Rye says of who? 
And then he goes, yeah, wait. 

1002
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,200
Wait, what? 
Yeah, that's in the video of the

1003
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,120
that you sent. 
Yeah. 

1004
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,200
Oh yeah, that's. 
That's crazy. 

1005
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,400
I even. 
Realized. 

1006
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,040
That's kind of funny that 
Allison's when it breaks the 

1007
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,080
news to him. 
Sorry buddy, you're. 

1008
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:15,760
Here. 
No, there's actually DQ. 

1009
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,720
Like being coy. 
I'm gonna need that crown. 

1010
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,160
This is where the story's gonna 
take a turn for you, yeah. 

1011
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,360
Let's. 
Have a seat in the. 

1012
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:27,960
Yeah, take the crown off, Yeah. 
Let me hold this for you for a. 

1013
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,360
Second, let me put that on for a
moment. 

1014
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,000
Yeah, just for a SEC. 
You're gonna want to hear this. 

1015
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,280
Not wearing the plastic crown, 
but it it puts us such a damper 

1016
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,720
on the moment for for rye 
Benjamin. 

1017
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,240
It's like, why don't what? 
Why don't you guys settle this 

1018
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,880
before telling him that he's DQ?
It's like, oh, like just adds 

1019
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,680
up. 
You're DQ. 

1020
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,080
And he's like, seriously, I'm in
a crown on the track. 

1021
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,920
And then 3 minutes later they're
like, never mind. 

1022
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Yeah, actually. 
But there are a bunch of 

1023
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,320
countries out to get your ass. 
And a few of them are I guess 

1024
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,600
are flying, are filing criminal 
charges. 

1025
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,720
So but yeah, you got the, you 
got the golds. 

1026
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,280
It's I, you know, it's just, 
it's, it's so sloppy and messy. 

1027
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,240
You think that it's like there'd
be something like more of a 

1028
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,960
clean process to it? 
Yeah. 

1029
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Yeah. 
The biggest stage in in in the 

1030
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,120
sport, You think you'd get it 
right before being like, telling

1031
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:28,080
everybody that he's TQ, yeah. 
It was also just a funny word of

1032
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,880
mouth. 
It was just this one World 

1033
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,120
Athletics representative who's 
drobies to usher athletes and 

1034
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,880
the last time she's breaker. 
Yeah. 

1035
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,960
And it was just so nonchalant. 
She's like DQ. 

1036
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,240
Yeah. 
She's like, yeah, she's. 

1037
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,600
Like she's gonna feel good. 
Yeah. 

1038
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,560
She's like he's. 
And she didn't even tell the 

1039
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,600
whole media because it's a big 
line. 

1040
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,800
And it was just the first lot of
media. 

1041
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,120
And I kind of just caught it on 
the periphery. 

1042
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,200
And then when the guy yelled 
what? 

1043
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,800
And I was like, oh, there's 
something happening over here. 

1044
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,240
Someone told her they're like, 
hey, don't keep it to yourself. 

1045
00:49:55,240 --> 00:49:56,640
Yeah, yeah. 
She's like, yeah. 

1046
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,080
Yeah. 
Like just whispers the. 

1047
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,720
One person, yeah. 
You guys won't believe. 

1048
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,720
You will not believe it. 
Yeah. 

1049
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,280
Oh Lord, I. 
Mean yeah, so it was very 

1050
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,520
dramatic. 
Rye ultimately I believe has 

1051
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,320
left this. 
No, you don't leave the stadium 

1052
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,280
with the with the medal tonight.
So there's a lot. 

1053
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Probably nervous leaving it 

1054
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,000
behind. 
He's. 

1055
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,520
Like, hold on. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1056
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Like let me take the. 
Nigeria, he's like, we'll take 

1057
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,880
care of it, we'll protect it, 
right? 

1058
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,520
We definitely won't let anyone 
take it, Yeah. 

1059
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,120
Yeah, that was, that was wild. 
But no, no, no, no. 

1060
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,560
No, all I was going to say is 
sorry, where did you guys speak 

1061
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,960
to Caston at all? 
And and. 

1062
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:44,800
I think. 
Carson did I think a 3 minute 

1063
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,440
interview with Norwegian meeting
Norwegian. 

1064
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,880
OK, a few seconds with the 
United. 

1065
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,840
OK, I was going to say, he spoke
in the first mixer for a while 

1066
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,320
and he was saying that he he 
felt something in the back of 

1067
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,640
his knee off the blocks and you 
I wouldn't know if it was cramp 

1068
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:58,800
or an injury or whatever, he 
said. 

1069
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,360
But just second I got off the 
blocks, I just felt something 

1070
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,320
kind of go in the back of my 
leg. 

1071
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,000
And then it kind of played in my
mind and I tried to push and 

1072
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,200
obviously I couldn't push. 
And maybe it has something to do

1073
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,480
with the hitting of the hurdles,
maybe just didn't quite. 

1074
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:12,800
Have the yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So I don't. 

1075
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,480
Know I don't know what it was, 
but he made a a pretty strong 

1076
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,560
point of that a few times in the
mix zone about him picking up 

1077
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,240
something off the blocks. 
That makes sense I. 

1078
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,080
Mean you think about how much 
power and force that dude is 

1079
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,000
into those blocks. 
Like, yeah, but I mean for him 

1080
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,760
with the quote about like the 
Dick measuring contest, like 

1081
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,840
it's not great when you know, 
you end up finishing 5th. 

1082
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,400
Unfortunately, but I mean shout 
out to shout out to rye like 

1083
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,240
gold medal. 
This is his first world 

1084
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:47,840
championship gold medal after 
multiple he's meddled at every 

1085
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,400
single championship suit since 
2000 and and 19. 

1086
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,800
Obviously he got the Olympic 
gold last year, but now he gets 

1087
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,040
the world championship gold in a
commanding performance, right. 

1088
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,800
Like I think at USAS he had said
that he'd been dealing with some

1089
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,720
some setbacks, some injuries and
kind of things like that. 

1090
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:05,480
But now with these champs after 
with some eyes, he was like, I'm

1091
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,120
having fun, I'm good, I'm 
feeling great. 

1092
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,080
So that gave an indication that 
he was ready for for this gold. 

1093
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,280
So and I think even if in my 
opinion, even if Carsten was 

1094
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:18,320
healthy, I feel like Rye was 
ready to win. 

1095
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,400
He was ready to do what he 
needed to do. 

1096
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,280
Interesting question was posed 
in the CS mag group chat where 

1097
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,520
it was like whose career would 
you rather? 

1098
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Rye or Carsten's where Carson 

1099
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,760
comes out and wins the 2. 
The Golds at the very beginning 

1100
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,320
of his career, plus the world 
record, and then now he started 

1101
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,240
to, you know. 
Shift a little bit. 

1102
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,400
Yeah, he hasn't been, I guess 
like, well, what was it, silver 

1103
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,760
last year? 
He got silver last year. 

1104
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,920
Yeah, I mean pretty. 
Damn. 

1105
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,840
Good. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1106
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,760
But in general, just sort of 
like the greatest success is 

1107
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:56,640
tacked onto the first part of 
your career. 

1108
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Versus rye, you know, it was a 

1109
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:03,080
progression filled with quite a 
bit of heartbreak in the first 

1110
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,080
half, but now you're enjoying 
all the success in the 2nd and 

1111
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:07,360
and that's. 
In the later half. 

1112
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,320
Whose whose career would you 
rather have? 

1113
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,280
I mean only and, and we're only 
taking into consideration your, 

1114
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,640
your success in the foreigner 
hurdles because with. 

1115
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,000
Oh, yeah. 
You guys relay medals Like yeah,

1116
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,920
yeah, yeah, he has so many. 
No, I mean, in the four hurdles,

1117
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,480
it's hard to say that like it's 
hard not to take Carson 

1118
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,880
Warholm's career. 
Like he has three world 

1119
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,360
championship golds, he has the 
Olympic gold, he has the world 

1120
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,320
record, he has the third fastest
time all time like he has in a 

1121
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,960
career. 
And even even last year, like he

1122
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,560
said, he has an Olympic silver 
medal. 

1123
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,480
So it's hard not to take his 
career. 

1124
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,200
But Rye is building momentum 
right now where he's he's still 

1125
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,320
relatively young, where he he's 
going to, in my pain, he's going

1126
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,840
to win more gold medals, you 
know, as the years progress. 

1127
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,160
So I, I think, yeah, I take 
Carson's career. 

1128
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:58,200
But if I'm a betting person, I'd
probably take Rye in the future.

1129
00:53:58,440 --> 00:53:59,560
You agree? 
Yeah. 

1130
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,840
Would you take that career? 
I'd probably take, I'd probably 

1131
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:03,320
take Carson's. 
But yeah, to your point, it 

1132
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,400
feels like Ryze is just 
developing towards the potential

1133
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,640
now, so. 
Does this answer change if Rye 

1134
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,280
wins gold at the home Olympics 
in 2028? 

1135
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,160
Oh yeah, probably, yeah, yeah, 
yeah, 'cause like, yeah, at that

1136
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,640
point you're talking about two 
time Olympic gold medalist. 

1137
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,680
He probably at that point may 
have the world record and, you 

1138
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,280
know, like he's he's younger 
than Carson. 

1139
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,840
He's yeah, he'll have a 
momentum. 

1140
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,920
He's now the defending world 
champion. 

1141
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,720
So he'll have a wild card to 
worlds in 27. 

1142
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:32,280
So he won't he won't have to 
worry about, you know, at USA. 

1143
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,800
He's always like, I just got to 
do this. 

1144
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,160
I got to get through this right,
like. 

1145
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:36,960
That's right. 
Yeah, right. 

1146
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Right. 
Probably the like whenever when 

1147
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,480
people do complain about world 
champions getting buys. 

1148
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,440
Yeah, actually, yeah, he's a lot
of this year. 

1149
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,560
Because they only run one round,
Rye is the last person you want 

1150
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,600
to hand that to because he's 
going to take that chance in 

1151
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,840
person. 
Just so, 2027 USA is expected to

1152
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,120
enter just the 404. 100 yeah, 
he'll probably just do the four,

1153
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,240
actually. 
He got breaking news. 

1154
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,760
He said that he next year, 2026,
he's going to be doing some the 

1155
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,720
400 and the 200. 
No hurdles. 

1156
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,720
No hurdles. 
So that'll be pretty 

1157
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:11,520
interesting. 
Like, I don't know. 

1158
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,200
Lends into last night's 
conversation. 

1159
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,720
Yeah, like. 
Switching the past, switching 

1160
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,040
stuff out. 
Yeah. 

1161
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,600
Does he run a lot of two 
hundreds? 

1162
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,040
No, he's I. 
I don't think he hasn't not 

1163
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,240
many, but he's run sub 20. 
I think his personal best is 

1164
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:25,520
19.990. 
Wow. 

1165
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,960
And in that when he was when he 
was in the NCAA, he got third 

1166
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:30,640
place in the 200 indoors one 
year. 

1167
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Like he he's a good 200 runner. 
It's just he's always running 

1168
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,080
the hurdles. 
So I mean, I don't know, we were

1169
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,520
just talking about Sydney and 
obviously she just won a gold 

1170
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,600
medal. 
I'm not saying Rye's going to 

1171
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,480
like completely switch over and 
win a gold medal, but like, I 

1172
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,800
wouldn't be surprised if he 
drops like 19-8 or 19 seven at 

1173
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,840
some point. 
And he's like competing with 

1174
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,360
these guys and the 200 for real 
on the circuit. 

1175
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:53,800
Yeah. 
Right Watch Sydney last night. 

1176
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,280
I was like, I want to do that 
right. 

1177
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,800
I mean it to, to be fair, like 
we did talk we we talked about 

1178
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,200
this with Rye in Budapest. 
I think when we did our show 

1179
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,280
with with him there, it was sort
of like or even in Eugene, it's 

1180
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,440
like you would crush it in the 
400. 

1181
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,640
Why don't you ever why don't you
do that? 

1182
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,760
And what he said at the time was
like, I feel like that'd be like

1183
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,200
giving up. 
He's like that's post Tokyo. 

1184
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,040
He hadn't won a gold medal yet. 
And I think like now that he's 

1185
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,240
checked both those boxes, it's 
like probably a little bit more 

1186
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,120
of a consideration. 
It's like I've achieved the 

1187
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,600
thing that I've wanted to for a 
long time. 

1188
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,360
I mean this remember, this is 
the place that you know, I think

1189
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,400
like emotionally broke him crazy
so much in in 2021 and like 

1190
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:39,160
today for the outcome to be 
flipped. 

1191
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,800
Beautiful story. 
I guess like with with coach 

1192
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,520
Joanna Hayes too, like she was 
in the stands in like that same 

1193
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,480
day, just as devastated. 
And today, like they show her on

1194
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:49,480
the broadcast. 
She's going. 

1195
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,120
She. 
Was in the mix zone saying that 

1196
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:54,640
like he could have broken the 
world record. 

1197
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,800
She was like breaking down the 
stats and like his touchdown and

1198
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,160
all that like and she was she 
was saying like I feel like the 

1199
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,040
world are have happened. 
He does think that, like, 

1200
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,800
obviously if he hadn't hit that,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the time

1201
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,200
would have been a little bit 
faster. 

1202
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:13,840
And so, yeah, I mean, amazing, 
amazing job by Red Benjamin 

1203
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,640
today. 
And then kudos in the bronze 

1204
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,440
medal position to Dermont Samba.
Samba, Yeah, been in the game 

1205
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,960
for a long time. 
For a long time. 

1206
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Finals. 
He, he has a bronze from 2019 

1207
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,240
when the world champs were in 
Doha. 

1208
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,960
So he, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
He, he's like had a, a big 

1209
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,520
comeback. 
He's been dealing with injuries 

1210
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,200
and all that. 
So I'm, I'm curious, what did, 

1211
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,200
what did Allison say as you were
speaking with him? 

1212
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,400
Well. 
It wasn't much of A formal 

1213
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,120
interview, I'll say that. 
It was very, it was very like 

1214
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,240
Knockabout. 
But I mean, he was, he was 

1215
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,280
really happy. 
I mean, he's a generally just 

1216
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,440
like one of the happiest guys 
ever. 

1217
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:53,560
Does this give him the set? 
Now, yeah, he has gold in 2022. 

1218
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,800
What was he in Budapest? 
He didn't medal there, he was 

1219
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,400
injured and then he doesn't have
a silver. 

1220
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Yeah, he only has gold and then 
he has Bron 2 bronzes from the 

1221
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,960
Olympics and he was too young in
previous years so. 

1222
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Yeah. 
So yeah, now, now the silver. 

1223
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,880
Well, yeah, so technically he 
has all medals, but just I 

1224
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,600
couldn't. 
Remember what? 

1225
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,680
He came in Budapest. 
Yeah, he was injured, so he 

1226
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,120
didn't. 
He didn't get on the podium. 

1227
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:18,040
I mean, I got the sense he was 
very happy and look, he ran a he

1228
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,720
ran a great race. 
There was AI didn't think he was

1229
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,360
gonna catch Rye, but he was 
pushing real hard over that 10th

1230
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:24,600
hurdle. 
Obviously you get a bit of a 

1231
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,240
lift when you see the person in 
front of you. 

1232
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Crash into the hurdle as hard as

1233
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,400
Rye did. 
But yeah, he was obviously 

1234
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,160
fantastic at the start of the 
year. 

1235
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,360
He had a brilliant start to 2025
and I didn't really see too much

1236
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,880
of him or I didn't track him all
that much through the year. 

1237
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,600
But one thing's for sure, every 
time he comes to a major 

1238
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,000
healthy, he's going to be a 
threat and he's he's going to be

1239
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000
on the podium. 
He's he's done at a considerable

1240
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,640
amount and he himself in this 
era of the we'll call him the 

1241
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,360
big three, he's the other big 
three. 

1242
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,800
He's putting together a pretty 
tidy resume too. 

1243
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,440
So I mean, obviously he doesn't 
have the level of golds that 

1244
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,240
these two have, but. 
He's younger than both of them 

1245
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:04,760
by a couple of years. 
Exactly. 

1246
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,240
Like really young. 
Yeah, he's really young. 

1247
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,040
Yeah, because he had that 
success in Eugene and Olympics. 

1248
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,040
He was so young. 
Yeah, yeah, the big three, it 

1249
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,280
looks like they're going to hold
on for. 

1250
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,240
They got a while, Yeah, the rest
of the cycle. 

1251
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,560
I thought that for there was a 
chance that one of them would 

1252
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,240
fall off after Paris, but now 
they're. 

1253
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,160
They're they're good, yeah. 
All right, wow, an incredible 

1254
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:33,320
race that men's 400 hurdles and 
I think that's it for sprints, 

1255
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,600
right? 
Thank you really quick because 

1256
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,600
you are jumps guy. 
Oh yeah, was was apparently 

1257
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:40,720
insane. 
Probably that was. 

1258
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,520
Yeah, that was that was a a wild
competition where, you know, you

1259
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,120
had a a lot of back and forth, I
think like. 

1260
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,040
But Pedro Pichardo, right, he 
was able to to pull through to 

1261
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,040
get the gold medal. 
He is. 

1262
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,800
He's been here forever, like 
literally forever. 

1263
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:02,120
He medaled in 2013 at the World 
Championships, got silver, Yeah,

1264
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,680
in Moscow, which is crazy and. 
But yeah, now he comes back. 

1265
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,720
He was injured throughout most 
of the year. 

1266
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,560
He had jumped. 
I think he only has like 2 

1267
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,440
competitions before this, maybe 
two or three this year. 

1268
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,600
But he was able to get a clutch,
you know, gold medal. 

1269
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:17,880
But he was pretty consistent 
throughout. 

1270
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,440
And then I mean, he was silver. 
I don't have the results. 

1271
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,080
Della oh from from Italy della 
Ballet. 

1272
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,120
So yeah, he came up, he was kind
of a, a sleeper, wasn't really, 

1273
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,080
he wasn't really making too much
noise throughout 2025, but he 

1274
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,640
really has a clutch, clutch 
performance and a big personal 

1275
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,280
best to, to get the silver 
medal. 

1276
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,240
And then Lazaro Martinez, he was
a like, he's also another Cuba 

1277
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,520
has so many different athletes. 
There was actually technically 3

1278
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,760
Cubans in this final. 
Pichardo is Cuban and then also 

1279
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,040
Andy Diaz Hernandez is Cuban. 
But, you know, they Cuba also 

1280
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,200
loses a lot of its athletes to 
other countries. 

1281
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,440
But Lazio Martinez, 1749, he 
comes up for the bronze. 

1282
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,840
I mean, this was just so many, 
so dramatic throughout. 

1283
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,880
You know, you have six round 
jumps where it's like changes 

1284
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,760
guys moving up like this was 
this was big. 

1285
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,080
So yeah, good triple jump 
competition overall. 

1286
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,600
Where? 
Where did he jump in the end of 

1287
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,320
win? 
Was it 7898 or something? 

1288
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,680
1791 that's yeah, which is 
crazy, that's big. 

1289
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,880
And again, Pichardo has been in 
2000, 2013, he got the silver 

1290
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,640
medal at the world champs, 2015 
he got silver at the world 

1291
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,320
champs and he jumped 18 meters. 
Then he's the Olympic champion 

1292
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,720
from 2020. 
And actually on this track in 

1293
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,920
Tokyo, Olympic silver medalist 
from last year. 

1294
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,560
Like he is 1 athlete who has so 
much longevity, very similar to 

1295
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,320
Christian Taylor from the United
States who Petrado had like a 

1296
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,600
lot of battles with. 
So Petrado is, you know, he'll, 

1297
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,600
he'll go down as one of the 
great triple jumpers for sure. 

1298
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,120
That was the first event Matt 
mentioned to me and I came in 

1299
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,960
tonight actually. 
He was like, man, it's just in 

1300
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,640
that triple jump. 
So it it actually had everyone 

1301
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,880
by the grip. 
It was. 

1302
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:58,840
Good. 
It was good. 

1303
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,200
Cool to watch up up close to 
those guys. 

1304
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:02,920
Yeah, it was. 
It was real good, Real good. 

1305
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,680
All right, Anderson, thanks for 
all your updates. 

1306
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:12,800
Pulling it down all right 
distance boys, let's move into 

1307
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,440
we had some semi finals actions 
and then the men's 5K heats. 

1308
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,680
Let's touch on the semi finals 
of the women's 800 first, 

1309
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,640
because they're actually were a 
couple surprises. 

1310
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:30,720
First heat. 
Mary Moore running 158 is 

1311
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,400
probably like the best showing 
that we've seen from her in a 

1312
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:35,280
bit. 
That kind of instills a bit more

1313
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:39,960
confidence and like iMac and I 
at the before this championships

1314
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,560
were like, I don't know how much
of a factor she's going to be. 

1315
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,320
It's the Keely show, but I'm 
starting to think a little bit 

1316
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,400
more about Mary Maura and I 
think Georgia Bell is as well. 

1317
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,200
Georgia Bell was right there. 
They hugged a really long hug 

1318
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:58,640
after the race and Georgia was 
just kept looking at the the the

1319
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,920
scoreboard and or the time board
and I was just like, I, I, I bet

1320
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,120
she's also just thinking like, 
oh, OK, like Mary is is back 

1321
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:12,680
because it was looking like what
Hodgkinson Ware, Oh, Georgia 

1322
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,280
Bell. 
We're going to be like the the 

1323
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,200
top three contenders. 
And then you had ACU Deguma. 

1324
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:22,600
We'll get to her in a second. 
But in this one, yeah, your your

1325
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,520
top two were were pretty 
expected, I would say. 

1326
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,680
Yeah, for sure. 
I mean, it's it it, it's not 

1327
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,480
open and shut sort of final that
you would have expected. 

1328
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,760
But those two are just a class 
above really in that semi now. 

1329
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,760
There was a little bit of 
jostling, I think, I think for 

1330
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,360
Georgia, if I'm remembering 
correctly, like she positioned 

1331
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,000
herself pretty well, but she had
to work a little bit harder. 

1332
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,680
But yeah, I mean, they they both
look good. 

1333
01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,920
When you looked at the semis, I 
was like that's going to be the 

1334
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:52,480
1st 2, so they got through 
pretty clean. 

1335
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,880
Careful with the word jostling, 
that's what gets you DQ 

1336
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,800
nowadays. 
No, creating an opening when 

1337
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,400
there is no opening is what gets
you DQ, not jostling. 

1338
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:04,360
Jostling's part of the sport. 
Eric, any takes from from He won

1339
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,560
or was it pretty? 
I thought it was all pretty 

1340
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:11,240
standard favourites got through,
they ran pretty fast. 

1341
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,800
Mary Moore does look looks 
better than than she has. 

1342
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:21,600
And yeah, it's definitely giving
those those shades of her when 

1343
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,360
she when she won George on her 
belt. 

1344
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,000
She looks good. 
She looks comfortable out there.

1345
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,160
She's always got a very strong 
clothes, even in the 8 where a 

1346
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,600
lot of times it's just people 
hanging on trying to dye the 

1347
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,360
least. 
And Georgia does have the kick. 

1348
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,760
We'll see if she has a kick and 
it's able to get her under the 

1349
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,280
podium and a good color metal 
that she wants. 

1350
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,160
But yeah, I think I think for 
the most part, these eight 

1351
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,800
hundreds, these semis just kind 
of went according to plan for 

1352
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,760
everybody who thinks that 
they're a factor in this race. 

1353
01:04:54,760 --> 01:05:00,960
Yeah, in the only really cool 
part about Heat 2, which was 

1354
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:08,800
awesome race final stretch last 
100 meters, he had Sage Hurdle 

1355
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:14,680
Klecker clawing her way past the
likes of Halima Nakai and Siga 

1356
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:19,240
Deguma to snag 4th place, which 
but in a very fast race. 

1357
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:23,160
So Lillian Odira takes the win. 
So that's back-to-back Kenyan 

1358
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,440
semi final victories. 
Audrey Weiro right there. 

1359
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,160
I mean, these those were 
expected. 

1360
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,440
Jess Hall, who made it through 
after falling in the first 

1361
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,520
round. 
Val, I mean, PR validates just 

1362
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,680
sort of just like, yeah, she's 
going to be a factor here. 

1363
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,840
National record, right? 
National record, yeah. 

1364
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,680
National record, Yeah. 
What a what a great race from 

1365
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,520
Jess. 
He was giving me shades of Dave 

1366
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,600
Waddle early. 
Just just went off the back of 

1367
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,960
the pack. 
But like if you what if, because

1368
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,080
obviously I'm watching it so 
closely tactically, it was 

1369
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,840
actually so brilliant because 
she obviously knows she can't 

1370
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,720
start quite that hot, but when 
they're starting to bunch up and

1371
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,480
find a spot, she just rolled 
straight around and. 

1372
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,520
Kind of got to the front. 4:50 
to go. 

1373
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,120
She just, she just just. 
Rolled right on the shoulder. 

1374
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,080
Yeah, right into into perfect 
position. 

1375
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,840
It was awesome to see and then 
she just had to hold on and I 

1376
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,640
and obviously that 1500 meter 
strength showed through. 

1377
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,040
Maybe not having to run a full 
800 the day before at pace kind 

1378
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:22,480
of helped. 
She didn't have dead legs 

1379
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,080
necessarily from running a hard 
heat. 

1380
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,760
She had to get up from the fall 
and did what she had to do to 

1381
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,240
finished the race so that she 
could protest and get put 

1382
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,760
through to the semis. 
Smart. 

1383
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,920
Yeah. 
High IQ. 

1384
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,720
High IQ operate super happy for 
say shorter collector like, 

1385
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:41,960
yeah, this was an athlete that 
you know, has been fighting to 

1386
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,520
make these US teams and now she 
she makes the team, comes in, 

1387
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,280
gets through to the final in a 
pretty gutsy way. 

1388
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:55,480
So happy for her. 
The the and yeah, the the lone 

1389
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,280
American in the final. 
Wow. 

1390
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,440
So that's that's big. 
Making the most of the 

1391
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,000
opportunity. 
Taking the most of the 

1392
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,440
opportunity, Audrey Vera is it. 
Is it where I think is? 

1393
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,080
It Verreau, I said. 
Verreau, Yeah. 

1394
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,760
Verreau Yeah. 
So Audrey would have got it. 

1395
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,760
Audrey Verreau it like this is 
this final is shaping up because

1396
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,720
she's she runs hard from the 
front. 

1397
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,000
She's very tall. 
She probably looks like she's 

1398
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,280
tough to get around. 
And Hodgkinson is also someone 

1399
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,480
who likes to run from the front.
Same with Mary Mora. 

1400
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,600
Like, this is these are all 
front runners who like to 

1401
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,760
dictate the race on their own 
terms from the front. 

1402
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,640
I don't really. 
Yeah. 

1403
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,880
Know how this is going to you 
look. 

1404
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,320
Great. 
You look great. 

1405
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,080
Yeah. 
And the thing to remember about 

1406
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:44,760
Vero is that Swiss national 
championship, she soloed a 156 

1407
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,840
from from the front by herself, 
no pacemaker. 

1408
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,960
So she's got that fitness and 
then runs faster in the Diamond 

1409
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:56,480
League final that yeah, I guess 
she might feel more comfortable 

1410
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:00,240
trying to sit on on Keely. 
Keely. 

1411
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,480
Her plan last year was she was 
the fittest of the whole bunch. 

1412
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,400
And just like you can get, she 
made the big move and no one to 

1413
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,800
gap the whole the whole field at
the Olympics. 

1414
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:13,600
I don't I think it's much 
closer. 

1415
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:15,480
I think everyone's a bit more 
compact here. 

1416
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,920
You guess Keeley, you know, 
dropped that 154 earlier in the 

1417
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:24,600
season, but at a championships 
like this after two rounds, it 

1418
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:30,439
could be a bit closer. 
Yeah, and, and just side note on

1419
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:35,600
like where we said OK, Mary 
Moore emerges as more of a 

1420
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,640
threat. 
One big threat was eliminated 

1421
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,160
when Siga Deguma gets passed by 
by state trader Clecker. 

1422
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:44,600
So like, if you're Georgia Bell,
you say like, yeah, you're like,

1423
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,160
thank you. 
Like you got one. 

1424
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,560
If one just popped up, you just 
took out another big one. 

1425
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,479
So yeah, and then he 3 was the 
Keely show. 

1426
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,840
Keely wins that. 
One interesting move is going to

1427
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,080
Sarah Mora, who finished second 
from Kenya, had KT tape all over

1428
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,200
her leg. 
And yeah, I was, I was confused 

1429
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:05,160
by this one. 
Yeah, because. 

1430
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,120
She got wheeled off, got. 
Wheeled off. 

1431
01:09:07,359 --> 01:09:10,120
Yeah, they made an incredibly 
hard move, PB. 

1432
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,040
And then could not get up off 
the ground. 

1433
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,120
And so they they picked her up 
and then took her off the track 

1434
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,399
like it was not as she was not 
taking off as she didn't. 

1435
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,439
I love the the NFL injury 
reports where it's like he 

1436
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,279
walked off on his own accord and
it's like she did not walk off 

1437
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:28,680
on her own accord here. 
Yeah, no, First off, never a 

1438
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:32,399
good sign in my opinion when 
you're just completely covered 

1439
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:33,040
in time. 
It was. 

1440
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,960
Like the woman in the 200, Too 
False started on purpose. 

1441
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:41,319
Yes yeah, that so it's just it's
that's never a good sign. 

1442
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,840
I think you shouldn't wear Kate 
don't even wear KT tape. 

1443
01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:55,040
But but she made such a hard 
move to she had secured her spot

1444
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,800
and then really fought tooth and
nail to kind of like almost beat

1445
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,400
Keely to the line. 
So you you think, OK, you're 

1446
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,880
looking good, you and you must 
feel good. 

1447
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:10,840
Otherwise why do that just to 
immediately, you know, fall to 

1448
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,080
the track? 
I wonder if if it was genuine, 

1449
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,680
if it was something that, I 
mean, it was obviously something

1450
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,640
she was feeling before the race 
because she came in with a whole

1451
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,360
roll of KT tape on her 
hamstring. 

1452
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:25,320
But I wonder when, when she'll, 
you know, when we'll know if 

1453
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,520
she's going to be into the 
final. 

1454
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,280
But it didn't look great. 
Well, that's the thing. 

1455
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:31,840
So what? 
So when do you get to make a 

1456
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,400
call? 
Like if hypothetically I should 

1457
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,840
know this but if she woke up 
tomorrow morning and was like 

1458
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,920
can't race do they then? 
Bring in the. 

1459
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:40,880
Yeah, what? 
What's the? 

1460
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,640
The next person from this heat 
or do they bring in? 

1461
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,960
Oh, good question. 
Yeah, yeah, 'cause. 

1462
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,040
I'm what? 
What? 

1463
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:49,280
How's it? 
Work she would have got through.

1464
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,240
Do they do they leave a lane 
empty? 

1465
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,600
They probably do that because 
like if it's the next person 

1466
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:59,080
from the heat, it's an ace 
bourgeois from from France. 

1467
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,600
If it's just the next fastest 
person, then Siga de Guma says 

1468
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,080
oh, you thought it was gone, I'm
back. 

1469
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,800
I bet it was on the next fastest
person. 

1470
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:06,680
It would it would. 
It would have to be. 

1471
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,320
It would have. 
To be the next Yeah from the 

1472
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,760
heat. 
Yeah. 

1473
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,840
And then I always kind of think 
about this because like at do 

1474
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,240
you have to make those 
decisions? 

1475
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:19,720
Like they should know now, yeah.
Right, there should be a rule, 

1476
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:20,000
right? 
That's. 

1477
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,000
What I'm saying, is there a time
where you shouldn't? 

1478
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,480
You shouldn't. 
There shouldn't be a lane left 

1479
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:27,160
open in an 800 meter final at 
the World Championships, 

1480
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,680
especially when it's It's not 
like a one of these other races 

1481
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:34,640
where there's lots of entrance 
and it's it's there's eight. 

1482
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:38,840
Yeah. 
And it's like if you have, if 

1483
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:43,080
you crumple to the ground at the
finish line in the semis and you

1484
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,080
and you kind of wait until like 
the very last minute to say, I'm

1485
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,240
not going to be in the final and
you take away an opportunity for

1486
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:51,960
somebody else, I don't know, I'd
see like there's that shouldn't 

1487
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:53,240
be the case. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1488
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,680
I thought about this because one
time I guess like, boy, back in 

1489
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:03,440
like 2013 USA's, I remember 
crossing paths, you know, 

1490
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:09,320
athletes who were eliminated 
from like the semifinals of like

1491
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:16,080
the 800 or something like that. 
And out drinking, partying and 

1492
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:18,240
drowning their sorrows from 
getting eliminated. 

1493
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:20,360
And then one of them learns 
like, Oh no, actually like 

1494
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,960
you're going to get put through 
to the next round. 

1495
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,200
It's like, well, you just 
ruined. 

1496
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,000
Like my night. 
Well, one my night is ruined, my

1497
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:26,880
race is ruined. 
Yeah. 

1498
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,520
So it's like you, you should let
people know before they're 

1499
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,920
hitting the bars and drowning 
their. 

1500
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,160
On that, sorry, I just I've got 
the YouTube thing up. 

1501
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:37,840
Someone just commented they've 
been what World Athletics has 

1502
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:44,720
been doing is the first person 
out has been it's still warming 

1503
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,240
up and getting ready. 
It's like in. 

1504
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:49,080
Case yeah, and I shouldn't 
notice because Rowan Browning 

1505
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,760
did this for the 100 and he was 
the first guy out and then that 

1506
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,200
he went and did the full warm up
and they made him sit in the 

1507
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,320
call room and they're like yeah,
if someone doesn't come you're 

1508
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,360
running and and he was like well
this even more. 

1509
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:02,480
Weird. 
That's what I mean. 

1510
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:03,800
Yeah, I'm not. 
It's like I. 

1511
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,280
Don't know what I'm doing here. 
Nervous. 

1512
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,960
Yeah, yeah. 
And it's like, oh, you're, 

1513
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,360
you're running. 
I think you should have until I 

1514
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,400
would say like 8:00 AM or, you 
know, eight, Yeah, 8:00 AM 

1515
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,000
tomorrow morning. 
It's like give yourself 

1516
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,960
overnight to try and ice, 
recover whatever you need to do 

1517
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:20,040
to to be OK. 
And if by then you're not ready,

1518
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,320
then the next person comes in. 
Yeah, you're, you're like, dude,

1519
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:27,400
do I have my Raisin Bran or do I
start Downing this Morton 

1520
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:28,120
bicarb? 
Right. 

1521
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, that's and it. 

1522
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,960
I mean what this the idea of 
like warming up without knowing 

1523
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,280
right. 
Because so much of like the 

1524
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:42,760
adrenaline and the nerves are 
what fuel great performances a 

1525
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,520
lot of time. 
And if you're just kind of on 

1526
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,680
the fence and until the very 
last moment, it's going to be 

1527
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,760
very tough to get it up enough 
to have that big type of 

1528
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,680
performance that you're looking 
to have. 

1529
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,360
But at the same time, it's like,
look, you didn't make it though.

1530
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,680
You didn't really qualify in the
way that someone should qualify 

1531
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:05,240
or like. 
So it's it's one of those things

1532
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,440
where like a beggar can't be 
choosers type of situation, but 

1533
01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:11,760
it is it is interesting for 
sure. 

1534
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,400
Yeah. 
So do we have a prediction on 

1535
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,200
this one? 
I think Keely still wins. 

1536
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,840
Yeah, yeah. 
I think it's like you can't say 

1537
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,320
you can't. 
No, nobody's looked as good as 

1538
01:14:22,440 --> 01:14:27,080
Keely, even with with her short 
season and but. 

1539
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:34,760
I really like Baroque I. 
Think I think, yeah, how I'm 

1540
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:39,080
totally, I think Vero is, is 
going to be tough to beat. 

1541
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,160
And I also think Georgia Hunter 
Bell is going to is going to end

1542
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:46,240
up there somewhere. 
So man, it's I think it's going 

1543
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,640
to be fast. 
I think that's I think that's 

1544
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,560
for sure. 
I think since they all like to 

1545
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:58,920
run fast and my, my, and maybe 
it sets up to be slow because 

1546
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,280
everybody thinks it's going to 
be fast and, and that's kind of 

1547
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,520
sometimes how it goes. 
But I wouldn't be surprised if 

1548
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,840
you know, you see the 1:55 again
from Keely or somebody else and 

1549
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,360
or or faster, who knows. 
Who do you think gets to the 

1550
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,160
front? 
Yeah, right. 

1551
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,440
Like cuz that's gonna be. 
Like there is 3 front runners. 

1552
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,760
I could see, I could see Keely 
sitting on, I could see them 

1553
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:25,560
pressing hard out of the out of 
the off the gun and Keely like 

1554
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,640
settling onto the shoulder of 
somebody like it could be a 

1555
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:36,000
Varro or Mary Maura and then and
Keely sit and sitting right on 

1556
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,600
the shoulder. 
How long do you want to sit for 

1557
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,840
before? 
Like a four, probably 400. 

1558
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:46,720
I think that's AI think I think 
that that would be that's a a 

1559
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:50,800
safe game plan, like sitting on 
the shoulder, not on the rail 

1560
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,680
out of trouble and then making 
one decisive move and then 

1561
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,960
everybody else. 
You know, I think Georgia Hunter

1562
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,080
Bell will be somebody that will 
move late, right? 

1563
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,760
It seems to be like 150 to go, 
100 to go. 

1564
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,400
Here comes Georgia Hunter Bell. 
I think you'll see something 

1565
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,440
like that again, but man, it's 
going. 

1566
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,000
To be great. 
It's going to be great because 

1567
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:15,640
that you could. 
I'd be shocked to see Keely at 

1568
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,360
least like anywhere lower than 
second. 

1569
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So she's ending up there and 

1570
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,400
then, but other than that, it's 
like it there, it could be a, 

1571
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,240
there's so many contenders that 
could be there. 

1572
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:30,400
Because this world championship 
is being filled with so many 

1573
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,280
surprises. 
Today was actually the first 

1574
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,120
day. 
I think that mostly felt like. 

1575
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,920
All right, Yeah. 
Like from like the little D, the

1576
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:41,360
DQ drama, all that stuff like 
results wise and performances 

1577
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,400
was like, OK, yeah, yeah. 
Today made sense. 

1578
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:45,360
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1579
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,440
Is Jess the only one to make 
both finals? 

1580
01:16:48,440 --> 01:16:51,560
We were trying to figure this 
out, who the last woman to make 

1581
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,600
both finals was. 
Yeah. 

1582
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,320
Trying to think if like like a 
Laura. 

1583
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,200
Yeah, but she was the only one 
to make both finals here. 

1584
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:01,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That's what I thought. 

1585
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,920
Yeah. 
Wow, Jess. 

1586
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,800
Like when people were singing 
the praises of like, Hobbes 

1587
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,720
Kessler last year, he didn't 
make the 800 final. 

1588
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,640
He reached a semi. 
So like, yeah, I mean, I guess 

1589
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:14,600
like, Jess kind of, yeah. 
Makes that a little bit more. 

1590
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,480
Clutch This is her first year 
running it too. 

1591
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,960
Yeah, I know. 
She's like, she's her 800 chops 

1592
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,920
are just getting up so much 
better. 

1593
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,600
Yeah, I would love to see her 
run in the 50 Sixers. 

1594
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,200
I mean, she was confident in the
interview. 

1595
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,120
She was like, I actually think 
I've got a little more. 

1596
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,720
So she was, she was very happy 
with the. 

1597
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,680
Especially without I think it's 
just, it's something about just 

1598
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:35,200
you're gonna need to get more 
comfortable. 

1599
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,680
Yeah, I used to need you need 
more reps you need to practice 

1600
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,640
it more. 
The way that she's moved around 

1601
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:44,240
that field with, you know, 4:50 
to go coming up in the bell lap 

1602
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:47,960
was a was a move by somebody 
who's very who's getting more 

1603
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:52,480
comfortable and savvy at this 
type of level in the 8. 

1604
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:56,320
So yeah, I, I think it's, it's 
just about doing it more and 

1605
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,440
also it's just going to benefit 
her 15 more, right? 

1606
01:17:59,440 --> 01:18:01,600
She's got the strength of the 
5K. 

1607
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,720
She's the 2K world record 
holder, right? 

1608
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:09,200
So it's, it's now she's going to
work on something that most 

1609
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,840
people would have thought is, is
like her weak, weaker events. 

1610
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,200
And then it's like it's, it's 
just going to bode well for her 

1611
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,840
future and her main event. 
Yeah, yeah, her and her dad were

1612
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,520
big on that field. 
Is 156.28. 

1613
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,400
The average season's best of 
this field is 156.53. 

1614
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,160
So it's like, that's so. 
Fast. 

1615
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:30,360
I feel you that like the event 
is at an all time high this all 

1616
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,560
the athletes who are showing up 
to this or at basically most of 

1617
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,320
them probably ran their PB this 
year as well. 

1618
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,800
So it's going to be a barn 
burner. 

1619
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,760
Yeah, for sure. 
All right. 

1620
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,240
That was the women's inner major
semi finals. 

1621
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,600
And then the last thing we need 
to touch on today is the first 

1622
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,960
round of the men's 5K because a 
couple heavy hitters were are 

1623
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:58,520
out First one had Cole Hawker up
towards the front of the race 

1624
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:02,760
controlling it for the most 
part, it's this this first round

1625
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,600
is not something that you end up
taking wire to wire, but Cole 

1626
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,760
positioned himself up towards 
the front on the rail, you know,

1627
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,920
from the get go. 
Isaac Camelli gets the win. 

1628
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,120
Matthew keeps saying from Kenya,
Cole Hawker, Niko Young, Kye 

1629
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:21,160
Robinson, Hey Gus Gebruwet, Mike
Poppin and then Etienne Guy 

1630
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:26,920
Gunos or so. 
It's the top 8 advance first man

1631
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,680
out Andreas Omgren, the fastest 
man of the year. 

1632
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,960
I mean, that's really the only 
that's really like the big name 

1633
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,680
that's out. 
Like Lobalu has run fast Nordus.

1634
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,120
Nordus get dropped. 
Nordus, yeah, but I mean the 

1635
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:41,760
fastest man of the year. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1636
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:42,960
He's the biggest man. 
Yeah, he's the. 

1637
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,880
Biggest man of the year. 
So like he's a guy and he just 

1638
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,360
looked shot, right? 
He looked, he just, he looked 

1639
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:55,000
tired clearly, because otherwise
I really thought it for the most

1640
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,640
part is business as usual. 
Similar to the women's A. 

1641
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,800
It's like, of course you're 
going to have when you can only 

1642
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,600
get a through and he, he, 
there's going to be big names 

1643
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,720
that are out because it's just 
big names at this event or in 

1644
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:12,240
this meet. 
The second heat they lost Niels 

1645
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,240
Laros, who made it 4100 meters 
and then. 

1646
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,880
What happened there? 
I mean, he looked like he's 

1647
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,360
looked hurt. 
Yeah, something. 

1648
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,640
Did he get hurt in the run or? 
Like something. 

1649
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,720
Yeah, OK. 
Yeah, immediately so. 

1650
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,000
I saw him on TV hopping. 
Immediately fell out, but it 

1651
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,680
was. 
Like he was struggling to find a

1652
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,440
way to hop off. 
Never. 

1653
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,440
It's like, I've never done this 
before. 

1654
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:32,520
Yeah. 
And he, he, he. 

1655
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,160
Get in the rail. 
He left the track in quite 

1656
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,520
possibly the most destructive 
way for everybody else. 

1657
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,680
Yeah, He's like, I'm, he's like,
I'm just gonna stop, hit the 

1658
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:43,240
brakes. 
I'm just gonna hit the brakes in

1659
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,440
the front. 
And then everybody's just like 

1660
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,480
kind of, I didn't navigate 
around him. 

1661
01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:51,560
Yeah, but no, like, go to going 
back to the first heat. 

1662
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:55,320
Cole Hawker looks fantastic. 
I thought First off, all the 

1663
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,040
Americans threw, but I like the 
way that Hawker looked. 

1664
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:03,400
We saw him do this in the in the
5K at USA's where he goes out 

1665
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,720
and takes the takes the lead, 
but he doesn't really push. 

1666
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,360
He doesn't push it super hard. 
He's just he's running at a 

1667
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,400
comfortably hard pace enough to 
stay out of trouble and I'm sure

1668
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:18,080
he's he's thinking more about 
that now after getting DQ D in 

1669
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:22,480
the 15. 
But he I mean he's really set 

1670
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:25,520
the pace. 
They ran 1313 pretty fast. 

1671
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,080
Maybe not for these this the 
standard that they're at now, 

1672
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,080
but much faster than the than 
the the second heat. 

1673
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:38,960
And but but they he when 200 to 
go 100 to go when the moves were

1674
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:42,520
being made to see who's going to
be the ultimately the ones 

1675
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,400
through the final. 
He just shifted gears super 

1676
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,360
easily, like the gears. 
It was it's clear that and it's 

1677
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,080
not he wasn't close to, you 
know, gear one. 

1678
01:21:51,440 --> 01:21:58,880
He's he's just this is it's got 
it's and the way that these 

1679
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,680
races have been so far, at least
on the men's side, they haven't 

1680
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:08,400
been blistering right. 
And so if it's at all slow, the 

1681
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,040
dude's going to be a factor for 
certain. 

1682
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:11,840
Nico Young looked great, ran 
tactically. 

1683
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,600
Not he too, but yeah. 
Would they Would they close out 

1684
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,480
in 225 two? 
25. 

1685
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,600
Yeah, that would that. 
And once they started winding 

1686
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,560
up, you just saw the path of 
destruction behind them. 

1687
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,560
Yeah, the top 8, we're pretty 
clear. 

1688
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,720
And then Almgren was like the 
one fall off from that, that it 

1689
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,560
was a big casualty there. 
He is struggling. 

1690
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:36,760
Benyamihari is the 18 year old 
Ethiopian talent. 

1691
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,720
I'm I, I. 
I like this guy. 

1692
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:39,960
He looks good. 
Yeah. 

1693
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:44,400
And like, I think that there's a
high likelihood he he he was 

1694
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,000
sixth, I think at the Olympics 
or something like last year. 

1695
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:51,560
He's having such a great year. 
Could put it together on the 

1696
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,000
right day. 
Jimmy Gressier. 

1697
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,280
Jimmy G You look good. 
Yeah, that's look good. 

1698
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:58,840
The double. 
John Galt was the one who 

1699
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,840
tweeted that there's only two 
countries with three men in the 

1700
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,760
final. 
It's France, and it's the United

1701
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,280
States. 
Like, that's kind of wild. 

1702
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,320
You'd think it'd be Ethiopia, 
Kenya. 

1703
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:09,920
Nope. 
Not the case. 

1704
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,520
Grant Fisher makes it through, 
finishes 6th in the heat, but 

1705
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:18,520
everyone was kind of bunched up.
And then lots of eyes on Yaka 

1706
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:19,520
Bingo. 
Britson who? 

1707
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,920
Pushing to the line? 
Yeah, pushing to the line. 

1708
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:26,200
Takes the last one and yeah, 
eight. 

1709
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:33,040
He was 42.15. 9th was Golvier 
Singh, who's right next to 

1710
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,200
Neil's Laros. 
When the whole thing was 

1711
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:40,520
happening, 42.34, it was tight. 
Even Jakob had a little sigh of 

1712
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,200
relief just before right when 
the result popped up on the 

1713
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,600
screen that he's like, all 
right, like made it through. 

1714
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,400
It's so hard to think like, is 
he going to be a factor? 

1715
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,200
I mean, it's it's it's tough to 
say that he's going to be a 

1716
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,840
factor just based off how he's 
looked in so far, you know, 

1717
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,720
doesn't make it out of out of 
the first round of 15 barely 

1718
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:07,160
makes it through in the in the 
5K. 

1719
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,320
So it's tough based off that to 
say, Oh yeah, he's he's going to

1720
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,600
be a factor. 
But it's Jaco Bingo Brits. 

1721
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:19,360
So it's like, I'm never going to
say this guy has no shot because

1722
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,080
he's one of the best of all 
time. 

1723
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:23,920
So you can't you can't count him
out. 

1724
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,360
But just based off the two times
we've seen him hit the track so 

1725
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:33,880
far, he he just hasn't he hasn't
quite looked like his best, but 

1726
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,280
you never know the way that 
these guys are running it. 

1727
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,160
Like I'm thinking about Grant 
Fisher. 

1728
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:43,960
You kind of saw him do more of 
like what his tactics have been 

1729
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,280
in the past where he he kind of 
did was winding it up a bit to a

1730
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,840
couple laps out. 
He hits the front, starts 

1731
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,840
putting the hammer down. 
The guys behind him have to 

1732
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,320
react. 
And you know that I'm not sure 

1733
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:58,840
what his his strategy will be 
going to the final. 

1734
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:03,000
But all three Americans through 
all of them look great. 

1735
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:10,640
And so it's it's I don't really 
know, like what the I don't, I 

1736
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,320
don't see anybody necessarily 
taking it, making it a hard 

1737
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,520
race. 
Certainly not Jakubinga Britson.

1738
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:21,440
But yeah, you got to like how 
everybody's looking going in. 

1739
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,320
Yeah, Jacob posted on his 
Instagram. 

1740
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,360
How are your nerves? 
Not exactly smooth sailing, but 

1741
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,080
stormy seas make stronger 
sailors. 

1742
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,960
Time to recover and see how far 
the wind can take us on Sunday. 

1743
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,080
He's on that quote grind a lot. 
He's looking for that one to 

1744
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,200
land. 
He's not writing his cash, 

1745
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,400
whoever his social person is, 
like really good work. 

1746
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,240
It's just it's very fun to 
imagine. 

1747
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:44,800
You don't think he can? 
I think he can. 

1748
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,360
Whip that up he can whip that up
you. 

1749
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,280
Think that's him I know like. 
He I mean, I mean, I know it 

1750
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,320
might not be, but he he could 
have the jobs, right? 

1751
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:59,160
Yeah, I know. 
I I like it's we've talked about

1752
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:02,000
it before, but it's Jacob 
couldn't. 

1753
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,400
It's awesome that he just, he 
came here, so many people we 

1754
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:06,600
talked. 
About this. 

1755
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:11,320
With Jake earlier yeah 100% 
would have not come right like 

1756
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:15,640
you're you're as big as you are 
as good as you are and to come 

1757
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:19,200
in when you're not 100% be 
vulnerable and then lose races 

1758
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:23,320
that so many egos so many 
people's egos when you're at the

1759
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,600
level that he's at wouldn't have
been able to handle it. 

1760
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,240
And so the fact that he's able 
to just come in there and be 

1761
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:34,120
like, look, here's where I'm at.
It's it's you got to tip the cap

1762
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:36,280
to him. 
I mean, everyone, I'm a big 

1763
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,800
Yakob fan, so I hope he does 
well. 

1764
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,440
And so cool. 
It's just fun to see him race 

1765
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:44,320
even when he's not at his best. 
Yeah, 100%. 

1766
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,840
I agree with that field. 
Has been assembled for the 

1767
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:56,040
final, but we we can we can look
at the names and if you're, you 

1768
01:26:56,040 --> 01:27:00,680
know, Team USA coach Eric, how 
do you draw up and you coach all

1769
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:05,440
three of the the the athletes. 
What's your what's your plan for

1770
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,240
Cole? 
What's your plan for Nico? 

1771
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,440
What's your plan for Grant? 
And how, how are they all 

1772
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,160
different for I guess like I 
want to say, let's say the win 

1773
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:18,520
and then a metal could be it's 
the same plan. 

1774
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,200
I think Cole, I think Cole will 
and should do something similar 

1775
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,200
to what he did at USA is in kind
of what he did today where he's 

1776
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,960
going to hit the front for a bit
and just kind of run, not hard, 

1777
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,840
but he's just going to be in the
front clicking along. 

1778
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,040
Now he's done it twice. 
Do you think like a hey, goes 

1779
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:40,160
Gabourete or Binyamahari says. 
Like, we can't let him do that. 

1780
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:44,640
I could. 
Well, I, I don't think, I don't 

1781
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:48,280
think they've, those guys 
haven't raced against him a 

1782
01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:50,120
whole lot. 
Like I think like Gabriel, 

1783
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,600
Gabriel Wet knows a guy like 
Grant Fisher, right? 

1784
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:56,080
And and he he he was raced 
against Grant a lot and he's 

1785
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,680
like this guy. 
He is a threat. 

1786
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,480
I he might he he I'm not sure if
he knows how much of A threat 

1787
01:28:03,480 --> 01:28:08,560
Hawker is, but I just like the 
way like Cole looks good running

1788
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,560
in the front, not all out and 
just kind of being being there. 

1789
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:20,240
And then if just be out of out 
of trouble 200 to go connected 

1790
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,480
to the pack, connect if you're 
connect, if Cole's connected to 

1791
01:28:23,480 --> 01:28:28,480
the leaders at all and he is 
able to kick. 

1792
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:34,080
But his last 150 is, you know, 
arguably the best in the world. 

1793
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,240
And so if he can manage to do 
something similar to that in the

1794
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:40,720
in the final and he's close. 
I mean, man, he actually can get

1795
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,520
a gold medal. 
Grant Fisher like his tactics, 

1796
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,360
they're his strengths. 
In my opinion, were stretching 

1797
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:49,920
it, stretching it for hard last 
1200 hard last K. 

1798
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,000
It could be even farther. 
But if his leg, depending on how

1799
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,800
his legs are feeling, if his 
legs aren't feeling great, he's 

1800
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,320
like, look, I'm a bit tired 
feeling I'm feeling this long 

1801
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:04,600
year, then this that that 
stretch is going to be way 

1802
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,280
harder. 
And so that might not be his 

1803
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:09,040
best moves. 
And Nico Young is a guy that is 

1804
01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:12,040
he's also has a really good 
kick, but it's just different 

1805
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:16,480
than than Kohl's. 
I I wouldn't it'd be tough since

1806
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,960
I'm coaching all three of them 
in this scenario. 

1807
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:23,200
So I'm not sure, you know, if 
I'm a coach and I have a 

1808
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,280
favorite, maybe I'm giving them 
different strategies. 

1809
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:29,800
But yeah, they've all got 
different strengths, but they 

1810
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:33,280
all have very good closes. 
And it's, it's just about being 

1811
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,520
in the right place and not and 
not getting boxed in, not 

1812
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:41,760
getting, not letting the pack 
get to get a hold of you, get a 

1813
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:43,840
hold of you. 
Because I you're going to see a 

1814
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,640
guy like Debra Wet make a hard 
move at some point. 

1815
01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:51,840
Usually it is pretty far out and
it's just a bit too far out for 

1816
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,680
him. 
Signature move, signature move 

1817
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,880
is he just kicks regardless of 
where he kicks from, it's about 

1818
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:02,360
100 meters too early. 
And so it's it's be ready for 

1819
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:03,880
that. 
There's going to be he he might 

1820
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:08,280
gap the field very quickly and 
that. 

1821
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:10,360
And so it's it's just being 
aware of that. 

1822
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,880
I I don't know who's going to be
the one, if there is one, to 

1823
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:18,760
make it a very fast race, but. 
I think yeah, I didn't. 

1824
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:22,080
I don't know if it's super fast 
to be honest. 13. 

1825
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:29,280
And Max gut check of the three 
Americans, who is who? 

1826
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,720
Who am I picking of the three 
Americans? 

1827
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:35,440
To like who do you feel best for
a medal of those 3? 

1828
01:30:38,440 --> 01:30:39,920
You know, I think that you 
would. 

1829
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:44,440
I think most people would say 
would think, actually, I don't 

1830
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:49,520
even know if that's true, but 
it's like Grant and Nico are the

1831
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,640
experienced 5K guys and I, I 
think a lot of people would say,

1832
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,120
well, it's got to be one of 
those guys, right? 

1833
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:58,080
It's they've run 1244 this year.
They've this is not. 

1834
01:30:58,200 --> 01:30:59,520
Going to be a 1244 race, it's 
not. 

1835
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,640
Going to be yes, it's not going 
to be a 1244 race, but it's 

1836
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:06,920
still like, well, Nico's the is 
the 10K champion and Grant has 

1837
01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:11,120
is a double Olympic medalist in 
this in in from last year in the

1838
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,400
distance events. 
So it's got to be one of them. 

1839
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:19,000
But I would think with how Colt,
with how Cole looked in not just

1840
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,520
in the USA is in the 5K today in
the opening round. 

1841
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:28,120
I'm sure he's running with a a 
huge chip on his shoulder from 

1842
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,920
the 5K. 
And he people have been saying 

1843
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,840
from inside, from the guys that 
know him and they're in his camp

1844
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:37,000
that he's some of the things, 
the fittest he's ever been. 

1845
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:40,360
So you don't want to leave this.
You don't want to leave this 

1846
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:44,880
week in Tokyo with with nothing 
to show for it. 

1847
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,240
So I'm sure he's going to be 
running with that extra fire. 

1848
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:54,640
So it's a it's a toss up, right.
If I, you know, I don't, I 

1849
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,720
really couldn't pick who's who's
who is has the best shot to 

1850
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:00,800
meddle. 
What about if you're following 

1851
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:06,520
the trend of men's finals? 
Who's the Smokey that could pop 

1852
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,360
out and win it? 
Because my Smokey to pop out and

1853
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,000
win. 
It could be the Brit George 

1854
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,120
Mills. 
Good. 

1855
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,880
I like that, Yeah. 
This is a guy who's broken three

1856
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:19,840
national records this year for 
the UK and he's he's run 3/28 

1857
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:23,880
for the 1500s from 12:46 for the
5K. 

1858
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:27,800
He was fantastic in the early 
parts of the Diamond League and 

1859
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:32,960
just the way just he's someone, 
he's a dangerous runner in this 

1860
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,480
like he's stay out of his way 
first and foremost. 

1861
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:39,840
He showed and he he will get you
to the yeah, he will get you to 

1862
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,680
the ground if he wants to get 
you to the ground. 

1863
01:32:41,680 --> 01:32:44,120
He almost took the Ethiopian. 
Out they had They exchanged some

1864
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,840
good words after that finish 
line as well. 

1865
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,520
If he watched it, he was talking
to him, but Harry turned around 

1866
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:49,440
and he's like, what are you 
doing? 

1867
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:52,160
And then he was pointing at him 
being like, run through the line

1868
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:52,880
basically. 
You don't. 

1869
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,160
Point in Japan. 
I think, I think Mills could be 

1870
01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:57,800
a guy. 
I think Mills could be a guy 

1871
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,360
that hits the front a couple 
laps out and starts grinding. 

1872
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:02,840
Yeah. 
Starts just squeezing it down. 

1873
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:06,800
Because he is has incredible 
strength and yeah, he's got 1500

1874
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:11,320
meter wheels, but does he have, 
does he have a Jimmy Gressier 

1875
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,080
kick? 
Well, yeah, and he got he did 

1876
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,800
burn in the Olympics last year. 
But just thinking, well, maybe 

1877
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:21,600
Jimmy Grassi is honestly, he 
looked great. 

1878
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:24,080
The World Beta Jimmy Grassi 
world. 

1879
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,800
Beta. 
Jimmy Greste comes out. 

1880
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,400
Look at that guy. 2 gold medals 
at the World Championship. 

1881
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:36,040
Would be unbelievable. 
The French Mauferra. 

1882
01:33:36,160 --> 01:33:37,640
Yeah, that would be 
unbelievable. 

1883
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,920
I saw a video of him the other 
day and I don't know what cross 

1884
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,560
country resident was. 
It must have been Euro cross 

1885
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,160
country years ago. 
Well, he slid and then there was

1886
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:48,240
another one where a guy gave him
a sandwich and with 50 minutes 

1887
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,560
ago he takes the sandwich and 
then as he crosses the line, he 

1888
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:51,960
eats the sandwich. 
It is sick. 

1889
01:33:52,480 --> 01:33:54,400
I would love like what is he? 
Where he? 

1890
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,320
Actually blew it on on his cell.
Was that the slide? 

1891
01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:02,200
Yeah, he almost, he almost like 
Torti like blew both of his ACLS

1892
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,400
on the celebration that didn't 
quite hit and he battled back 

1893
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,440
from that and still did other 
ones at at at XC. 

1894
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:10,200
Keep going. 
Yeah. 

1895
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,240
Yeah, there's a there's a world 
where this guy can win. 

1896
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:15,640
Of course, he just won the other
day. 

1897
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,280
Yeah, cheaper. 
You're talking about the 10K. 

1898
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,880
World champion? 
Yeah, there's a world. 

1899
01:34:21,480 --> 01:34:23,040
Champion I'm still getting used 
to. 

1900
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,960
It the world. 
Champion my sneaky pick. 

1901
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,960
Is it sneaky to pick a 1245 guy?
Benny Amari. 

1902
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:32,880
I don't think it's that sneaky 
of a pick, no, I think. 

1903
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,720
He's the favorite in. 
General the average PB, I like 

1904
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,280
looking these up. 
It's just like, OK, the whole 

1905
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,080
field. 
How how fast are they average 

1906
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,720
for the season, for their 
careers? 

1907
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,680
The average PB of this field 
1249. 

1908
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,760
Average season's best 1253. 
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's the quick

1909
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:51,840
field. 
The level that the 5K is at. 

1910
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,960
Yeah, and if the USA sweeps, I 
don't know what the hell we're 

1911
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:02,240
going to do on this show. 
Let's yeah, if the if the USA 

1912
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,600
sweeps, I don't. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1913
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,520
I don't. 
Sit out there as a potential if 

1914
01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,920
the. 
Okay, yeah, it's out there. 

1915
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:11,400
I can't even. 
Yeah, sure, it's out there. 

1916
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,480
I would like to know what you 
I'd like to know what you guys 

1917
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:15,880
would do. 
You should put a bet out there 

1918
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:17,720
now and just in case it does. 
Happen to it? 

1919
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,280
If. 
Like I think Korea, I think if I

1920
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,960
think if the USA sweeps and 
someone gets someone else's name

1921
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,720
tattooed or something like that.
They don't do tattoos here in in

1922
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,400
Japan, or at least over the 
longest time. 

1923
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:28,760
You know, we don't have to do it
on Sunday. 

1924
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,520
No, we'll find a Yakuza member 
and we'll figure out how to get 

1925
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:37,640
a tattoo for Grace. 
All right, that does it for day 

1926
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:44,640
seven of the World Athletics 
Championships. 2 left. 2 left is

1927
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:45,920
that yeah. 
This is the weekend. 

1928
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:48,560
This is the weekend, yeah. 
Nice. 

1929
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:53,680
Karaoke places are open, but we 
don't have the energy because we

1930
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:57,160
need to rest up for another full
day tomorrow. 

1931
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,840
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1934
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,240
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1935
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:12,800
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1936
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,600
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1937
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,000
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