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All right, we are back this week
in track and field. 

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August 5th calendar has already 
shifted to August, this year's 

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flying by. 
And for this episode, we're 

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going to be touching on a 
variety of different news 

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stories, some meets that took 
place, some meets that are 

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coming up over the last week and
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So not necessarily unpacking 
every single result, but some of

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the big stuff obviously that 
took place at the Commonwealth 

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Games last week, including Josh 
Kerr's brilliant Mile 

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performance and then some other 
big metal performances. 

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I guess Preet, we were just 
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recording this. 
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Diamond League took as long as 
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It's like a whole month off, but
there is so much stuff happening

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in between, between with 
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U20 champs, and then eventually 
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cadence. 
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following along. 
I just saw a bunch of tweets of 

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people complaining what was up 
with like the Com games 

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broadcast and like, what's the 
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It was like BBC wasn't really 
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was behind a paywall on TNT. 
Like what? 

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I guess like I was just seeing 
all these complaints or that any

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sort of context. 
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I mean, I think the context kind
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So this was supposed to be 
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And in 2023, Australia pulled 
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put it in kind of the 
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of Victoria, but not in 
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city, but in sort of the 
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And so they were supposed to be 
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all that sort of thing. 
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Victoria just decided this is 
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it was to get out of that 
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people thought Commonwealth 
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Glasgow, which actually hosted 
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they stepped up. 
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it's like 1718 sports and this 
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So we lost a few of the few of 
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to organize across the city. 
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didn't have the sort of 
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But yeah, it was. 
So it was a much smaller scale 

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Commonwealth Games than than 
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Listen then how does that tie 
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So what I suppose what that, 
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obviously they needed money to 
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So they had a little bit of 
money that was kind of the 

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compensation money, but 
basically they needed money. 

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The BBC wasn't willing to put up
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more, I guess and then they got 
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coverage is hard, right? 
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as well, like doing all of that.
I mean, TNT, they do actually do

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the Olympic coverage for most of
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but obviously the investments, 
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high. 
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they were cutting between events
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going on. 
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going on and there was loads of 
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weren't, you know, they were OK,
but they weren't as good as the 

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BBC pundits. 
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great for the athletics. 
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out. 
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bit like the whole thing was 
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just loads of things to kind of 
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commentary and like there were 
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to complain about everything, 
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did sort of align with some good
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to see, you know, the 100m final
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I made time to on my, I think it
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somewhere where I could watch 
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sizing up to be a great race. 
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then obviously like followed 
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results. 
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this, I guess like to put a bow 
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Commonwealth Games, like it 
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weight to it maybe 20 years ago.
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know, the struggles of funding 
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this thing. 
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Commonwealth Games, I guess has,
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be staged, it's going to be 
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state. 
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all 18 sports or whatever, Yeah.
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So India is basically hosting it
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the state where I'm from. 
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in that city. 
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that. 
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to host the Olympics there and 
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Cup final there. 
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stadium, but they've also built 
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on that campus already. 
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want to kind of put their best 
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the Olympics at. 
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Air quality like. 
It's I think this city is not as

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bad and dad is not as bad as 
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Delhi is awful. 
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slightly better time of year to 
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to India, then I'm not sure 
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middle of August because that is
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Olympics, right? 
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they made a big deal about the 
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up. 
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So I, I mean, I don't, I don't 
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what's its place? 
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There's always this, this thing 
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Who wants to host it is an 
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there are two kind of things 
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about Commonwealth Games. 
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problematic things about its 
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putting that to one side as 
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sporting event 1 is that a lot 
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they will ever get to competing 
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Olympics as a multi sport event.
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where there's a flag bearer and 
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Caribbean, Pacific islands that 
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have athletes. 
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and Naru that won a medal right 
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It's cool, right? 
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it's great that like they get to
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England and Northern Ireland 
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So that's quite cool aspect. 
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where we found athletes then go 
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their journey on that 
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become well beaten. 
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stone as well because there 
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on to, there's very little kind 
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level. 
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wilderness, like trying to find 
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stage, particularly where you've
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a strong domestic kind of 
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US. 
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athlete that's getting into 
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bit of a struggle, right? 
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championships can be a good way 
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championship metal. 
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goods, good champions and and 
some interesting competition. 

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So to get into some of the races
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with the most hyped up one of 
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which was the men's mile. 
This one sizing up to be Josh 

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Kerr coming off of the world 
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Ollie Hoare fell in the first 
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Total opposite of what London 
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kind of lined up right behind 
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strong. 
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to be like it looked like it was
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race. 
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physical. 
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race two or three times and try 
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different people as to like, oh,
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or a shove? 
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his time and then ultimately 
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in 354. 
Ken Myers was silver in 355, Tim

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Chariot bronze. 
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The race went through 12103 
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I think it was super slow and 
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And yeah, I mean, he's just way 
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now. 
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take away I had, he was clearly 
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position right before the bell. 
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you know, get his find his way 
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without getting disqualified. 
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I mean, he, he beating Cam Myers
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Like that's, that's a lot in a, 
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So he backs up his form from 
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just kind of shows that 
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that he's had with the lethal 
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So All in all was a really, 
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Josh. 
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worried. 
I mean, I was, I I went up to 

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So I was there in the stadium 
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I was watching the race credit 
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So I couldn't, I didn't 
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of the pushes, but I was, I was 
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going to get himself dequeued, 
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especially if he won the race 
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It was just a bit of carnage if 
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But I think like, I was just 
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do anything, right. 
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Cam Myers, Tim Chariot, they 
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Kerr was trapped and made a move
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trapped or at least kind of 
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Like because yes, they, you 
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was there to run for a medal. 
He was there to run for gold. 

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And in the end it felt like he 
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gold, right. 
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probably got the best kick, 
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you can get a few meters on him 
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hold him off, right. 
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for him not to win. 
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that meant that Jake obviously 
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of time since the 1000 meter 
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what he would have liked. 
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get Josh. 
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him a medal. 
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still, it had the big guns in 
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And Josh proved that he is the 
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And I think he's done it in a 
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in a time trial, he's done both.
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questions on that front right 
now. 

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But obviously we do want to see 
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unfortunately, I'm not sure 
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of that. 
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healthy Nils Laros, a healthy 
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We'd love to see that. 
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the Ultimate Championships, who 
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So Nilsaros out for the season, 
Jakob. 

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Here's the Jakob Ingerbritsen 
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He's coming back. 

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August 10th is his return date 
when he's competing at the 

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European Championships in the 
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He didn't need to run a 
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that 'cause he's the reigning 
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So he had a spot. 
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we'll we'll talk a little bit 
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You said that Josh is the best 
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there's no question about that. 
I agree. 

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What about in a month from now? 
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could be the case? 
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peeking for that mile race and 
using that fitness to win this 

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Commonwealth Games title. 
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to get a little bit interesting.
He's one of those guys that, you

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know, we've heard him talk about
his mindset and all that kind of

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thing. 
He puts a lot into what he 

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really cares about. 
He's all in. 

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He's all in on those two races. 
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mark. 
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of training or so, which we have
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Albuquerque or London or 
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workouts and that will dictate 
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of the season. 
There's a couple options, right?

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So one, a lot of people want him
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1500 meter world record. 
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that would come at the Zurich 
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But that's soon. 
Like he's got what, a month 

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right Till till that race? 
He's got 3 weeks. 

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Yeah, so it's soon, which he 
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with Danny Mackie. 
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same phrase when it came to to 
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The Guardian. 
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very close to the sun. 
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overdo it and get injured and 
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2028, because like he is pushing
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like being the best ever. 
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careful. 
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is, is potentially on the table.
When I asked Danny what the 

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It could have changed after 
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could choose to do the 1500 in 
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there, I mean, if he gets the 
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that's your season ends up being
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that's it. 
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skipping Zurich, taking the 
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into the World Ultimate 
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which could be appealing because
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redemption for 2025. 
Reassert yourself that you are 

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the best, you are the champion, 
you could be the first Ultimate 

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champion and in order to do that
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reigning Olympic champion. 
Who will be there? 

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Cole Hawker and the reigning 
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Who hasn't looked, he hasn't 
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He hasn't looked great this 
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He's just having a regular Isaac
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Cole Hawker on the other hand, 
we knew that he was injured in 

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the lead up to the pre classic 
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Forget exactly what he runs. 
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what he's done in the past and 
doesn't win. 

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But that's typical. 
There's no need to sound the 

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alarm skips Usas. 
From what I understand, he's 

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just hunkered down in Virginia 
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because really, for him, he 
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the Ultimate Championships. 
And again, just like Josh Cole 

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has proven that he is very, very
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So you and and, and also for 
Cole is he's very similar to 

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Josh in the 1500. 
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2025. 
So that could also be on the 

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table for Josh. 
Just go run in Budapest without 

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burning yourself in Zurich. 
I don't think he does both. 

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He's it's one or the I honestly 
think it's one of these options.

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It's at Zurich 1500. 
It's World Ultimate champs 1500 

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or maybe they step back and they
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they're like, you know what? 
This season has already taken a 

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lot out of us. 
I as tempting as it would be to 

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run a 1500, let's go after it 
next year, which I know sounds 

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disappointing to us as fans, but
this is again, like this is this

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is his career. 
You take you you, you accept a 

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big ass payday and go run the 
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Which like is also probably an 
option too. 

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He won it last year or what two 
years ago ran I think the chorus

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record. 
Now the appeal of him being the 

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mile world record holder. 
That's even bonus for New York 

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Rd. runners to draw the world 
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They'll probably throw him a 
nice appearance fee. 

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And he ends up running something
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The field probably won't be as 
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likes of Yard and a Goose who 
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those. 
Those names are probably 

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preparing for ultimate champs at
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So you just get paid, show up, 
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season. 
So I think those are the three 

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options that we could see Josh 
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I don't think he does two of the
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ultimate champs feels like a lot
wait, wait. 

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I mean, what do you want to see?
I. 

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Mean I I think there's there's 
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One way I look at it is like to 
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meter world record is really, 
really hard to get into that 

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shape, right? 
The amount of effort he has gone

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to this season to be in that 
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him take a crack at it because 
to be honest, like next year 

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things could go 90% perfectly. 
But he has a slight niggle. 

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He misses a couple of weeks and 
that puts paid to him being able

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to run 325 next year, right? 
Like if he, if he says I'm going

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to keep it to next year, that's 
I think the risk you take. 

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And that's the problem that you 
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crack at it while he's actually 
got this training, this level of

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prep in his legs. 
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the whole timing thing where I 
think either he would have liked

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maybe an extra week or 
something. 

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And maybe that's Brussels 
because actually he could get 

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that wild card invite to the 
Brussels Diamond League final 

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because he has run 1 Diamond 
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So he can get a wild card invite
to Brussels. 

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But that I, I, I'm not sure. 
I'm not sure. 

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To be fair, either Zurich or 
Brussels will quite be quick 

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enough as races like with the 
tracks. 

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I think Celestia, we know that's
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it's too soon. 
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Jakob set his 3K world record. 
We know it's a super quick track

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for middle distance from 
running. 

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And so if I'd wanted to see him 
do it and that that actually 

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that meet doesn't actually have 
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so they need to put one on 
especially for him. 

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But that would be the place 
where I would say like in an 

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ideal world, I would I would 
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it. 
Obviously, I don't think that's 

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going to happen. 
And yeah, so as I say, like with

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the fitness, that's what I'd 
want to see him take a crack at 

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it. 
The reality is I think the 

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timing just doesn't line up. 
I don't think he's going to do 

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it. 
And that means I think I just 

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want to see him at World 
Ultimates. 

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I think I think that he would do
because I think he can. 

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An 85% Josh Kerr of this year's 
Josh Kerr still wins that race, 

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right? 
I know. 

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I think there's a decent, you 
know, there's a decent chance 

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that he he wins that race. 
Wait, which race? 

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A world ultimates, right? 
I think, I think that you know, 

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and if he's 85% or 90% of the 
Joshua that he was over the last

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couple of weeks, then I think 
he's he's got a really good 

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chance of winning that race. 
And I don't know I. 

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I don't know if I believe that 
because what you might be up 

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against 100% called Hawker. 
Yeah, I suppose that's that's 

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the only wild card that's in 
there. 

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But he's beaten Garrett. 
He's beaten Cam Myers, he's 

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beaten Tim Chariot. 
He hasn't beaten Cole yet. 

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Yeah, Cole, Cole, Cole is the 
one best, Yeah, but as I say, 

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Cole's had an interrupted 
season. 

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So is Cole going to be at 100%? 
We'll find out at these next 3 

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Diamond leagues he's slated to 
run in Celestia, Zurich and 

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Brussels. 
If you know, assuming he gets 

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into Brussels and it just. 
The beauty of Josh competing at 

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the Ultimate Champs is that you 
have this convergence of 

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potentially 2 incredible 1500 
guys meeting at a very 

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interesting point in their 
respective seasons where Cole is

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peaking for September, Josh just
peaked in July and is coming 

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down. 
But there's still enough time 

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to, you know, kind of bring it 
back up and they hopefully and 

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they meet in September. 
So I'm with you is that I think 

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I hope he runs the Ultimate 
Champs because other otherwise, 

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I don't necessarily know if 
we'll see Cole versus Josh until

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next year. 
And I kind of want to see it at 

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least one time this year. 
Yeah, the last, the last time 

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they faced themselves each other
was last year, last summer 

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probably. 
Oh no, Melrose, No. 

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Worries. 
Yeah. 

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So, yeah, that's those are the 
options right now on the table. 

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I want to hear from the 
commenters in the on the Spotify

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comments section. 
Let us know if you are Josh or 

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what do you want to see out of 
Josh Kerr? 

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Is it a run Zurich and take a 
crack at the 1500 meter world 

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record. 
Is it B run the ultimate champs 

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or C Enjoy a hefty payday at the
5th Ave. mile? 

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I think those are the three 
options right now. 

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It's because you could be the 
only. 

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One who votes for Seacrest 
because then you get to see him 

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in person. 
Well, I guess even you, I'm 

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going to Budapest, so I guess I 
I want to see him there. 

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Maybe. 
Yeah. 

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I don't think he does two of two
of these three options as much 

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as we want. 
You know how meticulous coach 

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Danny Mackey and Josh are when 
it comes to to racing. 

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And then even Danny kind of 
teased the idea that like when I

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asked sort of like if you got to
assemble a 1500 meter world 

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record attempt, like, what would
it look like? 

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And he basically said like, 
let's do it again next year in 

448
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,240
London, but make it a 1500. 
Although what isn't it the 

449
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,360
Emsley Carr Mile? 
Like, isn't that what? 

450
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,000
What? 
Yeah. 

451
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,160
But they don't always have a 
mile. 

452
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,240
So I think it's far like yes, 
that is the tradition. 

453
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,120
But obviously if Joshua wants to
run the 1500, do a 1500 meter 

454
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world record attempt, they will.
They will allow for that I'm 

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I wanted to highlight Georgia 
Hunter Bell winning that 800 in 

488
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,320
one 5951. 
Not a crazy fast time, but she 

489
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,200
did take it from the gun, was 
never really challenged. 

490
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,280
World champion Lily Nodira was 
more than a second back in 

491
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,640
second place. 
Sarah Billings from Australia 

492
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,160
took bronze. 
We'll talk a little bit about 

493
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400
Australia in a second. 
But now, I guess at 32 years 

494
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:06,480
old, Georgia Hunter Bell owns an
Olympic medal, world 

495
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,760
championship medal, European 
medal, Commonwealth Games medal.

496
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,360
So full set from an athlete that
like has only acquired all these

497
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,680
things in the last three years, 
right? 

498
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,840
Because the last Commonwealth 
Games, Georgia was only just 

499
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,200
coming back into to the sport. 
So it's, it was really cool to 

500
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:35,120
to see her win this. 
And again, I guess like she's 

501
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,240
dabbling between 2 events. 
She's a Unicorn in the sense of 

502
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,360
like how good she is in both the
800 and the 1500. 

503
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,400
It's been a while, I guess, 
since I used that phrase, but we

504
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,800
we were describing athletes last
year as unicorns and she's one 

505
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,960
of them easily is a mental 
threat on the global stage in 

506
00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:00,280
the 800 or the 1500. 
I did see that she posted on her

507
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,160
Instagram story today. 
That was like back to 1500 meter

508
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,960
work and I was just like a a 
short workout clip. 

509
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,560
But I was like, wait, in my 
head. 

510
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,280
I'm thinking it's like you got 
some pretty hard 8 hundreds also

511
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240
on the schedule coming up 
because I guess they just 

512
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:21,320
announced Zurich is where Audrey
Wearo has been confirmed as the 

513
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,040
headliner and that's where she's
up against Georgia, Hunter Bell,

514
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,360
Femkabol and Lily Nodira. 
So when we think about world 

515
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,280
record attempts, that could be 
one if of course, like Lazan 

516
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,120
doesn't go according to plan for
for Audrey Wearo. 

517
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,640
But even before that, the next 
big 800 is going to be the 

518
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,760
European Championships next 
week, where it's Keely versus 

519
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,680
Audrey Buero. 
The rematch Femco will be in it 

520
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,080
as well so far, like. 
And Georgia Hunter Bell's doing 

521
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,760
the 1500, correct. 
Yeah, that's right. 

522
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:03,760
Yeah. 
So the 800 on the women's side, 

523
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,120
which was a crazy hot event 
about a month ago and took its 

524
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,080
little break, now we'll be 
heating up again very soon. 

525
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,400
So yeah, I mean, lots to be 
excited about with the women's 

526
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,600
800 coming up. 
Yeah, agreed. 

527
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,000
And I think like Lillian Adera, 
it's just worth pointing out. 

528
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,920
So in that race at Commonwealth 
Games, she basically misjudged 

529
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:32,920
it badly because she had to try 
and catch George Antebelle or 

530
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,360
start moving on that top end. 
And that's where there was a 

531
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,680
massive headwind. 
So basically she was trying to 

532
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800
accelerate and nothing was 
happening or relatively 

533
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,720
speaking, nothing was happening.
And so she misjudged that. 

534
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,400
So she wasn't able to get that 
close to Georgia, who then made 

535
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,760
a move and was able to go away 
because she was already around 

536
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,560
the next bend and into the home 
straight and it was just too 

537
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,280
late. 
So I think that was just a 

538
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,320
slight tactical misjudgement. 
I don't understand why she 

539
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,320
wasn't further up in the field, 
but given how slow the race was,

540
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,280
but she made that tactical error
because she has been so 

541
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,280
successful coming from down the 
pack in these races. 

542
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,240
But I don't think she's had to 
deal with those kind of 

543
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,040
conditions. 
So that was probably it. 

544
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,080
And and obviously in in Europe, 
I think we'll we will expect 

545
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,800
friendlier conditions on the 
rest of the the Diamond League 

546
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:21,800
circuit for the rest of the 
year. 

547
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,800
So I don't think she'll have 
that to contend with. 

548
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,520
So, but yeah, well done to 
Georgia Hunter Bell. 

549
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,960
I think for, you know, making it
look so easy to to win that 

550
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:37,160
race. 
OK, so week out from the women's

551
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,440
800 meter final at the European 
Championships for folks who are 

552
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,480
wondering like when, when are 
all these races? 

553
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,920
August 14th, That'll be the day 
for for that one. 

554
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,120
We can wait until it gets 
closer, but right now do you 

555
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,040
lean towards Werro or Hodgkinson
to win that one? 

556
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,640
Audrey Werro just ran a 400 
meter PB right at the Swiss 

557
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Championships. 
Exactly, I think she's she's 

558
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,480
stayed in shape. 
I you know, we just don't have 

559
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,360
any data on Keely, right. 
We don't have any data to say. 

560
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,600
And and that's the thing like, 
because we've had this little 

561
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,400
absence of data, like we've had 
a bit more data from Audrey 

562
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,760
Werro, who I think she ran the 
400 meter PB of 50.8 or 

563
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,600
something at the Swiss champs 
and double back to win the 800 

564
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,440
and for what for her was jogging
in I think 157 or something. 

565
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,240
So she kind of is still really 
in shape. 

566
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,760
And we just don't really have 
much data on on Keely. 

567
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,560
So you've got to you've got to 
give the edge to wear. 

568
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:50,600
Oh, just purely on data. 
I I think though, just out of 

569
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:56,360
personal and this is more vibes 
than anything else that I think,

570
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,400
you know, we we've seen time and
again that the team behind sort 

571
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,240
of Katie Hodgkinson, George 
Hunter Bell, Trevor Painter, 

572
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Jenny Meadows, they know what 
they're doing. 

573
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:13,120
And given what happened over the
last kind of month and a half, 

574
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,760
if they've if everything has 
gone well and in these last few 

575
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,960
weeks, I think she will not make
the same mistakes again. 

576
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:31,000
She knows what Audrey can do and
I think she will be prepared. 

577
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:37,000
So I think there is AII would 
quite like to say I'm still I I 

578
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,159
want to put my money on Keely, 
even though, you know, on data 

579
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:44,639
you would you'd say Audrey. 
Yeah, I mean, I don't really 

580
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,880
know how many mistakes were 
there to correct. 

581
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,800
She still ran a PB. 
She just got beat. 

582
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,600
Yeah, I think it is more 
obviously the the knock to like 

583
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,640
the fall and then the kind of 
just a the mental kind of 

584
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,240
confidence knocks of losing, 
losing a pre as well and and 

585
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,760
having that that knock and then,
you know, having that fall and 

586
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,880
just not looking like you're in 
the right, you know. 

587
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,760
And then even in London just 
kind of having to tough it out 

588
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,200
for the win rather than kind of 
have an easy win. 

589
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:21,200
I think it was just, you know, 
we just don't know if she, you 

590
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,800
know, I think what, what, what 
they want to do is get her back 

591
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,800
to 154 low 153 shape, which is 
probably where she was trending 

592
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,240
before, you know, you know, 
before that kind of fall and 

593
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,440
stuff. 
So I think if they can get back 

594
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,480
on track then then I think it's 
game on. 

595
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,320
And that's what, what we all 
want to see. 

596
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,360
And I mean, fem Kabal, like 
throw fem Kabal in there. 

597
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,160
I, I think they will be like, 
she will be peeking for 

598
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,440
Europeans and she has surprised 
herself with how fast she's run 

599
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,280
so far. 
And she's basically improving 

600
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,880
every time essentially. 
So I I I do wonder whether she 

601
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,840
could throw a surprise. 
We're not taking world record 

602
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,200
attempt at Europeans because you
got. 

603
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,960
Round, No, no, no. 
Yeah, I don't think it's a it's 

604
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,840
not so much because of the 
rounds, but I think I just don't

605
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:23,240
think it's, I mean, it depends. 
Because if Audrey decides to 

606
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,360
become the pacer, there's a 
chance, right? 

607
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,400
Because the reality is like 
probably the best shot at a 

608
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,520
world record attempt is a race 
where one of Audrey, Audrey 

609
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,720
Wehrl, Katie Hodgkinson is the 
pacer and then the other one can

610
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,280
sit on them and then go the last
hundred 200 meters. 

611
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,960
And obviously you're never going
to get that in a Diamond League 

612
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,040
because you know that that's 
just not going to happen. 

613
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,000
There is a chance that Audrey 
Weiro I, I don't think Keely 

614
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,560
will do it, but I think there's 
a chance that Audrey Weiro does 

615
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,440
it. 
She just goes out at world 

616
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,720
record what is essentially world
record pace. 

617
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,040
So there is a chance. 
I it would be ridiculous and I'm

618
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,360
not sure that that track is 
right for it because again, I 

619
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,760
think there's a bit of wind and 
stuff. 

620
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
So I don't think there's a real 
chance. 

621
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:15,360
But George Hunter Bell jogged a 
front round 155 on that track, 

622
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,600
so who knows? 
Yeah. 

623
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,280
My only thought is just sort of 
how rounds are going to affect 

624
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:28,560
the race and if it's slow, 
slower and the final ends up 

625
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,320
being 156 or whatever it is, and
you just have a whole group of 

626
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,240
people who can win that race and
that's going to make it 

627
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,360
exciting. 
Yeah, no, I, I, I I am really 

628
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,800
looking forward to that. 
I think it it it is obviously 

629
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,280
the highlight. 
Themka could win. 

630
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Yeah, I, I would, I'm here for 
that. 

631
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,680
I'm here for that. 
I, I, I really am. 

632
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,320
Because that would, that would 
be, that would be even more fun 

633
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,160
to the storyline, right. 
And if we can then get everyone 

634
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,080
together at World Ultimates, 
that would be, that'd be really 

635
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,640
fun. 
Like I would like to see Georgia

636
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:08,360
Hunter Bell in a race with Katie
Hodgkinson and Audrey Wearow and

637
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:13,160
Femka Ball all all together and 
Lilu Nadira and, and that that's

638
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,520
kind of the race we all want to 
see, I think. 

639
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,480
So I'm, I'm hoping we're 
building up to that at World 

640
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,040
Ultimates. 
Yep. 

641
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,720
All right, so that's the the 
women's 800. 

642
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,680
Just really big picture wise. 
Wanna shout out how well 

643
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:28,440
Australia did at these 
Commonwealth Games because in 

644
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,680
the past, I guess like at at 
Commonwealth Games, and you can 

645
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:37,320
correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause 
we had Olly Whore win in 2022. 

646
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:46,320
But before that, so many of the 
jumpers, throwers, road racers 

647
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,040
were the ones bringing home 
medals for Australia. 

648
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,720
Sally Pearson in the hurdles, 
you know, years ago. 

649
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,560
But this time around this 
generation of their track 

650
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,840
athletes really showed out at 
these championships. 

651
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,120
So you had Tori Lewis and 
Lachlan Kennedy delivering in 

652
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,640
the sprints. 
Kennedy ran 985, Tori Lewis 

653
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:17,400
broke 11 in the mile, you had 
Abby Caldwell, Jess Hull, 

654
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,520
Claudia Hollingsworth go 123 and
you had Cam Myers silver behind 

655
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,640
Josh Kerr, Rose Davies 5K10K 
gold medal, double Kai Robinson 

656
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,480
with medals in both events as 
well. 

657
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:38,720
So All in all, I mean this was a
really solid championships for 

658
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Australia. 
And then on the flip side of it,

659
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,680
I, I was ready to crap on Kenya 
a bit more, but they didn't have

660
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:53,440
a terrible Commonwealth Games. 
It's just sort of, you'd think 

661
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,440
that they would be a bit more 
dominant in the distance events.

662
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,760
They had the silver medal in the
10K Diana Wanza. 

663
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,200
I'd hadn't really hadn't really 
heard of no medals in the 

664
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,400
women's 5K in the mile, like I 
said. 

665
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:16,240
Their best finisher was Naomi 
Career, who finished fifth in 

666
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:20,680
the 800. 
Odira did get silver, so wasn't 

667
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,720
a bad com games there. 
And then on the men's side, 

668
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,840
maybe it's a little bit better. 
Let's see. 

669
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:36,720
Well, the steeple, the the men 
swept, so that's good. 

670
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,520
But then I'm scrolling, 
scrolling, scrolling through 

671
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,720
these results. 
So many of. 

672
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:44,400
Yeah, I mean, obviously you got 
Timmy C Timmy. 

673
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,160
C got a medal. 
And bronze medals in the 8 and 

674
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,080
the 15 and. 
Oh, Matthew Kipsang won the 5K. 

675
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,360
So was it bad? 
It's just sort of like you'd 

676
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,280
expect more. 
I mean, it was below what 

677
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,920
they've got in the. 
Past at. 

678
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,480
The same time they didn't have a
Wan Yoni or a Chibet or a, you 

679
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,680
know, like they didn't and or 
Kippier got like they didn't 

680
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,000
have a lot of their top stars. 
And we also know that in the 

681
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,320
distances, a lot of Kenya's top 
runners have moved to the roads,

682
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,560
like they're skipping the kind 
of 5K10K, like particularly on 

683
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,800
the women's side. 
I think on the men's side, 

684
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,120
obviously, they did actually 
have a really good contingent in

685
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,320
the 10K. 
So I think that win from Kai 

686
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,560
Robinson was wildly impressive. 
But at the same time, the 

687
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,360
weather was absolutely pouring. 
But he controlled it from the 

688
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,280
front. 
And that was that was such an 

689
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,560
impressive race to me. 
Just the weather that day was 

690
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,160
insane. 
And I, yeah, I have to give him 

691
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,840
a lot of credit for that, for 
that victory. 

692
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:52,120
Big breakout for Kai with the 
win, but also Gulveer Singh also

693
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,200
getting on the podium in both of
those events. 

694
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,720
So I'm sure India was going 
crazy for him. 

695
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:04,160
So yeah, it was, it was, it was 
cool to see Australia have a 

696
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,760
good, good champs here. 
Let's see, what else did I have 

697
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,920
for him? 
I mean. 

698
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,880
I wanted to give a shout out to 
Elise Tauner, who broke up the. 

699
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Two. 
Oh yeah. 

700
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,520
Top steep players in Faith 
Charitage obviously won gold 

701
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,160
pair of Chemitai got the bronze 
in the end. 

702
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,040
But I think what's interesting, 
she ran a personal best nine O 5

703
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,040
in this race in those conditions
again, like it was windy. 

704
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,600
It was not not great weather and
she just judged her race 

705
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,920
perfectly because those two went
herring off at the start and 

706
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Chemitai obviously misjudged it.
And it's it's it's fascinating 

707
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,960
because she has run she ran 907 
in that LA race a few weeks ago 

708
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,960
where she beat a lot of the US 
is best steeplers. 

709
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,760
And in the NCAA she was also 
around like she as in she was 

710
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,640
OK, she was decent. 
She ran 928 and in the NCAA that

711
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,360
was good, but she wasn't winning
NCAA titles. 

712
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,240
And now coming out of the NCAA 
just like, you know, two years 

713
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:10,440
down the line, she is like the 
kind of probably now at the 

714
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,720
moment, she's probably the 5th 
best steeper in the world right 

715
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:19,600
now at the moment behind the the
top three Chematai, Cheratich, 

716
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:25,840
Yavi and and Buziani of Tunisia.
She's she's probably #5 and 

717
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,600
that's kind of an impressive 
trajectory that she's on right 

718
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,720
now. 
And and she hasn't been in the 

719
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,200
right race to like have a pacer 
like literally all of these. 

720
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,600
She's kind of kept her own pace 
at the front of the second pack 

721
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,240
and then taken off in the 
second-half of the race and 

722
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,480
closed really well. 
And you don't get pacing like in

723
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,560
a Diamond League steeple. 
They're always going off at 840 

724
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,960
pace or 85850 pace. 
Like you don't get pacing for 9 

725
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,120
flat or 905 to actually, which 
would work for her to then be 

726
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,680
able to close. 
So I think in the right race, 

727
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,640
she's got a sub nine in her as 
well, which would be amazing. 

728
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,280
But but yeah, I think big shout 
out to her for for this kind of 

729
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,440
continued development. 
You put her at 5:00. 

730
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,200
You forgot Doris Lemmingle. 
Sorry, Doris Lemmingle. 

731
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:13,960
Yeah. 
Put her at six. 

732
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,800
Yeah, sorry. 
Yes, that. 

733
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,040
Is I was like, wait, did you 
read 857 at Fried not that long 

734
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,400
ago? 
Yes, yeah. 

735
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,160
Sorry. 
Yes, yeah, number six, number 

736
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,320
six. 
At least Sterner's running 

737
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,600
European champs, right? 
Yes, so there she is, probably 

738
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,840
alongside Gazer Krauser. 
Like the gold medal is probably 

739
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,480
between the two of them because 
Alice Fino is the French athlete

740
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,400
who ran really well at the 
Olympics and came forth, but she

741
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,480
has not been quite in that same 
form. 

742
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:47,200
So yeah, I think it's probably. 
But yeah, she's got a decent 

743
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,160
shot of gold. 
She's going to try and run the 

744
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,360
British record, I think. 
British Records. 

745
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:55,400
Lizzzy Bird. 
Yes, yeah, 904 so and she 

746
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,600
obviously ran nine O 5 in 
Glasgow. 

747
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,720
So I think there's a decent 
chance of that that going at the

748
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,880
very least. 
All right, so now moving away 

749
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,240
from com games, I do want to 
expand upon Jakob being a 

750
00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:14,320
Britain's return. 
So then he he teased his return 

751
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,240
by saying putting up some video 
and saying I heard Birmingham's 

752
00:45:17,240 --> 00:45:22,440
nice this time of year and then 
his spokesperson confirmed that 

753
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,640
he will be running. 
Then the Norwegian Athletics 

754
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,280
Federation entered him in the 5K
only. 

755
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,480
So no 1500. 
For Jacob. 

756
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,280
This is going to be his first 
race since the 2025 World 

757
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,720
Championships in Tokyo, where he
was bounced in the heats of the 

758
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:44,720
1500 but then went on to finish 
10th in the 5K and that was all 

759
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,560
with a pretty bum Achilles. 
So he undergoes surgery in early

760
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,360
February. 
We are holding our breath for 

761
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,840
his return in some at some point
in July. 

762
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:03,560
July came and went and no racing
from Jacob, but now he's going 

763
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:10,240
all in into the 5K and the field
that he's walking into here is 

764
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:15,360
not necessarily easy. 
He's the fastest European so far

765
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,800
this year is Andreas Omgren from
Sweden, who's run 1248. 

766
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,920
Armgren is not running the 5K 
so. 

767
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,760
He's not. 
No, he's only running the 10, so

768
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,560
the field is. 
So let me kind of I've got. 

769
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,160
The Is it Dominic Lobalis? 
Yes, and Dominic Lobalis run 

770
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,520
1252 he obviously ran won that 
Diamond League. 

771
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,120
He's he's looking good this 
Florian Brem of of Germany 1256 

772
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,880
and Jimmy Gracias run 1257. 
Mohammed Abdullahi who is the 

773
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,400
fastest 10K runner in the world 
this year and also won won a 

774
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,920
couple of diamond leagues early 
in the season. 

775
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120
He has pulled out with an 
injury, so. 

776
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,560
And then there's Isaac Kameli, 
the world silver medalist from 

777
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,760
Tokyo. 
He's been cold this season. 

778
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,280
He's been very yeah, not not 
been great this season. 

779
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,320
So to be honest, it's only those
3 athletes, the Barley, Bram and

780
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:12,040
Gressier who are like feel like 
there are serious threats and 

781
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,640
you know, then then you've 
literally, you know, Jakob I 

782
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,040
think has got a pretty. 
So I think Jakob's got a very 

783
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,080
good chance at a medal. 
And if he's anywhere, you know, 

784
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,080
if he's 80% of Jakob, I think he
wins this race. 

785
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:32,120
I think if he's 80% of the Jakob
we know and love from 2024 or 

786
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:38,520
early 2025, he wins this race. 
And I don't, I don't see, I, I 

787
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,120
think it, you know, look, 
because yeah, there's, there's 

788
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,000
just Almgren's not in this 
Abdullah, he's not in this. 

789
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,960
Andy Kamenaya is injured as 
well. 

790
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,800
He's not in this. 
So there's, there's a quite a 

791
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,480
few of the top Europeans, George
Mills, he's not in this like a 

792
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,480
lot of the top Europeans are 
injured or out. 

793
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,120
And and so the competition 
perhaps isn't as deep as as we'd

794
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,360
have liked to see, but I think 
that gives him a good shot of 

795
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:06,720
the win. 
Yeah, I did see that Jonathan 

796
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:12,680
Galt shared that there was this 
workout that Yaka Bran and so he

797
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:17,360
did 6 by 1 K and 229 getting 
down to 225, two minutes rest, 

798
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:22,400
then 5 by 342 seconds. 
So share that with Kyle and 

799
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,720
Mack, who are better at 
interpreting workouts than both 

800
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:29,680
you and I. 
And basically I think the way 

801
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:34,040
Kyle interpreted, he said it's 
solid but probably beatable, 

802
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,320
maybe shows that he's in 1252 
shape. 

803
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,800
And at that point I thought that
Almgren was in the race. 

804
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,320
He's like, well, Almgren could 
probably out kick him. 

805
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,760
And Mack agreed overall that 
it's a really good sign. 

806
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,080
And if it's an even split race, 
then Jacob's got a chance. 

807
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,240
But it's he added that it's 
going to be a little while for 

808
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:03,000
him to get his full kick back. 
So even if you put him at 1252 

809
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,960
shape, then he's in contention 
to win this race. 

810
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,040
So at least like I think that 
that'll be fun to see Jacob at 

811
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,080
least mixing it up because he's 
been injured essentially for 18 

812
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:17,440
months or so, raced once and it 
wasn't that great. 

813
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:24,080
Zero races going into your 
return is a ballsy way to open 

814
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,920
up your championship season now 
two years in a row and the 

815
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,160
Achilles is something that like 
probably takes a while to get 

816
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,120
back from, but it's a good sign.
I mean he's the one who 

817
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,120
ultimately is the judge of 
knowing when he's race ready in 

818
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,680
2024 before Eugene, he made the 
call that he would be ready for 

819
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,680
to race at the pre classic and 
he battled with with Josh the 

820
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,440
line. 
So he must have seen something 

821
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,920
in training to signal that. 
Hey, I'm good to give this a 

822
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,600
shot. 
So he's, you know, I, I live for

823
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,560
the, the Jacob real videos that 
he posts that give us just a 

824
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,080
tiny glimpse of, of him back in 
action. 

825
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,640
Yeah, and worth remembering he 
has the wild card for the World 

826
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,240
Ultimate Championships. 
He's the Olympic champion. 

827
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:18,560
So there is every chance that if
if this goes well, then we see 

828
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,280
him in Budapest. 
Cole Hawker versus Yaakov in 

829
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,520
Budapest. 
Yeah, well, it'll be interesting

830
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,560
because the double, I mean, 
obviously it's only one race for

831
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,960
each, There's no rounds. 
But I I don't know if Cole will 

832
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,720
double. 
He the The plan is to double. 

833
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,120
OK. 
Is the plan for Georgia Hunter 

834
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,760
Bell to double there? 
I think there's rounds in the 8 

835
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,200
so I don't think so, but who 
knows. 

836
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:55,200
Right now, taking a look at the 
word of Road to the Ultimate in 

837
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,920
the 5K, we've got Jakob as the 
Olympic champion, Cole Hawker as

838
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:07,920
the world champion, and then 
it's Adisio Yehune, Burhanu, 

839
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,680
Beleu, Grant Fisher, Kai 
Robinson, Grand Blanc's Jimmy 

840
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,720
Gracie, Jacob Krapp, Binyam 
Mahari, Cornelius Kemboy and 

841
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,360
Nico Young. 
And Nico's the last guy in right

842
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:26,520
now, although he scratched from 
Peachtree, didn't run Usas, I 

843
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,560
haven't seen any sort of 
announcement of him being part 

844
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,800
of any of these upcoming Diamond
leagues. 

845
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:39,920
So if he's hurt, then his spot 
comes out and then Matthew keeps

846
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:47,040
saying from Kenya would move up.
So yeah, Kamelli's out of the 

847
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,080
picture right now. 
Heptam Samuels just outside. 

848
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,920
If we were thinking of another 
American entering the fold, it's

849
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,640
ABI Hamid Nur, who's I think 
19th right now. 

850
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,280
And he just ended up getting 
some good points after running. 

851
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,080
What was it? 
What did you run 1250? 

852
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:17,040
757 so and so this this yeah he 
ran 1257 in in Belgium at the 

853
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:24,640
weekends and that will you know 
that gets him 1200 and something

854
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,680
points so. 
So he has 12, he gets 12119 for 

855
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,760
the performance and then I 
haven't, you know, I haven't 

856
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:35,240
calculated the bonus points for 
finishing second. 

857
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:42,840
It was and whatever label that 
was, but it will, it'll be his, 

858
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,640
it'll be his highest ranked 
performance and get his average 

859
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,080
up a bit. 
So there's a chance I'll be 

860
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,120
having nerve, yeah. 
Yeah, I think it pushes him up 

861
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,160
to like somewhere around 13th or
14th. 

862
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,640
So he'll he'll be just at 14th, 
15th. 

863
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,480
So he'll be just outside after 
that. 

864
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:02,680
But obviously there are some 
more diamond. 

865
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,520
And I suppose the other thing I 
think, and this is where I think

866
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,160
people may be asking like why if
he was that fit, why didn't he 

867
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,400
run USA, right? 
Like if he's fit enough to run 

868
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:17,600
1257, but actually this that 
that 1257 gets him in with a 

869
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,440
shot of make it to world 
ultimates. 

870
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,240
It also means that he could get 
invited to a Diamond League 

871
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,720
because up until now he hasn't 
shown any form that would get 

872
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:30,800
him invited to a Diamond League.
So that that's the other side of

873
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,840
the coin there that you know, to
actually get into world 

874
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,280
ultimates, you need to get into 
a Diamond League. 

875
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,560
To get to Diamond League, you 
need to run this, run this sort 

876
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,600
of race and this. 
This is the place to go to run 

877
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,840
fast. 
Yeah, because for comparison's 

878
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:49,880
sake, like if he did run US as 
and it was as slow as it was, 

879
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:52,080
you're not getting that many 
points. 

880
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,280
I'm, I just pulled it up. 
Vinciotti is also somewhere 

881
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:04,280
further down in the Road to the 
Ultimates map, and he got only 

882
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,680
1094 points. 
That's with the 50 bonus points 

883
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,200
for his victory at the US 
Championships, like he ended up 

884
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:20,720
getting 1200 and seven points 
from running his his 7393K at 

885
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:28,320
BU, 11162 points from his 1313 
where he was fourth at Peyton 

886
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:34,600
Jordan earlier this year. 
So listen, if you look at the 

887
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,200
results of that race in 
Ordingham that Abdi Hamid Nur 

888
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,520
ran, it's like there were other 
guys who ran at USA, is there? 

889
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,640
They didn't do well. 
No, they did not They. 

890
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,720
Didn't do well at all. 
If you're Abdi like you like it,

891
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,840
it was a smart move to conserve 
your best effort for that one 

892
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,640
race. 
Like he's still coming off of 

893
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,920
and working his way back from 
from injury. 

894
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:04,160
There's no need to go and win. 
USA is in a non championship 

895
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:08,480
year. 
So yeah, I mean, like, I don't 

896
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:13,840
fault Mike Smith for being 
careful and tactical with his 

897
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:19,320
athletes here. 
So that's it makes sense to me. 

898
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,680
And yeah, I mean, so Abhi Hamad 
Nur was one of the big 

899
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,680
performers there out in that in 
Otagum. 

900
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:32,680
So Otagum to me always brings 
back memories of 2013. 

901
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:38,560
I'm looking this up right now. 
This was one where there's this 

902
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:44,160
one race cause a lot of people 
hear about these European races 

903
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,520
from time to time and they're 
like, I've never heard of that 

904
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:51,680
random random city. 
But yeah, no, this is it. 

905
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:56,640
In 2013 there was a 1500. 
And this is back when 332 was 

906
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:02,120
fast. 332 popped up as a result,
and a lot of Americans ran their

907
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,840
lifetime PBS in this race. 
Jordan McNamara, a name maybe 

908
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:11,560
you don't remember, was fourth. 
Garrett Heath in that 134334. 

909
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,440
Andy Bayer, Corey Leslie, Will 
Lear, Chris O'Leary, Chris 

910
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,880
O'Hare. 
That was one where I think like 

911
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,320
everyone in Europe just heard of
the results on that day being 

912
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,760
like what? 
Like all these people just 

913
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:32,480
randomly ran their PBS at this 
small meet in Belgium. 

914
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,240
And so that's whenever I hear 
about Oregon, that's that's 

915
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,200
that's what comes to mind. 
And it's still yielding some 

916
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:44,840
some fast times. 
Marco Langan 334 for the win and

917
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:50,360
Alicia Monson is back 1450. 
So that's a really good step for

918
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,360
her fastest time since I think 
2023 for her. 

919
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,400
So that's a pretty good, good 
showing and show she, she's on 

920
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,360
her way back and I think you 
know that that's someone that 

921
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,280
we, we definitely want to see 
back. 

922
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,960
It's been a long, long journey 
for her. 

923
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,360
So that one was really, really 
heartwarming to see. 

924
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,600
Yeah, it's it's been a solid 
season. 

925
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,440
And again, like these are you 
got to think that the coaches 

926
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,640
are playing it, you know, smart 
with these athletes coming off 

927
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:23,360
of injuries from last year or 
even the last two years. 

928
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,520
Like Monson has run ran fifteen 
O 3 in LA back in June and then 

929
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,520
just popped off this 1450 in 
Belgium. 

930
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,080
And that is her. 
It's up there. 

931
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,160
I think like it's in her top ten
fastest times, but obviously 

932
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:47,720
like nowhere near her 1419 
American record from 2023. 

933
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,800
So, yeah, I mean, she's coming 
back into form and it's an 

934
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,520
injury that for some people is 
really, really hard to, to come 

935
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,560
back from. 
And I think Aisha Prot Lear has 

936
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,040
talked about this on on her 
podcast 'cause she had the same 

937
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,440
exact surgery that Alicia Monson
did. 

938
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:09,880
And it's, it was not easy Rd. 
back. 

939
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:15,920
So yeah, we'll, we'll keep tabs 
on on Alicia Monson's progress 

940
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,160
again, like a race like this 
maybe gets you into another 

941
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:26,640
upcoming Diamond League 5K is is
the 5K is in Celestia, right? 

942
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,160
Celestia yes, yeah, Because I 
think Park of Alby said after 

943
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,760
USA, she was hoping to run there
and I think again, she's run 

944
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,080
1439. 
So hopefully that that gives her

945
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,160
a decent shot at getting in. 
I think because I think on the 

946
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:44,520
women's side, no one's really 
taken the 5K by by storm this 

947
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,920
year. 
Like the Weke of Ethiopia has 

948
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,760
probably been the most 
consistent. 

949
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,320
But again, it's not really been 
anything, you know, Faith KPI 

950
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,920
guns from one and won the 
Diamond League, but she's only 

951
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,080
won the 1. 
So, you know, there hasn't 

952
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,080
really been anyone, you know, 
taking it on in the absence of 

953
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,240
Segi Chibet, etcetera. 
Yeah. 

954
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:15,000
I wonder who's doing the road to
the ultimate events like the the

955
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,760
tracker, because they don't even
show Beatrice Chibet up there as

956
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,240
the wild card because they know 
that like she's out on on 

957
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,680
maternity leave, but that like 
Beatrice Chibet's name doesn't 

958
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,720
even even show up. 
But yeah, so for this one, it's 

959
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:33,360
it's 12 spots. 
The only American right now in 

960
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:37,360
the whole field is Shelby 
Houlihan who is 7th on there. 

961
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,440
Parker Valby's outside right now
ranked 16th but with a good 

962
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,040
showing and Celestia could 
probably move into to the 

963
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,920
picture. 
Rose Davies who is coming off of

964
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:51,880
those Commonwealth Games is 
sitting in 11th right now and 

965
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:57,840
part of that is from the 3K at 
the London Diamond League and 

966
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,800
then the five KS at the Tokyo 
World Championships. 

967
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,320
So some people are benefiting 
from. 

968
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,760
Last year's World Championships 
is, as I click into, you know, 

969
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,280
kind of that bottom, that bottom
tier of the people qualified so 

970
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,320
far. 
So we'll probably have a bit 

971
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:21,840
more rankings crunching and 
tracking in episodes to come 

972
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:28,360
over the next couple weeks. 
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973
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,400
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984
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986
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01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:42,880
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996
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,720
Some more random stories that 
took place over the last week or

997
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,440
so. 
Did you follow along with this 

998
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,800
Daniel Denasimiento story, 
Preet? 

999
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:16,080
As in, I heard he'd gone missing
and and it was all very 

1000
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,320
mysterious, but that was kind of
about as much as I knew about 

1001
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,440
it. 
So yeah, what what happened 

1002
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:24,480
after that? 
Yeah, he was missing for 44 

1003
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,200
days. 
That's a long time. 

1004
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,720
And his family, I guess, had 
last seen him June 19th. 

1005
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,000
And he was like the report that 
they gave to police when they 

1006
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,960
described him was that he like, 
left with the black backpack and

1007
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,080
that was it. 
Then I think a month goes by and

1008
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,320
his birthday was like sometime 
in late July, and no one had 

1009
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,240
heard from him. 
So then they finally reported 

1010
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:53,400
him missing and it took a couple
days, but they did find him 

1011
01:02:53,480 --> 01:03:02,120
alive in Sao Paulo 44 days later
and some pedestrian recognized 

1012
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:07,720
him on the street, called the 
local authorities and he was 

1013
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,800
they managed to reunite him with
his family. 

1014
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,960
But yeah, it was there. 
The, the police and, and 

1015
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,320
investigators haven't shared too
much about just sort of what 

1016
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,280
prompted the disappearance, but 
it's a weird one for sure. 

1017
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:26,000
His mom was doing I think a 
couple media rounds in the days 

1018
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:32,120
leading up once he was reported 
missing because she'd said that 

1019
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,280
he'd been dealing with some 
mental health issues. 

1020
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,120
He's also currently serving A5 
year ban after testing positive 

1021
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,160
for like 3 different banned 
substances. 

1022
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:49,360
And so, yeah, I could see where,
you know, there's there's not a 

1023
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,480
ton of compassion in, in, in 
committing the doping crimes. 

1024
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,320
But of course, like if someone's
going through something mentally

1025
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:59,640
as a result of losing their 
livelihood, it comes as a 

1026
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:03,760
consequence of your actions when
you chose to break, break the 

1027
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,480
rules. 
But yeah, you just hate to see 

1028
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,120
scary stuff like this happen to 
people's families. 

1029
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,080
And so glad he's doing all right
now. 

1030
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,280
Hopefully you can make it 
through the rest of his doping 

1031
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,840
ban if he chooses to make a 
comeback. 

1032
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:21,440
Probably not, but without any 
sort of future disappearances. 

1033
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:27,040
But it was a weird one because 
again, the lead character in the

1034
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,520
story is someone who's currently
serving a doping bed. 

1035
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,920
So yeah, that was a that was a 
funky one. 

1036
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:40,000
Next story that I queued up, 
Dennis Kip Kemoy, Kip Kogi. 

1037
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,440
We talked about him a little 
bit, I think on the podcast 

1038
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:49,360
months ago because we maybe 
touched on the fact that there 

1039
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,240
was like this half marathon in 
Berlin that took place. 

1040
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,440
Do you remember this period? 
Vaguely, but. 

1041
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:02,280
And he ran 5911 in that race but
let let the guy win 'cause he 

1042
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,280
was in it to pace. 
Oh, that's the guy. 

1043
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:06,800
Yes, of course. 
Yeah. 

1044
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,040
And so he was feeling great at 
that at, at, you know, while 

1045
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,560
running that race. 
And yeah, we'll see. 

1046
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:20,160
He's also around 2725 for 10K, 
but he turns 25 years old. 

1047
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:25,320
I think this week he he's going 
to be a freshman at Texas. 

1048
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:33,840
So, yeah, it's it's one of those
where, listen, we just I got the

1049
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:41,240
NCAA eligibility rules are 
changing five year, five years 

1050
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,800
to to complete your eligibility,
but none of that takes place 

1051
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,280
until fall 2027. 
And so because this year 

1052
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:57,680
athletes coming in are recruited
under the old rules, then this 

1053
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,040
means that I guess like he's 
going to be able to compete for 

1054
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,960
I think it's the next four years
based on the age based model. 

1055
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,800
I haven't entirely dove too deep
into. 

1056
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,600
The regular, regular 
eligibility, right. 

1057
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,840
So it's just yeah, it will. 
So I don't know whether you can 

1058
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:20,240
Reg share or anything but. 
My head it's, it's just so head 

1059
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,960
scratching to me, 'cause we had 
this with Solomon Kipchogi just 

1060
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:28,080
a couple of years ago as well, 
where these guys have run these,

1061
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,960
you know, prominent half 
marathons out in Europe where 

1062
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:36,560
you presume finishing second, 
fifth, whatever it might be. 

1063
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:38,800
There's some prize money there, 
right? 

1064
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:45,360
They're they're kitted out in 
professional Nike or Adidas kits

1065
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,720
and so they look like they're 
professionals and then all of a 

1066
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:55,080
sudden the NCAA finds a way to, 
you know, find them eligibility.

1067
01:06:55,560 --> 01:07:00,400
So that's where in the past, I 
think there have been some cases

1068
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:05,320
with soccer players losing some 
eligibility upon further review 

1069
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,840
of having some sort of 
professional stature. 

1070
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:13,760
But yeah, I think this guy has a
chance of winning the NCA title.

1071
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:18,400
I, I, it feels like, I suppose 
being professional in track and 

1072
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,840
field doesn't really get you 
very much, so maybe that's why 

1073
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,680
they don't care so much, right? 
There might be like a threshold.

1074
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:28,080
It's like how much money did you
actually make before? 

1075
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,120
Like, to be considered a 
professional. 

1076
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:35,680
And So what did he only collect 
$5000 in that race And, and made

1077
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,920
zero and was on some sort of 
gear deal. 

1078
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,880
And so that's not enough 
necessarily to make him 

1079
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,160
ineligible. 
I don't know. 

1080
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:49,440
But like, it's like the the NCAA
announcing these age limits and 

1081
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,720
then delaying it is what has 
like, created this weird window 

1082
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,000
for the next year. 
Yeah. 

1083
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,640
And. 
I I guess they kind of had to, 

1084
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:00,520
they had to delay it because 
athletes for 24/20/26 had 

1085
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:01,880
already been. 
Recruited. 

1086
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Right, but I and I, and I don't 
know how long ago they recruited

1087
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:11,360
this guy and whether, you know, 
he was, he was recruited before 

1088
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,520
or after that announcement was, 
was made. 

1089
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,800
But because like for example, in
my my day job, when they change 

1090
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,600
a tax rule, for example, they 
say from the day it's announced 

1091
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,640
you can't then. 
So if you'd already recruited 

1092
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,399
people under or you already done
stuff under the old rules, 

1093
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,399
that's all fine. 
But from the day it's announced,

1094
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,840
you can't do anything more. 
But I guess they didn't really 

1095
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:37,120
apply that here because I guess 
some schools may not have filled

1096
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,920
their recruiting class by the 
point that announcement was 

1097
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,880
made. 
And so that kind of changes the 

1098
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,439
dynamic a little bit. 
Yeah, I understand that. 

1099
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,920
Some of these coaches are not 
necessarily breaking rules. 

1100
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:54,040
This is the system that like is 
in place. 

1101
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,520
And so you're you're you're 
taking advantage of it as much 

1102
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,640
as you can. 
If you if your job and your 

1103
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:06,000
contract incentivizes you to win
conference championships or 

1104
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,439
place as high as possible and 
then qualify for like the NCAA 

1105
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,720
cross country championships. 
But in the end, it's sort of 

1106
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:20,279
signals like for certain coaches
that's like, oh, like you want 

1107
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:24,800
the easy way to win. 
And instead of, you know, 

1108
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:30,520
actually taking the time and 
chance on a high schooler and 

1109
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,279
then developing sort of that 
talent over the next couple 

1110
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,279
years, again, like it's not 
necessarily again, you're doing 

1111
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:39,880
something against the rules. 
But I do think that other people

1112
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,960
should take note and be like, 
oh, that that guy is a coach who

1113
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,120
is just, you know, bringing in 
these free agents, which is 

1114
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,120
essentially what they are to 
come in and try and win versus 

1115
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:58,040
like, oh, I like this coach 
because you can actually see 

1116
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,000
that they are working with their
athletes from when they were 

1117
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,640
freshmen all the way through 
their senior years and 

1118
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:08,400
developing sort of that talent. 
So, yeah, I mean, it's some, 

1119
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,360
some people will, will, will 
take the the easy way to finish 

1120
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,320
a couple spots higher at the NCA
cross country championships. 

1121
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:22,160
But I definitely give some kudos
and props to the coaches who are

1122
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,840
opting to stay on the path of 
like, no, this is the NCAA has 

1123
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,720
always been like a great 
development system for athletes 

1124
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,520
from all over the world. 
Like you again, like you look at

1125
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:37,600
some of these athletes like 
Josh, like you know, Josh Kerr, 

1126
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,080
he came through at Ollie Hoare, 
came through the NCAA system, 

1127
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,320
has found, found ways to have 
success at the international 

1128
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,160
level. 
So Kylie Robinson. 

1129
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,360
Exactly. 
So yeah. 

1130
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:54,600
Then there's there's also like 
no guarantee it ever works, 

1131
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,880
right? 
When you do bring in this 5911 

1132
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:02,640
guy faster than any American 
half marathoner in history, 

1133
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:07,480
because who knows? 
Like Solomon Kapchogi was maybe 

1134
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:09,440
on paper. 
You look at those times and you 

1135
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,600
think, oh, this dude's going to 
dominate the cross country 

1136
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,080
championships and then he didn't
like the first year. 

1137
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,320
I think he like DNS at the 
championships and then last year

1138
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,400
ended up finishing third. 
So there might be like that 

1139
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:26,440
adjustment period from going 
from living at altitude and 

1140
01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:31,000
training in these camps and all 
you do is running to then having

1141
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:36,240
to move out to somewhere like 
Austin, TX. 

1142
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:43,880
In this case, have a coach 
you're running maybe less or on 

1143
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:45,720
different surfaces at the very 
least. 

1144
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,880
And then on top of that, you add
in a class schedule as well. 

1145
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:52,680
So the school part of it maybe 
throws things into a flux as 

1146
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,080
well. 
So we'll see how this whole 

1147
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,640
thing pans out. 
But it did just get a little bit

1148
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:03,720
harder for Rocky Hanson to win 
the NCAA cross country 

1149
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,680
championships. 
Haftam Samuel just left and he's

1150
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:11,320
turning pro. 
But so now well, as it gets 

1151
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:15,920
closer, probably bring back on 
Isaac Wood to preview the NCAA 

1152
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,760
cross country season. 
But I thought that that was an 

1153
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:25,440
interesting story that came out.
All right, very briefly, let's 

1154
01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:30,800
touch on U 20s coming up. 
I I mean, not coming up. 

1155
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,600
It just it started today. 
It's happening as we're 

1156
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,720
recording this. 
I have it up on this monitor by 

1157
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,920
me for you, I guess like are 
there any particular races that 

1158
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,360
you're excited by? 
Well, I mean, I think just 

1159
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,760
stepping back, obviously we were
looking forward to gout, gout. 

1160
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,680
We were looking forward to Sam 
Ruth and we were looking forward

1161
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,800
to or I was certainly looking 
forward to Phoebe Gill. 

1162
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:58,640
And unfortunately all three of 
those have all withdrawn with 

1163
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,640
injuries over the past past few 
months. 

1164
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,040
I mean, you know, I think the 
sprints are always probably the 

1165
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,280
better races to watch at U 20s 
because if you look at the 

1166
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:12,920
records going back like in terms
of people who then become 

1167
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:16,640
medalists on the world stage, 
you will see a lot of those 

1168
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:18,840
transition probably a bit more 
quickly. 

1169
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,200
And whilst in sort of the middle
distance distance races, you 

1170
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:27,560
know, there isn't as high a hit 
rate of transition to the sort 

1171
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,920
of, you know, senior level 
because there is just a very big

1172
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,920
gap right to get up to that 
level. 

1173
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,360
And some people just don't get 
that. 

1174
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,560
Whilst I think in the sprints 
actually, you've already got, 

1175
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,720
you know, Shenoya Douglas from 
Jamaica, she's already run sub 

1176
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,360
11. 
She's already world class, 

1177
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,680
right? 
You're starting, you've got Tate

1178
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,600
Taylor, he's won a Diamond 
League for heaven's sake. 

1179
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,040
You know, like he's beaten. 
Let's see late Tomogo, who's the

1180
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:52,440
Olympic champion at 200 meters. 
Like you've got those kind of 

1181
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:57,240
athletes in the mix. 
So I think, yeah, I think those 

1182
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,160
100 meters and 200 meter races I
think are, are by far and away 

1183
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:04,200
the most interesting. 
You know, Jamaica's Gary Card 

1184
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,480
versus Tate Taylor is a really 
exciting match up in the 100. 

1185
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:15,280
And the the, the sort of the 
Maxwell twins from the US and 

1186
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,920
Shenoy Douglas are kind of 
fascinating in the in the 

1187
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,320
women's hundred along with Kelly
Antoala, who's just 16 from 

1188
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,600
Italy. 
And she's been running like 

1189
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,720
Italian, like sort of national 
junior records every time she 

1190
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:28,960
runs. 
So she's getting better and 

1191
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,680
better. 
So she's like one of those 

1192
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,120
athletes that could break out. 
And then obviously in the 400, 

1193
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,760
you've got Quincy. 
Wilson the rematch. 

1194
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:41,520
Versus Jaden DeLeon, yes, 
obviously Quincy Wilson got 

1195
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:46,320
second in the the 20 champs, and
yeah, he'll be wanting to get 

1196
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,160
his lick back. 
I'm looking forward to that 

1197
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,680
race. 
That'll be, I think one of the 

1198
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:55,040
better ones of of the 
championships rooting for for 

1199
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:59,200
for Quincy, especially because, 
you know, we've covered him 

1200
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,880
super closely over the last four
years. 

1201
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:09,720
And also just great for the 
redemption arc story in the 

1202
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,560
distance events. 
You did a great job there of 

1203
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:18,040
summarizing the sprints for 
Jamaicans like this is a great 

1204
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,080
showcase for Shanoe Douglas and 
and Gary Card. 

1205
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,480
Like those are going to be, I 
think some of the stars from 

1206
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:30,640
from this one on the distance 
side of things, again, it's just

1207
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,360
sort of we're going to learn a 
lot of names. 

1208
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:39,120
Franklin Cabet from Kenya is 
maybe the favorite. 

1209
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,920
Actually, he is the favorite in 
the 5K. 

1210
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:48,000
He won World Cross back in 
Tallahassee and ran thirteen O 8

1211
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:52,600
in Paris. 
So watch for him in the 5K in 

1212
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:58,320
the women's 3K5K. 
Uganda's charity chair op like 

1213
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:03,000
she ran 839 in Oslo and has run 
1439. 

1214
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,120
Think about that. 
Like if we had an NCAA athlete 

1215
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,080
run 1439, we'd be losing our 
minds. 

1216
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,640
So she'll be the star in that 
one. 

1217
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,640
Women's eight opened up right? 
And once Phoebe Gill scratched. 

1218
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,200
Yeah. 
I mean, I think there's yeah, 

1219
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:24,520
there's there's one athlete you 
sub two, Serena, Ziva Remich. 

1220
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,560
But then yeah, the, I think it's
a, there's a, then there's an 

1221
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,000
Ethiopian athlete, Hampton 
Gebbier, who who's also run sub 

1222
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,160
2. 
So they're the only two athletes

1223
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,600
sub 2. 
So I think it's relatively open.

1224
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,880
Obviously there's Paige Shepherd
from the US. 

1225
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,160
She's run 201 and and kind of 
raced really well at USAS. 

1226
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,360
I want a sub two out of age in 
in yeah. 

1227
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:48,480
Exactly, And I and I think in 
the right race, and I think this

1228
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,880
might be a slightly better race 
for it 'cause there's a lot of 

1229
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,800
athletes who'll kind of be 
running together and, and she'll

1230
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,120
have people to run with. 
I think so that that could that 

1231
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,400
could be a really good race for 
her. 

1232
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:08,200
If you're looking for some feel 
good US stories and and athletes

1233
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,680
to watch in that fifth women's 
1500, although it's going to be 

1234
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,040
tough because Ethiopia is Oh my 
gosh, this is a tough name. 

1235
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:23,120
Howard Gawney Kalayu Kalayu. 
She's running 359. 

1236
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,280
Yeah, no, she's been on a few of
the diamond leagues this season,

1237
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:27,960
so. 
I think 5 times she's been in 5 

1238
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,240
diamond leagues. 
Yeah. 

1239
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,160
So yeah, we talked about her a 
little bit in some of our. 

1240
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:36,880
So I mean she's going to be 
tough to beat, but some good 

1241
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,200
stories. 
Ellery Lincoln. 

1242
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,920
She ran four O 7 for 1500 at the
pre classic and finished 8th. 

1243
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,920
I believe that was in the the B 
section and she's going off to 

1244
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:52,160
to Oregon. 
Her mom ran four O 4 and won in 

1245
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,680
NCAA indoor 3K title. 
Her dad was also a professional 

1246
01:17:56,680 --> 01:18:01,240
runner. 
So she she's pretty good. 

1247
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,760
But then again, Claire Stagall 
was the one who beat her at the 

1248
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,960
U20 championships, ran four O 4 
there. 

1249
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,240
And then also, I think Claire 
held her own against the pros at

1250
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:18,680
the US Championships. 
So not out of it's it wouldn't 

1251
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,640
be too crazy to think that maybe
the Americans have a shot at a 

1252
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,400
medal here and that'd be really 
good to see. 

1253
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:29,240
So, yeah, so you can watch EU 20
Championships taking place out 

1254
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,640
in Eugene, OR if you've got a 
Peacock account, I believe 

1255
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,080
they're streaming the whole 
entire thing, so pretty easy to 

1256
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,720
find. 
But yeah, that's the U20 

1257
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:43,680
championships. 
Next week we've got the European

1258
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,160
Championships, right? 
When's that start officially? 

1259
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,520
So that starts on Monday day 
10th of August and day one is 

1260
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:56,040
Jakob Ingeritsen day. 
So maybe we we got on the mics 

1261
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,760
after that one or, or on 
Tuesday, Tuesday morning. 

1262
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:02,200
What? 
What would need to happen for a 

1263
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,520
Jakob Ingebridge an Emergency 
podcast? 

1264
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,520
I don't mean an emergency 
podcast. 

1265
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:08,480
We normally record on a Monday 
night. 

1266
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,200
It's my time. 
I'll be at the stadium Monday 

1267
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,640
night watching Jakob. 
So I was just thinking, you 

1268
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,960
know, that would be, we will be 
recording I assume shortly 

1269
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,720
thereafter anyway, hopefully 
next week, so. 

1270
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:25,080
Yeah, OK. 
I I guess I was meant to say I 

1271
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,240
was like. 
Wait, I'm not, I'm not 

1272
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,720
suggesting he will be in 
emergency podcast territory. 

1273
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:33,040
No, no. 
Although he's not going to break

1274
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,960
a world record, is he? 
So no. 

1275
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,280
Yeah, I guess that that's that's
been the threshold so far this 

1276
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,080
year. 
His emergency podcasts have been

1277
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:44,760
reserved for Keely's, Keely's 
world record indoors and Josh is

1278
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,840
my all world record, right. 
I think those have been the two 

1279
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,680
big ones. 
And the saways. 

1280
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,040
To something, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1281
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,720
So yeah, the world record, the 
big world records. 

1282
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,520
Yeah, awesome. 
All right, Well, that does it 

1283
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,680
for this episode, everyone. 
Once again, I do want to hear 

1284
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,600
your comments in the Spotify 
comments section on what you 

1285
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,240
want to see from Josh Kerr for 
the rest of the season. 

1286
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,640
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1287
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,080
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1288
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:18,920
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1289
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,160
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1290
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,160
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1291
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,240
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1292
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:30,080
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1293
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,280
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1294
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,160
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1296
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:42,600
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1297
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:44,960
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1299
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,720
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