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I'm your host Chris Chavez, and 

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My guest for today's episode is 
the greatest 1500m runner in 

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history. 
It is the one and only 5th Kippy

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Aegon in Tokyo. 
She won her record setting 4th 

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World Championship 1500 meter 
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That's seven global golds in 
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Olympic titles. 
It is a reign that now stretches

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over 4 years and 22 straight 
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That 1500 meter final was also a
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She LED from the gun and never 
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She won in 352.15. 
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seconds, the largest margin of 
any of her global titles. 

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It was Faith at her purest, 
precise, patient, and 

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untouchable. 
In this episode, we'll talk to 

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Faith about how she continues to
perfect the impossible by 

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breaking world records three 
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The lessons from Breaking 4 
racing not for Dominus, but for 

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that legacy. 
She's won everything that there 

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is to win, yet somehow it still 
feels like she's getting better 

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and better. 
Faith to being on has redefined 

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what greatness on the track 
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So without further ado, here is 
the GOAT. 

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Faye, welcome to New York City. 
Thank you. 

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I visit you all the way out in 
Kenya. 

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Now you get to come to to my 
hometown. 

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Imagine it's fun, right? 
Yeah. 

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What do you think of New York 
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It's a beautiful city. 
It was my first time last year 

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coming here and this is my 
second time. 

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So I feel home, I feel it's 
really amazing city. 

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Lots of bright lights. 
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it's crazy. 
And you know, people walk like 

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24 hours, 24/7. 
You just, you know, when you 

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wake up, you're still here. 
The whole, the, the car's going,

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the people talks down there and 
I'm like, oh, people are not 

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sleeping. 
They're, you know, walking. 

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Yeah, it's October. 
It's felt like a. 

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Well, it's been. 
A long year, right, with racing 

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all the way since April up until
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keep yourself engaged and and 
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Because even after a World 
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lot of people it could be hard 
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Yeah, I would say it's not easy,
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until, you know, September and 
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still, you know, training. 
I was still training for this 

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event in in New York for the at 
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It's take a lot of, you know, 
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It's take a lot of determination
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wake up early in the morning and
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So for me, I will say it was 
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the season April and then end in
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But I think I read Hugh 
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And you know, preparing for 
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really helped me a lot. 
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train very hard or just focus 
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I knew I have few races and a 
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all. 
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towards this coming Friday. 
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with with coach Patrick Sang, 
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block was for breaking 4. 
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after. 
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little bit of just OK, we got to
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championship season because you 
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card for the 1500 and the 5K for
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the Kenyan trials. 
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easier season to try to 
structure a little different? 

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you know, having training the 
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having a dream of breaking fall 
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you know, cool down a little bit
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champs. 
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events, 15 and 5:00. 
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have some breath train and just,
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a little bit to just focus 
myself knowing that I still have

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long season until October 10th. 
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the season and I'm looking 
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it. 
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Classic and we spoke right after
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breaking four. 
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and you broke the 1500 meter 
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And so for, for there, what did 
that tell you about just sort of

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your, your fitness, the 
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saw? 
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and things are good for the, the
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If I could keep this. 
It was it was really fun, you 

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know, to, you know, train for 
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for So for me, I will say going 
to, you know, coming for prick 

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Fontaine after, you know, 
attempting something special, 

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really open my mind that the 
world record was possible. 

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So I was just like believing in 
myself and knowing that I did 

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all I could to, you know, do 
that breaking fall and I knew I 

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was in good shape. 
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So I was just like, you know, 
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it. 
So I just ran like, I even don't

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know because I was like, I could
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was like really going for it. 
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just, you know, run 348 and that
was really fun. 

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Then after that, you lined up 
the 3K world record attempt, and

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that's a record, very 
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And then at the same time, you 
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beginning of the year, try and 
go for it. 

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Then you go for it and it was 
close, so close. 

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I mean, why did you want that, 
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I was like I'm capable of and 
I'm I still believe that one of 

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us is capable. 
Maybe 8 obituaries or myself or 

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another athlete will one day 
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It's possible. 
It's very hard. 

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It's not easy. 
I tried myself, I ran eight O 7 

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and I was feeling like 
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I was, I was dead after the 
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And when I couldn't see the 
time, I was like maybe I ran 811

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or 18. 
I was surprised at the end. 

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I was like 8 or 7. 
That was very close. 

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But and then I got like 
motivated like one day, one 

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time, I'm going to try again. 
Maybe, yeah, we never know. 

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Next year is another year and I 
hope one day, one time, I'm 

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going to go very close. 
What is it a 3K performance like

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that eight O 7 tell you then for
your preparations for World 

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Championships, for the 5K, if 
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and all that stuff, like it was 
similar to what, you know, 1357,

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what Beatrice ran. 
It's kind of like equal. 

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I think that's how World 
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But for you after that race, 
what did it tell you about the 

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5K? 
Because you chose not to race 

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one before world champs? 
Yeah, To be honest, it's really 

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motivated me. 
I lost, you know, doing the 

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three K before world 
Championship was was fun because

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I was like this is my longest 
like distance of the year before

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world champs. 
So I did like miles, like mile 

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and 1500 before world 
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confident. 
That's confident. 

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Like how will I do the 5000 in 
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any longer, longer event? 
So my team made a decision that 

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I tried to, you know, do a 
longer distance like 3000 or 

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5000. 
But 5000 was not possible and 

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3000 was the the, the possible 
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And it was very close to world 
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And I was like, yeah, it's 
really good to taste myself, to 

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taste the endurance and, and, 
and see how far I am. 

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And I was so happy to just, you 
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I was so disappointed. 
But I know I was. 

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I was in good shape. 
So as this is all happening, 

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then you know, Beatrice is 
running 5K's on the Diamond 

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League and she's closing those 
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The final 200 is is is crazy. 
When I watch it, it's just she 

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looks so strong and she 
accelerates so fast. 

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What does that tell you then? 
You know, in practice of like, 

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you have to be ready to also 
close in in Tokyo because you're

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going to meet her in the 5K. 
Yeah, I was, you know, I knew 

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she was very strong. 
Beatrice is my friend. 

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And, you know, running that 
1358, I couldn't expect more 

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than, you know, beating her or 
this year. 

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Like, you know, I knew she was 
the strongest this year and for 

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me, for my confident, I lost. 
Like, you know, if you have 

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1358, you knew you had like 
nobody will piss me in the world

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championship. 
You know, the confident is very 

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high. 
So for me I was like, let me 

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just pin myself, run my race and
just join high in the distance 

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and just enjoy the world 
championship. 

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And you know, when it's come to 
different things whereby you 

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know, you taste pacemaker, you 
know, you, you, you, you get 

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help. 
But world championship with 

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solo, both, you know, medals and
I was so grateful to come back 

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home with the silver medals in 
the 5000. 

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She has a lot of admiration for 
you. 

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You, you call her your friend. 
I see the Tik Toks that the two 

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of you post together. 
And so is that also like for 

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you? 
How do you find the balance of 

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like, yeah, I'm, I'm your 
friend. 

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But then at the same time on the
track, it's like for 15 minutes 

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we got to be competitors. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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You know, this is, this is all 
about like, you know, we need 

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each other outside that track. 
We need each other outside. 

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You know what we do because 
friendship matters a lot and for

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us, when we are together, we are
so close. 

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We walk around, we do TikTok 
together, we just have fun 

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outside that truck. 
But when it comes to 

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competition, the better the best
athlete win and and that is what

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we are happy of. 
Like we have strong women in 

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sports and that is what fans 
like to see. 

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You know, that patrol on the 
track and and see friendship 

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outside there and that's really,
really motivated me. 

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And and like we give example to 
other other people or other 

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athletes to know that besides 
what we do, we all need, we also

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need friendship in our lives. 
Did she ever ask you for advice?

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Oh, yeah, we normally, we eat 
together. 

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I eat with her sometimes, I join
her for travel sometimes. 

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And we just advise each other 
like, you know, we are women and

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we need more women to just, you 
know, we need to motivate each 

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other. 
We we need to push ourselves, 

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you know, found that they have 
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is the way to go. 
Like, you know, if we have three

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or five women in this sports, 
strong, strong like us, we can, 

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you know, motivate many young 
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So then let's talk about Tokyo. 
When you get there in the 1500s,

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then it's like you had a very 
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time around. 
And we almost had the the sweep.

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stuck out to me was in the the 
semi final round when you turn 

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around and you see Dorcas right 
behind you, you were so happy. 

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Why? 
It was really, you know, it was 

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really fun to just have three, 
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this year at the Tokyo World 
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I'm alone and normally I just 
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have to to do anything I could 
to just bring the gold medal 

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back home. 
So but I was happy this year to 

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just have strong, you know, 
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me in the finals. 
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Dorcas and she told me, Faith, I
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just, you know, make it to the 
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And I told her, yeah, I will 
make it faster and just see 

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where you are and I will help 
you out to just make it to the 

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final. 
And it was really fun and happy 

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moment for me to see how qualify
for the final. 

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She's still young. 
It was a fast world championship

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in this in in her career. 
And you're not going back home 

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with a silver medal. 
That was really surprising. 

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Yeah, you're still going strong.
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run, you know, 347 in the, in 
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But down the road, I mean, like 
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other generation of Kenyan 1500 
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Like do you see potential there 
that also like, hey, they could 

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get close to you know, in the in
the right year and with some 

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time? 
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a lot now that I'm still running
with them, that learning a lot 

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for me and that like yeah, we 
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motivated to know that when you 
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is stealing sevens for Kenya. 
So I hope they will do a missing

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job and I will leave the button 
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longer distance and I'm 
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They're very strong and coming 
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I want to talk about the move to

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longer distance, but before, 
before that the final, I think 

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that the 1500 meter final this 
year, your performance there was

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the best executed performance 
for gold. 

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I mean just the way that if you 
look at the splits, you squeeze 

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the. 
Life out of your. 

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Competitors lap by lap, every 
100 meters. 

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You were you were leading. 
Take me through the the sitting 

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down and devising the race plan 
before the race. 

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Like what were you thinking was 
going to be the plan? 

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Before the, the, the start of of
1500 or before the race day, I 

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was planning the race and 
removing the plans from, you 

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know, I was, I was everywhere. 
Can I go slow? 

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Can I go fast or can I run 
tactical race? 

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So I was thinking a lot and, you
know, replaying my races from 

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Budapest, seeing what I did, but
I was like this race I have to 

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just run like 355 pace to just 
win that gold medal because you 

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know, everybody was very strong.
Everybody was going for that 

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gold medal. 
But I knew I was, you know, I 

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was just stronger then. 
That's why I told you if you 

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have the fastest time, the 
confidence is very high. 

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So for me, I was like I'm the 
fastest here this year. 

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I broke the world record 348. 
Nobody is, nobody is very close 

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to me. 
Maybe 351 or 352 is the closest 

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one. 
So I was like I will make it 

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hard and just go for that gold 
medal with time of below 355 and

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I was surprised to run 352. 
Before that, you're watching the

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other races you're seeing. 
Everyone's talking about it. 

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Why is everything so slow in 
Tokyo? 

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It's so tactical. 
There's a lot of surprises in 

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the men's races, like falls, all
this stuff happening. 

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Did you start to think about 
that too? 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
Yes. 

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You know, after I saw like many 
people were falling in the heat,

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the fastest times, people who 
had the fastest time, like 1500,

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the guy from France fell down. 
I was like, Oh my goodness, he 

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was, he was medal contendant. 
Like, you know, he could have 

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won maybe in the middle. 
But then he on the heat, he fell

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down and I was like, Oh my 
goodness, even if you have 

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fastest time, you can still 
fall. 

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So you have to be just yourself 
and run your race and be be 

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smart. 
So I was like, Oh my goodness, I

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have to be smart from the heat 
to the finals and I was so glad 

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that everything went well. 
And The thing is when you devise

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a plan in your head of her to 
run 355 at the same time, so 

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many people have raised, you 
know, their training, their 

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their fitness, and they believe 
that they're in 355 shape too. 

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Like that I think opens up the 
metals to 5-6 different people. 

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So the race starts and it goes 
64 for the first lap, 

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everybody's still in it, 63 
second lap, everybody's still in

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it. 
And then you look, I mean, I 

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could tell from looking at the 
screens when you notice 

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everyone's still in it. 
Then the 62nd lap lap happens. 

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What happened there? 
My plan was just, you know, I 

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normally use the screen to see 
how many we are. 

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And for Tokyo it was very hard 
because, you know, when 

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everybody's in good shape, it's 
not easy to, you know, shake 

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people out. 
So I was like, I will just use 

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the screen and see how many we 
are. 

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But I was so happy that my body 
responds very well. 

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And I was like, let me just make
it faster and faster and see 

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what will happen. 
So I didn't know like I went 60 

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to that lap. 
I just came and replay 

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everything and I was like, oh, 
so that is where I killed 

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everybody because 60 to that lap
is not easy for, you know, most 

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of you know, athletes and that 
is where you need to be very 

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strong and and and keep on going
knowing that they still 300 

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meters to go. 
So I was like surprised to, you 

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know, run 60 and then, you know,
the last 300. 

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But I was, I was feeling good. 
I was in good shape and healthy,

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so I was like, I'm capable of 
doing something special. 

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Jess was right behind you, I 
think with 200 meters to go. 

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But like you said in the final 
three hundreds when that 

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acceleration happened, 44 
seconds final 300 and then you 

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win by just over 2 seconds. 
And so for you, I guess like 

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what what happens there when you
turn on just sort of like, OK, 

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let's finish this like with 300 
meters to go, how do you bring 

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out that acceleration? 
I just tried to, you know, you 

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know, when you are still old 
there, you can just hear the 

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briefing of other athletes. 
And I was like, you know, I 

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still have to go hard and hard 
to know, but I didn't know. 

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I I just left them. 
So like with two meters or 

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something like that. 
I was just like maybe it will be

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a little bit because you know, 
everybody was very strong. 

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But for me, I normally forecast 
the last 300 and the last 200 to

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to be a little bit faster 
because you know, when you run 

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like 60, sometimes you are 
killing yourself and you still 

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have 300 meters to go. 
But for me, I try to be just 

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balance my speed and balance the
mind and knowing that I still 

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have 300 meters to go. 
So I just have to, you know, 

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keep going and keep the speed 
high. 

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So then after you cross the 
finish line, you celebrate, you 

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raise, you know the number 4 
again because it was another 

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world championship title for you
turn around. 

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You start celebrating 
immediately with Dorcas, but you

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thought she got. 
Bronze. 

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Yeah, I, I thought she got 
bronze. 

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I was even I when I was asked by
the Media Zone, I was like, 

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yeah, Dorcas won bronze medal 
and not knowing that she had the

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gold, the silver medal on her 
neck. 

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And when I met her, I was like, 
why you bronze medalist? 

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And she told me no, see what I 
got? 

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And I was like, Oh my goodness, 
you have silver medal. 

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I was, I was surprised by that. 
I was so happy for her because, 

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you know, I didn't know she she 
finished with chess, like very 

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like just kneeling to the finish
line. 

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I was I was so surprised to to 
see her with the silver medal. 

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Nellie was right there, so close
to to a medal. 

445
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,880
Did you say anything to her? 
You know, because you know, 

446
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,720
she's right there, so close. 
And I'm I'm sure it would have 

447
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,680
meant a lot to make complete the
Kenyan sweep. 

448
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,320
Absolutely. 
You know, our prayer was just, 

449
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,360
you know, to to go home with, 
you know, clean sweep this time 

450
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,760
around because I knew the girls 
was very strong. 

451
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,440
The girls trained very well and 
we were in position of like 

452
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,280
winning the three medals. 
But I knew chess was very 

453
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,200
strong. 
And also Nikki, she's she's very

454
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600
strong. 
And I was like, yeah, so if we 

455
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,320
will do top three, it will be 
history for us. 

456
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,960
So I was telling them, let's go 
for this, knowing that we are 

457
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,000
going to do our best. 
And we were so happy to go back 

458
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,800
home with two medals. 
And for Nelly, she was very 

459
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,600
close. 
But I know one day, one time, 

460
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,840
she will do it. 
She was. 

461
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,120
She's still young and she's 
growing in a nice way. 

462
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,880
Then how do you change your 
mindset? 

463
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,360
Then from there, celebration. 
You get the podium, the medal 

464
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,040
ceremony, everything, but you 
still have one more big race and

465
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,040
it's the race where you're like,
it had everybody, it had 

466
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,480
Beatrice, it had Nadia 
Badokledi, it had Gudaf and so 

467
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,160
that. 
One like on paper looked. 

468
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,480
Felt felt harder, right? 
Yeah, that was the hardest one. 

469
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,920
But my first goal was just to 
defend my title in my in my 

470
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,800
distance, which is 1500 meters. 
So I was happy for us to have my

471
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,200
gold medal in the pocket before 
I'm going for 5000, knowing that

472
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,480
there were many strong athletes 
and you know, has also fastest 

473
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,600
times. 
Beatrice 1358 and and also Agnes

474
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:06,920
14 O1 could have 1402-O3 and 
then also the Italian Nadia. 

475
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,440
I was like, Oh my goodness, I'm 
going there without season pass 

476
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,800
this year. 
I have season pass of 14581458 

477
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,480
something. 
I was like, Oh my goodness, how 

478
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,640
am I going to do this? 
But I knew if the race was going

479
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:27,600
slow, I was I was going to do 
top three of course and I was 

480
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,480
very lucky. 
The race was very slow and, you 

481
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,640
know, I was like, let me be the 
first one to just position 

482
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,600
myself to any medal and I was so
happy to just, you know, finish 

483
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,960
the race in a very good way, 
yeah. 

484
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,480
Nobody wanted to take it. 
It became a 400 meter. 

485
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,520
Race, yeah, it was 400 meters. 
Race, we ran 57 or something. 

486
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,040
But I enjoyed everything. 
I was so grateful. 

487
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840
And yeah, that was, yeah, that 
was nice. 

488
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,840
You completed the Tokyo to Tokyo
sweep of the gold medals in the 

489
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,960
1500. 
Did you think that that was 

490
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:01,840
going to be possible or is that 
something that you ever thought 

491
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,840
about, I guess like when it when
it began in in Tokyo in 2021? 

492
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,320
My biggest, yeah, I was really 
capable, to be honest, like I 

493
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:19,160
was capable and praying that to 
go back to Tokyo and just come 

494
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400
back home again with the with 
the gold medal. 

495
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,960
I knew it was not easy, you 
know, to defend title for four 

496
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:31,040
for four times. 
It's always not easy, but I 

497
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:36,160
don't know how I do this. 
But every year is special with 

498
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:42,120
special memories for me because 
going to a championship or going

499
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,360
to Olympics and going back home 
with a medal, it's just great 

500
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,920
achievement and it's incredible.
I think with, with the Olympic 

501
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,440
medals then, then that's seven. 
And I think Usain Bolt, Shelley 

502
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,800
and Fraser Price, Sergey Bupka, 
like there's a, there's a lot of

503
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,360
people you joined who have done 
it 7 times. 

504
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,080
No one's ever done 8. 
And so you have an opportunity 

505
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,480
to make history in Beijing in 
two years. 

506
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,800
Like does has that, have you 
started to think about that? 

507
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,680
Because at the same time, like 
you said before, you also want 

508
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,800
to start exploring longer 
distances too. 

509
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:23,200
Yeah, I feel I'm, I'm so blessed
because, you know, winning world

510
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,280
championship and still dreaming 
of, you know, still do some 

511
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,960
championship or Olympics. 
It's something special. 

512
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,680
But for me, I don't know what's 
on the table next year, but I 

513
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:40,640
just want to finish the season 
here in New York in a beautiful 

514
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,880
way and just see next year what 
will come up. 

515
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:49,720
So I don't know what will come 
up in 2027, but hopefully we 

516
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,120
will see going forward. 
But 2027 is still far, we still 

517
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:59,920
have next year with the Ultimate
Championship but and then after 

518
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:01,360
that we will see what will 
happen. 

519
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,480
The early plan for Ultimate 
Championships, you have your 

520
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,000
spot in the 1500, Yeah. 
And then your world ranking is 

521
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,320
high enough in the in the 5K 
potential double again. 

522
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,120
I don't know what is the program
so far, but hopefully I have, 

523
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,200
you know, I have the wild card 
already, the invitation I'm in 

524
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,680
already in the 1500s. 
So we will see what will what 

525
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,560
will come up next. 
When you said before that you 

526
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,680
know your plan here in New York 
for Athos is to run, you know, a

527
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,120
beautiful race. 
I've heard that before because 

528
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,560
Elliot says that all the time. 
You know, the two of you share 

529
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,760
that in common and you share so 
much time together. 

530
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,480
How do you define a beautiful 
race? 

531
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920
You know, it's all about 
enjoying the race. 

532
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,520
This is the last race of the 
season and you know, it's so 

533
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,400
nice to just finish the reason 
the season in a beautiful way 

534
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,120
whereby you just finish winning 
and and go back home and have 

535
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,680
the rest and enjoy the holiday 
with the family. 

536
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,000
And that is what I'm looking 
for. 

537
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,640
I just, you know, a beautiful 
race. 

538
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,280
It's just to enjoy and and and 
run a beautiful race where 

539
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,040
there's no drama, where there's 
just it's you and and and the 

540
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,600
fans and and the other athletes.
So it's really fun. 

541
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,840
What was it like this time 
coming back home to Kenya and 

542
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,160
bringing home two more medals to
your daughter? 

543
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080
And I saw the photo that you 
posted on on Instagram. 

544
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,320
It's just she's got so many 
medals to play with and at home.

545
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,120
Yeah, she, she was so happy to, 
to, you know, to receive the two

546
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:38,360
medals though she was waiting 
for the 2 gold medals that I 

547
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,800
told her next time it's ATV 
sports. 

548
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,840
And you know, every year comes 
with different colors of medals.

549
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,440
And she was very happy. 
I and also going back home 

550
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,760
welcomed by the state was really
fun. 

551
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,640
So it was. 
It was really fun. 

552
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Yeah, like here's a, here's a 
silver. 

553
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,360
We haven't seen one of these in 
a while. 

554
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,160
You should see one what 1 looks 
like. 

555
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,720
And also she she saw the bronze 
medal already. 

556
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,000
I won bronze medal in Riga with 
the road running in 2023. 

557
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,440
So now she knows all the colors,
you know, she knows the gold and

558
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,280
silver and the bronze. 
So yeah, she understands sports 

559
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,040
now. 
She's she's seven years, so 

560
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,200
she's learning more and more as 
she grows. 

561
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440
So yeah. 
With two parents as runners, 

562
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,520
like no pressure to start 
running or anything like that. 

563
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,000
But does have you noticed she's 
interested or curious a little 

564
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,000
bit? 
A little bit. 

565
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,200
She's she's very, she's a top 
fan of, you know, athletics. 

566
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,280
She knows Elude. 
She knows victories. 

567
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,280
She knows many elite athletes 
now back at home and she have 

568
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480
that motivation like one day, 
one time, I just want to, you 

569
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,520
know, be the world champion in 
the future. 

570
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,680
But she's still young. 
And so she's finding to to see 

571
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,760
what she will do. 
But she have that passion of 

572
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,200
running. 
One thing you brought up was 

573
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,560
just returning home the 
celebration from you know, 

574
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,920
athletics, Kenya and the Kenyan 
stages for for all of the 

575
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,880
medalists that took place before
when they had the send off, you 

576
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,199
know, they were talking about 
Kenya hosting, you know, 

577
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,520
potentially 20292031 World 
Championships. 

578
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:16,159
Do you want to see that happen? 
Absolutely, yes. 

579
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,560
It could be really great to, you
know, if we will get that bit 

580
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:24,639
of, you know, hosting the 2029 
World Championship. 

581
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:27,440
Yeah. 
And it should be really fun to, 

582
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,520
you know, have all those 
continent coming home. 

583
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,840
It would be really fun. 
It adds a word pressure. 

584
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,320
You're like, I guess I had to 
stay in the 1500 until 2029. 

585
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,520
Yeah, that's that's another 
pressure because you know it 

586
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,080
will be home if we get a bit or 
if we get to host the 2029 World

587
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,760
Championship. 
It would force me to go back to 

588
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,120
to the track. 
Just enjoy the atmosphere and 

589
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,239
the fans are back at home, but 
we hope that we will get the 

590
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,600
beat this time bro. 
When you see, you know, Stephane

591
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,440
having her success on in the 
marathon and what Helen O'berry 

592
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,320
has done in the marathon, 
Elliot's coming here to New York

593
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,040
in just a couple weeks to to 
run. 

594
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,840
Like there's so much excitement 
around the marathon. 

595
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,280
And I'm sure you get asked all 
the time. 

596
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,160
It's like, what's your marathon 
personal best? 

597
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,480
You're like, I haven't even run 
1/2. 

598
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,760
So what you know, is it starting
to get louder in your head or 

599
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,280
just like when, when should I 
start to test the the roads a 

600
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,600
little bit more? 
I've I feel, to be honest, I 

601
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,440
feel so motivated to see the 
athletes have competed with them

602
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960
running in marathon and they're 
running very good Look at Stefan

603
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,760
Obiri, she she was running 1500 
also Stefan running 1500. 

604
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:49,720
So I, I normally really, they 
normally really motivate me a 

605
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:53,800
lot. 
Like I have that input. 

606
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,000
Like one day, one time, I will 
also run a marathon in a 

607
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,280
beautiful way like them. 
Because when I see them crossing

608
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:06,120
that finish like in marathon, I 
just get like, I wish I could be

609
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,280
there one day, one time. 
But my time will come. 

610
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,760
I will join them in the marathon
and see what the road will 

611
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,840
offer, like the track. 
When I went to Kenya and I saw 

612
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,240
the long run that you did, I 
think you went 35 K that day and

613
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:24,640
it was on the Boston course. 
And I was like so impressed. 

614
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,320
I was like, OK, I mean, I just 
got a little sneak peek of what 

615
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,080
is going to happen when you hit 
the marathon. 

616
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,520
And I think it's going to be 
very special. 

617
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,080
But. 
Faith, I think we are so blessed

618
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,880
and honored to have your 
greatness on the track right 

619
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,680
now. 
And this was another amazing 

620
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,920
season for you. 
And like you said, you know, 

621
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,800
2027 feels like it's far away, 
maybe here before we know it, 

622
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,680
but 2026 also tons of 
opportunities for more magic on 

623
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,760
the track. 
But congratulations on an 

624
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,840
excellent 2025. 
Thank you so much. 

625
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,280
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