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If it's happening on the track, 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,280 we're covering it with real insights that sharpen minds, 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,800 deep dives into the moments that define careers and the kind of 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,760 access to the pros you won't get anywhere else. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,400 So let's get into it because we love track and field. 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,680 My guest for today's episode is Sharon Locetti, the back-to-back 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,880 Boston Marathon champion. Last month, she became only the 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,680 second athlete since 1994 to win Boston in consecutive years as 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,800 she crossed the finish line in two hours, 18 minutes and 51 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,640 seconds for her second straight crown. 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:52,640 The way she won it was extraordinary. 36 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,240 She sat patient, threw a 19 woman lead pack, waited until 37 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,280 the hills and then between 35K and 40K. 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,520 She ran a 14485 kilometer split faster than the NCAA outdoor 5K 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:10,039 record set on the track just two days before that she won by 44 40 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:12,760 seconds. Sharon won New York in 2022 in 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,600 her debut, finished fourth of the 2024 Paris Olympics, when 42 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,080 Boston in 2025 and again in 2026. 43 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,680 She's become one of the the most complete competitors in women's 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,600 marathoning, someone who doesn't need the fastest time on paper 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,360 to believe that she can beat anyone in the field on race day. 46 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,680 She also ran the entire thing on a borrowed Garmin because she 47 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,440 left her own watch at the hotel and only realized on the bus to 48 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,320 Hopkinton, and she tells that story on this show. 49 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,800 In this conversation, Sharon walks us through the build, the 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,000 pressure of returning as defending champion and how she 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,560 managed the expectation while staying grounded. 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,160 She takes us inside the race itself, covering every early 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,680 move, reading the hills, using the lead car as her focal point 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,080 during that extraordinary 35K to 40K surge and the moment she 55 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,600 finally let herself enjoy it on Boylston Street. 56 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,280 We also get into what it means to her to inspire other women 57 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,800 and how she got on with throwing out the first pitch at Henley 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,040 Park. Without further ado, here is 59 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:29,160 Sharon Lochetti. All right, now we welcome on two 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,920 time Boston Marathon champion Sharon Lochetti. 61 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Sharon, how's the celebration and the post Boston festivities 62 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,520 gone for you? What What's been the highlights 63 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,160 so far? Honestly, like not much. 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,320 I just been. We came home and it's just been 65 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:57,840 quiet, relaxing, peaceful times. So it hasn't like, you know, 66 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,680 it's just, it's been like some time to just get it all in and 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,800 let it sink. How much I guess, like pressure 68 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,840 build up do you feel before something like Boston? 69 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,720 And then afterwards when you have these moments to calm down, 70 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,400 like it's got to feel so, so different. 71 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,279 It does. It does I would say right? 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,519 Before honestly, like training wise, like everything seems 73 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:24,320 right until like the last week, you know when you're travelling 74 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,680 and then you. Get to the hotel. 75 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,080 Room and then. You. 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,200 Just have so many things to do and it's just, you know, if you. 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Feel like you just. There's just so much that you've 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,360 done, you've done that it feels. Like you know before. 79 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,280 The race you're like. I'm so tired, you know, But you 80 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:42,160 know, just doing, I feel like. Just the the. 81 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,600 The the things that you have to do, then being nervous and, and, 82 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,840 and the expectation that you have for yourself and maybe 83 00:04:48,840 --> 00:04:49,960 just. What everyone is? 84 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,040 Expecting of you sometimes can be a little bit too much, but I 85 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,200 think just, you know, staying grounded and trying to remember 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,240 all the special moments and, and, and, and the training and 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,080 the work that you've you've put in. 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,000 I think it helps quite a bit. And then you get to the race and 89 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,680 you run and then you're done and. 90 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,360 You get a good. Result or you get. 91 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,880 What you really wanted then you're just riding on a high for 92 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:19,760 some time until you know you are back home and you can now like. 93 00:05:20,280 --> 00:05:25,000 Really like oh this it it. Happened, you know, and so it's 94 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,560 really nice. But I think for me this time it 95 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 was very overwhelming. It was exciting. 96 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,760 But it was just. A lot of like. 97 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,880 You know. I just felt like it. 98 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,960 Was it was nice. It was cool. 99 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,720 It was just being. Present. 100 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,280 And then I get home and I'm like, I, I'm tired now, yeah. 101 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:47,480 Yeah, your social battery is just totally done, Yeah. 102 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,240 Yes, yes, yes. OK, So you got the best possible 103 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,800 scenario and ending to Boston where you got the Victory 218, 104 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,080 great fast time, excellent performance. 105 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,120 Now I want to go back to just sort of the lead up in those 106 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,320 kind of final weeks because The thing is, when you when I go to 107 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 the press conference, everyone lies. 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,240 Everyone says they had the best build up of their life, that 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,960 they're the in the best shape of their life. 110 00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:18,920 For you, was it? Where was your confidence? 111 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,680 And like, how would you kind of reflect upon this build? 112 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,480 It was a good. Build I mean, I, I to be honest, 113 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,120 like I didn't have anything major. 114 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,720 That I was like. Worried, but there was a. 115 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,720 Few times where I remember I could like my I'm like, oh, you 116 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,200 know you and I feel like with I think it comes with the 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:35,560 nervousness and knowing that it's. 118 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:36,480 Close. It just has. 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,680 To feel some small things here and there and you know, and 120 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,320 sometimes it's like with your mind, it can be big. 121 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,880 But I think for me, it wasn't something that I was like. 122 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:48,480 But I had. Like a knee, think you. 123 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,360 Know go a little. Bit sorry, I'm talking so 124 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,200 healing a little bit and it was it was just something that you 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,040 know, it was there. It was there, but I just said to 126 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,120 be very. I don't know, I think my. 127 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,160 Like I just. Said to, to, to, to. 128 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,960 Always remember. That OK, yes I have it, but just 129 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,960 be that take. All the things that you could 130 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,160 do, recovery and everything, and I think even like my last long 131 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,960 runs, we just went a bit slower and just try to make sure. 132 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,120 That we're just. Not overdoing too much. 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,560 Just to be. Able that we're maintaining it 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,360 and then yeah, you get into the race and you. 135 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,200 Feel like you see? Everyone else posting their 136 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,920 workouts and everything and it just. 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Starts to get to. You. 138 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,640 Maybe mine is a bit, you know, I'm not quite there or I'm not 139 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,880 quite fit, but you know, it's, it's a marathon, it's different. 140 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Everyone comes prepared and I know I. 141 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,560 I For me, I was just like I. Just have to be myself, just put 142 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,280 in the work, stay present and and and hopefully. 143 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,200 It gets it gets better as we go. For me, I felt like it was. 144 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,480 After you know, we. Were all still together halfway. 145 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,080 Through even through almost attic and I'm like this is you 146 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,440 know, I I look at these women and I'm like definitely have all 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,560 of them are very. Fast. 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,480 They have speed. In their in their fists and 149 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:03,680 stuff. So I was. 150 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Like you know, maybe this is the time that I need to do something 151 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,040 and just make. Do that a little. 152 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Bit pushy and then see how it goes. 153 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,320 And then you kept looking at a watch that didn't even belong to 154 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,880 you. Tell the story, I guess, of 155 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,280 waking up, getting on the bus and forgetting about one of the 156 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,280 most important parts of race day is your watch. 157 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,200 It's actually very crazy because two days before. 158 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,640 I went to a gaming, I got an appearance and my watch has been 159 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,400 like usually. Like I have it, but it's like 160 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,280 it's it's. Dark, so I couldn't. 161 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:37,880 See it? And I was like, oh, can you help 162 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,440 me like fix this? And Sydney gave me a new watch. 163 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,320 She's like, oh, actually. Just don't worry, here's it. 164 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,640 So I had. 2 watches. I had two. 165 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,960 And the night before I charged them, I charged my watch and 166 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:55,440 then I charged the other one. But somehow I I I got everything 167 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,960 except the one and. We're just like. 168 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,200 Riding halfway through, I'm like Steven. 169 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:06,400 I look at my hand, nothing. I'm like shoot and. 170 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,440 Then he was like. Steven wanted to give me his 171 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,560 Apple Watch. I'm like, no, no, I am not like 172 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,200 used to an Apple Watch and I don't know like anything I and 173 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:19,000 maybe I will be getting notification somehow when I'm 174 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,040 running. So that's but then he he looked 175 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,320 back and he got like one of his friends and Steven. 176 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,480 So he. Also Steven, I guess so he. 177 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Gave us his watch and you know, I I just needed something that I 178 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,320 will know where I am and what pace I'm going and just make 179 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,800 sure that I'm in like once I get a certain rhythm. 180 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,600 I just go with that. So I think it. 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,280 Did the work perfectly. And I'm. 182 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,680 Grateful for it because. Then it was also already set up 183 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:47,160 in. Kilometers, which was perfect. 184 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,400 How do you think you would have done without the watch if you 185 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,240 would have worn anything? I don't think I. 186 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,720 I had already said my. I think I was. 187 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,480 I had already set my mind that I'm not thinking I I am. 188 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,320 Definitely, I just try. To not think about it, but it's 189 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,600 something you're used to. It's like I the. 190 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,840 Only time I take off my watch is when I'm charging usually I have 191 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,560 my watch every single time. So it's. 192 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,320 I don't. Know he would have. 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,120 I don't know how he would have gone, but honestly. 194 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,880 I feel like I I just. Was like mentally prepared no 195 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,080 matter the circumstances. I was just ready. 196 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,800 To, to, to, you know, to compete. 197 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,000 And yes, it would have been. And I think at that point when 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,040 it's like. You start to to. 199 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,440 Get into a certain rhythm and you hold into that, I feel. 200 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Like I've I've. Done really good work with in my 201 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,760 training that I could. Just hold into that. 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,680 Place and just build on it. So maybe. 203 00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:37,360 That would have. I would have done that instead, 204 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,840 but yeah, I honestly cannot even. 205 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,080 Fathom how it. Would have been like. 206 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,920 So you keep talking about, I guess, like in the first half of 207 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,320 the race, you know, in Boston, not a ton always happens. 208 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,920 Like the pack stays together after this, you know, now we 209 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,440 start to get into the lower Newton Falls and and the the 210 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,960 hills. What were some of the key 211 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,840 decisions you had to make before ultimately, you know, by 30 K, 212 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,320 you're the one who, you know, makes the big move. 213 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,920 But before that, were there any little moves that you had to 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,840 react to or that you thought were OK? 215 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,560 This is important that I cover this. 216 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,640 I think it was like I had like the first of the the 1st. 217 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,600 Few everyone was just. Sitting and and waiting and and 218 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,760 and just trying to see like, you know, what moves are made, moves 219 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:26,120 are made. And I think it was someone made 220 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:27,960 a move and everyone was. Like there was a. 221 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Girl in front. And then someone else went and. 222 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:32,480 I I could hear that the other girls were like. 223 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,600 OK, this is maybe the time we should all, you know, move. 224 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:38,240 I think it was any. Frisbee. 225 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,200 So we just. Went and and when she made that. 226 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,920 Move. I was like, OK. 227 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,160 Let's we just cover. It and then we stay there and 228 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,360 then we covered it and then everyone also is. 229 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Like he's like. You know so. 230 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,360 It's like it's. You just wait and wait and wait. 231 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,680 But then, yeah, when we started hitting the heels and I was. 232 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:55,040 Like this is this. Is when we need to to do 233 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,640 something and I think the first one was like a. 234 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,440 Little bit OK, just trying to figure out how. 235 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,240 Everyone is doing and then the the second one was. 236 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Like, OK, let's just. Go and go. 237 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,360 With it and yeah. I think before the. 238 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Heartbreak. Hill is when I was. 239 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Like OK, this is where I get. To see. 240 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,120 What I still got and build from here and just go. 241 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,280 How different was it not having Helen, because she's one of 242 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,960 those people who can press and make it fast? 243 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,200 This time you had Lois, and Lois, I think, was maybe 244 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,320 probably the person who was pushing you the most. 245 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,480 How much did you know before the race about Lois's potential? 246 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,920 I mean, she had run. Before like a 60. 4 so I. 247 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Knew you know she was. She was she was really ready 248 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,240 for. But you know there. 249 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Was other people. Like Irene and and and and you 250 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:46,440 know, Jess and. So there. 251 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,080 Was a few other people that I was like. 252 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,040 You and these people. Would definitely no matter. 253 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,760 What they will push. So I knew, you know, we just 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,760 have to. To be like with. 255 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Them and and see what they do And and maybe. 256 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,680 Build out of of. That and I mean it was a bit 257 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:03,360 different like I feel like that maybe the last few kilometres is 258 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,280 when usually. I have you have. 259 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,960 People there and is. Usually there to like. 260 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,320 But this time it was. Just you're just by. 261 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Yourself. You want to look back, but you 262 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,840 can't really, because then you don't know how far everyone else 263 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,760 is. And, you know, in my mind I kept 264 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,640 thinking maybe I went a bit too early and I should have waited a 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,280 little bit and. You know as you go here. 266 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,840 You're really asking yourself so many, so many questions, but 267 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,400 then at that time you're like, maybe it's a good thing I did. 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,800 What was your signal to go? Because you know when you have 269 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:37,280 that 35K to 40K stretch that was so impressive, like what 270 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,440 happened there. I just get into the rhythm and I 271 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,080 look in and I just think about it. 272 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:44,520 At that time I was just, I'm like. 273 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,400 Just. Follow the car. 274 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,960 Just follow the car as. Close as you. 275 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,560 Can and every time I get. Close. 276 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:50,760 It speeds up. So then I was thinking about 277 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,920 when, you know, Jacob Kapimo ran and they. 278 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,160 Said the car was. Facing him. 279 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,560 So I was like, maybe that's what they were thinking, but to me I 280 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:58,960 was using that as a. As a? 281 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,320 As a. You know, like just something to 282 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,640 that I could focus on and and and use that to to get to get 283 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,840 going. 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The Apex Four starts at $429, 339 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,880 and both are available now through Wahoo directly. 340 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,560 Wahoo already redefined indoor training for cyclists. 341 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,599 They did it again for runners with the Kicker Run, and now 342 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,760 they've got watches that go along with it. 343 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,360 One system, inside and out. You can learn more at 344 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:37,320 wahoofitness.com. We saw the mile splits and those 345 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,360 were impressive, but you were looking and you saw kilometer 346 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:42,120 splits. Was there anything that 347 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,880 surprised you? I was. 348 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,400 Looking like the first. One I think I. 349 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,280 Saw was at 2. 50 and I'm like oh. 350 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Shoot. But then, but then I'm like, you 351 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,120 know, then I, I didn't really want to to. 352 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,640 To really put it. Too much into like, think about 353 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,960 like, oh, if I'm I'm going too. Fast or too slow, I was just 354 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,040 like just be. In this moment and just. 355 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,840 Push as hard. As you can. 356 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,520 So all I was thinking is like, just step by the step, you know, 357 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,400 because I'm thinking of the people behind. 358 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:09,680 So I have. To also. 359 00:18:10,120 --> 00:18:13,200 Make sure that I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to get faster or maintain 360 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,720 that person for hold it for as long as I could. 361 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,040 So many people, I guess I can point to different variety of 362 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:23,040 factors, the weather, the shoes, the fuelling, I guess for you, 363 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,720 unpack each one of those for me. So how much of the wind did you 364 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,440 feel? And then also you had the 365 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,360 velocity Elite threes within your own special color. 366 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:36,520 I mean, how have all these different things contributed to, 367 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,160 you know, you being able to feel good enough in those late stages 368 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,840 to, to, you know, run as fast as you did? 369 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,040 I know for me it's like. I always like I I tried to. 370 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,400 Bring to remember. All the the the people. 371 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,640 That, you know, have helped me and and and support me and I 372 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,840 know they're, you know, watching and wanting the best for me and 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:58,280 also. I felt like it's. 374 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,640 Just like. Having like, you know, wearing 375 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,120 the shoe that everyone you know. We we had. 376 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:07,920 Talked about it and and seen in the days before and you know now 377 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,240 having it in my. Yes, it's still. 378 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,160 The same shoe, but it's your own colour like. 379 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,000 You know, it's, it's very, it's very it's. 380 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,600 Very different, so it felt very. Special SO. 381 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,800 In a way I was just thinking, I'm like, you know, I'm. 382 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,440 Grateful. I'm grateful for. 383 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,040 For. For the shoe I'm. 384 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,960 Grateful for the people that that that. 385 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,160 Put their thought into it. I'm. 386 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:28,000 Grateful for. You know, everyone that helped 387 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,720 me in my training, everyone that's. 388 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:32,800 Because to get there you really like. 389 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,680 You have so much that goes into it and you have so many people. 390 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,920 That help you help you to get there. 391 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,080 So it's just like. When I'm running I'm thinking 392 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,960 about those things and and I'm just like. 393 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,440 Gracious and grateful for for all of. 394 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,120 Those and, you know, I try to think I'm like the only thing I 395 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:53,160 could, you know, say thank you is just run fast and and and and 396 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,520 win and hopefully, you know. That's that's what I could I 397 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,320 could offer. So yeah, it it. 398 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,080 Definitely be like. Played the huge role. 399 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,880 You talked about being locked in and in those final meters, not 400 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,920 looking back, so you had no idea just sort of where the 401 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,760 competition was, how far back Irene or Mary or Mercy was 402 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,360 behind you. But you had a big lead. 403 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,120 Did you allow yourself to enjoy the moment a little bit more 404 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,880 because you weren't necessarily in a step for step battle with 405 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,680 Helen when you were coming off of Boyle Stand? 406 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:30,800 What do you remember about the final 2 kilometers and the 407 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,960 crowds and that kind of stuff? I mean, the crowds, I feel like. 408 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,880 Worth it most you could. Ever, You know, it's like 409 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,360 everyone is like, that's gone, you know? 410 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,560 But it's like the. Last two kilometres. 411 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,160 You're still so far away. You still don't know how much, 412 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,200 and that's still in a marathon. That's a lot. 413 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Anything can happen. So I felt. 414 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Like for me I. I really started enjoying once I 415 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,760 turned on Boston St. and I could see the finish line. 416 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,160 That's why I could. I I started to like. 417 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,560 Enjoy and appreciate. But like before that, I was 418 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,320 still very. Very like nervous and and and 419 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,040 wishing I could see or someone can tell me how. 420 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,400 Far the other. Person is. 421 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,720 But it's like it's. Just that time it's you're yes. 422 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,200 You want to be proud and, and and joyful and, and, you know. 423 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,800 Celebrate, but you also have to still be aware. 424 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 That it's. Still a race and no matter what 425 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,720 anyone is can come back and and claim the, you know, the win. 426 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,560 So I had to make sure. That I've secured it well first 427 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,840 before. I start celebrating so. 428 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,800 So the year before you ran 217, this time around 218. 429 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Did 1 feel harder than the other? 430 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,680 Yes, I I felt like the. The first. 431 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,200 One fell harder. Like I last year it felt harder 432 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,440 because. It it was fast. 433 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,720 From from from the start and I think I've. 434 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,480 Like if I I've watched that. Race and I think I. 435 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,120 Was I got dropped? Twice. 436 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,840 You know and and. It just was like there was. 437 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Just so much. Like the? 438 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,280 Pace would go fast and then it goes it slows. 439 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,120 Down so it. Was a little bit of like all 440 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:07,120 over the place. So it was not like smooth run. 441 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,760 It was just. A bit too much of like fat leg 442 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,680 pace and then. We go. 443 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,920 Back to like. Tempo and then so it. 444 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,040 Was all over the. Place I think like that was even 445 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,360 mentally I felt like. That was a bit. 446 00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:22,160 Harder than than this time, but also this time it was not as 447 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,920 easy as you would think, because also you. 448 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,160 Have the pressure of like, oh you. 449 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,400 Have to defend it you have to make sure that you don't you're 450 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,600 you're you're coming back ready and and fitting you know not 451 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,720 having. The people. 452 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,640 That you're used to. Racing all the time was also 453 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,440 different, but then. It's a race that different like 454 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,520 what I've. Learned over. 455 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,080 The years is like. Every race is. 456 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,240 Different and no matter. The people that you. 457 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,360 Have you never know what comes prepared and ready for? 458 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,720 So I'm always I'm like. Just be grateful, Just. 459 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,160 You know, be humble about it and just. 460 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:55,280 Be take it. As a? 461 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,760 As a? As a. 462 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,440 As a new race, a different, completely different race, and 463 00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,840 and. You know, respects. 464 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,520 The the people that you're. With and, you know. 465 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Hopefully help each other throughout the the race. 466 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,760 So you had a couple days to celebrate and then everyone in 467 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,840 the world then turns their attention and watches London. 468 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,320 When you watch sort of that race and you see the results that 469 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480 came out of it, what do you, what do you think? 470 00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:22,160 World records being like broken up and down. 471 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,200 I mean, that's something, you know. 472 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,040 To be really. Like inspired and and I feel 473 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,160 like it, you know? For for people. 474 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,680 Someone like for the men? To two people. 475 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,280 To run some. 2 that's that's. Crazy fast. 476 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,320 You know it's it's. Unbelievably fast, but also. 477 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,240 To have the women. Also every. 478 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,160 I feel like they're. Breaking women's only record. 479 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,960 Like it's, it's, it's, it's just. 480 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,680 It makes you so. Excited about? 481 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,040 Running and and once and and knowing that we could you. 482 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,440 Yourself. Can be able to. 483 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,160 Be in that dress. And and compete with those 484 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,520 people and. It just. 485 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,360 Gives me so much. To to look forward. 486 00:24:02,360 --> 00:24:06,360 To and, and, you know, just appreciate how women running 487 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,920 he's getting and and and faster and how everyone is, you know, 488 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,520 even just seeing Ellen being in that race and, and competing and 489 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,640 knowing that I've I've run with her and, you know, it gives me 490 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,080 so much. To to look forward. 491 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,480 To and you know, like I could also run that fast, so. 492 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,400 I think a lot of people have an obsession with fast times, 493 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,200 right? Like that's what they see. 494 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,680 And that's so much easier to think, OK, because this person 495 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,200 ran faster, they're better than this person. 496 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,400 But it's not exactly that science. 497 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,120 If you guys all end up in the same race, which is when we see 498 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:41,760 it happen is at the Olympics, the results can look very 499 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,960 different. What do you think makes you such 500 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,800 a good competitor where it's like you don't necessarily need 501 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,400 the fast PB on paper to have the confidence to know, hey, I can 502 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,960 probably beat this person because I think like even when 503 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,400 we saw in Boston, you know, Irene is a 217 person and she 504 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,680 finishes all the way in 6th. Like Jess doesn't have to can't 505 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,920 enter the race thinking, oh, just because she's 217 doesn't 506 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,440 mean I could beat her. And so you're one of those 507 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,480 people who does that on the highest level because the people 508 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,880 you're trying to beat are those people who are running world 509 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,720 records. So what do you think makes you 510 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,120 such a good competitor? I think. 511 00:25:22,120 --> 00:25:23,560 I'm still trying to find out that. 512 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040 One, but I'm also I don't know, I I I. 513 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,600 I feel like every like I. Get to the race and and I get 514 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,920 put in a race. I just. 515 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,160 Like I'm, I'm just. Ready to compete I. 516 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,800 I. I, you know, I just enjoy being 517 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800 in, in, I don't know, challenging. 518 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240 I would say, but to be honest. It's like it's just. 519 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,680 I think appreciating and, and just enjoying the moment and, 520 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,600 and being in that time and you know. 521 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,280 A few. Years ago, I never thought I 522 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520 would be in this position. I never thought I'll be in those 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,720 races and but now I'm there and and it's just so humbling that 524 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,480 it gives me so much to. To, to, to, to. 525 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,760 To appreciate and, and to look forward and, and to always want 526 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,360 to like, inspire and, and you know. 527 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,120 So. I think it's just knowing that 528 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,200 where I came from and and what I'm, I know I'm still capable of 529 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,400 doing and just putting myself there and being there and being 530 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,840 present and just competing and just being fierce, I think. 531 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,560 You keeps adding more and more experience with each of these 532 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,360 marathons, and you each, after each one, you probably learn 533 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,040 something new about the course, the race or yourself. 534 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,720 What do you hope to 'cause now you've got, you know, a fall 535 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,120 marathon in, you know, somewhere. 536 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,960 What do you hope to learn more about the marathon or yourself 537 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,200 in the next one? I think with marathon, depending 538 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,280 on where you go, yes the courses might be different and and but. 539 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,240 I think you're always. Trying to figure out. 540 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,680 Like. Yes, there are a. 541 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,960 Few things that work for you, but you're. 542 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,000 Always still trying to figure out what I can do better next 543 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,920 time or what I can improve. And even with my training, I. 544 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,520 There's workouts that I. Do and I'm like. 545 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,880 Oh, I really like. There's been like workouts. 546 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,480 That we do. I'm like, oh, I'm used to doing 547 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,480 this. But then sometimes you do it a 548 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,920 different way and you're like, oh. 549 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,440 Actually that works better, so just. 550 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,400 Try. I think it's just still trying 551 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320 to figure out. Like. 552 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,960 What's the best thing I. Could do to better. 553 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:25,160 Myself or to better my running. But I think for me, it's just 554 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,720 always just trying to be as humble as I could be and and you 555 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,880 know. Hopefully that helps build. 556 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,480 You know a different character and helps me be. 557 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,440 You know the. Athlete that I could. 558 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,760 Be and you know, hopefully someone else could see this and 559 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,320 be mentored with it and you know, I just hope you know, I I. 560 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,160 Everywhere. I go, I have so many people that 561 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,760 are like, you know, Sharon, we, we are very grateful and we like 562 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,400 how you compete and all this stuff and that that makes a big 563 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,240 difference. It even when I'm racing, I try 564 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,600 to think of those things and it just makes me so much, you know, 565 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,760 grateful and, and, and, you know, I just want to, I'm like, 566 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,520 OK, you know, bring my inner fierceness. 567 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,720 And, and even in Boston, there was a girl, I think I don't know 568 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,080 how many kilometres in. She was like, I believe in you 569 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,440 ladies, you can do this, you know, something like that. 570 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,640 It just changes everything and for me, I just kept thinking of 571 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,360 that guy, even when I was like struggling and and and was so 572 00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,120 hard. I just kept thinking of that and 573 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,200 it just gives me gave me so much. 574 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,600 To, to, to. To be. 575 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,320 More like it motivated me. I would say all. 576 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,040 Right. So two more quick questions. 577 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,760 Did you get your bag, the one that you wanted to splurge on 578 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,480 for with with your prize money? No, really. 579 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,400 Not yet. We got something else. 580 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,600 All right. You threw out the first pitch at 581 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360 the Red Sox game. How nervous were you? 582 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,640 And I guess what was that experience like? 583 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,320 It. Was a really honestly I. 584 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,560 I think we got the best ball and we were practicing even from 585 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,720 breakfast, like just trying to like get, you know, a good 586 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,720 swinging, even the dinner. Before we were just like trying 587 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440 to like. Ideas and and I was getting 588 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,040 like, oh you need you should do it like this and this and. 589 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,880 I think it's like I think. I was more nervous for that than 590 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800 I was for the first. But it was actually, it was a 591 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,720 really. Really good experience, like 592 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,160 even the day. Before we were like. 593 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,560 Practicing outside the hotel and that was super. 594 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,080 Cool. And you know to. 595 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Get to. The to the. 596 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000 Actual stadium and everyone is out there and you know when 597 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,560 you're practicing in the stadium before everyone sits down it's 598 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,960 like, oh, it's not that much people until you get to the 599 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640 stadium and everyone is sitting and everyone is looking at you 600 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,560 that. That was it. 601 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,400 Was very nervous. But it was. 602 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,320 An experience I. Was I? 603 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,280 I will. Always remember, it's like those 604 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,120 moments and memories that you make. 605 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680 So now you have to win Boston again and then throw it, throw, 606 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,880 throw the first pitch again and just keep doing it. 607 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120 Make it an annual tradition. Yeah, there you go. 608 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440 True, I really enjoyed watching the game. 609 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,320 Honestly, I I I'd never been and. 610 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,480 That was, that was. It was very nice to to to. 611 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,320 Be in it and experience it. Well, Sharon, congratulations 612 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,680 once again on an incredible Boston and looking forward to 613 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,960 seeing more great things from you later this year when you 614 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,040 return to another marathon on the roads and, you know, 615 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280 continue to stack that experience as one of the best 616 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,120 marathoners in the world. Thank you. 617 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Thanks for having me. I really. 618 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,560 Appreciate it. All right, that's a wrap on 619 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 today's episode. Thanks for listening, for the 620 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,800 time, the curiosity, and for making this show part of your 621 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,920 routine or your run. 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