1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,520 It is October 27th. I'm Chris Chavez. 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,760 I'm pretty much, yeah. And on today's show, the 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,239 greatest city in the world gets ready for the greatest day of 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,080 the year, the New York City Marathon. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,120 It's hilly, it's crowded, it's expensive. 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,680 And yet somehow everybody wants. And that's life in New York. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,680 And that's also all applies to the New York City Marathon. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,520 This year's race is stacked on the men's side. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,520 Defending champion Abdi Nagea is back. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,040 Lots of eyes will also be on 2 Legends, Elliott Kipchoge and 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,480 Kenenisa Bakayla. Kenenisa Bakayla both in the 12 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:49,440 twilight of their careers, still chasing one more good marathon 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,200 performance. Then we've also got a new wave 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,680 of American marathoners. BIA Sambasa, Joe Clecker, Hilary 15 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Bore ready to test themselves against the best in the world. 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,440 On the women's side, this just might be the best field that 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,000 they've ever assembled. Olympic champion Stefan Assad 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,920 headlines. It's funny how she gets the the 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,840 headline over past New York City Marathon winners Sharon 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,120 Locketti, Sheila Chef Carui, Helen O'berry. 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,240 Then we've also got Fiona O'Keefe returning for her first 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,040 marathon since her trial's victory. 23 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:25,120 Emily Siston is back in form. And then Molly Seidel is looking 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,320 to reclaim her magic on the roads before heading off to the 25 00:01:29,320 --> 00:01:32,360 trails. We'll get into it very soon 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,880 because New York doesn't do boring marathons, but a quick 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:41,080 reminder that the national TV coverage of the New York City 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,000 Marathon will be available on ESPN 2 starting at 8:00 AM. 29 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,880 We will be going live at the same exact time on the CDs Mag 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,400 YouTube channel, bringing you all of our commentary, analysis 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,520 and reactions live from the HOKA flagship store on 5th Ave. 32 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,360 So TuneIn, mute your TV's and watch with us. 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:05,440 It's going to be a blast. But before we get into our 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,560 marathon preview, I did want to touch on a couple quick topics. 35 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,240 We went from like literally having little news last week to 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,120 all of a sudden it's Monday and before noon there had already 37 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,280 been like 3 or 4 things posted to the city SMAG Instagram 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,440 account. And throughout the weekend 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,680 there's been buzz about more big stories along the way. 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,040 I want to start with one official announcement that came 41 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,280 this morning. The World Treadmill 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Championships are happening. The announcement came in Milan 43 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,240 in the with World Athletics president Seb Coe, Jimmy 44 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:50,760 Gressier was on hand and they also partnered with Techno Gym. 45 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:56,840 So it's one of the big treadmill brands that is out there. 46 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,160 And So what they finally announced, which was this was 47 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,800 rumored last November. And when it the news first kind 48 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,320 of like trickled out, it kind of felt like it was a joke. 49 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,840 Also because it came from like the Daily Mail that at the, you 50 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,800 know, about a year ago, it was reported that World Athletics 51 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,360 was considering the concept of a treadmill championships and they 52 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,880 were nearing A partnership with the technology partner to set 53 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,560 the groundwork for it. Well, that partner ends up being 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:27,520 techno. Gym. 55 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:34,320 And this is going to be a global indoor running competition. 56 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,440 They're calling it Run X starting in 2026. 57 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:43,280 When did X become like the cool letter that everything now 58 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,760 techie gets kind of thrown into? I still call it Twitter, but I 59 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,080 guess technically it's X but now this is the Run X. 60 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:58,400 The date is TBD. There will be a $100,000 prize 61 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,720 pool and also the winners of it will get a wild card entry to 62 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,080 the World Road Running Championships and some other, 63 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,520 you know, I guess World Athletic Series events. 64 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,200 There is no world record yet for the 5K on the treadmill that has 65 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,840 been recognized by World Athletics yet. 66 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,920 But you're probably wondering, how's this whole thing going to 67 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,079 work? It's open to recreational and 68 00:04:20,079 --> 00:04:25,320 pro runners worldwide. Worldwide runners will compete 69 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,840 in their local techno gym, equipped gym and then the times 70 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,040 are uploaded automatically. A real life global leaderboard 71 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,200 will display rankings. The top runners from each age 72 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,840 group will advance to the regional championship and then 73 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,640 to the world final. Top ten and top women will be 74 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:50,200 facing off Location TBD. But Preet, what was your sort of 75 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:53,040 initial reaction to this news coming out? 76 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,040 I know a lot of people are really skeptical about why on 77 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,760 earth this is happening. And, and my, my reaction is, 78 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,000 yes, as a track fan, I might think this is, this is 79 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,280 completely ridiculous. But actually I can also see what 80 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:12,320 they're trying to do with it, which is they want to tap into 81 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,280 the running. We know that there are 10s of 82 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:19,880 thousands, hundreds of thousands of runners around the world who 83 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,440 are signing up to all these big city marathons, half marathons, 84 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,560 park runs, whatever it is. But only a fraction of those are 85 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,160 actually watching elite track and field. 86 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:38,040 And I think the idea here is to maybe kind of tap into that 87 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:45,000 fitness, influence the market and kind of get people to engage 88 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,680 with elite level competition in this way. 89 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,280 Whether it works or not, who knows, But it feels like it's 90 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,880 something that we can give it a chance. 91 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,800 And if it brings a little bit more attention to the rest of 92 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,360 the sport, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing to give 93 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,840 it a try. Yes, I know for us who already 94 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:13,200 invested in track and field and we know how amazing the athletes 95 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,600 are and how much on the sort of a higher level they are like we 96 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,640 think this is this is patently ridiculous. 97 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,640 But I think actually I, I think we should give it a chance as, 98 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,360 as potentially again, one of those things that we're trying 99 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,680 to do to raise a profile of sport. 100 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,360 It's got potential right from like an entertainment product. 101 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,680 Like if you stream these world treadmill championships for one 102 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,640 hour and you make it look really cool, you have like a really 103 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,120 sick, you know, stage set up, there's lights and all this kind 104 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,000 of stuff. Like it could make for a fun 105 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,920 entertainment product. So I get what they might be 106 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,080 trying to do with that. It is very optimistic. 107 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,840 And like, I think one big running, marketing, track and 108 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,000 field jargon that gets thrown out there and I've, and I've 109 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,040 learned to kind of steer away from falling into this trap is 110 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,800 that everyone always wants to say that we got to connect, you 111 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,560 know, the backpack of the marathon folks with like the 112 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,480 people up in the front end. Everyone's been trying to do 113 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,680 that for so, so long. No one has been able to do it 114 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,840 successfully. And we just kind of at some 115 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,280 point have to come to terms. It's like it's, it's not going 116 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,320 to happen. You're not going to get, you're 117 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,760 not going to convert 50,000 fans who are participating in the in. 118 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,960 You're not going to convert 50,000 participants of the New 119 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,240 York City Marathon to be 50,000 new track fans just because of 120 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,480 one cool thing. You enhance that experience and 121 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,960 meet and and you keep them as as runners for life. 122 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,040 But the the whole theory of like, suddenly all these people 123 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,800 are going to become track fans. Like I don't necessarily buy 124 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,440 into it like pre I'm right with you, which is sort of like the 125 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,520 running is in a such a healthy place economically. 126 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:04,840 This past weekend I participated in the Diplo Run Club 5K in New 127 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,040 York City that. Looked very wild. 128 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,520 It looked wild, right? And there were 12,000 people 129 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,840 participating in that race. Well, First off, it wasn't even 130 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,200 a race. OK, let me clarify all these 131 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,560 things. There was a race. 132 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,680 There were bibs, there were timing mats. 133 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,600 But even as like I got there, it had more festival vibes than it 134 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,559 did a race vibe. So much so that there was a 135 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,559 course Marshall that was like walking around a guy in like 1 136 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,720 of the, you know, neon green vests. 137 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,320 And I was standing on this long, long line to check my bag. 138 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,080 And it showed up to the start with a, you know, with a tote 139 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,280 bag. And I didn't want to carry it. 140 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,280 So I figured I'd just put it in a truck and they said no. 141 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,840 The well one, I was running late so I was going to miss a start. 142 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,200 I was going to jog this thing with my friends and wasn't going 143 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,720 to take it seriously whatsoever. So I was like, all right, I 144 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,920 don't care if I missed the start, I'll just go and jog the 145 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,800 whole thing. But the per the the course 146 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,520 Marshall was like, the race is about to start in 5 minutes. 147 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,440 If you're standing here, there's a chance you will miss, you 148 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,080 know, the wave or whatever it is. 149 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,040 Then he corrected himself. He's like, actually, sorry, I 150 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,880 didn't mean race. The event will start in 5 151 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,560 minutes. And so even from, from the 152 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:30,080 inside, they're, they're not treating it like it's the 153 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,280 sporting event and race. Yet there's still 12,000 people. 154 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,160 So many of these people were first timers. 155 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,160 And eventually I just threw my bag. 156 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:44,000 We paid off an ice cream truck driver to watch our bags and 157 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,840 then went off to the start of the race. 158 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,680 Did I take it a little too seriously? 159 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:50,720 Yes I did. I ran 1859 while bobbing and 160 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,280 weaving through. So many people didn't run the 161 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,960 tangents on this whole entire thing, and I finished 25th 162 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,120 overall. 20th man in the race. Patting myself on the back 163 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:00,440 first. Nice. 164 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,480 First hard effort since my knee injury. 165 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,920 But what really I was blown away by was the experience. 166 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,800 So many people having fun afterwards. 167 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,600 The concert, Mark Ronson opening up. 168 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,560 Then it was Diplo and people were having an absolute blast 169 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:20,200 and I was just like standing there and I was like, this I, I 170 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,880 wish we could just like bottle up this energy and this, this 171 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,880 setting and bring it to to track. 172 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,120 But so many of the attempts at doing that have failed. 173 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,080 And I was like even trying to think I was like, how do we do 174 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,640 it? Like, is the meet right after 175 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,480 this like it goes race, concert meet is like, I just couldn't 176 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,760 like figure out what the perfect equation of all of it would be. 177 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,720 Because then I was like, if there's a meet that happens 178 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,360 right after this concert, like no one will go. 179 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,960 Like you're hoping that if 12,000 people, maybe you attract 180 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,360 5% of them. That's still like not enough to 181 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,040 really fill the environment. So I was just left here. 182 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,200 I'm like, I'm OK with just sort of realizing that running is in 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,160 a really healthy place. Track is doing what it can to 184 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,880 increase its popularity. And they've been so many 185 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,680 attempts at doing this that have ended up being futile and others 186 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,440 that have done better. But I see something like this 187 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,400 and I'm like, OK, it's interesting. 188 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,480 I'll probably still watch it. I'm a track junkie. 189 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,320 Well, like Jimmy Gressier was at the press conference. 190 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,560 Does this mean he's going to do it? 191 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Would I love to see Jacob Bingabritsen doing it? 192 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,320 Absolutely. Dude's a treadmill guy. 193 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,600 So yeah, I mean, I'm intrigued. But it's like when you go to an 194 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,960 arcade and like you participate in one of those in in a game and 195 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,280 then you see the leaderboard and there's all these names like 196 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,000 you're, you don't really pay attention to where you fall in 197 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,880 the leaderboard because you know that you're just a normal 198 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,120 average person. Like you're not necessarily 199 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:59,360 going to be in that top 1%. And so I just don't know if this 200 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,320 is going to sway. Then I started getting into 201 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,320 technical questions when I saw this press release. 202 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,320 It's like, well, how many techno gym treadmills are in Africa 203 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,920 right now? And like there's this whole 204 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,480 application, I guess online for gyms to equipment apply to equip 205 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,320 themselves with the technology as like we're a Wahoo podcast. 206 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,680 Like what does this mean for Wahoo athlete Cole Hawker and 207 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,680 his ability to participate in something like this? 208 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,240 Treadmills are also just kind of like finicky where like you can 209 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,560 tinker with them and like there's so many other variables 210 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:39,320 that could go wrong. I, I joked on when I wrote my 211 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,400 article and then I teased it out on social media. 212 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,160 I said, like, I can't believe we got a world treadmill 213 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,640 championships before we got ADMR at the World Championships. 214 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:54,360 That's what we actually want. So that is the World Treadmill 215 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Championships. We'll keep you tuned to any 216 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,720 further developments that come from that. 217 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,200 Then we also had over the weekend just some buzz coming 218 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,640 out of the NCAA cross country scene, which is kind of nuts 219 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,760 because it's been less than a week since Isaac Wood and I 220 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,040 recorded a podcast kind of breaking down like who were the 221 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,640 top schools and like first impressions from these early big 222 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,400 meets like Prenatz and Nutty Comb. 223 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,240 And he had a lot of good things to say about Iowa State's 224 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,480 potential. And then all of a sudden there's 225 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,200 this report that comes out from, I believe is the Stride report, 226 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:34,360 shared that several members of the Iowa State men's cross 227 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:39,680 country team were suspended for violating team rules. 228 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:45,520 No further information was really shared and that these 229 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,840 athletes would be out for the rest of the season. 230 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,120 We don't know who the athletes are. 231 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,520 We don't know what they did. We don't know if they'll they're 232 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800 still on the team or they're getting kicked off. 233 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,800 All we know is that they will be racing this weekend. 234 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,600 The IO State Cyclones will be racing this weekend at the Big 235 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:08,840 12 championships. And you if you go online, you 236 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,360 end up on the message boards or on Twitter. 237 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Even on TikTok, there's speculation about this 238 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:22,000 potentially having ties to something like doping. 239 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Not necessarily. There hasn't been any report of 240 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,800 a positive test. No athletes have been really 241 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,280 named or implicated in the whole entire thing. 242 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,280 But just would be. Really unfortunate to see. 243 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:38,040 Again, I think that this should push for more anti doping in the 244 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,440 NCAA system. I know that's been kind of 245 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,400 flawed over time in the sense of like there just isn't enough 246 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,800 testing and an investment into that, but it's a developing 247 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,880 story and it impacts the number one team in the country. 248 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,720 So something is up. We're probably going to learn 249 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,920 more as it comes along, but man, it doesn't sound sound great 250 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,120 right now. And you know, Big Twelves is 251 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,360 supposed to be like the biggest cross country conference 252 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,680 championship taking place this weekend when you look at the 253 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,360 whole lineup of of schools that will be there. 254 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,920 So if they do end up missing some of their top stars, we'll 255 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,520 just see how much it impacts them. 256 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,440 They held out some of their athletes from the nutty come 257 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,320 Invitational and they still ended up being ranked #1 258 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,920 receiving all of the 1st place votes. 259 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:35,960 So Iowa State was definitely regarded as like the top program 260 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,080 so far this season. You know by, you know the. 261 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,800 Fellow coaches and stuff, we'll just have to see just kind of 262 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,560 how all of this. Impacts things in the weeks to 263 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,520 come. Then next story kind of wanted 264 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:54,680 to quickly touch on is that Yaka Bingebritsen got his tonsils 265 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:01,800 removed and then also did an interview with I believe it was 266 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,720 VG, the Norwegian media outlet that says he wants 3 world 267 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,960 records in 2026. That would be the 1500, the Mile 268 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,280 and the 5K. I even though we put up a quote 269 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,160 graphic, it's just kind of like that time of year. 270 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,920 You want to get some offseason buzz going and it's just Jakob 271 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,800 saying things like you could remove Jakob's name from that 272 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:31,560 headline and put in Cole Hawker and I'm sure he would say the 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,440 same exact thing. I want three world records next 274 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,160 year. It's not a total shock, but it 275 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,280 just kind of goes to show he's putting his head down and 276 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,040 getting right back to to work, which is good to see because the 277 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,600 next big thing would hopefully be that he participates in 278 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,120 Eurocross, right? Yeah, normally he's he's a 279 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,280 regular Eurocross. I wonder whether it might come a 280 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,360 little too soon for him. But we know that Jakob, whatever 281 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,560 he does, he doesn't shy away from competition. 282 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,720 And so if he's even vaguely fit, I am sure he will show up to 283 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,960 that and and hopefully then World cross and while indoors. 284 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,800 But yeah, we'll have to see how how things pan out for him. 285 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,800 And it might just be that Europe Cross comes a little bit too 286 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:17,680 soon in in in December. The Sidious Mac Podcast is 287 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,760 presented by Gnomeo. You know that feeling when your 288 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,000 legs just click? When the training's feeling 289 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,720 smoother, recovery comes faster and race day hits just right? 290 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,880 That's what Gnomeo's built for. 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Listeners can get 15% off using 341 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,720 promo code CITIUS 15 at checkout. 342 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:16,120 That's Citi US15 at the feed. If you hit the link in the show 343 00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:18,560 notes, you'll go directly to the landing page with all of the 344 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,080 details about. Gnomeo and so much more Gnomeo 345 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:28,280 prepare to outperform. So of those three world records, 346 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,880 which would you put as most likely to least likely? 347 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,480 I think it's most likely to be 5K. 348 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Then it goes mile 15. I would agree with that. 349 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,240 I mean obviously his PR in the 5K is nowhere near as close to 350 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:53,240 the world record as. 12:48. As his PRS in the in the in the 351 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,080 mile or the 15, but we know given the way he ran that 3K 352 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,280 world record that I think, you know, he just hasn't run it all 353 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,600 out 5K. He was planning to obviously do 354 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,720 all of that this year. He had his attempts planned out, 355 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,360 I think in Celestia and I think he was trying to do something in 356 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,560 Oslo and, and some somewhere else as well. 357 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,600 But he he's kind of highlighted again this year, wasn't he, that 358 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,520 he wants to try those meats where there are good conditions 359 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:28,200 for records, Paris, Celestia, Monaco and Oslo and, and try and 360 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,160 see what he can he can put down. And yeah, I mean, it's great to 361 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,120 see him talking with that level of confidence again, because 362 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:37,840 he's, he's someone who's pretty honest about his shape, right? 363 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:42,440 He's as in he, he never, you know, he was pretty honest going 364 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,760 into world champs that it wasn't perfect. 365 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,440 And afterwards he was pretty honest as well. 366 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:54,360 And I, I think assuming he can keep himself healthy, I, I don't 367 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:58,800 doubt he can get back there. Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised 368 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,960 because he said he that he and his wife, we were already 369 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,360 discussing potential meets to go after these. 370 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:09,320 So like you kind of mentioned Monaco, Paris, Alessia, Oslo. 371 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,080 They're in contention 'cause he's run really well at them in 372 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,480 the past. Dude BU. 373 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,440 Go to BU, you can knock out the mile and the 1500. 374 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,680 Yeah, you can knock all of them out there, so. 375 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,880 All right, that's your almost like biweekly or monthly 376 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,920 Yakabingabritsen update on the pod. 377 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,920 We haven't had his his documentary supposed to release 378 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,840 and it's released in Norway. Great. 379 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,600 We we can't see it yet, which is really irritating me because 380 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,800 last year it released at the same time globally. 381 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,360 And yeah. Yeah. 382 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:54,520 So I think this news came out or the trailer came out maybe after 383 00:22:54,520 --> 00:23:00,440 we recorded two weeks ago that season 2 of Inga Britson Born to 384 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,720 run is dropping on Amazon Prime and it is out now on Amazon 385 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,720 Prime Norway, which you can watch with the if you, you know, 386 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,640 have like we use Nord VPN and you change your location to 387 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,520 Norway, you could probably see it, but no subtitles right in 388 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,040 English yet. I'd I'd to be fair, I couldn't 389 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,840 like Amazon Prime was even detecting my VPN so it wouldn't 390 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,880 let me watch it, which I frustratingly I couldn't even 391 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,520 couldn't even do that so. We might be out of luck for a 392 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,920 little bit. So our recording of Keeping Up 393 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,440 with the Inga Britsons, our podcast recapping the what we've 394 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,800 learned and watch from the Inga Britsons show will resume when 395 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,680 we're able to watch it because I know people seem to have enjoyed 396 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,200 when we did the two batch of podcast recaps last time. 397 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:57,520 So all right, one more story is the Valencia half marathon took 398 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,800 place this past weekend. It did not yield any world 399 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,240 records, but the most important, but I would say it most 400 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,720 impressive performance of the week of the weekend was not Yomi 401 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,000 Kajalcha winning for the third time in 58 O 2. 402 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,120 It was not Agnes and Get It running one hour 3 minutes and 8 403 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,480 seconds for the third fastest women's half marathon run. 404 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,920 It was Andreas Almgren running 5841 to shatter the European 405 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,400 half marathon record. The previous record before that 406 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:38,040 was Julian Wanders is 5913. Almgren was fourth overall, 407 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,280 first European man to break 59 minutes, and now owns the 408 00:24:42,360 --> 00:24:45,800 European record in the 5K on the track, the 10K on the roads and 409 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:51,080 now the half marathon. I feel like we're going to try 410 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,800 and get Andreas Olmgren on the podcast in a bit. 411 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,640 He's a very, very big proponent of Gnomeo. 412 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,920 He's like, you know, it's a Swedish company. 413 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,760 He's Sweden's top distance runner. 414 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,560 And I get, I know he's been using and testing it for a long 415 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,080 time. So I think we've got an end to 416 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,360 try and get him on the pod that way. 417 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:17,240 But in general, I feel like, yes, we have to wait a little 418 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,280 bit longer for Yaka Binga Brits and to give the half marathon 419 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,480 and the marathon a full go. That's when I'm sure lots of 420 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,440 people will be super excited. But I think that there's enough 421 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,840 reason right now to get excited over Andreas Omgrin and what his 422 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,160 potential could be that I feel like there isn't just enough 423 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,360 fanfare over it. He's got the medal from the 424 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:46,200 World Championships on the track in the 10K and the same way that 425 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,240 this is maybe pre, you must be mind blown right now. 426 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,280 You're like, wow, Chris is thinking like a like a European 427 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,320 for once. But it's like the same way we 428 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,960 prop up like Grant Fisher last year for his prowess and and 429 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,760 success in the 10K. And then we think about just 430 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,040 like how good Connor Manse is in the half marathon and we see 431 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,760 what he just ran in the marathon. 432 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:15,640 I feel like if you're a European athletics fan, you're just like, 433 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,360 all right, Almgren's our guy. He's our response to to all of 434 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:24,080 that, to hopefully end up, you know, contending for major 435 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,920 marathon titles sometime. Yeah, I mean, he's the now the 436 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,160 29th fastest half marathoner in history. 437 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:37,040 And everyone who's kind of we've heard from after Valencia has 438 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,440 said it was a tough second-half of the the race because it was a 439 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,040 bit windy in the in the second-half and they all ran a 440 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,840 bit slower than they wanted to. So in that context, that's a 441 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,920 mighty impressive performance. And yeah, I mean, he's he's had 442 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,320 a year, He's had a really, really good year. 443 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,960 And he's one of those athletes, I think who I mean, he also 444 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,760 trains with the AKAB on occasion, I believe. 445 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,080 But he's one of those athletes that that set out to, you know, 446 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,320 he's, you know, he's he's America. 447 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,120 He's he's Sweden's answer to Conor Mance. 448 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:10,640 He said he was going to break this record. 449 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,440 He went and did it. And I think he, you know, he's 450 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,520 he's done that a couple of times this year and he just keeps on 451 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,640 going. And yeah, very impressive from 452 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,880 him. Yeah, so I'm going to reach out 453 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,200 soon and hopefully see if we can get him on the pod because it's 454 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,200 been 1 heck of a year for him for sure. 455 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,600 And then Valencia Marathon will be coming up in what is it like 456 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,720 6 or seven weeks from now. Yeah. 457 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,200 Absolutely. And there's a bunch of people 458 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,880 who were there in the half marathon who'll be running it 459 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,760 back for the for the full, but including me, actually, yeah. 460 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Who I think you're potentially going to see if I'm. 461 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,200 Going to try and reach out and see if we can get him on the pod 462 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,920 too. Maybe that will be a post 463 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,080 Valencia marathon. Hoping everything goes well. 464 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Because I mean, from Instagram it didn't seem like he was all 465 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,640 that thrilled with his performance in the half. 466 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,080 But I got, for me, I'm like got to remember like he's only been 467 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,080 fully committed to Rd. racing less than a year at this point. 468 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,480 Yeah, exactly. He's he's such a big talent. 469 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,880 I mean, he'll be disappointed to have been third Brit on the day, 470 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,800 to be fair. But you know, he he he's 471 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,120 definitely someone who's who's got ambition and you know, 472 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,040 that's the mindset of a, of a champion. 473 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,960 So it's really great to see him doing all these things. 474 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,160 All right. Did you also see Yarmouth 475 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Kajalche's bit of shade that he threw at Jacob Kaplibo saying? 476 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,480 And I think that the interesting part about all this, where he 477 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,800 was like, yeah, I'd run 6056 as well if I had a car pacing me 478 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,600 the whole entire way, which like, isn't there like, So I saw 479 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,120 the press release last week. There were two press releases 480 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,520 that went out for World Athletics of like, world records 481 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,080 getting ratified. And it's always interesting to 482 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,760 see, like, how long the process takes for certain records versus 483 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,120 others. And Yomi Kajelchi's half 484 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,720 marathon world record was was ratified. 485 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,600 But since that performance which has been ratified, Keplimo ran 486 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,960 his half marathon world record earlier this year and that 487 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,200 hasn't been ratified yet. And I wonder, is it because of 488 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,440 the drafting of the cars that, like Cajelcha, is like hinting 489 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,400 at here? Yeah, no, that's absolutely what 490 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,800 it is. So it's not it wasn't even it 491 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,360 wasn't even hidden. But yeah, I and I guess he's you 492 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,640 know, if he's still the the half marathon world record holder 493 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,360 until that that record gets ratified. 494 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,720 So. Yeah, you wonder, right, like if 495 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,160 if your bonus as an athlete in your contract doesn't pay out 496 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,440 until it is ratified by World Athletics, I'm sure that's kind 497 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,000 of like the the standard. So like Nike's probably like got 498 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:11,040 a check for well, for Federico Rosa and for Jacob Kabulimo for 499 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,000 the half marathon world record that they can't pay out just 500 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,360 quite yet until we'll. It's it's ratified. 501 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Yeah, absolutely. But and and obviously Yammer 502 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,360 Kajalcha moving to the roads now fully. 503 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,480 So we'll see him try and probably change Challenge 504 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760 Kaplimo head to head in the in. The and the, the thing with both 505 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,880 Kajalcha and Ingetic is that, I mean, they were really strong 506 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,960 runs, but it was just said it got really windy down the final 507 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,160 stretch and that's sort of like where their races fell apart 508 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,640 like and Kedich went out in something ridiculous for the 1st 509 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,240 10K it was 2928 or. Something like that. 510 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:51,360 Right. Yeah, exactly. 511 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,360 That was one second slower than her 10K road world record, which 512 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,800 is insane to think. Yeah, and I think she snagged 513 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,280 whatever. Well, actually there still is no 514 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,720 10K world championship qualifying mark for 2027 just 515 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,000 quite yet, but I'm sure she ran well under it. 516 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,000 So, yeah. And Getich is kind of giving 517 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,440 that Latissenbet G Day world record as a bit of a scare, 518 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,960 which is one that I, I looked at and I was like, that one's going 519 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,040 to stand for a little bit and maybe not, not as much. 520 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,000 And Speaking of G Day, like we just have not seen her in two 521 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,960 years, I think at this point. Talk about a talent that just 522 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,360 like vanished off the map. She got married, had her first 523 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,280 kid, but there hasn't been any sort of sign at all that like. 524 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,760 I think there was a photo of her running that was posted a few 525 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,520 months ago, but that's all we've had. 526 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,560 So I really do hope she comes back, because yeah, she is. 527 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600 Her form was always. Her form was, yeah, it's the 528 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,760 crazy, it's the, it's the most beautiful running form you'll 529 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,040 ever see. And yeah, she was someone who I 530 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,760 think if anyone is going to, if we don't, if we if we don't have 531 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120 any other way of getting rid of that Ruth Chapman get it's world 532 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320 record. I think G Day is probably the 533 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640 only possible way of going getting there. 534 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,400 You're telling me she would try and run a marathon? 535 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,160 Well I mean like she already has run a marathon but it was like 536 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,040 not it was like 2-6. It was like at the time it was 537 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,600 the second fastest debut in history. 538 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,760 She just and she went out too hard and nearly and died 539 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,800 horribly in the last mile. But otherwise it was you know, 540 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,120 and and she ran really well in in New York. 541 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,840 Was it she ran as well. Yeah, obviously got out kicked, 542 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,040 but. Preed, I think Chef and 543 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,800 Gaddich's mark is going to stand for a little bit longer until 544 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800 the AIU concludes this investigation. 545 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,720 All right, let's move into New York City Marathon preview. 546 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,080 Let's start with the women's side because their race starts 547 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,800 first. 8:35 AM Eastern Time is when the elite women will start. 548 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:07,400 Like we said, Sifan Hassan is the fastest woman in the field, 549 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,560 the Olympic champion coming off of her victory at the Sydney 550 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:17,160 Marathon. And I mean, I kind of would view 551 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,600 her as the favorite, right? Because like the last time, 552 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,720 she's gone up against Sharon Loquetti and Helen O'berry. 553 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,800 At the Paris Olympics, she came out on top. 554 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:33,320 It's just a matter of like, is she tired from Sydney? 555 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,320 And you know, to this, it sounds like it feels like that's an 556 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,120 eternity in amount of time between races for someone like 557 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,240 her. So I've used Stefan Asan as 558 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,960 well. One, it's so awesome that she 559 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:52,600 has chosen to do do this. She's checking off the majors 560 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,120 pretty quickly at this point. She's run London, Chicago, 561 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,040 Tokyo, Sydney, New York. That's five, so she's got to go 562 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960 to. Boston and Berlin. 563 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,960 Boston and Berlin in 2026. Yeah, yeah, she could take them 564 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,600 all off next year and and obviously she's won out of the 565 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,639 fight, you know, out of the one she's run, she's won. 566 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,760 She's won three out of four that she's run so. 567 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,000 Or 4 Right, because she's won Chicago. 568 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:23,760 Tokyo. Oh no. 569 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,040 She. Didn't win on Yeah, she didn't. 570 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,280 She didn't win. She didn't win Tokyo, but yeah, 571 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,560 and she could win a fourth with with New York. 572 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,520 So well, he and, and the thing about, and I brought this up to 573 00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,520 Stephane herself when I, when I got her on the podcast last year 574 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,120 was just that I remember how much of a big deal it was when 575 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,320 Kipchogi proclaimed that he was going to try and win all six 576 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,800 World Marathon Majors. And when he had his disaster in 577 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,480 Boston, he kind of just like let that goal go off to the side 578 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,720 because it he was exposed as like not great on a hilly 579 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,280 course. That's not the case with Stefan 580 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,800 Hassan because as we saw in Paris, like. 581 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,880 So I think that that fully allows me to, you know, give 582 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,360 some further hope to that she could win this race. 583 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:19,760 Now, the key thing is the elite women's race at the New York 584 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,800 City Marathon the last couple years has been very slow in the 585 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,040 sense of like, they didn't leave it till very late to go. 586 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,640 There's explicit like direction from Dathan Ritzenheim to Helen 587 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,440 O'berry to don't be the one to to lead the race. 588 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040 Like you don't want to be going up First Ave. as a leader. 589 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,800 Let allow someone else to do the work, Sharon. 590 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,720 Same exact way. Like I've got great foot speed, 591 00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,760 why should I be the one to make the first big move? 592 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,320 And so the problem with that strategy is if you leave it till 593 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:02,400 a kicker's race, then you're going to go up against Saifan 594 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,160 Hassan at the end of it. You know, with leave it till 5K 595 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,960 to go, you think you're going to outrun Stefan Assan. 596 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,280 We've seen a really strong close from both Helen O'bear and 597 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,760 Sharon Loquetti in the past in the in that sense, but it's 598 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,680 Stefan Assan. 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Lollipop, the runner Soda. 636 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,240 Yeah, I mean, I, I think here it, it, it is interesting 637 00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,440 because she also ran pretty quick. 638 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,600 She ran faster in Sydney, which is also a really hilly course 639 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:10,880 2/18/22 Then she ran in in London where she ran 219 earlier 640 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,560 in the year. So it feels to me like she's 641 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,040 coming into form. I mean, she did. 642 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,400 And she also knows she got her tactics slightly wrong in 643 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,760 Sydney. I mean, she was so far ahead 644 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,520 that it didn't really matter. She was dying at the end of that 645 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,840 Sydney race. But, you know, I think Saifan 646 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840 Assan is an athlete that's very intelligent. 647 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,560 She learns from every race. She said she was undercooked 648 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:36,120 before London. And I think she it looks like 649 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:41,160 she is now fully ready to go. Yeah, we obviously don't have 650 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,320 that many data points, but I yeah, you always, you can never 651 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,520 doubt Saifan Assan. I think that's what we've 652 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,320 learned over the years. And that's, I guess, like the 653 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,640 thing with so many people in this field is that. 654 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,120 They just don't race all that often between these marathons. 655 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,400 You're paid a lot of money, is part of your appearance fee to 656 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,520 show up in great form, and so you're just going to hunker down 657 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,680 in training. And so we don't have. 658 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,320 As many key points around these athletes. 659 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:16,320 So is there anyone beyond that Hassan Loketi, Chef Kuruya Oberi 660 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,160 group that you could see winning or is there just a big drop? 661 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,560 I think your odds drop off big time. 662 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,560 Yeah, I mean, I think the only other person who's kind of up 663 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,640 there is Gothicen Gabriel Selassie, who obviously is the 664 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,160 2022 world champion, 2021 Berlin winner. 665 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,840 But I think this year her results haven't been quite so 666 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,200 good. She ended up 7th in Tokyo. 667 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,200 So I'm not kind of, Yeah, I'm not, I'm not kind of saying 668 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,480 yeah. We don't really know what kind 669 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,520 of shape she she's in because she hasn't raced since June. 670 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,840 Yeah, when you said Tokyo, I thought you meant the world 671 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,280 championship marathon, but no, no, she. 672 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,120 Didn't race. No, no. 673 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,360 This was Tokyo in February. Yeah. 674 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:05,760 Yeah, she was third at the NYC half back in or the mini 10K 675 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,480 back in in June, where she lost to Helen O'berry and Wayne 676 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,320 Kolati. Sharon Lochetti was fifth in 677 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,200 that race. That's the last time I think of 678 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,440 a good chunk of this field like raced against one another. 679 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,600 But you know, that's 1/4 of the distance that they're going to 680 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,920 be racing on Sunday. So we will probably have to stay 681 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,360 tuned on that grouping to see. But then again, it's just to get 682 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,360 lied to to your face at the pre race press conference on what 683 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,040 form they're in and like what their expectations are for the 684 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:45,840 race. Because the thing about Helen 685 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,680 and Sharon is that Boston was a strong performance where they, 686 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:58,080 you know, PB Ed and ran 217 low. But it like that's still 687 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,760 apparently they've been training to run so much faster than that. 688 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,120 They haven't had the chance to showcase that. 689 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,480 And New York's not a fast course. 690 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,000 So even though you can talk a big talk and be like, you know 691 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,800 what, I'm going to try and run 217, New York's not the place 692 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,080 for that. The course record is what, 693 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:23,480 220-2221? And it stood for a long time, I 694 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,320 think. I feel like Eric right now 695 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,360 asking a question and then Preet has to click around and and. 696 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,520 Do the the search. Well, while I looked that up, 697 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,920 the, the one other person I was going to mention is Vivian 698 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,120 Cheriot, who came third last year, 5th at London Marathon 699 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000 this year as well in a, in a quicker race. 700 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,720 And she's obviously someone, we know how talented she is and 701 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,480 she's been showing decent form over the last year or so. 702 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,000 So look, I mean, I, I'm still not sure she'd be in contention 703 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640 for the win, but she was someone who actually kind of made that, 704 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,600 that race last year in New York. She, she she ran really well. 705 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:05,400 And yeah, I, I wouldn't want to, I would would say like, you 706 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,040 know, she, she's someone who could be a threat given the 707 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,920 nature of that New York race. And then there were a couple 708 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,520 scratches. Edna Kiplagat out, Eilish 709 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:20,040 Mccolgan out. So those are, you know, some 710 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,400 more higher profile international names that were 711 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,760 slated to run up until this past week. 712 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,960 But let's touch on the Americans. 713 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:37,200 Well, the course record before we move on is 2/22/31 from 2003. 714 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,400 Wow, she tells you. That's older than like. 715 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,520 The the Joffrey Mutai course record on the men's side which 716 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,160 was broken like 2 years ago or something like that. 717 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,280 Yeah, Tamara Oktola broke that with two O 458 in 2023. 718 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,520 Yeah, and that one had stood for for a long time. 719 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,800 So the women's, the women's record is free super shoes and 720 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,760 and everything. But then we know Boston this 721 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,880 year, obviously that Helena Berry, Sharon Laketti 722 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,720 combination did run a 217 in Boston, which is, yeah, 723 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,520 obviously pretty unusual. And I think but that that was 724 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,480 partly because of Armani Bariso, who kind of was was there to 725 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,360 help take that pace out, I think. 726 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,360 So I don't know if we've got anyone that's going to do that 727 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,880 this time around. And that that's what I guess 728 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,840 will be interesting to see. Yeah. 729 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:34,440 Did they run faster than because Rita Jeptu ran? 730 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,120 What did she run in 2014? It was. 731 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,160 Holding it up right now. That was an insane performance, 732 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:50,360 I just remember that. Well, I mean, the 217 in Boston 733 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,880 was the course record. Oh, OK. 734 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:57,520 So yeah, but I just remember 2/18/57 was what Rita Jeptu ran 735 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:03,360 in 2014, which at the time was like holy crap. 736 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,200 Like and then she. Later got popped for EBO. 737 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,960 OK, we're going back to the Americans now. 738 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,880 Emily Sisson, first marathon since the Paris Olympics. 739 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,160 The American record holder back in action had a pretty good tune 740 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:31,280 up race the other week in Boston where she ran 3142 for 3rd place 741 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,000 overall in the BAA 10K lost to Sharon Liquetti and Gladys 742 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,480 Kremboka from from Kenya but she was the top American there. 743 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:47,640 Even before that she ran the Manchester Great Manchester Run 744 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:58,080 and was second in 31 O3, only behind Medina ESA and in that 745 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,840 race she beat Gaudi, Tom Gervaslassi and Helen O'berry. 746 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:08,320 So the thing about Emily Sisson is that she's trying to dispel 747 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,720 this belief that's out there that she can't handle a hilly 748 00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:18,960 course because she's very much a rhythm runner in the way that 749 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,400 you watch her run and. How she's executed these races 750 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,840 in Chicago, she just locks in on the pace, holds it all the way 751 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,800 to the finish line and and runs really fast to fortunate. 752 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:35,040 Fortunately for her, like that was the case at the US Olympic 753 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,160 Trials in Orlando. It was not like a super hilly 754 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:43,920 course, but in Paris it was. And she didn't run her best. 755 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,240 She finished 22nd overall in 2/29/53, and that took a toll on 756 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,720 her. So the reason why there's been 757 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,480 such a long gap between Paris and now is because she needed a 758 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,640 reset. And like, I'm glad that she was 759 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,880 open about just like how taxing that was for her and so. 760 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,760 You know, at this point in her career at 34. 761 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,120 Like, I still see her as potentially #1 or #2 talent in 762 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:17,280 the marathon because of her overall consistency. 763 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,080 And I'd like to see her kind of back that up and reassert 764 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:25,680 herself in in that spot Because they've been so many American 765 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,240 women who have come up in recent years. 766 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,880 But the one who's stayed kind of close to the top at all times 767 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,280 has been Emily Sisson. And so I think this will be a 768 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,680 good opportunity for her to, you know, lock in there again. 769 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,120 And this is her New York debut, isn't it? 770 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,520 I don't think she's ever run New York. 771 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,600 New York City Marathon debut, but she's obviously run like a 772 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:53,000 ton of, you know, 5th Ave. Mile mini 10K races and so NYC 773 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:59,960 half like she's very familiar with this city and I think that 774 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:03,840 she'll feel the love on the course come Sunday. 775 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,600 Yeah. And I think for people who are 776 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,000 wondering why she didn't, you know, given we know that Haley 777 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,480 courses aren't her thing, why she didn't choose Chicago over 778 00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,760 this. But I think in Chicago she's 779 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,160 kind of done all she's going to do, right? 780 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,240 I don't think she's going to. She was going to run, you know, 781 00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:25,000 get a placing higher than second and or run faster than you know, 782 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,480 if she's not feeling like she's ready to, to beat her own 783 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,680 American record. Like what is the value of going 784 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,920 to Chicago whilst going to New York? 785 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,360 It's a different course. It's a different experience. 786 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,560 Maybe a better appearance for you. 787 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,640 Who knows, right. But I, I, it does feel like, 788 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,200 and, and maybe there's also a little bit less pressure because 789 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,960 in Chicago it's all about the time really. 790 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,160 And here it's a little bit of a different experience. 791 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,240 So I think in spite of the fact that it's a hilly course and 792 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:57,360 maybe not necessarily her thing, I think it's where I think 793 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,600 there's an opportunity for her to do something new and 794 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,720 something interesting. New Balance race New Balance 795 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,520 athlete that makes sense. I'm I'm going to be curious to 796 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:18,520 see if she chooses to race in the fuel cell SC Elite V5, which 797 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,400 is the shoe I ran my half marathon PBN. 798 00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:29,560 But also this is she has opted in the past not to go for the SC 799 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,720 Elite and in recent races she has been wearing it. 800 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:37,040 So there was just something to maybe the stack height or 801 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,720 something like that in the previous editions that she opted 802 00:49:39,720 --> 00:49:41,920 to go for. I believe it was the pacer. 803 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:47,400 I think she's going SC Elite this time around, which would be 804 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:53,720 pretty, pretty cool to see you go full in on New Balance's best 805 00:49:53,720 --> 00:49:56,120 tech when you're taking on the best in the world. 806 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,640 So all right, then after that, the next compelling storyline on 807 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,960 the professional women's side would be the return of Fiona 808 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:09,400 O'Keefe, another person who has not run an A marathon in a long 809 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,200 time. That's the overarching storyline 810 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,240 among some of the key Americans here is Fiona O'Keefe hasn't 811 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:22,760 completed a marathon since the US Olympic Trials, which was her 812 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,760 debut, and I'm pulling up her profile. 813 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:33,520 She competed at the Paris Olympics, but competed as kind 814 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:38,080 of a stretch to say, 'cause she, I don't even think made it to 5K 815 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:44,080 before dropping out. And, you know, she was injured, 816 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,560 didn't discover the severity of it until afterwards. 817 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,960 And then there was this whole, you know, outcry, I think, from 818 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,600 a lot of people in the public about, you know, she should have 819 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,880 given her spot to Jess McClain. But she earned her spot by 820 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,400 winning the trials in in two hours, 22 minutes and 10 821 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,920 seconds, which is a really, really strong debut. 822 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,080 If she's able to find any of that form, then I think it would 823 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,520 be really exciting for her in her first ever world Marathon 824 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,760 major. Some of her recent results 825 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,720 include running 6835 at the Copenhagen half could have been, 826 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,840 you know, just a tune up because she ran faster back in March at 827 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,640 the NYC half where she finished second in 6746. 828 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:35,120 She also ran the reached a beacon 10K and finished third 829 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,760 overall in 3136. She was the top American there. 830 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,440 So let's see. I, I, I think like a, the story 831 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,160 there, get one on the board, like it's been a while since 832 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:53,080 your, your first marathon. And I think if you're able to 833 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,680 finish top three American, that'd be that'd be a really 834 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,520 good day for her. Yeah, And I suppose what's 835 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,480 interesting there is she in in Copenhagen, she beat all the 836 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,960 Americans again. She beat Natasha Rogers, who had 837 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,040 a really good day a few weeks ago in in Chicago, was the top 838 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,040 American there. She beat Kira d'amato. 839 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,280 And I think back in March, she beat pretty much the entirety 840 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:24,000 of, you know, USS Top hot top marathoners in she beat, you 841 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,680 know, there's Emma Bates, Emily Citizens, Susanna Sullivan, 842 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,960 Sarah Hall, Decatur Pope, and she beat all of them in that 843 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,920 race to come second to Sharon Laketti in in New York in March. 844 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:39,120 So I think we we shouldn't doubt that she is a huge talent at the 845 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,680 marathon. And she wasn't just a one off 846 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,200 kind of one hit wonder. I, you know, I hope that she's, 847 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,080 you know, in that sort of shape to, to show us what she can do 848 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,240 here because she could be a real threat given we know she's good 849 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:53,200 at a championship start marathon as well. 850 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,520 The third American who is a headlining name, Molly Seidel, 851 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,960 the Olympic bronze medalist from the Tokyo Olympics who has run 852 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:12,200 223 O 7, still holds like the fastest American woman 853 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,800 performance on the New York City Marathon course. 854 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,440 I believe that PR of hers of 223 is from the 2023 Chicago 855 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:28,560 Marathon and she scratched from the 2024 US Olympic Trials due 856 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,600 to injury and has not raised a marathon since Chicago 2023. 857 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,840 Went on the Alley on the Run podcast last week and said that 858 00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,120 she is going to be moving to the trail and ultra scene. 859 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:49,760 So I don't necessarily expect her to light this thing up and 860 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,760 be in full contention among the front end of the pack like you 861 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,320 would think for an Olympic bronze medalist. 862 00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:03,080 I'd probably see her taking it a bit more conservative. 863 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,760 And I don't know, I'm trying to think of what is a successful 864 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,720 showing for Molly Seidel and I'm trying to think of like, is it 865 00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:18,280 like 2:27, 2/28 and like being healthy and happy at the finish 866 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,560 line? I mean, she said exactly that on 867 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,360 the other podcast. She said like her aim was 868 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,480 actually more realistically to just break 2:30. 869 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:30,240 And she, you know, she she she's, you know, she's had a 870 00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,400 decent build. I think she said, look, she's, 871 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,680 she's feeling good. She's had a decent build. 872 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,120 She's kind of gone down from altitude a bit early because the 873 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:38,440 weather was terrible in Flagstaff. 874 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,320 So she's kind of, but she is kind of on that prioritizing her 875 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,720 happiness. She kind of said she's not fully 876 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:48,760 moving to the trails, but you know, because she's still kind 877 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,280 of thinking about 2028 Olympic trials maybe. 878 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,840 But I think it's more of a work my body tolerate. 879 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,840 I enjoy doing the trails. If I can stay healthy that way, 880 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:02,880 running a bit slower and a bit more kind of of of that kind of 881 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,360 doing that kind of work, then then that's, you know, that's 882 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,360 what I'd like to do. So I think that's her mentality 883 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,680 going into this. So at the same time, the way the 884 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:20,840 New York kind of tends to go out, everyone stays together and 885 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,200 jogs for, you know, whatever that first half of the race. 886 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,840 Yeah, it's like think back to Jenny Simpson going to the front 887 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,600 of the pack and waving and that kind of stuff. 888 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:32,240 So we might see a moment like that from from Molly. 889 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:37,680 I mean, back when she ran this race in 2021, like she was like 890 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,000 high fiving and waving at her sister like in the middle of the 891 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,680 race. And so I'm just really happy 892 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:50,840 that Molly is happy and healthy. And if the roads and trails are 893 00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,240 where her curiosity lies right now, then good for her. 894 00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:01,040 It's, it's, it's always cool to see how a top Rd. star mixes it 895 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,320 up on in a totally different environment. 896 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,400 And then other than that, couple of intriguing debuts. 897 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,080 Jess Warner Judd from Great Britain is probably of big 898 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:22,320 interest to you because she struggled at the end of her 899 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,840 track career last year with some seizures. 900 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,760 And she really kind of spoke out about just like, wanting to end 901 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:36,160 things on her own terms. And now she's going to move to 902 00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:41,120 the marathon and we'll see, you know, how she holds up in this 903 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,560 environment. And then the other one would be 904 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:50,440 Amanda Vestry, who has shown great prowess on the roads this 905 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:58,200 year by running 6735 in Houston, finishing third at the US Half 906 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,320 Marathon Championships in Atlanta back in March. 907 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,200 So she was slated to make the world road running team and then 908 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,280 that got cancelled. She ran on the track as well, 909 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:16,760 ran a 3156 for 10K back at the 10 in March and finished 8th in 910 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:22,320 the 10K at the US Championships. So now when we talk about just 911 00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,840 sort of like young American talent moving to the roads a 912 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,120 little earlier than in the past, it's not just a trend on the 913 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,760 men's side. Amanda Vestry's also making that 914 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,400 happen on the women's side. So watch for her as well, all 915 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,360 right? Susanna Sullivan doubling back 916 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:41,360 from a fourth place World Championships. 917 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,720 So so that will be interesting to see how she comes off the 918 00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,920 back of that. And then we had. 919 00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840 We always overlook Susanna Sullivan a little too much on 920 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:50,040 on. This. 921 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,560 Podcast like hand up, we messed up. 922 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,440 I think in the lead up to the World Championships, we kind of 923 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:02,920 had higher hopes and stock in Jess McClain, who still had a 924 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,400 very good showing. But I mean we were pretty 925 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,640 dismissive over Susanna Sullivan's chances and then she 926 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:13,240 ends up, you know, just couple seconds shy of a medal. 927 00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,440 So we messed up and we will not be overlooking her in this one 928 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,240 especially I guess like if you like we said just sort of how. 929 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,320 It. If you leave these things to too 930 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,160 late, like everyone's in contention. 931 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,680 And so that's, that would be a good thing for her because, you 932 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:37,280 know, I, I presume the time. Between World Championships and 933 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,840 New York City Marathon isn't a ton of time, but it is, you 934 00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,000 know, a good amount. After your break to kind of re 935 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,520 sharpen up and give this thing a go. 936 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,360 She probably would want another week or two, but it is what it 937 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,440 is and she's lining up in in this race against everyone else. 938 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,640 Yeah, and then you've got Annie Frisbee, who had that really 939 00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,520 impressive run in Boston. She was secondary. 940 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,240 Jeez, we're overlooking everybody. 941 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,440 She was a top American in Boston, right? 942 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,920 Yeah. Exactly second to Jess McClain, 943 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,800 but still she's only just, but she actually really, you know, 944 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,280 she really went for it in that race and and that was a really 945 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,200 great performance to see. And you know, we shouldn't. 946 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,000 I forget to mention the likes of Sarah Hall. 947 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,720 There we go. OK, another one. 948 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,440 Yeah. Yeah. 949 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,640 Kellen Taylor So there's a whole load of people in this race. 950 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,680 Steph Bruce. So, you know, there's, I think a 951 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,800 lot of the top American women are in this race this time 952 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,240 around. So there will be a lot of 953 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,720 interest. And yeah, we don't know who's 954 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,640 going to pop off. 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We will save our predictions for 993 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,680 the final prediction show that we will be recording live from 994 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,560 the Hoka flagship store on Friday afternoon after. 995 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,520 I am at the press conference and get you the inside scoop on how 996 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,600 people are feeling. All right, shifting over to the 997 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:07,920 men's side, this is a fun field because I feel like in New York 998 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,080 it's always wide open, like there's some eye popping and 999 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,880 catchy names, but. You could. 1000 01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,520 You could be. Lighting it up all spring and 1001 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,760 you can throw all those results and resumes out the window 1002 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:27,680 because the course just leads to unpredictability. 1003 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,840 So on paper, the fastest guys in the field. 1004 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,920 Are Elliot Kipchoge and Kenenisa Bikele with their two O 1 1005 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,360 personal best? Kipchoge's former marathon world 1006 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,320 record of two O one O 9? Kenenisa Bakele's oh so close 1007 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:49,960 near world record of two O 141. Neither of those guys has run 1008 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,480 close to that in recent years, but they will. 1009 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,520 They're legends. This is their 6th. 1010 01:02:55,520 --> 01:03:00,241 Time going head to head Bakele's coming off of his first ever win 1011 01:03:00,241 --> 01:03:02,361 over Kipchoge at the Paris Olympics. 1012 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:09,680 So that's because Kipchogi dropped out after 31 or 32K so. 1013 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,200 That's marathon win, just to clarify. 1014 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,840 Yes, marathon wins because they've obviously got a crazy 1015 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:30,482 long head to He'll get his big big six star 1016 01:03:30,562 --> 01:03:34,560 finisher medal right after this one and. 1017 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,680 The 7th I think isn't isn't. It's the 7th 1. 1018 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,520 He completes the set. Yeah, but you don't get a 1019 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,640 special medal for your seven for Sydney. 1020 01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,840 Yeah, you there's there's no special medal if you're for your 1021 01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,960 7th. If you've completed the seven, 1022 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,240 you only get a special medal for the six. 1023 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:56,640 And the original 6 is includes New York and not Sydney. 1024 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:59,600 So in Sydney he didn't get anything special. 1025 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,160 Now he will and. Yeah. 1026 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,440 So I I guess the expectations for these guys. 1027 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,480 I I just like that they're they're still lining up. 1028 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,880 I don't necessarily think I'm picking either one of them to 1029 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,120 win. What a story it would be. 1030 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,720 But the odds makers in this one, you, you, you can't give these 1031 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,760 guys like crazy good odds to, to win like they're they're long 1032 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,680 shots, I think at this point. Yeah, I mean, I think Kipchoge 1033 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,640 obviously was 9th in Sydney, which is pretty like given that 1034 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,440 field wasn't a particularly strong field. 1035 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,880 He was ninth there. And you know, I mean, he was 2 1036 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,080 minutes off the win. It was a 28 that he ran. 1037 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,440 I mean, he's still running a 208. 1038 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:49,440 He ran A205206 in London earlier in the year for 6th place. 1039 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,800 I mean, he's still decent, but he's not, you know, I don't 1040 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,120 think he can compete in these races anymore when it comes to 1041 01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,800 the sharp end of things, which, you know, I, it's sad to say, 1042 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,720 like we'd obviously love to see him, you know, still competing 1043 01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,480 for the podium. And then but Kaylee, I mean, 1044 01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:12,160 interestingly enough, but Kaylee was second in London last year 1045 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:18,000 and in 2024 and then obviously had Paris Olympics where he 1046 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,680 finished 39th. But he has not raced in 2025. 1047 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:24,120 So we have no idea what kind of shape he's in. 1048 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,320 I think he was meant to be in London again this year, but he 1049 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,800 then scratched I think at the last minute so. 1050 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,920 But that's a good sign when it comes to Michaela, because what 1051 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:39,440 we've seen in the past about this guy is that when there's no 1052 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,720 clue what shape this guy's in, it means he's likely in good 1053 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,240 shape. And for him to enter this one at 1054 01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,880 the last second, I think that I think it's a good sign of 1055 01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:50,840 things. There was that. 1056 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,480 So the one year that he ran the two O 141, I remember what. 1057 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,600 Was it his manager in the lead up to it had said something 1058 01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,560 like. No, he's out of shape. 1059 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,480 Like he's not hasn't shown good form whatsoever. 1060 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:03,760 And then he goes and blasts his PB. 1061 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:11,320 So I, I, I'm not worried about Mchale's lack of results because 1062 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,640 what had that, what that has led to in the past? 1063 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:20,880 Plus now he does have course experience in New York. 1064 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,520 He was like 6th here maybe like 2 years ago or something like 1065 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,920 that. So. 1066 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,720 Give Bakaylee a little bit of the edge over Kipchogi there 1067 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,280 because of that. But that's those two big guys. 1068 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,080 Then after that, you remove them off the out of the equation 1069 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,520 because their PRS are from long ago. 1070 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:47,520 Benson Kipruto is in this one. Teresa Galetta from Ethiopia. 1071 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:48,840 Yeah. It's a scratch. 1072 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:50,760 Scratch. OK, he's out. 1073 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,040 Yeah, evidence. Chibet was the other big name in 1074 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,880 this race who also has recently scratched. 1075 01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,960 So we lost two of the top guys, unfortunately. 1076 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,080 And what that means, it's good news for defending champion Abdi 1077 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,360 Nageya, who won last year's race. 1078 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,320 He's got A20 4PB. He's now being coached by Tim 1079 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,120 Robbery, who's working with Saifan Hassan. 1080 01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:20,560 So Abdi. Has like a whole bunch of 1081 01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,400 factors. That would signal to, Yeah, I 1082 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:25,960 mean, he could be, he could defend. 1083 01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,040 No one's gone back-to-back in New York on the men's side in a 1084 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:33,600 long time. And could Abdi be the first guy? 1085 01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,080 The thing is, they always stack these fields, and so they don't 1086 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,040 make it easy for the defending champion to to go back-to-back. 1087 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,040 I like the addition of Benson Capruto. 1088 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:47,640 In this one. Yeah, I mean, it is interesting. 1089 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,320 So Abdi, Abdi Negay, he he received one New York coming off 1090 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,400 a disappointing DNF at the Olympics. 1091 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,480 He he won New York and then he came forth in London, but he ran 1092 01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:02,280 APR of 2/04/20. So I think he's carried over the 1093 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,240 good form. So I, I think, you know, he, 1094 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,280 there's every chance he's in, you know, continuing to be in 1095 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:14,080 that in that same good form. Benson Caputo won Tokyo in 2024 1096 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:18,720 and ran 2A216, is the fastest guy in the race if you discount 1097 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,960 Kit Jogi and Bakali. But he was 7th in Tokyo earlier 1098 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:24,560 this year. Exactly. 1099 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:29,439 So the we don't really know what kind of shape he's in, but you 1100 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:31,680 know, he's someone who's won these marathon majors before. 1101 01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,000 He won Chicago in 2022, Boston in 2021 as well. 1102 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:39,080 So he has one on a sort of a tougher course as well. 1103 01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:45,439 So, yeah, but I, I see kind of adding a gay Benson Caputo and 1104 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:49,120 probably the other other guy who's kind of really, you know, 1105 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,040 I see as the big three in this race is Alexander Mutiso Munyao, 1106 01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:58,319 who won in London in 2024 and was third in London in 2025 1107 01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:02,439 behind basically the two best marathoners in the world right 1108 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:07,840 right now, Salway and Caplimo. So I kind of rate him as a, as 1109 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:13,840 a, as a serious threat here and he just won a, the half marathon 1110 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:19,359 in, in the UK in the Great North Run in really tough conditions, 1111 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,439 running sort of 60 flats. So, so that was pretty good from 1112 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,560 him as well. Are we being naive and just like 1113 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,600 not picking Alphon Simbu for some reason? 1114 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,040 He's the world champion in the marathon. 1115 01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:37,000 Oh, he is OK. Yes, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1116 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,160 Now he finally got to him. He finished second in Boston. 1117 01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,279 He ran 205 there and then wins the World Championships and 1118 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,240 scratches. OK, All right. 1119 01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,920 Well, I was about to say I was. Like wait, are we? 1120 01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,000 Are we totally listening? No, no. 1121 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,840 He's also scratched. But yeah, Albert Career is a New 1122 01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,760 York City Marathon specialist. He's a 2021 winner and he came 1123 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:06,920 second in 2019 and in 2023, but he's only raced Ottawa this 1124 01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:10,040 year, which he won in two O 8. But that doesn't really tell us 1125 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,480 anything about his his shape. But as I say, he's he's a New 1126 01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:16,560 York City marathon specialist. So he always does well here. 1127 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,920 And the other name I think to keep an eye on is Abel 1128 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,720 Kipchumba. He is the guy who beat Connor 1129 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:25,560 Mance in the New York City half earlier this year. 1130 01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,840 So he's again, someone who who could be a bit of a threat here, 1131 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,360 given he likes New York. But what did he do this spring? 1132 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:40,680 Abo Kipchumba won New York and then finished third at the Great 1133 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,600 S Run. I believe it is and. 1134 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,040 It's the same. It's the same half marathon 1135 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,400 that, yeah, that I just mentioned that Alexander Mottiso 1136 01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,480 won. Kipchumba was eighth in New York 1137 01:10:53,480 --> 01:10:56,280 last year, so. Yes, so. 1138 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,240 All right. But that's, I mean, that just 1139 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,440 goes to show you it's like this thing is wide open. 1140 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:07,880 There's no clear favorite. On the on the men's side and it 1141 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,800 kind of keeps the door open like who's the top American going to 1142 01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,720 be in this one? BS and boss is the top American 1143 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,120 on paper because he ran two O 653 in Valencia. 1144 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,240 Big difference between Valencia's course and the New 1145 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:26,640 York City Marathon course. This is BS first world major. 1146 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:32,240 So there's that. And then after that it's a I 1147 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,480 think the the next top contenders are guys who've never 1148 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:40,440 run the marathon before. We've got Hilary Bohr, Charles 1149 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:45,040 Hicks and Joe Klecker. I think we're all virtual 1150 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,000 unknowns to the marathon distance. 1151 01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:52,520 Hilary Bohr might have the most upside of the bunch. 1152 01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,560 Not just saying that because we're with Hoka this week for 1153 01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:00,440 for the marathon and we're going to be talking to him on Friday 1154 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:06,520 on this show. But he did run 6020 at in 1155 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:11,800 Houston, 6059 to finish third at the US Half Marathon 1156 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:16,680 Championships, and then clocks of PB, which obviously this one 1157 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:21,120 doesn't count for records or anything like that, but 5955 at 1158 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,440 the NYC half to finish behind Conor Matz. 1159 01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:31,400 Like I think and Hilary Bore is. He's a Rhodes guy for sure, and 1160 01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:32,920 and he's known that for quite some time. 1161 01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,480 He had that crazy impressive 10 mile performance a couple years 1162 01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:45,800 back 4530 in Washington DCI. Like yeah, I think watch out for 1163 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,840 Hilary Board to potentially be the top American. 1164 01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:50,840 This this is also coming right after we put out a podcast 1165 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,160 episode with Joe Clacker. But Joe's got a little, I think 1166 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:59,400 a bit more measured of a plan for his first time. 1167 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:04,240 This has been a big learning curve for him on the roads was 1168 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:07,280 not pretty after, you know, kind of coming out, you know, with 1169 01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:11,520 the Sidious Mag docu series to help drum up the hype around the 1170 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:17,640 Houston half and pursue the half marathon American record fallen 1171 01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:23,360 totally off of that running 61. And then since then he's never 1172 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,080 he's never had like the home run performance on the roads. 1173 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,760 But that's OK. I think you see that with the 1174 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,560 likes of like Clayton Young. They just clutch up when it 1175 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,760 comes to the full 26.2 distance. He's got great people in his 1176 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,680 corner with Dathan Helen, Laura Thweed. 1177 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,960 Like that's a lot of stacked experience on this New York City 1178 01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,800 Marathon course. He came out to give it some 1179 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:52,880 course Recon. So yeah, I mean, let's it's 1180 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,520 going to be intriguing too, just sort of like the the battle 1181 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,840 within the battle. Yeah, I mean, I I'm quite 1182 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:02,880 intrigued by Charles Hicks because he hasn't run a half 1183 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,760 marathon, but and he's just diving straight into the 1184 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:09,720 marathon. But he did run and win the US 10 1185 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:14,960 Mile Championships in 4514. Yeah, so he beat Hilary Bore in 1186 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,560 that race that I thought was really impressive for Hillary. 1187 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,800 He beat Hilary Bore, BS Ambassador and Joe Clecker in 1188 01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,520 that race. So all of these guys who are in 1189 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,080 this marathon and Paddy Diva, who's the British guy who's 1190 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:35,240 debuting in in this race. So yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, 1191 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,360 I mean, it'll be interesting to see because he's obviously 1192 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,760 someone who's kind of skipped the track pro career entirely 1193 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,880 and decided to dive straight into the road scene. 1194 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:48,520 And yeah. Yeah, I wonder if Charles is 1195 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,400 going to be at the press conference because I'm so 1196 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,600 curious about a lot of things. There's there's the decision to 1197 01:14:54,600 --> 01:15:02,720 switch from GB to USA and then also why, I guess like he hasn't 1198 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:07,680 raced a whole lot on the track in the last couple years since 1199 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,800 turning pro and signing with, you know, Nike and being coached 1200 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:19,240 by Jerry Schumacher last summer. He ran PB of 1321 for 5K and 1201 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,240 2733 for 10K, but you look at those results and you're like 1202 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,960 not anything crazy. So he was an NCAA cross country 1203 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,760 champion. He just hasn't like lived up to 1204 01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,200 the hype that he had while he was in college. 1205 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,240 Yeah. And and I think with that it, 1206 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:38,960 it's quite interesting. I mean he there, there was some 1207 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,280 talk of him kind of being a little bit frustrated with the 1208 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,440 the GB selection processes for some of the things he wanted to 1209 01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:45,400 get selected for. I don't. 1210 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,360 Know. Oh, really? 1211 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,040 That that's that's one of the reasons, apparently. 1212 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,400 He was upset with the GB selection process. 1213 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,720 That's new. Like who? 1214 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,320 Who isn't upset with the GB selection process? 1215 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,080 To be fair, they've been better in recent years. 1216 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:00,000 You got to give them some credit. 1217 01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,400 OK. But I think, but I think, but I 1218 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,440 think the thing here is that obviously if you're going to go 1219 01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:11,240 to the roads and you're based in the States and you can be an 1220 01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:16,240 American, there's a huge advantage to being representing 1221 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,200 USA versus representing GB because the appearance fees you 1222 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,760 can get at all these Rd. races significantly higher if you are 1223 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,680 an American. So I think it makes sense if 1224 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,160 that was the path he was going to choose. 1225 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,480 Obviously if he's staying on the track, then making teams in the 1226 01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:37,280 5K or the 10K for GB would be much easier than it would be 1227 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,320 fair to make the US team, I suspect. 1228 01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:43,320 But but I think given he's he's had this decision to go to the 1229 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,760 roads, I think that all kind of lines up because I was very 1230 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,400 confused when I first saw he decided to switch because I was 1231 01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,000 like, you're not going to make AUS. 1232 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:52,920 You know, I was thinking in my head like, you're not going to 1233 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,160 make AUS team in the on the track, given the performances 1234 01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,680 you've been putting out since since you turned pro. 1235 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,080 But I mean, yeah, now, now it's sort of all stacks up and makes 1236 01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,240 sense. So yeah, here we are. 1237 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:05,800 But you're. Like you could have been. 1238 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,320 You could have been our. 3rd our 3rd 5K guy. 1239 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,000 Yeah exactly, exactly. Well our 2nd 5K guy, we only had 1240 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:18,040 one in George Mills. So you know, whilst Paddy Diva 1241 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:23,080 by contrast to is still British but has also decided that he 1242 01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,000 can't be bothered with the track anymore because making a team is 1243 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,120 just too much hard work. He was the first guy out of the 1244 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,200 10 Ki think at the Olympics. Unfortunately, the poor guy, so, 1245 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,840 you know, I think he's decided that and, and he's run some 1246 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,160 pretty good half marathons this year. 1247 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,280 So yeah, intrigued to see what he can do as well. 1248 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:46,520 And CPT Obviously we always love Chuck Filibert Fibito. 1249 01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,960 Did he say that this is his last? 1250 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,720 Professional race or I don't. I don't know, but he didn't he 1251 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,160 just run? He ran the 1500 at the World 1252 01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:57,520 Championships. World Championships? 1253 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,880 Exactly so. He got in via his world ranking, 1254 01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,560 then traveled all the way to Tokyo. 1255 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,960 Had a blast, ran in the rounds of the 1500, but I'm sure had a 1256 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,800 really long cooldown after that because he's in marathon 1257 01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,480 treating season. But I think I saw something on 1258 01:18:13,480 --> 01:18:15,600 his Instagram. Either that was his final track 1259 01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,240 race ever and now he's shifting over entirely to the roads, or 1260 01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,800 this might be his final race in general. 1261 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:26,040 Which makes me. Feel old because CPT is. 1262 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,200 One of the one of the guys I guess who's like racing on the 1263 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:36,280 circuit while I was in college and in as a pro, I remember 1264 01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:39,600 those first few years of him being a pro were my first few 1265 01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,040 years of covering the elite side. 1266 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,520 And so anytime we see one of these guys from like those 2015 1267 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,320 Louvin Summers retiring, there's a very few people left. 1268 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,560 And so it's sad so. He might be. 1269 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,400 One of the last ones hanging on, but we'll, we'll, we'll see what 1270 01:18:57,400 --> 01:19:00,200 he's got in store for for this marathon, but I'm sure he'll 1271 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,920 also be just like having an absolute blast out there. 1272 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:12,680 So that is your quick overview of the 2025 New York City 1273 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,960 Marathon. We will be bringing you so much 1274 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:19,560 more storylines, insights from the press conference, 1275 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:27,640 predictions when we do our live final show on Friday afternoon 1276 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,680 from the HOKA pop up on or flagship store on 5th Ave. 1277 01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,160 So stay tuned for that. If you want to know where else 1278 01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,280 CS Mag will be showing up all throughout New York City 1279 01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,080 Marathon weekend. We have a post pinned to our 1280 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:46,640 profile with all of the programming that is being backed 1281 01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,360 by HOKA. We will be, you know, attending 1282 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,120 some of these other shakeout runs. 1283 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,440 There is like a concert experience as well. 1284 01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:00,480 And then, yeah, we will have our own run on Saturday morning at 1285 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:06,120 10 AM out of the flagship store on 5th Ave. and it'll be a 1286 01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,640 blast. So this is the best week. 1287 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,960 It's a busy week. I'm going to try and sneak in a 1288 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,720 run before I've got to go to like a film premiere. 1289 01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,800 Then I've got tons of meetings while people are involved. 1290 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,800 Then we've also got like I'm on the broadcast for the 5K that's 1291 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,960 taking place. Say before the marathon, so the 1292 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:28,800 dash to the finish 5K. They will be streaming for free 1293 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:34,640 and live on the New York Rd. Runners YouTube channel. 1294 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,720 Some really good fields for that, especially on the women's 1295 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,560 side. On the men's side, it's looking 1296 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,320 like it could be like Aman Kemboy versus Abdi Hamid Nur 1297 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,640 versus Anthony Rodich. Like those are the big three. 1298 01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,080 I would say on the men's side. But the women's side, you've got 1299 01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:54,160 Ellie Saint Pierre, you've got Wayne Kolati, you've got who 1300 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,840 else is in this? Alicia Monson, The return of 1301 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,480 Parker. Balby So the women's side would. 1302 01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:04,200 Be Taylor Rowe, it's. It's Taylor Rowe has scratched. 1303 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,400 Scratched. OK, yeah, I think there's a 1304 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,160 couple names on that graphic. And I don't think it's been made 1305 01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,640 public yet, but since I was in a production meeting, I guess I'll 1306 01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:12,560 say it here. Yeah. 1307 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,720 Like Taylor Rowe and Ellie Hennis have scratched from the 1308 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,720 field, so. It'll be they're pretty small 1309 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,480 fields, but this is the first time in a while that it doesn't 1310 01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:23,400 serve as the US 5K Championships. 1311 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,480 And so they're able to add a little bit more international 1312 01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:32,520 flair to both both sides. And then, yeah, I would I. 1313 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,960 Think. The the World Road Running 1314 01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,720 Championships return next year in Copenhagen. 1315 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,720 I believe it is. And the selection race will 1316 01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,800 probably be in Indianapolis. the US half marathon championships 1317 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:49,680 will be returning to Atlanta. So kind of feel for the people 1318 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:54,360 who like ran the races in like Des Moines, Indy and Atlanta 1319 01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,720 earlier this year, who finished in the top, you know, 3-4 spots 1320 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,960 and then didn't get the chance to represent Team USA. 1321 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,520 But that's a that's a next year thing, so. 1322 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:09,800 Well, stay tuned. I think what this what this 1323 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:14,840 intrigues me by is, you know, will we see Park of Arby, 1324 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:19,800 Caitlin Tui running US cross and and representing US because if 1325 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,400 they are healthy and ready to go, at least Saint Pierre like 1326 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,000 Alicia Monson, like all these athletes will be really cool 1327 01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:29,760 obviously to see them try and represent the US at those at 1328 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:30,840 those cross champs. So. 1329 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,680 I think it's a yeah, maybe Caitlin Tui might be more likely 1330 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:40,520 than than Parker because but Caitlin did run a full summer 1331 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,200 track season and then, you know, probably took a break and then 1332 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,480 got back into fall training. She's based out of North 1333 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:51,360 Carolina. Whereas with Parker, it was kind 1334 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,600 of a little bit of a surprise to see her entered in this race 1335 01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:59,040 when she had this foot injury that wiped her out for the whole 1336 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:04,080 entire outdoor track season. And it's a new bounce, you know, 1337 01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,200 weekend with their big title sponsorship of the New York City 1338 01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:13,600 Marathon that, you know, it's it's just good to see that she's 1339 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:18,760 back to racing, I think. And so maybe it's less intense 1340 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,600 of an environment to jump back into before you can start to 1341 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:27,400 think about, you know, US cross like to to open up at US cross 1342 01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,720 when there's a team on the line feels like high pressure. 1343 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,640 So I think it's just sort of like, let's get back into a race 1344 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:38,560 environment, go through the the motions of of what it's like to 1345 01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:42,320 be back on this stage and see where the cards lie like. 1346 01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:46,400 I It's such a weird timing for a race for some of these people 1347 01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:51,440 that you're either coming off of a break, you're in the beginning 1348 01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:53,800 of where you're in fall training. 1349 01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,480 But like you said, I guess US Cross will be here before we 1350 01:23:57,480 --> 01:23:59,000 know it too. It's almost a month away. 1351 01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:00,960 Yeah. And I, I guess what's 1352 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,960 interesting is the world cross country race for women is also 1353 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,520 10K, which is obviously quite different to what we see in NCAA 1354 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:12,760 cross where it's 6K. So maybe that that also kind of 1355 01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,920 changes the dynamics a little bit from who we kind of see as 1356 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,200 the best sort of NCAA cross country runners. 1357 01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:23,520 You've kind of got to look at the best 10K runners for this, 1358 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,720 for this kind of field. Yeah. 1359 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,760 All right, that does it for this week in track and field. 1360 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,440 We will catch you guys next week, but stay tuned to all of 1361 01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:36,720 our coverage of the New York City Marathon all throughout 1362 01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,840 this weekend, presented by OKA. Thank you all for listening to 1363 01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,680 this episode. This episode was produced by 1364 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,160 Jasmine Fair. I love doing this for you guys. 1365 01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,160 So please do me a favor and leave a five star view on Apple 1366 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,320 Podcast or Spotify. That helps us grow the show and 1367 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:54,160 get even more awesome guests. Let me know what you're enjoying 1368 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,120 about the show. 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