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But first, let's just let's 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,240 banter for a little bit here. Pre haircut. 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,840 Yeah, much needed haircut after a couple of weeks of travelling, 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,520 but yeah, no, it was yeah, yeah, I just had to get it done. 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,880 OK, but now? This is before we started 57 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,760 recording. I complimented you on your 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,120 haircut and you told, I said, oh, like, how often do you go 59 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,720 and get your haircut? And you said you haven't been to 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,760 the Barber since before the pandemic, correct? 61 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,240 Yeah, yeah. So like during the pandemic, I 62 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,800 got some Clippers and now I'm just like, I, I mean, I'm not 63 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,840 doing anything sophisticated, so it's fine. 64 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,480 Like, you know, I just, I just kind of buzz cut it a little 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,840 bit. And then how? 66 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,600 Much do you think you've saved in in trips? 67 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,240 To the bar. That's what I was going to say, 68 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,760 yeah. To be fair, like my I, I was 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,760 going to a cheap Barber Barber for by London standards. 70 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,760 So my, my my, but probably, probably 1000 lbs by now. 71 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,960 So yeah. Not bad. 72 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,960 It's 1000 lbs Yeah. Can't complain. 73 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,040 If you can always extend your haircut like a week, So if you 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,320 say I need it but you wait a week and you do that your entire 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,280 life, it adds up to a lot of good savings. 76 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Well, the other thing is I can do it more frequently, right? 77 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Because before I used to then put off going, I wouldn't have 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,440 time to go and then my hair would just get long and messy. 79 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,760 And yeah, my hair doesn't look good when it's a bit too long, 80 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,560 but it's still, yeah, it doesn't. 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,440 It's not good. I'm a haircut every two weeks 82 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,920 type of person, especially I think in the like before a. 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,240 Lot. It is a lot, yeah. 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Do you write it off? I have a former teammate who 85 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,800 would write off haircuts on his taxes because how he looked 86 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,520 during races was part of. Chris, you have to look good on 87 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,240 camera. You're on camera all the time, 88 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,880 right? That's the thing, it's like, I 89 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,440 guess I could, I could make the case for it. 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,720 And should I be using like the city as company card for my, for 91 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,320 my haircuts moving forward? No, I mean, I and also like I'm 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,760 very particular about like if I am going to have to do the 93 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:12,120 Milrose pre or post show, like I on on Friday that the haircut 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,440 needs to be on Thursday as fresh as possible for the live 95 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,720 broadcast, because I feel like my hair grows back pretty 96 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,760 quickly and I by like if I got it on Tuesday, it's it's not 97 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,520 going to cut it. So that's me and haircuts. 98 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,920 I'm very like weird about it. Kyle, you've, you've gone 99 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,320 through like a variety of different. 100 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,600 Looks in your career you were the headband guy for a bit. 101 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,560 Now I look back, I was like, why was I wearing a headband? 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,760 What a terrible decision. It was the you know, it was the 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,000 time, it was the early 2000s. Style is different. 104 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,040 No, it wasn't. That early 2000s, like if you 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 were wearing that into the 2019, I'd be like. 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:58,280 Oh, yeah. But it started in 2007, so 107 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,320 became a thing. You got to keep doing it. 108 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,360 And Evan Jagger, you know, he looked really good. 109 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,160 So. So what we did, it's cyclical, 110 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,160 though, fashion. People are going to be doing it. 111 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,480 They're going to be wearing baggier and baggier jeans. 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:13,960 And then they're going to compress and they're going to 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,160 get tight again. And, you know, you stick to your 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,600 guns. What? 115 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,760 You like you like just like we said with the 1500 that like 116 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,360 tactical racing is back. You know, it's all one big 117 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,120 cycle. Kyle, I guess like you no 118 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:32,160 headband this past weekend, but you were at the McCurdy Micro 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,440 Marathon wearing a hat. Oh, not the micro, It's it was 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,480 the McCurdy micro TQ. I think is is sort of like the 121 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:45,360 official name for the race. But big purpose of that one was 122 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,280 try and get a bunch of Olympic trials qualifiers. 123 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:52,280 You jumped in to pace some of the men's race and then drop 124 00:06:52,280 --> 00:06:55,120 back to help out some of the women. 125 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,400 Like tell us a little bit about the experience. 126 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,280 Like, there's nothing like standing at the finish line of a 127 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:08,480 marathon when there's a deluge of people coming in hitting that 128 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,200 OTQ. It's like that final minute is 129 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,160 you're watching people's dreams come true. 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,840 And then you kind of want to look away as soon as the clock 131 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,240 takes over to the standard because you don't want to watch 132 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,160 the person, you know, who's on the other side of things and, 133 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,160 and has that heartbreak. But was it that this weekend out 134 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,880 in Rockland County? Yeah, I mean, I rabbited the 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,360 weekend before the 13.1, so I live 20 minutes away from 136 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,320 Rockland, so it's very convenient. 137 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,960 I texted, you know, the trials and miles guys the week before. 138 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,680 I was like, if you need any help let me know. 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,080 I'm happy to jump in. I haven't broken 5 in about 10 140 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,040 months, but I'll give you whatever I can. 141 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,160 And they're like you want to do the pace group upfront. 142 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,120 So I made it 3 miles, just under 5 minute pace and I had a great 143 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,800 time. So then I finished that. 144 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 When I texted James McCurdy, I was like, hey, I'll come back 145 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,360 next week if you guys need any help. 146 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,080 Like I could run 216 pace for a while I think. 147 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,240 And he said, well, we got one guy up front who's trying to run 148 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,680 211, would you help him out? And I like crunched the numbers 149 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,520 and I was like, all right, well, I just did 3 miles out of pace. 150 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,760 I think I'm good for four miles and one more week of running. 151 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:26,600 And so Thomas Nobs from Canada was trying to run 211 and I I 152 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,320 went out was right on pace and I'll tell you a little bit about 153 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 the start in a second, but he was on my ass. 154 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,640 I mean, we we were under pace at 4 miles was basically an all out 155 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,320 effort for me. And then he soloed two O 924, 156 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,559 which is the fourth fastest Canadian of all time. 2 minute 157 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:49,800 PB for him, just like 100. This guy is 26 years old, runs 158 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,840 130 miles a week solo, does everything. 159 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,840 Every workout in the lead up was on the treadmill and then just 160 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,600 ran 22 miles by himself to run two O 9, which is just, you 161 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,480 know, pretty badass And again, like it was great conditions and 162 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,440 it's a fast course and everything, but still just 163 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,280 essentially a time trial. It was really fun to be a part 164 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,560 of. And then I did jump back and run 165 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,720 a decent bit with the women as well at in that sub 237 group. 166 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,880 I was helping our Co host over at getting checked Megan who got 167 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:29,640 under to to, you know, run clip off some 556 miles or so. 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:30,760 And so it was a really special day. 169 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,800 I think what was it? 14 men, 11 women ended up 170 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,360 getting the standards. Yeah, so. 171 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:42,360 And it was awesome. We'll leave Megan's story for 172 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,600 her to tell on the Getting Chick podcast, but give us your 173 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,680 vantage point. Like, you're seeing someone 174 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:50,800 who's like, you know, dreaming big on the cusp, you know, has 175 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,560 given this a crack in the past. Like, like, what are your sort 176 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,760 of observations of, Like, were there moments where you're like, 177 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,840 oh, things are slipping away? And then she managed to find a 178 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,760 way to get it back? Like what did you see? 179 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Yeah, I was nervous for Megan because she was hanging on the 180 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,720 back of a pack and just as, you know, if someone fell off, she'd 181 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,200 go around. There's a couple times that, you 182 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,200 know, there was a 5m gap that opened up and this is early on, 183 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,400 you know, before the half. And then she just kept clicking 184 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,200 it off. It's just the momentum of an 185 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,560 entire group. It's really fun standing there 186 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:29,120 watching because the loops are about 3 miles and with three 187 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,920 miles to go as the men's pack came through and the women's 188 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,920 pack, you just know that they were on pace and they it was 189 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,000 just like, hold on, don't do anything crazy. 190 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,640 They're not trying to run 214. They're not trying to run 235. 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,920 They're just trying to get under and just the power of doing it 192 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:50,600 with a bunch of people. Look, I've, I've been Olympic 193 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,360 trials qualifying cynic before where it's like we got to make 194 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,520 these standards tough and like, you know, keep raising the bar. 195 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,720 And I do believe that. But it is so cool when people 196 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,480 cross the finish line and like drop to their knees hugging 197 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,600 family and friends, popping bottles of champagne. 198 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:12,520 It's such a special moment. It's so motivating for so many 199 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,800 athletes to just have those standards to chase. 200 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,400 And I think we're already ahead of schedule with the number of 201 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,880 qualifiers that we have. Like, we still have a long 202 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,720 window. The half isn't even open yet. 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,680 We're going to have huge fields, which, you know, means that 204 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 American distance running is doing really well. 205 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Because if you have that many men under 216 and that many 206 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,600 women under 237, then we've got something going on. 207 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Yeah. I think the biggest thing that I 208 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,280 account for is when they moved the standard from 2:45 to 2:37, 209 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,600 you had a lot of women who went for it and didn't get it in the 210 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,080 last cycle. So you'll have some Atlanta 2020 211 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,880 qualifiers that are going to pop back on to the trials in 2028, 212 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,640 which is really cool because one, it shows that you've stuck 213 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,800 with it for this whole entire time. 214 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,200 And then two, it that's just sort of like how progression 215 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,960 works. Like some people, yeah, it you 216 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,880 could make this massive big sort of jump. 217 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,800 But for others, they just needed the extra time to chip away, 218 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,000 chip away, chip away. And you know, they're they're 219 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,200 finally getting it. So it'll be cool. 220 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Sidious gets some representation in the trials in 28 with Megan 221 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:31,200 competing and yeah, like, we'll, we'll certainly be there to 222 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,920 cheer her on. And now I'm, I'm guessing this 223 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,920 is around the time that USATF is doing its site visit. 224 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:45,680 So it's Phoenix versus Saint Louis, which I, I was, we have a 225 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,120 podcast that's coming out with CJ Albertson and he's very 226 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,600 firmly in the give me Phoenix. Because if you look at the 227 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:57,040 weather, yes, it looks like it's crazy hot right now, but it 228 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,000 doesn't get crazy crazy humid. He was like, well, he's been 229 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,520 through Orlando in 2024, but there was nothing like Tokyo 230 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,080 last summer. And at the same time, if even if 231 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,480 the conditions are really hot, this is a selection race for the 232 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,360 Olympic team. And he just got to race smart on 233 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:19,280 the day and contend for for those spots. 234 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:24,120 So the anticipation is building for the 2028 US Olympic Marathon 235 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,400 Trials. And it is really cool to see 236 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,480 just sort of these events that pop up and deliver, Hey, here's, 237 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,160 you know, over a dozen new qualifiers. 238 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,840 And that's just the way, you know, running isn't a very 239 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,400 healthy place in in the United States. 240 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Preet There's your there's a big piece of advice for you is find, 241 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,720 you know a big flat loop in London, a place where you could 242 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:52,920 get great weather and just start hosting races that people. 243 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:53,760 Will. Go to. 244 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,960 It's good business right now. Chris, I told you this Preet. 245 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,720 I don't know if I told you about the way that the race started, 246 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,080 which is they lined everyone up in a complete single file line 247 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:14,800 because in 2024 the women were chip timed but men were gun 248 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,640 timed. But now everyone is chip timed I 249 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,520 believe in order to qualify. I think it was universally 250 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:25,520 always gun time, but then some women ended up on the what? 251 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,640 Yeah, maybe in 2020. I don't, I don't know that. 252 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,520 But whatever it is like now, it is. 253 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Everyone is chip timed, so it doesn't matter when the gun goes 254 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,840 off. It's just when you cross the 255 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,040 line. So they lined everyone up, me at 256 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,760 the front. I didn't, I didn't know what I 257 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,440 signed up for single file line like a workout running through 258 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:50,000 the start line and they have the tangent line drawn on the 259 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,520 course. So that way the idea is just run 260 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,800 exactly 26.2 miles. Don't don't go wide on a turn, 261 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,640 don't run shoulder to shoulder at anyone and look like it's 262 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,000 it's not traditional by any means. 263 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,760 It definitely takes the whole racing element out of racing 264 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,640 when set up like this. But obviously this is just a 265 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,520 qualifying event and everyone got bottles every 3 miles was 266 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:20,280 working together very much a community work like help the 267 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,920 person next to you or behind you get the time. 268 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,600 But it was it was a unique way to start a race. 269 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,160 It felt very Formula One do. You think it should be adopted 270 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,760 in other places or just keep it to these unique like like London 271 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Marathon is not all of a sudden going to be like all right. 272 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:44,520 100,000 people I'm gonna reach into like whales. 273 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:52,160 Yeah, where they get like spaced apart by a couple seconds or was 274 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,440 it just sort of like, all right, once this person goes? 275 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,440 No. It was just basically all right, 276 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,080 go and then I was like all right, well, I hope I don't 277 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,200 screw this up. I gotta go out the right place. 278 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,680 If I go out in 13 seconds of the 1st 100 like a Miller often 279 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,960 would, then you know I'm I'm dragging out a hundred 200 280 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,200 people too fast so. 'Cause I was just thinking like 281 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,880 the importance of starting like right, like on your target pace. 282 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,200 And so like if anyone would have done a little run up, like you 283 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,640 know how there was a whole controversy with Faith Kapiagon 284 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,760 and like the yeah, yeah, the time, like, well, what if you 285 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:29,480 just did that? Where? 286 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,920 So it's like, oh, you're starting right at 5 minute pace 287 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,160 already from your little run up so that by the time. 288 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,920 You're in theory, you are right, Like the other athletes behind 289 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:42,120 me were doing that and then they had 408 hundred and 1200 meters 290 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,720 marked off at the very start to make sure that you're on pace 291 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,400 because the GPS versus the tangent line is, you know, a 292 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,120 little wonky. Interesting. 293 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,600 Wow. Yeah, Well, there, that's the 294 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,720 McCurdy Micro TQ. I'm assuming they'll have one 295 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,880 more go at it next year since the window is still open. 296 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,800 And then, you know, before 2028, I guess it'll be in March. 297 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,440 So they they won't have another one. 298 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,880 So at least one more year of this race. 299 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,920 So for anyone listening who wants an opportunity to go and 300 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:16,200 run really fast or go for that qualifier, it's there. 301 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Make a trip out to to New York for it. 302 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,119 All right, let's get into some of the results that took place 303 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,599 this weekend. I, I don't really have too many 304 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:27,480 takeaways, so I'll just shout out really quick what happened 305 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,720 at the sound running meet. We had Muhammad Abdullahi from 306 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Germany, ran 2656 German national record, PB in a tight 307 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:41,480 battle with Kai Robinson, 2657 Australian national record. 308 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Mike Foppin was the next guy, but it was a pretty distant 309 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,320 third place 2720 from there. So we got two guys who dipped 310 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,000 under 27. And then over on the women's 311 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:58,640 side, a lot of hype I would think was was put into Shelby 312 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,920 Houlihan going for Alicia Monson's American record. 313 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,200 But I never really bought into it. 314 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,920 It it's such a fast time and looking at the field, I didn't 315 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,360 really think that she would have the help to really get there. 316 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:17,520 And so Shelby ends up running 3050, which is solid for her, 317 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,400 but she's kind of in this weird spot trying to think of like 318 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:28,680 what her event focus should be. She probably leans to 1500, 319 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,840 given that she, you know, that in her heart she probably thinks 320 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,920 1500. She obviously competed in the 5K 321 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,920 at the World Championships and finished fourth there. 322 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,160 But everyone's always kind of talked about how the aerobic 323 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,000 stuff, you know, comes better to her. 324 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,160 And then there was, you know, talk of what she time trialed, I 325 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,280 think, in 2020, which was quick as well. 326 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,720 And so I think Shelby's in this weird spot. 327 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,440 She's been down to 800 I think, after this. 328 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,200 So she's always had that range. And this is just sort of like a 329 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,280 good sort of fitness check for her. 330 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,360 So that's what happened in the two marquee events. 331 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:12,720 Is there any? Standard or anything that they 332 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:18,920 could be chasing right now. So I so they should be chasing 333 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,360 the 2027 Beijing standard, right The window is probably should be 334 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,920 opening around now, but they have not yet announced what the 335 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,960 standard is going to be because normally they. 336 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,840 Delayed it. They didn't even, they were 337 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,280 supposed to give that information out at the World 338 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:37,760 Athletics Congress in Poland that just took place, but for 339 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,280 some reason they delayed the announcement of that. 340 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:46,160 But yeah, I think when they've had these 10K standards come 341 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:51,000 out, it does sort of encompass the previous year's 10 race in 342 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,360 February has fallen within that window. 343 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:58,640 So I guess Shelby's performance would count towards the rankings 344 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,160 whenever it does sort of officially open for her. 345 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,120 But most people I think right now who are 10K specialists 346 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:09,920 aren't necessarily focused on using 2026 as an opportunity to 347 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,800 go and race a 10K. But it could be good to just get 348 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960 one on the board and just keep that familiarity with the event. 349 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,920 But. You'll see more people running 350 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:25,040 it probably next year. I I guess like the one thing we 351 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,720 kind of typically shout out as a suggestion to folks is go, go to 352 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,040 Spain, run one of these 10K road races that's out there. 353 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,760 It seems like every one of them yields some crazy fast times. 354 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,480 And so if you're an American 10K runner, knowing that these 355 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,800 standards are going to be pretty tough, you can just go out to 356 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,760 one of those races and bank a fast enough performance. 357 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,880 It may not be under the standard, but you can hack the 358 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,120 ranking system in that. Way I think that. 359 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,120 I I think. Rocklin is a little too windy to 360 00:20:58,120 --> 00:21:02,760 run the pace as necessary to qualify in a 10K, but we should 361 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,760 find a a good loop that has a smoother turn or two in the 362 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,120 middle and I don't know, see if Sidious can put something 363 00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:11,200 together. The Sidious. 364 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,000 Bank 10K. Yeah, yeah. 365 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 I mean, I was going to say like the the 10K's that they have, 366 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,000 which are fast in Spain, I think we found that there are some 367 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,440 athletes who adapt really well to Rd. racing and running fast 368 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,440 on the road. But there are others who are 369 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,360 just really good at clicking off an even pace on the track, 370 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,240 having the lights, you know, because their, their pace 371 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,400 judgement isn't, you know, they don't like any yoyoing of pace. 372 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,240 They don't like, you know, and their pace judgement like it's 373 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,320 helped significantly by having that pacer and having the the 374 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,880 wave lights to just guide them around. 375 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,800 And so I think it really does depend now because of the the 376 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,080 fact that the shoes mean that you can run quicker on the 377 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,080 roads. Obviously there are plenty of 378 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:55,000 people now running quicker on the roads, but I, I, yeah, I 379 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,760 think it really does depend on the athlete. 380 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,720 The US 10K picture, even on the women's side, is kind of having 381 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,040 a little bit of a turnover of talent. 382 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,720 Because if you think about who's sort of made the team over the 383 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,320 last couple years, like I'm pulling up the results of last 384 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,560 year's USAS, but you think Wayneie Kolodi is now, you know, 385 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:26,800 working her way towards moving up to the marathon, then Shelby. 386 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,520 This is her first, sort of like. Shot at it. 387 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,520 Emily Enfeld is the reigning US champion. 388 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,760 We could maybe see her I think well right now she's pregnant so 389 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:42,560 out for 2026, but curious to see if she'll lean towards returning 390 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,600 to the track or move toward the roads when she does choose to 391 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,760 come back. Elise Cranny was second Taylor 392 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,040 Rowe. I could see Taylor Rowe also 393 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:56,400 following Wayne to to the to the marathon sooner rather than 394 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,200 later, which then sort of leaves just a pretty wide open window 395 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:06,320 in the 10K for people to make these teams. 396 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,120 Like I guess from the Olympic team, Krita Schweitzer, Parker, 397 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:12,840 Valby, you could probably still slot those two in if they're 398 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,240 fully healthy among that. But even I just saw, I think 399 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,240 Krista Schweitzer tease the idea of running something longer than 400 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,280 a 10K is I think how she phrases so presume maybe testing herself 401 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080 in 1/2 marathon. So the roads seem to be, you 402 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,080 know, pretty popular. But even if you're someone like 403 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:33,720 Parker, like you had, you missed the entire 2025 outdoor season 404 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,280 and you're kind of looking at things now. 405 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,040 It's like actually like you haven't fallen off from being 406 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,080 back at the top of the event all that much. 407 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,240 So yeah, it's just going to be very interesting. 408 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,360 Preet and I are enjoying our time away from crunching the 409 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:53,400 world rankings in the 10K, but it'll be back sooner rather than 410 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,280 later, so. Yeah, obviously. 411 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,640 That was the 10. Yeah. 412 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,640 I mean, there were a few people obviously at the 10 who got, you 413 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,640 know, European and Commonwealth standards, which, you know, is 414 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,280 obviously good for them. And I think that's what they 415 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,120 were targeting, which probably explains also like the 27 416 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:09,000 twenties is kind of where where that sits. 417 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,360 So yeah, that's why we had a bunch of people in that, in that 418 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,720 in that range. OK, Preet, you missed the 419 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:19,040 episode where we were sort of ranking all these titles and we 420 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,080 kind of joked it was like, oh, an NCAA title is, you know, more 421 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,920 prestigious than like the European U 23. 422 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,840 And then you kind of, you know, you handed it back to me sort of 423 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,600 in the in the follow up episode. But now I see that like somehow 424 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,800 I guess someone may have listened to the episode and it 425 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,760 started being discussed sort of on on Twitter. 426 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:46,280 But how do you personally rank European titles and Commonwealth 427 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,120 titles between those two? I think it's really. 428 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,240 Well, I will be in agreement with the people on on social 429 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,600 media who say an NCAA title is is more valuable than both of 430 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,160 those. I think honestly, like the 431 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,440 reality is right that if you are in Europe, right, and this is 432 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,200 the thing, right? If you look at it maybe on the 433 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,160 day right in the year you're there and you go OK, like you 434 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,240 look at the European men's 200 meters from 2022 or whatever it 435 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,880 was 2024, they were poor, really poor, right? 436 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,600 There's just nobody there. And but there's someone who's 437 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,400 won a European 200 meter title, right? 438 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,400 And then you look at some of the other events where you've got 439 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,360 like the throws or you've got, you know, certain races like the 440 00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:33,000 1500, depending on who turns up are really, really high quality 441 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,760 races, right? And you're going to have that 442 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,880 mix. You'll have some of those at 443 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,880 Commonwealth as well and but the reality is like. 444 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Politic and give us give us the answer. 445 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400 Europeans are Commonwealth. Which one would you rather be? 446 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,760 You're pre Majithia the 1500 Europeans, right? 447 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,920 OK. Definitely Europeans, but but 448 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,360 obviously look, if you look at the sprints like 100 meters, if 449 00:25:54,360 --> 00:25:56,760 the Jamaicans take it seriously and you want the Jamaicans and 450 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,720 the Brits and you know, you can get a good, you could get a 451 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,640 good, you know, good field. It might be might be higher 452 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,160 quality if the Jamaicans turn up and you know, Julian Alfred 453 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,720 turns up and and so on and so forth. 454 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,160 But you know, so in that sense, the Commonwealth could be better 455 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,880 in some events, right? And I think obviously the 456 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,600 Kenyans and can turn up in the distance races and make those 457 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,560 those pretty strong some of the other African nations. 458 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,480 So I think it really it is an event by event thing. 459 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,240 But all what I was trying to say was, I think if you look at 460 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,480 legacy, right? So when your people are looking 461 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,000 back at their careers like and people don't know whether the 462 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,160 field in that particular year was really weak as anything or 463 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,280 really strong and you've got European medals on your resume. 464 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,760 That's it's actually quite a good thing. 465 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,480 Like looking back over time when you, when you've got that on 466 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,080 your CV. And I think we just had like 467 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,680 Adam Jamili, who's a, you know, who's a British sprinter, is 468 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,000 very talented. He would have won an Olympic 469 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,320 medal probably in in 2016. He not got injured, but he, you 470 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,640 know, he won a European title and that was kind of one of the 471 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,480 crowning moments of his career. And like just looking back 472 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,880 actually that that's really cool. 473 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,320 And I, I have no idea who else was in that race. 474 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,920 There may not have been anyone particularly good. 475 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,080 I don't know. But, but I think the thing thing 476 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,880 is that now, like when you're moving on to future careers, 477 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,920 when you're kind of looking at sponsors, like, you know, that 478 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,120 is that's where it's important. And I think someone pointed out 479 00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:22,960 like someone like Rasheeda Adelecki, right, she won NCAA 480 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040 400 meter title. And in the US, like if she was 481 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600 an American athlete, that wouldn't possibly mattered more 482 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,280 because she probably she ran quicker and and whatever. 483 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,160 But she also won a European silver medal in the 400 meters 484 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,320 and in Ireland, in our home country, that's when she really 485 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,800 broke through and she got loads of sponsorship and she got loads 486 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,680 of support, right. So, and, and I'm sure Carl, you 487 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,800 have thoughts on that. But like that's a that that's 488 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,200 the kind of thing where I think it's just, it's, it's very 489 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,120 context specific. This episode of the City Smack 490 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:58,680 podcast is supported by Wahoo. You've got 26.2 miles of work. 491 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,000 Heartbreak Hill. 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Check it out today at 529 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,000 wahoofitness.com and use Code SIDIOUS at checkout for that 530 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,160 free Kicker Headwind Smart fan. Many thanks to Wahoo for coming 531 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,040 back on as a sponsor of the Sidious Mag Podcast. 532 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,200 I have an idea that I have pitched in former meetings that 533 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,160 I'll pitch to you guys now, which is as we wrap up the 534 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,240 indoor season, I very much think that we need AUS first the world 535 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,920 like dual meet or something. And the part of this is that I'm 536 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,160 thinking of is in the Commonwealth Games, it'd be so 537 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,200 fun if you had like 1 American in each event that just like 538 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,200 they their entire role was to disrupt and everyone hates them 539 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,920 and they root against them. But I am just jealous that this 540 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,280 year in particular that Europeans and Commonwealth 541 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,880 countries have something that is so nationalistic and especially 542 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,320 like for the Scots, you know, like to to have it in your home 543 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,000 country, I think is a really big deal. 544 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,600 Like I think of the the last Commonwealth Games for the 545 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Australians, like that's such a big deal and that needs to be 546 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040 factored into it. But anyway, USA versus the world 547 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,680 indoor dual meet. But the USA really wanted to. 548 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,920 They were part of the British Empire at one point. 549 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,960 So, you know, technically I think they could. 550 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,720 Sign up for that was free. We didn't know that there was a 551 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,680 Commonwealth Games where we made that decision to leave, that 552 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,000 maybe that could have been. Clearly not. 553 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,280 Maybe that would have influenced the whole situation, right? 554 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Is it too late to go back if Max Siegel just said, hey, I know 555 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,480 you fans want this like you want us to participate in a bigger 556 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,680 championship this year. I'm going to petition to get us 557 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,040 into the Commonwealth Games. I think that along the way, very 558 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,120 upset American. World Athletics is like hell 559 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,600 yeah whatever, come on in, we'll give. 560 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:53,760 You 7 spots Yeah pop quiz Kyle because Preet, I feel like you 561 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,960 know this. One, let me pull up. 562 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,320 Let me pull up, Adam. Gem and I real quick now. 563 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,560 You brought up Adam Jamili and how he almost would have won a 564 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,320 medal. He was fourth in the same exact 565 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,200 time as third place in the 200 at the Rio Olympic Games. 566 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,200 So pop quiz, Kyle, because Preet probably knows it. 567 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:21,480 What was the podium in the medals at the 2016 Olympics in 568 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,640 the 2? Men's 20162000 My God. 569 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,760 Gold is obvious. So anyway, he had the same time 570 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,520 as third place. Yeah, it was a photo finish 571 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,520 between 3rd and 4th. But so. 572 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:44,840 Winner was yeah. Degrasse. 573 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,000 Yep, I. Have no idea. 574 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,640 All right, so who is bronze? No clue. 575 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,120 Preet, do you want to give it away? 576 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,400 I I to be fair, I didn't know either off the top of my head, 577 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,880 but it was Christophe Lametra of France. 578 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Who was that's like? 20.1. 579 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:09,320 Like the pop quiz sort of like. That you'd find on a on Jeopardy 580 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,480 or something like that. And who was the 2017200 meter 581 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440 world champion? That's the next step. 582 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640 That's that's a pub pub quiz question. 583 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,600 Oh. It was the 2017. 584 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,520 World. Champion 200 World Champion. 585 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,440 Indeed. Not Dream, Richard. 586 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,880 No, in the 200, no, I think. This is the most. 587 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,720 Random. Random. 588 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520 I don't know his name, but I know what country he's from. 589 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000 Pierre Boss, the Turkish guy. No, no, he was 800. 590 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,480 Yeah. That's him, Yeah. 591 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,000 I could remember his name. Wow. 592 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,680 That was pretty crazy. It's a good one. 593 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,400 You know, this, this has me thinking because, you know, 594 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,320 we've, we've launched off the rails. 595 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,760 We've we've launched getting checked. 596 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,040 And like, I love how we're back into just sort of like having a 597 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:58,440 little bit more of a podcast network, a Sidious mag team 598 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,720 trivia contest where everyone will be divided into pairs and 599 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,600 teams. So like Preet and Paul is a 600 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,040 super team. They can't be paired together. 601 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,480 But Kyle and Mac is a fine group that's evenly balanced. 602 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,960 Aisha and Eric can play on a team. 603 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,560 The getting Chick team could have one. 604 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,000 But Kyle. Do you remember this? 605 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,360 I think I hosted some trivia game when it was that one at a 606 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,320 clubhouse one app and it was a lot of fun and it was very good. 607 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,320 And I feel like we've got enough bodies now that we could 608 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,000 probably do a separate trivia podcast or interactive show. 609 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,960 Probably would do really well on YouTube, but. 610 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:38,960 We. We. 611 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,960 Yeah, no. I will fart trivia once when we 612 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,400 were with Brooks at the Boston Marathon. 613 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Yeah, David's done trivia during Boston Marathon weekend the last 614 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,400 couple years, and sometimes the questions are pretty tough and I 615 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,840 have no idea I. Think we should? 616 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,200 So David actually would be a good host for the whole thing. 617 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,280 And then that what? If we challenge the three of us 618 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:09,440 to let's run a little trivia off golf would be very good. 619 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,680 GG would be A. Strong suit. 620 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,040 No, I would lose handily to golf because my knowledge only 621 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,880 extends like five years and then. 622 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,680 Rojo can't remember. But then I think Kyle and I 623 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,760 think it. Was just like describing what 624 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:28,760 people look like and like they get no points for it and so then 625 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,640 maybe he could spur on should. We do that actually. 626 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,760 Remember their names. That that it would be highly 627 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,880 entertaining. I think we should do it like if 628 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,160 we could get David to host David would like won't give us any 629 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,680 sort of questions or anything like that. 630 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,120 No, you can't, David. You need a new. 631 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,000 We did a one off. You need like Will Weir, you'll 632 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:53,240 have to have our our host or someone like, you know, without 633 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:57,120 a, if we won, then they'd be like, well, David obviously told 634 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,160 them the answer is prior. Yeah. 635 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,720 There would be conspiracy theories floating about it. 636 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,320 OK, Yeah. All right. 637 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,760 Yeah, well, let's let's let's workshop it and we'll try and 638 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,560 make it happen. But I guess the call out is is 639 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,200 there. Kyle has challenged. 640 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:12,760 Yeah. And then I then I would like a 641 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,560 three by 800 first then as well, which I think also would be 642 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,000 quite competitive. No, it would not, because I 643 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,680 would. I would make up for the two of 644 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,440 you handily. I think all right, so I I think 645 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,440 I think it'd be OK. You know golf is their number 646 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,640 one. Chris, though, I think you got 647 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,840 Robert at this point. I think you got Rojo for sure 648 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:44,120 yes, like and Weldon, you know, I think he runs a little bit, 649 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,240 but I can I'll I'll make up some time. 650 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,760 I'll, I'll go chase. Yeah, pre like we're not asking 651 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,600 you to run 210 like. Sub 3:30. 652 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,280 We just. Yeah, that would be 653 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,960 entertaining. That ain't happening. 654 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,320 I. Get the training if you. 655 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,200 Got If you got me on the marathon relay, I was going to 656 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,600 say like if you were offering me a spot on the marathon, I'd say 657 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,080 only if you want to give the other teams a massive head start 658 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,800 so that they'd have a chance against. 659 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,080 The city, I believe in you. I can, I can. 660 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,360 Throw the marathon relays. I blew it for for us, we were in 661 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,120 3rd place going into the anchor leg and then I found out that 662 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,560 the anchor leg was 11 laps and not not just a mile. 663 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,600 And I just did not have that those extra last couple laps. 664 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,920 And so we slipped from 3rd to 4th. 665 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,000 And so the goal for this year is to get on the podium, but 666 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,760 they're pushing for bigger teams this year so people would have 667 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:47,320 to run less legs. A couple people will still run 668 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,960 multiple, like we have Christian Noble on our team now and 669 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,440 recruiting the team New Balance Boston to like, hey, you don't 670 00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,720 have to come out and blast a sub 4:30 for us, but just give us a 671 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:05,720 sub six would be nice. And then so yeah, we're really 672 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:07,920 stacking the deck this year I think to make a run for the 673 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,160 podium. There's some local Boston clubs 674 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:14,600 that come out and then they're just like there's multiple sub 675 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,440 fives on their team. I don't think we'll have that. 676 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,720 I like that our team maybe has the most accomplished resume on 677 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,320 paper where it's multiple Olympians. 678 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,440 When you account for Aisha and Mark Coogan, we've got NCA 679 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,720 champions. When you account for Eric and 680 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:37,120 Mack. If we recruit Andy Downing then 681 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:42,000 we'll get AUS champion in there as well and we don't have to put 682 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,560 just sort of like when these accomplishments were. 683 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,440 Set know what happened but. It looks, Yeah, They just 684 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,040 happen. Yeah. 685 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,960 It's just like a it's to Preet's point, like one of these people 686 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000 could have been European champion against the weakest 687 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,200 field in the world. And we'll still brag anyway. 688 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,640 All right, That's Boston Marathon weekend. 689 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,680 We've got a lot that we'll be announcing in the coming days of 690 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,760 some plans. We'll do a shakeout and run on 691 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,600 Saturday morning with Brooks and have all of their pro athletes 692 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,320 out there. Eric and I, you should have sold 693 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,040 out their first ever live show that they're doing with Under 694 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,040 Armour on Friday night. And then, yeah, we'll do a watch 695 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080 along on Monday as well. Kyle will be coming up for it. 696 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,200 First, watch along in two. Years. 697 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,840 I wish I could be there for the marathon, but. 698 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,120 It'll be good. I yeah, I don't think I can 699 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,280 swing it. I think I'm can we recruit 700 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,720 Johnny? Yeah, he's expensive, but yeah, 701 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,240 you can try, yeah. All right, we'll try that. 702 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,520 All right, let's get back to some track action that happened. 703 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,080 Maury Plant took place three races. 704 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,880 I think I kind of want to focus on from this one. 705 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:58,080 We'll start with the 200, which had obviously tons and tons of 706 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,480 eyes on gout, gout because he is the biggest star in that 707 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,520 country. But he got beat in the 200 by 708 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:10,320 Lachlan Kennedy, who I think also won the 100 at the meet as 709 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,280 well. So he pulled double duty and 710 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,560 he's not getting, you know, the 100 of millions of views for 711 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,320 these performances that you see from a. 712 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,880 The gout gout performance from 2024 that all of a sudden just 713 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,480 goes viral. It's so fascinating how the 714 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,040 Internet works where, you know, just a week ago people were 715 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,120 recirculating this old gout gout clip as if like, he's the next 716 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,600 bolt. It feels like we have that every 717 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,080 six months. And when we saw this result pop 718 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,160 up, Kyle, your first thing was just sort of like, man, Lachlan 719 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,280 Kennedy is consistently beating Gaut Gaut, but his pay is 720 00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,720 certainly not reflecting it based off of just sort of all of 721 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:57,040 the hype and attention around, you know, the 17 years. 722 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,760 I actually really appreciate that. 723 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:03,400 So Lachlan won last year both the 100 and 200 and beat Gaut 724 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,360 Gaut. So this was a call back to that, 725 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,920 but it would be so easy. Wait, right. 726 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,200 Confirm. Did he win last year? 727 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,800 Yeah, Lachlan won last year as well. 728 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:20,160 Slightly faster, but with talent, it'd be so easy. 729 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,720 Just like, hey, Lachlan, why don't you just focus on the 100 730 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,000 so Gal Gal can win. And I appreciate that the meat 731 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,640 organizers don't do that, and they make it a great race. 732 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,720 Lachlan's obviously very talented in his own right. 733 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,160 Didn't have the same indoor season focus that he did last 734 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,240 year and is off to a great start. 735 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,640 But I just the amount of this meat is so good. 736 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,480 I know we were like giving some of the Australians like I think 737 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,840 we're giving Cam Myers a hard time to be like go to world 738 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,560 indoors. But it's a great meet. 739 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,160 They have so many people there. It reminds me of a horse race. 740 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,440 The amount of people they have in the the corridor, just like 741 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,240 flat on track level. It's clearly a great atmosphere 742 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,560 and it's so important the Australian calendar. 743 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,520 So yeah, I just, I, I read nothing into the results for Gal 744 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,200 Gout. I'm not going to say in March 745 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,720 that this is a make or break moment. 746 00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:18,640 It was just a nice race and it's cool to see him get appreciated 747 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:24,080 in front of a hometown crowd. I've never eaten Vegemite, but 748 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,840 apparently like, like he landed that as like one of his biggest 749 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,080 sponsors and that's a huge deal in Australia. 750 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,720 Kyle, you've been Australia A. Couple yeah. 751 00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:36,840 So the thing about Vegemite is it's when it was explained to me 752 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,000 how to eat it, it was essentially use a lot of butter 753 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,160 and don't use a lot of Vegemite. And then it's not that bad, 754 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,280 which seems like something that they shouldn't make a food if 755 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,840 there's so many parameters in order for you to enjoy it. 756 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,920 There just seems like don't eat it at all. 757 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,520 So it's it's there, but obviously it's the Australian 758 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,760 version of Marmite, right? And obviously Aussie swear by 759 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,520 Vegemite of Marmite, but it, but essentially it is something that 760 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,240 people similarly to Marmite, you know, love it or hate it, right? 761 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:14,800 And yeah, but Vegemite is big because it's one of the most 762 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,640 recognizable Australian brands outside of Australia, right? 763 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,280 We've all heard of it, which I think tells you something, 764 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,200 right? It's not, it's not a small brand 765 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,840 and they have worldwide sales because of that. 766 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:30,000 You know about the Tim Tam slam? I've heard of Tim Tams. 767 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,160 I don't know about what the Tim Tams. 768 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,000 Oh, the Tim Tam slam is very special. 769 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120 So it's you. Tim Tam is a little like 770 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,080 chocolate biscuit, Chris, as you look at me with confusion. 771 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,080 Confusion and you. Well, I was just like, I heard 772 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,440 the word slam come out of your mouth and I was like, oh God, 773 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,720 where are we going? So you take a little nibble in 774 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:52,360 the corner on one side, and then the diagonal lacrosse, you do 775 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,760 another little nibble and then you slurp up your tea. 776 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,120 Like you use the biscuit as a straw. 777 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:04,640 And then there is tea inside the biscuit and then you slam it and 778 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,440 it's like a the thing. It's really special. 779 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,640 But like, if we have any listeners in Australia, they're 780 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,120 going to be like, hell yeah, Kyle. 781 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:20,040 Kyle knows ball. All right. 782 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,080 So that was the 200 that I wanted to kind of slightly touch 783 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,480 on. One thing I was going to say 784 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,920 lucky Kennedy, he's so he's coming back from injury. 785 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,240 It's only second race back from injury, which is why he didn't 786 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:34,920 race indoors over the 6010 O3 for the 100 right in that in 787 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,640 that race, which is a really fast time like all things 788 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,960 considered. And then in the rain, he runs 789 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,560 that 20.4 to win the OR 23 eight to to win the 200. 790 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,960 But that the weather was awful when when he was racing gout 791 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,240 gout. It would like absolutely 792 00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:49,600 torrential downpour by that point. 793 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,640 So yeah, that's one of the times were not anything spectacular. 794 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,280 Yeah, I'm looking at that. You're right. 795 00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,000 It was that was his fifth fastest hundred of his career. 796 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,760 He's only dipped under 10 once and it was at in Nairobi. 797 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,880 So he got a little bit of an altitude boost there. 798 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,600 But then in the 200, this is his second best performance. 799 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,800 And you said the conditions were weren't great. 800 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,120 So watch for him. I guess. 801 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,720 Like, I know, you know, in the past people have been just sort 802 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,240 of like now, I guess, like we've seen two cases of it with 803 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:25,080 Lachlan Kennedy and Kashane Thompson of like, how do these 804 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,840 outdoor 60s translate to indoor 60s? 805 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,520 And both those guys came away with silver medals. 806 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,160 So yeah, it's just an interesting approach that people 807 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,560 take to to their season. And so I'm curious to see how 808 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,240 he's going to keep this thing going into outdoors because he 809 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,920 got hurt last year and missed. He's also 22, so he's very young 810 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:50,560 himself, yeah. So they'll they'll prop him up 811 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,000 as a face for the Brisbane Olympics. 812 00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:01,560 Next race that I wanted to hit on was the women's 1500 because 813 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,000 you know, I guess, you know, coming off of the world indoor 814 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,800 championships, getting that gold medal. 815 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,680 Lot of attention on Georgia Hunter Bell making this trip all 816 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,520 the way out there. Nike invests a lot of money into 817 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,240 the Moray plant meat as well, which is kind of why it's been 818 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,080 elevated in profile a little bit more. 819 00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:26,240 Can only imagine just like how long the travel was to get from 820 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,920 Poland all the way out to Australia. 821 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,320 But you know, you could tack on a vacation afterwards, 822 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,280 especially after a long indoor season. 823 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,840 But Georgia Hunter Bell doesn't win. 824 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,800 She ends up second, four O 152 for her. 825 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,880 Claudia Hollingsworth takes the win in four O 130. 826 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,400 Kyle, you've been someone who has been like I there's a lab 827 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,760 count, I think article from a couple years ago where it's like 828 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,800 rising stars you should buy stock in like right now. 829 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,800 And Hollingsworth has been one for you. 830 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,120 And it's great because she has a little bit of that versatility 831 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:09,400 from 800 all the way up to she's run a solid, you know, 3K in the 832 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,840 past as well. This is just further valid. 833 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,120 You know, I feel very good about those previous predictions. 834 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,720 The 3K was an amazing sign earlier in the season. 835 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:25,320 She ran 837 and beat some really strong athletes in order to run 836 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,440 that fast. We knew already that she was a 837 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,760 good 815 runner. I mean, she's run 157, but she 838 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:38,040 came out earlier in the month and like ran 358 O, which is 839 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:44,600 moving. And so, look, we know Georgia 840 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:50,800 was coming quite a ways to race, but it's still a huge victory 841 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,040 for Claudia. And even more so than the way 842 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,880 like, it's more the way that she won as well that got me. 843 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,440 It's one thing to beat someone. It's, you know, but she took 844 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,000 control and was the one to make the move and was the one pushing 845 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,200 the pace from I think over 200 meters out and was just not 846 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,840 scared of the fact that the world indoor champion and 847 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:19,040 Olympic medalist was coming to race and didn't defer to her. 848 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,720 So I just love that mindset, especially for a 20 year old to 849 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:26,160 to stick her nose in it and then of course, come out on top. 850 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,080 That's great. But even had she gotten beat, 851 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,600 just that confidence, which based off the season she's 852 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,440 having, she should have. But I think that this is the 853 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,880 year that she really announces herself on the international 854 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,000 stage. Preet, what did you make of this 855 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,400 race? Yeah, I absolutely agree. 856 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,240 Like the way she ran it was very, very impressive. 857 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,400 Claudia Holloway. And you have to like consider 858 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,320 like there's the likes of other sub for women like Linden Hall, 859 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,000 who's been really consistent over the last kind of year or 860 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,160 so. And Sarah Billings are in this 861 00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,680 race and they were nowhere close, right? 862 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,520 They they dropped off. And I mean, Linden Hall was 863 00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,000 coming back also from doubling back from wild indoors. 864 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,640 But I think like, yeah, it was just impressive the way that 865 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,840 those two moved away from the rest of the field and how 866 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,160 Claudia really, really beat Georgia. 867 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,160 And yeah, maybe Georgia was a little tired, but but you know, 868 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,000 still still an impressive scalp. She also, and she's an 800 869 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,640 runner, right? Fundamentally, she's an 800 870 00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,520 runner. She's not a 1500 runner. 871 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,520 She's run the 358, she's run the 401 now to beat Georgia. 872 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,720 So it's not even like she won in a slow race. 873 00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:31,240 She run in a reasonably quick race. 874 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,800 And then she ran 837 for three KA couple of weeks ago as well, 875 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,120 which is which is moving as well, decently well for an 800 876 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,960 runner. So, yeah, definitely showcasing 877 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,840 her change and, and availability. 878 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,240 And, and I think we've been waiting a little bit because she 879 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:50,000 trains with Craig Mottram in that OAC Australia group. 880 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,640 And we've sort of been waiting a little bit for that group to 881 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,320 make more of an impact. And they have been setting 882 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,720 themselves up for Brisbane Olympics, right, 2032. 883 00:49:57,720 --> 00:49:59,600 That's their, that's their goal, right? 884 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,960 That they, they, they've taken on quite a few younger athletes 885 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,400 to target that, you know, development towards 2032 and 886 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,360 athletes will be around and at their peak at that time. 887 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:13,640 So yeah, definitely good signs there. 888 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,280 I was just going to make the comparison. 889 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:22,120 I was like, oh, they probably feel about Hollingsworth the 890 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,240 same way we feel about, you know, Colin Solomon and just 891 00:50:25,240 --> 00:50:29,320 sort of like the range that he has from 800 to 3K. 892 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,040 But then I looked it up and I was like, she's 20 years old, 893 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,480 two years younger than Colin Solomon. 894 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,400 Actually, she turns 21 in a couple days. 895 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,840 But yeah, you brought that up just sort of like that. 896 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,560 She's an 800 runner. Last year she was on a tear, ran 897 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:51,320 158 multiple times, 157 at the Poland Diamond League and then 898 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,040 gets picked by the Australian team for worlds in the 800 and 899 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,160 she reaches the semi final and runs 159 twice. 900 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:03,800 So like, yeah, but I think so Kyle, you think she's from from 901 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,720 the looks of how she races, 1500 is going to be your. 902 00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:11,680 Event I think so I think she's a really strong 1500 runner. 903 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:23,600 I mean she ran 236 for 1K in 2021 like this is so there's so 904 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,160 much talent here. I think she can pick whatever 905 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,760 she wants to do and I think that she's been coached and developed 906 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,840 really well with a very long term approach and I think 907 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,920 hopefully that they really unleash her this year. 908 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,120 But I see a 1500 runner right now at least. 909 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,440 I don't know if she has the straight wheels. 910 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,600 I mean look at what you know what some of the the best 800 911 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,000 meter runners in the world can split in four by fours at world 912 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,800 indoors. I don't know if Claudia can has 913 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,360 50 point type speed. Also, I would just avoid 914 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,480 whatever Achille is doing. That would be my general advice 915 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,320 to anyone if they're picking it. But at the same time, you want 916 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,000 to avoid what Faith Kapiagon is doing, right? 917 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,520 This is the other problem right you. 918 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,000 He'll be a marathoner by 20-30. Yeah. 919 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,600 But but I, I mean, I think with that, with the 8:15 thing, I do 920 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,080 think like it does feel like it's a bit more like from year 921 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,120 to year. Who's meddling in the 800 Beyond 922 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,400 like the top one is kind of is variable. 923 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,800 Like beyond he like there were no repeat medalists from 2024, 924 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,760 right? There were not. 925 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,000 And from 2023, like, you know that there was all different 926 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,040 people each year. So I think there was. 927 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,280 A thing's own fault. She is. 928 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:47,040 She's just disappeared. But yeah, she would be a repeat 929 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,280 medalist, yeah. But that's why I think there is 930 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,880 a little bit of, it does feel a bit easier to kind of break into 931 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,680 that. You could have a breakout 800 932 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,880 race where you run 156 and you can be in medal contention. 933 00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:05,200 Whilst with the 1500 you've got to run 350-2353 to medal like 934 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,600 that. Even if you're running 356, it's 935 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,960 pretty difficult to make that jump all of a sudden. 936 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,520 So I think there's just a little bit of, you know, 800 you can 937 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,240 maybe get it right on the day and and get in the medals, 938 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:22,880 whilst I think it might be a little trickier in there in the 939 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,280 15, but obviously we took 154 to medal this year. 940 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,200 So I don't know could could go could go any which way. 941 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,000 So they have gout, gout, they have Hollingsworth and also 942 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,520 Cameron Meyer. Like that's just a fantastic 943 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,760 trifecta of young talent and stars like that will be the 944 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,960 faces of Australian track and field, not track and field in 945 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,600 the world. Maybe. 946 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:54,880 Who knows by 2032. Cam Myers takes the 1500 in 330, 947 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,000 blasts it. No one close. 948 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,520 Adam Spencer, who meddled at the World Indoor Championships, was 949 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,720 second in 337. Cam is crazy fit right now. 950 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,680 I mean, kind of shows us maybe what he could have done at World 951 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,600 Indoors. Like he's just on another level. 952 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:20,160 And I don't know, like it, it just frankly, it didn't really 953 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,800 make me feel all that great about just sort of like the 954 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,600 talent level that was at the World Indoor Championships, not 955 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:31,440 necessarily calling it weak, but like there were some top stars 956 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,640 that were missing. And when you see a performance 957 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:37,360 like this, you're like, yeah, that's kind of who I expected to 958 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,000 be there. I think the question I have is 959 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,440 if you are that fit, why not go and get a global medal, right? 960 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,480 This is this is the logic that I struggle to understand. 961 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,640 And I know this meat was important to him, right? 962 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,400 But running 330, he's run quicker, right? 963 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,160 He's run quicker and he could still have come in, run in front 964 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,760 of the home crowd and he probably still would have won 965 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,680 the race. He might have won it in 333 966 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,920 rather than 3:30 because he would have been tired. 967 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,520 But I suspect he could have still come back and jogged 968 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,680 around just like Linden Hall did and Adam Spencer did and 969 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,040 whatever. And he could have had a global 970 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,400 medal to his name And and that's. 971 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,080 Well, that's because when we assembled like our little 972 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,960 pyramid of just sort of where titles rank, like Cam's got his 973 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,160 own little pyramid and he's got, you know, world Olympic medal. 974 00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,760 Above the Olympics. World now, yeah, Mori Plant 975 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,360 might be, well, he has it slotted in above world indoor, 976 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,600 World indoor champion. So yeah, I guess that's what 977 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,240 we're dealing with. I love now having the idea that 978 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:40,880 everyone's got their own, sort of. 100% and definitely, I mean, 979 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,360 I had in my career a couple of races that randomly were super 980 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,960 important to me and maybe were not important to other people, 981 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,080 but for one reason or another. No, that's what I'm saying is 982 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,600 like, but now we've kind of we, we can coin this as like 983 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,160 someone's title. Period. 984 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:59,120 Like where that's a good term for like, yeah, I mean, look, 985 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,400 everyone who ran World indoors and tried to come back to run 986 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,160 more replant didn't do very well. 987 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:09,640 So I understand that like it's a hard trip. 988 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,000 And I would imagine if you meddled at World Indoors, you 989 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,840 probably had a good night after I would. 990 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,760 And then you got to get on a flight for 20 hours or whatever 991 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,720 and then get off and you got to race someone who's been well 992 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:28,400 rested and focused on this meet. It's a tough situation to put 993 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,240 yourself in. But no, I mean, Campbell looked 994 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:32,800 unbelievable. I, I don't know nothing. 995 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,840 We didn't know. 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But I think Cam Myers because he 1050 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,680 he's got the 1500 and the 5K is 2 potential options. 1051 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,920 Yeah, yeah, by 202032 I think yeah, he'll be a threat in the 1052 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,040 5K as well. It's so funny to try and think 1053 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,760 of where people are at at that point. 1054 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:54,080 Like Josh Kerr is two years removed from the end of his 1055 00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:59,560 Brooks contract at that point, but presumably he'll be extended 1056 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,760 lifetime. But like, where is Josh in 2032? 1057 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:03,640 Think of how many. Years. 1058 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:05,880 Didn't he get like that 10 year, that 10? 1059 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,800 Year but I think it goes till 2030 pre. 1060 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,920 Oh no, wait. I think it goes, we extended it 1061 01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:11,160 like last year or something, right? 1062 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,920 So it's yeah, he's like ambassador already. 1063 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,440 Like he already had the ambassador thing at the end of 1064 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,120 it already. Yeah, but where's? 1065 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,280 Yeah. Where's Cole 2032? 1066 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:28,840 Yeah, 10K probably. Do you think in 2032 what event? 1067 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,720 Sounds like a crazy year, but we're so we're, we're closer to 1068 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,000 that than we are to, I don't know, Rio, right? 1069 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,720 Yeah, yeah. By a lot. 1070 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,440 Crazy. What event do you think Gout 1071 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,560 Gout's best event will be? The 200? 1072 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,400 You think so? Yeah, Yeah. 1073 01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,840 Could you choose that? Very different, Preacher said. 1074 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,520 What I thought maybe. Maybe it could be the 400 by by 1075 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,280 by then it could be that obviously the hundred 200 and 1076 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,840 the bulk comparison means that you kind of focus on that. 1077 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,000 But it could be like he's got such a poor start that if he 1078 01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,320 fixes it, maybe he's deadly in the 200, but maybe the 400 is 1079 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:13,680 his better event. I don't know. 1080 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,280 Yeah, that's the thing. It's sort of like if you really 1081 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:22,200 like to maximize on the stardom, he has to do the hundred 200 in 1082 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:28,560 2032, but he his best event could be in the 400. 1083 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,800 It's sort of like that's going to be a a tough decision like 1084 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,600 that that that's a good question, Preet. 1085 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,240 Just sort of like when you have a rough start, how long do you 1086 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,240 give yourself to fix it before you switch events? 1087 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,160 Like Joseph Fondle is still. Not Joseph Fondle. 1088 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,720 I still do not understand Joseph Fondle. 1089 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,080 But anyway, bless him. Congratulations, the guy just 1090 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,600 got engaged so. True. 1091 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,400 So congratulations, Tim and Jason Wall. 1092 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,680 But you know, I think like, you know, Noah Lyles has shown us 1093 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,200 how to fix it right. He's he's showed the blueprint, 1094 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:05,760 right, of what you do like him, Amy Hunt, like the kind of 1095 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,440 things they've done, like going out there, running loads of 60s, 1096 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,520 mastering that start and then going out there and winning 1097 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,920 medals, right and and winning gold medals in Noah's case. 1098 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:20,000 So I think, yeah, that that is the blueprint ultimately, which 1099 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,640 potentially is the way to way to improving things. 1100 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:29,600 OK, so this also ties in to pulling together other sort of 1101 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,200 side topics to talk about. And by 2032, Jordan and Anthony 1102 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,440 might be the villain of the Brisbane Olympics if he's still 1103 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,800 in Gout Gout's events in the one and the 200. 1104 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:46,840 But I kind of like the personality and fire that we're 1105 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,080 seeing from Jordan. Anthony. 1106 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,680 There have been some, I guess he was on Anson Henry's like 1107 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,960 Instagram Live, which I just find it just really funny that 1108 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,320 like, Anson will just go live there. 1109 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,080 It doesn't seem like there's a set schedule for like, this time 1110 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,280 at this hour. We're going to go live and 1111 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,560 you'll have some of the top sprinters in the world just 1112 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,960 joining in and then just, you know, talking, I think about 1113 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,080 races and training and all that kind of stuff. 1114 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,400 But somehow this past weekend, Fred Curley and Jordan Anthony 1115 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,960 ended up in the same live and they bickered at each other for 1116 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,880 a little bit. Then there was also another clip 1117 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:22,160 that I saw floating around on Twitter where it was like Jordan 1118 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,640 Anthony had because there's there was something that Aaron 1119 01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:32,000 Brown said that didn't rub him the right way. 1120 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,440 And so now there's a little bit of a pure athletics versus star 1121 01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:40,400 athletics conflict happening. And in his interview with or 1122 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,560 chat with Anson, I think he called Kenny Bonark, little Ken 1123 01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,160 or something like that. And I was just like, jeez, I was 1124 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:53,360 like, if that I was like kind of good for the sport in in, in the 1125 01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:58,160 sense that like our two biggest Sprint squads are not in a way 1126 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,240 beefing, but like that you can tell like there is some genuine, 1127 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,760 not an animosity feels like a really strong word. 1128 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,560 But like, yeah, they're, they're competitors and, and, and I, 1129 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,600 it's kind of a good thing. Well, I look forward to many 1130 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,120 more years of Team USA dropping batons because. 1131 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:17,280 Yeah, there's that. That's that's the bad part to 1132 01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,920 hold. I mean, it's essentially Nike 1133 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,200 versus Adidas, right? Like, yeah, it's what everyone 1134 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,360 wants out of this. Like whenever people have 1135 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,280 theorized or how are you going to do teams or whatever, it's 1136 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,440 like, all right, let's get both of them to put together 4 by 1137 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,240 ones and the winner is who Team USA sends. 1138 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,400 Yeah, that's it. And I mean, that's what we did 1139 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,880 with the women last year and worked out. 1140 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:49,040 So just keep it in in house. Who do you take in the each one 1141 01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,280 of those four by ones? So if you think about the pure 1142 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,840 athletic squad has Jordan Anthony and Noah Lyles as like 1143 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,000 their 1-2. They're like their strongest 2. 1144 01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:04,560 The star athletics one has Kenny Benaric, Courtney Lindsay. 1145 01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,880 Who else? Kyrie Kyrie King. 1146 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:11,600 Is he in that group? And who is the guy who played 1147 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,760 Christian Coleman or Brandon Hickling? 1148 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,080 Like they've got reserves. That is a good team. 1149 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,080 I think star athletics. Well, they've got the 400 guys, 1150 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,520 right? And they've got the yeah, as in 1151 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:29,840 pure athletics, I've got like dream and then the 400 guys. 1152 01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,600 So they've got more 400 guys. Yeah, we should put this on a 1153 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,240 graph. Caleb and Chris Robinson, Yeah. 1154 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,960 So the win the Fallout 4? All right, so that was that was 1155 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,160 another thing that popped up. We've we've got a couple other 1156 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,000 sort of just general news stories that have come out. 1157 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,120 Josh Kerr when we were, I was just talking about him before 1158 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:57,480 Project 222 targeting a 342 mile world record attempt at the 1159 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,720 London Diamond League set for July 18th. 1160 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,200 We just put out a podcast with him a couple days ago. 1161 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,960 Brooks is going all in on supporting him. 1162 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:14,360 Custom spike, aerodynamic speed suit concept, lot of lab testing 1163 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,280 for him all aimed around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1164 01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,840 It's like whatever. Josh's equivalent of the faith 1165 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:25,600 get big on Nike sports bra for breaking 4 is going to be I'm 1166 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:30,440 curious, but yeah, so it seems like there's this big investment 1167 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,760 in it. Do we think he's going to get 1168 01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,760 close? So it took me about, I want to 1169 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:41,400 say there was 8 seconds that I couldn't figure out what 222 1170 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,080 meant. I was like project 222, like 1171 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,320 what is that number? And then I figured it out. 1172 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,840 It took a moment though. I think he could get it. 1173 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,880 Why? Why not, if the weather is 1174 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,800 right? I love that he's calling his 1175 01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,200 shot now. It's really issuing to everyone 1176 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,360 saying come meet me at the London Diamond League. 1177 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:05,360 Also, if you maybe you're not in 342 shape but you think you're 1178 01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:09,480 in 345 shape, you'll be eager to get dragged along, I'm sure. 1179 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,160 I think it's time this record goes. 1180 01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,240 It's just we've had enough. Was it 1999? 1181 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:22,720 99 Hickamel Guruj 343.13 No one get any right behind him. 1182 01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:28,000 Still sitting at #2 Jakob gave it a scare at pre classic in 1183 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:32,160 2023. Him and Jared are three four on 1184 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,360 the list. Josh is a little bit further 1185 01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,080 back. I think he's like 6th on the 1186 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,120 list. But if you go by performances, 1187 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:44,360 it's crazy to see just like Hickamel Guruj occupies, it 1188 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:50,040 looks like 1234, five of the top 10 marks ever in history. 1189 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,840 Like he was so, so good way back in the day. 1190 01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:00,560 Josh's PR is from the pre classic where he battled against 1191 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,520 Jakob in that race. And that was one thing that I 1192 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:07,920 asked him just sort of was like, so you're, you know, taking the 1193 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,600 lead role as like the star of the show in this mile at the 1194 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,120 London Diamond League, like calling all challengers like who 1195 01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:20,680 like would you want the likes of Cole Yarid, you know, Niels 1196 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,920 Laros to be in the race? And he seemed pretty open to all 1197 01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,439 of it. The big the problem, which I 1198 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,840 brought up to him, and I guess like he said, it wouldn't really 1199 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:33,880 change things, is Project 222 is focused on running 342 for the 1200 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,800 mile. But what if, you know, two weeks 1201 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,920 prior at the pre classic, Cole goes out and blasts, you know, a 1202 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,399 world record time that is somewhere in 342. 1203 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:53,160 Like does do you have to change your project title like 2 weeks 1204 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,600 to go until the big race? And he, he said no. 1205 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:59,240 And then Paul Hoff Mahoney brought up a great point in our 1206 01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:04,120 in our group chat where he's like, what if he dips under 343 1207 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,120 but it's not exactly 222 seconds? 1208 01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:11,560 Like, is that going to mean that the experiment was a success or 1209 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,200 not? So, yeah, I think that it's it's 1210 01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,200 fascinating. I like that he's come out with 1211 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,560 this so far out. It seems like he's really making 1212 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,319 this his biggest crack of the season. 1213 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,160 And then, you know, when you prove that you're that fit, I'm 1214 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,439 sure you've got plenty of time to turn things around for the 1215 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,760 World Ultimate Championships. But that's just kind of like how 1216 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:40,840 Josh operates is like he knows when to pick his battles and he 1217 01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,240 obviously hears when people are upset that he doesn't race 1218 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,240 enough. But when he does, he puts on a 1219 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,800 show. So I'm here for it. 1220 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,560 I'm excited. I'm I kind of want the drama of 1221 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,600 the guys at the pre classic running something quick that, 1222 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,520 you know, kind of puts a little bit more fire in him. 1223 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,800 But yeah, that's that'll be interesting. 1224 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:06,680 Pre 60,000 British fans will be in the house to kind of just 1225 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,520 push him to it. We we've got Hayward Magic at at 1226 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,480 Hayward. What's the London Diamond League 1227 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:17,640 equivalent for Josh going to be? I, I don't know, it's, well, we 1228 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,760 don't like West Ham anymore, so we can't use the, the West Ham. 1229 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,840 It's the Keely Hammer, hammer time. 1230 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:28,360 Keely's been taking on the West Ham football fans because they 1231 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,960 won't give us the stadium for, for London 2029 World 1232 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,320 Championships. And yeah, so we don't like the 1233 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,760 the football fans anymore or otherwise it's Hammer time in 1234 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,840 London would be the most appropriate because it's the 1235 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:46,160 West Ham Stadium. But the but yeah, the the, I was 1236 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,360 looking at this and I was thinking like Josh, like, I 1237 01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,160 really hope the weather's good. Because obviously if the 1238 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,800 weather's shocking, which in London in July, we've been quite 1239 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:55,640 lucky. It's not been too bad. 1240 01:10:55,640 --> 01:11:01,200 And I'd say it was pretty enclosed, obviously, but you 1241 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,360 know, and Keely's run her PR 154 there. 1242 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,880 So, you know, it's not a slow track. 1243 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,320 It's not, you know, it's a, it's a good, good track to run quick 1244 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:11,120 on if, if the weather conditions are right. 1245 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,680 But yeah, I do worry if the weather's not great, there is a 1246 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,000 chance it's cold and, and wet and windy and whatever. 1247 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:23,680 But that being said, like, yeah, it'll be it'll be a great 1248 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,760 atmosphere. I do think though, like Josh ran 1249 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,800 his PR with the world's best pacemaker right in, in Yakoving 1250 01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:34,400 writs and being there to to pace him for whatever it was, you 1251 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,280 know, 3000 meters and sorry, sorry, 50, you know, 1400 meters 1252 01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:43,080 or whatever it was. So like the question is, if 1253 01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:46,640 Yakov isn't there to to do that, it becomes a lot trickier. 1254 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:51,200 And I've seen Josh race like, because he came to run fast. 1255 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,320 Was it last year? I'm a league? 1256 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,800 Yeah, he was, yeah, last year. And he didn't, he didn't run as 1257 01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,960 fast as he he was. He was hoping to run. 1258 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,520 And like, obviously he's run the two mile world record when he 1259 01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:05,200 set out to do it, but that's a different, I think that's a 1260 01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,120 different level of record, to be honest. 1261 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,840 This is a tough, much tougher record. 1262 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,720 So he's definitely got his work cut out for him. 1263 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:19,720 And yeah, I, I'd love to see him do it, but I think I, I don't 1264 01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,480 know who's pacemaker is going to be, but I that's, that's going 1265 01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:24,320 to be challenging. I was just thinking about it. 1266 01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:26,360 Brandon Miller's got to be it. Right. 1267 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,440 Yeah, Brandon Miller's got to go. 1268 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,240 It's just no, he's the one that makes sense. 1269 01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:33,960 Brandon Miller can go 1200. Yeah. 1270 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:40,040 And teammate. So yeah, they need to go 1200 1271 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:44,800 and that that get pretty far. That's enough, yeah. 1272 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:51,160 Yeah, Preet, I love how attached you are to the Josh Jakob 1273 01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,160 rivalry because this is now back-to-back weeks where you 1274 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,920 won't let Josh have his moment. You're just like, what if, but 1275 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,680 but what if Jakob shows up, like to London? 1276 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,760 And then it was like, I think. He was meant to show up last 1277 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:03,560 year. They were meant. 1278 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,880 They were meant to race in London last. 1279 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,440 Year, yeah, we didn't, but even last week I think on the pod 1280 01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:09,480 when we were just sort of like, well, yeah, I know Josh is 1281 01:13:09,480 --> 01:13:11,600 planning to run. Is it Commonwealth or Europeans? 1282 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,600 One of the two. It's Commonwealth, so it's. 1283 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,240 Literally a week you're like. Literally one week after this 1284 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,640 world record attempt, he'll be running the Commonwealth Games 1285 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:19,640 in Glasgow, right? It's his. 1286 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,720 Chris for the. Summer yeah, that you were just 1287 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:25,280 like but what if Jacob wants to show up to European champs and 1288 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:30,040 then it just like I I I love how eager you are for the next 1289 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,440 chapter in the rivalry. Chris, you do that with a thing. 1290 01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:33,720 Aren't we all? Aren't we all? 1291 01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:38,160 Anything Kelly does, you're like, But if a thing was there. 1292 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,200 No, I, I I actually like said that it's. 1293 01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:42,960 You're done. You're done. 1294 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,560 I I I cancelled that just sort of like we're no longer bringing 1295 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,800 her up. I think at this point it's 1296 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,480 Keely's moment. She is she is her as the kids 1297 01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:56,040 say. And yeah, but no yeah. 1298 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,200 So but we all have our tendencies here on the on the 1299 01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,480 podcast. All right. 1300 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:06,160 Next story I wanted to bring up was we had a doping ban or two. 1301 01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:11,640 I think this week Albert career gets five years. 2021 New York 1302 01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,200 City Marathon champion tested positive for Sarah three times 1303 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:21,600 in out of competition tests that were taken in Kenya back in 1304 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:26,840 October, which means that he's going to get disqualified from 1305 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,080 the New York City Marathon. Thankfully, the margin between 1306 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:33,000 number of finishers of the New York City Marathon and the 1307 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,720 London Marathon isn't just one because this would have affected 1308 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,400 that for a world's biggest marathon. 1309 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,560 But anyway, he's, you know, finished third. 1310 01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,520 He was set to make $40,000. Really hope that New York 1311 01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,880 Roadrunners hasn't paid out the New York City Marathon yet 1312 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,640 because he'd be running away with that. 1313 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:57,560 Patty Deaver from Puma Elite ended up finishing fourth on the 1314 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,680 day. Would have been third. 1315 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,640 Would have been the first British guy to make the podium 1316 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:07,000 in New York since 1995. S kind of missed out on that 1317 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:13,520 moment, but yeah, this is just another just really unfortunate 1318 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,640 and terrible instance of, you know, doping cheat, taking these 1319 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,280 moments away from from pros. And I think Preet, you kind of 1320 01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,840 highlighted that just on the podcast. 1321 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,000 I think when he had the provisional suspension, he was 1322 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,080 like, yeah, I know, watch out. And we got to find out when this 1323 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,760 positive test came because it could affect that podium moment 1324 01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,720 for Patty Teaver. Yeah, exactly. 1325 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,880 And and like Paddy, obviously it was a really tight finish. 1326 01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,680 So he finished within a second of Albert career. 1327 01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,200 So I think it feels like it's not like, oh, you were miles 1328 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,360 behind and you just kind of got it. 1329 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,520 But this guy was shouldn't have been there, but he was, you 1330 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,600 know, he was right there. So I think a very, very 1331 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,640 impressive performance from Paddy Diva and his Davey 1332 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,200 Marathon. And yeah, it's it's exciting. 1333 01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:01,600 Now come London, right where you've got 2 marathon major 1334 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,400 podium stars on the British side lining up against each other, 1335 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,680 probably chasing that my far a British record. 1336 01:16:09,480 --> 01:16:10,920 So that that really is quite exciting. 1337 01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:15,920 Speaking of marathoners, we did this little carousel roundup of 1338 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,560 like, everyone's past, you know, last two weeks of marathon 1339 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,720 training. Kyle, you were the one who I 1340 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:26,240 guess takes great interest in this on Strava because you sent 1341 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,360 them over to us in our group chat where we had Dakota Propane 1342 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,880 going 27 miles, hitting an OTQ along the way in the process. 1343 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:39,080 Lots of guys like Charles Hicks going, you know, 24 miles at an 1344 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,920 average of 537 pace, but with some quick ones all throughout. 1345 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,640 Clayton Young with a really strong effort. 1346 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:51,920 But which one of these sessions, I guess is speaking to you the 1347 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,240 most is like, oh, that person's fit. 1348 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:59,240 They're all fit. Yeah, I said Clayton, I mean his 1349 01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:02,360 is that altitude as was Cleckers and. 1350 01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,360 And Dakotas. And Dakota and Zuhair, I think 1351 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:09,320 Charles was in Oregon. Did you want to say, yeah, So 1352 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:20,280 Clayton, I mean, 25 miles at 524 pace with miles 18 to 23, all, 1353 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:22,960 you know, averaging about 448 pace. 1354 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:25,280 That's pretty good. That's pretty good. 1355 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,400 And I and we know that Clayton is not one to be a workout hero, 1356 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,880 right? Like that is he stays within 1357 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,720 himself. And so you got to be feeling 1358 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,640 pretty good about that. But overall, like just it was 1359 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,840 cool on Strava, everyone who is racing Boston and London, just 1360 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,080 throwing up some big long runs right now. 1361 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:49,080 And the obvious emission from all of that is American record 1362 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:54,600 holder Connor Mance, who has gone dark on Strava, but that is 1363 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,600 also because he is no longer racing the Boston Marathon. 1364 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:03,760 Just put out a statement earlier today saying unfortunately my 1365 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,920 fitness has not progressed well enough for me to be able to race 1366 01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,680 the upcoming Boston Marathon at my best. 1367 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,800 I'm very disappointed but look forward to being back racing 1368 01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,360 soon. So real tough string of 1369 01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:17,560 injuries, I guess, for Connor, since Chicago, where he wasn't 1370 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,840 able to, you know, be healthy for the US cross country 1371 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,480 championships, we didn't see him in Houston. 1372 01:18:23,480 --> 01:18:27,800 And so, yeah, so it's been kind of a little bit of a struggle 1373 01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,960 since coming back. So the hopes of Provo will rest 1374 01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,960 on Clayton Young's shoulders for this one. 1375 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,000 I should have taken a hint from not getting a text back from 1376 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:40,880 Connor. I texted him. 1377 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,160 I was like, hey, like when are you feeling up for our pre 1378 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,840 Boston podcast? And then it just, you know, no 1379 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,680 response for a day. And I'm like, OK, probably had a 1380 01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,520 big session that day and then no response for two days. 1381 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,640 And then I was like, maybe I'll nudge him tomorrow if he doesn't 1382 01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,160 respond. And then no response for that 1383 01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:00,680 third day. And I was like, OK, something 1384 01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:04,200 might be up. So finally I'll just text him. 1385 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,800 Hey man, sorry about the the injury. 1386 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,120 We can podcast another time. So my recurring CS Mag podcast 1387 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:15,360 Co host Connor Mance has scratched from Boston. 1388 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:21,720 So that one was some unfortunate news in the last it was like 4 1389 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,520 hours ago. I think that that happened. 1390 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,040 Anything else that popped up? I think that that might be it. 1391 01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,720 Pre what what else we got Cynthia Revo's running the 1392 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:32,960 London Marathon. You excited about that? 1393 01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,080 Well, it's fun, right? She, she's run 335 or something. 1394 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,960 So can she? I think she, she locked 20 1395 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,280 minutes off her PB last time she ran one a few years ago. 1396 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:46,440 So that that's quite exciting. I read in Running World UK that 1397 01:19:46,480 --> 01:19:49,040 she's being coached because, you know, this is all through like a 1398 01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,600 Brooks partnership. She's being coached by Erica 1399 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,720 Kemp. She's very. 1400 01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:55,520 Oh, wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah and yeah. 1401 01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,520 She's currently in a one woman production of Dracula and where 1402 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,920 she plays I think 23 different roles. 1403 01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:09,600 And I looked at the calendar for the show and it runs through 1404 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,360 May. There's going to be plenty of 1405 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:16,560 shows all throughout April. And there's two performances the 1406 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,000 day before the London Marathon. There's like a matinee and then 1407 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:25,440 like an evening show. And I'm like, there's no show on 1408 01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:31,760 Sunday on race day thankfully, but that's a wild turn around to 1409 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,640 do 2. I guess it depends. 1410 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,200 It's not a Broadway musical, so you're not like moving around 1411 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,960 singing and dancing and exerting yourself a ton, but still like 1412 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,120 to do 2. Shows so one person show it's 1413 01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:46,200 that's that's still pretty intense right isn't that. 1414 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,080 Isn't that like the entire subplot of Forgetting Sarah 1415 01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:54,160 Marshall where Jason Segel's doing like a one man Dracula 1416 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,200 musical? Oh, is it I? 1417 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,680 It's, I think that's like, I think this has already happened. 1418 01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,840 Yeah, well, then she's got to go out and run a marathon. 1419 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,040 It's sort of like how people have looked at Harry Styles tour 1420 01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:13,720 dates for his shows in New York, and in particular, the Chicago 1421 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,240 Marathon weekend is blocked off. And Berlin, I think, is also 1422 01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,120 sort of blocked off. And so people are trying to, you 1423 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,560 know, connect the dots and see when he's going to, if he's 1424 01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,280 going to run another marathon. It's sort of funny that like he 1425 01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,240 runs sub three once and then now people are like, oh, he's going 1426 01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:29,400 to, he's going to go do another one. 1427 01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,040 He could have just ride off into the sunset and never run another 1428 01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,600 one ever again. Nah, he similar to Cynthia Revo. 1429 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:41,880 He has a show, I think a couple nights before, the night before 1430 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,680 the New York City Marathon, which would be a crazy turn 1431 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,600 around because the way his shows go, they're like 3 hours long. 1432 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,440 And there I've seen a video clip where someone fanned from the 1433 01:21:50,440 --> 01:21:53,800 stands, like took a video and he's like consuming like a gel. 1434 01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:56,880 And he needs that. I guess when you're doing a 1435 01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,840 three hour show and you're singing and dancing the whole 1436 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,240 entire time. But yeah, I've, I've had a 1437 01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,600 couple of runs now over the Williamsburg Bridge, no 1438 01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,000 sightings of Mr. Styles. And I've been trying to work in 1439 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,640 my head as like, oh, what? There there is a group of girls 1440 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:15,680 that are on waiting on the other side of the Williamsburg Bridge 1441 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,480 in Manhattan that they're clearly watching out. 1442 01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:21,840 It was like 4 of them and they've been there multiple 1443 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,240 days. Or they're just standing there 1444 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,120 watching people coming off of the Williamsburg Bridge in hopes 1445 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:30,480 of seeing him because he said he's been walking over that 1446 01:22:30,480 --> 01:22:34,400 bridge constantly. And I guess they're waiting for 1447 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,280 a glimpse of him or to be able to interact with him. 1448 01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:42,600 And little do they know that here I come tumbling along down 1449 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:47,080 the bridge and I'm one second faster than him in the marathon. 1450 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,080 If I told them, they probably wouldn't care. 1451 01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:54,080 But in my head, I've been trying to play through just sort of 1452 01:22:54,320 --> 01:23:00,200 what how would I approach trying to say hi to to to Harry Styles? 1453 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:05,200 Or if he's running over the bridge, would I try and keep up? 1454 01:23:05,480 --> 01:23:07,520 Would I just get dropped? I have no idea. 1455 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,520 So yeah, that's currently what I'm doing. 1456 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,600 I wonder if I just started doing Tik Toks or being like day one, 1457 01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,040 I'm running over the Williamsburg Bridge until I run 1458 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,960 into Harry Styles. But yeah, so that's that's how 1459 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,080 my running's going right now. I just don't. 1460 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:24,280 I don't know if we're going to have time to touch on My Lady 1461 01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,080 Paulino's 2O4800 because we have to hear so much about what you 1462 01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:31,280 would theoretically do. God forbid you ran into Harry 1463 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,000 Styles. Yeah, I guess there's not really 1464 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,000 much to take away from my lady probably knows 2O four. 1465 01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,320 It was solid. But really, I guess when we 1466 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,120 texted it in our group chat you were like, well this really goes 1467 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:47,560 to show how good Femka's gonna be and, and how better she is 1468 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:53,360 than than than these. Cuz 400 hurdlers and 400 runners 1469 01:23:53,480 --> 01:23:57,000 running in early season 800 isn't like all that uncommon. 1470 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,920 They run 2O four a lot. Yeah, seems to be a little 1471 01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,800 Delilah Muhammad, all that. Like we see that often. 1472 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:09,640 And so when it's Paulino, yeah, yeah, she was one second off the 1473 01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:12,040 Dominican national record. I don't know if she really cared 1474 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,200 about it or if she knew going into it that it was like 203, 1475 01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:19,640 but yeah, solid saw Delil Muhammad I think. 1476 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:20,280 Run. What was it? 1477 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,760 Two O 5? Definitely not retired. 1478 01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:24,880 Definitely not retired. Yeah, I mean, she's like, 1479 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,920 obviously we've seen her training, but but we weren't 1480 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:28,640 sure whether she's actually ever going to race or she was just 1481 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,160 going to like join the coaching staff or something. 1482 01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,480 But but yeah, clearly not retired. 1483 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,520 She said FEMC is in the 800. Sydney's pregnant. 1484 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,040 I'm going to give it a shot. Would be fairy tale ending to 1485 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,840 try and, you know, go off and retire off into the sunset with 1486 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,440 a gold medal at the World Ultimate Championships. 1487 01:24:48,440 --> 01:24:53,800 Now, this must be pretty high on her title pyramid if she chose 1488 01:24:53,800 --> 01:25:00,560 to come back anyway. All right, I think we made it 1489 01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:04,800 through a lot. This was a fun pod. 1490 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,280 Next week we'll do Boston Marathon Preview. 1491 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,080 Or we're still a week early. I think we have, I think we'll 1492 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,120 have a week early for that, yeah. 1493 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:17,080 OK, so over the next couple days you'll see a bunch of podcasts 1494 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:21,600 dropping on the feed. I've got interviews with CJ 1495 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,760 Albertson, Turner Wiley, Susanna Sullivan, Amanda Vestry. 1496 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,320 We're doing some stuff with Brooks in a lead up to the 1497 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,240 Boston Marathon, so expect a bunch of them on as guests. 1498 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,040 In addition to that, I will be chatting with Cooper Luckenhaus 1499 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:40,240 later today, so we'll recap his undefeated indoor season. 1500 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,160 They just announced that he's going to be making his Diamond 1501 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:48,200 League debut in Stockholm, so school must be out by June 7th 1502 01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:53,720 or 8th, whenever that meet is. And yeah, so lots to come on the 1503 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,240 CS Mac Podcast. 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