1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,760 All right, Chris Chavez live here in Tokyo with Anderson 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,120 Emerald, and we are joined by world championship bronze 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,520 medalist Grace Stark. How's that sound? 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,760 I guess like it's been 48 less than less than 48 hours I guess 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,680 since it all happened and now that it's going to be attached 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,320 to your, to your name forever. Yeah, it's still, you know, 7 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 like, shocking to hear. I'm just so happy to be here and 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:23,880 get the bronze medal. Yeah. 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Well, I wonder what it was like to finally cross the line 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,680 because you've been working to get to this moment for a little 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,480 bit. Like, did you feel like an 12 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,520 initial weight off your shoulder or just like, Oh my gosh, like I 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,320 did it. Oh yeah, absolutely. 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,600 Like Paris, you know, it was my first one. 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,920 And then indoor was really challenging, not coming away 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,080 with the metal. So this one I wanted to leave 17 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,720 here with at least a metal. So, you know, finally doing that 18 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,120 was like a big weight off my shoulders. 19 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,880 I heard you describe it as like the Denzel Washington meme. 20 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Yeah. That I'm leaving here for 21 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,000 something. Yeah, the the quote that he 22 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,880 says. That's what I was feeling when I 23 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,840 got to the start line, Like I'm leaving here for something. 24 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,640 This year in in general, I guess like because so much of your 25 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,920 story is tied to the injuries, like in college, but then you've 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,880 had this really good stretch of being healthy. 27 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Like what do you mostly attribute all of that to? 28 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Yeah, I think just my fitness and the training that we've been 29 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,040 doing and all the people around me, the coaching, the athletic 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,640 trainers, the other trainers, I think me being healthy was a 31 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,440 little bit of a struggle at the beginning of college. 32 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,280 And then we thought we got it right. 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,120 And then I fell and broke my leg. 34 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,240 So I was like, oh, well, this is a freak accident, even though 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,560 she has been injured in the past. 36 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,520 So I think just this good couple years of being healthy has 37 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,040 really helped. What's the biggest thing you 38 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,800 learned from from kind of that period where I mean there was 39 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,880 just so much adversity in in that comeback, but for you to 40 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,480 kind of understand like what it takes to put in the work to get 41 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,400 back to where you were and then I guess at this point level up. 42 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,240 So I mean, what were the biggest lessons from from that down 43 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,240 point? Yeah, I stay faithful, stay 44 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,040 patient. I'm not the most patient person. 45 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,440 So, you know, I just really wanted, like, my career to take 46 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,720 off at that point, and I thought it was heading that way. 47 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,880 So, you know, to fall and have like a free accident and be told 48 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,400 that your career is probably over was really tough to hear. 49 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,760 But, you know, Coach Holloway never gave up on me. 50 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,520 My friends and family never gave up on me. 51 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,160 And I relied on God a lot. Why? 52 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Why do you say you're not the most patient person? 53 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,760 What does that look like? I feel like I have high goals 54 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,000 and I want to achieve them as quick as possible, so I feel 55 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,480 like I was hoping to make the World Team that year. 56 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,080 I was hoping to, you know, do well and win a national title. 57 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,360 So I think I just felt like it was, Dang, I, I just missed it, 58 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,480 you know? And who knows what's going to 59 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,840 happen now because they're, the doctors are telling me, yeah, 60 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,640 you're not coming back. So I'm like, OK, well, that's 61 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:37,160 not great to hear. And I'm going to try. 62 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,520 And they're like, I don't know, but yeah. 63 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,800 Have you gone back to those same doctors and like, what do you? 64 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,920 What do you? Think now back because I had a 65 00:02:44,920 --> 00:02:49,680 second surgery in 2023 in August, because I so the first 66 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,560 surgery they had to like put my leg back together. 67 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:57,440 So they gave me a plate in like 6 or 7 screws I think. 68 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,120 And then a year and a half later I got the screws and the plate 69 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,400 taken out. One of them still in there 70 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,320 though because they couldn't really get it out. 71 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,440 But you know, it's like a keepsake. 72 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,560 But but yeah, I've seen them and I think they've been like, wow, 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,880 like I can't believe you came back in this way. 74 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,640 But I, I think it was more just like getting on the track. 75 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,640 I don't know what they know now. I haven't seen them probably 76 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:26,280 since I would say latest December of 2023. 77 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,040 So I don't know what they know now. 78 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,920 Yeah, You got to book an appointment and just come back. 79 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:33,760 Not even for like, like anything to do with your legs, just to 80 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,120 show them the metal and be like, hey, like, yeah, I thought you 81 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,280 said this was impossible. Yeah, yeah, it'd be fun, yeah. 82 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Yeah, I was going to say that's like a little novelty. 83 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,840 You got a plate in your leg, but now you got a metal around your 84 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,600 neck. It's like it's a dope situation 85 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,200 to come back from. Are they your scars? 86 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,000 I guess. Oh, I see them, yeah. 87 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,320 They're. Wow. 88 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,560 They're nuts. They're really big. 89 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,080 They've healed really well. When I first got the second 90 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,720 surgery, man, that was, that was rough. 91 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,160 I called my athletic trainer and I was like, it looks like 92 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,400 somebody ran over a lawnmower with my leg. 93 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,400 Like it looks so bad. It was, it was rough. 94 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,800 And I haven't really done much to make them better. 95 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,720 So it's kind of my own fault they don't look better, but I 96 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,279 think they're OK. I mean, they're cool to look at 97 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,079 sometimes. It's a nice reminder, I guess, 98 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:19,079 of what you've been through. Yeah. 99 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,120 And so I guess when running training and, and all that stuff 100 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,960 is taken away from you, like for all of us who like enjoy doing 101 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,960 that and it's, it's really hard, you know, period of time to go 102 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,960 through both just mentally, physically. 103 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,160 What do you remember, I guess about the first run back? 104 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Like I, I like hearing those stories of like the first time 105 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,720 that you were able to, you know, run for or even, I guess run 106 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,120 first and then first time you felt like you could, you 107 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,880 actually got back to sprinting. Yeah, I mean, I remember the 108 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,200 first time we were at a corn maze with one of like the 109 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,520 recruits and there was like a clown just coming after us. 110 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,000 So I like took off and I was not cleared to run yet. 111 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,560 But my first instinct being that I could run felt good. 112 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,720 I'm like, OK, I wasn't in pain, but yeah, running like actually 113 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,400 on like an altar G that was. I could see like the and they 114 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,040 had like a mirror and I could see the lymph and I was like, Oh 115 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,720 my goodness. Like I don't know, like how this 116 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,520 is going to transpire. And then I got off that like 6 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,840 weeks later and I'm on the track and it was ugly. 118 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:31,920 I I remember like I was just limping and it was hard and I 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,840 was just like, I just like don't know how. 120 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:35,640 Like there were a lot of moments where I was just like, I just 121 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 don't know how this dream is going to happen. 122 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,640 But yeah, everyone in my corner was super support, supportive, 123 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,360 and they were just like, you can do it, stop limping. 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,600 All these things. They were just like, just stop 125 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,400 limping. It's just like a mindset just. 126 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,400 And I'm like, OK, I just don't think it's that easy. 127 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,400 But they're really supportive. And I don't think I would have 128 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,760 been able to do without the people in my life. 129 00:05:54,840 --> 00:05:57,160 Yeah, obviously, like when distance runners get a chance to 130 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,400 like get on the ultra, G, like after an injury, like you start 131 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,960 off at, you know, a low percent and then from there it's very 132 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,960 gradual. So for a sprinter, I guess that 133 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,200 recovery like like when you're on the altar, G, what are you 134 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,840 actually doing at that point? I think they first had me. 135 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,640 So in like October, I think I did like a strength test and 136 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,960 they didn't clear me. And that was like a devastating 137 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,160 day. I remember it was like 7 in the 138 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,240 morning. They tell me at PT after I do 139 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,200 all the testing, you can't go on the altar, G. 140 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,520 I'm thinking, all right, the career is definitely over. 141 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,280 Like I can't even go on the altar, G How am I supposed to go 142 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:32,960 back over hurdles? So I remember going to 143 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,640 Starbucks, getting a coffee, crying, and it was too early to 144 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,480 go to Coach Holloway's office. So I like waited till like 930 145 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,160 went to his office crying and he was like, well, who told you 146 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,440 that you were going to be able to do this right now? 147 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,160 Like you want to compete the indoor season. 148 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,920 I know that's what you want to do, but no one expected you to 149 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,320 be running. You're setting these like high 150 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,200 expectations. This is why you're disappointed. 151 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,600 And then we came up with like a new plan with my athletic 152 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,200 trainer, the nutritionist, Coach Welty, and my strength coach, 153 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Coach Matt, just about like building as much strength as 154 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,920 possible. And they wanted me to do another 155 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,920 six weeks. And I was like, I can't hear six 156 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,160 more weeks again. It was like the constant thing I 157 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,920 just heard over and over and over again. 158 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,200 So they gave me 4 and on Halloween we tested me again and 159 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,880 I got a bunch of my strength back and I was able to go on the 160 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,040 altar G finally. But it was just a long haul. 161 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,360 Oh my God, Say, how does it feel to kind of get some of that 162 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 tough feedback of like, all right, I want to do this, but 163 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,640 they're telling me I can't and I can't move faster, you know, I I 164 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,440 want to get back faster. Like, how does it feel to kind 165 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,440 of yeah, hear? That especially like when you 166 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:36,240 probably felt like you were doing everything right, like you 167 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,200 weren't like going out and and running secretly just because 168 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,640 you felt like it, but you doing all the the right things. 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Yeah, it was hard because I felt like every single time I would 170 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,840 go to a doctor's appointment or we would do something to be 171 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,320 like, all right, well, you have 6 more weeks and it's like, when 172 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,760 is the six weeks going to stop? Like I can't just hear six 173 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,960 weeks, six weeks, six weeks over and over and over again. 174 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,960 So it just felt like I was just getting delayed, delayed, 175 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:01,200 delayed. And I was just like, I just 176 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,600 like, how am I supposed to stay like hopeful that this career is 177 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,240 going to like happen if you guys just I can't even get on the 178 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,360 altar G So I can't even run at like a percentage of my body, 179 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,880 let alone be sprinting and hurtling at my full potential. 180 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Yeah. And it's it's so important to 181 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,360 have those people in your corner where like, yes, you might be 182 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,520 devastated and in tears. But like Coach Holloway, Coach 183 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,760 Welty, they've worked with so many athletes who probably have 184 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,880 been in those positions where it's like you feel like it's 185 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,400 over and like these big goals are going to be unachievable. 186 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,120 And they're stoic throughout the whole entire thing. 187 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,480 And it's that tough love of sorts, like when you look back 188 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,600 on it and I guess like when you've had conversations later 189 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,320 on, like have you been like, do you remember like how down I 190 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,400 was? And like, how, how do they keep 191 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,240 their composure? It's just kind of remarkable. 192 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,400 Yeah, it is crazy because they are probably thinking the same 193 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,760 thing as I am, but they had to save face because they're the 194 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,160 coach and I'm the athlete. So they're probably just trying 195 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,080 to, you know, be as honest as possible, but also save a little 196 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,560 bit of hope. And I think seeing Anna have 197 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:08,880 that bad injury in what, 2021? And then her going through UF 198 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,920 and having that injury and coming back, I think that gave 199 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,960 me a lot of hope knowing that these are the right coaches to 200 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,200 make a kind of career ending injury, not become a career 201 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,080 ending injury. And, you know, seeing how well 202 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,720 she did in 2022. So it was just like, OK, well, 203 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,840 at least I know I'm in the right hands and they have experience 204 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,680 with, you know, this bad of an injury before. 205 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,240 I wonder like if there was a race where you got back and you 206 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,280 said, OK, I feel like I'm back because after, after the injury 207 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,520 you ran indoors a little bit, but you didn't make it to NCS. 208 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,000 But outdoors, I think you finished like 5th place or 209 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,640 something around that was like, was it then or was it, I don't 210 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,760 know, some other race where I was like, OK, I think I'm 211 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:49,000 getting back to where I should be. 212 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,440 Yeah, I think it was indoor in 2024 when I had won SCCS. 213 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,920 I was like, OK, like first big win. 214 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,280 Like I I really think like, OK, I'm like, you know, it's the SEC 215 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,360 and there's amazing athletes in the SEC. 216 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,840 So to be able to come out with the win, I'm like, well, maybe I 217 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,200 like can do this. And then we get to like NCAA's 218 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,800 and I run, I think I run like I tie my second best time. 219 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,360 I'm like, OK, so I'm like almost back. 220 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,880 So I'm just like, OK, well these are I can see the light at the 221 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,200 end of the tunnel. That's crazy because like, you 222 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,520 became NC double AI mean 2024 was a legendary season for you. 223 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,480 And it's like almost to the last moment, you're like, OK, now I'm 224 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,240 finally back. Yeah, which is kind of wild. 225 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,240 In that period, I guess like that, you know, you were injured 226 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,960 because so much of it and I'm sure at at UF, like being 227 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,320 surrounded by so many great people in the sport, top 228 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,520 athletes like did, were you did you still feel connected to just 229 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,080 paying attention to what's happening in your event? 230 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,160 Or was it sort of like, I also need a little bit of a a mental 231 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,800 break, you know, especially with the 100 hurdles. 232 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,360 Like it just if I feel like if you hit pause and and didn't 233 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,600 watch anything for a year, then watch what happened, like tune 234 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,960 back in. There could be just a whole new 235 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,840 cast of athletes at the top of it. 236 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:05,080 Yeah, it was definitely like hard scene NCAA's like right 237 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,440 after in 2022 and just like, you know, not being there and 238 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,960 they're running fast time. So it just is like, I feel kind 239 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:15,600 of like left out, but having all my teammates there and like kind 240 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,560 of being happy like through them because we we swept that meet. 241 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:22,720 So the men and the women. So just being so happy for them. 242 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,560 I hung out with them after the meet and they made me feel 243 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:26,160 really included throughout the meet. 244 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,600 So just having such a great support system and I didn't 245 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,720 really get too angry at track and not want to watch. 246 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,560 I mean, I love the sport aside from just like competing in it. 247 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,680 So I would never just not watch it. 248 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,000 Yeah. So then ultimately after winning 249 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 the the title turning professional, what were you sort 250 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,360 of looking for in just like your first couple? 251 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:49,400 What were the initial goals for that first year as a 252 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,560 professional? Yeah, I think from coming into 253 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:56,360 college and, you know, that 2022 season, I wanted to make the 254 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Olympic team and I wanted to do that in 2024 and I didn't. 255 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:02,720 Of course, when you like break your leg, you're going to think 256 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,440 it's like not possible. So still making it in 2024 was 257 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,080 amazing. That was, you know, becoming an 258 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,520 Olympian was was my biggest dream. 259 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,880 So, you know, I just wanted to continue and push through. 260 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,520 I didn't really know what was going to happen this season. 261 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,280 I think last year I was doing really well and I think like 262 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,800 this full year because I did a little bit of the Diamond League 263 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,560 last year and went to the Diamond League final. 264 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,520 And I think I just wanted to keep up that momentum. 265 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 And I was just hoping that it wasn't kind of like a fluke 266 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,640 because I feel like I ran 12:45 and then I dropped down to 1231 267 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,840 and I was like, OK, well, can I do it again? 268 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Like, I don't know. So I just wanted to keep up that 269 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,720 momentum. And I just wanted to see what 270 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,320 the indoor season looked like. And I felt like for me, the 271 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,320 indoor season was pretty promising in the sense of like, 272 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,520 I really didn't know what the times I was in. 273 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,880 Am I going to open up with eight seconds? 274 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,360 Am I going to run 777? Like what am I going to do? 275 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,720 So I feel like I had a pretty consistent season and looked 276 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,000 pretty promising for outdoor and it was more than I could have 277 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,400 imagined. Did you feel any pressure coming 278 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,800 into this year? Because I feel like 2024 you 279 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:09,120 were riding a high of indoor champion outdoor and CWA 280 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,720 champion Olympic, you know, team Olympic final. 281 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,280 And now you come into 2025, I wonder if there was pressure 282 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,680 expectations that you kind of felt to deliver. 283 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Yes and no. I think where the pressure was 284 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,640 on myself because I know what I'm capable of and I know what I 285 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,400 can do and I know I can be like in the position than I am right 286 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,280 now. So I think it all came 287 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,400 personally. It was nothing like outside 288 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,840 factors. Of course, like you're pro now. 289 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,440 Expectations are a little different. 290 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,960 You're expected to, you know, run a fast time and place and do 291 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,080 well every single time. There's no prelim. 292 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,280 You have to just leave it all on the line out there. 293 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,800 So there was a little bit of pressure in like the semantics 294 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,720 of it, like what you have to do in the structure, but nothing 295 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,640 like outside of myself and just like the new structure. 296 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,680 What feels different, I guess about just even like to get to 297 00:13:54,680 --> 00:13:58,120 to this stage, you have to essentially peek at the US 298 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,880 Championships as well to I guess both physically and in the in 299 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,680 the in the training. And then also mentally, like, 300 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:10,240 how do you get yourself up for a US Championship knowing that, 301 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,480 OK, like, I need to crush this one in order to even like, have 302 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,280 a chance to get to to the big one? 303 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Yeah, You know, I think going to USA is always hard. 304 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,080 It's the toughest team to make. There's a lot of pressure. 305 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,120 You know, you can do really well overseas and like kill overseas, 306 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,920 but you could be like the 5th best girl in the US. 307 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,640 And especially with the hurdles now the US women are like 308 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,840 killing it in the hurdles and overseas they're killing it. 309 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,280 So it's always like a dogfight every time you get on the line. 310 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,600 And I'm so blessed to be on the line with all these amazing 311 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,520 girls. But yeah, I mean, there's a 312 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,560 little bit of pressure showing up, but I think I just again, 313 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,400 try and focus on my own lane and not worry about anybody else. 314 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,440 How's the call room before 100 hurdle final at US as? 315 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,360 I think at US as it's a lot different than like a Diamond 316 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,840 League or even. Are they different? 317 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Yeah. I would say the USA girls are a 318 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,400 little more serious and there's less talking and there's less 319 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,480 giggling and less like communicating. 320 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,160 There might be like a little bit, but not not much. 321 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,360 But like overseas and like a diamond link, girls are chatting 322 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,280 up, giggling, laughing. We're all friends. 323 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Not saying that we're not all friends in the US, but it's a 324 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,440 little more serious for sure. The stakes are way higher. 325 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:29,520 There's so much pressure on us because again, you could be 4th 326 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,280 in the world and miss A-Team just because you're in America. 327 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,160 So I think that's like the hard part of it. 328 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,320 I was gonna say, which one do you prefer? 329 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,120 Do you prefer like that serious focus, like, all right, locked 330 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,920 in or is it like, OK, no, we're relaxed. 331 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,160 We're like enjoying the call room. 332 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,600 I think I adapt. Like if we're not talking, 333 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,720 that's fine. If we're talking, OK, let's 334 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,960 talk. Like I think I just like adapt 335 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,280 to whatever my situation is. I don't really know what I 336 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,640 prefer. I think maybe a little bit of 337 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,240 like a smile or just like a little bit of something just 338 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,480 like, OK, like we all feel the pressure, but it's 12 seconds. 339 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:08,400 We all can coexist and be fine. Like, it's not that deep for us 340 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,280 to just be like, angry at each other. 341 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,080 But yeah, just like depends. Yeah, and I guess like when it 342 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,760 is quiet at, you know, a championship like USA is like 343 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,720 what are you then like telling yourself like in in your own 344 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,800 head, I know you're like very deep into to your faith. 345 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,400 Is that like what you kind of default to at that point? 346 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,040 Yeah, You know, I'm just like praying and just trying to stay 347 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,680 focused, talk to God about like any anxiety or nerves that I 348 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,120 feel. I think nerves is a good thing. 349 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,960 It means you care. But you know, you don't want to 350 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,400 be shaken at the line. So, you know, just trying to 351 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,400 calm myself down. What is the most nervous you've 352 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,240 gotten before race? Like which race? 353 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,880 I don't know, probably like the first one back, I think I almost 354 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,680 didn't get on the line. I remember Coach Holloway like 355 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,520 gave me the I was really upset. They were in the 60 and I was 356 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,520 really upset and I was really nervous about like what was 357 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,240 going to happen because I was ran the 60, really upset and 358 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,400 then OK, it's now time to warm for the hurdles. 359 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,680 You have like 40 minutes before you have to warm up. 360 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,960 I was crying. I was a mess and coach was just 361 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,800 like, you know, you don't have to get in line if you don't want 362 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,839 to. And he was like, go do what you 363 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:15,800 need to do. If you come back here at 364 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,040 whatever time it was and I need to warm up, cool. 365 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,960 If you don't, then I understand like I'm not going to make you 366 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,040 get on the line. Like type of injury you had is a 367 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,160 little nuts. So I'm not going to make you get 368 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,359 on the line. But yeah, it was I was really, 369 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,360 really nervous. It was just going back over 370 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:34,400 hurdles with the gun going off and the high stakes of it being 371 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,600 like SE CS is so much different than of course, doing it in 372 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,600 practice. So very nervous. 373 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,440 But I ended up getting on the line and just like again, 374 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,800 talking to the people that I trusted and confide in and it 375 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,920 ended up being like a decent race. 376 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,760 I mean, it was more than I could have asked for. 377 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,600 And I knew that like going into it, if I couldn't go over that 378 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,040 race and like start, then I outside would be like very 379 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,560 difficult cuz now it's 10 hurdles and I knew I could go 380 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,360 over 5 because I fell over hurdle 7. 381 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,200 So I knew I could get over 5. I don't know if I can get over 382 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:10,400 10, but I remember Anna and Coach Holloway being like at the 383 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,280 finish line when you come off, we were Arkansas so they're 384 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,960 right there when you come off. And I remember this, them just 385 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,440 being like, so happy for me. And it meant a lot like Anna 386 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,680 being there just because she's been through this. 387 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,120 So having like someone like her and just seeing her like 388 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:26,360 flourish after her injury and like her confidence now. 389 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,560 So it was really helpful. We had a really funny interview 390 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,800 with like Trevor Bassett back in like 2022 where he talked about 391 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:39,040 like how you sometimes talk to the hurdles and like he, he does 392 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:40,800 in particular. I mean, I think like he hates 393 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,840 Hurdle 8. So with Hurdle 7 being the one 394 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,720 that like, you know, hurt you, like have you ever, you know, 395 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,040 kind of talked to Hurdle 7 or just like thought about it a 396 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,960 little bit more than maybe you should have? 397 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Because like, yeah, I mean it. It did hurt you. 398 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:00,920 Yeah, Consciously now, No, subconsciously, maybe. 399 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,000 Before I used to be like, Oh my gosh, I just finished hurdle 6 400 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,680 and now there's a hurdle that took me out and I would, I feel 401 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,920 like I would almost like stop and take it. 402 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,680 Of course I wouldn't stop, but like you could see all my 403 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,560 momentum drain and then me go back over hurdle 8 and it was 404 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,800 like, OK, like obviously that hurdle was messing with their 405 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,520 head. I subconsciously, yeah, it may 406 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,560 still mess with me. Nothing that like I'm aware of. 407 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,960 Though I love that you picked like for the most nervous race 408 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,320 like the first one back and not the, you know, Olympic final 409 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,720 with 80,000 people like in the stadium and the spotlight on you 410 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,960 guys and like that that you chose just like the low key SEC 411 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,880 meet. Yeah, I think it was just 412 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,160 because I I didn't know if I would be on the ground or not. 413 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,000 Like I didn't know if I'd crossed the finish line. 414 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,680 I didn't know what was gonna happen. 415 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,040 Of course, I was pretty nervous at the Olympics too, but I think 416 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,080 I was nervous more at the Olympics, I guess. 417 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,360 But I was like fearful on the line in 2022. 418 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:00,080 So I guess that's like the disparity. 419 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,880 Like of course, when the prelim I was really nervous. 420 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,800 I was just like, Oh my gosh, there's. 80,000 people in the 421 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,400 stands, I can't even hear like my name being called. 422 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,240 I don't know what's going on. I think I like hit a hurdle. 423 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,080 I was in lane 9. I was like, Oh my goodness, this 424 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,920 is embarrassing. And I think I got it together 425 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,920 and like by the semi coach, I was like, all right, you got the 426 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,160 nerves out, let's go be who we are. 427 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,280 But yeah, I think that, yeah, more nervous there, but very 428 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,160 fearful when I got on the line in 2022 or 2023, I guess. 429 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,880 How did this final in Tokyo compared to that Olympics in 430 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,520 terms of how you were feeling getting on the line and 431 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,080 everything? Yeah, I definitely feel like I 432 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,200 was more confident and more determined this time around. 433 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,400 And I feel like, again, I feel like I had a lot of pressure 434 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,760 that I gave myself, that I wanted to have a medal. 435 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,800 So I feel like, like I said, I was walking away with something 436 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,440 and I just had that mindset going in. 437 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,040 So I feel like I was very determined on the line versus I 438 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,240 guess like at the Olympic final, it was just, it was just 439 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,680 different. Like I feel like I was in a 440 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,360 better mindset this time around. What's the most important thing 441 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:04,480 you think you have to do between the semis and the final to kind 442 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,240 of, you know, get clean things up and get things right? 443 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,440 I mean, it's very little time to, it's like cramming for a 444 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,720 test at the very last minute. But you know, you're in 445 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,320 particular this time around from from the semis to the final, 446 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,400 Like, what were some of the things you really wanted to hone 447 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,280 in on? Yeah, this time is different 448 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,920 because at the Olympics you can go to sleep, you have a night to 449 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,840 rest and think about things and relax and recover your body in 450 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,200 like a timely manner. This time you're you're rushed. 451 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,160 Like you just go back to the warm up area. 452 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,960 You meet your coach, you meet your trainer, you have like 453 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,600 maybe 40 minutes to get it together. 454 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,760 But I had my college trainer, she's here. 455 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,360 So that was really nice. Having her just felt like a, a 456 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:43,240 full circle moment. She's been with me through it 457 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,960 all. And then having like Coach 458 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Holloway again, he's seen me on my hardest day and my best day. 459 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,120 So again, having him in the call room with me in the warm up 460 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,840 area, it was really nice. And I kind of just, you know, 461 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,040 lean on him and, you know, he's been doing this way longer than 462 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,960 I've been alive. So, you know, just trusting his 463 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:02,680 expertise and what he says to do back there is important. 464 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,280 I'm curious how you kind of gauge the hurdles in general 465 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,800 because like you said, you were focused and determined on 466 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,400 getting a medal. But from like a fan's 467 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:12,800 perspective, we're watching the season. 468 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,360 It's like you'll win, you know, a couple diamond leagues and 469 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,960 then Messiah will jump off and then Detajee will start to get 470 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,160 informants, like almost impossible to predict. 471 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,120 I wonder if you even like keep tabs. 472 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:25,480 Obviously you're racing them, but like are you following like 473 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,400 what's going on in the season as you're like, don't know, like I 474 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,880 know I'm going to be able to get this medal. 475 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,760 Yeah, you know, I'm a big fan of the sport, so I'm watching every 476 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,880 race regardless if it's a replay of myself or somebody else. 477 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,600 So I'm very aware of what people are doing, but also I'm aware of 478 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,920 what I'm capable of. So I just focus more on that 479 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,680 rather than what they're doing. Yeah, I guess like that, that's 480 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,040 the thing. It's like on the day, like it's 481 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,160 you and your lane and the hurdles that are laid out in 482 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,280 front of you. Even studying tape on how some 483 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,040 of the other runners, I guess that maybe it helps you queue 484 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,960 off of just some of the things that may unfold in the race, but 485 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,280 your priority number one has to probably just be what's ahead of 486 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:04,720 you. Yeah, I know. 487 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,640 There's 10 barriers with all the same 10 barriers. 488 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,120 They're not going to move, Coach all of us says it all the time. 489 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:11,840 They're in the same place. They're not going to move. 490 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Nothing's going to change about what you have to do. 491 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,360 So just go out there and focus on yourself and handle business. 492 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,360 I, I love, I guess like in in the show Sprint when like they 493 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,720 had the coaches miked up and you get to hear what like Coach Flo 494 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,000 says to Julian, like right before going out to the race, 495 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,200 what Dennis Mitchell told, you know, Shakari, I guess if 496 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,720 someone would have put a mic on Coach Holloway like before these 497 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,200 finals, like what, what are the final instructions really? 498 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,040 He just says go be you and that he loves me and that's the same 499 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,200 thing every single time. I love that. 500 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Wow. That is though. 501 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,000 So I want to talk a little technical because you've had 502 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,560 some great races. I mean, you're 1221 in Paris 503 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,280 early this year, like was insane, obviously getting onto 504 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,520 the podium here. I wonder if you feel like you've 505 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,960 had like the perfect technical race that you've put together in 506 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,360 the hurdles or if you're still looking for that kind of race. 507 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Yeah, I don't know. Probably not. 508 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,160 I mean, no race is going to be perfect. 509 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,240 You're going to have a mistake. You're going to have a way to 510 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,040 get better. And that's how I kind of, I'm 511 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,440 pretty nitpicky. I'm not. 512 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,800 Yeah, I'm pretty nitpicky. So I would like to say no race 513 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,120 is perfect. I think of course the fastest 1 514 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,760 is probably the most perfect, but again, there's still things 515 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,600 to clean up in every race. So what would it be let's if we 516 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,880 look at that 1221 like how do you feel like you executed? 517 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,280 I think that I executed the front half of the race really 518 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:39,400 well. I would like to say like my last 519 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,080 two segments, I would like them to be a little better, a little 520 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,520 cleaner. I don't, I hit hurdles often. 521 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,200 I don't remember. I think I might have skimmed 522 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,720 one, which is like here nor there. 523 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,760 I mean, if I can skim it and do 1221, then I guess it's OK. 524 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,840 So yeah, I think I, when I talked to Gotal, I was like, So 525 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,520 what did you think of my last two segments? 526 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,880 I don't think he saw as much of an issue, but I think he was 527 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,800 like, you're loaded. Like things can change. 528 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,680 Like let's just continue to focus on what we're doing, don't 529 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,400 change a thing. And that's kind of the mindset 530 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,600 we went through the rest of the season with. 531 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,800 And you, you even mentioned your first race back was like the 532 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,920 flat 60 and like you were a dominant 60M runner while in the 533 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040 NC double AI. Wonder if that's carried through 534 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,360 into the work you do now, whether that's, you know, your 535 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,080 execution from the start or even like coming off the 10th hurdle, 536 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,040 you know, to the finish. Like, does your speed kind of 537 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,920 really help you out right now? Oh absolutely. 538 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,400 I feel like I've been in fifth or something coming out the last 539 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,440 hurdle and I've like, I feel like that's what happened like 540 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,800 last year, like I was like in 4th or 5th and I sprinted my way 541 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,720 to the finish line and I'm like, OK, I'm on the team. 542 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 So I feel like my speed definitely helps me. 543 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,720 I think it's a blessing and a curse that you can see that 544 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,200 sometimes I can get too close to the hurdle, but it's nothing 545 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800 that like I'm going to change. I'm just going to manage it and 546 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,440 that's just what we have to do. I think my speed is my greatest 547 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,560 asset and that's just something we need to manage and we're just 548 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,840 going to keep working. I you know, what's so 549 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,000 interesting about like when you come through the mix zone and 550 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,680 you have to do all these interviews immediately after the 551 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,720 race, it's like there's very little opportunity. 552 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,680 You have to even just go back and and watch that. 553 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,840 And probably sometimes like you black out from the race that 554 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,560 that just transpired that when you're facing all these 555 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,080 questions, like I haven't even seen the race, like it just 556 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,920 happened. So have you had a chance to, I 557 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,480 guess watch back the race just now and then I guess like what 558 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,600 has anything stood out to you like upon for the review? 559 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,120 Yeah, You know, I think my start again is one of my greatest 560 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,320 assets and I think I got out well. 561 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,520 I think I was just like fighting for a medal a little bit too 562 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,720 much and I rather would have. And I think again, talking with 563 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,160 like Coach Holloway, maybe we'll get into the nitty gritty of it. 564 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,920 We still have one more meet left at Aslo, so we'll see what we 565 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,200 can do. But I think it'll probably be 566 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,000 more of like a conversation of like next year, like, all right, 567 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,680 what are we going to change? What are we going to do? 568 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,480 How are we going to build? How are we going to continue to 569 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,720 upgrade that metal? Has it felt like a long year? 570 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Because now you're pushing the season to October. 571 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,360 Yeah, it has felt long. Felt like a replica of last 572 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,480 year. Went to the whole collegiate 573 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,520 season. Then I went to the Olympics and 574 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,520 did like half the Diamond League season all the way to the final. 575 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,560 So yeah, it's felt like a long year. 576 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,080 But you know, I'm excited to have one more meet. 577 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,480 You're saying that you were maybe pushing a little to try 578 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,400 and get a medal. What do you thinking about in 579 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,240 between hurdles because you obviously you have to like focus 580 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,680 in on the hurdles and the technique and the executions. 581 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,080 Happening so fast, but yeah, you're. 582 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Also, like, OK, like what's going on? 583 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,440 I need to get a medal. Like how do you kind of balance 584 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,160 that? Yeah, it depends on the race. 585 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,320 Some of them I do black out from when the gun goes off and I'm 586 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,720 like, OK, I gotta weigh well and I'm over hurdle one. 587 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520 Then it's like, OK, I'm all the all of a sudden I'm at hurdle 9 588 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,680 and the finish line's like right there. 589 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,360 So some of those races, like I don't really remember some of 590 00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:52,600 them, I'm just like, all right, keep my arms. 591 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,800 I keep my arms tight. And I feel like that's something 592 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,360 I always remind myself. That's something that Coach 593 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,160 Holloway is usually yelling at me in practice. 594 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,400 So I just like kind of focus on that and like stay composed. 595 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,360 I can't really think too much. Like there's just some like it's 596 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,720 kind of when we're overseas in the Diamond League, Coach 597 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:11,680 Holloway is the collegiate coach. 598 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,120 So we can't really be there with me. 599 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,080 So I kind of just take like a few things that he says and they 600 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,800 know, like be patient out of the blocks or keep your arms tight 601 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,080 in between the hurdles. Those are things that I can 602 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,240 remind myself while I'm racing because I have to, because he's 603 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,920 not necessarily there yelling at me to do that in practice. 604 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,400 Nice one one thing that I think is really fun and I've kind of 605 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,360 picked up on it as just it might be like a lot of the Florida 606 00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:40,640 Gator, I guess now, now pros where it's like Jasmine and like 607 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,160 they do those mood boards or like the vision boards, I guess 608 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,720 for the following year. Have you done? 609 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,440 One I have, yeah, I did 1 going into last year. 610 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,320 I didn't do a incomplete one this year, but yeah, last year 611 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,720 we all met up and did one together. 612 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,560 What? What's on the incomplete one for 613 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,120 this year? It was this. 614 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680 I was getting a medal, I was going to Tokyo, I was PR ING and 615 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,400 you know, I was just accomplishing what I thought I 616 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,800 could do. I love that. 617 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,360 I also watched like that Adidas video that they put out where 618 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,640 it's you and Grant, I guess like going out and making coffee and 619 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,040 I at the in the middle of it. I think it is like they bring up 620 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,200 all the things that Grant likes, which is like wine, coffee. 621 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,040 And it was curious because he didn't ask it right back to you. 622 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040 But what are some of the off the track interests that you really 623 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,840 kind of love and then at the same time are looking to partake 624 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,120 in here in Tokyo? Yeah, I am a big coffee lover 625 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,840 myself. I find new coffee shops in 626 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Gainesville all the time, I think. 627 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040 And like the past like month and a half, I've probably taken 628 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Grant to like 4 like different ones every time just because 629 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,480 it's like, right, Phil yes, I found a new one. 630 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,800 Let's go. And it's like, where did you 631 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,880 find this? I don't know. 632 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,520 He's like, I'm just living here for summer. 633 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,720 It's like. OK, well this new one opened up 634 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,640 and then this one new one opened up and then this one. 635 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,000 And it's like, why are you finding? 636 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,720 I don't know. I love going to get coffee. 637 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,080 It's my favorite thing. I'm so excited for the NFL 638 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,840 season. I can't wait to get back and sit 639 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,200 down every Sunday and watch NFL all day and do nothing but that. 640 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,200 I love hanging out with my teammates and my training 641 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,840 partners. Some of some of us meet up on 642 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Wednesdays and we do like dinner, so we'll cook and we'll 643 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,080 eat dinner and then is that? Survivor Night. 644 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Survivor Night is Thursday. That's a different group of 645 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,200 people. We'll watch Survivor. 646 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,040 Yeah. It's just just a mix of group of 647 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,960 people who wants to do what. But yeah, Survivors on Thursday, 648 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,800 we'll watch Survivor and we'll, you know, see who's gonna win 649 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,800 and we'll, you know, place like a like a bet, I guess on like 650 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,080 who we think's gonna win. We know nothing about these 651 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,800 people. We're just like guessing. 652 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,400 I never watched Survivor until like a year and a half ago when 653 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,800 we started this. So I'm like, I don't even know 654 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,120 what I'm watching. Like I. 655 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,600 It's incredible. It's the best show in the world. 656 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,640 I I mean, I've watched every season, every episode I really 657 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,040 like. It it was a really fun show to 658 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,920 watch and I do did really like it. 659 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200 But yeah, I was just like the whole first season I was like I 660 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,160 what is going on? So we just like I like picked 661 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,920 this like person based off of nothing I. 662 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Know what season was this? Was this like 2? 663 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,920 It was. I actually won. 664 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,040 I picked D. Oh wow, yeah, that's a good. 665 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,760 Season and I was just guessing because I I like so like how 666 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,440 what is it like? I didn't know anything. 667 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,760 I don't know what was going. On what's an immunity challenge 668 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,440 like all that stuff, Yeah, so. How do they, how do they get 669 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,880 this? What is drawing rocks like? 670 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,280 What is all of this like? I don't know. 671 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,960 Would you ever go on the show? No, I think I'd be terrible. 672 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,360 Really. Probably, yeah. 673 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,720 Like I think maybe the challenges I would do well. 674 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,600 I probably have a terrible poker face. 675 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:45,600 I would not do great in lying. I probably would stick to like 676 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840 who I know and I wouldn't be able to have like the sociable 677 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360 aspect. I think I'd be like, all right. 678 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,360 These are my like 2. Friends, these are your people, 679 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,160 yeah? Yeah, like I like these are my 2 680 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,880 friends. You're like, I can't betray them 681 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:55,600 at any point. Yeah, I can't. 682 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Betray them so it's like. They're going to Take Me Out at 683 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,360 some point, yeah. They're going to Take Me Out 684 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,160 because they know I'm not going to be like, all right, well, 685 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,240 she's never said so. It's like we'll never get her. 686 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,840 So yeah, I'm out first. OK, so on that note then, who of 687 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,960 the Gainesville bunch would be the best survivor player? 688 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:17,480 Man, we're all super competitive, so I think like it 689 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,480 would be a rough sight. I don't know. 690 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,240 Like could Anna do it? I don't know if she would want 691 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,640 to do it. I think she'd probably be the 692 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,200 best though. I think she probably had the 693 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200 best poker face. Jazz and Claire are extremely 694 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,120 competitive. Claire would never backstab 695 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,360 someone like she. Wouldn't, but she's extremely, I 696 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,200 don't know though. She's like the first survivor. 697 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,520 Yeah, she's extremely competitive. 698 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,400 So I think like the challenges would just like get to them. 699 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,640 Like I think they'd be like, OK, they get they play catch phrase 700 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600 and bananagrams. And the funniest thing is 701 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,880 Claire, well, when she like messes up and it's her like 702 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,320 group messes up, it's gonna kill her. 703 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,760 She'll she'll turn on them for sure, just because it's gonna 704 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,000 make her so angry, because she's so competitive. 705 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,080 And Jazz will be like the same. She'll get a little more angry 706 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,480 at you. But I don't know if she would 707 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,520 necessarily like, I don't know. I played like catch phrase with 708 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,600 them. I don't like playing catch 709 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,040 phrase with them. They get mad at me because I 710 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,360 like get nervous and like stutter because they're like, 711 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,520 all right, just say the just like get it out. 712 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,680 Like I can't describe the word. That's so, that's so funny. 713 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,800 Like. Jasmine being good at survivor. 714 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,360 Yeah, she'd probably be pretty good. 715 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,680 Yeah, On the opposite note, if we put the whole Gainesville 716 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:38,280 bunch on, you know, in Fiji who gets voted off first, it'd be 717 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,880 Trevor, right? Maybe Grant, I don't know. 718 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,720 Oh yeah, yeah. They like, get the strong tall 719 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,640 one out. Yeah. 720 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,360 Like he's just strong. He's tall. 721 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,160 He's gone. Charismatic and like. 722 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,240 He is everything. He would, yeah, try and be the 723 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,760 leader of the bunch. I could see it. 724 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,680 Yeah, Trevor. I feel like would be pretty good 725 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,440 actually. I could see it too. 726 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,200 Yeah, I. Feel like he'd be like. 727 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,120 Well, that's why you got to get him out first then, yeah. 728 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,360 But I think he'd be sneaky. Like, I think he'd be like, why 729 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,640 is he winning all these challenges? 730 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,040 But he's so nice. We got to keep up. 731 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,199 Like I feel like that's what Trevor. 732 00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,639 Would no turn on him? No, you can't turn on Trevor. 733 00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:15,080 I mean, he's the nicest guy. The more we talk about it, it's 734 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,679 like, all right, someone needs to bankroll a entire survivor 735 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:21,800 season with track and field athletes in in an offseason. 736 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,440 Yeah, no, I'm here for it. Crazy. 737 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,480 So I mean now gold medal around your neck, you have the bronze 738 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,960 medal. I'm sorry, I'm manifesting it 739 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,679 for you. Like coming soon. 740 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,040 No medal around your neck. You have the metal ceremony. 741 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,040 I mean like looking forward, like are, I mean you set the 742 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,239 goal that you want to get on the podium, like is it now right, 743 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,239 gold or bust? Are we just looking forward to 744 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,360 that in the? Future yeah, we're just looking 745 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,880 to continue to upgrade. I feel like that's the biggest 746 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,440 goal and staying on that podium is another big goal and just 747 00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,800 keep the momentum going. Awesome. 748 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,000 Love that. Well, Grace, thanks so much for 749 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,200 stopping by. How much longer are you in Tokyo 750 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,760 for? I sit in my stay, so I'm here 751 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,120 till the end. Oh nice. 752 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,080 Yeah. So super excited to continue to 753 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,360 watch all of my training partners. 754 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,800 Is there anything out here that you're looking forward to now 755 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,640 that competition is over? I'm sure you still have to get a 756 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,600 couple practices in and, and, and train. 757 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360 But like, what are you looking forward to the most in, in 758 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,000 Tokyo? We're we're trying to hit a 759 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,520 robot cafe this afternoon. Oh, wow. 760 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,840 Where there's no people, humans who work, they work actually 761 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,760 behind like closed doors and they're controlling the robots. 762 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,280 But robots are taking your orders and serving you the 763 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,360 coffee. I don't know, it feels like 764 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,120 we're in the future. Sometimes out here. 765 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,360 Wow, I mean, I wish I could go to that. 766 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,320 Maybe I've been to Shibuya a couple times shopping, probably 767 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,040 gonna go back again, do more shopping, just hang out, hang 768 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,840 out with my team and watch my teammates. 769 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,040 I feel like that's like the biggest thing. 770 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,840 That's the reason why I wanted to stay is, you know, you see 771 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,360 Jasmine and Joe and Anna and Rob, like all these like amazing 772 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,560 training partners that I have. So just being able to watch them 773 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,920 at the world stage is really exciting. 774 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Did you find a good coffee shop around? 775 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,960 Oh yeah. Or a couple good ones, I don't 776 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,600 know. OK, there was a place in at our 777 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,200 old hotel. It was called Swamp and it was 778 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,560 very, very good. That's like, I don't, I can't 779 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,760 pronounce it. I was like I'm. 780 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,440 Not going. To try it's probably like 20 781 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,520 minutes away from here. It was called swamp and I, I 782 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,280 loved it, the swamp. So it was really good. 783 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,480 That's like the only one I really found. 784 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,440 I have just gone to Starbucks in Seven 11711 the coffee. 785 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,360 Is different here, yeah. It's different. 786 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,240 It's an experience for sure. My favorite thing for the Team 787 00:36:36,240 --> 00:36:39,320 USA athletes who have been here for for a bit is like when they 788 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,360 are at like a coffee shop or something like that, they'll 789 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,560 post it on Instagram Stories and then like, do the tag for the 790 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,840 location, like the little sticker that you can put on 791 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,440 except for like, it's in Japanese. 792 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,960 And I'm like, I wouldn't even know if I'm clicking the right 793 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,120 location. Like, this could be like a bank 794 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,560 down the street or something like that. 795 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,800 But I just picked it because it was the top result. 796 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,040 So it's just been really funny to just kind of see everyone out 797 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,320 here adapting to the culture. Yeah. 798 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,320 But Grace, thanks so much for for stopping by and I can't wait 799 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,720 to see one more Athos like what you got in store there to close 800 00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,880 out the season. And it's been an awesome one 801 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,160 from from start to finish. And so hoping for for more as as 802 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,840 we go along. Yes, thank you so much for 803 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,080 having me. Sweet.