1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:02,680 This. Episode of the City Smack 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,880 podcast is presented by USA track and field. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,800 All right, if you love speed, power and championship moments, 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,520 lock in right now. The USATF Indoor Track and Field 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,880 Championships presented by Prevagen are back in New York 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,800 City from February 28th through March 1st at the Ocean Breeze 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,680 Athletic Complex in Staten Island. 8 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:26,680 This is where legends don't just race, they punch their ticket to 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,520 the world stage. The pressures reel, the margins 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,000 are razor thin, and every athlete is fighting for one 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,080 thing, a spot on Team USATF at the World Indoor Championships. 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,240 The star power? 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My guests for today's episode 57 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,840 are Kimberly May, Shannon Flockhart, and Alex Millard. 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,760 We're juggling a lot of people on one Zoom call, and they're 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,200 joining us fresh into the next chapter of their careers as 60 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,000 members of Team New Balance Boston. 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,920 At this point in the week, through our partnership with New 62 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:06,920 Balance, we've brought you interviews with Rocheen, Willis, 63 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:10,840 Victoria Bossong, Margo Appleton and now the ones who are easy 64 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:11,680 to. Group together. 65 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,680 As the Providence Big Three, all three join the team with deep 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,320 NCAA pedigrees, international experience, very different paths 67 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,880 that somehow converge at exactly the right moment. 68 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,400 Kimberly May leaves college as one of the most accomplished 69 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,520 1500 meter runners in New Zealand history. 70 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,880 Shannon Flockhart brings European Championship medals and 71 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,880 championship toughness. Alex Millard arrives fresh off 72 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,200 of the World Cross Country Championships relay experience 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,520 and off of a year that included personal best in the 1500, the 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,600 mile and the 5K. In this conversation they talk 75 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,520 about. What it actually feels like. 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,080 When the dream becomes real and they sign pro contracts, 77 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,560 navigating the transition from NIL relationships, we touch on 78 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,560 their shared history as teammates at Providence and how 79 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,200 that has made the leap into the professional ranks a little bit 80 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,520 easier. What altitude training was like 81 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,880 and why being around a group that includes a world champion 82 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,680 like Ellie Saint Pierre has raised everyone's standard. 83 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,600 There's also plenty of joy in the year ahead with new 84 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,360 routines, and all three of them are excited for what's next. 85 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,959 So without further ado, here is the Providence Big Three of Team 86 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:34,040 New Balance Boston. All right, now I welcome on the 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,920 worst kept secret for Team New Balance. 88 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,520 And like the new additions, we've got Kimberly May, Alex 89 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Millard and Shannon Flockhart, who just joined Team New Balance 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,840 Boston. And so now a couple months into 91 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,120 the professional running ranks, I guess I'll start with 92 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,280 Kimberly. It's, I guess almost been like 2 93 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:57,040 years since we did like the podcast. 94 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,520 And I think it was probably after we stopped recording, I 95 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,480 said, I asked you about like Nils and if you had any, 96 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,320 anything at that point. And you, you said no. 97 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,280 And I was like, oh, what about New Balance? 98 00:05:09,280 --> 00:05:13,840 Like there's, you know, there's a former New Providence, you 99 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,880 know, runner who's in the sports marketing department over at New 100 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,960 Balance that like, I'm sure she'd love to sign some 101 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,360 Providence athletes. And you're like, oh, that would 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,800 be a dream. Like New Balance would probably 103 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,880 be my number one. And look at this now. 104 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,720 It's it's come true. And not only was it an NIL deal, 105 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,920 they've given you your first job out of college. 106 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,320 So I guess what's happened like. Yeah, it's crazy. 107 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:39,760 My dreams literally have come true. 108 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,960 So it's insane. I actually was talking to the 109 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,920 girls today about our podcast. It was literally 2 years ago 110 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,120 basically to the day, which is funny. 111 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,240 But yeah, at that point I would have never thought I could be a 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,000 professional runner. So it's really full circle and 113 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,720 it's honestly been such an easy process with everything. 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,760 I just fell in love with everyone to do with New Balance 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,920 and the brand. And obviously having my Ini 116 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,800 Allen College really helped make it easy because I feel like I've 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,600 worked with him for a while. So it honestly just feels really 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,360 full circle. Shannon, I guess for you, like 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,000 you and Kimberly, I guess were announced at the same exact time 120 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,360 when you guys signed your Nils. Like was the process, I guess, 121 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,800 of figuring out who you were gonna sign with and all that 122 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,720 stuff. Like pretty seamless as a result 123 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,760 of just sort of nil? I'd say so. 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,440 I feel like there wasn't really any other option. 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,320 And once we knew it could be a possibility, it was the only 126 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,720 possibility I want to say because, yeah, like Kim, like I 127 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,200 think before I even went to Province, like New Balance 128 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,520 Boston, like Abby D'agostino, like Corey McGee, like, it's 129 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,920 just always been such a cool thing in my head that when I was 130 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,280 like, wait, I can be on that team. 131 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:51,800 It was just like, I've got to go. 132 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,720 Alex, you also had a New Balance Nil, but I feel like it was also 133 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,760 just like the most secret one of of all of them because like, it 134 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,680 wasn't as like put them up on a graphic or like on blasting it 135 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,080 on social media. So for you, I guess, like, what 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,080 was the nil experience like? And then ultimately, you know, 137 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,560 did it give you further confidence in signing with New 138 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,680 Balance? Yeah, I guess my situation was a 139 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,840 bit different. I was lucky enough to get the 140 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,920 opportunity to go to Providence for a year after I did my 141 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,120 undergrad in the UK and it just kind of happened. 142 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,680 So naturally I feel like I fit right in with the girls and with 143 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,640 the whole New Balance thing. And similar to what the girls 144 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,480 said, it kind of, it's the pathway. 145 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,480 I felt it was a bit of a pathway to New Balance. 146 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,520 I feel like joining the team. So, yeah, having that was really 147 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,960 nice and we had a great, a great year of training and competing, 148 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,800 yeah, with the hopes of maybe going pro at the end of it, 149 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,760 which luckily that that's how it worked out. 150 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,280 So that's been amazing. All right, So for each of you, I 151 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,080 guess, what was the point in your final year in the NCAA 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:02,440 where you're like, OK, I think turning Pro is a realistic 153 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,760 option for me. And I mean, I guess maybe it 154 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,360 could have been like even the year before that. 155 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,480 I guess I'll start with Shannon. Like did you have sort of that 156 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,080 moment where you're like, all right, I think like that's a 157 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,520 good enough mark or time that I'm like, I think I could do 158 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,840 this after my eligibility's up. I honestly feel like maybe it 159 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,600 happened my junior year more because I won't say that I was 160 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,760 that happy with my senior year. So I think, yeah, I feel like 161 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,240 the NIL and my junior more set it up. 162 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,120 And then senior year it was like kind of like me, like looking 163 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,880 for reassurance, like do you still want me sort of thing. 164 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,000 But there was moments that I was like, OK, yeah, this is still a 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,760 good decision. But that's why it was so nice to 166 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,280 have that previous relationship with New Balance and that, like 167 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,400 they were reassuring me that, you know, everything was going 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,520 to be fine in that one season doesn't change the decision and 169 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,920 that it's still I was still something they wanted to have on 170 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,680 the team. Alex, what about you? 171 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,560 I guess when was, when did you think, all right, this is going 172 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:05,200 to be an option for me? Yeah, so I think I had decent 173 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,360 success back home in the UK and in Europe. 174 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,080 I went to Laffer University training and working with coach 175 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,760 Bill Foster, which was great. I couldn't say no to the 176 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,800 opportunity of coming over to the NCA, but it was all very new 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,760 to me, so there's a lot of adjusting going on. 178 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,440 And yeah, I just did the best I could. 179 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,800 I was pretty frustrated with my both of my track national 180 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,720 appearances, but I think I was. I was just happy to be able to 181 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,560 go to all three of them in the year I was there. 182 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,560 And then I came back and I actually ran better maybe when I 183 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,000 got back home and kind of went to Europe. 184 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,520 And I felt like I got the most out of myself over the summer. 185 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,240 So yeah, I feel like I felt good about that. 186 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:54,000 But with the NIL, I'm grateful to have had that kind of support 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,240 from New Balance where I felt kind of secure in where it was 188 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,400 leading potentially. So yeah, I'm just grateful for 189 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,080 their belief and for the amazing stuff we have now. 190 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,160 When I guess for you, Alex, like having done your undergrad in 191 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,640 the UK, you hear all this stuff about like the NCAA and you 192 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,360 know, the system and how it prepares you for championship, 193 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,720 you know, style racing on the global stage. 194 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,240 I guess what were the biggest lessons you took away in that in 195 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 that one year? Yeah, definitely that. 196 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,720 I always say to people when they ask me that, I think going over 197 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,280 to the NCAA really taught me to enjoy racing because you just, 198 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,120 you have to race. You kind of don't really get the 199 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,040 option. And, and, but I think it's, it's 200 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,080 difficult, it's intense, it's tough. 201 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,640 And yeah, I think I definitely felt that sometimes when I got 202 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,600 to the big ones. But it, yeah, I learned so much 203 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,120 and I learned to not put so much pressure on one race. 204 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,080 And yeah, it allows you to sort of move on to the next one quite 205 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,120 quickly, which I enjoyed. Kimberly, I guess for you the 206 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,600 the thought about turning pro after, you know, the NIL after 207 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,160 all, American status and and finishing high up at like 208 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,160 NCAA's, like what? When when did the thoughts start 209 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,800 to cross your mind? I think I might have been the 210 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,240 person that until I saw, until I really start talking, I was 211 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,280 always a bit, I was like, I don't think it's going to 212 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,000 happen. Like I was just kind of scared 213 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,280 because it's like I've always dreamed about it. 214 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,880 But I would say, yeah, working with the NIL my junior year, I 215 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,320 was really, I'd say like through just being consistent my junior, 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,840 senior year, I was like in meeting with people and talking, 217 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,040 it gave me confidence and I knew that I was like, OK, I think I 218 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,600 can keep this going if I just keep it up. 219 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,440 But I mean, I was like, I'm never going to be confident 220 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,840 until I know for sure. What I guess is the most 221 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,920 encouraging part of going through all of this together, 222 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,800 It's kind of funny because anytime you know there's a 223 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,680 reference to the three of you, it's just it's still like the 224 00:11:57,680 --> 00:12:01,120 Providence girls, right? Like I'm sure like at New 225 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,560 Balance, it just makes someone like Mark's job so much easier. 226 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:06,640 Is like, oh, where where are the Providence girls, right? 227 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Like, that's probably how you guys get referred to constantly. 228 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,480 But you know, you're going through your first professional 229 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,480 season all at the same time, all at the same team. 230 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Like what? What are the benefits of of 231 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,320 going through this together? I guess I'll go to Kimberly. 232 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,560 We're so lucky. I'm so grateful to have them. 233 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,160 I lived with Alex from my senior year in college. 234 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,280 I now live with her in the same apartment. 235 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,320 So honestly, not much has changed, which is really nice 236 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,240 because obviously our whole world is changing and now it 237 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:37,960 feels like not that big of an adjustment. 238 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,800 And honestly, we're only an hour away from Providence, which 239 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,800 again, is really nice because we still have that connection with 240 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,640 our teammates there, which is really nice to still be able to 241 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,560 go see them on the weekends when we want to. 242 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,120 So I think we're like the luckiest people in the world for 243 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,200 this. And I guess from my 244 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,720 understanding you guys have like the the shortest commute 245 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,400 possible to to work, right? We live on the street of the 246 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:07,680 track and I I don't drive, I don't have my license, so I take 247 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:11,560 this. He had just no license at all. 248 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,960 No, I blame I had to move across the world when I was young. 249 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,000 OK. Fair enough. 250 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,720 All right, Shannon, for you, what's, what's the best part 251 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,840 about going through all of this together? 252 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Yeah, it's just been like I knew Alex from when we were like 253 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,920 1415, like we want England teams together and then we went to 254 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,800 European under 20 threes together. 255 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:43,440 And like, then obviously having Kim throughout my whole career 256 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,120 Providence, like the fact that we're all, it still doesn't feel 257 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:50,680 real, honestly. Like I can ask to like do it 258 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:54,000 with anyone else. And it's just crazy that like 259 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,760 Kim coming all the way from New Zealand and like Alex and me had 260 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:00,800 different pathways, but we've all just ended up in the same 261 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 place. It does feel special. 262 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,760 And Mark also refers to Margo now as the 4th prior. 263 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,360 So she's a, we've actually recruited her story Virginia. 264 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,200 So yeah. Alex, what about you? 265 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,160 What, what are your thoughts on just sort of like the whole it's 266 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,600 just an extension of your, your guys's time together at 267 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,520 Providence? Yeah, just like Shannon said, 268 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,080 sometimes I'm like, this isn't real. 269 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,720 It's amazing. And I always say about the 270 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,160 European champs, if you would have told me then me and Shannon 271 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 were roommates that I would end up at Providence and then at 272 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Team New Balance Blossom with with her and with Kim, I would 273 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,200 have been like, what? So yeah, it's just worked out 274 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:42,960 amazingly. And I feel I'll go on Kim. 275 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Sorry, I just it's an embarrassing story, but they 276 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,680 were roommates at European on the 23 and Shannon would send me 277 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,640 photos like this is Alex and I was freaking out. 278 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,000 I was like, Oh my gosh, it's Alex. 279 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,960 And like then we became roommates. 280 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,560 I would have never. Thought, yeah, so funny. 281 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,080 And I just think that year at Providence was just really 282 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,800 special, like what we went through together. 283 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,960 It was such a fun year. We just, yeah, we were all very 284 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:16,480 solid and united together. And yeah, it's just ended up in 285 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,760 the perfect way of being able to continue that training together. 286 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,560 So it's great. So Alex, in what ways do things 287 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,080 feel different? Like what are, where are the 288 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,440 areas where these first couple months have just been? 289 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,960 You're like, all right, well, that's not the same as it was at 290 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,960 at Providence. We are roommates in Kim, but we 291 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,440 have our own room now, which is quite nice because we were in a 292 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,400 room which honestly wasn't the worst. 293 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,840 I enjoyed it. It was great. 294 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,400 But yeah, it does feel we had kind of the whole, the whole 295 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,440 full autumn without racing, which was different. 296 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,480 So that was the first time since probably going to yeah college 297 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,040 that we've had a big training block like that without racing. 298 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:07,400 So that was quite different and fun to just sort of chill and 299 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,200 just enjoy settling in and training and getting used to the 300 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,920 new training. I'd say that's the main thing 301 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,400 for me. Shannon, in what ways is Mark's 302 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:21,200 training different from Ray's? Like I feel like it's just two 303 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,480 very old school coaches that I feel like they probably have a 304 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,840 lot more in common than they do. That's different. 305 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,960 Yeah, it's very, it's very similar. 306 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Honestly, I'd say this. The workouts are slightly 307 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,360 harder, more intense, and we're actually tempoing shorter now. 308 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:44,200 And Ray knows I hated tempoing. So that's that's been a positive 309 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,080 change for me. But yeah, it's been, as Alex 310 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,480 said, like, right, not bracing for such a long time. 311 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,040 Like I didn't race from August until last weekend. 312 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,560 So that was like, that hadn't happened since 2019 for me. 313 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,960 And then as well, we just got back from our first altitude 314 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,839 camp. So I think that was a really big 315 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,000 difference. And also it feels really weird, 316 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,319 like being able to choose which races. 317 00:17:13,319 --> 00:17:16,160 Like for five years it was just like, OK, you're gonna rally, 318 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,520 you're doing Big East, you're going to regionals, and 319 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,599 hopefully you're making NCAA's. And now it's like, oh, I can 320 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,480 actually pick what I want to do. I don't know if I like the 321 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,560 freedom. Can someone just tell me what to 322 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,000 do? But yeah, it's fun. 323 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,440 Kimberly, what stood out to you about Mark versus Ray? 324 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Honestly, yeah, they are like so similar in a way, but obviously 325 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,640 so different. I think honestly the big thing 326 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,320 is Ray's got a very strong Irish accent. 327 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,640 I was I was very scared of Ray at the start because he's very 328 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,600 blunt and obviously when you get to know him, he's like the most 329 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,760 sweetest person in literally helped me so much through 330 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,920 college. But he can come across if it's 331 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,680 intimidating where so maybe that would be the biggest thing for 332 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:09,520 me was just Mark is just so welcoming and warming. 333 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Not that Ray wasn't, but that that was the big thing. 334 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,560 And yes, they're honestly very similar. 335 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:19,800 So this is also kind of felt like a little bit of a refresh, 336 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,560 right for team New Balance Boston, right. 337 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,080 There was, I think a little changes obviously in the make up 338 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,160 of the roster last year. Then at the same time, like at 339 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,160 the heart of it, you still have Ellie Saint Pierre as kind of 340 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,480 like your de facto captain when it comes to just you know, 341 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,640 through her accolades and just like how great of a runner she 342 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,680 is. So you know, when you have 343 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,720 someone like Margo part of the team, you guys, you know, Katie, 344 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,360 when she's able to jump in on workouts from Boston, I guess 345 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:55,880 what's that been sort of like for all of it to come together 346 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:02,000 and like it's still sort of like pieces of team new bounce Boston 347 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,520 version one versus where as like you guys are like the next 348 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,560 generation. That's all coming that together. 349 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,680 So I guess Alex, what's you're pretty fresh on the scene of of 350 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,640 seeing it all come together. What have been your first 351 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,200 impressions of that? It's amazing having Ellie on the 352 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,960 team, like she's literally world champion and we saw her over the 353 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,960 weekend, how dominant she is and how incredible she is. 354 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,800 And I was actually joking to Margo when we were warming up 355 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,720 with how I felt like Ellie's little followers when we were 356 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,000 warming up, we were just following her around. 357 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:35,920 But it's just amazing to see the level. 358 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,640 And I think that's going to be, yeah, sort of the new thing of 359 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:41,240 trying to step up to that pro level. 360 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,040 It's going to be the next challenge, really, even though 361 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,600 the level in the NCAA is ridiculous also. 362 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,680 But yeah, we now got to got to try and step up to that pro 363 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:56,720 level, which is exciting. 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And like that's, that's I think 400 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,160 where I want to get to eventually. 401 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,480 What have, what has it been like to observe, you know, I guess 402 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,880 greatness up close? Oh, we, we definitely observed 403 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,360 that in Flag. Yeah. 404 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,880 It was really cool to have her there. 405 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,960 Ellie, a superwoman and her two kids. 406 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,760 She yeah, I don't know how she does it. 407 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,160 And it was really cool to just be able to see that in person 408 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 and try and hang on with her as long as possible. 409 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,160 There was one run that we we had to ask him if we could slow down 410 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,760 because he's a little fast. But no, she's great. 411 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,720 And yeah, it does kind of feel like she's our mother sometimes, 412 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,480 but it's been really fun. And then like having Kristian 413 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,200 and Kate, like when we're back in Boston, like it feels like 414 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,040 we're the freshmen and like the the seniors showing us like how 415 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,000 everything works around here. So feel really lucky. 416 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,720 You brought up the the Flagstaff trip, I guess what were some of 417 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,160 the first the the takeaways from some time at altitude? 418 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,640 I guess 'cause like, you guys weren't really able to spend 419 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,760 that long. Yeah, a whole month basically, 420 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,120 right? Like while you guys were in 421 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,960 college? It was like cool to be able to 422 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,560 go on actually like just a training camp and first time at 423 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,960 LSU 2 and like just living all together in the one house. 424 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,080 Yeah, it was definitely fun. I I'm glad we have more oxygen 425 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,280 now though. Kimberly, what were your 426 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,120 impressions? I really enjoyed it. 427 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,040 Yeah, it was exciting. It was cool just to be around 428 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,680 the environment is just amazing. You know, you go to the track 429 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,840 and there's just 50 all the runners you could ever think of 430 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,600 it just there and again, yeah, I just really enjoyed being all 431 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,880 together because we all got to live in a house. 432 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,920 So you you bond over those memories, obviously, like we are 433 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480 the new kids on the team. So I feel like having those 434 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,240 times and we got to see, you know, we're talking about Ali. 435 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,240 You know, you see her an environment, not on the track, 436 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,880 which it really opens your eyes and like you just gain so much 437 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,240 more respect for her because we see her as this amazing runner. 438 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,120 But then you can see her as A at home and you try to get close as 439 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,000 a team. So it was really, I loved it for 440 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 that aspect. Alex, I guess like what have 441 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,080 your last couple of months been like because you had world cross 442 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,320 Also they kind of like interrupted just sort of having 443 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,200 to being able to spend such a long time at altitude. 444 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,240 Yeah, so I didn't end up going to Flag in the end because I 445 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,840 took the opportunity to go to World Cross, which was really 446 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,440 fun, but I definitely missed the girls and the team. 447 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,200 When I was training at home. It was fine, but then it did get 448 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,680 a bit long. I got to the point where I was 449 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,160 like, I need them back now. So yeah, I was very happy when 450 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,400 they came back. And yeah, I'll definitely be 451 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:50,240 excited to go to Flag soon, hopefully in April, I think. 452 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,040 Yeah, before the outdoor season, right, as I guess Mark usually 453 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,040 yeah, plans another trip around then. 454 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:00,880 All right, so I'm curious like one thing is that when people 455 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,040 move on to professional running and you drop all these classes 456 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,080 is sometimes you pick up new hobbies, right. 457 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,680 You get there's just so much extra time in the day. 458 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,400 Maybe you haven't yet, but like, has something crossed your mind 459 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,320 of like, all right now with all this time I want to commit to 460 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,920 blank or is it like, I don't know, reading more or I don't 461 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,840 know, it's something else. I guess, Shannon, I'll go to you 462 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,880 first because I can tell, I guess Kimberly's like I need 463 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,400 some extra time to think on this answer. 464 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,480 Is there? What are you filling those extra 465 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,280 hours in the day with now? Well, I just started looking at 466 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,680 the jigsaw puzzle that me and Puzzle have on our coffee table 467 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,560 that we haven't finished since before Christmas because it's so 468 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:47,600 hard. We're still working on the 469 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,000 hobbies. OK, that's fair. 470 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,840 That's totally fine. Me and Margo are friends with 471 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,880 all the dogs in the building, if that counts. 472 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,560 There's a really cute one called Archie. 473 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,680 He's a corgi and he we're best friends of the owners now and he 474 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,960 makes my day. So I don't know. 475 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,720 We're trying. We're working on our dog walking 476 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320 business, but that that's going to be awful. 477 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,720 It's just, yeah, it's yeah, we're working on it. 478 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Alex, what about you? What, what, what have you picked 479 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,320 up just sort of with the extra hours of being a professional 480 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,960 runner? I've actually picked something 481 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,080 up since Christmas. My brother, I actually have to 482 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,520 thank for this. He, you know, Duolingo, the 483 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:27,600 language. Yeah. 484 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,800 Yeah. I've started doing French 485 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,280 because I actually did French A level, which is like our final 486 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,680 high school kind of exam. So I kind of know a little bit. 487 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,240 And I was like, I want to pick it back up again because I did 488 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200 notice the brain rot was starting to. 489 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,960 Yeah, I needed to stimulate the brain. 490 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,640 So yeah, I started like learning French again. 491 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,080 I feel like usually with with athletes, it's it's like, all 492 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,280 right, where's the next upcoming like world championship at that? 493 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,320 Like I could try and learn something and then so I guess 494 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,520 I'll but the next couple are just well with the next Olympics 495 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,640 it's LA so you don't need to learn English. 496 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,000 But then next one next year would be China. 497 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Chinese just seems way or Mandarin sounds way too 498 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,120 difficult to try and learn on Duolingo in one year. 499 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,360 So I think like French is probably your best option at 500 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:24,680 this point. Yeah, I'm enjoying it. 501 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,440 It's good. Yeah. 502 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,280 All right. Kimberly, what is what's the 503 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,960 hobby that you've picked up so far? 504 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,920 I feel like all I do is go to the coffee shop. 505 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,160 Kim, you have a pet. Hobby. 506 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,760 I do have a hobby I figured I really got into like activity 507 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,640 books. OK. 508 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,280 So a bit less hard than what Alex is doing, but I like I 509 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,560 color in or I loved word searches for a good while. 510 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Like I was just going through and doing word searches. 511 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,960 So that would probably be my hobby. 512 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,880 I was obsessed. I would do it for hours a day. 513 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,200 There you go. I mean, those are those are, 514 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,600 those are good ones. Yeah. 515 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,760 I mean, I that that's the sort of the challenge you're in your 516 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,760 first year. And also I think like I'm kind 517 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,840 of underplaying the side of just sort of professional running 518 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,520 where it's like, OK, you have these extra hours. 519 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,320 And then the answer mostly would be like, yeah, but I got to work 520 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,280 on the recovery side of things. And it was like, all right, that 521 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,320 napping is part of it as well. Yeah, sorry. 522 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,040 I will say I was always so scared of what am I going to do 523 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,560 with the day, but our day does go by really quick I feel like. 524 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,800 We're cracked as the half day we. 525 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Hang out for so long and then we're like, Oh my gosh, we've 526 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680 got to get back so we can ring the cookie. 527 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,120 Shop double is a hobby, Coffee is a hobby. 528 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,120 The. Coffee shop rot. 529 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720 We just rot in the coffee shop on this. 530 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,960 And also because it's like, sorry, it's a new apartment and 531 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,320 everything. I feel like throughout thought 532 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,160 we were sort of like doing our rooms a bit. 533 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,840 We could always find something talked by ourselves, I'd say. 534 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,920 Stop and shop. Yeah. 535 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,280 Yeah, decorating the new apartment, totally all fair 536 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,440 game. And those are easy ways to to 537 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,000 fill hours in the day. All right, I'm curious if you 538 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,640 guys have learned more about each other. 539 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,200 It's just kind of crazy of like if you could have already 540 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,280 because you spent so much time together at Providence, whether 541 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:24,760 now living and training together again, I guess like adds to 542 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,480 being able to learn or discover more. 543 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,280 So I'm going to quiz you guys on like who's most likely to do XYZ 544 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,760 and I'm curious who's like what your answers would be. 545 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:41,520 All right, let's see who's most likely to show up way too early 546 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,400 to an event. We'll go with, I guess with the 547 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,600 order we'll go on. Each of these would be Kimberly, 548 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,400 Shannon and Alex. So Kimberly, who's most likely 549 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,280 to show up way too early. Oh my gosh, none of us. 550 00:29:54,280 --> 00:30:01,280 We are not people. But if I, oh, I was, I was going 551 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,120 to say Shannon, but then I was like, no, I would say Alex. 552 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,360 No. No me. 553 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,040 No, no. Can you OK? 554 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,200 I'll take it me. Yeah. 555 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,040 All right. So who's most likely to show up 556 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,520 last or late to an event? Well. 557 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,000 I've been standing sneaky for this one that he does. 558 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,600 Because I'm always at the car first with Marco. 559 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,680 Oh, true. Maybe Alex? 560 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:35,360 It depends. Who takes the longest to get out 561 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,960 of the door for practice? Alex. 562 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:38,920 Alex. Alex. 563 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,160 All right. Pretty unanimous on that one. 564 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,240 Who has the craziest coffee order? 565 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:51,720 I can because Shandra I think. It's not like. 566 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,720 Oh, OK, this one, this one could be an interesting one. 567 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680 Who's the calmest in a call room before a race? 568 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:05,840 Ella, I just all right. Who's the least calm in the in 569 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:11,360 the in the call room before you? Cam, I just don't think I'm a 570 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,800 calm person in funeral. Who's most likely to forget 571 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,080 something important? Either spikes singlet headphones 572 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,920 but still somehow managed to have a good race. 573 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,880 Kim I. Don't know. 574 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Honestly, I don't think, Kim. I don't think you've ever 575 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,080 forgotten anything. No, I I'm really bad at like 576 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,000 displacing my keys, but when it comes to running I wouldn't like 577 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,160 I'm very so I wouldn't lose my spy. 578 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,440 You said you she wouldn't think she'd have it, but she would 579 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,840 have it, OK. Great, who's most likely to make 580 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,200 everyone laugh 5 minutes before the start of a race? 581 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,480 Probably Kim. Probably Kim. 582 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,080 All right then, who's the most serious before a race? 583 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,840 I feel like we'll. We'll be. 584 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,840 On par get down to like. Does everyone just calm? 585 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,040 I don't. Honestly, I don't think we are 586 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,600 that serious. Sometimes I see people and 587 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,240 they're locked in with their headphones. 588 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,720 I'm like, that's not us. I think we're pretty just like 589 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,400 in between, like. Like, I feel like, to be fair, I 590 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,160 feel like I've never really been in a cool room with Alex. 591 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,920 That's my big thing of like, yeah, me and. 592 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Alex, we have knowledge. We actually do. 593 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200 I never race, Alex. At EUR you did scare me. 594 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,960 Why? Which I did, yeah. 595 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,160 You were like game face. Oh God. 596 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,560 Yeah, Alex would be. I feel like it's time to be in 597 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,880 the corner like. Who's the most likely to say I 598 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,360 feel awful and then have a good race, or feel terrible in 599 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,080 practice and then like manages to actually do totally fine? 600 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,560 Shannon, me. Yeah, Shannon. 601 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,480 Yeah, Shannon. All right. 602 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,840 And then the final one I got is who's the most competitive at 603 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,720 non running things? Don't know, it's just so. 604 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,320 Hard because. I feel like we're pretty 605 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:52,360 similar. I don't know. 606 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,600 Everyone's just the same I feel like. 607 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,960 I'll have this. I feel like maybe Neil, Alex 608 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,040 would have a bit of like, I feel like Shannon would. 609 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,960 I think mean, Alex could get like, we're playing like a game. 610 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we both could get quite. 611 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,360 Positive. Yeah, I'm definitely, yeah, I 612 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,040 definitely be positive. I don't know, Shannon, I feel 613 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:12,960 like. I think. 614 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,960 Sneaky you think this? Guys, we've got to start with 615 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,360 the mischievous. Shannon, yeah, He's always the 616 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,280 Shannon's mischievous one. She's quiet but mischievous. 617 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,920 I guess like I've been I've recently been just like deep 618 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,440 into watching that show traders and I've always wondered like if 619 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,920 there was a professional runners. 620 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,840 I guess if there was a team New Balance Boston season of traders 621 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,680 like who would make a really good trader and it sounds Alex. 622 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,000 No, I think Shannon, Shannon, I love that show. 623 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,960 I think Shannon would be really good at it. 624 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,320 Because everyone would just trust her and then at some 625 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,120 point. I'd be the worst. 626 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,560 All right, fair enough. All right. 627 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,320 So final question I've got for each of you is 2026, no 628 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,080 traditional like world championship or Olympics. 629 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,960 So it's kind of being treated as a little bit of an off year, a 630 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,320 chance to like explore, you know, either new events, long 631 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,280 distant, longer distances or whatever. 632 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,719 I guess what are you most excited about learning about 633 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,040 yourself or exploring in in this off year of sorts? 634 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:30,920 I'll start with Shannon. I think just like everything 635 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,760 being new again, like it's just so fun. 636 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,560 And like the start line, like I wasn't very happy with my race 637 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,960 last week, but like looking at the start list, I was like this. 638 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,199 I've been in like braces with like a few good people, but the 639 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:49,440 whole star list being that good, it's just like so exciting and 640 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,480 it's like, Oh my God, I'm bracing these people and it's 641 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,960 just like so exciting that each race is kind of going to be like 642 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,600 that. And yeah, like no pressure, no 643 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,560 expectations, just see what we can do. 644 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,160 I think that's really cool to have like, because my, my 645 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440 freshman year of college was like my favorite year ever 646 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,680 because I had no idea what was going on. 647 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,080 Like rate of regions was like, OK, you need to try and come in 648 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,600 the top five. And I was like, why? 649 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,680 Like, and then like, it just, things just kept happening that 650 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,480 I would never have dreamed of. So hopefully we can channel that 651 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,240 and see what happens. I guess just side question 652 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,400 coming up, piggybacking off of that and I'll get Kimberly and 653 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480 Alex's most exciting thing for 2026. 654 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,680 But I mean, do you all share the same favorite race in a 655 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,720 Providence uniform? Like is it one of the like those 656 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,960 pen relays races or do you each have a different one? 657 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,320 That's like, Oh no, no, that's that's my favorite race. 658 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,800 NCAA cross. I was gonna say, surely we have 659 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,080 the same one. For sure we have too many bad 660 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,120 memories from pen to I don't know if the bad, the good 661 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,320 outweighs the bad at this point. Do relays. 662 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,000 Alex, what's your favorite race in a Providence uniform? 663 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,280 NCA cross. Yeah, definitely. 664 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,200 OK. I I did love Penn though, 665 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,800 because yeah, that was also fun. She didn't have so loud. 666 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Alex didn't have any of the bad. Experiences. 667 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,480 I would love the. Alex didn't get any. 668 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,040 Yeah. All right. 669 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,080 Alex, what are you looking forward to the most about 2026? 670 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,680 Yeah, similar to Shannon, what she said. 671 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,920 Just everything being new and just, I feel like it's important 672 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,680 to take take it all in, like where we, how far we've come and 673 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,600 where we are and just appreciate that rather than we fall into 674 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,080 the trappers athletes as always wanting more. 675 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,400 And I think we've just got to, like, enjoy where we are right 676 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,760 now and, and just keep doing what we're doing and, like, 677 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,320 breakthroughs will come for us. For me and Shannon, it's kind of 678 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,800 not really an off year. Oh, and Kim has commies as well. 679 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,280 That's true. And we have, yeah, Commonwealth 680 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,160 Games and also there's European champs. 681 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,600 So there are opportunities there. 682 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,240 It's gonna be tough, but, you know, we've got to keep them in 683 00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:57,080 mind. So. 684 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,240 Yeah. Kimberly, what about you? 685 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,480 Yeah, I have had a weird time. I've been injured, which it 686 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,920 hasn't. It's been my first injury. 687 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,520 So I've tried to be, I'm just trying to be very optimistic. 688 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,360 I'm not going to run indoors. But my main thing for this year, 689 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,800 my big thing is just I've learned so much about myself 690 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,280 through this injury. So I just appreciate I've got 691 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,880 this whole new appreciation for running and racing. 692 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:27,360 So I think going forward to 2026 for me is just, I just want to 693 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:32,240 enjoy it and love it and everything's just a bonus for me 694 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,840 this year I think. So I'm excited for that and 695 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200 hopefully just stay healthy. Awesome. 696 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,320 Well, Alex, Shannon, Kimberly, thanks so much for taking the 697 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,720 time to chat about this exciting new chapter that you guys are 698 00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:50,440 just starting and looking forward to all the collective 699 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,200 success of team New Balance Boston in 2026. 700 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,600 So yeah, Congrats again on on signing with New Balance. 701 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,960 Thank you so much. 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